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He's better spotting the trackers away!
He's a home champ!
Oh, yuck!
He's got a random backport to him!
Sear them up as well!
Caught in the chains!
Here it is in Kato!
He's trapped and slain!
Not there by nine classes, they pop the bongo boots
and get onto the Dekiro.
Another quick jump in, a blow up on Tofu.
Paravision, the Shaka shot onto nine class,
returning fire, liquid,
find an opening here on the bat as well.
Forcing a BKB and a SSS.
He should make the jump.
That rider got shackled for the trees.
They thought they had a freebie there, stop them.
Look at them, they're a bit eager.
Boxing's under Carlos, Nisha jumps over the top and that's another one.
Three in a row, Satanic and no one looking for a chrono.
Finds the winranger under tier two.
Sharves looking to block them out.
The damage is good for Satanic and Largo to triple two.
You'll set them to the sky so they can back down into the ice path.
Boxing, Nisha trying to deal with the paces.
Boy, did it get the jump done.
BKB and DD going for Liquid, they've overrun Paravision!
The frog that is friends, they finally get the sustained go that they needed.
They're going to run into Joe, get low boxy, jump from the jet.
Tofu with a stun to the shotgun, shot on the face of void.
Can they heal him up? Can he get his gun?
Mid game finishes him off!
Liquid, they've got this one in the back, the team fight.
And none of these Paravision are one by one, they crumble.
And are looking for their chance encounter to make something work.
Dreamcoyle comes in, coily, and Stankoyle will go and find that hit your ride for a second, but FYI is already dead.
Dreamcoyle again.
Now the refresher from Klaan, either by the roar.
Obviously, but he's doomed up.
And that's a problem.
Thanks to FYI, and success already dead.
Gigi is calling for the fights.
Completely over.
And that will be game one going away of Team Spirit.
Blocking them away from the advanced tornado poking Apple as well.
So Yathrow gets aged as human in though.
Aggressive play from Heroic and they go forward into the refreshes though from Two-Spirit.
They drop meatballs down and try to deal with them.
Tylan port back.
They're in the pit and they've killed Yathrow once.
Fadalbond's a good as well. Clash gets bullied back.
Yathrow, the both of them, the cast isn't coming in.
Massive damage, but much of the cheese Yuma still find.
Rauder's scared back of the pit.
Tylan and Yuma in trouble as Yathrow opens up and backs the drum.
He's killed off both Khor inside the pit and died back for Tylon.
Collapsed on the tail of King Juggler's now to some reignite.
On the tusk, we're clearing out Haruig.
Collapsed chasing for the final kill.
A little warlock is not going to be able to squirt away.
A whisper, the hiding.
Full five-man wipe is incoming.
Try to hide in the treeline, but the long, the licked tongue of the Lord.
I'll fresher a pangra for the lalas in. Seize the shadow demon. Forces some spells out.
Collap breaks onto this. Primal beat. Clips up the top of Tylaan. Blowing him up and dropping
him low. Refreshes in BKBs though to get some distance now. Primal is free but low on HB
is collapsed. Gets into the midst of the fight and Yasuo with a BKB! Gleaves them down!
But here we damage! A triple kill for Luna! Oh, the hookshot there as well!
So find the bonus team spirit in the driving seat now
Let's see who's gonna be helping cool whether these
Shraddolls and fire spirits are helping heroic to finish off Roche mirror in the front line. There's the hatched serpent words
Hope to get him out of those words and now Roche is very low
But Khajiit comes over, overgrows on to three, that might just cost him his life and will.
There wasn't much follow up to that either, and now they're gonna walk into Rosh themselves.
They'll think about the Rekli and Tylong. He's about half health.
Makropire down out of the Rosh, whispers inside the ping, pops the BKB,
he's gonna wall override, they never get the supernova off to the side.
They're gonna try to spot a damage Rosh as well.
Who's gonna pick up Khajiit?
Who's gonna pick up Khajiit?
He ages into all the ground, finally pick up my WSZ, kill him with a Makoto!
So, they take out the sniper, they'll have the primal back, Tylong's down and gone.
3 heroes dead, make it up for it, the weaver's the only one alive.
Thanks for the replay of the 2, don't feel comfortable going for it.
Another rod, super chain doesn't connect with the macro pyre is there,
it's just a matter of any way of reading on it too.
Here comes nothing to say, the spear connects, they get the kill to Kaylory,
they end up trading supports, but FYZ and Finger used it through onto WS.
They need the hacks, they need the damage, they need the kill onto this timber
because it's now in the face of Ami.
They are to get the kill to Ami, they took it to the lion, and Ami,
he is not got a lot of metal left.
He is in some trouble, he got the phone in backpack, he's dead too. Stonegaze forced out, XXS is here, now they'll land a spear, but Ami with Bill Manne, a left-bill life available, triple kill for WS, he was just standing tall.
He is so tanky, XXS looking like he's gonna be next! Tipper Chain, Ultra Kill, WS, shout out to you!
He's going to pop when they find it's going to be nobody that the blinks out but I'm really
bit chasing for the boys pair trying to find soxio but he's pecked up he's going to get
shackled he's just dead to start the fight you committed way too far the goal it comes
out you lose the pop work and chrysalis on the front line trying to do his best but Watson
Has the damage now, it is running out of steam here for Malz.
Boob might get a kill on to Malady if he's lucky, but that's not even gonna happen.
This will be a full team life and Yandex will get the Roshan as well.
Now or never, if the Fokings cannot deceive this T5 pressure, we've been waiting for inside this game.
It's a nice speedback for the CHs.
So you have the Wasteword coming through for the Tempest Assassin, it was an all or nothing
committal, the Super Evers are great timing to get this stun, and the damage from Skeet
is not too bad, and with the Hurricane Park's gonna be able to push Warts and away, with
the Backline Jump and, oh jeez, it dropped down out of this one, Vulcans losing 2-0 of
fashion and Yandex.
Now they're gonna be able to stop the TP, now the rotations are coming over, they're
They're gonna wrap around with this smoke.
Who are they gonna find?
Hens.
Their finger and the sunray,
that's gonna get the Aegis out of the hands in the air.
So, but now Whisper moving forward
to throw out that Ravage and only lands on it too.
The blink away, right with the hands of Kailor.
He's not able to get the Super No-Ball.
First to buy back.
Silence now, Pipe, pop by this Tidehunter,
jumping forward down the pole rise.
That's gonna land on the Makoto,
the Bizzley Quarters, now they get the Silence out
onto the Avedon, they get the Kono Makoto.
Whisper on the run now, ends up dead to V-Tune.
The borrowed time has run out, the Sands of Time
now going back towards this Avedon and it's not looking good.
KJ dies to WS though jump onto V2 and the right quick serve there with a BK leading top
right U-Mount.
They have the Cyclone as the primal split from WS when he goes back to form and now
they'll hit him with that ancient seal and they're gonna have jumping back in.
Here a K-Orient as well as WS for the only ones here but here a well filled open two
shots.
Supernova ends up getting eggs, they've got the fuel and super power in a second.
He's got the shots and he'll get the kill K-Orients up dead to another ancient seal.
Gonna be at the WF and chases up with the Trample, and it's a full wipe and then some for the side of Heroic.
They've got an idea, they're on someone's tail.
Niko's gonna get jumped.
Exit the shackles, counteracted again by a nice stun from Syad, but a hook says Shadashaman.
As PMA goes in on the field, the core is dismembered back, serving for trap.
Syad's making a move, but finally finishes off Shadashaman, now being rotted down and KJ's coming to the right-hand side.
PMA's BKB offers some protection.
We'll get to the high ground as Whisper hooks him back.
There we go.
Drag him straight to dead.
A double kill for the Punch.
And a nightmare.
Take on a TA with a Golem drop.
That's protection for Got the Juice.
You are though with a Raccoon wound up and thrown.
Ripped on the case.
There's TAs in so much trouble.
The grip on the case.
Got the juice tried to fight back.
But Heroic has got so much in attack.
Link is BKB.
There's nothing to Whisper.
The Punch comes out with an Ultra.
And he's not far away from a Rampage.
He's chasing for a flier.
Five seconds.
Coming in with some raiders.
Raiders trying to slow down the retreat of Riddiz on blinking from whisper the
roll to the hook.
Carapace!
Whisper dude, whisper.
When the outskirts of that vision,
Skeeter, oh my god, Exyn's looking for work.
Exactly where, Skeeter is and they're gonna have to damage him to the focus fire.
What a read from Exyn!
Dude, his tiny has been exceptional this game.
She's sawing the rake out there waiting on the hydra
Tree really?
Xen's got silver and NBKB
The other run is a pango for some mark keeper man
Again with that roll up makes it pretty messy
Watched shackles from 0
Speed to full walk they can have a perfect use of the chain control
Reach she's gaining
They're losing their base there so not like I'm trying to force her fight at the moment
Maybe they're waiting for them to disengage
Barnacle give them the information
But Exyn's gonna be up and get the jump
if he tosses him too much.
It's just too much in this season.
Game and all just dying as well.
The side comes out, but it doesn't do its job.
Skeeter gets back inside the base,
but Amar has no help.
He's running away from anyone else.
He's got the movement speed, but the looks of it,
but Exyn's gonna be able to catch up
and toss him to his grave.
Skeeter tries to help out,
but the side that's gonna be there,
no guy's shortly after it.
They're gonna buy back on Amara as well, but is there a further fight to be had?
They just get the shackles and one a second, it's not gonna matter in the end for the looks of the beach again.
They're just too far ahead and the Falcons have crawled through these past couple of team fights.
This game and last game, they just couldn't take it to China.
Maybe they're gonna plus one as well.
He's going to try and make some space seed inside the pit.
Ami activates the BKB.
He's going to be able to get the components.
Has the refresh through as well so he can have his second round of the BKB with 2BK.
He's going to be careful now.
Running up the high ground, static storm tries to protect me.
Well, they need a way to keep nothing to stay alive.
He'll eat the G's velocity.
But the cleave, the cleave actually killed Ami.
So Ami's H is completely wasted.
is completely wasted and they don't have to finish it as well. Refresher's gonna be
activated. Army's fine, second round of the BKB. This side-climbing of Curitix, who's
maybe a little bit vulnerable now without the BKB, continue to have a difficult time
to lock it onto the win-ranger, but it doesn't seem like it matters.
She doesn't have short yet. I really ask this part some fire way as well. I have to commit everything if they want to get the kill onto
to take over the first part of the game.
Inferno's going to do his best to get
a bit of fiend's grip.
Can you see he's live rolling it off?
The try to get through separation,
but surely with every single spell used.
The whole point down to Karin, the question is,
is can they get more of the backers
than they absolutely do?
Not only just a second, but a third.
And then they're going to have to do their best.
And then they're going to have to do their best.
And then they're going to have to do their best
to get a bit of fiend's grip.
Can you see he's live rolling it off?
The try to get through separation, but surely
up. Stone Games is used and then off the site they've got the Emperor going after this
Shadow Shaman who might just die. They're going to try and get themselves the acres
to terrorize those out. Does he have a chance to pick it up? The man avoid.
That's why 33, they're going to kill an E2. Nothing can go right here for Aurora.
Slark still has 15 temporary stacks. That's 60 bonus agility. He's quite strong going into this fight.
He gets the BKB, it's just that though, can't they find the kill to BZM though, he's just
like it's the silence takes down the Earth Spirit, that's going to be a die back in,
Botanga's got nothing left in the tank, he needs to run, there's no BKBs, he's got a
pounce but a nice E blade out from BZM to buy him some space, they turn their attention
to the Centaur, they take him out and Warlock will join him, the Earth says hungry man, 33,
33 slow them up and there is it's an ultra kill
They're pushing they want to force this it isn't a lot of armor on the buildings
They're gonna respawn normally. It's like I'll jump on no one. They force the BKB satanic buys back
It's gonna get in the midst of battle here the save with the disruption of TA
A clutch comes down to play park is BKB enough and runs away though
No one tries to go for the toss they can't find a target he saw the stuff the tiny cars do it
The Lunar's too low.
The Lunar's gonna go back to base.
Timberthol's in with a BZF jump.
Shadow Shaman's gone.
Tiny dead, no buyback.
Benos, there's Shadow Shaman and Cartel gone as well.
Lunar and Underlord 2v5 as Tundra with Parker coming big time.
Satanic's still trying to fight the best he can, but all his friends are dead.
They call it, they tap out!
Power efficient and done, and Tundra move on!
And just like that we went from 16 teams to having 8 teams remaining.
It's time for playoffs.
You are watching PGAVALACCHIA season 7.
We got 8 teams.
We got double elimination bracket and it's all kicking off this morning.
Here to talk all about it is Gunnar and Tegov on the morning panel.
How are you doing?
Yep.
Good morning guys.
Hello everyone.
How are we doing?
Good.
How are we doing?
How does it feel to be in the better shifts?
It's the better games.
I felt like this intensity, this pressure to speak my mind to,
and now I feel like I'm back home in a safe, warm space
where I can go back to my roots and my love of the game.
So, hi guys.
Hello.
That's very wholesome.
We'll see if all the teams are gonna be wholesome today.
Just to have it on paper,
I know you just saw the highlight,
just to see all the teams that have made it through
or the heroes we saw fall along the way.
This is the result of the Swiss group stage.
What would you say is the biggest surprise
or like on either side on elimination or on advantage?
Elimination is Falcons, for sure.
I think anytime they're not top four,
top six of the tournament, it's always surprising.
So to see them kind of, even the one three record,
it wasn't like, they made it to the final day,
they had some hard opponent.
I think the fact that it's one three
is pretty disappointing for them.
And it's something that, sure they had a standard,
but I think it's something that they're gonna
look back at and feel pretty bad about it.
Yeah, that's a rough one. How about you, T?
Nemesis.
SEA team, pretty cool org.
Had a very good voice pack last TI.
Honestly, I kind of just expected more from them.
I wasn't expecting them to be like a 3.0 team, 3.1 team,
but at least get a couple of wins under your belt.
Like when you look at the names of the roster,
what they have done historically for SEA,
I thought it was just underwhelming.
And then, I guess, same for OG as well.
They're not being able to make it through SEA.
They've had moments, but again, just hitting that rock once again.
Yeah, it is very unfortunate and hopefully they can step out of it because I think everybody wants to see SCA do well.
Now also, at the start of the event, we showed you guys which stand-ins are here for this event.
And obviously Falcons that we just mentioned also has a stand-in, so you could maybe blame their result on that potentially as well.
But overall, historically, Malachi had teams that were doing pretty well with stand-ins just like this one.
To be honest, only two teams that are out with a stand-in,
and I don't even know if we can call Miles a fool standing,
because it was only for one day that the damage wasn't there.
But the stand-in teams, Tiga, they are doing well.
Yeah, they're doing well, especially because I think
a lot of the teams that we see here with stand-ins,
they have such a good understanding of their foundation
that they can take a player in and do well.
Like Aurora, they went on this massive win streak earlier
in the month, right, against some of the online tournaments
with a different mid laner.
You have Tundra, of course, tournament-winning team.
You sort of have to carry.
You might have some rough games, but eventually it'll click
and you'll go back to form.
So I think they just respect what these teams have
as a base setup.
Yeah, I think, and maybe yesterday was the biggest surprise
we saw, because if all these teams with standards
make it through, it means the teams that are with
their full roster don't.
And yesterday, last year, the other day,
we saw Paravision, full roster,
Falter, to Tundra with Parker as a standard.
Yeah, I think Parker probably felt like he had something to prove in that series because there's definitely a lot of hate.
I think he was getting there's some questionable performances he had, but he kind of popped off.
They first picked his TA.
He, I think, did he die?
I don't think he died a single time in the entire game.
And the game was also just hard.
It wasn't like, oh, they're stomping.
He just got a first.
It was a game he had to carry, put in the work.
So for Tundra, I think I'm, I hope it's an up like swing for them.
Yeah.
They need that in their lives.
Let's see how teams have been trying to get their hands on an upswing what they have been trying to do because first picking TA
You might be thinking like oh, you know
That's gonna be something new and we might see it more often with the win rate
These are our most picked heroes of the tour. This is a lot of heroes guys. Hi. This is this is a sea of heroes
But the biggest to me is if you look at like the top row
It's a lot of kind of team fight area circle spells for the most part like jukiro team fight. You have warlock with your team fight
You have Mars your puck. There was a shadow thing. There's a Bristol. It's a lot of these heroes that
enable you to take control of objectives like the Roshan the tormentor are the big ones and
Kind of scale into the league game
And I think that it's a bit too hard and then the other ones that we see are kind of like the supporting cast
It's like shadow shaman lion puck
It's more kind of catch utility here is that enable your team fight to not give you like a one-dimensional draft
It lets you oh, they're gonna split push us because they don't want to fight us now
We have a shaman that can hex we have kind of different ways to play the game
Yeah, so you just sort of like the most picked heroes all of those heroes don't like playing into like a TA for example
Like TA not most picked but has like the highest win rate
And you need to be careful at this area like you need to respect that at all points like P vision yesterday
They didn't respect it. They get eliminated. It's like what 80% win rate
it's like 14 for two or something. Yeah, it's like 13 and one. Yeah, it's like it's an insane
start lines on that hero. Like it has been like winning, winning, winning. Do not forget about
it in the playoffs. Like V2 can play it. Okay, any carry can play it can play it. As you know,
I was going to start listing like eight carry players, but just ban it out or respect it.
Like if you start picking warlords and stuff, it's in the back of your mind. Yeah. And there's a
lot of heroes that have been respected and respect banned a couple more frequently than others.
I will say that on the fine times, that is wonderful, but I will say that the Tree of Protector is actually...
I think I kind of figured out, or at least not as old, do you have anything to say about this one?
Hold.
All right.
Because it's been picked so few times, I did check it yesterday, and I think the majority of games played on teams that have been eliminated,
and then the teams that are still in the playoffs have won with it.
Yeah.
So I feel like the stat is a little bit of a lie based on how intense it is within the draft.
Because it is like, you don't get to see it.
But I think because it also is one of the most contested heroes,
it is figured out, I would agree, that people know what it's going to do.
But in the right hands, it will break games.
Yeah, I think it's good by also, I've seen a kind of being in the draft where they'll pick it and
they kind of force into their drafts in the second phase.
Yeah.
Because usually the first phase, the meta is kind of defined by like Shattered Demon is like a big
going right now and people are going to be like oh well pick shadow demon and then they get to the
second phase like let's pick the tree it's in the pool and then you have like a shadow demon tree
support duo you don't really have damage and i think the issue is not that the hero is weak it's
that it kind of like clicks in your brain oh we have to pick it i think that happens with shadow
fiend too we saw yesterday there was an 18 pick shadow fiend and not a good shadow fiend game but
they felt they kind of wanted to force it into their draft because of how strong it is and so if
you kind of the teams just respect the hero kind of like let it be in its lane and do its thing i
I think the winner it would go up yeah, it probably would we're finding out today if we're gonna have more of those heroes making it through
We have four series coming your way today because today is the first day of this one
That's right double elimination with the eight teams remaining here in the fight for first place
Properly starts here with elimination on the line frequently not yet though upper bracket T comes very friendly
Yeah, it's very friendly and also I just like the the general split of teams that we have it just looks it just looks nice
Sometimes you look at a bracket and you can already envision like the two teams that will make it to the very end of the day
Like I said that yesterday on the clothes of show, but I feel like her heroic bb
It's like it feels like a 50-50. I feel like it's actually a pretty good standing
Maybe even for heroic to make another run out of the la here potentially and then you know spirit vici gaming
As much as we you give praise to spirit vici gaming the way they're playing the aggression like a Chinese team with
Shearer being super aggressive like that could just be a great series for them as well
if they wake up on the right side of the bed this morning.
Yeah, and if you are having these even, potentially even matchups,
decisions before the game are even more important than I'm talking about, for example,
if you want to be radiant or dire, that has quite some stats behind it.
Yeah, so radiant is doing better. I think it's actually swapped.
I think radiant is the 55% one-night.
But in my opinion it's a lot because of the tormentor and the
Roshan if there's a lot of these like timings people are hitting around the first item timing
That's like the 17 to 19 minute mark and the the basic flow of the game is you take
Roshan top then you go walk you take the tormentor and then if you're radiant
You can just walk down and secure your room or you can take the gate and then you take their wisdom shrine
And it's like if you get those three objectives at like the 21 minute mark
The game gets so hard for the other team and I think that dire kind of struggles with that
Yeah, and it's also snowball that generally
Roshan if you kill it will spawn on the same side of the map
So when you kill it on top, which is the radiant one the next rush on we let the radiant one
And then you just keep doing that and you just keep kind of building this advantage
And I think both of these teams kind of pick heroes with the mentality
Yeah
And it is of course that because Roshan on the top is not on the map the radiant one
but it is the one that Radiant has the easier access to because of the outpost and the tier 1 on the top lane, right?
Yeah, exactly. And also it's like Dota is always spoken about take the mid tier to the safe lane tower.
So if you think about DIA, losing your DIA safe lane tower means you're going to have a teleport to the Tormentor.
You don't have a teleport towards Roshan.
Because if you lose that tower, your closest place is going to be your mid tier 1, again, probably taken,
and then the tier 2 is a far away, and then your off lane Radiant tower.
How often do you really see that fall early in the game?
It's usually kind of there by 20 minutes.
Like that's like the only one in that area of the map.
And it's like you sometimes you see like the seven minute carry support dive and you take it, but like it's so rare.
So the off lane radiant tower tier one, that actually might be like the OP mechanic outside of course the outpost.
Yeah, we are going to focus our attention on our first upcoming series, Heroic versus Bedboom.
Both teams showing up strong, especially on their final day of play with Navi.
Absolutely getting crushed yesterday by Bedboom.
And would you have it here, Roland also crushed Navi on the day before that to make it to this one?
Actually, that was a more close game.
Well, it could be chochy a little bit of the format.
Oh wait, it was actually honest yesterday.
No, it was rough, it was rough.
It was rough, but I also remember the conversation that was had was,
and this is one that I want to have with you guys as well,
because you guys said on the panel, and it was showed in game, Navi was having a bad day.
Yeah, no, yeah, it was a rough one.
It was one of those ones where it's like, you want to obviously like be honest on the series, but it's like, it just felt bad like at that stage of a tournament, that was like the honest analysis you had to give and yeah, Navi, I don't know what happens to them.
Obviously, draft was a major problem in how they did it. I don't think they just respected BB's Ursa at all. Like they gave it away two times, luckily coming into this series, but also is an Ursa team.
team so this will be the battle of two urses but I'm really interested at the
fact that when we talk about heroic the young talent of Thailand we also have
to talk about the narrative of like what mid lane is has he played against right
GPK a legacy player from Eastern Europe one that has even argued to be the best
at times in his career we have never seen Thailand versus GPK in a mid lane
matchup right sure in pubs they probably played against each other but to me I'm
like well Thailand we give him this praise his Beast Masters his Viper's his
primal beasts like how's he gonna fare against you know the mechanical wizard of the storms the embers the pucks and
The nuisance of a GPK like this is just a first for us
Yeah, it's gonna be very cool to see how he does especially I mean
I'm not I hope that he plays something other than the viper
Just because he's such a good player like
Come on, but he can be good. He is he is good in the Viper
Sure, but that but that but I feel like the ceiling of the Viper is lower than the ceiling of Thailand
Sure, but I promise you this is not sarcastic his itemization on Viper
Does show that he is like a skillful player in some games
He goes for like acts first in other games. He goes to BKB first
Then he clicks the BKB before he gets done there it is. Oh, there. Wow. That's yeah
I say that from a position of I had to work multiple tournaments when Topson showed Viper on like initially and
Everyone would do max top-seeing push wave and they would not think because we copy Topson and then four tournaments later
People started actually doing their own thing on Viper, but utilizing the entire toolkit
Tylong in this tournament. He is like in certain games. He'll do poison attack another game
He's doing talks like he is playing each game differently even if he is playing Viper
But yeah, of course when you look at a player like Talon, you're gonna naturally gravitate towards I want to see him on
Ember's way has 20 billion remnants and he's like, you know miracle 2.0 play style
But also he's a system player. He's gonna help his team win
Yeah, oh that what the reason that I'm I was curious about this is because I
Think it's for me very difficult to gauge Beth Booms
Power level right now. Whereas for heroic
obviously other than the Viper. It is easier to gauge because I've seen them more tested,
if you will. I feel like they had to work harder for their wins and they have showed
their true strength in both gameplay and in draft, and in believing that their strategy
is good because I remember them letting the shadow fiend through twice where the second
time around we're like, oh come on, you're going to do this again and they got an earlier
meatball and it all worked out in the end but I feel like this one is a
difficult one to predict for me but because of that I would sway towards
heroic I think heroka is more like flavor in the dress they have the
pods they have meatball they have like a lot of these fun heroes and calf
drafting has always been really interesting and I remember I talked to
with the last PGL and he showed me papers for one day of their drafting and
it was it was so thick and he's like if they pick this this this he like didn't
I can't go through the whole thing with me, but he does so much prep work, and this is also the stage of the tournament that you've way more time to prep.
You know the teams that you'll be playing, you can prep everything in the morning or at the night, and I'm pretty excited just to see kind of how their minds clash.
And especially these two players, they're similar, but very different in what they do. They're both very fast-paced players.
The biggest hero for both of them is Ursa. I think they both have like an 80% win rate just about.
Yuma has a little more specialized hero. He has like his Mipo is the big one whereas Kiritich I think generally the plays more standard
kind of like
One of the five carries he plays like the Muerta. He's always been very well known for
So I think it's a big question of how they use their aggression levels in this kind of game in this draft and kind of how they use their heroes to
Hit those early game timings on the Roshan the tormentor because I think both of these teams will play pretty fast after the laning stage
and I think
Correct me if I'm wrong me we saw whisper having the rampage on the page
Yeah, he's not the only player on the side of a road that could they could pick it up
Yeah, they could use even project a flex pick. Yeah Yuma likes playing it a lot
He's always been just a big punch player. They like the I don't know if they'll pick it
But the punch see him combo was always like a super classic or lich and I have great new shiver the vipers band
Yeah
Oh, I do I do like that
So again, let's see. I don't know I because especially with the point of TV is like we haven't seen time long for this TPK
I want to see like the classic matchup and because we can't have shadow fiend versus shadow fiend
You know I'll do with the with the puck versus avoid spirit like let's see that one
So we would take the shadow fiend I am okay with it. I actually would have like shattered even more
The it's felt a bit off and I think there's a lot of solutions that her oak would like I think Ursa already good for shadow fiend
You have the wind good versus shadow fiend
So these supports that kind of enable the strong cores have been looking a bit better
Namely, I would say the biggest ones to be honest are shadow shaman. I like these two supports
That just seems so good to pick early in the draft
Yeah, I mean early day shadow fiend of course look at it. It's very very powerful
But her work already with the tusk band kind of setting the foundation getting rid of like more slaughter
If shadow fiend always needs people around him to do well
He can never hit without a team. He just stands there. He's a turret and then
Federer's running away. Yeah, so that's where I'm like I'm already leaning towards like they work
They already like they knew that Shadowfiend will get potentially first picked
Let's take away some of that foundation have our own pickoff and map play because if you're playing the side of the map if you're finding pickoffs
Shadowfiend never gets to you know, drag his team together. That is one way to play. It's always a little bit volatile, but
Great bands there from BB of course, Lepo and Ursa. Here's what you're mentioning a lot
And we talk about shadow fiend needing to you know, be a turret if you stand still and get hooked and you're displaced
So I think this is their offline response to the shadow fiend
I was I was curious
I thought it would actually be their carry because I think carry podge is decent for shadow fiend
But they liked it and they won the lane pretty hard it would there was actually a solo kill whisper did on the shadow fiend
So it's probably just they're off in duo for BB is I like Marcy here
It's good savers the pudge and the shaman because you can like jump your shadow fiend out
There's always the tree which they do pick. I think obviously if this was day one of the tournament we would go
Okay, let's call it. They have their shadow fiend tree, but especially these days it doesn't feel as
GG and
Even there's a shadow demon in the pool which has had very good successors both of these heroes
It's like ringmaster or shadow demon are the heroes that you would lean towards in the fall position right just have some type of nice save
I think remastered feels slightly better for the damage aspect, just like the poking of lane, but again both here are just so good, right?
It's a very incredible 4 position pick up potentially for BB, and then yeah, 3 SF.
The lane is gonna be very powerful, of course, but it's the type of lane where you naturally want to go aggressive,
and with a Pudge, it just takes one hex, one hook, one something,
You don't hit a triple raise or a double raise and you actually can die yourself with it like a TP as well
So you just need to be mindful and they do go for the shadow demon again
There's like two very good for in the pool
I think the shadow man is good for BB
But it's always scary to see this support deal for me because they're both very very low support like damage and I think in the
Yeah, I think in the meta you generally want either one of your supports to be high damage or high stun as was to kind of double save
The closest to B would be a ringmaster, kind of what you're saying is it's save and damage to some extent like it gives you
900 magic damage in these early mid game fights
The way that they're drafting they are pretty much setting up for our
Calls will be so efficient in laning phase that our supports won't feel the pressure because we just keep playing our lanes
And then I think the way that BB broke Navi was there was like the first three to four minutes of the game was like flawless
They can then sit on mid lane and just get every single room get double water runes get the active rune at six
Then they have the wisdom advantage, because GPK has resources, the enemy mid doesn't.
When I see these supports in other teams' hands, I would be worried.
But I'm already envisioning them sitting at mid lane very early on because of how efficient they can be.
Of course, I guess parts of them might need to be mindful.
I like TA here for Herok. The supports don't do anything to the TA.
It's a matchup that's pretty okay. It's okay, there's not many heroes that are good outside of the Ursa.
There's also Marcy, which is acceptable, and I think Razor kind of fits the anti-shadow
fiend mentality that we've been seeing pick up, which is a hero that has extremely physical
damage and kind of just like, are all in commits.
I worry about it versus the support matchups, because I hear that all it does is walk in.
You're playing versus overgrowth, you're playing versus shadow fiend and ult.
Sure, you'll buy Manta to help, but it's still some issues I see, and his team has the tools
to help him, but it can also, I can see this is one of the times where you see the Razor
walk in and then the Shadowfiend pikes him, hits him six times and he's done.
They're also describing a Shadowfiend that has Pike, Daedalus, BKB, like three, four
items, heroic. They're timings, it's like one item punch, it's the BKB on a Razor or the
Mantle on a Razor and then the way the Shaman Dazzle plays is like they throw their cores
in. Shaman through pickoff and Dazzle through grave and heals, lock it and mech or whatever.
So I am seeing kind of a disparity in like who wants to make the first move, the issue
who is the heroic, they want to make the first move,
and if they make a mistake, they will get outscaled
like Anna's mentioning.
So like the emphasis is on heroic,
like how do they utilize their heroes,
what is their way, are they using serpent wards
to take towers, are they using serpent wards
to snipe an early Roshan, like what is their
their kind of aspect, of course nowadays
it's more towards towers than Roshan.
That's a very high win rate on the Ember spirit, 63%.
Pretty good, the heroes are good, pretty much.
Very consistently, I think it's the modern pango,
but it doesn't feel as annoying, where it just says here that
kind of can go even in most lanes, but then even if it loses,
it's going to have impact in the game, especially with the new,
the fast at the chaining.
It's always going to actually do something in the game.
Even I've seen like games, it's versus a Huskar, and it's the
worst possible matchup.
And at some point you randomly chain a guy, you have a vessel,
you kill him, and then, oh, all right, sorry, I have my shivers,
the game's just good again.
You could also describe certain patches and dota are more
towards the items rather than the heroes, right?
At the moment, you can entertain the idea how vessel is very
powerful. You just mentioned Sheevers. We see Puck, Ember, even Offlane is rushed to buy the item,
even Tidehunter from 33 did it yesterday. Ember can buy them all by himself. And the way that he
plays into the map, he kind of does more than what other midlanes does. So these supports,
as long as Ember's running forward, the supports don't feel the pressure to have to follow him.
He can do some solo stuff.
There was a Weaver ban, so Ember...
I hung to mid Razor. Is that what they're thinking?
yep probably I mean I'm already there's a house car like they have to ban the
house car it's not his band oh okay there are initial bands well yeah they
okay like for house cars so they kind of like prep to the embryo the issue I
guess is a lot of the ember counter picks are pretty weak in the meta like
monkey king was like the old one not a really good mid hero right now
shadow fiend just gets picked every game as a carry and then obviously if he's
already just a good house car Viper player you ban them so maybe they just
don't think that there's a better response to the Ember than the Razor.
I like the idea of the mid Razor, just for the fact that you buy that one item so quickly
and you want to play with your team, and then you can utilise that 24 pick.
Technically, you can also wait to see the 23 and then decide after, right?
Yeah.
When I see Ember shadowfiend and the passive supports that you mentioned, their entire
game plan is about the rules.
So if Razor is just like some push wave mid guy, he'll push the wave mid, he'll then
go on the rune, maybe take it, if he wins to 50-50, if he supports to there, and then
you get one item and you run at towers every single time.
I think the big item, honestly, is Greaves for Tylong.
I think if you can play here that goes Greaves, so Razor can.
I also think of Storm can go Greaves, would be probably the big two mid laners that would
want to buy it, because it's such a good Greaves game.
Most of the ways that that boom is catching right now is the Ember chains and the Trian
ult which both get purged by the grieves and the thing that also makes the storm
kind of interesting is the third final way of shouting in ult which doesn't
affect the storm's kind of escape mechanics. I'm trying to think how
spicy can you go on a last bit for Yuma right like there's pretty spicy there's
like brood mothers available because only ember with like she was down the line
can actually kind of deal with him you don't really want to buy BKB too early
You want to be a bit more aggressive
But there is a world where this razor because it's flexible
Opens up the draft so much and you already see Yuma. He's still talking about it. If it's Yuma
He might want Marcy. So it's like very last week. I feel like I'll me pose already bad. I mean, it was bad
We'll be me bow like clings is available broods available
There's like some spice of Marcy that we saw shiro on which he gave me. I think he's reminded everybody how good the hero can be
Yeah
If they're gonna pick a carry I think it should be the melee carry that pairs well with the dazzle has an aggressive lane
buys like BKB Manta, so it's something like agility universal kind of
Vibe and there's not many of those which is why I kind of lean towards a mars if they wanted him to be a hero
I think the lane will be really strong
It's a good carry matchup for the at shadow fiend and it pairs with the razor because you kind of like enable him
You like give him this actual mobility to jump in and it's really good versus shadow demon. I
I will give a lot of credit to Heroic though, in the fact that if it wasn't Heroic's name next to this draft, it's easy to be very critical on it, where it's like the heroes, it's all about individual playstyle, like it's not as cohesive and beautiful as like BB's on it, right?
Like their heroes together it just looks like a draft that you can copy paste to any position in a tournament ago
They can win the game right but for heroic is
How they utilize the grieves on a razor how they get whisper in the correct position to hook a shadow theme to kill him off to break their draft
It's
Credit to her right for being you know staying true to themselves. I agreed
I think they picked brussel here seemed pretty good to me. It's like a take a hero runs in
Oh, they do okay. That's really cool actually still great for the pick me up that you mentioned earlier into
I punch hook Shawn and grab pick me up go away. I like that so much
I genuinely think that
Herok really wanted the Marcy and they were not expecting this
I saw you were kind of like made a weird face when the Marcy got picked. He's like, oh, okay now
Not only did my carry get stolen, but now I have to deal laning with the Marcy, which is kind of hard and
And
This is it that's good. I I mean, I'm trying to think of what they want now
There's like a small
But it's like brutal clink so the ones I'm leaning towards but I
Could see a Sven for armor gyro pops it
I
Don't like it. I do much. I didn't I didn't really want to talk about dark up to too much
especially after the Marci pick, because like Marci is like the hero you pick into ranged
carries, right? Like you buy BKB bash, you jump on top of them, sure Jaru can go butterfly
down the line, but historically Marci is like the anti-range carry hero. It can buy the
man to the BKB, the pike, the item that you wanted from the carry roll, but just because
of that aura of potential Marciing, I was like, let's hold off on the Jaru conversation.
So yeah, the battle will just simply be, how does Meru do in the lane versus the Jaru?
And then Yuma needing to just respect the fact that he is going to be a major target in this game.
Are they still going to try to set as fast of a pace as we talked about earlier, and these are the even possible against this lineup?
Yeah, I think Heroic's entire mentality will be clay or strong laning phase, like Gyaracopter plus Dazzle, the poison touch, the barrage, that they're going to need to play aggressive into that lane.
Tyla will get an aura, Whisper will get like a blink dagger or some axe or whatever,
and then you just sink all these heroes together and you just keep running into BD basically.
Yeah, they want to play really fast. I think the best move that Hero can do to kind of,
I don't want to say salvage, but like win this game is taking the gate and
pressuring the Shadowfiend. I think that's always the biggest thing is the faster you can take the
tower, the lower level, the tree armor, so that it's way easier to take. Also Shadowfiend, we see a
lot, he like dies once and then TP's back dies the second time. Just opening the side of the map is
kind of heros game. Just contest
wisdoms please. That's all I
care for. Well, we're going to
have an opinion of two other
guys. Of course, Vaga and
Gareth here on the on the
screens. How are you doing
guys? Morning. Good morning.
That's been a long time since
you left here when I was here
too. I need to know a lot about
the mid lane. Got Ty Long for
his duplicate first time. Yeah,
I mean, Ty Long, he's been
looking amazing. I'm actually
very excited to see what he can
bring here. I think that he's
been, you know, praised by a
lot of people for what he's
been doing. He just seems to
have a very good understanding
and I've been telling Gareth
His mechanical skill is just so clean. Yeah, but Razor versus Ember. I think the matchup is fine enough
I don't think it is focused on hard shutting down the Ember but later on in the team fights
Ember struggles to do hard single target damage and Razor can be a hard hero to burst for a hero like Ember
And especially with that some healing. Okay. Well, looking forward to seeing it
Of course looking forward to listening to you guys game number one. Take it away. Thank you so much
Let's get into it game one as we get ourselves in this series between heroic and a bet boom and that gyro last pig a
Hero that heroic used the last time they played against bet boom in their first series win against them as an or because it had all
Been bet boom for a couple of years until 2025 a blast lamb for where you may play that gyro copter
It's something that here could maybe all might see a fusion as the team fight is already starting before creeps even spawn
Disruption inter-disposed, Whisper's Pudge being dragged back in.
He's graved up by KJ though to get a bit of distance from save.
Counter-Omi, the final touch. Long range will take the kill and take down Whisper.
And fairly not able to stay alive there.
Didn't have a Firefire for himself to try and pop towards the end.
Magic Stick was not going to be enough to save him, I think.
It's a good start for them and also Grave was forced.
So not just as a First Blood, but Basil does not want to start with Grave level 1.
No poison touch!
This is really going to hurt his lane.
And that's a lane that was supposed to be hyper aggressive, be able to do a lot of damage.
You have the Jarocopter and the Dazzle.
And GPK apparently found that very funny, Batboom all laughing.
Incredible 5v5 in that bottom lane, all prepped up.
Everybody's just running at each other.
Yeah, they have to feel amazing now, knowing that, okay, they committed hard for trying to save,
and then it didn't work out, so now they feel confident going into this top lane.
And top lane, Batboom have a lot of kill potential as well.
disruption and to Marcy level 2 we could see some combinations come out on that lane.
And overall I do kind of like this idea of, you know, on on T's identity talk about heroic.
This idea of giving battle room that cookie cutter draft. All of the meta heroes, they've allowed them to have basically what they want.
But heroic have this, you know, CAF's draft that Gunner was talking about. The big stack of papers saying this hero deals with that.
This is our strategy, our overall tactic to deal with SF, to deal with this SD and Trian.
Yeah, nice start by GPK, some nice laning here on mid, finding a chance to go in for a last hit, even when static linked.
2 for 2 versus the 2 and 1, so Razer pushing lane a little bit is going to help the
embryo get his early CS.
Now we see top lane, Miro getting chipped away out by the flat heavens.
Not entirely an easy lane for the gyro as this develops though, like right now they're pushing the way forward as gyro does.
Let's save a mirror have a ton of tools here to get on top of this gyro
Inside a creep way start things off and do a lot of damage early on. Yeah for sure
They also played to block the camps they blocked both the big camp and a small camp
So save definitely don't doesn't want any pools to be happening and
Considering is great. You can really fight against the SD alone
I see the flag being used as a disruption him to run away
I was taking fair amount of damage there, but you're right, with those two camps locked up, you've pushed the wave and now you've got to go back and sentry to be warded up.
Mid continues to be a pretty decent time for GPK, as we see them mostly farming. It's not going to be very easy for Razor to put serious pressure onto the Ember.
That leaves bottom lane, that we haven't talked about too much. The boots first, Triant, should be pretty mobile and able to play front in front of the SF.
Not that easy to get a good hook on that lane.
on that lane.
And the grave on Yume here, if they play forward onto Miro, disruption though, buys time for
this Marcy to get back.
Yume healed by the shadow wave and the rocket brush comes, but the fairy fire up from the
save allows him to get the kill.
Miro looks like he's going to be okay to tow the line here and get some graves, but
they heal shadow wave bombs and no you're not.
These jungles get the two for one trade while bottom lane.
Heal the core on the run from Kata, over me and things will settle down.
Wow.
Okay, I saw it that that lane was going to be a little bit difficult for him, but the
Grave actually works out really well, turning that play around, of course, amplifying up some healing.
It's really on the edge, and now save, dying and TPing bottom, gets them and opening up the field of core.
Kat, Omi, and save, from pairing up there to kill off this offlane support,
and of course you can pop through the twin gate to head back top again.
This is something we've seen a lot from the successful teams, is really early movements between the lanes,
especially when a support dies, always looking towards making those rotations, using the gate,
and coming back, of course they scan him, so they're fully aware they can't come back.
I'm so glad there's no more bottle refilling, right?
Because that used to be the thing, you support dies, you go mid, refill bottles, they are so boring!
Now, you can't do that, you have to do something else, which is get other lanes! Make action happen!
I'm actually so happy about that too. I was screaming my lungs out about stop this bottle of use, you know?
I understand there was a mechanic everyone could use, but I found it to be so boring.
Case in point!
Yeah, you do all the harassment you can, but now look at this game!
We have low HP mid laners. They're gonna be vulnerable because he moves happening.
Action can happen. Instead of just a TP refill.
So much more entertaining.
Yeah.
Efficiency isn't always fun.
I feel like we're getting run out again by Kat's Ermy.
No real kill threat for Whisper.
Oh!
Whilst I turn into something bigger, look into Rot, the shackles come and the Shadow Theme
overstepping.
Yeah, there.
Nice timing found by Whisper. We saw him dominate in the previous game on pot.
She's already shown we can do in this year here at this tournament.
He got a rampage, Gareth, in a game where we had, right?
He did, like, what, 20 minutes in?
Yeah, and he's definitely been on point with his hooks.
Top lane, a bit of a dive from Yuma and King Jungle's past the tier one.
Dangerous territory, though, as Yuma does get dragged back in on the tower.
Jumping forward, Grave will save.
Yuma turns to try and fight with a shadow wave.
He only got Miero.
Yes, he's got one more touch.
He's behind the trees. They can't see him, but they've got the damage over Ty.
It has to be a respectful here touching load of damage.
Yeah, I knew you might know.
This keeps on going for it. He does turn and kill off the Dazzlebow.
And now Yuma with the tower hit, save just stands his ground and fights back.
Under estimating the SD innate, he was...
Menacing.
Yeah, he was feeling strong with the healing Lotus, a lot of baiting there, but Menace got up to 10 stacks.
That's 25% more damage from all sources that you're taking, including towers.
Yeah, very scary to go on the tower against him. They're saved.
Salva just in this situation quite well.
Well, I hope this has woken you all up. 9 kills, 5 minutes in, incredible start to our series.
First up in the day.
Mid lane still, just farming out.
Tylong 24 and 8, but GPK just slightly in the lead there.
Get some nice self-cancel with the slider fist, so Tylong not having a bottle on the racer
is going to start us regenerating and get full HP again.
And with some room control, we could see a tempo difference coming out from the mid lane.
I have a spirit much, much more adept at traversing the map, playing into those side lanes.
I want to make sure that these catapults don't get too much damage in your tower either,
so for now, sitting and getting to level 6.
Also, yeah, a big change, right?
Because we've seen Betboom through this tournament and, you know, historically put a lot of focus on the 4-minute water rune even,
like before active rune comes in, but because we're so focused on side lanes here,
it is just a straight 1v1 mid until now.
6 minute rune, of course you want to guard the active rune, so a disruption into chase from GPK and with a tree in coming forward they've got that razor down.
And the other core who wanted to guard the rune has come across and doesn't get killed, that move instead will back up as KJ denied the illusion.
Okay, gets to rune away at least, so Amber is not going to get a free refill, but of course he is an Amber Spirit, he's going to wait for the mana for a teleport, he's just going to TP base, get full and he's going to be back to the lane eventually.
potentially. So, just holding his mana.
Raging reward, pretty quickly de-warded.
See how the draw's still playing around in this mid lane.
Off he goes, he'll be back in time to be defending his own wisdom.
We do see a bit of a move towards top.
Might be intention to invade.
Man, a GPK doesn't have a TP to get up here.
So it's the three of heroic chasing it to Miero.
They're changing targets though.
instead going for the shattered demon of save
because he's a more open target to blow up
and Yuma removes his spree and seven minutes in
and will go for the wisdom shrine
but Eber is here
TPK has come in
the TP base remitted back
arrives at the top lane fighting into Yuma
the grave and Tylong's arrival is going to slay Miero
and now this Ember spirit annihilated under the damage of harrowing
You make the field of a touch
the Drian trying to whack into him
the gyrocopter barely dies
KJ and the other Corker track back on the Katomii while Tylong blows up Kyrotage!
He gets him solo diving him under the tier 2 and barely staying alive, nicely done by Tylong.
And that works out amazingly for Heroic, largely because of Tylong's arrival as well there.
So, but...
Bedroom bring 5 and lose a 4 for 1 trade?
Yeah, and they just trickled in, one by one effect.
Got punished for it and we see how these heroes can interact together as well.
Nicely diving with the Shavshaman and the Dazzle.
The double wisdom shrine as well a massive victory for heroic, and then whispers bottom lane laughing
Yeah, great. I get to solo lane get all my farm going. Yeah, he's just sitting there getting bigger. Get the face boots
All right. Okay, calm down. It's eight percent. Okay
Jesus what
Okay, I think Vota plus this is a big punch fan, you know, like 90 percent chance. Okay, dude
I guess if whisper keeps landing the hooks the way we saw him doing the previous game then, you know
Probably still wouldn't be 90%.
It's a pretty big indication though, right?
Getting double wisdom shrine, a massive team flight victory.
Continuing to farm, and you've got all these pretty good tempo heroes to keep the ball rolling.
Yeah, for certain, and they've already set up some nice vision down bottom as well.
They have a deep ward on the tower, so it could look to play towards Whisper.
For now, though, it's going to be a bad boom going on him.
They just grasp.
As if it was a ulti.
Into some razors.
Of course, but now he's dead there.
Yeah, nice roots holding him in place there can't even get close enough to use the ulti on the SF
I've had so much action. Yeah, GPK is gonna come in like any stacks anything to farm a tiny medium camp stack to be taken down
On the other side give a try and farm through some jungle camps himself
I mean farming farming enemy stacks with the creep wave on you as well. That's hyper efficient
So ember is getting close to the face boots from this
I'm quite a shallow smoke here from Heroic on that side of the river from top to one
through the twin gate.
Also, I just realized, save us six kills.
You see how rich this shadow of you is?
He's got so many of the last hits.
What the hell, man?
He's huge.
Yeah, he's more farmed than the Marcy.
He's the new POS3.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Smoke breaks.
I don't find the observable there, it's a little further to the northeast.
Yeah, I've praised this ward in particular before, right, taking the time to go over there.
It was Katomi that time as well, he likes doing this.
Yeah, that one there.
Yeah, I've detected a pattern, I'm not even studying the teams here, but I'm seeing multiple
times Katomi walks to place that particular ward.
Yeah, it's such a wide area, you want to put that sentry closer to the Tormentor, closer
to the Twin Gate to give me.
I'll be using that. Thank you, Capome.
What do you mean you'll be using it? You play cool!
What are you talking about?
I've actually played quite a bit of support too.
You're gonna be versatile if you wanna climb the ranks.
That's true. I'll push on the top tier one.
Serpent Ward's expended.
And full response here is the alarm bell rings for Batboom to come and defend their tower.
Ward gets some damage, but not really what you want.
Mostly forcing a lot of reactions is the payoff there.
It does feel good to slow down GPK though. The Zemba Spirit with the urn would love to be continuing this active, roaming, killing kind of style.
Instead, he just has to sit mid, gather up the creeps and try and finish off the Spirit Vessel.
Yeah, I think right now there's more urgency perhaps from GPK to get stuff done, whereas Tylong just wants to hit his Greaves.
He wants to get his timing where he has Greaves, they have Dassel for extra healing, and then they can start grouping going as five on the side of the heroic.
use those Rastar words to take big objectives. That's where I see their line up peaking really
well. Whereas Radiant, they mainly want Ember to activate now and get towards BKB timings
on their side lane course. So their vision is a bit down the road. And obviously, Kirtik
is going to go for the Kayasha and Blink combo on SF, so carry SF, yes, but he's going to
be playing very active.
Yeah, maybe I've missed a trick here, but it looks like Yuma going for this chrysalis
Agnusceptor, Shades of the Past, going for an older build,
whereas we've seen recently a lot more of this like DragonMant, Manta, BKB,
the Parker build, right, with all the stats.
I'm surprised they didn't go Manta-style here. It's a very good Manta game, as
even mentioned by Gunnar on the panel there,
getting the Dispel would be really nice. But yeah, I mean, this is still a very
strong build overall. It farms really fast and it's quite survival with HP from
This was the build for a long time. It is very strong without a shadow of a doubt.
A bit of a go on the Razor around this rune.
At the bottom spot, they'll hook back the tree. If they slam him up, the Pudge does drag the enemy into the midst of battle.
They're very good rune control heroes with Rasta, with a hard disabled Pudge for hooking back.
Ember wants the runes, but Razor is able to deny it with friends.
with friends. So yeah with the gyro build what do you think this indicates? Because I feel like the
Parker build with those stats right indicates you want to actually get involved somewhat?
Um yeah this is more farming oriented for a while. A little greedier? Yeah you might generally
want to get a few items and then start really you know putting down the pressure with sometimes
you see other players want to activate super early with the gyrocopter. As I say that he's been part
of eight kills you know he has been fighting he's been fighting on his lane for sure but
christeness is a good damage item it's a good little incremental build up for yourself
he kind of needs it too to go through some of the protection there's level four living armor
already and if you want to deal damage to to marcie who already has pretty good armor
with the face boots plus dominator build i can kind of understand it sometimes you know fortune
favor the bold go for those rng items get the crits go for the percentage plays
oh invasion coming in they were spotted defensive observer and sentry they come
and defend this back up to arriving razor and dazzle getting blown up by
bedroom they're trying to heal and the overgroves gonna lock them in place to
take them down a swift move in here from bedroom to find three and four in a row
Goddamn, that was painful for them. They did not have Pudge ready.
I don't know if they thought that they could defend, but Pudge was just not really ready in time to join them.
And ultimately, Dazzle got bursted before getting Grave off, and that made everyone topple over so quickly.
Very, very successful move, despite the fact that there was a Warden sentry on the gates.
Yeah, I thought they would have time to react to this.
They knew it was coming, right? They de-warded. They knew the battle was arriving.
We're arriving at look at touch HP right now. He just arrived in base. So he's healing up on fountain
He if he was in base 10 seconds earlier, I think they could fight this but he was not ready
I think they should have tried to get away from that fight numbers advantage big difference when you're playing 5v4
This gives a lot of fire over for bed boom now able to play a little bit faster
Got the top tower open up
And much more room now for that Marcy
So with the Helmcreep you can start dragging those waves and really making top lane uninhabitable for anyone in the northern jungle.
It is really impactful that Sape already has a Solarcrest. We're 14 minutes in and he has a Solarcrest ready to buff up his team and he's got some good heroes to carry it.
On Tylong, two-man change from GP K to start things off, nice rebound in on top as well, they'll grave quite early here as Tylong is getting blasted.
Ning jungle is already dead, but with a spirit vessel on the razor, you'll have to pop the grieves to try and disengage.
Another vessel is applied though, and a rebound in, not quite on the mark, but it disposed back into the third and fourth round.
Oh ho ho, fortunate there, but a good kill nonetheless on Tylong.
It comes heroic though, trying to defend this zone, losing two heroes, killing the Marci off in the trade, but still a good aggressive move from Bat Boom.
That was a really funny dispose into the Rasta Ward, but yeah, nice dive again, the SD disruption used very nicely, defensively, but yeah, this is what GPK wanted.
He wanted to be able to invade, play aggressive, get use out of this spear vessel, which obviously counters out Dazzle and the Grebes really, really well.
of five charges on it but they start using them. The Mage Slayer has an item of choice
here, makes a lot of sense, he has all these spellcasting heroes. Another go, Razor can
have the Greaves to disengage here from Spirit of Vassal, he's holding onto it though for
a long time, Tylong. Waiting and fighting his time, maybe trying to use it with a grave
to heal up and sustain. As Bippoom go for round three diving him under tier two with
the 4-man overgrowth, GPK's deep, but they've got a rectum to fear them back,
Yuma gets jumped on and heroic, they're just as big as Mantle by Beth Boom!
Dive into the tier 2 tower, a 5-man wipe in 16 minutes!
Holy crap, what an execution by Beth Boom, that's insane!
Beautiful ulti there, they used a lot of stuff layered nicely,
they kept Petrient alive, he was focused first, but the disruption helps him stay alive
and then he gets off this massive ulti, setting up his team for success.
All the pieces just come together.
Yeah, even the pick-me-up facets coming out from the Marseille,
because that's something that has become more and more trendy, right?
We used to always have more aggressive Marseille gameplay,
but this pick-me-up utility is good even on a core, throwing your SF forward.
But look here, if Treant died, you know, it would have been awful for them.
Instead, he gets saved, and they can facilitate this dive.
And look at the ulti he gets on K'athor'al-Main, just one second here.
good positioning for that left-hand tree line and then it's overgrowth into
Requiem into Inter-3 man stun from Marcy as well like they changed it really
really well once again heroic just on the back foot as Betboom the ones able
to dictate how quickly this game ramps up and an I'm K lead now for them 19 to
11 at 18 minutes usually we see all these fights and those action come post
roch and post-torn enter and that 88% win probability has shifted pretty
dramatically yeah yeah I don't know what that is feeling now but you know we
see some big power spice coming in as well blink dagger on the SF now with
the kaiyashia so in 20 seconds he has ulti he could be looking for pick offs
ember got his hands on a mage slayer which is going to mitigate a lot of
punches damage output in particular overall just a good item to have as well
as he doesn't want to get blown up too fast.
What do you reckon the game plan now is for Heroic?
Is it wait for big items?
I think you need your Jarocopter to get strong, yeah.
The Aghanim Zephyr is going to be very necessary,
maybe even Aghanim's and BKB,
so he can really stand his ground and deliver,
because right now there's a bit of a carry difference in impact.
Like SF is obviously more farm,
but I also think the SF ulti is doing way more work
than the damage output that Jarocopter brings.
And there's Kira Jets working on his BKB back in the jungle.
The rest of the team pressing forward.
Top jungle has that radiant observable ward watching for anyone, and the GPK plays from
that vantage point in towards mid, always backed up by the shadow demon of save.
So the gun's protection buddy system.
Trian with SF, Asti with Ember.
Very difficult for Heroic to find any kind of smoke opening to get a single pick off.
I think Save is the tricky impact on this hero, on this game.
Basically the way he plays on the Shadow Demon has been really really nice.
His position is clean, he's going to use his menace now to enable them to take a super fast Roche.
So basically they need to get on him if they want to kill anybody.
Yeah, menace stacks, cash off 50% damage increase for everything.
And then you have massive armor reduction on top of that.
No wonder Roche falls fast.
And of course, 30 seconds for Tormentor, there's probably no way Heroic must start to fight on that.
So they're just going to play for BKB timings. It's going to be Pudge farming his BKB as well.
That does hurt Tylong's game a lot though. He wanted to make stuff happen with the Guardian Greaves.
He's got the Guardian Greaves and he's like, guys, I want to do stuff, so they're actually going to go for a smoke.
They saw 3 into mid lane and he's going to TP away.
They just got his axe on Gyro and yeah you can't just sit back and put the tidal wave wash over you
You do have to find openings on the map
We see team spirit do it very well
Very often is making these smoke plays not necessarily to find a team play
But to find a pick off and that allows them to wall play across the map get behind enemy towers and find the pockets of farm
Which otherwise they wouldn't have access to yeah, is he getting the shard as well a super nice thing to have for him
It's just not easy here for heroic, right? They don't have that manoeuvrable hero like a puck or ember who can play enemies out of the map with safety?
No, yeah, there's always going to be a chance that you get caught out. They have a
move force. Yeah, all their cores are very predictable in their movements
You don't have an ember or something like that. I know that macro manoeuvrability
Marcy wants to
try and force a fight with the BKB that she has
I'll see you here, they could just solo kill people without an leash, as an alpha wolf to
amp up that damage.
But they're quickly opening up the tier 2 tower, no defense, like I said, heroic, they're
really trying to get to those BQB timings, feeling like if they don't have them, they're
not going to be able to do anything.
And I cannot agree.
The Trianth ulti, the SF ulti, Marsistan even, these control spells, even Searing chains,
all of them are too annoying and they don't have much more than just the Guardian Greaves
to get rid of the stunts right now.
The catch port here, so it's a 22 minute high ground attempt.
And by attempt I mean taking half of the health of the tier 3 already.
Glyph into Glyph, so ready, free play, you're going to survive for the most part until Razor blasts it with a plasma field.
Tier 3 tower already gone though, it was heroic, not mounting a defense, and we just watched as Razor almost disappeared.
Grave comes out and saves him by some time for Ty Lung, dying to the damage over time from GPK.
That heal amplification grave completely mitigated by the fact a spear vessel just lowers the healing again.
Encouraged with that Aegis, pretty happy. Confident to sit there, hit tower, even at low HP.
Yeah, he's got the Aegis, so not feeling too scared, he also has saved behind him.
Completely dodged from heroic, not showing up, gyrogopter farming that left side of the map.
on the map. Man, how fast everything just fell over after that one tier, one defense up top.
That shows just how volatile progames can be. They felt like they were in a good spot. I thought
they were in a good spot. Don't plus go there in a good spot. Definitely. But the game flips. Yeah,
they give away one massive team fight into a tower, into full map control and that just,
you know, that boom, you give them a little bit and they will just absolutely explode on the map.
Give them a lane, they'll take your base.
Crimson Guard and Ember Spirit.
Why the hell not?
Spirit Vessel makes Slayer Crimson.
I think GPK is unkillable now.
This is literally just keeping the foot down on the gas pedal, right?
He's saying we're gonna end the game before they can get their timings.
This is a weird item.
A lot of people may think like, why would he go for this?
But it's more affordable than some of the other items they could aim for.
If he wants to go Sheva's, that's a farther away item.
And early on, it's really impactful to have a Crimson Guard against this Razor and Gyaracopter.
Their auto attacks are going to be so weak, the Flak Cannon won't really hurt anyone.
Yeah, you've got all in on his Agnims, Chrysler's, BKB build for Yuma.
Crimson Guard says, nah, nah, nah.
And he already had a magic survivability from H-Slayer, so he just wanted some physical survivability.
Normally it would be a Shiva's, but this is nice. I really approve what GPK is doing here.
Oh for the first time, no surprises, they have faster than the average shining Earth, much faster.
Much, much faster.
Oh one lane still to play into, top tier two, the next port of call here for Betboom.
Oh, they saw the rest, now they won't punish him.
Any signs that heroic can remedy this awkward spot they found themselves in.
Peel the core, gonna get put in the ICU.
Well, top lane Whisper was trying to...
Weasel is way into a position maybe for a hook line up, but Trident is scouting him, and we're going to find that.
Yeah, Keth only sees him, but...
Watch out for the low.
His team is a little bit too far for catching this punch.
Oh yeah, the push is coming high grounds. How are the timings looking?
BKB's here for Gyro.
BKB is not here for punches, 100 gold off, and that 100 golds doesn't look like they're
going to stress up the high ground though with the Aegis timing out.
I think Bedboom are saying you know what we've been playing incredibly fast, let's just make
sure we have Aegis on the final push, so we're going to take a small break here and I think
Whisper is thankful for that so he gets to finish the BKB, that's the same time the
crimson guard over on tai long also going to be very useful against the side of
that room it will mitigate a lot of the damage and it is undispellable nowadays
it used to be countered by shadow even and his ulti but undispellable crimson
guard is really really strong for blocking damage output damage is still a
worry though right like yes you've got this green scrims and you've got bkbs on
heroic but damage wise gyro not quite at that point where you can dish it out
razors relying on the plasma field is really struggling to get a full
static link out because he's being focused so heavily.
They will need the power of friendship, Gareth, to deal damage.
All of them.
Doc, final time.
Yeah, they all need to contribute if they want to kill someone in a teamfight because
there will be saving attempts, there will be solar crest, there will be living armor,
there will be shadow demon disruptions, so they need to burst as much as they can to
kill anything.
Whereas, of course, Batboom with the 16,000 gold bead they have, it can be as simple as
just Marci jumping someone or SF ulting something and they are gone.
So much more precarious situation for Heroic.
And that has been the story, right?
The fact that Heroic don't have the manoeuvrability in the fights.
They're relying on a pudge hook to displace someone.
Or raise it to walk in, gyro to walk in.
Whereas Bedroom, they can poke with Ember Spirit, send a Remnant,
Slight and Chains, but Spirit Vessel on someone.
Spam out poison, disrupt a star.
Also, as Marci, like you're saying, you can just jump in and say hello.
I like the choices, well, coming out from Curetech to go for Silver Edge right now.
Obviously Shadowblade on SF, it kind of goes without saying that it's a good item.
that's a good item, but the full Silver Edge coming in,
it's gonna be really frustrating for a hero like Razor,
who wants to run around in the fights,
and you highlighted how these heroes are not very mobile.
They all kind of walk around,
sure, you can walk if you have BKB,
but what if you don't have BKB and you get Silver Edge?
You're just gonna sit there, basically locked in place.
All the fears about Quick Sand when I was growing up,
coming to fruition here with the Silver Edge,
stuck in the mud.
The dangers of quicksand was really greatly overstated, right?
Really overstated.
All we have to do is...
Aggressive move by Heroic. They want to try and cut them off before they're all gathered.
Play from some advantageous terrain, maybe, from a high ground or a staircase.
They say under their own vision.
So difficult, they don't see anything forward. So they're trying to play under your vision, like you said,
said but that means they're waiting up and that gives time for bedroom to start
grouping together can they at least find the tree in protector think he's gonna
just walk away this in this is so frustrating blink and tumblr story
gets the distance now he knows what's up to he's calling to his team guys
they're top eyes in the trees the owls see you coming well we've got a minute
and a half until Roche.
Got potential there for Heroic to go and contest that.
I love the quickfire coming in from Yuma.
That looks good.
That's a series, isn't it?
Yeah, I'm gonna remove this botanic and then it's good.
Just, uh, yeah, the rest of it.
Just a bit of damage.
No, I think that really points out what we were talking about too.
They have damage issues right now.
They cannot burst anything and that's very problematic
as the Bed-Boom lineup is certainly capable of bursting.
Ooh, Dazzle blinked in.
That's gonna work out fine for them.
He was quite alone, so that's nearly 800 gold for them, just killing a support.
Baby steps.
I have the gem on Pudge too, so they can now, with Treant Dead, start claiming some area.
It's not even about whether there are radiant words right there now
It's when you in this position as heroic having gem you find out that there definitely isn't any words, right?
It's their sense of freedom to walk out on the map because you and I we see everything
But the players don't really know where can we even go now? It's map has been very dark for heroic
Yeah, let's up green for that boom with all the trees. Yeah covered with these trees
So whisper can get rid of them now
Securing himself some space, so 16,000 deficit, but it is possible to recover from here.
They just need to really go all in on damage and then somehow have a fight where Yuma is allowed to auto-attack.
You need to expand the sphere of influence. You can't just be stuck in your base following the same two camps over and over again.
You need to expand.
And Batboom, on the other hand, they feel like this is completely illegal.
They are so strong, so they're going to just make a wraparound move, control the roast area,
And then if they don't find anyone they will go Roche. If they do find someone they might even think about high ground
Nobody there, so it's into the Roche pit
Quick and easy for them to take this down
Again very very hard to contest Roche against the lineup that kills it in about like what 12 seconds? Yeah 15 seconds
If you see how far ahead they are
When Roche and Rawls they don't even do the soft reset that we've seen so many times they just continue
Fencing floor and that was with save sitting outside just being rages and you know protect them disrupt people
If he was in there, they could take it even faster, but playing it disciplined
Keeping good positions
There's of course gem on both teams so now that the ages in the hand of that room
Marcy is making sure to get some d words in
Very quick to clear out the waves
The Daedalus is in for Yuma, so with a little bit of RNG, he can't do a decent amount of damage.
He still very much would like even more though, because he knows all three cores are pretty farm and radiant, SF being 4000 gold ahead of him.
And with the Aegis as well, it's just rough.
I'm still reliant on that Dazzle Grave as well, with the eyes on King Junkers positioning in the upcoming teamfight.
Yeah, as if getting the shard. Not the most impactful shard right now, but if he hits level 25
It's gonna be a really big thing to have that shard as he gets the shadow rays applies damage attack damage on the races
All right sat in their base waiting for the monsters to come
And they're gonna crawl in you know to the triangle with the gem on Mars
You're gonna try and get up get the D word on the cliff doesn't look like her
I really want to go for a play they could maybe sit around with punch look for a hook
But it's days to scantra and farm top. I
Think they don't want any fight outside bases thing even if he was there playing on that D word it would be very dangerous
Just a pen top
Don't let that boom inside the base, but they've left the back door open
I'm going to use this opportunity to jump on the shadow charm and feel the core dead.
It doesn't even turn into a sheep.
Yeah, Silverage stops the sheep.
You don't even get the foul play trigger.
It's broken and slain, but does have buyback.
Tie a lung thing, poke that.
Already Beppu is trying to elicit a reaction and force Heroic to react.
See, in the meantime, he's getting whacked by Kiritich.
It's a difficult siege to respond to but it's your last lane of racks you can't let this fall
I'm gonna have to delay things at least slightly for now
And you my looks like he's disassembling to get that rape here up
Still needs a ton of money there to finish it. Oh my god
He sells the recipe
Trying the buildings. He's trying to sell everything
He's disassembling magic stick because you get more gold as a jarcopter if you sell recipes
So you need to sell the recipe of the magic stick to get all the gold he needs if he didn't do this
he would have too little gold but it's taking so long all these little things while you're off
shopping that room they're just destroying your base so rapier is there one last stitch effort
remaining but you can't smoke up your base and go run at them though can you you would
have waited for them to come to you yeah this is a 30 minute rapier where you're basically
you're stuck in base with the rapier and at any given point you might get jumped by a marsy we jump
by SF coming in with the Silver Edge and Aegis. It's going to be very scary for Heroic to
leave base at all. And that boom, they're pretty happy. It's only been half an hour
and they already have secured the main objective in Dota, get the mega creeps. Now it's just
about closing the game somehow. Looks like Shiva's going to come in soon on GPK. That's
going to prevent more of the healing. Of course, Heroic's lineup pretty heal dependent
with the Dassel and the Greaves on the Razor, Pudge with the healing from his ulti, and Rasta heals with his shackles.
Haruik do have that old classic, the Pudge Hook, something that could upset the balance of Batboom's teamfight approach.
And it is a rapier Jiro with Grave nearby, so positioning has to be important from the Haruik supports.
He's got the gunpowder gauntlet with attack range on it. No lifesteal there for the gyro
Yeah
For now no lifesteal
I think it might even sell the falcon blade just get the morbid mask even the casual mask is pretty significant
Oh my shit whisper though gets initiated on and falls to bkb
GP can this Marcy from the arrow uses as an opening to go forward under tier three towers
You know the core, you're gonna get dragged back into the Requiem as Heroic lose their
Shadow Sharman.
Ask the boy back, Razor broken and half HP sitting back by the tier 4s.
He's just timing out in 10 seconds on the SF, they're trying to make them jump, but
a rebound save.
Now pick me up, get the SF out, while I hook on the tree and it will find a snipe at least
for Heroic as for now they've held their base.
That's a good hook.
I really like how Shadow Demon decided to disrupt the gyrocopter there.
He's been saving a lot of his own teammates in the fights.
But this time he realizes that with the gyrocopter having a rapier,
the best thing he can do is just take him out of the fight
in the crucial moment when he dropped the ulti on gyro and wanted to auto attack,
he was not allowed to do so.
Broic.
Coming out of their base.
They scan forward into the ancients.
Oh, oh, on the SF.
An opening, but a save from the disruption.
Shadow team advised to have a cure-tich to pop.
The Satanic lives still back up to full.
The Elacor dies back.
Whispers getting clicked.
Grave gonna delay things here.
You must step forward.
It does take down the SF.
Gyro with his rapier getting a job done somewhat.
A rebound, remnant jump over the top.
And the Gyro will fall in the end.
The GBK and the Arrow.
I mean heroic tried but with rape you're on the floor Marcy picks it up and becomes the real carry in this one
There's so tanky that this this embers 50 armor right like 50 so much to go through you spend all your resources killing off their stuff and ultimately
You run out of gas. Okay. You're gonna blink away from the rebound of the arrow has BKB rapier basher
I dispose and I move up the whisper with GPK there, but a buyback hour pretty much everyone
And a hook on Miro grabs the Marci, dragging her back in.
Look at Rape Gear back to the gyro, he bounce out, get some distance. KJ giving chase.
Save and Miro on the run for the cooldowns coming.
I can touch, unleash there, breaks free.
They don't have any more chase.
And meanwhile they're losing the base, it wasn't all in attempt to try and catch the Rape Gear,
but ultimately it's falling too short.
Well try as they might, Heroic. They pulled out all the stops to try to battle back, but so many things went wrong in that mid-game as we head back to the panel.
Yeah, that was, I will say, a respect to Heroic for trying to drag it out and trying to find a way to come back.
But the way we were already talking about the draft and about the game was that Heroic should be the one setting a fast tempo, but it was not the case.
Because it was Betboo constantly setting the pressure.
It was bad. There was maybe some glimpses. There's like, oh, wow, this the seven minute wisdom. It's that's a humor classic
It's a heroic classic. They all go there. They get four kills to the fourth one
Like all right games kind of fast and then there's this play on the top tier one where they kind of trickle in one by one
Dead and I think after this one play it was just
Nothing. Yeah, I think her roots been a little bit lucky here because production didn't add the first six minutes of the game
into the highlight role right unfortunately against BB. They are the strongest team at how they move their support on them that they are very
methodical heroes like Shadidy Moon Tree you could argue don't want to be that aggressive tree can of course the recruit but the way that they made moves in
the early game was exceptional which enabled the clips that we're seeing on the screen right now
we're enabling these dives right I've I've watched countless GPK games where he just gets everything he wants right it's
It really is a matter of right need to respect the early game if they want to be able to play out a competitive game in the series
Yeah, I think the draft for the most part for heroic was
Good up until maybe the last few couple picks like the radio diro
For me, there are some issues. I think the Marci pick really cool. It was a bit. I actually amazing. Yeah, I
I 100% believe that that was what herobrine them for the last pick.
They fixed a lot of the stuff with their drafts to kind of have a nice pair with the Razor.
And because of that, now they have these like ranged heroes, it's kind of mediocre.
And he looked the other side, this Ember was just not consistent at all.
I think GPK just kind of like ran away with the game and he put in so much work.
You know, we said like, oh, Razor is like a, it's a good match for this Ember,
but end of the day it's not a destroy Ember matchup
and any matches that won't destroy the hero
is a good matchup for Ember.
Yeah, and that was an Ember 18,
meaning for Bedman that was their most important pick
and at that point Razor was already picked by Heroic.
Like, was their plan always to put the Razor mid at that point?
Yeah, I think it was.
I feel like the way that they reacted to the Marcy,
it wasn't, okay, let's find a new mid to like change the script.
Like it was really about the safe lane.
I feel like the Razer mid was fine if they had a way to win out the safe lane better, right?
Because also you could argue Heroic safe lane wasn't the best.
They went to bot lane to try and play around the tree, they died, they level graved level 1.
Now they're playing a Jiro Dazzle lane and of course, TPK is MVP.
I feel like we say that half the game he plays, right? So I'm not too shocked by that one.
I want to quickly highlight the item that TPK bot in that game, which I thought were super, super cool.
So he went Vessel first, it's like every ember.
Yeah, then after that though he went for mage slayer which used to be really popular but now it's not crazy big
But it was amazing verse pudge and razor both of them have these like and even the gyro
Those are good amount of magic damage, and then he goes for crimson guard as his third item, which is less I
This may be one of what one of the first times there's ever been ever been with the crimson guard like ever
But it's so good verse the gyro flat cannon because it works on each of the individual shots the razor damage and pretty much
I think after he got this Crimson Guard they didn't really lose a single fight for the entirety of the game
Yeah, I mean it is a perfect read and it helps that Crimson's best on health, right?
So it's like it feels good on like most heroes now
So ember buying it into gyro compounding the fact that you have marci counters the gyro
You have a crimson guard counters the gyro even razors again countered by a crimson
So everything just goes we really want a crimson in this game and ember is the guy that can't buy it
And you know when you think about the draft and you praising the marci
It's kind of a bit of a you got to call the bluff right because for mirror
He doesn't really play off lane Marcy. There was a big time that off lane Marcy was a thing
He's only got three competitive games total on Marcy this being his third
So in the era of off lane Marcy, he never really jumped on that train on that trend
So maybe for heroic they actually thought it is just gonna be our carry whatever
But again to pick it up to play like that to to have that type of draft is just
Hard countering her. Yeah, and then that lane
I mean we're gonna continue harp on that in the Marcy versus gyro because that was
The way that boom was able to just own this game
Yeah, and this goes back to the point I was making earlier where it's like because that's a level the grave level one
They didn't have that full killer mentality
Successful killer mentality. Sorry. Let me refer to that. They had a killer mentality because they were diving towers
They were giving double kills. Yeah, they're just like the charity with double kill mentality was there
But I feel it's just it's the unfortunate reality of like having the wrong level one spell not being able to continuously pressure
Like you feel like you're on this timing because it's as soon as Marcy hits that BKB as soon as she hits like an egg through a
Basher Dazzle can't play the game Jiro can't play the game
So you really have to like put Marcy in a comeback position and that didn't really happen
The funniest thing I see on that step is pretty much Jiro was better at Marcy for every single stat at that point of the game
Like more damage, more last hits, more net worth, better KDA, but a lot of that kind of stems from the first, I want to say, seven minutes of the game, like right before the wisdom, and especially that wisdom shrine, gave them the big lead.
And then Marcy is like, okay, I'm down 3000 gold, but it doesn't matter. I'm going to jump in on the towers, the tier one tower top, tier two tower mid, and it starts all these really good fights for them.
And just the impact that the Marcy had in this game, it felt like the Jarl was kind of just a ghost. It was very useless.
Yeah, it was not good for Heroic, so they will be on the back foot for this series.
We will have game number two though, let's see if they can change their fate after a break.
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Here for PGL, we'll actually a season seven, and this is the first overall series of the playoffs, so we're fine.
Nobody's getting eliminated in this series, but Lower Bracket is on the horizon for one of these two teams,
and it is a Roic right now that is, uh, geeping into the abyss.
You're gonna go all that there one game down, so let's see how they're gonna be dealing with this.
It was a little bit draft-related, Tegov, is this first game.
So how do you want them to address game number two when it comes down to the draft?
Hmm
Honestly I
As much as it is draft related
I can see things where if they played slightly differently in the lane
There's maybe a world where they can like still win this game. It's not like it's like impossible, but
When there is a marci last pick maybe finding a different avenue
Maybe finding like the melee hero that isn't just accounted to it, but maybe they had like 30 seconds reserve time. Yeah, maybe don't
Waste reserve time earlier in the draft because if bb is going to do things like this
Yeah need your reserve time to think about the solutions because the solution that they had in there what like 30 seconds available
Just wasn't the correct one
But I think in a different world with the razors the podge's like they've had success with it
So don't shy away just make sure you actually get to the last pick and can breathe can sink because they're there were solutions to this problem
Jari just wasn't the correct one
I think the other big thing is the start of the draft two for me the so they give the shadow fiend which we've seen and
Thankfully, Shadowfiend and Shadowfiend are banned, so this point doesn't matter too much anymore.
But I think giving Shadowfiend Tree away and also Shadowfiend, like those three heroes in combination,
if they took Shadowfiend instead of the Pudge there, I think it's a bit better.
Because if you have Shadowfiend versus Tree versus Shadowfiend, it makes a bit more sense,
but I'm just kind of in this awkward position where I feel like Bepum just had almost the best support duo.
I know I don't like that support duo as much with the low damage hero, but they're just so strong, it doesn't matter too much.
And also another thing for Heroic is that in their final phase of bands, they band Axe Timber which is kind of screaming
We want to go for the high physical glass canon style hero and due to like the rise of Marcy
It could have been an indicator of like maybe they want the Marcy, right?
Because like both of these heroes on paper are good against it
So think about your bands think about how you want to set it up and going for a first pick logo
I just have I see her play logo. I am not I was just gonna say I don't know if I've seen this
Yeah, they haven't yeah, they're replaced since so far kind of in the pudge is what I talked about how it's a hero that farms these two camps in the back and
It kind of gets an first item eggs, which gives them team fight aoe damage. So if you look at it that way very similar heroes
Largo's just better. Yeah, but it very funny Largo does aoe damage plus heal plus BMS plus spell damage and for your whole team
It plus is a dislike has kind of a baby hook to with the lick
you're reaching brother the little bit of it everything adds up but who does that
up at the end of the day I think it is just a stronger version of Pudge in
there in terms of their play style but one of the best responses I've seen this
entire tournament so far is the Marcy Kerry I think it was Shiros who's the
first guy that was doing it very consistently and everything it does
matches up well with the Largo strong lane kill lane in fact which is really
good versus Largo buys a first-item Dom which they used to invade the Largo
camps like those are the two things I go needs to not get to show in the lane and farm those two camps so
the one thing that heroic have done is
Play lago once a month ago position 5. Okay, so the one all the information we have available is but of course basically
What gun is saying and how we've seen it in the tournament the core lago is like the s tier role for the era
Yes
I think falcon's tried to play in the four position a couple teams have dabbled it in the five position
Unless your carry or mid lane can really utilize croak
It needs to kind of naturally go to offline. I think support logo only makes sense if you've got queen of pains hostile meds
Razors like natural heroes that kind of like utilize that stuff that buff up, but again just to note heroic. They
They just haven't played it as much as other teams. I hear that has been incredibly popular throughout the
Of the international scene now to be fair. It has been banned majority of the time
So potentially they just haven't had the chance until now. There's always that
But and then maybe they have played it in the in scrims and we don't know that so
We'll see where they want to go with this one shuttle shaman picked as the support for but I just
Just really want to make sure for heroic sake. They respect the map movement in the early game, right?
I know I'm kind of repeating myself at this point, but I am getting tired watching BB supports
Be at the correct objective
Vroom, whatever, 20 seconds earlier than the other supports.
So by the time that it happens, they're already set up, they've already diverted the area,
they have their vision, and then you see the other team scrambling to get there.
And I think Heroic have identified that, because they're going for very nut-playing
supports' task, and Willow, they want to have that quick TP into a kill, they want to smoke
up together.
This is a killer combination that can just choke out early fights, and I really want to
see that.
And it's great against Marcy as well.
I think it's good that they picked their sub tier, but it's also bad because of the flex, the Largo, they commit it to the off lane and they're committing it into seeing the Marci, so I'm already worried for Herok's early game because, ooh, that is interesting.
The Iron Marci?
Yeah, that, not picked first time this tournament, and this is-
I'm upset by that by the way, just before we move on, I feel like Iron is, it's such an amping hero, why is Largo Iron not been a combination, right?
Shiro is playing Marci, so of course I am Marci, it's a pub classic.
There's still a couple heroes in the kind of the meta that I.O. would just break open.
Leshrac still is a viable mid laner, there could have been some I.O. Lesh games maybe played.
I don't know, I feel like I.O. maybe it should have been now.
Was it first pick just now?
Yep, it was first time in the tournament.
It was a bit late for at least one game.
I think as a support role, Largo is just a better hero than the I.O., which is why...
And you don't want too many buffs on the same team because then at some point you need someone to do something.
I'll go off lane and then I'll support.
Sure.
And then you support and then you, like, so the IO enables us to say a Jiren safe lane.
You twin gate, go to your lago and then you just giga amp him in the farm.
Yeah.
That's just like conceptually something that Kevin and I were talking about being kind of a fun combination, right?
But yeah, not double support.
Sure, sure.
Yeah, I was like, no, no, no, no.
Think the other thing that is I don't want to say scary but feels kind of interesting is the Marci's are going home the Dominator
So it kind of replaces this need for like
Your I oh yeah, it's like you already have a friend
Yeah, and I can only have one friend you have to pick one friend
It's a bodyguard right bodyguard protects one guy subarcy. No, it's gonna be the plus one. No, so I already got a dog
I can see a world where maybe he just ends up being able to skip it because of the I oh and they just play together
together and he goes, maybe Omelette would be the real place.
Yeah, something like that.
So the hum of the Dominator.
Or they go for a mid that can benefit from the IM instead.
They could go last pick Lushrack as a catcher here.
Just having multiple eye partners is always fun.
That's right.
This isn't the old days of like IO, gyro,
IO, alcohol, whatever it is, like you must get a try.
15,000, that was as quick as possible.
Broke the game, right?
And for Broke, they need to have some type of playmaker.
So I really, I respect the end of pickup.
now they just need to protect it, instantly banning the Viper, because then the problem
with the double support pick showing the Largo off lane, like we already mentioned, Largo
is so slow in the early game, right? You have sometimes licks can be annoying in lane, but
other than that it's just full farm, waiting for aggs, and even with the aggolins timing,
if you don't get kills, you're then playing for the sans kaya, then you're playing for
the BKB, so that's why I think the IOMR seat conceptually is just going to be really fun
to watch, because can it break the map quick enough? That Largo never gets online, but
That's going to be my kind of story for the game, like, is that what we're going to learn in regards to this matchup?
Well, there's a few games that the Ursa is still in, so I continue.
No, I was going to say, I think Ember is also good with the Largo because of the croak.
Yeah.
He's one of the Mifjords that does utilize it.
If the Largo is not having an amazing game, or really it's a shot.
And then to your dear point, yeah, I think Ursa is really good for Heroic because it gives them this...
It's kind of like the anti-Marcy hero.
They both are, it's a weird carry matchup because if Ursa has no ult, Marcy won't shot them.
But then if Ursa is able to ult and hit the Marci, he'll watch out for him.
So this is a very, very scary matchup, and it's good versus Centaur.
I might just still go.
So, probably he's going to get banned here?
So, streaming Ursa's band, then we're looking at potentially
Windranger for survival.
Yeah, but then you're Wind versus Centaur.
Yeah, Wind versus Centaur.
And also, you just don't really have...
It's a slower carry that you need more time.
I'm just trying to think like,
are you picking a carry for survival at the inevitable Marci timing,
Or are you going, you know what? I'm just gonna try and outscale you. I'm gonna let my other four heroes just
You know tank the fight. I think if this
Yuma is not so much of a player this but if there's a different team, I like beast master for her oaks draft a lot
You get a bkb piercing disable for the marsy
Uh, you can either lane with the tusk or the willow and be pretty strong
You have good. It's a good hero versus shatter shaman in the lane because you have the bores
Oh
in the pool. Okay. I think you just take it. You must have a phenomenal kind of performance
on Ursa consistently throughout the tournament so far. And it just looks pretty good. I don't
know what if there's a mid here that would hard counter the Ursa that's also good with
Siember. How does like Casper in these matchups, I'm just thinking like Charmin Iyer into
a DesoCas would get deleted. Or you just go back to the Tyrocopter.
I'm not a fan
Hmm respectfully
Hmm, I think picking the gyro into the center like centers generally considered a counterpicked the gyro in the lane and
I also think that gyro is
Considered counterpicked by the Marcy so I think the two core matchups are already like bad for the gyro
I understand it's like a fast hero and it's good with the tusk lane like they probably wanted something to land with the tusk
Yeah, as this like range carry win the lane kind of thing which I could see
But I also kind of feel like there was better option like Luna we saw yesterday it lost but it looked pretty good in the game
I think the
Facet though like I think it's moon shield is what it's called where you just take reduced damage could have been really good
Versa Marci all-ins. I
Don't know it just doesn't really give me a good
Vibe and I think that if GP K gets some
Hero that has like insanely high impact like he did in the last game
I think it should be getting ran over again
But is he going to do the impact through shutting down the lane?
Like, again, he tried playing Necrophos, he overplayed his hand and lost the game.
But is he going to go full send?
Tylong, you're not playing the lane.
You're not getting your vessel.
And now Largo has to farm and Mastercatch up.
Or is he going to play more?
You know what, I respect your ember.
I'll take like a casual voidsperia.
I'll jump in first, set up some relocates.
You know, like the same thing for like a Tiny, whatever.
Oh, yeah, Beastmaster is here.
Okay.
To be fair, like Beastmaster as well, it's like,
It's a hero that Thailand like absolutely dominated in South American qualifiers. Yeah, and then for some reason
he's like skipped across the pond and just
not played it and
I just wish I saw one
Pylon Beastmaster game at some point. It really is like one of his best heroes
But either way, BB take the the Beastmaster rounding up their lineup
It gives them that simple eye blinking gets done
I can relocate on top
So you're gonna have Matt play through the Beastmaster through the shaman and then of course I O
to bring in the absolute weapon of the Marcy.
Yeah, Heroic's lineup, it's got a lot of layering together.
I am just worried at what happens when Centaur has the Crimson,
so then Jira's not doing the damage.
It really feels like Tylong has to do everything in the early game
to make sure other people hit their timings to then help him again,
but I'm looking at Tylong, he needs to go absolute god mode in this early game.
early game. Yeah, my feeling of this draft is it's pretty simple. I think that
Betboom just has a better draft except I don't like the IO. So I think that if
a Rogue is gonna kind of get into this game it's gonna be because the IO is
gonna be kind of low impact in the early game fights and it's gonna end up
feeling like a 4v5 and so even if your draft is kind of inferior a 5v4 fight
it's still gonna be at your advantage. So I think if if the IO surprises me and
has impact I'm definitely Betboom because they're drafted in general just
better but yeah if it feels like there's outnumbered then Heroic can just potentially snowball the
game but it's still kind of hard. I will say it's Katomya Ayo which is it's one of his favorites.
He's very good. I think it's gonna look good. I feel like you're gonna be amping up a beast monster
with an axe or a marsy with right click so you've got multiple different styles of amp
and then sustainability so I'm I think it's gonna work well. Well let's hear some more words about
this draft from coach Kaffs, who's with Lex? Thank you so much, Shibir. Absolutely. We are here
with Kaffs. Kaffs, we were just with the panel. T Governor said that gyro pick was abysmal. Gunnar
said absolutely detestable. He said he personally feels anger towards this. Why did you pick gyro
copter? Because when you have Largo, it's all about like enabling the Largo and having a good
dirty game so he can guess his timings because the hero is broken. He's going to carry the game by
itself so we just need a stable early game and good lanes and gyro gives us that okay all right that
is the theory but isn't centaur a counter pick asset by 18 000 mmrt governor um if you isolate the
two heroes yes but it's not even that good you know the main thing i think is the pipetiming
that's annoying is the gyro but i think even the lane is super chill for the gyro and everything
And I think we're pretty good at this game.
Okay, great. What about Io?
Alright, Reddit says Io is a dead hero, no one ever picks it anymore.
Were you expecting to see a single Io here today?
No. I gotta be honest. No way.
Will you be able to beat that Io?
I think we have like, we have the Ember that's gonna buy a Vassal.
We have some really hard heroes for them to like go in.
Like, I think Dark Willow is historically very good against Io as well.
So, let's see how it goes, like, there's a long time we don't play against Ios, so it's hard to predict things.
Alright, well, we'll see if that I'll pick was worth considering, or if it's just a piece of shit, as we head into the game.
Ha ha ha! It's not a piece of shit! It's beautiful!
Nice high spirits there in confidence in the draft room cap, so you can't just isolate a hero, right?
It's all in conjunction, all is in unison together, so you can't just say this hero's good against this one,
You've got to take everything together nice little jigsaw puzzle all that is slot together. I love the contrast between slacks just looking for
Confident yes, but then he gets the approach of a brained man who actually thinks before he speaks to slacks
The measured analytical response that you would expect from a good coach very wise answers. Yes indeed
So looking back Dave already in trouble. Oh, is he he might go down here
Rocket run out. Rocket barrage from Yuma. King Jungle is trying to get in from that southern side.
A quick little chicken fingers there, burn into the foul play and dead! As far as blood is picked up by Yuma already.
This is what Caps was talking about. That Jarcopter is strong early. We were talking a little bit before we went live here that I think Ursa would have been a nice hero for Yuma right?
Alright give him something that he's been owning on and it's time to go for this jar of parents dead
But I think what cap said there makes sense
Versa would have been a bit of a liability and make the lanes, you know strong
But he would still need to farm that battle here blink whereas gyro. He doesn't have to wait and this game is gonna be about Largo
Yeah, all the eggs in the Largo basket really here and looking at the
Looking at the history is the first time whispers played it heroic had King jungles on it once
So we'll see what Whispers is able to do on this hero, because Kaft is saying, you just get him to his timings, he can carry the game on his own.
I think it's no secret how the hero functions by now. Every pro player has played so many games against it, even if you haven't played it yourself.
This hero is 100% Contest Rate. Ladies and gentlemen, every single game at this Valakia, we have had Largoy the Pictor banned.
This game is no different, and his win rate has been 68% so far. That's a very, very fantastic win rate for a 100% Contest Rate of the hero.
And as always, you know, just clarification, first pro-game, right?
Whisper for sure has been playing in pubs, so he's trying to try his hand at it for sure.
Some cool elements though in this draft, you've got this IO with the relocate, the stampede
from the center, the dispose and the rebound from Marcy, again, lots of maneuverability
from Bed Boom to get in and out of fights and disengage when it might get a bit messy
around that Largo, Gyro and Ember Spirit.
Yeah, definitely.
And like you said, it's not his first ever game on this, but he is Bronx tier on the
heroes who has not been spamming it by any means, whisper known for his expertise on
certain heroes here he has to show his ability to adapt.
A good flurry of spells up on Yuma, Char gets them a kill on the Gyro while King Jungles
try to punch back the bar room brawler not getting anything done while down a bottom
lane.
From Kuretich and Katomie they lose the IO but kill the Largo.
Now they get the more important kill, got a little bit too close to the tower there.
with the dangerous dispose and the right clicks.
Basically, Io and Marci just hurt like hell.
You get auto-attacked on this lane, the bodyguard,
it's just very hard to fight into because they keep healing so much
and at the same time having high reliable damage output.
It's very hard to keep track of what's going on when all three lanes had action happening.
Top lane deaths, bottom lane deaths,
and then GBK in the mid lane was denying a wall to ruin while grabbing his own.
So also some good advances there from the Beastmaster in that middle lane.
That's all for the observer to worry about, you know, that's good.
He gets to earn his paycheck as well here, you know, show your expertise.
It all kicks off at the same time, it's time to look at this middle lane.
Hacks up the chicken fingers and dead.
So, GP Kain's axis as he clicks them down.
Yeah, very nice, very nice reaction there.
And same thing with Praist in the previous game, that moves from one lane to another.
We see it again, similar story, you die on a side lane, you TP to another lane,
get a kill and then move back.
It was saved in the previous game as well, right, doing it, I think.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, died top, TP bottom. This time TP's meant to get the kill.
And a little bit of breathing room now. These things just settle a little bit. Get into that lading rhythm. Get your farm going.
Yuma pretty happy up at top 21 and 2 at the very top of the mountain, but this Lago and Ember Spirit are a little bit behind.
Those deaths definitely can hurt.
Yeah, the mid lane can snowball out of control really fast, GPK already racking up 10 denies
and if Ember is shoved away all the time, those boars can really stack up the denying
and it's hard for Ember when he's so level dependent.
He needs his ulti, he needs to get ahead preferably, now Beastmaster is going to get level 6 before
him in this game, that will be a very dangerous point of time.
Beastmaster on a second, Kyrgyz makes a jump on Whisper bottom,
the rebound disposed of damage coming through, this IO and Marci looks enough as Whisper pops the stick but followed up the staircase.
There was a cute trick by Whisper, he used to lick before the Marci landed to stop the stun from happening from the rebound.
If you reposition her during the airtime, but cute tricks are one thing, it's still not enough to beat an IO Marci lane, it's a classic.
I don't know why we don't see it more to be honest, I think it's still super busted,
But, uh, yeah, they're back showing their strength here.
We can listen in to that as well.
Let's go, Vitaly. We're going to kill you, cello.
There we go.
I'm not sure what Vitaly means in that context, though.
Yeah, I'm not pretty...
I just have word for their own strength.
Oh, yeah, that's safe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's saying...
Save will come and we'll mess them up, yeah.
Oh, Vitaly.
Vitality is his name, yeah.
I can't read.
That's hard for hard words.
Well, I only know players by their nicknames, right?
I never use first name basis with anyone.
I'm all nicknames.
But yeah.
I thought he was like, I'm going to buy a Vitality booster.
I'm going to kill them with it.
Oh yeah, no, it was a nice rotation there coming in by Saven.
He's again staying very flexible on the map, moving down bottom,
finds Teolikor.
And he's going to try and body block back after him.
He gets in front of the wheel.
She could maybe realm TP out here before they burst her.
Seven stick plus fairy fire.
It looks like that's going to be the trick to get back safely.
Even so, that means that she's not really in position.
She did TP tier two, so still trying to fight for those power runes,
but level 600 B smashed, level five on Ember.
This is what the panel was saying, getting ready around the six minute rune time,
and Cat Boon very good at bringing support early,
but Harureka responding with numbers this time.
They're onto GPK with a gyro rotation.
So heroic, making sure that that setup play around the rune doesn't work out for Betboom this time.
It worked, it was a lot of heroes committed, but they did get the kill on the Beastmaster.
Probably a very important kill too, as you and I keep harping on how important that agonim scepter on Beastmaster
is going to ramp up all his speed in the game.
Right, he has a similar arc to this lago, right, where item timing is very important,
the more he's shut down, the sadder his game gets.
Whisper currently, bottom of the last hits,
really having some struggles in that bottom lane
will rely heavily on his team to make space for him.
So we have to keep coming back
and looking at this gyrocopter to be very active.
Yeah, both teams making place for the wisdom run.
Largo is going to be left alone down bottom,
trying to leech whatever experience he can,
as the center is getting enclosed on,
just wrapping all around him.
I'll see if they want to help him.
Now he's going to run into the Ember, get searing chained up.
Willow and Gyro trying to catch up.
Helping Miss Lyle into prambles.
The boys have come in to help as well.
Some groups on the center lock him in place.
Heroic, turning up the heat.
Bottom lane though, whispers dead again.
Kiritich with the Unleashed just bypasses the tower, gets on the logo.
Whispers having no game at all.
The center dying is kind of bad for him, but it's his first death.
doesn't really hurt him that much he's close to level six but this Largo is
getting absolutely just devastated again shut down so hard and it's not even
just about the agonist timing but also about levels this hero needs levels so
they can farm frog stomp which is a funny name for an ability I realized is
is an ability that he needs to get maxed up so he can farm these facts that he
has in the jungle. Frogs spawned frog stomp? It's the deaths of whisper but it's
There's also this Tailwind Tower falling, meaning that access to the jungle is very easy here for Batboom,
with the Stampede and the Relocate in particular, so they can contest, steal stacks,
force Largo to inhabit some other area of the map,
so Whisper might actually have to go up to the northern jungle camps and not farm the double camps on this right hand side.
Yeah, if they can find it in them to make a move onto this jungle stacks here, it's gonna be massive.
They do not connect with the stun.
I'm not sure if they really want to take the risk of going that deep as there's a member on the enemy team.
So looks like he's gonna be fine on Largo for now. He will be able to keep his jungle stacks
GpK gonna get rewarded with a couple of bounty runes down at a bottom stream
Shield rune there for him as well
We have bounties for that rune
We really need to see Tylong activate with the two supports for Heroic basically
They need to be the ones creating space. This game is about Largo though
So the words of the coach right and Largo's timing normally is pre-minute 20 agonims
If you get a pre 20 agonims, you're pretty fine. Ideally you get it like in 16 17
That's really nice as long as he gets it before tormentor
I think they're gonna be super happy, but at this rate
They need to start making stuff happen or it's gonna be hard for him to get it in that timing because he needs lane form
And he can't get that if the game is just passive
Especially, like Gunnar said, this Gyaracopter into a couple of nasty matchups, and the
Beastmaster Roar, the Centaur is tanky and annoying, and the Malphite can get on top
of him, and the Armlet.
They're on him again.
With the Armlet phase boost, it annihilates the Frog.
That's what I'm saying, man.
If it's just a passive game, it's going to be rough for him.
And a Roar and Mid, GPK opens up on the Dark Willow, Shadow Realm falls a little bit of
time here, but to relocate in from here to just Katomi will catch up to feel the core.
They've got the drinking buddies to get back behind Tower, but the Axes, they're long enough.
Yeah, they're gonna get back with the Relocate of course.
This early Armlet on Marcy is really strong timing as well.
Normally we dominate her on Marcy quite often, but when you're playing with Io, you don't need to have that.
You already have a partner who's gonna run with you all the time.
You just need to get as strong as possible.
And Armlet is the most valuable item you can buy to get strong early game,
provided that you have the health sustain.
And that's where the Io will gut you covered.
That boom continually springing into action. A 4,000 net worth lead has emerged for them, just 10 minutes in.
Bottom lane, whisper. Level 5. Level 5.
Also, level 5, 10 minutes in, is an off lane, it's supreme pain!
Yeah, that's where you're unhappy being level 5 as a support. In fact, we have King Jungle already level 6,
support and Willow is closer to level 6.
Well, now that she's about the same distance level 6 as the Lord also.
And they're gonna make the most to abuse this timing as well.
We see the IOMarsy matchup, they keep running around, or the pairing.
If the map has already developed so much, I was looking at the clock thinking, oh yeah!
Torment of time, right now, it's 10 minutes in. They're playing up the top, in through the twin gate,
onto the gyro, Yuma, not a chance in hell of survival.
And it's back boom, they'll gather up to pressure this tier one tower.
They look so dominant, the way they're playing the field right now, the way they're activating,
they're activating from the mid lane. I think that's also a thing that stands out in this game,
the fact that mid lane could have been maybe more okay for the Ember, but GPK has been playing
really well this tournament overall. He's been looking pretty sharp and that just accelerates
everything because they dominated bottom lane. They did better mid than the Ember did and then
top lane was completely fine despite losing a hero early to the rocket barrage.
We might even need to see Jarocopter and Ember connect together and make some moves where
they bring two cores, outnumber and overpower, Beth Boom.
It's very hard to do that because you need shovelings all the time.
But at this rate, it feels like Beth Boom are just always bringing enough firepower,
and I think Heroic need to flip the script a bit, you know, surprise them.
Another game where Beth Boom have all the tools in the world to react across the map,
with global presence no matter what happens heroic gonna be outmanned and
outgunned if they can fight away from the Beastmaster they could take a 4v4
fight perhaps or if they gank the Beastmaster they could you know make it a
very easy situation if Centaur and Rostar are too far because we're already
already sitting there thinking like 5k lead heroic they're the ones who need
to hold on because I don't necessarily favor them going late game. I definitely favor
BedBoom's draft if we go to the very late stages of the game. We have B.C. Master with
a good lockdown, Io, Marci can scale like crazy, and Jarocopter is like a panel pointed
out pretty countered in this draft. They have a lot of good tools against them.
When Io, Super late game is always super funny, right? The level 25 talent when you
go to Marci on your team. You know, Io with Daedalus, Static.
Yeah, by a casual heart, you know, get tanky.
Yeah, you get to attack your ally's target.
Yeah, we'll see. We'll see how long the game is even going to last.
We have 40 seconds until the wisdom, and I don't think there's any intention from Betboom to give any wisdom away.
Largo. Largo's still this very vulnerable early game hero.
I mean, it's a mismatchup, right?
I always say this, I think Largo is literally the weakest laner in all of Doran.
Literally?
And literally, I like that, I like that there.
I will die on that hill, don't look lost here, he'll steal it.
And then he gets abused by this IOMarcy.
No, it has to be exploited and heroic, I mean, to try and deal with this IOMarcy, the fear
with the brambles here to blow them up.
Great kills from heroic to get Luma double.
GBK with the Roar, running back to deal with the other Corners, high ground of the Serpent
Awards and the Shards, blocking this gyro in actually as KJ tries to save his Yuma
buddy to get down to low ground with his big buddies, saves him up as Tylaan goes deep
on GBK. Hext up and shackled though under this Beastmaster, brought down.
The rest of them, they couldn't force their way up across these Rust Awards. The Rust
Awards and the Centaur, threatening to stun them as well if they congregated into the high
high ground there and Ember sadly is gonna fall but I like the move though they
did exactly what I was asking for you know get the Ember and Jiro involved
bring a lot of firepower and it worked out pretty well for them.
Good TP out from Whisper, gets away from that real okay.
We'll see Heroic's big move back here as they try and level the playing field with
an incredible move forward here. It started out really really nice those
words though, thwarted the aggression as Tylong went to keep going, look at save, just dropping
them down here, trapping the Jara at first, and sure he lives, he survives, it's very
impressive that they managed to keep the Jara alive actually, he was so close to going down.
Yeah, I was unsure at first if they wanted to go or run, because the Shards were blocking
off that path.
Back in live, the center did get caught on farming the dire top ancients, got brought
found by the three of them the ember and the supports and this is a pretty good
fighting trio ember tusk and willow have tons of damage you have a lot of
magic damage you have a lot of physical damage coming in it's just very painful
overall some that is going to be mitigated now with a BKB up on Marcy
not imagine GPK 600 gold away from his blink dagger as well could offer that
surprise effect. So Haruoka still got to keep their wits about them even though they have
pulled their way back into this game. Three charges on the spirit vessel for Tylaan also
very nice to have here if they want to flick the switch.
Now we see Haruoka starting to get a bit more confident getting up on the top part of the
map. I like that. Trying to take attention away from the Largo area. Allow him to get
to that Aghanim Scepter and it's not that disastrous, Gareth. Despite the way the game
is developed, despite Whisper having an awful game dying five times, been absolutely bullied
from the start to finish here. Well, it's not over yet, but he's 1,300 gold away. It's
not horrendous. He can get there perhaps not before 20 minutes, but still within reasonable
time. Yeah.
He's been given a lot of room.
Yuma going for this.
Manta style into the hurricane flight build.
More early game focused.
More stats, more ability to fight and brawl.
Still of course able to give that farm rate top of the net worth.
10k about to be hit by Gyro.
Yeah.
He knows that he doesn't have to be the big damage dealer.
He doesn't need to go for some all-in crystalist build.
And also, if he did do that, there's a lot of really good single target focus from Bethboom,
so he could easily be shot down.
But instead, he's going to be more of a space-creating carry, taking away a little bit of his responsibilities
for damage dealing, and leaning on the Ember and the Largo in particular.
We are entering the most important phase of the game as well, 17 minutes in.
Start considering Roshan with Beastmaster plus Shadow Shaman, ease of access there for
Bethboom.
You've got to keep eyes on the pit and of course tormenter after that
I'm a GP K getting a very quick take down on the dark willow save also going deep about serpent wards
But doesn't quite see humor's retreat. That was a good mantel style
Manta kept him safe hexed an illusion instead of the real one
Not gonna catch and kill him there
They will get the view order go into the roach pit though and doesn't look like heroic are gonna put him in defense
So the agonism some beasts this will fall fast
This has also been very very typical of this tournament. A lot of teams emphasize getting the early Roche, the 4-man and 20-man because they know it guarantees the tournament.
So they draft in ways that are going to get that Roche. That's why Beastmaster and Ursa are so popular for instance.
Similar to the TA as well. All these objective securing heroes are very good.
And then like Gunnar was saying, right, you take this Roshan when it's on your side of the map, okay, that's DioSide, but in effect, DioSide, map-wise, Roshan, is right inside actual in execution Roshan.
It's easy to access, easy to get there with your Outpost.
The reality of it is whoever has their Outpost closest to the Roche pits, that's their Roche. You know, you can TP in.
We've even heard it from some of the listens in we got earlier with 33 making the call that guys
We can we can take Roche when it's top because they have the TP spot
Yes, so now they start that cycle I can look into the future for that Roche and to be on their side again
They are gonna bail out
There's a relocate coming to Shadow Sharpen one of the perfect heroes to set up for this stampede relocate play
The blow up king jungles
At least Yuma makes it out alive, he's the important one. You lose your support, you know.
There are no tears for him, it's fine. Yuma will just run away and farm some general BK up top.
Aroic has three heroes in the vicinity.
Quick Hex.
And that's the Hex. Do we roar this one up as well?
Don't need two of the shackles.
No need, then he will keep it ready for our next fight.
I do like the Shadasharman IO support duo. It's one of the old classics.
We used to see a lot of Bane IO, Shadowsham and IO, because you have these long duration
disables that allows you to play forward aggressively on the enemy side of the map with
a smoke gank or a little weasley move into jungle and then relocate on top of you.
I think they've drafted really well.
I do really, really want to praise Beth Boom and how they've built this lineup.
Not only is it countering and exposing the weakness of Largo, as we might see it jump
onto the Marci bottom.
Okay, it's going to be fine.
But yeah, the fact that they have four heroes, all with disables, is making up for the one weakness that Whisper has.
Like, IO does not bring any stuns.
So, they make sure every single other hero can make up for that weakness.
Now of course, Whisper does have his Agni-Encepter, he also is level 12.
So, we could see a tempo switch where Heroic wants to start going for the 5 man teamfights.
Obviously, a little bit dangerous to do so in the ages.
But not impossible
These wards on the right-hand side very useful thought that for them to play into
That's some good deep vision
Planted that without showing themselves as well
I think both teams are very well aware where the other team is playing right now though
My favorite mini game is watching the purple dot on the map. Yeah, the hell creep
like Nieros micro ah the shard golems funny little fellas yeah I found some
pebbles of people this way legs yeah that's what they're workers workers for
worker three that's what they're yeah I get a copyright in French no impressions
cover. We don't have any butchers. We're fine.
So we're low gonna shut the realm and dip away from the initiation attempt.
GPK make sure we dodge his spells, flicks back in, rules and kills, deal the core.
Yeah, maybe he held his TP for a little bit too long. I don't know if he didn't
have it at first there. Had it towards the end, but see an attempt mid.
Pretty tanky, Samtara. Relo is available. Yeah, pipe 16-1 charges as well.
And I relocate back in towards them with a stampede forward.
Human will try and push back and make space, Io getting blasted, but heals back to full, Katza and Omi keeps himself top job.
In the back, Shadow Showman trying to go for the shackles, but they relocate already out of there, so save left to be sacrificed to Heroic
as they punch back with a buyback out of Willow.
And buyback spent, but they do have the tempo now, using the Largo.
If Largo doesn't get bursted, they do have a lot of sustainability throughout the fight.
And damage output isn't even bad from them.
Sure, they're down 9000 gold, but their fighting power is not to be underestimated.
I think in particular, Beth Boombl want to wait up and get that Crimson Guard over on the Centaur before they take too many fights.
300 gold away.
Good TP's.
Oh look.
Tuck behind the trees. That looked like an incredible smoke move there from heroic to sweep down to Boltsom.
Yeah, I didn't even see them, but he doesn't have a blink on Tusk anyway, he's going for a solar crest build, so wouldn't be able to catch them in time anyway.
Still out on the map getting objectives, you're 10k behind, but the fact is Gyrocopter and Ember Spirit are quite good with this early game tempo, we're able to get out here and get the job done.
Yeah, our group is 5.
Good pressing forward, making sure to make moves at the same time, that boom don't like the shift here where they're starting to fall on the back foot, so they want to go and take a team fight.
Keratich still haven't used his BKB yet. It's a 9-seconder.
Ooh, can they catch them on the TP out blink from Beast Baster?
Yeah, the jammed TPK has the roar on Tylong!
Oh no.
The best targets were found with a chain stuns at Amiero, they've got him.
It's so hard to play Ember as well against all these disables,
so you get caught by one guy and it's like, yeah, I'm gonna die, guys.
Someone didn't hold the door open for him.
Who do you suck when you're mid laners, the last one to press the gate?
You know, it's unfortunate.
Slam shot on his fingers.
I do like the camera luring when something dies, it's just, yep.
No!
That quick smack!
No, no, not again.
Why Nemesis?
The dangerous quicksand.
The other cork.
What is it again?
You meant to stand very still and light line it back with something?
I think you're supposed to wriggle a lot and sink slowly.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Keep moving.
do the doggie paddle
yeah just swim
just swim
I bet it would be a good work out for swimming though
if you swim in quicksand you could swim anywhere you know
like with the resistance band
resistance band
save, gonna get jumped here
dumps the serpent walls down but he's a goner
I think that was what Phelps did
that's why he was so dominant
oh yeah? yeah
just swimming in quicksand
swimming in treacle
Did you know that water is 800 times more dense than air?
I did not know that.
You do now.
Thank you so much.
I will not remember that information.
Quicksand is probably 800 times more dense than water.
Maybe more even.
How many grains of sand are there in a quicksand?
That really depends, doesn't it?
No.
Whispers Largo, is that a quiet one?
Two, five and one, he's caught up.
Got himself a Zangnamsep, got the Kaia, so we're all hitting this Largo peak in that trajectory.
Yep, he's getting real strong, but I think that boom, while they want to fight, they're also respecting Largo, right?
They're not going for these solo pick-offs that we saw them go for before.
They're not sending in just two heroes and doing a relocate.
They're making sure that if they fight, it's going to be everybody, so they have the tools to burst the Largo if need be.
I think that's very instructional as well.
If you underestimate the lago in teamfights, it can just backfire really hard for you.
The past few minutes have been a very good passage of play for Heroic.
This lead hasn't really developed from Pet Boom.
They were feeling incredibly good about the way this momentum was building.
Got up to a nice head of steam.
Got that one of their BKBs ready as well, now Jarocop has his.
Ever get stunned once?
Link stomp, chain stuns from Marcy and Shadow Sharman.
Drinking bodies though, gets him to high ground as the turn comes in.
GPK rolls the gyro, focus on Kiritich, trying to deal with him, but they turn on the Ember.
Want to blow up Tylong and that's it, he's dead for 50.
Moves back in though, Yumo with Tars can't get on Kiritich because he rebounds over.
Chasing forward on Miero now as Whisper tries to give the Rhapsody going, but heroic, they've run out of spells.
And Miro has another round, goes back in, falls to Snowball as GBK battles into Yuma.
They pull back the Ember Spirit, and save in the midst of things, he's gonna get blown up as Heroic hold that tight defensive line.
GBK in trouble now as well, dived the Barber, saved!
Ooh!
The real OK gets him back to base.
That was very very close. He is gonna fall of course on the IO, he will go back, the hero.
I don't know what he said.
Bye!
I like that Katalve has some humor about it.
Well, that was a very, very good fight for Heroic.
The fact that they buy back into it as well, I think was worth it.
Right?
Tylong.
Also Tylong taking a page out of GDK's playbook, going for this Crimson Guard.
Adding a lot of survivability.
Never seen Crimson Guard in Ember at all, and then we get it two times in a series.
Yeah, twice today.
And Gyro also, even into some of these hard hero matchups, he's kind of difficult to focus with his BKB Manta Pike build, lots of disengage built into his items.
And of course they did turn and focus the Ember Spirit in that fight as well, but we might need to start seeing GPK say, no, I have to roar this Gyro, he's dishing out so much damage.
He is doing quite a bit of damage, I think they can sustain it for a little bit using the Crimson Guard on the center.
but the more important thing I think is that Ember needs to get some form of
dispel for himself or some form of protection. There's Agadamceptor on the
Marcy so she can keep silencing just by punching and all these stuns from the
auto attacks as well. I know he has the Shiva skewed out of an Ember and that's
the normal item progression but I just don't know if you get to play the game
if you don't have a BKB here. I think he might just get gone on and burst at all
I have to
There there's the attempt from tusk to save him with snowballs and so on but tusk is also without blink dagger keep in mind
So his saves are not that reliable
15 seconds till Roche heroic trying to hold that top jungle
You know on the high ground the rest of them sat behind him as bet boom approach with a five-man move
All the way in from that Northwest angle
tanky illusion takes a few auto attacks to bring it up second road chance we
spooled now I do like the choice to go Revenant
brooch on the Marseille get a bit of magic damage mixed in obviously there's a
ton of armor on the side of the dire heroes the Shiva's Crimson Guard build
on amber the Largo gets a ton of armor with his ulti smoke up coming in
heroic want to go up and around seems to be the call from the players not much
left on this smoke I'll get the move into D ward
not prepping for this Roshan standoff but that boom they don't want to get stuck
just watching they will they will see the IO behind and to hear the roar so they
I have a pretty good idea of where everyone is.
Serpent Wars and Andalish though.
That's not big for me.
Tylong is down for the two-man chains, terrorized there as well, Rochan drops low,
GPK with a roll, the snowball savers there, Rochan falls, Kiritich ages,
Tylong in trouble, has the remnant out, Miro and Kiritich still holding their ground
inside the pit around the surface walls of GPK, gets focused down,
very quickly dispatched with by Whisper.
I need to keep chasing now, this is where their lineup is excelling so much,
you cannot run away that easily from Elardo.
Keep healing up, chasing.
That was some weird start to the fight actually, really good vision for Heroic.
They get the catch, you know, throwing in the ember-searing chains and the terrorize was beautiful, connecting.
But they looked really odd, I think he pushed people to his side with a roar.
Multiple people went sliding towards the ocean.
Yeah, the very least...
It's Carrot backfired.
Yeah, Carrot still gets to get the Aegis and keep it.
Oh.
And as I say that, Heroics are on him, rebound over onto a save to get some distance, but the dive is coming!
Heroics are on this Marci by the Tier 2 Tower.
Link stomped from Miero, two men caught up inside, a save goes to the shackles of the Tylon.
And Kiritich to Miero trying to fight into this Ember Spirit with a hex, into the damage that got the kill on him!
90 seconds and this Marci's annihilating Whisper with a double kill up, Kiritich unloads on them!
The snowball only delays the inevitable light humor.
The chain stuns, he's piking to low ground, but the hex into Mero's stomp if that can get a
move forward with the shackles there and absolutely care. Tricking but he's not enough
and Heroic get annihilated. Wow, Heroic gets split up too much there.
Controlled for so long there, Rasta amazing at locking down one hero, IEO keeping the Rasta
alive as well against the damage of the Gyaracopter. What once looked so good there for Heroic,
They over-commit to what looked like an easy kill, that Marci had no BKB, you kill her once with A, just try and focus her again, but
they get jumped by the Centaur and everything turns around.
You can see where this all went wrong, they got really destroyed to the area.
Yeah, some people were diving the tier 2 and some people stuck around after the Centaur jump, right now they start splitting up.
You must use the Shatter Shaman, you gotta come back on the Curitich and that's when these two Betboom Calls just destroy him.
I think, yeah, they needed to have Jarocopter with them still.
Obviously if they don't go on the Shamshaman, he's got to be a nuisance and they're thorned inside about everyone.
But just an over-commitment perhaps going on the edges in the first place.
Back in Lightwave, push onto the high-run tower already dropping. Willow will get caught.
Barrett's falling. Teal the core, has to back up to his tier 4s.
As they lose the melee and Bethboom extract.
That was a costly mistake then. They actually immediately get something more, get the racks
for it.
This middle lane, this is going to be a very low HP, not even that. The range racks falls
for the catapult auto attack.
And GPK just picked up a double damage rune. So next fight, could be a big one.
Oh, we have a bit of a listen in, can hear a save here.
That's funny, that was during the top fight of course, they were very very happy about
the turnaround.
Did I watch? I didn't expect that kind of tone.
It's great.
Yeah, I mean, it's so funny that, you know, sometimes you meet these pro players at events,
you talk to them and they seem very, you know, very relaxed, very down to earth.
But yeah, seem very, you know, very reserved perhaps even.
But when they are playing Dota at pro level, doing what they're passionate about, you know,
the spirits come out in both ways as well.
can be upsetting, but right there we had a very happy save.
There's one of the players talking about that sportsmanship anger, right, when Collapsus
is talking about Laurel.
Yes, he gets upset, yes he gets angry, but all in a very professional sportsman-like
manner.
Yeah.
I think it's not necessarily a bad sign that a player can be upset about something in Dota.
It's just about how you conduct it, right?
How you approach the problem and the solutions.
For certain.
choices by the way coming in. Katolmy is going for a BKB on the IO. We talked about different
possibilities for him. I think he's recognizing there's a lot of control, right? Searing chains,
the Largo stuff, Willow with all her stuff. So he wants to be able to stay alive and pair up
with the Marcy. He does not want to disconnect from his intended partner here in the fights.
So BKB will allow him to just run together with the Marcy and enable her.
And you know normally we might see something like glimmer or some stuff like that
I don't think it would have helped him
I don't think it would have saved him really but he could be might be enough to to give Marcia time to burst people
And
Agadamceptor being worked on by the center 1500 gold away
He'll be able to pick up someone so the saves are really layering up a little bit with the relocate outs the possible
pick up from the cart. At the same time we see a massive massive difference in
the net worth on the supports in particular. Only 5k gold on the tusk
compared to the 12,000 Rasta. Rasta is huge. He's got a BKB by the way. He has a
BKB Blink Ethel and so he can just catch someone and that might be the
end of that person unless they tusk punch to break the shackles through
BKB. I mean we could see that situation right where save says I'll I'll get the
gyro and lock him down for you know whatever 10 seconds and you the rest of
you guys roar and kill the ember or vice versa. Yeah it's really quite open
since they have so many disables they can go on whatever they want they would
go. They're pretty easy it's hard to acquisition there for that boom. Yeah
because core-wise they're keeping up decently on the side at least Jericho
being the leader of the pack and Largo isn't too far behind the ember though.
Perhaps the bigger story is almost about to be overtaken by the Rasta. 13,000
net worth is six and a half K behind the Largo. This is his own teammate, of course.
It's been a rough one for Tylong. I think the Crimson Guard that he, you know, took
a page out of GPK's book in the previous game, the reason that Crimson Guard worked so well
there was because they were winning hard and they won more because of it.
That's cool, like your head.
Yeah, here, Heroic weren't really winning when he was purchasing this.
Yeah, he probably wishes he had Agam Scepter or this Chivas Guard, which is now working
on nevertheless heroic still gonna play tight together this is the move from
bed boom wanting to make something happen with the bkb disconnect from
heroic they're just realizing what's happening all TP out to safety at least
a minute to go to next Roshan though Laurel by the way has an a on this for
himself so against all these changed on some bursts the combo breaker aptly
named, A on disc, very good ability on it.
Now Herok are having to play a little bit tighter on the map since they don't have the benefit of being able to relocate in.
So we do see them moving as a blob and that typically lowers your farm rate since you're all covering the same area.
Meanwhile we see Betboom a little bit more spread most of the time.
But with the refresher on the Beastmaster and this fresh BKB on the Rasta as well, they definitely want to fight.
Herok playing like their family from Lilo and Stitch. Ohana means family. Family means no one gets left behind.
No one is left behind except for when I'm running away
I remember you are not looking back
They remade it in the live-action one and the spoiler alert the sister goes off to university or something. It's just goodbye
Just leave them. I'm much for a lot for a harder now
It's true. Actually. Yeah
Well, Garret's itch. Time's not tough, Garret.
They are. I mean, education is important, that's be real.
Sometimes you gotta be a bit selfish.
Think about the perspective, think about things in the long run.
Screw family, Garret.
No, it's all about doing it for the family.
Get a good job, get some money, come back and provide for everybody.
Alright.
I'm waiting for Rocha now. Just under two minutes for it to come back up.
Back up, Bepoom, ready to spring into action here, watching these three heroes, under vision.
They know if they see someone they die, but it's a gyro illusion that's going to come out and scout first up.
It's pretty funny seeing two teams sitting under their own vision. It's like, come at me, bro, come at me.
Swing first. Look at them. They're both sitting on their own wards.
Like, yeah, yeah, fight this, fight this. You see two dogs, you know, on one side each of the fence.
This is what's happening right now. Barking through the chains.
Yeah, swing, dude, swing!
They're both leashed up to a pole and ducked into the ground.
But you remove the fence and they're like, oh, no, sorry, sorry, I...
No, no.
I didn't mean to.
All bark, no bark so far.
I do scan the roach pit. They know that they're in the area.
Yeah, that boom have the more comfortable spot to hold since they are controlling the roach spawn.
But in 30 seconds, just 20 seconds now, it's gonna move bottom and both teams will have to shift.
They have held really good positions here, but now it's about repositioning. We see the smoke coming out from heroic
They are gonna be a little bit faster down there
Trying to get off. Where are they going?
So they're gonna go set up bottom jungle or are they wrapping around to try and fight?
Yeah, the ancient power room could also be big. This is from bottom top. What is it in its arcane for Thailand?
That's a good one
Not a bad room to get and that boom not smoked
there just
I'm just wandering through here, Roar.
15 seconds to go to Roachan's spawns.
And Kiritich...is wide open.
Whisper sees Miero. Smoke breaks on him.
Well, poke onto the creep there, as...it looks like Miero will scout them out.
Dominator creep reveals, but they're holding a very good high ground.
Roach is up.
Heroic know it, and honestly, I bet we know it too. It basically had to spawn by now.
But now it's role reversal. Heroic, the ones in the better position in terms of knowing and taking Roshan.
Well, that boom, they're the ones who have to smoke and find the avenue of attack.
Tylong, perfect spot. Breaks the smoke.
Although onto the high ground, where's the saves? Anyone to buy time for Tylong? No, he's dead!
70 seconds with no amber spirit.
Whisper tried to lick him, but there was no tusk nearby.
That was a bit greedy. He saw them, he slide-affisted, but then he didn't press the remnant to jump away?
way he just got too greedy on the ember it's not really about whether someone
saved him. Tylong just messed up a bit.
Nice. Now they're taking their time trying to establish map control first in
the midway there's gonna shove in naturally but they're pushing out the
bottom lane. Establish control. Roshan, bellows. Heroic smokes. Another smoke. Steps forward.
So it's not going to be a free Roshan, this does mean that Ember gets to respawn. Roshan
actually is dropping pretty low. Taking a lot of damage from the Largo song. And stuck
in the igloo. A little trapped on the staircase there. Some more frogs and brambles into the pit.
A real swampy area. He keeps feeling damage to Roche, making him run up again. Nice play by
Whisper. Keeping tabs on him, but now Serpent Walks are committed. Marcia is in the pit.
Shards and terrorize with a jump into the back. Nero starts it off. Whisper gets the ages. Kill
a fighter dire. Kordam comes in and Bedboom scrambling, scattering. Mero's gonna try carton
run, stampeding to kill Theolicoar. Kiritich runs to the eastern side while the Ember spirit
force Gbk back. You might tie long too much, stop! Oh, Kiritich can open up! Ember supply
kills the Ember! Oh, this disaster's for heroic! He camps the Tannik and just gets bursted. And
Whisper, the amphibian raptor that he tried, got the Aegis, makes sure Roshan died for now
That was quite a landslide! No escape from reality, dies and there's no buyback on Ember or Gyro!
That was very well coordinated. At the same time as the Marcy jumps in and focuses on bursting key targets, you had Beastmaster going on the backline.
That's why they tip him as well, because he went on the backline, got the Tusk, prevented him from saving anybody.
Oh, so easy come, easy go for this lago. You look so good taking the Roshan, but then with no teammates left, nothing to do.
Yeah, unfortunately for him, they just can't really outheal the amount of damage that Marcy does.
Even if she doesn't have a glass cannon build, Marcy does burst people insanely fast with her ulti.
What a display do you've done.
I bet they're now going to sweep through the base.
They've taken mid already, straight through bot, into top.
I think they just have to accept that top is going to fall.
They are going to respawn on Jara before they can finish up the throne at least.
So just accept this, and then try and play against megas.
Game might not just be over yet
He's looking very very desperate, but they have one more fight in them his serpent water tier 4 gyro logo they have buyback
Marcy on the tier 4 towers though with Miero there and just front-lining forcing a clip
He's trying to get the rapier look at all the couriers flying over the train to the creating a diversion scramble the jets
Get the squadron out there, do what you can, because your tier 4s are falling.
Raker's coming for the stars, but it's sniped!
GPK stops it in his tracks.
Heroic, few chances left now, as their throne is exposed.
They link back GPK.
Beastmaster holding onto his life, but still gonna die.
Has Byback available.
Interesting, he didn't want a BKB there.
A jump up from Heroic.
Finds Curetich now, as the Marci gets blown up.
blow now okay so even without the right here they find the kills like you mentioned he
had big be I don't know if he if you want to hold it for some reason if he expected
someone to maybe relocate or something either way the game is not over heroic they hold
on for now that's mean that in two minutes time Yuma will get a relic on his career
being delivered to him but he's just gonna re buy Daedalus until then I guess or at least
Crystal is
Yeah, just wait guys, please one minute 30
I just got a hold does put a bit of stress over on that boom to maybe want to end before that rapier comes around
No, heroic style hasn't come yet
Still in it whisper with 5.4 K gold large part of his net worth looks like he's thinking about spending it on a refresher
orb as well
I don't know, I really really like this champion.
Oh yeah, I mean, who's having fun with this one? I mean, that's one of the best ones, right?
Few chances left for Heroic.
And Whisper is out on the map. They've got some aggressive ward coverage.
They're shoving out all the lanes. They're dealing with the med creeps that are coming towards their base.
Betboom just a matter of time now until everyone's alive.
Yeah, they're getting everything they can, picking up some lotuses, getting map control,
farming up some ancient screeps, just building whatever lead they can, but they know that
that boom are going to want to, again, strike straight at their base.
30 seconds.
I have another rapier being queued up, by the way, Marcy.
It doesn't feel like she has enough damage anymore.
I think he's going to sell armlet right now.
Thinking about it.
He's hogging it on an arc.
Use it one more time.
last use of just just in a for all time sake and then it's gonna be full
rapier my dear friend you've been with me since what minute 8 I love you but
goodbye retaliate aura oh yeah that's big that is actually really strong to
be cake starts onto the front in general here but doesn't get the snowball
save really and might just die himself the throne has been opened up on
Kiritich, he's gone there with a unique beat, trying to finish the building, Katom is the drop though,
and Arrow's in the cart, looking to finish the throne and ending the game!
Well it has come in, put the Marcy in the back seat, say goodbye Buildings, game is over,
and Heroic, no chance to fight back.
That was pretty clean actually, they relocate in and then just barely in time put her in the cart
with the rapier to keep punching, they saw a chance to end it and they take it.
Well, cool attempts from Heroic with their own identity in their drafts, but supreme play from Betboom.
Yeah, those identities are fun and all, but they're more fun when they actually work,
but it was Betboom that is a victorious hero, a 2-0 over Heroic, and I would say both games doing it
in quite a dominant fashion, though.
Yeah, I think at least this game, there were some glimpses of hope for Heroic, but
what, 80% of the series, 90% of the series, it was just all the way Betboom.
It's so rough for, I think, for Heroic here, because after how bad the Lago lane went,
moments like this, you could see like, okay, you know what, Heroic can get back into this game,
but I feel like over extension was going to be like a theme for Heroic, okay?
They get one kill, but then it's like, you know what, we're stronger. No, you're not, no, no, no,
calm down, but they just kept going, they kept going, and of course here,
save stepped up with some beautiful players, Keratich had the Aegis,
and then later on in the game, like some 40-minute fight, you know, they get the Whisp and Aegis
still. Then they got the hang of it, double-slumped by a centaur. It's like, when Heroic had moments,
they kind of ran away. And here, this is the clip that I'm mentioning, right? Like,
Deer-titch jumps into pit with certain wards. He didn't actually have a slot available.
Instead, he goes through the refresher, takes the, uh, doesn't get the Aegis, sorry.
And it's like, again, here, Little Moats, maybe Heroic could have got into the game, but,
yeah, unfortunately, BB, they are just way too methodical with their play.
And the Io working out very well. I feel like Katoomi proving point that he is a great Io player
I am Marci, I am Beastmaster, like in modern day Dota you couldn't ask for like better partnerships outside of maybe like a Leshrac or something, right?
Like they are so aggressive, providing both magic and physical damage depending on how you want to amp it up, so yeah, it's very, very good draft and play from BB.
Yeah, frustration for Heroic that thought they had a good thing going with the Largo there as the first pick.
the first pick and we talked after the draft was done how we if Iroq was going to do well I would
have to see a lot coming out from Thailand's Ember Spirit Gunner. How do you feel the mid lane
went and how do you feel they did? I think the mid lane matchup is already bad for Ember.
Like Beast should be winning that and then also he's like trying to win the lane by
you kill the boars. Like if you can kill the boars you can actually like get ahead next to
either a lot. As we dive the tower then the Shaman TP is mid, kills the Ember, it kind of sets up
of GPK to have such like a stellar game and I think after that it was just kind of the struggle
bus for Tylong. He never really found connections to just like take anything out. I mean Karatich
also right with the Akadim's early pick up or as I said Armlet B could be agged. Like multiple
times Karatich would jump into the fight, get a silence onto the ember or get like a like pick
me up jump or something like that. There'd always be a little something getting thrown in and he
was catching Tylong. So you know Karatich of course MVP 13, 2 and 6 but yeah he had Tylong's number
I don't know what to say, forcing, but he bought the Crimson as well on Tylong.
Is that reactionary based on the last game? Is that actually an identity on Ember?
I think it was not as good a pick up this game as it was last. I think Marcy does so much damage
with the Crimson's mediocre. And it would have been better if he went like Shiva's,
because there's so much health from the mech on the IO, just IO in general on the Marcy.
Are we at the point where if you want to pick up Largo first pick,
you got banana at the Marcy or is it not yet there?
I think
You can put the Largo's to support
I think there was options that they could have kind of gone through like Beastmaster really good versus Marcy
Razor also as a carry. I think it's good versus Marcy. Maybe not as much as a mid
I just think that you can't pick the Largo and ignore the Marcy, which is kind of what's happening
It's also picking Largo and then double-picking support and allowing for the pressure to get thrown into their face, right?
Like Largo is a hero that if you don't understand its timings and you can concede early map everything can fall apart
So I think that's why they trusted the gyrocopter the task of willow because they thought these four heroes will make the map feel
Open but because of how bad the lane went
it doesn't matter if Jerry's like holding his ground if ember's holding his ground because you know your lago's just lost his
Tower by like minute eight or whatever it was. So yeah, I feel like that's too serious
You've seen from bedroom in a row where they have been just absolutely
Popping off and of course the man of the match was Kierkech in this one and he is standing by with slacks for a win
interview
Man of the match. Yes, that is what we are calling you here today. Welcome Kira Dishko, incredible game there
You got to be feeling pretty good after that one. Yeah, I'm very happy. All right. Good. Good. Well, what's up with today?
I mean, I kind of thought Neroik was gonna give you guys a little bit more of a fight there
Is that what you were expecting? It seemed pretty easy from where I was sitting. Yeah, we're just ready to fight
There's heroic, you know, they can play a pure game like crazy, wanna fight, so we're ready to fight
All right, I could tell that for sure and incredible Marcy games
You ever get bored of playing Marcy seems like a really fun hero. Yeah, it's our hide-and-secret strat
Not secret anymore. I mean, he'll never get it again. How's it feel to never see Marcy again? I like the hero
Marcy is a good hero, but he can play only with his eye or in free game
Okay, so you have to lie here. All right, other teams are watching us. So you have to say Marcy is a bad hero
I hate playing it. Marcy is the best hero in the world. You can pick
Goddamn, alright, alright. Now, that was a beautiful performance, but I do have to ask, what happened to that Roche pit?
Okay, you're letting that frog walk in there, take your ages, walk me through that. What happened?
Just in last fight in 3rd Roche, there was some click, oh, refresher, not added, said, I press Bikki B'Ulti, click refresher.
Oh, banner, good banner, not added, no chase, a bit in luck, but we know if they over dive, without spells, Bikki B'Ulti can die easily.
so we just baited. Absolutely, I didn't really matter too much but I do have to
ask behind every amazing carry there are supports of course and doing nerd
support stuff in the back. You had a lot of tips for your Shadow Shaman but a lot
of people were surprised by the Wisp. Who do you think was the MVP? Who was the
best support out of the two? Miero. Okay, okay. If I'm gonna die, I think I'll take the right
I think we no chance to win in our all in no chance. Come on. Yeah, you just get to it
But it's impossible to hit him. Okay. I didn't realize it was such a high stress moment there
I thought even if you died, we just do this for fun. It's very risky, but
Who care no Gleef just let's go. You know, we don't have Gleef
GP K just make space for us and we're allowed. All right. All right. So how do you do something like that?
How do you go? All right guys, let's just go all in. It's either we win here
We don't who's making that call just
GPK me
Why because we go every day we are going to gym with GPK me me arrow
We have good muscles. Oh shit. Oh shit. Oh, baby. All right. Well, I can tell just go in
It's the muscle. It's the gym. It's the boy here. Thank you for your time. Give me a big one. Oh
God damn over back to you
you. Thank you very much. I
will say that when Terry gets
asked about who's your favorite
support this game, and he goes
for the offlaner as a support
player. He has a support player.
Come on. Instead is he is right.
Miru supported him when it is
true if he doesn't get him in
the car. The hero gets to that
point. How did you know I know
by himself as the strong off
No support help 1v1. You have the off laner gets abandoned for a story. It's exhortations
Yeah, to be fair if that was GP K saying that I would have screamed if GP K had the audacity to not name a support
You can test every room from out of bed like what the hell, but what if he's making the calls?
He's GP case the one who's like, no, I'm made
Are they supporting him?
But or is he supporting the supports in all the times that I call vouchers for another call
I will give him the past this one time because actually was valid. All right
It was very valid. It was very valid. It was very strong bedroom move forward in the upper bracket guaranteed top six here at PJ
Well, I hear season seven. He wrote is not out there just in the lower bracket
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here for Team Spirit versus
Vici Gaming upper bracket.
Winner is top six loser gets
lower bracket and I believe
heroic as their opponent. So
yeah, you do want to win here.
Let's see what's going to
happen here. Teaguff and
Gunner and we're going to
focus our attention on Team
Spirit first because they're
the team gunner that went
of them. Yeah they had a nice little break that was probably just eight hours of scrims a day and
the rest are all pubs but they've been looking good. I kind of missed seeing them the last
last few days to be perfectly honest but I'm excited to see them again. Yeah I think everybody
is excited to see Team Spirit again they play some good data. Yeah I mean their form's been
up and down right it's like when you look at previous tournaments it's like five six six six
then it's like second seconds like oh are they back and then suddenly they're going down to
7th, 10th and like it's but they're playing with standing of course of course I'm as an organ general the ups the downs the
Lefts the right spot. I feel right now how they're playing in the group stage
You can feel like the aura of the comeback the leg game
It's like it's slowly returning to them
It is returning and we do want to show you how it is returning with some some top tier map play
Yeah, I feel like the way that your Torah was playing yesterday is like you really kind of base his opponents
You know here you can see he uses man to he sent his illusion to the twin gate
He's pushing the tower and like already creep waves are so critical to the map play right?
So like he's making this move he sends like he's kind of baiting
Heroic into thinking he's far in the top side and you are gonna see humor
He draws the line to top side guys
He has to be in this top area but because of this creep wave going into the tier 2 tower your Toro's like guys
They're not pushing this wave
I'm gonna use my scan because he uses the scan it then goes red he does it so does the tank entirely so whilst he by himself
himself. He's like, microwaving illusions to bait out people. He's like making the scan
moves like he's doing all by himself. You fall for 20 seconds to here and then Spirit
of course are at the twin gate and they get a full team right heroic. But if Yatoru isn't
top lane, if he isn't using the illusions, the scans and dodging all these moves, you
aren't seeing this white bottom. And I think Spirit just understands each other's positioning
really beautifully to be able to create these moves.
I always thought that they're one of the best teams at kind of getting good fights in the
map and delaying the games. Kind of what you're saying, that magic of the late game is that
everything I think about the team ever since they won their first TI it's
always hey guys we're down 20k gold how do we win the game they're by far I
think the best team that I don't know if like coming back is the right way but
making it feel like every game is closer than it should be yeah it's like I
think it was like a previous that I hear we looked at the stats and like it
wasn't really there like they'd lost some of the late games that they they
become this team especially when Panto joined the roster like they they'd
lost like the shotcalling of Mapocheka you could feel it in some of the bigger
games. But I think panto has done an excellent job kind of filling those shoes tournament after
tournament that you can feel like together they're creating these moments together and it's like
yeah this event again with law returning it just feels like it's clicking. Well one thing's clicking
and that is the clock because it's birthday for the man on your screen it is yet Horo's 23rd
birthday today actually so maybe that gives them a power up as well and speaking of power ups for
team spirit. They also have
guys like guys I got one
birthday on is my time I've had
this saved for like a year.
I'm ready. I appreciate that
one. But of course, one thing
that he's spirit also has is
that you know for a while they
they played without silent as
their coach and they have got
Milan as a coach now and gunner
it seems to be working out for
that. Yeah, I think the way that
his coaching style is probably
good. Anytime you get a new ideas guy for the team, I think it always helps a lot, especially
when you're kind of in the point where you aren't consistent because it's like they have
the skill to do it, but then they're not consistent. So that's probably a drafting thing. There's
probably an ideas. So having Milan, who's a very like blunt coach in a good way. He's
like, this is good. This is bad. We should do this. I think it's probably going to help
them kind of get back that consistency.
Extreme lineup.
Yeah. Just be like, guys, we're going to pick this stuff that works for us. We're going
to do this in the game and the rest is up to you because you guys are good enough.
Also people that are good enough. I don't know people have you know, what kept track of what Vici game has been up to
But we heard from well himself that of course there they're the stand-in team
We talked about standing players Vici gaming is a stand-in team and when a week before
Pg of a lucky season 7 they found out that maybe they could
play here they
Dusted off their keyboards because yes, they thought they were having a two-month break
so they weren't actually playing Dota and they decided you know what, how about we just spam some pubs?
It wasn't scrims, they did not scrim before coming here, they were just spamming pubs
and boy oh boy did it work out, they have been playing some phenomenal Dota 2 also
especially compared to Team Spirit, they have gone the longest, we've played the most officials
to get here, only one of their series was a two-gamer, the rest all went the distance
so that's a lot of games, Avicii Gaming has been able to get under their belt
And it seems to be it seems to be gelling so well
Yeah, I think it's working because like they haven't had the scrims this expectation
There's like formulas that they've created to follow and that freedom is making them play better like shiro the way
He's like super aggressive in his carries like he's playing like terribly shadow fiends martyrs Mars
He's like I just feel like when I look at this team if they played more traditional to China
They would just be losing but like because they are so aggressive and they're overlapping their their style
It is like wow, the victory gaming can't do this. What the hell? I think it's great
So I really want them to continue down this like free style of play
I don't try and start adding some like systems in play just keep doing this because it's just
It's the way to beat spirit like you want to try and beat them in the early game
You want to create this chaos like don't play the long game against spirit? No and these two teams even though they haven't faced this season
They do have history of course at that point
I am going to refer to it was tight bound. So it was a player difference also on the side of Vici
and it was also the Parshka was still there instead of Panto. But they both made a very deep run in
PJ O'Lachia season four where they came to up four for tight bound and 56 for Spirit and it was
tight bound knocking out Spirit at that point. Spirit did get revenge in doing the reverse for
a blast slam at some point as well. So definitely the history is there but so much has changed. So
So this is, in my opinion, going to be a complete fresh series of how these two teams are going to clash, right?
Yeah, I also think the kind of one cool thing about the teams is their 4s do similar things,
but they're also very different than how they accomplish it.
They both want to play like these stuns annoying heroes, and so Planet does that by picking Tiny, picking Phases Void.
These like weird kind of melee 4s, pull the wave, make it awkward and kind of committed,
Whereas Rue is more of the traditional ranged support.
He plays a lot of Shadow Shove in this tournament.
I think he's played a good amount of Lion, I want to say.
Or in the past, I know he plays a lot of Lion, Hoodwink.
So it's kind of like a very different archetype.
And I think that because of that, Team Spirit's
playing a bit more to win the lane with Collapse.
And Vichy's playing more to go 50-50.
And it's very interesting because I think the Yatoro,
Like, that lane isn't so much going to matter too much because of this matchup,
but it's more the Shiro versus Collapse lane.
That is really cool because Shiro's a destroy the lane carry.
Like, he wants to pick the Marci, dumps to the lane,
and Collapse, Rue, we want to win the off lane kind of lane.
So I think even before the draft happens, that's already a volatile lane to me,
and there's going to be a lot of focus on the supports, the core matchups, just all in that lane.
Well, I think Milano Team Spirit are completely on board with that
because the Marcio in range of the Chiro normally does that on, those are out.
Shaddafini in though.
It's nice bands for sure.
Not only that, I'd say Vichy gave him taking away the Beastmaster.
The two heroes that I really looked forward to seeing in Spirits hands
were Beastmaster or Park throughout the entire group stage, right?
They were able to utilize the flexibility of Beastmaster,
Yutoro playing it carry more often than not,
and then Lyle's Park, like the confidence of taking it,
that you're talking about the Chiro collapsing.
If you don't have Yutoro or Lyle taking the early core pick,
Collapse will then have to pick an early off lane.
You invite Shira to find the aggressive carry to counter it.
So that is one thing for Spirit is,
they're probably going to utilize 18 or 23 pick
to give collapsed information,
don't give Shira kind of this free pass to playing it out.
So I think there's kind of two directions for this line pick
is either the first one I thought of,
would you just take the kind of carry to carry matchup
versus Shadowfiend?
Because a lot of them are banned.
Mainly I think the two best are Marcy Wind
and they're also going to be an Ursa plus one
as he's next to your banter spirit.
Or you just take the really strong offlaner,
which is probably Mars' by far the best offlaner
left in the pool of her shadow fiend.
And that would also get banned in this phase.
So it does make the Vichy carry pick up a bit hard.
I'm assuming, again, Ursa is gonna be banned
as one of these two, but if not,
I think that's a really solid 16-17.
Yeah, it also helps for Vichy getting picking Mars like this,
unlike Navi yesterday, because shadow fiends picked up,
if they are to pick, let's say, Ursa on Spirit,
like Shalafin then goes mid, Ursa goes carry, your mid needs Jashakaya, Aghs, or Blink,
sorry, then your carry needs Battle of Fear, like it's a lot of greed. So I think like
the Bluff is like, you're not going to pick an Ursa carry, you're not going to see the
BB Na'Vi repeat, we can just go for the Mars. Like it ensures that you're one ban on 12,
like again, you only have one option on second pick, it's very scary. And it doesn't need
to probably be wasted on that hero. Even invites what you mentioned, and them taking it themselves.
still some thought here going into if they shoot that out there so if they go
forward the Kez instead Kez removed because he has such a great win rate
gunner it's such an amazing hero yeah it's beautiful hero buying butterfly
every game making the winner to that I'm like 20% it's just so yeah I've not been
on the pilot can you like tell the all your case I hate okay do you hate Kez
because of the carries going for like battlefield butterfly and now there's
like a period after the word the only case that's been doing okay and has a
50% win rate is the mid case but is XM mid case player no no no so then it has
like a 1 and 9 or something yeah whatever it was I honestly didn't think
I'd be saying this but I do loosely agree with Reddit in the fact that I think
Kess is is the deso hero like buying this item going aggressive is good the
problem with it is so volatile if you don't get your item timings that you can
feel like you're you know a burden to your team hence why bird bird bird there
we go yeah I heard about that thank you I was worried you wouldn't but that's why
the battle battle fury butterfly etc makes sense for consistency but if I see
Kez all I see is like deso BKB kill things do you think the reason they buy
butterflies yeah they spread once we were to fly exactly it's like a chicken
where like he got two flaps goes up down and that's about it it looks like a
chicken he gets his head cut off some rounded circles every game it's like
dinner for the other team half the games yeah all right so the Kesin Jekiro
are out by spirit and then the one band that Vichy gave me had they removed the
centaur from the pool and they picked up the great pairing with the Mars in the
team fight department the Phoenix although I will probably play it on the
safe land and we do have planet with a core that or well not a core sorry that
That was the other one.
I don't know why Tiny Spirit.
I think this is the first time Spirit's picked Tiny in this tournament, if I'm not mistaken.
You are not mistaken, you are correct.
I'm not sure.
Some teams like it as mid.
I think Namely Liquid and Tundra with like the Anishinae BGM, but I honestly have liked
it more as the support role.
It has the BISMO win rate on support.
Sure, but I don't know.
Mid one, I feel like sometimes in the games can kind of fall off really, really quickly.
I like Mid Tiny only if the space the Mid Tiny makes with Phase Blink.
For it gives something.
Exactly. Like if you're picking Mid Tiny here, I see Shadowfiend getting
like the BKB Pike Daedalus timing if he's going like traditional carry and it's like,
okay cool, he's gonna get there. Like the Tiny will do enough to create these moves.
But isn't Tiny normally played as position four and or would Panto play it because Woodwind is also
It's probably just a mid. I mean my concern now is I would just pick Ember if I was Ricci.
I think Ember is like by far the best mid versus Tiny. I think that matchup is sure in competitive games
It's not as bad, but we thought maybe that's what they want because then they just put Shadowfiend.
Yeah, but then where's the Tiny go Kerry?
But we can't get Kerry to away guys.
No, we didn't fight.
I feel like the Tiny is mid, but if they pick a hard counter to Tiny mid to try and be cool
Tiny can just be the fight because of shadow fiend any mealy body make shadow fiend happy, right?
And if there is a draft in which which he gave me over react to it
Then you are going to utilize it but that panter will happily play it right like that's how I see the tiny right now
I can probably made I can accept that I just think that embers shown
Maybe on the series before but I think throughout the tournament at least it's a very consistently strong hero. Oh
Alright, well, I guess it's XM. Yeah. Yeah, we did you know, we do have to just say sniper
which I, it's okay. I like it just for the fact that, let's assume it is hoodwink tiny
supports right in that world, running to mid lane into like the nuisance of a sniper can
be annoying if you do get on top of him he'll die, but just like the idea that one more
support plus sniper you can kind of just keep this tower alive you can annoy the rotations,
you have a Mars ready for protection, like Mars sniper it just makes sense to be a good
Yeah, yeah, of course it's it is not a lane that the snipers in a stomp though with the tiny I think that one's just a completely like 50-50 lane
So I think you just put the tiny in it. I think that kind of doing this weird not weird
But like flexing it to the five is the code
Yeah, I think you just put it made I think here they just take an off-laner
Something with a strong lane. I don't know why but the first one that popped up in my head is axe
Just to kill these heroes, give you a blink stun, but I don't think that's probably what
they're going to pick.
It doesn't seem that good.
I mean the heroes they've been playing so far for backfiring, jumping, have been Slardar
and I think Panglir, the big two that have jumped.
Again, Panglir is like, you don't see that ever really.
It's like one game from Spirit, I think Amar played it maybe in Dream League.
It's like one or two games for the...
Serra looks fine.
They do go for it.
They do.
So it's like really no one's playing this hero, other than Spirit.
And they play it on Collapse?
Yes, and he's just doing like diffusal blink, playing on the, I burn your mana, I very slowly roll into you.
And then you just stun a dude, that's about it.
But Shaman doesn't want to have a pang on top of him.
Phoenix doesn't want to have to use Dive defensively.
And then Sniper, if your position is revealed, a Tynel blink, a Shadow Theme will be able to, if he goes Yashakaya blink, also utilize it.
utilize it. I mean back when pango was a pretty consistent hero and mars was also consistent it was
always if you want to pick mars you have to ban the pango because it's so annoying to deal with
a free bkb spell that is also kind of like breaking up the team fight stunning all these random heroes
phoenix does so much damage if there's a laser right doing the damage but one pango roll kind of
goes towards the phoenix stuns the phoenix that removes so much like teamfight from beachy's draft
i think it's cool the hero itself is a bit of a weak spot right now like it's one of those
it doesn't have a facet still. So I think that power level makes it a bit weaker.
Let's look into that one actually. There's no facets on heroes.
It just makes it a bit weaker on average. So I'm still curious to kind of the impact he'll have.
But as long as Spirit pick one more hero that can follow up with information,
I think it'll be fine. Like if I see a Clockwork Position 5 and it's like Tango,
Tiny and Clock, even Hood Week for some degree, placing Deep Vision,
like you're going to find a sniper, you're going to find a good positioning and you're giving like
like Shadowfiend, perfect entry to any engagement, right?
It's all about information, I thought it's the spirit.
Like all their team fighting is about obtaining information,
fighting back, and then when they see the,
kind of the mispositioning, that's when they pounce.
Well, if it is a tiny mid,
the combination we've seen from Thunder,
and yesterday as well, the coddle is still in the pool,
is that an option for spirit as well?
I would prefer a melee position five
to give life to Shadow of Ind in lane, or a range that has just a lot of damage.
I get a feeling it's going to be a ranged hero that is a lane winner.
Which is not cultural.
Yeah, like you want something that SF feels like he's winning the lane.
I mean, the only other direction that, like the only melee here I could see them going
would be Ogre Magi, which I don't-
It's a good fair, Bloodlust is very good in this game.
Very good Bloodlust game with both your tiny and your Shadow of Incors.
You're kind of a melee, like very tanky in the early game and you'll tank a lot of these
random spells.
You have a stun to stop the Shadowshawnman.
I think having a support with a stun is really important.
Clock is very good, but I get the feeling they should ban it.
But I'm gonna shoot it.
I think that's like the simple...
Yeah.
Clock's like the easiest hero to talk about, right?
But maybe that's like...
I think it's gonna get banned by VT.
That's my prediction.
So I'm trying to think of like what's kind of the next down the line.
I like the yoga for sure. I think if Imposhka was still playing the hero would be on my radar
Like one of the few ogre players out in the wild
The other one which is like a very opposite direction is it ends up for some reason being the tiny
Five and the ping omid and then the picked tight hunter
That's the like complete kind of opposite direction. You have a super teamfight break with the ravage
Yeah, you buy a pipe which I don't like you said, I think the penguin was really buying pipe
It was more like blink defusal.
No, he just went defusal blink.
So that gives him like a pipe buyer versus the phoenix.
And it'll probably, most of the carries that I think Vichy would want Taito to do except
Bluverse, the only one that could be scary is Ursa.
Yeah, I'm surprised Ursa's still in the pool, but makes sense I guess.
But I even think the Taito hoodwink lane can beat an Ursa,
just with like gush and kind of just doing a bunch of damage.
But I think that one's like way more unlikely than taking a support.
I mean they have overall last pick and if they want the ranged carry on the side of beachy gaming the Medusa would be an option there too
Yeah, there's a do so. I think it's more likely gonna be a
Okay, that's a five. Yeah, so kind of forgot it for an hero
Yeah, I'm picking the total I'd be so far. Yeah, it's been nerfed a good amount since it's kind of like hey days
What like four months ago five months ago? Yeah, but I think the hero still does the exact same thing deluge is really strong
song is really strong because you pop the egg you song and you can still hit the egg because it's a building
Or so I guess the war unit so let you hit during the song
Okay, what's here we're gonna play her son there you go it is a spin
Yeah, a problem that vici gaming had was like naga siren
counters team fight that is locked into whether you says both right egg
Serpent Mord's arena. If you have to now take the fight in a different location, you're gonna refuel that on your draft.
So of course Naga Siren is the counter to it, right? And now Sven at least it's like, I will delete a hero during my BKB,
and now we'll have numbers advantage so we can chase with numbers advantage with our ultimates.
But I think yeah, the Sven pick, it's nice. It kind of deals with the Naga problem to some degree.
I think the biggest thing is you want to pair this core with the sniper, give the sniper something that goes in in the
would be like Wraith King, Alchemist, Sven, there's all these like kind of archetype of like stun heroes, Dragonite, and in this game
Sven kind of looks the best to me because of the armor versus Shadowfiend
I think is the big one and just like the stun is so easy for him to just kind of get and even though damage versus the pango is really nice
I mean Spirit's just been playing really beautiful teamfights recently, but for Vichy gaming
They have to play into that and continue kiting themselves, right?
They have to try and bait the pango in the tiny inn, disengage a little bit, and then use their spells nicely and
and make sure that BKBs are again kind of synced with the song timing so if you don't do it,
you'll just get disjointed but I think both teams are going to be pretty happy with what they got.
No do we have a... do we have a Leaning Slammy one way or the other? A little bit of a favor?
I think I'm Leaning Vichy a little bit. Just so I can see the World Sniper just keeps
crying to a pike and grenade and all this stuff but... I don't know after all. High amounts of
confidence in Pango. I played it a bit this patch and it feels okay but it's not. It doesn't feel
anything like what it used to be it's like a you know if you put in a lot of work in the game it'll
be good but i don't know i see a bach mars and i want to root for him yeah that's fair we often do
see the mars being banned out against bg gaming for that very reason but on the other side we do
have scary shadow fiend has been doing well that's true shadow fiend is just one of those heroes that
no matter what happens it's gonna look good at this tournament i like to see unpicked heroes get
picked up in important moments and like seeing another star like again on paper it can do so much
So it's like if Pantoo can shine on this hero, like I'm just excited to see that as well.
Okay, we're all very excited for this game one and also very excited to get in some words
from coach Milan, who's standing by with slacks. Absolutely, we're here with Milan. Milan, so good
to see you. Thank you so much for joining us. Question first, sir. What patch are you on?
This is a Naga Siren. This is a Pango. Have you read the patch notes? What are you doing picking
these guys? No, I was just chilling. The team spirit called me in. I'm on the old patch now.
Okay, okay. Now jokes aside though Naga's our first pick of the tournament specifically in this game seems pretty interesting to me
Can you give us a little bit of insight? I mean we played it before in scrims and I think this is in previous patches
Was forbidden combo like Naga SF like you just don't give it to enemy and now it's maybe it's not like insta win
But it's still pretty good. I think yeah, absolutely. Well your team is experiencing it on it
of course. You're gonna give them the Mars. Now, this is a team that does very well with Mars.
Obviously, we're gonna see it popping out first. Are you guys prepared for this?
Yeah, we have, like, I think maybe one of, if not the best Mars players in the world. So,
we know this hero very well. And we knew the equation. We just accepted it, yeah.
All right. Now, this is, I believe, the Yachtaro birthday. Yeah, give me some background info.
How much has he celebrated so far? Is he in top form? Did he go out last night? You know,
is he full of birthday cake how's our boy gonna perform I only found out this
morning even last night like at midnight be the outside nobody said
anything but this morning we just saw we just said
Danum Rogeria I think yeah and that's it all right maybe later well hopefully
he gets a nice win on the series for his birthday he said that would be the
best gift well let's hope that he gets the best gift out there as we head into
game on his best of three happy birthday to Yathrow celebrating today. Let's see if you
can get some nice presents as he's got the shadow fiend. Yeah, gets his hand on one of
the one of top carries the top carry in the current patch and Yathrow, the best gift you
can give to a daughter player. Just give me a good game, man. You know, he just wants
and yeah this lane Milan talked about it's very nasty you can pull people in
with the ensnare of course and then you have SF also nice minus armor synergy
there's a lot of stuff that you want to be careful about the forbidden combo
not just in lane but in game right song with Requiem for the ensnare with
raises you've also got song with the rolling thunder and this ability to
reset the fights when Mars arena and supernova come into play so it does take
a lot of boxes as we were looking at the end of that draft wondering what Panto
was gonna play yeah actually it's not a minus armor scenario anymore I still
think of it like that in my brain but true she doesn't mind his arm at all it's
just the flow of speed and the magical damage so yeah we see planet trying to
get a courier snipers can't get it does that boots on the roster so quite sneaky
I need to keep the distance away from that Naga play keep away somewhat
the roster isn't terrible against Naga and Lendo he does have the hex on auto
attack so you can use that to insta kill some delusions here and there. He does use it immediately
in lane. And then Tiny against Sniper. Not really the best matchup for Sniper, early on
last and twice. Since Tiny has so much less damage you can already see 8 and 2 versus 3
and 1 on mid lane so Laurel definitely off to a good start.
Yeah, especially in the next couple of waves the Nines are going to start wrapping up for
Yeah, it's when you get like level 3, get some items on Sniper, then Link becomes harder for Tiny
But he should still be able to farm his bottle into Soul Ring builds that he relies on for farming
And Sniper is still Mr. Wraith Band, isn't he?
Yeah, Wraith Band's get at least one, maybe two, go Power Trance early, could go Orb of Corrosion and more kill
Kill Lanes, but against Tiny it's pretty hard. You keep hitting him, you just lose your damage over time
The craggy exterior really stacks up and yeah because he is already doing like minus minus eight percent damage
Put on a ghillie suit and try and hide away
Nice planet up at top lane does get zoned away from Lane
Naga Illusion is chasing all across
What's the goal here courier snipe and bounty rune because he's got no regen really
I think courier snipe and yeah, maybe go for go for point next creep wave if you can
One more hit, under tower, doesn't want to go and risk it.
Even with boots, Rasta is just not that fast of a hero, 330 movement speed with boots
versus their 330 movement speed without boots of the Naka.
Seems fair.
Chicken chaser, where do the chickens run?
Not even catch them.
Chicken chaser, the hero.
I'm looking forward to the new table game.
Same.
Yeah, hopefully.
It's a big fan of the first one.
It's not one of those more or no over promising things, but we'll see
I wasn't a fan of fable 3 to be honest with you
No one and two that's where it was good. Absolutely
Rasta did manage to get the pull through get the pull behind the tier one tower and
Even used the shackles on one of our creeps just to get some HP back for himself. He's too low HP
He doesn't really feel comfortable
Panto trying to play behind this tower the plan is gonna walk into him
This is a hard hero to trade into as Rasta, even though Rasta hits really hard, Naga just
has a lot of armor to begin with, can of course keep just making illusions, get favourable
trades.
Need to give Shadow Shadow on a barge pole, stay 10 feet away from Naga at all times.
Even if you come here and make sure you scout out and he stacks being made.
So he's stacking camp in jungle himself and then blocking enemy camps to make sure they're
not being stacked.
getting a lot of utilization out of this illusion early on.
Yeah, also scouting and just checking where people are moving, keep an eye on this Rasta
at all times.
So very difficult for him to make moves towards mid, because otherwise Sniper plus Rasta might
be able to kill off the Tiny, but this is going to be hard to get past the guard that
is the Naga Siren.
And then because Sniper is not going for any bottle or anything, it's Tiny getting all
the runes and herma refills.
Shackles from Planet, going to try and keep Panto at bay, we saw Yattaro starting to wander
over there. Can't connect in any meaningful way. And at the bottom we've not already looked
at too much. Collapsed Roo, the pango and the hoodwink into a spin Phoenix link.
And so far Collapsus is owning this lane 27 and 6 versus 16 and 4 so lane is working out really
well. I think a lot of that can be attributed to hoodwink just being pretty damn strong as boss 4.
It's one of those 4s that just does a ton of damage to both the carry and the support all the time.
and they have they here they do have some nice utilization for the mines armor so
this is new age pango old pango uses skill qw and discover yeah but new age
pango is 404 quite often maxing out the lucky shot just to get a lot of mines
armor it stacks up to nine and then you have a hoodwing look taking advantage of
the miners armor dealing extra damage with a control it's not fun when you're a
phoenix with very little armor he's brought himself a ring of protection and
and tries to stay under tower as much as possible because of those exact things you're saying.
Yeah, walk away too far and you might just get bursted really fast.
So far, very good. So collapsed in that bottom spot.
33 and 10, getting on top of Y.
Bushwhack, he'll try and dive, actually goes aggressive here, back off of the pango with the fiery spirits and XM rotating.
Six minutes in to get first blood and an assassination onto Rue.
Ooh, enough damage, I didn't think he'd have quite enough.
I think you got headshot headshot headshot proc on that. That's how hoodwink feels. Yeah
A lot of damage of course the physical and the magical damage coming in so 77 damage means he did get a headshot, right?
So it's his 66 physical damage gets a headshot proc on that. So yeah, if you didn't get the proc it wouldn't make it
Very good move
Because usually you'll be looking at six minutes gonna come into mid guard the active rune. Sniper doesn't care
Don't play through me. He moves into your lane and kills you and now with that death though moving top bushwhack on the back
It's gonna get
for me blocked by Panto
Get some self-safety quite nicely though
And too much danger, but they are bringing more reinforcements up here
Planet and XM making that wonder. Yeah, it's only a level one bushwhack
so hard to hold people in place for too long.
Panto does see them coming, so no grab there.
And Radiant Vision also watching couriers flying on by.
This move will come to nothing, just outside of the range of the sentry as well, it's very close.
It's a fortunate for Spirit.
So overall both the offlaners are doing pretty well for themselves though.
Mars obviously with equal last hits to the SF and Pango.
Despite the death down bottom, he's still feeling pretty good.
It's going for an early diffusel, 500 gold away from it at 7 minutes.
That's going to be a massive timing.
Both teams get their wisdom shrines.
No contesting, just a straight up laning phase.
Not too much in the way of aggression.
Compared to the previous series where it was really high off-tane from the get-go, playing
Grecipe into these lanes it seems like this one's a steadier start.
Everyone's getting towards their initial items but Barc says enough steady, let's rock things
around with Yattaro.
getting caught in the arena, shackled and puddled by Bach.
Yeah, for now, not much you can do as Naga there can't really save.
Had a healing loader, but it would not have been enough even.
It was also kept at bay by the ulti.
A 3-0 star.
Very good beginnings for Vici Gaming.
I do like the way XM plays Sniper.
I think he's the best sniper in pro level.
Generally, as a sniper spammer myself,
I really, really think XM is the one who has the best understanding
in pro level of how to utilize this hero. He never waits around and just sits in farms,
he always is the first one to make active moves to side lanes,
and that can be the best way to keep this squishy hero alive.
Don't sit and wait for someone to gank you, become the one who ganks the opponents.
Yeah, don't leave your artillery out in a field, put it on the train tracks and move it around,
put it into these better positions. What else is moving around is this gank coming down bottom.
Rue and Laurel, they're going to get it on top of Sven.
At last toss, back towards Phoenix, beautifully done to set up a Rue with an acorn shot and
collapse comes in to slice in with his rapier to take Shirou down low and Laurel has enough
with one more punch.
Well, that worked out really well for them, Laurel with a nice combination.
Yatro have to go for a defensive wrecking him up top.
Help us back away as well.
But again, XM, really levying that early ability to be aggressive, that early leadies head out
at mid lane.
Yeah, it's top lane.
Very difficult for SF to come and sit and hold the wave.
He just wants to come and say hi to Yattro on his birthday, you know?
He just gives him a little bit of a hello, some shrapnos, maybe an ulti.
Kind regards.
That does leave mid lane pretty open as well as the tiny focus down bottom.
Sniper's gonna start laying into the tower.
No snakes just yet, only a level 5 roster, but I'm just thinking about going for a kill.
Real in under tower.
Planet's gonna come and try and save this sniper with a die from Y.
Looks like X-Xone's just gonna die here.
With an avalanche, cross combo, it's easy pickings.
Super, uh, Sunray, sorry, on to collapse in the back with Vox Arena Sphere, they found
a pango.
And collapse wanted to bite off a little bit more.
Song?
The two low mana.
Nothing though.
Lyle doesn't have much left in the tank.
You're right.
Yeah, the Soaring cooldown, six seconds, doesn't really have enough to, to do a toss into Avalanche
play again.
He does get a haste rune as a reward for winning this big fight.
Haste rune on Tiny, generally the best rune that you can find in the early game is just
really really nice to have mobility in this hero.
Very important that Barker is there though, because that quite easily could have snowballed into
you know the kill on Sniper, into Shadashama, into another one, but Mars makes sure that not only do they stop the aggression, but they get a core kill as well.
Yep.
Laurel does have a 10 minute blink dagger on this tiny, so along with the haste he also has the blink ready.
I can only imagine that Sniper is going to be on his mind trying to get the biggest target.
For now, sneaking that bottom. Sven is definitely farming pretty far away. They did see him
earlier kind of making his way towards the left, not farming the ancient stack just yet.
3 minutes left to the record. Very quick blink.
Yeah, super super fast. He did skip faceboots, but I don't think he'd need faceboots on
Tiny really. It can be useful, but if you can hit this super early timing on Blink instead,
it's definitely stronger.
Shiro very much in catch-up mode
4000 net worth for him as he tries to accelerate through his jungle
Yattaro having an easier time doing that with some pre-stacked ancients they can clear with the razors
So he'll stay about a thousand ahead of his counterpart for now
Get some good gold for himself. He's super low right now. So no idea of defending this tier one tower
Just come back away from it
Yeah, Marius comes back up top
Kill off the objective
And I have that vision of the tormentor so yeah, so I know you can stay in his pocket or farm and keep glaring jungle in
Relative safety for now. Yeah, it's gonna farm probably all the way back towards base wants to push out of lane lane perhaps
Radiant for now probably pretty happy with how the early game is going when you're booking sniper
You know as long as you don't get shut down in the early lane stage and you get to start taking towers
You feel pretty good about yourself
Mid tower is probably going to be the important point though if they can open up the dire tier one mid
Having supernova for why a pretty big tool there
We want to pair up with this Mars get some of those combos going
Currently though, it is very farm heavy
Just trying to make sure they guard their own ancients with some vision stack up camps to keep the bank accounts filled
from both teams, 4 to 4, 13 minutes in.
There's a lot more tools now available for this next fight than was available last time.
We have a lot of ultimates coming in, Phoenix ulti, we have Rasta ulti, Denaga and Hoodwing
both have theirs as well, so all the supports are ready.
They're thinking about going through the gate and heading bottom, but Spirit not only
showing anyone on the map, they're just playing into this top observer board where they've
They've seen SF and Naga Siren come across.
Yeah, they saw them on the lane with their observer words, but realizing Naga is there, it's pretty hard to go for the SF,
and they don't want to connect with Naga. It's such a low-impact kill, so trying to find the Pangoliren time.
Quite easily turns from you initiating on Yathrow to him song-recreating you.
Yeah, yeah, with perfect timing, they could definitely turn that around into a disaster for you.
Instead, kind of hunting collapse, but he's gone back to farm some stacks.
Still a lot of agents there to be taken down as well, I'm assuming Yatra will come to play that hour eventually.
Yeah, most likely gonna farm that once he wants to complete his Kaya Shower.
Head on over.
Probably now.
They wanna drop some attention towards top though.
Vici feeling that there's a move coming.
They have tightened up into that bottom right hand corner playing alongside the Sven.
But when it doesn't happen, no trap is sprung.
They're kind of wondering what's going on. Good scan will turn red, so Innocence is going to put himself on the front lines here.
The smoke break in the toss-requiem, very well executed to blow up the Phoenix.
Poor little Phoenix, they did look for a kill for quite a while, so after popping the ulti they're saying,
you know what, this is not going to be a failed attempt, we're going to kill this guy.
Maybe a bit overkill, but you and I have been calling as well, was it Paravision playing when we said that?
Just using your spells, right? Just use your spells.
P-Flax was right all along.
Absolutely was. It's a wise man.
And it is Yathra's birthday.
Keep giving the Dark Lord more presents.
True, that is true.
The Dark Lord needs presents.
Giving presents.
That's beautiful.
Not even Yathra once.
Lasting ones.
It's a tiny update to go for travels
next after a blink dagger.
We haven't seen too much come out of the blink
the blink just yet just the one pick off.
Well a rebuke into arena spear, sun ray onto lal as a tanky tiny though.
Spending spells and getting no kill.
Vici gaming looking for any areas of weakness but so far team spirit not offering any.
It's hard for them as well and Vici they don't want to overextend too much and get punished.
If they play into the team spirit area you might get repositioned on by the song right?
mentioned how Song counters out the egg, it also counters out the roster words, it also
counters out the sniper's positioning sometimes. You pop a Song, reposition, get on the sniper,
so I really think a lot comes down to this last pick.
And they're going to toss back on the Phoenix again. So twice in a row they found Y in that
middle lane. The capital wave here looks like they're going to press forwards towards the
objective. Don't mind if I swagger.
My first birthday.
Why does he look so sad though?
No one came. He's all alone, he bought that hat for himself.
No one came, all sore, all conquered.
That's what I'm each going to try and do. Live up to their namesake.
Taking the mid tower. SF is stealing away some stack powers and
ancients as well. Barkley's going to see him though. Hello, Yataro.
Spirit into the trees, Trapnel and the Clicks from Sniper, not enough to finish him so he
turns on the Egg, will die eventually to the burn of a time, and Yatra are making the
most of a bad situation but now the Naga Siren, Naga Spirit, just gonna have another Spirit
to the game, Team Spirit do lose two of their heroes over in the enemy jungle.
And just make her jump around as well you know, can't imagine Naga Siren but instead
of having song ulti it's just like a new version of ball lightning so you can TP around and
split push even harder.
It's the real energy you're seeing on teleports.
The worst spirit ever.
Don't take any ideas please.
Just nag about with more mobility.
Signs of life from Vici Gaming is things have definitely been slow.
Making sure they defend an air raid, get this fan and sniper involved.
Shadow Shaman.
A little bit broken, a little out here though, broken and rolled on by Collaps.
Link dagger debut as he goes, looking in the back, sees nobody.
That's a big kill on the support.
He's gonna turn around and back to farm again.
Then again, we have to point out this game, all the cores are staying with the pack, right?
We don't have anyone really lagging behind, net worth wise.
Yes, Ven is leading in charge, 9.4k gold, he's pretty big.
But the lowest farm is 8.3, so they're all within almost a thousand gold range of each other.
So, very, very close battle, and it's going to be very interesting to see how the mid-game team fights play out.
I think Team Spirit have a better lineup of fighting cores, whereas Radiant are a bit greedier with the Sniper Sven setup here.
Definitely the double carry kind of feeling, Melstrom, Dragonlands.
So it's going to be hard to navigate for Veitchi how to deal with those fights.
Yeah, it is interesting how these teams match up, because I remember, you know, Tianming isn't on his team,
but I remember an interview with him not long ago, talking about Chinese Dota in general,
and how they wanted to extend games and kind of hit two or three items before they were ready to really go and take fights.
Although they do want to kind of delay things out and find little pick-offs on supports like this to bridge the gap
before they get to that mid to late game.
And it feels like, you know, that's been the MO for Chinese teams for quite some time.
some time is try and get late find this one strategy that wins it like 30 35
minutes team spirit also kind of sits in that camp as well they enjoy going late
game they like dragging games out to hit no a real heavy pace I think the
complicated thing about this game is that both teams kind of want to go late
but you spirit gonna be in a pickle because you're going to eventually have
to push high ground into what's gonna be a Mars jumping you sniper defending
Possible Phoenix, Ulti, dropped as well. They have pretty good high ground defense and the late game of Vici is very very strong
So you look towards team spirit and see what do they have to push high ground?
It's
Literally just this it says it says it says that and that's your carry
So he would have to show himself basically what I'm getting at they rely on getting ages
They rely on him getting that timing if they ever want to crack high ground because they're building pushes pretty underwhelming
well-meaning unless we see of course tiny pivot into some for a right-click build but
Nine times I attend mid-tiny's they're gonna be spellcast the focus
You know, maybe some big be maybe a shadow blade, but very rarely any former real attack build
Yeah, or you get into that nitty-gritty
Buyback status team fight outside of the base or a toss back, you know the little details definitely can work
But overall yeah, you're right. It's just SF has to kind of bully his way up to high ground
So any minutes in though, Team Spirit readying themselves out of tormentor and Vici Gaming not going to let this one go without a fight.
Darra observed by the Lotus Pool but a smoke from Vici Gaming gets them in position.
Team Spirit in a pretty good spot.
Barc smoke breaks.
Vision is there, Log gets the avalanche toss.
Sunray on the Barc gives him a live though and there's Arena on Log.
The Pangos drop.
The Pangos drop.
The Pangos drop.
Fong comes too late but maybe they can still play into this one.
this one. Supernova lands, Serpent Rolls still here. Panto and Yattaro move on forward.
Requiem, fear pushes them back. Team Spirit though, down to Pango, have to retreat. Panto
is in trouble and Yattaro, where he's invades in the Shadowblade. Away from any kind of
reveal and will disengage, but now, Gigi gave it. That's their tormentor.
That was really impressive reaction coming out from Vici. I thought they would flunder
with the Mars getting caught there and Pango just didn't have a chance to get his ulti
going before the quick jump from Planet. Planet, I say jump, he basically just ran in and found
him there. Of course, Sven leading the way and then the follow up, but the no-boots
are getting in and holding the pango in place.
See, it looks like Spirit had this advantage from the high ground. Division, the teamfight
starts, but you're right. This arena, this split.
Shiro with a quick stun, indeed he was the first one there.
They do have a snipe on XM, but he's not quite finished off. That Sunray actually nearly
He kept him alive, luckily for Spirit Laurel, and does come in to finish the job.
Pretty unexpected for Vici that they would just bounce back into the same area on T-Spirits.
Usually when you lose the Tormentor, you kind of gravitate away from that area.
You go and farm, you know, safe part of a map.
So XM probably got caught by surprise by this.
He does have the Hurricane Pike on XM, and he's queuing up the Agatom Scepter to get more quick disables.
so they can maybe set up stun or even follow up stun
for his team
he's not trying to be like a hard carry necessarily on Sniper
it's gonna be more of a utility build
would even like to see him get a shard for himself
after the agonim scepter
a shard on Sniper
I rate it as one of the absolute strongest shard in the game
it's so good
10 second cooldown is very very low
and all the stuff it does is so nice
it even has a mini stun
in case you don't have ulti and someone's TPing out
You can always use that.
Disengage, reposition.
He does tons.
Those little tools around his kit.
The BKB can go first.
Tumble, blink, dusk.
Shiro, he sees the hoodway.
Hecks on the timing to make sure there's no toss.
Can't allow the Spans to get BKB off.
Arena will trap him inside and block Team Spirit away.
Another decisive move from BG Gaming.
Gets them involved and moves them to an objective.
That's great to watch that rush.
For the ulti and the RastaWords, it's falling pretty fast and no signs of contesting this one really.
Like a song isn't even available, she can scout it with the illusions but she's not going to be there to steal it.
And there we clear direction for Peachy so far.
And you were saying it could be difficult for Spirit to navigate the high ground pushes if they ever find themselves in that position,
or at Vici Gaming much easier with this Sniper Svan to get up there.
I do think so, yeah. They also have the Rust Awards, so if they ever want to push the high ground,
I think they have multiple different ways to deal damage,
and it's not all hinging on one single person being the one to deal the building damage.
Like no-committal, low-committal, high-committal, they have like three range of options.
Exactly, yeah. Svan can go if it looks clear and they want to really bring the damage he can hop on.
Enter our budget package or the executive one.
the premium Sven ulti package.
Exactly.
Did you have the entire Silverge already complete on SF?
I think part why you didn't go blink dagger in this game is because
Sniper can cancel blink from really far away.
Phoenix ulti can cancel your blink quite easily as well.
Because otherwise I do like the Kaiash.
Oh, he's going for an ulti on the TP through.
Wow.
Okay, he caught the Phoenix.
So you might get punished for it.
Yeah, with no Silverge for 10 seconds.
Lyle is going to come and stop the Sven, but Bark is here, Song to reset.
Yachter and Rue looking at a turn around in fact.
Dangerous territory still though with Vici gaming approaching.
Magasar and Hexdub, Glimmer to run away, rolling Thunder to cause some chaos for Shura with a quick BKB.
Make sure it doesn't get clipped by the roll.
Lyle is into the back on the Shadow Shaman, BKB tiny, clears our planet.
Collapse trying to roll back in onto Sven, but the damage is substantial and with Sniper coming in,
coming in, collapse, he's got shield crash to high ground, swashbuck on cooldown, team
spirit holding the staircase and forcing Vici back.
Poking back and forth, Vici gaming down to support in a 3v5, don't want to continue.
Yeah, because they don't have supports nearby there, they are respecting the silver, it's
just backing out, not going up that high ground.
It would have been a fatal mistake to chase after team spirit, but they stay pretty disciplined
and team spirit, they bail out the shadow fiend, the important part of that.
And that started with a requiem on the twin gate, killing Phoenix.
Yeah, he saw the gate being activated and he timed his ulti perfectly.
Got the Phoenix when it came through.
He didn't know who was coming through, but it didn't matter.
Presence or presence in the eyes of the birthday boy.
I sure are.
Just get another gift.
Imagine just rip it open. Who cares about the wrapping paper?
Imagine if he got a Sven coming through and just gets the ulti on him.
Could have been an easy takedown on the Aegis as well.
Still, both teams are kinda playing the top areas, SF6, sticks around.
Okay, I have a listen in as well.
Sounds like they wanted to try and play wide map as possible, catch any straggling targets,
because they have all this maneuverability.
Yeah, that's very nice. I completely understand why making that call when they have the travels
and Silver Edge. It's difficult to cover the entire map with the Sentries. Ooh, the glimmer.
Nice Duke there coming out from Rue as well.
Alright.
There's a Zeg in the bag.
Serpent was down on the tier two. The budget package, low committal push.
Bottle, come in and add a little bit of help.
Oh, there's the premium. They've upgraded.
Rasta works sniper hitting, Sven hitting. That's the full package right there.
They joined the loyalty program. Free upgrade!
If you want to push high ground you need to subscribe to our services.
Well Sven clears out enemy ancients.
Well Shadowfiend and Pango go dip from this bottom right hand corner.
Rejoined with a tiny Enaga up top.
It still has been a bit of a challenge for Spirit to get a good grasp on the map.
And get some traction here because Vici Gaming have been matching and meeting with the 5v5 every time Spirit have made a move forward.
Yeah, but they are contesting the top part of the map a lot. They really want to try and get this tier 1 tower.
But again, the problem being that they don't have easy building hitting. They don't have a local middle way of taking towers, like we talked about.
We meme a little bit about Vici and their different levels of taking power, but it's really true that Team Spirit, they have three heroes here.
They all watched the tower a little bit, but they can't do anything to it.
Yeah, I mean a lot of this is now resting on collapse and ruin, the hoodwink, you know, notoriously good at scouting people out, hiding the trees, looking for things, getting vision, so these two dark observer wards that keep the vision in the lane, very important for Spirit here, so they can then use the Putin's travel, they can use this sock, the silver edge to set up a fight.
Yeah, they're going to dip out from the top area now, finally, team spirit setting up down bottom.
Yeah, they're spending quite a bit of time looking around for anyone he can find for kills,
but needs to keep pace with farm as well, since Sven has overtaken him right now.
Going for a Daedalus and his DPS will be crazy.
Actually, there's no individual targets to be had.
They're playing like a friggin Portuguese man-a-war.
They're not one big jellyfish.
a bunch of little individual organisms all in a symbiotic relationship holding hands and playing
together and being very dangerous while they do so. Team Spirit needs some way to cut them in pieces.
I have heard that you win together or lose together in Dorosa, you know? And slay together
apparently. Oh and Team Spirit, they don't get the jump on Shiro, he's got quick fingers.
They have some nice vision to play towards though, they see heroes on the ward's
Rasta showing himself, they know he's in the treeline. Resmoke.
Look. The vision. Yattaro gives vision for Lullaby.
Jumping, immediate agg, Sunray and the Damaguntime. It blows him up.
Yattaro's Rackbeam does very little. BKB still going here so they can focus the SF.
The SON comes in in time. Sven is stopped with his tracks.
Collapse rolling back in while Bach defines the opening on Yattaro.
Blows up the SF. Sheerow looked like he was in trouble for a moment there.
But the roll back up and the disengage now from Team Spirit.
They'll lose out Rue and TP from Collapse and he stuns coming.
Stop coming! No! Barely!
Gets home as the spear goes straight through, where his body used to be.
God damn Bach showing no mercy, gets the blink after there. Nice song reset at first, but it wasn't enough to save this,
because the Mars also got time for his blink to reset, chases after, throws the arena and catches the birthday boy.
Happy birthday to the ground, Gareth.
Did Bach just get like two levels from killing SF?
Are you solo killed?
4,000 experience!
Yeah? I mean, it was solo killed.
Incredible. Well, solo-kill on a low HP SF I should say. He was not at his best conditions, let's say, when that started.
A little bit down and dejected.
Nicely caught there.
Then we see the teamfight power that Vici have.
It's not easy if you don't get a perfect jump, and that's unfortunately, Tiny didn't BKB before jumping in.
Right? He didn't BKB, he blinked in, got the stun, didn't get the toss back because he got hexed immediately.
Immediately quick fingers come out by planets who has been all point with the roster so fast
And the moment of ability beachy giving out the harder gets the team spirit to pull off team fights
And blink dagger on sniper on top of this shard and
Hurricane pike because he doesn't have the shard yet, but when he does have it
I'll have so much so many ways to disengage. Yeah. Yeah, he's going for the super survivable sniper
This is how XM usually play sniper
and I actually
love this playstyle. It is low DPS in general but by staying alive you will
do a lot of damage. Problem is if you buy a bunch of damage you'll be super easy
to kill. This build is a tricky case to solve.
A smoke.
Being behind.
A spirit coming towards the tomb.
A little bit there at least.
We'll claim it. Stick around in the glorious green.
Collapses gonna roll up and all the vision for the Sunray Supernova already in play.
Back to the KPE, Planet is slain.
Larl on the run as Naga Sauron comes in with a song, but the turn and focus on the tie now.
Stuck in the arena, Wreckman wound up, Yasuo trying to fear the back.
Refresh up from Bark as Larl falls and XM just sat on the sidelines, peeping away as SF is cleared out.
Shiro with a double kill, XM being focused by Collapsed.
He's not got too much in the way of backup.
The reel in forces Sven back towards the Naga while it collapses.
He's still a dangerous fellow.
Nice tool.
This Pangolier, he's got a lot of damage with his Agni-Mceptor.
He goes back in.
Panto's died, but the Sven can he stand his ground and pangol?
With the forest spirits going, the panga picks up a double.
Collapses go in wild.
One more to do the job, but the team wipe!
A lot of fight collapse ends up being the beel end all at the end of a long scrappy fight.
When the ulti is out for Sven, he does not win a manfight against Pango with his lucky shot procs, 160 attack speed reduction.
11,000 damage, 9 heroes die.
That's it, yeah. I mean, that's a whole lot better.
6,000 damage.
6,000 damage, the experience was amazing.
I got a bit excited.
I mean, he did get 11,000 EXP though.
That's something to hype. He's level 24, Gareth.
Yeah, we see the jump. The initial roll-through was insane, but Rasta traps the SF in ward traps, so he got the kill on the Rasta, but then SF has to run away, disengage, and they basically didn't connect all at the same time initially.
But there was a really clutch moment here. Refresher was used by Mars, but BKB didn't have time to come out before the SF ulti.
While SF didn't really get to dominate that fight,
killing off the Rasta and then getting a fear that killed off the Mars,
I think the first two pick-offs were basically thanks to Yattaro.
That's insane that Team Spirit find his angle.
That collapse, yeah, he keeps getting shielded up.
Panto sacrifices himself to keep the pango going.
Pango and Panto bearing up beautifully.
Yeah, back in life we had Roche taken down,
ages over on the aftero cinema cool as ice smile for laps he waits until he's
done you know when everyone is dead that's when you allow yourself to okay
heck I smile anymore threats detected no relax he did well nice he's playing
really great on the pangolier fun to see you know these off meta heroes coming
out from Team Spirit the naga siren has worked out really well the pango has
been really good as well so some clever drafting coming out at the same time
Vici still ahead in golds in definitive terms they are ahead but there's not
ages advantage we'll see how much team spirit can make happen with it this
pango scaling really quickly there's agg-octerine into the basher
there's a nasty amount of damage and he took the attack damage a swashbuckle
damage talent so that's gonna make his Q all that much stronger and he has aggadam scepter
which of course procs even more when he spends the W. He can do a serious amount of damage
and I think he's making the right choice by going for a basher next. He doesn't necessarily
need to go all in crazy that oh I'm gonna be a damage dealer but we saw how he can win
against the Sven in manfight when Sven doesn't have ulti. Given a basher he might be able
the manfight him even when Sven does have ulti because if you just bash proc him non-stop you'll be pretty fine
there we go he's pretty pretty thick that boy
bonjour level 25 yeah just be back with you
come on son that missy me oh wait wait what's happy birthday in french uh i i born born anniversaire
That's the one. That sounds right.
Yeah, got this one.
That's what he's saying to Yatharo. Absolutely.
Yep, yep, yep.
On Y, out on the map, looking to get some deep wards down,
looking to cover this area at enemy ancients.
He's about to be spotted by Rue and Lyle,
so he's going to tuck himself in the trees,
but the tinies made the jump.
Opps to ulti.
This is probably not going to go down there.
Really, so that's tiny and hungry.
I can't touch the egg.
It's being protected.
Oh, no.
rounds all the bash collapse stops the TV
unfortunate for why the basher already worth its worth its gold yeah it's kind
of unfortunate when the egg comes down and you realize the year to the slowest
base attack time heroes in the game is like yeah I'm a tiny ever hoodwink don't
worry we'll kill the egg need the SF to be around for that one
Yattaro is deadless now an absolute monster into the damage output I really
I like this itemization.
Tephikibe, Kaya Yasha, Silver Edge and Daedalus.
It basically has everything you need.
Just needs the satanic next for sustainability and lifesteal.
But his damage is insane.
His viability is pretty damn good too.
Is this one of those games where we just very highly rate
the initial jump?
Like, vision into jump seems very strong.
The first jump is very important, at least how it goes.
But it depends who they go on, right?
We can see it backfire a whole lot.
If you find Naga, it's really big for Vici.
Naga and Phoenix, the two big teamfight supports, very easy to kill.
Yeah, I might even rate finding Shadashaman even higher.
Oh really?
If you get a clean take on the Shadashaman.
Yeah, because Phoenix ulti, it is disruptive, it's annoying.
But I think Rasta with Blink and Etherlands, if he goes unchecked,
he can have some very, very disruptive impact.
I like the Vladimir's as well coming out from Y. He's like, you know what, I got two auto-attack
cores, basically three with a Mars.
Hying up this middle lane.
Collapses sat behind Yatro, in fact the entire team is.
The Vici gaming are redding themselves.
If they see anything on these two observer wars, Shiro and Planet are ready to make that immediate jump.
Yeah, Aegis is expiring in 30 seconds so Spirit realizing they don't get anything
in that little window trying to exploit the last remaining moments of that
double life SF and then go back to farming the next item. Yeah, get the
spell amp on this tier 4 neutral. The idol of Skrökk is a funny one as well.
Faced movement and slow resistance, I mean you can't slow the tiny at all, it's
this guy come running
for now a little bit of calm
Sven having his full satanic and datalus going for a swift blink next
he's gonna get pretty mobile once he gets a swift blink
because that's been one of his problems for now, he's been kited pretty well
and uh...
getting swift blink you see that extra bit of movement speed on the jump
Make sure Lyle doesn't get his hands on that shield, Rune.
Don't want to be dealing with a like 10k HP tiny.
Vici Gaming just looking to sit at their observer boards,
kind of expecting Team Spirit to be playing forward in a dead-even game,
where there's nothing in the net worth-wise, and 18 kills to 18.
I think Vici just want to keep dragging it out.
Like we mentioned very early in the game,
we think that they have a very nice late game.
Net worth being completely even,
I would still say that Vici are happy to drag it out even further, whereas Team Spirit, they're gonna make a power play.
It's just a few minutes or like one minute away, perhaps depending on the GPM as Yattaro needs a thousand gold for a satanic.
I think once he has that, he can stand in manfights. Right now, it's a little bit scary to go into a fight and if you get locked in place,
sniper starts shooting you and you don't have Aegis, don't have a satanic, you're just gonna fall.
Yeah, we Team Spirit have always been one of the best teams in these mid to late game
or just late game team fights, whether they're able to find some kind of positional advantage
and then kite things out, right?
They poke for BKBs, poke for spells, reset, fall back, go for the second round, yeah,
fighting.
But when Vici Gaming have Sniper, Mars, Phoenix, these heroes that can actually gap close on
you and keep chasing, it's not as easy to just reset Naga Song, say, okay, back up and
go again.
Yeah, a lot of times when we cast at this stage of the game, I sit here and I say how a team needs to come back with what they need to do.
Honestly, Team Spirit, they are the masters at this, so I'm kind of not leading or saying what I think they should do.
I'm seeing this as an instructional moment for myself and everyone.
Just pay attention to what Team Spirit are doing because they're really, really good at these spots.
You can see the lines being drawn. Yattaro is saying that, okay, I want to cut through on top.
They're showing the tiny only.
That could just be a tiny split pushing, but they're all in the area.
I think we might see... Do they have a smoke right now?
They do have a smoke on Naga.
She's got the blink A on Disks too, so catching Naga is not going to be valid.
Naga is split pushing mid with her illusions as well, so this is a hard smoke to see coming.
Shiro...
Oh...
We committed this blink.
Dangerous...
Can we get the stun on him?
They're going to roll up with collapsed Loll Stars.
They get the stuns, chain disabled, wreck him, Carlos.
The BKB got strength up, still being clicked by the SF, he's on the run.
In comes the Marsman, he's collapsed on by this Pango, couldn't get the read-off in time, so Yatarouk, the birthday boy, gets a double kill.
So I'm gonna start him now to find new targets, collapse on Yatarouk on the Phoenix, why in trouble a triple for Yatarouk, look for the Ultras there for him as well.
One more, all he needs, one more, but the Shadow Jarvan, he won't be giving that gift to him today.
That's why they're the goat scarlet, that's why I don't say anything, right?
I just let Team Spirit show you the beauty of how they solved this difficult situation, their pango, their pango.
That was a really nice jump, the tiny getting in there.
Even though they didn't really get the chainstone combination, the BKB was out from this van, it did not matter.
They held him long enough, the SF has crazy damage output, like we mentioned earlier with the Daedalus build.
And now everyone is dead for so long, there's no buyback.
We're at 2 grand for the SF, a 6k swing, they're on high ground with double countables coming in.
Pango is going to go hunting and fishing in the back as well, there are no buyback tables.
So it's Shadow Shaman against the world for the better part of 30 seconds.
It's going to be at least two lanes, is what it's looking like, and Tiny is even starting on bottom.
Look at Laurel, he recognizes that you know what, we might turn this into even more, he's going to open up the bottom lane so it's an option for him to keep pushing.
They're just so good at this. Finding their moments, yes it's difficult for them to push high ground, but if they kill four heroes it makes it that much simpler.
The game was dead even, like a minute ago it feels like.
Literally nothing in it.
Yeah, just one and a half minute ago it was dead even though it was 15,000 gold lead. They win an absolutely monumental mental fight, take everything and give them nothing.
14k lead, double damage rune, gonna be bottled by Yataro.
That's a nice one too he's got the level 25 talent the shadow races do a ton of damage now
They could even get the Daedalus procs in there, you know
Don't mind if you have to throw swaggers the way he's played this game
Casual 1200 damage from the shadow race
That's the physical part only
Mars refresher on cooldown for about a minute
He's got this side of the vice, but he won't have the double round of spells which Vici Gaming do rely on.
How do Vici solve this? It's really tricky. You can't go on the Naga first because of the A on this.
She's going to survive.
Lol.
He smoke breaks and they've not figured out where he is.
He's so sneaky.
Feeling confident to just sit there.
He knew that Naga will blink and save him if they go on him, right?
He's probably going to be fine.
He's just a tree.
Wagga.
That's true.
I mean, he does blend with the environment, Karroth.
He's got a better ghillie suit than Sniper does.
The perfect camouflage.
The bitchy gaming smoked.
They're trying to make a wraparound. They don't have a fresh on Mars yet.
He's gonna break his smoke. Panto in position.
He freezes like a doll.
It's like a deer in headlights.
Panto sends illusions and sees planet now.
The jump from Long is immediate, on the shadow charm, I'm looking to blow him up.
Taking out the game as Barc comes in with Arena, wanting the hoodbink for the son of Siren.
Sones the support down while Jatharra goes mano-mano with his spin.
Oh, dang it, go! Shiro set to the deck Barc with another Arena, BKB TP.
Get the hell out of here, boys. We're cooked!
A super nervous Sunray's come, but Gigi's cool. We knew that was on its way.
A team spirit. Take game one.
They make it look so easy. These combos are not trivial. Throwing the Naga Swarm into a perfectly timed SF Vol2 with Kaya Yasha, with Naga cancelling the Vol2 early. These are not trivial combos to make happen, but they were so damn clean with it.
Just such a snappy turnaround as well as classic Team Spirit fashion. All they need is to look for one fight, swing the game, get a massive advantage and pummel their opponents into the ground.
I cannot wait to see that moment again in the replay because that was hype. It is
not very often that you see something so perfectly smoothly timed. That was
crazy, especially in the combo that we don't see every day. But the whole game
was a treat to watch. And we're already starting. I believe with the
Yeah, this is a pretty good play. This is a good fight for Spirit, right, the pangor play.
Like the idea where Spirit utilising their tools is buying time, you got solo on the
south side of the fight, collapse on the top side of the fight, and you know, it's, uh, yeah.
If collapse doesn't step up in this position, we are going to be talking about, oh, they're
too gaming, we're this feminist sniper, look at them go, but no, yeah, just Spirit individually,
just really showing in different fights how good they are. I mean, this fight looks pretty bad,
There's like a Naga with like 10% health on a pango basically 1v3 in the fight and he does it
He wins this fight by himself for this whole team dead
I think that's definitely set up the mid game just to be super team spirit favorite the early game could have been
It was kind of going either way, but this was like the second this happened. It was
Hey, look at me look at me
I'm doing this in with just for you man and and the end of the game right spirit
I'll say the end of the game, but you find this friend like this spirit
already done. It's over. The fight is done. Like the whole
Richard gaming construct of the lineup is they need to be
the ones finding the fight first. They need to be explosive.
They need to like kill the Naga or kill the SF or kill
somebody very quickly during this fence. Oh, I'd be to be
timing but I didn't really feel that damage scaling
throughout the entire game. Those moments for Sven was able
to step up but as the game progressed, it was like, yeah,
Sven just couldn't keep up with what Spirit had. We didn't get
it. It happened too close to the G. I know. I I I put in the
request but it might be. Oh my gosh. Maybe we're saving it to rewatch it like four times at the
very end. In slow mo 50 times in a row. To be fair it was so buttery smooth. It really was.
So expiring the requiem. It's like that's what you normally go for but it normally doesn't really
happen that smoothly. But there was only one undoubted MVP gunner. It has to be pango. It has
to be collapsed. I think there was only one fight. I want to say that was a bit like oh the pango
looks okay like maybe pangos to nerf and after that one fight it was every single fight he was
disrupting the phoenix he was disrupting the marge in the arena he was forcing the sun to have to
early bkb just to do damage and then the roll lasts really long now it's been buffed i think it's
12 seconds and it's like he's he makes a bkb that he rolls in a circle then he doesn't wait to click
oh oh there we go that's pause this is important this is very important this is very important this
song hold hold here you see this man fight it's just man fight scary and now
your death is sealed yeah that's just cool that's just cool it's also because
the so the SF has the kai yasha so it's like even changes of the cast point
because yeah all these strategy players with the record you probably have 800
games or something it feels like with this one specific record like it takes
this amount of time and you have maybe like 40 games 50 games with the increased
But at the time that with the Naga song which also has like a delay
It's like a very kind of hard window to hit and they hit it perfectly
Yeah, it's uh, it's I mean that was beautiful obviously, but at that point already
It was already the writing on the wall that spirit was
Yeah, that was just like the chair on top. Yeah, it was a good cherry. Yeah, we appreciate those
This is like for for the two gaming though
I don't think they should be too disarmed because when you rewatch this game
There's moments where it's like if you positioned in a slightly different way where there's like the top fight the first clip
We saw Mars had the refresher, but he only got one arena off right?
And what if he got the double arena off and then you you killed here as quicker and then pangalia was maybe fighting three
Heroes or four heroes rather than just being two right? I feel like for video gaming
It's just clean up a little bit of that mid game choice and it's gonna be fine
Yeah, they definitely have a good
Shot of coming back now one of the heroes they picked up very early is the Mars of course and and we
We do want to just compare the off-painting for this one because we did have high expectations coming from behind
He did make a lot of moves in that early game and they really tried hard to make it happen
Yeah, you know, I just mentioned the refresher
This is after like of course the the fight that we saw top that kind of the epic collapse moment
And you just gonna have to compare the idea of like constant pressure applied Pangelae with
Diffusal basher agg the octarin he was very fortunate to pick up due to the ultra kill or whatever
But like these are the items that I think you forget about because Pango isn't played when you get all of this like the all four items
You are just a menace in any fight right you're burning manner
You're gonna be bashing a spend during a BKB like all the little things will add up to a shadow theme being able to play his positioning or
Naga hitting a song so even the fun thing is I think it's a 20
You get a clue on town for your jump and it goes down to 4.5
I believe that's before octavine
So I think it goes down to like 3.6 second cooldown or something role play old pango
Yeah, and you have that permanently because in the past you only have this like really short cooldown during your old
But I think you're constantly getting these like tiny barriers you're constantly burning more. You actually burn more mana now
He's like way better at this skirmishing
It's kind of style of like slowly dealing damage slowly winning damage as opposed to just oh, I have a thousand health barrier
Like I'm just tanky, but that's it's like SF has the 25 talent to play on his raise and then Pangolin has his 20
So it's like there are some concepts, but it's very like scaling concepts. Yeah, so if you let them scale
they're gonna do this. Yeah, and they will try to do that again in game two of
course. Viki Gaming is gonna try to stop them. Let's see if they can after a break.
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Skeeter, today we're going to be ranking the other carries here.
Worst is five, best is one.
You're allowed to pick yourself.
Thought processes on this.
Who are you thinking about?
Who's number five?
Okay, number one, number five is going to go to Shiro,
because he made Marcy look good on day one.
Okay.
Hard to do and make Marcy look good.
Where's your Marcy at?
I don't play the hero.
It's too hard for me.
too complicated yeah the anime hero what can you do all right how about number
four thing with number four we'll go with Mickey because he's on the roll now
again is that like a respect thing you have to give it to Mickey you know yeah
I think so he's been in the scene for some time and you know he plays very
similar to me as well so so nothing to do with skill then you got it there okay
all right now let's go number three what do you think number three I'll go with
because he won against us yesterday and there's no list without the author right?
okay I won't even have a snarky remark for that one you gotta have the author
alright number two okay number two is my boy Parker
oh there we go well like yes so like anytime he's in here there's like a
chance the guy's gonna pop off again and there's always some content when he's
present so absolutely okay I'm sure Parker would choose you as well do you
think you would? who knows the guy is wild alright number one the best carry
here you're allowed to pick yourself but that be lame yeah you can do number one I
have to pick heritage okay Marlene loves him so much and put some respect on
his name all right well what a respectable man so bias non-biased excuse
me so humble it doesn't even put himself on a list incredible job sir I have to
agree looks beautiful
That was a great list by Skeeter, both Shiro and Yutaro respected, and the Marcy of course
mentioned, and I need to mention it here again because this first game that we saw between
Team Spirit and Vici Gaming, Shadowfiend was let through, and generally we've seen Vici
Gaming go for that Marcy or the Windranger to counter it.
Now Team Spirit knows this, they banned it out, and then we still had the Shadowfiend
making it through and I feel like the answer for it wasn't there there was
the Ursa that I think was available all the way through even the sandpeck I
think it'd have been the Ursa so they could have had better options but I
don't know I I definitely think that it wasn't necessarily just a peer drafting
I think it's okay to take the Mars for the Shreddavan trade I think that's
probably like one of the best ones okay so maybe the sniper was the mistake if
we're gonna talk about the draft I mean we're soon gonna talk about the draft
because Game 2, of course, is soon coming our way.
But if you are going to replace the sniper,
what are you replacing it with?
Because they picked up Tiny very early on,
but we had to also respect the fact
that Tiny could get flexed elsewhere.
So you have to pick a mid that can
deal with a multitude of heroes.
I would just personally suggest Ember.
Sure, there's like three scenarios.
The Tiny goes mid, Ember's really, really happy.
There's a Shadowfiend goes mid, which Ember is a bit sad, but I think even in this tournament we've seen Phoenix's, Gank Shadowfiend's pretty successfully.
Also, they could have picked a different hero to Gank mid even better, instead of like their site.
They could have paired another hero to Ember, and then the final option is like they get some random like 18 house guard,
and then the tiny ends up being a support, and it gets like, it makes the draft a bit awkward.
I think that would be potentially scary, but Ember is just such a good hero.
I think it's just fine to just pick it in that
Slot in the draft. I'm gonna take a couple steps back. I'm gonna look towards the lago band. Oh, okay
Okay, so lago of course
Broken hero pros think you everyone thinks it once you hit your item times you are a insane hero. Yeah
But collapses a player that likes to try and play into the lane be a little bit of a nuisance, right?
Especially with the pango pick other heroes you can do it too. He's been saying Slot off there as well
like you always think about the name. Largo, you don't play into lane, you kind of play backwards,
that you shove wave, go to some camps. So if I know I'm putting collapse on this type of hero
for at least 15 minutes of the early game, I would like to think then I can play into mid,
pressure, I can go through the twin gate, pressure the shadow theme, carry whatever here. So maybe
giving away a Largo could be an option. Try to come in lane, make the Largo play come back.
You have to of course play very clean. A couple mistakes, Largo will take over any game, right?
But just the idea of putting collapse on a farming hero from the first pick feels good
But giving a flexibility of a shadow feed a flexibility of a beast master the overall openess of back riding tree in the lanes
I respect those bands so for me lago. It's like unless you're against like liquid who really utilizes it nicely
Maybe thunder as well
Maybe give it away
Forced to play styles of these but like star players to do things. They naturally are
Again, he's a very good farmer of course, but I don't want him to be able to kill in the lane. That's the main thing.
I remember I asked it, because I considered DM to be a similar style of offlaner as Collapse, and I asked DM about it, because he played Largo in the game that they won the group stages with.
And he said like, it's just too good, you have to play it, and they all know how to play it anyway.
The problem with what I said as well is like, you give away the Largo, you make a mistake, you don't kill the Largo in lane, you don't kill the mid, you don't kill the carry.
kill the carry, you will very quickly get reminded that giving away lago can also be
your biggest downfall, right? It's the equivalent of giving a TA to Parker, you know? Like,
you don't want to do that. So, of course, if you're gaming, they don't change anything.
And neither does Team Spirit. So, and Team Spirit, if they want Shadowfiend, we're
up the boy can have it again, with all his presence and everything.
Do you think they have a pro... like, do you think they promote Pangelae to a ban?
No. I think the ping is more of a response specifically to the Mars, I would say.
They pick Mars a bit at 12 rather than Central, they ban Pango here.
Sure, I think that's acceptable.
Yeah, I think that's fine.
I think the biggest thing as well though is you double down on being bad versus Pango
with the sniper pick.
Yeah, true.
Like, Sniper doesn't like a BKB hero rolling constantly out of him in the fights.
He has to buy his own BKB.
He doesn't really get to free hit.
I really think that this one ban is just so hard for second pick.
There's like so many different things you have to think about.
You have to think about like their 14-15 response, like what is super good versus 9-13.
You have to think about their 18 pick.
I think this ban is like a really, really complicated ban, which it's like so funny.
It's like just this one ban probably has so much thought behind it.
They do end up in the panga.
So I think that's fine as long as they do not pick the sniper again.
I think that I genuinely think that that was a very kind of a blunder and that's an XM sniper
I want to believe in him. I think it's good
But pick something a little more active
I mean they're already kind of showing that with the Warlock pick of course spirit made us minor adjustment for going for the Phoenix band last
Sunday band cares when you take the Warlock you're happier to pick at any carry blind because Warlock will kind of hold the carries
right like I you can do any lane, so I think in victory gaming are kind of
I'm following the path of what we're talking about, of the spirit that you're walking.
We're running back.
The same path.
The same path.
Honestly, I don't mind.
What are you going to pick next?
It's the hoodwink potentially.
Yeah.
Okay.
But I don't know what happened to my voice there.
The hell just happened.
Hello.
Hi.
La la la la la.
The ring fan.
Hi.
No, yeah, maybe.
Ring master.
Whatever.
Back to you guys.
I don't want to talk anymore.
I'm tough.
It's so good.
they do even opt to go for their pause for here I think it's good yeah I think
you just run it back like they can I don't see a reason to change up the
draft that the warlock plays a very similar role as the Phoenix so it ends
up just being like if they're picking these next thing here is you just kind
of want a game pretty easily so pick the same things I kind of agree with what
he was saying earlier about the warlock and what it enables so I think here you
you can take Ursa, just take it now, make sure that it doesn't get banned in this next phase,
you're more likely to secure the lane, even if it ends up getting counterpicked, I don't
think there's anything crazy, because Collapse does, the heroes you're playing aren't necessarily
good into the Ursa, so take the Ursa here, take some random Paws 4 that's really strong.
What happened to like the Paws 4 Void they were doing, right, you're throwing in a dilation
against Fedwink and trying the early game, like all of the heroes want to play on the
cheap spell?
I think Void Ursa could be decent here, but I don't know if I've never thought I'd talk about one thing to see plus
Like when you see that you then want to have like the Beast Masters the Queens like the random other heroes to utilize the time zone
Okay, good to the ember. Yeah, that's the other solution. It was either you take the Ursa here
You take the ember. Yeah, I'm happy with this again
Basically the only concern is if there ends up being some Huskar on 18, which I wouldn't say that's Laurel's like specialty
Yeah, he's somewhat honest mid laner. Yeah, he's like a he's a good face
I appreciate that he wins through not needing cheese, but
And they do lift the ring must okay cool. So the hero was I think it's kind of like the
The changes that we were hoping for kind of ended up happening
Yep for the future so it already looks and I think it's just gonna play out a bit better in the game
I don't I honestly don't think spirit's gonna dodge this match up the tiny ember even like it's really bad for the tiny
I think they're gonna accept it and probably just pick you pick collapse is here here and
I
Always think of tide whenever I see warlock and ember would you pick your off-laner here?
I guess they do with the slaughter this could be their myth to true
It could be the tiny fives and the slaughter mid
Which is pretty nice because it makes the band anytime you have this like weird kind of like you know pseudo flex
It doesn't matter for teams here. It's just the 18 to balance. Yeah, exactly. So it's like two spirit
They might have picked a starter and said this starter should start off later like no no thoughts
But what am I talking about? What if this is not in this? Yeah, but but in terms of for Vici
It's like oh well sorry can go mid but we need to ban this or maybe it's gonna often
We might need to ban a huskard
It just makes these two bands much more likely to miss because these here probably already knows his double pick
It's like they want Slardar clockwork, right?
But now that the Slardar has got picked first instead of the clockwork
It's way harder to hit the second band and the identity for its draft is very similar to the previous game
Even though there's not a panglia slaughter plays the same way you jump in with no care to your own life
You're looking for information. So I can't itemize to be tanky
Panglia has rolled you have so BKB your
Insert any kind of utility item that he likes even like the stacking minus armor is the same
Like Henry you have lucky shots you minus over there with the shadow theme this you even better just single target corrosive haze
I do appreciate the
Respect on the Naga siren. It looks very good. It looks very even outside of that one combo
just the whole game the the amount of fight resets there'd be like a song and then the egg would pop
and the phoenix would instantly slept and then they just jumped the phoenix right after or just
like cutting out the fights it just always looked good it was always like a timer on the bkbs uh
kind of like what malan said in his interview where he was like a few months ago this was the god
combo you could never allow a team to get shadow fiend naga and now everyone forgot about naga it
got nerfed but it's still a good combo they still lane very well together they kind of
fix each other's issues.
Especially if you're going up against the Mars Warlock, which have a team fight, and Ringmaster also.
I mean, that's the joy of Dota when supports actually get later picks.
They're not just forced into Warlock, Drakiro, you know, Tree every game, like that.
Supports can also dictate a lot of the...
I have a kind of bold pick, which doesn't make sense because of this team event,
but it could be Darkseer for Team Spirit.
And you can lane with the Hoodring or the Tiny, either one.
And you put the Sardar mid versus Ember, which is a decent matchup.
He buys Auras, he'll buy a pipe to kind of sustain through the random warlock damage,
and then even just the surge is really nice with the warlock in the mid late game.
Like, let your SF actually kite.
I was leaning towards Underlord Doom, but Underlord doesn't really make sense for a
Turblade Band. That wouldn't really be a thing that you're going for.
I could also see the Doom.
Or Auras make-
I want someone to build a pipe, I think, and Sardar doesn't-
sure they can put the tiny mid and mix it up. I just really would like them to dodge the tiny
amber matchup. That's my main concern. So if you go for like Doom Timber, let's move down that line.
You can just walk into every fight. You don't have our amber. The supports look at you like we
can't waste spells on this like key focal initiator. And if we do, slot our hoodwink tiny ago.
Thank you very much. We can now initiate correctly. So I kind of want collapse just to be on a
a dude that walks up high grounds has like one or two cheap items again, or is that you're mentioning
through pipe it could be through itemization of like kaya sand you
have a timbersaw or a lotus whatever but i think for spirit to simplify their
game Collapsus needs to be on like the tanky guy that is happy to
doze off if that is of course slalom to mid lane we have kind of focused more on
Collapsus hero but slalom needs to be off lane and we kind of miss the read and
loss that's got a new mid hero there's tide hunter too for off lane which is
which is really nice for C-Ember.
There's a lot of options that stay.
They can kind of go any direction.
So if we want to talk about, I guess, mids that they could pick for C-Ember,
what would be maybe the storm?
I think it could be okay.
I would like the Greed's build on storm for C-Ember.
I think that one is just really nice matchup.
It gives them even more jump, and the supports of Vici don't really deal with an Ember.
In the previous game, we had Vici banning out the Chen at the last phase,
to want to go for support route? It could be okay. Fuck, so different mid laner. Yeah.
So Dodger, I'm very happy. I think this tiny ember matchup is really, really bad. You can't
break the shield, he buys vessel, he out ceases you in the lane, you have zero armor, like
everything about it just kind of feels bad from the Chinese perspective. So picking puck,
which isn't necessarily good for somebody in the lane, like you're picking a losing lane
matchup technically, but good game. Exactly, the game is so free, right? Like you don't
care, like you're going to bait out on Mars Arena at some point, you'll disengage. Now
Viki Gaming has gone, uh oh, we need to deal with the puck, of course. DK into puck, you
have instant stun, into shadow fiend, you can go for the one on one fight, you're not
sure how to buy BKB, so you don't care about requiem, as long as you get Daedalus at right
timing with a blink dagger, and you're making clean jumps, it's good, but I think my fear
for Vicky gaming is DK Sven they can play the same way and how Vicky gaming
played the mid to late game of the last one she didn't always find that clean
jump it wasn't like I've got you you're dead there was a lot of kiting so
spirit continue this kite game it could be the same story we have the tiny then
go in position four so we have the the hook wink as the five is that the way
Did you think they're gonna lane it as well?
It doesn't really I think both can do the same thing
Okay, it depends on like I think tiny going with shadow thing
Makes sense. It's because of the melee range, but there's a world where I've heard of it
What's the kite and poke every month to give
A different perspective
I think the best thing to do against warlock lanes is pull with a melee four also true
So putting the tiny there is enabling more
The anti warlock and then they're probably assuming the hood wings gonna be like
Well, 50-50 lane with shadow fiend like it'll be okay. You can probably trade
Acceptably into the ring master, but I would be surprised if it's lanes whops
look at some more opinions here with garras and
Well, I got on the board garras my question. You think that yatoro got what he wanted for his birthday
Oh, yeah, absolutely. God ask he was super close to having a rampage as well
It was like so close to him having a birthday rampage would be beautiful and maybe this game this day
You're gonna you're gonna build it up slowly, you know
What do you get for your last
birthday, Waga? My last birthday.
I don't know. I don't get
anything exciting in Dota.
Dota just gives me grief. Lots of
life. Do you do you win more in
your birthday? Yes or no? Yes.
Yes. I do feel like it's
actually a little bit lucky.
Yeah. There's a birthday.
The birthday. Let's see if it's
a play here as well with Team
Spirit and Viki. Here we go.
is best of three in the upper bracket at PGL Valakia as we'll figure out exactly how good
the Shadowfiend hero is because he has been one of the most contested so far and ViciGaming
is saying well, Yattaro, one of the best carries in the world, can have it two games in a row.
This is game number 90 in the Valakia season 7 and 88 times he has been contested. Out
of that he's been played 24 times. This is game number 25, we'll see if he can make that
a win. Obviously SF looking pretty phenomenal, but I do want to highlight I think Vici Gaming
got a very nice last pick into this game. The Dragonite was a snap pick, they didn't
think about it for too long. They basically picked it within 20 seconds of seeing the
puck and they're like, yep, this will counter the puck. It also fits really well into their
own draft. They have a lot of big team vitalities. Dragonite adds pushing potential and he's
a high armor hero that doesn't get completely destroyed by SF right kicks immediately.
That's true.
Well, if he's going to fight on the big old sticker that's placed down in the river there.
What are the bottom words?
It says crit. I don't know what the rest of it says.
But it's got Yattaro as a phantom assassin, right?
It's a PA.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's a damage, I guess.
I'm not sure if it's a reference to something.
It's landing crit.
Yeah, I don't know what the translation is.
I'll look at that later on.
But there we go.
Ex-Sem against Laurel, Ember Spirit versus Puck.
Two of the best mid-lane heroes in this matter.
Meta, lots of elusive spells, lots of damage every time, mid lane matchup between these two, not amazing for Puck but Gunner was saying that in the game overall, Lyral should have a pretty free time.
He should but it's all concerning when you play against Ember and you pick a hero that he basically counters in laning stage as Ember is already the most dominant mid hero in my opinion in this patch.
patch, so you don't want to give him any better game that he already will have. Up top, by
the way, good start for T-Spirit, first creep wave, they zoned out the Mars immediately,
standing before the creeps arrived and touched, they triple raised the Mars, forcing him to
go back a little bit and heal. Panto on the hoodwink.
Looking for a few of these little swap rounds, we were trying to figure out at the end of
that draft what direction they were going to go in. I end up putting your Roo on the
tiny Laurel in this park swapping things around that way because there was that
consideration of like a Huskar versus the Ember Spirit some other options to go
down but in the end it's double range top lane and then double melee bottom.
Yeah I think the reasoning is that Hoodwing normally wants to win the 1v1
harass trade and you can't really do that against Warlock anyway so might as
well put the tiny here and get a chance for toss back into chain stunning and
meanwhile up top the Hoodwing will trade better against the ringmaster than the
a tiny wood.
Right.
Hoodwing must have whittled you down, right?
And Shadow Word says that's not happening.
Yeah.
Whereas Tiny can toss back into tower, into creeps, into slaughter's crush, much more
burst potential.
It's also armor.
Dragon Knight does not care about Hoodwing's damage.
Yes.
Last game we had the abuse of Hoodwing's minus armor or damage with the minus armor of the
pango, dealing a lot of damage to a low armor Phoenix.
Now there's a Dragon Knight on that safe lane.
So yeah, play away from that, play into the ringmaster instead.
XM doing very well in this mid lane. Doubling up the last hits of LAL, 15-2 against the 8 and 0.
I think it was a very good time so far.
This is to be expected though on this lane. It is going to go the way of Ember.
You can get decent game going for the puck, but you're not going to win against Ember mid.
Planet and back up top, lane going to be pushed into them.
Shadowbeam just naturally shoves out that wave, and they do have access to both of their camps
when they spawn, so Panther should be able to reset equilibrium.
Yep.
Hard for Planet to go up and body block any of that.
Meanwhile, down bottom, the Dragonant is doing a good job just standing his ground.
Basically, unharassable, I think, for these two.
Nice bind onto everything there.
My fatal bombs are always annoying as well.
Tan you up and keep you low HP.
Force you to burn through a lot of that early lane regen.
That's very hard for the Slaughterer to keep his HP up high. He has one bracer, but out of tangles needs to send out more of a seed in his quick buy already.
He does have a salve on the courier right now and a bracer coming in, so use the salve and get quick fold.
Rue, with a tossback on the tower though, even with a very low, they're committing for this.
Tower damage is good on Shiro, but why gets first blood?
A trait like that, who actually wins?
I think it's an unexpected kill for Team Spirit to get so it's nice for them to get something in that lane
But getting the first blood plus the Warlock book charge
I would still say it's a win over on the side of Ichi, right?
Because first blood is a big advantage and book charge the golem or the the warlock is gonna be having a very good time this game
The Grimoire grows
Planet starting to stack up in the ancients area
It's also the most come with a sentry to block it gonna be early mana boots for him because he has boots and ring a bassie already
So plenty of resources for the warlock to work with.
Cork our mord.
You sure are going to be a little bit upset dying there.
Is it meant to be a straightforward, easy breezy lane?
Yeah, it can be.
Now he's died and the lane's going to get dragged around by Rue.
It can be entirely careless.
The chain stun on the tower does hurt a lot.
Ultimately, the pack is still getting decent farm on mid lane.
As mentioned before, the Ember is farming a lot.
Push back into Raze.
Take the beast there.
See if he's out of the road back.
Pretty low on mana on the SF, but he's holding Lotus, 11-1, so there is that chance of the pop, a bunch of mana burst regen.
Keep things going.
Yeah, he's ready to deal a lot of damage.
They're trying to stack up camps as well and use the jungle to accelerate.
Actually get stack on the big M, the small camp.
Hard to contest, there's a spirit on cooldown, I guess if it's just going to get the farm here, maybe the planet can steal it. Nice whip.
I'm not even making sure a small camp doesn't get pulled easily by Panto, and Hoodwick's stepping up.
That's a scary spot to be in, even though you can't scurry into the trees. Mars and Ringmaster can offer a lot of that immediate damage.
When we got her alongside, they'll be able to grab up the wave, clear the camp and make
sure the pull is halted.
That's very nice, Vici-Mash to secure all the big camp creeps.
Easy to do.
This collapse takes quite a beating from Shiro plus the heal coming in, or the Shadow Ward
coming in.
It's pretty relentless.
We're in the sixth minute, so that active rune is approaching pretty quickly.
We've seen a lot of teams approach to this, is to send four heroes mid basically, even
carries TPing in to react. Ember Spirit has zipped down to the bottom rune spot, but he
zipped a bit early. He didn't grab the rune and now the coil snapped with a toss.
Uncapped he risked him a stake from XM there, yeah he didn't grab the regen, so Planet is like
okay I guess I'll take it, but his mid laner is gonna fall to the coil combo. How bizarre.
Very unfortunate. Collapsed in the meantime every time we do look at his bottom lane.
Very low HP and forced away from his tower.
Fatal Bomb's very irritating and Shiro now of course level 3.
And he's healing up in time though, so Slogger's healing up.
Seven minutes is coming around soon, he's going to be able to TP down there.
It's a possibility they will protect this as there was Warlock and Dragonite thinking about invading.
Emperor of course is busy with other stuff.
Yeah, farm suit, the stacks planet was making.
Yeah, level 3 and Worm's Wrath, the damage over time with all Warlock spells is pretty nasty
when you don't have any regen, right?
Slardar's not this kind of guy that goes to the tranquil boots manipulation.
He's going to get stunned up and whipped by the ringmaster.
Rube with an avalanche, the passive cost.
SF, Raccoon, there's the play with the DK, dying.
Beautiful execution out of spirit, once again showing.
This SF has so many combos.
Got a nice toss on to him there, and that's going to be a quick connection,
yet we're immediately going back towards the gates, wanting to head up back top.
Can get bothered a little bit. A whip is probably going to cancel his...
He actually walks out of the whip.
It's down to half health, but he will return to that top lane.
He's got plenty of stuff. He'll be completely fine. Pops the 20 Magic Sticks.
Still has Firefire and Healing Rovers too.
So that's a couple of deaths on Shiro.
He shouldn't have had a completely free lane, but he's, what, fourth in net worth?
Zero, two, and one? Definitely not where he would like to be.
Whereas on the flip side, Shadowfiend closing in on 4k net worth.
Racing away with things.
I think these connections as well these early moves by carries to the side lane or from the mid lane how you connect to sideline is
Basically, what signifies the great teams right now a minarune by them being guarded here
Why and planet the toss back and kill on the ringmaster and Rue they need another remnant forward
But XM can't quite connect on the tiny needs another one to gap close and finally finish the job
gets the kill is what ember needs get some some kills under his belt that
earlier death definitely set him back a little bit so gonna be nice for him to
have his supports to fight on the room with but no as I was saying we've seen
some moves where carries try and join on sideline and don't get a kill yeah if
you invest a lot of time it can be really really bad but that's where this
idea of tininess if you can just throw something onto him throw an ulti you
You know, Spirit, they make it very natural, these little combinations.
I sure do.
The Vichy Gaming, once you try and break out the little rut therein, Spirit has been the
one feeling a bit more comfortable with the pace of play.
The Collapse, very far behind his own tower and the dire scan connecting means Spirit
know exactly what's going on.
Panto will come, Face Tank, with his hero to scout them out, federally bonded to the
creep cap and zipped on by XM.
I simple kill four of them and probably gonna be able to clear out a goal on all two
Yeah, they can go on farm this if they want to he's holding it for now looking for maybe catching fuck now. He drops it
Make your log on contest. There's ancient stack and there are towers to take as well. So we'll see where he sends
It's gonna be towards the tower first
You know with all this focused bottom lane there's options for spirit
Do we bring numbers down bottom to defend or do we play up top to get a kill on back?
The latter is the option they go for while collapse is left a little alone down here.
There's an ember and a goal, let me see if you can change stuff.
Found by XM in the tree line, collapse not the easiest kill though with double bracer plus treads.
He's gonna be fine but he's definitely not having an easy time this game collapse.
His blink dagger is gonna be quite delayed because he was the same combo again.
It was a stun, intertoss and SF ulti. Rinse and repeat.
It looks like this time the rune should go to Lal, but before that he'll snipe out Planet
thanks to Rune.
Axanon got his hands on a bunch of these early runes, but Lal with a DD is an absolute threat
on the map now.
So, I mean, yes, already has the Blitz knuckles as well going for the Witchblade of course.
Get some DPS going and SF, no surprise, going for Mask of Madness wants to get some nice
farm.
I mean, it's a little bit of a surprise.
We've seen the Kayasha straight.
This game looks like he's going from Mantis-style instead of the Kaya-sha, respecting that there's a lot of stuff he wants to dispel.
Between the fatal bonds, of course, the searing chains, but even just something as simple as the impalement arts.
And when you get jumped by Dragonite, maybe you can, you know, dodge the Dragon-tail stun or at least confuse him.
Yeah, we've seen that a couple of times.
Yeah, basically an illusion, yeah.
Yatra, with his Top Tier 1 still very healthy, knows that there is unlikely to be any big
invasions in this part of the map compared to the last game where Beachy Gaming were
able to come and hunt him down a couple of times.
Taking that Offlane Tower doesn't really mean that much for collapse, you know, Slaughter
is still happy and flourishing in their bottom lane.
Yeah, he's at least getting given some space now.
I think both the Offlaners are in a bit of a recovery mode, as they are.
at the bottom of the net worth where they should be.
I will say that's a mid-carry enjoyer, yeah.
Well, bottom of the course, I should say.
And Panto, gonna scurry into the trees,
get away from XM's ember spirit.
As Vichy gaming, do bring numbers up top
to try and break open this part of the map.
We're already, you know, 11 minutes in,
we're already thinking ahead into the future.
Up 16, 17 minutes, Roshan, Tormanto,
you want this top left corner to belong to Vichy gaming.
Tiny wants to toss onto SF again.
They wanna do the same combo a third time.
And they found it open.
The arena toss into the air, war's blown up immediately.
Arena's spear does catch Panto. Rue is dropping low, but Yattaro and Larl hold the line.
Panto finished off by XM in the back.
The DD rune keeps poking with these orbs. The DD rune on Larl.
Difficult to deal with here by Vici Gaming.
SF completely fine under a tower, and that will stop the push. No coil available anymore.
Fuck, might be able to jump onto the ringmaster.
Yeah, planet left, wide open here.
Gets out the funhouse mirror.
Axem helps protect the retreat and collapse while Slotar's come in.
Also bite a visc, but it doesn't really have that initiation tool just yet.
300 gold until Slotar has blinked.
He came a long way to watch them die, but you didn't get to see it.
Unfortunately, he booked tickets and everything.
Now he's gonna have to make it back down bottom.
300 gold to his blink dagger, maybe then he can be successful in finding people setting up
He's mostly gonna play as the enabler in this team, not really the damage source
But Puck and SF can definitely shred through people if he can hold them in place
Well, he got to watch them walk away and Dragonite walking away is a beautiful sight
Dragonite might walk into a horrible sight as there's a tiny SF nearby
Hello, Outlast catches him, toggles the arm and arm, but there's tossing to Requiem
Massive damage from the Razer's Shiro's cleared out by Team Spirit again, finding these openings.
I mean, that's just textbook, right? That literally looked like a video example of,
oh, you can use this combo like this.
It's like, yep.
Yeah, that's gonna kill the Dragonite.
I do make a jump in the mid lane.
Wheel of Wanda hypnotizes the hoodwink.
Shadowfume's coming in, though, and the coil on XM ending.
Ember Spirit has remnants. He's fine.
Zips away in time.
But they're making a good point on T-Spirit of defending these tier 1s, not giving them away for free.
Even the top tower being poked by Bach, we see Rue coming up and just saying,
No, no, no, don't get to take the tower for free.
Slowing down the advances of Vichy, because when you're playing Warlock and Dragonite,
you expect to take a lot of towers early.
We're 14 minutes in, and yeah, they cracked one tower, but the other two are relatively healthy
for what I would have expected at this pace of the game, or point of the game.
Yeah, it can be a little bit of a problem during this period as well, relying on this
Mars and Ringmaster to do a lot of the heavy lifting to Ember Spirit.
Along with those two, the majority of their ganking power, well DK must be farming stacks,
Rue looking to steal the wisdom shrine.
He's going to get surrounded here, Bark and Planet came in time, but he's got a 12-tp.
Yeah, they used both of the disables, but not perfect.
And they collapse!
He's off of the warlock! Should be a solo kill here, is why he gets pummeled by the slaughter!
The slaughter doesn't run out of disables, just keep pummeling away at that poor warlock.
And the vision does see the Ember.
The Ember also saw the hoodwink, still sees him, so I'm not gonna be able to catch him.
Finally, they cracked that tier one tough.
A good tower take for them.
Oh, not all of Panto.
In a very good spot here.
We see them groupin', it's like fighting duos.
We have the same thing, the groupings here.
It's like in the military, they tell you you have your battle partner.
The Tignium, the SF, that's the pairing.
That's the thing, VGK need to bring the whole battalion.
It feels like they need these trios or even the quartet to actually do anything.
Yeah, I agree. They are very strong in team fight scenarios.
Like we mentioned earlier, three big teamfight ulties and they want to utilize the Dragonite during these, but when it's just scrappy fights all over the map, it's a little bit harder for them to react to it. Warlock, of course, easy to get caught out, like we saw with Slardar earlier.
And every kill the Spirit gets, it's not just a little kill, it's the map space they get after, it's the five jungle camps they get in addition to the farm they're getting on the lane that's pushed the Shadowfiend up to 9000 net worth, DK set at 7000.
I was like mentioning which team I think gets favored, you know, going late games on ball.
He's just building up four kills now.
And Seth's feeling pretty good about himself, of course, growing more and more of the necro stacks.
Another gift for the birthday boy.
That's why they're doing the combo, so you can ship him some fast food.
That's so nice of him.
Express delivery.
Tumblr's toy, get some mobility.
Mantastar at the same time.
And Ragnar has Armlet Mask of Madness, you know, pretty good for farming,
getting a bit of tempo going, but free BKB still feels a little sad.
And we're not gonna run into Tiny walking around him actually as Tiny stays in the trees where it's safe
Planet might see him, but not yet
And yeah, finally the observer on the lane will reveal that Radiant are indeed playing top
So they're gonna be complete fine
I was trying to make a point earlier
But it's always good to think about which team is favorite going late and here
I think it's a pretty clear favorite the dire is scaling really really well
The SF is gonna get very strong puck scales incredible into late game, especially if you have bad heroes to catch him
You don't have terrible use to catch a puck, but mind you, Buck did not go Jules, and Dragon Knights doesn't have a blink yet.
So for now, Buck is pretty hard to catch. They will need to itemize to solve Puck, because Ringmaster and Warlock do not catch a puck.
Now, it's pretty free.
And you also always got to worry, as Vici Gaming, about the objective-taking capabilities of Spirit,
Especially Roshan with his collapsed Slardar and the Shaddafiend in Nathro's hands.
And one-fourth kill could lead into the pit.
Right now Spirit though playing his bottom lane with collapsed Impanto poking and VG Gaming.
They will bring a response down here with an arena sphere, catching the hoodwink in the back
and of course the Ember Spirit dealing with collapsed at the front.
Double kill for XM.
Heh heh, catching hoodwink in the back.
Nice there by Mars, sneaking around.
But yeah, getting punished for farming a little bit too close to the lane.
Two heroes lost, but still Team Spirit are the ones looking to make something happen with InvisRune on SF, planet standing very still right now!
Oh no! Even stiller now!
Eh, he won't be moving again. Not a muscle.
30 seconds of silence from the ringmaster.
Exit stage left.
Coil is still available, they're thinking they can burst the Ember. I think they can.
There's no saving ability anymore.
any more.
Leningriff spent, but there's a coil, avalanche toss, snap coil, into the damage.
That's an unstoppable streak, so that's another 550g for Yataro, 12k net worth, 19 minutes
in.
And while it's worth talking about the combos they've been doing with SF, this is the second
time they use the toss out of coil combo as well.
So you toss someone out of a coil, it snaps the coil, extra damage, they're stunned when
they land, it's really really nice.
It really is clean textbook stuff isn't it, like every time they go somewhere they find
target they execute their spells they perfectly get the kill. Yeah, no it's been very impressive
and it looks a little bit clunky from Vici right now they have this super strong teamfight draft
I haven't been given a big teamfight they got smoke and try and contest Roche but aren't they in
time? Wait five seconds for Ember Vici getting lead is 5v5 DK makes the first move with the
wheel of wonder on the pot Roche and Daphne picks up Aegis and she arose in the pit dying
Your DK's gone. The fatal bombs are good but you've got no follow-up.
Now Barc has a renaissance, a collapse! The three-man crush!
Defense Verena needed from Barc, but Laurel's on top of his Mars now.
The Slardar will survive through it all and Team Spirit running roughshot over VG Gaming!
There will be a bling soon, Tiny coming in?
They're diving, of course they are! A toss forward! Puts this warlock on top of Laurel.
Finish off Y, collapse comes in again, gives him an ultra kill!
I mean, it's the birthday buff, Gareth. What can I say, is there a way to get here?
Teesprit are looking so damn dominant, and I'm the one thinking, okay, they're gonna maybe lose early game,
maybe struggle a bit against the big ultis, definitely gonna lose all their towers before minute 12 or something, right?
None of these things were true. They're not losing early game. They didn't lose their towers early, and they are
9,000 gold ahead at 20 minutes.
None of this was in the script, Gareth.
It's just incredible.
Yeah, Tiny again with the Toss in on the Dragonite.
Like, look at that, he gets so far out of position,
ulted up by the slaughter as well.
He just melts.
You blink in and then you get tossed in.
You just travel 3,000 range away from the rest of your team.
Bark is here saying, my ult is on cooldown
for three seconds, boys.
What are we doing?
Just report Ringmaster for not saving you.
He should have had like two blink daggers at this point.
Yeah, he should have refreshed blinked after you, you know.
Where's my global box?
First he escaped back.
First nine class with the acronym SEPTA.
Incredible chase forward as well.
Like collapse, running around on 200 health,
knowing the limits, really playing on the very edge.
Yeah, look at it.
It looks a bit sheepish there, you know,
taking the kills wherever you're at.
Oh, I have a few words.
I think he felt pretty good about the crush he got there,
catching a lot of heroes.
Well, and then he just smoked up from spirit.
Three minutes on ages.
11K lead, feeling hot here in K2.
Don't do it, why?
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
He's got, so he's a warlock, he needs to push the wave, he wants to cast his spells.
Of course he does.
Tiny gets killed with the toss.
I think Yathor is completely fine with it though, as long as he keeps getting bigger and bigger, all this experience, gold...
You can basically go wherever you want as well.
Well according to GLaD, you know, winning tournaments, what matters.
Yathor are probably thinking just about winning the game.
Yeah, trophies, but winning the game is how you get trophies. It's a matter of getting there.
One series at a time.
Bach trying to get to that BKB can also steal the Wisdom Shrine with his major catch up time for Vici Gaming right now.
They're farming enemy side of the map trying to find any little pockets of farm they can find.
Yeah, at least Bach is very close. He's gonna have it just now, like 40 golds he will have BKB complete.
Dragonite desperately needs his though. That's the bigger issue. We've seen him get absolutely just repositioned and demolished.
90%
We've had some pretty wild win probability predictions from the O plus this one seems pretty accurate
This one I might actually be in line with yeah, I would say nine times out of ten
You know the team that's got disadvantage early on with this draft should be winning
But if anyone can come back, you know pro players are very capable of making coordinated moves
They have the tools on beachy
But it's like a tight rub act right life is hell for the two supports. Yeah, it's that down to XM to scout
Back to start the fight Dragonite to dish the damage while two supports are you know
Kind of twiddling their thumbs playing from folk and they are not allowed to wait around because SF just laying into that mid tower
Seaching up quickly
Tumbles up to high ground
Is pinned against the tower as box spears him get from the BKB in first life from Yathrow's death
The coil hiding the back with the coil next to him the tossed up and coiled out the arena here
those gonna defend the base, Nietzsche gaming. They'll rip up Team Spirit and blow up Tiny and Puck.
Team Spirit a little too far. On the hunts, Yattaro. On the run, Rekmium getting wound up, faking it,
as Kalaaf goes for the crush turn. Allow them to escape. Quick BKB, dodges the decays done.
End comes Mars though, another round of spells. Mantar Dodge not working, pinned against the
Troubler spear. Golden drop, Rekmium comes in but the whip is cracked. Yattaro forcing away
the rectum now! Oh that stun! Finally comes in but the stun is there and Yatra is gonna get chased down!
DK and Amber on his tail! Vici Gaming by back! Very nice execution by Vici Gaming. I thought that
fight would be difficult for him when the coils came in on the emperor early on, but they fight
through it really really well. The dragonite was finally able to deal a ton of damage as well.
A 4k net worth of swing. 1500 to the DK. That stun towards the end by dragonite right before the
the S14 went out was beautiful the S14 was in the air and the stun connects so
he could not do the TP move that he wanted. So and I look at spear, the chains, the whip,
the chains all the way back then, two minutes prior. They really kind of did
very nicely though they also wrapped around we can see the initiation here
the first part of the fight. And this time no no coil into Toss snap, no toss
into Requiem. Yeah and look at the spear as well after this phase shift he
He waits, holds it, and catches beautifully onto the puck as well, so quick takeout on
one of the important heroes.
And from here they just kite down the SF.
He doesn't really have many cards to play anymore on the SF, it's pretty predictable.
Yeah, so missed time by Spirit there, maybe needed to wait for Shadowfiend to respawn
off at Aegis, and then have that Requiem with the coil actually combo together.
This way, they can play a new lease on life, able to get towards their PKBs, play out on
the map but still got to worry here about the toss coil plays but the
damage is a bit lacking. The Dragon Knight is comes in once done while he's done. A
spear on Rue stops him from retreating as well. Finding the Tiny, lurking in the
shadows, beachy gaming absolutely back in this game. Oh we're estimating the
damage output. The Tiny and SF sure you can burst amber but Puck doesn't really
have that DPS just yet. You don't have the same impact as an SF ulti bursting
someone so unfortunately they tried to kill someone and just didn't have the
numbers. Now T-Spirit is going to be a little bit on the back foot and more momentum going
the way of Ichi. And that's allowed Ember to get close to a Shivas guard as well. Only
600 more gold he's going to have a full Shivas. Amazing to have against the Slardar, against
SF, in particular Slardar by the way. He has so low attack speed. If you get Shivas, take
away some attack speed as well. It feels like you can't hit if you play Slardar.
blink thrashing to bash, no push back though, XM able to slip away
gets to safety
okay, Nruin's bolted, Yatro tells Laurel something waits for him
sharing the gifts
I like to pick up a gem right now, recognizing the vision is going to be king
so they buy a gem, put it on the puck
trying to again shove back Vici into their base
Get any d words that you can
Because both teams have shown if they get initiation if they get to lead the fight they can
cost some serious damage right Dragonite stun and then it's lay in or the spear into Dragonite hitting or whatever and at the same
Time on the other side in spirit. We've seen multiple executions how they can just burst some of them
Yeah, no no when they're a simple now with DK and Mars BKB's you can't just get the immediate snap jump onto them
Holy gunpowder gauntlets
Yeah, a dump on our game.
That's time for them.
They're all right click course, so it makes sense.
It's really nice on the Slider Fist, actually.
It triggers when you slide a fist in.
They all want that immediate burst damage.
Makes a lot of sense.
Bass spawn on Roche is about 10 seconds away.
Shiro, you got a face tank to go here.
Roll them, drop them tiny.
Rude dead for 50 and Team Spirit.
That should be the signal to retreat.
Shiro steps up, glimmer caped and pressing forward
forward with a jump on Shadowfiend he's opened up on Yataro. Looks like Spirit are gonna
try and coil and cause some chaos in the back to make sure the advance is halted.
Yeah, it's just a defensive coil. Drop the coil and then back out, get out of dodge.
They lost the tiny, it's not the worst loss in Team Spirit, but still, Vici, they will
take any advantage they can get and start pushing for more, maybe thinking about the
top tower as people TP that way, but I think they're also content just farming.
would be a big upgrade for the Dragonite to wait for and you don't want to have a fight where you
don't have the DK ulti ready so not stressing too much
Mars going for the classic build the big be uh big be the refresher after flint or hex inter
refresher rather that's a jump on ember that falls into rachrium it's beautiful every time
time. I opened up a new exhibit in the Louvre for all these incredible executions that Team
Spirit are pulling out. Cinema. That's what they signalled right after the first game.
Nice art. Pure form. That just looks so simple. Well they keep playing towards each other.
to find a lager. Hold the rush. Simple, minimalist. Minimalist. Or it takes two spells. Toss into
Requiem. Find themselves in a commanding position again. Rush in very close here. The odds pretty
heavily favoring Team Spirit. No surprise with SF in their hands. They're still ahead and they
They have a very nicely scaling lineup, so I can understand.
There's definitely some breath of life in this lineup by Vici, though.
Once they hit a few of their new pares by coming in, I think they will try and force
more fights.
The hex is not super far away.
They need 700 more gold from ours.
Dragonite needs about 400 gold for his Daedalus.
He's no joke with Daedalus.
Yeah.
With BKB, Daedalus.
Oh, for sure.
Do they have a solo crest above him?
They do.
Yeah, okay.
And Warlock is also level 15, so he's got that attack speed down.
He's super tanky, he's got glimmer and solar behind him, plenty of steroids for this dragonite to actually stand and deliver.
And they're even thinking about...
about uh... yeah okay, he had earlier queued up maybe a Vladimir's on the ringmaster, but now he changed it to an Etherlands.
He's thinking about going buffing his team, because obviously they're all right-click-based cores.
Yeah, does he want to buff himself and his team or does he want to have that
Box to save people from these coil toss plays. I'm surprised. He hasn't queued up a play tag
He got the glimmer and the bling you'll step there, but no blink seems so difficult in this game
But yeah, there are defensive items against the puck right he gets jumped by puck
He wants to be able to set up for a spear if he uses the puck
Since Mars didn't go use it's really good that he has one on the ringmaster true
Each you know that they've got to contest this Roshan
It has spawned, but Spirit already in position, the dire roche on the way to the side of the map.
Everybody knows what's going on.
It's just a matter of how you approach it now. They're holding high grounds on the side of the spirits.
Everyone is smoke revealing. You can see how they're holding on the ramps. Everyone ready to blink away when it breaks.
Spirit even scanned behind themselves. They scanned their own ancient area in case that wraparound was coming.
Yeah, because their position is aggressively positioned.
That is why stepping up high ground, immediate jump from Rune.
Goes Scepter, but a safety for the wall, looks maybe gets some spells out.
Or thought he'll go into the SF, BKB Arena, Sphere with a DK ulti damage, he's got him.
Yattaro gave.
Team Spirit with no SF, trying to poke still with Collapsed and Loth, playing forward on Shiro.
Bushwack not fucking land, but Collapsed is giving him the click.
The Dragonite's falling here just to this Slardar.
The Pup comes back forward again and they've taken him down, trading out beautifully.
Spirit! The slaughter and Pup pairing up in Tantum!
He's still alive?
Then you'll fall! How is Klappin allowed to survive?!
XM finally gets the kill! One more remnant remains!
But Pup and Pantum on his tail!
Well he missed the violence!
He's gonna turn and slice into him so close!
The final battle! The solar crest keeps him alive!
Ooh, that was dangerously close! His sleight of fist dodged!
from Laurel's puck, almost turning that around.
Man, he fought his heart out on XM,
trying to bring that back.
What a battle.
Puck versus Ember.
Glorious battle to the bitter end,
but a five-man wipe, his spirit clear the floor.
I mean, that fight worked out better for two spirits
than it maybe should have after the initiation
of losing their stuff immediately.
They took a really good fight
where they punished the grouping of each gaming.
They got pretty close to each other,
But can we just rewind and think about how that all started?
Why would the biggest balls on a warlock I've ever seen just walks up the high ground and says,
you know what? I don't care if you go on me.
He's a wheelbarrow!
Yeah, who cares if you initiate on a warlock?
So he gave vision for his team by walking first, realizing that Mars can't go first.
He needs to be the one catching people.
A slaughter with an acronym SEPTA.
So deceptively tangy, playing down in the river in the stream.
Yeah, very difficult to toy with as Spirit all respawned, 5 alive in the Roche pit,
Ember dead for 10 seconds, Vici gaming not gonna give this one up without a fight flow.
Green lights, except for Warlock as we can listen to what Yattrow has been saying.
I killed the guy.
DK is in BKB, guys.
There is no BKB arena.
You need to kill DK.
Oh, he's getting hard.
Ah, the pikes, the kiting, the damage!
Rest, Sif!
Slotter's the chaser.
Slotter's the chaser.
Slotter, what's he doing?
Good 1v3.
Ah, he can't go for more.
He can't die to just the dragon knights.
He can keep chasing on this, but he doesn't have anyone with him, really.
But against the agonim scepter, Slotter with 4,000 HP.
No way to bring him down.
The double push there, the psychic headband, into Hurricane Pike.
Poor guy got shoved away so hard.
so hard do you wish as you click the searing chains in time?
I was at Ember Death Summary, yeah, 1800 missives of clicks at the end.
Isn't that a really rare death scream for an Ember where you didn't get silenced or
stunned or anything?
Just got punched.
You literally just got right clicked to death?
Yeah.
I think you're right.
No hex, no nothing, just died.
Yeah, not a single ability was landed on a mother than like illusor orb, I think.
Not an honorable death.
No, it's...
I mean, in a way it was honorable.
He died a warrior, it's just a bit unfortunate to die as a spirit without being controlled.
Ambo is very sad.
I suppose the pushers were a form of control, shoving him away.
If he got the kill onto the hook wing, at least maybe something would happen.
Most important thing of the back of that is Shaddafiend, got his hands on Aegis and got
to keep it.
There is a clear pattern by the way that teams fared, they are enjoying their minus armor
drafts here in this series by the way.
In this game they're using it to full advantage with the Vladmears coming out from Hoodwink as well.
Solarcrest, Vladmears, buffing up the SF and the Slardar.
Well, I'm getting a bit twitchy on the high ground.
It's kind of jammed, sitting there, waiting for any Warlock or Ringmaster to come walking by.
Animation cancelling nothing.
Like when you're playing Life Stealer and you're getting to do push-ups.
You do as much APM as possible.
I wonder what...
Damn that bomb.
I wonder what Bristleback players do now that they can auto-cast their Quills.
Like, what do they do with all their spare time?
I don't know.
Really makes me think.
Scratching their head.
Here's to old chat.
Some lovely messages.
To their opponents.
Yeah, happy birthday, Ence.
And such.
Yeah.
Have we seen any happy birthdays from Vici, actually?
No.
Toxic.
Traceful.
Yeah.
They probably don't know.
If they lose, they should just play it off as it was a happy birthday person.
It's all for you, Yatoro.
XM, being eyed up with Yatoro.
Just get poked out there by Planet.
I feel something coming.
Three lanes are trending towards Radiant Base.
Vici Gaming have also popped this dragon form.
It's a potential here for Spirit if they keep playing through top lane to bypass the ulti of DK.
Team Spirit are completing some items too, they have a saltcrest just delivered now for Slardar, so he's feeling pretty strong.
The puck is very close to having a power spike. 200 gold, the null fire will be up and that will be very problematic for some of these heroes.
Like the Glimmer and Yule Scepter, the Box from Ringmaster, the Gold Scepter on the Warlock, all of these tools, even the Solar Crest can get removed.
The Box of course, you need to click the null fire first, and click it after the fact.
You have to maintain all the lanes spirit were sitting and waiting again
Just setting a trap around that slaughter. I think that's where it's a bit bored of getting
bursted in the fight. So he's going for a Lincoln sphere to protect himself against some of the
jump. There's a hex of course. There's the Dragonite stun as well. Very, very good to have a
Lincoln against this. And it makes it now there's not really a target, a core target the rating
can go on right yeah also if you think about it what do they have to break the
linkage that's always the follow-up question when you think about okay
there's good stuff to break or to stop but what is there that can bring it
it's literally just warlock yeah there's you'll sector on ringmaster I guess but
that's it you have hex you have DK stun and that's that's all you're targeted
abilities from your three core players and fatal bonds all three high value
spells or abilities or items yeah but from your core players is literally just
the two things that you want to block is what they have so it's amazing Lincoln's
game. High ground hold here for VG gaming. There's a lot of times if you crawl
close enough to SF as a warlock or a ringmaster you might just be dying already.
There we get to see him. He just is timing out just under 10 seconds so for now
it's a bit of chip damage on this tier 3 tower from Spirit as again they shove
every wave into a raiding base. No chance for Vici to stretch their legs or get anything done.
I think Patience is the name of the game over on the side of Radiant right now.
They did go for Vladimir themselves by the way on Warlock, so they were thinking about
getting it on Ring, but Warlock was the one to pick it up. Right now very close to Satanic over
on the Dragon Knights, that will help him a bit, but I think that's not enough. I think they have
to wait all the way for Mars to complete his next item. They're refresher. Get the refresher
Hex because of the Lincoln's otherwise. I don't see how you kill this
Beach you're gonna start getting cabin fever soon
Warlock and ringmaster stuck in the base for the last couple of minutes
I'd be bored. They need to get up like puck do some my
Monteneering, you know sit up here with the air is crisp. Just enjoying it animation cancel your your hero breathing
Do some manual breathing
Why you gotta do that to our viewers and manual blinking as well
I'll punch him later guys. He's sitting too far right now out of reach, but he's not safe guys.
I accept very delicately poking away at the creep wave. Fuck brute forces it.
I kind of feel that Team Spirit are edging towards this radiant base.
Team Spirit are saying that one is not enough and decided to go for one more nullifier
on Slardar. Really good to show how important it is for them to have some stuff to deal with this
box for instance. I think the box is primary incentive for getting the low fires. Also works as
a nice defensive tool though. 10 armor. Like people don't talk enough about how 10 armor on the
low fire is a lot there. It's so good. It goes from four from the helm and then you're like yeah
sure plus six. It's kind of incredible though the the stark difference right from our perspective
of seeing everything, knowing where all these heroes are on the map, knowing that Vigigaming
could technically come out of their base and farm some neutral camps, push some lanes, but
Spirit are projecting such a strong image on the map that you don't know where anyone
is.
Slardar, SF, Tiny have literally been farming back through the jungle for the past minute
and a half.
Yeah.
And you can't let this go on for too long.
If you do let Spirit just farm the entire map, you're just going to lose by attrition,
right?
Yeah.
They're 27,000 gold behind, so they do only thing that you can do in this move, which is to smoke out.
Yeah, you have to regain your supply lines.
There's a Lincoln's on the puck, the initiation has to be clean if they go...
Team Spirit didn't blow up the British from the way out, there's a good jump on the puck, immediate blow-up on Lowell.
That's very important, to reclaim the gem as well.
That's a really good one, if they get lucky it could be an early Roche spawn as well, maybe force a buyback out of the puck.
Already this allows them to get on the map and use the Ember Gem to de-word a little bit.
That's where you need confidence from your Mars player.
He could have tried to lead with some form of hex, but Lincoln's of course stopping that,
so he has to just blink and land that spear. Let's train up how you go.
A minute and a half for Roche.
The time for Puck to respawn, fortunately they have a spirit.
Thinking about the Dragonite, Boston Dolcey.
The DK and the Requiem, BKB's out.
It was two rows though.
Will of Wanda comes in, they don't time experience.
The arena gonna catch Panto inside
as Ember opens up on them.
And Team Spirit realizing now they kinda run out of gas,
the spear back on collapse, catch it slow down.
Puck does come in, the five out from Laurel,
turning it back on the DK and it's double damage.
Puck annihilates him.
Puck's being burnt down, jump in from Laurel,
knees the box, Yathrow can come in with a raise
collect to finish the job, buck! Get the high grab! Hides on the cliff top! The orb over
for the glimlicate gives him envies! Woohoohoo, buck! Some gaming coming out to get out of
that situation in the end. Really good for them. Like, sure you lost your dragon knight,
but you forced the buck by back, you survived with the Mars. I think that was really, really
nice for them actually. But it looked like it was going to be a disaster. If Mars died as well,
it would be immediate high ground push. But since SF doesn't have ulti, doesn't have B,
BKB, I think Team Spirit are just going to chill and try and control Roche.
Unfortunately for them on the side of Ichi, Roche is spawning soon.
And without Dragonite it can be hard to control it, of course.
That pug by back came out of nowhere for me.
Yeah, I mean he saw the big fight that was brewing.
It was one moment where they didn't have the perfect combination between SF and Tiny.
And Shiro gets off his BKB.
It has to be hard though.
Playing a game of SF with Kaya Asha.
Then you go into the next game, he don't have the Kayaasha.
Like to expect mentally be ready for how long it's gonna take, so he missed time this ulti.
And I think it really, I think it really fucks with you when you play with cast speed increase and then play without it in the same series.
Even as Yatora.
Yeah, I mean it's so easy to forget in the heat of the moment, so...
If you just cast it a little bit earlier, that would have been a clean take down on DK and the fight would have looked entirely different.
Still gonna get their hands on Roshan though.
It looks like Vici getting far too distant to come and contest it, but Team Spirit are going to respect it.
They just forced the roar and then the backouts, just keeping Vici guessing.
Vici are just saying, okay, if you roast right now, that's whatever. We're going to get map.
Well, right now Vici have DK Ember as important buybacks. Spirit only with collapse on their cores.
We'll have the Aegis on SF, so that's more valuable than a buyback, come straight back
into fight.
Poxy on disc.
That's going to help a lot, oh Rue, he's found a jump.
He's almost back to Mars, they'll find the Warlock who goes set the TP's and is home
safe.
Didn't have the...
Oh, I see, he didn't go for the nullifier, he changed it to 9 to 1 Shadowblade instead
of Collapse.
Thanks to that, Warlock's gonna say okay, I can just gold step to the NCP.
Sure can.
But understandable, the Silver Edge is very good for collapse here as well.
He's playing against Mars, against Dragon Knights.
It's gonna be pretty damn good for increased kill potential.
Then you get some nice attack speed, which Slaughter never complains about having some.
some.
Backs against the wall again though.
VG Gaming stuck in their base.
Cabin fever round two.
Team spirit.
Literally, I have the avalanche coming, just around VG Gaming.
They are holding onto a very, very significant gold lead, 27,000, even 45 minutes in is
still a really really big chunky lead. He's going for a pivot on Shiro trying to
throw a curveball. Shiro queues up the butterfly. This can come with some
deadly timing because if you don't have Nkidia to deal with it you're gonna
struggle to hit him with Slardar and with SF and Slardar in particular not
being able to hit means he doesn't bash you. So I like the commitment here from
Dragonite. He needed a attack speed and butterfly is the best option.
Dragonform. Halfway through the duration.
Spirit, they're on the doorstep here.
Yeah, I don't think he showed himself though with the Dragonform, so...
At least they're unaware that he doesn't have Ulti soon.
He's just trying to form the side lane to get this level 25.
She was saying, please guys, just hold them away a little bit.
Meanwhile everyone was like, I don't want to get jumped by Titan.
But now there's a banner with a catapult.
Slowly whistling away at your buildings.
Laud will try and clear the wave.
Vici gaming, watching.
40 seconds for DKLT.
This is going to be how long they need to wait.
At least need to fight for like 20 seconds more before it 5 starts.
Otherwise he's going to be pretty useless.
Slowly slowly kill the barracks.
I'm feeling pretty safe here with Link in the on-disc.
It is a very tentative push. Aegis butterfly SF is walking up now until...
Yassar will finally force you to lift. 10 seconds there ready on Dragonite.
It's getting very close. Yeah, I think mid-raxxus is not really worth dying for here. You just chill.
Look to take a fight afterwards. They do have a smoke on Warlock, so could be looking to make a move out.
need to push lanes first though at least the mid lane next creep way it needs to
get taken down in the banner of course but it provides a lot of vision as well
I've seen people in places just as a word sometimes as a meme it's very funny
yeah put it on high ground it's not the longest duration but she's some
information arcane rune blow puck so we have triple a on discs on dire worth
Noting there's three heroes you can't burst now, and there's still no nullifier on radiant. I
Guess taking you'll sector after they on disc triggers to dispel, but yeah
It's a bit tricky
Tricky to say how they're gonna burst the key targets is triple Lincoln's triple BKB triple a on disc, right?
They've got all the
Abilities and items to stay alive in reality like slaughter might be the best target for him to go on which is kind of weird because
he's this tanky off lane guy that
You don't imagine being a good target, but he's been doing some work when he gets to live in the fights.
Either that or get on the SF, of course. If they can connect on SF, that's amazing, but BKB and Lincum's and Aegis...
It's hard to get him. My DK does have the damage.
He's got that attack speed.
He does hit hard, for sure.
And he has to blink as well for mobility, so he can connect.
This next fight is going to be so precarious for the side of Ichi.
How do they approach it?
Running away. Team Spirit are very happy to reset here. They used less resources.
A lot of spells were used by Radiant. No arena available. No peek to be on the
Mars available. Same for Dragonite.
And they come, oh my god, oh the damage!
They hit the port to the DK to disengage, XM just get a nice jump in the back, but he disappears?
Yartaro just crits him down, Ember will buy back and jump into Slarner, killing off collapse at least.
Lall, another E on this pop, and Team Spirit disengaging.
Running away again, Espe doesn't have a Zatanic, he doesn't really want to stand toe to toe for too long, just kiting.
Triple buyback and still no victory there for Beachy Gaming. Yes, they hold onto their base. Yes, they killed Slardar
But a painful existence as Team Spirit still dictating how this game is going. Team Spirit do have triple buyback
They don't want to use the Slardar immediately. They want to wait for him to normally respawn
Yeah, they they're so strong in these fights. It's very very hard to burst anyone
They try to take down the SF quickly
But too much disruption coming in the moment they go on someone tiny jumps and avalanches the puck jumps in on the backline
They could not get a clean combination to burst Yathra
And those a on discs all proving to be so annoying
Even the hoodwink has a Lincoln spear the luxury items are at bounds for team spirit. They just have so many items
They're about to have a refresher on tiny soon one
Okay, level 24 on that two supports. Yeah, sure
Closing in on all his massive talents
Okay
Laurel yeah different two minutes actually be playing a bit too aggressive there
Didn't expect them to make it move to come out of base
But again similar to the earlier pickoff only this time even more impactful as he does not have buyback on
So two minutes where Vigy giving can get across the river push some lanes
They can get something done for sure. See a replay here
That's back again
Spear into arena the confident buff Mars. I mean they did talk about it on the panel
You know do you let it through the bannets, you know this?
This Mars is definitely a super comfortable hero in his hands
Actually getting to push a tier 2?
Friendly little dodge on the bullet, let's Mars take it instead.
Get down, it's the dragon knight.
Okay, so he decided to go for a goal scepter, interestingly on the Mars, even against the
nullifier.
It's still useful because he has refresher and BKB, so he can still mess around with
when Puck is unable to go on him.
The plan ain't get some high ground vision, but it has been noticed by Spirit.
Puck dead for 50 means the goal of dropped on this tier 3 tower has been elicit a response,
a toss back into base, Shiro set onto the SF with a requiem and start right clicking into the DK.
Yattaro engages for now with Rune to get Arena.
Collapses side, dealing with back for fresh, Alphard turned to fight, the Pucks is dead, save the Mars.
Trying to slip back, but Arena again with Syro the rival, Rue, is gonna get taken down and collapse in trouble inside here too!
They've got 5x available team spirit, but Syro standing and delivering against Yattaro that decays out-damaging the ESC.
Shadowfiend, Lincoln start backing up the tier 4s, Rue bought back, trying to retreat with Panto, but XM's poking at them.
A refresher from Syro now, more damage with the stun on Tiny and down you go!
Yeah, they're trying to go in is so low though collapse and after all they've lined it up
The damage with the race
I think he got a crit on the race with auto attack damage buckets hunting after Denver
And I found the warlock XM refresh lol is trying to hunt him
But there's no cool to be had the ember spirit got more remnants to get back home
But we're now looking at situation where DK's dead for 80 no buyback mark same story
Yeah, they're dead. I mean
Ember, can you maybe sometime hold on to this, but it's gonna be so difficult
It's just him and the ringmaster
The S of his coming in his full HP this time and he's angry always mad four versus two
How dare you ruin my birthday? Give me this to a victory
Nice he's going for a he's going for the safe push doesn't want to commit for a full throne
If he doesn't go through immediately though, do they still have time to take throne at the top?
I'm not sure. I guess they don't necessarily know that DK doesn't have buyback. Everyone else has some cool down
Yeah, DK spent his money bought out for the refresher. They're gonna go for the mega creeps play it safe
Try pushing all the waves get all the baggers afterwards
30 seconds still
third lane drops and Yatra now looks at tier four towers
25 to go. They have to do something. They have to go in, play some disruption. Ringmaster,
Sittigan Fountain looking for a chance, Revenant's in, she was out, Yathura BKB's up. Cliff is
there protecting Ancient, Roo Pingses says let's go attack. Yathura's BKB expires, Law
will deal with the Epic Spirit in the back and GG call, Team Spirit take it. GG, well
played by Team Spirit, holding on to the lead for the majority of the game. There were moments
where Vici struck back but they were not able to take full control the way Team Spirit did.
Impressive, Stalfman! Happy birthday, Yataro! Happy birthday!
Yeah, congratulations on the birthday and on the top six with a 2-0 victory over Vici Gaming. Much
respect to Vici Gaming for even though they're more than 30k gold down, they're still play to win
creating some cool moments in this game and they fought back hard but Team Spirit,
but they are undoubtedly the winner here.
A lot to talk about here, Goddard,
because a lot of cool moments
and a lot of cool little plays.
Yeah, I think the Shadowfiend Tiny combo
is looking really good.
It's looking better than, honestly, a biped of the tree,
because it just sets up to these requiem.
Two games in a row, there's so many consistent plays
that's kind of happening just in combo of the two players.
And then besides that, just a lot of the team fight,
they have worse team fight on average in BG.
It's like so easy for BG to execute the team fights.
I want to say I was just outplaying them in these kind of situations.
It's so much kiting. Every time you watch them play Spirit, they just find ways to, of course,
tiny, shadow fiend, they toss back at any minute. If you don't press B to B, you're going to be
deleted from the game. So that is weighing on virtue gaming positioning, how they want to play
areas of the map, where they want to ward. But you've got to give credit to this again,
you know, as you mentioned, Shiva, like the way that they were playing, they were always playing
to win. When they were 20k down, 10k down, 30k down, like, I think X someone is Ember Spirit,
during 15-8 and 7, like he was always trying his best to open up the fights, but they just
didn't have the same little flair, I guess, of spirit. They leaned on their raw skill,
just to clutch up some of these fights, and unfortunately, they just couldn't match it.
And to give them credit for Vici, it was very close, raw skill, right? Like the entire base
push at the end of the game could have gone the other way, it was such a close, maybe they get
the SF there, maybe they get one extra kill, maybe the Dragonite somehow gets out, it's just like
Like he's very, very small things.
And the really cool thing as well for Vici in that moment,
like when Chateaufine steps up, he has buyback,
he has like half HP or third HP.
They don't go for him.
They just continue to go over to the guys
that don't have the buyback,
because if they kill Chateaufine,
they 100% will just lose.
He buyback, it's over.
So even in the nail-biting 35,000 down moments,
like they are objectively going for the right targets,
trying to like clutch it up.
So again, nothing but praise to both teams.
Of course, Spirit getting the better of them with a 2-0,
but I am excited to see what Vici Gaming can do
with a lot of bracket run
because they are playing some very impressive dota against a very impressive team and Rue,
the Tiny, the Shadow Fiend, as already mentioned, whoo-hoo, are they gonna get it again?
Because the toss backs the entire time, it's like what, I think that's like eight or nine
toss back into Requiem kills throughout this entire series specifically. Scary stuff.
Yeah, it does definitely put some extra limelight on that duo, not just in the duo of the players
but the heroes as well. I do think that that's going to be something that other teams are
definitely going to look at, especially since tiny is is still a pretty popular position
for a pic. Of course, birthday boy couldn't couldn't miss him as one of the MVPs here
as well as you got to both do the job. So also one person has to do an extra job. And
I do believe that it is birthday boy thorough starting by with slacks.
Absolutely my friends. Yes, we are here with Kerry got himself SF God, I should say absolutely
incredible performance would you say you're the best SF in the building
out there no who's better than you know don't exactly I'm telling you this guy
is cooked but how do you get away with this how do they give you these heroes
that they know you guys are gonna crush on is it just cuz you have such a big
hero pool is it just cuz they fear you is what are you doing collab what do you
want collapse is coming in for the he's just standing here what do you want you're
talking about SF? Yeah. It's zero IQ character. Oh, okay. So that's why he's good at zero IQ.
It's totally zero IQ. Just press right click and just kill everyone. You got a shitty agent.
When this guy come in here and interrupts your interview, a pain go like that's a hard hero.
Happy birthday, Yathron. Oh, we'll get there. Don't ruin the inter. Why are you guys shaking hands
around the same team? We know that you're friendly. Get the hell out of here, collapse.
God damn terrible a terrible interview. Anyway, can I talk a little bit about Laurel?
What's up with this guy? He's getting stuck on the cliffs. He doesn't know he can get down from puck.
Guy's got a blink dagger. Was that a strategy you guys talked about?
He just said, guys, look, I'm warped in this one.
Guys, look, I'm warped. That's it. There's got to be a high little strat. Did you tell him to do that or no?
No, no. It's his idea.
Okay. All right. That brings me back to the nature's profit days, you know?
So okay good flashback right there. Well my friend we do know that this is your special day. It's your big birthday
23 is that right? Yes. All right, and I wanted to do something special
We prepared something for you guys here ladies and gentlemen
We are gonna sing you happy birthday on twitch chat at home. Okay ready one two three
I guess doing it
They're doing it
And there it is, congratulations, a happy birthday, all right.
Anything to say out there to the birthday well wishers?
No.
Fuck, okay then, all right, well, have a great day, all right, thank you very much, goodbye.
Hello.
Hello.
Well, you know, no, happy birthday, no, check and chat, no, I believe everybody is singing
happy birthday.
a couple. Yeah. No, they
didn't say. Thank you. Thank
you. We will say it. Happy
birthday. I'm happy to have
your tour. I'm sure he's very
thrilled that you guys will
wish you okay. I'm we just
caught up with chat. It is
just everyone is spamming
happy birthday. Oh, that's
actually they love one of
their favorite carry players
in the world. Okay, we'll
talk each other. Find a
Yeah, I mean, okay, no, I think the kaiyasha blink stuff is really cool and kind of high skilled because you actually have to like have impact in your squishy compared to the other carries.
But then when you get to the four plus items, when you have like the butterfly data, let's say 10 to get is a bit of a kind of walk in situation.
Yeah, I think as soon as you have a carry that doesn't have like the blink, the my positioning is terrible.
Like I made my own problem, you can kind of simplify it a little bit.
So yeah, Shadowfiend unfortunately does, I wouldn't say it's like as bad as Claps said, but I would argue it's in the easier category of how to show your skill.
You compare it to like some of the other ranged characters in this patch where it's like TA, and you kind of have to like position way better or more things, not that popular right now, but for a high skill cap.
And then you have the S if it's like, if you A, left-click in a teamfight, and as long as you press like BKV Satanic at some point, you're probably going to get at least a triple kill.
Me more.
Fair enough.
Let's collapse, I have a cluster thing slot.
Twitch chat, you could get a triple kill at PGL if you pick Shadow Food.
If you get to the two PGLs.
You should get the four items against the best players in the world.
Easy.
Surely.
Surely.
Well, a team spirit.
They are guaranteed top six now moving forward in the upper bracket.
Vici Gaming, I'm sure we'll see a lot more of them in that lower bracket.
I believe their opponents will be heroic.
Oh, that will be a spicy one.
I'm looking forward to that one.
But we're moving on because more upper bracket series to play so we're going to take a break
and it's going to be Jannex and Aurora after the break and of course a fresh panel to take
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Hey everybody here with collapsed of rate off-laners now
We are gonna do all the off-laners in the tournament five being the worst one being the best you are allowed to pick yourself
That is okay. Let's get started. Who do you think deserves number five?
number five
We'll be probably infernal
Okay, okay, what's good about him infernal? I
Yeah, yeah, I have I haven't had no one else mentioned him yet. Why is he good? I mean I
I will continue just so ranking then I will say why whatever you want collapse
I'm not gonna tell you two-time TI way you do whatever you want who number four
number four will be triple s okay interesting triple s all right well
let's continue the system next one will be PMA okay PMA very good very good I'm
seeing a pattern here okay go ahead and the second one will be I mean there's no
like young offenders in the sport already I would set like this okay yeah
because I don't like the old offenders like me also okay I just want to like
young offenders to get good and be better okay all right all the old
offlaner this get out okay are we just stopping at three then I would be nice
if you could name two more but please just random can I put like in here with
my device yeah yeah sure go ahead all right point to what we want okay that's
Bach that's a that's a classic guy right there okay
Baka is number two and who is the best off laner at the tournament?
I will do the same.
Okay.
Close his eyes.
And of course he does pick himself.
What an arrogant, absolutely puts himself at number one.
Pure arrogance coming out from collapse.
Could you please explain your ranking?
I mean, I would place like also two young off laners, rank one and rank two.
But I think it's good enough, so I'm just doing it because of the young players.
I think you absolutely...
I'm very fond of players.
Okay, well...
For me also.
I'm not tired of...
You got a young heart collapse, so I think you deserve to be number one.
I gotta say, you absolutely butchered this piece.
You did...
I did random, but...
You did it completely wrong, and then you picked yourself first.
Just absolutely shit on the piece.
That's okay. Alright, well hopefully you don't grief the games as much as you grieved mine, so thanks a lot
to you.
Yes. Welcome back to PGL. We
are in the playoffs and we got
two more series coming at you
today. I'm going to be your
host Richard Lewis. You know me
much you wish I wasn't here I'm gonna be here and joining me in the evening crew a playoff
bracket requires a playoff caliber desk evening crew look at this guy you said you would do it
you said I got it I just realized I forgot my shoes yeah we brought sorry for all the people that
don't like my I will fix that yeah we don't have to pay for that on kezu.com slash short slash
coaching yeah that's actually I will fix that impose that's how we do things in the evening
We don't even dress up probably know it is Kezu. It is Jenkins. I'll have you breaking down the games for me and
Explaining some of the minutiae you might have missed at home
But for now, why don't we take a look at the playoff brackets? This is what's been going on just in case you are tuning in
We've just had a crazy couple of games. I mean first of all the rarest of things that this will I hear two zeros
but we had a very solid Betbloom performance against Heroic and we just saw, despite Vici's best efforts in that game too, they lost to Spirit and that's going to knock them down that lower bracket, not out of the tournament yet.
Yeah, I mean, Spirit are just, we all know that they're pretty good, you know, they're a decent team, yeah, they're TI caliber I would say.
I would say.
That's a good point, that's a good point.
That's pretty bold, pretty bright.
I think so.
So, why don't we talk about the teams we've got coming up in our next series,
which one team is more of a surprise than the other, I would say,
but there's still both maybe surprising them in the playoffs.
We've got a Rola taking on Yandex.
I want to start by talking about Yandex.
They picked up some amazing wins to get here, statement wins, I would say, in the team's history.
So, what are they doing so well? What's the secret?
I would say, like, this team, like, again, they're, you know, they have their own, like, stand-in with Vtune,
Overall they have a lot of like I would say good synergy within the team even with the stand-in that they do have and I
Overall just like how they played the early game with their supports. I think kariori to me is always one guy that are you talking Aurora?
Yeah, yeah, I just got it
So cycling back to Yanix I really like their supports especially socks
No, because this guy on the plus four he reminds me, but it's you know, it's the boxy factor
He runs around, he does well in his lane, he plays as tiny as Shadow Shaman's early game, it's all this guy.
Yeah, he plays to his limits.
You know, this is what Insania said about Boxy during Dreamlink, that he's like...
Liquid couldn't really be like a formation team when he was on it, because they had so many players that would like play to their own personal limits.
Like they would chase, they would over chase, but get out on really low HP, and it's like if you go with them, you're gonna die.
I feel like Soxa can be the same type of player as well,
where he can do some really, really high-skill stuff.
He can also play the nine-class type heroes,
which is an entirely different play style.
He is genuinely one of the most versatile,
not even fours, but versatile players of all time,
that he can fit into so many roles
and do it to the degree of the specialist.
It's very impressive.
Yeah, we may have a clip which demonstrates this,
but we'll set it up first of all.
Obviously, you've noticed some nice little bits of tech that Jannex are doing.
Yeah, it's just overall, I think also we need to remember they have DM first of all as a stand-in.
I think he's quite different also from other offlaners.
Maybe that's also one of the reasons why he was there, go from parry vision initially.
Because he's playing different heroes with his Largo, his Badrider, and we will show it later.
But there's a lot of intricacies, I would say, with what teams do, and the small things that you look to abuse when it comes to a Dota game.
The game is so complex and every player has like the different things I would say that they value very highly
Yeah, so these guys what I want to show I think this tier one item is so good
I love it
I love when people have this and especially you know also with like the offlaner like the items that they build with the boots of bearing
Like just look at this clips like they have three different for what cup and the boots of bearing they go here the moment
I'm are you know keep these in you see one cobalt cup gets popped you have the you know the boots of bearing five
Yeah, like look at it. It's so hard to like really catch them out in this fight
And it's also if you look at the score like Falcons have zero kills and it's because they're so hard to catch
Like you'll see it here. This is like 30 seconds later
You know they make this play bottom they back off they smoke here 560 moves feed in the water
It's like it's so hard to catch and I think you just have all these different teams that value smaller things
And this is one of the things that with this team. I love it. Yeah, and I believe you wanted to highlight Watson
Always a great player to watch lots of you also want to highlight this the evening crew, you know
I'm down to highlight Watson if you want anything do it. I got this one, you know, mr. Watson
He's you know, he played with our good old friend mr. Quinn Callahan
He did the Callahan's game
So of course, you know, there's a lot of things that go into that and like you shape the player and you help him out
But Watson to me. He's the he's a range carry type of specialist the guys got range
Absolutely because you know
I was checking out his games and the heroes that he's playing and there is only one or two heroes that aren't ranged
Where he like really destroys on and it's the fuzzy bear, you know the earth's awarded
That hero wins a lot of games, but all of the other ones this guy when you give him a range hero
This guy is scary as hell
You know what's fun about this matchup that you have one guy who's like a range specialist and you have vtums like
Fuck that I'm playing melee heroes like this guy is life stealer
This guy will play Abaddon in almost every game
It's like sure if SF is let through like of course especially early on in the tournament when it was not being answered as much
Like he will play it of course, but like if you look at his top 10 heroes of all time like there's PL
There's Abaddon and then on the on Watson side. It's a complete opposite
It's it's like all these range squishy like glass cannon type heroes
So it's a battle of two polar opposite types of carries that have both seen huge success
Yeah, and it's got to be said as well. We're gonna see the TA factor probably coming to play in this upcoming draft because
TA is the strongest carry here at Valahia
And you know, it's it's still sat on like a close to an 80% win rate. I think it is
It's also like one of what's the best and it's also a signature
Like he lost on two of the three mealy here's the other one was the earth somebody at this guy's TA
This guy's windranger like you better be ready to either do something to these heroes in lane
which usually is quite difficult, but then later at least you know have a way that you can collapse on the TA or when the
Windranger goes through the gate that you have a counter play because this guy I'm checked. He's gonna destroy you
Well over on the other side you can see Aurora Gaming. Aurora Gaming have been on a pretty good run of things and
There's one player we definitely want to highlight on this team and that is Kaori. Yeah the guy I mentioned like five minutes ago.
That was called foreshadowing.
Well, that's for play, if you will, the Kari.
Indeed, but like Kari, if memory
certainly correctly, I think last time we saw him
in the Valachia, he was a stand-in for Maus.
I think they won the tournament.
And all he did was play Warlock in Phoenix.
Phoenix Warlock.
Hilariously, he was ahead of the curve.
Because now, if you want to be a good support,
all you have to do is play Warlock in Phoenix.
So let's talk about this guy.
Sure, yeah, I mean, there's this narrative
that he is a specialist player.
And of course, it's true.
But this idea that like only he can do it because he's just so good at it.
Uh, I don't necessarily agree with.
I really believe in the idea that if somebody is doing something and it is
working, it is just good.
It is simply good.
And this person has figured something out before everybody else.
And people in Dota are very capable of catching up to, to the curve, but
eventually, so Kaori, as we can see from the item builds, uh, one game, he went
pipe crimson, uh, with the dying light facet.
One game he went hotspot with ether ones, four step another game.
He went dying light again and he went for some defensive items in the solar crest and the lotus orb
Of course, he's got a sniper and SF on his team
So if you're going for the laser facet with this like you don't need to do damage, right?
And then in the final draft we can see he went for like full team fight. He went refresher orb
Eon disc to prevent himself from getting bursted. He just valued getting the egg off
so I think what Kaori has figured out is how to
Utilize the two different facets really well for like different situations
and go for different item builds for different situations where it's not
necessarily that Phoenix is this broken hero it's like oh no they got Phoenix we
lost the game it's that you can pick it early and slot it into any game because
he has figured out what items to go and what facets to go to make it work in that
game. I mean that just goes to show like I would say this is like what people do
when you've really figured out like the hero like for yourself you have a couple
hundred games you know your matchups you know when you played with these heroes
this is what you do because like you showed he goes for both the different
facets and I think that's absolutely like what you should do. You know different
games will call for like different adaptations so this guy on this hero I
mean you it's the same story you have to be ready you know it's coming but build
a good plan because you know you can see it from the graphic like he knows also
what to do even if you do answer him. Yeah he's the master of the situation. We
can also take a look at unique picks for both of these teams because that's
something to expect in the upcoming draft as well obviously these teams
They're not afraid to go color a little bit outside of the lines
And Malady has been an interesting one for me to look at me
Some of these heroes are we're seeing in other teams like a kunkka has been I think heroic has played a decent amount of kunkka
Dazzle no nobody's playing dazzle Watson playing carry void. It's actually we're seeing planet play position for void
V2 and has like a bunch of fairly unique heroes that other teams are not
Picking up, but Malady. I wish I could also put a quelling blade here below the dazzle
Did they show some clip?
Yeah, he's on every support in every game.
He's just going quelling blade, basically saying,
yeah, the map is just set up in a way
where there's too many good sentry spots.
There's too many good ward spots
where you can cut a tree down
and then people can't get to that sentry
or that ward without also cutting a tree.
And it's kind of like this prisoner's dilemma type
scenario where you have to do it against him,
but then there's the cost of having this extra thing
in your inventory.
Pretty much nobody else is doing it. And I think it's really good because okay number one
He's winning lanes because of this because he's winning the de-wording battle and then number two half of the game right now
And the early game is dictated by like stopping the off-laner from farming those two camps
Yeah, and putting wards in tree spots that can't be de-warded there legitimately might mean like
Three or four camps are not spawning anymore. The off-laner doesn't get to their timing and you win the game
I think it's also like through with the laning stage. I assume because I didn't look at it like in death
But when you like cut the trees on the side, I think a lot of force like they rely on you know playing the fog of war against these
Heroes, especially when you dazzle with like some poison like that too
I just think there's like so much again like it's this hundred gold investment that other players don't do
But you know like these little timings and what you can do with it that it will always pay off
That's true
I mean you say like dazzle and like to hero Phoenix like all the heroes that he's playing are heroes that like
don't want you to run in the trees against them. If they can just keep clicking you, they're going to demolish you in lane.
Yeah, the interesting one for me was V2N. You know, I think out of the
players I've seen picking the heroes. I mean first of all, I can't think of anyone else that's played a live stealer here.
That was kind of a...
I think he might be the only one. Yeah, I think he might be.
Yeah, it's just once. And it was him 100% when they were...
Which is, you know, kind of cool. You know, one of the iconic heroes in the game.
But also as well, I think we saw him on the dooser and we saw him on the Abaddon so kind of prioritizing these late
You know go late get items win the end game kind of kind of heroes heroes that can like sit in lane and be left alone
Yeah in our tanky
Support can go through the portal and you know do some action and yeah like when the late game had some sort of
decent timing I do wonder also if the abaddon like
was it truly like is it him that has been spamming it in the pubs or is it
like cuz obviously nightfall he's the best avid on in the world you know he's
the guy that he's replacing so obviously this team is like very like
polished in a way when it comes to playing with this hero like nightfalls
always on it like you were saying he's like the self-sustaining guy in the
safe lane but I will say he has played very well so far in this tournament I
read at the same time also this guy he's very specific like he's one of the first
guys I remember like years ago he would start with like band of Alvin skin
triple branch like no region or like boots first on Slark as a carry against like double
mealy so he is a very interesting player because like you can also see from the graphic he
will do his own thing.
It's funny because a few years ago like you would say that and you'd think this guy's
fucking crazy like going to these starting games but these days people are trying to
find excuses to the starting those are crazy dude so off laners are going ring of region
win lace double branch no region creativity and rushing rushing the tranquil boots yeah
It's it really feels like every year. There's just more and more layers of Dota to break down without even changing like the fundamentals of the game
Right well, we've done it. We stabilized. It was a shaky start in the we're back
We float down to draft island. Yeah, we've landed
There you go. We highlighted the Phoenix wall lock not happening a lot of teams are
simply banning the Phoenix at this point. It's like when you look and you see that
they are willing to take it in every single scenario, it's like I was sitting
here with Gunner every single morning we were watching Aurora and we watched all
of their games and we'd always say this is a really good Jikiro pick right here
like it counters some heroes they need the stuns but they're gonna pick Phoenix
and then they would pick Phoenix. Like they will pick it until you ban it and
now teams are finally banning it. I mean it does mean at least that you're leaving
like the other core heroes through you know there's so Shadowfiend is one
here that's in the pool, three in this also one that like made it through. So if
you're Rora obviously these heroes will be you know on your mind. Yeah the
the Shadow Theme trade has looked better. I want to say that like there's an
asterisk there because I do think answers have been figured out too. I don't
mind skipping both of the like quote-unquote broken heroes honestly
because I think like the Marcy for example has looked really good against
SF, some Ursa's, like these heroes that just get on top of SF and burst it.
Lifestealer, that's also what V2N used against an SF in one.
So I do think teams are getting better at figuring out how to deal with it.
It's not necessarily that they're not good.
It's that if a team is dangling something right now and they're this late in the tournament,
you know, these guys are not screwing around.
They have something that is not a theoretical answer to it.
They have something that is actually an answer to it.
OK, I do think that this is actually quite cool.
So the SD first pick, I like it too, because you have a lot of fives that are taken out, both Kaori,
I was going to say Saksa, which obviously is on the other team, they can both play it on Aurora, of course.
At the same time, you have Yandex, they get to close their phase with the hero that we've talked about a lot for.
You know the correct reasons, it's TA, it's Watson, it's super good as well.
You're one of the heroes that doesn't care too much about SD, you know you have your refraction,
you can maybe still link out with your refraction when you do get ulted by him.
So overall, Yandex must be quite happy with the situation.
Definitely. I mean, well, you can see yet to lose on it. Happy to lock that in first no matter what that's a that's a crazy
It's a disgusting stuff. That's insane. I mean, I will say like my gut feeling is
The moment I see a TA come out so early. I think there are so many picks to counter this
Mm-hmm. You if you're Aurora like you've got to have some sort of
Big answer, you know, not so not a casual answer
And I feel like it does need a big answer as well just based on like the
Current way that people are playing
Dota in this meta TA always seems to get off to a good start
Yeah, put the traps down and be like level seven when the offlaners level five and just snowball the game with a deso
And that's the thing with the TA. Obviously, they're very hard to like
Gank because you've got the traps laying down to get all that extra vision
Yeah, you know, you pair it with something like a tree or whatever. It's just you know where everyone is on the map at all
Yeah, and this is this is where you start considering that the trees and then the heroes that are being dangled
The the later goes it all onto into the draft. It's like, okay. Well now
It's less likely they can comfortably pick that answer that they had prepared for it
I mean also like when you play against here in my opinion, you want to like take one of two approaches
I think if you can have a draft where you collapse on this year or early
So you don't give her this early level seven eight nine five traps everywhere
You know you win the century battle with the trap. So here's like brew master. I've always been traditionally quite good
The brew is a good suggestion.
I think also for TA it helps this hero that Batrider is first phase banned in every game.
Like this hero is very good, it can run you down, but either having these brew master
lineups that will collapse on your safe lane tower, or then you have to look for the carry
matchup.
I think a carry that is semi-forgotten is like TB.
TB has always had a good matchup into TA.
You have good map play, you have high armor, you're pretty chill.
This used to be one of the answers.
You can flex it, you can lane it into it.
I was thinking about maybe the Viper, just because I also think against Tree, it's pretty nice because you can take off the living armor now,
now that it's like damage block.
And in lane, like hypothetically, a tiny Viper should be pretty good.
I'm not saying it has to be a tiny Viper playing in the off.
It definitely can be.
But it can be, and that's what feels really good.
I mean, there's also a potential that it's just a Viper pick mid, and you know, you can pick like tiny Enigma, for example, against TA,
which that is one of the like age old answers.
I wouldn't do it into Tree because you've already interrupted the blockhole,
But there's options for where Aurora can go with these two picks.
I really like both of these.
I also think that they're kind of on the money.
Like I think as well, like Soxa has mainly been playing.
Why do I keep saying Soxa? It's Mera.
Like I just keep messing it up.
Both high tier TI winning players.
That definitely is true.
But you know, you just have the tiny with the tossback.
You're very good against the TI.
Avalanche of course.
And like you already said, Viper into TI.
I would be a little afraid if I'm Yannick.
So maybe here you can look to like Soxa actually, you know,
having a hero or like your mid laner that can look at this lane because you know if it is a tiny viper
they kind of have to play aggressive on this lane so if you have heroes that can look at this lane
and like turn the play around that's pretty good yeah if you if you kill the viper it's it's a gg
for viper he just cannot i mean he has more farming potential now with the w i'm the st is there
it's also the stocky boy yeah true you know exactly uh i think like maybe rosta is pretty good for
in general they really like the hero and I feel like a guy to run in in stun
viper or tiny when they're when they're being aggressive and annoying like
Ross is pretty good at turning stuff around with a with a decent TP I mean
as long as he gets like an early boots let me see what else there is I mean I
would also say overall against auras heroes there's like Mars is always I
would say a pretty good option like locking these heroes like into place is
nice you did called the shadow shaman which is good there's brew
Interesting so they're gonna go for the brew just also
It's just good overall against Estee
It's also a cool answer like to viper in a way you don't really deal with brew like while you're tanky if you get overrun
Of course, you can die or you can just get lifted
Yeah, these heroes just don't do anything to brew right now like he's always gonna get the ult off
He can do the annoying 33 thing where he's just like running at you as the regular guy until he's 10% HP
And then pressing split. Yeah, it's it's it's honestly
It's such an annoying way to play brew that I only really saw people start doing with the new reworked in
We talked about it earlier as well
I've been liking the new tech of like you take the orchid on the brew and you just sort of
Silent someone and then have like a storm or something zipping and yeah, you can do it
It's getting instant
It's especially good at like a lot of people would answer brew with like weaver and lane for example
And then you would get the orchid against a lot of the brew counters get countered by orchid, so
They at least get their classic Abaddon. I would say overall they're quite stable when it comes to their cores, but their cores, they need the stable setup.
Like Viper and Abaddon, they love sitting in their lanes, taking over their lanes, not having anything random happen to them.
And I think at least for now, the brewmaster can be a bit of an X-vector, because while Abaddon is going to sit in his lane, you'll be very happy.
You don't really interact that much with brew, like you can TP over and pop a shield, but overall I think if Yandex have a good start to the early game,
start to the early game and if they find the right mid-pick, I think this Brew plus
mid combination is not really answered yet.
Yeah, for Aurora, I mean they need some... I'm looking at like Ember Spirit, Void
Spirit, Storm. This is why I love Shadow Shaman as a pick so much early on in the
draft because like it makes it not as comfortable to pick like all the classic
Spirit mid heroes, which it always feels like teams are lacking later on in the draft and
Of course, the index does has they have absolute last pick. So
they could pick something like
Pretty cheesy for a tier junior mid like it look for example if Aurora picks storm then like Queen of Pain couldn't come out
Just to completely shit on the storm in lane. It's not like a
Horrific game-ending matchup like Ember Huskar or something
But tier junior will have a good game and when that guy has a good game he friggin pops off man
I think he's definitely he's improved a lot
Maybe to me he's one of like the more like improved players overall on like the tier one scene when it comes to mid players
Because I think he had a bit of a shaky entrance
I mean they still they placed very well, but some of his performances, you know, they were 50-50 at times
I think right now he's he's a lot more stable
Youngbeck's batting off lane is there
So that kind of mean there is a chance that Viper can just be mid. Yeah
Yeah, I mean Timber can also play as a mid so I was kind of thinking like also true
Did they do they want some like melee strength guy? They don't want I don't pry mole or something like that
But I think there's more than likely an off-laner. Just just like looking at all the angles that they could take here
I guess so just kind of covering their boxes
Maybe you don't want to like, you know make sure if they do flex and you feel like this timber goes into the off-laner
I mean we've seen 33 timber like it's just one of these heroes that he's gonna be parked there
It's hard to take like take that lane over then you have a bad and in the safe lane viper in the mid lane
It could be kind of the Falcons to the Falcons classic three guys that just
cancer three different lanes
Okay, so they do go for the void spirit
I mean, you know, I actually kind of prefer this over ember like I respect the ember ban from yandex
Because I think it is otherwise it is a really good ember game
But like ember against brew is it's just another thing that doesn't stop him from splitting whereas void spirit
Once you get the aggs, even with a cheeky remnant, you can get them at low HP.
It feels like it's a better answer to the brew, but I think Ember would have been a better answer to the other three heroes.
Like Triant, you take off the armor, and TA, you take off the refraction.
I think they're probably playing for this way, where it's a little harder, at least for Aurora now, to make a collapse play onto this TA lane,
where you're bad and go through the gate, you go through this viper lane, you bring your Ember with some flame guard, some chains.
He's like he's less committal than voids bird. So like maybe that's you know one thing they did value
Yeah, if what's it like goes that's true and tea. Yeah, I actually kill him
Yeah, 100 but I think one or the other is kind of what Aurora wanted anyway
How does sardar do against a voidspear at mid?
It's definitely sardar favor by a little bit. It's a it's sort of favorite
Maybe the problem is that there's like SD viper. That's kind of annoying for you
But they don't care. That's why you're here. Keep that shit up. That's a hundred dollars, right in your pocket, dude
I mean double minus armor TA plus Sardar. I feel like good lord any hero is going to melt to that combo
It always feels so good and
Yeah, it's nice. I've been doing overall in the tournament. I haven't checked the stats. That's a great
I know that no one played it. He had one pop off plenty of people have played yeah, but like specifically he's the one that
The classic
Yeah, he's played it and it looked very good, like he had one pop-off game, he had one that was a bit harder, they threw it towards the end, but this hero is quite good in the mid lane, especially from the last pick, I will say, and like Jhin has already mentioned, you have like double-minus armor, you can play for Roche, that is very good, but there is also like, it can be a little sus towards the mid game, I think the Viper SD can be annoying for the slaughter, so to me, it's going to matter a lot really during his brew split, you get to keep moving forward, because if you don't, I think Aurora do have decent counter play to stop you.
Yeah, I definitely agree. Do you feel like the TA is properly answered here, like Tiny plus Viper?
Whenever I see a Viper off lane, I'm always thinking like, how can they like screw this guy over as early as possible into the game?
Like, do they start with a tri-lane? Do they start with like a smoke to his lane?
I actually think they could, yeah, for sure.
If you do, you just GG out. Like, that's how a bad Viper off-lane can feel sometimes.
Because the off-lane should be quite good for the Tiny Viper. Like, TA is very susceptible, like, in this lane.
So I that I wouldn't mind if they like do some, you know socks are goes to the like start in the safe lane
Do something against the Viper even like vice versa. I think this is something that both teams need to respect in this early
Yeah, I agree. I think that could be interesting
We still talk we're still talking we're still talking we're still talking. Hmm. Let me see how do we feel about drafts overall?
I would slide there you slide edge the draft gradient. Well, I'm like a 58 42 a slide edge me too
I mean, I feel like Brewmaster is not properly, it's not exactly answered because I feel like he can get
tanky enough that when the Void Spirit Ags comes out, it's not that good, but there weren't a lot of
like last picks that Aurora could have done to get them one of these Spirit type heroes and also answer
that's true. Like the Brewmaster, this is just a very common situation on this patch.
People are good enough at drafting that you can't, you can never get the perfect last pick.
Alright, well we might get some insight into that now. We got slacks on the sidelines.
absolutely you might you might get some insight or I might completely grief this
interview so good to have you here thank you so much for doing us KB again
welcome back it's been a minute since I got to talk to you it's exciting I'll
push it through the ringer here I'm gonna ask you very difficult interview
questions this time okay what's the worst thing that could happen to your team
in this draft my dad gets cooked he gets ganked like five times by shaman has no
game ta is like level seven my vibe is over three that's how we lose absolutely
That Viper offline is a little riskier confident enough in the commo to be able to handle with them
I mean, I'm confident about my players, but I'm kidding
But I can't say we like played this too much obviously like if you look at WS is like history is like pretty much another play by
But they're like good players. So I believe in them. All right Viper's not that hard, right?
I'll use like so literally one button
Two buttons. Okay, okay. All right last question for you a lot of negative armor coming out from the enemy team this time
Did you talk to him at all about that? Were you surprised by the Slardar?
What was the talk about for that last pick bit?
We talked about it, but not surprised.
Also, I don't think he's strong. We have Viper, which is like, I mean, I feel like in Slardar, it's kind of 50-50,
but like, SD, we have Ferg, and then we have Shield, the Mabba, so overall, fine people to play against.
This man is not surprised by anything.
Not at all. All right, let's get into the game and see if this game has a surprise again.
We'll see if the surprise is there. We might just see a quick first blood coming in as we get Watson with the first blood on Mira
He's definitely right about this WS and how many Viper games he's played according to Donabuff
He's only played five games of Viper professionally and the last time he played Viper. He was playing for a team called rectify
It was in 2022. Yeah, he's getting rectified right now because he is getting dry land
He can't really do much and Soxa is still going to be sticking around.
This has always been a thing whenever you're playing against the Offlane wiper.
Like you kill him once, you kill him twice. His game is kind of cooked.
And you also have Brewmaster in the Offlane who's playing against Zero stuns.
They can use destruction, maybe, but he's going to be AOK.
Especially if he gets the level 2 with the Drunken Bloat Brawler.
Then he gets the evasion. Then he gets that extra movespeed.
And this Adelaide is going to stop all three of them.
Socks are taking some heavy hits from WS, getting run all the way towards the tower.
Ignoring Watson might get Socks down low enough, and there's the pop.
And he's gonna be fine with the boots of smoke.
Oh, the blood grenade?
Missed it.
Oh!
You're missing that blood grenade, unfortunately, and now there's a little bit of a situation
as WS is gonna be the one who gets run down.
Watson losing that Falcon Blade, but they get this kill, and Maladich is gonna get credit
for it on WS, so the thing that was most scary is starting to happen and now this
blood grenade lands, Sox is chasing, has the shackles, needs some help, has
maledich here, and that will bind Mira, so they want the tiny and they do get the
tiny. This lane is not looking that great and it is a tri lane that has shown
itself to be quite effective and we've talked about tree protector lanes in the
past seemingly unloosable. However with that brought in another hero, like are they
Not gonna be losing this time. They did a little bit of deforestation in WS using the calling blade and
Removing a bunch of trees and now these trees are back
You're gonna need to find another angle and this game like this time around. It's very difficult for him to recover
He has one zero one build and not getting too much out of it. And also you saw the right clicks
It's a lot of right click. Yeah, you have three in protector like the highest damage in the game 96 and what shadows
When he hits like a truck, he has 70 damage in level 2, but as compared to Dream Protector, it's really not that high and they're still sticking to this tri-lane.
Theori, also lurking in the shadows, potentially using this shadow demon, they also have very limited amount of damage and only one stun.
Shackle, thinking about binding somebody, Maladage goes in, now they've got the hex for a second on 2K Wari.
Avalanche lands on a three, but Maladage sticking with KWari, forced to use that disruption onto the dream protector and the chase back the other way to put damage on the WS.
We're in Wotsun now with the shackles, uses the side blades, it hits WS as well as Mira,
but they just don't have everything it takes to get these kills.
Man, I'm so glad these Trilings are back. It's been like good.
Yeah, it's been like good 10 years or something.
Toss under the tower, Wotsun gets the refraction back up, blood grenades are flying everywhere.
I don't know if I've seen this many blood grenades, it's an all out war in the top lane.
They're throwing them back and forth.
More value you're getting from Blood Grenades.
And they're still not done.
Maladish, he's back stabbing, resetting.
A couple of seconds, both abilities are going to be available.
Kaori bounds.
They've got the leech seed.
Now the shackles out of the tiny and you talked about the right quick damage.
It's there.
And Maladish, he gets that.
They're still healing up.
Another Blood Grenade thrown over.
Maladish is going to walk away.
And he will be fine.
It's for nothing for Yandex.
I just want to say, by the way, for everybody who doesn't have an inside camera view of
what we look like at the moment, I've never seen you that excited.
We've worked together for a very long time.
You clapped, you gave like this big like, oh, hell yeah, here we are.
I rarely see that.
Yeah, for a good reason.
I remember when back when the trilanes were invented, I think it was one of the WCGs,
GG's WESG's back in the day, they're never called.
I think it was like e-Home who kind of invented it with Sven Lina, plus one more hero in the lane.
Just like stacking stuns might have been Leshrac, but this is like back in Dota 1 days we're talking about.
And it was like so controversial at the time, and then everybody else started to do it as well.
But still keeping to this try lane, still 0 kills on the board for Aurora.
So is that with Sylar back in the day?
Yeah, this is pretty Sylar.
Oh, okay, damn.
The whole history coming through.
Toss into the Amlench, and they will look to get on the board finally, and they do.
Disruption, the try-to-try continues, and Soxa now, after the disruption, WS starting to hit away and get a little bit more out of the lane,
as he hits that last right click, gets himself a double kill, walks and still alive, but finally WS coming back.
This is the most action we've had in a lane in a while.
And it's a good action.
This also reminds me what they are doing on the index on something similar.
Virginia trying to put some pressure, but something similar that did happen like two dream leagues, or three dream leagues ago,
when the Hawk was the one playing the off lane and he was the one getting sacked.
They were also running like a little bit of a tri-lane to roaming situation with position four,
was left completely alone playing some Nightstalker and making sure that he is playing from behind
but other lanes are getting all the benefits from the roaming position 4 and DM, I'd say
that he is one of the best offlaners to utilize these situations where he's not getting the
most but he's still getting a lot of impact. This guy had the lane with 9 class, this guy
wasn't even reigning, like if you think about his DB's, his Slark's position 4, Monkey King's,
what they were on their prime, it's just that they don't feel as good to be DM in a lot of
these situations. Like you have to know how to adapt to the situation every single time
in one week two. K-R is like a F9, let's pause this, it's bugged.
What's going on and Maladich eventually just gives it up as the century comes out. But
one shine of peace. Maladich just sitting there, the true particular, I was gonna say,
you know, we've talked about how he doesn't lose lanes, but it's only got a 33% win rate
in the tournament after 12 games.
So it may not lose lane, but it does lose game.
Probably more so than I would have thought.
And then we haven't really talked about Vtune at all
on this Abaddon, but we've seen him.
He's willing to move on this hero.
He moves mid, he moves top.
He's played very well.
I know the win rate doesn't exactly reflect that,
but the games we've seen from him have looked really good.
And it's something we've talked about
with Vtune in specifics is he doesn't die a lot.
Yeah, he's sitting at the sub 2 deaths per game on average, which is pretty impressive.
He is playing a lot of these unkillable heroes.
Playing, this is like his fourth game on Abaddon, fifth game, but yeah, he played Medusa,
which he ended up with 0-4 and 0, kind of ruined his KDA at the time,
but he has been very impressive so far at this tournament.
He's definitely impressive.
It's him and Mikoto being actually in the top 5 least deaths.
Makoto averaging 2.2 bets per game, which is still pretty insane and they are both of them are kind of in the top five when it comes down to KDA.
Tiny caught for a moment, hence Chica figures, and Mira tossing him back has the avalanche still alive with the blood grenade again.
Disruption for the save from Kaori, and Mira will end up surviving.
Good save from Kaori.
Chura Junior, like we were mostly looking at the top lane, talked for like 5 minutes what's happening in the top lane.
Chura Junior is completely dominating this lane.
I also think Aurora is going to be having a massive issue, not having the playmaker, because your Tiny didn't get too much out of the lane, he can't start a fight.
Your Void Spirit is also getting shut down, this hero doesn't really like the play from behind.
And you also have Viper as your off laner who wants to be static.
Want to see what kind of build he's going to be going for.
So he did go for Barber Trist, a little bit more right-click oriented build, which means you don't have Booth of Travel to TP anywhere where action is.
So Aurora might need to take it slow.
Barrow time was used, but they got the hex. They didn't do a lot of damage while he was borrowing the time, so he's only at half health.
He's got the Aphotic Shield, but there are three heroes down, bottom trying to get a kill out of each unit.
He's juke-ing, jiving, but, well, not looking like he's surviving.
That's sure Junior will get the kill on the Abaddon.
That tri-lane, like you were saying, it slowed down the tiny enough where that blink dagger is going to be so slow and I don't really know what you'd do if your Aurora kind of turned all the aggression that looking at Yannick's lineup could be activated pretty early on, especially with the lane that your junior had.
It's worrisome, especially Maladich who's having an amazing start to this game.
I'm really worried for them because they also don't have, we talked about ways of starting the fight, but they also don't have lockdown.
Brewmaster, I would say, has guaranteed split in a teamfight. You have Void Spirit, which is not a lot of control.
Maybe even after the eggs, I don't think he's going to be able to die from 100 to 0 with living armor behind him.
maybe some like blank counter initiation from slaughter. So once you get the split-off things get a lot to mess here for the enemy team
And I would say that brewmaster is one of the best heroes in the game to deal with Abaddon
You proc his ulti you cycling him into the air, which means that that borrowed time is not going to be as effective
We saw the borrowed time not be effective in that bottom lane initially and it's one of the things that I think teams have done well
Against me tuned despite the fact that he's not dying in the games that they've been able to punish him
They're making sure that he's not getting enough out of that far of time and
Brewmaster DM we talked about how he's had solo lanes before playing with nine class, but here
I mean he's kind of freed but not really as high trying to get the jump on him with amplified damage not even close like this
This is not a good read on a brewmaster as a hero this hero gets super tanky
Especially if he drops down below 50 h 50 percent with liquid courage
He's gonna be a okay. Midas online, gonna continue to farm up. Unfortunately Midas doesn't give you levels anymore, but still very good item on the offlane brumaster.
Just for the extra gold. And there's been like couple of bills that brumasters go for with their orchid if you need to have a little bit more control.
Or Midas into agonim scepter and then you become super annoying to deal with because you just don't die.
don't die. Like your rulings, they don't have enough damage also to kill the rulings,
which is going to be, this is not like to spend or any like battle theory care that we were
talking about that can just square up and kill them straight away.
They've got these first two kind of big items for Gandam. They got the Desolator finish on the
Templar assassin, Blink Dagger for Cheer Junior, and that, if honestly they're willing to with
Watson too, you can just play aggressive at this point. And like you were mentioning, the lack of
saves a lack of maybe the way of sustaining this is going to be problematic for Aurora to survive the initial onslaught that comes in from Yandex.
With the Desolator and with the Grows of Haze, you're also looking at objectives, right?
Getting Rowe, surely. Having that Aegis, pressuring the side of Aurora, what are those answers?
How do you deter Yandex from just following the road map that they have that looks so simple?
Obviously, Tiny's do good. As long as you have Tiny with the Blink Fager, you always have something.
Yeah, you always have something. We saw a good amount of comebacks coming out from Shadowfin plus tiny combos
where they tossed you right on top of the Requiem that was getting channeled. This time around, it's not as good
but you have two very good DKB piercing abilities, kind of anti-carry, Shadow Demon and Viper Strike.
Templar Assassin and Slard, they really hate to play into these abilities because once you
decide to go on them, they kind of can't move. So in the next couple of minutes, Yandex will try to
put slightly more pressure on the map with this deso, and then it opens up to Roche.
So between 15 and 20, between Roche on and Tormentor, if they're the ones controlling both of these objectives,
and in theory they should, with the advantage that they do have, it does feel like the game could break.
And they're going to go for even earlier Roche having Shadow Shaman team to team.
So many tools to take Roche.
So many tools to just kind of focus these objectives.
Sometimes we see these Roches and we think it's early when they're going for them.
half-minute 18, go to the minute 18, into the tournament 20, into the shrine at 21.
But this is Roche into potentially a 14-minute shrine fight, if you want to play that way.
And it's not the fastest Roche. Obviously the sign-up gets a little bit quicker,
but it's a very doable Roche, with corrosive haze and these serpent hordes.
This is such an early age to now try to take advantage with.
Watson was playing on a different side, not really contributing too much to that Roche.
And it's gonna be Slardar picking it up.
I think it comes down to what I was saying about playing into
Madmatch Humps, playing into this Viper Strike, playing into Shadow Demon Alti.
So he knows once he goes in that he will be heavily targeted by one of those two abilities
and then most likely he's gonna die so have engages on him, might be actually smart.
And I think Watson is gonna play a bit of a different entry to the fight,
not necessarily going in first immediately for blow-up damage.
And he has a bit of a protection as well, having a dream protector behind him, as we said, split, guaranteed to be used in a fight, which also allows them to have much easier, just fight focus who they want to be going for.
Have that Cyclone have that way to disable somebody who's really the worst of the worst to deal with from Aurora
Definitely see through
Being a big point of contention as he's going for the Zaganum scepter just two pieces away from it at the same time
They're trying to form these stacks and get biker into the hurricane pike. Maybe the disengage from
the
Slaughter that's trying to blink on top of him. So he's got to be very careful and
And it is all Watson right now. He's top of the network by 2,000 gold
He's very happy with what he's been able to get out of the game and despite having this desolator
He's not really looked to fight just yet
Now that you've course looking for the early short you want that information with the eyes of the forest
Try to get that vision down allow you to have that initiation with the slardar
Maybe make some of these smoke plays a little bit deeper on the Aurora side. They saw it
They saw this century being placed. They have century. They have trapped so they know crush and
And the natural scratch is on, disruption saved, this is a problem though for the Viper, he's just too far out, Viper's strike gets used but it really doesn't amount to much.
Might get the kill out of the Shadow, shot him a little bit later on with the chase out of Kaori and they will get Waxin involved, so that's going to be two kills here for Yandex and they don't even lose Soxa.
So he's got Serpent Ward so he'll come in on the tier one tower with the Deso, they're also going to take this tower very quickly, they have a catapult to us, you know, a company in it as well.
I'm not sure the serpent wards were needed. They have catapult, they have desso.
Maybe they could have saved it for the mid lane as well because right now they do feel like they're in a full control of this game.
George jr. Something that we did mention is
he is very good at counter initiating as well once they get the initial jump.
So again, you're gonna be able to get your spells off and very nice ulti from Maladage, making sure that he catches two of them.
He catches shadow demon and he catches wiper once he comes out of disruption.
Radiance, that's a bit of a later Radiance timing, even though he's second on the network.
Now his timings are gonna increase, probably can actually start to forget a lot of farm
on Avedon.
Point Crush, they do have Avalanche, they do have Void Spirit, this is jumping from Cheer
Junior, Aether Remnant connects, he's got an Aegis, but I'm unable to break it anyway.
We've seen a couple of games like this for Aurora, where it just feels as though Vtune
has to farm well enough to bring his team back out of the game and being capable hands
where they're kind of an item behind.
So I'm not, definitely not counting them out yet at all.
And I do kind of have faith in V2 and make fights like that happen.
If he's able to sustain in these fights and continue to whack away, I can see Aurora bring
this one back despite the significant net worth lead at this point in the game.
That's a lot of copium, the beat copium.
Leave it in, Avalanche comes through, and the fight for a kill on a Soxa.
As long as they're getting kills, it's fine, and maybe getting something out of the map,
but also be aware that there's potentially, like if they find something, Shadow Shaman
is still going to respawn in 15 seconds.
Aegis, expiring in... likely over the minute.
It's been a long time with this Aegis, and you can see Watson just with so much free
space on his side of the map is continuing to just extend that lead between him and V2.
Just by the radiance, take a tour, Jira with the blink in, crush! Oh gosh! The damage on
a V2 almost just completely nullifying him. He's forced to back away and this is an avalanche
to kind of sacrifice your life, but they get the control that a Strupp can try to take.
Another crush in two seconds.
Well, and also it's the Hurricane that pulls WS closer to the side of Yandex. So they get
this kill to V2 and the look over at the Viper, they've got another crush! The Hurricane
From the Wild Wing is what pulls the Viper closer as he's trying to retrieve from the fight,
and now he's unable to leave, he ends up dead.
This fight was also without Rhoemaster, DM just finished off his Agatomceptor.
We even haven't seen the full force of themian Dix's lineup in action.
No, that's what worries me the most.
I hope you did, uh, did feel good, but hey, you started to see a fight like that without
the brew even being evolved and there's a lot of worry to what Aurora can get done.
Yeah, Mikoto, like he's, he played into very bad matchup for him.
He played into Slardark, he got rotated on, lost his tower.
Not involved in any of the kills, same goes for Abaddon, he did receive one of those assists
with the rotation, but other than that it has been a pretty silent game for Aurora.
Knowing that they got tri-laned, they got shut down in that lane, mid lane was won by default,
and Brumasser he was more than fine trading the farm with Abaddon.
11-3, there's not been a lot to write home about for Aurora.
Recaps have been short, the cheer junior now farming bottom for free and having all this
space where now he might find Vtune as well as Mira.
They've got that obbs on the high ground but they don't elect to jump onto the sword art.
Their vision game is also insane.
If we think about ice in the forest, you have traps with silence now upgraded, they have
Brawling boards too. Yeah, we haven't even seen brewmaster using ulti. So no have corrosive haste
You'll always have vision of the heroes that you want to jump and you also have slaughter who's extremely farmed shura junior
Usually you don't see
Slaughter in the top three. I would say this hero doesn't farm that wall you need your shard
But he is having that good of a game. Yeah that he is staying in top three
So they're gonna go meanwhile Watson's gonna solo take the tour you mentioned this vision
I'm looking at the map. It's disgusting where they have vision
Like the ward in between the tier 2 and the tier 3 over mid
There's a ward by the tier 2 top like they've got eyes in the forest multiple in that bottom river where you're gonna look to farm if
You're trying to stay a little bit more safe on the radiant side. The vision game is
It's pretty sick. Yeah, these
Pro players stupid, but they just D word and make life easier kill all the traps. Yeah, all the eyes
It's not expensive. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, kill on them.
It's a very difficult, like, it also requires you to be away from the team, somebody needs to be there.
The Centries are, of course, limited, and it makes it very difficult.
They also are going to be afraid of getting the jump.
You have very good catch coming up from Shaman, both of the supports as well.
On the Endex, they do have greedy enchantments, so they will scale even more.
It's Shackles, Surports, and a kill on Amira.
So, so one of those positions where like, Aurora, I'd love to see them pick up a gem,
knowing that they're in a position like this, eyes of the forest, as well as the traps,
but they're just so far behind that, committing that goal to a gem, it just seems kind of...
Yeah, you buy that gem, on a sport, you lose the gem, you're cooked, like you're...
As a support...
Yeah, you don't have the luxury of being able to go for a gem behind 14,000 net worth in 21 minutes into the game.
Good gem game, not good gem moment in the game, currently.
They're trying though, and I see V2 and Makoto's kind of far behind.
He is in a bit of a rough spot, they find V2, they've got the hex, the chicken fingers,
the borrowed time, committed to leave this fight, TP's even coming through for Marora,
the answers may not be available to them. They fake back with this smoke. They might re-engage.
Oh, I love this play.
They're going to reach out a little bit too far.
Knowing that Aurora will expect them to play the bottom part of the map, because Watson
is playing super aggressive, faking that he has this whole team behind him, and rest of
the team, they are making a move. Let's see if we're going to be able to find some 4D
Chess as they go up into the Triangle. Can they get past Kaori? They do blink past him.
There's the Disruption. It will find the Shadow Deen and V2 gets out of the Triangle, but they will get a kill.
So it's something for the side of Yandex as they continue just sending these units over as a trio,
and making sure that they shut down really any semblance of a game for Aurora.
It's been quite tough for them to just find an available skate route,
And the eyes of the forest, you may think you're safe within those trees, but those trees are owned by Yandex.
Every single objective on the map.
Getting pressured by Yandex, Shadow Shaman Wars are off cooldown.
Now they can group up.
There's a bit of a man up issues at the moment, but if he drops the wards, they're gonna be able to kill another tower.
And Roshan is gonna respawn in a minute and 30 seconds, because they killed it very early on.
They're killing on Radiant's side, yep.
Obviously the replacement for getting a gem is the shard on Void Spirit, but it's still not as effective.
Yeah, he wants to farm with that devil.
You'll get the catch!
Not about it!
You'll try to get the kill to the Tree of Protector and they've left him all alone, so that is gold for each unit in the amount of $369.
Very nice, they managed to gravently sum gold, but the problem is they aren't losing so much.
Because, yeah, the map is very small, they have vision in every single area of the map.
It's just very annoying to play in these type of heroes.
And I've always been a big fan, I keep going back to China.
This has been their support duo from back in the days, from like a decade ago.
and they were playing Shadow Shaman and Trinit Protector
to be able to, because they kind of complement each other
in what they want to be doing.
One protects the tower, the other also has a lot of tower damage.
You can take objectives, but the one that can delay the game,
the other can even go for a split pushing action.
And Shadow Shaman, a lot of the time, I think the other one,
the offlaner that they like to run, was Tidehunter.
Support that if he gets his spells off,
kind of is winning you the teamfight.
Team Fighter, protective protector does the same, allowing you to get the overgrowth when they jump in.
Shadow Shaman will always have Bullseye on him, making sure that you want to take him out first, but not an easy task.
And now they're going to smoke, we tune Radiance off.
Not easy to kill Shadow Shaman, especially with the additional layer of getting through foul play.
They haven't lost the tower yet on the index, and the thing is, with your being so far behind for Aurora,
I mean, normally, even if it's close, you have to commit to these towers, otherwise you're going to get healed up.
Being so far behind, putting the commitment onto these towers feels like such a risk that you put yourself in a bad position by almost being in a stationary position for what time it'll take to take a tower.
There's no fights really being started by Aurora. They want to find farm anywhere they can on the map, but the map is so small for them, and Yandex is getting so much out of what they control.
Me too, and he's here for a moment to try and get this
ancient creep camp, but this is just not working out for him.
They're committed in, they've got the Crush, they'll have the Hex,
they have the Chicken Fingers too, and he's forced to borrow time.
Yandex, they get that out, they know that he's not going to be willing to fight without his ults anymore,
and they can just move around the map and go for more elsewhere.
Soxa on the hunt.
Sentry down.
Mist, Mira.
Roshan gonna roar.
They can't really take the fight.
Maybe they could try to somehow sneak in.
They have really no blink daggers available yet,
other than Mira, who's on the other side of the map,
and he's the one getting caught.
TP from Brew, who I don't think has used the split yet,
but tossed towards WS.
Mira gets the kill on the Satsa,
and now they do use that split.
They've got the crush.
They'll have the control on the WS to take out a second.
Both the Tiny and the Viper die all the while.
Watson's got himself an Aegis in two shots,
the Shadow Demon.
I don't even know if Kaori knows what hits.
What hit him?
He tipped him.
Watson, you can see.
No reaction whatsoever.
Fully focused on this game.
Big, big difference between two carries.
7,000 ahead in a 27 minute game.
He's just farming the whole map.
Shaman, we saw there.
He doesn't like to play into any break mechanic.
Use wiper strike.
His foul play does not proc.
Daedalus now completed.
That's going to be another tower.
They have two plays right now on Aurora. They need like some massive tossback into Viper Strike or Shadow Demon Alti into tier 4 towers.
The other play is Shift-Enter, GG-Enter, because...
I think that was the other one.
It's a really difficult one.
Like getting Avalanche on the top stack, it's going to be onto the Templar Assassin who doesn't have an Aegis, so if you get this first kill, if you get this first kill, you're going to have to get through him again.
Overgrowth is used by Validitch.
The damage with the Viper Strike on the right hook coming out from the Viper are quite nice,
and they will at least get that one kill.
They did take the Aegis, they got the Shackles on them,
and Kota with those are broken immediately with the Aether Emni landing off of the Shadow Shaman.
Now Sox is in trouble, so two heroes dead on Yandex.
They jump in on Chura Jr. 4 Kaori.
They also take out the other support of Mira.
Both supports lost on Aurora, they'll start to try and retreat,
but Yandex is losing their two supports.
They could sit here, they could just take the tower and back away.
I have an awful fight from Aurora overall, but it just doesn't seem like it nets them enough.
Yeah, it was better than I expected, getting the tossback and also removing the Aegis of
Overgrowth onto four of them, but still he dies getting struck by Viper Strike, taking the Aegis
out of Temporal Assassin. So still showing the power of this tiny tossback, like, yeah,
it has always been one of the best, if not the best ability to defend the base width.
If you get that off, I've seen it through the 20-plus years of Dota, this hero can't win games.
Calm down there, old man.
My Dota backtrack!
I remember 20 years ago!
Let me get your cane. I'll help you out of here. Jesus.
Where am I? Like, what...
Yeah, the computers are great, the graphics still the same. It runs smoothly.
The little fire meat built for Junior, he just picked up that agonist scepter, wants to try and make sure that they can rip through these heroes on the side of Aurora.
And Sardar's still farming well enough, he's still ahead of the Abaddon, and you were talking about how this hero doesn't exactly farm the most amazing in the game.
But with the start that he had, he's just been kind of boosted into a position where, unless he really rolls apart, he's staying here at the top of the network.
They allow him to have that good of a start where you feel so comfortable to be able to get extra bit of farm
Stutter and crush and this is pre level 20 once you get to level 20
You one shot the creep wave with the shard extra 125 damage on level 20 does allow you to do that to go to jump in double step
This is soxia now GM going the other way avalanche is going to land on the shadow jump
They've got the bind as well as the crush
Disruption saved from Kaori, but he's caught.
He's caught.
He's on a Validance, he'll throw the Overgrowth, so they got the continue control, they'll get the kill out of Makoto.
Don't have the kill, is he shackles?
He check, in trouble, Kaori's dead, the saves are gone, the avalanche is there, the borrowed time is going to be popped, so
now he'll try to run and does get out, but the chase with the Cyclone walks up WS,
and they will get this kill out of the Viper after the hex is completed.
He caught him with the Cyclone.
So another Cyclone on a v2, and he no longer has the borrowed time.
Don't blink for two.
They'll get the silence with the trap and the shard addition, so B-June's dead, 4 heroes
on the side of Aurora, and Yandex just continuing to roll, Serpent Ward's placed over bottom
and it's going to be a bottom center act to go with all the kills that they just got.
They don't have enough.
Also, Voidsprick, using two steps in a game like this, you can't allow yourself to do
that.
The replenish time is 20 seconds, which is very, very long.
The Simulate without level 20 talent with the outer ring is not going to get you out
of the trouble.
They are severely underleveled, and that's going to be another tower.
They are going to back off, reset, wait until they have their cooldowns available.
Pretty long cooldowns on their side.
Templar Assassin and Slardar, they don't care too much about cooldowns.
Other than BKBs, but everything else is a relatively long cooldown.
We can see the Ghostseptors.
How many do they have?
One, two, two available at the moment, but I also see Nullifier being built by Slardar,
Who's actually gonna get it in the next couple of minutes actually minutes and a half, and I think he's fine
Over to your junior toss into the ether remnant and the control is there
But is the damage quite there it is not enough children various might smart play by him
You waited until shadow given all to you ran out so he doesn't get dispelled
Sox hello the look over at Watson
PKB overgrowth committed the kill of the chatter shove another gonna chase out of the template assassin who doesn't have an ages
He's trying to survive, but he ends up dead!
Socks are watching, both gone, yet you survived on this Sardar,
but all of a sudden Aurora with a glimmer of hope when you kill the carry,
open up the valve on the copium tank, because it's back off.
Their cooldowns were still not ready.
Brue Master, now thinking about maybe going in with the rest of the team,
there was no split available.
Enter a junior.
Oh, the Jimmy just got...
But we talked about this currently now in a position where you feel like you need to
have it to take away this vision.
I understand it, but it was gone very well.
We have like stats like, you know, Aegis power play and stuff like that.
We need the gem power play to see how long have you been holding the gem, how many centuries
or nobs you were able to de-word with it.
Didn't even get the ring resize before he dropped that gem.
They'll go with the 5 hex, it's on V2, there's the Prime of Split, and the Viper Strike comes through from WS, but they've got him sightcalling up into the air, V2 already used that borrowed time.
True Junior gets that kill with the sightcalling now, WS is controlled, they'll bind him up with the help of Maladich.
They're still chasing WS with the pre-master, and they'll have an avalanche to stop these blue wings of going forward, but the blink forward from Maladich, they'll look over at Saksa.
He is alive and will shackle up Makoto. They'll follow this up with a crush. They'll get this kill
He's dead too. Now they look at WS. He's trying to TP away from Alanich as well as DM and you make it a third
It's a 30,000 net worth lead for Yandex
It was a very clean execution so far from Yandex. They
Literally didn't make a single mistake up until this point where they lost their carry
And now Roshan is gonna be available in a minute potentially if they want to wait it out
But they could also start to push 30 seconds 20 seconds without ever unfortunately for them. Abaddon did not have ulti available
It's getting ripped through the borrowed time they don't care about it
Shadow shaman also has level 15 talent hex breaks, which is gonna be insanely good against Abaddon. Yeah
Abaddon trying to
Borrow all the time he can he's even listening to hoody and the blowfishes song time, but there's just not enough of it
We're 34 minutes into the game and
Have it on just seems to not have the sands ready in this one
It's tough there there's been hope there's been kills on a Watson, but
It's just falling short of where they needed to be and it almost stems directly from that trial, right?
Pretty much. Med lane is kind of worn by default with the matchups that he's playing into, one early rotation,
the rotation in the trial lane, their limited amount of damage that they have in this trial lane,
because Kaori came in slightly later as well, and then 1v1 trade.
Rommaster definitely fine with this type of a trade. Now, Refresher completed on him.
Cool. He tuned losing the chance that an Orc did for a little while.
I don't think that's gonna be too amazing, even if he gets it.
Orcid would allow them to maybe get a kill on a brewmaster if they focus him with everything.
It would be really tough still with the Living Armor, right?
With the tossback, into Orcid, right clicks, Viper Strike, should be enough.
Watchers in a two-shot from Watson.
Watson still ripping through all these heroes on Aurora.
True Junior stays smoked, doesn't find anybody,
and the split gets committed.
They'll even throw down the Serpent Ward.
They want a complete mega creeps.
Viper coming back, and DM with the Brewings in the base.
He goes to the cycle, that's gonna land on the WS.
Take it apart, I call it Kaori.
Forcing this cliff out.
True Junior with a double crush on that Blinkin, and now the refresher into yet another Split.
A Tautical here from Yandex, not over committing in any way.
Don't need to go over committing in any way either.
They will secure themselves, Mega Creeps. They know that Roche is going to be back up in 30 seconds, so they do not have to force this.
Temporal Assassin and 8 giving them options on knowing when the timings are, making sure
hey, well now we don't have Brute Split back up.
Wait for the timers, get Brute Split back up again, have ourselves in ages, get the
next rush.
Why not?
Third Eye, innate ability of TA, does allow her to do that.
Where's that third eye coming from?
Whenever I think about third eye I feel, you know, I'm starting to think about the Brood
Mother maybe.
under the hat just like the end of that twilight zone episode we hear the whole
time and he just lifts the hat up and there's a third eye
check out the road Sean Aurora obviously under the assumption that the
index kind of know it's up here up they made you tight on it because they blew
up this rock quickly great the entire Mount Rushmore into the side of the body
and Tiny, and now they will go for a Kaori.
They might have caught Soxa for a second.
But Soxa's still alive.
Kaori going, BK is going to be probably curious.
Gina, they go after WS, he's throwing the right click,
it's out of the shadow, jumping.
And the whole line of Makoto, they'll finally take out DM.
They might get Soxa.
There's two dead without Bob at Don Yandex, but Makoto goes
after their Astro step, gets away,
near a dusting, trying to keep Makoto alive.
Double jump, but there's the kill.
And double kill.
And that would be game one, going the way of Yandex.
It was a nice try in the end for Marora
to go for this type of a play.
but they do see them, they were in vicinity.
Extremely clean execution from Yandex in this one.
The way that they were sieging the high ground,
Aurora, they tried to use this cooldown on both splits.
They had in the fight when they killed the mid barracks,
but yeah, perfect perfect game pretty much from Team Yandex.
Yeah, Aurora hoping to go in and get that Roche,
hoping that Yandex were third eye blind,
but that was not the case.
They take game one, we're gonna throw to the panel
and hear what they have to say.
Yeah, thanks a lot guys.
It just keeps getting better for Yandex.
It's such a cool story.
I feel like we always get these if I obviously mouse
with the last one, but man, this is just so impressive.
I mean, they're just, they played so well.
And I will say also, it is funny, you know,
in the pregame, Jengen is like,
maybe they can go three in the safe
and like kind of destroy the Viper.
You heard KP in his interview.
He's like, what's the worst way, you know,
for you to lose this game?
He's like, TAF level seven, my Viper dies five times.
I mean, it basically happens.
So they must have talked about it in the pregame,
but then no one is there.
So from start to finish, I think Jannex,
very clinical performance here, Mr. Andrew.
It's weird because no one was on paravision. He clearly wasn't in this game, but I agree with it. You're saying Kazoo
I mean, I feel like you just you get in that shoe you get
Yeah, well, he's got the one now don't you get yourself into the situation a few times as like a viper off lane against the a you think like
How I'm gonna shit on the TA with my damage over time and then they just
Destroy you and lane a couple of times
Give the TA a little bit of a level advantage
Totally to show all of a sudden she can push out the lane and go jungle and you have the exact same TA problem
Which you know you were presented with yeah in the draft, but yeah, I mean everybody on yandex in this game played extremely well
Cheer junior on slaughter special shoutouts to him. He completely owned. I do sometimes question
Slaughter mid a little bit just because I think it's a bit risky if you don't dominate the lane
You can fall off pretty hard and fall to the like supporter off lane levels of farm
But here's the thing I want to say though the shadow shame and I think it just does too much
This hero is incredibly strong especially when you give it like into the hands of you know
Obviously the good players who also like played it, you know in this tournament in their pubs because socks are use up like he was everywhere
He started in the safe and then later they get an early role said those like other stuff
He's honestly everywhere and I think overall for Yannick's all of their players played their heroes like
Incredibly well, I will say Aurora. Maybe like they were caught like maybe sleeping a little bit and overall
I was hoping maybe they could look for a couple more plays
But whenever they did something Yandex, they were just ready and we picked our standout player here as DM
hungover been there myself
Yeah, I mean this this was incredible now just an unbelievable performance from him
Being left entirely alone in the lane
So that way they could run the tri lane on the side of Yandex, but I don't actually think he's the best player here in this game
I think the MVP of this game is actually nine class
because he did indeed train DM to lane entirely on his own for so many years on
on Paravision and then you know kicking him off even making him feel more alone
in this type of situation and DM's just like you know what I'm a wolf I'm a wolf
and I don't need a pack I'm a lone wolf as they say. No I mean he made it happen
you know you're laning against what a bad and SD they're not gonna pressure you
that much so Saxe he goes into the safe lane call it out you know the Viper TA
Just great. Yeah. Let's take a look at some cool little moments in the game
I think we're at about 13 minutes or so in this is what I was talking about with a shame and Jenkins
Yeah, this was this was sick like TA plus Sardar plus Shaman even like brewmaster knowing that you have like the fighting advantage
At this point in the game like the whole draft came together for Yandex where they could take
13-minute Roche which is very important because their dire which means the next time Roche respawns
It's very likely going to be on their side again and a lot of the time the first Roche it doesn't matter that much
It's more about preventing the enemy team from getting it on the top side so that they can go take the tormentor and then the next time
That it's blonde. So this was just
Really good drafting from them that they could take Roche that early and then really good gameplay that they actually that was like a game winning
Passage play because they picked up the early Roche
So she goes top, he stacks a bunch of camps, waits for his ult to come off cooldown, then
goes into a teamfight, they win that, he drops the wards on the tower and takes it.
I mean it's just like it's all the small things that they do correctly.
We talk about it at the start of the game, there's like where they start and then you
know Jankin shows the clip of like the early roaches.
It's not many teams that would do that.
And then it's also like later they go for like other plays, you know, where they just
know what they need to do because at this point it's 15 minutes, you play TA, if you
have the tier one you're super happy.
Look here, Aurora, they're top, but like, your Abaddon is not ready, so you're kind of inviting,
but again, I want to credit Yannick's that all the plays that they saw on the map, they took them like really quickly.
They're here with the correct heroes, you know, to make it happen now.
You have an Aegis, you have a 6k Gold lead.
Next Roach is probably also going to be yours, like the entire map belongs to you and Aurora.
They're just waiting, you know, waiting for their next item, like the next timing, their next item to do anything in here.
Then they lose their tier one. It's just rough.
Do you honestly think that's like a bit of a blunder to have Viper pushed up that far?
I understand that SD was right behind him, right?
So it's like an obvious bait, but I...
You can't be there.
I just feel like you can't do that given how the early game went for him.
You can. Especially like, you know, like you're a bad and it's like,
he's just farming, even if he TP's in, he has no radiance, he's just a shield.
Like if a play happens, nothing good will come from it.
You're either dying or bating your team.
Exactly. You're like defending yourself and nothing happens or you're losing.
So it seems like a lose-lose.
Yeah, and like here, just to go back to, you know, again, like the story of this game is that Viper, the counterpick to TA was so shut down.
And I want to compare the five through the four, you know, Kayori versus Saksa, because the one who mirrors Saksa's gameplay early on is generally the five, right?
That's the guy you lane into. But Saksa didn't lane there. He went into his own safe lane.
And I think Kayori, you know, maybe after the game they're talking about, well, I should have been there.
You know, you should tell me that if this guy starts here, it ruins your game, because honestly, it is like a big story of this game.
So I think Saksa, one step ahead on his heroes, I think it's one of his specialties as a player.
He knows how to spend every single second in the game to near perfection. That's true actually because then that would leave it would be
The offline would be brew versus v-tune on abadon. That's just chilly
I think it's fine for aba
I think you're chilling like you can take the brew w off and I think abba should like slightly win that lane
I mean it does mean tree has to lane in the offline
There's plenty of trees there that also the leech seed I feel like would be really good like you're full chilling
Yeah, well a treat to of course a towel
It would be it would be Oh, yeah, like I like obviously if tier ones are alive this late in the game
It's always a good sign, but especially against this hero. We've seen template assassin
We've seen Watson if you don't kick this hero out of the lane early or if you don't make this hero
Have a bad early game. It is incredibly hard to win
So this tower being nearly full HP at 32 minutes is a horrible recipe for aura
It's a it's an argument against like not picking something like an Abaddon as the safe laner
Like especially when there's a tree on that side because that's the tower that's protecting the tormentor
Yeah, so I feel like you need to rotate heroes to take that
Otherwise you're going to lose the tormentor especially because they took a 14 minute Roche
But Abelman is not the type of hero like I'm gonna rotate through the portal and do impact. It's like shield
Okay, there's his impact, you know, it's just like it's not great. I think also like for Yannick
That's why I like the brewmaster pick quite a lot not only in a different world could maybe you know
parry vision could Aurora have picked it but instead now when there's a fight
utp and you're super happy even though you have a bad early game you need
levels yeah next a game all right thanks a lot gentlemen we go to a break when we
come back from this one we'll see if Aurora can start to shine we'll see in
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Hey everybody, I am here with Soxa. Hello, good to see you again.
First time to get my name right. Yeah, I've been practicing all day.
And for a very special occasion, we're going to rank all of the players here that play
your role, but not all of them, only the top five, five being the worst, one being the
best. You are allowed to vote for yourself. Will you be?
No, I'm trash now. Wow, okay, that's what I like to hear,
All right, so who would be at number five in this tournament and why?
I think let's put FY. Xtreme has been doing a lot better.
I think at the start of the season he wasn't doing so good. He was kind of, like, rusty.
But you can see the progress and I think he's improved a lot.
Is that a boomer take just because you're a boomer as well in Dota?
You gotta vote for the old guys?
Yeah, we gotta support each other.
All right, fair enough, fair enough. All right, how about number four?
Number four, let's go with Miro.
I mean, they had like insane win streak on Aurora and I think he's been playing really good lately, so...
Another boomer pick, but I'll take it, yeah?
What do you mean?
What do you mean?
What you mean T.I., you're an old man once you finally do it.
Alright, how about number three?
Number three, let's go with nine class.
Okay.
Yeah.
They're back and nine class in prime, so...
Yeah.
Is it annoying to play against nine class?
No, it's kind of entertaining for me.
Okay, all right now for the serious stuff number two all right second best who?
Let's go with rule. Wow. Yeah, I think this guy is like
insanely underrated and I
Think they haven't been doing so well in the grand finals, but I think this guy is like a lot of potential
So I mean they've already won some good tournaments. Yeah, I think it's been good. Well, praise. All right. That's very very interesting
I believe that you are right very underrated player. Okay, and of course big at number one
You're gonna pick yourself, I know you're gonna pick yourself, but who is it
going to be?
Boxy.
Okay, Boxy, Boxy, wow you put them on the list, do we even need to explain this one?
I don't know, he carries like a lot of liquid smat movements, he just, he does so much for
the team and he's like a really good player, so yeah, thank you.
Alright, as always the support is the most humble man on the team, especially the SICKO4.
There you go incredible job. I have to agree your rankings look very good. Thank you
Put yourself on it next time
So welcome back the Yandex success story just keeps on going they're ahead in this series
And now we need to ask a question about TA. Is it gonna be taken out of this draft?
I mean, I feel the problem you've got is there's so many heroes now emerging has kind of been key to
Removing you can't ban them all but this TA's got to go with some if you're not removing it
You need to have a better answer like if me a broom is there an answer
I'm sure there is I mean the hero has lost
But I mean like yeah, like it's not lost much
Maybe it depends on if you can start it into your bands do it if not give me like a better idea be more
You know on the game
I think also you know you lose this last game off with like more like level one shenanigans and then some draft chore
But this is easy to talk about it's easy to recover from mm-hmm
Yeah, I'd like to see like a
Harder counter answer to the TA and honestly, I I feel like the Viper is just
One of those things that teams try and it doesn't work
Even on mid, I think a lot of good TA players will say that's a 50-50 matchup, and that's not what you want, like excellent TA players will beat it.
I think something like a faceless Void carry, for example. There are some heroes that really destroy it in the game, it's just a question of like, are you okay with playing that pacing where you're delaying the game until Void can actually counter the tail?
Or they just ban it because it's difficult to do that on this patch to play for the later timings.
Okay, so again, like we also have to remember like when this stuff happens, right?
What's what through like exactly like who's gonna be left you already have you know, you need to dangle with the
Potential shadow fiend. I was gonna be like jerk hero, which is overall a good hero. Nothing ultimately crazy
Then there's like these masters, but I'm not too sure. I don't think Yandex
They're okay with this here. There's a world where like shaman's value that also as yeah, I think
I think they could take the hero of the SD, I mean they made sure Kiari is not getting him right.
I honestly think teams getting Shadow Shulman as a second phase pick is quite crazy.
Of course Jack as well.
Okay, so they were just going to go for this. I mean these are just solid openings overall, we've seen them in the meta, they're good, there's not that much that goes wrong with them.
I will say though when like these couple supports are left in the pool
It's kind of nice for the second pick team because if they do one shadow charm and they're the ones that pick out of phase
So if you're a Yandex now you need to like kind of you know understand
Okay, do we dare like if they leave it because then you get it
But you also have to you know respect the fact that they are the ones that can take it first
Well easy goings you just take it out get rid don't think there's anything wrong with that
I'm a little worried for Aurora after watching that game because I feel like
you let through the SD, K-Wari plays it, you ban out his like big three heroes, right?
The Warlock, the Phoenix, and Take the Jukiro.
And he looked very okay on it.
I agree.
As opposed to having like a profound impact, which he normally has when he's playing one of the big three heroes.
I think Pugna is another hero that he's played a lot, where the impact also looks like that.
You can just tell that like he really vibes with the hero.
In SD, to be fair, it's not an easy hero to feel like you're having that big, high-skill impact on.
And I wonder how much of Aurora's gameplay is based on that, because honestly, if you look back at their drafts,
they're an amazing team, but every single game, he's getting Phoenix. It's legit like 80% of the game,
so the question is there. Is it just the Phoenix that's carrying them?
I don't think I have the answer, and I think he's more than capable of playing other things, but it only takes losing two series to get knocked out.
For sure. I mean, for like for the ST, you just rely so much more on like being, like you need to be able to play around like your other players, you know, like they need to be able to be in front of you, you save them with the disruption and like you do stuff.
Whereas Warlock Phoenix, they can play like forward a lot, like more easier, I would say, on their own. They're also more threatening in the lane, like, I mean, ST is not a bad laner by any means, but you know, those other ones, they really give you a lot more.
I would say it's also interesting that they take out the tiny in my opinion like
Themselves it has looked very good like for Aurora as well, but you know they value the puck out of faith
Yeah, maybe it was harder for them to like find the other core guy that feels comfortable having their hero picked out of the fails
so the the big question here is like do you just void spirit because
SD is not that great against it. I think you void or slaughter probably why not?
Yeah, maybe they just go back for slaughter because it felt good in the last game even playing into
It felt it felt pretty good. It seems like it didn't matter
Because like you know at least like you see the puck you understand. Okay, this is the mid-match up
You also have puck SD they both suffer against similar things like they don't want to get jumped SD is always in the back
Line so Void Spirit would kind of cover both boxes slaughter maybe two
So if you're looking already, okay, you know like a potential carry you won't later down the line
Maybe it's a minus armor guide and sort of would like rise up in value. Yeah, that's no yeah next day
They've got a couple options here and yandex has the 18th pick so they can protect the Watson or or whoever
Okay with tusk
Yeah, I mean slaughter slaughter looks pretty nasty with tusk. I mean void is good, too
Okay, these are just such solid heroes. Yeah, you're a tusk like even jacquero is like double-hit ability with musk's
Icy hands is
Genuinely, I'd never for remember what this fucking ability is called. That's good. Thank you
It's genuinely a good combo, kill combo. So much damage for team heroes.
It's also like when you play against Estee, it is hard to find good saving heroes, right?
Because the purge generally counters a lot and even items you buy, like path with Solarcrest,
but snowball doesn't care. You still get like a semi, or like you still get like a hard save in a way
against Estee, which is quite cool. Sardar look great in the last game, nothing wrong with it here.
I've seen no one play this exact matchup, maybe even against Nisha, and he dumps third him.
So it's overall just nice you have high damage you have high armor especially in the mid lane you can LCSM you sustain
You're quite happy here for you guys. Yeah
It's weird that Nisha
Was in an empty lane, but I also really like the
Laska like you can toss snowball out of coil as well
Like if you have snowball a creep or something like that's one of the few things they can like beat this like
Parasma egg and inceptor BKB piercing puck
I really do believe that like the good pucks, you know, like the Makoto's of the world
They are carries like they're they will actually carry the game and you know
You see like some carry to carry matchup where it's like Aurora like if they go late game
They're gonna lose and then some puck just carries the game almost entirely on his own
Okay, so you do get the Mars. I mean, it's overall just a good hero
I will say there's damage that needs to be followed up with here on Aurora like puck needs time
He is a damage hero, but he is later in the start like he's not the highest damage nor is Mars nor is SD
So while I do like like all this control they have you definitely need to follow it up like nice
Yeah, like a willow or something like that. Yeah, I would like that willow is actually very good in this game
Slaughter tusk you're also one of the better force at like not getting super dumpstered by like a jacquero
It's a classic combo of Mars as well. It's an easy to execute
There you go, okay, I mean I love the hundred dollars. Yeah, I just
He's just so good at the heroes that he's good at.
I think it is worth picking something that is like slightly less meta.
You can see it's one in four.
I mean, this is not Kaori playing it,
so maybe it would be higher if he was playing it in every game,
but he's been able to be Phoenix in almost every game as we saw.
But it's really good against Slaughter.
Like Kezu was saying, you know if there's a Slaughter,
there's probably some minus armor carry coming out,
or at least some hero that really benefits from minus armor.
So having like the pugna decrepify is uh, it's very nice in this game. It doesn't mean they have two
Saving supports, which is a bit weird, but pugna can also do some damage too with the suck
It should be good here also like in the lane against the tusk
You know if you are going up against icy hands, you know after the crept of course very good
It's actually called tag team. Oh really? Yes
Thanks, and no one told me that one. Who told you that one? Nobody nobody. Yeah, that's good. You do that yourself. That's good
Back to you Richard. Okay, let's see over
So, I mean, 18th pick you would, I guess the pick here is whoever feels like they have three or more heroes, but two bands are going to happen.
So, I feel like if you're trying to get some like sick combo, amazing hero for Watson, you would pick it right now.
I could see, even though there's an SD, I mean, and Pogna is maybe semi-annoying.
I'm trying to think. So, like there's something like when I see Puck, Mars, I like Ursa, the problem is both supports are annoying.
Because then, you know, the Pogna and the SC are very annoying for both of your guys.
Okay, I like this again.
I mean, DM is also like more of a, he's a specialist guy, I think as well, but like,
now when you look at this, again, we talked about them not having so much damage,
which also means it's hard to burst the brew, obviously, if you don't have damage.
He's quite good against the Pogna.
And it's just overall a hero, I think you can semi-leave alone, like, early year,
depending on the match, because Pogna, while he harasses you, he doesn't really threaten kills on your NetRubi one.
Is there a world where we're in a situation where the tri-lane last game was not necessarily based on the Viper?
It's just something that they thought would beat Aurora in the way that they play?
I think it's possible.
Or maybe that they did it and then they were like, okay, this worked against the team.
They're safe lane, just does not pressure our off lane, so let's try lane again.
I mean, it's like older ways of dealing with specific heroes.
Like when you think of warlock like a couple years ago where trialings were more like, you know, normal in a way
That was one of the ways to go about it
So I wouldn't be too surprised of course it depends a bit on like the matchups as well
Like does your brew have a game depending on which year or like V2 and busts all that for you and for sure
It's a it's a it's just an interesting question
Like I would love to see a series where two trialings happen like that
Especially when the first game it's see it's a more like seemingly obvious one
But then in the second game, it's like, okay, they just had this game playing going in and like got lucky that the first draft
Looked like a good tri-lane draft to the point where KP was even able to say it in the interview
Like I hope they don't do this. You know, what do they do it again?
So we've seen V2 pick up the life steal which is gone and the Duke show which is gone very funny
But Abaddon the other one he likes to play. Yeah
I wouldn't love about it. It's fine like last it's kind of like last game
It's fine, but it doesn't like really answer the guy like partner
I mean it makes a strong lane with partner
But I think your lane is already strong because you're playing partner into two melees and one of them is the task
Okay, so what is it here, I mean Ursa
Yeah, they took you know. Oh they go for the beast. Okay
All right
not necessarily hero that like benefits massively from the minus armor of slaughter, but
But this is a really strong early game tricor, if they can get some items, like early Beastmaster
eggs.
It's another lineup where you see that they have a lot of value on taking Roshan early.
Beast plus Sardar is insanely good for Rosh, even the Tusk.
Yeah, and I think also, you have a super strong 5 with J'Kiro.
Like having these strong 5s in lane with some random board that's spitting on the POS4,
you can really take over those types of lanes.
I think also this hybrid damage carry is pretty cool, like against the Pogna, you also get
like this random stun, you know, later if you catch the Pog in a roar or the Mars.
Overall your lane is good too, like you might think that Mars is pretty good against beasts,
but if you have decent micro, your board shouldn't really die.
So overall I quite like this pick.
Hard to counter pick as well.
That is a cool pick.
You've seen the Luna kind of creeping in some situations.
Yeah, I mean, hypothetically, as long as, like, Soxa is dealt with, and he can't snowball,
like a Luna ult on top of a Mars arena, on top of a Puck coil, with the Decrap amplifying the magic damage,
like, hypothetically, this is a pretty crazy burst against three melee strength cores.
We've also seen Luna take the other Fasse as well.
Yeah, the Moon Shield. I think Zatanic had it yesterday. It did look strong.
I think also, I fully agree, I think it's just one of the better Luna games that I have seen, just because
it is a good hero against Brew, at least when it comes to the split later, but
you can still get collapsed on, which of course is annoying.
You naturally build Mantra against Slaughter, which is great.
You're also a good laner with Pogna, so I do think Aurora have very much improved their overall draft,
but I'm still looking at Yandex, I think, to have a slightly more explosive early game,
just because I'm attacking CJ on the Slaughter map to win against the Pog.
If Brew has levels like he did last game,
I think they have a lot of play abilities
but Aurora this time, they look better.
I do also worry like, I know against Luna,
if Luna comes out, you usually want to find
some sort of like BKB piercing disable to, you know,
deal with her because she is like,
pop BKB and man fight you.
And there's a lot against her.
There's like slaughter our bashes.
There's Beastmaster Aurora.
I think there was one more that I'm forgetting
because I don't see there.
That's a punch.
So it's not like I see hands I see hands of course, which is called the is called tag team
Of course tag team. That's not like the freest Luna game in terms of like the BKB, but it's a really good timing
It gives them a ton of damage. I I love
hybrid magic damage
carries especially if it's
AoE magic damage against three melee strength heroes. I don't want to see the eggs in this game
I think we've seen it in some other games to Luna eggs
I think it is okay, but here there can be like random boars. There might be a mantis. I don't be says a bruise plate as well
They can like soak up so much which is nice for glaives to bounce that is true
But like for that's why I want the full right click build. I don't want the axe
Hmm. I want him to send it send the high DPS. You know what? I'm gonna send I'm gonna send it over to slacks for a sideline interview
Give me that Richard Lewis. So good. Thank you so much. Absolutely. I am here with the coach of the index
So so good to see you again. How are you?
good good how about great baby because guess what Watson just got first blood
how do you think about that I don't know I don't know how to read it is it who
do you hope got first blood smart dude just a tiny bit here we are putting it
this slardar mid over and over again is this you know planned view is this
something that you guys talked about or is this just a reactionary pick secret
secret my god okay that's a smart man he's not giving me anything I love that
alright can I talk a little bit about the Luna were you surprised to see this
do you think you have what it takes to take her out because last game you were
super prepared we saw that kind of try lane situation versus the biper this
time Luna coming out of nowhere did you know yes in you you knew what don't you
know I knew everything about Dota who's in the files oh you said don't okay no
All right, I'll let you go then. That's fine with me. Let's go into the game and see if he knows everything like he says
Go in into
number two
Aurora yandex's yandex have themselves a
1-0 lead to go on this one Watson did in fact
I believe get first blood on that
Kill well Mira taking a look at this mid-match up will cost its true junior back on the sort of which we were talking about in the interview
among some other subjects and Makoto Zero the Puck, how does this work out?
I think he should be doing slightly better than he was doing on Void Spirit.
I've seen also Pucks go even sometimes, sometimes even like slightly, it's a skill based matchup.
It depends, I've seen Slara get like solo kills and then snowball from there.
But there's also a hero I want to be talking about that's Luna.
This hero hasn't been the most popular hero, I feel like maybe there was a place in meta for this hero to be picked up.
But I have a stat stuck in my head from DreamLeague Season 26, when Vtune was standing in for Team Liquid.
Overall, Luna was 0-7 at that tournament, Vtune played it three times, they kind of wanted to force it because he loves to run this hero.
But they haven't managed to find any success, and so far at Valakia, Luna is sitting at 50% two games.
We saw two different facets this time around he is playing with the moonshield facet and we will see the first blood again
Now therefore Watson Mira dies, but DM falls to V soon
So he gets a little bit of a bump up both carries getting a little something out of that first skirmish
Not the
Try be try we got last game. Well disappointing
Hey, there was that time where there were try be tries all the time and I was kind of over it
But now we get to see it every now and then I want to back all the time
until I get sick of it again.
We get the 2-1-2 and you've got Pugna here with the Luna against DM
and Soxa on the tusks.
That's going to be an easy lane for DM this time around.
First of all, he's not in 1v1 situation as a brewmaster.
He's playing into two range heroes.
You try to get close, you get beamed, you get blasted,
a couple of right clicks as well.
So every single time he gets close, it's going to be a bit more difficult.
So Soxa will try to pull the creep wave.
Didn't have really a way to stop the creep wave from getting pulled, stocks that does have boots of speed.
And this top lane panel talked about it a bit. It is a lot of slow.
I'm a big fan of these carries that deal mixed damage. Luna was always that type of a carry beast master.
It's a bit of a newer thing where people are still getting the agonist scepter and then going for right click with shadowblades, with mantis styles, even a butterfly, bloodthorn, whatever is needed.
It becomes very difficult to kill, Lotus, does belong to Yandex.
Do you agree with the panel in which you want to see Luna just go to that all-in right click build?
I think you can... it depends, because they don't have the traditional Aura Buyer from the Offlane.
Usually, Brewmaster doesn't buy into Pyke, if he might need to go for it in this game,
but it also doesn't feel as good compared to some other Offlaners where it's like Underlord,
where you're playing Centaur, so these auras are kind of natural build-up for you.
You can get different items on the Brewmaster.
We'll see if he decides to go for it.
It's a really good pipe game, considering that all the damage they have is magical
until Luna starts to right-click.
We've seen in the past these supports sometimes go for those aura items,
but with Tusk and Jekiro, it doesn't exactly feel like those kind of supports
that can bear the burden of going into those aura or items for you.
A lot of the damage also will be split between your rulings, Beastmaster summons, even Mantis-style from Beastmaster if he decides to go for it, then he might in this game.
Junior, I'm gonna be able to pick up this water room
Has to not commit and that will be the bottle refilled two-thirds of the way up for Makono picking up that water room
Doesn't have a lot of mana, but he of course has the sips to drink
Sure, Junior started very well in the last game
Currently doing well in the CS department, but now they're looking over at WS
Trying to get these axes to fly and get this kill on to the Mars
these illusions are not quite gonna do enough to get the kill in a malage but
the commitment there from Watson with the double boars there is also in trouble
yeah he looks very dead here as well unless he decides to TP out and he does
no way to stop that TP at the moment yeah hawk was not ready and one zero two
build here for jacquero so it doesn't have the ice path or anything to stop
that either jacquero double fairy fire we've been seen a lot more of a double
We saw triple fairy fire on your hero. You do get more benefits than the other heroes.
Knowing that you have double the damage, so double attack, I mean.
WS immediately getting pressured. Not an easy lane for Mars by any means.
You can't kill the bores, you don't have enough. Bores are way too tanky once you get them to level 2.
They have 450 HP, Shadow Demon also doesn't deal 12 with them.
But they also have an old-school combo that we didn't mention the shadow even plus Luna
Yeah allows you to siege create more illusions
Maybe that's why he's also gonna be opting to go for the right-click oriented build get all those stats up
See which offlaners kind of get the most out of the game
As you can see Bruce struggling a little bit as well Mars getting a little bit more currently
You did say that bruise not gonna have the best time at his lane overall
As we can see, very difficult lane for him, snaps to the coil, but Malladage is here, disruption onto Malladage instead.
So, Ture Jr. doesn't get more focused than just the coil. He's able to survive this one, okay?
Or he's on the run from the toss. They have corrosive Haze, but another hero that's just going to get under the tower and out of harm's way.
What's the initial game plan for both these teams?
in terms of like that 10 to 15, 10 to 20 minute mark before we start going maybe first
roach with the corrosive haze or something along those lines in Torment.
What are we looking at?
I would like to see V2, we talked about his Twin Gate rotations as Luna, once you hit
level 6 if the lane pushes in and naturally it should, you have Jacuro, you have Beastmaster,
a lot of summons, if you use your electric fire it's going to deal extra damage, so
it does allow Luna to go through the Twin Gates, potentially get the backstab going
on to the enemy carry, and they're seeing clock. Make a rotation, no coil.
And no coil used in mid, but with the spear landing, that's going to be a dead Jekiro.
Watson dives in for WS, getting that kill there, but with two heroes around, who gets
a second as Makoto, just too much health for him to deal with, ends up killing off Watson,
double kill for the Beastmaster. He's more inclined with this type of a trade,
getting a double kill, getting solo XP from one of the kills, but so is Makoto. He is
getting involved compared to previous game he was sitting at 0-1 and 0 for good first 15 minutes
this time around it's gonna need to be him to be the playmaker. Two supports they are kind of bad
at making moves but they're good at grouping around the mid laner and using like playing with the
catapult using blast on the tower so it's very important that Mikoto gets a good early start
first split use seven and a half minutes in. Yeah committed on the Kaori who is stuck via the
Shards not able to survive with both heroes diving this tower good move good shards from the tusk makes it quite simple with that primal split
Socks are taking the shine Mira taking the other no double shrine for either team
Just something that we saw a lot of throughout the group stage or the Swiss stage of this tournament
This Mira goes to
Get some stacks ready for potentially the Luna to take
They can into the saloon as they're gonna come towards their gags.
They're getting decoupleted.
This Observer board, not a conventional one by any means near the Roche pit,
showed both of the heroes, allows Maledich to run away while Beastmaster is farming safely in the jungle.
Yeah, he's back safe and hidden.
They haven't put a lot of pressure on the tier one tower top either, so Beastmaster's kind of free to do this
and he's not losing much in his lane in doing so.
So, Maledich will come into the bottom lane, and now, another word is down.
The Cryptify himself, but with Soxa here with Maledich and DM, that'll be another kill out of Kaori, this Pungna losing his life again.
Now, is Makoto and WS finally committing out of this tower.
See if anybody tries to rotate on this more than just the tusk, but with three heroes around, it's a little bit tough.
They'll cut the creep wave, make sure these creeps get in successfully.
Something that Aurora struggled with in the last game was getting these towers and opening up the map for themselves
Their map shrank so much that now a little bit of the opposite feels quite nice
But they're gonna TP the puck over as well as the Luna waiting grift silence on the Jikiro mileage
He is in a lot of trouble and will fall on the Dakota who's got this amplified damage
And they also saved the tower for now. They can't get a deny on the tower no glyph available
Seeing those TP rotations over bottom, Watson feeling more comfortable to move forward again.
Mikoto with the Twin Gate rotation, I really like this play from Mikoto.
He's all over the place and he's pretty much the driving force of the team involved in all four kills.
TP's bottom, they grab a kill, he TP's at the top lane, secures the tower.
I wanted to see this rotation from me tune slightly earlier because the lane again was pushed in
and maybe they would be able to grab a kill, but this time around Aurora managing to punch back
and also not allowing Chira Jr. to replicate the game that he did have in game number one.
At this point in game number one, it was already a 4,000, 5,000 net worth lead for Yandex.
They had come off the lanes with such a high advantage that it made the entirety of game number one
near possible for Aurora.
If something sums up in a much better position,
Snowball pulling in Jirjnir, Spear's already a miss, so they don't have anything to lock down these heroes and try to get away, WS dead to right, and Jirjnir will get that kill.
Watson closing in on that agg and interceptor, which is a big power spike for Yandex, and Aurora just still trying to sit back and farm.
We'll see if Yandex this time around tries to go for another early Roche.
They do have Beastmaster Ags, as you said, very soon.
You have Corrosive Haze, only level 1 at this time.
He's not getting the levels like he did in the previous one.
And most importantly for DM, he's having a good time.
Like, he managed to get him to Hand of Midas, has the same amount of Pharma's Buck, getting
into Agatum's Scepter.
I would still maybe start thinking about getting one of the Auras after he finishes off that
aggs because he's having that good of a time it's a really good pipe game
Crimson Guard is also very good against Luna and all of the illusions but you
also kill the illusions which are the spells so it might be optical for pipe
instead so I had said earlier that I didn't really think these supports we're
gonna go for being that replacer bear the burden but with your hero queuing up
pipe I'll okay be a long time till he gets it so it goes for it yeah I mean as
I said it's a very good pipe game so I wanted to see it maybe slightly earlier
this is what's the timing if jacquero is the one committing for it they need two
good fights Roshan some tower he finds GPM enchantment it's it's doable so
malish can get out of the game because currently he's sitting top of the
supports. So Xhuzang is having a bad game. At all. He's already got drums. He's happy
with what he's received throughout the game. You're up now. Running. And there were downed
Dreamcoyle and the Eclipse. Me too, gonna get a kill to cheer Junior. Now that Xhuzang
needs to follow up out of the toss. One more right click from Kaori to get the kill there.
Sox is dead. So two heroes fall on Yandex. Aurora starting to finally feel powerful enough
to take it to the index. A little bit more than they have in the last game one and extra
twelve and a half minutes we've seen so far. Bringing in numbers and two supports with
defensive capabilities. Usually I'm not a big fan of Pagna plus Shadow Demon as the
support duo, but the other two cores have ways of initiating the fight. Mars with the
blink dagger. In the mid game, same goes for Puck, Puck even pre-blink dagger. So it's
going to be much easier for them to start a fight. A lot of the times you will see this
type of a lamp and then you have like Offlane Viper and you just can't play the game especially
if your mid laner gets heavily focused so he can't get a blink dagger relatively quickly.
This time around Aurora, having a much better game, much better draft as well and overall
plan.
So we're gonna have to deal with Watson at some point who is getting a juicy stack in
the triangle.
He's slomming, he's farming, he's fine, Mira meanwhile looking to get something out of
game as he wants that path. It's obviously that extra armor and just trying to keep these heroes straight narrow on Aurora overall, but
the timings for a couple of big items are gonna be soon enough where I
mentioned it earlier where for Andex, you're gonna hit this like blink
for Beast and this Axe for
Brew where it's setting up towards that roach, right? You win a fight, go for roach, and then all of a sudden you're kind of controlling objectives.
Aurora, do you think they're gonna be okay with the form that they're getting at the moment to kind of
defend this timing? Yep, they have pretty good scaling. You have Mars who just picked up a blink
dagger which blade available on Puck, Luna. How might they actually have Mantis style for that
Roche fight if necessary? If she gets good amount of farm, double ravage onto Watson. This is the
power of the hero. He can farm multiple camps at the same time, drag them in. And we're seeing
more and more Beastmaster being played from a carry role.
It was exclusively played as an offlaner,
maybe back in the days with the Bloodstone
when it was a thing, we saw a good amount of Beastmaster
from the mid lane.
In the recent couple of months,
Beastmaster from the mid lane,
and now people also realize this hero
can actually carry the games with the right click damage.
Triple offlane draft for Yandex.
But a lot of faith from their coach too in that interview.
I definitely feel like they could know enough, because Soxa gets taken out by WS.
I like the confidence that I hear from the indexes coach coming into this game, especially
off game number one.
It's hard not to have that kind of greedy confidence.
It was clean.
It was very clean execution in that game number one.
I feel like they're not going to be able to push straight away into these Roche fights.
You would ideally want to have Slardar being level 12, have Shard, which is being delivered on the carrier right now,
and you want to have Brue Master with Agadamceptor. So waiting for another minute or so, I think, for Yandex,
and then they're going to smoke up and try to force a rush fight, snowball.
Some all save, phase shift, ice cat landing, acupyre, and the roar! Mallardage survives, and Makoto's the one who dies!
Quill gets used, and they don't even kill the Jikuro there.
That cloak actually keeping him alive cloak ash legion shield brawny enchantment all these things they are adding up
This is a massive kill and it might not look like it's a big kill, but it's also shutting down puck
It's allowing your position five to get some extra bit of a cold as we said despite that. He's building it too
It's gonna be super valuable
Working on getting that ring of Tarasque, which is the most expensive piece of it 1700 gold
but I like the idea and I like the commitment to going into that pipe and
it makes me wonder what brewmaster is gonna want after this agonist scepter
so curious to see what he gets there once he's going for afterwards Watson
meanwhile you're with maledich over bottom and he like he said pick up the
blink dagger he wants to be kb it is setting up to have yourself a little
bit more freedom of the fights coming up you do smoke on the side of Aurora WS
and Mira looking towards bottom, but nobody here. Pretty close to the vicinity. They could
twingate it. But overall for Gandex, just kind of avoiding the ganks coming from this
radiant side initially. We'll commit to going into the twingate. Who can they find? Tusk
is here, Sardar nearby. WS does have that blink available, so he's able to make that
jump. They'll have the disruption is a little bit of lockdown or save as a
follow-up to a blank spear arena, but they don't quite find anybody quickly
enough and Watson, Sox, and the rest of the side of the Enix are just gonna take
this time to farm. They farm to the point where they're feeling like they
can fight, so they'll smoke. They know where he's farming and he's all alone.
Yeah, the team just went through the Twin Gate. Four heroes went through the Twin
They're just going to need a jump with Aurora and that's what they start with so the snowball follow-up means there's no way out for each here
DM gets the kill and taking out that Luna is a big moment for
Yandex and one that they could parlay to a
Roche with this Beastmaster combo with the Sardar. Dreamclaw committed on the kill on Amaladich a little bit of revenge for Makoto
But a consolation prize that just does not feel as good as what Yandex got in killing off this carry on the side of Aurora
And I like the DM is going in and trying to take away the rune from the enemy team knowing that he can't really die
Even the rune spawns on the other side, but that was a big play going into the enemy triangle
killing Luna
You can say that he got Aurora there
unfortunately, so slowing down his farm and
Onto the mid lane they are fight ready acts on the Beastmaster
This has to be super difficult to fight, this is very difficult to fight into.
A good thing, at least for Aurora, is that he doesn't have that much mana to work with.
They have no mana booties yet on any of the heroes, it seems like they're not going to be building into them.
But I also like that Maladich is farming on the other side of the map.
Completely alone, gets the Observer Ward, gets a mixture gold.
extra gold, you said the most difficult part for getting this pipe is gonna be getting
a ring of Tarask and he got it.
Yeah, finished off getting the gold by taking in an observer, he's been forming in this
bottom part of the map quite a bit and I mean that's why Makoto's been going there trying
to get the kill in a maladich, gets one turned around on him, second time, that's where the
luck was and they were able to get that kill onto the jacquero to slow down this pipe.
But it's not too much longer until he has this item.
They have.
done soon. With the next round of items, Yamex is going to feel super powerful. You're going
to have two BKBs and you will have Pipe available, plus the Blink Dagger and Brewmaster so he
can jump the backlines, be very annoying for both of the supports. It's basically the
shrump the backline, try to get a kill on one of them even though they have protection
against each other. One protection is Dispellable that is going to be Pugna's Decrypify, Tormentor
In 10 seconds, they're still pinging out Mira, thinking about maybe getting the jump first, but they're still a Tier 1 tower available.
Tier 1 available at the top lane, able to rotate, defend this Tormentor.
Now my question is, there's a lot of time, but do they go for this shrine and start to take over the experience lead?
That's something that teams usually, when they've got a little bit more map control, they're willing to do.
With the Tier 1 tower there, it's a little bit more difficult to steal a shrine away, right?
Yeah, it doesn't seem like they're on the same page at the moment. They might be wanting to get a pick-off
They still have to kill some of the towers if you're one tower top is available and right now Aurora
They are getting out maneuvered at least for now. Chura junior. They might be able to get a jump here
And they do they've got the coil God's view to spear doesn't snap the coil and sure junior trying to run away, but
We'll throw that open the shadow demon and put it all together to finally get a kill on the slaughter
Something they really needed. Anything they could do on one of the initiators, which is that Sardar, to slow him down and get him off the map, gives V2 more time to continue to farm.
Lots of now, looking at a disperse or next. How do you feel about that?
I like it. It's one of my favorite items. I don't get the chance to buy it as much from the offlane.
It's a bit jealous.
Yeah, not on 5-1, pretty much any of the offlaners, maybe on Pango because that was a hero back then, even though we've seen Pango today, he did get a dub.
The hero's back?
Yeah, we had an interview with Amar and I did ask him about Pango during the previous Dream League about what does he think about Pango because they kinda ruined him and he said the only way to play the hero is to get the disperser on him.
Jump in deep, look for the pugnip.
K-O-R-E, gonna try and life drain and stay alive, but that's not gonna work out.
Shards are around this, Mars, Acropyre is there too.
This disruption sure is the same, but it's gonna be a little safe enough to really feel
long-lasting.
They'll take out WS, they'll end up trading Soxa, they finally get their vision complete
by killing off K-O-R-E.
These heroes are low on the side of Yandex, they have an Aegis available on Watson, doesn't
quite use it.
He's down low on mana and health.
They'll just retreat as the
Split and the brew were in pretty deep, but the one that he formed back to we didn't did not want to commit with the eclipse
It's insane amount of damage that they are lacking inside of the arena
Especially with the victory fees fast if you grab a kill you're gonna get the extra damage max HP as a heal
That's gonna come through seems like they still want to take this fight with the eclipse, but they can't find the opening
If they have Makoto coming from the side, but he doesn't have Coil, their lockdown is very limited and I am able to make this chase.
Watson is already free to leave. It's 30 seconds up on Aegis, so we're going all the way back to full.
I didn't want to give them the potential timing on watching it time out and dying right afterwards.
But yeah, the reason why he didn't use the ulti is what we mentioned earlier.
It's a lot of that damage that's going to be split amongst the broolings.
Maybe a boar, maybe a hog, so it's not going to be as effective.
So he needs to wait it out.
He needs to be the one waiting until broolings are gone.
Luna, in theory, is a good hero.
I don't remember seeing this matchup in a long time because Luna was just not popular.
to carry. I want to see how much he's going to be able to deal with the
broolings. Once you get your waterfly timing, in theory you should have enough
damage but it also depends whether you're clicking your BKB, your mantis style
illusions are going to get dispelled. If you don't precast the BKB, you're going
to get cycloned into the air. So not an easy matchup for Luna by any means,
playing into Brewmaster, but maybe if they can hold them inside of the arena,
the broolings are gonna die.
See if they have a shot.
At least on that, but with a net worth lead is small. 4k doesn't feel like it's that massive
lead they had in the last game. They were up about 35,000 at some point.
Blink crushed in the speared, but that lands on the top. They go to the Dreamcloat, they've got the prime award.
It's gonna be out of the Luna in trouble. BKB pop.
I can't plan those play-or-play, they go to the Eclipse, they get the kill to B2, it's gonna be a double kill for DM, WS is standing at the back of the pyro, but he's got the BKB!
Gets out of the arena, the axe is flying forward, your junior will confer a blink as well as a crush that lands on him, but not before the BKB runs out!
The chase still for the damage I've got, the stun them have, the Pavis! He heals up a little bit, Nakoto is here, take out some of these brew links!
DM back to form Blinks away, but they got the kill to the Luna, so that's an automatic victory for Yeddex, just losing the Tusk!
Negative Scepter on Brewmaster allows him to cancel the split at any time he gets out, and he blinks out immediately.
You can see that Luna is not able to deal the damage immediately. If they find an opening onto her, you have multiple BKB piercing abilities,
actually three, which is pretty massive, and they also have three shiny BKBs, plus the pipe fighting inside of the arena allows them to stay super tanky,
and a big fan of Malvin's decided milk like this guy is kind of nailing it drum into pipe and I believe he's going to be
Trying to find the farm and get the Guardian Greaves just to have that extra sustain
It's all about surviving the initial fight from Aurora to use arena coil
And the clips if they don't get to kill they lost the fight immediately
I was looking at his build and he hasn't
Put the commitment into the Guardian Greaves just yet
I think that's a question of whether or not he wants to go to boots of bearing or keep the mech
But he's probably just gonna go get himself those grieves. Yeah, the drums, you know, it's always possible
With the grieves and the pipe you feel so strong and so sustainable in these fights
Yeah, it's more about like boots of bearing insanely good item against arena not as much against the coil
You don't get that you don't get to reset and also you get demonic purge
Which means that it's gonna get dispelled
Very true
AC being built
by DM and
We were questioning what the build was gonna be as he went to the blink he's got this might as he's also got boots to travel to travel
Move around as much as he can around the map. How's him to be somewhere else to be in of these fights
Give that ability to come in throw out that split and
really just
Control up Aurora, right?
Yeah, it's more about the backlines. He's kind of the secondary control. It's going to be primal beast, sorry primal beast.
I always think about primal beast whenever I see Beastmaster for some reason.
Maybe I miss playing primal beast, maybe that's why. But Beastmaster, the other beast, just finished off his disperser,
which is going to be insanely good, removing some of the buffs that they do have, the Solar Crest and also very good against Pogna.
So if he manages to get the jump right against the Krippify, Glimmer cape as well.
I don't know, something about this item just screams we are in the lead.
If you see this item, a lot of the times it's kind of saying where it feels so confident, especially in these pre-30 minute games.
Butterfly now completed on Luna.
It's a big damage increase.
Tier one top, finally dropping.
Stayed up there for a long time. Blink in.
He's turning this button. They've got the primal split.
Another ward. It was committed. Disruption to save himself for a little bit longer,
but there's the blink. Get in the wall. Respunch as well as the Shards around WS.
Pikes path laid down. Knock in a ladder to V2. They'll use that primal roar. It locks up this Mars.
Mars, he does have Arena. He can't turn. The spear gets started.
It actually stuns up the tusk on the other side of the Arena.
Kind of weird. V2 though. Drops the occlusion. It's on a wads in and now trying to run,
They have some big damage coming out from P-Tune, they get the kill to watch and they take the socks in, now they look for the rest!
DM in the face of these heroes, but now Jirjina TP out with the BKB. They still have more from Aurora.
There's DM, no split, not a lot of life, trying to escape, it's not going to be enough for him as WS will get that double kill.
Four heroes die on the index, his game is back to even and Luna finally able to show off the strengths.
Showing off her butterfly in that previous fight, Mikoto and Luna, they were not targeted.
This time around, there is no roar on Luna, and a bit of a disjointed fight for Yandex.
Rumasur jumping in, almost solo killing Pogna, but then he gets saved by Shadow Demon.
Who supports who can take care of each other, that's always gonna be good.
There was no follow-up.
They had this observer, where DM is just gonna be jumping in, getting the split immediately.
But there was no Chirra Junior, I think he needed to be the one also getting the jump.
And now we can see the power of Luna against the Bruhlings. She uses her Lunar Orbit with the Butterfly.
And what was before, level 15 talent, the 42nd Eclipse cooldown. It is now level 20 talent,
which does allow him to fight more often pretty much every single minute.
And after that, they're also running out of steam a little bit. If they use this roar,
Plus the split and not also get a kill Luna who was not focused and she's gonna be dominating the fight
The fight did feel a little disjointed for it did as well
You could see Mira
Very animated at least facially animated
True junior with a vkb. This is by Roche DM Zed. He'll go to split and other words in the pit
So don't have vision on that. It's starting to strike.
They need a follow-up, but they need something with him.
It's gonna be Sox who comes over and throws himself into a snowball,
but now with the World's Punch, they go after WS.
Shards thrown out, locks up.
This Luna, and now the swithering crush,
but then a crap of five, they're still getting the kill of Kaori.
They'll take out one.
With no Kaori, can they get anything more out of this fight?
Makoto, he's found for a second.
They've got the cycle back to four.
They're still trying to run around.
Validage for the ice path lands.
Snowball to Sandwich, Kiro.
The chase is on, but it's going towards the LUNA!
The BKB's gonna be caught by WS and tells him to talk to him by the LUNA,
they go to the Primal Roar, it's gonna be the loft,
they team up with the God of BKB, kids on a Tuesday,
so it's a low once again!
The run away from Wax and the rest of Gandex wanna get out,
McCud is not working with a lot of mana,
but they found themselves this Beastmaster.
He is left all alone trying to escape,
gets the blink off, but is he able to TP out?
Does he have a TP available?
No, it's on cooldown for seven more seconds.
Breathe too loud, roar too loud, drum too hard,
You might get caught but they end up TPing away
Expecting that he had already left because the shadow poison didn't connect. Oh, that was so close
Luna with lunar orbit
With this facet you have 30% damage reduction. He got it right before the roar
Which means that 30% of that damage is gone and again, they're not playing with the split
I feel like the index they need to be able to go together him and Slaughter and find these
Backline supports, get a jump and delete them immediately.
66% in favor of Aurora.
They're not playing like they go together like peanut butter and jelly.
And they're unfortunately playing like milk with garlic in it.
You'd never think of a combination like that, it just doesn't go together.
They need to get it more cohesive.
That sounded disgusting, I know.
You're probably that type of a guy that pours milk and then puts the cereal in, instead
of the other way around.
I thought you were going to say I'm the guy who puts milk in the cup and then the chocolate
syrup and I was going to say yeah, who doesn't do like that.
I didn't even know that was a thing.
Off to the high ground there you go.
V2 with the Aegis, level 21.
Once you lose that tower, your barracks are in a lot of trouble.
We do have a listening from Soxa, if we could take a little listen.
If this one, I guess I should be captain to anything.
We can wait without thank you, others.
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Get a little bit of a listen in, they know where the bread is being buttered for Aurora.
Yep.
Thank you for your attention.
We need to figure it out. Yeah, figure it out. It's not as easy anymore. This Luna is definitely online
Each team doing another one of those games where he only dies once or twice and has farmed his way to the top and he is
Scaling way better than the side of yandex for the moment
It feels like Watson's just not outputting enough in this game. Church here blinks in with a vkb. They're trying to get the control on the
Ws, but he's so tanky
Dream coil committed
And then we just back off on yandex
He stands forward and has this bulwark, not taking a lot of damage, has a lincoln, trying
to control and keep himself alive, and he's done just that.
What a bit tough earlier in the game for the Mars, couple of deaths early, but he's only
three, four, and nine.
Serena's have been on point.
Spear, DM.
On the run once again, but under the strata of that glimmer cape, he gets out.
He wants refresher. He wants another split.
Trying to control as much as possible in a Silver Edge for Watts.
What do you feel about that?
Well, it's a, I would say, kind of standard Beastmaster item.
This item has found a really good place in current meta.
Let's see the initiation. Socks up, he's in.
Oh, Lord from behind trying to go for the shadow team and they get nearer.
Dispersory action.
And now, the BKB wants to meet Thoreau.
Off to St. Vanity.
Not the look that you're letting me kill K.O.
Or it's the five-act coming out from the shadow team
and they're gonna try to get back into the fight.
Wall is punched.
This is this Luna caught and the agents is God.
You're G.D. right in the face of WS.
He was trying to get some help with the backfire but he was wrapped.
They're gonna need a bit of help.
They buy this arena.
They'll get this Slaughter.
Are they gonna commit the five-act to go after V2?
They have the Cyclone.
He's gonna be up into the air.
now needing to run. Watson throwing these axes. They've got the split still going.
Tobios is going to throw the spear that hits out of the tusk, but tusk, he's not the problem.
It's Watson. It's this Beastmaster. It's the rest of the team that are really
being problems for the side of Aurora. The BKB and the TP out from this Luna
means they're giving up on the fight and Makoto needs to get out. But with the
illusory orb and the jaunt away with the blink, he's got enough space and will not
be dead this time around. This time they managed to find the good opening on one
of the supports immediately. Disperser finally in action, removes that
decryptify and they are able to get the kill, able to get the buyback out of Mira
on top of that and not losing barracks. That's what's most important. Mira's
being out to go for the barracks. We still have Luna, but this time no ages
available. They also managed to kill Luna like not instantly but they did a very
good amount of kiting when she popped her satanic. She was not licensed. She did
not hit a single hero dropping down to like 50% HP and there's the satanic
in action, plus the Lincolns, and they're going to wait it out.
Even though they're fighting on the side, this Left Observer Award gives vision to Aurora,
but not able to capitalize on that, and Chira Jr. in the end, he's peeking, he's so close
to being ready.
Five seconds, he's going to die, but they're also very tanky.
With the Refreshers online, Beastmaster, I see he's going for one, Rue Master, getting
actually close to his, that's going to be a lot of control.
Troll's going to be quite nice and this fight is like almost an A and a B part, right?
Luna, over by themselves, being kited, doesn't get to use the Satanic, like he said, effectively,
and ends up dying and losing that Aegis while the rest of the fight is focusing.
Tier Junior in the face of the Mars doesn't really allow Mars to have that impact,
to have that bigger arena object available to him, and it makes it so Luna's vulnerable in a moment like that.
Yeah, you need either good vision to get the jump with Mars or you need somebody else to provide you vision
So it needs to be Mikoto jumping in maybe he can give him the Lincoln's then jump in usually that Lincoln's is saved
For Luna so that she doesn't get throat
There's no other ways of saving Luna other than the cryptify glimmer cape solar quest which can't be removed
But I want to puck get the first jump
try to bait a little bit because I think he can survive long enough having two
supports behind him disruption there's nothing against that and then go for the
arena and he's also relatively close to refresher but not there yet needs another
fight. Old Fire will help out with it a Crepify problem as well causing it on
getting the relic on that. These heroes are here from Yandex but they're not
going to commit that far as there's a smoke from Aurora that's coming in, the
Yandex are treated at a good enough timing to avoid this gank from Aurora,
or for the most part they have. Shards and the blink into a wall response, but
now Makoto, silencing him up, Sentry's there, Dreamclaw committed. He tries to
survive, unfortunately, Ritune just has too much damage and has the rest of the
team around him. They'll get the kill onto the Tosk.
Roshan is going to be on the other side of the map, there is no tormentor available, and bottom is getting pushed in two catapults, so somebody needs to address this, which will give them enough time for Soxa to respawn, and maybe even give them enough time for Watson to get his refresher.
There's a long time till Roche could be potentially up, and both teams, I don't really, with the
way that they've been moving around the map, I don't really expect them to stay just farming
waiting for it.
The Index kind of have this point where they win that last fight, that last big engagement,
and maybe they feel as though these next few items are going to give them that advantage
to not only win a fight, but push the high ground of Aurora.
that refresher for DM. Double split, ready to go. Almost closing it on level 25 too.
Experience wise, not that much of a split, the index, they're up four levels which is
kind of nothing at the end of the day. We've seen much more hefty leads come out from these
teams. But you can see where a lot of the network difference is being made. And it's
the fact that Malladage is super farmed on this Chikiro, and the support difference
kind of makes up the entire difference when it comes to it.
He's basically like the offlaner right now considering how tanky he is, and starting
the scale on top of that, if he manages to somehow find the farm, get to his Agadamse
throw that inside of the arena it's gonna be good way of damage and good way to
counter initiate and Rora trying to find an opening.
Chikiro and Maladich understanding that he needs to be getting these items so he
hasn't gotten his next neutral item. He's holding onto the greedy.
Gotta keep the greedy. Is it greedy? Yes, but it's in the name so you understand.
It doesn't get greedier than this. No, there is no tier 4 greedy enchantment
That should change as a support player that should change. I
Want 200 gp out of you you can minus all my he has two really good options
He has deep up amplification and he also has the cast range Mira
Killed in a heartbeat
Not dead for that long 40 seconds left to go
This is the big one.
Minus 25 seconds on a primal roar.
He could sell his trads and buy full refresher.
As the Disperser has Blink, has ways to not need those boots.
See, if he commits to just getting that refresher having that double roar,
and when you've got that minus on the cooldown time,
there's definitely moments where you could see three roars come out in a fight.
A lot of screaming going on in a game like that when you've got those many roars.
I'll put him up on the cliff, waiting for him to rip down and the rest of Aurora nearby.
Chara Jr. needs to get his stuff together.
There's been AC on your off laner for good...
20 minutes?
15ish minutes, yeah.
Might be a little hot in there.
They need more AC.
Might be a little hot in there. They need more AC
Thank you a
Hardy chuckle from a cost is the best compliment you can get and that was a good one. I appreciate that one
so two refreshers now
Available fuck also has a on this but there is nullifier. There's disperser
Which can be taken out.
Maladich in a good spot to break the smoke.
He'll come back into the fight in a second, and Saikon on a WS,
lots him down, but lots him back in the way with the Shadowblade.
They're in on Roche for a second, that will roar.
The side of Yandex have backed away,
but will it concede the Roche completely?
Let's see if they can maybe find an opening.
Luna does manage to stand her ground this time around.
Very nice save coming on from Soxa.
Gets inside, gets the snowball saved,
but both of them are still gonna die.
Again, another disjointed fight for Yandex,
where they are not fighting as a unit.
And again, Leetune is gonna be holding the Aegis. They get at least some kind of a trade.
Potsing getting that shard.
And he can get a second Hawk or the Hawk Tua.
And having multiple Hawks, having that increased duration is always nice, but it's not the best shard to have.
Get it for free? Why not?
Well, these fights, like you said, disjointed from the Index.
It's advantage Aurora when it's split up like that.
They take out the sports very quickly, the damage from V-Tunes and Zane.
And it's come to the point where we've seen this classic build, where it's Shadow Demon of Luna,
and when you're taking the high ground, it's just so hard to commit into the disruption
and into the Luna with the damage they do, especially with the Glades.
Still protecting the Barracks, yeah?
yeah keeping them alive left is ready if necessary true junior it's fine a new
item realized there is a seal ready so going for a silver edge there's one
thing that I don't know I'm not sure if that's a thing because like lunar orbit
whether that's because you can break blue blaze that's that's good your lunar
blessing is breakable but lunar orbit doesn't seem to be because like when we
things around but also going for a bit of a more maneuverable build with the
silver edge so cutting into back lines they don't have the gem available they
do one on Mars actually it's not a photo finds DM for a second because it just
needs to be like in their face be super aggressive he also hit level 25 dream
coil pierces debuff immunity has a refresher shard from Roshan picked up
Parasma finally it's an insane amount of magic damage that should deal with she was guard Parasma
Well, it's gonna snap
He's got a fresher shard though now they go to the arena. They find the spirits on the toss
He's gonna be silenced him with the lucid beam
It's still not dead. He's gonna be committed from WS. They've got the cycle
It's gonna be out of the Luna Lincoln's pop refresher there WS now on the back like taking the Kota mirror
He doesn't apply back different 76 seconds, but Kodo trying to help out Kori as best they can but they get the stuff
They've got the arena. That's the second one coming up from WS
The spear is there watching the trouble BKB trying to survive but he's gonna end up falling WS as well as reaching
get the kill with the Eclipse, dropped right out of the Beastmaster. Too much for him to
handle, too hot to handle, and DM now back to 4, but he's got the refresher, he's got
another split. They do have buyback for Watson if they need to use it, but with the lack
of commitment from Aurora on the high ground, you might see him just holding.
Puck is dealing insane amount of damage. We said, it was a bit of a later Parasma pick
up for Puck, where he, but Parasma plus Sheva's Guard, his abilities with Octo in core, plus
phase shift. This hero is just nuts. I think a panel talked about this potentially being
the hero of the tournament on day one or day two of the Lockia where it looked so good. In every
single game the hero is doing stuff and I really like the build that he's going for. I see overwhelming
blink. When you see overwhelming blink plus shivas, it's the most fun you can have in the game. You
blink in, you cancel their blink daggers. It just gets pretty crazy. It allows lunette to see just
Which is pretty similar to what the antics did do in the previous game with the brewmaster.
So if they are going to be sieging the high ground, Puck is going to be fulfilling that
role.
See if they come back to siege before the Aegis expires a minute and a half on it.
We're on this river line with the Luna, but nobody else really around.
Makoto towards the triangle.
WS now taking that twin gate to go farm top.
supports finally back alive for Aurora, they're waiting 13 more seconds to have Watson back
here
for ENX and now at BKB for the Tusk
He's gonna try as hard as to have these saves and be able to jump in a little bit more control through BKB with this
Walrus punch if you can get to it and have that freedom to do whatever he wants in these fights
Icepath TP, but the dream quote committed in Maladich. He is in trouble.
We'll pop the pipe, the grease, but the kill is still there, Makoto.
We'll finish off the Jikiro who does that buyback, but dead for 60.
The rest of the team Maladiched him. They left him alone.
And another ring here. GM's gonna be caught on this. Does that primal split?
That's what it'll use. It'll start to run.
It needs to get away from this Luna, who can take out the Brulings pretty quickly.
But it doesn't have the damage to do so, and that will be the Brulings getting away.
Just cycloning up the Luna, buying as much time as they can, as long as there's one alive.
He can fall back, go back to form, be okay.
Beatoom's sitting at almost 8,000 gold.
He can still get the eggs upgrade.
Eating Axe is one of my favorite things, like one of my favorite mechanics that has been added to the game.
I know it's a longer one, but still allows you to get like seven-slotted with the moonshotted and everything, just allows you to scale.
High ground, Lawr's punch to start, Watson goes to the back lines, but the destruction's there for the save, and now they've got the fear it was odd to v2 for a second, but Watson's just way out of position away from his team.
They hit the arena, they get the kill, they took in the Mies master.
Now they're just fighting back in the line, that was a read-a-pot, and now they're going to go to the bottom set of racks.
They've got the glaives going around, DM's dead too, Makota getting that kill.
He's been god-like quietly, I feel like the MVP of this one, V2, Nye, Ural, Lune, you can get it all done,
but the help of the rest of the team, especially here with the Mars, has been what they needed to come back in this second one.
But can they close it out?
They're going to end the game in 15 seconds, pretty much.
Watson, he's thinking it out.
Jumping in, there's the double buy back in the LFVKB, that's going to be the turn-around, but LucidBeam's going to be thrown out.
They've got themselves an axe macro buyer.
The rural lands out of the bars, but another disruption near a save of the day, once again.
WS on the run with the BKB, he turns this forward.
DM looking to try and get the stop out of the TP out, but they get away.
So they're not gonna get V2, they'll get the kill to WS, the look over of the shadow.
D-Man, that's gonna be the second one to fall.
But Makoto, he's under the OBS, and he is such an elusive hero.
It's so hard to chase and catch this Puck.
Doesn't feel doable for Yandex, but now they bought back on both the brew as well as the Beastmaster.
Only managed to kill Pluck once this game, which is pretty impressive.
He does have A on this, Luna also died only two times, so two cores, having a blast of
a game and with no buybacks available, it's going to be a very difficult fight.
No Roshan, it might respawn in a minute, so everybody from Aurora is going to be out,
even if it's a fast respawn.
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to get caught here, they got the roar but do they have the damage to get the kill.
It is so tough, Foods to travel them, follow them up and they've got the water sponge to
get the kill, he's there for 100.
Me caught him finally.
Oh yeah they did.
Let's see if they can get something else done.
He does have Bi-beck available, Roaches up.
That was a quick respawn.
That was right around Mars respawn, there's still one minute and 11 left.
And that is now Puckgun for AD. I don't expect Aurora to just let Roche go if they commit by Yandex.
But they'll be in a spot where they don't really have a space to TP over to.
And Tier 2 made a guess, and it's still kind of far away. This is just too quick.
They scan, but it doesn't matter. They get an AD for Watson, which he needs,
because he's getting ripped apart in these fights. And now a refresher shard from
from Aladich to get the double macro pyre upgraded with aggs down.
They have cheese to your junior, could step in, blink, crush,
have the cheese, he should be able to survive
and have a chance to lock down some of these heroes
with more crushes, more bashes.
This is potentially the big turnaround.
They also hit some big level 25s.
Brewmaster being the one.
As well, he's level 27 now, we did not mention that one.
in the Ru applies Clinton Loomis when he ignited, so Fear Mechanic is going to be online.
That happened in the fight over by the bottom set of rats.
It was a split second, but unfortunately I think that in that fight despite the fear Watson was
already in and he was kind of in this weird position where Yannick's when they're all aligned,
seems like the fights are so easy, but like when they're in these split fights it's almost impossible.
And another 25 was also the undispellable chorus of haze so you know if you get the instant jump
You know which one is going to be like especially for Luna when she tries to use the mantle style
We'll be able to jump in still see the right Luna
Waiting for tormentor it's back up
I'll grab it quickly and that will be shard for DM.
Upgrade to the liquid courage.
So pour another one in, he's got that liquid courage going on.
It's not a bad save, it's not like anything crazy, the status resistance is good though.
Probably drinking that Johnny Walker blue to get that look with courage
As top lane get pushed in by some of these creeps Aurora not looking to completely come in
Up against the Nages and all the goodies that Roche gave them
Live acts are resetting in three minutes. Let's see if Aurora maybe can't find an opening. This is the big
pick up on Mars. This is where you're online and he also did go for Arena of
Blood giving them extra HP region. So it's more about survivability, double
arena plus the victory fees facet. Pets, Pits, Watson in trouble. They've got the
Soxa Tusk blinking in, but what's the Aegis drop anyway? They got the Kill of
Emyra, taking out Vibe back, but now needs to go over to the outpost. Clips down on
a lot and trying to take a second life away kill, or he's also dead. He's gonna
He's gonna be forced to buy back, he's gonna be forced to go into the Tride, now there's the Refresh with the BKB, they go to the Disruptions, save Nira, back into the fight Makoto now, trying to secure this kill on a Wax, but they get the kill on a Mera once again, he already bought back, he's never 94.
Snowball saved Rourke once more, Wax is now running away, drums are sawing, trying to get away from these heroes that do so much damage, Vichu can't quite lock on to everybody.
There's the Refresh coming up from the Brewmaster, he's got himself another split. Kory, life training, trying to keep the Mars alive, the Cyclone there, once again onto the Luna, now WS.
He's got that arena. Nobody inside of the arena. The only ones in the arena are these Bruins.
Chir-Chir, he jumps forward. They've got a Cyclone once again onto the Luna.
The blink away from Sox who used that snowball to stay alive. These heroes on Yandex just
elusive to what Aurora is pumping their way and the damage just isn't getting there.
Yandex, they're going for the right targets. They need to take out these two supports immediately forcing another buyback.
There is Shadow Demon with the cheese, so maybe he can slot that in.
High five the cheese and resets are coming in minute and 30 seconds. Don't think Aurora is going to be able to push it in
It was a big window that allowed them to maybe go in and try to end the game
But they didn't get the hands on that Rochon
Three Roars used in the previous fight also would like to see what happened initially with the snowball save from tusk when he jumped in
Because it felt like he couldn't get it off or he used it on something straight away
maybe like double-clicked it.
Too certain.
I'm struggling to kill Watson a second time. He was close.
Okay, the fact that he had the Aegis obviously saves that fight, but there was a point where maybe they could have caught them,
Tusk jumped in, didn't end up snowballing Watson. He is very killable. He's going into the Lincoln's next.
He needs to be able to survive these fights. He's very fragile.
after seeing the hex pickup he needs extra bit of protection Luna now with
the big items with blink when you combine that with the arenas she can blink
inside pop the eclipse even though she has that acts already from before but
yeah she can just jump inside and deal insane amount of damage damage
reduction coming up from lunar orbit this facet is heavily underrated
Especially in the late game, 30% is a high number.
Definitely is a high number. We do have a little bit of a listen in from Watson, so let's take a moment to listen in.
I'm trying to come back. I'm trying to come back and have a look at the HP.
Trying to get back and you can see Watson, he's forced into these positions where obviously he's got to be able to get the damage out with the slalom and have the control.
Roars a plenty especially in that fight. I think there were three or four Roars within it
But Aurora just too much for him to handle at times and he needs to back away and get some help for the toss
There's a cleft. He's not sure junior. He's already dead. He doesn't buy back that's time around Citerbude is proc on a v2
He's feared up for a second, but he pops that man to
Jumping in for more jumping into socks as well as now it's not a cheese gonna get quite low
But he's got the good looking for a safe shards around him. They've kind of sold out v2 for the moment
They'll focus their attention onto the Mars.
DM with this split, these Brulings dying a little bit low.
They've got the disrupting.
There's the save on the Walrus Punch.
They go and find themselves the Primal Roar.
But they're not going to survive.
There's the person to get the kill.
They get the kill to me, dude.
He stayed 100 seconds with Byback.
And now the TP is needing to get out for the side of Aurora.
But WS unable to TP.
They've got the Walrus Punch once again.
They're going to catch him with the Citerbou fear.
And Watson's got a triple kill.
He got the split.
He's on it with the Boulder.
They get the stop on the TP of Kaori.
DMs on a killing spree, full supports down without buyback, and now it's a 3v4, but if they buyback on Malletage
They'll have a full fifth and they got to push it push it real good because it's gonna be Luna
Who's gonna be back into the fight when you lose these fights to Luna they can take your entire base
And they have to push it and they need to get those buybacks out Luna
And Clemson's gonna reset but no buyback for 50 from Aurora ready
I like the fact that Watson used refresher
Had a disperser ready, killed off Shadow Demon there, or was it Pugna?
It was Shadow Demon, never mind. And they also managed to get another roar onto the Luna.
Orion, Aeon, Desk, but you're in the air for so long,
but Kona's dead by that force to clips down,
Marina there, Kira Jr. trying to get away.
They got the Kona socks up and they're gonna find themselves a Sardar.
Sardar's gonna be dead for two minutes, so is this us.
This is the moment that they were looking for for Aurora,
three heroes to try and get it done.
Now they don't have buyback for this one,
and Watson now running has a blink,
but he's staying near.
It's almost like he wants to turn.
He does not have Aurora, so he'll just blink.
He'll commit the TP and get out of here.
It's time to go. They bought back.
Aurora, run it down the mid lane, Roshan.
May respawn in 25, but it could also be a very, very long respawn timer.
Full minute and a half without two heroes, Jekiro.
He has Makro Pyro, he did use Refresher in the previous one.
Watson, 8300 gold.
Almost feels like he needs to commit onto this.
Lincoln's to have a little bit more defense while they're trying to hold this last set of racks.
If Aurora do choose to push,
They're going to take over the outpost to have that TP spot back in.
PM, he's going for the backstab.
And they're sacrificing the couriers.
They are delaying the game with the couriers as long as they can.
Long 60 seconds, Glyph is ready.
PM on the other side, Puck with the refresher, so double coil.
Luna wants it, blank game.
Lucid beam, they're also going to bring WX.
They've got the hex, they'll get the kill.
They're going to have buyback available on the jacquero,
but they're going to go straight for the throne.
They've got a Glyph, they've got a hold,
They've got the sights, it's going to be thrown to the brew master.
He's trying to survive, trying to get those split off, but he gets the spinners.
They've got the split, they've got him.
They get the skill onto three, these heroes, they're all forced to fight back.
The clip comes out, we're going to try to end the game.
They went for an 18k wait and a second, and they lose.
It's Scandex, who give up the game on Rora, the batter stands tall for a moment longer
because they just stole game number two.
I want a crazy game.
Really back and forth, and Rora manages to get the dub.
those buybacks immediately jumping in with the arena with the eclipse and no buyback as far as cost them the game.
Wow, what a great job from Aurora. The buyback's costing them and it's going to a game three. Let's throw it over to Rich and the crew.
Yes, that is GG, as they say in the world of eSports, which if you knew it stands for good game, but that was a good game.
Kessie, nothing lang violin about that one.
Now this one was actually a full-on banger because there were so many cool things happening because like even here like it's early in the game
You're up 2k gold they make a very nice like smoke move here with Yanis, you know they get this kill onto the Luna
It's around the time where you then can go rose with the agonist
But there were so many like teamfights then later on in the game as well
Like you never really knew what was going to be going on like if you look here too
I think this fight in the triangle is like
Like very well executed in a way too, but I will say that I didn't really like how this fight starts
Like for the brew master. He's like here on his own
And I think here was the first time where you could really see like the power of the Luna like V2
It's just standing his ground with the glaze, you know just hitting into this brew split because Yanis at this point
They're up 6k gold. I really thought like this was not the best way for them to take a fight
Yeah, I mean another one of these games or V2
It like it looks like a 1v5. I mean, obviously there's a big supporting cast coming in here like WS
Obviously he was hitting a lot of the pick offs the two supports are saving people
So it's like natural that this sort of team
Composition is like going to look like the Luna is gonna be one be piving but I don't know
There's just something so impressive to me picking these like off meta weird heroes
Just because he likes to play them in a standing in in a tournament
In the playoffs and winning games with all of this pressure on your shoulders because like these other heroes are not gonna
carry you, they can't. Like maybe Mikoto on Puck, but even he was kind of flying a supporting
cast for V2 in this game. Yeah, I mean he did a lot on the Puck as well and I think this fight was
because you had a lot of very like high skill teamfights like how they you know happened. In
this clip like at the start you see like Watson, he goes around because you know the Luna has
edges, they fully ignore Luna. Like they got her edges with like some ice pads, he got lifted,
he gets stunned. Like this is like 50 seconds after the fight started, he had to pull the knife
Like he still had his VKB. He had full HP. So they won this fight, but at the end of the game, my boy CJ
I've been praising him. He's doing better. But in like one every tournament
He has this one play where he has no buyback. They go push the enemy base and he dies at the tier fours
Someone's gotta help brother. I don't do this anymore. Please. Do you think that's just like a
Emotional problem where you're like letting you're letting like the momentum that you're feeling like kind of get the best of you
We were like oh my god. We killed the Luna like we didn't itemize to kill Luna
And we still somehow managed to kill to go that one looked like a rush of blood because obviously like you say they weren't expecting to get
The Luna they got the Luna and then I think everyone was just like go go go
Let's go down mid and yeah because if you still have by Bix you can do it
But you know you just bought back they still have it so if now if you know they do the reverse uno card now they buy
Again, they kill you you're actually gonna lose so my brother
You know, I hope they can keep the spirits up high because Aurora they definitely like they got a steal here at the end
From with this game. Yeah, this was nice though
Like if you're if you're just into Dota like the art of the game, I think there's some this is the game
There's something so beautiful about watching these fights that go on forever
Because in like in order for that to happen where the fights are going on forever
It kind of requires like everyone to press their buttons, right?
Because if one person fucks up and doesn't press their buttons, right?
Like maybe there's not a pugnit decrepify at some timing
Maybe there's not an ST in prison and then then on the next thing where they had the BKB available
They would have used the BKB and they don't have it
And it's like that one moment means the fight ends there and the team that didn't make that blunder
Or or just didn't play perfectly like that team loses
So it's like you have to have five people on one side and five people on another side
Just like going absolutely ham for for this to happen
You're like here like looking at this like, you know, there's only one pocket life
And like you guys are saying it is like the moment that is taking it over and I will say it is a very clutch kill on
Mikoto like he has an A on this you have the nullifier like coming up with this idea
It's good, but it needs to be respected with like okay the guy who doesn't have by bait you cannot engage
So like maybe Watson can do it, you know, maybe I think DM here
He has five so they can go for but then it's kind of like Mikoto like giving himself up like for debate to really make this
Play happen. There was a lot of high-skill stuff, but this one that's a big blunder
I think that yeah, the even with all the high-skill teamfighting
It's like the thing that's different about the last two minutes of the game is that rush of blood
Where you are like we we're winning holy shit
We didn't like we pulled off the clutch plays like everything up until that point is focus and at that point
It's like you need the guy to be like yo chill focus like guys. It's not over yet. You know because
Yeah, just one mistake like that and it goes
Completely the other direction cuz like that's the thing like you play 58 minutes
And I think Yennex had a lot of fights that maybe other teams in that situation, they would not have one.
So like they clawed the game back, you have this 18k lead, but this is laking.
Laking with Albibeck, one crucial mistake, you're giving up the game.
There's something else you noticed that you wanted to talk about related to itemization.
Oh yeah, it's the good old, it should be the gold.
Because my boy Maladij, and all the supports out there, if you're playing the pubs,
he's got his neutral item, but more importantly, is that he has the greedy enchantment.
Because my boy Maladij, he was so big in this game.
And like he even kept this item over his next level just because you don't have greedy enchantments on tier 4 and tier 5.
So you have to keep it, he just kept playing with it and I think that these enchantments are so damn good.
I would even like go as far as to say if Saxa on the Tusk had a greedy enchantment in this game,
he would get his axe earlier, maybe they would win, maybe we would never even see this, you know, hit the tier 4.
Because then he would just kick a brother out.
somebody back yeah we were high like theorizing like how do they kill Luna
there's no MKB no bloodthorn like Tusk Ag's kickback was like the number one
condition this was the number one condition everything else was like if
they do this then this then this then this then you can kill Luna especially
cuz they were in their base all the time you get one kick into the fountain Gigi
yeah exactly and it was I mean they still managed to do it a couple of times
it was very impressive they want this was a banger game like it was a good one
I think it might be the game of this Valahia run it's Liam I think we've seen
some good ones. Top three. Top three for sure. I mean the question now is obviously when you've
played a game like that where you've done almost everything correct and then still nearly won
without even necessarily having to win condition and then you lose you know the mindset I guess going
into the game three was I don't know a bit of a bummer. It's important I think for them to just stay
clear because even like they can always make small adjustments but they should be happy with the
overall gameplay. It was not an easy game, even in hard moments. You could like claw back, I think
for Aurora it's like maybe important for them like in the mid game that they stay a bit more
stable, you know, you don't give up this pick-off into the rose, but both teams I think
coming clean, game three, let your gameplay do the talking. Yeah man, well let's go to a break,
I hope game three delivers like that game two did. We'll see if it does in a moment.
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talk shit to people I didn't make it here okay that's five it's a Mikota yeah
all right why is that I don't he just by good he have very good the win stage
just always I play against him he just super try hard okay super try hard
plays good not good enough to be past five I know from how about number four
okay number four maybe it's okay I'll put
what enough number four okay okay lord of mr. stand in all right all right why is
that I just watch him you have always good ideas about how he play how he
buying items it just very good if you can make it to a tournament what you tell
to get Lornoff?
Am I English not very good?
Would you be replaced by Lornoff if you had to be?
I really don't understand.
Okay, no problem.
All right, we'll skip that.
Don't worry about it.
Next, number three.
Okay, number three.
I think it's me.
You!
Number three?
No way.
Number three, yeah, it's me.
Okay, why is that?
There's two people here better than you?
You go?
No, I'm just, I think I'm just not very good.
I just need more time before.
This time gonna be number one. Yeah powering up number two. It's waro. Oh, okay
Laurel the swarov back after Hitchealing. He was very good now doing very well job. Yeah, vacation buff. Okay
Number one is Nisha Nisha Nisha. Yeah. Yeah. Now. Are you sure? I mean the guy is he really that interesting?
He just plays the same two heroes every game right just puck and ember, right? Yeah
Yeah, he's a good bucket ember though, right?
Alright, alright, okay.
Nisha got it.
Okay, Nisha got it is.
Alright, well thank you so much.
I agree with your list, except for you.
You should be number one, a hundred percent of the time, alright?
And we'll see you next time.
Welcome back a tied series between Aurora and Team Yandex.
All panel, should we call them Team Spandex?
Because they're looking to snap back down.
That was a good one.
He's not been pulling those.
I think now that you're here, he feels like he's not been pulling the spandex.
I always save the better puns for the playoffs, actually.
It's a rule that we have.
He builds them up in lots of more games.
No one remembers the day one.
He had a good one yesterday.
That was the one with Tundra and Parker.
Oh, yeah, it was it's called out there in the tundra. So make sure you get yourself a Parker
Wait, what was the Watson one? You never saw the Watson? I didn't see the Watson one that was uh, he's called Watts on
Because he's electric right now
Like that was it you'd said as a joke
There'll be more of those over the course of the broadcast, but anyway, thanks for the glazing guys appreciate I needed that confidence
Why don't we talk about the important stuff, the game, the deciding game.
Yandex have looked great in two games and yet Aurora is still in with a shout.
And of course we all know Aurora, they've had like prior to this a pretty good win streak themselves,
definitely in the ascendancy and even with the stand-in have been looking very good.
So they're probably going to be feeling we should be out of this.
Fortunately we got a game of throws occurring and we are still here.
I mean, they should be happy, I think, like, overall, you know, getting the comeback, I think, in this game also.
Mikoto, you know, it cannot be understated that he's, like, back in the team. You know, he wasn't with them for a while.
He always had Lornoff, who's, like, winning every game.
So I think also for, like, for him and his own confidence and for, like, how the team feels, it's good and nice for him to have, like, a pop-off game.
Like, the game just now on puck, it was very important that he had as good of a game as he did.
Because I think, had he not, it's very likely we wouldn't even be talking about them right now.
Yeah, and I mean they really early phase picked his hero to his hard countered in lane by a hero that
Just hard countered him in lane and had a very good showing like CJ had a extremely good game one on Sardar
So yeah, Mikoto is definitely
Proving his worth here, and I just had a realization that Aurora gaming is a is a 50 50
se a
EU team Kp true Australian sea
micoto
WS sea
krv to mira
EU this is what a what an interesting stack
I mean actually to go back to that like when the season like after like it was like the posty eyes shuffle when they made this team
I was like
That's very strange
But then it was still it was still with ollie who then later got swapped out because that was I mean it definitely didn't work
But now ever since they made this roster swap obviously they made it work really well because it is a weird mixture
You don't show I don't think we've really seen this before like the Eastern European with like sea like mixing together and working this
Well, yeah, I didn't make great melting pot of ideas. Yeah, it really is and I feel like korea was a nice glue to bring it all together
And I mean it looked like any team that he was on was successful
whether he was a stand-in or playing on friggin' Team Chimera that had already disbanded and getting top four in a Dream League.
So it's like, well, somebody's got to be the glue there. Let's try Kaorien. You know, obviously it's worked out so far.
Yeah, like you said, like even here, you know, with Mr. Vytuna as a stand-in, who's doing very well, like, again,
I would say that was one of the better Lunas we've, we have seen. Granted, we haven't seen that many,
but I think he had a very good build, very good, like, in terms of how he was positioning, how he joined the team,
And maybe one hero I'm looking for even more in this draft is, I mean, both the TA, but also the brewmaster.
I think DM in both games, he had very standout performances.
Like the way he was team fighting, what he's getting out of the game, he's barely dying and just doing all the right things.
I would not be surprised if Yandex look at it one more time.
And now we've got some adjustments coming in the band.
So let's see if Kaori gets to play one of his heroes this game.
It's possible.
It's like you might.
It's we're getting to that territory. I don't think you give him the Phoenix
I think that he has looked you would rather give him the wall look out of the two
Yeah, I think he's just looked too good on the Phoenix agreed and teams have not
respected it enough to ban it or they think it's just like a
vanilla hero that just will always do okay
But you know statistically speaking that is not true
I also think between the two phoenix probably gives you a few more problems you have to solve
Yeah, I mean I think so too. I would say that there's more like there's more counter play to a warlock
I think that also DM is a type of offlaner
He traditionally plays heroes and builds items naturally that are good against warlock like the mid game pipe the mid game
Lotus the mid game grieves where you're like the darks you're tied bristleback, you know
They're just like team fights into it, but I will say that Aurora there they are setting up for it
You know, you first phase banned the brewmaster.
That's another good hero for it.
I mean, I guess they're going for the Relief everything, so we at least get a trade on the Yandex side.
So choices.
I just think they're gonna lock the Phoenix in here.
Yeah, I think they might.
There's SD, there's Phoenix, there's Warlock, there's Shadowfiend, there's Trian, there's J'Kyro.
I mean, there's a lot.
That's literally the conversation.
Like, which OP support do we want?
I mean, you could also look for a way where if you...
Oh, T.A. as well.
Yeah, we forgot about the TA that's a nice one, especially with the brew band like not only because Yankees played it
Well two games, but it is great against TA
So let's see I would love I personally love Phoenix against TA whether it can even be off lane
Like it's your hero that you can collapse on it if you're the five you can go through the gate if you're an off
And you can just play on it you have DM standing that is what you have D guy
That's this is the guy that invented offline Phoenix
Because the thing is also there's just a high chance it gets banned out later
I mean, of course he will have other heroes, you know, we've talked about the others that are still good
You know, there's like shadow shaman. There's warlock, which is fine
But I would still look they show you this first pick TA you can look for something to like collapse on a serial later
Go for casual triant
I mean, it's it's fine like triant
The reason this year is like so toxic is mostly because it's so hard to lane against
You have to have some sort of counterplay to it. You have to have some like Beastmaster, Timbersaw, something where you're like cutting the trees.
Faceless Void, we've seen Vichy do that, where they legit just say, yep, lane is screwed.
I can't remember which one it was, but they counted, have I been tundra? They counted the tree with 5 deforestation arrows.
Yeah, they did it.
And actually, no, it was Power of Vision, and the tree still won.
Yeah, that can happen so this is honestly the records are not so bad for him early on in the tournament
It felt like it was real bad. It was bad teams were kind of figuring it out
But I think as like other heroes are going up in priority. That's
The counters just aren't there like for example early on in the tournament
We saw the Largo for triant trade and then the triant team would lose because Largo is very good against triant
You can just look off the triant ulti the living armor. It's like a hard counter
But yeah, people are kind of figuring out how to play with the tree a little bit better
Aurora take away the Phoenix alluding to what you were talking about Kezu
Yeah, which I mean I will I kind of need to see what Yannick's not doing the second phase because you had the choice to take it
But you know Aurora they're obviously smart and I said, okay
We can't give them, you know the tree and the Phoenix because we talked about it after game one
Like we would like a hero that has a better carry to carry matchup whether it's a TV
Maybe Muerta
I think that should be a good matchup into the TA or a draft that really slows down the TA in the early game because in this entire
Tournament, I don't think we've seen that like minute 10 all these TA games. You're just up there and I guess they're picking
They're picking Medusa. Why are we betting anti-mage?
I mean they're picking Medusa on 16-17
They are picking Medusa on 16-17. There's no reason to do that
But they just think that Aurora is not going to pick Medusa because that would be stupid because they have TA Medusa.
It looks like there's offline Medusa where this hero would never lose the lane, but I would assume they would still want to play it carry.
But I will say this looks very bizarre.
This is so funny. I'm glad we get to witness this. It's just hilarious.
Yeah, I don't think you 15 Medusa just to take it from them.
from the no but you can like preemptively counter it I guess with with something if you think that
it's coming out at least with something that like doesn't feel bad to just generally have but is good
against Medusa which is not warlock I mean nix assassin in my opinion it's very good Medusa is
unplayable into nix assassin it's completely unplayable and Mira does play it I mean line is good
good too. I think that's a very smart approach to just pick something that is they already
are willing to play this. It's good in lane with like a lot of the heroes that they already
want to pick for WS. Amira is already playing it. It's like just good in the game with TA.
You can jump and burst somebody with like Lion Hex and TA burst. But then if Medusa
it does come out you have some sort of option it is like a lever gas or it is
quite funny like cause like if there's no Medusa this band doesn't really make
sense but it's so funny that it's so like like tailored and predictable oh my
yeah okay so that's a good it's a good double pick you get sent to our stampede
is quite good in this game it's good against the soup it's good against the
traps you're just I mean you're not great against TA like in the game because
She has high physical damage, you're a low armor hero,
but it is a good looking draft.
I will say it's quite slow in a way.
Like all these heroes, they lack damage,
they need some items.
Like when you look at the Centaur Medusa and so on,
but it is quite funny.
I mean, Darkseer's out, that's a good counter.
Centaur's out, that's good against Medusa.
Like Tidehunter is pretty decent.
Tide is quite good.
I also like Pango and thought I would never say that.
I like Pango as well and I was thinking about saying it,
I don't sound stupid, but it sounds stupid evening crew. Oh, that's we back each other. You see baby, baby
Yeah, I mean didn't collapse play today. He did means I thought the hero was dead
I've been I think he's the only guy that can make this version of pango work
I've I've seen people I've seen people tried in like pro level pubs. They just got nerfed and my boy my boy FNG was
spamming some
Pango offline going 4 4 0 0 build. Okay
Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's it's different. It's not the same hero they used to be
Yeah, I mean at least you know the diffuser is good and it gives you the answer to the team fight
You talked about the tide which I think does very similar things like it does it
Like not in the same way, but it gives you like very like team fight security
Also, the anchor is so OP against MP. So that's still something even though it doesn't come out now
It's a here that you had like should respect. Mm-hmm. I love the idea of storm here
There's just no good disable on the side of Yandex for a storm
And I think you'll probably end up going for a grieves build against Triant
Like storm already kind of likes going grieves at either way. Yeah. Yeah, so you can you can go for that take off the tree and ulti and
Yeah, it's just just generally a good storm game. Then they have the protection bands right now for the storm
Okay, I guess for Yandex, I mean they'll see later of course like what else is coming out
I think for them is always the
I think overall the spirits are quite good here, like whether it's some Ember,
I think you can look for the hero that slows down the storm a little bit,
because you also have living armor to play with that should help your lane,
like even more, you know, whether it's 5% or 10% in the lane to help you win,
even more would be quite nice, because you're, I think right now,
nobody has anyone to play around.
You have SD disruption into center storm or like a random tree and setting up an
overgrowth. We need something to play with.
Okay, there's an Underlord band, so at least one of the two heroes we did mention earlier will go through.
I feel like Aurora's got a band ember, right? It's like Counter to Storm and Lane in game as well.
And it does all the things that you were saying that is needed for Yandex, like a hero to run around and do stuff.
It's also like Pokey, you know? You can kind of chill somewhere and like poke and wait for an opportunity to go in later with the Centaur ulti.
He's also one of the few guys like it if you pop flame guard and you have like magic wand
You're probably living long enough against like storm lion that maybe your ST can save you or that the living armor comes out
I mean, I could see something else like maybe some I know CJ. I think CJ does play tiny which is okay
I think just like you're like also a tanker guy that doesn't die immediately, but I don't necessarily love it if it supports
I think it's good with ST
I could see CJ also just going for Queen like I think that's fine
Yeah, it plays it quite well. It's not as good as the ember, but the ember was it was a little too good
They you know it gave them everything they needed so Aurora takes it out and Queen is you're
Kind of like that like you're a hero that can go in first
Especially if you know that you're gonna have a good lane, which he he will against storm spirit
I do like it with the two supports to be fair like I think the living armor will help it a lot
You have a good lane against the storm and it yeah
And if you don't get bursted you get the disruption to then like you know still continue to like go in and out
because it is nice I think if you find a still a semi-core sure Medusa can win
the game but you don't want everything on the snake lady
and what else we got it is mr. WS I mean this guy he's very very versatile when
it comes to his hero pool I don't know if there's because Medusa I mean obviously
she makes like different heroes you know they're gonna pango holy shit I think it
sense. Let's say Tide is one. Next to nine, that's the big one.
I mean, Kunka is also not bad. Like any, you know, Crimson Pipe Builder, Tanki Guy, I mean,
Aurora really needs a dude that is a beefy boy that can just go in. So to me, it's the
the Nautical Fellows and the Kunka and the Tidehunter.
I'm trying to think if there's something spicy in a way,
but I think maybe most of them
have just already been removed.
Bristol is not too bad.
I don't think it answers as much as the other two,
but it is something WS likes.
They go for Tide, okay.
They go for the Occam's razor, the easiest approach.
It's just stable, it's solid.
You're like you're not getting pressure by the slain by Medusa you have anchor smash later. You can always play in the front
I mean even now they have no real condition to like kill this tide in any way and he's back there by a lot of team
Fight they also have like Roche capability with the TA. I don't mind Queen against tide
Like when you get the ags in fact that he just insta dispels the dagger and you get a
Immediate like tide is now, you know, 80% HP instead of 100 because
Invoker cool nice
God, it's greedy, but it's good and so you do have like a good amount of setup, right?
You've got the, I mean, you've got disruption into Stomp, like especially on the bottom
line.
Top is not super easy to hit.
Doesn't CJ have like a billion Invoker games, does he?
It's like one of his best heroes.
Two thousand or something like that?
Crazy.
He is definitely one of his best heroes.
You also now get, you do get to Alacrity later on the Medusa as well, so of course it is
quite good.
They've set up for Sunstrike. Shadow Demon is pretty good for that.
Even like SD Centaur plus Sunstrike, that's a guaranteed kill right there on a little lion or warlock.
Do you guys listen to each other on the morning crew?
What?
I'm kidding.
It was good that you rephrased the double stone.
Yeah.
The SD Centaur?
Exactly.
With the Valker Sunstrike?
Because CJ has 2,000 games with Valker, right?
as well has some okay setup especially for the cataclysm yeah tree and ulti plus
cataclysm yeah yeah you got it that's good you saved it save the segment
save the city sometimes you just see the whole draft and you're trying to
picture how it plays out in the head and then some guys just yapping in your
ear saying shit about Sunstrike someone like it's probably not that useful and
then I just say the exact same thing that happens that's nice socks but no it's
It's a it's a it's a cool draft that I like the fact we're gonna see him and do some game here
Even though I don't think the hero's been that successful. We saw it once I mean last time they play
They didn't ban the AM last time which was also very strange, so you know, they learned their lesson
Yeah, and we asked them about it. They said yeah, we just forgot that's crazy
I mean, I like their draft on you know, Yanex aside, but it is it is very slow
Like the early to mid game should be Aurora favorite in my mind
What's funny about them saying that they forgot, though, to ban the AM, was you did a whole segment about going,
I think what they've done is they've done the calculus.
You kept choosing the word calculus.
Listen, they've done the calculus.
No, no, no, we...
I've got to throw now.
I mean, you haven't got time for a rebuttal, I'm afraid.
I have to take the L.
Right, we're going over the slacks on the sidelines.
Thank you so much, Richard Lewis.
Yes, we are here at Camp U again.
Good to see you again, my friend.
It is a pleasure.
Now, were you surprised that they picked Medusa
And then banned AM.
Were you banking on them not doing that?
What do you mean?
They banned DUSA first, and then they picked AM.
I mean, they banned AM, and then picked DUSA.
Yes, yes.
Were you surprised that they banned AM this time?
Yeah, I mean, for sure.
But I mean, I mean, in game one, they banned DUSA as a response
to the 9TA pick.
So I mean, I guess it wasn't too surprising,
but in this meta, it is kind of new.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, they're the only team that's running, not very
successfully.
I don't think it's one yet.
So kind of scary now you guys very used to sucking as we saw from a game one this time
You're gonna bring in the lion to do some sucking here. You think that's gonna have some impact against this doza
Oh, yeah, for sure. I think you're kind of for you is like, oh guys, I guess I can just play line
Cooking right there, that's his corpse cooking on the ground there. Unfortunately
No, it's not okay. Not a good start
But you guys had a miraculous comeback last game, you know, it was very very good game one
is a bit of a warm-up. In your honest opinion, how are you feeling about your win chances in this one?
Very good. I think we've got a lot of heroes. We have TA into Centaur. We have fight into Zusa.
I'm expecting 6k on my TA. 10 minutes, 6k on my tide. Storm is going to get 6, Walsh is going to get 6.
They're going to open mid tower, after mid tower. Next golem, when we go top. After top, when we
go bot, dead golem. And then after that, we're going to get 14-minute wisdom bot and it's just
Okay, okay. I just heard 666 and then a bunch of random stuff. So thank you so much. Hail Satan. Maybe win this game
By writing this down writing this down and getting the the script that he just stated and all its glory sounds so simple
Yeah, he was it was a six on TA that six on tide then they were gonna get six in the world out
They're gonna bring it in and we'll see if it happens
Yeah, it's talking more about the network at 10 minutes 6k you missed the 10 part
It should be a good and easy lane for Tidehunter. You are playing against Medusa and Trin protectors.
You're like more levels you get once you get to like level three.
It's gonna be very difficult for them to put any pressure onto the Tidehunter and he also started with Gush
playing into Lion. Want to see what the build is gonna be better. He's gonna be going for
102 build. You do have more points in Mandarin playing against Medusa.
could potentially try to remove some of that but again not too much synergy with
Trian protector and Medusa in the lane with the heals that you're getting it's
really not effective. When we saw the big Medusa beatdown was it with
Atrian as well? I believe it was right? Let me just double check that real quick.
No, they had Phoenix on side of Aurora.
So kinda in this similar vein, right?
Yeah, it's not like you can get kills in this type of lane, especially if the offlaner
is something that is strong, something that is beefy.
But Medusa's gonna get the farm.
Like I don't think they're gonna be getting kills, maybe some turn around kill, some trade
kill, but other than that they should be okay.
And also looking at the lineup from the index, this is not like the most aggressive lineup.
It is Centaur who likes to get the farm, Medusa loves the farm as well, so does Invoker.
So little worried for them who's going to be trying to set things up.
Like post 10-15 minutes, how you're going to be able to start a fight, it might need
to be one aura item, of course with the helm of the dominator, and then Centaur picks up
the blink dagger.
I remember DM going for, like when he was playing in Part of Vision, where he was going for, like, Blindag or Second Item, when they needed to be the initiator, when he's playing in the Timbersaw, he builds into early DKB as well, so I want to see how he's going to be approaching this issue, knowing that you don't have a reliable way to start a fight.
Your supports are very defensive, they kind of need to get initiated on, so that they do something.
Sometimes Trink can kind of get in there in Viz, but that's rare.
Trink usually gets blinked triggers, but it's very far in the future.
Oh yeah, item one, sometimes not even item two.
It's a very strong lineup.
Once you, like post 20-25 minutes, once you get the ball rolling with the Lackardy on Medusa,
maybe a saving item on Shadow Demon, probably someone who's going to get Solar Crest in this one
to amplify the damage output of Medusa.
One aura on the Centaur invoker with the Meteor Hammer.
Socks up trying to make a move in the mid lane, but in the bottom lane DM he is trying to creepscape again
That's what that's what he does best. Yeah left alone
That's how he played in poor vision as well and trying to make something happen out of it
He's used to this. Yes, not an easy lane for him playing into them for assassin and quite a lot of harassment
Spike on to Socks it would be that rotation leaving like I said DM alone, but WS
Sunstrike in the right spot and Mallardage will get the last right click on to WS after the Sunstrike connects
I was not expecting them to land the Sunstrike's in the top lane. It is they have no setup
But he managed to land one and that's all it takes Mallardage
Gets the kill unfortunately. Churgy would definitely love to pick that one up
but in theory
The bottom lane is good
And you also have the Cataclysm set up once Trim Protector gets in with the Overgrowth, with the Cataclysm, that's going to be a nasty combo.
If he's wanting to get a big Cataclysm, do you think it's just like Solarcrest Blink Dagger for Trim Protector?
I think he's going to be going for like one smaller item, other than Solarcrest. He loves to buy drums on his position 5.
Right.
And then decide whether he needs a Shard or if he needs a Blink Dagger.
I think Soxine, this one can get the Solar, even though most of the damage on their side is magical, everything except for TA of course, but Solar Crest kinda needed.
Good start for Yandex, first blood, two kills already, and a 1k gold lead.
Not bad at all, getting towards that six minute rune.
CC DM still continuing to just kind of creep cut going for the helmet that you talked about
Storm is out of the lane he
Is gonna have the ability to TP back in for around that six minute rune mark, but with Earth's fight missing
CJ is gonna be able to get back
to his side of the lane
Bit of bonds don't really do much to him. Yep miraculous moment for Chara Jr.
They need the two supports to come in, but they don't get the kill.
WS slows himself down as Ring of Health, but another snake in a second should be able to get them to kill.
There it is. Sunstrike that landed. Took a chunk of his health away.
WS struggling in this way, and these Mystic Snakes have been hitting real hard out of the tide.
And while that's going on, True Junior, he was able to deny that amplified damage.
Taking that away and still controlling the mid lane, making sure Makoto is not going to have access to refilling that bottle. Right now he's sitting with three bottle sips anyway.
Very good start for Yandex. This lineup isn't really aggressive, but they are the ones having three kills, which is a very good start.
And once Invoker gets to his Meteor Hammer, he can start pressuring the tower even more.
Ford spirits with the meteor hammer these tier one towers completely melt
Validitch they scanned him they know that he's going this way
He's gonna stay in viz. We've seen this before he might pick it up. Can you know get in? Oh, it's so close gets in and we'll give it up. I
Don't think either of them would have had a way
to see him initially, but he gets out and
Make sure that he's just not giving up his life
No reason to stand there, get hit, get spotted, get killed.
This leaves Watson just so experienced, he's got himself 13 charges on that one, he's still
holding onto some mangoes, he's just looking to sustain this lane, and Treant's been there
for a couple of shots in WS.
Tide not really having the best start.
No, in theory he should have, but these Sunstrike, the two that they used, did connect.
You can see he's able to stay in the pocket in the lane, but even these mystic snakes
are a little bit tough for him, and I think the knowledge, truthfully, doesn't really
need to stick right next to the Medusa, and can stack some of these cats.
First fight connects, but they've got Stampede that will let Soxa leave this engagement.
Not sure Stampede was necessary, Kyori is still level 3 on Warlock, Mira already used
This is stun, bind, stopping that TP, WS turns to GOSH and actually avoids the Sun Strike this time.
Gonna take a lot more to get the kill onto this tide.
They don't get the courier either. That Sun Strike needed to finish off the kill onto the tide.
That's what's been letting them kinda break the Kraken Shell.
And I don't mean the ability to just, cosmetically, break that outer surface of the tide hunter.
Interesting build from WS. This is something that I thought it's gonna be
slightly more popular because I don't why not Ring of Health being the one of
the items in Veil of Discord and a lot of the times on Tide you don't want to be
building into like Vanguard Crimson doesn't really work and then if you need
to buy a casual Ring of Health just for the laning phase it feels good to
Amplify a bit of a team damage with 12 discord and then you keep it there eventually you are gonna get she was but just for
There this is basically what was happening. I lost the track of time
But I would say like two and a half maybe three years ago when people were buying
Helm as
Everybody's first item. Yeah, Helm of the iron will so it was like six region per second
And I think it was five armor at the time or six point five region
It's been nerfed a few times. Yeah, I think at one point it cost like 12 52. Hey, it was more expensive than it is now
Tom's right about coming out of the Iron Road the expensive item the 951
Don't quite get the kill the fatal bonds connect and
Be able to disengage on that
Again lacking the lockdown but also not wanting to commit on that one
As they just back off to really farm the jungle, he's got this meteor hammer, true
junior, could put some pressure out of these stacks, could get some towers as well, he's
got a lot of options, his farm going pretty well.
They're going to be helped out here with DM, trying to get this ancient stack going their
way.
Huge amount of gold going their way, 11 stacks, but also on the other side Aurora, 12 stacks
for them. Stormsford did clear already some of them. Damn, quite low. But he's got the
moving honor from the Tree Protector to just survive. This whole time, both carries pretty
wide open. Who's this benefiting more?
Double Assassin is a bit more explosive, Kerry, but this is a good matchup for Medusa
with the items that she is buying, with the butterfly and everything. But we've seen
this like similar matchup when we go back to this Medusa game that they did play on Aurora
where they lost against. There was an Atomage problem in that game.
Blinding in, Saksa. Orchek's pulled back and has the disruption saved on itself but
pretty dead to rights as Makoto comes over and gets that one. Makoto the MVP of game
number two in my eyes. For a good reason. He completely popped off. Dakota Storm, also
one of his best heroes, I would say.
It feels like maybe Makoda Plank. So, well, he might have a little bit of a chip on his
shoulder after Aurora with Lornoff also had success previously. So, he's here to not only
keep his stay but prove everything behind him and I feel like he's been playing
almost not perfect but very close to it he has had amazing games throughout this
tournament you might like a pizza but you might not like it as much to be get
kicked from the team and every single time Lauren off is used as a stand-in I
think everybody starts sweating whoever is the player missing from the team
Nicoto used a lot of his mana here uses a lot of the mana and started to back away
on Miro, but that Meteor Hammer lands, the Defending Blast is there and Chur Junior gets
a kill onto the support lion.
Don't spread, he gets the rune, Overgrowth did not connect, but Chur Junior with early
Meteor Hammer is going to have it again in couple of seconds, can't go for the tower.
Doesn't want to commit, Warlock is behind him, few Black Remore charges, will push him
to level 6.
Not a lot on the Grim War, you'll see it.
GM stamp feeding just to get away from the Temporal Assassin, he does have access to that
desolator now.
KP, he talked about the TA having 6k at 10 minutes, it was 5.5, but having a complete
free farm for V2 and didn't get the kill.
Catacombs.
Over-dropped.
And here's Spike Finger Combo, that's a kill that's your junior with, okay, where are
you getting credit?
And now the ravage top, but this is not the easiest trio to get away from, the nature's grass sores them up, this should be a kill, and will be for Watson.
All that being said, they dropped that chaotic offering off on mid, and you can just use that golem to get that tower, and that's exactly what they did.
They had the decider later there too with v-tunes, so mid tier one's gonna be dropping on Yandex, is that it?
And stealing some of the farm.
Luckily for Yandex, they did clear the big stack that they did have.
I'm looking at the carry-to-carry matchup. Watson, immediately going into butterfly,
Manthas-style butterfly, and then we'll see what he's going to decide to go for next.
I think this is a very good Silver Edge game, being able to break Tidehunter.
You can definitely bring him down from 100 to 0, there is no save other than Golem.
It's really tough to have many saves here for Aurora, meanwhile in Yandex the initial
jump you can stop with the Disruption, but other than that, Living Armor is hopeful for
Yandex to try and keep these heroes alive, get maybe the Stampede off or the Stone Gaze,
but Living Armor not as much of a work with for the Medusa of course.
But Mira down here, bottom level 7, he got that first stack off the finger and immediately
off the tranks wants the blank so he wants to kind of help that
initiation tight hunter who's going into the she was early first item
and you know not going to be that that blink initiator he's going to be
walking in to get these ravages or have those gushes from a distance but
not immediately being that guy boy grab itch
I've seen something similar from ace when he played tight hunter a couple of
times going straight for she was if it's not that good of an aura game if you
don't necessarily need to buy a pipe. Sure, there is good amount of magic damage. Coming
up from Invoker, Centaur is so-so, Medusa is most physical. So she was guard to slow
them down, reduce some of the regen, Sunstrike, just got them things out trying to put a bit
of pressure on V2. Let's see how he's going to approach it for her. He's going to be
afraid, move from the triangle. But this Medusa has insane amount of farm. Keeping up
with Emperor Assassin, she has not been contested, has two kills to her name.
Gonna be Carrie v. Carrie, at almost full potential
if the way these two heroes are getting farmed.
The only real difference is the offlane.
WS struggling a little bit more than the Centaur.
That's led to Centaur getting the Humbed Dominator going into the Lotus,
If the Toto jumps in, he will fight for a second, but does it really have the follow-up or the control to make sure that these heroes are got initially?
Confidant bonds into chaotic offering, but again, just not the immediate commitment to a follow-up allows the side of Yandex to just kind of leave.
A lot of ways that this engage the fight, this has to be one of the best disengaging lineups I've actually seen in a while.
You have Medusa with stone gaze invoker with tornado stampede overgrowth, then you start to run away
so every single hero pretty much does have a way of
Choosing where they want to take a fight or whether they want to be taking that fight to no golem for two minutes
Sure, junior with freshly bought the road of a toss. That's gonna be extra bit of a control for Stormsprint pre-BKB
And along to land the combo
Maybe they go to defend this tower, because they've got the gold and they're over mid to get the tier one, they're going to start to TP in, they have the glyph ready.
They have the glyph and if they don't get the tower they can heal it up, but they've committed they've got it.
And now they go to the round of mages, they have the deafening blast as well as the meteors down the gorgons, Grant blocks down this Templar assassin with the help of Overgrowth.
Stonegaze committed, Beechin's dead, Kail'uri on the run, but he'll fall to watch.
Two kills for the Siding Index, and a Sunstrike Throne, but that's off the mark on Mira.
He's now trying to get away from the Invoker. He starts that Meteor Hammer for a second, stops it.
And that's a Lion that can walk away safely.
I think he misclicked. I think he caught a glimpse of him with the Road of Aetos, and then clicked the wrong button.
But the big fight. Pretty clean execution.
Road of Aetos, it's a Meteor, and then Maladich overgrows onto two heroes, keeps them in place.
Just long enough for Meteor to take the damage and Templar Assassin she wanted to join in level 15 with Bligthas so this is pretty much your timing
last three extra armor reduction coming up from Meld but unable to do much they did kill the tower though so at least that's something
but a big big boost to Medusa she was dead for a long time in these type of matchups Templar Assassin doesn't like to die
Bigger? This is a problem, Gordon's grasp, they've got the fingers, so they'll just burst and kill off this invoker, they commit the stampede, Makota doesn't have a lot of mana to work with initially, but enough to escape.
And the Earth Spike from Mira, but DM working with a haste just doesn't want to commit onto the lion, will get away with this kill on the invoker inside the triangle of Yandex.
Commimons were there and everything worked out with Makoto joining the fight.
He's still sticking ahead of this Invoker and he's sitting 102 with the 9 Galvanized
Axe and with him, beams arrive a little so far with not that much catch available to
stop this Storm Spirit.
He's going into the BKB and he's going to be even more elusive and even more effective
in these fights. You don't care too much about demonic purge as long as you have enough mana.
Overgrowth is something that can stop you. Stone gaze through the BKB, so they have tools to do so.
Agmira is playing with Picoto right now, replenishing his mana constantly.
Just being a mana battery.
Why not?
here is also got the the greedy enchantment so he's fine he's fine
following him very interactive gameplay but I'm getting the gold I might as well
just help out Mike my core that's gonna be winning us the game in the moment
right exactly
T.A. still kind of farming it up is holding onto a tier 2 Dormant Carrier, so that's of
course looking towards the future.
What do you expect T.A. to spend that Carrier on, or what do you want to spend the Dormant
Carrier on?
Carriers, they, I mean there's a butterfly on the enemy team, so ideally you'll want
to get Seraph the Trim.
as you are losing because it's against Medusa she doesn't have that much HP so
8% of target targets current health as bonus physical damage isn't really a
lot but the miss chance might help him enter that or you want to gunpowder
gauntlet okay well we'll see in about five minutes what the dormant curio
turns into meanwhile shard picked up for dm
Scepters? Sharp. Very strong, especially when you can just survive in these fights, constantly outputting these double edges.
Can get pretty tanky.
Something that'll be good later on.
Eventually if he picks up that agonim scepter, wants that workhorse, he's throwing out these double edges.
He can be very tanky.
Pick up the Medusa, turning into the moving turret. Right?
Another one of those games where Yandex, they've got a little bit of lead, but Aurora are doing
a good job around the map just continuing to farm.
What's next on the, uh, synopsis for them?
Ideally, they would like to get involved and try to get Rouge for Templar Assassin, but
right now fighting into this Medusa, not gonna be the easiest thing.
Butterfly, Mantisal completed, very high level, they need to get a pick-off.
Roshan right now is on the bottom side of the map, Jirajunior waiting for his Agatom Scepter,
they have Link Dagger on his Scepter, so ways of going in and starting the fight.
Equizim's gonna hit hard, so you're picking line it all up.
A lot of big items, like they can amplify the damage of this Medusa, it's gonna be a scary thing.
Solar Crest plus Elegantum Medusa.
That Hunter opted to go for a bit of a different build, which I'm kind of glad he did.
Finding in, Cortex.
The gush with the axe, but there's the Stampede.
You said the team disengaged as well.
They also land that tornado, that's part of it.
Good BKB from Makoto.
Stopped himself from getting hit from that hookstuff.
They're disrupting and socks up with the counter's point.
They're getting hit with this ravage, but now they go to the stone gaze.
They're going to try and throw this one around.
Overgrows Blames on the Templar Assassin.
That's where they want the attention to be.
Another stop to the teamfight that was coming out from the side of the index.
2G News in trouble throws up the cataclysm of the damage, not quite there with the BKBB pop-by-B-Tune.
They get the kill onto the evoker, now the look over is maybe they can get the rest.
Makoto dealing with about half health health mana as the disruption is on the WS.
Tidehunter controlled for the moment.
Watson mirrored by using that mystic snake, getting himself a little bit more mana.
Gorgon's grasp lands onto 2.
Here though, Jumpzid now trying to drain that mana.
Blink, Poostop controls up the lion, they're going to use that bonus to reflect the hex that's on the mirror.
They go to the double check and get the kill on him while they end up trading Soxa.
DM's in WS right behind the Makoto here with the Shadow Urban, has no manner to play with,
another host off the box up Tide.
But DM hit by this AIO, gosh, with that axe, and they won't get the kill onto the Centaur Warrunner.
That completes a three-man death on Yandex in a victory for Aurora overall.
Cataclysm did not connect. I don't think it hit pretty much anything yet.
You can look at the damage numbers.
1000 damage only coming out from him two supports on the index they don't deal damage. It's more about
Like saving people and this engaging and it was a good disengage very good disruption
They figured out the look at socks and now with the tumblers toy immediately after he doesn't even get clipped
So basically this ravage doesn't hit anything and they still lost the fight because overgrowth it hits temporal assassin
And immediately they dropped the rock and then lion comes from the side
George Jr. now he uses it and they all run away. Clip WS, I think one of the
Sun Strikes just hit him and that's about it. So not that much damage being done by
that initial cataclysm. It's a long drawn-out fight where they try to chase
for the Templar Assassin and you just can't get their hands on him either.
Makoto doing a lot of work here too with a lack of mana, honestly overall. For most
of this fight he's working, look at him here. He's got a sliver of mana, but he's
He's still doing enough to control these heroes and give the rest of his team that timing to be able to follow up when he starts off.
And he also didn't die.
Yep.
Then Galvanized Stack, it's not like the most. Lion can replenish some of his mana.
And I'd really like to point out some of the builds that I really like.
Yasha and Kaia on Storm Spirit, because you're building into Kaia anyway, which he's going to turn into Manfist style.
You're playing against Medusa, the Gorgons grasp.
Most importantly, this is against the Overgrowth, so you have an extra way of getting out, and there's also level 20 available on Templar Assasins for refraction.
Damage, he didn't go for the refraction, the spells, maybe that would be another way of him getting out of the Overgrowth, but for now, it seems like he wants to have that explosive damage.
Yeah, trying to get the red damage item of Daedalus.
And with that fight they evened it up on the net worth, but this game has been
relatively even the entire time 3k is not that much of a lead in which
Really favoring one side of the other too much especially with two carries that kind of
Form similar agree, but not a you know the same items
We're trying to get to similar points in the game, right? Yeah
Watson was also miss like Watson's buying very expensive items. He is building at the Scotty, which is a six
Okay, item. And Templar Assassin, she's buying into smaller items, even having Dragon Lance,
then having Hurricane Pike. Means a lot to her in a fight in her damage output. Scotty
about to be completed. Very good item against these ranged heroes in general, especially
in carry-to-carry matchup, and they have four ranged heroes.
Blink Dagger, next on the docket here for Tree Protector. We talked about having that
deeper overgrowth to get that control to line up the cataclysm.
Yeah, I thought he might skip his shard
and go for blink dagger.
Have it a little bit earlier.
Have it a little bit earlier.
It's a good way like you start with the centaur,
you have the doosa parked in front,
then you land two, three men overgrowth with cataclysm.
It's a very good setup.
But once he gets a blink dagger, they will have multiple BKBs.
There's a Yul Sceptron Tidehunter, so all three cores have one ways of dispelling the overgrowth.
Kind of giving me this feeling that you might think the Blink Dagger is a little bit too late to have as much effectiveness.
Ah, no. The Blink Dagger is always going to be good. It's just that I would like to have Media Priority shifted.
It would be ideal if he was the one that got the Shard from the Tormentor, and then you have the gold by the Blink Dagger.
Yeah, sometimes, not getting the luck factor, but at this time, we'll see the blink, we'll
see what he can do with it once they get to that point, and if the items that they picked
up with these BKBs are too much, it's potentially gonna sting.
Tidehunter, he, you know, like you said, has that Nules, and with the two BKBs, what do
you do afterwards?
What do you do?
Are you weeding on the overgrowth BKB's in my hoping they yeah
He might be because they have other ways of this again to fight the robbing the BKB's maybe using road of 8 tosses
Centaur stun socks with the ulti try to bait some of these BKB's and then jump it. Yeah, also a deuce up. She
shows unrelenting I
answer neutral items, so
Increase slow resistance by 65 this has been
Upgraded by Unleash by Torment Curio, she could have played Undulation, the other faceture
she didn't want to get slowed.
That's the Offlane facet, back a couple of months ago where it was super popular with
the Radiance build, maybe that was a year ago, Watson goes by quickly, WS, jump in,
hook stop, trying to drain some mana off screen, but they've got Storm going into Maladich,
They didn't have to have E2 against the kill.
Onto the tree, they have Gem on both sides.
Centaur trying to...
be the tank you want to hold the vision.
Meanwhile Storm's trying to be the mobile one to get the vision.
We'll take out that trap, and now they've got the Alacrity.
Onto lots of you start with the Stone Gaze, but the Earth Spike lands right as he uses that.
So lots of them now from a distance, kind of goes back down and lands on a WS.
They get the Code of Kaori too.
Roshizoba Kodo's in, he doesn't have a lot out of the play with.
Tornado comes through and lands onto the Templars.
Morgan's grass, not gonna matter, blinks away, able to escape. V2 now thinking about going back in, but Blink hooks up VKB.
V2 gets it, nice with the damage on the socks. They get the snatch on the Aegis for Watson.
They get the kill on Amira. VKB runs out on V2, and he's able to escape, but three heroes down at the side of Aurora, and they still get this Aegis on Watson.
Nice try from Amira. He blinks in. I believe he's the one that actually gets the last hit in a roche, and Mantle-style Dodge from Watson picks up the Aegis.
You can see the power of Medusa. She can just stand there, rest of the team amping her up.
Alacrity, Solarcrest coming out, and this is going to be another big damage output.
I thought he might pick it up as his third item, but opted to go for Scotty, which I think overall is a better choice.
It's just that this Silver Edge is such a good item in the current meta, capping your move speed and applying to the break mechanic.
Which is going to be pretty massive against the Tidehunters.
Getting this Aegis, giving themselves maybe four minutes of reprieve to build up some
of that network lead again.
You can see when those Cataclysms do land, they do hurt.
They were able to wipe out WS pretty quickly, and he's supposed to be the tank unit.
Unfortunately, not in a case like that.
Other Torm, the 30-minute Torm to be taken.
getting that shard for Soxa. That means he's got it. Centaur's got theirs. Maladich has his.
And now the next shard could potentially be for the Medusa or the Invoker.
Medusa would definitely love to get this shard for free. Cold-blooded.
Shooting a snake. Pretty massive one. And speaking of massive,
But Kodo needs to be very careful.
Looking for the high five, but how far can he get?
They've got Soxa here with the blood grenade.
He's trying to run all the way to Tier 2 Tower,
but if he eats someone with him, there's the blink of host up
to kill on a Kodo.
They do not get him, and the courier that was right there
to try and collect the gem ends up dying,
so they'll pick it up on Soxa.
He did not get up out of the high ground,
could not escape from these heroes on Yandex,
and they will finish off this storm.
And they will finish off the Barracks as well.
Stormspirit has no buyback for 50 seconds.
This is Medusa lineup for you.
One really bad fight.
She's holding onto the ages.
All these bosses are throwing on her.
There's the Alacrity, Solar Crest, in a couple of seconds.
DM's so willing to go in.
He's got this low disorder of his protection as well.
Wink off to the side, V-Tune.
He's going to try and fight back a little bit,
but he doesn't have to storm up for 30 more seconds.
Hannah's getting a little bit low.
The Lion trying to drain the snake
and get into the spanna all the way out of the hands of Watson.
And they'll get this Aegis, so can they do it again?
Highback from here on Amira, Sox got the kill there, they're going to try and go to the Mata Drain once more, they land the Earspreck, they've got the Lotus, but it's not going to matter.
And now the damage is pretty heavy on a watsi where he's down under half mana.
They get him the first time, stood up on the high ground with that Aegis.
Doesn't pay the second life toll, but now Aegis getting used pretty early on into having it.
And now they have a lot of protection, Jira Jr. with the BKB, Centaur does have a BKB
and it's quick buy, I mean I'm not looking at what Maladuch has in his inventory, it's
about buffing the Medusa, halfway there, Greedy, 100 GPM that he's getting, I feel like he's
always blessed by the Greedy Enchantment.
3 of the 4 supports had greedy. That was, uh, I mean, support Heaven.
I think the other option that he can go for is the Holy Locket to be able to give some mana to Medusa.
Automate chose Ana Meteor with the Sun Strike to her junior, easily killing off Kaori.
You lose the benefit with Holy Locket of giving away HP to Medusa, but still, mana is what you want to have.
And Watts is gonna have another item relatively quickly. He bought his own shard. That's how much he prioritizes it
Just to make sure that he will have mana every single time Lyon wants to use a spell on him
Watson now with the shard. He's cold-budded trying to show that he's got ice in his veins in a game like this
But
Melanich he's got the vision on WS
He's got these eyes of the forest down so they know where Tide is at
They're bringing a bunch of heroes down here to try and go after WS, and that's gonna be Soxa moving in, and they have that old lowland sun strike he's dead on the sun strike to get another kill.
These eyes are the farthest of a problem, that's why they had that jam on Aurora originally.
But now, we're still kind of have to deal with all these eyes on their end, and they have to be very careful about where they're moving around.
Busted up into a 13,000 net worth lead. Watson just gonna grab a tower down bot.
Not really much you can answer with out of the moment.
Not really. You can't kill this Medusa. They are the ones controlling the map.
Roshan may respawn in two minutes.
A lot of gold. You said both of the supports have greedy enchantments, so the items are starting to pile up.
Mera in trouble. The supports are in. The TP attempt. Oh, they've got the disruption, of course.
Tornado lands, on a Makoto. Down the meteors. They're down with the BKB.
Potho overgrowth committed after the BKB. They won't get the cataclysm, as he's able to escape.
And that is that Mantis style coming in. Watch for the storm spirit by the Gorgons.
Grasp. Aori caught again. He sure didn't even think it about coming in.
I like what DM is doing. He dominated the alpha wolf creep and is following Medusa giving her extra damage
Domesticating wolves this is how it started hundreds of years ago thousands
Let's see he's not gonna follow too far away alpha wolf will stay in this bottom lane
down to the US again and
This gush not gonna matter yule's up into the air of the gorgons grass laying down
He's tanky, but how tanky is he ball lightning? Look now at the Medusa gets out of the low ground
The meteor's gonna be touching him a little bit there with the glitney or connecting and Watson again just another kill
God like at the moment 9 0 and 6 yet to die
Yeah, eight blink daggers in the quick buy still far away from buying a one and now off to the high ground
They go two catapults another alacrity another solar press
You can see on the player cam Watson just absolutely locked in
Not looking at this line up, not this time.
And also Shadowbeat, he can create the illusions out of it, Mirroff explodes.
No buyback for him for three and a half minutes.
GA finally has the MTB, but that's one set of racks, so Top Mid set of racks is next
and then they could go bottom to try and get the mega creeps.
That dooset lift.
It has 500 damage with Alpha Wolf and the Lackardy, plus the extra attack speed coming
up from Solarcrest and Escape.
They have one more fight, they lose the fight, they can drop the Gs.
So Snoopy around Watson, just trying to, he'll take care of the alcohol with the ball lighting.
They needed to get rid of that.
He's almost over 25 on this producer too, so that's going to be a big burst of influx of intelligence potentially.
But now V2 standing with the BKB tries to go after these heroes, but the Illusion's doing so much damage!
Damage V2 has to watch out!
Sun strike!
OOOOOH V2!
Whoa!
But he's got the Shadow Word and there's no follow-up coming in from Yandex just yet!
Oh!
That was close!
Tch!
Very dangerous!
They got what they came for.
Didn't manage to kill off melee barracks, but with the next one...
MkV finally completed on V2, but as you see, he can't really deal the damage.
Also Watson has another almost 7,000 gold in the bank. He can buy the full disperser and that's gonna be even more annoying for storm
One way of the disengage for himself multiple ways
That they can buff up this Medusa create the illusions with the shadow demon
It was Daedalus instead of the disperse. Okay, just raw damage
Still we get to pick his 25 talent
Okay, never mind just picks up the intelligence of course
Brain's so big, so intelligent.
What will he pick for his next neutral?
It'll be the Giant Small with the Click End giving that evasion, that mana, and that
movement speed.
Got all of that Tree Protector still holding onto the Greenie and now so is Shadow Demon.
They both have their Greenie from tier 3.
And you can see the difference in the net worth.
Obviously that's because they're leading the game by so much as well, but a lot of that too with the greedy these supports are so farmed on Yandex
Blink solar crash shadow demon looking for positioning so is tree protector. He's got a lotus and so does the centaur
So there's a lot to protect the team
And look at this K. Or it just didn't immediately meet who might follow him BKB, but what is it worth nothing?
Dead for a hundred no Templar assassin, and I believe that's game
They have no Templar Assassin, they can just take the Mega Creeps and finish the game.
And do you even feel like it's the enemy carry? Or is it going to buy back?
They don't see what we see, that he doesn't have buyback available, but they will try to maybe get it out of the system.
For now, it is going to be Mega that they're going to be looking for.
And the finger!
Valadage low, but still alive! Survives the Ea!
Nuke, that came in from the side of Aurora, they get the Kodomira, and they'll call GG, take down the banner, Yandex, they just took the series 2-1.
Very clean. Game number one, extremely clean execution, this third one as well, not making any mistakes, and the follow-up at Düsseldorf shows, carry-to-carry match-up, not at DA's favor.
Really good game there from Yandex, really great performance from Watson. We're gonna throw it over to Rich and the rest, take it away.
Yeah, thanks for having me come. I mean, I don't think of them as the rest. I think of them as
people with personalities and entire lives. But yes, for now, let's talk about the game. I mean,
what can you say about the Andex run? It just keeps on going. We did have a bit of fun with the
way they got to the Medusa pick with the hilarious telegraph to anti-mage ban. But ultimately,
we might have found a way that you can get through these TA games. Yeah, no, I mean, it worked out
great right and however Mimi the ban is you know it gives them this Medusa which
you know Jenkins earlier was also thinking how can you beat this J? Like I had a
ruin here in the early game or maybe look for this carry matchup they got it
this time around and one of the things that was missing for me that Aurora
usually have when they have the Carrier Warlock they get to make moves early but
he had no kills like the first kill Aurora got was like minute 12 or 13 so
his golem was super delayed they didn't really get to make any moves against
Medusa and Volker and Yannick's mode full chill. Yeah this is kind of like easy for
I don't know like Medusa versus TA late game. We saw how friggin miserable it is that genuinely
It's one of the worst matchups
You're just slowly getting kind and I think the way that you would deal with that is by like
For staffing away glimmer cave solar crest that sort of thing like your team would say the or you would save yourself
But all of that is come is nullified by
Shadow demon so I don't know. I think other teams should look at this game look at the draft
Because TA obviously is going to become a big concern for teams if it hasn't already considering the win rate
And this is an answer if you have this
Particular kick order. I think it I think it does work. It looks really goofy, but it's like what are you gonna do to put the TA mids?
It's not really a can it's not really a thing now mids have to do so much more in the game
And it's also like I was looking at Aurora overall. I just think the top lane it went quite miserable for them
I don't think they're supposed to win it with Lyon type, but they got bodied quite hard
Then they went for like a mid-move. It didn't really work out. Whereas I think Yannick's got a lot of cool plays
There was even like in the highlight earlier
Saksa gets like a super clutch disruption timing during a ravage gets to tumbler's toy to like dodge himself
And like the longer this game like goes and yet Yannick's a little bit like defending the areas taking the roles
I mean Watson ends the game with
1209, but I think they're all slotting in so nicely like DM as well
you know as to stand in very clean in every single game in this entire series just being full stable
And I think Richard we are kind of questioning a little bit the
Medusa item build in terms of like damage
But a lot of it was solved through other heroes in the game. I mean we have to talk about sox. I did this guy
He's a beast like yeah, he is a monster and
What always impresses me going back to what we talked about right at the start is like
how he can manage to have an impact in so many different ways on very different
heroes in the game like he can be on aggressive guys he can be on save guys
it's insane we'll talk more about that in a moment but for now we're throwing
over to Slacks who's with Malady that's right Vicki Lu my best friend Mr.
Hostin my friend Mr. Malady welcome to the interview welcome to victory my
friend. Did it feel like you won three games in that series? Because game two, I felt like you guys
had that and then they kind of snuck in for the end. Did you feel that way? Honestly, I don't
remember even second game. It took so long, I don't even remember what happened there. I thought,
ah, it's the game where we went to the throne and we decided to jump back even though we knew that
that they have buybacks.
You seem like you're mentally reliving that in a dark way.
Like, this series has affected you in a negative way.
Are you happy?
Are you excited that you got that win?
I mean, it was hard fought.
I mean, the games go like we expected.
I mean, we were expecting this to be an easy win for us.
What else can I say?
I mean, that is a stone cold giga-chat response.
We expected to win.
We did win.
OK, well, let's talk a little bit about your homie, Mr. Watson.
Watson seemed to be popping off in this game.
Was that because of you, or was that
because of his Watson charm?
I think it was popping up, because I don't know why Aurora
gave me Trent for two games.
I don't know why, to be honest.
Now, train players, in my personal experience,
are typically on a lot of drugs.
But that's in pubs.
They're doing whatever.
You're very locked in on the Trian, you know? You're squeaky clean.
Seems like a very powerful hero. Would you say it is the most powerful support hero out there right now?
I think not. I think the most powerful hero right now is a Jakiro, not the Trient.
You do get to play Jakiro though, right?
Yeah, that's kind of ridiculous because I lost the game on Jakiro and I won two games on Trient and still I say the Jakiro is the best hero. It's better than Trient for sure.
It seems like you're just lying so that they don't ban treant and give you jikiro any uh response to that
Hmm, maybe you shouldn't reveal my strength. Okay. All right. Sorry about that. No problem. No problem
All right, I need your predictions for this one. Who do you think is going to give you the hardest battle?
Coming up in the tournament. You said that you expected to win this series. Who do you expect to give you a hard time?
To be honest, I want to play against Liquid because I want to beat the shit out of FaZe and ToFu.
Christ, you can't say that on camera. Okay, no problem. I hope you keep it in game.
I hope you get that violence down. This guy's about ready to crash out over here.
So we're going to pass it back to our panel.
That guy couldn't crash out at all. I wouldn't want to play poker against Maladar.
Dude, I'm telling you, this guy is the funniest character ever.
Ever since he did this blast interview where he called like heroic like Thailand's teammate sacks of potatoes
This guy gives the best interviews like I just want them to win to hear this guy talk
Yeah, I think the best no we'll be checking in with him over the course of the tournament. I think so
I I love I love this new meta of like being
Characters like this is a great meta of Dota player like planet also has been rocking the glasses and just like absolutely pumping out aura during the game
Being faceless void position 4.
Like this is a, we are entering into the golden era of Dota where players are just like I'm just going to do wrestling.
I'm going to do kayfabe, I'll just be a character.
Oh, time. We've been doing it for all this time.
We've got about a minute before break, so let's just talk a little bit about Yandex there.
Dreamrun continues.
Just how surprised are you as professional analysts do to do that Yandex keep winning.
So the professional analysts that we are doing this.
I would say personally I'm not that surprised. I think to go back to your point about Soxa earlier
It's not just that he can do so many things on so many different heroes
I think it doesn't matter who he lanes with that's like another skill like it doesn't matter who you slot into this guy's lane
He always has free farm and his guy always has free farm. They're just looking good. Not that surprised
I'm not surprised either because Yandex is like a S tier team
But the I guess the surprising thing is like one tournament they bomb out the next term that they win
They're just inconsistent for some reason, but extremely fun to watch all right guys
It's time for a break coming up tundra
We'll be hoping that team liquid freeze in that series. We'll see you soon
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I'm going to be taking on Team Liquid. Team Liquid, certainly among the favourites to
win the season of the Lahia. They've won them before, obviously taking on old friends in
the form of tundra, but let's just talk about what Team Liquid have been doing that's made
them successful. And I'm going to say Jenkins that they're doing it by selecting the frog.
Everyone would love to dissect right now. They are. I mean, they haven't played in a
while. So, you know, they maybe the meta will change a little bit and how they're picking.
But what I wanted to take a look at is that they have played Largo in literally every
single game in this tournament, except for one. But the difference here, the important
thing here, is that sometimes it is tofu on Largo. And the reason that I believe this
to be very important is because Liquid looked unstoppable in Dream League, the second group
stage. And then Tundra basically figured out, Nisha is carrying all of these games. We can't
ban out all of his heroes if we're waiting until the later phases of the game in order
to do it. So we are simply going to let all of the overpowered heroes through, ban Nisha's
heroes early so he can't control the game later on in the draft, and then we are going
to beat them with the overpowered heroes and be better than them at the overpowered heroes
than they are. And Liquid said, you know what? Okay, we're just going to get better at the
overpowered heroes. So if you let them through, we're going to punish you for this.
I think also like the like Largo overall with them looks quite strong, because like you
said they can flex it and I think with Nietzsche's performance right now like even if most of his heroes like get banned out
They're always like some form of like magic damage
They become like really good partners
You know with the Largo and I will say that ace when it comes to like playing the hero as a core role
He has looked like one of the better Largo said we haven't done at least so far for sure
I think he's actually conceptually
Figured out the hero where it's ended up in that off-lane role pretty well
You're going to see him, you know, disappear, go farm that eggs and then just get to work.
And also as well, it's not just the logo, we've seen them obviously Mikhail pick up the test.
That's another thing that happens, you can see in the past drafts that we've had here from those teams.
They'll play the bird, they'll play the frog.
Yeah, when I look at Tundra overall, I think like just, it's still, I think Parker had a lot, like his games were a lot better.
a lot better I think recently but what I want to say also is that liquid overall like when I look
at tundra they're a bit slower I think they need more time like all together all of them but when
you have liquid who are very speedy I definitely give them like the upper edge in this upcoming series
I do as well here's the thing tundra were looking kind of like a bit meh you know like they hadn't
quite clicked with parka but then they hung in that last series they needed to win they broke out the
the emergency inverter on BZM, then we had Parker pop off with TA and we've seen how
good a TA can be over the course of this tournament and that for me was their best
showing like finally it has all clicked.
And beyond the no illusions, Tundra can still win this tournament with Parker as a standard.
Yeah for sure.
I mean like this is exactly how they were in Dream League as well.
They just looked good.
They didn't look like they were like the dominant team that is not losing to anyone.
And then they even said in an interview, like Moon figured out something in the draft that
everything changed.
And they all of a sudden started looking at that dominant team.
They never revealed what it was.
We were theorizing that it is this like basically leaving in all of the overpowered heroes,
but they confirmed like there was some like breaking point where they figured it out.
And to me, it looks like this is still working for them.
Yeah, sure. I'll set up Kezra as well.
They are in it with a chance of winning any game
when you've got a genius like 33 making calls.
And they've got, they're in the playoffs now
because they were able to identify when the steal rose.
No, I mean, this guy is just so damn good.
Like, you know, winning TI with, like, different teams.
I know you make a new team and, like, you start a season
and you're the best again because they've gone for, like,
plays that other teams, I think they just, they can't
because you need to think about it.
like in literally in the moment and it's like this clutchness that top teams really have and especially top players like in this clip
This is game two if they lose this game they're out
It's 15 seconds for Roshan to move over to like the top side and they wait until like the last moment while being down
8000 don't mind you. You know, this is not an easy call and they commit to the Roche
They get it done this time and this is like one of the big reasons why in game two
They get a comeback and it's not like that
This was the only time that they did this in this series like
perfect second like on the 25 minute mark boom Roche dice right before it goes
to top even here this is the next game like now at 3950 and we heard it in the
listening where 33 goals yo guys we can kill Roche like really quickly let's
wait until the last 15 seconds make them feel safe that we're not roaching and
then we're going and like they abuse it like this with the Fisher like these
are the moments why top teams can win any game no matter the draft no matter the
situation because someone comes up with a play like this and they execute I
I'm honestly speechless like what is this? That's insane. What is this shit?
Yeah, I I did not see that in those games
We were watching the the tundra games, but I don't think I don't even think like I just didn't process I
Didn't hear the listen and we were watching at a restaurant actually great place fantastic place Arabic food, but I
The fact that that is on purpose
But the thing is like there's so much focus on Roshan right now
If you watch the brilliant Estini video where he talks about this
Definitely go follow his YouTube channel. Absolutely. It's like 17 minutes around that mark
Like you want to go for Rosh because then you can take the tormentor then after that
It'll respawn on the same side the top side and you can take the Roshan again
They're like on average. It's likely to respawn given the timer
It's like there's so much thought right now put into like where is Rosh going to be?
How can we play for the timings that we get not only that first roach
But Roche is in like a favorable spot for the next one or trading Roche for Tormentor or something like that
But that is something else that is some next level thinking
Yeah, Lord and we have done this time as well as while that was going on because they felt so
Their opponents have literally moved they were setting up. They were ready for the next next row
You're putting words down. You're putting up all your heroes there. You're pushing out the waves
It's like this is such an investment of resources for nothing. It's crazy
It's it's very cool to see and I would anticipate that teams like they need to look at this
They need to go have this as a thing otherwise they're gonna lose to it now my my worry is you know
The the way team liquid play in particular with this guy Mickey
They will run at you. They will group up. They will play that really impressive early style team liquid a very fast team
Mickey has got these
Three heroes he's playing where he's the best case right now
Inarguably his win ranger is so nasty. He also makes razor look like an interesting hero
You know, I'm not he is just so good right now
Yeah, there was a while where like monkey King's win rate as a carry was just awful except for Mickey
You look at 80% when I right TA as well it
He I think he's rated highly now and it's good because I think for a while
he was underrated for how much he does for this team and how much he changes the draft.
Windranger is not that good. Kez has a terrible win rate, and yet if he is on either of these heroes,
you're afraid. Look at the respect already. Windranger banned out, and very few other teams
are getting this level of respect. And it's not just even like the heroes we saw, when you go back
to Blast and Dream League, he is going to be the one guy that plays some nature's profit carry,
like randomly and it's just because they play on like tempo and like understanding it together
I think he's in like a similar boat of Skeeter like while they are very different carries
I think again they are not your typical hard carry type guys so like Jenkins is saying
you get overlooked very often because you're not you know the 20-0 morphing you're not the yatoro
you're not the satanic but it cannot be like you know talked about enough how much these players
actually do like for their team and the the largo gets banned out the you know liquid
Respecting it for both sides. We talked a lot about the liquid Largo, but you know 33
I feel like was yeah the guy that really showed like how insanely overpowered and
Honestly like uncounterable the hero feels what's been happening a lot with tundra
I think they figured out how best to use Parker
Conceptually so when they're drafting
They're putting like 33 on one of his old classics like a tide or whatever it might be they have two very active
supports and they have a four-man squad. Park is going to disappear, farm, join the
game late with a bunch of selfish items and essentially close out the game. He's
the closer in the team now. So very excited to see if that cohesion of how
they conceptualize drafts holds. It's like overall I think it just makes a lot
of sense for them also because 33 is just this type of player who he can give you a
lot of space but if he's given space in return he will always use it to like the
biggest extent where that's with his items. He's going to buy a Vanguard on Timber, then
he splits it into an Aintos to go to Gleipnir, or later he will give you back with some of
the calls that we saw with the Roche. But at least the start to this draft seems very
chill in a way. You know, Tundra, start with a Triant, you should overall be pretty happy.
A lot of the supports we talk about in all the drafts, they are still open, whether it's
your Warlock, Jokiro. I always like Phoenix a lot into Triant. I think it's a good lane
matchup. It's a good teamfight matchup. It's nice.
I think one of the things that are good about Tundra
are often things that are kind of hard to see
when we're watching the cast,
just because it's these little micro things that they do,
they give them advantages on the map.
They're so annoying for other teams to play against.
The 52-second pull of the hard camp
once you've taken the tower to pull the creep wave back,
little tricks like that that you're never going to watch,
but they just, you know, they, it kills like two or three creep waves or something like that.
And Tundra just has this way of like,
irking advantages out of a map where other teams cannot.
Because every player seems to like, amalgamate with the 33, uh, concept of how to play the game.
But I think Liquid is one of their worst matchups because Liquid will break that.
Like, for as long as I've known this team, they're really good at just like,
throwing chaos into the like regular flow of Dota by, like you're talking about
Mikkei being insanely active, like all five of their heroes will be at every
single engagement. I think what you're saying also like where you know they use
like very small things like on the map like whether it's this heart can pull,
I've seen many teams like after you lose this tower even before you need to block
this camp or like even later they play the map in a way where when they're
behind you need to like overreach to kill a core like we saw this yesterday in one
again suddenly minute 14 you're like attacking them on the wisdom 33 is like
300 range further behind than other players will be then their supports
like they TP in so it's like the way they play the map it gives them like
either a small gold advantage or just in like small comebacks because things are
like we're not killing them we need to find them then this guy is farming his
two backcams and you go too deep on them so I think it's always like very
interesting when you have some of like the best teams at least you know the
ones that play the map very well when you like really pay attention to what's
actually going on. So the TA is out as well which we did wonder whether Parker would ever get to
play TA again in this tournament. Certainly it's the one hero I think he's looked elite.
The other one is Muerta. I really like the Mars pickup for Liquid because of exactly what you're
you're mentioning, Richard, which is all of Parker's traditional heroes that he's like
stupidly good on are ranged carries.
Like this is the first time Liquid has picked Mars in the tournament.
Ace has played three heroes, Centaur, Tidehunter, and Largo, I mean mostly Largo.
But it makes so much sense, but in a matchup against Tundra, and I will say Ace, honestly
in the past, people criticized his Mars.
It didn't look very good.
He just wasn't good at playing.
I was gonna ask about this because obviously, you know, I aces the ace and toe for the new additions into the liquid
You know kind of system and you know, we saw save a light pick up Mars quite a lot
He was like a Mars sent all kind of guy and obviously he came in for a lot of criticism
I mean generally people feel aces and upgrade. How do we feel about the Mars for Mars comparison?
It aces like God to your Mars. Yeah, like I would have really leveled up. Yeah, I think the criticism before was fair, but like he
He went back to like he just grinded the hero out somewhere somehow and his Mars does look
elite.
Like he's hitting constant two man spears.
He's like jumping in spearing into arena on heroes who have like BKB or Manta or some
way of dodging it.
And he's just doing like really clutch shit and he does genuinely look up there with like
some of the best Mars is in the world.
What I like about Mars on Liquid as well, Kazoo, is that obviously we talked about tempo is
the keyword.
Mars gives you that, you know, it's the link and let's go.
just so good and I think also when you look at like Parker's like hero pool
overall I think he will lead more to like the range carries and I would say
Morris is traditionally quite good against those you know so maybe if you're
Tundra then you need to think of other heroes or at least heroes who want the
BKB like early on I think some of the best melee carries is still you know
the Ursa bear but Ursa tree is a very annoying and like not the strongest lane
especially like Morris Rasta is a very very formidable lane like it doesn't
really matter what carry you slot up with the tree and they should be fine yeah
nightmare spells and damage for days lots of damage do you think they just
tiny caudal here or is it is it too punishable to pick it pick something
against it mid you could I mean I would prefer it if you just pick your carry
just because you do see the Mars I mean I like the caudal because I think
generally when you play into Mars he does lack some damage you were right
they're just gonna go for the tiny I would just be worried about liquid like
yonking it that's true that's all but this is this is like the I suppose they
could have left like ember like on ember which maybe liquid looks to take ember
that does pretty well against tiny mid right yeah no that's a super good
matchup like you'll be very happy I think also against the supports think like
ember plus one could be very good I don't know how many flexes I mean I guess
they don't really need a flex you just go for your tofu hero I would say that
Phoenix is very good I know that it's not really a hero that tofu has dabbled
with too much. I know he has played it and I think it hasn't been as successful as the
others, but it's good against all of these heroes. It's very good with Mars. We've all
seen that combo before. So Ember Phoenix would be a super cool double pick. Otherwise, I
mean, what else does Tulfo have in his pool? So anything that stands out? Estes Band.
Warlock is out. I mean, something to like throw damage into the arena plus Shadow Shaman
Shackle would be nice. It's not a lot of these heroes from the five position.
I mean follow-up damage would be nice. I agree with that. I think, to me Phoenix is
just the one that stands out. I know he's played some more defensive heroes,
like I think he's one of the other guys that has played Dazzle along with
Malady, which is okay. You know they're also semi-low damage on Tundra, like
Kardo and Trian, they rely on playing heroes, you know, they're playing from
throw out some damage. I think he also played like a random POS5 game online.
Oh, I mean that hero throws damage into Arena and you have an arrow to follow up from the
Searing chains. Holy Saga. This is a crazy draft on both sides. Okay, all right. Wow.
Interesting stuff. We are going to see a very fascinating game. Yeah, I mean we only saw Heroic
pick people here. That is a speciality. So it is an insane game to have earthwind. Like Ruth in
this game against Ember Murana is already very good. And I think like traditionally you think
of Mipo, you want like high AoE against him, but then later you get the mega Mipo. The single target
damage on liquid right now is not that good. And there's a lot of like backup heal. You know,
you've got like living armor, you've got constant like illuminate spam from the codler as well.
I think for now this Mipo is very scary. The only thing with picks also is often
How many bands do you like realistically need and that then the heroes you leave in how can 33 cover the hero you're expecting liquid to take to then like counter the Mipo?
Because you do you need high like DPS. Yeah, I think like troll is the number one answer to me to Mipo because you have like a we
Mischance against like when they're separate and when they're together you can just
fervor killed the mega meepo it's what's the meepo has a talent right the
earthbind two strikes somewhere I'm still control matter it's crazy does but
maybe there's some small like window you can play for I think the perma route on
the mega meepo is pretty nice yeah take out the monkey king I don't think there's
many other teams you would ban this hero but you have a lot of like you know
lockdown you've got the nice damage but okay so you've got 33 who does need to
pick out a phase. I mean he's playing with, what is it, you know, Kato, so they can just
like get through the lane, be kind of chilling. Centaur is not great because there's like
a lot of lockdown, there's a Mars arena. I think Timber is a hero you could consider
banning just because it gives a bit of like a backup I think to this Mipo to also get
through the game.
I'm guessing it's really nice here if you can take heroes and maybe semi-anticipate
what Liquid wants.
And Bru is also an option if they want more like team fight devastation
I keep suggesting this but I really like Kunkka against Mars as well. I think that's a I think that's a nice one
throwing the boat into the arena
counters that whole thing I
Like that overall. I don't know if he's 33 doesn't strike me as the best. Yeah
He's not he's not that's the only thing he needs to grind a hero to play it a lot
I mean you said troll because also oftentimes you need to factor in like what liquid will take what they could show
Muerta can be I think it's overall a decent Muerta game
The only problem is that then Marana Muerta is not like a very strong lane is wind range. No, obviously that's first-phase band
Because if you're thinking overall that they're gonna take a range carry, maybe Centaur is like still okay
I don't think centaur is great against liquids heroes overall
But if you're anticipating that in order for liquid to do something they need a specific. Oh, okay, that's good
That's really good against troll and I mean the I guess the nice thing about this pick is like
No matter what comes out on 24 to counter the hype the Mipo
You are already countering them because you can just do like any heroes countered by doom as long as it's one guy
Almost any hero this is annoying like if you were looking at Kaz
I think he is getting sorry trying to get countered you talked about the troll
I don't want to see either of those heroes into a doom
Yeah, I mean I would still be okay with the more I mentioned before and also
Also overall someone that helps you take Roche later is quite good
It's a very good ages game like against doom and like this meeple guy who wants his own ages like being able to
Not just fight them but also can like contest the fact that you could maybe sneak it is good
Can's can's is a Roche guy
It's yes against me, but I feel like it can't be that good and against doom too
I feel like he's like you beat the shit out of him in lane, but that hero is so annoying
This is let's see what they can cook for us
Tundra always has these master class drafts.
Yeah, that is definitely a pivot.
We have seen BB carry in this tournament before.
And also Bristleback with Ember overall, I would say it's quite good.
They both play on poking, not really full committing.
You get a bit of minus armor.
It's a pretty good lane also with Murana.
I think it cannot be understated when you have a 5 that clicks a lot.
When you have a carry that can walk over, throw a snar, some quills and help you out.
So I think this is a very liquid style.
I don't think that's many teams that will go,
okay, we're gonna up tempo this game and pick BB Carry.
Yeah, you know, there's something that Blitz said
a while back that always like stuck with me,
that he said basically,
a lot of the times people are considering
these like one-to-one counters.
So like Doom is good against Bristol,
you can just do them and you know, you can't heal.
But it's all about, and Doty,
it's just about having a window to win the game.
And Liquid has always been very confident at,
even if the window is like five minutes,
even if it's really small,
They're so good at hitting that window hard that they do win the game there.
And to me, this just looks like really early game tempo that they're going for.
They're looking to control the map before Mipo becomes a problem,
before Doom is countering the Bristleback.
So I think it's right into exactly how they won TI,
exactly how they've always played.
And I respect it, but I do worry if the game goes late,
like none of these heroes answered Mipo, not at all.
Yeah.
I mean, I guess BB can have like some form of like high damage with his facet,
But that's I kind of about it because I agree. I think liquid need to play fast have the lead if they ever drop it
I think they're in trouble. Well again, we might be able to get some insight into the drafting because select is on the sidelines
Absolutely, hello everybody. Welcome to this interview here. We have blitz dota of dota 2 and team liquid
So good to see you you guys banned out Largo now. I thought you guys were the licky team
Why is that? Are you scared of tundra's Largo? Well, they had first pick and I'm not stupid
I'm not giving that at Largo. So, oh, okay. So not stupid. I
All right, great something up. So this is what it is. All right
How about you give me up a cool answer to this next question? They're gonna pick meepo on Parker
I mean when you see a meepo as a coach a drafter man, is that just like
Like you are one of the meepo counters and let's go. Let's go or did that not affect your decision-making at all?
I mean it does it's kind of funny like because we didn't you know, you don't really expect me
It was always like a funny hero because it's just kind of like, oh, there's a meepo and then it kind of changes like the way that the game is played, but that's just kind of life.
You just got to live with it.
Did you guys prepare for Mr. Parker?
That's a different tundra. You played tundra a lot. Parker's been popping off here.
Is this considered something that you're afraid of? What do you have to say about this character?
Yeah, Parker's a go, but the main thing we're prepared for is I think it'd be funny if they lost.
So then they could play heroic and then like we want to set up our motivation for this matchup is the parker versus heroic
Set up like more than any single thing. I want to see that happen more than like I'm okay as long as that happens
Like I whoever we play next like yandex or I don't really care
But like the park the parker heroic has to happen. Okay. I like that. That's actually got me hyped
All right last question for you obviously doom a big pick from 33 you've seen it before you guys go into that carry bristleback
We've heard the panel talking a little bit about how you don't really care about one-to-one matchups
It's more about the ebb and flow of the game
Would you say that counts in this one or are you kind of boned if it's a doom versus bristle?
No, no, I mean you we know it's doom versus bristle like we're happy to have that matchup
I think we played it last time and as long as he doesn't get the heartbeat creep
It's kind of chill although I think we're gonna give up first blood here, which is unfortunate
But that's life. I mean that you've said oh that's life like four times in the interview was everything going okay in your life
Oh, yeah.
That makes good...
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, give us some live commentary.
Okay, that's... first of all, that's not great.
Okay, well, that's the interview and that's life indeed.
We can finally understand why Blitz is no longer a caster, but is a coach.
So, let's get into the game and see how those lives are ending.
In the game number one, the first splite, of course, secured there by Tundra Lacoste.
Yeah, it was a deep sigh when I saw it happen.
Tophu tried to get out of the trouble, took the leap and then he died.
So, not really a spell you want to be having at level 1.
The good thing is you have two charges, maybe you can kill a career, so maybe something can't happen.
But looking at both of these drafts, it's a really strong Nipo pick.
Like, I think they took a bunch of prize.
And especially once they get into the mega Nipo situation,
I think Team Liquid will need to have, like, Transformation Hero of their own.
And the best thing I could think of is if Bristleback hugs Mars from behind,
and then they become, like, one unit that is gonna be, like, similar,
that is gonna be strong enough to fight against Mega Meepo.
You've got quite the Mega Mind over there.
Yeah, can't be hit from the front, can't be hit from the back.
Can't be hit.
I mean, that's okay.
Yeah, I mean, I think that might work.
What might not work though is,
not only did they get first blood on Tundra,
but they got all four bounty runs.
And I forget what the statistics are on that,
but it's usually very high chance
that you win the game when you get first blood
in all the bounties.
Yeah, also I might be the certified Marana hater,
especially from position four.
I've seen some like Southeast Asian teams
play it from time to time.
As a five, it still works.
But the thing is, you need to be able to pick up Lotuses.
It's the most important thing in the laning stage, whenever you play Marana.
They are 50% more effective.
Hmm.
Well, see how Whitemon and Parker do a bot- at the bottom lane.
And we'll see how the Mipo progresses early on.
Slain, how's it looking overall in the lane?
So is there anything that is really Aynia?
Ah.
Hello.
What are we lining up?
Which lane?
Let's say which lane has the most action.
Oh yeah.
I would say this bottom lane with Bepo.
I think this is going to be the lane with Blood Grenade, potentially with Pointing Nature's
Grasp.
You're going to be able to grab the kill and I don't think you can push out Bepo out
of this lane.
Usually Shadow Shaman and Mars.
This is a still very strong lane, especially if the lane gets pushed.
You can get the spear back into Hex, into Shackles, but they shouldn't be able to out-sustain
the damage coming up from these two.
See how that goes, and then I was kinda looking at the CS chart.
Tiny is doubling up the Mars over mid.
That is not the best.
Now starting to get a couple more CS under his belt, but it's not been the best start
on the Ember, at least to the Tiny.
Boxy taking some big hits from Waima.
talked about how Tree of Protector has that highest base damage, and he'll just kind of
walk in there and is willing to throw a couple of shots, but now you've got that level two,
you hit the spear, the net comes in, that'll keep White Bono alive. He's gone to the 0-1-1,
of course, he's got the leech seed as well as the living armor and tofu. Can't really
stand his ground on this one. Mickey though, sort of spray some quills, he'll give up
this Lotus and have to forfeit away that advantage, so that'll go to the way of Liquid
up in the top lane.
Geel from Death Lotus is 180.
So that's an insane amount of damage, you make a good initiative arm, lowering the cooldown,
with Chakra Magic.
Blinding Light is, this is actually one of the few times where you're going to be seeing
Blinding Light, so the miss chance is 45 damage and then you also have Starstruck facet on
Marana. Extra 60% coming from the other support hero. A lot of miss. Leap away 33
out of the tower. There's an infernal blade over on the mecha and if got him
quite low he needs to be careful. Just a bit. As he's sitting here with that
Lotus of course the extra effectiveness in the mango. Not really in all too much
damage if he's able to continue to just stay relatively high, but he had that south so
he's back almost to full.
Not too much mana to work with, has that healing lotus, has enchanted mango, spells are not
as costly, but also full magic wand on doom and 10 stick charges on re.
sustainable with the amount of wand charges and he's got going on and still
maybe there is that advantage for the tiny continuing and is the matchup
normally play this way or is it just excelling for tiny?
Tiny thanks to do good in this matchup. Nisha always a thought of this game. He
reached rank number one. He's been popping off in pretty much every single
liquid game and his KDA is through the roof. The two highest KDA players so far
in the tournament are Nisha and Ace. Nisha averaging 14, almost 15 KDA per game, and
Ace, second highest one, slightly below 9. So I think this tells the story how good of
a game, how good of a tournament Nisha's having.
Seriously, the big split there between the two and they're on the same team, Micae in
some trouble as Wayman came over to try and help out, making this a tri-lane for the moment.
And as 33 eats some of that damage, but Illuminate almost doing an alternate mess to get that
kill and now under the tier one tower, the chase is still on.
They want to get this.
White line will get the star storm, but will be AOK.
TP a little bit late.
I feel like they were diving this for a while.
Boxing comes in, but 33 as well as Ari are already out of the way, but right towards
Anisha.
They've got the Searing Chains and they'll have the help from the Shadow Shaman, but do they have the speed to catch up and get this lockdown?
They don't. They have the Speed Aura on Doom. Let's talk about the Harpy Creep, and now even Tiny's showing up.
Another Chakra Magic ready. It's only level one, but it's gonna reduce the cooldown, give him mana.
Yeah, they'll get this kill. BZM coming over to help out. They don't lose anything on Tundra.
Struggling for that lockdown, like you said, they've got themselves that extra speed aura.
Just at 13% but 13% is a lot when it comes down to movement speed.
33 again just trying to run as the viscous nasal goo is starting to stack away.
Well, Quill's sprayed out, Illuminate flies in, Whitemon back over and he'll go and get himself that right quick on a mech as well as the nature's grass down.
But he doesn't have the damage himself.
Marker is here with Shulker to create the rotation and he'll have that net, he'll get that kill, the Bristvax dead, the leap towards the tier one tower.
This is a lot of rotations coming in from Tundra, they once had their mid come over and now they've got their meepo coming in.
They bound Tofu once more and he's forced to leap inside the trees, the natures grass misses, but Tofu able to dodge out the gank that was coming in.
Esha has to give up on going for that shrine so it ends up being one apiece.
Nice Juke's coming up from tofu, his career did die.
And also the fact that Mipo picked up the shield rune from the bottom,
and then he rotated to the top with the poof, one did go through the twin gate.
Parker, look at this sneaky little fella, thinking about maybe going in as well,
but there's nothing there, Boxy already picked it up.
And Doom, 33, this is the second healing sal that he did bring to the top lane,
knowing the matchup, he did bring it when he got initiated on by Bristleback,
He was pretty much very close to dying, needed one or two more cold sprays.
Gets the healing salve, comes back into the fight.
Not losing any of the XP and also this windlays that he purchased plus the speed aura.
Is giving him a lot of windowvability in a fight.
He's up, up and relatively low.
So he'll get hit by a tower, but does have Remnant available.
Eight minutes in, it is top.
She configures and the hacks on the Mipo, but Mipo now on to the Shadow Shaman.
It comes in, shackles, and eventually Boxy trying to kill himself to Neutrals, but can't
get the commitment from the Neutrals to get that kill.
Parker's got himself a second on the board, and will steal the stack as well.
This is, this is, look at the interest, it's a big, big problemo for Team Liquid right
now.
Mars, once he hits level six, I think he needs to be the one to get involved.
They might need to go for some kind of a Twin Gate rotation, push the lane right now and
try to make something happen or rotate with a TP because right now they need help.
Or the lanes are pretty much getting destroyed.
This Mipo who has rotated, picked up one of the runes, stole the stack, got a kill and
got a kill in the top lane, so somebody will need to mimic that.
And Asus, think about going through the Twin Gates, but they are not showing in the lanes.
The lanes are pushed in, especially the top one and also 33 showing up to the mid lane.
Having that doom available thinking about maybe they're gonna be able to get the kill
Parker throws the net on the Mars. Here comes the triant another net for his troubles in the bottom lane
He's they'll try to run God's rebuke and has spear available, but this is a problem and
The problem is solved by just running under the tier one tower. He's being very patient. They try to grab a kill, but
I'm gonna steal some of the stacks. I thought that they wanted to force the arena
Put it on cooldown 33. There's four members of Liquid, M'K. After them
stealing their stacks in the triangle, think about going in and maybe get some
stacks going in there, try to steal it.
Meepo's moved over to the jungle on one of them. They just continued to farm. He'll
stay here towards bottom. I'm kind of watching Parker to see how much he's
willing to rotate as they had four heroes there from Liquid. Thought maybe they'd
come over now. BZM, he's the one who's caught for a second. They eliminate hits and
Ace is almost dead! Arrow gonna be off the mark, but the shackles are a little bit late to hold into the arrow.
And now BZM is able to get some space.
Doom, Avalanche, and then the kill onto Anisha, but Tofu, he follows into the grave, and BZM's got two.
Herdy-three's gonna get the kill there on the box. He spear hits onto BZM, but it doesn't do enough.
And Ace...
I think he's going in.
Can you go into the tower?
That would have been insane.
That was close. He was thinking about it, but the Ace was running out.
He manages to survive that's gonna be probably another tower arena has been used and they haven't managed to get a kill a lot of it
Meepo
Diffusal Blade is coming on
Courier just gonna throw it out there fastest diffusal blade on Meepo this tournament
Sheesh, probably we'll see
We only seen one meepo game
And that was you Michael played it
something that blitz talk about is that they want to see heroic play against
parker and this might be the battle of me positive we should have a mode and
build up that allows these two to pick me put to see like just double it down
who's the better me was the better me pose well and who's the better team who
was right who was wrong and you may think it's Parker or you may think it's
It's Yuma, but it would be a good battle, a mega battle.
This early advantage for Tundra is a little worrisome, liquid struggling, and you know
who's got a lot of gold right now, is this Kahnel.
Almost as much net worth as the Ember.
Barker's career is following him from the bottom lane, then he deep-eat, and now the
career is coming, so he might not be the fastest, defuse the blade.
How long has this story been holding us?
It's been almost like a full minute.
Nisha.
Remnants in.
Thought maybe White Mom might get the catch, has the help from R&B, ZM.
Look at Kato, and he's almost got this holy lock in.
They find themselves both tofu as well as Boxy, and they're in trouble.
Tossed up, and that will be a kill for the Tiny again, now dominating.
Sipping on some of those extra sips thanks to the bounty room that he picked up and they've got the blink dagger now for the tiny ready to go up.
Okay, so it's exciting.
Thanks to the courier.
12 more 9.
And because the courier had to chase him all over the place, it's now slower than average.
They wish they had extra courier speed from Marcy maybe in the game, but still very good timing.
And also I love the atomization from both of the supports.
to the supports. A lot of the time, having Doom from the off lane, having two supports
that don't really have much lockdown, can be a disaster, but having Tiny from the mid
lane and that's Tiny that can't play with Chakra magic means that you have lockdown
on very low cooldown. Dossback, and with that, the wave is going up, and now they're going
to kill on Ace. Parker really starting to get out of control. And to go back to optimization,
There is Holy Locket on Keeper of the Light, so there's going to be Illuminate Heal coming out, plus the Holy Locket, plus the Living Arbor.
It's going to be a bit too much, like they were struggling to deal the damage, and now you're going to be fighting into Mega Mipo as well in the next couple of minutes.
BCM, ready to play. Aw, what a tossback into Hedda.
That's perfect. Right into the rest of the team, they get the kill to Mikkei, and now they've got the overgrowth to get the kill to Boxy, and they've locked down each for a second.
Remnant forward, he is really trying to focus on a white line to get this kill.
God's repute. Can they finally finish off the Trian protector? Yes, they came with a spear.
But problems, Frenesha, problems for this Mars as they're trying to use the Mewmulite Shadow to survive.
But here comes the Sentry and Ace now needs to run, but he's been sore about so he's slowed up the right autumn.
They've got the Blinding Light, they'll get the kill for BZM, and he's on a mega kill streak three heroes die on the side of Liquid.
Mario shows up, he gives him chakra magic, he comes in with the sentry, at all the tools necessary.
Liquid finally gets a kill on the board, not enough mana for a toss back immediately, so he will leap away.
While all this is happening, Nipo farming in the bottom lane, again this is going to be 15 minutes.
Diffusal, plus the agatum scepter, Nisha steals, trying to make something happen on this side of the map, steals the XP rune.
ends up finally getting a steal but it ends up being even anyway because Parker
took the other one and this is an accelerated Parker getting this shrine
and he's level 12 and it has eggs in like a minute well if the courier can
get to him, of course.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
Well, TP not going to be there for Nisha.
He's thinking about the remnant, waiting for him.
And then just continuing to commit onto Nisha.
And finally, he goes to the remnant.
But BZM is there waiting.
And they will get this Ember.
So they waited and waited and waited.
Doom even kind of backed off to hold him there
so he doesn't remnant because he baited that play.
Yes, and he moved.
And then made it for BZM.
BZM to show up.
Find the right angle.
Now Hand of Minus Online. This is such a scary, scary looking draft from Tundra.
Perfectly executed, BZM.
As for Agent Rune in Bottle and Whitemon, he's the one who's providing vision.
Arena committed.
Spear comes through, Arrow connects, Serpent Ward's around, but the Illuminate not even needed.
And that is gonna be a kill on a Ace in Boxie.
A double kill for Parker.
That's Mars trying to deal with the pressure of Mipo by buying a shard, allowing him to
spear multiple Mipos, and they still just don't have the follow-up.
Not the traditional Mars build by any means, but he definitely wanted to adapt the land
like you.
You kind of have to think differently with the itemization.
You can see Liquid as well.
His first item is going to be Lotus Orb to remove a lot of these negative things on him.
Maybe try to reflect Doom, remove the Earth Pine, Overgrowth.
Because you still deal good amount of damage.
Like your first item on the Ristleback isn't really that impactful,
so you can decide to go for something like this, which I think is a correct choice.
Oh no, his Courier died. That's the Lotus Orb.
Oh dear.
So now you have only the components of the item for the next few minutes.
minutes. That didn't connect. On Avalanche onto two and then the toss back towards Parker.
He's the Mega Mipo. No damage. Parker, he doesn't think that they have the damage to
kill him especially within the Mega Mipo. Get the kill on Ace. Overcreated overgrowth.
Now, the follow-up, he's gonna be there, 33, gets into this little peninsula here, and they've got the doom on Tanisha.
They'll get the kill onto the Shadow Shaman, they'll find themselves the Bristol who doesn't have the Lotus,
and the chase is on to go and get Mikkei, that's gonna be a fourth. He's dead after this toss, and BGM has a double kill.
He's gone like...and they are just ahead by so much, 20-1. He's gonna look for the spear kill, but the net, the arena, the spear, and he got Parker!
There's value!
That's a lot of gold, 600 gold for Ace, and that's gonna be his blink dagger for the next fight, so overextended there a little bit.
But still, BZM is also menace, involved in 16 out of 20 kills, playing with Keeper of the Light.
These items are starting to pile up all the locket, and I also see Tree and Protector trying to build into Guardian Greaves slash Mech first.
Just to have that extra bit of sustain, so everybody's itemizing for Mipo.
Yeah, itemize for Mipo, but at a certain point it's going to be everybody else too.
Mipo's farming fast, but so are the other two cores.
BGM's gigafarms.
This has to be like the first time I'm seeing second item on Tiny being Lotus Orb.
He's got that and he's going octurine after him.
Well, it's picked up in one match, but as a second item, usually you don't see this.
I really like the Sheva's build.
I think this is a good Lotus pick up because you are playing against Ember Spirit,
against Shadow Shaman, and removes stuff from Bristleback.
But, Sheva's Guard is such a valuable item on Tiny from the mid lane.
It amplifies all your damage, provides vision for the tossback as well.
There's that Lotus orb finally picked up by Mikay.
They've got the glyph, they'll use it, Nisha.
He's in smoke, trying to find Ari.
Only one level ahead of this keeper of the light, the only one that was come out by the
right and into the other side, now they've got the Spear... okay.
They got the kill anyway, but a little odd that that doesn't connect to the wall that
he got pushed through.
After the glyph, they'll pick up that tier one tower, but while that's all going on,
Parker's now got an Aegis.
The second life is, one life has been hard enough to get away from the Meepo.
I think they got fortunate that they were able to get the Mars back in and he was able to TP him.
Parker, who was sitting low while he was coming through.
But, not sure you'll have opportunities like that again.
They don't have the clear counter to this Mipo.
In a way, like their damage also isn't explosive.
It's a bit of a damage over time, coming up from Ember.
Mars needs to use the arena.
Doom, Bristle, Lotus not in time to reflect the Doom and that is going to be another kill
here for Tundra.
Good spear on the 2, putting on another tower.
They hit the hex, BGMs in some trouble, but he's got a Lotus of his own.
Overgrowth from a distance.
Winston's in, that's gonna be a catch on Tanisha, beyond Godlight for BZM.
Bottle comes in, gets the Holy Lock in, ended up in trouble, surrounded by all these heroes on the side of Tundra.
Not enough damage to kill off the Tiny or anybody in the vicinity, and that will be a third dead on Liquid.
It is all three cores gone.
What a beauty.
These are the type of lineups that usually we don't see in action, but still showing that you can play different heroes.
strategy that they showed in this game, oh god how much damage is that on the tofu and
BZM manages to survive. Trinket predictor on the edge of the arena gets the overgrowth
to multiple people.
Do they have more? Avalanche, hex blink and tiny, just too strong. That fight also happening
Soon after the Aegis, you've got it for another three minutes.
He's gonna grab him some Tormentor Objective Gaming here for Tundra that just doesn't feel like it's gonna be stopped.
What's the game plan for Liquid? You're down 20,000 at 20 minutes!
It's getting around that... that number that you like, a thousand per minute?
Yeah, it's kinda over.
Immediately, I don't think we are seeing many comebacks once it's at 1k per minute.
BKB also coming off cooldown, and nice sidestep.
Drums, extra windlace, phase boots.
I wasn't to go for that maneuver, BCM still gets to die in this game.
11-0-9.
Completely dominating, they're going to group up, they've got the smoke, they'll go again.
Why not?
Not really much stopping them, not much scaring them either.
You would think that this is just a Mipo going off, but it's all three cores.
Avalanche toss, they came back to 33, has the Lotus,
so that'll stop the Duke from coming out immediately.
Now they land on Spirit's top of the Meepo first,
second they go to the arena,
but they've got this little light shadow.
They have no damage to follow it off.
These heroes just aren't getting low enough.
BZM, he's the only one who's semi-low,
but Parker moves in for more Tofu.
He's under the tier two tower,
but it's not gonna matter.
Both supports down on the side of Liquid.
Disha and Ace survive,
but they just do not have the damage
and do not have the tools to fight back against Tundra.
It is too much sustained,
Like, all this BKB pickup on Doom, they have no abilities that go through debuff immunity, so if they don't lock him down from 100 to 0, he's gonna get his spells off no matter what, fighting into Aegis, that's a full disperser as well, extra bit of a movement speed, the chase is definitely there, and the heals, you have, Keeper of the Light, with Illuminate, from the Spirit form, hold the lock in as well, and once that mech comes through, it's just gonna be too much sustained, liquid damage is very limited at the moment.
It's very limited, it's not getting better either.
Avalanche, now they've got the vision.
A spear again, but what's it worth?
He could land a bullseye with that thing, you're still not going to have the follow-up to get the kill,
and BZM continue with the Pygion, God-like streak.
As Tiny, just with all the space that was made for him on the side lanes,
And the fact that his matchup went so well, he has been able to put the hurting on Liquid.
He has been red hot this game and he has vaporized Liquid.
Insane, how good of a game he's having.
Keeper of the Light definitely helped, using Chakra magic and bazillion times on him,
but BZM.
Ready to jump in, again, straight, boy, from the bottom, to the top lane.
Whoever shows up is gonna get initiated on
You can't really show they're gonna smoke they're gonna try and
fight
And maybe they could get somebody if they're away from the pack
But grouped up it just does not seem like it's gonna happen. He just does expire
They might catch a meepo alone. They've got these heroes coming over to try and help and he's trying to get meepo's there
By that is a meepo out
He's able to leave.
Picks up that blink dagger, has even more mobility, avoids that gank.
That's just the perfect game for Parker.
Swinging from lane to lane they could call Peter Parker.
Yeah, considering how he's using those nets.
Yeah, those nets, I mean avoiding the ganks, his spidey sense is all over the place.
He knows how to get out of harm's way.
It's been good so far for the Meepo, but uh...
Everybody else here for Tundra, making this just such a cold environment for Liquid, that they're almost freezing over.
They don't have to take it too fast, they know that they have this advantage.
They could wait for Roche, which is minimum two minutes away.
They could use that time to work on these next big items, they just got the Oughtering Core from the Tiny,
And it's going to be a refresher, potentially, in a few minutes.
It's very far from being completed, but for the Doom.
This has to be also two fastest Octareans in one team.
Like, usually you don't see these two items from two different cores.
Tiny, now even lower cooldown on his abilities, and you also have Doom, lower cooldown.
So they just want to be as tanky as possible and be able to take the fight again if necessary.
It feels fine!
I don't know what everyone's worried about!
Liquid.
You can see where they've been on the map for the last few minutes. It's been right by their own steps.
They haven't had an outlet.
They're trying to plug into some farm and they just can't. And it's been so tough for them.
Which means...
Even though you're not dying in these few minutes...
So much of the map is just being farmed where tundra extend this lead and they just work on their items. It's such a bigger clip
I'm really impressed by the fact that doom is on top of the network. There is tiny who is 13 0 and 10
Pretty much farming the whole map and then you also have nipo who can do the same thing
But still 33 doom is on top of the network
Yeah, finding all places in the map to farm equally.
No 5-man smoke, might catch themselves all the liquid.
Good game.
The Q-Wiz, I thought he would spot it for a second, and I will land you on a 2, but not
following it up until Parker comes in, spear on the 2 Mipos, they've got the different
wards around him as well as the arrow, they've got the depth coming in, but they don't have
themselves an Aegis not going to matter, he goes into the mega Mipo form and all that
Man, after all, that light comes back.
So they get the kill onto the Shadow Shaman.
They look over at Nisha.
He'll die too.
Mi'kei with the Moonlight Shadow won't matter.
Lotus with the Infernal Blade keeps him still.
They'll toss him back.
Get up to the tier three tower and we'll escape for now.
But the jumping from Ace, the Spear,
it's out of the tier three, but the four staff back out
of the low ground.
BZM still five.
Parker goes in for more.
They get the kill on Ace.
They'll take out a third, they look for Toe for the net lands.
Casting that net far and wide, getting the catches here on all these heroes on the liquid.
And that is four kills for Tundra in that fight.
They almost got Parker, but once he gets the Mega Mipo off, there's almost no chance.
It's too much to stain all these items, all these heals that are coming out, Mech now being delivered.
He's delivered, museum, like, his cooldowns are insane.
This is 10 second cooldown on Avalanche, and 8 second cooldown on Toss, and then you get
shot from magic, reduces it by 6 seconds, so you can't keep spamming that out.
And also something to point out is that Ari is overtaking Nisha, and he's about to overtake
Ace as well, with the network.
I'm like speechless.
Which is bad, because my job is to talk, but this is a coddle who is so damn farmed.
It's a little bit of a mixture of coddle being very farmed, and of course, Ace and Nisha
not being so farmed, of course.
That's also why you're not an analyst?
Because I don't know how to say things smart.
I'm just kidding.
He play by play me stupid.
One guy big number, he better.
Big number better.
Yes.
That is how I analyze Doom.
Damn.
I'll analyze this one.
He got doomed.
He died.
Yeah, not much to say about this one.
As well, and BZM with Nunder.
Toss.
There's gonna be another toss.
Protecting the Meepo.
He'll be a little bit of a long arrow duration, but BCM, he'll wait it out, and then go after
Mickey, and that will be Parker with another kill.
He's now dominating.
And, uh, yeah, 34-3, big number better.
Four minutes left on this Aegis, and answers, I can't really chase Chasing Liquid.
I think Parker's gonna find him in the bottom lane.
Here they come. The Mipos show up and the Mipos attack. They try to go for ace.
Little bull walk, but will it bull work? It's not a bad play. It did. He was able to get
out. Now the Shadow Shaman. He's in trouble. Boxing God. God like for 33. Infernal Blade
on Anisha my shadow again and have lunch can they turn this at all spear
connects that's out of the tree as well as the doom they'll end the arrow to
follow it up can they go to the tree protector yes no the overgrowth oh no
liquid thought maybe they had something anything but they can't chop down this
tree he's gonna die at the spirit vessel Nisha also actually went in doom is
He went in and committed to this one, but that puts him in a position where he gets netted coming back.
Jules up in the air again, thanks to the toss.
And R.E. actually gets the credit for the kill. They lose that Aegis to work on the tier 3. The Serpent Wards were committed on that.
Ace again just trying to pull her, but BKB, there's the doom coming in from 33.
The toss back out of the Marana. You can't leap away. They eliminate lands, kills off Ace. Gigi is called Tundra.
39, they get 40 to 4, 43,000 net worth lead, 31 minutes in, and they get game number one.
Oh man, what a beatdown in this first game. What a perfectly executed draft and strategy coming up from Tundra.
This Mipo, and look at VZE and R.E. the duo that was a menace.
Four team liquid, these Chakra Magicka and Tiny, to a lot of a cool down, just constantly spamming it.
Yeah, they just continue to jump on it and Tundra take game number one,
And, uh, well, we'll send it to Rich in the Rats.
Well, yo, Pete, thanks, thanks, man.
Still, dude.
Totally threw me off what I was going to say.
I'll do it anyway.
Pretender wasn't just an insult there between co-workers.
HR, please.
But Team Liquid may have been on the server,
but it was Tundra that were in the flow state, guys.
Ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho.
You're banging today.
That's good.
That's good.
I mean, this was...
I mean, I feel like Lacoste's done it pretty well at the end.
This was a straight-up beatdown, I guess.
I think we have seen it a few times now where Gavis get to the twenty minute mark and one team has like one or two kills.
Even if we are looking here in this highlight,
Boxing is level 4 and no one is really doing much yet from Licker because they can't really.
I think Park had a really good performance, especially early on.
Like on the Mipo, he went to like the water room, he was top, he was mid again, same for 33.
Like Tundra, I maybe on the rest minute I draft a little bit, I liked it, but I didn't expect like a 90 to 10 game.
Yeah, I'm trying to channel my inner Suns fan here, and of course as an honorary member...
Yeah, as an honorary member...
Are you talking about a microphone?
No, I think as an honorary member of the Shalaking council of course, Suns fan in me.
I'm trying to think what level of Shalaking this was, because this was high tier.
It's been a very long time since a Gaben's Umbrella level shlaking has been awarded to a team.
But considering this is Team Liquid, the tundra just beat down to this degree,
like the game should have been over. Liquid just wasn't calling GG. 10k gold lead of 15 minutes
is like unfathomably impossible to win against, especially when there's a freaking
Neepo on the enemy team like there is no coming back from that man
I did like the overall like the tree and with the coddle you call the tiny pig
They played it many times with the coddle before yeah, but like all this back up like with the 80 Neepo pig like going in and I think I mean
I think all of them played pretty much phenomenal like here BZM
He's godlike at 70 minutes the score is 20 to 1 like and every time they go in to take these fights
Ari is there to heal everyone up and liquid
I mean they obviously had a plan with the bristleback where you can play through him
You have like early tempo, but they didn't even win the lane then Parker goes there
This was this is a full-on stop at Richard 404 game not found because it was such a stomp
It basically didn't even happen. I mean, I think liquid wants to write this one off and just say, okay
Let's go next. We got Mipo. We got completely destroyed
honestly
Parker
You forget that he can play Mipo because he's always playing the range carried. Yeah
Yeah, it's like Parker has his specialty heroes, but this is something that he would always pull out
I think there was one era where he was you know playing on some what's up which team is it?
So whatever before heroic or something before her own maybe it was her okay
Actually, he made it's like paying game. You know like some her role
I don't know like which like essay or that basically he would pull out the Mipo
It's like well Parker can play Mipo then since then it's been kind of a staple for him
But it's been a long time since we've seen it and it's just tundra reminding
you have to ban this hero. We are officially a Meepo team, but there's already so much you have to ban versus Tundra. I have enjoyed so much watching Tundra draft in the previous two tournaments.
I was just going to say, I think the real star of the show, because honestly, you could have picked BZM, you could have picked 33, you could have picked Parker. The real star of the show is the draft, because...
Moon manned her yeah, yeah to have the doom and by the way 33 doom is obviously a meme
But they're just super value because you need an individual that can manfight and counter the meepo
But then you gonna shut that guy down. Yeah, exactly. It's it's it's very brilliant
It's it's very like I think it also goes to lengths like when you have
Captain like 33 who sticks with a coach for like a very long time like with moon
It obviously like it says a lot like the guy has his ideas
You know you were also saying you guys talked and they were like saying yeah moon figured this stuff out like
During dream league with the draft because this time around I feel like liquid didn't really I mean it was quite evident
They didn't have much of a chance. I think in the next game
Blitz in the interview before the game. He's like no we're prepared for you would not prepare
I mean you definitely want to like give up the vibe like that you are yeah, I know you can tell that this didn't work
But I think the Mars you might want to scrap it
I could also see boxy put him on one of his mealy bros like the Marcy the toss the clock the earth's bird go around
You know give them like a slap back in the game because there was nothing
thing. I think they got owned in the draft. It just is what it is. It happens. They got
me poed. I do think Liquid is like one team that this can happen to and the next game
they will completely obliterate. We saw this on day one from Liquid. I think they dropped
the game there too. It's just common practice for them. This will never happen. This still
should be a hopefully close series. It's just game point. It will be. It will be. It will
be. We can check in as well what was just happening over the course of this game. This
a few interesting things. She wanted to talk about this 20 minutes. This is where BGM is.
Yeah, this was cool. Going for the Lotus Orb on Tiny. It's not a super, I mean,
I, you don't see it. It's not common at all. Tiny doesn't exist. But the armor is very effective
against like the, all of the physical damage coming out from Liquid. The way that they would need
to come back into the game is by like chain stunning somebody with Shadow Shaman or using
Searing chains into arrow like basically that's it and probably both of those things combined and both of the things that I just listed
That are the wind conditions are nullified by a load of sorb, so he just says okay. I'm getting it on the mid-tiny
I'm not to carry this game. We have Parker Mipo. All we need to do is like make sure nobody dies
Nobody feeds because we have a load of sorb and then Parker Mipo goes ham
Yeah, like I think it's super cool because it's again like you'll see that when BZM is playing this game
He's playing the situation at hand. He's understanding. Okay
It's the change that can make this play happen once he buys Lotus orb
The only play is Mars arena into like big spells
So you take out like all the casual stuff they have of like ember running around. This is the only thing they can do
It's so good. All right guys. Thanks so much. We're going to a break when we come back
We'll see if liquid can turn the tide or whether they're gonna swirl down the plug hole. We'll see you in a moment
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Okay, guys, here with Snape, we're going to be ranking the
Best people in your position at the tournament here starting with five being the worst one up being the best you are allowed to
Choose yourself by the way. So who would you put his five?
I'll put ex Nova. Oh
Ex Nova really interesting. Is that a just because he's been around forever or you've had history or you genuinely think?
Fifth best here. I think he's playing pretty well
I don't think he makes that many mistakes in general in the and he's a very stable position five
Okay, do you ever copy anything from him?
Yeah, I think he's a very stable mid-game player. He follows his cores around.
I'm watching this like replace how he like wards that protects his carries.
Okay, very good. Alright, how about number four?
Number four, I would say, um, Malady.
Oh, I think it's similar to X-Nob, but I think it's just better.
I think Malady has a signature like Warlock J'Kyro, and he like,
it's good for this meta, it protects the carries well, and he wins his lane.
So like what more can you ask for from position five? Absolutely. And if we're talking about warlock, I have another idea
But who do you think is three?
three I think in this tournament is probably
Chiroi I think Chiroi obviously they did very well in the last tournament and he's he's he's been in quite form
I think his signature heroes like Phoenix
Warlock, yeah, obviously are very meta and he's very good on those tears
Yeah, less and longer than the team he was with in fact, so there you go. Alright number two second best
I would say white man. I think white man has
has has always been like a
Hop to your support and I think at this event even with the Santa situation. He's like he's making Park your shine
He's doing his best. Yeah. All right fantastic a hard job indeed number one the best one here
This is tough. You can't say yourself. That's okay. I would say it's tofu. I think like liquid liquid has
In the beginning, I think I had a little bit of a rough patch, like finding how to fit everyone on the roster,
but I think once they've taken some time, they're gelling really well.
I think Ace and Topfura finding really good footing in Liquid.
Yep, absolutely. Although, why don't they let them lane together? What's up with that?
I guess Boxy just wants position 4, so if they only have position 5, then I'll play an open, I suppose.
Reedy, greedy. What can you do? Thank you so much, Snake.
Good review! I agree with everything, almost.
So Team Liquid are formidable opponents on a good day but Tundra had ice in their veins
and took game one.
We don't expect this to be a 2-0 though because we know Team Liquid, if anyone can, first
of all mentally cast off the fact you've been stomped and to construct a draft where they're able
to beat anyone in the world. Teamwork who can do both of those things. I mean the next game will
definitely be very different. I mean I think there's a world where this can be a 2-0 but in the last
game like Nisha was lower in net worth I think than Ari at like minute 24 and that's like the mid
compared to the position four and it's not a random mid player talking about. Like I'm talking about
Nisha. He literally just hit number one in the world. Yeah he's like the number one mid player
right now when people like you know think of him so there's a lot that went
wrong in that game and you know the man on the screen right now I think while
his Mars is good and you did praise it for the right reason before the game I
think perhaps in this matchup you know you want to look for something
different give him a later pig or give him you know his usual aura boys are
like a later priority because they definitely made use of this Mars pig on
Thundra. Yeah it's funny because I feel like the Mars was in answer to Parker's
hero pool and then Parker pulls out the Mipo which is like the biggest problem.
Yeah, they go read like a book. Yeah, so there was I
Don't even want to say it's like it's not like liquid had bad prep
I actually thought I was quite genius that they did this
It's just that tundra thought a step ahead of them
And this has been this story of what tundra has been doing to liquid for the past little while it's like
Reading them like a book in the draft and now playing them and I want to remind everyone
You know tundra limped into the playoffs. Yeah, it was a two-one
you know, emergency crisis in Volcker that had to be deployed to get them through a series to be in the playoffs.
They were three and two, Liquid were three, you know, and now Tundra are on the brink of knocking Liquid into the lower bracket.
I do want to say there's like something, I mean, people talk about 33 a lot, but especially when this guy plays against like former teammates,
which is, it's quite, there's quite a few of them, and they're always some of the best teams because he was there with them.
I think this guy just has like some type of aura, you know, not just with like the heroes he plays, the calls he makes, like
He just wins those games, like sometimes they're really hard to win, and then he can also storm games like this
So he just seems to impress me even when you're already holding him to like some of the highest degree possible
To me it seems like somebody on Tundra
Maybe Moon, maybe 33, he said,
Nisha is really good. He is maybe the best player right now
Let's just shut him down. Let's just do everything we can in the draft
Grief the rest of the draft give ace whatever he wants give Mickey whatever he wants and just give Nisha a bad time
and he will not carry liquid because
It felt like they were waiting for Ember to come out
So they could respond with me, though
And I feel like the Mars like Mipo being good against Mars and Mars being good against the other heroes of
of, uh, the, our Parker serial pool, that might have just been like convenient and
coincidental that that's possible.
It's still like, it's really good.
And if it wasn't coincidental, that's like genius on so many levels, but even
just the idea that like, okay, Nisha is going to get ember.
He's carried so many games of ember, but we've a Nipo player and Nipo destroys ember.
We're just going to shoehorn this into a draft somehow, you know, with the doom.
And there's still levels of like genius there.
Yeah.
Oh, absolutely.
I do wonder, like when it comes to the gameplay at least a little bit, like what I think Tundra, I mean as we could also see, they had a very good draft against, you know, what Liquid had in game 1.
But there was, I would say the gameplay from like minute 5 to 15 was quite lackluster from Liquid.
I'm sure if they, you know, replayed this game that there are more moves that they could look for, you know, like maybe Nisha can go to the save play and like they get a kill together with the Marana.
Or maybe it's all about, you know, Tundra had all these good early moves that Nisha couldn't really go anywhere.
anywhere because usually when this guy plays Ember he has a good lane which he did in this first
game but he didn't really have any moves and I can't like fully tell is it really only because
of what Tundra did and like was it this hard to find this move or was it overall just liquid also
you know not finding the moves being at the wrong place wrong time not going for the correct smoke
so I do hope that they that their only adjustment isn't just draft but also that they talked a bit
about okay you know this felt hard I would like to change this up like oh well just to just feel
feel better going into the second game.
Yeah, that's true.
And I mean, I guess some of that does go back to the draft
in the sense that like if they can get heroes
that they're just comfortable like making their own moves on,
you know, like they're the ones that are dictating
the pace of the game that sometimes helps
because I do feel like it's like what Blitz said
in the interview, when there's a Mipo,
the game just changes.
Now you have to deal with this Mipo
and it's not necessarily what you want to do in general.
It's like you had this game plan of how you like to play the game and now all of a sudden you have the mepo game plan
And you can't really do that one with as much confidence especially when you've lost so many games lately against this team
And something that like it just kind of took my like attention liquid used nearly
One minute of reserve time on their very first pick of the entire draft
Yeah, I don't know if that's happened this tournament
I'm gonna say no because usually you understand like what you want early on
I don't think any of the tundra bands were like crazy by any means
They are very normal literally that the four like best heroes. Yeah, so I think it just goes to show you that liquid
They understand that there is like this, you know glooming
Like just this feeling for tundra where you're like if we pick this they probably have this answer if we do this
We have this so it was maybe not that easy for them to come to a conclusion
But I think the tiny first big is good because it can be flexed and it also means tundra can't have it
It's such whiplash from tundra a little bit where like
Like they banned the four overpowered heroes, at least the four overpowered heroes for like
the first week of this tournament.
When in Dream League they kind of did the opposite of this, they let everything through.
To be fair, I think a lot of the time they were first pick when they did that, so they
would get a trade and they would play the trade better.
But it's interesting to me to see that like, okay, if we can only get one of them, like
we still think we being Tundra, that these are the three, like, or four big overpowered
heroes.
I do really like Shaman in general, but I think the stock in this hero is rising fairly
significantly. Yeah, rightfully so. Like this hero, it just looks so good and it can be flexed. I mean,
most often it is just played as the four. And I think so there's a lot of these support calls that
are insanely good. Like we've seen Rasta Warlock in some games where if you have a good early game,
you goal them like the early towers and it's like minute 13, 14, you have Golem and wards,
you take it to your two, you take Roche. And just these heroes, they do a lot. So like the Warlock
and the Phoenixes for the next phase wouldn't be surprised if we see it come out. I think also
there's a lot of like hyper damage carries, you know, like there's Muerta, there's TA, there's
Kez, heroes that will just straight up full to zero somebody if if they're locked down and like
the more damage there is in a meta, the more valuable just hard lockdown is and then on top of
that, like you said, he takes rose, he takes objectives, pretty good at laning, like it really
feels like shaman does it all currently. He's also a shot call as dream, you know, because it's like
Go on this guy.
Yeah, well, not just that, but also, like, you get to extend actions that you've done
if you've got spells available.
You can go gank somebody, get that kill, but then you can drop the wards, walk away.
Yeah.
You know, he's just so powerful in that sense that you can always transition whatever you
did previously into something else.
Yeah, whenever I did coaching, I would always tell, like, legend MMR players like, pick
shaman because the hero can literally do everything on the map if you truly learn that from one of those coaches if you truly believe that
you're like one of the best players in the game then the way you can show it is by be shaman and do everything then and you'll carry the game
and we've also like seen them like even if you don't have active plays you know they're very good at like cutting the way
stropping your watch for a tier one or like skipping some ways to get to the timing that you do want I would say like if I just
look at the bands of Liquid, there's a fairly high chance that this Tiny is going mid because
they banned out Ember, I think otherwise you probably wouldn't really do it because you
have 18 pick yourself, you can be pretty happy. And maybe the Ursa pick, like the Ursa ban
rather, it does help the Tiny. But I think it's also, you need it to kind of decide,
do you ban Warlock, do you ban Ursa? And I've seen this ConWallock, this Warlock Ursa,
it seems unanswerable, like I've seen people try every type of Offlaner, it doesn't matter,
at least now you know you're giving in quotes only the Warlock.
Yeah, you would need to like purge the healer some shit like I genuinely don't understand what you would pick against it because I haven't seen an answer yet
Ursa's only problem is being harassed out of lane and you just can't do that against warlock and just to rewind the segment
Remember we started showcasing this matchup by showing you a clip where tundra had shaman
They had warlock and they went and took a crucial Roshan in a game
They were buying 8k gold and that was the start of their comeback for them because you've got two supports
That can just go to the pit and get it done
I mean, I personally at least like this a lot like boxy to me while he can play whatever
I love this guy when he plays mealy post-force where he can make stuff happen
Also, you give up the warlock sure tundra, you know, they're gonna make use of it
But he's not good at counter-playing so boxy he can go around ace is gonna have a later pick where he can be alone
He can be some tight hunter on the Lord centaur whatever it is to buy or is and boxy can actually play on the safe lane
Like tundra. They are overall they want to play a slow game have your dual lanes get your farm stack farm backwards and like chill
whereas boxing now in this game as opposed to last game, I think there's way like more options to actually break the game into like a bit of chaos.
Now Tundra is in a bit of a different situation to the last one, where Kanisha's pick is not revealed, they don't really have a counter pick for it.
So they're just picking like generically good stuff. Like this is a very vanilla draft, I would say, for Tundra, but very well rounded, like crazy team fight, really good damage,
good scaling, you've warlocked this gyro lane, that's an incredible lane against pretty much anything
because you're just going to fatal bonds and like push the creep wave out.
It's a great one.
I'm always thinking of like against something like this.
There's a lot of good parkour heroes. That's liquid of course, okay. Parker will be gyro.
Park is a gyro.
So for Mickey, like I mean same thing, I was thinking like Marta.
Yes, I would like that a lot.
That's very good against Tidehunter.
Okay, he's gonna prefer to like try to shit on Tide and Lane more than a Muaythar would, which, uh,
that's one way to snowball the game, play fast.
Okay, so I like this.
I'm still like trying to make up my mind fully because it is good.
It can be a bit volatile, but I'm like trying to look at the other heroes too.
I think with how Liquid should look to play, because like you already said, Monkees very good against Tide and the Lane.
You have Jukiro, so your safe lane is very, very strong.
Boxing on the Marci 4. I would love if he's like also looking towards the safe and like now you already have a good safe
And with the monkey jerk hero pick an offlaner where ace can you know do his thing like build some auras against the gyro
I would have loved centaur early on I think tight is a very like quite a hard counter to the hero
But anyone that can lane alone into offline, you know make up space for boxy so he can leave so that you give
Even more like purpose to this monkey. I would love it under lord looks pretty decent
Yet to win in the tournament for seven games, which is crazy
We can't answer the question Jenkins. We've tried that
That's when I we've been trying to figure out like why and the Lord's felt first fell out of favor and why it can't win
Yeah, it's a good question. I mean, I think I think a lot of the more
Meta carries now do deal with underlord pretty well like
Ursa, Muerta, these heroes, I think, they do so much damage, they can kill an Underlord,
teeping into a fight, but yeah, I don't know, sometimes when a hero is low picked, that
happens, the win rate is just low.
Sometimes it's like the lower tier team is picking it in situations where it's not
that great, you don't have a specialty player, but Ace Underlord is a different beast, in
my opinion.
I mean, it's just one of his best heroes, I think any of these would fit, they understand
that too, they take it out, they also don't have much time.
I do think you're looking for a melee hero, like more so.
I think you talked about Kanka, one of the other games.
I think that's okay.
It's not an insane lane, but he can build stuff.
He's overall good.
You can trade the boat for the gyro,
like his cooldowns, his BKB.
I think Centaur is fine.
I just personally don't like the matchup against Tide
because the anchor just makes them P useless.
But maybe you can play on the fact
that we're gonna destroy this Tide in the early game.
We're gonna buy like a Silver Agilator
on the Monkey King or toss him back.
And we're happy because of that.
I always forget about bristle because it's not it's like it's like a non-stunning off-laner
But it's good. It's like a tanky frontline guy to run in I think I think you're okay against
This is a very liquid draft
Like you have good lanes you can play forward with each other your heroes make sense
You have like a bit of minus armor for the monkey king for the tiny
Okay, Tundra, what was left this time around I?
Timber saw
Timber Timber mid Timber quap. I would say all swap is really good
BGM doesn't really play Timber mid too much to see. Quap is good
I just when I look at bristle tiny monkey. I think like this is there's some punish here that exists, right? It's like three
Melee guys that will run at you. Quap looks insanely good actually
it's like quap and I
I haven't seen a matchup enough lately, like there's a world where you could maybe pick Viper, but maybe there's some dispositioning that's an orc.
Yeah, I was looking at the BGM in Valkyrie, but Viper's pretty good.
Yeah, like because you have to break against Monkey and Bristle, then the only thing is maybe you want a bit more like play-make, that's why perhaps the co-op could make a little more sense.
There's also like Earthshaker against Tiny Mid, and then there's four melee heroes on the enemy side, that seems pretty punishable to me.
Earthshaker tie it seems so hard to fight into it is and they have a lot of good options because you have a lot of good
Teamfight already from your other heroes
Park on gyro should give you like most of the damage at least when it comes to this draft
What about necrophos if this is a different team if it wasn't easy him yeah
Yeah, his version of that would be like the Queen of Pain Earthshaker for sure
Oh my god, that's even worse.
Yeah, forgot about that one as well.
Ah, this is, Nisha is smiling for now, so I hope he's cooking up an idea, because this
is a bad matchup.
I will say that at least some of the lane dominators, there is counter play for Liquid,
like Boxie is very good at TPing mid, getting able to early, get to dispose, the Husker
Maybe he's like overplaying get him into Nisha or you go for like a avalanche toss back into like a TP
Or you start three people with a smoke
Because something cool doesn't need to happen or if you sac mid you need to destroy the tide like liquid whatever they do full commit
Yes, it's really important that last pick Oscar. You know what scares me about this a little bit for our boy Nisha is that
that BZM has been on the other end of this one,
where he was tiny versus Huskar,
and it was Lornoff Huskar.
Of all the Huskars in the world to be playing against,
that is not the guy you wanna be playing against.
And BZM actually did fine.
The lane was not so bad.
He kind of outplayed, you know,
boots, cutting waves, things like that.
And then he played super active and came online.
So I think Liquid has that as an option.
there's a world where like the entire game is determined completely by the
middle-length where like just the laning mechanics of BZM are superior to
Nisha's in the first like four to five minutes he wins these like trades where
you're cutting waves with boots that can happen but if it doesn't happen I do
think that liquid has a pretty good shot at like playing really active and
winning early yeah I have faith in the liquid draft I think there's like
Boxy who can be a little bit of the X factor early on and I think also I
Hasn't lost one more, see ya.
Exactly, like this guy is good.
I think also.
This is Nisha.
Yep.
And then this is BZM.
What does Nisha need to do?
BZM standing here, he's on the hill.
Yep.
Okay, he's up.
Up here, on the hill.
I'm hitting, what does BZM need to do?
We're just gonna avalanche, toss you back
into the guy that's TPing, so we need a new one.
So this is Boxy.
Now you get disposed into here.
And then this is the guy coming in.
This is the new guy coming in.
Exactly, so this is the new guy.
And now he disposes this guy in.
There's the Avatar's back on the mid tower.
Well, I'm just going to interrupt
a goblet related segment to throw you over the slacks.
Thank God, Mr. Richard Lewis.
Thank you for throwing to us.
We have Mr. Moon meander here.
Got to feel good after game one, huh?
Yeah, just giving Parker a call to me,
and we're like, OK, you stand in.
We give you whatever you want.
Not too creative with Game Two's draft,
if you don't mind me saying.
It's a pretty standard hero, some stuff
that we have seen before.
In fact, this Huskar picked 50 bands before this, and you guys managed to get it.
Are you excited to get that?
Yeah, BGM really wanted it, because I had a conversation with him, where you could go
saying like, BGM, these people would just keep buying, picking the voice for it, and
for us, Chinese, you're going to take this disrespect away.
So you cue the Huskar pop, and then you got it ready, and stamp the fucking issue.
All right, all right, I like to see it, absolutely.
Now I do have to ask you about the team liquid draft here.
I mean we're seeing a lot of iconic heroes from them, especially kind of scary with that
tiny interaction.
BZM has fought against the tiny before, Inverse though, I believe he was the tiny.
What do you think about liquid draft?
They are very temple based with the MRC4 and Monkey King, the heroes have little to no
scaling and that's why they're not really pop heroes.
If you lose the game in like 10 minutes, we'll scale for what?
So this is the way Liquid's strength is gonna show.
They're already starting with the cheese with the block and stuff.
They have to go and run at this.
Alright, well it looks like they're running at you already.
So I'm gonna let you get into the game and you can see you're very focused here.
Will you get first blood or the enemy?
Uh, I think we are gonna get first blood.
Unless fight one like, uh, peace of fight.
Okay, well we'll see how the feeds go.
Congratulations so far.
So far, we'll see if we talk to you again, hopefully not, because that would be a loser
interview, so you're fine.
Coming to game number two here, as a temperature they've got that one-offing lead, and we take
a look at all three lanes.
We've got Parker on this gyrocopter, and all the other gyrocopters so far on the Tournament
have taken Afterburner in the carry-safe lane role.
While they were in the warm-ups, he was spamming back and forth between Afterburner and secondary
just constantly clicking them, and he ended up, at least on my screen, secondary strikes.
Yeah, it's good against Monkey King when he's trying to run away, so you have that extra
bit of damage. Jaster Burner is better for chasing, but there's also potentially, as you said,
we saw him collect multiple times, just constantly swapping, and maybe he ended up with the one
that he didn't want, but we'll have to see. And a little bit of a switcher route,
We are seeing Nisha playing behind enemy lines, playing into this difficult matchup.
Avalanche not connect onto the creep wave, and the lane is still in a good spot for BZM.
I had to double check BZM's win rate on the hero. He's sitting at 75%, played four games,
and as Moonbyander also said, he queued up a pub and he's ready to go.
These are professional e-athletes, they don't need as much as other people.
You do a lot more credit by saying E-athlete.
Yeah.
What would you call them?
No, no, I just, I'm just agreeing.
I, I got nothing against you saying E-athlete.
Yeah, with the minus in between.
The little dash.
Yeah, yeah.
E-athlete.
You know, add quotes as well.
That's how we wrote Esports for a long time with capital A.
Yeah.
say capital A or no capital A. I guess that's all in the eye of the beholder. Based on the
way everybody writes esports and stuff like that. They'll pull the wave all the way through
the small camp to the second camp, all the way in. And Parker, he had an amazing game
on that Mipo last time and I wouldn't be too surprised to see him be happy about it. And
Parker's just tipping Nisha. He'll tip all the way over to Nisha, not sure exactly what
He was tipping four, but Foxy now getting the Lotus Blood Gernade
They've got the rocket barrage onto ace and Ari's certain to soak up some of these quills
He needs to be careful about how many he's on the three hits on the career still gonna be able to get it Parker
Magic one, he might go for Shackle again, but it's not
On to ace it's not gonna matter initially
And then to beat a kill for Parker first to get Boxy, Ace kills Ari.
Oh, he was holding onto his verifier and magic stick.
Ideally you want to use that after you get out of the foul play, but unable to get it
straight away.
And we are seeing the new tricks coming out from 33's book.
I think he was the one who kind of started it and everybody started to copy it as well.
The tranquil boot disassembled.
Maybe he was like D1 because Boxy's pretty much was the only position for that was doing
it and then I think 33 realized this guy is on to something I could do this from the off lane
ring of health rig on region actually a very good starting item as well you all you need is wind
lace and they also swap things around having warlock playing in the top part of the map playing
with tight hunter because both of the supports on the side of tundra are very slow I see shadow
shaman I see warlock these heroes don't move as easily white one working around the mid lane but
This is not a hero that they have any kind of slows or stuns, so no real setup.
Nisha, he needs to find a way how to play the game, because right now it is unplayable.
VZM is holding the creep wave on his hill. 33. Got the disassembles, so not gonna be stuck on the
trangles. Wait a minute, coming in with a shadow where that'll heal him up. 33 was just kind of
hiding out there in the trees, waiting for the creep wave, that he'd like to pull all the way
over. This is one of those creeps. Micky goes into the trees and now the primal spring
right on top of the tiny. Can't TP because the balance strike is always at the ready.
Jingo goes off, 33 is going to be chased and eventually the balance strike will come in
and he'll end up dead. Trying to try to pull this creep wave but he'll pay for it. Shackles
from Ari, Avalanche from Nisha and this is how you're going to get your way back into
the game by rotating. He's level 4. He comes all the way bottom to get a kill.
Parker should tip him now because this was a really good move from Nisha. Can't
really lane in the mid lane but he can go to the other lanes and make stuff
happen. White one also doesn't really have a purpose in this game as a level
two warlock so he's gonna be struggling getting the kills. Mid laner is not the
hero that you want to be playing with. Top lane doesn't want to even lane so
might need to go to the bottom lane and try to make something happen. Parker
We're getting initiated on the turn around, Snake. Two fairy fires on him.
Don't have enough to get the kill on a Parker, but this is a good start from Liquid, minus the Nisha lane.
But Nisha coming over and getting that kill and now going maybe towards top. I think he'll look there for a second.
33's gotta find space to kinda get some farm elsewhere. His lane's not too easy either.
He's trying to pull these creep waves, but as we saw in the last time he tried to pull, he ended up just dying.
Tofu's coming over, rebound off, but they don't get anything.
Now TP from the Warlock, disposing his own ally and Whitemon not able to come over and
really do much other than Shadow Warding Parker.
It's enough.
And as we said, he doesn't really have much to do on this Warlock.
Xperoon is also potentially available to be taken by Mekke.
If he realizes the supports are showing.
And there's also Night Note Tidehunter.
He is pulling the creep wave, and they are doing exactly that.
Both of the supports are actually going for it.
Looks like it'll be two shrunts.
For the side of Liquid, if it all goes according to plan, but Ace under Scalic.
And that'll be one for Tofu, and on the other side, they've got Ace in some trouble.
Mickey comes in and now has the Wu Kongs.
Parker's in the circle and he needs to evade it because
he's in some trouble with the damage coming in.
I'll get in for the stun.
Oh, he was close.
Boxie realized that he got close just for the three heroes to be close
so the stun maybe comes through but a little too late.
I think I'm being a little bit too late and that ends up being two kills there for Liquid.
Turns into the Courier, moves over, goes back to the Twin Gate.
It's one of the best heroes that Twin Gates rotate with. You're not using that much mana anyway.
And immediately back to the top lane.
What's the game plan here from Tundra? Because Huskar had such a good lane.
Are you expecting him to rotate earlier? Or is he going to sit here and farm to a certain point?
As Parker gets chased, Icepath lands, Tofu gets the kill, and these Shackos are just extending Ori's life because he is dead too.
I say that and now they'll go for Nisha over mid.
BZM putting these burning spears onto Nisha, but he gets out of the tower and BZM's not
going to get a kill, so Thinx slipping away from Tundra pretty quickly.
It's the Brazil scoreline in favoring Liquid 7-1, 2,000 net worth lead for them, and now
Whitebond needs to step away from Nisha, who despite the fact that his lane didn't go well
has had some impact, but he does not have the gold to show that.
are really under level their exp runes got stolen this is something that
Moon meander talked about if they snowball a lot of control they might be
cooked because this is a very good scaling lineup like to the mid game you
have tiny you have bristleback with one aura once he shows up but huskar they
will need to utilize this hero because right now they don't have the playmaker
two supports also lack levels tight hunter is a type of a hero that wants to
farm get to his item timings but doesn't really want to move so a bit of a
slower game from tundra while liquid they can definitely speed up the tempo
thing for warlock too is he's not really getting a lot of experience or books so
he doesn't have that recovery or that push and I'm looking around the map and
they've tried to get kills bottom they were trying to get him some black room
Wars which would have pushed him to six and they have the chaotic offering available, but they're just
Not getting anything anywhere around the map
Right once soaking up xp
From Parker knowing that he needs that level six. Well
You have hoskark continues pretty much everybody wants to jungle at the moment and very deep smoke from liquid
Let's see what they're gonna be able to find but her tofu Parker is the one that they want
The same level as Parker, rebound, shadow word, REZ. This might be a save as they'll
try to go with the secondary strikes doing the damage to get the kill-offs. Not one,
but should be two. But the toss, it's a dunk from Nisha on a Parker getting that one.
BZM needs to be careful. These Quills are spraying REZ in trouble, but hits the shackles,
and will eventually break that, but Ace, burning spears doing a bit. They go to the
ravage, down to three, they get the kill on Ace, and Micae and Nisha, they're here kind of
I'm wondering what they can do, Avalanche as well as the Wukong's command, tossing him back into the circle, and 33, he's going to be killed, good damage done by the side of Liquid with that combination.
Also not too bad of a fight for Tundra, getting some of the XP, 3 grimoire charges, that's going to push him to his level 6, and also getting Parker involved.
Marker, that's a lot of damage, Nisha.
He was not expecting that.
Nisha from a rough lane to a head of the gyro.
Just like that.
His game has been salvaged completely, only 400 golds behind this Huskar now.
Just a second ago, he had 2800 net worth.
And immediately playing aggressive in the top lane 33.
Found the strike two points in cracking shell
Bring the Huskar in 33 and white bond nearby
They even want to rotate on this they've got level six
They pop the black grim waters and they get the chaotic offering available to the world off
BZM spots tofu chaotic offering even coming down with this as tofu will die to white bond
Easy I'm helping to get that kill and as you do with your chaotic offerings you go for the towers
Right afterwards, and we've seen this so many times from warlords
Dispose the viscous nasal goo and we'll shoot the call down his way back towards tower to make sure he can escape if need be
Parker gonna continue to farm on that creep wave, but that is very dangerous for him and
And he's trying to find some stability down towards bottom because he already lost that tier one tower and he's forced to farm back in his jungle.
Getting 6 on Shadow Shaman, also gonna be crucial, very close to it. I was thinking about itemization on Mckay, check couple of the last games that he did play on Monkey King.
Usually he tends to go for Diffusal Blade into another item.
A lot of the times he also goes for Deso, Diffusal Deso.
Deso is really good, like you want to have that physical damage, playing against Hascar.
So that's going to be a really, really early timing on this Desolator.
Tossback with Amplify damage.
Tofu gets the kill on a BZM, he was the one who was having the best game out of all of
Tundra.
And Liquid have now broken that.
And Nisha, despite the lane, is 4-0-1, and about to have another one.
They'll have another assist.
Ace gets that kill, and Liquid have done such a good job coming out of that first disastrous
5-7 minutes for Nisha.
And it all starts with his rotation bottom.
It starts with that rotation, the kills that they were able to get going through the Twin
Gates with Monkey King coming bottom as well, and then they turn that into Shrines and get
to this point where they've leveraged this early situation into an advantage for themselves.
That looks quite tough to crack.
It really does.
It's a strong timing for Liquid, especially with Tadeso now being online.
Tiny is about to finish off his Blink Dagger.
And again, something to point out.
I've been yapping about it.
Tiny, phase boots, windlays, he finds Cobalt Cup, plus a quickened enchantment.
Oxy, he's gonna go for the save. Ravage is at the ready.
Ravage at the ready, but if he can't keep up, it doesn't matter.
Lifebreak, end of silence. On a tiny toss back onto the tower.
BCM's away from his team. He's gonna need some balance.
Ravage stops out 33, and BCM's dead again.
Balance story coming out for Mikkei.
And now the chase is on to go for this tie.
They're thinking about the Wukong, but they're gonna go on Anisha.
It's BCM who gets credit for that one after he's already died.
10 seconds to go. Wukong's no.
Now the call down to turn around and they can't get anything going.
Leibmann's nearby thinking about dropping the chaotic offering
but they should be able to get the kill to the Shadow Shaman.
Holds the chaotic offering. They don't have a lot of lives on 33.
So he doesn't want to commit in with said ravage.
They also don't have much damage. Flakannon was already used, so it was called down.
Even Shadow Shaman words, they definitely need this Huskar to pump in the damage.
At least he got a kill. Something going Thunder's way.
Getting a return kill, but also getting those Deso stacks up, and Mikkei, Deso, into Ekko Saber, wants to be able to get up those damage as fast as possible.
Nisha with the blink dagger, things are starting to get messier and messier for Tundra.
They have a lot of long cooldowns compared to Liquid, that this type of lineup has literally zero cooldowns.
You have Wukong's command, but you will take the fight even without it.
Yeah, it's not a necessity to take a good fight in a game like this.
You've got so many other things that could really work out for you.
I mean, the lack of cooldowns for Bristleback lets you run in the low cooldowns for the tiny.
And if you don't have Wukong's, you can use Icepath Makropire and make the fight very difficult.
Marcy with the ability to help you dodge, to pick me up.
A lot of checkboxes for Liquid, a great draft from them so far.
Working out very much in their favor, despite the struggle in the laning phase over mid.
Yeah, that's just the power of Nisha, right? Knowing where to be able to go to recover his game.
Exactly.
Did an amazing job getting good timing on the blink-pagger.
Still faster than the average. I mean, there are some good amount of position for Tynes as well,
which means that timing is not going to be as accurate maybe for the midlaners.
Let's see, it does feel that with the saves that they have, like Tossback pick me up,
changing of the guard fast to the Monkey King.
If Tundra doesn't get stuff done during the big alties, they are losing a longer fight.
Haskar has been answered.
They have good amount of physical damage.
This is seeing Red Bristleback and they're about to finish Roche.
later as well. Even Marcy, like she could definitely pack a punch with Unleash as a follow-up damage to one of these.
This is now an objective game that you've kind of lost your advantage on for Tundra too. If they wanted to go and get themselves
Rosh, Liquid just continuing to make the moves and nullify what Tundra have really wanted.
Mechanic offering flies in, but they kept Parker within the Wukong's icepattern accident.
He is in trouble. Shadow Ward's not going to be enough.
Fatalbonds are in a decent spot. They will get the kill on a tofu, but that's not worth your carry.
Now they're going to try and get a kill here onto the Monkey King.
The problem is, he's got an Aegis. BZM's in trouble. They get the kill on a boxy.
Oh, he got it through.
That goes BZM with a tree thrown over by Nija.
Nija's now second life. The cheese is on for Aurean 33.
The jump to find the Shadow Blood grenade.
And that will be another kill, Avalanche, and eventually the foul play will run out.
Mikkei has got himself another. He is on a mega kill streak, four kills for Liquid.
Nice try from R.A. to try to cancel the Blink Dagger with the Blood Grenade,
but he came out of that hack slightly too early, earlier than he expected.
And also Arcane Rune on Nisha allows it to get multiple rounds of spells in the previous fight.
starts off with just this catch from Mickey and the follow-up from Boxy to rebound in
dispose and keep him within that circle yes they get a kill there on the tofu but
overall it just is not working out for tundra they're continuing to lose BZM and
I don't know it feels as though every death especially in this mid game for a
Huskar lowers your win percentage by a big chunk. It definitely does. It's like dying with Templar assassin
Oh, he couldn't believe what happened. He toggled tried to toggle and then got hit by a tree
Even a little bit of the sopranos right there as he was upset
It's like what is this for gazey like what is this fake thing that did to kill me just now?
He's an interior decorator as he gets hit with that tree.
Wukong's Boundless Strike.
33 runs out of the circle this time around, but he should try to catch up, throws a tree his way.
Does have Ravage, but will try to escape all BGM does and kills off Boxy.
Tide escaping this time, and it's a kill, but you can see this net...
They have the Ravage ready.
Falling off.
30 seconds for chaotic offering. Yeah, they are trying to take the fight and Parker
He was toying with the idea
I was looking at his atomization that maybe he could just keep this dragon lance get a silver edge try to break this bristle back
Even break monkey king that's gonna take a lot of his damage
But opted to go for hurricane pike so basically
Not a like real carry item build by any means
still doing the damage but also wants to have a way of potentially pushing Monkey King out of
Vukong's command. We haven't talked too much about Bristleback. Ace has been still involved in good
amount of kills but he's been also farming a good amount on top of the network right now going for
the much full carry build. This is what Mikke also wanted to buy in the previous game. Lotus Orb,
SNY had that status assistance against all of these annoying stuns and spells and also having
the spell mechanic.
Fox comes in, blink, gush, but it picked me up to leave.
Icepath got a two-ballon strike landed there too.
EZM, Shadow Ward healing a little bit,
thinking about the chaotic offering,
but Ace is so tanky, so strong, he just looked at them
and forced Tundra to kind of run the other way.
EZM's starting to stack up those burning spears.
We applied on the Shadow Ward, but not committing to going
into getting this kill onto the Bristle.
He's actually keeping them so close that now they've smoked on Liquid.
He's using this opportunity to go with the BKB, they've got the toss back into the circle, and BZM's just dead.
And this is all them just trying to pick away at Ace,
hoping that maybe they could get a little bit of damage or find somebody to bit out.
But Liquid take advantage.
They think about going to the Ice Path, they've got themselves the Unleashed Chaotic Offering, flies in,
Voli-Zero's in trouble, Tofu, though, plans the Ice Path onto free, and Parker, he is burning down low,
has the help of the Shadow Ward, it's gonna be Armory with the toss.
They get the toss, and now the rock barrage with the damage informates.
They get the kill there on the Parker, and they look over at Wython.
That's another one, the Ravage too late.
It gets the kill on the ace, but it doesn't save the rest.
It ends up being a bit of a beneficial one in the fact that they were able to kill the top network hero,
but eventually it'll be a full team wipe for Liquid, and success in this fight overall.
A lot of the times you will see these teamfighting lineups,
compared to the other side, which doesn't have as much teamfight, but still losing,
because they're splitting up the fight.
Oh, this is a big kill if you can get it.
Start stacking those spears up.
Now a strike back to full, just kidding.
And BGM's dead.
Every single time, we haven't seen them yet
use the combo with tight ravage, with warlocks golem,
because there are two fights happening at the same time.
And also kind of always taking the fight 4v5.
Yeah, it's going.
I like to say, Tide, N2, N2, N2, N2, N2, N2.
Combine the Ravage, Golem, and have Haskard deal the damage.
Easy, full team wipe, and...
Esha, he said he wants to do it, he'll probably continue to do it.
Throw these heroes into the circle of the Wu Kong's command.
22% seems super generous.
Yeah, usually, Gyaracopters tend to have, I would say, a lot more farm,
and a lot more impact in this one, Parker, he got shut down.
Mckay, he's on the chase.
Shackles healing, but eventually, nice path in.
Mckay's got another kill, he's got like 9-0-1-4.
Mckay's getting all the physical damage items, playing against Huskar,
knowing that he's gonna die.
All they have to do is toss him into the bukhongs, even without the bukhongs,
he's still gonna die.
Going for the similar edge next, Echo Saber double hit.
These are the items that usually we don't see.
Mostly see Echo Saber being built on Sven, but that's about it.
What's really the way back for Tundra?
Is there a way back?
Is he just hoping Gyro can kind of stack up a couple more items?
Haskar also don't underestimate his damage.
He's going for an interesting item build to provide something for the team at least crimson guard
Not a buff and mop, but yeah high ground defense is gonna be
Their best friend in this one and the ace I've seen him do this in bristletback before going for the heart
You're gonna be sitting at like 4,000 HP with insane amount of region in their faces
The reason why he's itemizing like this is he knows that they need to kill him straight away
And if they don't he's gonna be able to reach it up and then with no all these no cooldowns available for tundra
The flights are extremely difficult
With that heart he'll be seeing only red items. Oh, yeah
Shift down. Maybe
Maybe he'll keep the wand in there and shift out a brace or keep the heart have the one so wouldn't be all red
But if he shifts out the wand and goes to the heart, it's all red items on that seeing red bristle
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense
It's the way you get a build. That's my analytical input back to you, Lacoste.
Yeah, we've seen some all green items from Underlord. It was Bach, I believe, who built
the case. Tranquil Boots got canceled, then he also built into drums, because he didn't
know what to do with the Tranquils, then pipe. And they did end up losing that game. Maybe
that's not the best idea.
22 mid, ace going from tower to tower, lane to lane, he knows he feels pretty much unkillable.
It took everything in the kitchen sink, the whole kick-boodle to kill ace.
And even then, it didn't feel that good because you lost everybody.
Anyway, he's staying hidden, but they do have sentry.
there but back there and walk back through that sentry feels a little bit
risky but willing to go meanwhile warlock dead off-screen shackle called out
can they get the kill on an e-shirt hurricane pike and now leaving because
ace showed up liquid we're showing a 10 and then ace showed up and they were
trying to get the blackjack on this one to kill off this gyro instead they'll
finari. BZM caught, not much 33 can do, but BZM is going to be able to run out of the circle
for a second, start to get those burning spears off. He uses that ult onto the Jikiro, might
get a kill there, the silenced tofu in trouble, burning down and dead. BZM this time surviving,
bound the strike his way, Ace again showing up. There's a homie misses going to be thrown
over on Ace, but they hit the avalanche out of 33, he's going to ravage land onto three
these heroes, he's still running far, but there's the ULs from Boxy. That's on the Tidehunter who will
eventually die. He tried. He tried to itemize as well after like they have a lot of physical,
they have a lot of magical, so picking up Glimmer Cape and picking up Ghost Sector for himself.
He was also the one who kind of started the offlane Glimmer Cape trend. That was, I don't know,
year and a half back. And now again, going into Roche pit. This is something that Huskar
They might not like to have, he wants to be the one controlling the tempo of the game, having that second life.
Playing from behind, doesn't feel as good.
You saw Crimson in action, gave him just enough protection to survive.
Meanwhile, surviving is not the answer to everything.
Unfortunately, still need to get a couple of these kills and be able to defend.
surviving is good but steps two three four five and six require you to punch
back and fight oh he's getting scouted Parker they know where he is
hit by flat the instant teepees Parker four staff boys the avalanche those the
homie miss on an issue now it's to avoid the ice cat but with everybody here he's
dead again ace he gets them
Ace of spades, drop down on a Parker.
This Bristle continuing to sit at the top of the net worth.
Almost has that heart, just 250 gold away from getting that Ring of Tarask.
Don't have it already.
And he's felt pretty unkillable now.
I don't think that's going to change.
showing some goomers of hope here for Tundra, but is it streak hope even to
think that they can take a very one-sided fight? These are not easy fights. They
can try to go for pick-offs, which I think is the correct play. You have Shadow
Shaman with the blink bagger, drop down those wards, and you can see where Parker
was playing. He even put down the Observe Ward. He was actually Ari in the
enemy triangle, so they can try to get some farm there, because Shadow Ward
death that helps them leave the base you don't necessarily need to smoke but
you're also putting yourself in a position where maybe you're running
through the enemy vision but you got a risk in this type of a game you might
have an extra death or two but definitely worth risking it I'll see if
they're risking it is worth it if you're bringing this game back gotta always
to risk it for the biscuit, but sometimes you're just too short to reach that shelf and grab
those biscuits and give yourself a little bit of food and that's what's been starving
them so far, as Tundra haven't really had an answer since Nisha recovered his game.
Not just here, they recovered, he kind of owned the whole game as well with the rotation
to the bottom lane being super active, only dying once, shield rune available on him,
He was guard as well.
They find the Marcy, but Nisha's here ready to go.
And they will throw the Ravage out, but not sure it's going to matter whether the BKB
be popped by Nisha, BZM, trying to put the damage on, but they've got BK here with the
Wukong's command that can kill the BZM, the look to the rest.
33 already used that Ravage, will go Scepter, but that's only extending the death that will
come from Boxing.
He's got himself a double kill.
TP's immediately to the Shrine, Parker gonna show on this lane and then he might end up dead.
Tophu's gonna come in, Ballast Strike from a distance, Icepap is there, Makropire too.
Parker will Hurricane Pipe, but they'll even kill the Holy Missile as well as Parker.
GG is called. We're going to another game, 3 is Liquid. We'll take game number 2.
First game was a Stomp, but so was the second one.
This Huskar experiment didn't really work out.
Really nice rotations from Liquid through the Twin Gates.
And extremely good recovery from Nisha.
Dying only one time, playing against Huskar,
just showing the strength of Nisha as a player.
Yeah, I mean, amazing recovery from Nisha.
Hands down, one of the best mids out there, if not the best.
And if you're able to do that and recover so well,
I mean, hats off to you, that is amazing.
And then the Sidelanes doing so well for Liquid,
everything going their way, they force us to a game three.
We're going to throw back to the three best friends that anybody ever had guys take it away
It is like an anime over here. I think we figured out why team liquid were laughing when they saw those carpet
They had a glimpse into the future. They knew it was going to suck. Yeah, exactly my point, kesie
Yeah, because they just you know nisha it seems like he understood. I think it's also
Imagine that you know, we have seen before it's not as bad as some of the other ones. I mean look at this
and it's minute 12. They just, you know, run at him, a little toss in, Foxy slaps him in the face,
he just dies. Because already here, if you're a Tundra, you want to be ahead in the game.
You have a gyro, Warlock in the safe lane, you do pick the Tuscvar last, so I feel like they had
very different ideas of how, you know, at least this early game was going to pan out.
I'm starting to think that, like, Tiny versus Tuscvar isn't even bad for the Tiny.
If you're willing to make these, like, pops and style rotations, where at, like, four minutes in,
level five you're going to side lanes on tiny and getting active like legitimately just dodging the
lane I think it's good like and I personally felt this in my pubs playing as a lot of huskar as a
tiny there's these fights where I guess you're just like kind of casually poking at the huskar with
tall with your avalanche and then if he screws up and the like the armlet toggle is he's a little
bit low health and you can end up in situations like that where you get a
tossback into the team and the heroes are completely isolated and also chain
stun through BKB. You can't BKB any of this because Avalanche is now an aura. It
just it seems like actually a good answer to the hero just based on the
play style of both of them. I think especially also because maybe something
Conrad didn't take into consideration like consideration as much as they
should have is Liquid had very good side lanes. I mean off lane is whatever
against a gyro wallop, but they're safe lane. You have the jikiro monkey. It was quite easy for Nisha to
find these moves into the safe lane, into the off lane. And here, I will say that they clutched a
lot of plays. Like here, the start of this game was like the tossback into the Wu Kongs. And it's
also like, it's Michael Wu monkey king. Like this guy is the best monkey king in Dota 2. Like, and
you're giving him a super good lane. They pick it into the tide. And I really like the adaptation
as well with Voxy, you know, being, you know, on this melee hero, on his Marcy, one of his best.
I think Liquid this game, they played very, very well.
Yeah, and look, obviously, Huskar, you know, it's just a bit of a specialist pick.
You have to really know the limits of the hero and play right up to the limits.
And, you know, definitely not a Mal Ring level performance.
Meanwhile, you can see here, we've given our standout player to Nisha
for all the things Andrew was just talking about, which is you're in that lane,
the theoretically unfavorable matchup.
You weather the storm, you know,
and you're able to get through and then just own the game.
Yeah, that was almost as if he was the best.
Like I almost, I mean, I think Nisha replays in general
are probably good to watch if you want to learn.
But I think in terms of like a lesson in how to beat
what is supposed to be one of the most unfavorable matchups,
like how to deal with difficult lanes.
This is one that you should watch.
I love that Dota these days is like just the old concepts
are broken down and don't work anymore it's like you have people cutting waves
with boots we had a situation in this game where three waves were dragged
towards me what was that well we can look at that actually it was like what
six minutes yeah like because he's getting owned so hard by the Mickey
and monkey King he drags the creep wave to mid and there's supports running at
him or at least he thinks there are supports running at him so he thinks
that he needs to do this maybe he thinks that okay I'll go mid and I'll give my
Huskar some free XP, but he stood here and he kind of took it and also there was a seed wave that BZM was
Pressuring on I legitimately was not sure what to make of this because I've never seen that
I've you seen that like my first instinct was wow
He's double waving someone they can like push but it actually it wasn't that other yeah
It was so strange because opposite like they were taking their wisdom like you probably wouldn't even want to be there
Because now BZM like couldn't hit the tower, but it's like all these things like you're saying
It's like this create like creativity because things are so bad you're doing like this other weird stuff
Yeah, it's like it's just funny to see you're creating this
Maybe that lane's not the one you want to bring the chaos to though definitely not as we can see from this comparison
It was a rough one. It really was a rough one. Uh
Yeah
You know the funny thing is like the hero damage isn't even hugely significant and it's not even in favor of Nisha
but it's because Nisha's job in this game was to blink in,
try to get Huskar when he was like armlet toggled low HP,
and toss back into Mikay on Monkey King,
who pretty much just would drop the Wukong,
trusting that Nisha is going for these plays,
and insta-kill BZM,
and there was no way that he could armlet toggle.
He was even building a Crimzing Guard to try to deal with this.
I mean, it's also, I do definitely think that BZM had a couple of moments
where he should not have died, or at least not as easily.
I understand we did see some clips where he got tossed back into the Wukong's and was like okay
Like what can you do type moment, but there were other ones where he overpaid a little bit
And I think also the Huskar into the Monkey King like you know that Mickey he plays very aggressive
He's gonna build a desk so later Huskar is a very low armor hero
So I do think they offered themselves up at least in some way
You know like they had to play very well early on or at least better than they did because otherwise liquid they were just gonna
Do that. Yeah, crazy. I think we've had two stompy games
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here with the mark to rank the offlaners in the event fifth being the best of you know
the worst and then rank one being obviously the best who would you put in spot 5? Ace.
Who? Ace. Ace. Any reason? No, not much. Just Ace, alright. Yeah, it's a rank, you don't
have to get into a 2 bed. Alright, how about number 4? Pick yourself, but I wouldn't put
you at number 4. No, we'll put Nico. Nico on number 4 in the discussion, that's interesting
on OG. Do you watch a lot of his games? No. Okay, great. How about number three? It's
gonna be Bach. Bach? Yeah. Alright, Mr. Bach. Old school. Is that his best role? I
mean, I'm just asking. I don't know. You don't know. I don't know. Okay. Number three it
How about number two second best at the tournament the one that you face off against all the time although it could be yourself
inferior
Who inferior oh infernal?
Yes, yes, why is that yellow submarine really?
You'll see you'll see I choose the first you understand. Okay. Okay. All right. Well, let's get on to it
Who is the best here? Jabs
jabs
Incredible. What do you love so much about jammed?
So I think you understand, I like not the five worst, I like the five worst.
Oh, okay, the five worst. Unbelievably toxic. Okay, well, um...
Yeah, that about sums it up. Thank you so much. You have the five worst, okay?
Well, that's the content, but we'll edit that out and they'll think they're the best from the best off-laner right here.
you.
All tied up turn driven liquid,
but that must be a winner. We're
going to find out who that is
now before we get into that. The
panel are going to share some
thoughts with you in what we
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forward to it, guys over to you.
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Oh
It's the crotch come you are excited about this match sure you I'm really excited. It is a game three
I'm gonna I might get to a double goblet
But he talking about that for David
Yeah, by the way, in case everyone's the juvenile nonsense hosts have to deal with like these panelists like giggly
I didn't
Sugging you know every day there is a goblet man that PGM plays
I'm not
Just in here alone it's where it's only us three it is literally only a sling studio I know it's spooky and scary
Just as it is for both of these teams
It is scary because it's a 1-1 you had some cheesy stuff come out
We had a meepo and game one easy win. I mean cheesy stuff in both
I'm gonna move that goblet
Yeah, move that a little bit to the level your husband game to you take the L
But I do think they disrespected
The boxy Marcy and the Michael Wu monkey King Andrew would be that was that was beautiful Maurice
I really like that. I mean there was like really cool plays where you could see the
man that like core of liquid
with Nisha, Boxy, and Mikay.
Sometimes they make these plays
where it feels like they have one brain cell.
Like Nisha tossing Boxy into the tier two tower mid perfectly
so he could toss back out of the tower
and Ace was like already there, set up.
Like the games were there ahead
and they snowball are picture perfect, just beautiful.
I mean, the scores are very like strange in a way.
Like it's not often you have like two of the best teams
go up against each other and the two games are 40 to four
in 12 to 34 where it's like you go to minute nine and you know the game is kind of cooked for the other side unless one team
That's like a heart attack or like after pcs explode because that's what these games are
Happened a lot hasn't happened. You know, maybe not that you're here, you know, no the players are getting old. We'll see
The goblet man has crazy powers
Do not betray the goblet man
You so you said they have one brain cell usually that's I see that as like a bad thing
Okay, maybe they have one like one bright one high one. I didn't mean to make it an insult because
The way that they pull I mean it is not easy to do what they did even
Even if you could hypothetically have a giga brain. That's three guys three guys worth of a brain playing three heroes
That's not easy to do that requires individual skill on all of the heroes and then also perfect synergy between the players and trust
There has to be trust there to form the single brain. Mm-hmm. That's a good point
Oh
Okay, I mean on the flip side tundra they can sometimes look like this maybe not so much with Parker
It did feel like in the last game. He was a bit on an island again
I mean I honestly like I think both drafts for tundra have been better in a way
I just think like obviously I don't think BGM is a hussgar specialist. That's all
Look like that. I would agree just he's not let's just put it out there. He's not moon said he cuto
You know, it wasn't Maureen on Huskar, you know, and when you see that level of performance,
when you see performance from a Huskar specialist, as I said, they know how to play to the limits
of the hero and really make it do nasty things.
Sure.
But BTM looked a little bit adrift.
I'm not, you know, obviously he's up against.
He did, he did.
He just did.
He just did.
Let's not beat around the bush.
He did.
It looked like shit.
It happens.
Like I totally understand it.
He's leaning against like literally the best bid later on earth and you also want to have
of that in your wheelhouse.
Like, Tundra wants to be a team that you're afraid to pick
certain heroes because they could last pick Huskar.
Teams desire this ability.
It's true.
And some teams just can't do it.
It's like the trade-off is that BZM is like the best
invoker in the world.
So teams are afraid of that.
If they can also unlock Huskar, that's a big deal, right?
So they're going to try, and they're
going to try, and they're going to try at tournaments.
They tried here, and it's not good enough against Liquid.
Not yet.
I don't doubt that he'll eventually get to the point
that it is good enough.
but it is not good enough to be liquid right now. It just isn't.
It's also like maybe one of those heroes, because I fully agree.
Like when you do, if you get multiple of, like they already have this in like the first phase,
there's so many heroes you don't want to give to this team.
If you can have it at the end of the draft as well, that is very powerful.
But like maybe when you think about it from like a strategic standpoint,
Liquid play very fast.
So even if Nisha does have a bad time, I think like the side lanes and the other heroes,
they can probably interact with a Huskar more on average than like, I don't know,
like a team Falcons or like a slower team, like a team Spirit.
So if you Huskar them, maybe you get like, you know, even more out of it.
But I think overall it might be like interesting.
Like if you're the two teams, because you've just played two games back to back
that are like full, full on stumps.
I think it's important that you're like very clear about what you're taking out.
Like off those two games.
I think liquid's adjustment from game one to two was quite good.
And I mean, I kind of like what I see here.
The monkey king, I will have to wait a little bit more.
But I think taking out the Marcy overall.
Yeah, the more I think the Marcy is good.
remember, we already said, Bugsie hasn't lost when he's got his Marcy, so definitely makes
it.
Yeah, that's a nasty player-hero combination.
I mean, as well with the Monkey King, I mean, it's very likely that just a lot of the heroes
that 33 is eyeing, you know, the Mickey Monkey King just kind of plays into it like very
strongly, whether it's his tide or his timber or a centaur.
So, Tundra can now get one of the big four heroes,
if they just don't ban any of them.
Like, Triant is there, SF is there, Largo is out,
Batrider is there.
So they're gonna get Triant, SF, or Batrider right now,
right on the eighth pick.
Or hypothetically, they have access to these heroes.
This is what they did in Dream League.
The question of will they do it again?
I'm not so sure, because the meta has developed.
Obviously, teams looked at what they did
and they're copying it.
So maybe they need to be a step ahead.
But if we're following what that meta was,
this is what they should do, is that they'll,
like Liquid will ban something that's not
Treant or Batrider, and then they'll do a trade.
I will be afraid of giving Klundra Batrider,
which at least for now, that is probably the case.
So my question is like, what's the answer for Liquid?
Why are they giving Batrider away?
They need a ninth pick that solves it.
I mean, we saw Windranger, I can't remember.
I think it was maybe even them that did it.
Maybe.
We have seen Windranger into bad.
Yeah, maybe it was Tundra.
Yeah, Windranger into bad, exactly.
Which is funny, because I think when we did see it, the wind died in lane to bad,
and I was like, okay, well, that's rough.
I mean, Windranger does all magic damage.
Windrunner is very susceptible to that.
But then later on in the game, it's actually decent.
You can just solo the Batrider, full to zero.
I mean, there are some other things that are good,
but this hero overall has fallen off a bit more.
You picked that, you won the Weaver in one of the matchups, but I feel like this hero has definitely fallen off.
So Windranger is one, that is definitely good, like you said.
The Weaver is rough. I just think that the numbers on it are too low right now.
Okay, they do the exact trade.
Yeah, I mean, it really can go both ways.
And I feel like 33 is the type of guy
to identify the timing on a wind that
is good against bad that people are seeing
and have some counter to it.
Because on axe, when people were playing
ABBA versus axe, and they would go, obviously,
for radiance on ABBA.
And he said, OK, I'm not going blink on axe.
I'm going pipe.
And then he would match the radiance timing on ABBA
with the pike timing on axe.
And it looked really good.
And I wonder if there's something similar that he can do here
in terms of build and the way he plays.
We saw some bad games where they go like strongly for the Auras,
which I personally don't love that much.
I think Windranger is a type of hero that she over kills the Auras.
I think what's nicer to think about against this hero is to actually kill her.
Second item, Blink.
Exactly. Like I would love that,
because we've seen, I think it was ParryVision with SSS,
who he messed up some item builds,
but then I saw Collapse on a different day.
He was just called like Boots of Bering, Blink Axe.
And he was destroying the game because he just made this small pivot.
And I think this matchup, or a specific matchup, stay call for this.
Yeah, I am a million percent agree with that.
I think that's, I think that's how you play bad versus wind because the,
the timing only exists for wind versus bad because of the things that you mentioned.
And because of what like the common build is on that,
which is ironic because the old bat rider would just dumpster windrunner
because you would just rush blank, right?
But that's just not how people play the meta in this offline.
There's always like one small item that you need at least like one or item.
it is still like very scary like 33 batrider I remember like when I first
played this is like 10 years ago I had like 20 games and I messaged this guy
because he was already very good at batrider he was like play 50 more games
than talk to me because he's like this hero is too complex that if I talked like
if I tell you about the hero right now it won't go anywhere go play 50 to 100
games get your like initial knowledge like level it up and then you can like
come talk to me again and this guy like 10 years ago had already like 800 900
bad writer games. Like if I trust anyone, it's this man.
And they're trying to, you know,
double solve the Bat Rider here.
The Shattered Demon, a very good hero versus Bat.
The Purge,
souling Bat Rider through BKB.
Even if he doesn't have BKB,
you can purge the Boots of Bering,
which will naturally come out.
And the neutral item as well,
which naturally the move speed one.
Koboza Koboza.
You'll purge that as well, which is very good.
And then of course you have the save from the lasso in the disruption, so generally good
here as well.
You can't really go wrong with the Shadowed Demon.
I guess that's a 4 SD.
You can play Windranger SD in the safe and it's fine.
I don't think it's like crazy because you don't have super high kill threat.
Maybe it depends.
I'm not really sure what the read is when you play Windranger into this.
I guess you're just happy living or free farming and living.
Maybe you don't have to play for the kills.
They're probably like the best Kato team like they're slowly like ranking up to like how you saw GH Kato like many years ago
I think it's slowly how I'm starting to see Ari Kato
I don't know if it's like individual skill on the hero is like on par
But how they play it together as a unit they do it the best out of any team right now
So my question is what's the other hero that they play with I mean ember is a pretty obvious one
But I think you'd be more likely to 18 pick that right otherwise
I think so you're the risk of getting countered that you could look for the like just your white one hero here
Bane all right. Well, that is interesting
Yeah, that's very interesting because
SD is quite good against Bane if you're talking like fiend's grip, you know one-to-one counter
But I think Bane is more played as like a map hero now where you're running around and
Playing centuries and camps and abusing your like extra night vision
stealing wisdom shrines, things like that.
Five seconds remaining.
Okay, I mean, it is...
Yeah, I don't know exactly how the lingles, but like you said, ST has a lot of purpose, at least for now in this game,
so 400, I think it's also nice if you find even more heroes that like jump into the backline,
whether it's a storm or you already like mentioned the Ember to kind of like help, you know, for this matchup.
And already, if I'm looking at Liquid, heroes that build Lotus and Linkens are like insane value,
just from seeing these three yeah solar bind you have bad writer you can reflect
the last so you can reflect the grip so like heroes that naturally buy these
should definitely like go up right now which to be fair is a lot of aces hero
pool you know centaur is more than happy to play for a lotus timing tide hunter
same thing like lotus is totally fine on these heroes we sent her is something I
could see. Centaur SD is pretty good. Yeah because like maybe the tide you can
because I just think you get Ursa. Unless you feel like the Ursa I don't care
about because we have SD who can like cover it because you have Windranger, you
have the SD purge and like maybe that's enough. What about maybe like SD invoker?
I mean they have 24 pick so maybe instead you pick the offlaner here. I do
like the idea of I love SD plus Centaur and Invoker it's so much damage.
It's also overall I mean I think Tofu doesn't play that many melee heroes but
it's also a pretty good clockwork game like when I see Caudal, Bane, I think
something to like interrupt or like be slightly annoying is good. I mean I guess
there's always the world where Tofu can play the SD in the off lane and then
Voxy plays you know the melee guy in the safe lane. They have done that many
times so kind of need to see how they go about that because also tundra you kind of understanding
like earlier we saw this like anti-mage band into medusa pig where now you have the caudal you know
that this 18 is very likely to be the storm or the ember or like insert the tapas this is very
interesting and senia may have left the team but you know they still pick oracle in his name
Yeah, I mean it's a it's a very interesting pick. They've the double save from the two supports
Of course, it's very good against Batrider. You can purge the sticky napalm in lane and they're doubling down on like all of the single target
That you mentioned Kezu you said like okay, they need a Lotus buyer. Why not just straight up like remove
Everything that's true with the with the false for with the the ulti and also you see a caudal
So you know some mid laner like spirit type heroes coming out who wants to get runes and you now know where all the runes are
Gonna spawn and you can win you can win the rune fight. So it's it's very good on multiple levels here
Okay, it is very very interesting. I guess also like Carter
He's not really a lane dominator and Oracle usually sucks in the lane
So you kind of getting through that as well. I think the point you mentioned about the runes
I mean, it's nearly forgotten because we never see this hero like Oracle is barely ever picked in competitive games
I will say I do think you're opening your like both your supports
They don't want to be jumped it is common that supports have this like attribute to them
But I think there's like very high value in the heroes we already mentioned that thunder should already naturally be looking for
Sir way, okay. Yeah, I was thinking void spear
Like pick void spirit and then ban out the heroes that you think really dumpster the hero because you mentioned the backline jumping
I don't even think you necessarily need to kill the backline. You just need to silence them in an aoe
That's true, and you're good like obviously puck would it be insane, but the hero is always getting banned these days
So like the other option for that the aoe backline jumping silence is avoid spirit
Interesting I mean both things are also quite low when it comes to reserve time. They have like 20 seconds each
I mean thunder need to carry out of phase
some type of DPS would be nice like also when you play Batrider when you play
Bane especially against saves you want to like have us like a short time right
you drag some guy in and you hope this guy gets shot out of the game like in
within two or three seconds right now Tundra's follow-up damage it's not
really that high they they have to ban Huskar right for Tundra there's there's
no way they leave Huskar in the box oh they Huskar or they will ban it against
Void Spirit, you can't do that.
No, for sure.
For Tundra, what I could see is a... I think Muerta could be quite good.
I think Bane Muerta lane is overall pretty good.
I like the matchup into Windranger.
I mean, of course, you know, Liquid, they can play on you,
and they can collapse on your lane and whatnot.
But you have to find a hero that does give you, like,
I would say, more follow-up damage and decent matchups.
At least when you play like into SD Windranger, it's not super easy to find.
And for Liquid, yeah, you mentioned the Husker, I do feel like, yeah.
That would have been crazy.
That would have been criminal.
Yeah.
Disrespectful, if you will.
I mean, now I could still see.
I feel like Nisha has dabbled with like a Slardar overall, that's something I could see.
Of course, it depends on what Tundra also show you on the 23rd pick, but like slowing down
a little bit what Tundra have or like what they can do with the voidsford and also you
have the two supports they need to be allowed to stay in the back and have cores that they
can play off of so like heroes that go in for you that enjoy staying in the fight so
that's something that could definitely work for them.
I mean can Tundra find another cheese?
They showed us was it Mipo in game one and Huskar in game two I don't know if you can
find something as disgusting three games in a row.
23 pick when you're playing against last pick pretty damn hard. It's hard from this situation
the take out the
the lady
And you have bane in the lane, so you're quite I mean your lane is overall good
I'm just thinking of like all the matchups. I think
Some of the other heroes you're looking for like some of the melee guys are not easy to pick just because you're covered by SD and Windranger
Void is greedy, I don't like, Ursa might be something they think about but I don't love
it to be honest.
Like a ranged hero that buys BKB and maybe MKB later is something that I have in mind
but I can't pinpoint it to one.
That is very interesting.
Not a huge fan.
Why's that?
I'll show you working.
I just don't, I really...
I think it's Slardar pick, just sorry to chime in for a moment.
I really like Parker on the ranged heroes. I really do. I mean, Caudal Bristle I guess?
Yeah, like...
They have that going for them?
You have to sustain and like you can run in. That's also like the biggest point that I can see, like in a way.
And you're playing into two supports that are low damage, at least for the start.
But if this game drags out and SD gets an agonist, obviously the Bristol Max game gets
kind of cooked on the spot, if the game does drag.
But it looks like the Tundra value, being able to go in and the high sustain, they showed
us earlier with this Meeple Cotto, I think that's something that they value.
Also this cool, holy, locket target that Ari rushes on the Cotto to give to the other
guy.
But also, Bristol into Mars is also, it's not good, because when you pin him, he gets
turned to you.
So you already have that going for you as well.
I think it's interesting and I think it has a lot to do with the synergy of the call of Bristleback.
Parker has a 37% win rate with Bristleback.
He's played it 24 times in his pubs.
It just doesn't screen to me like Parker hero.
I don't know, maybe he's been practicing it a lot lately.
That's possible, like this data is from before they like locked the high rank pubs.
Well, that's what we've been talking about.
There's two types of tundra draft, right?
Just the type of draft where they take the four and they say Parker you got a Parker Island
Right, and you farm and then we'll see you come visit us when we're ready to win the game
Or there's a draft like this where they say to Parker you've got to do stuff for us
Like you're not gonna be the guy that wins the game. You've got to do things for the team. So I don't know
It's it's kind of get behind you like they're gonna play through BGM in 33 and Batrider
Mm-hmm and Parker can just kind of run in and die. I think that's fine
No, I think so too. I have faith in liquid drafts. I feel like they've dealt this one.
Okay, we'll see. We can throw you over to Slaxi's with Blitz to ask those very questions.
Throw it over and I'll catch it, baby. We are here with Blitz's Dota of Team Liquid Blitz.
Good to see you again. These guys are stealing your shit. Your iconic Bristleback.
We won't worry about game one. Your iconic Bristleback Team Liquid pick, and they're gonna steal it from you. What's up with that?
It's pretty messed up. I mean it lost though, so like hopefully same results for them
Okay, all right fantastic now the panel has been glazing Parker and his arranged carry stuff
And they say that there's no way he can win with a melee carry
Do you believe that players are so easily put into these little boxes? Yeah, I think people a bit too much sometimes
Why are you laughing about you just said yeah, that was a ridiculous statement. Yeah, you think that players really can be put in a
Tiny little boxes. Yeah, of course
Well you said people do it too much. Yeah, you got to let him shine, you know, and he's a king
Fair enough. Who's the king on your team?
I think it's probably Nisha. I think he's probably like the most king-like. He has the most like demands
So, you know, but he just wants to ball with his bro. So okay. Well, I asked you, please don't dance
But during the interview, what is your greatest move that you can do?
Nothing I can show you on stream. Come on. You can get a dirty go. If you twerk off
Yeah, let's go go you first you first
Well, okay you back so that we can't see each other. All right, let's go
Don't leave you said I whatever let's twerk into the game here. Thanks
We're gonna back it up in the game number three and see which team comes out on top
LaCoste, you're looking at some of these drafts and you see now a Bane, you see an Oracle, is this
the right moves for both these teams? I mean clearly it can't be just one has to win but which do
you like more? I do prefer Liquid's draft. I think the heroes that they do have on their sides,
especially the support duo, they're playing into hero. I think one of the worst, if not the worst
matchup for Keeper of the Light as a support duo is Mars, Mars and Storm. Being able to get the
initial jump because he wants to keep the distance, he wants to get the blast going, use Chakra Magic
on his allies and the Void for it's a very good candidate to get that Chakra Magic because he
has three abilities that he does love to use, lower the cooldown pretty similar to what Ember
Spirit does but also allows him to play more active and we'll see how that one's gonna go. So
So for now, BZM doing a pretty good job in this mid lane, sitting at 5-2, trying to put some pressure on Tanisha,
which does mean absolutely nothing, considering how well Nisha managed to recover in the previous game.
That's what I was curious about, you know, you give him no lane and he has an amazing game.
Now, he's going to match up that should be better than the last, I would assume.
And I guess we'll have to see what he's able to accomplish from there.
You're constantly seeing these shackles come out and hitting on to 33 on this Batrider.
And now dealing with Tofu, following it up with a Fortune's End, but Micae trying to use the Tagged Facet,
trying to do as much as he can to the Batrider.
You usually see these Batriders go like boots of bearing early on.
What are you expecting with a lineup here that has both the Bristle as well as the Batrider?
Probably going to be the same thing, boots of bearing and pipe.
There's a good amount of magic damage on their side.
Even though, when you think about it, there's a lot of counters to those boots of bearing.
Here is Arena, there is Oracle Q, there is Shadow Demon Alti.
Make sure to use it afterwards.
And also, Team Liquid's lineup, it's a very bursty lineup.
For Mars, he goes in with the arena, Windranger, Storm Spirit damage as well, compared to Tundra's lineup.
I'm not a biggest fan of Batrider in the game, where you can't really blow up the heroes.
Keeper of the Light, his damage is not bursty, Bane, he needs a little bit more time with
the fiend's grip, same goes for Brestleback, so they might be running into an issue where
they aren't able to kill the heroes, especially because you're playing into two saving supports.
Yeah, if you don't get that burst, there's going to be a false promise or disruption
that's able to get the save, and that makes your last of life harder as well, and I really
worry about where this Batrider is going to be as this game kind of goes on, and that
Chaco connects, party on the run, but sitting pretty low and purifying flames, Tofu gets
the kill, claims that first blood on the Keeper of the Life.
A good start for them, and they're also going to be picking up the Lotus.
Like that's going to be one for one trade.
This is a tough lane up top for Tundra, at least based on what I've been seeing the last
three minutes.
Batrider into Oracle is always going to be difficult and even Keeper of the Light, one point in Fade Seedict.
You have a Dispel mechanic as well, that'd be very difficult for this Batrider to achieve what the hero is supposed to achieve.
Especially at these early levels, but this is also one of the best heroes that creeps get.
You can always go on the other side of the map, pull the creep wave, farm the neutral camps as well.
Once he picks up those boots and gets tranquil, so we might see 33 trying to do the same thing, especially if the lane is going to be held underneath the tower for Team Liquid.
Boxy, they can move, but unable to get the rune. Museum will replenish that bottle.
It gets a couple of sips. Doesn't want to jump, Boxy doesn't quite have the levels to do so, but Whitemon's just going to continue right quick.
as Parker, diving the tier one tower, just get the salvo for Ace. Parker had a really
amazing game number one, but they focused him a lot in game two and shut him down hard
after they knew that BZM wasn't going to be as much of a problem coming out of mid. They
even, this was more for recovery, but also double edged, where they had Nisha level four,
Tiny comes bottom, gets the kill on a Parker, so not only do you get that recovery, but
you also shut down his game that much as well, but now in a situation like this where he's
bristleback, he's a little bit more tanky in the early parts of this game, he will still
need to be careful against Mars later on, but what's really the ideal start for Parker?
Just got some stacks going in the triangle, probably his mathriders is gonna be stealing
some of those stacks, and there's also a camp that is blocked in the triangle, the big one
Oxy
Did plant observe award inside?
I'm sure if there was a mistake or if they ran out of centuries, but that's one
Let's see. It's not gonna get the awarded. So no extra gold in the triangle for them
personal back is also
Not a hero that plays well from behind even though it's in his name. It says it does but
You want to be the one controlling the tempo of the game because later on you can like be very annoying
There's also you're playing into Mars so spear will always turn you whenever you use it ace
And they want to go and get this Mars discus nasal to misses the spear
Gods are buke, but this goons a problem blood grenade connects and
There should be you rose shoe is gonna just take the kill
All that chase for Roche to get it
Missing out on the XP in the bottom gold blood grenade has been used
nice and done by Ace, 33, starting the creepscape, trying to make a lane for himself, could have
also used lane because Batrider's voice lines, that was lane. They have been blocking all these
camps in the triangle by the way, they placed another sentry on the big camp and I think that
Ops was on purpose because I looked at the timings on the sentries and it looked like they just went
to block every single camp and they have been trying to shut down that triangle the entire time
and they've done so successful. Right now they've got one ancient camp that has finally spawned
because that OBS I believe ran out. It might open back up. Still not going to be so easy.
As we now hit the seven-minute Mark-Cottle, you don't want to go and get that shrine. You've got
the Shadow Demon getting the other one. There's not going to be a contest for this. But early on
Liquid, you see how it's already flashing to the 2k net worth lead and it is not looking like it's
It's gonna be too easy for Tundra, coming into the big game.
Yeah, it definitely needs to be Void Spirit.
BGM needs to have a good game right now, sitting at 39, oh sorry, 32 CS and 9 good eyes.
Well, that Parker, God's Rebuke, pushing him back.
We've got Tofu here, and Parker will eventually die while in the top lane, they're going for 33.
The Astro-7, the Aether, and it connects.
Tofu trying to do all he can to get the save out of the Mars, and they're able to land that spear on the Void Spirit.
They get the kill in a 33, and this is just utter domination so far from Liquid in all three lanes.
A bit of a slower lineup, I think.
Pretty similar, the way their draft was in game number two,
where they had Midlaner that is pretty static this time around.
They have an active Midlaner, but the safe lane and the off lane is kind of the same,
and also the support duo doesn't have that much synergy together.
So it seems to be Caudal playing with the voice print, lowering the cooldown to try to make something happen.
Void Spirit's also a bit of a nefron, you know, his damage output isn't really as high,
and if he, like compared to, let's say, Storm Spirit, then if he also uses Double Step,
he puts himself in a spot where he just might die.
Yeah, Double Step in to a potential save, and then a Spear follow-up, or a ball-aining.
Honestly, everything. Spear follow-up, a Vortex pull-in, or a Shackle that connects.
it is just it's so risky to make that full commitment from Tundra there are
still of course gonna go to the drums but the food sparing you're gonna get
them but it's still gonna feel like you said earlier tough to kind of time them
right on the activation you can see already 33 and the void spirit just
struggling to find farm they want Parker again amplified damage source for it
coming in, they also have arena.
Make the lane on it as long as they want. There's nobody coming over to save Parker.
Take this here as well. This is Team Liquid's classic.
They know how to connect on a target at the same time.
This Twin Gate rotation, something that Nikkei really loves to use,
goes back to the top lane immediately.
Also, big fan, I think, I've been talking about this facet,
even overall a better facet on Mars, especially when you have explosive damage,
Explosive damage when you have ways of killing people inside of the arena. You have storm you have
Focus fire, of course
Which doesn't allow it to get the burst of heal allows you to get extra bit of damage BCM
Well, you're gonna difference out of the map trying to steal some of the stacks
There's some of that thought where maybe
The other fast it would have been good for Mars because they have the Bane and they have that save available to them
But I just think I agree with you that burst damage is gonna be too much for Bane to really handle
He's got to be really on it, and they also trust this Mars to really find the best arena they can work with.
In Bezruin, down at the ground, they'll get some damage out of Oxy, but Tofu's here and ready to save Shackles Connect on it too.
Waiman did with Power Shot that comes in from Mika, they've got the Vortex pulling an Aria, and he's got to get out of town, but it's in a body bag.
You should get that kill, and getting the Coddle, it's 7-0 for Liquid. They just can't find 8 kill on Tundra.
This is what they talked about their damage is a bit of damage over time not enough burst damage to support staking care of each other
And again, Nikkei being active. He's set a mid lane and holding five out of seven kills playing with the catapult
EZM afraid to use that second astral step just in case doesn't want to put himself in a spot where he dies
Even after he gets the kill not really worth it
Coming down to that
11-12, nearing map 14 minutes, second shrine, and all the advantages are here for Liquid.
Haven't broken through the first lane of racks yet, except for bottom, so there is more of that map open.
But if they do focus on top and get that tower down, maybe they can go and steal that shrine, as obviously that's a little bit later on.
They're still so willing to just be farming, and Mikkei, who's come over towards bot, he's been everywhere.
where there's a very mobile hero, it doesn't have to stay stationary, especially when it's got a leader, like this.
You can just kind of move over and try to join in on these fights and on these kills.
And in doing so, he's put himself at 6300 net worth at this point again.
Insane amount of harm that he does have.
level not almost level 10 compared to bristleback who's level 9 about to crack
level 9 but still the difference is pretty massive okay is gonna smoke up
scan and connect BZM all minute through
Smoot and BZM able to get some distance but Nisha looking ready ball lightning
and the vortex ether ending connects onto each other they're gonna wipe on it
Now they'll look over at Ari.
EZM off to the side, so we're buying on Ace.
They're behind this tier one tower
that eliminates arm landing,
but Boxy is also here with Tofu.
Tofu now level six, he does have that false promise.
Gonna be even difficult to grab the kill.
Again, their damage is pretty low at the moment.
Two supports, they don't have that much damage
between each other.
And Bristol back, plus Batrider, they continue to farm up.
Also I see Parker trying to go for Lincolns as his first item.
There's a lot of ways of breaking the Lincolns pretty much every single hero.
Does have ability.
Mars doesn't, but he will build into Yule Scepter as his first item, so that's also
going to be something to break that Lincolns.
You're not giving me hope on the value.
Definitely not. I think he's afraid of demonic purge and he's afraid of focus fire. 33. You got so many
But there's the disruption to get that saved 33
nightmare
Saving 33 for a second the spirit isn't connected anything up the side with the arena is down now
They get the kill to 33 BCM jumps in ace within the arena
Not really bothered by what this void spirit is
thrown at them
tofu's gonna heal up mickey and
14 minutes into the game, the word kill is not in the lexicon of Tundra's vocabulary,
and this is...
I think they gotta find something eventually.
They're not down a miserable amount, 4,000 is certainly a substantial amount at 14 minutes,
but it's still doable.
Everything is possible, especially if you lie, but 4K is not as much.
They're in a lot of trouble, I would say. Their heroes' ways of starting a fight is also going to be the issue.
Batrider can pop the bongo boots, maybe get the lasso, but again, damage that they have during lasso, it's still not there.
Again, multiple supports that they have on Liquid can just break the combo with the disruption with Oracle ulti, BZM leading the charge.
That's for step, 8th Remnant lands. Tofu's here though.
It gives them enough time for Liquid to react to whatever Tundra wants to do.
33.
Spear, Parker, Caught, Trouble, Vortex pulling him in. Parker is not likely to get away.
Sorbine on Ace. They finally got a kill. They're on the board, they killed off Tofu.
He had false promise himself, but it didn't matter.
They were able to stick on him. Nobody else was really in the vicinity because they've got themselves the Windranger and the Shadow Demon top.
I like how Liquid is playing. They have one support sitting behind one core, knowing that if they get initiated on by a Batrider, they have save available.
Same goes for Bane, so both of the supports... Bane's not gonna have a good time.
First of all, he's playing into Mars, even Caudal, and then Fiend's Grip.
Let's see how they're going to approach it.
And the spear.
Off-gainer's full.
Off-gainer's full.
BZM to similate, trying to get away.
Top lane's also got a fight going on.
It's at the same moment while they try to chase BZM.
They're getting the kill over bottom and now they're going to look towards top.
They go to the feed script that lands out of the shadow team and they double up on their kills.
This is now 11-2.
Shackle hits on a 33.
The chase is on to try and get Tofu and Ormickay.
They want to get this winranger, but they can't commit with the focus fire now on the 33.
He's taking a lot of damage here.
A power shot looking for it lands, not enough damage, long grenade from a distance is short.
But it does hit on the white line, Shackles no connect on the back, they get the kill out of the bane anyway.
Dominating for Mikkei and Liquid continuing to raise this net worth leading to a couple of kills as they go from bottom to top.
And continue to make Tundra pay for their lack of net worth.
Parker, aww, I think it's a fortunate spear miss from Ace.
It's a bit of start of a duel to spell that haste and then you find an angle.
Not sure if he would die there, you're gonna turn him around, the rest of the team was
relatively close by, but so was Mikkei.
Maybe with the result in getting that kill, Liquid, as you said, getting more and more
net worth over the time, EZM's damage output has been very limited.
Yeah, this has been a newer trend on Void Spirit in the mid lane, instead of going for
Spirit's Vessel instead of going for Agadamn Scepter, Tanks Boots, Urn, just for extra
bit of stats and extra bit of a kill threat, and then picking up Shard and then going for
Kaia, which also allows you to one-shot the Creek Wave, helpful.
If there are any connects, alone, Passvalp's promise never has a chance to use it.
These are the moments that they need to kind of cut into the net worth lead that Liquid
have and I know I was coping with the 4k 5k at that point is not that much and
I'm you know I'm sorry it's solo but they told me to put the mask on first
before helping your roa neighbor so the mask came down I put it on and oxygen is
flowing through freely or copium in this case and 6k it's it's it's just
getting worse and worse. This is a win ranger that has not been bothered in this game at
all and is doing a lot to Tundra. And 85-15, I know the mask is on for me with the copium,
but man that is, it feels generous a little bit with the way these fights are going.
Yeah, it feels difficult for them to take a fight. 33,000 have a blink dagger. So I want
Once he tracks them and what he's gonna be dragging into what kind of damage supports right now
They don't have blink daggers yet, but eventually
Maybe with the cast range and 33
That's when count quick fingers
It was over to get some lotuses there too
Do you have a box you listen in so guys get your ears open. Let's take a listen
They have map and we have a gigapen for
Okay, giga team fights. Where does that rank? Mega team fights, giga team fights, towards the top, right?
It's arena, it's a lot of saves and they also have the burst damage, Ace. Doesn't have the blink dagger yet.
Even though he does have tumblr's toy with the phase group and dual separate, so he can't start a fight,
but free blink dagger, it might need to be storm spirit going in.
So when Nisha's having a blast of the game as well, almost every single rune besides
that haste does belong to him.
You saw Nisha and Nolane, now you've seen Nisha and Winlane, and both have been really
impressive.
You get a kill on Ari, Nikkei just chasing down this Coddle.
run is faster than horse in this game of what is quicker this also might not
reveal the word that they just placed observe a word from tofu
BGM he's jumped twice he's added jumps aether in the connects but the shackles
are there power shots in miss but not gonna matter 33 jumps in but the ULs
from ace the arena it's down they'll get the kill they'll have that feast after a
victory and look for more the chase for white man is on Misha he's got a
another one he's unstoppable three heroes dead on the side of tundra
technically four because kato had died right before that engagement respond as
it was going on and liquid still successful at every area of the map
they try to use the bristle themselves and so far it's not working he doesn't
feel too comfortable coming into the fight this is the birth that he did by
It's not going to be turning to anything. You'd have that link with Lincoln's instead opted to go for SNY
This is going to be a region item for him. Maybe he updates it later
But as we said Lincoln's over the heel. He still has good amount of man after work with
Solar Bound does want to stick around
And with this invisibility he's hoping to not be found
But he gets in close
Maybe he can take a pound and cut off everything that Tundra has and get home safe and sound.
In case he's deeping in, they want to take this fight. Ace, Lintdager all the courier. No worry enough for 15.
Blinding in, three heroes, Esha, not a lot of matter, but Ari, he's going to be the one
they see.
Shaco's no connect, Jules from ace, that's Whitemon in trouble, but the nightmare, quick,
Quickfinger is there to stop the spear from coming in, he'll blink in front of him and
get the spear back.
They got the kill on Ari, they'll look over at Whitemon, that's going to be two more kills
for the side of Liquid.
So they continue to just find success and never punished.
Thundra, still not fight ready.
They don't have enough tools, they don't have enough damage, trying to split the map, get as much farm as possible.
33 with the blink dagger, working towards his BKB, and Parker finally has his one item, that's SNY.
But it doesn't feel like he's ever going to be able to heal the damage. Like, they have good ways of kiting him.
Not so much lockdown either.
Jules, on the blink, they've got the setup, spear back to the tower, the control, they'll have the vortex after that runs out, that's another kill on a BZM.
There's a 10,000 net worth lead here for Liquid, still no answers, and you were talking about how Bristle doesn't feel fight ready, I just, he's an item, two items behind.
I don't know if there's ever gonna, as long as Liquid are mean to him.
He can jump through to that three, doesn't feel like he'll ever fight that moment to fight.
But I say that, now they're gonna try and go for it.
The damage from Mika, he's gotta help with Foxy to get the kill.
The Shackle ends again, it's up at 33.
The Power Shot, Foxy dead to Parker, but they're gonna look over for this Manta Ray,
this Batrider trying to run.
Parker yulest up, he's gonna be controlled, the Spear connects, down go four,
Mika to fifth, the Shackles are there.
Parker, well, you can park his life and his body right there in the jungle,
because he ain't going anywhere.
They just don't have enough. They managed to kill one support.
Again, during Lasso, they have so many tools of kiting with the disruption,
with Oracle, Altif, Necessary, Tofu didn't even use it.
There was a disruption, and then Miki comes in, lands a couple of really good shackles.
They're gonna be able to clean up one more time.
Bottom tier two getting pressured.
with no answer of course because so many heroes are dead but the nightmare comes
in white mod looking to defend for a second but the quick power shot to get
an idea of where he's going no they accept ace and tofu in the area to help
him out so ace jumps in gets the kill the tier two is gonna be glyph but right
afterwards it should be dead outranging the tower so it won't even hit back
Lincoln's for Micke that should keep him safe against the potential lasso
and honestly if they have the disruption saved they have the false promise anyway
but why not make it happen yourself so you can save those for potential real danger
if they don't get that lasso, they don't have much to go with it
It's gonna be double Lincoln's storm also building into one
About the finisher actually needs another 500 gold
Micke has his, needs to use the courier
BZM, oh boy, gotta line up the shackle on that singular tree, but he'll go into the similate.
Now the shackle comes down to the liner and they think, there's the lasso.
Do they have the save?
Ashes pass going across, Boxy looking like he's gonna die here.
BZM gets the kill, but the focus fire on the 33, the power shot off the mark.
There's a lot of heroes here for Tundra.
They finally get the kill out of Parker though, that's happening bottom at the same time.
They pop the link, it's on Micae that just got delivered.
Nightmare, Mikay, Tofu, coming over to try and maybe stop this TP, well with the Fortune 10, they go to the ULZ, it's on the Auri, they'll have the spear to follow it up, that also lands out of the mean, so that hits two, they'll get the kill on the bolt, as they finish them off with the God's Rebuke.
They got Parker bottom with the Storm as well as the Mars, and everything else went their way up in the top lane at the same time.
You know, when there's a fight happening on two different sides of the map and you're losing the fight, something is really off.
They just don't have enough damage at the moment to kill any of these heroes. Two supports are doing way too much.
He's gonna go behind, try to get some extra farm. Still very far away from his agonim center.
in the second of center.
Micky, just continuing to push. There's no reason to stop.
Look at the hero damage numbers, especially from the Windranger and the storm.
Topping the list, doubling so many of these other heroes on the side of Tundra.
Yet to have an answer. Get to have a real answer.
Talked about how Bristle continues to feel in item number two behind.
And he's going for a BKB, but he's also getting chased.
Nisha is here just kind of toying with them.
Those that white ones in the area has Boxy coming to help.
Nightmare is going to be put onto Nisha, pulled off by this Shadow Team.
And they get the kill out of the bait.
Nisha is playing with his food.
Another Nisha show, and they also find another one.
Ari, I get a few supports.
They hate to play into Stormsburg.
They hate to play into Mars.
And they are on the hunt. They're going for the high ground.
Horsing the Gleaf out of Tundra.
This has been a tough game for Tundra across the board.
Only 5 kills to this point. They're about to lose their mid-set of racks.
Just 26 minutes into the game.
Backdoor kicks in.
Trying to beat it. Also have creeps coming.
so you don't have to leave all too quickly.
And as he just will expire in five seconds,
they're not gonna be able to jump, unfortunately,
in Technician's Life after he loses that.
Just, Ag's commitment from 33,
so he's trying to get the lockdown on the two heroes,
hoping that maybe with the lockdown on an extra hero,
maybe somebody who's a little bit close,
like the Oracle, they can go and get something from it.
That's a good thinking.
Trying to maybe snatch somebody else,
but still the damage, like,
Even if he tracks them, what is he dragging them into?
Priscilla back damage is very static, Void Spirit, he desperately needs that axe.
Speaking of Void Spirit, BZM again.
Dead.
Beyond God like, Fornisha still.
33, he wants to jump.
He's like, two heroes just showed, we have maybe couple of seconds to get to drag back.
Parker gets caught.
Up in the high ground, the Shackles are there, what am I trying to save him in?
They're gonna do so much damage onto the Bristleback, but they go to the Vortex, it's gonna be on the Auri.
They don't get the kill on the Parker just yet, but the ball lightning from Nisha continuing on forward.
They land the shackle, the nightmare is there, it's onto the Batrider.
They get the power shot that lands on a Whitemon. It's a double kill for Nisha.
They get the kill on the 33. The only one around is Parker.
And from game one, when he looks like Peter Parker from any other part of the movie franchise,
other than what he looks like now, when Thanos has snapped his finger and he turns the dust.
Spoilers, you forgot to say spoiler alert.
Spoiler alert!
He didn't want to go.
Sorry, 10 year old movie.
They're going to try one more time, probably see what's going to happen if they get the initiation with the flaming lasso, if they lose that fight.
They're going to drop the Gs in the old chat.
If they get a kill on these heroes on liquid, maybe you could be dropping the Gs because it's going to be a thousand plus gold per hero.
Almost there, but it does not feel as though that's gonna be the case.
This has been a beatdown.
You finished your lincoln's and bristleback? Shadow Demon does have his axe.
Two charges on demonic purge with the break mechanic.
BGM, forced it to simulate.
Just trying to survive and so is Oracle because he's got an aon disk.
Winkins popped arena down, Spear connects on a 33 white line in trouble, they get a kill there onto the bay and that's going to be 1.
33 is going to be found and he is going to get that lasso onto 2, but it doesn't matter, he's dead.
Thanks to this windranger, jumping in his BZM and he'll focus at least for a moment on Denisha.
Zadamata will back away for a second, but Parker's going to be locked up, they got the Spear, they have him facing the right direction to get the kill.
to get the kill, they'll break him.
Gigi is called Liquid.
Absolute obliteration of Tundra.
And they finish this series with a victory.
Man, again, another Disha show, another Mikkei show,
and Ace also shining on Mars.
I know that's his Mars.
Maybe got some critics about how he played,
but this game, absolute domination.
Like he was all over the place getting the spears,
getting the catch every single time.
Absolute perfection off execution
of this draft from Liquid.
Yeah, really well done and we're for the last time tonight going to throw it over to rich and the boys.
Yeah, thanks a lot. So as we did say, Liquid, they can come back in the series when they're behind.
I do want to say this though, while Liquid won't be disappointed, I'm a little bit disappointed.
You know, this is, we are, this is Tundra with the standing, sure, but it's still Tundra.
This is a tournament winning team and there was some cool drafts and some heroes we didn't see before,
But we got three one-sided stompy games, which is always...
...wrecked.
It's like the type of series where you expect that at least one or maybe even two of the games, you know,
both teams get to like show their A-game and like they battle it out.
But like you said, all three games were incredibly one-sided.
And I will say that Liquid, again, just like in game two, I think they played very well.
They had stable lanes, their rotations are on point.
They had all the runes like Jenkins mentioned, you know, you have the Oracle with the innate.
But there are definitely some things that I question, like this last pick, BB.
You know people like making fun of Parker, but I think his hero pick it might not even be his decision
I think it's just ass in this game. Yeah playing DB into Mars is not easy. Oh that reserved time
They feel like it took ages and then it's just like with the SD like I mean the game was already over but
Boxing it like a 25 minute agonist like you're not gonna play build at this game, brother
Yeah, I mean I will say on the flip side liquid looks informed. Oh, yeah, they were
So fast with all of their rotations. They had
Nick a go through the portal and kill Parker bot, but it wasn't just to kill on Parker
it was right after he had gotten killed earlier by ace already and
He tipi back in and he didn't have port after that
So he he stuck like walking to lane liquid gets the bot tower. It's
They just have these reeds sometime where it's like
There's a play that they can make that maybe is like a little higher risk
and you have to execute, but it would be so devastating if they pull it off and like these guys always go for that
If they can do something to like make you feel
miserable by taking some sort of action
They always take the action which I think is really cool. It also means you can have like game one where they get stomped
If this is not happening
It means they're quite a polarizing team
But when they do win they look so many leagues above the other teams that they play against and I
I really feel like a lot of that is through Mickey. Yes, like this guy also
I love how this guy plays Windranger you have no one else that goes for the tangled fester button still max's power shot
So while doing well in his lane also, I think his itemization this game is like absolutely flawless
He is in all the moves you mentioned, you know, he goes through the gate in other games
He played in this tournament. He's like he's gonna TP mid minute six with level three power shot every other windranger
They're doing their stupid three levels and shackle three levels and windrun. I'm in my lane
I you know shackled the wave I farmed but this guy he's so open. He's everywhere liquid
They look insane. They look by far the best like team in the tournament that I've seen so far. He did in
33 in these games like this was too like a few times during the series. We were watching and just like what that
When he brings the creep wave mid at like 540 and yeah
Well at 4 540 in this game. He was like we're was he going for the room like is this how bad his situation was he had to
do that but this is Mickey let's hold it we're going to go over the slacks for the winners
in a minute not now not now just baby they've told me now that's sometimes you have to
do me that's my bad I got paid I didn't I didn't emergency throw I thought you're going
to go we do we have Mickey actually yeah no are we getting me okay well we're not throwing
the band you will throw back to the segment these guys now we're now we've got Mickey
No, we're still not ready. No, Richard, take it. No, I'm just kidding. Hey, we have Mickey, so good to see you, Mickey. Congratulations on your victory. Incredible work there, man. I mean, that last game was, wasn't even like a game, no offense. Is that how it felt?
Yeah, it felt quite easy from draft and preparation alone, so it was just a play.
Fair enough. No, I did want to talk to you about the series. As we know, this kind of rivalry between you and Tundra in a little bit, and it was very stompy.
Stompy every single game was kind of like these guys are winning and then they win
Were you expecting it to be like that or were you expecting kind of more of a fight?
I mean, it's not fair to say because they have a stand-in. So it's a bit difficult for them, of course
So I don't know. It's it's weird. Yeah, absolutely
We're what do you think made those situations happen like that in those games? Was it drafting? Was it play?
Was it understanding of the meta?
I would say mostly drafting. I think we had a great draft 2 and 3. Game 1 I think it was good too, we just messed up level 1 and we got cooped for it.
Who would you like to blame for that draft on the game that you guys lost? Who made that decision?
I would say Blitz.
Absolutely. Isn't it atrocious when he does that?
It's always Blitz when we lose and if we win, there's no credit to Blitz. So you know, double that.
Absolutely, as it always is. Alright, alright. Don't come into the interview, no hugging.
We don't want to see that shit here. This is a post game interview.
He knows I'm joking, so that's very kind of you.
Alright, he left the room. That guy sucked.
I have a rule that every time I discredit him, I have to hug him.
So I can discredit him as much as I want as long as I hug him.
Fantastic. Alright, that's a very good rule. You guys have a lot of rules, right?
You have like a pubbing rule now, you have a hugging rule now.
now. Yeah. Yeah. Are there any other rules that we don't know from the team liquid squad?
Not yet, but I'll tell you next interview if there's another rule come out. Okay. Good
to know. Good to know. So you guys are unanimously regarded as the toughest team at the tournament,
not just because of your skill, but because you guys are standing list, right? You're
at full power. So in that, you know, sense, do you feel like you guys are by far better
than anybody else, or are there any teams that you're looking at that are pretty good?
No, I think Team Spirit probably better, because they kind of beat us in scrims all the time.
So in practice, we always lose to Team Spirit. So I would say it's them or us, I guess.
Okay, it's them or you. Well, we've seen that matchup before.
It was an absolute blast to see, and hopefully we'll be able to see it again.
Any words out there to the Team Liquid loyalists that are always supporting you guys?
I mean, how of a series to watch?
Shout out to monster. It kept me going for the series because I was really tired. So yeah, shout out monster energy
Bring that old Insania vibes back great sell out
Thank you so much for doing that and I'll sell out for my career with PGO Wallachia
Let's bring it back to Richard Lewis Richard. Please hire me for the next one too. I
Am of course making all hiring decisions on PGL in my capacity as you fall
That, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's it.
It's all gone apart at the end of the thing.
That interview was almost as K.O.K. as my throw to the interview.
So, I know it's great.
I love, I love Mk.
It's great that they're all like laughing, mood high, you know, they've all been,
I disagree with him saying they had two good draft sides and think they were
out drafted in the first game.
I'm down, I'm down for that drafting game too.
You know, while it is like maybe up in the air, I think to me it's like a bit of
the, like, gameplay wise.
I think I was missing like BGM in game two and game three, at least a little bit.
I think he had matchups where it's just like this type of thing, you know,
you don't expect 100 to like go down without a fight.
And like Mickey said, you have a stand in, you can't really take it face value.
Yeah, that was nice and humble from him.
Yeah, he's a nice guy.
No, it really was very magnanimous of him to say all that.
But I mean, look, the reality is Team Liquid, Mickey and Nisha as a double act.
It's terrifying.
It really is to play against.
Yeah, I think the trio, I think Mickey, Boxie, they have something, nothing against it.
Yeah, we obviously they've we love you. Okay, they've slotted into really good
That's what's so interesting about this team
It's like they've slotted into two really stable guys from GG when they were so dominant where it's like
Stability is king. That's how they're gonna win every single tournament in a year beat liquid and all the grand finals
But then they have that extra
spice that extra flair of the the original trio of liquid and you just have this
Very damn solid team like championship quality team. It's quite nice to see and I think also
You talk about the stability. I think also, hopefully, he's roll swapped from 4 to 5, which is not the easiest, but I think he's starting in very well.
I think also when I look at the ACES March from Game 3, you said it has improved a lot. I could see that in this game.
He was everywhere. I think his itemization was good. They're just looking so solid. Every time I see them play, there's something new that's impressing me with how they move, how open they are, whether it's how fast or the itemization.
There's always something with that. It's too good.
I've seen enough. They are the winners of this season of a la here. They're doing it again. It's like it's at the fourth
La here that's possible, but then it's Dota 2, you know, you know that game one. What happened?
They were supposed to win dreamly terrible drafts
Tundra figured them out and they'll be absolutely owned in the draft. That's right. Yeah, it happens like Dota is a
Very polarizing which is weird to say because I feel like for the whole group stage here. It was
Not polarizing at all. It was like very close games and remember it's a bet. It's a best-of-five final, you know
like so who's gonna who's gonna be liquid in the best of spirit can he said it
apparently they kept they keep getting smacked by them in scrims aurora gaming
the best carry since nightfall prime v2 now let's go v2 now be all right no
I'll remind you of these whole play back the clip yeah yeah yeah no doubt we
record why don't we take a look at the brackets we have a wonderful game of
go to a wonderful day of go to some wonderful games you can see the ones
that we missed earlier. We had some two zeroes which have been the rarest of things. A heroic
I was very disappointed for them. I had a lot of them watching them earlier. We had KJ
come out of the sofa. He was talking about Warlock and said it's zero dopamine gaming.
It's a great expression. Yeah, yeah, actually, actually bailed it. Like, and then obviously
they were unfortunate not to win today against Team Pet Boom. Team Spirit against Vici had
to say in that game too, BG gave it their all, they were right there, weren't able to
turn it around and then of course we had the Yandex story just continue.
Banger series.
Yeah, great news, we urge you to go and watch that one if you missed it.
Yeah, like don't get fooled that both these series were two ones, the Aurora Yandex was
insane.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, this is a bit of a bit of a yawener.
And then obviously you can see that down there in the lower bracket.
That's the elimination stage and ah, it's going to be sad to say goodbye to some of
those teams. Obviously, here is the schedule that we've got coming at you. We're going
to be ending Team Yandex, your reward for your run. Here it is. Now you're going up
against the final boss. Are you going to be able to construct drafts that beat Team Liquid?
That boom will be taking on Team Spirit, two teams that know each other intimately by this
point. Aurora will be taking on Tundra. Remember, that's an elimination game. We could be saying
goodbye to Tundra with Parker tomorrow and heroic will be taken on beachy gaming.
I'm going to be very sad to say goodbye to either of those things.
I think both these teams like they just show like a lot of cool things.
And they're also like still new in like their own way.
You know, Ty Long is still new to heroic VP.
I love this team.
Like I love a lot of like a lot of their players like Faith, beyond why,
like being together in one team.
It's kind of hard for me to say, I think, who I really favor.
But all the matches tomorrow, they are exciting, Mr. Andrew.
Shout out to Faith, beyond as well.
I love that one. That was great view, Andrew. Yeah, we wish we wish that team very well, especially the planet. Shout out to planet making position for faceless void coming into the studio with his sick glasses on. I like the vibe from him. He's got that whole team has excellent vibes.
Let me the hijack for one second and say, I believe Bet Boom team, they're slowly sneaking in there.
Nobody's talking about them. Not once did we mention Bet Boom when we looked at these brackets.
This is what happened when they won. This is exactly what happened.
Everyone forgot about them and then boom! They get to the grand finals and they're a beast.
I need to see them one more time because I will say today I don't think they were really challenged.
That's fair. Unlike Andrew, he's on the challenge.
Yeah, you take it away.
I can't see that.
I love you.
I love you both.
It's been a great day.
That's kidding, by the way.
It was like the worst JK ever.
Love you.
See you in the hotel lobby.
Right, let's close this show.
It's been fun.
Thanks to all of you for staying with us over the course
of the day.
Make sure you tune in tomorrow at the same time
for more amazing Dota and PGA of Lagi.
We'll see you then.
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