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is there just going to work there's the doom I get onto Jackie just trying with
all his might to run away with that BKB it feels like most of the fights have been
like this stop all the time they arrow just a little bit of a comic goes off
obey gets the saber like kill as well this is not even remotely close
infernal blade he's burning out triple kill for army
They just need a supporter to then they can just go again and they'll get the support there.
And as Jackie plays, providing some nice stacks on that S and shift for XM.
First comes out, only under the solo target again at Povey.
Sucking a vulnerable spot, trying to get aggressive.
He just get bursted down though.
Double kill for XM as Jackie.
Not going to be able to pursue the snark any further.
Zeal.
It's not happening for 20 seconds.
a lot of right quick damage from those fury swipes and here comes Almey. Joining the party gets off
the balance strike as Norman trying to get his way back to base as he gets off the cold embrace
this time on the Jackie. The XM is going to get a lot as it should stack. There's the Marana
air coming though and the AOE doing the lightly in this game and it's they're going to bring
and save a life down in the fountain
and they get the full Team YBX.
["Divide"]
You don't watch movies, you don't watch TV shows,
you don't read books.
Like, what is wrong with you?
I eat food.
Jump in, divide, divide.
Nothing to do.
They still have so much damage.
Knight here to try to save the PL.
It's off the doppelganger.
There's a soul behind them.
PL still died, though.
And they are dropping like flies.
PMA with a BKV.
They're able to hang out the support.
And it's a male up and running now.
He's not even needed, though.
Place this one if he can't do it.
I'll do it.
My side, Validix.
And the death mark doesn't have a TP.
This is kind of a pause.
That's not an analytic visit.
He's dead.
It was kind of close, but.
Whoa!
And the raindrop delivered just in the last second.
Take plays.
Sunstruck.
Oh, no!
Not again!
Ha ha ha ha!
You have died.
You have died.
Snake it.
You have died.
Snake it.
You have died.
You have died.
You have died.
Potentially spawning.
Snake it up.
Snake it ship.
Yes, he's gonna take an arrow.
He's taking a lot of damn telekinesis.
Not enough to save.
So he does fight.
He's taking an arrow.
He's taking an arrow.
He's taking a lot of damn telekinesis.
Kinesis not enough to save so he does fall
And it's a male using that magnetized
This was not exactly
Designed by LG damn sure you had this in the proper PMA to get the top top device
It's off the black hole onto to make it three
My goodness the buybacks come in full force from Navi, but life stealer does not have it
And now the pressure on two, Sumail gets telekinesis, my chop to the ground, Wix looking for an opening.
As you can see, the infant is going to work on a PMA, they're just going to call it.
What a more of a risky choice.
Both teams gone through portal
He's talking about their farm
He's playing
He's going to drop the black hole and that's a solid one
He's actually the two big ones
Well, Stoikov and Koi, so there's no counter play
I'm immediately going to go over to TPR after that
Scan comes out, Mira
We'll break the smoke
Characters
What am I going to try and fight?
The two of them have been dropped down
They're on top of him
They're coming for them.
They're thrown up in the air by a bit of sense.
They're on the way back down.
They catch him with a stash.
Going off the intro, but they're gone.
They're going off the porch.
Tamarna now trying to move it to the other side.
They get the knee, can't be off.
Trying to run.
Fade.
RZY running him down.
And RZY comes in and they're discussing the draw on a Tamarna.
Stealer moves in with a toss go.
Both of them.
The crowd comes in.
They'll be thrown up in the air for now.
They're going to heal himself up with the same technique.
Kato and Amalach comes in again.
Pinks Tamarna out.
Aurora, Amalach's around.
Speed and RZY.
Clean up the team, why?
Sam?
Try for the chopper, but it's not time to destroy him!
We'll get the big heavy off, but it's surely far too late!
They all died a melee!
I don't think he can get shot so low.
He's got Frost coming though, Sats is on his way.
Smoke will break.
Alright, invisible break.
I'll tell you what, he's done a pretty good job of getting him making that half of the solo.
They know which one it is.
I do.
I shot.
He's dead.
On to the next.
That is really many times beyond the tower.
Who is Valady?
Suck some of them all forward.
This one's going to be able to clean up 33.
They're trying to kill this slug with the pounces back up.
Churching him behind in the trees.
Once he gets the triple rampage.
He might get an ultra.
Can he get the rampage?
No rampage, quite.
One sort of 5 on 5 there for the defense.
Zero building behind.
No, I'm not. I'll bring up that one.
And I'm up!
He's getting the ult down on the 33.
The grip was well. 33's gone.
Dead for 25 seconds.
No buyback.
Leela pounds 4 on Tishat.
He's out without buyback.
Let's die one by one.
Hello Dota fans.
Welcome back to PGL, the lahia season 9.
season nine were well into the playoffs now having done a full day for series. And that
means that today the morning crew, which are made up of these fine chaps over here, you
can see you've got the good. There it is. That is not a gang sign. That is the approved
morning crew sign. That is the cost that is Jenkins. He can't do gang signs at the moment.
He broke his thumb a few days ago. How's it coming along by the way? It's better. The
finger is better. Dota is getting better as well. And the things that I'm having for
breakfast are also better. I just had a cheesecake and fully energized. Yeah, Richard got it for me.
Thank you, Richard. It looks not for me. I'm a beast. Are you? Is it your right hand? Yes, it looks crooked.
I'll go back to the doctor. I think we're gonna let it be this way for you in the green room. But
anyway, you say in the dough is getting better. How was yesterday? I thought we saw some really
cool stuff. We did. We also saw some like really bad stuff coming out the team's experimenting
I feel like we saw Timbersaw being like 0-7 and 0 in one of the games,
one of the memiest games that we've seen.
And then the second part of the day, we saw Aurora, Gamer Legion,
pretty big stomp, and then even a bigger stomp in Yandex against 1W.
If you came into before the tournament, you'd probably expect 1W,
they would be able to maybe punch back harder.
They would be one of the teams to potentially take the whole thing.
But Yandex, compared to other teams,
they seem to be on a slightly different level.
Yeah, in multiple ways too.
I like that you mentioned the Timbersaw.
I really feel like Dota could be studied by psychologists
because it always happens, it's cyclical,
where you have a hero that's a really high win rate
in the group stage, and then people start respecting it.
And then all of a sudden, when the respect comes out
and the counters start coming out
and they don't just let the hero have quote unquote
free games in the meta adapts.
It doesn't just look not good.
It looks bad.
It looks really bad.
You've read my mind, Andrew,
because I thought what would be a good topic
to talk about today would be sort of
wherever you were at in the group stage
compared to where we're at in the playoffs.
Yeah.
There has been an evolution.
Absolutely.
What if the show, some of the heroes
that had insane win rate so far in the playoffs
and the doom yesterday, he started off strong.
He started strong with five out of five games.
and did lose one later on in the group stage, was sitting at 50% win rate.
I would say Rubik is the big one.
He didn't lose yet at the playoffs, but also in the group stage had relatively high win rate.
I think we are going to be seeing more of this hero.
You had a good point yesterday, Jenkins, about other position 4s getting banned or getting picked.
There is a very small hero pool that you could choose from.
Yeah, Spellcaster, position 4s are very strong in the meta, so they're all getting banned.
Rubik's the only one left and it counters Timbersaw and Timbersaw was in like every
game yesterday.
And just real quick though, I mean whenever you start seeing things like Enigma and everything
else come to the forefront, obviously Rubik's always going to be lurking behind the curtain,
isn't he?
If there's good spells to steal, Rubik's always, he's always the guy.
Now a specialist pick that we've noticed come into kind of a vogue, if you want to call
it that.
You did call it on day one to your credit, Andrew, this is why you're gonna do this segment.
Is Slark as a counter to certain heroes in the mid lane?
Yeah, and in general, it is hypothetically actually a good mid if you can get away with
the lane, and I wanted to show just how people are using this hero mid.
You know, they're not overplaying it, at least Chira Jr. is not.
He just walks up, he gets a stack of his E ability, walks back to the wave, focuses
He's just slowly but surely trading right there's no crazy over commitment. He doesn't pounce. He doesn't do any of that. He just slowly but surely dominates the lane and this is the really nice thing about Slarkin is in a you can run through the jungle when you force the enemy to go jungle these camps that is going to happen if you play the lane like this.
like this, you're the best hero for running through the jungle to those camps.
You get that extra move speed at nighttime and you know that they don't see you because
of his passive.
So what else can you do?
You can run to the wisdom shrine at seven minutes into the game.
You know that they don't see you and on your way you can drop a ward.
So it's a mid laner that can basically gank and people won't know that he's, you know
that they don't know that he's there, right?
And then you can also run around, and you can get these nice d-wards with your innate.
When the innate turns off, you know there's a ward there.
So not only are you able to gank with, people don't know that you're there.
You can also de-ward their vision if they do know that you're there.
You de-ward the vision, you see that your innate is still working.
They don't see me.
Okay, I'm going to go for this kill here, right?
It's like, it's really, really crazy to me to have a mid laner that if you can get away
with the laning phase, then you have a hero that they know they don't know where you are
and you know that they don't know where you are and you can do work and you can work.
Yes.
Everything.
It is a lot of pressure, especially let's say you lost one more lane and then you have
Slark who's popping off who is having that good of a time during the night time.
The map feels very, very small and feels very dark for you to actually play and I thought
you are going to show as well the XMs, Slarkarino that he played in the mid lane where, you
know, he was on the receiving end, but what Hero can also do is drag the creep wave because
he bought the boots of speed, bought the healing sal, dragged the creep wave, he was playing
into Viper matchup. So even into these losing matchups, did buy Hand of Midas to come back
into the game, but also a Hero that can make a comeback. Like he's very good against these
tanky mid laners. Ember Spirit is the big one that has been like the most popular Hero
of the tournament. The other one is Dragonite that is seeing void spirit. We we just yeah. Yeah. And
the cool thing about this one is that Yandex already had earth spirit. So the ember comes out
because they think oh it's earth spirit mid right. And Soxa whipped out the earth spirit
four position for the first time. So we are seeing that like I think because of this because of the
flexes that are going to happen and baiting the embers and the void spirits mid. I think we're
going to see more sark. Well I hope so. He sort of plays like how mid used to be. I can't
remember who it was. I want to say it was Malrin. I watched, what did you watch? I read an interview
where he said mid is the, his words, not mine, the cook support position now essentially. You have to,
it's not like the days of old, you know, you dominate your lane, get three kills, go to
side lane snowball win the game for everyone slot can't actually do that
Yeah, he's a bit of a different
Midlaner when it comes down to taking over the whole map
This is a bit of an outdated concept in Dota
I don't think many heroes can take over the game solo especially map being that big
I think good example would be monkey king like a year ago
Maybe when he was one of the most popular mids where if you're off to a good start you can pretty much solo dominate the game
make the map very small for the enemy and then kind of it's kind of the same
thing actually yeah you have to have a good lane yeah and if you do you take
over the lane you take over the game yes and that's a great comparison
actually it's definitely like old monkey king well we can also take a look at
some of the other heroes that have been popular so far I mean this is the you
know kind of meta that's evolved on this letter patch for us and Dom as is his
way, trying hard to pick these up. Yeah, these are in the stage one, the picks and
bands and we can see some of the differences as well, like which heroes are getting prioritized,
which ones are getting picked, for example, Darkseer, he doesn't get that contested in
the first phase when it comes down to bands, but he does get quite a lot of picks and hence
the win rate that he is having right now. Sorry, with the 16, I'm not joking, like Darkseer
players are 16% win rate and Largo pretty much being the only one who is picked and banned in the
first phase and we are seeing quite a lot of for example enigma in stage one of bans because
a lot of the we have a lot of hero specialists here at Malachi but also you can't just first
phase this hero there are a good amount of counters so you are I don't think in second phase
either yeah a lot of times you can just be bad this tournament so I just I just want to be clear
on those stats. The Earth Spirit 50% win rate is when the team bans it. Not Earth Spirit's
win rate because Earth Spirit's win rate is 80%. Like those top tier bans, the teams
are banning and letting the darks hear through. This is one of the first Wallachias that
I can remember where the most banned heroes actually have some insane win rate. You know,
because there's always, at the end of the playoffs, it's always getting close to like
like 50% mark, but for some
reason it seems like Earth
Spirit Ember these years longer
are so in but maybe because
everything else was like
over-nerved that they genuinely
have an insane win rate.
The meta might be uncertain,
but the schedule is not.
And this is what we've got
coming at you for today.
I'll work our way backwards
as we always do.
Aurora versus Yandex is just
a crazy game at this stage
of the tournament.
Both potential winners, but
that isn't to say extreme gaming have just looked insanely impressive garbage in their
very first game and then just amazing since they're going to be taking on LGD who put
on a masterclass of drafting yesterday it's got to be said games we're going to be talking
about game religion versus one win the loser going home and to start us out nemesis versus
Novi. It's so sad.
One of these guys going home. It's so sad.
Yeah, unfortunately, but I think Navi looked better overall.
Nemesis yesterday when they were playing against Extreme Gaming,
they got completely stumped, I gotta say.
Like, they got cooked by this mid-slark against the Dragonite.
I think Joakim had a pretty rough series as well.
His hood wink.
Yeah, it did not look that good.
so they need to wake up properly as well.
They had certain ideas, especially in that game one,
because the draft didn't look too bad,
but what they were playing against on the other side,
they were playing against all these meta heroes,
all these highest win-rate heroes against Marana,
Doom, Ember Spirit, Lone Druid.
Seems like they forgot about Lone Druid as well.
A lot of teams do in the first game.
They're like, yeah, it's not a hero.
And then they lose.
They're like, yeah, we need to ban it.
And then they win the second game
that lose their game to something else because they also forgot to be here's
the problem though you know we keep waiting for this nor the team that's
what I was thinking to have the resilience to sort of bounce back and
when things go bad unfortunately it has a tendency to snowball we did an interview
with Niku and he was so happy to be in the playoffs he said we've been at eight
players we've only been a playoff slice which is so hard to believe because
again I can't stress this enough to everyone at home don't dismiss these
guys. They're an unbelievably talented young team that, by the way, immaculate vibes with
each other. It's just, unfortunately, when they run into those difficult mid-games,
they do have that tendency to crumble under the pressure, and we're hoping they can turn
that around. It would be great for Dota if they could, but maybe it doesn't happen at
this point here either. I don't know.
I mean, this team, when they lose, they can do it so quickly and they can look so bad.
And then the next game, all of a sudden, they're stomping, you know?
And then sometimes you have a game, a series that goes to game three, just like the LGD
one, it's crazy back and forth.
They get five man black hole, just at the team fights and then they're the team that
ends up losing and they just bomb on a playoffs.
But here's what I'm talking about.
You can look at the LAN results and it's like, okay,
the history of this org is incredible.
The history of this team, it's complicated
because you're gonna see there,
something's gonna stand out to you and you're gonna go,
this isn't a very good team,
but look deeper at some of these results
and what you're gonna realize is
they are the streaky feast or famine team.
Yeah, pretty much.
This is ever since this team kind of has been formed.
The results on LAN, you can feel that some things
are lacking. They got a second place during the last one of the slams and I think it comes
down to format. I think with a different format, not sure if they would be able to get such
result because it's like very, very quick. You win a couple of games suddenly during
the Grand Finals and in the double LIM with Malachi as with, you know, International and
Esports World Cup at the time, the team does seem to struggle quite a bit more. And if
If we look the way they played yesterday against LGD Gaming, it was also a game, that Game 3, that they could have potentially taken by...
They were in that game.
It seems like they have a little bit of a mental block when it comes down to getting into Top 4, like playing their best Dota.
And you talked about inconsistency, but one thing that has been consistent has been Riddies.
Riddies!
Yeah, this guy really cooked.
and like he won with it against Aurora against 1W and against LGD. LGD was the biggest one in the
like he had five kills in five minutes with malediction with the help of some of the sun strikes
as well and if you look at his itemization he is picking up a blink dagger every single game
keeping the distance one support item whether that being a glimmer cape or a four staff depending
what's needed or consecrated, or consecrated wraps in that game three where he was he was really popping up.
No, but what I what I like about him, Thomas, he's playing so fast. It's like grease, grease, lightning.
Yeah, he like he has those lighting grease. Yeah.
He he's very quick when it comes down to rotations and everything. I feel like
what happened in game number one against LGD where they've lost the laning stage pretty heavily.
I think they also realized we need something stronger and we need something against these tanky off laners
So I think this hero is gonna get contested because
It's probably gonna be saber light saying you know what guys screw you screw all of your like advanced and fixed preparations
I'd not want to lane against this year. Yeah been interesting obviously nemesis their opponents and
We've had saber light on the sofa and he's talked a lot about you know
He is standing technically it could become a permanent move obviously
You never know where it's going to go in the great post TI shuffle, but he said like I've got a bit more agency in this team
When I make calls and say, you know, I need you to come to this lane the supports turn up. I've never had that before
Yeah, I mean this guy has really good ideas
I'll go back to this time and time again
He got a little unlucky this season with how the resets work because he was
Grinding on the leaderboard and he actually got himself to rank one like he was above
You know state the satanics of the world the guitars looks he was out there
Popping off and then the reset happens like a week later, so he's kind of bad
He's back on the ground. It's so saber-like to get like that actually it's so funny
So the guy the guy's really good and he's gone through a big period of growth recently
You know obviously following the you know being being on VP and previously
Liquid he was kind of looking inward and getting a lot better
So I think what you're seeing is not only, you know, him having a team around him that will play around him and go to his lane
But also kind of a new saber light that we're seeing as well
I would expect him to be whatever team he ends up on it
He'll be very successful in this season and this is the interesting thing that we've talked about how excellent
PMA is is an off-laner. You know, we highlighted how very often he's farming way and above a lot of off-laners in this competition
Super high, you know gold per minute, but what I find interesting saber like for all his critics
He's been the more versatile. He's been the one picking lots of heroes. He has been
For PMA it didn't work like they forced this axe three times
He lost all three games on the hero
Not sure if he's gonna be losing some confidence playing this hero because in that third game that they were winning
Then they started losing winning again, and they lost in the end
And he looked good, but when it comes down to versatility, Saberlight definitely has
the upper hand.
And when I talked about the Witch Doctor that they might play from the safe lane, there's
one particular hero that does well in these kinds of matchups, something that they played
once and that's Death Prophet, because you don't get too close.
It's the ranged Offlaner and also a hero that has Spirit Siphon, so Malediction is not going
to be dealing you that much damage because of the Spirit Siphon.
So it might be a hero to potentially look out for Saberlight in the offlane.
Just super quick before we get into the draft, one of the things we haven't talked a lot
about, neutral items and the enchantments, we've got a little bit of time we can do that.
Andrew, I know this is something you wanted to highlight, obviously I feel like at the
previous Vlaahia, it was pretty much set in stone, kind of what you wanted to take,
what was optimal, have things change.
I hate to break it too, but they haven't.
Okay, right now.
It's set in stone.
See ya, everyone.
It just highlights how the meta is right now.
That's right.
The games are going very long.
So a lot of people are going for quickened
so they can get across the map a lot quicker
between the neutral camps and between the lanes.
The map is super big, so you got to do that.
Greedy, obviously, even Quors are still picking up Greedy,
even though they've been nerfed.
Quickened is very valuable on every single tier.
Even in tier four, people are still taking quickened
because that's how good move speed is.
I mean you can only get it from I was gonna say when they make the sketch resource, right? Yeah, it is
And and I do believe that if the map wasn't so huge and there wasn't so many jungle camps to farm like
Effectively getting move speed. It's kind of like getting a mini greedy anyway
Yeah, one thing that 33 was talking about was like if you don't have full inventory
You are doing something bad. So you needed to buy windlays windlays did get nerfed over time
Now it doesn't give that much movespeed, but it's still very very good because
It's a farming tool as well when you think about like just having more movespeed means you're moving faster between the camps
you can connect the ganks faster as well, which means you are getting extra bit of a gold and
Yeah, we have the draft ready and I feel like I feel like this tiny even if it goes like I don't think
Nemesis is gonna get the hands on tiny. Yeah, that's not a big place to be clear
that we highlighted this yesterday but obviously not everyone was watching. The win rate for Nemesis
when they get those blink initiate the carries is 89% or it was when we did it yesterday.
Especially the blink strength initiative. Yes. Then Tiny, Tiny I think if they play two more games
or if they play like 13 more games in the tournament Tiny is going to get removed every single time
Because Jackie, he seems way too comfortable on the hero and Clockwork as a response to Lena from Nemesis
It's a it has always been one of the better heroes against Lena having the gap close the pushback Lena doesn't get
Never liked to be repositioned one of the reasons why tiny was always one of the best counters from all the shaking for yet
Alling Magnus as well when he was a hero. So these type of heroes. She really hates the play into I love this pick from Navi though
So, Lena is just not the best hero, it's fine.
It's probably B tier, maybe A tier if you have somebody who is really good at it, but
Niku has been popping off with Lena.
And I like the Navi that is simply picking the stuff that they are good at and they say,
okay, screw the meta.
We believe in our Niku, you know, 16 year old prodigy genius to just go mid, go 17 and
He'll dominate whatever in lane. He'll show up to the side lanes. I actually prefer a Navi
That's just playing their own style and kind of ignoring the meta. It looks way better
We saw it
Kind of yesterday in the day before when they were picking like this. They were doing a lot better
I thought it was more of a way to regain their confidence, but
Just to talk about Niku for a moment while the rest of the drafts come in because it's a Murami
You know all about that hero
Obviously Niku getting hit with all the respect bands. The Kez is the respect band on Niku. Do not think anything else
The ember is also a respect band on the Niku. I mean heroes very good anyway in Niku's hand
It's way above average. And the invoker. Yes, and then the invoker also
Yeah, after those thoughts yesterday
We saw him get dumpstered in lane by Sumail. By the way Sumail's OD had like
35 denies by the time the landing stage was over. It was a clinic, but then Niku said that's fine
I'll play behind tier two and just do these insane sun strikes to get kills and get caught up in the game
So there's a lot of respect being put on Niku's name and not without reason
Yeah, I mean he is just a beast very
young and talented and not gonna even say up and comer but still yet to get those like super big results in the career and
and look at him go.
Yeah, Abu Talabashu Neba himself, he is ready.
He is ready.
On the other side, I gotta talk about the clockwork
and Marana because they have a pick on nine,
they have a pick on 13 out of the phase.
So they take both of these heroes,
clockwork very good throughout the game,
of course, against Lina, but they also take Marana,
which is a hero that can play with clockwork,
very easy setup for Marana's arrow,
and also Marana would potentially be taken by Navi because it's one of those heroes that does not care about clockwork.
One of the reasons why this is sure such a highly prioritized in most of the drafts is you don't easily die.
We haven't seen a lot of Centaur getting through for PMA.
I mean, people have been banning it out.
And I think A, he's really good on it.
And I also think B, it's like just awesome for the disengage.
Like, it's just so good.
Like if anyone's doing anything to you, you just go,
all right, I'm pressing a button and we just walk away from this.
Yeah, we've seen a lot of Centaur banned into Doom pics.
Yeah.
Or the other way around, if that's the pick order.
OD comes out.
It's probably other than Ember, the hero
that people are going to for a Marana arrow setup
on the mid lane.
OD, as a hero, can kind of be a lot more active than he
used to be, especially when you pair him up with supports
like this.
It's frustrating into low mana pool heroes. Yeah, we if you're sent are you are not too happy
Flying into od you can also in prison during the centrality that that feels pretty bad. I
Like the scent pick a lot. I think it gives them like they have no
Heroes that Sven right now is afraid off so he can pretty much jump in with a bkb
And if he's getting the initial jump the heroes are gonna die
They have a good amount of stuns, they have a good amount of follow-up stuns as well.
Another hero that Alina doesn't like to play into, she doesn't like to play into
Overwhelming Damage Heroes that can kill her quickly.
So I want to see now once they see the matchup, we're gonna save this one for later.
Do you know what I haven't seen a lot of? No.
Is this even still in the game? The Superman's Fender, woo!
It is, it yags.
Yeah, I used to love that.
That was so much fun.
It's very expensive, you have better items.
No, why you want to be getting your blink dagger like you just get a harpoon, right? Yeah, but it's basically the same
But the spell mechanic is nice
But also a lot of the times you will see others picking up
You know a nullifier if needed there's something just to get rid of it's not really Sven's job
And also it can't put you in a difficult spot
So not an exit you see every day. Sure. It doesn't it doesn't apply right click anymore. That was what made it really good
Yeah, I would show up and it would have been what's the change. Yeah, it's just a better feel. It's just a stunt now
So it's it's it's not as good and yeah
Instagib these supports can get instagib by spend pretty easily though sure, but it's a it's a nasty rubric game like
You steal cogs. You're happy. You still matter on your arrow. Yeah astral obviously is insane
That's like the main reason that it's picked here. It's probably
It's one of the best counters in the game to OD because the cast range that Rubik has on Imprison and the duration is better than OD, so it's just a better version of OD in Sven as well.
Like Steel has Sven stun and you have insane disable and damage.
But also the runny away spell, the speed up spell from Sven.
Warcry, yeah.
Warcry, you can steal that. That's always fun.
Yeah, it's like insane Rubik game.
Like he's gonna have a good time no matter what.
What do we want for Gutt the Juice?
They need a hero that Sven is going to be afraid of.
So I was thinking maybe they could potentially go back to Faceless Void, but there is OD
on the other side, so sometimes it can be tricky, but other than that they have no saves
whatsoever.
You have Witch Doctor in the lane, which this hero can't set up any lane for a success
because of the extra heal that he does have in the lane.
I'm listening, Richard, do you have something?
No, I'm gonna pull you totally off topic if I say it,
but I was just gonna say,
the highest win rate hero actually is meant as Earth Spirit.
Totally ignored.
Here we go, okay.
Wait, what?
Wait, hold on.
I mean, Sven's one of the...
We have to ask them in an interview,
like what is this CK ban about?
because Sven is one of the best heroes in the game to deal with the CK.
He legit one-shots the illusion from CK.
I mean, we saw a terrible CK pick.
Yes, and this would have been another one if they managed to get the hand.
I know the hero. I know the hero. OK.
T.A. No. Got the juice T.A.
Yeah, I like this.
This is a God tier hero versus Sven.
It the supports don't do shit to T.A.
I mean, they do have last pick, though.
That's the that is one thing. There's a counterpick that can come out for nemesis
But the question is the saberlight play anything it could be viper
It could be dead profit. I feel like these heroes could be okay in the lane
But I like the TA suggestion a lot the hero that's just doesn't die to spend
This is safer. There's a lot safer. Well, you don't understand total worry about starters. Yeah, it was nice
Mm-hmm, and it's a it's a we've talked about this. It's a polarizing
match up and defend, double that sword, you know, eventually spend when he gets MKB, can
deal, dish out enough damage to kill a windrunner pretty quickly, but on the flip side, until
that point, windrunner presses windrun and uses focus fire on Sven, and he just kind of
dies.
Yeah, I mean, there's still Necro in the pool if they want to go death route.
In the game, there is Lena, there is good amount of magical damage coming out, you have
extra bit of a save.
I'm just thinking about the ranged offlaners that they could pick up, because this is not the ranged offlaner,
but this is the hero that they're going to go for the wolf Sven.
Yeah, it's caught a lot of the Magio and also supports, they suffer against any kind of zoo.
Like Rubik maybe later on can use the lift with the shard on himself.
They will need to play around Centaur, but I also think that Centaur does not want to pop that ulti to save one of the supports.
the question is how much he's gonna be able to get out of the lane I think I was
thinking any zoo heroes if you put the summons on to which doctor he can't do
the thing that he wants to do yeah like he can't he can't get that
malediction off and I feel like this is a very very good pick I'm really liking
Nemesis lineup it's it's very interesting I if they can get out of the
laning stage. It's a great draft, but which doctor can be a bastard in the lane for Lycan,
to be fair. He just slowly kind of runs away from you. It does go both ways, you know,
which doctor is pretty squishy to the wolves. And if you can hit some like nice Marana arrow,
clockwork rotation, whatever, it can be good.
Yeah, we saw a Lycan into silence again earlier in the competition. That was one of the...
It's very fun for Silencer.
Yeah, that was one of the Lycan wins.
And Silencer and Skywreck Mage are like the two favorite heroes
to play against us Lycan.
Witch Doctor and Rubik are up there.
They're very nice to play against,
but it's not like they completely cannot defend themselves
like those other two heroes.
Witch Doctor has the bongos.
Rubik has Lyft.
Witch Doctor can turn into the voodoo switcheroo.
So there are options there.
Rubik can also steal Lycan ulti and run away.
Run away.
It is unironically a thing because he's no it up to you take so much time transforming that you just you like it, right?
So it's not like a completely. Oh my god. He's gonna pop up with like in this game
But if they can get to the Sven Wolf stage of the game
It can get pretty nasty, but it's also a mentioning. I mean these were kind of same like
Specialities, you know, he played a lot of yeah, I mean they definitely talked about what they are gonna be
the game. We're going to be
choosing from from his
relatively big hero pool. If
this which doctor comes out
or if this is going to be some
range hero and they came up with
lichen and I feel like this
lichen could potentially take
over the game. All right. Well
before we get into the game, we
go to the sideline. It's time
for a nugget from Nomad. Thank
you, Mr Lewis. Yes, I'm here
with Mr Arthur from Nemesis.
Firstly, the cost really wanted
to know what was the thoughts
neither one stun to enable the Woody. So we are looking at his data, he played this one CK game.
It's also kind of good in the OD, right? Like OD doesn't really deal with illusion heroes, so
we go for it. We didn't see the Windranger coming because we didn't think that we are going to look
for ranged carries because they already have Lena, so I think it ended up being pretty happy for us.
All right, and then you just, the thoughts behind the like, and then just to run those
ranged carries down. Yes, Lakan is very good into Lena, he's very good into Ruvik and Woody also,
so they're happy. Alright and what do you think of Na'Vi's draft and what's the floor in that draft
that you're looking to expose? I think they have only one melee hero which is really you know our
Swen and Odie is really good into that and they have like four range that they really need to
protect so if this Centaur doesn't have a good game I think we are in a position to run them over.
Brilliant and is Na'Vi a team you're really prepared against and you're really confident against?
You know have you have you covered into the tournament? Did you peg these guys as a team
which you'd be able to beat didn't really think too much about that, but confident.
Confident? All right, good to hear it. Thank you so much, Leon Arthur,
and good luck in this game number one. Thank you very much. We got game number one indeed,
Navi vs Nemesis, and I have some interesting picks again. It feels like the deeper we get
in the tournament, little juicers come out out of the woodwork, Cinderan.
You mean the lichen specifically? Sure. Because everything else is kind of...
I mean, I was gonna say, obviously, Na'Vi, they're the witch doctor masters.
Mm-hmm.
Is it a hundred seven right now?
Yeah, it's three I know.
We'll end here.
I'm the hero.
You're a big hater of the hero.
I'm not a hater of the hero, I just think...
In my book, this hero is not a first pick, which it also wasn't in this game, by the way.
They did first pick it yesterday against...
Who was it?
I'm trying to remember.
It was specifically to target a player that was more or less only playing these, like, tanky offline
melee heroes so I think there was effectively them challenging and saying
hey can you play anything else and he stopped that link so what I wanted to
point out was one of witch doctor's weaknesses as a five is that he's pretty
slow and he can't stop you from pulling the wave effectively so I was surprised
to see nobody really trying to take advantage of that as much against
Riddies on the witch doctor just something like a clockwork for I think
completely fine start with boots go and pull the wave and break things up so that witch doctor
doesn't just get to stand and cast melodic together with a ranged carry and um yeah so far so good
i i do think this is a game that like you can thrive in if the lane doesn't become a disaster
and saberlight already uh is up to level two comfortably without really taking any damage
and as soon as he gets home with the dominator a good luck to witch doctor and really pressuring
him right like that's yeah not really gonna happen anymore so
hey this is a really old change I believe but the cast on creeps changed
right long time ago so that I mean which part of the last like five times long
right yeah that's so that's a couple years back yeah I just wanted to double
check it was him and Crystal Maiden that were particularly getting materials that
and have these neutrals as days, getting gone on in the bot lane, Jackie getting blocked by the tree,
if they can finish it, but they're out.
Good moment there from days that he saw the fairy fire to go, but did a good job cutting through to the left.
This feels like a, I think it was Fogg who was like, what year is it yesterday in the green room
when we were watching some of the lanes and he was like, this looks like a lane from Dota 1, you know?
You know, and this is no different. It's like Sven, Morana kind of, or some of the like Sven plus ranged support with a stun, which used to be an absolute classic, you know.
It's cool to kind of see those come back.
And finally in mid, do you think it's fair to say that there's been some of the games where Moe Bay has been a little bit outclassed?
That's how I feel, like sometimes he has certain heroes where he does really well, and this is not necessarily a fair matchup, so that's not really the point I'm trying to make here.
I think if he is counterpicked in mid or has a tough matchup, I'm a little bit worried for Nemesis' ability to
really enable him. I think he doesn't play the best from behind
and he looks best when he is playing
strength mids, like Tiny or Dragon Knight or Timbersaw. We got to cast, I believe, him playing all three of them actually.
But this time he's on the OG against Lena, an unfavorable matchup and not really in his wheelhouse in my eyes.
So I'm curious to see how well he's going to do gear
Yeah, he's a little bit inconsistent I would say it's a double mouth. It comes out from British, but no residual damage from that power shot
Yeah, I would agree with that. I think
And we kind of talked about this the other day with because we've cast a lot of their games seemingly but it feels like their lineups are
Inherently slow as well
Where Jackie gets off to a really good start in terms of farming doesn't really join the fights
and the mid doesn't exactly mid and or offline don't really push the envelope and
kind of keep the pace up for the spend to have time to actually contribute in a
meaningful manner. It ends up just being these like 30 minute stages of the game
where Jackie's top net worth everybody else is super low net worth by
comparison it's just a 1v5 it feels like. Yeah they need to avoid that time of
situation. The good news is I think this is a time game that Lycan can do that.
But so far it doesn't look outstanding with his 15 and 2, but you've got to consider
you're playing against double ranged hero and it's a matter of getting to that first
item and things are going to smooth out a lot more.
And the nice luxury you have in this lane is that both your 4 and yourself can pull
the wave.
We've already seen him pull the wave twice now with wolves, which means that Joakim gets
to play slightly differently such as, for example, if you can try to box out the witch
doctor a lot more than usual since he would be the one with the responsibility of pulling
the wave, now instead they can do it as a team, that makes things a lot easier.
Yeah, it is a 1k lead for Navi though, just raw lane advantage, a big part of it is in
that mid lane.
Radice, excuse me, Neaker is up by almost 600 against OD, and PMA on his Centaur.
This guy is a strong laner, so you give him a good lane matchup, he's going to give a
CS every time.
Yeah, the 6 minute power rune that's gonna come in the next 20 seconds will affect the mid lane.
Yeah, like you said, Lina 34-4, OD 24-6, so advantage Niku, obviously.
And as Joke, I'm still getting gone on by Riddies. Looks like he's gonna fall down to Maladek.
So first blood goes to the witch doctor. Have you seen this a time or two?
Usually it's at the 1 minute mark, though.
Oh, they're able to hold him off for a few minutes.
One of the best heroes in the game for Blood Grenade, Wedge Doctor, and took advantage of
that there as well.
It's pretty nice, you get this item for 50 gold that most people would like to use for
an early lane kill and you just have a hero who does more damage with the Blood Grenade
than everybody else, so pretty damn strong part of that kill on the clock.
So a good start for him as per usual on the Wedge Doctor.
I haven't really seen him struggle yet in any of their games on it.
Well, we'll see how the mid-game goes against the Lycan.
Yeah, exactly. The Lycan matchup's tough. Clockwork can be super annoying, actually.
So, it does feel like Nemesis has some decent tools.
As PMA, it's like he just finished this helmet of the Dominator he's delivered now.
He can fit a damage, but nothing too crazy.
Jack is actually rough acting to a double edge, but little War of Cry away.
This save her life.
Finally does take a maledict as Niku using that haste room, looking for an opening.
Can't quite get it though.
OD joins the party with the astral.
This joker's gonna be able to get the Wisdom Shrine so no contest there as the arrow pair.
He can't save his eclipse on top, so after all of that, Niku's haste room turns into the death of him.
That is really rough, and that's not the end of it either.
Got the juice is being run down here by clock and Marana.
So another kill.
And he's just resigned to his dad.
That's good.
The curry.
These pro players in that curry.
It's so weird.
They really, really wanted to go for a wisdom steal.
And this opens up the bot lane.
No workout.
Number one, B2.
And again, the tower, the satyr is following though.
They have stayed peed.
That's to the high ground.
If they wanted to.
They probably won't need it.
One more.
They're staying alive, and now the stampede, the creep will run through for the kill.
So yeah, that is the cost and the price they pay, but I would say well worth it for Nemesis.
They protect there with them, they kill the Lena, who even have the power run, and the Windraker.
So two core kills, that makes change.
And, you can argue most importantly, Malmobi looks very comfortable.
He just went from losing that lane by 600 to now swinging at 180.
now a head by five instead against Niku and that was this is what the panel is talking
about to an extent like I feel like Navi in some games this wasn't their words but they
it's like the same sentence sometimes they're almost the worst enemy but they honestly they
push the limits a little bit too much when it gets to the playoffs like trying to overcompensate
or over complicate things instead of sticking to their gun playing it like stable and that
Invasion play onto the wisdom it's tempting because you have the haste on the lina, but looking at the big picture
How much counterplay is available for the radiant if you go there you got to respect it you get if you get caught by astral
You die it doesn't matter that you have a haste you're going to get astral into arrow after into cogs and that's exactly what happened for Niku
So probably an unforced error. I think it's fair to say. Oh, he's almost killing Moby here though
Instead it must be arrow from behind
Now we have a shack on the top lane with the focus fire stabilizer to pop the ult as well.
Can't kill off this witch doctor but he barely teepes out in time.
Maladik still applied to the clockwork.
Will survive it.
This matchup isn't particularly fun for Windranger either.
As you can see, when Windrun is down, he's obviously going to live here but getting fully boxed out is a lot of lost farm.
lost farm for got the juice doesn't get the last on that one either Nico well
managed to finish off Norman who was really going for that kill that was
talking about mid he got astral into arrow they got the Lena low and Norman
kept chasing him in the jungle they were trying to kill him with the help of
rocket flare but Nico had enough damage and it ends up kind of being gifted a
kill there in his room snagged by days he's under a century yes gets astral
so to follow up though observation it's gonna take some damage from that Laguna
blade but Nico company clean up O.D. quite easily as days is actually gonna live
thanks to the bottle charges from Nico very nicely done
Narmin now on the run no leap to work with stampede's gonna close the gap
That's actually maybe gonna kill him that he missed that
Just a moment of course suffered not level six. He's okay, but otherwise that might have been his death
Wait, oh, yeah, I say that all right any
Yep, it's a gutter. All right
Unlucky
Yeah, it's kind of crazy that you can miss that dragon slave, but that's the hitboxes syndrome
Yeah, I mean to increase the hitboxes per kill. I was playing or it would be fair
Just click the hero you can't miss that one. I think
Anyway, got the job done in the end. It's all spying in well
Just running it and then he's casting it through boom
If he clicks on the Marana himself never miss, but it's all good
He lived to even baited a TP out of Jokem, so this is a nice benefit. Opens up Rodham.
Astral, arrow on the way, God's strength adds 12, stays Eclipse, and in addition PMA's still staying alive,
doing considerable amount of damage to Moe Bay. Will eventually die in the storm, Henry.
Moe Bay is the trade. That's not the end of it though.
That's what you sign up for, right here, Nemesis. Bays. Oh, didn't get the left swing off. No way, right.
Leap no way he lives here have TP though. Oh my god
Darmony's got it
Power shot kill on Norman that is illegal
How say I like killed Niku in the midst of all this though. So in the end it's actually pretty good for nemesis
Two cores for a corn support
Joke him and Saberlight combining Saberlight now in a very nice position here on the like-in with 5k net worth at 12 minutes
That's not too bad
The only core is really suffering ironically I would argue for both OD and Lena to be bottom for the cores
That is not what I would expect
Hey, spot if I got the juice, I'm getting some vision now, actual into arrow
The Malodic dot arrow, he's gonna hit with the star storm
You're gonna be able to get away. Hookshot. We'll finish the job. On to Riddies.
I believe the arrow hit. Maybe it didn't. It did. Okay, short duration. It's on a level 1.
So maxed on 2.3 seconds. And this part of that stun time was shared with the cogs.
It looked like there was gonna be a lot of chaining, but it's not quite.
One of the big changes to arrow when that happened.
when it went from, you know, just having the max stun duration at all levels to having scaling stun duration instead.
Used to be able to get some ridiculous early game kills with Astro the Tenero, for example.
Can you group run on it?
Walk into the alley of Jokam?
We'll walk another way.
Not sure why they haven't made a cosmetic that's literally just bowling balls.
Alright. Okay.
That's uh because Valve really care about the lore and the authenticity of the heroes.
So Centaur's Courier.
Cosmetic you're fine with now?
No.
That was going to be my next, that was going to be the punchline to my joke but you stole
it right out of my...
Oh, sorry about that.
That's all good.
Because we're so in sync we finish each others.
That's right.
Just looking over at you just deadpan, so good.
Uh oh, base on Norman, but there's wolves.
And there's a blocker.
Goodbye Ruby.
Double cogs.
Nemesis, I mean they're still down by 1k, but it feels like momentum's on their side.
I mean, really the biggest winner somehow is PMA on the center.
He is so tart.
He's completely free farming with his Dom.
He's got Dom hard now at 14 minutes,
which is obviously huge.
Like, make no mistake, this is an insanely farmed center,
but I don't think this is the current situation,
is that this position is not winning for Navi, in my opinion.
You've got Lycan now with Pelton of the Overlord
at 14 minutes.
Sven is happily out farming the other enemy cores,
and while a farmed center could do a lot,
his matchups in the game are not the best for the hero. I actually think when it comes to Centaur,
his worst carry matchup in the later portion of the game, Sven is up there because he's one of
the heroes that can just jump you and absolutely obliterate you during a chaining of stunts that
they have plenty of. OD also does a lot of damage to you.
Oh, shade shift. Saber like it's a nice prowl on top of the PMA.
Pharaoh is coming. Will hit days inside of his own cogs.
He can change down by Saber like the Ancient Queen of the Hela.
It says to be used along with the Laguna.
One lonely wolf and a do-it!
Oh, he's alive!
He's for days now. A hookshot in defensive measures for Joachim.
And that's gonna break things up. No kills other than the poor Farvon the Dreamer.
Do you think, uh, I mean he's getting it next obviously here on, uh, teammate, do you think maybe he should have rushed blink here?
Because their lineup doesn't really have any initiation aside from him and yeah, heart is obviously, Omega feels good and you get really farmed and all that, but...
These last couple of situations, they could have got something done if, uh...
If you can get away with a heart at 15 minutes of taking, I don't care what lineup you have.
It's same timing.
Arrow?
Does connect for days.
Well, Narmin wants to finish it, apparently, gets the Star Storm, and he just needs one more right click, but he's gonna die before he can get it.
He wanted to force into Sanities, but locked by the Cogs.
Narmin even gets tipped for his efforts. Very toxic young man.
Gaze. He did play on OG for a little bit, so probably learned it there, to be honest.
That's right.
Saberlight's got the ancient granite golem name. What is the favorite creepy thing?
Prowler was quite good. Prowler is crazy on this hero. I think it's if I had to pick one that would be the one.
So it's a root and minus armor. Root minus armor yeah it's crazy for the wolves to play with.
Saberlight I believe is delivering a shard if he's doing what Lichens always do and he is so that is coming out now.
So the shard gives him an additional wolf and they get high tail, which is what makes this absolutely
miserable for supports having to deal with one additional wolf that is stronger has face movement evasion moves speed attack speed
the whole shebang just so
crippling to play against and a lot of the time you see supports itemized specifically against like him by buying an early
Ghost Scepter this game is no different
I thought that first, hookshot actually going to get blocked there by the camp, unfortunate for Joakim that those camps, that the camp had spawned.
Of course that's not unfortunate, Shannon happens every minute, sure known.
I'm very unlucky, maybe he was hoping it was fun.
Oh, Norman behind enemy lines, oh he's going to kill a carry? No, he is going to die.
See well, that's his ring, and he pops them in like shadows as well.
That's rather optimistic thinking you're going to survive there.
He's playing as lean as that have not been too hot.
I think that's the wrong hero for that.
Is that a blink already for the centaur?
Yep. All right. Well, he's farming.
PMA shard coming next.
It's huge.
Hmm. I would like to see him by B could be early here.
I think instead of the shard, I think being able for him to just
I understand obviously the shard is very good, but being able to stick in the fight reliably for nine seconds against the slimer
I think is incredibly valuable. He's probably identified after otherwise.
Off-initiation. Objugation was activated from over, so the tank's up quite a bit, and they're only gonna hit the pine cone.
Sandyclips comes down to leads Joe, a Jokeman, actually. He's killed off by the Windrunner off-screen, and now Saber-Light.
All right, well, the Ghost Scepter has been purchased by the Witch Doctor, which delays the inevitable in this case.
And now it begins for him. The death of Witch Doctor, let's see. He's got three deaths right now, so not too bad.
This is going to be his hardest witch doctor to get in the tournament.
Win or lose, he's not going to have a good scoreline by the end of this. It is such a miserable game to play now.
Clockwork, Lycan, Sven, you die in the blink of an eye, you can get caught out of it, out of anywhere.
It's very hard to itemize against. You have to play this Ghost Scepter, which really sucks to have to buy, because it means you don't have, you know,
the blink you're usually playing with, or some sort of utility item like Solar Crest or Glimmer or Force Staff.
So, definitely going to be on the back foot.
Fortunately for him, he does have the Grigory, so if he can't go to late, I think he can get an item.
Yeah, very important.
He's currently 550 gold, nothing to scoff at.
Oh, I like this play. This is very unexpected for Nemesis, so this is going to go home cleanly.
Rocketflare will fly across, but it's already too late.
Nice Aegis pickup here for Got the Juice. He's angling a Mjolnir into dragonlines and then BKB, I would think.
He doesn't look full, I just breathed Q'd up, probably not going to complete that entirely.
Interesting.
I do think he could be, yeah he could be, he could still be here now.
Okay.
Nice shadow, any openings?
Okay, alright, I made an opening.
I'll follow him.
Yeah, they were thinking about the hookshot play as well, but they just don't have enough information about Navi's whereabouts.
Navi themselves actually have more like a chance to, a bit of an interesting situation here.
Early no set to bot.
It's Pesky Wolves.
That's a pretty nicely drawn circle there from Jackie, not in the sense that it's pretty, but it was definitely where action was bound to be found.
They just want to avoid it for now.
Moby blink 4 staff.
Moby's farm has considerably dropped.
I'm imagining he's just going to go BKB now and try to have whatever impact possible in these fights.
He's resigned to being the least relevant hero in terms of net worth,
but his potential impact with just Astral and Ulti should not be underestimated still.
They have so good combos.
So as long as he gets that off you can bare minimum force a BKB by just astraling the right hero
Armand
We'll get spotted by the rubik and the cask and he's dead
He's stolen for days
Best so 4k lead now for now. We just farming better. Yeah getting more out of the map
It's not that they're killing a lot of heroes. Yeah, sure they get a little
Marana here or there, but yeah, Moe Bay definitely trailing by too much for this type of a game
state to feel that great.
The juice will defend the tower, killing off the Ancient Creep and Wolf.
And Saberlight says, alright, I'll swap sides with the map.
He's working on a nullifier, so that goes separate for both Witch Doctor Rubik.
Got to be used pretty soon.
And I guess after that, either by BKB or X, I don't know what I like better.
The X for Sven is obviously incredible, but I think maybe it's a little bit too dangerous
to put all your X into one basket with him.
Yeah, especially with the OD not having great impact right now.
It is indeed going to be BKB for MOBA here, so if there's any doubt whether MOBA and BZM
was the same person, here's your confirmation that they are two different players.
Yeah, I was wondering about that, yep.
You never know. There's a lot of conspiracy theories out there. I've heard crazier shit.
OD Pixel watches some weird videos.
Norma, just gotta get jumped by Centaur in which doctor, and well, he is 7 out of 12 of his team's deaths on Marana.
So, the positive angle on this is, hey, your pores haven't died that much.
The negative angle is kind of feeding.
So I don't know which one you like better, I'd say you know, you like negative things better in general.
I wouldn't say that.
I would say that.
I stray towards it.
I stray towards the darkness.
I gravitate toward negativity.
I mean, I wish Jar Jar Banks was a Sith Lord, so.
One of those, that's a conspiracy theory.
Okay.
It argues negative, but it's positive for the franchise.
Hmm.
Do you even know what movie I'm talking about?
Yes.
Okay, that's good.
Can you prove it, please, and say it?
Interstellar.
That's right.
George R. Mayden appears in Interstellar as Matthew McConaughey's son.
That's another conspiracy theory you might not have heard of though.
Midtower got the juice, still has a minute on the ages, so just trying to get whatever
advantage he can.
And it looks like, well, Nemesis is not particularly interested in trying to do something about it.
As I say that, though, actually maybe...
And with the red shadow, though...
...a little bit slow to the party, but they are gonna start it.
30 seconds on Aegis.
Gonna try to nullify...
And the right click should be enough to burn Light No. 1.
I think I'm gonna jump on the set in the meantime.
Telekinesis trying to save up the PKB and the guns.
So now it's gonna try to run away.
I think on top of that, we've gotten the juice.
Sampy basically nullified thanks to the Astral Spear,
now it's like he's trying to buy some save, but the nullifier still applied.
Gonna get right to the gun by Saberlight and Jackie Boy as Joker comes in for more.
Wanted to go on the Niku Pasta BKB finally in retreat.
Two dead for Navi.
I ended that.
Oh, they want us to get a pike and to banish here.
He can blink in three, and this is probably gonna be a bit too crazy to find,
but yeah, that nullifier reveal.
Until Windranger gets her BKB, which she does have just now,
So it was the one fight you were going to get with that really nice value out of Saberlight.
And I think from that perspective they probably weren't really expecting to get challenged there.
They're like, yeah, if they go forgot the juice, maybe they can kill him once or twice or not the second time.
But no, shut down by Saberlight's itemization.
Yep, so finally Nemesis doing something.
Yeah, they got MKB, excuse me, now on Sven as well, so a secondary problem.
Okay, all right. I say now he's how far away is he 1500?
Then he will be a secondary threat for God the juice. This is anyone's game
Looks like Shaberlight is opting for acts now 70 KB. I think of a percentage of our games would you?
PMA just being annoying for now
Or set to try to save him
It's on the Astro, and that will save Jackie. Now the question is can they burn through this half man half horse has got the juice.
I feel the focus fired correctly. Thanks to that invisibility, saving your life.
Gonna try to turn this around onto the windrunner. Already had these people got the juice. Had to turn the windrunner away.
Here the God's been coming on as well. Stunned. Double, forced out for the OD. There's the connection. This is onto Rubik though.
No nullifier flight to Hanseus to wait out the Ghost Center. We'll get that killed.
Might be it though, Riddies on the high ground at 10-0-TV, but he'll be canceled, so it'll be two supports dead for Nagi.
This line-up is causing them a lot of issues.
Saberlight just pops his ult, runs in his army of summons.
Riddies and Daze are struggling to find any sort of footing in the fight, and they get so much vision for the OD to get Astral's with.
This is a really cool last pick.
Working out great for them.
Yeah, how many of the games that we've cast this turn and feel like it's anyone's game at 30 minutes?
I have to say for me it's less than half just going off memory like this patch. Yeah
Six months and it would be the same as 60 40 for Navi according to Dota plus. Yeah
now. It's roughly I'd say 55-45 is pretty close. Considering how the last couple of
fights have gone, it's kind of a 50-50 game for me, honestly. Savorlight will be soloing
the Tormentor and another, and we can summon Wilson one-sided. And he'll howl the Tormentor
as well. Joakim gets a rocket pack. It's a jet pack, but yes, he does get it. It's really
a difference yes rocket propulsion syndrome I understand but jet pack sounds
so cool and rocket pack sounds like well he already has rocket flare gotta have a
little bit of variety in your use of language that's why we can't say to a
high degree to everything
Joachim finding a haste or it might be his lifesaver here actually I've never
mind he's just gonna walk straight into that. Look what I found guys! Wrong way.
This ward is actually real good right now for the dire, getting tons of information about Nemesis's
whereabouts. They're all on top of it. Clicking job stop on to two. Focus fire now on to Jack.
We'll have to BKB so the shackle's not gonna do much to use that to get away.
Just to try to reinitiate the ancient creep falls
Follow the damn Jaffa for Saber like goes out the window
Get the arrow
No, they cannot
It's so funny to see OD with Arcane orb hitting him for like a 20th of his health. It's quite pitiful
Moby just has a
Lot of growth to find in this game if he does get there. It's still a good hero
against Centaur later, for sure. It's like, you know, pure damage is always good against
heroes with high HP and armor. But, yeah, he needs another two items before that starts
becoming remotely interesting, because his first item will be BKB and that's not going
to give him any damage.
I can also tell in these situations that Navi have a pretty clear game plan against
the Lycan. Riddie, or excuse me, Niko is committing quite a bit to killing off summons. Like, whenever
these wolves running he's gonna light strike array them he's gonna start
telling the ancient creed because the supports need that protection
birdies now with a solar crust very good for as long as it's not getting
nullified off it's very strong this game and Lena will be going for the pike so
we saw yesterday when Nico was playing Lena he went into Daedalus rape here I
I'm wondering if he's gonna go a magic or a physical round here. You can get pike and then still get axe
Afterwards this hero has multiple different builds
I would expect the physical specifically against Lycan because it's just really nice to kill off all his stuff very quickly
We'll see I just breathed forgot the juice and yeah completed
and acts for saber light so we're gonna see the Sven turn into a wolf oh yeah
or if he misclicks the OD oh yeah obey melee OD that sounds really hype or
maybe he's gonna turn one of his wolves into a wolf you can't click a wolf
sadly well you can't click your Dom creep zone but you can't like and bites an
allied hero or creep hero.
Oh, have we seen that before?
I'm not sure.
I mean, I'm sure in some of those instances.
Petrify creep and wolf form is actually no joke, I guess, but...
Obviously you want to use it on Sven.
That means Agz on Lycan is always a good choice.
It's going to fight the Sven and they're going to smoke.
Okay, how long does this last again?
Not long enough for them to find a hero, if you like.
Can't out the Lena though, if they go straight to her.
Yes they do, they find her and she dies in a single stun to the Wolf Sven.
It lasts 25 seconds Wolfbite.
It's quite long.
How long does regular shapeshift last?
Also 25, so it's just the same.
Has a talent though right?
And the hook shot initiation, BKB popped by the span, almost killing the full runner.
Finally does through the evasion, has the MKB and now Centaur will get out, but still
the two biggest kills on the map, they find the rubik on top of it and now Roche is up,
so this should be a freebie for Nemesis and they are looking pretty.
definitely are under, I mean I guess the same just goes on Jackie but...
same.
But you're right, Lichen does have a shape for duration talent on 20. I don't know if that
affects the duration of both but I would think it does. I would think it does. I think they just
share, you know what I'm saying, jump here. And it's just, like the panel was talking about,
in this tournament, Jackie on melee strength heroes with blink initiation and a stun has
has just been the name of the game for them with Tiny and Sven.
And they banned the Tiny first phase,
led through the Sven in the second,
and Jackie to no surprise is going to take that Sven.
Perhaps there's going to be an adjustment
from now that game number two is banning out both.
Is this seemingly, this player is on another level
when he gets to play these heroes?
Yeah, I mean, his win rate doesn't look that impressive,
but his play style, when he plays,
he's just, it's the confidence,
it's the way the team plays around it.
Yeah.
I think one of the criticisms I have is they play every lineup like this regardless of what it's doing.
Yeah, and that sometimes bites him in the ass, but with Sven at least it makes sense that you're waiting for him to get these three, maybe four items and then you get ultra aggressive.
And obviously he's getting enabled now by the Lightning.
Yep, who's buying AC next by the way, so we'll be even more in the way of physical damage.
Still no BKB then, huh? Okay.
He doesn't feel like he's needed it so far, he hasn't died on saver lane, so that's fair.
O.D. has BKB and is working on a hex, for a little bit.
Rocket, check that mission.
You made it here with timing.
Joe, stop.
Get some vision.
Jackie wants to find somebody in that wolf form.
That fucking DKB, that is not the one you want to go on.
He's got the juice, has to use his DKB now and turn.
If they reset or not, it's a double wolf will retreat.
The stock is three, hero!
Where's the follow-up though?
LSA's knocking him in.
Not going to hit, rather.
We get the four seconds.
Well, it's Jackie.
We're going to focus on this unfortunate step.
Instead, Xaze eclipsed particularly them.
They're going to burn through the gauges to start this out,
so no guns right now for Jackie.
And they're saving way off timing.
And of course Xaze will be there into the dragon slave that banished to save.
Got the focus fireman.
Half the damage on this, half the skill of the life on this.
So, trying to get to the high ground,
nothing double hooks up into the double-double edge,
it's a quadruple edge for PMA.
He gets the kills as Moebae now on the run and it's slowed up.
He's going to try to blink but he'll be hounded here.
He's going to get it off.
He's going to cancel triple kill for the Centaur.
Uh oh, Saberlight.
Well, he's fine.
He has a haste.
Very awkward fight for Nemesis.
Yeah, this is not how you want the fight to start like you pointed out.
I think the biggest problem is that Sven pops his BKB really early trying to jump Centaur
and the Windranger and doesn't really get any assistance or connection that matters.
So then we're back to good old Sven gets kind of VHV runs out and you just die twice
You're gonna see the replay here. This is a bit further in the fight already
Really nice triple whoop-stop there
Beautiful stuff PMA that was a she was post on by the way would not have hit free without screw
Yeah, just a really good game for PMA and clearly it's necessary
So far, he is putting the team on his back. His net worth is unreal. 27k soon. Second in the game is Sven. 3,500 behind him.
Hard carry Centaur. That's crazy.
Was he able to blink out of Sheamus? How does that work?
No, at least I don't think you can, unless maybe if you have like the absolute perfect angle on your blinks you're doing zero turning.
But even if that were the case, Lena was in position, excuse me, because they saw what way he was facing when he vanished himself, so Lena just goes in that direction.
So the only blink play as against the Shiva would be if Lena's waiting arms, there's like no way to survive there.
It's 100% us.
Okay, see item will be the agonist scepter. Yeah, well his next item is the AC that just delivered. Yeah next next
Already, yeah, the axe. Okay, I'm packing his blink. Okay
What's that farm with the helm, what can you do? I assume this will be swapped in and it's fine
Okay, now he backed back the AC
Man, that's a real first world problem shit right there. What should I backpack my dagger on my AC at 36 minutes?
he could probably I would definitely argues just put the gem on someone else and let him
just run around with everything on him but very back and forth game number one is the
lower bracket here and that means you're out of the tournament if you lose the series
and I'm not sure if he knew that now it's new to me how double Lm works when I will
get top six guaranteed.
Take down of the creep here.
It quite a while for the next row, so
wondering if you can see their team are going to try to take some initiative or
if they just chillin' far.
What do you think about us spending choice of 25 talent?
Do you think there's any consideration or is this just what you always do?
because I think an extra second stun here is actually really valuable when you look at their lineup.
It's time for Lycan to maul them, it's time for Odie to get some swings in for yourself, obviously.
I think without Daedalus, he's not bursting as hard as he could.
Yeah, I actually agree. Without any crit, this 50% god strength damage feels a lot less interesting.
But you'll get it eventually.
You'll get it before 30.
I think absolutely you'll get it, right?
It feels weird to see a Sven build without Crit in a gas divide at some point, right?
Then where's Satanic?
Do I guess the boots?
Just you get rid of the boots as well as Mask.
Yeah, I don't know how much Satanic is going to matter in this particular game.
from Joker to start things out.
I'm not thinking a lot of damage back
before he turns into a moving game.
The focusing on the center,
not who you want to start to fight out on.
Maron is already dead.
Joker unlikely to be another sacrifice for Nemesis.
And this time they do disengage.
I'm gonna say that if Obey's sticking around
as a 3 versus 5, I'm looking at KB.
Sayings he clips doing considerable amount of damage
but not enough for a kill.
He's really just getting healed up
and I'm gonna focus fire and destroy his Obey.
Again, odd decisions to continue to fight
despite losing most of your lineup.
I mean, that makes zero sense. She just gets the hell out of there.
I think the initiation in the first place was not really that useful.
Clockwork is gonna hook into the Lena with no backup, and Lena has a shield run, so if you don't nullify that off, then...
They don't have buyback on OD. I mean, they could try to threaten Throne potentially.
Thought I'd play it safe with the mid lane into bottom.
Those nemesis are fueling the pressure a little bit. These last couple of fights are not, like, I don't...
I just think not really theoretically sound how they're trying to access the enemy team.
They keep running into the Centaur and keep trying to hit him, which is just completely pointless with the line that they have right now.
It feels like every fight that's gone well to them, they are the ones initiating that one.
Yeah, it's trying to put a nice in.
Drow push.
Okay.
That's correct.
What is that even mean?
The Centaur has nothing.
Yeah.
It means there's cooldowns.
Oh, it's just his ultimate mean.
Yeah.
pretty far, I think.
BMA will stop onto the line again.
You can see the wolf is actually destroyed up to here.
So Sven finally able to get through somebody as BMA,
finally starting to feel some damage.
We'll get Astral, and now he's surrounded.
He gets a nullifier on the wish truck and still gets away.
He will get through this beefy horse.
So two kills onto Na'vi.
Now five acts.
So what can you do here?
So Sven does have a crit through being a wolf, right?
That's true.
But the thing about that is it's not a crazy one.
It's not reliable and you're not going to have it all the time.
And yeah, he is going to buy this, okay.
But you saw the crits there with Shapeshift.
It was like 2.2k before reductions, which means on Centaur,
that's probably like a 1,000 swing or an odd way less, right?
How much armor does this guy have?
75% physical resistance on Centaur.
All right. This is two cores without buyback.
Is this going to be a barrage now for nemesis?
Yep, probably.
How does this happen?
Feels like the Navi special, they put the roach banner down.
Apparently they have.
Still in their in-game play.
They're going to switch the route into...
Got riddies.
Notifying how long they're there, but they get the astral into the Sanities and down he goes.
They go top too.
This is two lanes for both teams.
This is insane.
How did Navi not cleanly get that a get out?
Great question, Senator. What will we be asking ourselves for the next 20 minutes
if this game will drag on and all likelihood?
But it is an exciting one.
Oh, they'll only settle for one.
Respecting the Windranger return.
All right.
Okay.
I think they could have at least got the range if they wanted, but...
Playing it safe.
6k in Jacky's, uh, in, uh, pocket?
Pocket, that's right.
Baby, count in pocket.
Yeah, he's gonna buy it.
He's buying out the Daedalus.
I would argue, I mean, what do you think about this?
I know MKB is needed for Winner, but...
Wait, what do you just saw? He saw those treads, okay.
Is there any consideration just getting the MKB later?
And getting the Daedalus first?
It's not even mattering, it's everybody else.
Can you have Nullifier?
Yeah, it's debatable, I don't know. I think...
I think in this game I kind of like the MKB first,
because I think they have tools to deal with the other heroes and windrangers the primary issue.
So I didn't really mind it. On both sides, Rosh is up in 5 seconds,
Jokov gets initiated on Asheville the same.
And here, he's turned into a wolf.
I try to get the juice, I try to first brew him, they do!
They've gotta get 90 seconds, nowhere to get, how is it possible that they get this twice in a row?
Just standing out there is Niku.
It's the LSA onto the Wolf, the real one in this case.
The whole Firefly is just gonna run away to the Kobe and his BKB.
Looking to continue the fight.
And the first damage I get from Jackie, killing off Miku this time.
Centaur is next on the list, trying to get through the OD.
Get pushed back by the Cod, another burst of Jackie.
It's a double for him, but four kills onto Navi.
And honestly, that might just be game if they can get to the base.
And Noddy are pushed. Looks like Noddy managed to find a way to clutch defeat from the jaws of victory.
That was so strange. I mean you've got to lick it, Svetton, with both form is kind of ridiculous.
It's not like, oh my god, how does he not react in time to getting jumped there?
It's more, why is he there? Yeah, it's hard. Does this formation for your team make sense in that
given situation like you've got to keep your composure the whole way through and this is one of those problems
against
The stronger teams the nemesis that navi has faced in the past as they get further in these tournaments it gets like top eight top six
And then it just seems like there's these like blunder moments like this is not
You cannot be there, right?
Like actually in front of everybody else on the windbreaker against the team with like three or four blink daggers
Oh, they're going for tier fours, by the way. Still four dead for Navi. Win-runner's gonna be up.
These towers are extremely dead, and now the Ancient is exposed.
Can Navi defend the jumping from the roof?
They can get the stun-up with the Titanis, his focus fire now under-spent.
Not doing any damage there, he's gotta focus the buildings, and why not?
Gigi's called. Navi, he's plundered for that, and getting one goes to Nemesis.
That one. That one feels real bad.
You get the two lanes of Erex, you don't get a clean disengage, you end up losing two heroes and two sets in one set in return plus the Aegis.
Sven gets a Daedalus from the six cake, all that he found and he don't obliterate your entire team afterwards.
Richard!
I love that, it's just not even doing throws anymore, are we not, Sven? Brilliant. Model professional, of course.
But look, this one is a surprise.
You heard Cinder and choking at the end,
choking on the impossible defeat of Navi.
They were in control.
It was looking good.
We were all prepped, by the way,
like just to let you know a little bit at home
about how the sausage is made.
We have to pick the graphics and the clips in advance.
It was all Navi, we were feeling really good about it.
And then Nemesis, of course, with a comeback.
Where did it all go wrong, Lacoste?
Yeah, I think we're going to be seeing that one slightly later, just a pinpoint what actually went wrong, but I think Navi, like the way they play, we've seen this so many times, we've seen it yesterday when they were playing against LGD, that game three, kind of in the bag, just ready to close it out.
You have this unkillable centaur and then Niku gets caught out of position then it's PMA getting caught up position
And even though he looks unkillable
Then it's got the juice afterwards and this
Combination between the heroes like we something we said multiple times so far for nemesis
If you give Jackie strength initiator with a blink this guy will carry the game for you and that he did
There's also an issue of discipline here, you know
Okay, once again, I will preemptively say we will talk about all the good things Nemesis did in just a second, but let's just focus them now for real quick.
Because it is disappointing to see it happen over and over again. We have such high hopes for these guys, but there was a lack of discipline when you're pushing and you take the two racks and you should be happy with it.
Even one Rax, when these heroes on Nemesis are dead,
and you can just back off in it's boring, and it's not flashy,
and everyone hated when Falcons would do it,
and everyone hated when one would do it.
But they want TI's doing this.
You've got to do it.
That is the state of Dota.
If you don't have buyback, you can't take these risks,
because what is going to happen is a team,
like Nemesis, is going to clutch a fight, go down mid,
you get desperate, they clutch another fight, and then all of a sudden the game is over.
In a two-minute window, the game is devastation of the highest possible degree.
Yeah, and they're gonna clutch a fight, thanks to Jackie Boy.
Yeah, he's in a bit of a different level. Like, we saw Jackie before on his previous team.
I think he's having the best tournament of his life, kinda. I think he's playing the best
that we have seen so far in every single game, he's on point, whether we talked about what
he's getting out of the lane, how he's transitioning that into mid game, how active he gets to
be with the certain heroes as well, and I'm looking at his hero damage as well, 45,000
hero damage dealt by Sven, definitely like and helped with the Agadamn Scepter, this
It was a great combo, it's insane what it can do, but also the items that he picked up picking up this MKB, they had Nullifier as well on Saberlight making sure that they can lock down onto Windranger, knowing that there's not going to be any 4 staffs, there's not going to be Windrun, and they can kill her from 100 to 0.
Saberlight went 5-0 in 20 in that game. Bro, he didn't die. A single time.
He said it's going to be a
good like and game and he
really delivered. People
forget that Saber like played
the zoo heroes. It's
essentially how he burst on the
scene. These were his
specialist heroes. He's
always going to have a like
and then his luck. He's
really trying to just show up
to this tournament and have a
good performance. Yeah. When a
guy goes 5020 in a game like
that, you know, he's purely
focused on himself and it
looks good. A lot of the time
the team plays actually better
It's actually better when you do this because you just don't die because you don't die you've more net worth so you can help your team
I'll get it. Just don't die, huh? Just don't die. It's gonna die. I got a tattooed on my arm here. I think about it every day
It's good advice. Why don't we take a look at this tattoo tower fight in about five minutes?
It's all kind of happening. Yeah, this is where Navi felt pretty strong
They had ages available and
and overextending a little bit. Nullifier was already completed here on Savorlight, so they get him once quickly.
This is something that Jackie tried a couple of times, the Focus Center, to see actually how much damage he's dealing with the Pest of Waters.
And then, got the juice, he gets caught one more time. This is pre-BKB, Astral has been used, and then...
You have Jokim, who's also waiting with the Hookshot. They're not going all in with all the heroes that they have.
like they're not focusing Kailah just to kill that wind ranger.
Instead, they get multiple hero kills out of it,
and they are also going to be getting the kill here on today.
So triple kill coming out for Sven and looking at that graph,
that's like Mariana's trench deep type of a graph.
I'm sorry, dude, but not dying in a game like this is so impressive.
That is, if they lose and he hasn't died,
then it's a nightfall type situation and we're making jokes about it.
But having the eventual comeback,
you can see why players are valuing just,
I'm going to keep myself alive.
Keep that net worth going.
And then in the late game, having all of that impact,
what an insane inventory.
Yeah, it was fat.
You know, Jackie was having all the good times being turned into a wolf
and, you know, the, the carry type guy, but Saberlight was really supporting him from behind.
Yeah.
Also, if you like that graph being incorporated into our broadcast,
I think it was, is it two doors guy did it?
Yeah.
Shout out to you.
It's certainly in hands.
So, yeah, I think it's a good thing.
I it's certainly enhanced what we talk about. I think it's really good when you see that visual representation of just how
Swingy it was at the end because if I was to draw if you said to me
Explain Navi as a team, but you can only use lines
That's it. That's pretty much it. That is it. That's why I'm in a private
Yeah, that's right. That's right. That's right. And do you want to see Navi's demise in a nutshell?
I would love to. I think we've got some clips, Q, though.
We got some clips.
Coming down to Cobble together at the last minute for reasons.
And this is the classic.
Niku, it's Fen versus Lina.
It's a struggling matchup for Lina for sure.
But then using the same ulti that he used to kill Niku,
TP's mid, and then they kill the Windrunner as well.
And at this point, the game wasn't even decided.
Like, Navi gets a Rax after this point.
But this is just how back and forth the game was.
Going the other way, you have PMA who hit these
beautiful stuns.
Man, he was trying so hard.
He was on point, he definitely was.
It was like three or four times in this fight,
he hits a multiple hero stun.
I liked the combination between him and Bayes
stealing Astral Imprisonment where if Centaur gets focused,
he puts him under and he has such a high region
that he regained up to like almost 100% HP
being in that Astral Impresiveness, so you can't really focus him.
And this was one of the fights where Navi, they looked very, very good.
I believe they're gonna kill Mobe as well.
And they needed these type of fights.
This is also the fight that wasn't shown on the screen,
but this is where Jackie starts to hit Centaur again.
Again, he wanted to see how much damage he's dealing
because Centaur's too tanky to see if he can maybe kill him
with the support of OD, with the pure damage.
It didn't work out for him, so he focuses different heroes, a little bit of a, maybe, chaotic fight coming up for Nemesis,
but in the other ones, they focus Gatt the Juice, they focus Niku from the mid lane, and then they kill Sentor last.
Indeed. Thanks for breaking it down for us. We're going to a break. Turns out we asked Navi,
are you going to win this one? And they went, nah, we'll see if they can turn it around after the break.
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It's as simple as that. But if you do get stuck, which you might, you can say hint.
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that one for sure. I'm the biggest guy around with the highest strength gain. I'll throw a rock at
your head if you come to my lane. Who am I? Rock. I mean tiny? Oh. Too many letters. You can use a
hint. Primal beast. Yes you are right. Indeed it is primal beast. When I'm used someone goes
into the void when they reappear two of themselves they must avoid what am i
i need a hint yes i think you do oh this type of hint yes yes yeah you got one more hint all right
there might be an item right into the void or a spell when they reappear two of themselves they
must avoid. What spell creates two of the hero?
Skip. Skip. Alright, cool. Let's go back. When Pike alone just isn't quite doing enough,
buy a shard and escape those fights that are tough.
So it's a spell and it is a shard spell and it helps you get away.
Shard spell helps you get away. This is a hard game.
It's a tricky one. You got eight hints left in one minute.
Okay, one more hint. One more hint.
Up to 3 per question, do you want to use a couple more maybe?
Yes for sure.
Yeah, alright, let's get them all out, let's get them all out.
What?
Ah, it's Windranger's Shard, right?
I mean, not Shard, Windranger's...
It's not Windranger.
Well, do I lose even more than I...
I can help you a little bit, okay?
It's Sniper's Shard.
Sniper's Shard, okay.
I don't know, like, like something like, I'm not cool, like, I've never played something.
Alright, concussive grenade, concussive grenade, let's go, next one, next one, next one.
I strike foes down with a blast from my tip, but no one seems to build me anymore.
Rip.
What am I?
Yeah, I'm gonna be the worst player, like the worst gamer on this level for...
You can't get it?
It's always hard.
The hint, hint, you got 15 seconds, one hint.
What?
D?
What item?
Blast energy from the tip, come on, you can get this daze.
Dagon, okay, Dagon.
Yes, take your head, look, one more, four seconds, let's go.
an excellent use of a thousand gold if you want to be strong take a firm hold
thousand gold or a little yeah we'll take it we'll take it that was inside that was a time
all right a grass good job well seems like i got the record records like the worst one in this game
i think you did really well thank you looking back on disruption how do you feel about that one
disruption what do you mean yeah this is the one you couldn't get that you had to skip
when i used someone goes into the void when they reappear two of themselves they must avoid
That's a good, that's a good one.
That's a good one, alright, I'll take that.
Yeah, yeah, I think it was tough, it was really difficult, you had some hard ones in there.
But you did do well, and there were moments I thought you were going to get on a roll,
but in the end it wasn't quite enough.
Alright, well, nevertheless, thanks for coming to play.
Thank you, thank you, I'm ready to go.
Good luck in the rest of the tournament.
Thank you so much.
Cheers.
Welcome back for Na'Vi fans, the worst phrase in all of the world is Deja Vu, but it is
happening again, call it Deja V maybe, we'll workshop that, but they are up against it
again and bizarrely against Nemesis.
I would just say this, I think Na'Vi pound for pound, man for man, I think Na'Vi are
a better team and yet they just keep having these moments in games where they cannot close.
That doesn't matter if you're like better on paper or not. Something that a lot of other
teams throughout the history struggled with is inconsistency. Like finding like not even to be
I would say tier one and a half consistent team would still be better than fluctuate between
being the best team in the world and also bombing out of some tournaments not making the playoff.
So they need to find that because Navi, like we saw the LAN results as well, it's also like all over the place.
They just can't find that. They can't find consistency to be able to get into that tier one.
And it just feels like these type of games, I'm also a little worried for them because this is game one coming into the second game,
knowing they're going to be seeing that graph after the game.
This is pretty much the first thing you do after the game ends to see what actually happened.
Like, how did you actually lose that game?
And I'm not sure if this is going to affect them because these players are still very, very young.
I believe, even if you're on paper, the better team, but you can't practically apply it.
This is just theory versus application. You're not the better team.
You have to practically apply these things. They have to get over this curse.
you know liquid dealt with the second place curse for a long time and it seemed
true unbreakable and then they ended up winning a TI so it is absolutely
possible to break these curses you know even this guy on your screen here was
kind of part of that story when he was on gaming gladiators so there is a lot
of experience there on Navi where they can pull from that and I do believe that
they can get over it I could see you a long time I could see why they picked up
him as a coach, because he has quite a lot of experience, but he also needs to be able to
overcome these huge obstacles that Navi is dealing with right now. Nemesis, they are going to open up
with Marana this time around. They don't have the second pick, because I've already said I like what
they did in that game number one with the clockwork immediately Marana out of the phase. And I got to
say this Lena I'm not feeling the pick I'm just I just feel something is very
off with the hero she did fine in the lane but the hero falls off like her
damage output in these super late game fights it's it's not there we saw
yesterday where he tried to go for the divine rapier it did work out briefly and
then he lost it couldn't find another one did you think that they were gonna say
even pick something else.
Yeah, that's good.
It's like a German accent.
Can I ask a little bit?
Because obviously, Lina, I feel in the not-too-distant past,
as in TI and around that,
a bit of a terror, you know?
Like, you could flex it into the carry roll,
could go mid, shits out a ton of damage.
Doesn't seem to be doing that right now.
So may I ask my analysts why?
Like, it didn't feel like it was that severe a change.
very much change you have to play it to feel it jumping between the camps is
very significant if you can't keep the stacks of very souls going it's you're
not gonna be able to like get as much farm her attack speed got reduced as
well her damage got reduced with that insane attack speed of it also impacts
her more so I want to see if they're gonna be bending out Sven I think this
is one of the better heroes against Lena we saw it in one of the clips as well
where she dies to basically four hits, this was supposed to be your mid laner.
And something we talked about as well, once we saw the Sven pick coming out,
there isn't a hero that Sven is afraid of in most of these fights.
When he jumps in with a BKB, if you can kite him, if he's not afraid of any of the spells,
he gets to hit multiple times, he gets to delete one hero, and then it's 4v5, and they get the reset.
I
Like I like this Fenben because I agree it is a really good answer to Lena
however, there was simply a skill issue in the previous game you have to be able to be Niku or BCY and
You adjust the situation where Jackie is just not able to catch you
He was when he died in some of these situations. He was
playing very aggressive. He was front-lining. He was standing close to
creep waves when he was when you could be ghost pushing the wave from the trees
right and being a lot safer but he was playing with that confidence and he
simply got mugged by Jackie like straight up. That's just what it is. He got
mugged by him and in a situation like that you can blame the hero or you can
say like I just need to play better you know and I think Niku is more than
capable of doing that. Would you have preferred to see him maybe take something
like an invoke of them over the Lena.
It was available.
Both. Can you can you first pick that? Can you first face that?
Both are the same idea where I think you're picking for the
comfort of me to and saying, OK, we just need something that
you're going to outskill with, right? And he probably just
decided for himself. Lena is that hero. I bet they asked him
like, which one do you want? And they picked the Lena because
he wanted it.
same draft for nemesis yeah I feel like it's strong it is strong the
combination I also want to see maybe slightly earlier rotations that did
happen earlier just to make sure that this Lena is gonna suffer even more in
this matchup put the clockwork put down the cogs blood grenade land an arrow
will we see a like him without the Sven combo that's why they picked the dark
willow this year doesn't die gonna like him they I mean if they wanted to they
I could replace Sven with something like Ursa.
That has been something that's in Jackie's wheelhouse.
However, I think, yeah, because of the willow
and probably some other hero, I love this.
I wanted to talk about the BKB piercing abilities,
especially Beastmaster.
If you have this hero who runs in
and is not afraid of anything,
you are kind of giving in five, six, seven seconds
of free reign, and now they pick two of those.
You have Beastmaster's Roar, one of the longest BKB piercing abilities, same goes for Bane.
So this time around, I don't think Jackie is going to be having that easy of a time, jumping into a fight.
Then you could see Saberlight be like, oh man, like...
I wouldn't have said nothing in my life now, yeah.
It is Beastmaster and Bane, two single target BKB piercing disables into OD.
Bane's ulti literally just stops if you imprison.
and Beastmaster obviously you're in prison during the roars for the entire duration.
So it's not by any means a free game, at least in terms of their disables. However,
we've talked about Jackie looking really good on these like Blink melee initiator heroes.
A lot of them suffer to Beastmaster in lane. So that's why I like this pick. It's kind of blocking
out a lot of Jackie's comfort hero pools. And especially based on the previous game,
We would think they're gonna replace the spend with something that's also melee
But it's hard against the beast
Yeah, Jackie definitely been one of the more versatile carries terror being a terrible aid is a
Pseudo melee, but I think the one time he played it. He lost with it. And it was quite a devastating game
Well again, we've said it we'll repeat the point because why not there's always new people tuning in
When Nemesis win, Big Beefy Blink initiate a carry, that's when Jackie is going to mess you up.
Yeah, but I like this approach a lot. I think this hero is very, very underrated.
We can see the win rate 66% so far in the playoffs. He has been played three times
and won every single game as well. This hero is very, very good when it comes down to laning
against the heroes. And you made a bunch of good points in the green room, not on broadcast,
It was the cause of the game.
Obviously.
It was fire.
You were talking about this hero and how one of the best counters to Timber saw?
Timber, yeah.
If you look at on Dota buff, you would think that Clinkz is not good against Timber because
a physical damage hero into a hero that has a ton of armor, but his innate is reducing
armor whenever the skeletons are hitting, and it's percentage based.
So a hero that has incredibly high armor like Timber really suffers when it comes to playing
against clings.
And Dom tagged on to that about just do you think this is really good, but you think this
is just right?
Yeah, a lot of these carry heroes have been nerfed and the clings seem to be like the
new meta because he tends to create a lot of chaotic fights with the agonimceptor build.
It's easy to siege the high ground.
There's a lot of damage on the ground that a lot of supports really hate to play into.
I mean he also eats the board. That's yes. That's the big the big thing here
Yeah, I think TB could also potentially be a good pick for Navi if they want to go that route against OD like you build butterfly
That's one of the issues for OD in this matchup as well
You can build which pledge which does have two strikes on the hit
But every other hit you do not have it and also claims of course being all physical damage their damage is I
Would say a little bit limited to supports are very good, but they don't have
uh
Too much damage to pump into these heroes like tb great call on the tb. It's gone and lancer is out
That's the other one i was thinking
Against yeah, and we saw navi bust that out and uh
to complete the cis set of
Classic carries and um and it unfortunately lost so oh the death prophet. Oh, he's he's happy. He's like they ban this dog
Shit, that's so funny
That's so funny
Because he doesn't know what he's going to be playing into and a lot of these high armor heroes clanks PL
Sorry, TB PL. They are gone. So it could potentially been a good debt profit game
We talked about it before the first game because this is something that you might need to pick because they are playing quite a lot of witch doctor
It could be just a casual centaur for them if they want to go debt route. Oh, it's banned never mind
Okay, just another beefy boy in the time. No, I did this might have been the first pick of the tournament
I don't remember seeing the hero. Okay, there you go. Two picks
Zero win rate zero win rate you you did mention Ursa
Hmm. It's very very good against both clings and tight hunter against OD
He can't save everybody
but it does look good.
Yeah, I mean the OD matchup is interesting because Ursa doesn't like when his focus target is getting imprisoned and saved.
But on the flip side, the status resistance does work perfectly fine against the OD imprisoned.
So imprisoning Ursa is not something that you can really do.
So it can go both ways.
If Ursa can switch targets, there's a lot of really good disables for him.
to if they can, you know, gank in these side lanes like Ursa plus Lena, dude, this is so
much burst damage. There's so much ganky potential. There's so much damage. They have, they have
good roast taking abilities, you know, objectives are going to be, are going to be pretty easy.
But I feel like Nemesis has a very well rounded draft too. They have a really strong carry.
They have an excellent team fighter that can stand in front of towers, middle laner who
should do pretty well. They can set up for arrow. Clockwork, Murana, we saw last game
It's a great ganking duo.
Just tied doing this draft for you guys.
Yeah, I think they needed to have somebody to play around with
because your OD, your Clanks, it's not much of a teamfight.
It's a lot of single AoE,
even though Clanks of Aghanims does some.
So there's OD ulti, but we're talking about
someone who's gonna tie this whole draft together
and the Tidehunter is gonna do the thing.
Problem is he's playing into Ursa,
a hero that he can't crack enough.
The Fury swipes from Ursa,
so that's gonna be a bit of an issue.
And this draft can be a little bit slow, I would say.
Like, unless they are going to be having that good of a time
in the side lanes, but I also talked about how they need to play
through the OD with these heroes.
Problem is, if you play too early,
something that you've seen yesterday in LGD's game,
or not play at all, this type of a game
where you have Ursa early on,
who can punish this Tithe Hunter if left alone.
So I want to see a little bit of protection.
I think they need to balance these things out because like going all in onto the mid lane could make Saberlight not have that good of a time
Clicks would be more than fine, but I'm kind of liking what Navi drafted for themselves in this one
We'll see if you're right, but for now we're going to see why they drafted what they drafted with Nomad
Thank you, senior Lewis. Yes indeed. I'm here with see why
How much in that break did you focus on last game and how much were you just looking forward to the next one?
I mean a little bit on last game mostly in the sense of I think we lost ourselves a bit
Like I think we could also easily have won this game like early game before is a lot of unnatural stuff
I think for our heroes like for linux and the thing we do like obviously we also threw the game like maybe they also
Fru a bit, you know, it was like kind of clowny game I would say
So a little bit of that just in terms of like saying calm and you know trying to focus on what's good for your hero and so on
But overall it's also about moving to next game. I think we could have had an easier draft overall
I think we gave them a bit what they want with like their Sven and stuff like against Kent
But but yeah, mostly just tell them to reset and like we go next we get a new good draft and hopefully we can play better
And I wanted to ask are the problems which you ran into last game something you've talked about before you've run into before
And do you have plans in place for sort of dealing with that?
I mean those specific problems, maybe not I mean maybe but it's more about like the concept of sometimes
You draft things you like but in miscount or it happened a bit like when we had a bargain scrims
See him which is kind of like a good combo, but like we could also win that game
But it's like you just need to like think a bit on the fly
You know need to be a bit like crisp and clutch, you know in terms of like how you approach it like, you know
That's the main thing. Yeah, and now we move into this game. You've got yourself this ursa
You know the God of these are so it is this his game or is there a risk of him getting kited at all
He sounded very confident in the other side
I know he's a very very good Ursa player. Ursa as a hero has been a bit sus, I would say lately
But it is like against double melee like clocktide
I suspect and they have and we have Bane so they can't really pull waves that easily
So I suspect he'll have a good game and I believe I can carry on the hero
So true Queen. Thank you very much CY and good luck in this game number two
Thank you. Thank you game two upon us Navi feeling like they should have won that carry
We all feel like they should have won that game one
I suppose, and now it's an elimination game in this elimination series. Nemesis have a life to deal with
or a life to bank on, I suppose. What do you think of the lineups here? Because
I think they're going to need their life. Yeah, the Tidehunter 2px, 0% win rate, has not looked good
in the games that we've seen. I guess an Ursa who should just trash him. In terms of how to say
current Dota. Playing off laner against a melee hero, this is probably the worst possible
situation I can think of. You're playing a melee hero against Ursa and your 4 can't pull
because of Bane. So this lane, there is, I would say if Navi somehow don't smash this
lane, it's a massive let down. Like this has to be a given lane win. The Lina against
OD, based on last game, should also be a lane that Niku wins.
And then their bottom lane, the Beastmaster Willow against Clink's Clockwork.
That's a good one for Nemesis, but I actually think it's still a lane that PMA can maybe draw.
So in essence, I would say Navi are favorite in the laning stage, and then it's just a matter of converting it.
And let's see what I said clutching on, right?
That seems to be this team's biggest problem in playoffs is they get themselves into a good position, they have what it takes, and then...
There's always just like, and it's not a pattern necessarily either, what exactly goes wrong, the pattern is that something critical goes wrong.
Once they can beat that, this team can start making deep runs, and we'll see if they can stabilize here in game 2 for starters.
I'll say this team has kind of had that identity for, I mean they've been together pretty good amount of time, it's been a couple years, I want to say.
Uh, maybe a year and a half at this point most of the time.
It's longer than most rosters that aren't super duper top tier.
The thing is, they're kind of hovering in that 1.5 range.
They genuinely might be missing that voice of caution and reason in their games.
I would like to think that potentially that was a big role that Zayac was playing in this roster before they exchanged him for days.
who is a younger player.
Most successful rosters in Dota have at least one player that has like years of experience playing pro.
And this roster at this point kind of doesn't really have that, right?
Like, I guess, DAIS is the most experienced out of all of them, but doesn't have, like, let's say, five plus years of pro games in tier 1 Dota or anything.
The pressure that Saber-Lighted Norman are applying right now against Navi in this top lane.
When does this get super hard as a level 3?
Yeah, so they chose to lane Marana up here, so it's not hopeless, right?
Which is, I really like this pivot.
Also to play the clock with planks, that's another good lane.
My previous assessment was based on the expectation that they would keep playing the clock up top,
which they've done in every game on Joakim.
I see.
Like this, it's playable early, because you can play on Gush into Marana attacks.
She has a lot of, you know, just right quick prowess, good range.
don't expect him to win the lane down the stretch but the very least for now
it's giving Savorite a fighting chance. This was clocktied he would be doomed.
Riddies though. Yeah he might be dead. He's actually gonna kill it.
First slot to Norman on the Marana. Yeah got the juice walked off to pull since
he's low and Bane just being left out to dry here. Not a kill that you should be
getting in this lane. Like the goal of Marana in this lane is to give Tide a
fighting chance not to find kills like this so this is already performing above
expectation for me. That's unfortunate. Saberlight misses three CS in a row. The double-range creeps
doesn't sound unfortunate to me, but it's a very positive thinking about it. I'm actually very
surprised that you said unfortunate there instead of that was trash or terrible or awful or...
Why would I say such a thing? Because you're a very negative person by nature.
Why would you say that? Why wouldn't I?
Prove me wrong, say something fun, jolly, and upbeat.
God, you are a great human being.
Wow, that did not sound so castigate at all. You cast the test.
Thank you.
Mid lane, they low bait as well.
Action everywhere.
Looks like both have survived this top lane.
Yeah, Mobe and Niku are duking it out once more, just like in game one.
Both heroes pretty low, really trying to get any edge.
And similar to the first game, Niku is getting a slight bit more out of the net worth right now,
but I think Moby has leveled up his performance from the first game
Warming up here on the OD. It's a lot closer this time around
Yeah, that's good to see just need a warm-up game. It is morning after all
Just slightly in terms of the XP
And in terms of rotation from supports, what are we expecting here once it gets to that six-minute mark
Well, both teams have really good heroes to contest the runes with, so I wouldn't be surprised to see a 3v3 where everybody just comes over.
Riddies again on the receiving end.
Take an anchor, smash one more, attack, we'll duel him in.
Narmin doesn't have leap though, he's going to arm arrow the big creep before he dies.
Nice little heads up play there.
We'll get an urn for his troubles.
Okay, now we're kind of looking toward the same result made it as last game.
It's just a, you know, a little bit longer Niku to start building that gap to the OD,
but he does have it about 500 ahead now at five minutes.
I mean, would you say that that's expected, not just a player to player, but hero to hero?
I mean, I would definitely give Lena the edge in this lane in general, so it's not too surprising.
She also has the luxury of going to farm at a camp after killing or stacking for herself for later
She should pull ahead
Very nicely done
Star storm to follow Niku very low the night is gonna save him for the time being what we get on now is got the juice
Teepees in Niku does fall it'll be full of midlaners in all likelihood dying all of the astral giving some space for mow bait
No brain set juice or a shot catch up doesn't need it
He has the very large arms to reach across the river to get back killed, so...
Oh, and he's going to get an amp damage and head top with that.
This could also be the death of Saberlight.
They just need to reserve nightmare for the TP and let Ursa do his thing.
He's on the way with the phase boots.
You can help other lane right now, actually. I have lane control for years.
For years? Alright, let's see how long these years are.
Saberlight, let's count the years.
I'm starting now, zero.
That's a really late reply.
I hope that communication's not that lag.
Deathing the TP, Razzle cancels it.
I'm for the deny and I creep south potentially, but the Fury Swipes are just too fearsome.
So another kill for Got the Juice. Good rotation from him.
His mid TP is one a lot of players would not make, and it was very important, I would argue.
Getting that OD kill and then getting the rune and coming back up top was very, very nice.
He's building some good distance now to his lane opponent in the tide.
As expected, he's 1,000 ahead now.
And the thing is, even if this looks even on gold, the matches for Ursa in this game were just so damn good.
He may well die though.
Well, Clinkz is having a great time.
And we haven't talked about this, but Jackie is obviously not playing a stun initiator, Strength Hero.
He is playing the Klinkz, so he's going to be a lot more reliant on teammates setting him up, and we haven't seen the same success from Nemesis with that playstyle.
His landing stage obviously going great, this is a good lane for Klinkz, and I said there was a chance that PMA could maybe draw that did not happen.
I can say that confidently at this point.
Yeah, a little bit of a different story than the Centaur is, same life, getting initiated
on under his Tier 1, looks to be another easy kill, forgot the juice who is now 4 and 0
on the Ursa, yeah.
And that is a very momentum based hero.
I feel like we never see sub 15 minute roaches anymore, but yeah, there's a lot that could
do it.
It could.
Beastmaster and Ursa just tank, tank rush with some summons first and then Ursa can do
the rest himself.
Tower as well for God with juice.
I'll try it for a minute though.
Mobe will get that on his OD, close to Meteor Hammer.
Which I believe he bypassed last game, right? He didn't buy Hammer on OD.
Which is rather unusual. We've almost only seen that item build from ODs.
Oh, they get the connection. This is going to be easy arrow.
Easy to the arrow. Very nicely done, Niku. Gets off the Wando.
Almost didn't kill him. Not enough to get away, Moebae. Another very important kill from here, Jackie, in the meantime.
He's going to get dove under the tier one, but now you can see the TPs have kind of split the uprights.
Nobby now trying to exit. Riddies is going to have to go back via the grave.
Good rotations from Nemesis. Two kills. Not losing much.
losing much and the meantime Saberlight is farming a double wave plus camp on the left
so he's also getting some good efficiency out of this.
All in all Nemesis didn't really lose anything there but gained a lot.
The challenge remains though, what are you doing about Ursa?
I think that is what we're going to have to see here.
Got the juice is in a position, given the hero matchups and the star that he has, you
heard CYMW, I believe he can carry this game.
He felt confident. He thought it was a good first game.
Well, it's time to deliver.
He definitely got the conditions to pop off.
Looks like he's going to go through the gate here.
Look at him. Maybe an unsuspecting clink.
He just survived the previous gank, but they're going to give it a second go.
Got Moonlight Shatter right now.
He has double Invis with that Skeleton Walk. Extremely powerful.
He's playing really passively though. Kind of sniffed it out.
I'm not going to catch him here.
Jokam, he's scouting at himself as well.
Got the juice goes back through the gate, so that play kind of comes in.
And there's still three members of Navi here, though.
Yeah, Hirst is now spotted back top.
The likelihood of the Clinks will go back to farming.
BMA comes in love to get a primal roar off.
I'm gonna try to get aggressive now. Gosh, a Saberlight joins.
I saw the first ravage of the game. They're gonna go for this PMA Beast match.
They're getting blocked by the big fat watermelon arrows there as well,
as Jackie gets a third kill to his name.
So between the two carries, 4-0, forgot to juice, 3-0 for Jackie.
Both are pretty damn happy right now.
They're both having a great time, but this matchup is very lopsided.
A nurse's favor yeah, that's what you were gonna ask so it wasn't man. You're so good. Thank you
You're gonna get up. Yeah, I'm gonna take two good making you talk less is definitely
To my credit go ahead. Yeah
He's about to finish the deso now in clink. I was gonna say that too. Yeah, all right. I'm so good at much
So with that I mean I think
Realistically you're going to continue playing with links and clockwork in tandem a lot now with the deso
So he will be somewhat eager to look for kills, but gotta be a little bit selective with what
you go for.
Ursa kills are not easy to come by, nor are the Willow ones.
She's obviously a great hero against Clanks with the Shadow Realm, as long as she's not
stunned.
She has a lot of counterplay.
But with this Odi meteor hammer, they're gonna hookshot this.
They are, but too slow.
Four step immediately from Niku, buys that first item this game.
build to say the least for Midlina.
I'll raise the game to take the game, Gaze, Garmad, take some punishment, Astral Spirit
or Astral Reddent rather.
That's funny.
There's a lot of Astros in the game.
There's Astral Step as well.
I just named it 4.
Yeah.
For the actual name.
Yeah, that's good.
I just called Astral just to make it easier.
Yeah.
Know your limits.
He lives.
That's what I'm trying to say.
True that.
Got out with leap. That's what it's called first try
The battle fury deso aligned pretty much perfectly from both perspective here is also a little bit ahead right now
600
They can both find really good farm with these items obviously, but Ursa should be accelerating a little bit faster until clings has the shark
At which point I think it's kind of a tie
It is burning barrage is just so good
for farming is in particular ancients and also just the overall efficiency for
clings of having to show less on waves is a real quality of life for the hero
because you are susceptible to gangs but you show for just one second throwing
out a burning barrage to wipe out a wave and then you're disappearing and it's
the moments of opportunity become a lot and the windows become a lot narrower
basically
Okay, let's have to be careful, Radies has Nightmare and Grip.
Gaven really likes Radiant by the way, I think it's worth mentioning, a little bit surprised.
So giving them a 2-1 actually in this situation.
I mean how's their lineup against Ursa other than the Clanks?
I don't think any of their heroes is really that good against Ursa.
So that's why I keep highlighting it as a great last pick, because Tide has a bad matchup.
Oh, this is like so, so, yes you can banish an ally that gets janked by your sub-fight.
I'll see if he can play his way out of this, I might actually just get away with this.
Oh, last moment.
Alright, forgot that was a spell for Clockwork.
Yeah, Jokin did skill it.
Very cool.
He went 1-4-1 last game.
This game 1-3-2.
Not sure why, but...
At least he is consistent with getting one point better, so it pays off there.
Got the juice, we'll invade the enemy triangle.
Do you think we'll ever stop calling a triangle, even though it doesn't have three camps anymore?
No.
What about, do you think DU angle will catch on?
No.
Die angle.
Die angle?
Yep.
What's a die angle? It's a line.
Yeah, I think, I'd say that's for anything, man.
What, what?
Yeah.
Okay.
Everything's a line.
That's so profound.
Nothing more needs to be said.
Yeah, probably. For the better.
There's your biggest kill of the game!
Alright, how did that happen?
We found him with Dust out in the open with Bane and Ursa and then...
I actually think Ursa may be solo-ed him.
The good news, Silver Lining I should say for Jack, you see?
Yeah, Ursa just solo-ed him with a Dust.
He just picked up Shard.
So, didn't really lose gold, but being down and out is going to be quite annoying.
Starting to see some separation here now though.
He's up 2k with that 1 kill, and that should lead to a fast BKB.
He has the dagger already, which he used for that kill, and a grouping up for Roshan.
Yep, I like it.
It wasn't sub-15, but you're gonna take this. This is pretty damn close for this patch.
It's very early days to Roche. I gotta try. Tide has a UL against the Ursa, which is nice, but it doesn't mean he has no way of getting in immediately.
Save our life.
Hello, home shot, and at the last moment,
he now lets the A into the terrorize.
Doctor, you just get the A just to get the kills.
What a ravage, it's everybody,
but there's not going to be any follow-up at this stage of the game.
And now the roar onto the planks with the Earths are right on top,
a disastrous fight for Hemesis.
And Sabralite's going to take a Laduna to the back of the skull.
I think to get out, but the Earths shot from the gut, the juice is enough.
Sanities does help out to find a couple of supports on the Navi side, but...
Still two cores dead for Nemesis.
Yeah, you can see the damage breakdown of that fight. That's the problem, right?
Yes, Ty gets a great Ravage and Anchor Smashers. He does way more damage than his teammates,
but we saw nothing out of the clink, so he's getting roared and killed.
And OD only on the tail end of that, from anything going.
So this is just a really nice play call to go, Roche. A good attempt from Clock, but a little bit too early, Jokam.
And yeah, a nice ravage, actually only has the four of the bandage made him dodge it on Ursa, not that it really matters, but yeah.
I just, these matchup for clings are tough, you got to be so selective and careful with how you approach fights.
Getting roared is a certain death, getting jumped by Ursa is a certain death.
Unless OD is in position to save you, maybe that's going to be the key.
Maybe they have to realize that they have to save Astral for defensive purposes only for that.
I'm going to try to put the shot on the Beastmaster.
Very, very low.
And I'm not the first to have a fight with Jacky where they won't find him in the F.
He's going to be immediately cancelled.
So Jacky will get away for the time being.
But he's on the chase though along with Gusta Juice just right on top of the plate.
Again, and just eats him for dinner.
So they lose the Beastmaster, but they're gonna get a couple out of it.
The one with that Aegis of course intact.
Blink Dagger being shown by got the juice, and he's going for agonimceptor next, so...
In fact, he has BKB way down the road, it's after a basher on top of that here.
He has BKB on the courier.
Okay, that's good.
Yeah.
Keep it up, Ursa.
Yeah.
If you find the second BKB up by your dinner.
You owe me a lot of interest.
Or if you can prove me that he has it as quick by.
I
Yeah, actually has two overaxes in this quick fire
It could be Sondra now for a genuinely could be a second be to be please swap it out dude. There is no it's it's a missile. Well, that's not
It's not a part of a Bissell.
Oh, the Sange, obviously, yes, okay.
We still got BKB.
No, that's not a BKB.
Wow, that was a brain fart and a half though.
I'll say that.
He is very large though.
Yep, so he's going X, a Bissell, and then I would assume...
He's gained 5.8k in the last five minutes.
Clink has gained 1.5, which is less than even some supports.
You asked me about this game set, and I feel like Navi are...
If it wasn't for the fact that this team struggles with clutching up games,
you don't even need to clutch this game. You just need to coast this to a victory.
You didn't need to clutch last game either, though.
That was closer. It was like back and forth quite a few times, right?
And then you got the two lanes of Barracks and made a critical error of sticking around instead of working.
You could just cruise.
True. After that you could have clutched it up when you threw away your advantage, but it should have never got to that point
And this is another game. I think the conditions are just so damn good for the dire
Jackie if they see him
He has a gem on the Ursa. Oh my goodness. This is so bad for Nemesis
The fact that he can do that without a basher without a diffuse without anything to slow him down other than her shot
It's crazy. Yeah
They just will be burning up pretty soon
They try to contest a go for this here to tower, but
They are certainly in the driver seat almost as an accident. He could be one minute ago
I'll be honest, I genuinely don't know what you do in this position as Radeon, which is
worrisome when you have to say that at 20 minutes, but they can't kill Ursa twice.
His Aegis is going to expire, so I guess you wait that out and try for a fight.
You've got to be really, really careful though, Vayne.
I'll take something, I mentioned he killed off, so that's something Riddies was blocking
that play effectively, if I'm going bottom through mid.
I think that's a pretty decent death, most against Moonlight Shadow.
Inconsequential kill, they get the Tier 2 bottom and now they're going to get the Tormenter
as well.
Another early objective for Navi here, should put them at a 10k lead.
What hero would you like to see Mobe on?
Like, are we just not planning this any opposition or?
Yes.
Okay, so if I could pick one hero to see him play, that's time.
But it's bandit regaining against this team because they played on both him and Jackie I
Think tiny is his best hero of all time
Second best is probably timber song
And then third best is dragon night
I would say
But
So far the OD hasn't felt like it. It's not his forte this time of hero
That's that's my
Overall read on him a special opinion. So my overall read on his playstyle is just
That's what he likes vanish into a row into hammer and he's gonna burn out to
The rocket flare steel. Okay. Okay. Good work. Somebody tip him. That was a sick steel
Why there's no there's not much that too
Yes, not enough leaps in the world to get you out of that.
It ends up being a 2 for 1 which sort of has a free pick off, but I have a little greedy with it.
Eventually the bear shows up.
Bear with 17k net worth, 5k above anybody else in the game.
Absurd levels of farm right now.
And 7k above the closest opponent.
Yeah.
Baster not long until we see him pick that one up as well, so that's going to be...
We were talking about Dexo pretty good timing, 13 minutes I want to say, right?
Yeah.
And since then, he's gotten a 4 staff.
Yeah.
That's 10 minutes.
Yep.
That's extremely bad.
He's died 4 times since he got the Dexo, right?
But he got the Shard, I guess, after the Dexo.
That's true.
The fake news a bit there.
It's still very pitiful.
And his four-step isn't going to do much because Ursa has a basher on the way.
Or did he just change straight up to Nullifier?
Or is the basher coming out?
Or is his courier?
No, he's just, okay, he parked it at the rush, all right?
He's got to go Nullifier instead of basher just to, again, target clinks as much as possible
then he can't force staff.
Yeah.
So he's just, yeah, his itemization seems geared toward how can I make points as life
as miserable as possible and don't blame him.
It's a pretty winning strategy.
With this axe, he's also very confident.
Like, how do they kill this guy?
He can just get ravaged and press ult, but not die.
They have no silence.
No hex.
Yeah, hexes would be the only thing.
I mean, even silence is not doing anything against BKB unless you get the stun into silence.
Exactly, they need both simultaneously, but they don't, nobody has an orc or anything like that, no heroes have a silencse, so yeah, I just, I have a hard time seeing Gothicus dying this game.
He's beyond godlike already, 11-0 at 24 minutes, and the gold lead seems to be going up by about 1k per minute for Navi.
We haven't talked that much about the other heroes, just slowly but steadily also overtaking their opponents more and more.
Lena has a BKB coming out in 10 gold, so Nika will be tough to deal with.
Is that scene right to you?
Beastmasters BKB? No. This is not 73.
This feels like 90-10.
That's more than that even, for me, like...
Radiance top 10.
To me, this is the biggest comeback of the tournament, if Nemesis went bigger than the mega creep comeback.
Because that one, at least, yes, you were down against Megas, but you could see the way
that it was possible with the right type of fight, I have such a hard time envisioning
how they do it, especially...
Try being not so negative and thinking, I mean I'm really positive for Navi.
That's all I'm saying.
I have a hard time seeing Navi losing, they're doing so great Shannon.
And what about Nemesis?
Keep it up.
They're up 1 and 0, that's great.
Get another game, you know, you earned yourself game 3, you're on Toronto and Palmer.
They don't need for Laguna even.
If they were to see Clinkseer, they would be diving this tower aggressively, just killing him off.
But Ursa is not in the neighborhood. He's currently pushing out bottom, and the nullifier has completed.
One problem that got the Jews is going to have is a number of slots.
They're going to use Saberlein to use the same as he clips as well.
They need to get before he can get BKB off so they get the assassination.
The ravaged down.
Why was... okay.
I mean, they wanted to recreate last game.
Yeah, I gotta need more than that.
Niko needs to stand out of position about two more times.
And they got the juice once, and then he's back in the game.
Got the juice, got the nullifier. Now he does not have a slot for Gem, which is actually quite important here.
It means he can no longer solo jump and kill the clinks, but he absolutely eats anyone else alive.
Secondary Roche will be there, so with no contention you don't have Ravage, you don't have Sanity, so you're not even going to try this.
Jelkem could try to be cute here, but I think he's too late already to make his way there.
It also doesn't have Hookshot in front of the tech seconds, so Roche won't be dead by now.
Another one picked up, this is with a banner.
Aegis onto got the juices, Ursa immediately keeping top for more farm.
And obviously, not a worry in the world about being killed here with two lives.
So you can push out aggressively.
It's cool to see Ursa have one of these games.
I don't know, so I think the hero won two of its five games in this tournament, and
I don't remember having one of those, you know, Ursa is just destroying everything
kind of games.
The hero can still have this.
It's a lot tougher to find these dragons than it used to be, but they exist.
Tied eggs from Saberlight here.
Yeah, Ursa, I enjoy watching.
He may hate me for this.
I enjoy watching Troll as well.
There's some carries that could probably come back into the scene.
Goodnought, Niskas.
He's been out of the meta now for like two weeks, so that's great.
Yep.
Tommy, he's still getting picked and banned.
A decent amount, I would say.
It's too bad.
It's banned against Navi every game.
I think we've got a single game of his this tournament.
Yeah, I don't like that.
Here too, forgot the juice.
Looks like the Swift link's going to be next for him.
Still not seeing that second BKB quite yet.
So the question now is, are you going to get cold feet as Navi after the last game
over over complicate things defensively oh they see him jackie dust if he connects oh
we're fogged not the caster fogged is all just in rain a the lens the best item on
bane of all time does it again
yet another death for jackie five to his name i feel like this is a situation where
now we can go high ground but I think they're going to hesitate to. Which is not necessarily
a problem as long as they play good map control. But, um, oh he almost killed the OD there.
Kind of nice to nullify off, uh, objugation.
Decent barrier to just get rid of. Probably wishes he had back,
Norman, with the timed leap and the TP out.
He's actually doing quite well for himself this game, Norman. I haven't talked about that so
So much he has axe in a very losing game at 29 minutes with the distiller is not too bad
He's highest net worth among all the supports on a massively losing team
So he's been doing
Watching it up with the leap saber light great great being him alive just great
Look at that got to just got another item they have been two weeks two minutes since the last one
I tried. Remember the last time I've seen a Ursa this farmed and without fashion.
That's true. That's pretty crazy.
That is pretty unusual. I mean it is going to be his final item here, Abyssal obviously.
Oh, nice little lag here. Uh oh.
Uh oh, I was just wondering, is this one of these situations? Are they all going to be
out of sync again?
It might just be.
Valve server is taking a dump. The Friday maintenance.
It might all just be disk...
Okay, hmm.
I'm wondering if I can read anything out of who's not getting DC'd.
Like, is this... I'm pretty sure they're just reconnecting to reconnect.
Yeah, but, oh, so you don't think all of them live. Some people didn't even DC here.
So I've got the Jews paused, and so I've got the Jews in days,
and I think Niku didn't get disconnected. Everybody else did.
I don't know, it's just that, if this is a server problem, it's just weird that not everybody is DCing, right?
Or if it's some sort of a bug that's crashing the game, it's sometimes it can be a little bit of a lead
what heroes are not getting kicked out with how it crashes, but either way...
The worms will have you.
Either way, the worms will have you.
Well, now we've got the juice DCing. Okay, interesting.
I don't think it's them actually disconnecting.
You think it's all of them just manually choosing to rejoin the game?
Yes. So then why don't they all do it?
Because they're waiting for everybody else before they do it, so that the game doesn't end.
So you're meaning they take turns?
I see. Yeah, I guess you're right. At this point, we just need Niko up, then everybody has done it.
Niko, just waiting on you. Niko, come on now.
Come on, young man. Hope we see another invoker performance from him in this year.
There we go. All right, you got your wish. You were right.
I was about to say as always, but you were right for once is what I meant.
Well off the last couple days that jet lag probably can end now. Yeah
All right, everybody has reconnected I believe it will be go time except us which means we might not our
Observing PCs might not even move. It's not doing what it did last time. So well, well the game is paused
Yeah, we'll see because they were moving around while paused remember. Hmm
Let's let's see
It looks fine, uh, yeah, okay. All right
Two minutes left in the ages for the man on your screens right now, not that man, the
other man, that man.
I have to try and report one of these players.
Looks like I'm able to do that actually.
Yeah, just do it.
I'm afraid that I...
What do you want to report them for?
Got the juice, not pushing.
Oh.
But you're going to report them for smurfing.
What's the smurfing last game?
No, that's not how people report in pubs anyway.
One good performance I've heard is enough.
People are very...
Uh-oh.
That's the shortest greater ball time.
What was the ball time?
I forgot that that was an ability on the old tide, Hunter.
Did he think Nullifier breaks?
Good question.
Oh, this could be a pretty good kill, PMA.
If we get the Primal Roar off, another right click is not going to do him in.
He actually survived, and we're trying to finish the job.
He probably lost Moby in the meantime though,
so he ends up being great bait.
He cancels the TP, so that's three deaths for Nemesis.
There's his high ground.
TMA survives.
His courier dies though, which had the completed AC.
That's gonna slow them down just a bit, but...
They've got enough, I mean,
Arson not the greatest pusher in the world,
but with this much farm and, yeah,
The peace master Lena should be good to go and they have a banner too, let's do it again, they could take the second rush at 27 minutes so...
Yeah, this easily is the tower, probably the lane, you got 15 seconds on ages but as long as you have enrage you're not really worried about getting bursted.
You can always protect yourself here, there's no solution presented yet by the radiant.
thing they can do is force his ult and then you will him, but then he's BKB when he comes down so kind of
covered on all fronts. They get the melee, they get back, showing some of that discipline that the
panel is talking about, they want to see more of. That's right.
Could argue that they're disciplining the other team this game. It's a bit of a smackdown.
Disciplining the servers as well. Yeah.
Now if you wanted to revenge for that last game, they were saying, fuck the enemy team
and Valve, next thing they're gonna wreck the tables, they have it out for everyone right
now.
You're gonna need replacement computers pretty soon.
Niku is gonna pull a Niko.
Radiant, I'll scan.
You got reference?
Oh, you actually got that reference.
I'm impressed.
One of his first major this year.
Congratulations.
I thought you don't watch Counter Strike anymore.
No, I haven't watched recent.
Tormenter for Riddies, so he will get the upgraded brain set. Nice for wave clear.
Nice against illusion heroes of which there are none, but...
Alright, Ursa has Bachelors, so now I've got the juice can kill somebody.
Only has 13 kills.
Yeah, give him another one.
Epistle, and then the next item queued up is the Aghanim's Synth into Satanic.
I don't know, I keep calling it synth. The whole agonist blessing never really caught
on with me for some reason. I didn't even remember it was called blessing.
Yeah, it used to be called agonist scepter synth, right, when you bought the upgrade
and then they were like, that's kind of not.
And what was the neutral item that gave you an agonist for five minutes?
Uh, was it Tom of agonim?
Could have been.
It was a cool item.
Baze, jumps in, they're gonna force out the moonlight shadow.
Hookshot does hit and force us to save the dwarf willow PMA, raising up his hand but not willing to actually throw out the primal roar
He's a respectful gentleman, doesn't yell in public
Keeps it on the low
No dirty laundry here
Nothing wrong with yelling in public
Never gonna see those people again. A lot wrong with belching in public though, but we won't give into that. I don't agree with that
Okay, let's
got the juice. They have a hex now.
They do. Ravage comes out.
They're into the ult from God to the juice.
He is A-OK.
You see Nemesis without the Ravage.
What can they actually do here?
They get the trade on the supports.
Now the war on to the OD.
Dead double kill for Niku.
Rip flies his way to Marana.
And Nemesis just running out of gas.
I mean, this has got to be game, right?
They used everything and they killed a willow.
Nice nightmare save that that was the one moment of opportunity with this has plays the only way they can kill the Ursa
They try it he gets saved he gets enraged off and that's
Got to be all she wrote right? Let's see
How on earth do you defend here?
Let's fast push these three cores together with an AC
Second lane for not me and 30 seconds for the OD get back in the game. So
Megas
No Ravage, Jackie probably gonna put up his last stand to the end of the Ursa.
Four step though.
It's hook shot now.
The Ursa is gonna still be fine.
He can only burn through half his HP.
Joke on getting gone on by PMA. It's a double kill for Niku.
Even more space now to take these buildings.
OD back.
But that's been the most fierce on OD anyway.
And yeah, nobby, secure the magus, now you have a refresher to deal with, on the beast master, up pistol, played, forgot the juice.
They're actually backing off. Would you look at that, PTSD?
I think, I think CY had a little bit of a talking to them after that game won. Like, take your advantages and chill.
Ironically, I think the game was actually over there and they probably could have just finished, but I think it's a, it's a healthy sign.
I would rather for Nami say that they're a little bit too cautious than a little bit too aggressive because it seems like that's the dial they've needed to turn.
This is completely to let it fire again.
Another Aegis?
She's refresher shard for the Bane right now and another Roche banner.
And he has the gold for Agon's Blessing so isn't even losing the Ag slot here.
Go back to Synth.
Okay.
why don't change who you are just because it's wrong I think it's pretty
healthy to show character progression you know what if your character progression
is just standing up for yourself and what you believe in incorrect pronunciations
that's a really important to me that's why I stick to Avedon and Winrunner
or Cinderant. I believe in who I am. Yeah, here's the only one. That's not true. There's
a few more Apodons out there. Windrunner. I do believe in who you are. Oh yeah, of course.
I got to say that. It's all good though. So the two Hexes for Nemesis did not work. What's
Plan C here? Three Hexes. Okay. Gaven gives them... Do you want to guess what the wind
percentages here I'm gonna say 1% it's zero but what do you think it is it's
obviously rounded well in America we rounded it's 0.5 or above so I'm gonna
say point below 0.3 you mean okay what no round out round out five okay yeah
that's true it would be interesting if you rounded up when it's point three of
below though save or light quick fingers I mean that's like giving a trophy to
Everybody gets involved.
That's the end of the game.
Mimises can get a participation trophy for this game though.
Are you sure?
Sure will. So good.
So can everyone in chat. You were here.
For this epic final siege.
Or it's anyone's game.
And you cannot guess how this one's going to end.
Stay in your seats now. Don't you leave and get a beverage.
This is...
Stay tuned.
The best is yet to come here in the next 30 seconds.
Okay, how about this?
Let's predict how long this fight is gonna be.
I'm gonna say nine seconds.
Nine seconds?
I was gonna say 10.
That just sounds lame, then I'm just going to plus one.
Well, you are lame, so it would fit here.
Thank you.
Your MO.
It's really nice of you to say that.
Paperlight, control mine, hook shot.
You can count down the seconds now.
DMA gets off the Primal Roar and the fiends trip on top of Glinks.
The guys are gonna be the death of everybody on Nemesis.
I think this is lasting more than I think.
And this paroky enter the building is making sure Nemesis does not GG out quite yet.
Very important to keep morale alive.
So they're talking about game three as well.
Let's not pick this OD again because he just gets instigated.
And the die-back.
Another ravage comes out and fires into GG.
It wasn't GG until that last ravage was expended,
as they need to use every ability for the contractual obligations with Parokey,
who's now involved apparently in this team.
It's gonna be split 1-1.
Nice game for me.
Nice game for Navi.
Let's shout.
You're doing it now, are you?
Yeah, we'll be out. We're making it.
Sunspan really tried that time too but...
I don't know but also like why didn't he just do a French accent?
Yeah that was kind of weird. He is from Denmark. But anyway, um, look, uh, much better game for
Navi, uh, because without saying. So how did they do it? What was different?
The difference was that they had tools to deal with Karrie this time around. I feel like both of
the games that we've seen so far is where Karrie has popped off completely and this time around
Navi preemptively picked potential counters that could come out from Jackie picking up two long
Disables long BKB piercing abilities with the roar with the fiend's grip
which did not allow him to play that game and
Something we mentioned as well. I've not been feeling this OD as a pick. It looked like okay
He insta kills dark willow in every single fight and then he just dies afterward and that plays into the drafting right if
If Moby is going to have these games where even in game one
He was kind of just to save right you went for staff link dagger on OD
He kind of resigned himself to being in that position
You know given the fact that the game is pretty tough for him in that early to mid game. However
When it feels like Jackie boys is really the guy that's like putting this team on his shoulders and carrying and
There's not gonna be a mid that carries the game
You know Saber light is going to do his thing regardless, especially if he's on something like a tide hunter
Yeah, we talked about Joachim not having like the greatest tournament this so far in some of the games
He does look good than losing games. It looks like there isn't much being done on the map
So I think they did a pretty good job
Yeah, cutting down Jackie removing some of the heroes because he has been the shining star off the team
So I want to see how they're going to be approaching this one also
Also, Navi, dude, I don't know if they can pull it off one more time on a good day, or
if they were just a little bit more clean in that game number one, this could have easily
been 2-0 for them, but it didn't happen, they threw the game again, so game three, if they
go out like this, it's gonna, it can feel really bad for them, but let's focus on some
of the positives as well, because GTJ, he owned completely, didn't die a single time on Ursa.
of the most farmed heroes that we've seen I would say so far in the tournament
like Ursa is... I didn't die as well. Yeah, crucially. Yeah, I also had zero deaths and
I think Ursa really suffers level 1, level 2. We've seen it where they try to
play a little bit more aggro with this Marana with the gush as well try to
push him out of the lane and then he feels more than fine like if you don't
grab a kill on him it does feel like you're not really doing that much
because he is going to go to jungle and get his farm. Yeah, but I mean you said that when we were
looking at the draft that ultimately he was pretty well protected and had good setup you know you
pair him up with that bane he gets in and out you know you can hold someone in place for him
so just a masterful game from him. Really sick against Klinks as well. Yeah, I liked it pretty
early on they gave him a gem and now you can't run around the map on Jackie boys and go for these
pick offs that he would normally like to do to come back in a game. Like Ursa versus
Clinkz is, this is very good for Ursa. Clinkz is not a hero that can like get away from
him, but you have to make that decision like, okay, we're strong enough. He's not gonna die.
He's gonna go 17 and hell we'll get him a gem and he'll kill the Clinkz.
And crucially, he wasn't fatally compromised in that game either.
No, he wasn't. Like if we look at the comparison between two of them, what they were able to
Achieve in that one clink. So he got shut down relatively early on in the draft. He had a couple of those
Relatively early bets they try to make one move one time where he was tanky enough to survive because of the fairy fires
Magic one the death pact as well, but looking at the GPM. This is pretty insane
He has the 300 extra on top of him already doubling his hero damage and being very active as her
So this is 26 minutes. We're talking about Clink says not a type of a hero that's gonna be like, oh, I'm just farming
I don't want to participate in any fights even though the hero farms relatively fast
But you can't keep up with Urza who's holding the ages who does have BKB does have agonim scepter
Again, Scythe Hunter even if he gets initiated on having that status resistance from his ulti national imprisonment
He's not gonna be doing the thing and also
He just picked up immediately after that Roshan did pick up the nullifier
So the two supports they couldn't really deal with it like there's literally nothing you can buy to actually protect yourself
We can take a look at a team fight that sort of was the tale of the game
16 minutes under
Yeah, this one was where the game was actually pretty close got the juice was in the roast pit just
Barely gets it before the ravage comes out onto for it was such a beautiful rabbit
But they just weren't in position to help.
You could see the Jackie boys on Glinks.
He tried to use his little flame arrows, you know,
go for the AOE, which would have been really, really good.
But got the juice had already started focusing on him.
And that's the thing is this is why they picked the Ursa.
This is why they picked the Bane, the Beastmaster,
as you were mentioning.
They know who the real problem is on this team.
They know who's going to carry the team and they're focusing him.
I'm curious to see how they solve this going into game three.
Quick time of thought from you.
I also want to see the same thing. I also want to see something different from Obey.
I also want to see the switcheroo with the supports. It worked game one, it didn't work game two.
Now you need to think of something different.
Alright, thanks gentlemen. That means it's time for a break.
When we come back, we're going to see who wins and continues their journey in the lower bracket.
We'll see you in a moment.
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Just five, okay.
Five, yeah.
What is more satisfying for you?
Just five, okay.
Five.
What is more satisfying for you then?
Still ages.
Still ages, oh, that's true actually.
Yeah, this guy's got clockwork players, so he loves doing that.
Still ages, I think, more satisfying than stacks.
Okay.
I think for me, you know, when you kill the enemy carry, when they TP down.
Yeah, they just die one time, they TP down again, you kill him again.
That is a very satisfying thing for me.
It's okay about the same.
Yeah, I think we should not.
What do you think is equally important to damage?
It's just easy to play if you have damage.
But if you don't have damage, I think no opponent can do anything.
What if you have no stuns?
Like, would you rather have full damage or full stuns?
I would rather have full damage than stuns because mostly I'm playing support, I don't have damage.
That's true.
I would say stuns is equally important, I would say.
I mean, if you have full damage and no stuns, the game is a little bit tricky.
But if you have full stun and no damage, then you can stun that guy however you long, but you won't kill him.
So I think I do think damage is pretty important.
I put 9 because I'm not a patch player.
And I'm a freaking patch magnet.
I hope magnet, you know.
I'll just run into hook.
You need to be good at this here, I think.
You need to be more expert at this.
Would you rather have it banned?
like permanent battle because you are a push player yourself sometimes it's
better to not have butts in my team
I would agree to that too
it's better to have butts on opponent
okay fair
maybe three oh why are we so different have we ever flamed each other I I think
the team need to be more need to be
I'll say telling the truth telling the truth about the situation yes sometimes
This flame is good for the improvement to ourselves.
I agree.
I think confrontation is quite important.
Sometimes you need to be able to feel like you're saying the truth, even though sometimes
it's a bit harsh.
I feel like so far we haven't had that at all because it's just like one month together
now.
And then back in previous teams, we never really had that also.
Maybe that's what we need more.
So far we haven't had that.
But you never know, it might come.
Who do you think is gonna survive to the end?
In our team, yeah.
Maybe not a man.
I think so too.
I think not a man.
He's so huge.
He's like strong, you know.
I'm just imagining we are in some zombie apocalypse.
Yeah.
I feel like I'm probably going to get eaten.
And I don't know if I want to survive to the end anyway.
Because you know, you need to do some nasty stuff to survive sometimes.
I'm just going to let them eat me.
Okay.
I'll shoot you before you become a zombie, okay?
That was just an easy one.
Alright, welcome back. So, all tied up as is often the way. It's never easy with Narvi and Nemesis.
Found that out in the last game.
Yeah, they're tied, but I don't think they're gonna go for the tide again this game. It just didn't feel too good.
You can kind of see why the hero isn't picked so much.
They were running out of things for Saber like to pick, but we talked about this issue of
everything falling on Jackie boys and having the other two heroes kind of being the core heroes being the supporting cast
This is not gonna work out if Navi is gonna continue picking
counters to his heroes and then also the BKB piercing disables that Lacoste mentioned.
Yeah, I want to see something
that doesn't run out of damage, like even his performance on Tiny, this is a hero that they flexed,
one of the reasons why we're probably not going to be seeing Tiny in the hands of Nemesis, because he does feel
they play it too well, but I want to see some high damage hero coming up from the mid lane, they talked about it.
Yeah, I was just going to say that man, like I get it, you're getting banned out a lot, two of your signature heroes gone,
just love like the idea of Niku being on a skill expression hero. You know, he's shown
he's got that sauce. He can play those types of heroes.
Oh, this is this is they've gotten sick of the Lena. Yeah. Oh, but okay, it's at least
not going to be on Navi this time. So that's good. Yeah, that means Mobe won't be on OD
as well, which is what we were asking for. It'd be pretty cool if Navi picks OD. That's
straight away, because there are still other heroes available in the pool.
We saw how effective Cluckra can be. We saw Marana.
I think Marana in general just feels super strong,
like we talked so many times about this hero, what it brings to the table.
But Navi, they tend to open up with Marana, Witch Doctor, and Lena, most of their games.
And it is going to be Witch Doctors. So I want to see
the approach from Navi this time around whether they're going to be an answer
potentially for Lycan coming out because Witch Doctor didn't really get the chance
to play the game in that game number one. What I was going to ask you is,
cause tournament life's on the line and I know it's not good, but is there any chance that you
like Nemesis might consider flexing the leaner? I don't think so. You open up with it, you do the
old switch, you talk about switcheroo's before we went on a break. It was the voodoo switcheroo
that we talked about but I don't think Lena is gonna fit in into the safe lane anymore like it
can't work but it's she doesn't get as much farm anymore and the spellcaster Lena from the mid lane
seems to be so much better yeah they're Lee not gonna do that because I feel like more Bay just
one of one of his heroes and and the idea here is to pick something that's a semi carry mid that
can scale and then also they can pick Jackie Boy one of his heroes. Why aren't
I'll be picking Earth Spirit if it's available and has the highest win rate
at the tournament? Well what a great question I guess Nipu would rather play
undying goddamn mid instead of Earth Spirit. There's other answers to Lena
that he likes to play you know pango is something that it was picked against
Lena when she was really overpowered a hero that can just like get on top of
her you're dealing all physical damage really good against a spellcaster Lena
because you don't care about this matter,
because this that he's going to be getting from the shard,
the the eggs. Yeah, I think Invoker is a good band.
Voker's good. Invoker's good. Just because what happened
and that the first game LGD they had in Voker, they had which doctor
you connect with the Sun Strike onto Maladik, the target.
Guaranteed. It's a kill.
So the Sven
still in the pool now the question that I would ask is can you 13 picks man if you have a witch doctor is that a strong enough lane
Okay, they're not gonna go for it. They go for the rubik
Perhaps pre emptying some of these heroes that the spells are really good to steal and Lena of course has good spells for you to steal
Be in the linea. Yeah available
Does Lena keep LSA level one in this matchup because it's probably the best spell that you're gonna be able to steal
It has been done before with Astrols, with Earthshaker, and Chantotans.
It feels bad when you're the spellcaster, Lena, to have that level 1.
That's the only problem. Maybe you try just killing Rubik in the fights instead.
These are squishy supports. The Lycan was a very good band, given that they picked both of these.
Love the clockwork. It fits really well with Lena.
with Lena. She needs a hero to just be a body to go in there. You drop the Cods. You set
up for that LSA, of course, level one.
See, I was saying the Enigma is available, but the Rubik sort of blocks that pick.
That's probably the idea.
Yeah, it's another reason why the Rubik probably is creeping in.
But it is a Summon's hero, the Enigma, and Summons are definitely pretty good against
these two supports which summons I was thinking the same which someone hero is
still available because visa Rizzy he's not don't you know he's not it's not a
hero at the moment to even if like zeal is not picking up the hero 33 is not
picking up the hero I was checking the road is not right yes you'd say man
interview that his team is telling him to pick it but he thinks it sucks yeah
I was looking at zeal's win right that's his most successful hero in
professional career. He has like 72 or 73% min rate. So if he's not touching it means
something is wrong. These masters out like an is out as well.
Yeah, it's it's pretty much just the enigma, right? But then you're picking it into Rubik
still living that everyone's just acknowledged that docs it sucks. It's so good.
Took a while. Great day to be alive. It took a while.
That's that it's funny how day one we were able to say maybe this is gonna happen where it's gonna actually have a low
Winner and suck and then we were in the future
Yeah, but we were still convinced you still you told me on the idea
Yeah, like coming into the tournament. I wasn't as solid like yes a strong off. Always blaming me
This is a great teammate right here. It's though to do in a nutshell. Yeah, cause it is this happens every velocity
There's one guy at the start. Yeah
Well, speaking of dunkshaheroes, jump in.
Yeah, I said it during the second game, I believe that Tiny and Magnus are one of the
best heroes against Lina, or she hates to be repositioned, and 0 picks, 0 bans, and 0 win
rate.
During TI qualifiers, and I believe during EWC, we saw a relatively good amount, I'd
say around 5 or 6 games that Magnus has been picked up from the carry roll.
from the carrier role and it is going to be the carry Magnus or or mid it could be mid but i think like carry mag because i was toying with this idea for a while where you have empower on yourself all the time
You farm very fast with the Mask of Madness, you get the Blink Dagger, your level 15 talent is insane, the amount of, I think it's 12 all stats that you get per hero hit during RP, you become extremely tanky in the teamfight.
You for sure are just like a lifestealer here, right? I feel like, Lina is so countered in this game, she's gonna have no game, right?
Yeah, I'm fine with the Lyce dealer. I'm okay with the Sven as well. I like Sven just to delete the supports
You're okay with that. There are multiple BKB fishing abilities as well on Navi. They are picking
Anti-jacky heroes, so you have ways of
Empowering whoever is going to be playing the mid or safe lane they have flex available and you also have the blade mail buyer from axe
We this we need to talk about this because during the break
We're all Navi fans were rooting for them. You know, they're the young guys. Everyone wants them to do well
Hmm, but we said game three they're gonna pick some shit that was never picked in this tournament before it's gonna go
Terribly, they're gonna bomb out even though they just had a great game, too
I hope that this prediction we're being kind of ironic in saying it, you know tongue-in-cheek. It's like it's Navi
You know, it's the curse. I really hope that that's not happening here because as you can see Magnus
It's 0% tick rate, untouched in this tournament.
I don't think it's bad, but perhaps it just doesn't fit into the current meta.
In a vacuum, in your pubs, it's good, but in a competitive match, we'll see.
I mean, how do you think it pairs well with what's on the board already?
They have a pretty good combo with the Witch Doctor, right?
you can call somebody or if you can RP two people together then the cask and
melodic is pretty crazy with the witch Dr. Ulti. Also probably two heroes that
can actually ensure you get a full ult off. Yeah. Which is nice. Yeah, there's not
much of that in Dota. Although Riddies would disagree. Yeah, he loves his hero.
And another DP band, seeing that there is a witch doctor, a hero that we wanted to
specifically for this matchup against Navi, getting banned out twice.
So Nemesis, they need some disable. I feel like they're lacking a little bit in that department.
Maybe like a little bit of teamfight as well would be nice.
The Death Prophet ban is interesting, feels very targeted at Saberlight,
perhaps also leaning more towards the Mag-Carry because it would do very well in lane against the Magnes.
So let's see, good teamfighter, a little bit of disable, good in lane against witch doctor plus Magnus, oh man, it might be darks here, actually might be the pick, although I don't think you would, I don't think you would ban PL.
I like this. I like this man a lot the hero that would have been said
Yeah, it doesn't have good win rates so far in Valakia has been picked only few times
When I was checking yesterday, but the great counter initiator when axe goes in when magnets goes in
He could split up the fight with yeah with that
Big aoe big ulti trying to reset
And this is something that saber like hasn't played so far in Valakia
It's just gonna be standard Centaur pick up, not that too crazy, but the strong laner we
saw what the hero can do, their damage is a little bit limited when it comes down to
how they're gonna be able to kill Centaur with some taser on top of him, with the dispel,
disarm.
Yeah, I agree, Navi's really lacking damage right now.
When your primary damage is coming from your witch doctor position 5, I get it's Riddies
and this guy's really good at the hero, but you need more, you need like, you know, less
rock level damage. I don't think it's good against their heroes. Let me go for the lifestealer.
So it is a mid mag. There is a potential issue of the damage issues here, for sure. If they
can get past the early game, the damage issues are solved by, you know, which doctor having
items, lifestealer having the radiance and levels, you know, acts having blade mail,
Magnus even eventually scales to do a lot of damage, although I don't think that's what people are playing it
I think a lot of people are playing it more like the collapse style where you're just pulling from the mid lane
Yeah, from the carrier all you go full in on damage with your eco sabers
Harpoons, we'll see what Niku decides to go for from the mid lane if they feel like they need more damage
I think he needs to go for the right click if they think the game is gonna be going late with Magnus
It always can because you always have the skewer back
So a lot of the teams will not push for the high ground. I got the curse monkey power
I said I want me to this killing fresh in here. Oh, it's just cold and some madness
Nightmare so true
Careful about what you wish for but you know if they're gonna break the curse
It's gonna be in a way that looks like they're just falling victim to it again
You know where because that's the most hype if it looks like oh, no, no v game 3
elimination they pick some and you want to go out with the style like yeah it's true yeah but
how many tournaments are they going to go out with style you know I'm sick of it I want them to win
oh I want them to get top four at least you know what I'm gonna say it I'm a believer I I think
they've cooked with this draft I think there's a lot of potential here yeah and the question is
are they going to realize that potential and they can't they have gone from being an 18 minute
team to completely stomping some of the best teams in Dota within one series, so I hope we get that
Navi in this one because it'll be super fun to watch. I believe in Mag. I believe in Keri Mag as
well. I believe in Mid Mag and I believe in Lifestealer having two vehicles that he can play
with with the Infest, your mid laner buys Blink Dagger, your off laner buys a Blink Dagger.
No real saves on the other side. So, same as like the thing happened in the game number one,
Sven goes in, they kill a hero. I see Navi winning this one, they're going through,
to their reaching top four even after.
All right, well, I can throw us over to our commentator.
Sunsphand knows all about Magnus.
He's been buying Rhino Hall online.
That sounds very sexual in nature.
Thank you so much, Richard, making this very awkward,
that you know my personal life so well.
Sunsphand here with Cinder in game three is upon us.
Yeah, loser of this goes home.
Winner will stay alive.
We get to see a Magnus as Richard and the panel could not
stop talking about Adnazium.
It's the only new hero, so it's exciting, right?
Your thoughts on Magnus?
Uh...
That's my thoughts, right there.
Okay.
Um...
It has...
Hey, we don't have to see the OD in the game, at least, right?
Right, I think there's a...
Oh, hang on, Jocum.
Jocum?
Oh, good cogs.
It'll be okay here.
A nice place.
Have you done, Jocum?
Nice place to get caught.
Heals us boots, so he'll just walk it off.
Um...
Maybe we'll get a chance to talk in a little bit.
Let's go on the top on the two of stop to follow on the ship Magnus
The hero of the game has died first to Jackie. Who's playing the bear?
Nice steal from Joe. Go
Actually putting days in a pretty weird spot. He can't see pee here last off his way too long cooldown
All right, so about Magnus I
I don't think this hero has a good matchup whatsoever against Lina mid, so I expect Niku to be in a little bit of trouble for starters, which is not that great, obviously.
You're picking this willingly, thanks to Lina, and Power for Life's Dealer is nice.
The enemy team's... A lot of the time when it comes to Magnus, because this hero isn't popular right now for a reason,
I will look for how likely is it that the enemy team clumps up, right?
Like that's ultimately what makes this hero good is reverse polarity or being able to fish and
You're not really fishing Ursa that well
You're not really fishing Centaur that well either not that you can't hit them
But it's like are you going to kill them?
It's there a weak target that really doesn't like to lean. It's very good against to fish
But I can't say with confidence that this is a good pick and I'm just looking to be surprised
might have been something Niko specifically asked for, because he just loves to play against Lina specifically.
They love Lina as we've seen so many times now for Navi. We have been underwhelmed by Lina regardless,
but they respect it so much they want to counter it with the Magnus who hasn't been picked the entire tournament.
Well, is it a counter? It's my question. I think displacement of Lina is a counter for sure.
In the past, you would see teams even picking Venge just to swap Lina in and kill her,
because she's so weak when she's out of position.
But I think as far as the lane goes, you would expect Lina to pull ahead here.
Not the case so far, though. Niko actually having a little bit of a better start there than Moby.
I have another question now. Why didn't Jackie pick Sven?
I believe it was in the pool. They chose Ursa. I understand it's a better matchup against DX,
But I mean your your game plan your stats kind of speak for themselves. I from his perspective
Maybe he's like I can play this like a strength initiator because I'm just gonna buy bachelor and that case it checks out
So maybe that's fine, but I also don't think this would have been that bad of a spin game. No
Yeah, I suppose so but first it's obviously good and if he
He likes it more he will without a question get a good start here in this match against Axe Rubik
That should be a very easy lane to play.
Only time will tell, Syndra.
Nice little play there from Jokheim. The double bowling.
Didn't hit with the second cog. He just runs after the cog and tries again. We call that a spare.
Shenan?
Huh?
Onto the witch doctor.
I like that. How many times can you hit it?
Uh...
Infinitely?
I think in theory as many as you want, but it's pretty hard to keep up with it.
need like a haste rune and force staff blink dagger what the fuck mode yeah why
not now your fun tournament PGL no next time what do you think would be the
first pick Zeus you have to get level six though yeah I guess in Voker just
spam some strikes when the game begins yeah it's probably the best one if you
play well the enemy team will never get an item or an any experience point you
just non-stop Sunstrike every lane a very exciting tournament to watch now for
two minutes
okay nice boxing out here oh yeah they get the good bowling with the host on
to save her light taking some heavy Maladik dash because yes Radies has picked
Which doctor again to blast off with Jackie Boy here by PMA?
He's gonna be done one way or another. It's to the tower.
Yeah.
As Niku burning extremely low in the mid lane does survive.
Yeah, this is when you would think the mid lane starts getting, or rather you would probably think it starts getting hard a little bit earlier than this.
From the Magnus' perspective.
I guess part of the reason he hasn't destroyed him harder than this, and I say destroy, I guess they're kind of even, but
But Lina did skill Light Strike Array for the level 1 fight, which means she did not
start the lane with Dragon Slave, and that's generally how Lina is very oppressive to especially
melee heroes.
Sure, the stun is also good, but it's harder to connect, less reliable.
Niko is currently doing a jungle camp very slowly.
This cannot be worth it.
This is very, very slow.
Instead of going back to base and refilling, sure, you are going to kill it.
He's probably took him a good, honestly, 30 seconds to walk there and kill it and has no resources
So now he's just waiting around gonna do another one. Oh, maybe he'll just stop laning
Yeah, that's a choice. Sure
Level 2 in power right now, save the light again getting on on
No melodic though. Yeah, he is purple of course because of the open wounds. Don't get confused everybody
The Riddies his first loss in this series in their game one and we're joking that they shouldn't have lost that game
With which Dr. Yeah, yes
Yeah, it's been quite good on it as you do staying alive. Thanks to the neutral
Gotta love myself some Polly wag charm Polly wag Polly walk charm. Sorry. They were opening Pokemon cards in the back
So okay, I got distracted by that. I guess
and nobody just a free lane 33 and 9 in the CS. CS looks the same for the Magnus but Jungle
creeps not worth nearly the same. Norman nearby as well. I think it's hard to believe
that nobody's even leaching XP at this point. Yeah, this can't be right. Oh, he just TP'd
Nice, nice, nice, nice!
Mid skewer as well, Laguna to follow!
And you're rockin' player?
Oh, bully!
Ooh!
Just out of range, Niku survives.
Okay, what a pretty filthy kill.
Had to make the walk of shame.
Niku is hitting level six.
I mean, do you go for...
This is Jackie.
Hello, Jay.
You in a bit?
It's off the telekinesis.
Saves boots.
Our shock's enough.
Taser is so good at Ursa.
It feels real, real good to get that burst of movement speed.
A little bit of extra damage to Booth.
This is already looking great for the side of Nemesis.
A good start, a good matchup for Ursa
between Life Stealer and Magnus.
Two historically great matchups.
You just buy Axe again, right?
I say again, last game it was of course played by
Got the juice, but what an axe game for Ursa
No counters, right? You can just use it during call, you can use it during RP
Here we come
I'm not gonna get the ward
You know, remove the vision, all the same
Calf is gonna bounce again, it does not get telekinesis
What is that?
I'm maledict, he's gonna burn him away eventually
Helping Nekofarm a bit
Yeah, he's been on this amount of HP for quite some time, I have to say, I mean, imagine
if I didn't have this Pollywog, I don't know, helps a bit, he's got treads now.
But he is trailing the Lena by about, what's that, 800?
I've made it 8, so 100 GPM difference between the two.
Imagine it's only going to get worse as Lena starts ramping up with boots of travel, just
inherently unless Magnus has a good start the hero just farms slower than Lena and
he obviously lost his mid tower very early just doesn't help either power
rune now mobey will find a haste that could spell some potential trouble in
the top lane if Saber like where to get a cool bait off
and PMA, gonna have to withstand two members, gets off the call, but this is an eventual kill going the way of Nemesis, very quick.
It's only a matter of time, surely.
Get some help, no bank, makes an appearance apparently.
Can't even see P for that.
Hmm, that seems unnecessary, but you can go gate, you can gate to top, but there is a ward, so they will see him coming.
And now the question is Navi are you gonna bait this or are you just gonna play defensive because there was a possible
Cool play here with a an RP, but nope Niko hasn't skilled it
So I was gonna ask when do you skill it?
Maybe when to blink I don't know I mean
pretty
Unusual magnets game
from the Magnus, Saberlight, taking open wounds
PMA. It's off the call, picking a lot of damage. Blast off, we'll miss though.
I'll have to have the RP here potentially.
Hazer goes off and...
He doesn't have a skill.
Attempted TP.
You know what I'm saying, it would be nice to have it here.
Oh, he doesn't have a skill though.
Okay, so he can't use it.
Yeah, that's true. Keep it up, Cinder.
Here comes Ursa.
Keep interrupting. Good.
There he is.
And then he's gonna hit two.
There's the Skewer. Does not have RP still.
He's still, in case you missed that, PMA gets the chop.
And now Jackie, in very awful spot.
They saw him up to several heroes though,
he's got the juice and testing to run away.
He's gonna be fine, Jackie going not so much.
His killing spree brought to an end.
He's got the juice, still staying out of harm's way.
One wants to be a little bit greedy now.
He's got some bowling balls, he's hit by one.
This is so-
Awkward balls, it's a three for nothing, I believe.
What an unbelievably awkward fight that was.
I don't even know where to start.
I don't even know where to start.
Yeah, the ward obviously gives Navi the information
that it's coming, but yeah, they're just missed spells,
heroes out of position.
And ultimately, Navi should be happy with this result,
but yeah, this is the, I believe, the tail end of it.
Lena is just in the middle of four heroes here chasing down
a measly witch doctor.
It's going to get called for it.
And no ulti on Ursa already expended, means they can run him down too.
The original blast-off that started this fight, which you did not see in the replay, they're also missed.
Yeah.
It's a very scrappy fight, but Navi come out the victors easily with this engagement.
Especially considering Ursa was killed, who...
If Jackie had just chosen not to show up, he would have a battle theory and already another thousand gold almost at this point.
He's still far ahead, don't worry about that.
I thought it was the rage now, and Saber-Lite has come with some other members of his team to try to finish this tier 1 tower, there's the battle here we're talking about for Jackie Boy.
I'm not sure if they actually want to defend this though, just delaying it, they rely it.
Be a slow build in the mall bay.
Yeah, they'll get it eventually.
And in the meantime, Ursula is farming bottom, so this is relatively efficient.
I mean, despite that turn of events, you can see Jackie still comfortably in that first
play for the network. And second, for the first time, I feel like MOBA has been bottom
network of course, every single game so far. Good to see him up there.
Yeah, so this time he gets to play his Lina, which obviously, he feels very comfortable
in this here. I would say much more comfortable than on the OD, and has a good lane matchup
this time, so expected to see him here, to be honest. Nice stacks for PMA. A lot of
to be claimed here has a blade mail is going to work on the dagger given a
little bit of a friendly taser here from days a day's or if you won't nice thank
you all right is it gonna be first item yes it is blink the magnet so Niku wants
to have this very impactful reveal is they're going to smoke up now and he does in fact have
RP in case you're wondering. Obey. And it's time. And that's an easy pick off. Now I will say
for the first time I think of any of the games which has been many now that Riddies has picked
Witch Doctor in our cast he actually has a good setup for death ward. Here we go. The ult has
been not needed and or not used effectively in every single game and that's the first usage that
I've seen that's been pretty damn good. It's one of the things that's really interesting about Dota
when it comes to like levels of skill is that in my understanding in lower games Death Ward is
considered one of the most broken abilities in all of Dota with eggs and in pro Dota it almost
never matters. It's like his best spell in low rank and the worst spell in high rank.
That's how big the discrepancy is of how this hero actually interacts with positioning
an overall power level of the game. I mean, I'm not surprised that we've barely seen it
used successfully. I think it's one of the hardest spells in Dota 2.
Forgetting about the lower level games, the actual question here. I know that the numbers
need to be changed. If it was not channeling, how crazy would that be for pro games? I feel
like positioning-wise, they'd still probably deal with it to some degree. It's probably
not as OP as you would originally think. It would be really good if it wasn't channeling.
I mean, you'd have to lower the damage, obviously. I'm just saying.
So then you're basically making it more reliable but worse.
Yes.
Yeah, I mean, I could see that.
I mean, I'm not saying I even want that change.
You could also... Yeah, what if it could move, but then it did even less damage, and it had 400 move speed.
Okay, yeah, I like that.
What if it stunned?
But you could give it move speed with Warcry, things of that nature.
What if it stunned but it's 0 damage?
Yeah, just...
...firm as stunned?
Yeah, what do you think?
Yeah, great.
Jacky will...
That was close.
Just luck the timing, really.
It was just blinking for efficiency as he was getting jumped by PMA.
That did not seem like a premeditated dodge.
in PMA. We're going to show them so they're going to find a techie fishing and successful
in PMA. More fishing. They fall onto Jocum but I don't think they're going to follow it
up. So much fishing. We'll find the D-Word off of this though. So Niku showcasing why
Nobby wanted this hero this game with a couple of nice blink-on-key skewer-blink-skewer plays.
In order to justify it, I feel like they must consider this a counter to Luna. It's an elimination
game. The hero is barely picked, and you pick it specifically against that and nothing else
that it's obviously good against. It's okay against Impede, I suppose, so I don't remember
the exact draft order though. I think Centaur was picked late, right?
Um, it must be it.
They think it's Selena counter.
Why are you complaining? We get to see a new hero.
I'm not complaining. I'm trying to understand.
I mean, when heroes aren't popular, it's generally for a good reason, right?
Or people are just dumb.
That's always a possibility.
We've seen it before. They keep picking Darkseer.
They listen to Cinder and say he's the most OP hero.
Guess what? He's got a 20-some percent win rate. He's garbage.
Look everybody thought that when the tournament started that he was going to be the hot shit because I didn't think anything
Yeah, I came in with a blank slate like you're supposed to the purse should listen to you and just random
Got the juice
Shot
Really done from Nemesis. They're gonna get back stab though. Oh, they may look for opening gets it the call onto the Lena
So that looks to be a trade
Oh, so close!
He'll kill the centaur for you to make me eat the shit out of that thing.
Nice attempt though from Niku there, trying to pull him just close enough with the shockwave in time.
Narrowly escaping certain death is Saber-Lite.
And one for one trade.
There's an axe, second item, unsurprisingly given the matchups.
How does Horned Toss work with the increased status resist from Enrage?
Does it still work properly?
I'm pretty sure it just still gets tossed, yeah.
But if you use it with Ag's mid toss, I assume it works.
About to break you out of the dude. Yeah, it probably makes you out of it. I would have seen I
Don't think so actually maybe not because it could be like toss because it wouldn't work against yeah
I don't think that would work it the thing that the eggs does it removes stuns like that looks terrible
What are these part of the restoration back?
We're like booted festering miss that facet. Yeah
Giving witch doctor a radiance. Yeah, that was a really good idea
That's the last time wish
You are so so strong
That was one of the things facets did do it brought certain heroes that don't get much love in the proceed back for a bit
but uh
It wasn't balanced
But at least we got to see which doctor and then people got sick of it after a day
It was longer than I did.
And the low rank games were just even worse.
So I'm hearing.
It was actually really bad at turbo, actually.
Really?
Because you don't need help farming.
I guess.
Very even game, which is what we wanted to see in this game.
Two was a stomp. One was all over the place.
There's still plays and misplays and a couple good plays in there as well, I'm sure.
The good news for Navi is if this becomes a bit of a timid game because the stakes are higher
and the players are nervous to make mistakes, they have very clear cut, easy to set up initiation heroes.
Blink call and Blink skewer are very safe to use on to Lena whenever you see her
Or any of the supports for that matter, especially the fishing is nice there
You don't really want to use call and a clockwork in a potential team fight
I
Think considering Magnus has the same net worth as Lena which kind of baffles me actually
They're in a pretty good position. I think this is all right. I
I do think part of the reason MOBA's net worth on Lina is lower than most players do see.
I mean this game has three deaths, which obviously doesn't help, but he does rush mags more than any other player.
Maybe he's even the only one to do it. I think almost everybody else goes Kayayasha.
And the major upside to that is you have more move speed, you have more mana,
which means it just transforms to a significantly faster farming speed.
You could see his form in it's faster than average, that it's not because he's having an outstanding game, it's because he's buying it first.
So, it's a give and take situation where this gives him a really strong power spike right now if there were to fight,
but with every passing minute that he's hitting the jungle, Kaya Yasha would have been a better value proposition the entire time.
And he'll probably get it in the end anyway, he just buys the items in opposite order, among those players too.
the
same life finishes hard as my life early in the series or some are picked up the 13 minutes
He's bottom net worth of the Corsor was at least and now the Magnus will take that role.
Hookshot misses, Stampede, but trying to get the catch not going to happen it seems.
So maybe now he's getting a little bit of an opening now.
Meh.
Nothing.
Even with the tree gone by Ursa, but that gets stuck in the tree line.
He's going to get skewered to a baby amount though.
They were likely to get a nice double hook stop blast up right on top as well.
Riddies likely to die.
Staying alive thanks to that blue to restoration.
They're going to kill off the techies first.
It's only stuck in a horrible spot.
Got the juice gift to kill.
Jumps inside a PMA.
I have to settle for another support.
Nobby coming out ahead of this fight regardless.
Don't go.
Jackie's still in fighting shape it seems.
Kills off days.
I'm going to try to focus on the lightsaber.
No he does not have any effect.
Kind of fight his way out of it with the help of Saber-like, it's open moons though.
Got the juices back to farming as they have double battle hunger on Jackie.
Still has the enrage.
Enough is enough.
We'll get rid of the hunger.
The three cards in real life, by the way, in case you need some trick there.
Very hungry, just enrage.
It's a good way to get rid of hunger, just get really upset.
Is that from like a Snickers commercial?
I think that's the opposite version.
What a good reference nonetheless.
If you eat a European Snickers then you get enraged, because it's not as good as the American.
Because we use elitist chemicals, PMA against Huffstock.
It's Averlite, okay they're just gonna focus on the creeps instead, and we have a bunch of blink daggers coming out.
Finally, Averlite can close the gap, and I believe Moway picked one up as well, so they're gonna have triple blink daggers.
Yeah, initiation is definitely not gonna be the issue, and for now the damage is good too.
Jacky closing in on BKB, just the recipe off, giving him even more safety in the fights.
I think it could make an argument for Bank Basher in the slot, actually, before BKB in
this game, but this is the ultimate sustain build.
Just wants to be able to stay in there, get the damage out, save or light, all the rocket
flares are good setup.
Well, if the blinkbacks get the most stops, they have stuns for days. Nice pick-off from Nemesis.
That's Roche!
Yeah, exactly. Anytime you have an Urse you get one core kill. Probably enough to get Roche.
BKB's pretty close for Jackie as well.
Centaur can take this all day with a heart.
I don't know about all day.
In substantial damage taken.
Taser, makes it even better.
We'll be already setting up the potential to play on the bottom here.
Flame cloak on.
Activate it.
Is he gonna get a blind one?
No.
They're gonna get help from the Stampede though.
Now the other side, Saberlight.
That's his creep to help out, Taser.
He'll be dead.
Got the juice.
Already used the infest.
Okay, a little greedy here, but he's got reinforcements now.
It's got Sontra and Yasha now.
On a lifestealer?
Yeah.
Did I like the four acts? Yeah, it's one of the few heroes in Dota that still feels good.
I've just happened to not see Manta. I kind of throw up a little in my mouth every time that's picked up on a lifestealer.
Yeah, it's a pretty visceral reaction.
Guess it checks out.
Probably proceeding with the European Snickers, those puns.
Battlehunger's a Jackie boy.
This is awkward. He has Aegis and their 4v5.
It's called, Blade Mail's gonna take some of the damage, but Jackie's gonna continue to fight the way out of this, or try to get skewered away, they're gonna burn life number one.
Now what does Navi wanna do?
Enforcement's coming though, Saber-Lite gets on the most up on the 2, they don't let you fall into the trap to be, he can watch the BKB to no avail.
Damnit!
And of course there's the apps, but they don't leave.
And PMA gonna get hookshot.
Is this another instance where Navi should have just been happy with the Aegis denying effectively?
I think you could make an argument. They shouldn't have made a move in the first place.
They were 4v5 and they initiated into an Aegis Ursa.
Well, they get that kill and run, aren't they fine?
I mean, that's okay. It's just thinking of it from a risk-reward perspective.
Was that even...
The fact that they got that kill and could have run away was maybe already.
And I'm not going to say an unlikely result, but at risk of the very least.
Now things look quite rough. So you're going to see here, like this...
Imagine there's one or two heroes nearby from them. It's just how bad this could have been.
Like, PMA gets cut down to half by Ursa himself already.
If they run here, Joachim can catch up to one person.
Yeah, you'd think.
Maybe they still get caught. It's hard to tell.
I don't know. Hard to tell.
I'm not a big fan of the play to begin with. I don't think you have what it takes to make this move at that point. That's very negative of you
Great play from Nemesis
Well done
And Joakim has blink daggers, so the only one
Without one is Narmint. Yeah, like that very soon, of course makes a lot of sense with techies
For the side to can you use blink mid blast off?
What happens I don't think you can I think you have to land first you have to land first
Yeah, I mean if you let's say you could use blink then it was just your blood. Yeah
But it would give you an extra distance on blink
Yeah, well you could also use them in opposite order then
Well, then you have to wait the channel time you can't do it immediately. I see what you mean. Yeah
Just come on
Cinder break rate again. Keep up with reaction. Keep up with these shitty thoughts.
Uh-oh. Let's get the hook stop on the magnet.
Chandy won't jump in as well.
Inside the Cods, Nico actually gave it enough time to get away.
Now got the juice. Trying to get some initiation going by just running at him.
Death Ward already used. Nobody noticed. Savorlight.
Makes the open wounds right now. Stay people stolen, by the way.
And to get the stun, yes, the cast is enough.
Savorlight.
Should there be any rocket flare, I might be enough almost.
I thought it was there to stay alive a little bit longer. Ready?
I'm not going to do too much damage to Saberlight. As the Maladik will wear off, that heart is enduring.
And Saberlight somehow survives.
They only lose one hero there.
On the side of Nemesis, RP was never used.
Probably pretty happy with that, given how that started to shape up.
You can kind of see the mood of Nemesis' players based on whether Sabeline plays his own voice line.
He did survive that fight, so he's a little goblin.
When he doesn't survive the fight, he is silent.
So we're right behind this voice line.
You'd have to ask him, maybe he's a little goblin.
No matter if you're listening, if you ever interview him, can you just ask about that please?
We're really interested. Somebody reach out to Nomad if he's not watching at the moment, please.
Big fan of Folderscape, perhaps.
I'm guessing there's goblins.
There's goblins in a lot of Dungeons and Dragons stuff.
I see.
I've heard.
He's also a Harry Potter fan.
Not a nerd, of course.
There's goblins in Harry Potter.
Yeah, maybe he's a Harry Potter fan.
That could be.
Maybe he works at Gringots.
Yeah, maybe he's a WoW fan.
There's a lot of goblins in that too.
Yeah, that's a good shout out there.
Or maybe he's just describing every Dota player.
Savorlight with the Stampede.
Yeah, play the line.
There's the basher, this is a really important item this game.
The ability to burst Magnus before he gets skewer off or to kill lifestealer before he
gets infested off makes a huge difference.
I believe God the Juice has, is that a completed item coming out his way?
Yes, it is the axe.
So has counter play now, so the Ursa, if he doesn't get caught in said bash and just
killed off immediately.
This matchup is quite different than it used to be.
It's not as or so different.
Nirmans.
They're farming Nirmans.
They blow up all his mines.
All that hard work wasted.
Death Ward on the saver line.
Death Ward!
He killed the Centaur.
The Goblin Centaur.
Yep.
He's actually going for axe.
Very good shot.
Just a moment.
There's a scape.
Out of there.
He's actually going for axe very good shot and just a moment for this game
Out of there. All right, great this agate and scepter syndrome for this game or in general this game, of course
Pretty good if you can clutch out and save onto X call in particular
I think it's very hard to get a cart save against our peace viewer. Hey, what?
What are we talking about? I thought you're talking about Centaur. No
I'm sorry about that all right. Oh could have hit the new button, but I just don't want to reach over
Yeah, that's rough. Sorry to everybody out there. Who's X then? I thought it was some time which doctor. Oh
Yeah, I mean this is that worth talking about is you ever gonna get it?
Link call maybe
That is a great philosophical question
He's got Grigory, it's worth 700, it's gonna be worth...
Oh, why don't you get that 10,000?
He'll probably get there in like 10 minutes, but it's not too bad.
He's gonna die now.
He's dead here, doesn't have a shark.
That's more gold for the Grigory.
That's right.
Mobe.
Yeah.
Oh, mercy.
He's gonna push back the lifestealer.
He's gonna get fast!
Stunlock!
Ableton survive a little bit longer with the agon.
And then Scepter into Jackie, going into a lot of HP back.
And Jackie's gonna continue trying to right through the way.
By the way, Furious Webs are stacking up against the other side of the river though, and it's fine.
Jokun's gonna die instead of Jackie.
So this time he's holding the run out of resources otherwise, who hopped it?
Any tide is not gonna eat up the Witch Doctor again, but it's a moment he may instantly cancel, thanks to that status resist.
But Jackie, look at all these battles on the fly.
Oh, Dustin, who just barely survives, another Infest, and a High Montenegro.
They kill off the bear, a huge fight for Na'Vi.
It was a dieback for the Witch Doctor, but now they get to open with Southern Armin.
And it's gonna be the death of him eventually.
So after all set is done, 4 for technically 2?
Yeah, Riddies die back. Why did we start talking about his eggs?
He'll get there one day, and that Grigory is gonna be the biggest of all time.
And now it's still 60 minutes.
Obviously an amazing outcome there for Navi, and what a difference it makes.
If Lifestealer evades one less attack there, I think it's actually dead to the Ursa, so really, really close.
The fight would have just been over on the spot. You didn't see the replay here, so the execution pretty good here. Good chaining. Maybe it could have been slightly better.
And that would have made the difference.
Could have been an instant kill onto the lifestealer, but he survived.
Of course, that usage has drawn out so much.
Well, stolen cogs, really screws with Jackie here as well. Look at that. Triple bounce.
Yeah, that was rough.
I managed to of course kill the death warding witch doctor who did a measly 100 damage there, but that's okay
I think all they came for an off-camera axe was killed
I'm gonna risk, honey spree
Oh my god
Oh, fuck
Yeah, good points
Nobody else is talking
I'd love to just hear an entire game, you still obviously watch scrims a lot with DC.
There's a lot of talking.
This was obviously an isolated one microphone kind of thing.
There's more things being said at that time.
I would hope.
Otherwise if 10 seconds of your teamfight communication is oh, oh fuck, that's not great.
Smoke the Navi.
Talk about the next play or, you know.
All right, smoke up indeed, level 20 axe.
On the prowl.
Gonna walk through a mine.
Armin.
Armin, what a perfect, okay, let's sheave us.
Okay, oh, smoke into the ward.
Something.
Man, it's a scary lineup to fight against, I have to say.
You always have to worry about the call, obviously,
and then, Niku on the Magnus.
unlucky timing there they just checked the pit spawns a second after and nobody's
going in to check a second time so they don't have the information radiant
however do they just rocket-flared it I mean it's not like they could have
killed it that fast it's just they're playing without the information just
knowing that it's alive is useful info
How late of a spawn was it?
Uh, I don't remember what the kill time was.
Moby Arcane!
That's a 10.
Good timing on the blade from PMA.
Offs the BKB.
Mobe.
And it's done.
Thanks for telling me.
This is going to stay speed away.
The R&B will find them those skewered backs into the arms of gritties.
The counter hook shot them out.
The workforce comes to play with a blast off from Norman.
They're saving this lead and Mobe don't get knocked by the life stealer eventually.
The infest is just too much to handle.
And a nice call at the last moment, going to cancel the TP onto the Centaur, down goes Saber-Lynes, Jackie Boy now on the retreat, has to use the BKB and ult to try to walk away.
It's got the juice, will continue to pursue, gets the Abyssal Blade and the infest just to finish it in style.
That should never happen, let's get a replay of that.
replay of that.
Centaur is two seconds through his TP and Ursa starts walking in to look for a fight.
They were not at all on the same page about what was going on there and you can see the
damage numbers.
Life stealer just got to do whatever he wanted in that fight but illegal to get an Ursa kill
in that situation.
Like you can get the Centaur if you think that fight is lost and Centaur TP's out, so be
it.
But look at this replay.
So first of all, really desperately trying to find this pick, don't get a nice attempt
from days to get the call out of this. Not quite reaching. Ursa will jump in, not enough
for the kill. Moe Bay is in the really compromised spot. Nice save. Nice save for now, but they
don't get him out of there, so he will be pulled off. And now what comes after this
is just not it. Saberlight starts TPing. Ursa just walks into him and gets called. They
get a bonus kill there that they had no business getting, and that is the biggest kill they
could possibly get. The top network of the Radiant team just giving them a bonus little
snack there. And now the game is back to even.
We got ourselves a banger as the axe taking heavy damage, normal though outnumbered, so
eventually he's going to drop. Got the juice, we'll get another 10 HP out of that bad boy.
What does he got? A Bissell. What's he going for? So, I guess Blink into the overwhelming.
So that'll be a consumed axe or just the faceboots at that stage.
He'll have some room to grow.
I'd like to see a Daedalus for the axe.
Some sort of heart-hitting because he needs it.
MKB at all doesn't look like it.
The man who likes to, I need some late-game fights as to stay alive.
He will do the damage over time.
So...
What do you want to see on him?
I think his build is fine.
I know, so that's an off-side hookshot.
I'm blocked, you can't be able to secure the Aegis, forgot the juice, don't go dead easy kill, infest first, after overwhelming blink.
Hmm, trying to say AC, AC is pretty good.
It feels a little bad as like the absolute 7th final item to get AC.
I mean, I wouldn't mind Scotty either, actually. Just like, beefing up even further, getting more, like, well-rounded items.
Okay, we'll see. I think he will get there. It's highly unlikely that this game will get there.
He needs an extra Dispel, Satanic, could also be fine.
Yeah. Don't think that's likely in this one against these heroes.
And Radiance could always turn into the nullifier, which this game...
Yep, that would also be good.
What do they have? They have Glimmer, Solar Crest, Four Staff.
Yeah, it would be pretty solid.
In some cases, Life's Delirious can also buy Dispersor.
I don't think that's this game either.
We'll get our answer soon enough.
Maybe just get a Rape here, you know?
Just be done with it.
I will say, with the Agonist being nerfed duration-wise,
the Absolute's just pure damage items kind of got nerfed in a way.
in a way you could say because you're getting one less attack now while inside enemies that is
yep got the juice tier two for that three half minutes on ages we'll see over on there on him
getting a shark this game he's not he wouldn't buy it if you had 50 000 gold
it's just more net what if you had absolutely nothing else he wouldn't buy it yeah but you're
You're just increasing the net worth if you die at the enemy team.
Like, you just give them that a lot of PMA.
Cool.
Like,
Arce will get that just fine.
They will get the techies though.
Shop them.
For the people that love
finishing achievements, right?
Completing everything.
If you have everything else
and there's no reason to spend gold anymore,
you kind of want to get that extra blue little icon.
Well,
you know what, buy Axe and Moonshards.
Or excuse me, Moonshards for all his teammates.
He's not Alchemist, relax everybody.
Okay, he has all his items,
and the items he wants to cycle in and out,
and he has bought moonshots for every hero,
including Rubik and Witch Doctor.
Yeah, then he could maybe go for it.
Then I think he would still save more gold for more races.
Say the line, you're gonna find the Magnus,
hook shot is there,
so everyone's gonna use the workhorse to get away.
Very nice pick up, it's 80 seconds,
so that's gonna burn that amount of time
at the ages effectively for non-V.
Niko in a really compromised position there,
And if they want to try to fish with him there, I'm okay with it, but you gotta have the Rubik nearby for us to telekinesis save in that case.
They stole the workhorse, by the way.
That's all nice and fine, but your hero's dead, so...
Don't really know.
He'll have it for the next fight soon, right? Think ahead, think positive. Wait.
If Mag wants to fish you.
Where is it? It's gone.
Wait, did he have it for that one? There's no way he had it that long.
No, it's... it's fine.
Yeah, what the hell is that?
Unlucky.
Did you know it was bugged?
No.
Rubik so you know yeah, I mean I will say the workhorse had a ton of bugs. Yeah before
And let me about 95% of them part now for PMA
Very very tanky. I got the juice to spite not having a magnet still feeling pretty comfortable to get some damage on this building
It's on the bush banner as well. So
I have to wait for Magnus to TP to the outpost
and actually bring out the centaur, he's gonna stampede away, and they kill off the roastman, I'm not, I don't understand this play at all.
And I'm gonna blade on Godfrey, they are not on the same page, what's...
This is Navi and Anucho when they try to finish the game, Cinder, and...
I'm just thinking like, why not wait 20 seconds to come Magus there, and then do that?
Like, sure you only have one minute left in the Aegis then instead of 120, but you can protect your banner,
because the enemy team can't go hit it, because you can just skewer them out.
I mean now you see gendered and you don't get to use your edges at all
I and there's no time limit on the rush man. It can always save you later. Yeah, but that's I
Alice most from Nemesis
There's the overwhelming blink for got the juice we swapping that in for the ages in a moment's time
Looks like PMA. He's a tough deal. You could all do they have vision if jam on centaur
I don't think he's an agent.
Okay, hook shot.
There is a lifesteal, you know what I'm saying?
A little surprise for Joakim.
It's off the cog with the jet pack as well.
But he's gonna get right quick down easily by got the juice.
And with that, Nemesis will fall back.
It was Navi, they'd go in 4v5, of course.
Ages down.
The bigger question is whether they're going 5v4.
They're gonna try it, seems.
Got the juice with that overwhelming blink.
5K, St. Eli Steeler.
Yeah, he's tough.
4K HPX.
They are leading the way.
Rage is popped.
Zephyr Light.
Waiting in the wings.
They won't finish the barracks.
Fogshot?
Okay, that's pretty...
Good attempt with Niko following up.
The counteracted now is Jackie Boy, a little bit of trouble, gets put inside the cart,
gonna get some right-hand game on the pushback, and there's the RP though,
from several heroes, Jackie Boy falls, and that's 100 seconds on the deck, along with the Centaur,
so no way to get back in the game, it might just be over.
And very, that was very backwards fashion that that ended up working out well for Navi,
but that's all it's gonna take. Oftentimes late game Magnus is like this, you need to find the
one good RP feels like the first really strong one of the game and that will
probably end Nemesis's run here about to take Megas at the bare minimum.
Oh yeah, here's his Anaheim on the middle bay as well. Hookshot's going to delay him a little bit, but the double battle hunter on top is completely out now.
He gets off the yule, and again there's two cores without my back.
This is now the death of lean up. We'll get the witch doctor, but it is not nearly the same
We'll buy back on lean up. They have another buyback for the clockwork. It's the 45 seconds for HRSA 30 for the centaur
This is almost certainly mega creeps nice to store usage there keeping lean at bay
All the calls in 10th block for the techies nullifier on top of them as well get skewered back dead
No way to get back in the game for him now
And that is officially Begged Groups for Na'Vi, and then looking at Finish, and why not?
You know the buyback situation is, Krithi die or 4 of the Radiant, no pun intended.
That's the tier 4s.
Down and out, so the Ancient Exposed Na'Vi gonna take this series.
Very entertaining game number 3, and it's Moby caught off guard again.
Trying to save him is the Centaur, but he just can't get quite close and finally does so,
So before taking any damage, MoMA will eventually get burned down inside of the ancients.
Actually, living here.
Where's that fountain?
They can get the life stealer, actually.
And Jackie, boy.
He's alive.
He gets a fashion plan of PMA.
ARP comes out.
You good?
Trying to finish the game.
And they get it in time before...
Looks like they will.
One more right click.
We'll do it.
Surely!
All right, days.
Can you finish it now?
No!
Triple kill for Jackie.
4 buybacks for Na'Vi, alright?
Okay.
There is no fortification, so they just go in and tap this thing.
They've got the deso now on 2.
That is kind of a weird end of the game.
They jump-set with the call, not reduced with the rage,
focusing the ancient, and they will get it.
So Na'Vi takes the series 2-1.
Oh.
Imagine losing after that.
They would have somehow lost there.
Somehow lost there. That would have been the naviest moment of all time, but they do get the job done
They do move on to top six
I will say that I think have to sharpen up if they want to have a chance at a higher place and now I give a segue to Richard
Segway accepted. Yeah, they're laughing now me you're laughing
That's gonna been the real tears instead of tears of joy that
right now because this type of a play like somebody had to say we're going all in we're
buying this or you're buying this on your Magnus you have AC all you need is like two
three right clicks to be able to finish it off but yeah this team is very entertaining
to watch. They make the games very interesting but from their own perspective they and the
game should not look like this. There is some insane level of self-sabotage in these boys
like, CY's gotta crack the whip, brother. Niku, man. What is going on in some of these
games getting picked off right in front of the enemy base? The thing is, bro, they're
doing the hard part. They're winning lanes. They're miraculously winning teamfights. They're
gigafarmed. They're doing all of the hard things to do. And then when it comes to the
easy stuff, but the stuff that's boring, they can't handle it. It's the ADHD. I'm telling
It's a TikTok generation.
Now, I respect it.
Don't buy BKBs.
Don't do anything.
Just, you know, it's boring.
Don't do it.
I love it.
Yeah, a lot to see them actually succeed.
Like, they will have another chance in the lower bracket.
But every single game they play, why does it have to be like this?
It really doesn't have to be like this.
Like, you don't need to pull it back.
Like, those games that we're supposed to lose,
like, it can also go like, we got to also talk about Nemesis.
So yeah, Nemesis also had a pretty massive lead.
I think they had like 11, maybe 12,000 gold lead
at one point in the game.
But this Life Stealer got the juice
when he is on a winning hero.
If he's the winning condition, he is going to deliver.
And this time around, he also had Empowered to play with,
playing into Centaur.
He just eats him alive.
Same goes for Ursa in these later engagements.
Ursa doesn't really do much to Life Stealer.
It's so funny how this fight started,
and it turns into something so good.
It's just like the ultimate jubate, Yocum is not alive.
The double RP at the end there was absolutely gorgeous onto two heroes that have no buyback at this point.
So, that was the game.
I respect Daze's attempt there, right?
Just like forcing spells to be used.
And if Niku did hit the skewerback, like that would have looked really sick.
But even just going in with the hookshot there, some of these Rubik players that are really good at using the stolen spells,
They make it look like an absolute S tier heroes picked pretty early in the draft this time and
There was that one fight where he was using the cogs and it was actually like the turn around fight
Yeah, with the nurse of the game three times with the cogs completely zoned him out
Very very impressive performance coming out from him on rubik also had insanely good rubik game number one
Where he was carrying where he was stealing the spells getting out of the trouble using marana's leap solo killing people here and there
definitely like when we talk about this team this is the only switcheroo that
they did the replacing ziats with the days and yeah looking at the graph and
that seemed like they not gonna say that they had it because of the lineup that
they were playing against but then that's pretty little bit at the end it is
like you're they almost won with a gold deficit that's that's the pretty way
right there.
Correct.
Great stuff.
I've got to say as well, though, I'm like you, I love the Rubik coming into this tournament.
I think it's really good to see, especially in those games where there's big spells to
steal.
Yeah, it's a clutch hero.
I mean, any time you have a meta that allows for skill expression, it's really nice.
And it's also nice to have it like swap between the roles, because sometimes that's the mid
role, sometimes that's the forward role.
Rarely it's the off lane role.
It is cool to see it swap around and Rubik is definitely one of those heroes from four position. Yeah, you can see more of it
Oh, absolutely. Yeah, those other fours are getting heavily targeted. No hoodwinks. No dark willows
So Marana is getting banned as well
Some teams are playing it as a four and you're not left with the many range options
So Rubik also very good like we saw it yesterday being very effective against Timbersoh as well stealing some of his spells
Unfortunately Timber yesterday and the day with zero and four and thanks to Rubik in some of the games
So Navi have done it. They've won a series which we're all super excited about. That means we go over to a winners interview with Nomad and got the juice.
We certainly do. Firstly, congratulations. Got the juice. You're first here at the playoffs. Congrats.
So this third game, an interesting carry matchup. The Ursa vs the Lifestealer. Just what are your thoughts on this?
Like I just thought like it was overall free game for Nikes because they pick in Tower of
Lane we have this option of let's pick. I'm pretty sure they want to let's pick this
prophet in this game like we banned it, 1v3 and we have a lot of good options like
for example I can play Sven, I can play Lecigar, I can play TA in this game and it's
gonna be like fine. So we just decided to pick Lecigar in free game and we have
kind of not bad draft in Lecigar also, we have Dragon, Plane, Axe, we have RP, we have
say from Rubik, so we kind of fucked up so much moments in game I would say, but overall
we like compose and after and you certainly did. I noticed in the booth we saw from the
cameras a lot of laughter in the team. What was that about? Like after game, right? Yeah,
yeah, when the game when game three finished, I was just trying to say something like I
I play super bad, like this game, and start starting laughing, and it's like, this game is so shit, like, I cannot get it, like, if I say that, and it's, it's the same thing, mostly.
So, would it be fair to say the general mood in the side of Na'Vi is that you guys aren't playing your best right now?
About MUT, I would say we're trying to improve from every game, like trying to stable our gameplay, because I cannot say that we play perfect, we fucked up in much more months in-game, we fucked up with our item builds, mostly I think in the first game we also fucked up in our item builds, like, and yeah, we're just trying to improve our small scenes, and MUT is good, we'll see.
Well you're certainly looking good in the later two games. Game number two was quite strong, quite sort of stable from you guys.
Game three I would say a little bit messier. Which do you prefer to play? Do you like it when the game gets messy, when there's lots of fighting, or do you like it when you can just control the map easily?
I like to control the map and when we don't panic, we don't try to overforce something.
Like we play for our timings.
Game 2, for example, I have just free game for Urs, I will lane, kind of destroy it just by dagger and kill everyone, take rush.
Game is kind of over, they cannot do anything.
Like, third game, I would say, because we have a lot of jumps, like Magnus X, so Niko got fucked by Klokka, we fight.
Like, he press urn on him for vision, he press rockets, and he cannot really find his game, so I remember this fight when we were fighting in the jungle, Vicky Lursen.
And after he's staying after I
just don't break the QB because
if I can just break the QB and
terpian him, he'll instantly
and this will win the game at
this moment. But for some reason
I don't do it and game is harder
and harder, but we just play our
own game. I go I go inside
and there's someone fight up
inside and we just regroup and
play chill game, trying to play
chill game. Chill games indeed.
Well, hopefully that's what you've
got in store ahead. I'm really
hoping to see you guys pull out
some more wins here at Black
it, I'm talking about the
KTV. A lot of things here.
Black yeah, God, just thank
you very much. We'll send it
back to the panel. Yes you
heard it there. I mean, under
no illusions that certainly
it wasn't the smoothest of
sailing. Also think it's great
like when the games chaotic.
Not really. I'm a carry. I just
like the farm and turn up and
I don't want my team to do
anything stupid in the interim,
but unfortunately that is not
the novel. Now be way of doing
things. They've been very
right now in my opinion absolutely glad that they've done it quite a lot more
serious for them to play and I want to see if maybe gamer legion because I would
put them in the same spot yeah same category they play dota can they pull it
off against 1w here indeed well that's what we're going to now we're gonna take
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tournament life this early, when usually they're pretty consistent, they don't always win, but they usually have decent runs.
So what's been going on?
Yeah, it seems like ever since the IT, like something's just not clicking for the team. I don't know if they were maybe, yeah, no, maybe they were, they had a great season, previous one, they won many tournaments, but maybe the change of meta or stuff like that just doesn't favor them at the moment.
Like if you look at probably the toughest game that they played yesterday against team Yandex,
that was not close. That was not close at all.
I also think that they get pretty heavily out drafted with these two early timbersaw picks.
We said that timbersaw after yesterday, he was sitting at 0-4 and also lost to,
let's call Yandex's draft, like one of the most popular drafts that we have seen so far in the tournament
with Viper, Klinkz and Slark. Like usually you don't see these three here.
these are like three cores that you have on the team, but they just kind of ran over them with this
Slark mid against the matchup that they also didn't respect. Yeah, I mean, it works. Like,
when I was looking at those drafts, I felt kind of the same where, okay, the Timber saw early
pick, it got super punished. I do think new things are coming out to counter it, and that's why the
hero is falling off. But also on the flip side, Yandex themselves, not that they're in the series,
But just to mention them about the timber they do pick the timber and a lot of the time it is on like 18 pick or something when
They see the entire draft. They know that it's gonna have a good game
So I kind of feel like like I know everyone is on a little bit of a one-win hate train right now. I
Feel like yesterday at the very least they got griefed by their drafts way harder than they did by those two
play drafts on that would be
moon meander I think it's moon
and moon and Ari because the
sea of lightning 33 is definitely
not 33. I mean it's a whole it's
a whole team thing right and
sometimes you just misunderstand
a hero but I wanted to look at
one wins history in the
Wallachias because you know
their previous few seasons have
not been so great in the
Wallachias 15th through 16th
last season their worst
performance it has been getting
getting worse and worse and worse for them as they have been applying basically since they changed from tundra. They have
giga struggled at the Balakias. But what I wanted to show was that this is a bit of a grudge match. It is a
revenge arc of gamer legion versus one win because one win knocked gamer legion out of T.I. So this was quite devastating for
them. And the thing with
Gamreligion is they go to all of these tier one events, right?
They make it there. You know, to be fair, they were NA
qualifiers, but they make it there. And they do decent.
They never make it to playoffs in all of 2026. They have not made
it to a playoffs a single time. And in the most important
tournament of the year, which is TI, it's one win that keeps
them out of the playoffs. But this is their chance. This is
their chance to knock one win off their high horse and say, you knocked us out of TI. Well,
guess what? We're going to kick you while you're down. Yeah. While they're looking the weakest,
I think, you know, what they say, you strike iron while it's hot. And I think in this one,
Gamer Legion, they look good. They also look like, you know, in some of the games, it's like,
oh, Gamer Legion, they're going to be able to close it out. Navi style, they don't. But a team
that has been improving like really small steps and there are major land results you can see it here
it's been it has been getting better you know nine through 13th at the most important tournament of
the of the year is uh is very good you know nine through 10th it's not so bad they never they rarely
just completely bomb out in the in that last place right they're never like 16th place they're always
making it to the very end of the group stage and then just not making it through to the playoffs.
I just admire the commitment to it because obviously look, you know, we all know
NA Dota has been a meme for a while. It's not just Dota guys. I mean listen speaking as Mr. Esports
NA's dying everywhere. You know, we just had a legendary organization, one of the last ones standing
withdrawal from CS after 23 years complexity. Shout out to Jason Lake. I mean an absolute
and I love the fact that these guys still find a way to get to these tournaments and
they're flying the flag. They deserve your respect.
I think it's Trudeau's fault. He should have done more when he was president of
Canada and put more...
I think it's Kyle Swindlemelons at the time who played for Complexity ever since
he left the organization. The organization kind of went downhill.
Mr. T.
I think it's Kyle Swindlemelons at the time who played for Complexity ever since
and kinda went downhill.
Mr. Eternal Envy.
Yeah, absolutely.
Anyway, we do have the draft available
and Gamer Region, they're still gonna give respect
to the Stimbersaw that we talked a lot about
and every single hero pretty much
except for Keeper of the Light is a core hero.
So we are gonna be seeing quite a lot of supports available.
Still left in the pool.
Well, here it is.
An elephant in the room, Andrew.
We've talked a lot about bounty hunter, bounty hunter on day one, hotly contested, through
the next two, three days, it was the most contested.
People either picked it, but more often than not, it was banned out.
Then we saw it slip through a few times, what we quickly realized, if you are not a specialist
in this hero, it is going to suck.
So, over to you, Jenkins.
I just remember when we saw Big Num take this hero in the previous day, we talked it up
He's a bounty hunter player. He's got this and it was not that good. It was they lost
It did not look great. It was feeding across the map to be fair
That's what the hero does when it falls behind
But you are supposed to be the reason that your team does not fall behind you're setting up the kills
You're dodging the sentries. You're doing really annoying stuff like you know hitting the mid laner on the creep wave blocking him from
From going into you have a pun. No, no, nothing. I just wanted to say that they won that game. They did win the game
Oh they won, yeah they won.
Oh you're right, sorry it was Nemesis, yeah.
They did win that game. I think they still died about this though.
Yeah that's what he does the best.
He's confused the two.
Historically it's been a big numb hero.
I like the opening for one win, I think this...
What do you tell?
Because it's Dragon Knight though?
BZM has played it five times and did win four games like we saw a different itemization coming out of him this magic bill
Rushing aghanims in some of them picking up armlet in one of the games as well
Hydra's breath as his last item Mjolnir like there's the multiple ways to build this hero
But the key now is blink dagger pretty much
You pick up the shard because you are like the shard has been buffing constantly
It feels very good the AOE of course that he is getting from it from the worms worms wrap, but look GL band and Voker
Yes, so they think they think they could flex this thing. I think it's gonna be a shad or
Actually 30 probably 33 like we saw nemesis yesterday. We talked about it a lot
I caught it first time on stream from notice that he played the off-lane dragonite
It looked very very good
So it's something that teams have practiced to use this potentially as a flex and immediately
There's gonna be brewmaster
brewmaster has looked amazing pretty much in every single game that we've seen especially because a
Lot of brewmasters that we have seen have been picking up orchid as their first item to counter these
Mostly midlaners a lot of spirits. Nobody likes to play into orchid
So you still have a purpose outside of your ulti because this toolkit once you get out or pre ulti is really non-existent
And I do like when you have a BH to sometimes pick the double melee and you say
Okay, this lane is not gonna go well anyway
So let's just not lane like BH is one of the best creep cutters courier snipers in the game
and Brew is really happy to play with some playstyle like that.
And so it gives Gamer Legion this ability to pick these two heroes early,
and there's no situation where you'll see one win pick something that dumpsters them in lane,
and, oh no, how are they going to lane?
They didn't want to lane in the first place, so it's kind of like,
in a way, picking flexible heroes early, not because they can switch the roles that they're playing,
but because they're flexible on how they play the game.
game. Very good pairing. You will never lack damage between these two. You can keep people
inside his shard for a really long time. Bramble Maze into Dragantail stun into either Terrorize
or a Cursed Crown. So quite a lot of damage, quite a lot of control so far from 1W with
just only two heroes. There's a lot of good heroes still in the pool actually. Yeah, Marana
is still available. Techies, Wyvern is still available. If you really want to kill the
Burr before a split, Ayn is there. Ayn is there, yeah. I was thinking the same if they feel like
they need extra bit of control. Something that he is going to be afraid of. Definitely Bane.
Wypon so far, his hero pool is relatively small. He only played five heroes so far.
They got inspired by what happened in the previous game. Life's other stonks are,
I'd say through the roof six nine I like this cent win rate, but I don't think it does him justice
I like this a lot because I feel like no matter what the next two picks are
Lifestealer would already look like a really good hero because it's so good in this lane
You're gonna free farm. It means whatever support is picked can go do other stuff
It's a good pairing with DK
It's an infest bomb and I think the support that could come out on 18 or potentially
the offline that can come out on 18.
If there's more revealed from the gamer Legion side,
you can get more out of that hero slot
than what the carry would be.
Are you surprised to see that game Legion
haven't found out due?
Yeah, it can still come out.
You can go for due.
Yeah, it's very effective against Brumat.
Very good, yeah.
33 has extremely high win rate.
Are they gonna go dazzle natures?
Is that okay?
Yeah, that's the combo.
I mean, I think it was yesterday we looked at the numbers.
This was the most successful laning combo.
Well, they have a...
That's still the case.
They have a 18 pick off laner to counter it.
So I'm really curious to see...
They could dazzle it out.
Sorry, they could pick axe.
So you always have the dunk target.
Very good against nature's profit.
Extra bit of a control.
You have, like we've seen the two cores
in the previous game with the Lysthieler and axe.
If they wanna be getting the jump,
they also had the melee mid laner
who builds into Blink Dagger rushes it.
So same thing can be applied here with the Dragonite.
I would just be a little worried
about its suffering in lane to Nature's Dazzle.
That was like the first matchup that I saw
was this lane against Axe and it just destroyed him.
But it's hard to theory craft something that beats it.
You're probably gonna lose that lane no matter what.
So I'm thinking Doom, Doom can be very good,
but I would probably choose Axe over the Doom.
I just had production in my ear there. It's the most picked safely an option, but not the most
It's 33 so I picked it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean we make sense 18 pick do was always yeah
There it is in the post you're gonna get shit on the lane may as well pick something
It's just gonna farm regardless, you know, you can eat the trees which is mediocre at best, but it's something
Listen, okay, here we go silence sir. He's glass pick for 1w
You can actually go in, stun the target, kill it before Dazzle does anything very good against the Brewmaster.
I can actually get behind the silencer. I can. The problem is, the problem is 24 pick.
What could gamer Legion pick on mid that would like...
Abuse silencer? Like anything abusing silencer later on?
Like in mid. You have to like in mid going.
But I like it. I mean, I get I get the idea right like dazzle is other than picked with nature's profit
It's kind of ignored as a hero and dazzle conceptually makes you play the game very different from other heroes
So if a dazzle comes out, this is why we immediately talk about acts
right you have to counter the save that's coming out from him and one of the only ways of doing that is
is global silence. This is really great. Anything that can disable the entire team and you can
focus and kill one guy like Ravage is also pretty decent against it.
Yeah, I think Wyvern could be also very good. It does allow you to have extra bit of a save.
Even though Nexus Profit builds into more magic damage build, it's a good way of resetting
the fight. It's relatively okay against the Brewmaster. It goes both ways. I would be
also looking at the bane that you mentioned, but Jokes aside, I think it's a pretty good
silencer game.
Oh, why?
I like the Wyvern suggestion.
It's good against all of the damage from Gamer Lugin right now.
Will they think about the silencers, the thing?
It's been so off the radar for so long, except for that one game that it did terribly.
Yes.
It was definitely on the radar there.
It was on the right.
know what's also a decent hero for a similar reason? Lich? Is actually not bad.
I was thinking maybe it wouldn't be too bad. There is a dispel on Brumat as they go in.
It's not very effective against rulings and natious prophets, but for some reason like
Lich came across my mind that it could potentially be like really good. I don't know I'm telling
I'm feeling this silence are coming out
It's the it probably gonna be the only opportunity the only opportunity to actually be viable
Maybe there's gonna be a game with enigma, but I
Mean techies band-aids put it put it this way if you've called this you are just OP
And you're not allowed to do desk work anymore. You got I still get paid though. Yeah, okay
You gotta go coach. We're gonna get we're gonna let someone else have a go. All right deal
Some of them else has to try. You've just completed this stage. You like those crazy people on Geo Gessa that they just see one blade of grass. It's Paraguay.
Well, Team Cobra did pick Silent Surf twice. Off 1. 1-1. I think this is good. This is the better option because if you're using the grave on a target you can glimpse him back.
back it's an ability again very good against the brew master very good against nature's profit if
he's trying to TP out it's a vision hero against bounty hunter he's he could be very annoying
i like this i feel like or if nature's TP's in you can just glimpse him back force him to bkb
yeah feels really bad brew hate static storm obviously he does yeah a lot of the time you
can actually if you're smoking you can catch like the dazzle plus one in a static storm as well
Oh, she's back. This might be the first one. Okay. Okay, just we haven't seen it. I was thinking
whether this hero is still gonna be like a okay, but one thing I don't like is they don't really
have any way of setting things up. Usually I like any kind of combination between snapfire plus one
bounty hunter really isn't that combo nether is your position five
Yeah, your offlaner also doesn't have stun
I feel like you need to have some kind of a setup to make RC wise game much easier
And this is the hero that has been nerfed like multiple times like multiple patches in a row for a good reason
She was OP. It's a pretty good game for it against everything but the lifestealer
I agree with everything you're saying you really have to clutch it if you're RC Y and you know big num
For example, because you can do the bounty hunter stun into cookie into another bounty hunter stun with the inviz
You have to time it you have to get the cookie off from a distance that you're you can also use the snapfire ulti
You have to choose am I using the snapfire ulti or am I using the combo of just using the spells?
All right, there's a lot of choices there and you have to
Tell me dude silencer you wouldn't have to worry about any of these things
Snapfire coming out you stop the ulti
I think the disruptor is a much better option. It makes a lot of sense. Yes, also means you've got to keep working. Yeah, yeah.
He knew his disruptor. He just wanted to work. Okay. So, he got to get paid. Yeah, I do like the snap. I don't think it's as nerfed as...
I don't think it's so heavily nerfed it's unpickable. Yeah, it was getting picked at the start of the patch and still looked pretty good.
I'm not comboing it with something traditional though, I don't think the combos are that terrible actually you don't think so
You just have to clutch you you have you have to combo with Bruce done their sprout their slows
It's not the typical click stun one guy, but it's not like they have nothing right?
Yeah, it needs to be Mortimer's kisses instead of Mortimer's messes in this one because he doesn't have many ways of setting things up
Yeah, it's a shame shame Mars isn't in the matter real
Really is. I'm looking forward to see how good their safe lane duo is going to do, because this Dazzle plus an Asia's Prophet, it's a heal bomb combo that is very, very annoying for Doom to play.
He's also playing with strong position 4, but not going to be an easy trade for them in this lane. So I want to see how much 33 is going to be able to get out of this lane.
I'm happy to see speed playing something that's interesting.
I feel like he wants to play Dazzle,
and we've seen so many games where he's not getting these things that he's discovering and that he thinks his S tier, so I'm glad to see him on this.
Two interesting drafts, no doubt Nomad's going to get to the bottom of it now.
I'm here with Magus to you from Game Illegion.
Well, firstly our beloved and esteemed colleague Lacoste there on the panel,
really advocating for a silencer pick at the very end there.
It's a pin-down of his misery. Why are you even considering that?
For what? For what?
Huh? But the final pick, instead of the snapfire.
Meet Silencer?
I don't know what he was going about.
Oh wait, no, instead of the disruptor.
Oh, for them. I think they would have gotten a run over.
But I think it's going to happen anyway.
They have a really greedy lineup.
They do indeed, yeah, I mean, but you've already got two kills. Is this what you expected?
Not that fast, but yeah, we should try to apply a lot of tempo. I think we're really happy with what we've got
Good stuff, and was this kind of did everything go to plan? Did they do exactly what you expect them to in this draft?
Not at all. So you had to adapt in a good way
In a good way. All right. All right. So high confidence coming out from you. Who's gonna pop off in this game? I
Think it should be
bounty
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syndrome. Thank you. No, mad.
Yeah, two kills already. So
so far so good for gamer
Legion. I was going to say
before the draft even started,
obviously, these are cool
picks coming from gamer
Legion. We're going to see a
lot of these heroes that often
but from one wins perspective,
other than the disruptor, they
get everything that they would.
On paper want to get DK being
of all time, or at least in modern Dota, Shat, the main hero that we've been kind of associating
with him at this tournament that he's played well on, is the Lifestealer. What do you think?
I think just like what he said in the coach interview, the issue with this trio of heroes
is that I'm a little bit worried about pacing, and this has been a problem for one win in
multiple of their games, that they're running three cores that are all relatively slow and
needy before they get to do stuff. And clearly, this is a targeted strategy from
from Gamer Legion at trying to exploit that fact and just,
like he said, we're gonna run them over.
We'll see if they have the execution to back it up.
I think theoretically looking at these lineups,
I think it's actually a quite likely outcome
that the Radiant lineup gets really far ahead,
but then you need to temper it and not overplay
and not make too many mistakes.
But I do like what Gamer Legion brings to the table here.
I think we've seen way too little carry profit as well.
Still consider this hero very, very strong.
Let's see if Tamato can showcase that.
You were advocating for this at TI as well, and it was picked a decent amount of course, but not to the degree that you were hoping, Cinder.
Well, it started to become very popular a couple of days in, and in some games it just really ran the show and eventually made it onto the band table for some of the best teams.
so both Yotora and Satanic have absurd gains on it.
I think it's obviously changed a bit since then with the patch and all,
but I think profit compared to some of the other carries that got nerfed after TI
is still in a better spot than, for example, Shadowfiend, who got the axe.
Probably underestimated just how big those nerfs were.
So...
Yeah, we've still picked a couple of times in this tournament early on,
and basically not after.
Talk to me about speed playing the Dazzle.
This is a lane that a couple of teams have run, and particularly Yandex had success with it, so it's just being copied here.
The Dazzle is primarily a partner because of the profit. This makes for a very strong lane.
They both play early tempo, which is great.
The thing Dazzle doesn't like as much is if you just get into a farming game.
He doesn't farm that well sure you can push waves with shadow wave, but you would really like to leverage
You know grave and using novel projection while it really matters early on and say it right
What did what did I say a novel projection correctly novel projection? No say it again. Okay. I said it right the first time
I'm not doing it a third time. You're in I am not
Okay, get some help stop keep it up. Yep. I am doing great indeed. Um
So, yeah, and then you have Snapfarmid who's a high tempo mid hero and
Coupling it all up rounding out the draft here with oh well. I say rounding out
But it's the final here. We haven't really talked about this of the brewmaster to yep, so
There's a lot of good things to be said about this
I also love the pairing of bounty hunter profit bounty hunter scouts targets and
Profit can connect globally. So whatever opportunity you find you can make that work. That said one wins draft
They want the game to be slow. If they get to farm, if they get to late game, I favor them heavily.
So this is a pretty polarizing game. A lot of the games we see is like, anybody can win at 60 minutes.
In this one, realistically, the radiant lineup is not going to fare that well.
But they're 2k up at 3 minutes, so, you know, who cares about late game?
I mean, anytime you're going against one win, you're probably not going to take a late game anyway.
Anyway, that seems to be what they target based on these traps on a consistent basis, but then I get there's the question.
33 on the doom, so his best hero arguably, he'll find this farm one way or another.
And the speed with that...
The thing with Dazzle is he provides so much pressure early on, like look how often they're next to their tier one tower with the shadow wave.
He can do this in a poison-touch combo.
He can do this particularly because of the trance.
Yeah, exactly.
It's just these are not really killable for Willow Doom, so...
He's just gonna keep shoving them, shoving these trance at the opposing team,
and if they try to fight back, they're gonna use Shadow Leap.
So, yeah.
This is a very, very good lane, and oh, got the damage on the Doom there.
I'm gonna help out mid a bit with BZM, taking the brunt of that now.
And it's a brief fire, so sure it can knock quite enough.
and he's popped a stick to try to stay left, the dragon fell under the tower, the brief fire as well, the bignum does die
So BZN gets a nice kill out of it
Oh, he messed it up didn't he? He had a fairy fire, he had shuriken ready again
I think... I think bignum could have had that
That's obviously big for BZN, I mean it's not like it's a waste of rotation
You're sending the dragonite back to base still, but I feel like that was a kill he was supposed to get in that situation
situation and if you really want it I actually never mind you don't have
teleportation on profit yet so a little free
good not a profit in 33 yeah he is
big them shows up gonna get the stun and the kill and Ari also sticking around
a little bit too long maybe shadow realm I get to the high ground as well bounty
is easily gonna catch up with the movespeed of shadow
but to no avail as speed it's not a killing spree three and oh that's not
the big number of Thunderbolt. That's what it's called the attempts to get out
but the Clint's back in. They might be able to get two out of this big number.
Breathe fire does finish the job as speed. So next on the list so the killin screen
coming out which is a lot of gold coming up for up I was gonna say 33 but it is
white mon. Yeah this is a one-minute sequence though where one win didn't
hit a creep so true all three lanes were still occupied for the side of gamer
Legion so they were building more of an advantage there that means Tamato is now
level five to the level three of doom and he can transfer this pressure to other
lanes this is kind of one of the nice things about winning your safe land
on profit is you choose which other lane you want to win most of the time the
teleportation plate DK is not safe nor is the life stealer but they are going to
Open up on Tamato, it's the three of them, he's trying to fight back alone.
He had any backup now, this sure would be great.
It's very dead.
Nobody has a TP on the ceiling, well they're killing DK mid, so nothing comes for free.
Right.
For one win.
A lot of pressure now on this tier one, the siege is staying alive,
fortification to try to delay this.
Another 15 seconds for DZM to get back into the fray,
it looks like they'll have to sack that catapult in the end.
With the disruptor another hero we don't get to see all too often, Auri, to take the pressure from Bigno, TP potentially from the natures prophet might not even be able to poison touch there, Tamato does show up with the sprout, we'll get the kill.
BZM though, in that dragon form, would love to get this kill on Tamato.
Bring a lot of damage as the 33 just sitting in there to try to take the wisdom trine, will burn up speed, Tamato looks to be dead as well.
So, Gamer Legion, this is not what you signed up for. That turns into a double kill for BZM. He's like, thank you.
Yep, this is what is really, really important when you're playing this early temple line. It's to not make these mistakes.
And that's not a good way to do it.
So, taking heavy damage is RCY. Cursed Crown connects. Shadow Rump also gonna connect.
Not enough.
Poison Touch though, from Speed. Well, slow White Monde down. Not enough for a kill. BZM's still in the dragon form.
might be able to finish off RCY with a TP on the way,
we've fired not enough to secure the kill for himself.
That's easy, yeah.
Time to run out.
Fagging form ending here very shortly.
Make Lens bounty back to base, that's annoying for him.
RCY, he has not leveled, oh he did level Mortimer's.
See him use that first time.
Fader's level seven against Shad, level five by the way.
He's gonna run him down.
And crew master form here.
All right, well, yeah.
Do you know this final split?
Carsey White kills up Whitemon in the meantime.
Kimono shows up with the Sprout to finish the job.
So yeah, that is shocking.
Level five.
Not great.
His speed gonna feed his life away.
So a lot of action early on.
Yeah, it's what the Radiant wants.
They just need to be on the winning side of things,
but they are looking for the action.
This lights up the lane has gone horribly wrong
for the side of one win.
And now we're gonna lose the tower as well.
3K lead re-achieved for the Radiant.
This is the second time they have this lead in eight minutes.
Last time they lost it at the enemy wisdom shrine,
probably won't be making that mistake again.
Well, they can't for the next five minutes.
And now what do we have coming the way of one win?
So, Doom is level six.
That opens up for potential play down here.
There supports only level four.
Oh, Shad.
That's the rage away,
but even just taking him away from this farm is a big deal.
And we've seen fate in this matchup before,
rushing that orchid but last time he was not having this big of an advantage so
this should be even easier than normal. Yeah, true. Lifestealer's gonna have a
rough time. That's 33, looking for the first two of the game. We have to secure this kill
without it though. Nicely done from one win.
I mean the orchid's gonna force out the manta from the lifestealer.
Yeah, she might have gone anyway, but
Okay
Mortimer's kisses with the stun to help out from big enough and now BZM back in human form trying to get out
But Cherieken with the poison touch will eventually run down to DK
Speed has been all over the place five kills already in this game
Yeah together with the bounty hunter of big numb you heard in the coach interview said that bounty hunter was gonna pop off so far
So good for big numb
If he had only gotten that solo kill mid on DK earlier in the game, imagine how good his game would have been. This is still good enough.
Why do you think, not to get back down to chat,
the Dazzle,
obviously the lane with nature's profit very good, but why are we not seeing him at all other than that?
Just doesn't offer enough. I mean he has some clear limitations, right? The hero gets significantly weaker once dispelled start coming out.
A lot of hero matchups are not that good for him.
I think his ulti, frankly, is not very good.
But not so protective?
I think he would be better if he had one of his older ultis.
He'd be from Yvonne, tough to thunder strike.
Thinking about doing that would help.
Nice dodge on the glimpse with the illusion rune that might actually give him a kill here.
Archie, why beautiful stuff.
Yvonne, round nature.
He's taken out by Tamato's ult in the meantime.
That was beautiful.
always a long-seeing glimpse dog is with stuff like that
he has land, he's gotta fight the thunder clap
I'm gonna split the follow tomorrow
it's off the sprout, BZM eats through it
it's lifted in the air and now speed is here as well
so another great use of the heal
BZM will tick out eventually
they can work for us though
he gets stuck inside the trees and now no longer in the primal split form
Oh, that's a fast brewmaster.
He is.
Brewmaster.
He's got Thunderclap.
Fast master.
He's got a tier two now, so extra armor to work with Thunderclap
in the house, though.
There's a level four.
And now they're chipping in.
Yeah, he glimpsed back.
Why not before your teammate dies?
Just feels better this way somehow.
It's like a pinata.
You get to pop it at the end.
Well, for you.
All the buddies.
Are you sure about that?
I'm not.
Fade, he's out.
Oh, my god.
This feels so awful.
Whitemon, glimpse in four seconds if they could get a little glimmer here.
He's, I think he's out.
He's too fast.
Oh, this juke could...
Okay.
She is working out.
Working great.
My god, okay, that is such a huge win.
5k lead now.
Solo kills DK, has three heroes chasing him, including one TP from the Doom, and they get nothing out of it, one win.
That is a total travesty.
I think my wife on the brink not
That's gonna be the death. I'll likely hit off the bounty might be a trade those 33 heavy damage from our CY
It's a lot of they're all over the place. Yeah, but to the one versus three
But the terrorizing the DK on the high ground as well
That's doing good damage and now the dragon cell is a cure to kill at the RC Y
Here comes room after
I think that as well, but yeah, Fade shows up and just beat me absolutely shit.
How many crits did he get in a row there?
Double kill for the Brewmaster.
I think he got three crits, four crits maybe?
I think he got three crits in a row, no.
That's insane.
Bet Gorgas slamming his table on him.
Wow, okay.
Well, in the fight before that one, since this was very extended,
we did get to see another classic combination we haven't really talked about as much,
which of course, Dazzle Brewmaster.
This used to be something teams would run 10 years ago,
taking advantage of the Shadow Wave onto the Brumash to split,
because it's a guaranteed way of trailing down enemy heroes
and getting that damage benefit.
So similar to the Trance, just a way better version,
because it's obviously so much faster and a way stronger unit.
Man.
Is it starting to look very good for Gamer Legion, gotta say.
And my biggest concern in all of this for one one is,
Well, Shad gets to play the game at all.
Yeah, he's had a rough one.
It's really, really a bad starter.
It's the brew. Let's watch the crit.
It's a good stun, guys.
One, two, three.
That's three in a row.
And then the fourth was a crit, too.
So four out of five?
What's the crit chance with that?
You tell me, Mr. Analyst.
Twenty percent?
I was about to say buy a lottery ticket, but don't.
You spent it already.
Yeah, that is do the calculations. What's the percent chance of that that I'm hitting three in a row if it's if it's true random
That's like one in 125 and what about four out of five?
Oh, that's that's chat you I need to do by normal distribution. I can't do that in my head. Yeah
That's why chat you could use bill. Yeah, well, you you have it. So you don't have it on your phone
You don't check your weather. Why do you have?
Actually, yeah, why have a phone if you don't use a I for everything a good question. No, I said weather as well
Yeah, you have an air weather app.
This is the weather you wish you were having today.
Oh man, he's having a rough one.
One in four start for the life stealer.
At the very least, he probably checks the weather before he leaves the hotel though.
Oh, he should check his replays instead, I think.
That's pretty savage.
Not much you can do at this stage, he's the Orchid though.
No, I mean he's out of the game.
And this means that the responsibility of solving this at this point falls on other heroes.
Lifestealer is a non-factor completely for the next 10 minutes.
So realistically you can only really play around the Dragon Knight at this point.
Gotta get something going with BZM.
See if they can find it.
with me owner will farm away oh not again not again stunned up still silenced and
dead oh boy yeah he is now a support hero I mean where do you go give me your
best suggestion here I will say 33 is he's quite greedy and he will not give
up space historically yeah the blame hat okay that's that's a positive outlook
yeah for sure 8k lead for gamer legion looking very good right now are they
heading up there remember that tomato game with gyro this is a
Mishat shows himself mid, tracked up, still does not have Sacred Relic at 16 and a half minutes.
They're baiting him. This is the next level play.
He gets double stun and killed already!
He didn't have to use anything, the static storm only onto one.
And they're not even gonna get the kill.
Yeah, baiting this stand in and then blaming him for dying
Well, the one-win special. I mean honestly, I really like the idea of doing this
It's like when your carry isn't this poor and the enemy keeps hunting him set up a trap
But then they didn't really spring the trap on 233. They're just bleeding out here
This is hey, I'll be honest one win have been very inconsistent since just before ti
This is maybe the worst game. I've seen them play. I think the game against Yandex from
Last night might have something to say about that, but it's not great. It's definitely in the lower
Lower 5% of their games. I think that's fair that you can choose several games
Yeah
That's a bit worrying about this is that you also got your best first pick of the tournament, right?
You got the DK. This is uh has been there in some of their tougher games
BGM's DK is gonna crutch that they could lean on and
It's not gonna cut it
We cannot hold shit right now. We need at least to get that at least to get the DK shard
Yep agree with that. Yeah, he has it now. Okay, so what
3, 4, 2, 9, DK, Shard, Exxon, 33, is begging for it.
33 dead again.
And Ari, the last quick sub-mortar, the cookie rather.
He has the shard already on RCY, will burn up Ari.
You ever notice that one win kind of have gone downhill
in terms of their gameplay since they got the Rolexes?
Is that...
Would you say that that's an accurate statement?
Ah, yes, the cursed clock.
something there. Maybe it gets to your head. You're wearing this very expensive jewelry.
You think that the average pro player can tell time if it's analog?
The thought that there's a pro player right now that cannot read a watch is so funny to me.
You don't think that there's no way. You don't think there's a single player? I refuse to believe
that's true. So I'm going to disagree with that. Okay, so you know, I understand there's a lot of
digital displays nowadays, but there's still like when you go to the train station or whatever,
there's a clock hanging somewhere that you're seeing. Yeah, they're telling you.
It's just like some, there's some archaic technology for many a year.
There's no, there is no. Okay, so I'm just going to say this. I think anybody that's 20 and over
should be able to, I do think that there's a teenager that is a pro player.
Cannot read a clock correct. I genuinely believe this God. This will be the best
constant piece
Challenges for them in these you know during the rehearsals
You a little clock challenge
What time is it?
Start easy
Oh, we're getting old aren't we?
They're gonna have to start checking chat gpt to see what the time is. Yeah, that's when things get real bad and take a picture of the clock
He's already used dragon tail on a creep. He's dead. He will die. He does have fireball now. Yeah, that's good
He can drop one behind us. We're good. Leave a crater
GamerLegion just putting one win in their place.
Oh my, another kill for Fade incoming. He just needs to see somebody up here.
Blink or Kit, he is absolutely smashing this game. Yeah, Auri's dead here if you see him.
Couldn't see him though, just barely out of vision I think.
But Fade is patient. He's waiting.
He can give some vision now too. Bignum sees our air.
I'll stop the shadow round with the Terrorize as well.
Dazzle's doing a good amount of damage, but the Grave comes out to save him with the
Clawclawclawclawclawclawclawclaw!
As Ari will fall and take them back to full HP.
Alright.
Yeah.
When Dazzle has this good of a start, he can look like a monster with his Holy Locket,
plus level 4 Shadow Wave and Grave.
I mean, what do you do?
Honestly, what do you do, I start it.
Well, everywhere you go.
Because Haroki has entered the building?
Nope.
Nope?
33 did infect RCY with a pause though.
Okay.
So, all is well.
Got any scouting again?
Dragon Tail.
We'll blink out.
They used a static storm and retreats, Bade.
Huh?
Get close back.
White Mon is so slow.
Could just kill him with a teleportation, but...
I don't know, 30.
How greedy can you be?
The fact that they did not see him.
He probably needs that fireball.
Yeah, that's the soul ring.
That's the soul ring so you can use it quite a lot.
Chad is about to finish in a 21 minute radiance.
Might be the slowest of the tournament of lifestealers.
Wait, it's 21 minutes?
Yeah, he has the gold, he just needs the courier to get to the ancients.
Watch his courier get killed, triangle rather.
Yeah, that's right.
Then it's not even finished, technically.
Hmm.
Man, one-win looking at her sure is broken, huh?
That's good stuff.
Can't give that hero away, unlike every other series where it's just suddenly ignored.
Smoke from one-win.
Seeming a bit desperate at this point just hoping that brewmaster wants to hit the top way so they can do a man
But he's in the opposite side of the map looking for
Shad his courier wait his courier did die. Oh
My god
Oh, yeah killed the courier. Oh
You got to commend the mental fortitude to not just tilt out at this game. Yeah, you're the stand-in though
That would look really bad if you did that.
Sure would.
As the rest of one win, look at their Rolexes to see what time it is.
Realize they can't read it. Continue to play Dota.
And there's torment time for the Rating if they want it.
You can kill it pretty fast between Dazzle and all these summoned units, but...
Not going to because they give up map control.
So in essence, it's a great objective.
just hiding down there in the corner hoping somebody randomly wins a fight
there so they can get some action otherwise the little chained cube will
three spotted let's go for the blink teepees fine
we can finish the alpha wolf there
okay agonim scepter looks to be next when do they roast oh gotta say I like
I think it's a hero we should be seeing a bit more.
It's refreshing, honestly, to look at this radiant line.
A mid-snapfire carry profit, playing early tempo with a bounty runner scouting and everything.
It's nice. It's a real feels good lineup to play when you win early,
and that's exactly what they've been doing. Another kill for Fade here.
Goodbye.
To the soul burn.
And the Roche.
Tomato will be healed to full by speed.
More or less there with the shallow grave and lock.
Good news, couriers up for Shad.
23 and a half minute radiance has been completed.
Oh, they're onto 33.
They are, Orcadona.
Thunder claps so close yet so far.
45 seconds on the dip.
ages for tomato
But all gamer legion from the very get-goes a double kill to start the game for speed like the drum a lot on dazzle, too
This is again
It's just playing into the same idea of we are rolling and we want to play tempo
So after the lock if he just goes for a drum to even further boost up his team BZM narrowly
Threading the needle there but drops a fireball
And he's gonna blink up to bounty hunter
he is dead and
We'll get double stun into the track, pops the BKB though, I think it's close, it's on spot.
Free fire.
Strong spell, I thought they had him for sure, missed the last 5%.
Deeded 4 crits in a row there.
Yep, get it together, Faye.
Blink Dag are almost there for speed.
I wouldn't mind seeing him buy even more ore items like a Vlad's or Greaves, I think that would be completely fine too.
What's the flink obviously have insane reach for the save?
It's another good option.
What do you think one win are waiting for?
Like what's the hope here?
Game or Legion mess up on high ground or?
No, that's a good question.
We're waiting for their Rolexes to be transformed into digital and then and then gg'ing out
Oh
So they're holding on to hope that they can gg out
Like they're not allowed to because they can't tell what time is this makes a lot of sense actually yeah
Yeah, it's strong lore. Okay. I would agree. Yeah big num
Might find another pick here scan is successful for
Oh, they haven't noticed yet, oh he's so low.
Off the dust!
Here comes Prophet, surely.
Connected field into the attempted TP, the globs are enough though.
Mortimer belches all over him.
And Shad, let's get the rage off this time.
Now has Armlet.
Gamer Legion, two minutes on the Aegis.
Oh, they're gonna get a good backstab down the bottom.
That could be a super bad.
Another BKB TT again, no?
Oh, alright, two in a row.
That was very close.
Very nice.
Tomorrow, under the cover of Silver Edge.
What are one win?
Looking at the items here, are they close to anything?
BKB kinda close for 33.
Just mention the armlet being finished for the life stealer will be the man to after that
Then you know that's where that's it. Nothing else
Boom, I'm gonna die here
It's just you can't farm and not die in this game. It's not possible. Yeah
It's a complete chokehold of the map with bounty hunter these bounty doesn't lose these games like ever
Ever I mean look you have all three lanes shoved in and you have a guy whose only job is to find heroes first teammates to kill
Another grave for Fade. He's going to build up nicely here. Phil has that primal split of torus.
Chat trying to...
...close some sort of a threat.
I'm hitting like a wet noodle right now.
Mato's going to get some...
...good old mana, and probably will try to be pushing with this Aegis expiring in this next minute, I would assume.
Maybe they just play it super safe like that might be the case
So anyway, what time is it actually
Where's karaoke
Where they want he can he can read the analog clocks. Oh, yeah, he can for sure we need him
And OG, double wisdom, this is going to be big numbs level 15 and he has the shard, never
mind he gave it to Fade, so now Fade is 18 and he will strip get his key from the other
one now.
Yep, goodbye, Mr. Wython, nice knowing you, 30 seconds, I mean the death timers aren't
too bad.
Such low level, level 9.
And Bignum is drawing a nice big circle up top with an arrow pointing toward it saying,
hey, I'm gonna go here and if they're here we fight and if they're not here they're all bottom.
Detective Bignum on the case, in the water.
33 finally gets that DKB.
Take tower spike for one win.
Can't even say with a straight face.
Well I said it with a straight face. I can't even keep a straight face.
Alright smoke up.
It's time. They've checked their Rolexes.
This is their final fight of the game unless it goes really well somehow.
I always take the possibility with Doom.
The problem is, you Doom, through Master, he gets saved by good old Dazzle.
Well, he's going to get some vision now with the track.
Dazzle can only buy him a couple of seconds, he can't heal anymore, so...
That's true.
If they have enough damage piling on, they would go in.
Mortimer is coming. Stats are only onto one, but it is a very pesty one.
to the 400 bounding hunter, Bokkoppel projectiles, with the grave and he's back to basically full HP,
they do get the doom onto the brew, no grave to come now. So a good kill for one win,
as RCY is going to pop his BKB and just get the hell out. Looks like Big Num is going to
likely get killed if they have the vision outside the kinetic field though.
They need to get more than this. What was a good kill? Oh, he used to ner and he actually showed
It was, but I don't think they're going to get on top of him yet.
Looks like he's fine.
Tamato never tipied into that fight.
So it was a 4v5 with Bounty getting jumped and being saved and then the doom onto the
broom asses.
That was about as good as that was ever going to get for the dire and they get a kill for
the Troubles.
It's a pretty decent kill though, it's worth a lot of gold, 33 got the killing blow on that,
it was a monster kill streak.
It goes 8-0-9.
So this is going to help 33 progress toward what I'm assuming is going to be a Shiva's next.
Unless he wants to go straight aggs and just try to run on top of Dazzle plus one.
Oh, I have Tormentor.
Tormentime!
To the Dazzle or Nature's Prophet.
Will be the Prophet, so he's going to get the old growth.
even harder to hide from him
actually pretty good shard
for a game like this
constantly trying to stay out of line of sight
because of the old growth is never bad it's a decent one
of the
Now, it's a bit of a later rush, so two minutes away.
Likely not going to see much movement from Gamer Legion until then, other than the potential
pick-off into a push, but...
the Agnus Scepter finished her fade and he's a hyperstone into his AC to come.
And RCY, what is he working on? Looks like Shiva's, so he's gonna get that AoE increase
on the globs. Alright, EZM gets level 20 and an OctoRing Core, so his hero just got twice as good.
Now Breathe Fire does 540 damage on a very low cooldown.
the 20 talent is really good it's a it's a big part of why this mid DK with this
build even works
smoke from both sides obviously don't know that Roche is not up quite yet some
seven second cooldown brief fire 540 damage 32% damage reduction pretty sick
Spell.
No, Shad has a Mantah.
There's a Dragonfell initiation onto the Bounty Munner.
Fade comes in with the Primal Click and a focus on the White Monk starts to get down.
Already the BK is broken at the Silver Edge and destroying it through the BKB as well.
Oh.
And the fight's already over for one win.
Yep, they went out of their base as a split unit.
I don't know if that makes any sense, but they were split.
And so was Fade.
That's right, he's about to stop being split.
Great movie by the way. Split, try it.
Great acting performance by... I don't remember his name.
Well, you're really not a fake fan. Fake movie fan.
33, about to get scouted here by Big Numb.
He's on his tail and he will be stopping his TP.
That's a great Narubian assassin once said.
32k lead for Gamer Legion.
And there's going to spot Roche, he'll be up in 3 seconds.
Data list for Tomato.
We are approaching unloosable territory here.
We're trying to make it as safe as possible.
Are they close to any items?
For which they need to wait.
The brew, a thousand from Sheeva's, or AC rather.
Brown is pretty close to hex.
Daedalus recently finished a lot of things.
I mean, the thing is they're going to be close to an item the whole time, right?
They're so far ahead and they're farming everything, so there's always the next thing to get.
The question is at what point do you want to get lunch?
That's what they need to decide.
How hungry are you?
A bit of a late lunch, though.
Yeah.
Right on.
The static stormed out.
It's just got a knock to the field, though.
Now places it
I also guarantee you kill if you pop DKB
Now it's Rake onto DK again, just melting past the DKB and just flies away
They burn a static storm, they burn a DKB and guess what was expended from Gamer Legion
Nothing!
Bay jumps over the final split and getting some good building damage, Shad
Not gonna be able to do too much about it
If you pump the fortification, here we eat up the storm panda.
That's gonna last fortification for a while, unless his melee rack is taken.
Shad does kill off the Roche banner, now stuck inside the...
He actually jumps inside a creep, only he had the shard if you do an extra 50 damage to a hero when popping out.
Oh, so Rampant's a DK, I always catch this, and burning into a crest, down goes BZM again.
This is Tabato, forcing 33 back, he pops in, BKB will live as a result, he's going to get gone on, but Tabato still living through it and has that second life as well.
This is going to be buildings.
This is the second set of barracks. No fortification anytime soon, so no reason to stop now.
Okay, over, under, 36, 45.
36 what?
time over. We got a really specific over-unders for this.
There's the Doom, 33, gets it off and sheds, attempting to right click through. Not going
to happen though. Not going to have to go up these mega creeps. GG's call.
Under it is.
Wait, the game hasn't quite ended yet. It doesn't matter.
3, 4, 5, and I- OH SHIT! WHAT THE HELL? COME ON!
You lose on both accounts.
We round up here.
No we don't. Damn, we do not.
Alright, an absolute stomp for Gamer Legion. I don't want to hear Cinder anymore, so let's go to Richard.
Richard! Richard!
Alright, well, listen, there's not much interesting to say, except it was Gamer Legion that dispensed the stomp.
stomp maybe you were thinking it would be one win it wasn't uh i mean there's
lots to talk about let's start with the positives
actually because we usually mean um we're gonna be mean in this segment
to prepare everyone i'm good yeah uh 1w if we're looking for positives for one
dub in this one they had a pretty good shrine fight which is happening right
now on the screen and i think this has been the highlight
for them because i think this was good this was good this is what's supposed to
happen but they just completely rend them. This one kill that BZM got in the mid lane
when Bounty Hunter ran at him, pretty much got solo XP, solo gold. So that's also the
second good thing and I'm not sure if we're going to be able to find anything else.
Lots of positives on K-League. Yeah, yeah, that's all. Take the easy one. Fade what an incredible
performance from him. I didn't even know that Brewmaster was capable of doing this much work
In the laning stage, he was out cssing Chad.
I remember watching and the camera just kind of casually pan back to these two
laning up there, and under the tower, he gets a deny on a catapult, and then on a melee creep,
and then on a range creep. One V1 under the tower, and it's like,
you're just getting mocked at that point, right? You're just getting diffed, and it happens?
Getting diffed? Like an off lane to carry diff?
You're just getting lame dip.
The thing is, bro, I used to play against Fade all the time.
This dude has been an NA Dota player for as long as I can remember.
He's always been really good at laning.
He is, if you give him one of his heroes, if you give him a little bit of net worth,
like he's good at the little fundamental things, pulling creep aggro, going for CS at the last possible second, stuff like that.
And straight up, he displayed that here.
I don't think this is a matchup that's supposed to be favored for Brewmaster.
He was first pick, bro. Second, second, second. It was a really, really early pick for Ruebaster.
There's a whole draft to counter him, and he just did so much work.
It was a bit of a slower lineup, and they also slowed it down with not having the great laning stage on a lifestealer.
His courier dying, so his radiance even gets delayed even more.
But, yeah, Doom, Lifestealer, Dragonite, these heroes tend to be slightly slower, especially if they start off by killing Double Kill to Dazzle, who then has, like, basically, you have a free item, but fade.
Like, this is the new build that we talked about when we saw the Brewmaster pick, picking up the Orchid, picking up Blink Dagger immediately after.
Of course, Agatham Scepter being your core item on the hero, because it just amplifies the damage, makes the Brewling so much stronger.
but this Orchid build is insane what it does.
Again, it gives you a secondary way of playing the hero
because in your normal mode, you're not really not doing that much,
but he was doing so much like you saw when he gets brewed up,
when he gets those crits up as well in the fire stance.
It's just a little too much in this type of a game,
and I've been very impressed by Speed,
the way that he was able to get these...
We talked about that the damage is a little bit slow on side of 1W,
And so it gave him quite a lot of time to cast those graves.
Yeah, it looked very good.
It was really good for him.
He was also they did some like shared micro control with the trance, which I've seen in one of his videos ages ago.
He talked about this with the Beastmaster boar.
And if you have a Carrie Beastmaster, they can use the boar with the support.
And basically they did the same thing with the trees.
It makes a lot of sense on Basil because you want to surround the trees and then he'll bomb in tomorrow.
I was just sitting there, bro.
This guy has the freest game ever.
He literally doesn't have to micro treants
on nature's profit.
Name an easier carry to play.
You've got Dazzle 1B2ing off on the side with the trees.
What a nice game.
Yeah, let's take a look at some of it.
12 minutes in, I think you wanted
to highlight something, Andrew, if you recall.
Absolutely.
I definitely recall you need to see this on the screen here.
Oh, yes, this was beautiful from Fade.
The moment that I saw this, I knew.
I don't care if one win ends up winning the game,
Fades getting MVP, the way that he was dodging and using the tree lines here to avoid Whitemon, who Glimpse is coming off cooldown, and then he does this little loop-de-loop around, up the high ground.
Faded away. They could not find him.
It's like the guy's map hacking.
And the funniest thing is he comes back into this fight, like which happens immediately after, because he'd be back and look at those juicy crits that he's landing.
just crit after crit after crit this is enemy carry we're talking about this is
even prior to Orchid and of course getting tipped by his teammates and what
he just did and especially that's illegal that's not allowed actually yeah
I think he's not like a bracer phase boots yeah nothing oblivion staff but
it's not what you would expect in terms of wow this guy's dealing this much
damage he got got some lucky crits I think also just generally his net worth
was higher because he was out laning in the off lane that definitely helps just having higher net worth
yeah and the comparison you wanted to drop yeah i wanted to show the timing that they did have
playing with the bounty hunter uh this is 14 minutes into the game where they are kind of
fight ready dazzle starting with two kills early on kill participation 80 percent hero damage yes
it's it's an insane how much hero damage this uh guide deals thanks to those three ins that he is
microing and if you look at the items Orcid is ready 14 minutes in on a brewmaster this is anti lifestealer item
You surprise him from distance from the fog
He can't get the rage off and on the other side you have holy lock it on the life on nursery on dazzle who does
Have insane amount of he like we saw heroes getting raved and then they go back to full HP
Unless you are willing to potentially doom the bounty hunter, which I think they did one time because they just wanted to get some kind
of a kill. And then he graved himself, which I think is awesome.
Yes, it's one of those Dazzle players. They love to grade themselves. And this one, Speed,
also I'd say another MVP with itemization, Holy Locket plus the heals coming out. It's
too much as long as the Doom is on cooldown, knowing that it is a slightly longer cooldown.
They can play with no cooldown whatsoever. And for other teams, I wouldn't necessarily
like that they steal the nature's Dazzle, but for Speed, I know he wants to play the
And Richard this is something we have been begging for yeah the whole tournament
Please let's speed play the heroes. He wants to play this guy has a good mind for it. Yeah, absolutely
So thanks for that guys. We're gonna take a break. It turns out it's one win with one foot in the grave
We'll see if that changes in a moment
Giving you the mystery duck
First anything pure demonstrate that I don't know
friends
Like a night
If the issues
Yes, sir.
Give it a five.
Give it a three.
Why don't you give it a three?
Actually, teams are creative.
I don't know where these ideas are coming from.
The game was more creative back then than it is now.
People are just better now, so bad ideas get punished before very people people could do really bad ideas and you know get away with it because of personal skill or
execution or
This others got confused, but now if your idea is just bad just get punished really fast
Yeah, people are pretty creative
Right for a moderate five because I mean I don't know really what the game was like back in the day
But I can see right now. I think there are like
It's kind of hard to say not creative, because sometimes people are creative, but I think
sometimes there is a lot of different things you can do and people just decide to follow
whatever the best team is doing or whatever the favourite player is doing, they just follow
the trend.
It's a hard one.
Go with a 7.
And for a 9.
9.
You really dislike the deathmatch.
They could be very boring, it just makes everyone's build the same, makes every leaky and build the same.
It was pretty boring, I cannot give you that, but I don't like that it stops refreshing other items.
That was pretty fun, it was pretty...
In WKB it was boring, and if you are rushing it at the time it's boring,
but using refreshing different items was a pretty good display of skill, like double blink or like, you know.
Yeah.
Okay, yeah.
Double hexes, like, that was pretty fun.
I guess I can agree with that.
It's kind of sad that it's gone, but I guess the double BQB was...
Yeah, it was, it's time to go.
Yeah.
You went for a full disagree.
I mean, yeah, it wasn't a zero, sorry.
There's a zero.
I'm going for a zero.
Okay.
It's just a cope, you know.
It's like, you're losing and you feel bad, so you're like, yeah, guys, we are learning more.
It's good to win.
And it's not the end of the world to lose some scrims.
And if you win too much, it can be bad.
If you win too many scrims, then maybe it's good to get the reality check every once in a while.
This is why I gave it a three, because I think sometimes you win too much, people get complacent,
they don't want to be placed back, they think, oh, it's so good.
Don't need to keep working that much.
You need to lose sometimes to keep you in your place and keep watching the games and keep learning
But that's that is generally speaking
Generally speaking, it's like a cop like it's better to win and just be confident believe in us in the cell
So, yeah.
So, it's a...
Four.
Same number.
Nice.
Yeah, obviously we had some breaks, and they're also on your patch, and we had a stand-in,
but we only had like two days of practice with.
So, I wouldn't say we are extremely prepared, but we all end the bell break in an appropriate
time to get some pumps in and prepare for this tournament, so we are taking it seriously.
Some are in the middle, I guess.
I agree with these things and also we've got the same, the team is completely the same
other than the standard, so we still got the same kind of system and understanding of
each other and the tournament can kind of continue from the previous year
whereas other teams will have to kind of start from scratch so this gives us some
level of preparation.
Zero. I don't know, I don't feel like I would survive until the end. Maybe I'll do okay but
But till the end, I don't know.
Yeah, I mean, I guess you need like a balance of like fitness and intelligence.
I feel like I've got some balance, and not everyone on the team has such a balance, so...
Yeah, that's good.
So I think there's a decent chance. Maybe Mjolnum, I feel like us two have the best chance.
Moon?
Yeah, why not?
The Moon would sell us out immediately.
Why would he not have a good chance?
What?
You'd have a good chance, I think, compared to the others.
Maybe. Like, you'll maybe, but he's not here.
Doesn't count.
All right, not every day we get compliments thrown around in Dota 2,
so shout out to PoserMetal in the Twitch chat who said about Jenkins
that he's looking lovely today and I conquer.
I think he's looking like a little cutie pie, you know, thank you to the class for going on a smurf and writing that I really appreciate
Yeah, that's now with compliments out the way something
I wanted to ask as we get into the draft and I don't know if it was true
But it felt like it might be we talked about how game religion want to get revenge on one wing right because they were eliminated from
A tournament and this is their opportunity to eliminate them from a tournament and it's all good and you heard speed
I think it was there at the end. He said a naughty word when they won that game
So did they target Shad because it felt like they did a little bit there, you know sniping the courier
Smoking ganking him they ganked him immediately after they ganked him again back to back kills. You want to take this one like awesome
Yeah, I'll take this one for sure because I am looking at the carry bands that the
Gamer legion did in game number one and you know what I can't find any so it seems like they think he is not an issue
His hero pool is not a problem and there are other ways that they need to play around because
if you're talking about
Some of the like timings that they did have potentially in that game some of the timings in the previous series it always feels like
His network is slightly lower compared to other carries as well in the tournament where
It's missed by good like a minute sometimes even more depending on the game depending on the matchup that he's having
So he will definitely need to step it up in this one if you could go into game religions brains
And just suck out the neurons and get the answer. I guarantee you it had nothing to do with Shad
It's just you have a carry in a destitute situation
That keeps dying that keeps getting solo killed that keeps getting his career killed if you
Have somebody in this situation. You're just gonna keep them down, right? Because like you're this is it's free net worth
It's free entry into the mid to late game
You're just taking advantage of a place that you're applying pressure and you keep applying more of it in it
Things are going better for you. It's they're gonna keep doing it, right? It's a it's a pavlov dog type situation
I don't think they're thinking about shot at all, but we also strongly suspect that you know being the stand-in
It's never nice as an extra kind of little pressure that comes with it
We heard the voice comes from one win as well where it was like we can't I believe the quote was we can't hold shit until we get
Decade shot. Yeah, they're talking about defending towers. Yeah, I get it there
But to me hearing that the mindset already is a losing mindset
But obviously 33 is always gonna have this in his mind of like how can we hold the game out and play for the late game?
But you never want to be in that situation where you're like a we need DK shard
Otherwise, we can't hold towers, but I mean it is a good call
It's like guys don't like go overboard trying to defend without DK shard
We can't do it, but even still they were getting picked off her on the map
Sometimes you need to make a call make sure that there's one item because like you're bleeding out too much
so you at least need to have something and
One W getting inspired by what happened in that game number one picking up brewmaster for themselves a hero
That we don't see being flexed at all. This is just too valuable of a hero right now
He's been right is insane and the OD as well. We saw
OD in the previous series, twice in a row, it didn't look too good, but RCY being the higher caliber player on the team as well.
I feel like his OD performances have been really good.
And I think you were the one who pointed out on day three or day four that he was building a bit of a different items.
He didn't go for Meteor Hammer, instead opted to go for Yasha Kaia build into Blink Tagger.
Yeah, which is always what he has done.
RC Y for as long as I've known the guy has been an OD player. He's one of these scumbags in your pubs
And so even though the meteor hammer build was becoming popularized. He just stuck to what he was
used to doing and I
Feel like that's what happened and it's working for him so far and it probably is just the superior build at this point
You're playing like more of a carry and when you're a young guy who's really good at laning
who's really good at outskilling, getting those kills early, applying pressure, you don't necessarily
need the Meteor Hammer, and then you can scale to 1v5 and be more of that carry. So I think if
you're skilled, this is a better way of playing it. If you maybe aren't so good at laning, or you
aren't so good at getting those kills early to mid game, then yeah, you maybe need the hammer.
I also don't have the numbers to hand, but it sort of felt as well that later in the game,
You know you're getting rid of the hammer anyway and yeah a lot of people are selling it to try and beef up the damage
Yeah, it's it's an early game item that gives you what you lack
It gives you wave clear it gives you tower damage
You're a very good to Roche taking heroes
Well something to have in the back of your mind that this hero just cleans Rochon basically in 15 seconds and right now
1w they are
Removing some of the more annoying heroes Murano, of course gonna be one of them the combination throughout the game post BKB
They even talked about in an interview about
Refresher because it doesn't refresh items. It's been like that for a while
But my point is in these longer drawn-out fights everybody being so tanky this combination still
Plays out really really well because you only have like
Seven seconds to be able to get stuff done during your BKB and if you don't do it later on you can easily get kited
Yeah, ironically
The BKB change like we've seen white mon even arrowing at the end of BKB
Yes, and then because it's such a long duration it
Is still stunning afterwards, right? So the BKB changes and not refreshing has really helped the late game for Marana
I'm trying to think if you're gamer Legion and you just popped off with brewmaster
There's a little bit of you. It's like, okay. They stole they stole it
Let's show them that this was a mistake. Yeah that they took this we know how to counter it
So what is the counter?
The counter is...
Doom.
Centaur, Doom.
Doom is good.
I would also love to see some kind of AoE.
I think Tiny, Sven, these type of heroes who can, like our supports,
can actually hug the hero and then play around them.
So they're not really influenced by this brute master jumping in
and creating quite a lot of chaos.
Just to hold your ground type of a hero.
Any battle fury buyer as well.
Like, Ursa can be a little bit tricky, of course, like, I don't think you want to be committing.
Sven?
Yeah, I said Sven and Tiny.
Ursa, maybe not as much because he gets dispelled, he gets thrown into the air.
So do the other heroes, but I would probably lean towards the two that I mentioned.
You could also just shit on in lane with the same, the exact same safe lane.
It's open.
The nature is dazzle.
Just try to dumpster it in lane.
If the 1415 pick okay, they're gonna they're gonna take the nature's they're worried about this as well
That's why tomorrow's not about to laugh about that
Did they go for the nature's dazzle now that's the question the unloosable safe lane as it seems right now
Yeah, this coming across very strong
And more and more teams giving it a try so wouldn't be the biggest surprise, but no
It's a lot of chaos, especially if they go with Dazzle. They have even more units with the Brolings.
They lock onto a target, a couple of treants on top of that.
We just deal insane amount of damage. You can basically one-shot some of the supports.
It's going to be Ringmaster.
We've talked about Whitemon on this hero.
Yeah, it could be very... He's definitely one of the best ones.
If maybe like Save, I would put him as the best Ringmaster player out there.
but the white one would be my second choice. Maybe they're thinking about these astrals that are going
to be used defensively. So when they come out, you have the whip, you have the wheel that you can
put on top of that. Before, like throughout Dota history, Jakiro has been used as one of the
counters to OD and Shadow Demon. After they use it defensively, there's going to be an ice bath
macro pyre even on top of that making sure that they can get out of it.
OD however has a little bit of a tool to deal with it now. Now that with the shard upgrade you
can actually move around during the astral. So it's slightly better.
Do you think gamer legion is looking at the 1-1 draft and thinking OD's heroes are stolen from us?
Maybe, yeah.
Oh
These heroes were stolen from us. Yeah, that's good. Just making sure you're yeah hard to correct me
I think one rule of comedy is if a joke doesn't land you repeat it immediately
I've heard that that's a good one. Yeah, that's the norm McDonald's. I need that
So then you go for the Sven very good against all the summons
It's really hard to save from the burst that comes out from Sven with the ringmaster.
He just...
He does too much damage. You cannot click it in time.
Yeah, and I like this pick.
And I think they also prepped for potential bang that can come out with this ringmaster pick,
which would would be really good against the brewmaster.
There you go. That dude's lot that there...
I was telling you, previous game.
Why are you solving the future?
Best pick you could get silencer. They have an interview with the coach. He's like, yeah, that wasn't good and that he picks it
This guy's cool. I'm sure you're telling me
You influenced nomad to ask that question. Yeah mad brought it up to him. He brought it up to the team
He's like guys. I this guy actually sounds and so you
You got this picked in a roundabout way. Yep
and really glad what's the integrity of that is that I was no I think he has to
be bottom them is that allowed I'm calling me sick no more you're not
allowed anymore yeah it's it's gonna lose and they're gonna blame it on me
you gotta blame someone else yeah this is this is my you're the skate yeah look
at my that's my guy right you have a panel on he likes your ideas you should
reach out what the what is going on guys I I have this like I want to see you
Are you into Sven? Are you insane?
Exactly. This is something that happened in the previous series.
They banned CK against Sven.
And also we saw Shad play it one time before.
Also didn't end too well.
Hold on. So you're telling me it's mid-natures.
I mean, that's gonna do well against OD.
That's definitely one of the better heroes.
It's a godly Sven game.
The Sven is good against all three cores on their side.
I do want to remind you as well. You said support CK was a viable thing on day one. It is yes
If they want to it was with darks with darks are only
What is going on here guys if they need more like aoe damage, I think hero like I
Think tide hunters more than fine
I think to the legions
I'm not a good friend, I'm not a good friend, not a good test by accident, I like the Tide,
I think that's a great. I think I think axe is a very good pickup as well
Just to have a beefy boy anything that has any kind of aoe to deal with all these summons deal with all these illusions
But hold on
I'm listening. I
Know we hate it, but what about dark seer?
You got dark seer plus van combination
You got willow which is kind of a pseudo melee support that can play with the shell. I
I feel like if there's any game for Darkseer, it's against CK, you get an actually good illusion from him.
Oh man, I can't wait to watch this game. First of all, because I hate CK as a hero. They need to buff this guy. It's just not doing too much at the moment, especially after they picked an Intus then.
It's very good, like, when you think about Odi, he struggles against a brewmaster, has
no AOE whatsoever, he does use insane amount of damage, so brewmaster can easily use Cyclone
on him.
Same goes for CK, same concept where he doesn't have AOE to deal with the, like, illusion-based
heroes, but Sven definitely does, and I feel like CK, he just needs so much time to come
online.
He does and by the time he comes online guess who's farmed 50 ancient stacks
That would be Sven a hard counter. So they're gonna have to
Play some very early game tempo with nature's profit and they can it's a hero that can do that
He's gonna need to be active in the side lanes all eyes on BZM assuming this is BZM. It could very well be a support nature
It's been a while, but it could be
And Fade, he's going to see the entire one-win draft and get to pick his hero, so it could
be the Axe, it could be the Darkseer.
Yeah, I like this.
I was thinking about the BKB piercing ability that they could potentially throw.
Something at least that Sven is afraid of.
We've seen so many games so far at Valakia where you don't have anything, and Sven jumps
in and just deletes one hero, starts running at the second hero, and everybody needs to
run back immediately.
I think the pickup is good. They don't have the best way of utilizing his shard other than like maybe astral
But I don't think it's it's that great. No
It's it's a little hard to play into willow though like you throw the brambles down you walk on them
The charge can't come through. There's the tight hunter you mentioned. Yeah, it makes a lot of other damages like very limited at the early stages
CK plus
ringmaster not the strongest of the lanes I really like what game religion got
for themselves all eyes on BGM for me he has to pop up like has to he has to be
able to go to these side lanes get the kills try to punish this silencer pick
which is definitely not the strongest one maybe try to outnumber bring that
extra bit of a damage to kill the tight hunter kill the willow as well they have
have the global lineup because Spirit Breaker is also available, but I just have my massive
doubts about CK as a carry at the moment.
And you know Gamer Legion is coming into this with that chip on their shoulder.
They want this so bad.
This is the team that knocked them out of TI, and they have a chance to make them look
like chumps.
There's an opportunity here.
So, yeah, I just, one win has to play fast, and I'm afraid for them that this is not what
they've been doing in this tournament at all.
They've been very slow, they've been farming, even in the games that they win, they farm
the entire time, and they win in like the 30 plus minute mark.
But this game, they gotta play fast, they gotta switch it up.
Right, well we can get some insight into that draft, and Nomad is with Moomi under
right now.
Hi, certainly. Yeah, I mean, you want to talk about game one? Do you want to pretend it didn't happen?
Let's just pretend it didn't happen.
Alright, game one here. You've gone for the CK. Any worries about CK into spend or is that matchup fine?
I don't think the matchup is that fine, but I think the real carry is going to be busy. So yeah, chat, chat.
He only has like a couple of heroes. He's really comfortable on CK and he's one of them. So, you know, play your player strengths.
Alright, the Nature's Prophet mid, not something we've seen a ton of. Is that going to do well
in the OD? Because apparently nothing seems to do well in the OD at the moment.
Yeah, this hero is really strong in the sense that I currently lose middle. That's why Sumail
is playing it and I'm demolishing literally even the hard matchups. Not much you can do about it.
But OD is a weakness later in the sense that he just can add his right clicks. So maybe
fear and the tree and stuff I'm a new person yeah I see so I mean how is it
the hero that was I think it's unpicked at TI right how does this here I mean
there's no big patch chains or anything and suddenly he's like the business
we're seeing it first picked in an almost every game I think this little
letter patches for everything that's like super broken the best nerf actually do
matter it's like you know nothing changed but all the you got to look at it
like power skilling wise like everything that was that was a nerve got stronger
like for example like SF was blocking like literally so many off lanes but now SF is gone
like some of the off lanes can you know peak the head out now
alright thank you for the insight last question then who should we be looking at on your roster
you already mentioned BZM let's actually take it to the other side who you gonna shut down
who's not gonna have a game on the side of game of Legion
Hopefully speed though to hate on the subs
Absolutely. Alrighty. Well, good luck here mr. Moon me and I'm hoping to see some good things coming out
I'm bringing us to a third game with Sun's kind of syndrome
Thank you very much silence, sir has not looked good at this tournament
Tidehunter has not looked good at this tournament
Honestly the games that we've cast OD hasn't looked particularly good either unless there's a moron chaos
Okay, Chaos Knight has really not looked good at this tournament, it's Babe.
In Chaos Knight's defense, she was picked one game, and I think Shad picked him first or second pick that game.
Got triple countered, and his hero was just useless.
He's only double countered now.
Yeah. I don't believe in that hero at all right now.
Any circumstance?
Last pick in the really good game, I think it can be nice, but...
But in this position where you don't even know the Offlane matchup and the enemy has Sven, it's going to be a no for me dog.
Dog?
Oh, you don't know that quote. That's alright.
That's all good.
A lot of damage right now on Defey, playing this Tidehunter.
Okay, so if you hate CK, do you like the Tide slash Silencer? Tide has a 0% win rate at this tournament.
I think it's always dangerous to just look at heroes in the back room and not look at the bigger picture.
the bigger picture. Yes, Tide's win rate is bad in his tournament with three games, three losses,
but it's a good pick for this game. It's good against CK, it's good against Brewmaster,
it's good against Prophet. So I think Fates matchups justify the pick. It's the overall last pick of
the draft, so they had all information available to him. Souser is a little bit more of an oddball.
I think this is some player preference coming in here more so than it being an obviously good
pick for the game. Global Sounds is nice to kill Burmester with, but that's kind of it,
right? Unless you're somehow expecting to counteract a teleportation play from profit
like localing, past your heroes getting jumped, which is, you know, kind of a niche, but it's not
one of those... It's like one of those... The nature's part, I mean, I think it's good against
Scarebreaker. You charge, and before he gets another strike off, you global, like that stops a
potential gank. I think that's actually pretty decent. It's okay, but yeah, that's pretty much it.
There's none of this that is three things that a counter just
Yeah, the only one that is like it I would say is a big counter in these is the preventing chrono flicker going off
You really don't think the net is straight
But how many times does
Spirit breaker charge somebody and he need that extra stun for the rest of the team to catch up
No, you're right. It's not like it's nothing, but you're it's against at that point. You are against a support
using global silence and
And his spell has a tenth of yours in cooldown.
But also, remember the pick order.
This was...
He didn't pick it into Spirit Breakers the other way around.
So what you can give the hero credit for is you picked it with Sven and you picked it
against Prophet and Broomaster at the time.
I think that was all they saw.
That looks like a really good Sven game to me.
Did you have the...
Yep.
...BKB started the Nether Strike, but against Nature's Prophet, against CK, pretty good.
Damn, it's... spanking.
And there's nothing stopping him from getting a free lane here.
I don't think... unless BZM starts rotating really early...
should be doing quite well.
Alright, charge onto speed down bottom in the lotus pool.
Can't him auto cover him.
Yes, you can with the stun.
And he's trying to bully out Ari,
but this is going to be an interesting...
No, never mind.
I actually thought they were gonna turn that around with speed hitting level 2
and try to fight for it, but they'll let Ari have it.
He needs some lifeline, also taking some abuse up top.
That's so joining us big num big num looks to be the first blood who gets it. It will be bzm rewarded from that mid lane
Yeah
Thunder clap on the speed locked up and bashed up by Ari
Auto left to his own devices for the time being
Good start for one minute in terms of kills
And how good is the brewmaster this game?
Looking at the potential dispells, Ramble, Sven, Warcry, Cycloning, Tide or OD is very
good.
The reason I said Tide is good against Brew is it's a double its mashup to be honest here.
One of the heroes that brewmaster can't really kill, but you're also not really buying items
to counter Brew on Tide.
again on to speed here, already trying to get 33 off to a passable start. He is already far
behind, excuse me, in this bottom lane against the Sven, but I think that's kind of to be expected.
This is actually ending up to be a quite decent silencer lane because you're playing into double
melee and he just started with Glaives of Wisdom. Just keeps hitting that SB. I forget if it was
banned, but if it wasn't, was there any consideration for Darkseer for 30 seconds? Well, they first
Oh, that's right, but there was consideration for Darksword for Faith. It wasn't the pull for last pick.
I think that would have also been a decent option, but I do like the tide as well.
Charged into instant bash, speed.
Stormhammer to help save.
I was actually going to hurt Ari quite a bit on the way out of the door.
The Kamano looking pretty good on the CS mid lane looking very good for RCY 33 and 6 versus
the 22 and 11.
Definitely leading that which to be honest I feel like OD the laning stage without like
a Marana on the team has looked a bit underwhelmed maybe we're just watching a lot of the people
I have an Eliminating Orange.
Charge will hit, on to speed gets the kill.
And actually a team from BZM can turn this on to Bignum as well.
So both supports dead for Gamer Legion.
A much better start this time around for one win actually getting something.
And it's good to see one win actually being aggressive early once.
It's like, yeah.
Name of the game for them is Let's Farm and Chill.
I agree 100%. I've been missing that all tournament from them.
Like seeing BZM on spirits, seeing him on something.
I mean, if you don't want to run that mid profit is also fine.
Like just enable your side lanes.
You cannot be this greedy as they've been in a lot of their drafts.
Fate now, up top.
Pop the Kraken, shove a BZM, gets him with the ult, so 5-0 start for one win.
Again, the mid laner and safe laner of Gamer Legion still farming well, but
Those are going to start to stack up, astral into the bramble, put that first kill, just
charges into a bramble, so RCY will get it.
I've been able to.
It shows up in the mid lane.
Okay.
Huh.
That's a little odd.
What's he doing here?
X2CS away from RCY.
Job done.
Okay.
Weird.
That is opening up a potential play for the wisdom.
here they actually just have it I think they're gonna get both looks like Alice
really odd okay great news for one win getting both of those
okay it's sprouted off that bracket shell
good amount of damage from Shat and BZM trying to lock it off cuz he hit her
smash but looks like he's gonna get taken out 33 is the trade so it's off lane for off lane
very least game religion gets some sort of a win on their side
mercy why finally we'll start crushing this tier one just a bit
of the
easy and looks like it's going to be drums for side of the
as we have a complete of RCY
start actually pushing very early in the minutes
This is gonna be more of a this patch or this game feels more like a game from last patch
you know two offlaners just in the bin safe laners having con mid laners breaking even
Alright, I think he is spotted charging to bot side.
Time to save 33, that's not going to happen, the speed gets the kill.
BZM shows up.
I don't think he's going to get anything out of this, although the charge is going to complete.
Actually, ooh!
Alright, a lot of damage on a big one.
Results in the kill.
Auto-Shall lived though, and that's the important one for game religion, of course.
Has the Mask of Madness now.
And it's these RC-1s on the mid lane, and Steve will continue to meet your Hammer Creep slash towers.
I want to see an OD actually pop off. Have we seen one yet?
Like, we've had some games where they're okay.
Um, not like, truly pop off.
Yeah, I think that's fair to say. I think we're...
To the point where I would say...
Oh, EZM.
Astralt.
Reinforcements.
Speed.
Trying to catch up.
So that has to kill off the nature's profit briefs though, it's like BZM does die anyway.
And speed was eventually tiled off by those trans apparently.
Speed in the meantime, Rackagell's already activated, it's charged from the other side.
That will save him.
That's four heroes up top by the way.
That worked out quite well for game religion.
And RCY getting the ending of the big streak on profit there. He was 6 and 0.
So a nice influx for him. This is almost treads, complete and windblast, so efficiency will ramp up.
And the way this is going, it feels like it's just a guarantee more or less that Timato and RCY both will have good farm.
So this is where the hero matchups really come into play.
The Diarr lineup isn't able to remove map control fast enough, they're inevitably going to go to that mid-Lake game portion where I personally have very little faith in the CK, so I'm looking to be surprised.
At least this time around, Shanta took play the lane. Last CK game he got absolutely run over.
So fast and get storm hammered
And crowned
Yeah late game CK into a spend sound pretty miserable. I mean how is it against the rest of the lineup though?
Meh against tide unless you have silver edge
It's okay against OD though right pretty bad against willow
It's bad against everybody other than the OD. It's decent against OD and good against all
Everything's getting silenced, apparently.
Charged from the other side, back to shell activates.
Easy, yeah.
Just hit him, lol.
Can't do much, apparently.
Looks like Bates got to a point where he's a little bit more difficult.
The kill has the morbid mask to life steal off the anchor.
And if they keep sending trants on him like this, they're just giving him more farm.
And more to life steal off of.
Definitely a feels good item for Bates.
Going for the early blades of course, into the soul ring. Yep. Might do the soul ring first and just get a casual more of it. I think that's probably better.
Let's see though.
I would argue it's definitely better, like he has to my soul. You need the Monoing Pucks to keep farming a lot.
But he's definitely on line too now. The tide. Sure, I know his net worth doesn't look all that impressive, but for tide this is more than good enough a lot of the time.
a lot of the time. Now you just get to start farming the jungle with your Soul Ring. Shad,
looking for some sort of play here with his Armlet reveal, and waste of time back to the jungle.
Now he's farming better than a lot of the other games that we've seen. That's good news for
one win. 33 buys a Midas. I know you're a big fan of that.
I'm gonna slow things down a bit for one win.
You just have no comment.
I am not a minus believer.
Shatter Shryker into the Thunder Clap.
R.C. White pops the Obdurgation.
It's gonna survive a little bit longer.
BZM with the Sprout though.
A nice kill for one win.
I'm gonna try to turn this into some damage at the very least of this tier 2.
We're south of the fortification.
That's probably the end of that. They're actually gonna glyph offensively, thinking they can push this to the limit.
Considering what spells you just used, I would heavily advise against burn forcing this, and they will indeed back out.
They have no spells left. All ulti's on cooldown.
That was an instance where global silence could have been very helpful, but to be just hit level 6 now.
Pretty late on that.
Yeah, they didn't get any wisdoms. That's the price you pay.
Well, something tells me the next one will go their way. 33 Astral.
They look like the Bramble and the Bedlam.
Tomato takes the kill for himself.
Thanks guys.
Let me just storm hammer all your hard work and use it in the jungle.
I don't think they're complaining too much.
No, of course.
If your spend gets big, that's good news.
Yup.
We'll be at trade of the shrines this time.
I mean speed gets to level 7
The RC why would he go for blink is next I mean what he said me why is he finished Reds
Was it Brown boots me your hammer yeah
Oh well, it was Meteor Hammer before boots, which is a pretty standard gun.
Farming fan, fan has an early scavenger.
Bane's gonna stick his fat body in front of this tier one.
Has the Vlad's finished.
We'll be going for Agon and Scepter, so not rushing any sort of a blink.
I mean, Ag's this game is extremely good.
It's incredibly good, man.
It's just generally good. You'd be hard-pressed to find a bad game for that. Oh right, Sanities. Not enough, but the attack will be with the Meteor Hammer burning him out.
Takes down Ari. So, um...
Yeah, Axe Untyed. You're against... It helps you clean out the chance. It gives you minus armor per spend to hit a lot harder.
I assume you take every Gush talent?
Yeah, for sure.
10, 15, 20.
Clean out the CK illusions.
help deal with brewmaster split. That's just too many upsides. This is a guaranteed buy.
Okay.
They're going to try to backstab Bade. 5-0-5-1 win. They're going to get the charge.
We will wonder. We'll activate.
Bade's going to get the global silence help. He's actually going to be on VP. This will be really close.
Attempting for but no.
He didn't have the damage in the end.
He didn't use Kraken Shell. He would have lived.
Oh, you're right.
Wow.
Pretty big mistake there.
Beed's not to be too happy with that.
He used a big cooldown.
That genuinely seemed like this was not premeditated.
Like, they hadn't talked about the fact that,
hey, I'm going to Global, you can TP out.
Yeah.
He Globaled, and then Fade was like,
uh, oh, wait, I can TP, and then,
you know, he at the moment didn't use his Kraken Shell, so...
Not the cleanest.
It happens.
It's still, even with that, the kill is just so many heroes being brought for that, but
obviously one win recognizing that if they want to stop Tide from being a nuisance up there, they do need to show up in numbers.
The question is, is it even worth it?
That's going to cost you BOT Tower.
OD and Sven are now accessing the Dire Triangle area, and OD immediately looking to hammer up mid.
I'm hearing his onslaught. Next hammer will take down the tower. I think this is going to be denied now by Ari.
Okay, they're actually going to glyph it. Speed.
Spotted, and he's in a corner.
Where is he?
He's dead. He's smashed out of the low ground. Terrorized, trying to help out the store counter from above.
And the strength comes in with a huge right click and a wipe on the box. It's going to save him temporarily.
But both supports dead now for one win.
And the tower.
And speed lived. The corner was the spot for him. Fade on as a gush slow at the
ravage. They need it. They do not agree dead for one win and all the
ravage coming in is gonna hit the two remaining mappers of one win with the
Sanity clip shot trying to stay alive with the armlet not gonna happen. He just
gets cleaved down. Extra gold for the Sven. 33 barely blinks out in time. Although
I say that Storm Hammer still finds him in the end as RCY cannot finish the job
and now Tamato getting stunned up.
And they're striking a bringin' back at the ninth as well.
Wheel of wonder. Get a nice bandage, but he's in a horrible spot right now.
Tamato sticking around a little bit too long as Thunder claps.
That's going to be the death of him. Still a good fight for Gamer Legion.
A good fight? That could have been a lot better if they didn't dive Brumas for 20 seconds, but...
Greed will be your downfall.
This recap is not the entire fight, of course. That's the second half of it when they dove.
And Tomato being top net worth, he instead of going for that chase he could have had another 500 gold right now
Maybe a thousand almost because he also lost from dying
but
It is still a good sign the game religion are able to take this initiative and get good use out of their hairs
And it's a bad sign the chaos night probably has 50 hero damage so far in this game, but
That might change in the future. You never know
Not a hater by the way
I do like the hero, that's the thing. That's why it's a bit sad to see it in the state that it feels like it's been in for so long.
It's not kind of get overtaken by power creep.
But he has that cool M8 syndrome.
Yeah. Not enough?
Apparently. Neutrals aren't good enough apparently.
Hmm. Oh, we gotta buff those.
Until he gets to tier 5 though, then it becomes monstrous.
Big mom? Gonna get spotted? Wait?
Yep. That'll do it.
It's the Shadow Realm, though.
You can use your wheel of wonder, alright?
Alright, there are four heroes here to celebrate his death.
Understandable.
And of course they're gonna go for Tormentor. Oh wait.
Maybe it was up. Yeah, maybe.
Biking up is white on. Here he comes! The clown!
He's gone on. They don't have Wheel of Wonder this time.
No, pops the war cry. It's enough damage.
That's a costly death for Gamer Legion.
Yeah, no global use for that one.
I guess they didn't see a way out of it, but that's a big kill.
Did he not have TP?
Yeah, he did not.
I mean maybe you could have dodged some of the...
Like if White Mawn doesn't get to get his spells off perhaps.
Could have played his way out of it before crying.
Or he could have brought some important spots.
They're gonna try to take the initiative themselves, recognizing that
one of them are likely in their triangle, which they were.
Just five seconds too late here.
See if they can connect them to anything else.
are going up the line here and we'll meet Shad CK.
Yeah, they jump right in, get the Astral Sanity Clips, get a focus down.
Well, looks like they won't be able to get the support right off the bat,
instead it's the CK, so why not?
That one destroys them.
45 seconds on the deck.
Third and net worth for Shad, and they're actually eyeing Roche potentially.
Well, Fade does have the Leapy Nags on the way, and Tide obviously a great tank for the
Roche.
Sustained the damage for quite long, Odi does some decent damage.
This is a lot easier with a spin showing up though, and that's what's happening now.
Okay, he's running past them.
Alright, Fade might need some help, Tamato.
Maybe he doesn't.
What? Is he just farming?
Yep. I must be really confident that the enemy team is not showing up.
I know right? It actually works out.
True.
It really hurts for something here.
R.C. White gets the Aegis.
Didn't want to finish that sentence, did he?
No. I'll leave that one out of this tournament.
It's alright.
Shout out to 40 year old version, Greatest Movies.
I'm sure you've seen that.
Oh, no.
Great Steve Carell.
Oh, yeah, but that is maybe
It's all good don't watch movies you don't watch TV you don't repose
You can't reuse the same joke as yesterday. It's not a joke. I'm explaining your life
Just need to remind you every day. Hmm
Will you change these habits?
Get some culture Cinder and everyone know you're not nose. You're not very cultured
Yeah, I guess so
Hard to argue with that 33 800 away from acts might is starting to pay off
So late game you don't think one win are in good position just because of CK
So nothing he can itemize to be more effective against this specific line-up or is it just you can only the issues of the hero
You definitely can't but he's just inherently unfavorable
I think the items that you need in this game you might want to get a silver edge at some point to pose a threat to the tide either you or
Probably need to do that. All right one gets two shot by tomorrow. Yeah, it happens good old spin
Okay, I guess I guess period Rick can also get the silver already has the shadow blade now on Ari
Yeah, I don't know I I'm just waiting to be surprised by CK that's all I'm saying like I have very
low expectations for the hero and I know for a fact that Odian spend late game hit like trunks.
DKB already popped into the motto. It's a stun onto the CK again though. There are bots nearby.
There is Eclipse is enough with the bedlam from Global Scyler.
I see why Axial literally, Ravage comes out with DKB already popped into DKB.
Two dead for one win on the retreat. You see him getting slowed and now Axial then will be surrounded.
Even a meteor hammer being used, Ari trying to take some people, he gets the kill on the speed. Attempted TP?
Is enough, actually. But still, one win. Dropping like flies, it's a 4 for 1.
Yep.
Could have easily been a team wipe, but VZM.
Can narrowly got out. They should be happy it didn't go worse than that.
But again, it's just another fight. CK gets jumped, does nothing.
This hero lives and dies with its ability to be the initiator and get value out of its illusions.
If the illusions die or if you could jump the heroes just very bad.
Here you see Shad getting caught in brambles, getting terrorized.
He doesn't even get to play the fight.
Now you get the illusions off. They get two shot by Sven plus an ODLT.
The rest of the fight plays itself.
Like you pointed out though, fortunately for them, not dying there on the profit.
If they piled on a little bit more here, Bignum and Tomato are splitting off killing Ari.
If one of them was on EZM instead, he would have died.
Yeah, it was very close.
And that would have obviously been a bigger kill in the Spirit Breaker, but it's easy
to say in hindsight.
Like you just gotta make a judgement.
Great!
Great!
It's a judgement call.
They thought they had him.
I don't blame them.
good split and could have easily got the whole team just...
The Aegis is still intact as well for RCY as they are looking extremely good in this series.
Surprised to hear Moomi enter in the interview talking very open.
I mean, I guess I shouldn't be surprised to hear Moomi enter after all the time.
It's openly about the lack of the hero pool from Shad.
I'm just I'm surprised like if that's the case then pick him Sven. It's one of his best heroes
We've cast him for other teams before he's picked far more heroes than like the breeze
It's a lot of stuff and he's good at some and I just I mean how many games have we cast now where Sven was just straight up bad
I think maybe one and even even if you get counterpicked the hero does a lot more than CK does yeah, so
100%. I don't know. I understand that the Sven pick here from Tamato was semi early in the draft
and maybe one when we're hoping to get it for themselves, but I think they could have picked
the risk they take, I suppose, is that what was the pick order? So they pick Brew and then they pick
Profit and if they hadn't picked Profit there and they picked Sven instead, then the enemy team
might have dazzled Profit them again, which seemed to be a big issue last game. So it was a bit of a
protective measure
I mean is it so bad picking three cores right off the bat because you could flex the nature's profit
Yeah, but I don't I think the Sven got picked before they had the chance to right. I see if I remember correctly
I mean, I feel like and again, this is easier in hindsight if you're one win and
Right now. Shout is having a rough time this tournament. I think that's safe to say. Yeah, and it's a mixed bag
It's not just him, you know, no, of course not
He can be having a difficult term in for various reasons.
Maybe the right idea is to just pick a hero relatively early in the draft every time because
they're not protecting him in game.
Like none of these games, they have been, they just sell him out every time.
But if you're selling out on a CK versus just any hero that is considered even remotely
good in this patch, just feels a little odd, I guess.
I'm just thinking of Shad and I just, I don't think of a guy with a small hero pool.
I don't know if he's lost faith in himself or some sort of confidence, or if whatever, like, what Moonbeam was saying just surprised me a bit.
I was like, really?
Yeah.
I think this guy plays a lot of the meta heroes that our other teams are running.
He plays them, too.
I think he can also play carry profit.
I think he can play carry spin.
Obviously, that goes without saying.
Most of the things that are hot right now are in his wheelhouse.
So that was that one was a, not what I was expecting.
I think Shad can play tiny.
Um, also seems very popular, so yeah, anyway, but in love with CK, now if you jump in onto
the crewman and terrorize them with a global silence, and that's why you picked the silencer,
Tamato, kills off 33, Roche not remotely close to coming up, because the Aegis is about to
expire, Senator, just to let you know.
Check out the name of Tamato's weapon.
What is that?
Someone is going to see that one on broadcast. Wait a second.
I'm going to strike.
Sorry, but I'm going to have to level-sign this. I'm Jack.
Hit the chaos bolt, and the knife is there from Whitemon.
Of course, take the kill.
We get the whip now onto Dark Willow.
A little bit of bleeding going on here from Gamer Legion.
Alright.
Couple of good kills, but fortunately, Tamato survives
dick chopper 9000 you're kidding
oh I forgot what this weapon is called it's the immortal spend sword
okay we had to hide the stats there just to shoot this guy's funny
Mono's a good guy. I like Mono.
Very likeable individual.
Which is very rare for a carry, I feel like.
Hmm.
Aren't they usually piles?
What do you say?
New experience as a support?
A little bit of a generalization.
Yeah, of course. That's what generalizations are for.
Yeah. For lying.
No, it's just blanketing.
Well, generalizations need to be generally true.
Yeah, I'd say that's probably true.
So the majority of carries are assholes.
pro players yeah probably okay I'd say that I'm a hot-tick more than 50% yeah
absolutely all right I'm talking about Dota players here center what do you
think in this series how many of the carries are assholes in this shot actually
seems like a good guy to me all right this this is looking great so far what
about previous love if there's standing he's standing in otherwise it would be
Oh, then it doesn't count. Okay, understood. Fade, anchor, onto Whitemon, and that's a guaranteed kill.
That has to be the top five shot of the game. Amazing. Amazing shot.
Now Whitemon's making it more difficult.
And it used to be even better too.
What was the difference before?
The original dead in the water was, I think it was way lower cooldown and it stunned, right?
It stunned.
He had that tentacle thing that he sure...
That was not yeah, that was a different the shard was literally just impaling didn't anchor them at all. Yeah, well, okay
This was a terrible
Killed off global silence comes out and now this Ben is focusing on BZM
Not able to find a good connection though
Finally just back in though
Terrorized
Eventually they do get the kill on that is three down for one way. Oh boy one minute on profit
to answer your question actually I genuinely don't remember I just remember
it being better I think it was mainly the cooldown I think that was better
I do not miss tactical surprise no three in pales in one game come on two is
enough faith thinking about sieging is like always all tank why not 25 talent
Yeah, though.
Oh, of course the glyph, they'll call it a day.
It's good enough for now.
Still have Ravage, by the way.
It's true.
And he'll wipe out the waves nice and easy.
Curse of that eggs.
Should mention that Speed has a greedy medallion of courage center,
but he's not being greedy with it.
He's buying support items instead of an eggs refresher.
Hmm, unacceptable.
Yep. Very, very unacceptable indeed.
You can report him.
I want to try. Try it.
Give in. Give in to the darkness.
reporting speed
for
Greetings submit. I did not get any feedback. There's no message saying submitted. Oh the anchor cancels the TP
That's not a final split actually for 10 seconds tomorrow
I would have a final split, but that is a no-go so I think the problem right now to get a little bit back on track is
is one win are struggling to find an idea for how they want to take a fight in the first place.
That's what it feels like.
They need to find a way to structure a fight so they get split off and they get to use CK illusions.
Auto.
See how much CK can do here.
That's the Chaos Bolt off.
There's the Global Silence attempting to TP maybe.
No one's going to fight it out apparently.
It gets bashed though.
Now the Phantasm.
But the reality of Rift rather, and Tamato is using the harpoon to try to exit, gets the blink off of the head of vision for the charge, and now gets dropped back in, trying to get the shit out of the CK though.
Chad gets the better of the course that requires many more from one win to join. They do get the spend in the end.
Jesus. Tamato even greedy there. He could have lived. He held his blink for two full seconds, instead of just blinking away right away. And that was what gave Ari the charge.
Close call, but a big kill for 1-1.
He went for MKB, which I assume is just for Brew.
Am I missing something?
It's just Brew, right?
Yeah, why not have a Daedalus?
I feel like I'd go Daedalus in this game.
Yeah, I think so.
Like you get the kill there on CK.
Yeah, probably, yeah.
Like 100% you get that kill.
Like what what's the CK have something that I'm not aware of
No, just wants to burst down the brew
Yes
Activates into the ravage though, they don't have spent for 30 seconds chat
The gushes continue to stack up museum trying to focus on RC white looks like you're gonna get out just fine
Finally, they take out the tide. That's four dead, four gamer legions, so one win, and some big wins now.
They could maybe siege with this if they wanted to, but they're going to take the Roshan's dead. What a weird set of events.
Sven dying like that when he could have saved himself with an earlier blink, and then at the same time they also get caught in mid with a dead carry.
carry. Open the game once more now for one win. We're starting to look pretty bad in this one.
I was saying that I was struggling to see how they were, or rather it looked like they were
struggling to find initiations, but they do find a moment of opportunity here.
One by one they try to help fade and one by one they fall.
So now 3k lead for the dire. It doesn't really feel like a major advantage, but it's just a bit
bit of breathing room, nothing else, and Shad now working on a heart.
Bit discombobulated for Gamer Legion there, so Aegis on CK, I thought they put it on
BZM for sure. Yeah, I think that would maybe be better.
Shad, like CK is basically a transformation type here and he's not really doing as much
damage as the Nature's Prophet, so very surprised.
I agree. Maybe... oh BZM does have a slot, he did
In fact, I can strum.
Mato has Satanic now.
And yet, this is actually the similar build that we saw in the other games.
It's not going to go for Daedalus for quite a while.
And I'll create the Blinkback, then the Daedalus, finally.
In that game, they at least had...
...Shape Shift for him.
For me to like it.
Ha, ha, ha.
Genuine...
NKB feels very underwhelming.
I genuinely don't understand this.
Yes, against Gru, it's good, but...
Huh.
okay so one win with three minutes on the ages is this just one of those let's
delay or the action let's take some buildings I'm a bit distracted I'm
trying to find if there's some sort of disassemble play that explains this but
don't think so because he has a disassembled broadsword but that was just for the satanic right
i'm looking at this mkb has any interaction with his build so that that is why they do it
but i'm not seeing it it has to just be brood you know speaking of brood refresher
yep a bit surprising to see perhaps instead of uh say a disc to guarantee you can get off your
split against global he's banking on getting it off in the first place and then getting a second chance
33 will try to, I'm assuming he's just gonna try to start his ulti from behind the fight.
Like just actually not try to blink in and do anything beforehand.
Just cast the split, run in, and have his teammates set him up.
Another satanic.
This time it's for the profit.
So I'm gonna hit 25.
More god strength damage taken by Tamato.
us untied now. Big, big items coming out and that prompts a smoke.
Aegis still two minutes left on it though. Oh, Ari, actually he hadn't stopped that
charge. He would have charged right into three people smoked. Yeah, that would
have been pretty good. I think the dream scenario here for one win is that they
go on the CK. Now that he has the Aegis and they're wrapping around, they might
actually hit the worst point of contact possible. But gamer legion are
Staying in a different spot, meteor hammering the mid tower is a bit of a giveaway if they noticed it.
Jad with the reaver in his backpack right now.
The ring of Tarask away from the heart.
It's like they will not end up colliding, as Tamato has to clean up the bot lane.
R.C. White, that was a little bit close, but we'll avoid things.
Okay, wants to get aggressive.
They can burn this Aegis pretty easily if they really want to.
Wheel of Wonder comes out last moment.
not do too much as a cracking shell.
Now he has no man to talk for a second life.
That is true.
That's why he's standing big now.
Get the storm hammered.
Mono still has yet to pop the ult,
trying to get through the first life they will.
Eventually, box saves them for a little bit, and there it goes.
Primal split down from 33.
Mono's trying to arc moon away.
It's off, he's getting off the BKB.
Finally does so, look at the damage coming out though.
It's gonna beat down this fear break.
It does fall, it's gonna be a trade for speed.
They're now on the run.
Hanzo right quick damage from BZM with the first crowd giving him hold him in place.
With the primal split, Rulings in the enemy base.
I think they'll be able to follow this up as much as they can to stun him.
To the ravage, look at him just going to blow up the brewmaster.
So 33, biting off too much to chew.
As for not going to get the satanic back to full HP,
and Shad now going to attempt to run away in all likelihood.
No, credit to him, he'll try to fight it out.
This is a losing battle, though.
As for not just risked through on BZM, finally gets the kill though.
And now turning his sights on the fade.
He went quite a bit on attack damage, he gets the double kill in the end.
Fly back down to the Tidehunter, BZM.
Love to finish this fight, but now it's going to be a two versus one.
Get the Astral to slow things up.
Ringmaster buys back.
Get the stun now onto the anchor smash.
With the gush to follow, the box gives him a little bit of space to tend to the TP.
Has the anchor to cancel that completely though, now the right click damage from RCY is stacking up.
Wheel of Wonder not going to do much.
Down goes BZM.
And Whitemon's going to have to unicycle his way out.
hit some trees needs to work on his driving skills there we go that's a
good mini game oh that okay after all of that that was the end result that's a
lot of decks easily in the favor of the radiant though those that fight into
ages all he actually ends up finding white mon up here oh boy one more hit
would do it no blink ready RCY we'll have to give up on this so alright to
Recap that fight, CK gets jumped, has to fan test defensively in his first life, and then on the second fight...
Why does he have to?
Or chooses to. I'm not sure if he had to. I think maybe it would have been better to just take that first death without using it.
Yeah.
And then on the second life, he comes back with BKB, hits Sven three or four times for like 400 damage,
and then Sven presses one button and heals it all off with one swing.
If mid-profit was not popping off in that fight, that would have been totally horrible for one win,
Fortunately for them, their mid the hero is a carry.
33, they use the primal split immediately.
And that was another thing in that fight.
33 jumping into the enemy base and then just dying before you get the second one off.
Babe, pops the crack and shell.
This is so awkward.
Nobody really wants to fight, it seems.
Immovable object versus immovable object.
That's a split down.
The enemy outpost control, but if he really needs that E on disk.
Well, I did get two splits off in that previous one, but did he only get the one?
I thought it was the one. Maybe he only got one.
I guess you're right. The pressure is ready. He probably only got one off.
I could be on.
Anyway, he's gonna have the disk soon enough. There's a heart now for CK.
The challenge is to keep your illusions alive for like 5 seconds.
If they all get to attack with Phantasm on, it is meaningful damage.
But so far they haven't managed to find us.
I haven't noticed CK having an ultimate and fights for anything else than losing it immediately.
Yeah, pretty much.
Which is not exactly inspiring in a 40 minute game.
CK is notoriously kind of a tempo carry that wants to take advantage of Phantasm early on.
Just hasn't really done much.
You're talking about these late game scenarios with spearbreaker, very scary hero.
Yeah, what's his second neutral thing?
So tough and quicken.
They're going pretty good.
The MKB works out now, huh?
Oh, yeah.
He knew all along.
Auto.
Close to Daedalus.
He's just the demon edge away from the Daedalus, yeah.
is so gigantic I hope we get to see Superman though I don't look for his
next item he cured it up is it still dispel on contact yes it does good
against anything it's good against bulldoze yep very good and can you can't
target a box no but may I don't know if it if you target something next to it if
If the spell is AoE, I would think it is.
Yeah, it should be.
That could be interesting.
So maybe.
Or if he casts it before the box is cast, it'll still continue, I assume.
Yeah, that should also be fair.
That could be pretty meaningful.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, he is rating it a Pokemon Shard.
So he must think there's some value to it, right?
Shad, alone, stealing the wisdom, actually going to get away with this, it looks like.
Oh, or is he RCY?
Oh, okay. Small PTV will be forced. That's not true.
No bastard yet on RCY.
That'll be okay.
That's the connection, Netherstrike.
He was just gonna disrupt it a bit, but here comes VZS.
These supports are in trouble.
Netherstrike should ensure the death of the silencer.
Speed is dead.
Even the primal spit being used to big them will drop as well.
Extremely awkward hero placements here.
here. The fact that Willow and Soloncer are just off on an island there while
their cores are running off. Easy punish for one win. Here's gonna be your disc
for Brewmaster. Profit is working on a Daedalus and yep, if you don't do anything
about this it's a Roche with these two support nuts, two to three immediately
popping the refresher, wants to split again.
Coming for it!
Okay, great, great.
But gosh, they're gonna try to focus down the primal skillet and lose Earth of Bruelings.
They will get one.
It's 33.
I think there's so much space here.
As the AGC is eventually going to be taken by BZM.
So, successful encounters so far from one, don't they?
Loses support, fade.
Stuffed inside the sprout.
They're gonna get away.
Come on, oh, they will find Cheedys and a Roche banner though.
Or is that refresher?
Yeah, it's the Roche banner.
I got the Cheez-N-Banner.
Okay, I mean that.
I also died back from Bignum, but uh, it's not the worst.
And I've had some play from 33 to blink up to the high ground and split there.
That was very, very important that he got that far into the enemy team.
If he had split in the pit, that could have gone really awkward.
But instead, gives his team the information needed.
And this time the Aegis does indeed go on to the nature's profit.
They learned their lesson I guess so
Museum is 15 and four after all
Turned out to be a very good game number two after a complete dumpster stomp. Yeah
This anyone's game this one
still feels like now that the heroes are starting to cap out some of them like
profit and spend OD is slowly getting there too I'm still worried for the
longevity of the dire lineup in this game it's gonna be overwhelming blink
next for shad his hero technically still doesn't have a single damage item
there's no bloodthorn which is kind of illusions will be tanky but are they
gonna withstand tomorrow yeah do they do they okay think of it this way if he
makes the illusions more tanky and they still die then they might as well be
weaker and actually pack a punch in like two seconds of a jump window right
which would be the bloodthorn approach where you just jump and it immediately
assassinate someone you do so much blood on one of these supports well
Now, Bignum does have heals, but speed not so much.
I think you could even kill someone like Sven.
If you actually got the stun off and you just jump them with bloodthorn and a profit, the
damage is not insignificant at that point.
With this build, it's kind of like, you know, you're staying alive, but maybe that's the
point.
The point is for him to be like a lightning rod, so profit gets to carry.
That could be.
Moon did say that in the interview that, well, our carry in this game is in the mid lane.
My solutions are going to get tankier, Cinder, with a 25 town.
Alright, we haven't seen anyone hit that yet.
You normally even go for that one, I don't even know.
I think you're definitely doing this again.
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He's eaten up, popped a cracking shell, but he is dead.
Down for two minutes, has buyback.
So he ended up forcing it,
still two minutes on the ages for BZM.
You have Refresher Shard on Ari, by the way, that's cool.
Oh yeah, that's actually really strong.
He can change done Sven forever.
That's absolutely the idea here.
If Global Silence is on cooldown,
Ari has, what's that, between all of his abilities,
probably six and a half, seven seconds of stun for the Sven, maybe CK can kill him then.
Might be 12.
All you need is ten seconds of stun.
Alright, one win. Gonna try to force this play back.
He's a strong Trience by the way. That's the 25 talent.
I feel like when you take that talent you should start using the model of the big Trience.
Another strike. You're gonna start getting talent. See if he pops that refresher.
He doesn't even need to.
He gets destroyed, Tamato, in the midst of all of that.
They're gonna have to do a double buyback to survive.
Now the Phantasm comes out.
There's buyback number one.
Still a full minute for Ty.
Do you think the Dush would be extremely helpful here?
And Chad jumping in, going up on the...
He's dead again!
The ass is gonna stay with the timing, Tamato.
Getting up to safety, and he's trying to kill up Ari.
They will do so.
He's talking to the second buyback though.
Now, Dush on the BZM, standing his ground with that second life, has the Daedalus now as well, big absolutely cannot die here, that would be a dieback.
First crowd, BZM can't move, he's not in any threat whatsoever.
They do save the melee, just barely.
Those are kind of funny situations there. I think RCY meant to banish the Sven but misclicked it on something next to him.
And that kind of baits in. One way to try to kill the Sven, they don't have enough and he gets a kill on the way out.
With a clean banish they might have actually not lost his spirit player.
They're a funny situation.
And they will reset. Now this is really good news for the dire side. They have a clear path to victory.
Kill the Sven or the Tide and play the 5v4.
It's funny that they kind of split their efforts on both lanes with the Phantasm, and they don't end up getting either Barracks.
Yeah, only the Ransom and Midas down.
Yeah, things looking good now for 1-1. 17k lead.
Rosh, two and a half minutes from knowing, but you feel like Gamer Legion, they cannot
make another mistake.
Like you said, if one of these two gets caught off guard, it's potentially just GG.
Tide is close to having a refresher now, he doesn't need to save gold for it since he
used his buyback.
He could just sell his Sol Ring now and get it, I think, which is exactly what he is going
to do.
The Sol Ring becomes unnecessary because of all the mono region you get for the refresher.
but it's more or less self-sufficient to spam Gush
with 13 mana per second here.
It's a big item to get.
Two ravages could change the game.
And I can't help but have this feeling that even 20K down,
the radiant line actually has a decent shot
of winning this game.
Because ultimately the dire have to try to push,
depending on what fights they fight, right?
If they push with Aegis, Cheese, and Refresher,
obviously the equation is probably a bit different, but.
Yeah, I mean museum it's not like he's getting any stronger. He literally has a backpack backpack data list. Yeah, and he has a moon shard
He doesn't have eggs yet
Which is actually kind of good
so
You imagine who wants to buy that
Additional control is always nice when PKB start dropping or better than a
Shard guard has it. I know, but
I'll better than buying a moon sharp for CK. No for the nature's profit
like going axe first instead yeah I would be sure probably advocate for going
axe first but again the mindset museum is probably in is I have to carry this
game so I'm a drone or tomato this could have a big impact just need to find a
jump which is a big big job mark yeah silver edge now for our a big pickup
that's huge this allows time to be much more killable I mentioned this 40
minutes ago would have loved to see it on CK. Yeah, but we'll be the breaker that
has an up-day spot. Magnum, he has no bivouac if you guys here, good rambles.
Keeping himself safe.
It's good to have Sven when you're playing against big trants. Kind of deals
with that quite well.
Did we notice they killed the melee barracks?
No.
At the top?
I didn't notice that at all.
I guess the trans did it.
Yeah, I guess so.
Alright.
The first set of barracks goes to one win.
Good thing Tomato can take care of- Alright, there's Superman.
Yeah.
He's about to be maxed out.
Just needs the moonshard.
Yeah.
power of dick chopper 9000 you should be able to wipe out these big waves if
you're just tuning in and you're like what the hell that is the name of his
sword that's right so we're not just saying weird things here it's on the
players it's his response he is right his fault okay he's a big proponent of
circumcision so let's just let's see what he can do
just waiting for this next row it's a longer one though two minutes more for
Roche to spawn
octoreen next for nature's profit what exactly you're getting rid of here
before agg. Really? Is this just for like pushing lanes constantly and then
yeah he's just spotting more big trans but
okay but then if they catch you then that's six seconds where you try to swap
something that's actually helpful. I mean I'm just thinking about it from the
perspective of if if a fight breaks out in any way and you just instantly
press your ulti button you might force a defensive item to be used with aggs.
So, I just, I don't agree with not buying that when you're basically, you're 50,000 net worth.
Surely it has some sort of impact to root.
Even if it's tied, like even if he can be
cracking off or whatever, well what if he isn't taking damage, then he's just stuck there.
Obviously great against the Sven might force out something, but...
But I digress.
Missing items on RC wide feels like
Feels like OD in a nutshell
She's brew master. There's the hex
33 completely destroyed white mod he gets leashed up get through his
He on disc as well. They can they drop the gen. I'm not sure if they saw that
Alright, that was a very surprising moment clearly for 33, did not account for this being a possibility, but
They prompt the disc and then they immediately storm hammer him for the dispel
We didn't talk about for Ian. We didn't talk about the disc exactly. Alright, I think now we'll get caught
In the open
Spirit breaker and CK will do that together
It's the octurine. Let's see what BZMQ's up next instead of X
What else can you imagine possibly?
Now he backpacked the BKB, no big surprise, rapier, obviously an option, which he might
value higher than the AGS, nice, charge, just being annoying here Ari, getting information,
while one CK illusion is trying to do noticeable damage to Roshan, is failing to do so, doing
12 damage per hit, constant stream of these trance.
55 minutes in, I might get to that point, but with Roshan down,
and the real issue is they just don't have any of these towers up and running.
Continue to damage on these ranged barracks that will not heal.
What if you could buy a new barracks for 20,000 gold?
On like one hero or is it like a fund?
I guess you can only do it once, let's say.
Okay, but the team...
Oh, it has to be one hero.
One hero?
Yeah, one hero.
How often would that even happen?
Anyone getting 20k gold?
White one
Okay, well, the global silence comes out the brew will redirect his efforts. It's a big hold down though quite awkward to say the least
Well like speed has refreshers so with that game religion here in a fan time
33 gonna try to do something speed on the various
Outskirts of this fight. It's charged up
The wheel of one of its own about to be KB focusing all of that on the R.E.
Will live, just barely.
The Farpoon away.
Fave's getting hounded by these primal brulings.
Along with the CK illusions.
This is his team on the high ground.
Pop the anchor, smash.
With the track and shell as well.
That's the shot coming out.
Right turn is surrounding.
Can he use the wrap? Only up to one hero though.
That's one more.
Oh my god, I don't understand anything!
Clips destroys two right off the bat!
Three dead in the blink of an eye for one win,
as 33 does get up his primal split.
Another astral.
He'll have to walk away from RCY.
33 gonna do some damage in this building,
but actually quite a bit.
You'll have to rip through him.
BZM took the entire bottom lane.
Alright.
While this was happening.
Raph, no doubt.
Yup.
And when it gets mega creeps against a nature's profit, good luck.
The CK was always just a distraction.
Yeah, it's just a tanky distraction at this point.
Profit will do the necessary work.
Now, what is weird about this game is,
usually I say if you have megas and you have profit, you basically can't lose.
But, it's not easy for one win to end the game.
Even when they do get megas, because taking the team fight that's going to finish it off,
The game will even just wait for them?
I don't know.
Looking at how the two lineups interact,
they might need like 80 minutes to get there.
To a comfortable spot.
Maybe tier 5s are going to be enough to push them over.
It's also not a given.
Like perhaps they just win a fight and it's over.
But there's definitely the possibility for the radiant lineup to hold on for really really long in this game.
But obviously they would like to not get to that point in the first place.
Now big trance aren't giving them trouble.
Tomato will end set trouble with one swing does feel like it's just a matter of time. Yeah, it does
That's why I'm already thinking ahead because like realistically are you really going to be able to hold this?
And that's why I was also thinking ahead with a 20,000 gold melee. Yeah reconstruction. Yeah, and then you lose that one to profit
I guess it would have to be a fun
I mean 20 can of single here. I don't remember if I've ever seen that.
Of course we have.
In the game. Have you?
Yeah. I think several times actually.
Seeing a hero with 20,000 gold in their inventory.
Yeah. Okay, maybe not several times. Maybe like twice.
I remember making a big deal about it because they would not spend their gold.
Ah.
One of those situations.
Okay. They were hoping to get it by barracks I guess.
Right. They were ahead of their time.
Patch in the middle of the game.
Tide now has a heart, so he's tankier as well.
And really, this is the big one. Speed has 5k right now, and already has the refresher orb recipe.
Yeah, he could buy out, but then he won't have buyback. Actually, he would now, no? I think he can buy it.
I think it's close, right? Yeah, if he wants to.
Alright, oh that's hexed up. That's a lot of damage. If the Ravage comes out, right clicks are enough to model finishes the job.
Pay attention to this nature's profit.
Alright, that's that.
I think Double Global is a big deal.
It is.
Especially if you get killed, you buy back, you can still do it. I mean, it's a pretty safe bet.
According to the mouse over it says he has 3.7k surplus and the rest of the refresher cost 3.4 so
Saving grace for him is that's
Only you had a lich oh that would be really good now actually
for once your lich healing thing, no matter how there is the IZON problem.
Okay, so how many items do you have now?
Well, 8 items and an axe, and one shard, so 10.
So what's his ninth inventory item?
I mean, I would probably suggest buying a rapier and rethinking your inventory a bit.
I think back pack the octorine by rapier and then swap items out a little bit differently
What about just buying moon chart for spear breakers?
Yeah, you can do that too. I like that. That's the idea over CK of course. It brings me immense joy
Oh, they see BGM. This would be a big pick. Oh, they start with the banish instead of the head
and a CTN, trying to go for him, gets a bash,
they have a cancellation, they don't even need it.
They just rip right through him,
Tamato, God strength, God tier.
That was, the fact that that was close
because he didn't start with Hex is,
oof, hit the map though, I also paid the BTB off.
True, very important now, 61 minutes.
Let's see some tier fives.
He might've actually survived there
with a different inventory,
If he had the I have Scotty instead of the Mjolnir, maybe he lives.
That's a lot of health and armor.
I mean, he would have put that 100%, right?
Because he just barely died.
I don't know how much they overkilled him by.
All right.
So what are they hoping for?
So Deso for BZM, that's excellent.
That's literal best case scenario.
Yeah, what does CK have? Deso as well offered for him?
Clearly you don't go for that.
He might go for Fallen Sky.
It's actually kind of interesting.
It's really the only other option, if you like.
I can take Regalia, 20% more damage for a whopping 20%.
Zero times zero is still zero.
Or zero times 20, right?
Well, both statements are true. The first one was just made no sense, but yes.
that's not making sense right now what's zero divided by zero Shannon zero that's incorrect error
okay good that's spoken like a true calculator error or some auto did get the stigian as well
well. Book of the dead for 33 and more rat related stuff. Fallen Sky, Shad did end up
choosing. They went double deso on the radiant actually, that's surprising babe.
Don't mind it. I've talked about this before. You're not always hitting the same targets
And it's it's a feels good untied. I really don't mind it applying that to everyone is great
Of course wipes out creep waves like nothing and the big trance
That's good
Fighter likes for RCY
It's the
timeless enchantment as well
So have we looked a lot of level 30s so Sven is 30 profit is 30
should mention speed so his look at it that comes with a feverish so 15% CDR
pretty big deal as well yeah it does come at the expense of less max mana which
is actually kind of a concern here he has a cheese two globals back to back
costs him well 1500 and 25 and his monopolis 1506 so he actually needs it
he has enough without the cheese if he casts no other spells just with the
regeneration of refresher orb but it's very close oh my god he's going for the
wisdom is no way that's caught shad well grab that
the
shadows going for acts next so we get to see
all the illusions come out
for the issue of the group of the ripped through
might get to get
not able to get anything off
the
Don't find another in the form of white mon that was so close on the BKB overlap with TP that I think that was worth an attempt
But not quite
Still I get the kills. Did you mention the condo on CK by the way? I did not yep
So they have another break now for the tide. That is very cool rating that higher than silver
That was obviously another option you had now. This is way more reliable because you have two spells that can proc this
nine second cooldown
Interesting guess the inventory challenge by the way. Yeah overwhelming blink conda
Harpoon hard Lincoln's
For defensive items in a conda
And you can even argue overwhelming blink is like a hybrid so almost just like five defensive item
7000 HP
Because it's tier five has hit. This is a really good to your five. You mentioned that it has hundred fifteen movespeed and 40 strength
Finally did it. This is why you pick CK. Yeah, we talked about an early game. They actually get to see it. Very cool. Tomato
Well, he's going refresher first, and then I have a potential divine that's gonna weighs away, of course
They could charge me
He's looking to start with never strike. Oh tomato stuff moving. Okay. He's thinking he's getting baited. Yeah, they thought it was the case
I don't know, maybe.
I was gonna show himself, now I just assume, yeah.
He was actually doing quite a bit now.
You see the nature's profit holds,
trying to burn through Tomato's life.
Charge connects, there's the axle,
trying to save him, no, it's not even in time!
Oh, no!
He got pulled away by the reality rift out of range of the banished.
And that's a clover down as well!
That's huge for one win
You can tell that
Game religion is struggling with figuring out how to macro their lineup like how do we place our heroes relative to each other
Who's covering who who can take care of the big treants while we're also posing some sort of threat on the map like they're sending tomato out here
Kind of hoping to find some opportunity
It's not getting one
I mean tip roast is one
The pressure now on Tamato in his backpack.
Now who takes the stuff, Aegis on CK?
Just an even bigger distraction now, I guess.
Now he has two lives with 7k HP each.
What is BCM building?
Refresher.
Okay, so he's going to have the 9 plus aggs, that's 10 plus shard, 11.
11th and then we can count here plus moon chart 12 items pretty good yeah sure
wishing he was playing laundry right now that's true one way to try to force
this vibe I got a ton of circuit surely he has to put down the roach banner
though this is gonna be hard to defend they might just have to give us a
mega is why would they stop here is the real question
Check out the Hex on the BZM.
Marcy White, little bit of damage to get the Ravage Conquest.
Well, trying to burn through this.
Sanny's Eclipse goes out, it's not enough for the kill.
And then on Global Silence coming out as well.
There really no follow-up.
The Sanny is still not buying that.
Finally, 20 seconds to the spottoe by the back.
And with that, one win.
Mike just reset, although 33.
Youngest procs.
They get gone on now by the Sven.
Pops the BKB finally, but the guy strikes and it's over.
The other place is the Holden in place.
Shadown on the run.
Bay climbing ahead with all his might. There's a global silence just in time.
Tomato, BZM doing so much right click through Tomato, and that's the dieback for this FEN.
And that might just do it. This is going to be a tough defense overall now for Gamer Legion.
Now to 5 versus 4, not even counting this Aegis.
Triple kill for BZM, and the agent exposed.
Refresher into the ravage, hitting several heroes, but BZM gets hexed.
Directed damage from RC, while he's staying alive.
Sprout onto two.
And now BZM is farming them up, hitting that.
Lights to the back of the full HP.
Right with XB down, hit the fountain.
Spade.
Pop into the crack, it shows like it does nothing in this stage of the game.
I just hope some of the villains they really want break on the tight, are just melting now.
And that's going to be the ancient doubt.
Pop that fortification, but one, and they're going to even up this series a one to one.
That means we're going to a game number three, very exciting, almost 69 in a game.
Oh, that would have been nice.
He's in, falling over in his chair.
Or is he tying his shoe or is he collapsing?
Let's ask Richard what he thinks.
Yes, resident medical expert. No, IP and collapse a lot of Sun's Fam knows.
So, no, he's not doing either. I can assure you it was just a very stressful game for them,
But stressful and winning is a lot better than stressful and losing as long as you don't pee on collapse
You're good, but these guys they did such an excellent job
In this game yet. It was it was a really really crazy game
But you know, I got to say shad he pulled through this game just being the frontline tank
And you know going for the conda playing for the pick offs and just understanding that okay the star of the show
The true guy, you know, he's him. It's BZM. Yes, this guy
He's the who's that guy the
Bill gate
Like one of these billionaires it's kind of infinite gold. You know, whatever you want
I love the octarin core on natures to just send more trees and then slot in
The carry items after that
I think that was really genius knowing that the way they play the game is not by taking these five on five engagements
but rotting and making sure that they're only taking unfair fights.
Eventually it's going to come down to that.
You are playing against NP, level 25, level 30 at one point as well.
You have Bruce Split, you have CK that also wanted to pick up Aghanim at one point.
This global presence, try to go for a pick off constantly sending the Trianse.
It's just way too much.
And also, I got to be critical about what happened in the last fight right before the game ended.
Yeah, I the tomato he's after dying. I think he needs to buy back straight away
He wasn't even close to respawning 20 seconds. First of all, I think your chances if you
Get mega against these heroes you have like 1% chance to maybe win. Oh, it's maybe maybe it's even lower
It's devastating even having a racks down against natures profit if he gets to this point in the game where he has the buff treance
It's so difficult to
to try to do anything in the game.
You're forced back into your base.
And part of the problem was OD.
He had no way of clearing creeps.
The only hero that could really do anything about it
was Silencer.
Oh, not a Siren.
Silencer, yeah.
With the glaive, please.
No, it was Sven.
So, you know, one win did a really good job
at kind of baiting him around.
By the way, we'll look at a clip of it later,
but the way that Ari was using the planar pocket
on Spearbreaker was amazing.
He was actually preventing the Astral's
by using it on his team when they would go in.
Sometimes he would use it on enemies.
Sometimes he would use it on allies.
It was very impactful.
The more and more that I see playing her pocket
as an agonist card, it's really broken
in the hands of a good player.
They've seen it very effective against Doom,
specifically Doom being like highly contested hero.
We saw it in so many games, so many at playoffs as well.
How about, I'm looking at these damage numbers
and PCM, 83,000 damage coming out from his
the nation's profit compared to Shad, who did fulfill a bit of a different role in this one, who was sitting at 35,000, but yeah, BZM definitely the standout player of this match.
I also am a big fan of these, let's call them, slightly newer items. We are seeing relatively early AC. We saw that one in the previous series when Mag picked it up, and also Scotty.
We saw good amounts of Scotty's picked up on the storm spirit as well
It gives you insane amount of stats insane amount of tankiness and very good against these range heroes, especially OD does cripple him
People people are looking at Lornaff, right? Yeah, he would always go Scotty and every hero
But he went to Scotty's on storm spirit and in one match, you know, the stats are just way too good and speed stats being way too good
This is an accurate representation of the game
We have had some crazy series today where the gold graphs have looked like the grand canyon. It's
Incredible to watch
What a sight to behold. Yeah, I I don't know man game of legion
Speed has talked about how they're an emotional team
He has and I just think when you lose a game like that, you know, they were very much on top things seem to be going
Well, there are a couple of uh mistakes. I want to say
Whether Sven got caught out a little bit. It made it harder
to get back into the game, but even right at the end, I believed, I thought they were going to get
back into that game and it didn't happen, so it might be hard for them to reset from that one.
Yeah, for sure, but if we go a little bit back in time around the mid-game,
it might even be an early game considering how long this game was going, the difference between
two of them was definitely pretty big. And it looks a lot bigger, that's what she said, when
when you look at the actual graph of all of the other heroes because BZM was like 7k gold ahead of anyone
Yeah, he was not just destroying RCY in terms of net worth. I just thought it was fair to compare the two minutes
He was sure also destroying Shad who was the second most farmed in the game, right?
And tomorrow who also was second most farmed depending on which point in the game do you look at it was a really crazy
Back and forth game, but for the whole time BZM was on top and man he he cooked like he did not let it fall off
Oh, also, look, can I ask a little bit about this because we highlighted how Aussie White doesn't usually build the meat
Yeah, I was about to say the same thing
I think in this one knowing that their lineup is a little bit slower tight has no tower damage or two supports to
Absolutely nothing to the towers. So you need to play with the catapults
Sven also a hero that doesn't join early on up until a point where he gets at least like two items
So they needed something I think this is why he decided to switch things up considering that he wasn't picking up a meter hammer on
OD at all in every single game that he played so far so I think good pickup overall game lasted long
enough he did decide to sell it but uh yeah OD seems to be on a losing streak today yeah I talked
a little bit about some deaths on tomato I think we've got a 31 minute team fight one of those
occurs it's always so hard to remember with these crazy late game scenarios yeah sure uh yes this
is the this is the part where things were looking really good for gamer legion um tomato honestly
was flying really really well and he is able to use his harpoon to escape here. He has the blink
dagger up but then you can see that he's almost kind of toying with them a bit. I guarantee you
this guy didn't just not press blink because he didn't want it to look really cool. He wanted to
be the cool guys don't look at explosions but Ari was really quick with the cast on.
And then it leads into this. And then it leads into this and this is a like desperate situation.
Fade probably shouldn't even be pushing and showing in the mid lane. Anyway, go
on one win to take absolute advantage of this and they just continue pushing
forward and take out four heroes in what could have just been one mistake. So not
only was there the mistake from Tomato getting a little bit overconfident there
there's also his team they needed to double back and say okay we're gonna
chill like a lot of this games on Tomato and he's dead. Without Sven they
definitely don't have the damage to kill these heroes and in the later stages of
the game. 1W, they were very patient when it comes down to approaching some of these fights.
And in the end, they just prevailed. I'm a big fan of this Spirit Breaker pick that did come out
from them to counter the Sven because we've said it so many times so far, like throughout
Valakia, you need to have something that's going to be stunning this Sven. And they had Spirit
Breaker with two abilities. And then he also had the refresher in the end, refresher shot that he
He picked up from Roshan, he bounced him one more time with the ulti, so basically Sven
totally negated in terms of the damage and especially during his BKB time.
And last thing you want to look at, I'm guessing you picked this one, because it's minute
six.
Yes, yes I did.
I believe that's the planar pocket situation that we did have and you can also see that
they got slightly confused about what happened there and at this point of the game you could
I mean it might be a good time for the game to feel the enemy carry actually dealing the damage and then you see it and pop it and
It doesn't go off and then OD just nopes out
It's a pretty good counter. It is yeah the spirit breakers
I've been learned in a way that I would not have anticipated before seeing this game
So it's always great to learn something new indeed
So we hope game a legion are gonna learn something new for the deciding game. We'd like them to do it
We'd like the plucky underdogs to get through we are biased on the paddle, but after that game it might be hard for them
We'll see what happens after the break
It's poetry time that is right
I'm here with stayed from a gamer legion and we are going to put your riddle skills to the test
Have you ever written poetry for maybe a lady in your life fade?
No, I mean when I was like very very young. I like
It was called plagiarism poetry the impressive girl. That was it did it work
Alright, let's go!
I'm a shifty guy, my ulti makes a double. I can win games alone despite looking like a puddle. Who am I?
Uh, my ulti makes double... a hint?
M. Begins with M.
What are you thinking?
One more hint. I'm not going to mind blanking.
One more hint?
Morphling.
Alright, let's go. Next one, next one. We've got a little bit stuck there. It's built into yulz and solar crest for early game speed.
It's simply the best. What am I?
Wednesdays.
Wednesdays. Exactly correct. Let's go to the next one.
When this spell is cast, your health will drop, cuddle your friends to make it stop.
Flux?
Absolutely right. Yes, good job, good job. When it hits 25 and you're in need of a neutral for a mana-hungry hero,
this will be fruitful.
What am I?
Yes, exactly right.
Let's go. We're hitting our pace. I do a lot of damage around me and it makes me kind of lonely
I go by many names including disco. Let's try absolutely, right? Let's go
Unannoying spell an AOE inhibit hitting you on the head with a reverberating rivet
Hint so the hint F
One more hit name one more hint
To O's in there knowing spell knowing spell your last hint last hint
Frogs thumb. Yes, that's right. That's right. Let's go a minute left
It's one of the most bought items in the game without as many charges. Dota wouldn't feel the same. What am I?
Hint hint
Ending with C. One more hint. It's totally helpful one more
It's one of the most bought items in the game without its main charges
one more hint one more hint this one's really stumping magic one that's it magic
one let's go 43 seconds left two hints when I'm pressed my user becomes round
better attack fast before I hit the ground what am I hint hint beginning with
s impressed me my user becomes round better have the skip available if you
feel like it one more hit let's see it ending in a okay let's skip the skip
Let's skip all right. Let's go this item is based off a king that was you but wanted too much famous for his greed and his desire to touch
Hand of Midas. Yes, exactly. Let's go 10 seconds left. Let's see this fairies
Oh my god, right before battle take a long pass suddenly their spells just don't seem so tough
Whatever
I could I've done okay. Well, it's already showed but I
Wasn't sure if I could I wasn't sure if I could just like I
Like, not do anything?
Or just like, if the time is the hour, I'm like done, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we wouldn't have taken the answer.
Okay, so what's fun?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Um, do you think you would have got to Pipe of Insight at the end?
Probably not, I mean it was like two seconds.
No.
But still, overall, very, very good.
You got nine there.
Feeling good about that?
I felt pretty good.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean some of these are, were pretty hard.
Yeah, yeah, that's tough.
My strategy was pretty fine.
Yes, I would agree.
didn't get too stuck. The one you couldn't get, it was supernova.
Oh, the ball. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. I'm interested in how you got Dark Willow so quickly.
Just, I think it's a fairie, right? Yeah, yeah, just a fairie. Okay, one on the
copypasta part. You're also big name is a big Willow player,
so just in my head, I guess, already. Okay, big Willow. Enjoy it.
Yeah, all right, we won't read it too much into that. But, so thank you very much for
coming to play with me. I really appreciate it and good luck.
I'll lock you. Thank you.
All right talking about enjoyment there there wasn't a lot to enjoy for game a legion in that last game and
We're gonna see how much it affects their viewpoint their mentality
Whether or not they're gonna maybe go back to drafting some of the stuff they drafted earlier or if they're gonna keep up this
You know kind of fresh take pulling out some surprises
It seems like there's gonna be a couple of heroes that both of the teams are gonna be focusing on brew master being the big one
Potentially nature's profit that can't come out. I could also see Spirit Breaker
I think brew master just gets priority who ever doesn't have first pick at this one
It might get banned out unless teams feel like we can't get away
Potentially with doom nature's profit plus dazzle was the problem because our doom in the first game wasn't really getting too much out of the lane
that definitely agree with both of those heroes. Nature's profit, you could argue, is like higher priority because it's so infuriating to play against when you lose to it, you know, especially when you lose to it in this fashion.
I think that one win is probably more okay playing against it than game religion is right now, given how that last game went. It is just, it is really, really rough.
It's it's cool to see that in only a couple of days that a new meta is developing in front of us
And if you don't keep up with it, you're gonna get crushed absolutely crushed
I always think tournaments kind of have their own little
Hermetically sealed meta that evolves as well, you know, you see what people are playing
People are watching each other's games. So they know what to expect and they want to counter it
And you know, it's really fun because based on what we were seeing on day one compared what was seeing now
it's day of night. It really is. People try to make also Timbersaw a meta for a day. It didn't work
yesterday. Crazy day zero and four, but to go back to brewmaster point, both of the teams feel the
same way. They don't want to be, especially one win because they don't have the first pick in both
of the games. One win didn't have first pick available and now that they don't, they're going
to leave this hero away from potentially gamer legion snatching it. You can't, you can't leave
even Earth Spirit. I mean, you would need to take it, right, if for RCY. I don't think
you want to leave in BGM Earth Spirit, but then that means potentially Invoker is there.
A lot of teams have been really highly valuing Invoker bands and Ember. With the brew entering
into the mix for these top bands, you have some pretty broken heroes that are left.
Something's going to need to be left in the pool. I feel like we might be seeing Lone
kind of forgotten where people are going to be like oh we got to focus on this
things that are happening right now in this series that happened today never
mind I'm taking that back moon can't win them all dummy now I'm because I think
long druid is that type of a hero that if forgotten in game three it just does
so much like we've seen so many flawless long-drewed performances even
players that are not considered to be like long druid masters where
Your other four players are making the space for long druid then she shows up with two items starts hunting people down
Makes so many openings on the map and in the end they will ban out earth spirit
And that leaves the nygma in Wow
For one win
They could just take the natures profit here if they think that it's gonna be like very early contested
What about Voka?
Yeah, they can get in Voka. It also denies it from RCY who has been
Probably the best in Voka player that we've seen in this tournament. I
Would say Miku is better at the Sun Strikes, but he was getting destroyed in lane, right?
I told me the lucky so yeah, that's true
But it's been a while since we've seen this hero and is
Probably fades best hero in Dota
And it's been that way for a very long time. The guy has always been a big enigma player
Early enigma doesn't have that high win rate. It's sitting at
40% win rate when picked in the first phase
There's a reason why we don't see yet out of
Five picks and it is gonna be invoker. So I think the meta is gonna develop where they need to start thinking about these position
5's the all-plane setups for Sunstrike Bane being the one that I would consider
banning out not the best hero in the lane against Enigma so that could be one of
the issues as well but I could also see Spiritbreaker getting priority for
Gamer Legion this is not the hero that they played but pretty sure Big Numb has
this in his repertoire just to be able to bang it out.
And banning the Timbersaw, still putting some value on it.
You know, there's a reason that if you're at an 80% win rate in the group stage, it's
still very good if you can get it in a very good game for it.
So one win has pick out of phase.
I agree with you that they probably want something that can set up for the Sun Strikes, something
the concept of the sun strikes and is also potentially blocking some things for game
religion or that reveals nothing.
Like a Marana hoodwink.
These heroes are definitely good.
They played some interesting heroes as well, Nick's Assassin.
didn't win with it but we saw other teams Mira I believe he is sitting at three
out of three wins on next assassin could potentially be the hero they could
also take spirit breaker for themselves on 13 which I also wouldn't find it's a
BKB piercing interrupt for blockhole too which is really nice you can see the
gamer Legion already value taking that out of the pool with the Wyvern
it's also one of white mons best heroes currently that he's playing
Yeah, I'm a fan of either of those two heroes and
Honestly, SP plus enigma is a really good combo. So we also need to start thinking about
lane counters for enigma. There's gonna be I say tiny is
Probably my first pick
Sven does okay ish nothing too crazy
But I think tiny as a hero
This is something that the shad would play big fan of tiny plus invoker combination because of the lacquery on such like
Insane attack speed with such high base damage. It feels so good
If they don't take it here on one when I could see gamer lesion taking it for themselves and having to model play it
It's like a pretty good
Relatively active hero that can play with enigma, you know enigma like takes over some area of the map with idle ones
and you know pushing the lane and Tiny can come in and get kills there okay so
this is gonna be the counter better than silencer in a way where you need to get
close but you're also your impact is way better you're stabilizing the lane so we
might be seeing some other heroes for Shad that might not be as valuable early
on quite a lot of teamfights having fatal bonds plus invoker you're never
going to lack damage into team fights. We've not really seen the warlock work out too great though.
It does destroy enigma in the laning phase. And like you said, the black hole interrupts better
than silencer. And this is a generically good hero. I like seeing big num on this period.
It's probably his best hero currently.
Yeah, 20%, very good.
Yep.
They're the lower bracket.
I mean, they have a lot of losses.
They do.
I would have preferred if this was something else, maybe
like a Tusk, maybe like a Spiritbreaker as well.
I feel the value that they would get out of these heroes
would be way higher, their kill threat as well.
This is also a lane where if Warlock is out of position,
they could potentially grab it.
is also extra bit of sustain coming out for their safe lane so two healers from position five
this puts one win in an interesting predicament where they would have to carry nature's profit
if they want to deny it from gamer legion yeah they can't run it mid because of the invoker
that they already have obviously they have option to pick up axe plus one here it's great against
It's a setup for your invoker.
It's also potentially a BKB piercing tool later on against Enigma.
If you find a good angle unless Enigma is using it on top of himself.
I'm so curious as to what they do.
Like, in my experience, I never know what to do in this situation drafting.
It's such a hard place to be at where you had some sort of plan.
You see an obvious deny pick that will probably change your plan.
plan and you think can we work this in in a way that doesn't destroy the strategy that
we were planning for, you know, because game religion, they're dangling it right now. They're
saying, hey, pick the nature's profit. We just picked the dazzle and they're not, they're
not going to bite unless they want to run a four position nature's profit. But that
will be quite the deny pick. It's already not going to play it.
I'm down for Axe, I'm down for Darkseer in this one.
Darkseer, Sven and Vok... That's an insane combo.
If they want to go, like, if they want to proceed to another stage of the tournament with the style,
I don't think there's a better pick than Darkseer.
I was gonna say, you can Spearbreaker first.
I mean, it gets banned after seeing Spearbreaker.
If you're because they're probably feeling the same as us where Darkseer has this really low win rate
Eventually it gets battered into you that it's not that good and they go okay if it gets through and we have SB
Which is a good hero. It's done very well
They just won with it if the Darkseer gets through and they're allowed to have an SB Darkseer combo
Then they pick it
But I think if they Darkseer and they get Spirit Breaker banned
that's probably a bigger issue than the other way around because
Darkseer, the Spearbreaker looked so good, and it's good against Nature's Prophet as a hero.
You got a hero that's TPing globally around the map, he's going to show himself a lot,
and Spearbreaker can always charge him, cancel his TP through BKB, it's really good.
This was a great pick.
And if somehow Gamer Legion lets the Darkseer through, then you get a busted combo.
I think they have three good options for the game, not so much in the lane.
I think it's Axe, it's Darkseer, and it's Doom potentially that can come out.
We've seen the exact same matchup in game one.
It can be a little bit slower.
I would love to maybe see the setup that they can play for against the, like with
the Invoker to have the Sunstrike combo if they want to go death route.
Again, you're going to get harassed way too heavily by this Darkseer plus
nature's profit.
So, unless they want to play maybe a ranged off laner,
they do have Spirit Breaker position first.
I don't know if you try to beat it in lane.
I feel like you just go boots, SB, or like windlice, quelling,
something like that.
Maybe you don't need the quelling first.
But anyway, I think you play to cut the wave,
and you go for one of these melee's that you mentioned.
I love the axe suggestion.
It's really good setup for the sun strikes.
I guess the only issue is maybe you're lacking damage
in that early game, where maybe some of these other heroes provide the damage.
At late game, Sven Warlock, they have so much damage between these heroes, they don't need any damage.
But early game, there's a bit of an issue, which is why the DK band makes sense, that he would just never die.
It's too tanky.
I think a hero like a Void Spirit for RCY could work out well.
It's another strong laner against Invoker with the point in the simulate. You don't care about charge from spirit breaker
You can dodge most of the stuff as well. It gives you cash
It gives you backline jump as well because right now they don't have a hero that goes in
They have four range heroes, but somebody else needs to keep them busy
Yeah, they need a they need a gig of fat tank, which is also why the DK ban makes a lot of sense. I
I love this man as well, Dawnbreaker, not gonna say standard because we're not seeing it as
much but definitely a good hero to cancel the black hole, Stronglaner, it's a hero that
can't get out of Sprout easily.
It combos with SB as well, you can do the double global strategy with the SB triple
global strat.
On the Kes Band they banned the RCY mid Kes. Oh, he's happy about that
He's like I wasn't even thinking about it. I mean against Invoker. It is one of the highest win rate heroes
They go for the voids very good a call
like the remaining
Tanki
initiating
Really active guy from the mid lane. They needed one of these dudes to go in and get stuff done
I'm still down for either doom or axe for 33
Going through the hero list that he does play in his career
you just did it
And yes, they don't have much time left. They only have 15 seconds left. Oh
Really thinking about this doom
Yeah, 33
Oh my
They found a way how to slot in a ranged hero so that it doesn't get harassed as much.
Yeah, I mean, he's a hero that can press go shroud and walk away from all the physical damage coming out from Dazzle.
It's pretty decent at getting away from Dazzle. I will say though, like, Nekro is very slow.
There is a world where he dies once or twice in the early game and things get really rough for him.
But I've always thought that Necro is a perfect 33 hero.
Yeah, you get radiance and you literally just hit creeps.
You pull jungle camps together, you farm two camps at once, it's even better if you're farming a creep wave at the same time.
This is right in his wheelhouse, and if there's anything theoretically that's gonna do well against this crazy, dazzle nature's profit lane that's oppressing everybody,
It's Necro plus a front liner who can also wave cut which is the spearbreaker. So to me this makes a lot of sense
It's a it's a good pick for sure
They don't have any stun problems you have Sven so you're always gonna have that you have spirit breaker position for
When it comes down to rotations to the mid like this lineup can be a little bit slow
Necro doesn't really join these early fights if there's gonna be yeah, there are a lot of rotations
to the mid lane. There is also a nature's profit from the carrot roll that can TP to Invoker's lane
and try to play through that. Their supports are very good at rotating early on, leave Enigma to the
side so that he can farm. You're already playing the winning matchup of Void Spirit against Invoker.
I would love to see them putting the pressure onto that lane and try to play through the mid lane,
which is going to leave Necrophos in a situation where Thirdis is going to be like,
like, hey, good guys, it's all good.
I'm getting the farm, but the farm jungle.
But I think they should try the pressure of BZM's Invoker,
because he can definitely pop off in this game.
Just needs a little bit more time with the combo
that they have.
So I want to see Gamer Legion try to punish them.
All right, well, we'll see if they can.
I throw over to our commentator.
Is a throwback for you, Sun's fan,
because we've got a mushroom tip nature's profit in the game.
Mushroom tip.
I've never heard it put quite like that, but yes.
That usually is a bad omen, actually.
If you go back to the OG day,
Cinderan with Fails of the Week,
did you guys know that Cinderan was actually
part of Fails of the Week for a single episode?
It was the least liked episode of all time.
Debated deleting it,
but I thought it would hurt your feelings.
But thankfully your casting career worked out
so we didn't need you anymore.
That's good.
Thanks for that.
a little bit of always happen to get some lore.
Lore about yourself.
Learning something new every day.
And this is a shit-shaped up to be an interesting game,
number three, I would say.
Yeah, this is kind of the time of development.
You often see in a three-game series.
Now it's a clash of what the teams have discovered
about themselves throughout this series.
We're running the Dazzle Prophet back.
And now that they've faced that on the side of one win,
they're approaching it with a different idea here
with the Necrophos offline together with Spirit Breaker.
They're also finally picking Shad the Sven here
that I've been asking for.
He's going to be landing into Enigma,
so that should be a good carry versus Enigma matchup,
which is what you're generally looking for.
So I think some of the adjustments here
for the side of one win are quite good.
I'm a little bit worried about this Necrophos,
how well he actually holds up against the lane,
so I think that's what we're going to see.
I don't think he knows for a fact himself.
I don't think he cares, Sundarin.
He's gonna farm in the jungle eventually.
He'll be fine. It's 33 for God's sake.
Yeah, Necro can't jungle level 3.
We'll see. 33 can find a way.
Okay.
I have faith in him, Simran.
Oh, never mind.
Don't worry about it. Don't use logic here.
Nope. Not about that life.
Just focus on the BZM Sunstrike Tracker that we have going already.
Mhm.
Remember, I guess we should loop everybody in that was not watching that one game.
Would you like to describe what a performance that was and how Jenkins and the rest of the panel tried to defend I?
Believe he hit nine out of 36 Sun strikes so 25% and the panel's conclusion afterwards was he was using it for scouting a lot
Which was maybe five of them if even so yeah in his defense he could have been at like 30
I will say if the Sun Strikes that you're using to get range creeps counts then obviously
you know.
Yeah that counts as a miss that's fine but it's not that many.
It's not that many no.
It's not.
The thing is it wasn't that he was missing Sun Strikes it was that he was really missing
Sun Strikes on still targets consistently.
It was just like his first game of the day.
They won the game.
Yeah.
And in a way that's a flex. That's why this is more of a compliment for BZM than anything. We should keep bringing it up over and over
Beating that dead horse. That's an alive horse because they won
As we are in game three
Winner of this moves on and loser is out because one went already in the lower bracket
I don't think a lot of people would have guessed this would have been the case considering some of the teams having such big roster changes coming into this tournament
But they got a bit unlucky was to their own
was their own issue, I suppose, facing up against Yandex right away. Not exactly the best matchup.
Unfortunately.
But that's their own fault.
Yeah, they could have just knocked it 3-2.
That's right.
Yep. Tell SwissWorks, you battle this great buy, you're facing us the top seed.
Yandex absolutely looks like the team to beat this one.
are perhaps as we shall see in the future a level above everybody else
the only way to cast a game of this actually yeah the only other team that
hasn't lost a series is of course extreme gaming yeah it's only a matter of
time because you are have complimented them you're the Chinese curse yeah just
existing for you is cursing them yep all right nice blocks coming out from
tomato decent damage to Ari so speed back on his dazzle which we saw in game
number one was quite good Chad gonna avoid the brambles completely so big
num a little bit off the mark there bait on his enigma I mean these games have
been going relatively late so I kind of like just picking some late game monster
like Enigma. Kind of a weird hero that's great in lane and great late game.
Yeah, Enigma is a design that is effectively about can you counter it in lane if not the heroes first pick.
That's kind of where we're at. Eidolons are extremely powerful. The shard is incredibly good in games where the Eidolons are good.
Even if they aren't, you just use it for farming and obviously you are a late game monster.
So effectively, Enigma went from back in the day being this greedy investment that wasn't that strong early
And then you got the big payoff to just in the good games. It's just good in all phases
And it can buy different items. It doesn't have to go blink. You could be like it used to it can buy like tempo items with drums shard vessel
There's a lot of ways to find it. It's a very flexible and very strong
33 taking some serious damage here. We'll still be okay though playing without magic stick
Mind you on the necroforce until that arrives. He still doesn't have to go to windblades or the Sun strike
Does clip to motto about the fairy by the try to survive at the death post from 33 is enough to give first blood to the necro
He's gonna get a double on top of that didn't think that was gonna be enough actually, but that's that was part of the Sun strike
He's just absolutely everything it's beastly wait
The range creep counted he hit a hero with it too. Oh, he did. Yeah
Yeah, the Void Spirit was tanking it to try to dodge it this year.
I mean, how would you say the Sun Strike set-ups are this game?
Because I feel like with Spearbreaker, it can kind of be a bit inconsistent because if you get that extra bash?
Yeah, it's 100% reliable in all the instances that you don't attack between your charge and your ult.
But in the ones where you do, there's a chance.
As he's a Storm Hammer trying to get away, Shadow Work not enough to survive, fade.
They'll clean him up.
Yeah, this is a strong lane, Enigma willow, Sven.
It's tough to have a fighting chance, even with Warlock, like they've really tried to do something about these Idleons.
They've fatal bonds and great cleave, but still, in spite of all that fade is reigning supreme up here, for now.
So far in the mid lane, very even between RCY and EZM.
Bot lane again, the pressure on the speed gets bashed by Ari, no sun strike needed.
Absolute domination with bot lane.
Like he said, this lane is kind of working the opposite in favor of a gamer legion.
He was spent suffering the CS.
The motto is actually doing just fine despite that lane not going particularly well.
He's in the charge some strike will hit me and he drops down the Shaz right click
So for once the supports do not steal the kill from Shad
Finally remembering what it's like to be on any other team
I think the targeting in the center and punishing him for being the stand. It's a setup
This is a very good start for one window more connections being made big num
Caught by the ice wall and killed off another. It's time for Whitehawn.
A little surprise we're not seeing a little bit more spearbreaker picked. I feel like it's always
pretty impactful. Can you take a full wave from the dagger, but R8 is going to take out eventually
as RCY needs his first from Sun's Fenty V.
Good effort.
Ramble.
Pretty good damage onto Shad here.
He'll be okay.
He also has a healing salve to reset back up.
Tamato about to hit level 6.
We'll see if Gamer Legion has any big play plans with the rough nature.
It's going to be boots of travel first item for 33 by the way.
He's almost done with it.
Yeah, that's crazy farmed
This would be a huge kill all that money in a bank
With the bash he's the ghost shot to try to get away, but now he slowed up by speed
Like he'll find enough distance
So a bit mind-blown by the fact that 33 is playing without magic stick in this lane
Yeah, go shroud you're playing against dazzle and profit that are casting quite a lot of spells
can't help but feel like surely that's better than a
circlet. Well, he wants to rush the boots, Cinderan,
hunt it away. Well, he could have not bought two
circlets, I guess. Even in his starting builders, I
just, I don't know, I feel like it was worth
considering, but he's getting away with it, so.
Why there's no ground for nature. All right, Fade,
cleans him up. Now, in the sprout, we'll take a
Malifest and he's surrounded and killed off as well.
It was just a matter of time before they were just
You're just gonna leave bottom and go and win somewhere else, right?
The classic profit play, if your lane isn't going fantastically well, you can always just combine with the others
and this is going to be the enemy safe lane tower taken out.
And the challenge in this game for one win is going to be to prevent this from happening too much.
Like their lineup is inherently slow.
Sven, Invoker, and Necrophos, talk about a greedy tricor.
Now, Travels on Necro will help him connect to some plays if he wants to.
Yes, I would say this is less greedy than the alternative.
Short of charge in history.
Targets into a bramble, looking for ropes to deny, not gonna happen.
RCY picks it up, along with the damage rune as well.
That's nice.
Yeah, boosts the travel, and now the one comes up.
Gonna get your wish from 33.
That's a mandatory item on this hero. You can't, you can never.
There's a few years in Dota where I feel like we can skip stick. This is just not one of them.
Absolutely no shot.
Into the jungle he goes for a bit. 33's favorite part of the patch.
Ever since we had the big map he loves having two homes. One is the lane and one is this.
He's a bit too short on mana right now for a death post though.
I wonder if he even wants to stack anything.
Well, if he wanted to he failed, so...
I see why. A lot of damage already, this tier 1 mid.
He used that damage, and Spirit Bessel is going to be the first item for him, no big surprise.
Are you expecting...Manta, what are you expecting out of the Void Spirit?
Anything different than what we're normally seeing?
I think he should just go very offensive items, maybe one...
Maybe a UL against Spirit Breaker.
Spirit Breaker and Necro. Yeah, Ghouls is good.
There is an alternative build path where you get Lincolns.
So you cover your bases against Spirit Breaker in particular.
Reaper. Reaper site, not good enough for the kill.
Okay, likely to still fall to Shad. First cat a hopper on it in the game.
Onto Tamato, we'll get Graved. Garde is coming.
We cancel it on the Storm Hammer. Nice two kills for one win.
Looking for a third of the form of speed.
We'll get it.
Lots of action again. I mean, I have to say,
Game 1 was a complete understomp for Gamer Legion.
The next game and this so far have been action-packed.
Love to see it.
Yep, definitely improving as the series progresses R1 when they need it to.
33 will return to bottom.
How good of a net pro game is this?
It feels quite good.
Once he gets to especially heart because the types or how to say the damage that the radiant has
Unless voidsberg gets really far. It's actually not that bursty
Profit needs time to wind up all the attacks voidsbergs is okay, but nothing
crazy unless you're farmed so
Think 33 if he gets there can become a real threat
Sven we've seen enough to know what he's gonna do
you.
He's at a charge.
Ooh, Maliface.
Ooh, nice.
All right.
Good angle there from on.
Indeed.
Very, very nice.
He's pretty farmed, by the way.
He's got Tranks, Drums at 10 minutes.
They're in a corner.
Okay, killed off.
It's going for Radius next.
I wasn't listening to what you said, so I missed it.
That's good.
I'm just laughing at myself.
Let's hear it.
I had a Nigma select.
I was like, wow, this Spirit Rig has Tranks, Drums.
He's got...
Oh.
He's got Tranks, Drums.
He's got Tranks, Drums.
He's got Tranks, Drums.
He's got Tranks, Drums.
as Trunks drums. He's gone. I'm like, that doesn't line up with his network. Yeah, so I was also surprised
he was going to buy those items actually in this game, but couldn't make a case for it. But yeah,
the standard build will be his phase boots into probably, I'm assuming, just going to be a shadow
blade as usual. Meteor Hammer completed for EZM as another charge will connect. This one's going to
How positive it looks like.
And I think all that's edible damage.
Healing up thanks to the shadow work.
And he used the Reaper Siphon to big him.
Did require quite a few...
He piece from one win is alright.
Just barely get out.
33 with the boots of travel.
1300 into his...
Radiance to come.
And for the first time in what feels like a while,
Shad is about to be top net worth in the game.
That has not really been the story in most of Onewin's recent games, but this time around,
setting up the lanes the way they did and making sure he has a decent amount of space
has definitely helped him keep mine.
He still has two deaths, so it's not like this is a flawless Sven game by any means,
but it's good enough.
It was a hard lane.
And this time he has a hero that can be used.
And it seems like Moon is listening to you last game.
Yep.
Did recommend the Sven for them.
That's a wise, I'd say very clever things.
You pay attention which you don't but the audience might learn a thing or two. You're of course beyond saving
Thank you. You did listen to that one though. You like the insults the rest is whatever
You know only thing that matters is the insults. Yeah, that's moon for a little cut of that prize pool
Give me a little tips here and there. Yeah, truly
Genius genius suggestion pick the best carry of the tournament right at least one of them
What do you think is better advice picks then or don't pick CK?
Yeah, probably don't pick CK. Then they might pick something really bad.
50% win rate though. It's better than darks here officially.
Charge. RCY.
It's on strike.
Oh, nice.
They were ready for this.
That's what they're going to do as well.
Yeah, good job, R is going to be the first to follow the trade, I'd say that the grave actually prevents the reaper site.
And they heal up a bit as well.
Looks to be okay.
I'm actually going to live here.
Yep.
BZM is going to take a spear missile.
Aether remnant not going to hit.
All is good.
He walks into it afterwards, the monitor shows up as well.
And BZM with a poison touch will fall.
Oops.
That is a big kill that should probably not have happened in favor of gamer legion.
He's trying to overthink it.
Yeah.
Now, a Naefah with a blink can ramp up that aggression.
That's how they want to play with this profit lineup.
They want to keep running at one when leaving them uncomfortable
and not letting them just find the farm on their cores.
Now, this is where in game number one,
it was already almost over.
And this is definitely not the case this time.
You have way more of an ability to punch back.
But it's made no mistake.
This is still the type of game that you can accelerate
really, really quickly with the radiant lineup.
If everything clicks and you make the right moves
These games kind of TP bottom like a jump immediately. No
Not quite in range RCY looks like you'll find already though
You say that and you'd be correct. Yeah, that's right great work Cinder and man really good at this
looks like they're gonna end up with a double yields at some point with a dark willow and
I assume RC white go this just way too good this game.
We're gonna buy the shard first which is... yeah, it's down for me.
Take that, look at the offensive easter against the spear breaker for bulldozer.
Shet, shet, shet.
The dangerous top.
This is not his area.
I mean, you've got to farm somewhere. 33 is taking the bot area, right? You can't give everybody everything.
Actually, at this point, it's BZM that's farming the sidecamps there, but yeah.
Like, you were pointing out, either it was earlier this game or in Game 2, that you're not really offering him all that much protection a lot of the time.
They should arm hands.
My mon gets destroyed. Let's go through the yules again, Cinder.
And so, it takes off Ghost Shroud, takes off Bulldoze, takes off Fatal Bonds, takes off Warcry, takes off...
Half of the Ghost's spells.
...and definitely Blast.
He is curing it up, don't worry.
It's...
I can't remember the last night. I've seen such a crazy yule skin for a hero that already wants to buy it.
He's off R pretty easily, with the help of fate of course.
Things are starting to look quite a bit better now for Gamer Legion after, I want to say,
a little span there with some bad fights.
Now they're back in the driver's seat.
Still 33 now has the relic.
His hero is not strong at all yet.
HP nothing to write home about so challenge here again is to just not
let him get there showing now this spell so much to finish the job all right I
was not expecting that last burst wrath of nature and beblem on top of ghost
shroud is a lot of damage it takes 20% additional magic damage during the
entire shroud so wills us thank you very much
that's true and snipes that kill with the profit
has a second relic does thirty three
if this box your two false is actually really important because that gives them
a way better access point to the right most camps and the triangle both of
which are
very necessary for one wins line up to function here
they could somehow get another pic down there and then get the big reward that
would make a huge difference
some strike
for scouting purposes I'm sure
course
according to
genius also in the panel
and Jenkins
but here's a genius
maybe you're being sarcastic that they were geniuses so then
you're counteracting the sarcasm
by saying he's actually a genius
no I don't see
You can't see layers because you are a robot.
That makes sense too.
You can't see layers.
Oh, bottom lane. Big num. Ready to mount a defense together with Fade.
They're actually just going to straight up. Go for 33. Same play again.
It is. Is it enough damage again?
Oh, it is.
Absolutely. Wow.
Nobody near to cover.
And now Shen!
What is this?
I don't know, but he gets terrorized and he should be terrorized, because he died again.
No, aren't? Okay.
That player just dropping like flies. Domino effect.
Oh my god.
Double kill for RCY. He's 7 and 0.
And the sad thing about this for one win is...
33 has been kinda close to this...
Radiance for quite a while now. It's just setting him back again and again.
Yeah.
Gamer legion are finding the moves and getting the initiative, leveraging the profitability
for these kills onto the Necro.
Gonna see the replay here.
So look at the relative positioning of the dire lineup, right?
Warlock and Sven are far off to the south, 33 is completely alone out here, Spiritbreaker
nowhere to be seen until it's too late.
That almost felt like a bait but not really kind of situation.
religion just they'll take the fades and get free kills.
Now we see a God strike though. Into the Nether Strike, speed will die as a result.
I'm sure you alls now for RCY.
And what is next on the menu for him? Nothing queued up yet.
And Nekoma wants to get through some fairing it looks like.
Um...
I wouldn't mind a Karazma.
Ultra aggro. I think considering you have jewels as a layer of defense against a lot of stuff here
I think you can go aggressive acts is also fine into a necro into invoker very strong to have the a v
Silence. Oh man. What a chaotic off and coming off a white mod onto that tier one tower
It's a pretty damn hard. It's gonna pay the ultimate price though
It's the tower for his life
Your life for ire
showing your age there what unit said that is that that is that I mean it's
unit in starcraft 1 which I never played I never played no I was wrong with you
babe I think we have seen a black hole yet nope as it needed it
The Aedlan is doing work. BZM is going to get some help.
You know, R8 actually is going to collapse in on this with the Reaper side. It's enough.
33 showing off that radiance now and that's way to the wraps in addition.
That's Fade's turn to just be completely fragmented from everyone on the right-hand side and go for aggression.
Did not pay off as you saw onto the invoker. Maybe he was counting on Tomato to TP in and look for a kill, but
But so far up on the map with no enemy heroes in sight might be a little bit too crazy.
Now BZM will push the other way.
Bignum already setting up.
Will be spotted now, I think.
Yep, they did see him.
You're one pretty damn healthy still.
RCY is going to show up to clean up the creeps.
Yule's almost done for big num now.
So it will be the Agni-Septic looks like for the Void Spirit.
You know what the Void Spirit shard looks like?
What?
Do you think RCY can read it?
What? Read it?
It's a clock.
He's a teenager, you know what that means.
Let me look this up, RCY, he's 20.
Okay, he made it.
Just barely.
20 in June.
So he can read a clock is what you're saying?
Yeah.
Anyone below 20 cannot, and anyone above can.
Yeah, I'd say that's pretty fair.
there. Interesting theory. Are you surprised, Cinder and RCY? Maybe it'll be a topic of history
in the future. Oh, there's going to be a lot of topics of history about this arrow right now.
Primarily about the clock though. That's just a side note.
Like Lincoln's is his choice
Shad
Looks like the harpoon is next for him.
Actually, no.
It's the BKB and then the harpoon.
Quietly while this is happening, Tamato is dwarfing every other hero.
He has a nullifier already, so he wants to counter this Necro.
Good against Spirit Breakner too.
Not bad.
He has so many dispels now.
Just a matter of finding the opening.
That's all they need.
They have really good jump between the void spirit and the willow.
They have double yules, Enigma has blink boots of bearing.
They have all these tempo heroes.
Just gotta make it click, just gotta connect.
And you bet one win are uninterested in confrontation.
They never passing in if they just get to creeps.
That's probably what the comms are like.
Some strikes on a scout this, I don't know if they're okay, they're gonna charge.
See how this develops. I would be surprised if he commits. He has Yule on the Void Spirit so
I think he's gonna let them have it. They had a good 40 seconds almost to get over here or 30 seconds but
Oh, pretty close!
Double health from BZM.
That's two more missed sun strikes for the tally.
That was half a second away from stealing the Roche kill, at least.
Which maybe not that consequential, I guess.
Oh, right. Monk Linkdagger.
See you later.
That was close to materializing.
Thumbs up, Cinderant.
Thank you.
thumbs up to you about halfway there
hey I can on the BKB pike for profit 52-48 how do you feel about that
uh in terms of like just overall game state probably fair with how the teams
have been playing the game so far maybe we would lean slightly more in the
radiant direction but again 33 specialties in the teams that he's played in
really good at playing keep away when necessary which is the case so as long as
he keeps farming together with his boys eventually this game will be probably
easier a bit down the down the stretch but it's by no means a guaranteed win
even late game like profit void spirit is really strong with a lot of items
Enigma the supports on the radiant also high-impact late game supports, so I don't think game religion necessarily a feeling the pressure
But at the same time, I don't think they're applying as much as they could
Now they have the ages that's gonna inspire some confidence in them to motto
We'll take the mid tier 2
As a negma, it's just waiting up top for somebody to show nobody even remotely close to the spell, so you'll just keep pushing.
One tier two remains. If it's Aegis, you'd think that they will secure that.
Not sure if they can really go high ground though.
Maybe a little poke here and there, but without the Roche banner, feels like that's almost it.
That's actually weird to say. So many years without that item.
him. It's like you can't go high ground at least like the first push without the
Roche banner. It can be pretty difficult depending on matchups you know. If Roche
banner was actually available after the first Roche, how do you think that would
change things? Not much. I think it'll be fine. You think that you still wouldn't go
high ground until number two? I mean you would get it so early that I don't know
I don't know if you would be ready to high ground anyway.
Should just be hoarding the...
Which is what they did when they came out.
They were just stacking banners in their inventory
and wondering what to use them for.
Then they figured out they could use them as wards.
So that was cool.
The vision was very strong for a brief moment in time.
Shad, smoke broke on him, but he is going the right way.
In the meantime, Fade is looking for BZM.
He'll find him!
First black hole, the game if I'm not mistaken, 27 minutes in.
This is once again the challenge here is one win, one to farm all three cores and you kind of need to hedge your bets, a spirit breaker.
Who do you sit behind and try to protect because you're sure not making any aggressive moves yourself
Which feels awful when you're playing spirit breaker, but he's not been trying to go on anyone for seemingly 10 minutes
Wow, waiting
Vanta
Okay, pretty good item on Necro good against willow good against vessel
You say this is consistently purchased. Yeah, it's pretty common on Necro
You can't after it. It's not I got cast so many. I've never seen it. It's pretty common
I mean, it's a man to sure. It's like arguably in a lot of cases to better load us
Because you get the split push value of being able to send illusions
The storm hammer connection on to tomorrow. Oh, that was damaged the force. I think with the right side
No, it's not ages is it not?
So as the ages for 40 class, we're gonna burn like number one RCY
It's A-Tos though into the chart, he loses the clear,
and then a fair right on the three heroes, and now Chad,
stuck inside this round, is dead.
Ari, natural step hits.
You go for that chaotic offering, it seems.
He's going to take out to that shadow poison.
That's fate.
Not able to apply too much more pressure.
Running out of mana is 33 with death pulse to the high ground.
So two dead in favor of game of legion.
He's getting a potential third, Reaper Scythe though.
Not quite enough to kill up RCY.
It's off the yields as well.
Can he live?
Sunstrike gonna hit onto the dark willow instead
With that I believe gamer leeching in the back away game remember Marcy white is seven and oh, so this is a lot of money
Okay, I will be able to pick them off
Got a question that play call from one win right you still there's a minute left on the ages
You're still not that strong
You've dodged fight successfully for like 10 minutes and then you pick one when the ages is still running for another minute instead of
I know you would have sacrificed that tower, but this was way worse
because now you let them get value out of the ages that they were otherwise not
going to the map is shrinking all six outer towers are gone for one win now
you have a PKB indeed they have two cancels between golem and spirit
break rule see I guess three we've been count charge this is just this fight
already looks really bad right like you've got you've used God strength PKB on
and Sven, you've shown all five of your heroes just to take the Aegis, and you're in a completely
open space where the enemy can just connect all of their spells.
I feel like they kind of got baited into taking this fight because Blackhole's on cooldown,
but that's...
I don't think that's important enough with how weak your lineup is relatively speaking
right now.
At the same time though, you don't want to wait forever, and Auri is probably falling
asleep at the keyboard.
Like spirit breaker in a game like this is so boring
Almost got RC wild like you said that would have been nice pickup
But are you to die in line again? So you want more for it now? BZM? I see this BKB
God strength
Beautifully done get the hypnotized now on to the spend at half HP
They are on the web that not the projection is very annoying. TP's out. Oh the black hole is too late
8. Can it continue for the style points on the creeps? They do find a connection on the 33, which is also a substantial kill for Gamer Legion.
Man, was that close. Still good enough though. Killing the Necro forcing Sven BKB again.
We must have been talking out less than half a second off, right, on the Sven? Maybe even less than a quarter? Maybe we'll get that in slow motion.
Seek just how close we were dealing with so
Oh my god, that's like a test of the second
Fast time attack
Whatever
Shaz gets killed
Let's kill him on the other side of the map
No problem
Who kills?
Black Bull not wasted after all
R.C.Y. very aggressively postured
Not really fearing anything right now
Tomorrow
Thinking the same thing
We can siege now
Two enemy cores are dead
We have Idle on to the trans
And this is a quick push is good to go fortification comes out
Well know about Russian 10 seconds
I'm gonna get the tower like the back away here
Game religion keeping the pressure on Daedalus now for tomorrow
Oh, yeah, he does it pretty hard.
He does it pretty hard.
Oh, BOTOMOTY!
He's already got 2k as well into a satanic.
Geez, he is.
He's donkulous.
I feel like every time I see this hero played, I just don't understand.
It's not rated higher.
Like, profit is just so good.
Like, what's even, what's good against him?
There's certain offline heroes that can run at him really quickly in the lane.
You can see his win rate overall isn't actually that impressive,
but I don't know what role distribution this is.
Some of the nightmare matchups is something like Dawnbreaker, you know, heroes that just get on top of you as the offlaner and actually kill you.
She also matches his global presence, so it's a really nice matchup.
Primal Beast, another example of a hero that can be difficult to deal with in lane.
And a carry-to-carry matchup.
A lot of the time, even matchups you would consider bad for profit, he can actually win just because he has more gold.
You can itemize your way out of most issues.
You win most lanes, especially if you have Dazzle, I think if you plant Dawnbreaker into
Profit Dazzle, with the right 4 you could probably still win that lane actually, but pretty strong.
An interesting comparison here, Shad has not really hit much.
Unsurprisingly though, that's not really, it's kind of how their line of works, they
haven't been able to do all that much yet, and when they've tried it's failed.
It wraps now for 33, another defensive item.
If this move goes wrong, it looks real bad for one win and that's a long wraparound,
hoping to find probably the dazzle to start or the enigma.
Coming up empty unless Tomato runs into them.
Yeah, smoke ends up ending.
Ends up ending indeed.
It ends up ending.
for BZM so another smoke to the trans see that sure gonna be a smoke on the
other side now they might collide second roaches up paid as you go with the
black hole you're just right here okay cable blink get some information chat
again with the shield rune as Roche will belch
they don't hire get the balance on the white one we'd love to blow him up before the chaotic
conflict comes out it will do so had to buy back but we'll use it meanwhile white
one spirit breaker rather just gets destroyed and look at the damage on the
shat he's just gonna die inside his bkb or to use the god strength as well at
33 left alone
The nullifier will rip them a new one as well double kill for tomato and
One when they lose three no buybacks. This should be another Roche. It was four
And they might lose the fourth one a second time
Still
Not much use here
Dive back 70 seconds. Now a Satanic 4-Tamato RCY leading the way with 10-0 scoreline. Disgusting display from GamerLegion now with an enormous 20K lead.
I believe this would be GamerLegion's highest placement at this event.
Now they're likely BZM's gonna get Black Hole R and can he cancel it? No, he's Malifest.
They get the kill onto the Invoker, attempting to run away with a double kill for Ta-Tamano,
brings the cow down and out.
And this is gonna be several sets of barracks.
Well, that's only three to choose from.
I mean, that's several.
Yeah, but as you're saying, they're getting megas.
In other words, I think you're right.
They push pretty fast, and this is done and dusted, I do believe 33 showing himself.
They can just play it safe if they want, just get these buildings.
Get the Eul's connection into the Bramble, into the Silents.
Chat trying to help out 33, but he just dies.
And they're gonna get another kill onto the Sven, and that should do it.
GG's called.
Gamer Legion, absolutely destroying Game 1 and 3.
I think we've won in this tournament in one way and are out.
And you could have definitely made a case that Gamerly could have also won Game 2, so overall, across this series, the deserving victor here, they were just better today.
I really like the drafts in Game 1 and 3. I think playing this way is a greater way for them to have a chance against some of the higher echelon teams too here.
Play tempo, be early and aggressive, and, well, work for them twice today.
and he's back Richard.
To you in the green room Sun Sun.
Yes, I'm very happy for game religion. You know, we showed our bias. We wore our bias on our sleeve.
It was a big revenge game for them. We set that up at the start of the series and
We were worried, you know, like after a game like game two
Are they gonna be able to reset historically the answer that has been no, but today this is dominance. Yeah
They came well prepared. I like the confidence from the coach coming out in the first game after saying we're gonna run them over.
Bounty Hunter is gonna be the key factor in this one and it really shows. This is what we wanted to see.
They were very surprised to see how many times both them and Navi came close to getting the top eight.
And finally they get into these playoffs and they get to go even further in the tournament.
And kind of with the style I gotta say because today they were just a better team.
I agree this to me is the to motto difference. I love this team with him on it
I mean big shout outs to ghost obviously we're big fans of him here
But this just feels like it synergizes like Cinder and was saying the early tempo that they can bring in some of these games
It's hard to match, you know and when you're going against a team like one win where even when they're informed
They're not really a tempo team. They're gonna play greedy the match up looks honestly
really really rough for one win and it's not an easy thing to pull off by any means. It is much
easier to just be afk informed. Yeah and just to add to that I mean we've talked a lot about how
one win yes they've got that stand in, yes they would feel better obviously with pure being here
but I mean that wasn't the fact that in this game and you know ultimately I think yeah they were
second best for most of today. Yeah they had a lot of other issues as well especially the one
Like we said, they're going to be playing through the mid lane, playing through RCY,
and he definitely delivered. He ended that game with 10-0 and 14-0.
Tobado as well. I really liked his atomization coming out, picking up the early nullifier,
making sure that there is not going to be Warcry, there is not going to be
so many annoying things coming out from Spiritbreaker from Necrophos as well,
making sure that all these spells are going to go through once they connect onto the hero.
And we saw in the end how much damage he's actually going to be able to deal.
But RCY has been the shining star, not dying a single time,
making sure that every kind of gank connects.
He has been involved in 70% of the kills,
because we had a relatively good amount of kills early on that...
Sorry, Void Spirit can't really match.
And it is pretty impressive, considering what he was playing into,
but also opted to go for a slightly more aggressive.
He did have Basil behind him,
just to make sure that in case he gets in trouble, we saw how effective Dazzle is as well playing
against this Reaper site where you can't really use it straight away. So very difficult game for him.
Yeah, it's nice to see R.C.Y. popping off. And the meta is good for him. It's a lot of these heroes
where we talk about this word a lot, skill expression, two words. And he's the type of guy
that does so well under pressure. So it's really nice to see that his team is able to give him that.
Yeah, well, good news. We can go over to Nomad and he's with ya boy speed
I am indeed Richard. Yeah, I mean huge congratulations. This must be a pretty big win for you guys, especially after the international
Yeah, I mean this is our best placement yet and we beat a really good team to get here
So I think we're all stoked for sure
Was there any extra motivation facing against the team which took you out of ti?
uh
I don't think necessarily, I think mostly we just kind of focus on like how good we're playing.
And today I'm like really glad that we just played really good. I think game one and game three we
just had drafts we're really comfortable with and we really executed. So like that's what matters
most to me I think yeah. Yeah and did it feel differently to games you've had previously in
this tournament? Yeah for sure. I think we just worked out a lot of kinks. I also talked with
with Tomato last night about gameplay,
told me what I could do better,
and I tried it today.
Also had to talk with the coach, same thing.
For me personally, and yeah, I think,
I don't know, I think our heroes
just like mesh really well today.
We played a lot of comfort, good stuff.
You've had a few games now with Tomato.
How was that relationship kind of developing
and what's he like as a teammate?
Yeah, he's great.
I mean, not much to say.
Funny enough, he doesn't even have to talk much in the game.
He's super chill, he kind of distrusts us,
which I think is really awesome.
He really trusts Bignum to make the calls.
He trusts Arcea White to carry the game.
Vade's been mega popping off on his heroes.
I'm chilling.
I tend to win the lane.
Except today, I kind of play Shin-Milay, whatever, whatever.
But nah, he's great.
Tomorrow's great.
Knows a lot, teaches me a lot.
I'm just like listening to him, honestly, and learning a lot.
Well, you had some incredible games here.
I do want to go back to that first game.
You guys really ran them over.
Like, where did that come from?
What caused that sort of momentum shift from you guys?
I think it's mostly our heroes.
I think bounty hunter, you know, we have this bounty brulane, they win their lane, they have a disruptor from behind this hero really struggles from that position.
We have this NP Dazzle, also a good lane. I don't know we had mid, RCO has probably just afk or something, but yeah, we're just, I don't know, we kind of have like some of the fastest base heroes in the game.
And if you lose lane against these heroes, it's just going to be hard. Like bounty sees you everywhere, MP can TP, Dazzle can save if you ever tried to make a go.
It's just going to be hard, and brumasters like just runs around, you know.
Is there anyone on the team who, you know, it's possible that they may overcook in games
where you're doing this well and be like, yeah, let's go, let's go on to the high ground?
And is there anybody else who's maybe pushing their brakes, perhaps?
Who's overcooking?
I don't know, probably Bignum, but like, he makes most of the calls, right?
So sometimes you're just going to overcook, but we need him to overcook sometimes, right?
If he's going to lead the team, it's just going to happen.
So yeah.
Who reels in there?
I don't know.
Everyone, I guess.
I have no idea.
It's a team at that always of course well big win here today
Your next matchup will be against either extreme or LGD. Do you have any preferences there on who you'd rather face?
I want to play LGD again. I think we had some bad heroes against them to be honest
I feel like they had too much comfort
We had some weird stuff that I don't think we're that good at so I don't think that series is indicative
How good we are in relation to them. So yeah, I'd like to try again. All right. Well very well play congratulations again on your win
speed. Good luck in the tournament.
Always excellently spoken and I like it. I like that attitude. I mean, I agree. I think, you know,
having played LGD and maybe not given a good account of themselves. What do you mean from me?
So we had some not so good heroes and we're sort of picking into that prescribed wisdom,
which has subsequently changed. And obviously now I think they have a much better handle
on what works for them. I think they got the way better understanding of what was working out
And what wasn't the group stage and when it comes down to play us seems like they found her own groove
I'm gonna respectfully disagree with them as a big speed fan watching his videos. I know that they care about
beating one way
I know that but he's in game mode like he's in the zone, you know, he wants to play objectively
He wants to win the whole thing. So he's got to think like that. So I respect that. Yeah, we call that bullshit
Yeah, he's a good bullshit. Yeah, good American. Absolutely. Anyway, thanks guys been great hanging out
and it's been great to have you all here and make sure you don't go anywhere. We're swapping out the morning crew
but there's going to be more great Dota after the break.
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making from LGD and we're gonna find out how well he knows his riddles. Do you
like riddles? Do you like poetry? I mean I do like puzzles and riddles so let's get
started. Alright that sounds like a positive sign. Your first one's actually
a yes to that by the way so that's a good start. Let's get into it. Basically
this is Dota Letters and we are going to be giving you a little rhyme and it's
going to allude to either a Dota Hero, a Dota Item or a Dota Spell and you need
tell me which one that is. You will see some letters on your screen. If you want to see
those letters revealed to you, then you can ask for a hint. You have 10 of those to use
throughout the game, three on each question and one skip.
I just need to say the words, right? That I think it's suggesting.
Yeah, yeah, you just say whatever hero or what.
Hero spells, lore or something.
Yeah, yeah, I think you'll get it as we get into it. Are you ready?
Yes, let's get started.
All right, let's go.
When you're trying to run, this spell makes you stuck.
Without a dispel, you'll be cooked like a duck.
What am I?
Hint.
Yes.
Searing chains.
Yes, exactly right. Let's go on to the next one.
When I get into trouble and need health and a hurry,
just press this button and grow big and furry.
Grow big and furry.
I'll help you out. This one is a spell.
When I get in trouble and need health in a hurry, press this button and grow big in a hurry.
Time walk? No.
What is it?
Oh, do you want another hint? Yeah. Yeah, let's go for a second hint.
You've played against this hero a lot recently. You don't know it, you do have your skip.
Grow big and furry. What makes you turn big and furry?
I was thinking of Ursa and Rage, but I don't know what I don't know.
No, you don't know it.
You want to skip?
I'll use a 13.
I'm already used so many hints.
All right, third hint.
Third hint.
Let's see if it helps us.
Treat.
Try.
Fudge.
Skip.
Skip it.
Skip it.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
uh oh god man i dropped yes exactly right let's go let's go we got some answers to pick up here
built by necro alcon lastila are you on too long yes exactly right that did not take you long
come on let's go this item closes that gap between those between those you hate used by fishermen
of all to put big fish on your plate exactly right let's go to the next one i'm the biggest
guy around with the highest strength gain i'll throw a rock at your head if you come to my lane
Who am I?
It's a rock.
Oh, Primal Beast?
Yes, exactly right.
Primal Beast is correct.
An annoying spell and AOE inhibit hitting you on the head
with a reverberating rivet.
Hit?
Yep, this one is a spell.
F is so many lives.
I actually don't know.
When he's like, he's left from life hits.
Hitting you on the head.
Reverberating rivet.
That is the biggest clue there.
I don't know what it's called.
Oh, you're not going to get there in time.
Frog stop.
Frog stop.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's rough.
That is rough.
I felt like you didn't want to use a hint because you just wanted to get it.
Oh, fudge.
That's so bad.
I only got five.
Yeah, yeah.
I got stuck on Truffle.
I'm wasting too much time.
Yeah, you were stubborn.
stubborn you didn't want to give up on yeah there was some some some cost
fallacy right there yeah definitely definitely but hey flies not bad and
when you hit your stride you were quick like I thought you were gonna set some
records today yeah the speed bumps are too much yeah well I tried my best today
not the best but it is what it is it is what it is making thank you very much
thank you
a very good afternoon and welcome to the second half of the day for pg avalakia season 9 we
are getting ready to show you the upper bracket for the remaining two series that will be
coming your way today i'll be your host for it and my name is shiver and i am joined by kezu and
teagov kezu how you doing this afternoon slash evening doing great good games had coffee had
Pokemon cards were here. We're good. Good daughter to government. I also had coffee no Pokemon cards
But I went to bed like four o'clock in the morning. So I'm ready for this day to go really late
Oh, yeah, you've adjusted your schedule accordingly. Yeah, no, literally every single day. It's great
I wake up at like 12 in the afternoon. I watch the games go back play five pubs
Good to see but like silly a clock in the morning rents repeat. So
Late that baby. Let's go. We take a look what's coming away exactly as we are gonna take a look at the bracket and
in the top three. I'll stake. I'll stake on it. That was an interesting series. Let's put it this way.
You know, like the game one, you got the Magnus in the game three. Yeah, it was a game of though.
There was a series, but yeah. Some might say that Navi won all three games.
Some do say that. Or some say that they almost lost all three games. This is like a trigger question.
It's all good. We can focus our attention on the upper bracket. Nobody's getting eliminated
we're not going to have a
tournament like this. We're
not going to have a tournament
like this. We're not going to
have it anymore today, and we
are having a one series that
is actually a repeat series. We
have extreme gaming and LGD
going head to head in the best
of three winner of this will be
guaranteed top three. Well,
I'm very nicely actually, and
we're focusing on your first on
extreme gaming. Kezu Yeah, they
have looked surprisingly good
in this tournament. I did not
have this high hopes for this
you know this hype around them I would say.
Where would you put them, Commencers 12-11 out of 16?
Where would you place them like gut buds before we've seen them play?
I think they were going to be either the team that goes 2-3, barely not make it
or go 3-2 and potentially falter at like last round already.
Yeah, sure. So like an 8-12.
Exactly, yeah.
Because like just overall looking at the team, you know obviously like you slotted like some older players back into the team
but it's also, it's just something with like Chinese order in general throughout like recent history
and history hasn't been that strong, so I'm very happy that they are doing well.
Yeah, and they're top six guaranteed, top three on the line, and maybe we shouldn't be too surprised
about their results so far, and the fact that they have clicked and they have done well,
Kazoo, because there is a lot of history here.
It's true, and there's even more history than I initially thought, because I was like, you know,
Ami obviously, he's played Virgin Q before, he's played with XM before, you know, second place
TI Grand Finals, obviously that is incredible. But I didn't realize that he also shared a
couple of games, you know, not even that long ago with both Zeal and Baboka in the Jakob Brothers.
And I understand that like Amir has a big say on the players that he does play with. Obviously,
most players of that caliber, they don't just play with, you know, random Jimbo here and a random
guy there. You choose your players. And he's played with all of them before. So I think this also
gives me like a little more confidence, especially also in like Zeal and Baboka, who I think they've
They've started in really well.
Yeah, they have, I think they've understood
what they need to do for the team.
And I think it's just like the layering of like XM
from the mid lane, he's rotating, but with stability.
And I think when you have like nothing to say
on the previous roster, he makes the rotations,
but you don't really know what's gonna happen.
But with XM, you know most plays will be successful.
So I feel like that just, everything just complements
each other and every series we see progressing,
the test only gets harder.
I think the same thing can be said for LGD
because they are also progressing together
and they started from zero because
I mean, it's not that much
history between the players
that we have an LGD, but you
know, if I do feel like they
have showcased that they are
learning and we are getting
better day by day. They are
getting better for sure. You
see, uh, sumo with smiles
walking into the studio, and I
think there is going to be a
major focus on him in the last
series, depending it's Navi,
his voice for it Game one, his
Earth's work Game three like he
is the playmaker when he was on
OD in Game two, you could feel
the team just not functioning
in the series from the off lane, at least in that second game, but I think there's every series of
the game, it's like, is Zulog going to shine? Is DeVy going to have a good laning phase? There are
question marks still to the roster, but I love the fact that when they do win and they get to play
their Dota, you can see the ceiling of this team, and it is scarily high, but unfortunately it's just,
you don't get to see every game. No, I think the word question marks really defines this team in
in a very nice way.
Cause first of all, like Wits, we haven't seen him
in like an international roster like this.
You have, you know, Boba back on the line as well.
You know, he has a lot of lovers and a lot of haters.
So like just slotting this entire team together
and you know, Sumiel going from, yeah, I'm kind of done
into I'm back, I'm playing mid, you know,
I'm going to make it happen.
So yeah, this team to me is just the type of team
that you need to give time to.
Cause I have no idea where to slot them in.
Yeah.
And we have already seen these two teams go head to head
before as mentioned, and in the previous time they faced,
It was pretty darn positive for the man on your screen and his squad, because Extreme Gaming did 2-0 LGD earlier on this week in the group stages, of course, both so made it to the playoffs.
But maybe there's a lot we can learn from having already played a best of three.
Yeah, it's very, very simple, honestly. I think the bounty hunter into XG isn't a good option for LGD.
I think they played a lot better when they moved away from the bounty hunter.
But then the Ember CM double opening pick for XG, it made the draft so simple.
Like when you see Armour getting last pick Pierre, last pick Kez, he was dominating both games.
And the way that XG set up these drafts was so simple as they just don't care about this bounty hunter.
So if coming into the series, think about the Ember, maybe don't pick the bounty hunter if you're LGD,
and then we might get a more competitive series.
I think since that series actually, they've let bounty hunter rest.
Yeah, they learned the lesson.
Because not only were XG ready for it, it just, LGD did not look comfortable on it.
I think they just look a lot better with like,
so may I ask the playmaker, you know, then thinking if the only card they're like,
play the sidelines, be the follow-up damage, make it a bit more easy and simple,
stick to your script, and execute.
But also, we have to give a lot of credit to LGD, that it is impressive,
they've got to this position so quickly in a tournament,
because when you think about the players and where they've come from, like,
Nick McGalaxy had such a unique playstyle for the other teams,
and then you have two of their players here, you have a South American carry player who was
pretty much had the freedom to do whatever he want with no kind of restrictions on like authority.
Then you have Falcons, who is the authority, the restrictions, the you have to play our
game by putting all of them into one team and expecting them to be perfect from day one
is quite an impossible task. So seeing them in like the playoffs in and up a bracket,
maybe getting top three, it's testament to the individual skill, because the teamwork,
that's going to come two, three tournaments down the line.
And it also like speaks a lot, I think for all the players, like first of all, when you're
you're mentioning that like Sumail and Dawei come from the same team and also speaks like obviously
when you play with a player you get the vibes of this guy's really good I would like to play with
him more or it's like all right this guy I want to like kind of split ways but you know they stay
together that obviously speaks for one thing and then all the Falcons guys who split into three
different teams they're all doing very well in this tournament that also goes and speaks a lot
for this team honestly it didn't do too well at TI but just an individual skill on some of these
players it's really up there so that's how you make competitive Dota even scarier so in like next
We break the addicts up. We send them all around the world. Spirit, we break them up. We send them all around.
We easily can make 20 new teams, guys.
You can make like 20 to one teams.
Yeah, we just need to disband our top teams.
At some point, you make a mandatory thing. For example, in Malacca, you can never participate with the same team.
I like that.
Or more than two.
No, I think that's what's happened with one win. Maybe they got the wrong contract, because they keep breaking different runs.
You can only you can actually, you know what? It's also mandatory risk is if you can only participate in two tournaments in the years like
Live roster shuffle that event is absolutely based like watching that moon me and they go. Oh, sorry boozy
I can't pick you this time
Stending him off the late, you know
Heroic 2.0 or something. All right, let's let's go to the draft that we have got extreme gaming dire
lgd on the radiant side in first round of bands has already happened as predicted bounty hunters ignored by both squads
It's actually, it's Hoodwink that extreme gaming has prioritized a nice hero,
MZQ will play it, maybe even Baboka will play it, both can, and it's just very free and open.
Maybe a little less open, the Doom on the side of LGD. I know we talked a lot when it comes to LGD
about where the device hero slots in, which position of the draft do you want to pick him in,
and first pick, it's not the first time, but they have started to gravitate towards it.
I do like the Doom concept for them, because I think Witt showed that he is a stable Doom player in the carry Doom when they flexed the nigma to Offlane to enable the draft.
So if they are second pick in Doom like this, I think they are just going, you know what, it is going to be a carry or an offlane.
We'll see what happens later in the draft, but I think that is just finding confidence with heroes as the tournament progresses.
And it also does shut down the potential brew masters that you see from Zill from his unique heroes.
The playmakers of XM already asked where it's gone, XG banned up the Ember themselves actually.
He's only got the Pangu and Slarker, the unique heroes so far in the tournament, but I don't mind the doom.
Yeah, I think it goes quite well, especially what we just saw, like the other heroes at Zeal does play.
Doom is good against it. I think also when you think traditionally of Ame, you will pool a lot of gold into this guy.
Whether they like it or not, he will have a lot of gold. Most of the heroes he plays, obviously, they thrive off of that, so Doom in general, of course, is quite good against those.
but you also need to understand that what can counter Doom is high tempo, ages.
Usually it's going to be some ranged carries, we can have some nature's profits that always do very well.
If you X him from mid, I think this guy does not mind playing against Doom at all.
Most of his heroes shut down how Doom's play, which is slow.
But also the thing with Doom is you can't punish yourself when you pick Doom,
because we've seen so many drafts, it's like, I picked Doom, then I have life's dinner,
and now my mid lane is going to be a farmer, like an OD in a voker.
It's like, you can really hurt yourself if you first pick Doom,
if you don't kind of think about his timings like the best doom teams in the world will always have
skirmish through your mid or your carry and then doom kind of becomes the scaling core or everything
else is happening i don't want to see three afk lanes we've seen that already eliminated earlier
today with the ember spirit being banned in the first phase by extreme gaming why does lgd still
ban out the slark in the second phase like which hero would slark counter that they have in mind
Honestly, we've void ember and us for it all banned out already.
They were out before.
Yeah, they're the mealy bros that I would give you the cheap answer to.
It could be, I think we saw it go both ways, but there's a world where they could be looking at a DK 16-17.
When we saw it played the first time, DK did very well.
I think BZM even killed more than it was.
But the second time we saw it played, I think DK got the treatment he deserved in this matchup.
I think DK is the best shout, honestly.
And we had as Yul on the couch here a couple days ago after their victory of making it out of
group stages and he did mention that the brewmaster is his favorite hero right now and he showcased
that it was also a hero. He's very comfortable on it. And I like the fact that he protected with the
Undying because brewmaster now has the target on his back. When XG plays you pretty much are
expecting four heroes to go and fight. Army may join may not join depending on what type of hero
But if you can shut down that 4, XG can make him struggle a little bit.
So it's like, Bru is the Doom target.
Pick on dying, have shard, you save him, prolong some time, maybe get the split off.
They are kind of respecting the Doom eventually.
Yeah, honestly I think it's super good.
With like, he on dying, not just like with the Bru and like protecting him because the shard is great.
Also, again, being able, you want to be able to take an easy Roach when you play against Doom.
Undying one of the best supports with both Tombstone and Ammage Stamp against it.
stamp against it. Now I think we also get a better answer towards the Slark ban. I think like Pango also
benefits from this like quite nicely. Obviously win rate isn't quite that great but I think with a
lot of the ways you see these offlaners being played when you have these offlane dooms and timbers
you need your mid. Like the mid is always the glue to the drafter, your two supports. So Pango
fits in quite nicely. You find some snaking hero, could be, nope, his Murana is out, his Enge is out.
What else will my guy cook on?
Maybe the Bane, just a, I mean maybe it's a bit annoying against Brule. It is.
They also like XG on the 18 they still have access to potential stones for it.
A puck, like the type of lockdown that LGD has right now. Sure doom is in play but
the doom needs to stop the brewmaster and that's okay if you now need to deal
with a mid lane Brule was in the split-off it becomes a bit of a problem.
Okay, they do go for the winter wyvern.
When the pangolos picked the kuhnhal but noticed that it was a 26% win rate, it was pretty sad.
It's because, yeah, it collapses in here to help fix it and all.
Yeah, it's definitely... I mean, the hero does...
He's just not that strong, like, early on, but when a lot of these mids are getting banned out,
well, you have to reach a little bit further down into, like, maybe, B tier hero, C tier heroes.
At least it should not be played offline, I think, ever.
You need, like, a really big draft win where you're like,
okay, I'll take it offline, you get Last Fake Huskar Sniper or something like that.
Because this hero is... He's just bad in offline.
I think you can look at like I still like the park and storm personally for mid lane. I know they're not they're good
No, I'm the hottest heroes but in this draft. I mean the lockdown from Virginia. It's doom shackle
And wrong. It's not like the most perfect lockdown for a lucid hero
They actually opt for the DK. So there's one a hero that can again stand their ground
I am looking at just really tanky heroes next to you. You're gonna look at the HP pools of
DK on dying, Brew when you get to like 25-30 minutes and they're probably going to be able to like tank up a doom and walk away from it unless there's additional damage.
There are a few downsides to DK. I think it is good for that draft and Brew, DK play very nicely together. Like a lot of times Brew wants to force fights early on.
Well, if you're not, you know, answering, you will lose the towers to the DK. So they kind of cover each other very nicely with like early skirmishes.
but Winter Wyvern is not bad against DK at all, nor is Doom.
Like Doom is actually quite good, obviously you can Doom all the heroes,
but Inferno Blade you have level 15 talent for even more HP like damage on your Inferno Blade,
which is very good against DK, but it does give them very good tempo and they overlap like quite nicely with what their heroes want to do.
Speaking of overlap, a lot of hero overlap here as well as I know that Doom is still flexed potentially,
But it does look like we're looking for hero for wits and army and so far
There's so many still the ball. Yeah, the main one there is they just find it was a clink. Yeah for army
The type of game plan from LGD is you want to just kind of get in between the fight and just it's you know
Just kiting you just you commit with the role and then you need to do them to commit so you have to kill in that moment
So yeah, big range damage from army would be really quite nice
Okay, that's the that's the beauty of XU sign up is their early game you could argue
They lack a little bit of damage. They play on ultimate timings and brew and DK, but once they do enter the mid game
They're so tanky that you want to have it's like artillery cannon of army who like utilizes their frontline to then rip through them
Then a very simple question. Whatever happened at some point there was a patch where draw ranger was actually popular and she's just vanished
I think she did get quite a few nerfs
I think she's still playable like I don't think she's bad by any means, but there's other insurers that are just better
Like for instance the Kling set their band. I would still say that nature's profit is quite far up my list
Generally also you have undying you kind of want the range guy and when you play with undying or like ET
POS5 it's really nice if your carry can chip in something because they're really good at trading already
But giving them like a small chip of anything goes a long way very important question
And as well has Amme already played
The heroes that you're thinking of because he's played a different hero so far every single time
So those were off his list. It has to be a new one.
Yeah, I mean the Terrible is the only one that he hasn't showed but he is going for the drill.
Hell yeah.
Oh, there you go.
It's on paper. It just looks very nice. If it is doomed to Offlane and dying Drow,
you just don't care about Doom at all. You are just going to run them down.
So Arm is going to be very happy.
Of course, LGD, they can flick the Doom to the save lane.
They can now find a new Offlane if they really want to.
Some like and type Bro, but you're still the lane.
can be a little awkward, the game will perfectly fine.
Yeah, I'm trying to think, because the Drow hits a lot of boxes, like against Doom you're very good,
Panguileer hates ranged carries, you can also go aggs later if you want against Winter Wyvern,
if you feel like that's a problem. Something added to, DK gets a lot of hits off, generally his HP
isn't like his damage isn't that high, but DK is a hero that gets a lot of right clicks off in
teamfights. If you're close to Drow within the fight, you're going to get a shit ton of agi
doing your dragon form as well, so like another added benefit.
It just helps that all of actually heroes are going to have ways to itemize to help each other, be it through four staffs.
Like, Drow's going to have a Pike, Undyne's going to have like a Four-Sword Glimmer.
There's going to be all these little tools to play around, that, I mean, LGD has to always commit correctly.
And it's also nice that because LGD banned Nature's Prophet, which they likely could have taken,
it's also a band that works for your own pick, which is the Drow Ranger.
They just need like the tiny or the generic carry that can help with the gap close.
I think the problem right now is a lot of LGD is in ultimate style fighting.
Surely they go for a spend, take Tiny's spend, it's the same thing, but like if you miss your roll, if you miss your doom, if you waste your curse, XG will out-kite you and they'll take multiple fights in the engagement and just out-play you.
So they needed that kind of, we found a hero, we're gonna try and kill.
And I don't mind it, but as time progresses, Drawers are a lot better against these gap
closers through pikes, shards, shadowblades, be like, all her items allow her to survive
longer.
Yeah, I don't know exactly what happened to XG, but I like the way, like, first of
all, how they're playing, but also how they're picking their heroes.
I think when you're going to see, like, the heroes on the screen again, if you look at
LGD Straps, like, Pango, Doom, obviously, they need to do very well in, like, the early
few seconds of the fight.
when you cast your role, when you cast your Doom.
XG have really nice heroes against that.
First of all, you can start your fight
with Brewmaster Split on your own.
You have DK Drow, they play on a high range.
They choose when to commit.
I would way prefer to be XG in this type of game than LGD.
But LGD, they have the tools to set up another Sumo show,
right?
Like when you have Pangu in the mid lane
and the type of rotation is made,
and Dyn doesn't really rotate into the mid lane,
Sumo's gonna probably get his rune.
And if he can then offset some of these matchups,
if he plays on Doom top, you get a cheap kill.
If you play on the Sven who just wants to wrap around,
There's opportunities for Sumo to be like 5-0 in this type of game where it's a slow and active rune.
But if that doesn't happen, I think actually it's pretty happy.
And I love the fact that both teams are probably happy with their drafts.
And this isn't like a type of setup where, oh, this team must win at 10 minutes, this team must do this.
It is just two nice, even scaling matchups that I do give the edge slightly to Sumo having an early game pop-off potential.
But outside of that, I enjoy both the lineups.
Would you then also say that for Extreme Gaming, their draft is very much based on the synergy together, which we've talked about, you know, is there?
Whereas the draft of LGD is very much based on the individual skill of the players, which we also talked about. That is their strength right now.
That is their hero, so to be fair. Like when you have Doom, Pango and Sven, it is about the masterclass of their initiations, individual choices made, you know, helping each other.
It's like, I'm finding my connection, follow me. So I think that heroes inherently need individual skill.
Yeah, I think for XG, if they're able to like dance around the start of the fight they will win most fights that drag out.
Therefore, if you're LGD, if they're not hitting those properly, I think that's gonna have a huge problem.
The Undying isn't really answered.
So, I got my eyes on Mr. Ame. I think he's got this one.
Okay, eyes on Ame with his 10th unique hero, this Valachia.
And on the other side, eyes on Sumil. Let's see if he can pop off on his pango.
We're heading over to OD Pixel and Fog for game one.
Thank you very much, Shiba. Yes, the draw range are coming in, something that we're just not seeing a lot of. Is it back for good reason? Is this hero still pretty playable in your eyes?
Yeah, I would say so. I think especially to now that like the SF got nerfed right, some of these range turret heroes are always going to have argument into pango. It looks pretty good. I do like both drafts.
I think there's definitely some merit to both sides in terms of how early they can match each other and fight. So I'm definitely happy to see that and how much this humane can be enabled in this game with this pango.
I just for some reason I just feel like xg's is a little easier to play in particular even pre blink daggers
It feels like the plays, you know the team fights just a little more solid without items when I look for LGD
It does feel like they need a little bit more of that item timing to be able to match early on but
Sure to say because I do them and spend a bit greedy
So a lot of that's gonna have to come around from Sumo which has been clutch, but
But on the pango is we saw the women's right this year
I can kind of been around like well 26 or something percent win rate this tournament
I mean what's up with that is that number?
Representative of how good the hero is right now
We just seen some people pick up the pango that ain't the best on it
You know what why is it not been so hot? You know what? I actually need to look because do I did we even cover any pangos? I
Think we covered like one pango maybe two
So I wasn't on I don't show
It could have been some of the teams that have already been knocked out that were picking at the most, maybe.
Yeah, I'm gonna look at it. There's a chance of that, yeah.
Is it that bad, as the win rate says?
Oh, I don't think so. I don't think at all.
Especially, it just depends on the scenarios you put it in. Sure, the Spirits are gonna have an advantage in most situations,
but I've seen some of these Pankos also do very well.
The early aggression you get from a Diffusal and all that, so...
I don't know, sometimes those win rates are a little bit fraudulent, but...
I guess we'll see after this game. Maybe it does just lose and look bad,
But I don't think it will look that bad in this game. Sumail has a pretty good overall in most of the games
But yeah, let me let me find that I
Just the question is is it gonna be a hero that will allow them to have enough damage to sort of hit harder
XGs lineup in that mid game because they're pretty beefy, right?
That's my worry damage output gonna be enough from LGD when it is still at that portion of the game as you mentioned
Where the doom and the Sven is still kind of building up. I think his job is
Yes, it's damage, but it's also mostly control, right?
If he can prevent like a bruise split from getting off, if he can stop the front line,
get on top of our mate and disable some of the passes.
So, Sumail's trying to slow them down.
Yeah, she's a deterrent.
To allow time for his Sven and Doom to really come alive.
Exactly.
Because we have to factor in like a little bit.
I always, I forgot about mentioning this one, even at TI.
I was kind of disappointing myself, but the Fortune favors the bold.
Can actually come into practice here, right, versus marksmanship.
Later on.
So, there are some ways you can mitigate.
Because at TI it was the jug crit that I didn't even mention once during the cast, which I was like, what am I doing?
But so there's definitely like anti-carry purposes for it. Yep, but I do I do like what actually has just a little bit more
It feels like the
So that some of the lanes in particular right gonna be pretty special Gary from extra top lane in particular the doom
I don't know how they lane this versus
Yeah pokes and just sort of
They're charged out a lot of kill potential and they have a wind ranger
So in terms of pulling waves you're not really set up their design to pull waves
You're gonna have to try to play that lane matchup and that that that one sounds the roughest to me
Bottom lane at brewmaster plus hoodwink the rise of this brew. I we saw the win rate there to right 90%
Win rate on this hero right now. This looks amazing actually seals a pretty good brew right one of the best
If not the current best at the moment
He looks extremely comfortable on it. It's definitely good versus some of these hard hitters like something like Sven
I mean, how come this hero is turning up and looking pretty untouchable this event?
Is it down to the fact that people haven't been playing against it for quite some time and suddenly it's there and it is strong and
teams don't really have good ideas of how to counter it. I'd say that plus every other offlaner got it.
Right, the offlaner. It was truly an offlane destruction patch.
That's why you are seeing brides of more of these than we did before.
We was underlord every single game. Now we're seeing none.
Because some of these offlaners that the teams have been trying have not looked good, but I was a dark seer
He's been in 12 games. He's only won one of them
So some of the crazy some of the offlaners they're looking at and are considering strong are not looking strong
So I guess that's why we get this brew coming out and everyone's like well actually this feels amazing
This one's fantastic. But maybe there's other potential offlaners
That also could still be you know have become very playable because of the weakness of others
I agree. I think it is a factor of both things that you were saying though.
It's that people aren't the most comfortable playing versus it.
It's a new skill build people are doing with their maxing the clap rather than Cinderbrew,
right? There's a couple different variances, and then I don't know.
There's always games, I feel, like you were saying too.
It's like you're not used to playing versus hero.
You look what the Cyclone can do this game.
He can dispel shield crash, dispel war cryoff of everybody, win runs.
There's a lot of uses that this hero just has that you're not like
totally used to playing against his divide.
Buss, oh, we gotta translate right now. Give me a second.
So what's going on?
I'm only just missing Baboka.
Hopefully it's a bug that's fixed up all by just doing the old turning off and on again.
What did he say? Let's take a look at what it is.
The hell are my translators not working? Let's try again.
is done it's failing maybe you get it better than me someone at home one
someone will get it I don't know whatever I'm failing is it really
so chat's got it translated already and something else to mention LGD still
finding their footing over out right in this tournament we've been seeing it
some some highlights you know some nice highlights especially from Sumail but
sometimes when they're not fully gelled as a team and I think that the opposite
for XG, actually. XG has the look.
Somebody gave a quite nice, very nice, very fast pace.
It's not some, you know, last year for me, casting them,
I didn't really enjoy some of the games
because they were just very slow paced,
waiting for like 40 minute timings with Amé.
They're playing fast.
So I'm really enjoying the new switchup
that they do have with this lineup.
It's been looking pretty sweet.
Yeah, this could be quite a high action game
from their side of things.
No doubt about it.
XM is gonna be ready to get that blink early,
start making moves and yeah,
Zeal is going to be very involved every single time the split's available.
It's a little bit easier. It just looks a little easier for me when I look at their first timing.
So Blink comes out from DK, Brew has split, they can play around Tombstone.
The teamfights are definitely going to be a little easier to execute, I would say, from the side of XG in the early game.
It's just how much can they match the tempo and how much can they keep the greed going on the side of LGD.
The Doom farming, the Sven getting big, matching the Drow.
My biggest concern really is that Offlane. How is the Doom going to actually be a hero?
I've seen sometimes it's not
It just gets completely zoned and bullied and I've seen a couple games for divide where it gets just completely shut down
Doesn't get to play the game so
Yeah, I was honestly happened to quite a few off-lane it has to fill this tournament
As you say just kind of going off the the fact that some of the off-lane hero pool got
Taken away from them with the recent nerfs even though this plane has been struggling all round
Yeah, even though there's no like SF tree, which just makes you lose your lane automatically it still has looked a little harder
I wonder which bog it is. I'm like trying to feel like there's a lot of like these little bogs that happen
And they let the monkey king one some of the skins and everything because you know 20s have they've not seen the enemy yet
So you
Happy moon festival here, right? Oh, maybe some sort of event going on or something. Oh, there we go. Thank you production
That's another moon festival. We should have known this maybe
Yes, it's literally today. Oh, there we go this mid-autumn festival
The Mooncake Festival.
Have they got any new cosmetics equipped? Is that maybe what the bug is?
I don't see any of them.
So, have they got anything cool in the Drow? It's just got the Arkana looking pretty good.
Nothing, nothing crazy.
We did see, we did see on the cams that we did have Corsa admins on it, trying to get the problem sorted.
over the Zion's is it really obvious 10th hero I'm actually looking at that
that's insane you hear us yeah he just I he does this sometimes he does play
every carry under the Sun and it's been working it it is it has been working out
very nicely for him here oh yeah I was gonna look up the pango thing and then I
forgot I got distracted oh would you want to check about the pango yeah I want to
look at like who was winning it was winning it let's see that's being good
I swear that I maybe we did cover a lot of them and I'm just I completely forgot
I think we covered at least one of them, right?
I believe so.
I think so, at least, yeah.
I want a few games, then.
Okay, so there's one that they played versus.
I remember that one we casted where he had got the dispercer,
and they were playing with the Ursa,
but that was Maus versus LGD.
Did they win?
No.
As you said, it didn't win them any, right?
No, it didn't win them any, right?
No, it didn't win them any, right?
No, it didn't win them any, right?
As you said it didn't win them any right so well, it's one of you
I think like 26% across like whatever brown any games quite a lot of games. Yeah, it's like 20 games
So it has one just
That way interesting to see
That's kind of just all over the place good teams playing it mixed teams not to like maybe not the typically top teams are playing it right like
And X I don't think they've touched it
I mean this here it has been nerfed a lot over the patch it has but it has
always kind of still come back into play as we've been saying hey you know even
though it's been losing a lot of people have been picking it so just something
about the nature of the hero that still attracts the teams sometimes things just
I don't it's so cyclical it's so random sometimes to write a TI teams were like oh
my god snap fire got nerfed no one's gonna pick and I think it ended TI with
an 80% win rate or something right like just the situation sometimes where they
do get picked is insane so they pangol ended up with a pretty high win rate of
TI as well too if I'm not mistaken what's in there is at least here at
the lack you like that the witch doctor right with that's going nuts
well this wish doctor is pretty great and it just it one those heroes I think
you know a lot of the lower ranked players at home would be like see we
told you so everybody in the pubs are all MMR ranges loves a bit of witch
Yeah, it does seem like a lot of the offlaners just they don't know how to play versus and it doesn't matter later game
They just die. I don't know it actually looks so insane that one game. Yeah, just getting a melodic to someone doesn't matter if they're BKB
They're still taking damage. They're gonna be taking that extra sort of this
You know, it's gonna be on them at the end of it. Yeah still ticking away
The hero suffers versus summons and I think right now we're seeing some of the least summons, right?
I don't think we're seeing many overlord heroes
The only ones buying dominator is centaur and that's not really the similar kind of thing, right?
There's not like this zoom meta and I think that's what yeah, which doctor is terrible versus the zoom meta
But when he's able to sit in the back cast his spells cast melodic
That's what he's right getting more like and banned out against some teams right a bit. Yeah, the specialists still do see it
Some teams would still definitely bring a liking into some of these games
But it's hard to play a lot of these zoo heroes too right with the rise of the one that rise up
But Sven's tiny's these heroes that are just naturally good versus to so I guess yeah
Like cyclical things right when one heroes good another one becomes good because he's the counter versus blah blah blah blah blah
So rock, paper, scissor
Do you think this was a nice last bit for for which this game going with this fan?
It was getting well
I think they banned out the
PL and the Kez as their last two actually leaving this fan in a bit mixed on it because of the you can
Dispelt war cry and team fights from the brew which is really strong pre BKB
You can just throw them in the air as well, and then there's a tombstone same so
Maybe not the one that he would have desired to play the most in the game, but I think it does fit with their draft
I think it is a little greedy what they have ended up with the doom and the stone when the doom is already going to have a hard lane so it's
Right, I'm just looking I'm like the game could quickly become like Sumail you got to do a lot
But I don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves depending on how those lanes do end up going
Yeah, obviously there'll be a point of the game right where they better be getting that jump on the draw
Because otherwise this draw is gonna have quite
You know a large chance of finding these good positions in the team fights
So what else changed on drought right because there's the seven four one that look at all these
right some one well not the most recent one the one right before it right so it's just
Manicoss damaged range and there wasn't quite a bit of things that did end up getting changed in particular on it
Maybe a reason why we did see people straying more away from it, but yeah, so the man across was increased
But I only really matters by looks on I
Mean I
I don't know how much that really matters it's it is an increase in our back in 7.40
So this is in what yeah late July when they added the extra cost
Maybe that's why did suffer more at TI right and then there was some maps on the arrow range
We scaled from 1.75 x times draw range is attack range to 475 plus ID ID
Some of that person I need numbers is that good or bad at more highly numbers?
I think because it's less on the multiplier and more on the flat. It's
It's a nerf
Yeah
Yeah, until later. I think it's a bit later. Maybe there's gonna be like I'd have to find a threshold
I'm not doing the math on my computer right now. You know, we do have this pause someone else can do it
And the base damage did decrease
But that was actually a decent amount. So yeah, I guess more shot to take a hit back in May. Yep
Going back a while now because I ti I did look at it and I was like it did look like a weaker one at Ti
But that's the thing with that main nerf is only around the multi-shot, which I guess is quite an important part the kit it is
The other elements of drill over the last the kind of the months beforehand
Were made better. Yeah, and then you know looking at what Joe hates playing against gap closers, etc
There's some but it takes some time in this game, right?
Oh, that was pretty bad actually back in April that the Glacier no longer guarantees you markmanship. Well, yeah, but that was
Very OP. It's pretty busted. I can't believe the players didn't use it before
And then suddenly that's one of the strongest parts of drought that is counted by being close to her can't counter
Yeah, so I was actually a stonest
April but April the 7th 2026 that yeah taken away
I mean it kind of was when a that actually was when it started to become like super rising and popular
But I don't know how much they were buying the glacier either way whatever no
That was the same patch where she also got some decent buffs. Yeah, there's the damage and her base algae got increased
We're an update it's going on looks like they're all looking around
around it. Who broke what? I'm intrigued what the bug is, because it might be some weird
dose of bugs. Only the good news is, nothing's happened, so I imagine if it is a bug with
the lobby, we can just restart as no information's been given up here. So whatever it is, if
it is like one of those bugs that has to be remade, good job that Baboka spotted it early
Before the game really kicks off so fair play to him on that and calling it out. They're very locked. If it is a dota bug
Yeah, they're locked in to look for look at this. I
Mean is intriguing. You know where something weird happens like that. It's like oh
Because a lot of us have seen you know the
One of his hockey's in doing anything or
Yeah, you know me no much to the I usually know bugs, but yeah, I'm seeing any sort of collective heroes or scenario here that might
be causing some sort of issue as I say it's because it's early there will we
can definitely find a solution let's say I'm checking the chat really chat
someone knows someone might be watching you know
but now it's just all the players watching closely
around his perspective
okay okay so we were getting worried that it was just a hardware issue just
something with the keyboard so
that should be a very easy fix
this is the second time this has happened to xg i feel like xg's done this before
the pause is fine again lucky with some
keyboard or something.
Oh, get a good stretch right now.
There we go.
Okay.
Here we go.
Maybe the keyboard switched out or...
We good?
Let's set up.
He's in.
He's trying all the buttons I'd imagine.
They had shows.
Registering.
They had 15 minutes to discuss the plan now for the early game.
Okay, there we go.
There we go.
Here we go.
General, thank you very much for being patient with us.
Sorry.
We can be a bit nerdy and boring right there.
I know.
We just went down some absolutely random tangents of hero things.
What about droughts?
Yeah, I can see a lot of drought and has had you know relatively big kind of swings of personal so last
Half a year or so. Yeah
All in all should still be strong and
As you say if there was a game for drought or look good this one looks pretty nice
I don't think there's a drought range of player
You kind of want any you know you wouldn't complain about what's around you on your lineup?
Nope a cold embrace can be have some annoyances
But that's gonna later be dealt with and he has heroes to get there
And you know the brew master is going to be the one to give all the information so yeah, and even then it's like
If he's shooting someone else in the curse
Got tanky teammates. They're probably not dying in this curse
That's actually the biggest thing that I said first year right then when I looked at the drop pick
I was a key has like three of the best front liners for him in the game
So yeah, so they said go better as well right from what we're seeing on kind of women rates and performance
He can dying brew sounds great. So zeal said go is his LGD of them all muted
I know it would mute zeal right zeal seems like a pretty sweet guy. I don't think that they have
I don't think. And even if they do, you know, we're here on land. They're in the booth next to them.
We were one of the admins who had over and say, hey guys, they're ready to go.
That was really, what was that when it was OG, when people were like, go and everyone's muted.
It would indeed take the admin to sort of say, hey, by the way, they said they're ready.
Hopefully no issue on the side of LGD. Now that XG's got everything ready and fixed up.
fixed up
hopefully
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and they've also stumbled across a bug reason
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go
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the also have a little bit of a drink
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they're looking at the other check in a discussion within each other
guys are we ready
discussions being had between a lot a lot of you up in
there you guys you sorry guys
there we are so now we're in the action of game one between LGD and XG
nice spray
there we go the boys got it ready
They love it.
Alright, we got the smoke on smoke, so start things.
So random, just a random hector.
Spray paint on the floor.
Alrighty, let's see what we get under way here.
And yeah, biggest thing to re-highlight, right?
How hard is Divide gonna struggle?
How much can they actually do versus that safe lane
in particular?
You see the wards already placed from Theo,
so he's trying to get an ob-squared
to at least get some power shots, BAMs to connect.
And yeah, let's see how these lanes do go,
because it does look like XG has the edge in the lanes.
and a strong draft to get some type of momentum to go with.
So let's see how LGD puts up with it.
Staking.
I'm gonna be able to get that bouncy.
So we'll be the three bounties for XG to stop.
And my, yeah, most of my eyes will be on that top lane.
Mid XM, I love this DK build lately.
I mentioned it the other day too.
It sounds so weird, but this build is actually incredible.
I don't know, it does so much damage with the Breed Fire build when you get 20.
You're just a constant spammer and stunner.
Actually ends up doing a lot here as Jinkyu bullying, snaking out so he has to TP to the lane.
I mean, that was how he was trying to see if he was TPing in the trees.
Yeah, it's tricky.
Might have got a TP TP cancel.
Nice little attempt.
And worth a shot there.
Speaking of Jinkyu, something about Jinkyu, I mean, I've always loved watching the man,
but I mentioned it the other day, just the build that he ended up going for, right?
Just the dream for a carry.
the Soldier, the Vlad, pretty much everything you'd want to have as a carry.
Always a fun player to watch with the way that he chooses to itemize,
because some games he'll go all for himself, other games he'll be for the team.
And what do you expect from this mid matchup? And we've seen sort of Sumail's style on some of these mid laners.
Is this a situation where he can't have Topanga or is XM set to do pretty well?
pretty well. Excellent set to do pretty well, but Sumail should get his own farm as well. He
shouldn't get sucked down by any means on this Tangleer. Top lane, they are trying to do some of
this wave-pulling shenanigans already seen back coming in from Theo. So you're seeing the CS from
Aumei is getting impacted already here, although there's another wave coming into him. And he's
meeting in some of this kind of weird play, so already a pretty decent job being done from Theo
a look or two. Ensure that Divide doesn't get completely zoned level one.
I have to make sure that they're off to it.
Bit of a good start on that first level or so because yeah, once the level starts to come in, this drought and dying
and we'll be hungry for kills.
Sumail?
Anytime the Divide steps up.
Yeah, Sumail getting this early bottle, it actually could prove to be a little annoying here for XM not having this extra regen right now
because you don't go bottle on DK.
Depending on how aggressive Sumail wants to play,
maybe he is going to be able to apply pressure,
which I haven't seen a pango really do versus a DK before.
We'll see how the levels do build up.
Yeah, it does get harder and harder.
It definitely does.
So the survivability of the DK just scales up a bit better
than the damage output, the pango, and the other levels.
You're also just under towering, right?
So the physical damage from the pango
doesn't hit as hard, you abrasors,
but now let's see how good Sumail does end up doing,
because he has been styling.
Dio continuing to try to pull the wave this time it
Doesn't get the whole wave he actually ends up losing the range creep. It does get something
So they're trying the best up in that top bottom side where seems you slow down a little bit
But this is a lane that he should be pretty okay in versus the wyvern and the Sven with the back up of a hoodwink
Wyvern very annoying five position to play against but at some point
Snake and can also get brought down if he's not careful with this golden brace
XM
Now, now CS again, just a little bit here and also just constantly keeping him on his
toes.
I mean they always have the burst to do that but finding the charge to actually kill him,
it is going to take sort of XM making quite a big mistake right there to step up at a
threshold where the pangos 1-2 combo will burst him.
XM usually doesn't die in these type of situations, he might get slow but now at this point he's
already Sean 16-7 on the drought pretty close on the side it's both off lane
isn't a similar spot it's just a drought actually free farm in the sand is
getting not as solid as free form because there is some pressure that comes
up between these two yeah that's very true actually I'm having a good edge
against that all with so far in his first few waves which he should right
Just by design of the lane, it's a Drowin dying versus a Doom.
Bottom, Snake.
Does have the Lotus, should be okay, has Cold Embrace as well,
but Jinkyu is trading really nicely with them as well.
Rotation Theo, just stacking camps, they're already getting ready
because they accepted the fact that we are going to be a grid,
big greedy with our side lanes.
And look at this move, Baboka.
They're looking to double up the wave and dive with Tombstone.
Oh, he cuts the tree!
Yeah, I mean, they don't get the Bushlock on either of them.
That was a little bit of a noob seed for Baboka.
Let's still try to dive a little bit
It's more awkward now that Theo's turned up
And they turn their attention towards the trying to bring wits down the throat blood grenade his way
Well, that was very awkward. He literally cut the tree that the first one was flying to whoopsie still looking for the dive though
Decays are building up snaking in trouble
To seal still getting a first blood out of it. I mean which is still very low. It's no more decays
He might just be dead.
Alright, well it works out at the end of the day.
They get the first, but they get the two kills.
Might even get a third.
Theo stuns not up just yet, but Jingqiu's on the chase.
Jingqiu's gonna have enough mana for it.
There's no trees to hit though,
but he's just gonna chase him all the way out.
So the hit works, it might have been the cleanest, but...
I mean, if Theo goes near any trees...
Okay, he's got the boomerang back up.
I'll try with the bushwork, but won't quite have the range.
Nice try, nice try.
Mid lane, TP from snaking.
XM accepts his death, they've even looked for the stun.
Yeah, big stuff's there for snaking.
Needs himself at the bottom, but makes a quick play off the back of the respawn on the TP,
and it catches XM by surprise.
So the situation is we kind of anticipated from the lanes that are happening, right?
Those two side lanes, they are getting owned, but Sumail is outplaying pretty hard.
800 net worth differential between him and XM at the moment.
He's going to be able to get the bottle refilled too,
and let's see how much he wants to do in terms of rotations in the early game too,
because he does have the six at very early moments.
Maybe wants to wait for power move before he goes for Armei though.
And the catapult actually dies in the mid lane pretty early.
It's actually X71's catapult now for the potential semi push.
Okay, Sumer will just spam it out.
And he'll get himself a regen.
That's nice.
Yeah, with the low mana that he has.
Okay, but the question now is,
Wait, where do you go?
Do you just have to jungle on the center, I imagine?
So we have to accept-
If he's not getting any support sitting down here with him,
he is not going to want to show his face in the lane at all.
And this was a bit of my concern for the LGD draft, is that Doom doesn't really want to lane versus the Drow, and the Sven now has been pushed out of lane, so where do the supports want to go?
Do they double rotate to make a move somewhere? Do they just want to play around Sumail?
Let's see how much they do want to play.
I imagine it is going to be around Sumail since he is the strongest for their team at the moment.
Yeah, I mean, Sumail's just going to have to do a lot with this start that he has to sort of make up for the slowest start.
They are going to be enduring through the side lanes.
But Volka, Volka down, he actually dropped the tombstone as well too, so extra money.
money
That's a male take that all that sister third she does respond immediately comes back into things
I believe it did just come up a couple of seconds early. Yeah, 30 seconds or 40 seconds ago
So some help eyes on him
How much he actually can't do in this game wisdom also won't be contested so they will get that on the side of LGD and
Divide not do that
I mean as you said from divine and some of these offline dooms in general
We have seen a few of them feed in the laning stage pretty relentlessly this game
You know device hasn't died at all has been able to play safe sure as far as slow
But that is expected from this outcome easy
He's getting cut through the rough past the game without giving up too much to the enemy carry and now looking at the game overall further pango
There is some problems for him right playing versus the draw in particular playing versus that turret hero can be very annoying
They also do have a hard save on the side of XG
So it's not the easiest for Sumail to control this mid game for where his team needs to farm
Zeal definitely can run the show right now. This brog massive
Which has to just keep you out of here
He's gonna keep you over to the tier 2 just continue to stay out on the map and farm the camps in a much safer spot
This is gonna be a slow start for Whits and snaking is caught
Copy
Too much burst
Just enough that
Looked up!
Be able to put some heavy pressure onto this tier one tower, very likely take it out.
Nice and early here, eight minutes in.
But Boko's moves have worked, even though he did feed the tombstone and died once.
The moves have absolutely connected and ensured them with this positioning here.
Any build that Zeal can go that's different, now I'm at just minus agonims this game.
Doesn't need an orchid, even though he's so far ahead.
They have enough control and lockdown for the dragon knight even without it.
So he's going to be very very farmed on top of Amé having that complete free farm too.
Devai has hit the six, but again not one of those easy games for them to close the gap.
They do not have a natural way to start teamfights on their lineup.
It's got to be Sumail to just kind of charge in with the roll.
Seaway heads as soon as he has that diffuser just about a hundred gold and the diffuser blade Tommy will be there.
of these stacks. Pretty much gives him out. Very fast timing.
One of the faster ones we've seen. Yeah, that was actually really solid against him out.
Every single game I've seen from him, his first 10 minutes are looking really good.
But we have seen games where if the side lanes do suffer a bit too much, it can't be a bit too much for some mouth to kind of do on his own.
Yeah, and we'll have to see how it recovers because a couple of the games we've seen, he has had some tougher games.
And even when he had some of the more even ones, having some difficulty showing up to
some of these fights, and this guy, honestly, like, this Fenn showing up to fights is very
dangerous.
He has to really pick and choose when he does want to turn up.
Absolute kill threat at all times, there are ways to control him.
Is he out?
He's fine, G2, that's an easy kill.
Wix will take it with the stun.
Nice natural move too, because he makes the shift toward bottom, the rune's going to be
They give Theo the lane, so it's not like he moves and DK's hitting on his tower or anything
It's just a very natural one that comes in from Sumail there
Mid lane, perhaps from poking onto XM. He has the soul ring though, so we'll be safe on the mana
And there's the Midas, so Theo has it finished up already here at this point
One of the few heroes that still can't buy Midas and it doesn't feel bad
Trying to get some push on the mid, around the DK, being low mana and low health, they
have their catapult waves as well, so Male has the roll.
Both supports are ready on the side of XG, and Barude does have split if he wants the
TP over.
And the fact that they don't even TP the Bruin, that means it's a team call, right?
They're like, guys, don't TP in.
We've got the tower defense.
We lost our 5 position on dying, but that's a rolling thunder expended for not getting
a tower kill.
So, it gets G.
he'll be okay with that I think LGD will also be kind of okay with that too
even though they don't get the tower snay he's just getting right click sealed
beat him up he's bruising pretty scary as we've seen just running arrows down the
Midas honestly it comes into play pretty it's actually it's a lot of attack speed
early for this hero he actually just beat him up that was pretty funny to see
how this hero looks good I don't know this it definitely doesn't you get these
timings very quick if you're not shut down and looking at this game this hero
struggles sometimes when there's a lot of stuns a lot of silences he has to
watch out for doom in particular but that's kind of it in this game.
Very tanky. Continues to look this strong with those big sort of periods in
the past right where Brew has been first-faced by material against certain
teams. I'm looking to turn up maybe assist in the defense under the mid
they'll find themselves in the power rune which is getting time to be able to sit
In fact, they'll get enabled. We'll be able to clear those stacks uncontested, so it's a quiet game, down now 4-4.
Those side lanes, looking like a bit of a distant memory now, at least for the Sven and the Doom.
So you'll be too speedy for them to get their hands on.
Look at Zeo, he's doing the... I call, he's called this the tundra.
You know, the tundra from when they won TI is you pull the lane back, you're always preventing that bottom lane from giving farm to the carry.
No split to play with.
Seal, waiting for his move.
Do they have the blink on the DK?
I believe they do and I think that's the next G's going to look to accelerate things.
No level 6 yet on snaking.
Sumail is in the area.
Seal's running in.
Still not charging!
XM not quite close enough to get the blink stun just yet.
Trying to find an angle here, but unable to just yet.
That was a radiance, what the?
Radiance scan was right on top of Amé in the wave.
Smells a weird one.
I guess maybe just was checking if he was on the side slightly there to be able to pull
the wave on Divy.
But move on connect, 4 to 4.
The greed is starting to pay off on, they're starting to get to sit back at the creeps.
Sven's chilling.
Sven's chilling.
Divy is pretty happy with how this sort of uneventful early game has been for him.
Mid.
Mid, they will find Theo, that's the blink reveal from XM.
I'm devised, pretty much got the money for the rally.
If he does want it, I was thinking he might go for the radiance.
I think he's gonna watch you now, right? Yeah.
If you save up this amount of money, you're getting away with it. You go radiance, Doom.
Sneaky, he is spotted. Ame is turning up to the fight with both guys.
Very aggressively postured here.
He's really trying to get a kill out of this, but you are not.
Rolling Thunder's up, his team's done his taken away.
XM's jump forward trying to fire hard.
They do bring down Sneaky and return.
return. Zeal's here. Zeal should be alright, I have to clear. Never mind, I'm not gonna get the chance,
cause the Shattom of the Doom's dropped down after Zeal's dead. LGD, they could continue to
chase for even more here. Jing-Q and XM have to run.
It's a male slide forward with his washbuck, they're starting from Wits. It's gonna have the
answer Jing-Q. Jing-Q in trouble, XM jumping forward, try and help out, the gold streaks up.
They're still gonna lose Jing-Q. Army's gotta run, we'll see Wits and divide Shaste down XM,
Another stunt from where it takes out the Dragon Knight.
There we go.
And now the cursed other one.
The locked down army, closing on top of him with defying Helicort Snake and kill him off.
But Bocca, he's going to die a second time in throughout this all.
As LGD absolutely bring the fight at a perfect time, at a time where it's XG trying to bring the fight to them.
They were coming into LGD's triangle.
They felt strong, but it got turned around on them massively.
Zeal turns up. I guess just didn't expect the tomb and such to be that doesn't get his split off
Wits also this time around, you know, he's had some quiet games. We doesn't turn up
He also turns up everybody's there on the side of LGD
They got time to sit back hit the creeps get this extra farm and then it's a very I mean honestly a super over aggressive move by the
Bogey, it was a nice move bottom early
But now positioning this tombstone in that spot the massively. Yeah, that was crazy
against this LGD lineup that for the most part been chilling and because having a great time you could see armies in decisive here
because at this point it's like that we don't we want to follow the bokeh and
Actually said well, we're gonna try XM with this jump in they really want to try and push for these kills
They get snaky, but it's at this point
Doing drop down on a zeal didn't get the split off
Yeah, at that point you've lost your brew
I feel like you just got a run and to be fair they tried to but the chase was good
I think XM does actually come back in though, right here. XM and Army, they could be safe.
They wanted to help Junkyu.
You know, indeed a case of kind of following the supports a little too much.
And the place there is costing them big time losing these cores.
Which also, at the tail end of things, right? Godstreak comes up with just the limited mana that he has,
so he gets those big connections in. That was a dream for ODD.
It did have a big load to see here, Army, but did not pass it. The fight is already in on top of him.
That was a pretty awful fight there for XG.
Yeah.
HED very, very happy and of course the fight, doing that, he didn't have the relic on him,
he might have even had it on Spenny, not the relic.
He hadn't spent anything, no.
So getting him to do this is a doom.
Now he's getting to enjoy the fact that he has this Radiance timing that he's gone
away with.
That was massive.
Yeah, that really hurts the flow or any sort of flow that XG were going to try and get
out of this early game.
They can't afford to do another bad play like that.
First split not even getting used just gets answered immediately by the doom in the positioning from lgd xg
They need to have better angles of approach especially from book as we said
2k lead now stand in a very good position all three right
Yeah, they were in the spend the two that were the greedy ones that were essentially shut down relating phase got to just chill
Win the fight once it comes to them to
Impressive stuff. I mean this dooms just can be such a huge problem now
He is and they have blink already on the spend now, so they have ways to start fights, too
Yeah, and it is fair play to divide really cleaning up this game because he has had some of these games right where he's just died so many times
Against a rough lane matchup this game not the case at all
Zero deaths to zero for and what is going to be a very quick radiant BKB blink dagger timing
Yeah, next to them macro movement there
Definitely not being the cleanest for them but still you still good ways to team fight around this Bruce Blitt
But probably gonna wait till the agonist now for seal because he's gonna have acts and I'm gonna have the level 12
It's pushing Q with him, but how much they're looking can do to try and save him as he is looking pretty dead trying to hide in the corner away from the rolling thunder, but the squash buckles back up, some mail takes him down.
Those deaths hurt XM a lot. It does for you after that sort of situation that they have where they were running into the enemy side of the map and they lost the fight horrifically. It is going to take quite a bit to get everything back together on XG's side after you get shaken up that badly.
It's gonna be have to be at least like wait for the next timings of items because they actually went with very little item times
It was just the blink on the DK from earlier now
They're gonna have eggs on drought
They're gonna have eggs in the brew so they will be increased pretty much in terms of five potential
But now wits he can shop all the fights. Yeah, he's got blink
He's got the three core items that he needs to build the fight and divide also
He's already got that radiance on his way to a BKB. Yeah, that to be so
With the way that they go about the next play actually because if this goes rough this game could actually fall
quite quickly in turn. Very difficult territory. XG, they need this smoke to succeed.
They need Baboka to be in a bit more of a careful positioning, not so reckless.
As you say, big timing. Yeah, Brew splits. From the draw, Axe on the brew.
The Axe brew is the big one that they have to play around. XM very vulnerable at the moment if
If they can't get on top of him though, he's just got that blink in the shard.
The built-ins get the tower, LGD, they'll respect it, they're not gonna just run into it.
Wait for their own timings, perhaps also getting close to something, Sumel does have a blink himself.
And ideally for them, if they can't wait until Wits has BKB, then he has a much easier entry into all of these fights.
Doesn't have to worry about gusts, doesn't have to worry about getting kited.
The BKB doom and BKB's fat timing, it's gonna be fast.
It's gonna be very strong.
And LGD, looking for the fight themselves with Amp damage on Sumail, has the Shard too.
And having just the natural ways to enter the fight with these multiple blink daggers.
Even one on snaking, so positioning.
Definitely going to be a bit easier, it feels like, now in these next few moments for LGD.
GQ?
Spotted.
Got spotted, Seals got a run.
Instant split.
How's the pressure? Media leads to stop any sort of chance of getting interrupted.
See, DeVyke continued to chase down Shinkyu,
walked out and burned at the radius of the Scorched Earth,
which is going to try and clear through some of the split here with the God's strength.
Careful, it's a lot of damage.
They are dealing with the Brewlings one by one.
Armey's turned up though.
Smell's going to blink out to the side.
DeVyke caught with a stun of 8-7.
Smell's going to come up with a rolling punch to try and help DeVy out of the curse in there.
Spanking, cuts him with a wrap around,
gets the angle onto the two of them.
Armey's in trouble.
The bounces continue here from Smell as Armey's gone.
Exem surrounded, but both of them trying to save it, but the court of Brazil comes out to divide the vice to fight him a little longer, but he'll finally die.
Hanzil and Mabokki clear up anything more, and they'll get the stun on Sir Snake, so at least they'll be able to stop his escape, and take him out.
They don't go empty under their extreme, but they do lose their carry and their men.
And with Survives during all of it, they TP out with him, they TP out with Sumel, nice blink from Sumel.
Dodges the gusts to ensure that he can distance himself XM again turns up stuns and just dies instantly almost
They just whaling onto him with that curse good positioning the multiple blink daggers
They've been able to pick up there in these times allows them to enter the fights like this on LGD a little easier pick and choose their targets
The brute damage is still dangerous they do have to respect zeal
But great positioning overall there you could even see I think snaking use the smoke
Yeah, solo smoke I think from the mid lane to get to this positioning into the fight to find Armei.
Yeah, it was a pretty solid curse, ensuring that they had this situation where a short divide does eventually die.
But they give him that extra bit of time to get in on top of Armei, get the tomb down,
and ensure that whether he was dying or not, Divai, he was going to be bringing Armei with him.
it.
Thanks G. Not quite finding once again the fights that they'd hoped for.
Unable to slow LGD down too much.
No, not as clean as they want any of these fights to be approached for them.
Now they do have Blink on Zeal so they do have better positioning as well for him.
But as we do see the multiple Blinks on the side of LGD is allowing them to just pick
and choose their targets just a bit easier for now.
I think that is the yule is going to be finished up so they do a lot of kiting factors so Sumail
Does have to be a bit careful with something like how he wants to use the rolling thunder
He can't just get thrown in the air
seal
That's a primal split for just a BKB of the buy
I don't find anything with that
Might lead to the
Temptation of LGD going for a smoke plan today down something to cool it out. Yeah smoking to a player even into a roast soon
because they've got the pango with the minus armor they have to spend god strength if they can get a pick off
absolutely can speed it into rush on
yeah doom itself will get back up on line though
maybe with the ult
only missing the bkb of himself but shouldn't matter too much
new bkb is on wits so he'll be ready to frontline this time
getting the information they get even one kill they can't just look to go straight into that rush pit with the god strength
does un-dying have C-sus there?
okay does maybe that one won't do it but let's see what they want to do
I love a bokeh.
See what they're doing now.
I don't know if it's enough with an undying kill.
I think you just go back and reset.
If it was one of the core kills, maybe you can threaten that rush, but...
Undying back to life immediately, ceaseless surge exists.
And XM, just on a recovery period, right?
Trying to find a place to get the BKB at the least, but it's definitely gonna be one
of those slower roads for him now because these are not the decays that they
don't scale on the similar function as we've seen in the past they're just
that's different with the way it's played with the spell damage so I don't
see how much that's gonna actually come into play versus like a span it was just
always showing up with the BKB
arcane Brazil 15 seconds to split on the numbers still pretty close it's about
3k so still going still getting the scaling on both sides and the itemization
It's pretty happy to have the chains done. That's a lot locked down. He's gone. Oh, man
That's a big one XM gets the kill to that's the recovery
And now maybe they can go for the rush themselves. It's 45 seconds
They could they've got good damage rock with their hands not done dying so they can't look for it
Yeah, they said you will
Put the wards down drop the tombstone beat on it with the drug
I think they actually get away with it themselves now with just that pick off.
Just a little sort of pick off like that, that little, just that sort of smell on his own, but he's an important hero.
They have to smoke up and try, I mean they still have some pretty big team fight around the curse.
Wits, they get it in time, Wits, they're about to jump, it's a good angle, he's getting a big hit since they've got the Aegis Wits coming in clutch here for LGD.
As now they'll be able to back off.
Armey, swapping position in the tombstone.
Thanks to you, Punish, LGD for this whatsoever.
They're looking towards Devine.
Sumail's responding soon.
Cold embraces there for him, and now Devine touches ready.
He's just blinking straight back in on them.
He's got the big enemy ready to go.
He's in onto Armey.
Armey's taken out.
Now Sumail with the rolling thunder.
He's looking for more.
As XM is in queue, trying to run.
The fuselage slows there on towards XM.
LGD pretty much getting everything.
And Witt's absolutely stepping it up.
He's actually shaking games this tournament, but they're making the jump making the call at the right time
To really bump up the lead here now for LGD
That's the pre TI wits that we were seeing in many games is super confident with the jumps getting way
That is the best game I've seen from him this tournament so far jumps in gets it perfect
The two stones saves there for Amé, but it just allows this vent walking. Oh, okay. Oh, that's it the Roche
ages
Some of these fights proving to be a little too much for XG.
Okay, okay, okay.
Let me go, go.
Indeed.
Indeed, let him go down.
I'm going to make the call to make the jump and really find a fantastic moment here around
the road, Shan.
And even just looking at Gresh as well for the divide off that corner brace.
He's like, I'm not running away.
I'm getting back in on top of Armey with that blitz.
All these split second things really mattering in that zeal also. He's got the split forced to use it
But they're gonna clear it. They are Zeal's gonna try and run
And I don't think he's getting away from this. It looks like whoa
Okay, and he's gonna stop it
Snakejink stops the TP out another one if the LGT has their lead
Getting pretty pretty large right now 8k advanced is still three minutes to push on with which having this ages
They've gone away with a lot this game LGD actually they had
hopeful showing in the early game in the laning phase
But after that rough move into LGD's triangle
Their game has really started to crumble that one moment that what they might have been able to get it back together as well around the
Roshan get shut down
It's looking harder and harder now for XG
Sumail is looking as good as ever again to this pangolin comparison to the DK did amazing in the lane forced rotations
He is looking very good super comfortable and that pangol is looking good, I don't know right sometimes those winter inches can be a bit
Jarring it's looking pretty solid this game overall to shutting down XG making them rethink their moves
At least for me and you right the rougher time that we've seen from XG in terms of how it everything is coordinating
But for the side of LGD part of the best coordination we've seen from them so far
excepting that they've lost their lanes in a way which bound to happen with the
matchups at the head and then just recovering very quickly with the stacks
and the fights. Treat to say level 20 now for Wits with an Aegis coverage, that's
two fights for all of them. Perhaps this is some of those reasons for
drought that can have its difficulties. If you do get a call on top of right, you are
just one of those more fragile heroes. There's always an element of kind of the
snowball needed when you're running a drought lineup to really accentuate what
the hero can offer as a carry. So yeah, these sort of chaotic games where you're
falling behind and everyone's sort of going into panic mode and the team fights,
good luck trying to kill, keep the drought alive when LGD are gonna be this
hungry to kill her with multiple ways to get close with all three cores having
means to just get straight on top of that. Yeah now at this point too for
Devire, he doesn't have to do them the brew as you saw in multiple of these
situations they've been having enough damage threshold that they came to threaten him even without it or just kill the rulings
She cute will be able to steal the shrine for it
Cute little play there, but only a small game
Tiger defense is still quite strong from the side of actually with the draw with the turret
But they are getting very tanky now on the side of LGD, very quickly the Shiva's finished up for a device.
He said the 20T was there for Witz.
Top, another type of bokeh is dying all over the place.
Eight deaths.
It's very aggressive positioning for him a couple of times.
That's maybe even broken his team's positioning too, to try to assist him.
We did see that early move.
Witz!
GQ!
He's actually going to get the heroes up, they need to curse it, they want this hope when
gone.
I should get some of the lobby spells, but they will kill him.
Tanky little squirrel.
Hi armor.
I don't think, I think one, one attack redirected, maybe not even, he's just tanky.
But what's, such confidence to jump forward as we're seeing this game.
Most confidence we've seen him this ornament.
Yeah, he's just gone.
Almost a full Daedalus for him after that.
They're competing for that net worth.
Divide with that early Radiance.
All three up at that 18-19k.
Yeah, so JinQ, I guess he is just playing that more very supportive role.
With his items that I've seen on multiple games.
Solarcrest, Eulus, just looking to try to enable Ame.
Ame does need it. This game needs any extra buff up he can get at this deficit.
Since he is planting versus that plus armor of the Warcry.
Ideally in teamfights for XG they can use Bruce Plitt, they dispell the Warcry,
then they go for the fight where I can just hit through them, but it's just not really been the case how the approaches have been coming in.
That plus armor is very annoying.
AC finished for Zeal, he's got the level 18,
So level 4 Bruce Clitt is at the ready for the next fight. It's just his DK has fallen off a cliff as well
XM having a very difficult time recovering in this game
Even from the start of things the lane we saw some help really bring you to him
Full data lists
Amé playing the Drow versus the Sven and he's a full item behind, not the place you want to be as a Drow.
Not at all. You're gonna die so quickly in these fights if they find you.
LGD looking for the fight. Lincoln's on Sumail.
We'll be able to block the Dragon Tail initial and probably gets the roll off and roll up in
most situations if that's the case too. Are you ready to play aggressive with these smokes?
Wits turns up another kill.
No rolling thunder, they're trying to take advantage of something here, but Wits very
quick with the fingers same with snaking they both blink out and now XG not
connecting with anything when doom is down when rolling thunder is down by
time the brew comes back up positioning's gonna be there at least for
rolling thunder to be back up LGD's macro movements connecting nicely
throughout pretty much the entirety of this game as they're very nice today and
I'm just not getting caught out by any of the moves of XG whatsoever.
Hamek?
He's got him!
Cleave!
He's got him solo!
Hamek will live the only just!
They'll still lose Baboka.
They'll throw the side of the lane, but...
Oh goodness, Hamek, he nearly didn't get out of there.
Almost get solo killed by Wits from how big he is at this point.
One more crate would have done it.
Rosh, about one more minute, LGD, fully controlling the map now.
All of XG's stuff inside the base.
That farm's going to continue to grow, XG, they've got to smoke to catch, they've got
to smoke out.
Yeah, you've got to take a risk as XG right now, you're that far behind, maybe you find
someone split off, catch a core, catch some mail maybe.
Yeah, it looks like they're reading it on LGD2, snaking, backing up to the high ground
with his supports, Sumail also connecting, they're all connecting in fact.
it's G the train the other coil tank the gang I even survived them because
their back comes coming in and corner braces there are they showing he's got
right at the front the tombstone will get dropped down and try and bear army
army put the BKB and have to try to slide away from the fight but the fight is
ready to chase him down drop down the doom onto army as army they make all this
slowly but surely gonna die here as some out and we held a position by the
stuns now he's up ready to swashbuckle back over towards the rest of them they get the drag back with the gale force dropping
XM allowing which to wrap around get the stun onto the DK, LGD they're gonna be able to find the four of them
and indeed I don't know how much more this XG is gonna want to play as this is getting pretty rough and rapidly so
after what looked to be a decent early game but my goodness him really does feel like that one
Prof move just completely sort of sealed the outcome of this game.
That whole mid situation, which gets so many, killing up kills,
Ame turns up, dies twice back to back after two.
And that just looks sad for Ame.
He's just trying to run the whole teamfight.
They just fall and jump on top of him.
It feels like it's it.
Yeah, they just crumpled massively this game, HG, and LGD coming in today,
as you say, just looking to be really on the same page.
You know, this isn't just sort of individual performance is popping off.
It's the way that they're coming together which deserves tips. Like I said, this is the best song
I've seen from him at post ti at least with this group
Of course, I've seen every single one of their games, but he's looking good on his fan at the vibe
And one of the better shows we've seen from his doom. He only died once he made it to the landing
Absolutely, he really sort of you know quite in this all game performance at a point where he needed to right didn't try and do anything crazy
In the lane got what he could and I like is absolutely paid off
If you know top no, I think you'd be top no worse than majority of the second half of this game now is to do.
That's just a hard decision, right? He was just like, guys, the game's slowing down some, when he just decided to go for radiance, right?
The game was slowing down so much.
Yeah, absolutely the right decision to make. He got the radiance at a perfect time.
And now looking for the fight themselves, they fake the Roche, and now looking for the fight right outside.
Yeah, she's last fight.
Here we go, one more, see what they can do.
Thanks Sam.
Fight snaking!
I'll make sure we get the BKB on turn towards Theolikor, but Theolikor's out of the slide up to the high ground,
get away from Armey and out to find Samal, they're moving on top of Armey, which is going to focus XM.
Armey's going to go down, he does not have buyback, XM still alive, he will get away from the finale,
the buy is seeing if he can maybe find some sort of way to get round to him, but both are going to be dealt with by Samal.
They'll take out the tombstone, to the rest, they will be able to snipe Theolikor at least on the way out of this,
still XM losing a second call on top of the support there.
QQ trying to scurry away back to the fountain.
Sumail seems to be able to stop him from getting back.
He's going to win.
He'll get back in.
Really trying to push him away.
Yeah, perhaps at this point it's actually just
discussing what went wrong so fast in this game.
As it truly was a big snowball that came out from LGD's
Great macro movements.
And his last two fights, not even close.
They kill one hero, I believe it is.
Snakey, I guess Steele gets brought down
toward the end of things too.
That's just taking so much and ensuring that they,
this sort of deficit just don't have any way
to set up a team fight in a fashion
that the drill is gonna be happy to play.
The army is getting completely isolated
every time they see fights.
And he doesn't do damage, really.
I saw him like attacking Thiel,
I think he hit six times onto a win ranger. It doesn't end up killing him. That's the entirety of the BKB used so
No damage at this point either to go through this lineup
Yeah, really good shot calling over all from LGD
One final set that they need to go for here with a full with an Aegis now for the Sven
He also does take the storm hammer stun duration. I do like this talent a
A clear path to victory now for them.
Well for XG, a complicated one.
Ame's growth, I mean he's heading on neither as XM, they've lost the last three consecutive
fights.
Yeah, with the build up you want us to draw, you know the damage is not going to step up
anytime soon.
And it's the manter that the Linkin's queued up still before any further big damage involved
in the build.
It's like the Butterfly Daedalus is what he really needs at this point but it's very
very far. GD ready to look towards that final 2-2 top.
GD, where do they want to try and take their final chance?
I'm going to try around the team so he gets a jump once he whips, but he does of course have the ages he thinks he wants.
Cody braces there, X has been caught with a shot, Samara already found his way to the backlights and has found Armady.
That's Armady.
X is peeking, he comes to an end, Doom gets dropped down onto it.
Tim starts there to find a little bit of safety from the Doom.
I'm keeping up, you know, keeping each other alive this time XG.
Which is thrown in the air.
They'll give a bit of respect to it, they didn't have rolling thunder, it looks like Sumel was a little hesitant toward the end of things afterwards after he didn't get the big connection, so...
XG, they'll hang on. No kills.
They'll give a bit of respect to it, they didn't have rolling thunder, looks like Sumail was a little hesitant toward the end of things afterwards, after he didn't get the big connection, so...
XG, they'll hang on. No kills.
Since we've gone that final set of racks now, gonna be exposed for the...
...Manta push off that GD.
Almey does need the Manta, unfortunately, because I was saying maybe he does try to find a way to skip it,
but he does need Manta plus one. His damage is just looking quite sad in the fights now, at this point.
LGD, we have 30 seconds. God Strait is going to be back up.
40 for the BKB can look for that fight again here.
Felt like that last fight, they gave a lot of respect to the side of XG,
because it did feel like they could just probably barrel through them a bit, but just wanting to be extra cautious.
I don't really need to take too many risks right now, TG, I can...
I'm very safe route out of this game one.
That pretty much flawless play from Whits.
After a slower start in the leading phase.
And the growth for XG is, like I said, not much extra farm is gone for them, XM, XIVUS
is done but it feels like he's had that for some time now does get the 20
talent to that brief fire does increase at least but yeah in terms of what it
does versus Sven it's not that much in terms of the grand scheme of things
and we ready to jump yeah which and it left on the ages no reason to not try
and enter into the high ground they only need to solve the army answer he's the
only damage for the team at the moment. Even then, it's not the highest. Banner,
he's getting killed.
Anyone who can pull us out of them to star, XM at the front has to be KB.
Get the banner down. Rhone Thunder is used. Looks like they will back up and
reset for a moment here. So 45 seconds on this Aegis. They're giving a lot of
respect to Aegee's high ground. They really don't want to mess up with this
push here as you said. You know 30k lead if they don't want to give up any of it.
Just control the map.
Don't let them step outside, 42-minute wisdom is going to be there too if they'd like to
swing over and maybe find a potential random catch.
Looks like the line is drawn to enter through the bottom side too.
Might be able to find a catch here with the sneaky smoke.
They're back up and reset, just up for that.
We call this the, you know, snaking is on this team, so it is a Falcons approach, right?
They do want to get that giggle if you feel that, right?
You feel the macro movements that they're doing,
just ensuring that they can just completely control
every type of resource on the map at the moment.
Actually, and they're feeling desperate, right?
They're like, we got to smoke out and do something
because they're just chilling back
whenever they have cooldowns.
I see it in this position.
And what's sort of the position there?
Would you say the sort of lineup and vibe
is very falcon-z that they're trying to manage
to bring out and manage to use lineup with the draft?
It does have some vibes with it,
but it's also like this is a very cooldown based lineup,
But you and you look at the heroes, right?
That's what I'm saying with the heroes.
Thanks, Peter.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
I've got to say, King's like, he's getting some memories out of this one.
Yeah.
And the way they are approaching it,
you feel that similar vibe.
Waiting for these cooldowns, looking to be as safe as possible.
Making SG feel as miserable as possible, as extra tries to smoke out.
Don't find anything when cooldowns are down.
And they go right back to pressuring again.
of course we did see there from Theo some more and more ways to protect versus the one lockdown
that they do have the one of these big stun, the DK stun.
Nullifier is soon finished up for the DK, is looking to just burst down that one target.
It's been particular, if they need to find snaking, not let them get these saves too,
Yeah, there's a lot of things they need to do in the fights.
This damage isn't quite there. If Aame can get to that next big item though, they will start to have some as GenQ deleted.
Beyond God like wits.
She will.
We'll be fine. She's got the full dispersive to play around and divide.
I guess it really hurts.
Here's one of the three of them.
Snape being catching all three cars.
The fight with the follow-ups done.
Both of them will try and barely spot them out.
This with the Tombstone, the XM step with our buyback.
What a beauty.
And that should be enough to close this game up.
And the Loofe seal, he's got no buyback.
They're dying up by the T4s.
Armand trying to hold the back, but he cannot do so alone.
Gigi is called LTD.
Taking this game one as XG and looked like they were gonna have something going with the start they had
But they really didn't in the other way so fast and then all of this game LGD
Just looking phenomenal all from that mid-play right but Boca going a bit too deep
It did snowball pretty fast afterwards
So XG maybe having to revisit what their game plan overall was because the two side lanes they did do their job
So something else did go wrong in the game with the macro movements.
Yeah, everything really coming together there for LGD as they take game one.
I love seeing this type of team play from LGD because we've been talking about LGD,
of course, from the start of the group stage, about how each player individually is good.
And we want to see that they're greater than the sum of their parts.
And I think this game was an outstanding example to it.
For example, taking down the melee barracks and making sure you both hit the last hit on two of them at the exact same time, so you can't fortify.
Gotta really like that play, just like you gotta like the YouTube channel, thank you very much.
And this was just a start.
I like it, yeah.
You like it?
I like it.
Oh, you love the play, right?
Actually, I like liking the channel more than I like the play, actually.
Really do?
Yeah, no, I just love the channel.
Gotta love it.
Gotta like it.
And I think LVB, if they can do this consistently, they're going to be a scary team.
The exciting thing for us is we get the honour to watch a brand new team in their first tournament after the shuffle.
And every series you can see the coach turning where it's like one player understanding what his role is in within the system.
I think like Witt sitting in for this example of that where he was not very present in the previous game, but in this game he's rotating mid on the stand.
getting called by Snake and like, follow me, trust my call, you go in.
He's like, yeah, I'm going to go in.
We heard the comments from him as well.
It's like, I just felt like Witz is morphing into the carry that LGD want him to be.
And his skill was so exceptional that once it's in harmony, they are a scary team.
And they're making the improvements during this tournament.
And it's also like from the games I've seen them play, this is by far their best game of the tournament.
And also like you're playing against a really good team.
Like XG have not looked bad in this tournament at all.
And it's a lot of the things that they're like, like even Davai having a good game against this lane, it's not that easy.
But just understanding, I don't need to do much. I'm gonna go back, you know, max the tower, get your farm going.
And overall, the way they played over the map was very phenomenal.
They had a lot of clutch plays throughout this entire game.
And it's not like XG weren't trying. I think they were trying to make moves in the early to mid game.
But LGD, they had really good map movement and understanding of where to be and where not to be.
Yeah, it is mirrored though by the idea of XG.
their movements were a lot sloppier, I think. When we're talking about LGD improving from
series to series, I was getting so excited about this, because I actually was looking
so, so good, but the donor they played today, that doesn't feel like upper bracket donor
in this first game. The way that they were collapsing on mid, they got 5 man wipe, they
were kind of scrambling around, armies positioning in certain fights, like he was initiating
like he was a tiny or a spare or a kez or a PL, but he's on drown. You don't need to
be in melee distance. Yeah, that was sus. There were some weird movements from XG, and
I hope that's just, you know, you got to shake it off, go back towards game two because, you know, with he is ready to put on a performance like this.
Yeah, I think we've been a little critical of where it's a couple of the term of couple of the games here in this tournament.
He's been a little bit late to parties in terms of fights and maybe slightly in the wrong position when things go down.
But this game, he was on point, including the awesome, the awesome ages moment that we had with him as well.
Yeah, I think it's like you need to be in the right place mentally, I think, to begin with.
Like in some of the other games, maybe he feels uncomfortable, you know, new team, new environment, and it's like kind of hard to play and think clearly.
But I think this time around, he was in every play he needed to be in.
But also, I feel like you could say that's the snaking as well.
Like the way that he was playing this Wyvern, that he easily could have been a stand-up player.
Like the way that he was holding himself, he was conducting himself.
Thank you very much for quickly pulling up as well.
I appreciate it.
We're going to show you some clips in the future.
You know, Fogged already mentioned it in the cast about certain moments and how snaking was holding himself in the Wyvern.
other five players would have rushed into certain teamfights and exposed their positioning,
but he knew exactly what he wanted to do, and it was just such a beautiful widening game.
Like every curse, it just felt like he knew why he was cursing.
It wasn't just throwing it for the sake of, maybe we'll win.
So I don't need an MVP graphic for Somael, but he did.
Like the thing is, DK is, you're not supposed to lose this matchup.
This used to be a counter pick. You can literally just skill stun.
When Pango runs up, you stun him, you beat his ass, you deny some crates.
He got killed and outplayed in that lane XM cannot let that have happened again
He cannot and when Tegov is talking about clips that will happen in the future the future is now Tegov
Yeah, don't forget to like the YouTube channel
It's just this is not my clip. This is my clip because so what happened for this was one of the few I guess man
I care this is why he's on the MVP
This is why you gotta focus on us the thing is you cannot die in this middle
But the cool thing is, you know, actually, okay, we can take Rosh, we have the Undyne.
But this is what the top teams do.
It doesn't matter if you're down 1-0, you need to just understand the overall situation
and what you can do.
Because in 10 seconds, Rosh will move away.
But just look at this.
It's not about, oh, we can't take this fight.
If you understand what to do, and you have the right timing, you have the right angle
which they do with the smoke, and just being able to play it so, it looks so nice and so
simple, right?
They just go for the right smoke, get a good jump, steal the edges, and like they kite
and play this long fight.
I have been missing this type of Q1 gameplay from them, at least for Alus' tournament.
Just to play the other side here, for XG, with the brewmaster, he wasn't really scouting with his pandas.
You had the undying player in the north side of the pit holding his tombstone, he was to the shard save.
Of course, that is a major mechanic of undying in the patch, but you could argue with this type of setup,
you could throw the tombstone down preemptively, you could have the brewmaster scouting a little bit better.
I think XG, they got the pango kill, and they kind of turned off their brains and hit Roshan,
and it's like top teams in the world they identify when is the chance that this you know tier one team might not be in their full point and it's hitting Roshan for some reason every Dota player does it they just go
they're beating Roshan and they just forget everything else so I think actually just forgot to kind of think about the the contest they forgot
maybe like this game or is it game one of the best of three warm up game for sure this time the future is actually
like the comment again and now it's the governor's report yeah show me the clip roll the clip
I
Yeah, I just wanted to praise the owner. Okay, I think
No, no, but we can talk about it. We can talk about it. No, you'll nearly got out of this one
I think it's like from XG if I look at him. He was one of the guys. I think that played very well
I think the only problem that they did have in the early to mid game is they didn't get enough plays going with XG
And I think for the game to they gotta clean it up. They got it. They have to yeah the future is never now guys
I'm not allowed my clip, but it's okay.
It's fine, and this was still a winter's curse.
We also saw a fantastic winter's curse at the end of the game,
which was the whole reason why LGV was able to go high ground to begin with,
because snaking hit a marvelous one.
I'll just describe my clip in great form.
So basically why...
I'm locking it.
I'm locking it.
So there's a bottom fight happening, okay?
And the drought and the decay are coming from the tier one bottom.
But as they're coming through, Wyvern solo smokes himself.
He walks towards the tier one, but he holds the position in the river.
Okay.
cursed until he identifies the fight has progressed. He waits for the DK to blink in. Once he blinks
in, Armin believes he's protected by the DK blinking in and then Wyvern hits the curse from the smoke
that he's held by himself the entire time. Other players that have broke that smoke would have
got a little giddy and I just gotta say. And just look at the minimap right now.
Look at the minimap. Just as I described it, okay? You have the Drow and the DK so late to this fight
You could even question why XG is trying to take it, because they're now just TP'ing in.
I'm questioning why XG is trying to take it.
Amen. And the Wyverns, still, you don't see him on the screen, because he's smoked.
He's disappeared.
A-bap-bap-BOOM!
Snaking comes in!
Bam!
Truly beautiful.
And the entire time, Brother was just solo smoked.
Like, it was just exceptional donor.
I was so in awe of, like, him just understanding, like,
I don't need to do anything, my team's winning the fight.
If anything else happens, that's when I turn up.
So, I know it was a really long-winded way to save, cool.
we go there in the end. Very cool. No, I think we got out of this game. We got we got LGD's best form
because we said this is the best game we've seen them play thus far. This is not extreme gaming's
best form. We've seen them play better. So we want them to also perform at their best form and then
we'll see who comes out on top and potentially that's going to happen in game two after a break.
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Yeah, it's... at some point it becomes really boring.
It is like everyone has nine items or something like that.
Yeah, I agree.
And I think just like a better aspect in Dora, so I can put it nine.
Nine. There's no ten otherwise I would put that.
I would say eight, but I didn't find it.
Nice.
Yeah, he's full of heroes, they have too much damage and they have too much HP.
Yeah.
Make them 600 HP max slow-tem again.
Yeah, I think it was a pretty low-skill part of the game to be honest.
Yeah, I think I chose two because I didn't play professionally at that moment.
I see. But anyway, I suppose it was very bored to do that.
Yeah. I mean, looking back, it's actually one of the only things I feel that was actually low-skinned in the processing before.
Can't wait to know.
I mean, there's no 10, otherwise I would say 10.
I mean, for me, the nine is the top.
I also am a fan of Yadoro, but I don't choose nine because it's a lot of respect.
But I'm also very fan of him.
Nice.
Okay.
I mean, I enjoyed like, I guess I enjoyed more than non-playoff games, you know, I
You know what I mean?
Like, when it's time for playoff games,
there's nothing more enjoyable than that.
But otherwise, strategy and game is, like, kind of safe.
I mean, I really enjoyed to, like, make my brain to work,
because I'm very, very proactive.
So I came to stay quiet.
I'm always doing, like, so much to try to see my mind.
It's every time.
game. Game two coming your way
between extreme gaming and LGD.
We are in the upper bracket.
Round two of P. J. Well, I guess
season nine and LGD one game
up. They've just played the best
game. They played just thus far
here in Bucharest. We're going to
see if extreme gaming and
climb to their level because
that's not what they did in
game one. But we know that they
if there's any particular heroes they felt like were the cause of this stellar game by
LGD. And to be honest, it feels hard to pinpoint a particular hero, Kezu, that I think extreme
game could really target in this game.
Yeah, I'm not sure either, because it's not like they had any crazy type of picks.
Doom Offlane, very generic, mid-pango.
It's like not even that heroes are banger at all.
Heroes' winner is quite low, doesn't do that well, but Sumail did still very well, you
know the other heroes so I think it's a bit more about what they actually want to do and
making sure that they're also finding timings to do it together.
One other thing I would like to criticize a bit from XG is I think when you play against
the Tri-Core of Doom, Sven and Pango, you should be looking at four staffs to kite them out.
I don't think they had one only which is on army later in the forms of a hurricane pike.
None of the supports build four staffs so just to think a bit more understanding of how the
enemy team is actually going to beat you.
And it also helps that when the LGD drafted, they did push XM to get to the DK, right?
The Earth Spirit was gone, the pangol was taken away, Ember was banned by XG.
It's like, I think you don't really want XM to be on a hero that farms well, but needs other people to thrive.
I feel like his best type of shooter is like, his own farm translates to his own damage.
And then if you join him, it only compounds to a scarier fight.
I know DK is rising in popularity, like BGM put on a good reason why the hero was good at it.
He was 4-0, I think before today, then of course different story now, but...
Eh, DK, it's okay, but I kinda want a bit more kill threat with the DK,
rather than just hoodwink on dying, like if you want to pick the hero.
I do think that's a point to that, because overall, like, the way XM thrives is that he is a lot more of like the anti-mid type of guy,
who usually like owns you and lane, which I do think DK has the capability of doing,
But he's generally, I think, on pretty much different heroes, so I fully agree.
It could also just be a matter of how well Sumo is laning in this tournament and just consistently.
It's like maybe they're like, okay, we want to pick a hero that can lane better,
even though there was like pucks and storms available. It's like, okay, what if our lanes go
bad and then suddenly the drought is getting ran at and problems exist, right? And they could just
be overthinking how strong Sumo is in the mid lane, just for his laning prowess.
Too bad you can never overthink that, too bad. That is a constant.
Just overlooking at the starting picks, I think again the Windranger has looked good.
It is a flex, you know, Wits can play it, the Odecor looks pretty good I think on a
last game too, so giving you a little bit more of the draft flexibility is quite good
against Doom.
As a support you have full freedom of what items to buy, what are you doing?
Pashara, the Vessel, some 4-staffs as a carry, you're also very good in the matchup.
So I think both teams should be pretty happy with the starters here.
And Doom is in XG's head though, like the fact that OGD outgrew it, like getting more
respecting the hero and now you enter this draft and it's like XG has taken it away themselves.
In the tournament, it's been a later pick for them. They have utilized it against Pibles,
they lost against Coventus with it. They beat LGD of course in that game too. To promote
it to a first overall pick, that's like in regards to draft value, it's like we need
to get rid of this from LGD.
Yeah, it's definitely both that and also the fact that I think there's a lot of respect
you need to put on like Snakings and Chantris, which at least this summer on, you know, they
I didn't ban it, at least you have Doom that kind of covers it, you're quite happy if you
do lane against Enge at the end of the day.
And LGD are doing the same thing I did last game where Sark is banned, you know, maybe
there's another way where they're looking at a hero like Kango again on the double pick
later down the line.
I mean, Void for it's also open, so any of the melee bros, the Pango is the Void for
it's the whatever's, you can casually pick it on 16-17.
Who'd make a seal on the pool?
By the way, I mean, if I'm seeing Windranger and Willow, my mind automatically goes to
the hero that completes the trifecta, which would be Goodwing.
I think both that. Also Enchantress is a hero that Baboka has played in this tournament.
And then at the other game, obviously you had to ban it out against Snaking,
who was undoubtedly, I think, the best edge that is currently still playing in the pro scene.
I'd like to see a world where XG can get their hands on the clink at the end of this phase,
just for the way in which they're playing.
I do get that Willow has a realm and Windrunner has Windrun,
so you kind of already counter the things in that regard.
It would be nice to have this hero returned to Axge, he didn't get very very comfortable in the hero.
Yeah it's definitely true, I think in the games where they look good is that Ami had a good lane and then he could like translate it into something.
It's a lot more, it's way harder to do on Drao.
Like your first two items on Drao, they don't really change your game, you can go some dragon lands, you can go Yasha but it's not really like some power spike.
If you're clean so you go around and you get a couple kills, you get closer to your Deso, then you finish your Deso, you take some towers, you can take the roll shallot earlier.
I could definitely see that.
It's also so easy in that previous game for him to struggle under the triple initiation they have, right?
Like the doom, the slend, the pango. It was very easy to punish army one time, if not, you know, three, four times.
That actually happened.
Taking the pango as well.
They just almost, I mean, you know, actually it was like, that looked nice.
That looked good.
Didn't happen earlier though, where like, one man lost a game of Legion and they kind of copied two of the heroes and then...
They did, like starting the next draft.
At least this time around, I do think that there is decent purpose to the pango.
Because Ench pango play pretty well together.
Also, they band Slark, you know, there's a way that they could be thinking about it.
Obviously, they won't be unhappy about getting a voidspray, but also actually, they look good on it.
XM is very good on the hero, so I'm totally fine with it.
Yeah, both drafts are relatively even at the moment.
We've not really had a single pick that shifts the balance in one way.
I think both of them are set up for relatively stable lanes.
has wits played much nature's profit like one of the other reasons i like the edge pick a lot is that
what we have seen is that something you can do is that edge could lane against it i think wits is
playing win range he is doing that for sure i think that is we okay for people that weren't there at
the very start of the series lgd has played bounty hunter as you can see on the screen twice we've
seen the stats this was also it was a couple of days ago we got to respect that there we have it
didn't look good there was a major difference I believe and I'm just
trying to you know benefit that let's see how hard this cope is so basically
the world's best anyway I think first phase bounty hunter is very different to
second phase bounty hunter where the type of map play from xg it doesn't break
the entire map instantly they kind of go for like sweeping pick offs of pangolir
inch might try and contest the tower but I think that alone the three heroes
means bounty can set up the deep vision kill a couple couriers he knows not
going to like lose everything before it happens. I think the game that GD played before, he
was against embers and crystal maidens, he was running into the jungle, instantly dying
to a root, disappearing, Tionicord is feeding, it was awful. But like this type of setup,
he is going to be the tranquil drum bounty running around, like no major lockdown against
him, it's a very different bounty game.
But it was not just the gameplay and the myth game that we felt like was a little bit hampering,
it was also that the lane that he has with Divide, Divide normally relies on a position
that maybe sticks around a little bit more. They also have last pick in the draft. They do. So they will see everything, and then the Vi will get a better pick. It'll be like an underlord or a tide or some like hero that looks at PL and goes bounty, I don't need you bro, I'm perfectly fine against this PL.
Yeah, for instance, you need to ban Darkseer plus one if you're XG here and to the bounty point for sure
It is a you already against N. She has good purpose. You're a high armor. You can trade quite well, but I am still
Skeptical obviously like you said cheaper. There's a couple days you can learn like bounty is a type of hero
You need to change your mindset. It's very different from playing your range follow-up support guy
Well, you can ban as well like with the necro band is also acts against the PL the Darkseer that Kessie mentioned
And there's easily like 5 plus off lenders that look quite comfortable in this field.
Axe is quite good too.
Yeah.
Let's see how they can cover that on XG.
And like you look at his hero pool that he's played right, it's like the Axe, the Darkseer,
both very prevalent in the tournament so far.
Timbersaw's still in as well.
To be fair, outside of the Vyze pick, it is a very good looking PL game.
You pretty much say if there's no way to take towers on a draft, if there's limited AoE damage and
If there's no way to lock you down
They're like the big three winners for a PL and how did you don't kind of have any of it?
I think the saving grace is when Ranger if you find the real PL and you focus on him
You can't just kill him
But of course you are just hoping to have that information in the chaos of a fight with like rolling thunder ripping through
Timber is now out. Yeah, and that dark seer is in
There is one thing about picks also that needs to be respected, like when you close phases with heroes, if they have multiple S tier counters, you sometimes need to think, was our pick that good?
Because I agree that it's good against those four heroes, but we now mentioned multiple heroes that in my mind I would be very happy with, you know, counter picking, like Ami with in this game.
And I would agree that Necro and Timber are two heroes that you kind of cannot beat, and maybe your Doom can like cover the Darkseer if that's coming out, but still, not fully free.
Maybe it's like you picked like a Rubik here for Jean-Cuban, it's like the Rubik will protect you from the Underlord, the Doom will protect you from the Darkson.
You then ban out the Nekka and the Timber and it's like, okay, we've kind of covered four heroes, and maybe we're okay with it?
And that is one way to look at it.
There is a lot of reserve time left for LGD, by the way, which I normally think, especially this late into the draft is a good sign.
everything kind of went according to plan and extreme gaming didn't throw any
weird things at LGD, the problems they had to solve. They ban out the keeper of
the light at the end of the day. Okay, I mean that's it. They've taken away two
supports that would run with the pango quite early in the game, create a lot of
noise and then you look at our main go, oh god it's got Mantar and like two items
what do we do Mantar Ag sorry. So I can respect the support bands but...
Hmm. Yeah, what else is in Ginkyu's wheelhouse? I kind of like the Rubik suggestion. I think that would be quite cool
No, it's a little left. I think the pick-off potential in OGD
It's still very single targeted and how they approach it
So if you do find the right PL having that get out jail card with the rubik would be quite nice
There's cool things to steal. Yeah
Bounty of the E kind of don't steal a bad spell from bounty
But they're going for techies
Okay, that's also a another cover for a you know if Darkseid were to come out
Which obviously is it's just one of the heroes you have to think about when you play PL and on top of the fact that LGD have bounty for
There's not that many good like offline dual ends that you can craft that are happy. They take is also helps stabilize
The game against LGD where it's all about kind of walking into areas trying to find these like little smoke plays in this place
And of course tacky sports that really nice thing with his
proximity mines
And the map is quite annoying. No like against this draft. There's some eventual man to style. There's an inch creep running around
There's mines here so the creeps are stronger smacking you in the face. Yeah, like it's definitely annoying
I guess with LGD what you mentioned earlier, especially now with all the bands
I think axe goes higher in value in my mind compared to the other heroes
I think I want to see the axe most because it gives you a way to actually lock down a hero and lane
Like the underlords and the other options. They just feel a little
too uh
Too lackluster in the team fight. Oh, they do go for the dark. So like it made a lot of sense to me earlier
I think it's still fine, but at the same time if you look at XG
I think they banned two very good heroes then they covered in my mind the darkseer quite well
You know and she's not like horrible against Darkseer. You have techies. We'll see if they want to do something with the lanes
I'm not sure obviously you could you know
You could put the techies into the safe lane have the inch lane in the off lane
But overall I think it rounds out their draft quite well
I just wonder if they may regret taking Darkseer over the axe
But like when they take the darkseer the way that we just saw them play the previous game
where it's like minute 10, 12, they're bringing five heroes to the fight.
I want to see the same thing. I want to see like the Vi thrush show into his voice spirit,
the voice where it's jumping in. He's like, even if you die to a doom, just reset go again.
I think like LGD have this like beauty of skirmish with their lineup, that like every item
will keep going forward. But in the back of your mind, it is an arm APL. They do have the covers
to protect themselves from the dark zone, like we've already mentioned. I'm just interested to see
if LGD can play such an aggressive game, with Sumo and the Vi always being on the same page.
I think this is these two players need to really just have the synergy in this other game
Yeah, this time around I would say that XG have perhaps a little bit more comfort for their own
I think Zill on the doom has looked very good XM last game didn't really impress much
I think his pango is way better
So I will be expecting a lot more of a competitive game instead of LGD just destroying them
Yeah, also, Fioracore isn't playing the bounty hunter. I was snaking taken. Okay, there we go
He wants the melee body to lay with the wind ranger again will a bounty technically both could be played four or five
So kind of in this draft, they just want to have the melee range combos to be able to take the fight
But Darkseer and Willow, is that going to be like a lane swap potentially where
Snaking plays with the Viour, or are we going to see a Willow Darkseer lane?
I mean I guess Willow Darkseer is fine, but I also wouldn't be surprised if they do swap the lanes
I feel like even for XG, they could be doing the same thing
You want the techies perhaps even more against a Darkseer than your ench, so
Interesting. Interesting. I mean, I think the main question is did extreme gaming, you know
pick up the slack because it wasn't just a draft previous game that didn't really click.
And on the other side, can LGD repeat that consistency that we saw on that game one?
You mentioned it, Tegith, are they on the same page?
I'd like to think so. You don't go from game one playing like that to game two and then,
what are we doing? Well, we played a good game. We have to be bad now.
Like, I'd like to think.
It's a different style, though.
It is a very different style. Maybe that kind of catches in that of a guard, I think.
Knowing that you have the late game as well helps your aggression,
because you have that insurance this time it's like you make a mistake in the back of your mind
you're like my mistake might lose us the game and that's often what hurts to buy in dota is that
overthinking that might hurt them in this game we're gonna find out before we go into the game
though we are gonna head over to nomad who's talking to bulba hello yeah i'm here mr bulba bulba
game one looking super super clean i mean is that how you're expecting the game to go
I think if we got our items yes because like I may hadn't played draw in a while
so I mean look early game looked a little bit like the brew was in the snowball
but yeah I think he'd made some mistakes now you've had this team going for a
little bit of time now obviously still early days but what's the biggest
surprise about this team so far from your coaching experience surprise I
I guess we think we're gelling, um, decently.
I think, uh, everyone's having quite a bit of fun.
Like, you don't really know how people are going to get along and stuff, so...
Yeah, I think, uh, yep, that's kind of the main stuff.
Is that something you're worried about, knowing that it's such an international team coming together?
Do you think you can have your work out for you in that regard?
Well, we are technically, like, uh, Lama actually has US passports,
so we're all, like, everyone is actually from the Americas.
ignore their South America, so it's not like no Europeans, technically.
Perfect, alright, a new American team coming through then.
And yeah, well finally, what do you think you're going to be able to take advantage
of of XG in the second game?
They took the AMAPL, so it just should be about if obviously if he gets really really
farmed I think the game could be hard, but the goal is to stop it.
So yeah, let's see how that one goes.
Let's see how it goes, Bob, good luck and we'll send it to our castes of OD Pixel and
Fog.
Thank you very much there, no matter how long they are. Game 2 time here between HG and LGD.
I believe we have a little, we have a listening actually from one of the teams earlier.
We'll see if the production ever run that. See what the players had to say coming into this game too.
But before we get the RIPL, it's gonna be there.
Oh, but I'm gonna do a little hit to scan.
All the Seraphimals, guys. It's just another pop game, guys.
Let's make sure we stay calm in fights, hit them easy into us, take long and slow fights.
That's clean and clear communication with each other and play for all pressure.
There we go, so we'll just try and bait them in which worked out very nicely last game from LG obviously baiting XG and that played early on that went very badly for XG
and led to the beginning of some great plays for LGD in the long run so we'll see if they're able to do it again coming into this one.
What you make of this? Trust in the RMA PL or do you think LGD are going to be able to slow them down or at least
Oh, you know, it's stopping from ever getting online
He looked so good on in that other game the other day, right?
And there is definitely some limited ways to control him in this game
They have good ways to at least if they can identify the real PL the win ranger, right?
Do you ever get the real focus fire?
That is always a very good element and the way you itemize is nice because you go them you'll near build so I can definitely see it
But I would say LGD
They need to have a very good early game this time right last time they had a more of a greedy type of style draft
the flip is you know the switch has been flipped it's a pl doom on one side with the pango it's
essentially the same type of greed that they went for last time on the side of xg so lgd i'd like
to see them play with that advantage this time and what do you make of the last bit going with the
dark seer it's not at a great win rate here and there are heroes that could trip it up this game
yeah i think it's it's like a slight insurance policy kind of in a way because yes you might suffer
in terms of some of the early game, but in the later stages, you know, that kill
loses into the amazing seals. Very likely, Dad.
Absolutely, looking like a first plus. They try to give it a win, and they'll succeed in doing so.
First blood here for the carry.
They did a bit of a name-switch up, too. Snaking is playing the bounty hunter.
Theo, of course, is playing the willow. So we did see Theo playing the bounty the other day,
so just a total switch of identity, maybe, in a way where snaking may be more comfortable on this hero,
in particular, in comparison to him.
because otherwise you wouldn't really expect this type of a lane swap because
snade plays willow. So this is interesting. I don't know, Darkseer, I think in some of
these games, I think it's been forced. You don't see your opposing carry, you
know, you don't see anything you're playing against in a lot of things. People are just
like first picking it. I don't think this hero's bad, especially when you see an
adji carry. You know, you have something to play around, you have two different
targets that you can use the ion shell as well too. I don't know, this one looks like
one of the better Darkseer games for me. Yes, there's Taser, which is very annoying.
So it's hit me with the doom, but he's got a clear target to wall
Absolutely, I mean so you'd say it's sort of a similar thing as the pango that we saw from last game
Obviously, we're gonna see this guy's next time another hero is kind of around this 20 so 20 or so percent win rate
Yeah, but you think neither of those are kind of true to actually where the hero stands right now
I don't think so at all. I mean just personally maybe I maybe I maybe some of the mid laners will say totally different event about it
But I don't know I've just been watching some of these pangos and it looks like he trades pretty decently versus most of the heroes
And we saw Sumail pop off last game, so.
So, thanks.
Be able to get in this time, but I'm
going to send the potential to the combo there.
Just a quick Brown Bulls will always set up for a pretty much
fully charged Power Shot.
It's a nice lane to play versus Techies,
because sometimes Taser can be very disruptive
for some of these carries.
But this lane, right, they have a lot of magic damage
between the two of them.
Even if a Taser comes out, they have Power Shot,
they have Brown Bulls, they have a realm
that can hit, they can use.
We have to talk about the other thing too, right?
Sumail, he has to get mentioned so much.
He's playing his Void Spirit.
He kind of owned the other day on it as well too, so looking forward to see how much he can do with this hero too, just the rise of it.
Got three games and has won every single one of them on the Void Spirit here. Vlachia, some out.
Let's see how much snaking can do on the Bounty Hunter. I do feel like he is a well-mourned, way-versed Bounty Hunter compared to Theo, nothing against Theo, but
back in my day when I used to play with snaking, we used to pick snaking off lane Bounty Hunter.
Then that's 13 years ago. So this guy plays a ton of the heroes
So he knows all the little tricks and he's gonna be able to probably give some good information for the team to
With these iron shells with the end this a lot of damage to the bokeh almost kills it
Absolutely nearly takes him down there with the iron shell
And he's already doing some of the tricks for the darks here plus bounty where you get shallow you go max distance away
So if I'm farmed the vibe
So I'm stinking might have been able to dance around with him a bit as the bounty but divine the dog
Looks like it's caught and killed off.
Mm-hmm. Still has to respect the enchant that Dispel is going to come into play.
And now let's see what Baboka can do. Now that the lane is going to be broken,
they're probably going to leave Arme alone,
and Baboka is going to look to enable as much as possible.
So, Snipe is to follow, give as much information to for them.
That's exactly what I'll do.
Just follow the ench.
Bounty historically versus like ench, ench, ench, these heroes has always been pretty damn good.
You just follow him, give good info for your team.
He's trying to make an aggressive move for Theo Le Corbe around the trees, he's going
to be alright.
And now he's in Q.
He might be dead, Witt's can he finish him off?
He's going to go for it with the windrun, he's going to get it, another kill here.
For the safe flank duo, good jackal.
Great connection.
He sets up for the brown balls.
They're going to die for this, they're going to have to shout around here, he's going to
try and hide behind the trees.
There is the Whippo's there from Wittz to head on forward, give them the vision to make the connection.
They both survive and Wittz, he's getting a lot out of this lane.
He's getting kill up to kill up to kill and he's getting free farm.
And it was XG looking for the aggressive move themselves, they're going to lose almost a double.
If he doesn't TP very quick soon here, he's going to lose like, yeah, three ranked creeps.
He'll be there in time for input.
Great aggressive moves, as we've said, LGD looking to set the tempo of this game for themselves.
Lane, Lane's looking good.
Darkseer is playing the lane.
Sure, he died once, but look at his CS.
He's getting grace, yes. Yeah, he's farming.
Obviously the pressure is not necessarily there though, to army, army, as the PL.
He is having free farm here in the safe lane.
And PL in comparison to Drow, honestly, especially at the scene that last game of the Drow does not look that great.
It looks very hard to play, PL probably in a better position overall in the state of Dota at the moment.
Wisdoms.
Baboka's gonna look for the contest versus Divy, snaking is going for the
steal with Sumail. It should get both. Yeah, I do think so.
Baboka's gonna die.
He certainly is. The Iron Shows out, Sumail on top of it. Both wisdoms.
Hey, for LGD? LGD, alright. Today is looking like their day. This is a hot
Start the things here, dodge 200 in view.
She's too completely up with the spells there, it doesn't make any connection.
Incredible early game right now, 4-1, 2k lead at the moment as you said,
even though they're still farming on the pangolin, the PL, some very good aggressive moves as we're seeing.
And they're gonna have good ways to utilize that iron shell, as we said,
the Void Spirit, one of the better ones to carry it.
I'm looking forward to see what they're gonna be able to do to shut down this, keep this PL down,
But yeah, the inevitable thing is always going to be there.
If it gets 35, 40+, or so, and I'll make sure to shut down the game, it will be hard.
So, looking to play quick, playing our power runes, that's him.
We'll be safe.
Gets the fill up as well.
He's got the rolling thunder.
Not super easy to go for a kill play onto something like Void Spirit.
This is very elusive.
Yeah, XG, very much so more about hitting the creeps this game, with the Doom and the
PL.
Snaking.
Little bit deep, steal some money.
Another D-Ward.
Zeal's game is a lot slower than we did see, like, the Vi getting away with.
I think the Vi was at a similar level as right after this, where the Vi just catapulted forward,
So we will see in the next few moments where they do go from here, in terms of just greed.
So the name of the game is 100% greed for SG.
Stacks to be made until we try to enable the pango as much as possible.
They don't have a spend to clear those stacks though, so it's not as efficient.
Probably what still gives them to...
I mean, yeah, they're not really making many stacks over on the side of LGD.
They don't need to, with their draft, they're more about pressuring rather than playing for the stack game.
Let's say, SG's more about stacking. Snaking?
Can they kill him during this timing?
Dust is wearing off?
He's...
How do you get the Imbers back off?
Yep, he's gone.
And just bit of a swing and a miss for Gincute.
Didn't miss the... He missed the bomber and the blood grenade.
Oh, he missed the blood? I didn't see him.
Oh, yeah, okay.
He put both of them out. Snaking, instead of walking past him.
So, Snake King dodging quite a lot here.
He's being annoying. Look at the war that they placed too.
I think the skeletons were still there blocking it, but he is all about stopping the greed.
He finds a courier too.
Heads up move so far here.
Looking to smoke up as well. This is a super early level 6 deal.
The core has it already on the willow.
Alright, Jinkyu this time. Surely, they'll get him.
Mid lane. Connection up to XM, deal is 6.
That top lane, they completely owned it. This is one of the earliest six you do see on a willow.
Pre-10 minutes.
That's a rough death.
Yeah, unless for XM.
Sumel's having his number.
He certainly is, and we saw last game XM did start fooling behind quite a bit on his DK.
Sumel's just playing so well. Every game.
I have to say, it's not even just the games that they're winning.
Top lane!
Another one here for LGD.
They're just looking better.
I mean, all their moves are hitting.
Zeal and XM's game, it's going to take quite a bit to recover.
And obviously, the carry is a Pio, and Armay,
he's not really going to be able to do anything aggressive
to kind of fix things for his other cores.
So if XM and Zeal continue to fall off,
this game is going to get so hard.
It is.
How do they keep this game going to buy time for Armay
to get to the point where he can carry?
Techies.
You farm, and you're going to have to play the delay game.
They do at least have that with the proximity mines
and all that but yeah absolutely LGD has ways to deal with it too they have
dominator creeps like mines are the only answer you just send the dominator
through you have ways to tank that very good oppressive move so yeah this this
is just really really rough yep and look it's making another how many ops
what is that the third or fourth ops word he's found as well yeah that's that
actually don't even know he's gotten at least at least two but maybe even three
or four now there we go look at that so truly holding in terms of control so
So he had destroyed 5, yeah.
It's pretty even across the board actually, the power's being split, but in terms of an
individual, yes, taking at the top of the game in terms of destroying wards.
And Divai, he's just getting to do the ideal Darkseer thing that we've been talking about.
Where you just get to sit back, go for your Shiva as your shard play after having the Dominator.
He's even dragging waves away to keep the farm going.
Yeah, Sumail, that's the vessel now done.
So even higher kill threat onto some of these heroes.
You can get lucky on the power rune, he is nice, can he top?
I might still make it there before then.
And another kill.
With six kills already this game.
Just a totally different player.
He's looking like night and day difference at least today.
And compared to some of the other days we did see from just super confident plays.
Yeah, I'd love to see it.
I mean it definitely felt like some of the blunders on the other days were probably
Look at this.
It's related in this series today, which
come in with full confidence.
They're destroying them.
I mean, they are.
They really are.
5K lead.
And with XG continuing to have their mid and offlane
full further and further behind.
And look at Sumer, scouts out Ginkyu in the treeline
really quickly, drops a remnant just in case of the blast off.
He is on point here.
You heard it from Snake at the start of the game.
So everybody, just play your own game.
Be confident in yourselves.
We are absolutely seeing that confidence right now.
Hot start to everything, and you have the two,
the Zeo being shut down so much, and XM, right?
That's the big deal.
The fact that XM has now died twice,
and he's the one that has to make the spaces.
We did see Sumeru doing the last time.
Ami might have to actually turn up with just Manta
in some fights to try to assist things,
but definitely not the easiest game
for him to do so versus these heroes.
Because if he turns up and dies,
then it sort of feels like it's truly over.
Yeah, so maybe he doesn't, and maybe they just have to deal with the fact and accept the fact that this early game has happened and they have to hope they can protect
some of these areas, but yeah, snaking it, very disruptive with the ways he just invaded, boarded, giving info.
So you have to do want to make a move onto Ame soon too, because that's the power of Bounty Hunter too, is you just will know where he is at all times.
We'll need we're like they some mail or at least the other core. Yeah, one of the cores post the support
They needed that big time that was so close to him getting burst
Snape will probably just be able to walk away from that doom. This time the XM very important they do protect him to get that role.
Absolutely, it looked like he was going down, but ended up being a very calculative bait there from him and the boys on XG.
Yeah, perhaps for ZinQ you just sit behind XM. Hope that whenever they go on him you have that way to counteract the play.
the play.
So you get him on the replay.
Now every reason for some other telecords to go for the sort of move with him showing
in the river, the backup inbound here as JinQ jumps in, XM gets the roll off the can
have quite enough to burst through him before he can get it off.
I may.
They are bringing that pressure to him.
It's taking five to the right one.
Not quite.
building up mid lane again though XM
but instantly go on him yeah this time
I mean the backup was still kind of there
but just not quite close enough so too
fast doesn't work out this time of the
old plate just ends up dead the witch
turning up again into the mid lane
well they had a great moment
kind of a 20 seconds ago in that mid
and then not such a great moment
afterwards where they're like hey let's
do that again but let's do it worse it
didn't work out and I will say for it I
didn't want to pick so much but I think
in that last one you can execute as the willow a little better if you do the terrorize.
Yeah you can do the terrorize with that plus then afterwards to bed them.
I think from now on we'll see him do that because just even half a second more of Disable
and they would have had to kill there off to the hang-up.
Oh snagging. It's sort of just stealing these jungle camps with the iron shell.
Then blocking them afterwards he has turned everything to be as annoying as possible for this PL.
He is in his true comfort. As I said he's been playing this one over a decade.
over a decade because maybe that was the thing where they just sort of came into this game too and
snaking was just kind of vibing he was feeling the bounty hunters like let me do the bounty this
time yeah you go to the top lane with the willow i uh i'm gonna have some fun on the bounty and he
he certainly is he's locked in and doing everything possible to be as much of a nuisance as he can
Theo's bounty left something to be desired i will say snakings it looks great he's very
coordinated with the vias well too and yeah like you said just blocking all these camps that's
going to be very annoying it's really ak lead very impressive that they've gotten this point
Ame though, at least sticking close in terms of the numbers here to the other course.
He's got quite a heavy game to carry though Ame.
Especially because he's into the Darkseer too, that's the other thing, right?
The fact that they have this and Davai already has Shivas, they've got great ways to answer him.
Is that one of the fastest ones we've seen on a Darkseer?
I think so.
Honestly, with the Wimrate, the Darkseer's out of here probably is.
Yeah.
Because this hero's been losing a lot.
It's looking like one of the better ones for the Darkseer, just overall game state, everything pretty much.
I mean, maybe that's one of the reasons why Darkseid doesn't have such a great win rate.
Has that been a hero that in other drafts it's been picked a little earlier?
Yeah, yeah, that's what I was saying, you know, you're getting just nothing to say to the last thing.
It's been picked early and it's been picked from like Spens and Tiny's and other heroes that you
don't counter available. But this game, this situation you absolutely see.
Oh yeah.
This is where you want to see a Darkseid come up.
The supports are annoying in terms of landing aspect, right? And Shinteki is the taser,
then Chan, blah blah blah. But in terms of game overall, you itemize very good versus
PL and you always get the PL illusion in the army. So yeah, it feels like one of the best
PL or best arc series games and best arcs you've picked that we've seen so far here and
absolutely executing, he's about to be top net worth.
It's G. We were shaking off pretty badly last game and it looks like the whole sort of feeling
of that's followed up into the second game of the series. Yeah, at this point they're
They're probably not looking to make their own aggressive moves, they're probably going to have to play pretty responsive and that can be a pretty dangerous way to play.
Sure, PL, if he gets to a certain point, can be crazy strong, but they do absolutely have some answers for him.
The Wind Ranger with the Mjolnir, the Darkseer illusions, even Void Spirit if he gets big enough, sure.
At least to a certain point.
See how much more they do want to strike because there is some passive play coming in from
the side of LGD right now when they do have some timings too, right?
They have the sheaves finished, so they could look to strike.
Another ops ward by the way taken out by snaking.
And this is annoying.
You know, PL, Tera Blade, these heroes, even Nagas on all the Illusion ones, right?
You want to be able to shove lanes out, get that extra farm.
If your illusions just keep getting rinsed when they shot through the lane, it can restrict you.
And here we go.
LGD looking for that next hit.
Sumail with an egg damage.
They do look prepared for it though.
SG, they'll fight B.O.
Just about to go down to where we've been before, so let's just get the roll up.
If they can get anything with this, we could lock down around the stairs onto the Alicor.
They get the reset versus the Rolling Thunder.
They look to strike again, Sumail thinking about it, but he did use both steps.
It's the one for one.
The Rolling Thunder used, and LGD can continue chasing Impression, and it's another D-word.
GQ jumps in and it's about making a run.
Oh dear.
I mean XM, considering how much they do want to dive for and snakings in.
Now they're pushing forward for this.
They do a little deep.
It's a little deep.
They poke at him from the high ground, it's very large.
They're all playing them, out macroing them, out moving them too.
Just the instant reset away from the rolling thunder.
It's good that XM of course buys the shards so we can get the roll up,
but they just instant reset.
Sure you get a willow kill, but you end up getting two plus you bait a big cool down on the side of LGD
The I'm a PL it's time for him to shine agonist is out
So much he can do it that are how much extra farming can't get
You'd be still playing super fast. Could be careful showing in these lanes
They didn't get a chance to strike there's a vessel on some mail. He's gonna kill you every time solo
the supports are
Really struggling it seems on XG this game. Both the two of them
But both of them are getting caught out and killed by this voidsphere very reliably.
Honestly, Sumail is playing so well. This whole tournament, it really has been the show of him dominating multiple times
Even versus some equivalent counterparts. He is cruising in this game so far. So much pressure.
Okay, keep looking at the map. Look at the sentries and ops by Snape. Besides everything he's dewarded
It's just so much that he's preventing in terms of extra farm. He's blocked ancients again now too. Looking to steal wisdom
He is annoying.
Another one maybe, we'll get the roll up.
Has to use the ulti to reset away.
I'll try to jump him afterwards.
He's going to head up to TP out, they'll try and time the fear, but the roll continued long enough to allow him to get back with TP.
See you out looking for snaking.
I don't want to drop the doom for it.
And he gets outside of the vision.
He's going to live.
Right after he decides to pump it, snag tips him with that.
I think next time you're down to 10k you might have to drop the doom
But hesitations there from zeal misses out the charts
I mean I was here. Snae's being so annoying. He really is 0 1 and 4, but very pesky of the damage information he's given
Okay, actually they're gonna look to smoke they're gonna try to involve on me. They have doom rolling thunder is on cooldown
So roll their teamfight is not the easiest to execute right now with what they're up against
If I would be a big kill, you've got the blink from zeal.
He gets the dispell, but it's the TP's.
I don't know if I'm really up.
I mean zeal, he wants the kill.
The vine is looking fine.
And the backup's coming in.
Now look for snaking instead.
Now get snaking, but it's cost them two lives.
Maybe three.
Sabal gets the grab on a baboka.
These are desperate moves it's looking like.
Just like we need to try to find a court kill,
but look how far it is.
5. This is looking rough for XG, they. So they had a great time at the beginning of
Game 1 but the rest of this series, it's not a great fun. No, nothing's coming together.
Armey's farm is still there. It is. And you want to see something actually crazy. Bring
up the go to plus for me really quickly if you want to see something really crazy. Can
you believe that one? They must really like Armey over at the don't plus headquarters.
I can't see the argument for that one in this game.
I mean, maybe I'm totally wrong about the read-on at all,
but this one does feel like one of the harder ones for DL.
It does, like the big late game carries.
It does.
And PL can be one of those.
And he's, if you sort of ignore everything outside
of the top four heroes, they carry us in a good spot.
He's close to that at the carry of LGDs.
I would be more like 70-30 for the side of LGD right now.
I mean, it does feel like that.
They might be coping a little bit
with the 3rd and plus prediction as he's another team fight, another beautiful combo, and another 3 very likely dead.
GQ is definitely dead.
I think even the 70-30 is generous for me.
Because just on paper when you look at it, right, PL, sure, you can see that there's some lack of lockdown for some of the illusions,
but they have clearly already built up the damage, the lead to have it, and Windranger,
when you have this type of an advantage versus PL, you can't kill it.
You pop them, you'll gain yourself a giver to find the real one, you will clear them out.
I mean that must have caused the Dota Plus win for sense taking it right.
No.
It didn't move at all.
It's very, it's very certain in its belief in our life.
It has some insane reads sometimes, I will give the Dota Plus that sometimes.
Again, you know, our maze game individually, it's looking good, you know, it's got two kills, hasn't died, the farm is good.
But it's a lot, it's a lot he's got to deal with.
It's a lot to grow through.
And it's just, it's the fact that, the other things too is the fact that Zeal is so poor,
right?
Zeal is close to support Network as a Doom, one of the more 3D heroes.
We'll have to see if Ahmeh can't do it.
He's got the Orchid picked up now too, so he is looking to try to join with these fights,
trying to find some extra answers.
That looks like it's a Sumail attempt at an answer, right?
Because Sumail is a big problem right now in the game,
and lacking some control for him.
They're going to smoke, look for a connection.
See if they do find LGD this time,
because LGD has read these moves every single time so far here.
The Vibe, ready for the smoke.
On three and doing it.
They're going to drop the Doom down onto Vibe.
He's gonna bring the full of damage to take out the Vile.
He takes them rolling away as Blitz chases him with the focus fighter.
Is he gonna just kill him?
Uhhh... Oh, it's right!
And set him to live.
I'll take that. I mean, if he gets something more,
it's gonna be pretty huge.
They look to what field and core they get another.
Big kills.
The Vile didn't have Link up when he checked the high low ground.
If you have Link, as soon as he does see them, we'll be able to get it,
but they do get the Doom on him. This time, get Arme involved.
Amé jumping him he is micro Amé
surviving in fact sort of chasing them off that was a really nice micro from Amé
thank you not so lucky and neither was the bokeh
they're neither one of them's career yeah but that was actually a hot buy Amé
It was a nice little micro, and suddenly it was one little misstep there and he does just get brought down there
But yeah, we'll be able to juke them around gets the wrong track wits again having an insane performance this game
18,000 net worth 808 yet to die played the lane beautifully
Has the hydra breath now too cool so more cleave versus P. R
I'm not like taking a page out of the
Some ales book right we saw in his win range. Well back to see how he was gonna hydra breath super early
He was going first hydra breath. You know a couple of hydra's breath
Hydra breath enjoyers on the side of LGD and you have to come especially game like this when you're ahead
Like the e and damage is crazy the stats feel fantastic. He already has BKB. He's already pretty safe in the fight site
Yeah, but this is a very nice step up in the damage output
And now starting to get some towers tier 2 top tier 2 mid there's tier 2 bottom
they can go for soon as well. Still having the ages for another about two minutes.
Look, I'm just sort of going to be telling the team is like, guys, can we just we just stop dying?
Stop dying. Guys, please. But they're trying to find farms.
They're going to play a moment. They're trying to find something.
I mean, that's fair. But if a bug creeps into that, they've been killed off quite a lot of times this game.
They haven't a bit of a rough one. Yeah.
But both could definitely have been with the Ruffer series, I think, out of the two of them, for sure.
He's dying. They'll be charging in a little too much there.
Smoke coming forward, Zeal, trying to find these angles.
More items being delivered, I think BKB now for a device
is going to have that extra form of protection for himself.
It's an easier way to approach the fights.
And XM has to be so careful how he shows himself too,
as we've seen multiple times.
They can almost 100 to zero him in just one disable.
And there's looking at one of them. They see him.
He's got the axe.
Chases him down. XM will get the roll up, but they've got the damage to go through it.
And I love the X pick up as you see there. XM has survived I think four times because he gets roll up off.
Now you don't get the roll up off, you get the silence applied on to him first. You have more than enough damage to follow.
The aggressive build himself going for the axe on top of the defuser breaks. Nobody saves himself.
No protection. He has to rely on his support. We don't have much.
much. Alright, let's see how much it shifts off of an Almey kill.
Surely now it shifts. That one shifted 8%, 7% in one kill or 8%.
He's trying his best to juke around him, but yeah, LGD, like I said, I think we've said a million times this game and the last game, best showing I've seen from them, super aggressive plays.
I mean, and this was always going to be the team with the roster right, it was going to take a bit of time for people to come together, but if it did, and as we're seeing today, it is, this roster has a lot of potential.
Yeah, and Sumail is.
Sumail is a problem teams are going to have to deal with, he is owning the mid lane.
Yeah, he's back on top form Sumail.
All heroes look good.
Yeah, and here is the other people
Won't really look towards you know void spirit and something for a while
That's kind of just been considered a weak hero. Mm-hmm. So me so males turned up what for I think this is fourth game now
This tournament on it. He's winning every single one of them and you know by a clear mile as well
Absolutely dominating
That is great counterpicks still right he forced the pango pick XM picks and then he just counterpicks it with the voice
Bear and we've seen what that looks like because of it
What was it, kid?
Trying to set the trap at snaking it. He's got the damage reduction and XM he's caught again. He's dead in one stun.
Yeah, Shadowwalk, when you have this 15 talent, you can actually run into mines pretty easily as a
bounty hunter as well. 30% damage reduction. You don't care about those booms.
The need continues to grow quite massively.
And they always will have the wall versus the PL, which will just make crazy illusions
in Power Spikes.
I mean, that really is the thing, right?
The one strong element of XG's lineup will literally be used against them.
Exactly.
So any Power Spikes that Almey gets, the wall gets the Power Spikes as well.
Which on Lincoln's ages, every item just keeps coming out.
Money
That was a
And sometimes they're going to support dies. It's not the biggest deal right but when you're playing versus a bounty
Big money I'm in a tough time here the two of them evokers in cute and now multiple linkins
So we said which is bought it
Dubai is going to be going forward as well could probably see Sumail if he wants to as well too doesn't feel like he needs it though
He's gonna octane instead going more greedy
And at this point, they're not finding much farm at all on the side of XG, even Ame at this point now.
That's falling quite far behind, comparison to Witt's.
And he's got an aggressive build for Ame too, right? He went Bloodthorn probably because also he has to be aggressive,
because the illusion just gets that much stronger. This at least doesn't make the illusion stronger.
Not that much, at least compared to Scotty.
Yeah, it just at least gives them a very good chance of killing whoever they get to doom.
Yeah.
If they doom Bloodthorn someone, they can kill that hero.
Yeah, unless they're Link instant. Yeah, well, you're sure they got to get around. Yeah. Now, but
if they can make that connection happen, they can delete one here. It doesn't matter who it is.
See how they deal with the rest of them is, I assume. Yes, naked queues up the Lotus as well,
too. They're playing versus the Doom lineup, so they know how good it is.
And the long smoke, they're looking for somebody here with
Wits, here you go, it's done.
Wits, Wits, Wits. Super quick reaction. Instant Shackle.
Tough times for XG.
And it does feel maybe honestly from Witt's similar vibes to kind of what we saw Skeeter
succeeding with right.
These kind of carries with the stuns right.
The windranges, the syphens, both of them seem to have found that these heroes right
now really fit the playstyle that these carries bring.
100%.
The only difference is with this one to like a falcon's lineup is Amar would never play
Darkseer in his life.
That's true.
Yeah, it's not matter, it's a bit of a different vibe
from what Snakey has around him.
Yeah.
So there's some, you know, some things you can see that there is definitely there, but yeah.
No, no doctrine for R.
This just doesn't fit his place now.
Um, Dubai, look for Zeal.
Can't do them.
He's got a Lincoln's.
We'll get out.
At least he checked. At least he didn't just waste the doom.
We found Hirosh, quickly being brought down.
And there's just no space for XG.
Snaking a very well-versed bounty as we've seen, just really limiting...
limiting farm, scouting, being super annoying.
Getting gone on now is the blood, Dorn.
It's a lot!
He might pop. Yeah, he'll pop.
If that's some singers up, he lives, so two seconds from surviving there, but...
I mean, if I'll make him carry this game, this will be...
That would be absolutely insane. Maybe his greatest carry performance to turn around this game.
It's 26 at 33, so they're nearing that 1k again like they did last game.
I mean if you can get the Scotty, and then the next stop on top of that.
Honestly, he might actually be able to do it.
Quite a ways to go. He might be able to do it.
Potentially 10,000 more gold.
Yeah, there's a reason why even though the 25k down at 34 minutes in,
Dota Plus is like, no, there's still a 40% chance that Radiance is going to win this.
Absolutely insane.
Which you would never see Dota Plus say that.
When there's this incredible amount of network and experience difference, they believe in
RMA's P.L.
The push, see what happens if there is going to be a Rax advantage though.
That does change the state of things as well.
Well, then it's just gonna be these crappy creeps
that are always pushing in
and you have to be the one to answer in the field.
Scotty is done.
But every item, that wall, that much stronger too.
And what do you go next, if you're on there?
What is kind of the final big item
until you get to crime for crazy stakes
and you get the stakes where you can get the access search?
Now, what do you think you go for after Scotty?
Does he want to do butter?
Does he want to do heart?
There's not many other options, right?
I mean, is he the butterfly heart or a vessel?
I guess a Bissell, maybe a Pepe Bissell, that's a good call.
Ah, it's tough, it's tough to itemize this game, truly.
I think you know, I'm at this point, he's giving up sort of asking him to slow down the feeding, he's just...
Team!
He's in his own element.
He's just human-hard.
Yeah, I figured.
I mean, I think a Bissell has its argument too, but...
Oh, just first.
I think they can look towards us.
XM0 found again.
Is this a solo kill?
He's got another astro step in three seconds.
If he hits it, he's got him, right?
He's there.
No TP.
Nope.
Oh.
30 seconds.
They do get the scan.
They're probably going to keep looking for him, right?
I think so.
That's TP's on cooldown.
I think so.
Oh, he's back up.
Oh, it does come up.
Never mind.
Just kidding.
I was looking at the sun else, so he is fine.
He baited me.
I actually was clicking someone else too.
Yeah, we had someone in 32nd, but it went in.
I could have done some else.
Yeah, I could have done some else.
I was looking at that.
Double catapult bottom, they have the banner.
Alright, here we go. The push coming in.
They're destroying my mocha.
of the
Some of the two minutes on the edges for Wits.
Aghanim's now for the Enchanters too. This is a pretty strong one, the little friends
who might catch someone up hard.
I'm just going by himself like that, a little crazy.
He wanted to shove the axe, he wanted to use his aghanims.
Wits, he's got the focus fire onto Armaid.
I think if anything too crazy though, we'll be happy with the fact that they've cleaned up the pool set of barracks here on the bottom of the lake.
He can approach the chill, but it doesn't have to die forward. I'm sure Snakey was like, no!
They don't need to kill Armaid to win the game.
No, it's defensively ancient.
Keep going for these buildings. One minute left on this edge, swinging toward top immediately too, expecting someone to be here.
I'll make those diffuses so switching it up even more so that means anything that's that's sort of kind of like the
cheapest thing that gives the biggest step up in terms of what he can do now
right isn't as a completed item rather than an eagle song or a reaver it's also I think he was something
for the now yeah and I think he was also considering having a Lincoln's breaker himself so he can break the
Lincoln's and get the bloodthorn on the windranger because he needs that true
strike versus Witz. 20 seconds. I think he's debating multiple different options here.
The Aegis on Witz.
Slow sieging. 10 seconds on the Aegis. Witz will start to back away.
Still more to grow. Parasma queued up for Sumerl after the Octurine, Satanic for
Witz relatively soon and they're looking for more PL answers right? Just getting
anti-PL items even the overwhelming blink didn't expect that one from Divy.
That's a nice one. I thought he was just going Lotus or something so he has a dispelled so he
doesn't have to get bloodthorneur. Ah, he's got a defensive B-Cabbie there, is that not enough?
Yeah, sure, I guess so, but I'll say, but if we do see him jump in, get kind of caught and killed off,
he can call it out. Whatever, small nabbing.
He has the Lotus coming from Snake King, so perhaps that's why he's just going more greed
in particular.
That's fair.
He gives a mind shell.
He gives him the Lotus.
Speaking of Snake King, they're making the move, Zeal.
We nearly died.
He's going to be alright though.
Zeal gets back out.
Snake King.
Zeal died.
Okay, they'll still end up dying inside of the base.
Can they get the Vi?
He's potting.
Okay, they'll still end up dying inside of the base and they get the vibe
It's pop the BKB. He's playing it safe
I mean these are trades that take sure as you're losing a call for support, but you're 30 K down
So I want for one. I I can't
Sure, I guess you
It keeps the game going it's something it is a little bit of something here. It wasn't a gem though nothing like that
But at least the kill
The fact that you lose the yellow and zealots you know your core it feels kind of bad
I'm gonna push with Lotus stop
Well jumping very powerful the Lotus was still on hold up for a second there. That's the way with it on
He does. They've got four staffs to bail him out. I think that was Theo Lacarne as well.
Really like Theo's items this game. Didn't really give a talk about his, but...
Blink Force Lotus, about the team just looking to reset away from the dooms, protect versus the dooms.
And that's another melee racks.
Another Lotus, the double support Lotuses. Sumail, as we've said, is done for all the damage.
We have Prasmar online.
Oh, he's got his disperser!
Brax is being pushed, though, even less gold than he's going to be getting.
And even less at the other two cores, this is a super quiet game from XM and from Zeal.
XM more so, though. They've just jumped him every time.
It feels like he shows even for a fraction of a second since the early game.
Pretty much since that 9-minute mark when they rotated mid with the Willow.
Well, it's a massive burst that comes out from Sumail.
He was fairly considerate diving that.
He's got the Lotus.
Let's get Seals Curry out.
He can't even get his Curry out there to get his Sheevas.
This is one of the poorer dooms.
I think we've seen him.
He's about to be surpassed by a Willow.
He would have actually been able to get the Sheevas completely
if he could get that delivery out.
It's out to be the case.
Actually insane.
Now it's...
The buildings matter a lot once you do start getting them versus a PO.
Smoke coming out.
XG.
They don't want to just give a free rush.
They feel like they can't deal with it.
Right.
The heart next on the shopping list.
With the positioning here.
I mean, LGD just camping on the front lines.
PO has his blink.
And that rush, it is going to die very fast.
They're blocking the entrances. Look at snaking.
They're not going to be able to stop this surely.
They pick it all up.
So he's going to get the roll up.
He's actually in.
He went in.
He's probably going to still want to roll on forward or at least away from the team.
I don't think there's any fight to be had here.
I just have to accept the support being in trouble once more.
And now for Sumail, machine 2, and for Bokeh, dead again.
Beyond God like Sumail, beyond God like Wins.
Time to close it.
Just very disciplined plays, the way that they back up and reset.
Even though they're at disadvantage, they back up and give respect to the rolling thunder a little bit and then just go for it.
And Alvay is gonna run in, gets called.
That says that will be the death for 19.
Too much for him to be able to carry this game
as they were so far behind as a team the entirety of this match.
LGD, two games here, back to back against XG
when they show that this roster really does have what it takes
to sometimes be able to bring out these solo stops against the big points.
And very clean, right? No way, like,
oh my god, what kind of a death was that or anything, right?
To do this game. I don't think I saw any mistakes whatsoever. It was just a clean execution
Exchange give it one final attempt
try to kill it for
What device in there is guess the back you walk down to that which ready for the focus fire on to seal
That's about now. GG's called
LGD taking this series to zero
two performances that really goes to show that they are very much eyeing out some of the issues they've had in some of the previous series this tournament.
If you told me this morning that they were kind of going to smack XG in a 2-0, I would not have believed you, but LGD, that was an insane shong from them. They should feel very good about that one.
There's some really good stuff going here between them. LGD taking the series very, very easily 2-0 against XG here today.
And we got an answer to the question if they could perform in the same way they did in game one in game two as well.
They crushed it. This looked like a revamped refresh. We heard the speech from snaking at the very start of that game.
You're like, guys, this played like a pub. I don't know. I mean, I guess this is how they play their pubs, but it did look very comfortable and very smooth and TGov they were on the same page.
No, yeah, it was beautiful. And I'm gonna instantly just say that snaking bounty hunter
Absolutely approved the light for everything. You know, we were concerned with lgd picking bounty hunter
Unfortunately theoretical his performance wasn't too hot
But this time around doing the lane swap putting on the willow in kind of that five roll top
snaking going to the off lane with darks here
But the way he was commanding the map having the centuries having the vision trying to kill couriers
Sure, he died a couple times. I didn't feel like it impacted too much like this is the bounty
why we're scared of the hero, you know, I think Saxron Yandex he's the other big
player in the corner that you're afraid of and now Snakeings reminded everyone
I am a bounty player respect me and they just dominated this game with their
skirmish and I think that's just why it's important to also like respect players
not just simply for their gameplay but what they're capable of doing right him
being like at the start of the game very simple played like it's a part play on
our pressure not on the enemy sometimes you get sucked into like these weird
things that happened by just being able to also like take this hero and like put
the only point what he's comfortable you know snaking has played so many years
and so many games that he can do whatever is good and I think also for
the buy in these two games like this guy sometimes he's very I would say like
inconsistent he overplays a lot I think snaking and all his teams are known for
being chilled you know getting your network going I think the buy has been
insanely high on a network not making any weird plays you know just calibrating
throughout these days they're safe playing too I think in insane over
performance by Wits, Enthiolica and Deadlane too, so from start to finish, just too good.
You have to just respect the concept of the Triker of LGD. I think individually all are some
of the most aggressive players in their roles, right, that you have the Wits playing his Shadowfiends
at the past, Tiny's, the Windranger how he moves, Sumo dominates the mid, Divai is like this chaotic
dude who just wants to get into the mix of every engagement. If you can get them to be balanced
and on the same page, it is very scary. I think this game was that perfect example of like
the game. It's not like it's
a game that's showing their
individual aggression, but it
never leading too far in which
the game got a little weird,
and I think it is kind of easy
mode when you have bounty with
vision and all this stuff
because you're just soaking so
much time. But why not if you
can draft the bounty you can
have these heroes. It is a very
scary prospect, and they finally
unlocked the ability to play
the bounty because of snake it.
11 more is destroyed. I know he
had a stellar performance and
So I think having him on the Banshee Hunter actually probably helps them play even faster than what they maybe normally would
Yeah, for sure. He was also like really on the ball
I think both in game one and in game two when it came to the de-warding just now
It said 11 obs destroyed. Yeah, sure later. You have a gem, but still in the early game
He's just being such a man is from laning early de-warding how he plays his own words. Just a good
Normally when I'm a I don't know why I'm throwing it back to you. She you can do this
No, no, no, you don't make me up.
Sorry, yeah, I was so excited. Sorry.
No, no, no, because we you do get to talk to you go because we want to look at the comparison between Somail and Armei.
Yeah, I've got to set myself up to know why.
But no, I think in this game, the reason why the wind probability was saying like 60 40 to LGD at the 34 minute mark was because Armei was for one and one.
He dodged a lot of this aggression. His net worth was looking good.
His hero damage sure it was like the calm before the storm.
When's it gonna happen? When's the fight gonna occur?
But I think the problem was everything else on XG was crumbling so hard that there never was that fight
There never was that moment that finally the net worth of PL translated and it is always the scary thing when you pick PL
If this happens, yeah
Like you have the farm you have the items but you have no team because they've kind of sacrificed their bodies on that so many times
Just for the sake of you going. Yeah, I look good. Yeah, and I mean I know I know
That's snaking was very good on the bounty hunter
but there was also a lot of people that also looked very good this game because
Theo Likhor playing in his dark willow looked very good as well and I bet it was
quite good sounding next to Nomad as well. That's like you a blue sheep but yes I did
here with Theo Likhor. Firstly congratulations you guys looked like
you're on another level what was different for you guys on this series
compared to previous ones? I think after losing we watched a lot of
for replays, and we understand how they play the map.
And after that, it was easy to play.
You guys are changing very quickly for the good.
One thing you changed in this game
was yourself, who was playing the bounty hunter before,
now playing the willow and snaking, playing the bounty.
Could you tell me a little bit more about that decision?
I think it goes about 200 conflicts,
me and the snake can play, and Willow, probably not.
And that's why I actually really love it.
Sure.
And people have also talked about how quickly
you've been learning on this team.
What kind of things do you feel like you've
been picking up from these players?
I mean, everyone has their own ideas
from their previous team.
I have mine from LGD from the previous team.
It's Ney as well.
But I think it's Ney is adding a lot of this team.
So we're learning a lot.
Absolutely.
Is Snae doing a lot of the leading in-game,
because we heard one of his speeches on the listen-in?
Yes, he's our captain.
For sure.
Another player who's been adapting very quickly is Wittz.
I feel like this is the first series
where we've seen him really pop off and be that carry
that we knew he could be from back in playtime.
Is he showing that confidence outside of the game as well?
Outside, yes, for sure.
But I think inside, if he's comfortable,
I think it would be the best, I totally believe.
Yeah, absolutely. We're starting to see that for sure.
So moving forwards, you know you guys now on the upper bracket final,
I mean, did you think you would get here when you entered this tournament?
Yes, I think everyone was like super hyped to play this tournament
because we could like achieve top three, top four, so like it's looking forward.
Definitely, definitely. And what do you think?
Do you think it's possible that you guys could get the win here?
Is that what you're aiming for now?
I think so, yeah, that's for sure.
I think so too.
If you guys continue this momentum, absolutely.
Theola Kor, thank you so much for coming and talking to me,
and good luck to the rest of Akiya.
Thank you.
Yeah, a lot of good words there from Theola Kor,
and he does play a killer, a willow,
and he is generally just very good on these range supports.
So it made sense, the swap to put snaking on the bounty hunter overall.
Yeah, no, just big props.
So I think being able to show this much improvement during a tournament is very incredible.
I think normally when we look at tournaments and see teams struggling,
then maybe even a good example might be Nave in the lower bracket.
Like, you want the seed improvement, but it doesn't happen.
And like LGD and Aurora, I think these are two teams that are making all these improvements.
And you're like, oh, I'm just so excited.
I can't wait for more days.
I think also like to the like element of how they pick the heroes and who plays what,
it's important to understand that they can also be blunt with each other in terms of like,
what should you do?
I think that I'm good on this hero.
maybe you can play this so then just like coming to a quick conclusion and not like having any hard feelings because
With how they played they were obviously very clean and feeling good about themselves
It showed I'm looking forward to seeing if they can continue this trend in the upper bracket finals
But they don't have an opponent just yet
One more series need to be played for that to happen
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One best of three coming your
way here still today. Four
will lock your season nine and
we got Aurora and Yandex and
waiting in the wings and these
two teams. Something spicy
about them being here up
against each other, taking a
It's quite the storyline. It's the perfect bracket. I could say it's just absolutely flawless. You've got of course all the Falcons lads gonna be going against each other.
You know, MR versus skidder, no matter who wins, snaking there, upper bracket, round three finals, like, you know, what up boys? Who's the best Falcon, you know, I don't know.
You couldn't ask him for even just more beautiful storyline after they disbanded or, yeah, it's good. Let's focus actually first on the challenger, sorry, on the, I guess on the King maybe in this case,
because we have Yandex as the team that actually most people are expecting to take the whole thing
and maybe with LGD doing so well right now because maybe that's slightly changed
but overall this team still is a step ahead.
They have to be the favorites.
Like these guys, like if you just look at how they beat their opponents, no one else is really doing that.
I think now LGD showed some resemblance, I think of doing, you know, the same thing
where the enemy team, they really have no chance at all, but Yandex going into this tournament,
You know we said it before we'll say it again. They have an upgraded roster some other teams
They still need to show that but for them
I am truly convinced that they're an S tier team throughout the entire season
Yeah, I think that is the best description of the day of the S tier team
I think coming into it Aurora and LGD they look very like B tier like they kind of like they're vibing they're doing a thing
They can be other teams that would have great LGD. Well, hold on. Okay, one second, but now
After today LGD is very much stuck themselves as an A tier team
We're going to this tournament Aurora. They have to prove themselves
Are they going to step up like LGD just did against XG?
But yes, we clearly do have a division between Yandex and the rest
But I am so excited to watch over over Yandex. I mean I might have some choice words to what he was gonna do to skidder on his telegram
We cannot show you the clip or the phrase or their words all the words
Yeah, we can show you his tech talks, but the things he said he'd do the skidder was
the game. I mean, it's a
lot of players. Why will
destroy him? Yes, respectfully
within the game. Only had
my car. Let's be real, though.
Aurora. We cannot yet put them
on the same level of LGD. Let
alone. Yeah, next because they
have it. First of all, they
haven't played that today, so
we don't know if they made any
changes, but they are also
showing Jack tree is upwards
and the main. Cause for that
is straight up. Story called
feels more comfortable and it
I think they're doing very well, like even maybe better than, you know, I expected at the start looked a little bit difficult, but just getting comfortable with each other.
And I think also understanding and playing that kind of their gameplay was like, we're trying to abuse the map, you know, they're going to play Mira on Nick, Stoykovich on some of his pick-off heroes, the storm, Delina's skitter on his hero pool that has, he's always looked good on.
And I feel like that type of draft for them has not yet been challenged.
I am just intrigued to know how Stoikov is in a fair against a player like Cherejr,
who is a little bit more chaotic, a little bit more aggressive.
He's willing to play the Monkey King, so Slarkz, the Earthshaker,
to hear as that might out CS you in the laning phase.
I think Stoikov, the reason why he's looked so good,
his laning's just been stable.
He's not been against people that try to outplay him,
because he is just like, alright, I trade fellow of you,
we're going to play an honest mid game, right?
We are going to see a battle of two mids that, you know,
one of them at least will try to have the edge.
And I think also like when I just think overall because I definitely agree with the fact that also CJ
I think to me he's been one of the most improved players
So I think you have two guys that should be quite confident in like their own ability
But also when it comes to the people around them that they're being set up for success
So going into the series obviously the mid-match up it always matters. It does matter
I think overall in this entire series. We will bring up a lot
the ex falcons players and and how can you not when you have for the first time
skater versus Amar that is that is unusual so how is this gonna go down
Kazim? Honestly I have no clue because so the thing is obviously they know a lot
about each other you've played with each other for like nearly three years
you've shared you're probably your biggest wins you know of their careers
at least for Amar you know winning TI with skater but when I look at the
I feel like Amar has quite good heroes when you look overall at how Skidder wants to play.
It's the anti-skidder heroes really.
The only thing Skidder has is his wind range.
I think it's quite good against all four of them, but the rest, they can struggle.
So maybe Skidder could be looking more like his range hero pool,
but even then if you're Yannix, you're probably quite happy about that.
I mean, there's been talks that Skidder knows how to tilt Amar.
I've seen that too.
There's been some talks around the town, and also there's some talks around the town
that Skidder has Amar already pre-muted.
He definitely does.
That's because Skidder, I've heard him talk about this before, he's a coward.
Oh, yeah.
And what way, sorry, can we just...
Like in the way that his team would always like ult chat, but he would always have it
like muted, and he would ult chat sometimes, but he would only dish, he would not receive.
Right, okay, yeah.
So it's like, you suck, he's a mantle, but then...
He likes that.
Yeah, okay, great.
So come on, brother, we can step that up a little bit.
Well, they're going up against each other, and I think even if you muted each other,
you could still probably, I don't know, you could still make yourself known there.
That's close enough.
That's the point like at least in other games, you know kind of strike or whatever like the players would sometimes shout each other from across the room
We don't have that in doing it. Maybe not yet exactly. This is what maybe the falcons this man could create
But I mean when you look at the here pulls though, I am at least personally looking towards the roar supports
They look quite lane securing in nature, but with the aggression over Mars here
Oh, you won't have the freedom to leave your lane as much that you've got a dazzle from melody in one lane a
Viper from a more on the other your supports can't run away to mid and save the day like they have to protect the side lanes
That's why I think there's even a big emphasis on this mid lane matchup.
For sure, and I think also at least when I look at the first phase ban,
and also to know that they did eat into quite a bit of reserve time, like 30 seconds here,
but I like the bans, you know, you take out the next assassin,
Mira hasn't lost a single game on it yet.
They've removed also the Windranger, you know, Skeeter,
that would be one of his better answers into the Timber,
and you get Amar's best hero.
Timber, lock it in, should be feeling quite good.
Now I know they have picked the Timber first phase before,
and it makes sense and people have banned it or taken it away from them. But I do like,
that you know Amar is probably like, okay I'm going to skid him for a first time,
get me Timber, get me Timber, get me Timber. Basically Amar is just telling Skidder,
probably in all chat we don't say it's like bro you only play Sven Tiny, you think you can beat me,
you know there's probably some like there's some beef that we're not seeing. Too fair though,
the clinch is available, the witch doctor's available, like the big heroes that have dominated
Timbersaws in the tournament so far are in play. But they are heroes that Aurora haven't touched yet,
Skidder and Corry have not played these respective heroes, but we do get to see an Ursa, okay, an old-school Skidder classic now.
I think if it wasn't for the likes of South America, you know,
Tomato, these lads, we probably wouldn't have seen Ursa at all in this tournament.
But now it's here, and is this what Skidder meant by how he can tilt him?
Probably.
Picking a low-skill carry to beat a low-skill offlane?
Hey, sucker, I know how to beat your ass.
To me also, when it comes to Ursa, he's at least one of the few heroes that get buffed in the patch.
You know, some specific games will call for specific answers, especially if some Windranger is banned out, there's no Necro.
I can rely on someone might often be dooming him later.
So picking Ursa into Timber, obviously Ursa is a volatile hero, but it is one of the best carry to often match up when it comes to Timbersaw.
But you only have a single ban. Are you banning the Shardemon, the Rubik, these big supports in the 4-row that just provide a lifeline to Timbersaw in that laning phase?
because any way to destroy the aggression, it kind of stops us from being a counter.
That's why we haven't seen the hero in most drafts.
I think it's also like, even, they're going to have to decide, is it like that you want to take out one of the supports?
Does he care more about some 18 hero matchup, like some carry to carry?
I'm not sure. I think also then it depends on what does Kayori look for.
I would say he at least plays some heroes that feel pretty good against him,
but hits the heroes like way up there.
I don't know what else he's really going to look at, because as always, Kayori is, he's a hero specialist.
specialist. He doesn't like branch out that much. But Shadow Demon is one of his heroes,
so he could pick the Shadow Demon and ban out one of the other options that would be extra good
against the Ursa. Yes, I like the idea, but then the lane you're sacrificing the Ursa's pick
to then have draft advantage. Yeah. It's like, that's the Ursa lane, that you're not killing
Timber. You're just kind of looking at him, you're giving him three stick charges because
Clary likes matching the poison. You could argue that you can stop the Timber chain and then kill
in that way, but it's not as clean as other options like the Jatira's, the Witch Doctor's,
the kind of the safe heroes that Corrie goes for the Agri-Lane.
Yeah, because you definitely want some sort of aggression, especially you if Ursa into Timber,
like the Timber isn't going to pressure you, so you want to play on like double aggression to
actually own him in the lane, and I hope that at least this, like Amar is the best Timber in
the world. If he needs chain, please kill chain, because I've seen other Timbers into Ursa that
don't skill it and it's like well you deserve to die. Yeah that's true. We'll see if I'm more of the
specialist. The thing is also I could see them still going for like the Shadow Demons and the
Luxions if they full play a slow game and go you know what we don't want to win the lanes we're here
for like the big picture but for now they go for bounty hunter. Yeah it's kind of funny if you look
at the the bands on the side of Yandex and you know they say Sassan band, Hoodving band, Willow
band, Windranger band and Mira's like oh you know what let's do bounty hunter. It's amazing. It looks
great right in the game we literally just watched it is somewhat of a replacement for nix obviously
not a one-to-one but still you get the map play you can go very deep on the map you're invisible
you can place nice words so absolutely nothing wrong with this one i do want to see more aggressive
play for the shard on the bounty hunter though i feel like as much as we're praising what bounty
can do i still feel like there's even more room for improvement on the hero where you grab one core
you put invis on him your invis as well you now have double stun then you have some bash or something
and another round of stuns from the bounty hunter, it's like I've yet to see this be like takeover games, but conceptually these two heroes with bounty hunter, they can break open the map once they get their items.
I like that you talk about it. I saw it like randomly at TI, like there was a bounty shot on a sniper, there was literally some dude getting 1.6 seconds stun by a 1k range hero just hitting him, and you can like have multiple rounds of Invis out, so I do fully agree.
But to go back to like also what Yanis are doing here. I like the techies quite a lot
You know the taser and the disarm in the lane against like Ursa. That's gonna be leaning against you
Oh
Oh a shadow shower. Okay, that's a bear you can become a chicken
hmm
Is them is the techies enough to sway Aurora away from going for something like a dark seer here? I
Don't think it's warranted at the moment
Until you see something unless you're primitive. They try to block yourself from like
heroes it does compliment their first two picks so maybe if they like the idea
but I still they need to deal with the fact that techies and shaman are now in
the game and the pick-off play and the map movement is very scary yeah to some
degree like the ringmaster 5 I mean shadow demon might rise in stock now
because of that but then you're having a lot less damage early on the shaman
techies together on paper it does a lot it has pick-off potential sieging area
control. Pretty decent laning also, like for sure. So there could be a world, okay, because
they took out the Sven earlier, which usually is not really a ban, if you're gonna pick Ursa.
Obviously we've seen Sven like rise in value, but Lycan here, I think what's nice and what we've
seen more today is that there's a lot of cores that play really nice like with each other. I
think Ursa Lycan want to be like kind of strong around the same time in like minute 50 to 20,
you have like Fury blink, you take an early roge, you run around, and it's quite annoying for both
of these supports, like it's going to soak up all the mines, very annoying for Shadow
Shaman as well.
Isn't it just like 18 pick terribly though for Yandex?
Sadly that one is insanely good for them.
It's insanely good for Watson, he just goes, well, there we go boys, as long as the map
doesn't disappear in front of me, I will just win you the game.
Is there something that a Warlock can pick that would make them not want a terribly,
like a Warlock that nobody saw coming?
If Kaori had access to adding back the facets, maybe the tempo that old school Warlock
brings in, but no, modern day Warlock, it's 0% win right here in the tournament.
It's very much like you get your carry through the lane.
You pick Warlock because us will always get battle fury now.
No matter what happens, he is going to get a 12-30 minute fury if not quicker.
Skitter please carry me.
That's what the Warlock is doing.
It is also like an old school convo.
I remember this a while, there were at least one or two seasons where Secret did this a
lot with some Warlock bounty hunter.
What year are you talking about?
2018.
This is what I said, 8-10 years ago, but the old concept was something off the lines of
bounty is obviously very good at making people run around and eventually you don't, like he's obviously not good at teamfighting.
But then the moment you start wanting to not teamfight a bounty hunter, you start splitting, because now he has a warlock in his team.
Now the bounty can pick you off, you have a lot of vision, so I do know that this is a bit of an older concept.
Obviously Dota has changed a shit on since then because overall against the Viah heroes,
I'm not vibing with the warlock that much if I'm going to be honest.
Ah, yeah. I mean, I just look at Aurora's lineup and it's,
you have this window of like and earth sustaining together,
and that's about it. You've got a bounty stun that we love. We love the idea of it,
but then they've drafted nothing else in that stun department.
You can't rely on Gollum to be your big initiation or teamfight.
It's only one spell. You need other things.
So no matter what I feel like you know Stoicov we praised him for becoming more confident from the mid lane
He has a lot of work to do because first of all he has to stop the ember from winning mid lane
And then he has to translate that into continuous aggression
Yeah, so that like it in us if you're like where my mid goes
He has to stun to get the kill if that isn't a thing
I am just worried that Janix will just play a lot of map plays wave skip and all this shenanigans
And we'll just go oh Watson eventually got to his items. He wins the game
So what's the counters to Ember that are still in with Slark and Invoker out?
I know OD is still in the pool.
We have the Shaker maybe.
Monkey is in play, but again that matchup hasn't...
It's still good for Monkey. It's like his favorite, but...
It just fades slightly if you're not a perfect Monkey player.
Like some of the counters you have like Monkey and DK,
I don't want to play this hero with Warlock bounty support.
Exactly, go on someone and they're just gonna walk away and give me the middle finger because there's nothing happening.
So I should put some respect on the net. He's gonna be invisible on the monkey from the bounty
Okay, he's gonna get a hill from the warlock. That's it. And that is gonna be sent, you know
2000 units away, and it's like good luck. So he really got a trust that he can do it by himself
Yeah, so like maybe here that doesn't really commit or you have the option on playing on like local middle
So shaker in my opinion could work. Yeah, you can go in with like the blink echo and I kill with an Ursa or play on like
Higher range with the chart where you just fish here and you told him and you chill
What's in special?
Yeah, he does build desol so maybe we're thinking of specialists with desol special very normal
Definitely where I was going. Thank you. No, but the TA very good
You know playing in some double melee lane also having any sort of rose control is super annoying against Ursa, right?
Ursa at some point wants to like go there be very annoying. I found the pick has no stuns
Viper
No, but I'd rather have
I was just testing what your vibes are looking like on the panel.
No, I don't want to see it. I told you, don't worry guys.
I...
I don't really know what Stoiko wants to play.
I don't mind the Monkey King, because at least you can run towards top lane,
and then you do collapse on the tower, you push TA out, you take it.
It has to be something he's comfortable with.
Maybe you just play Lina anyway, because you have damage and from the bounty, I don't know.
I'm leaning on like some Lina or bounty.
Yeah, bounty, they don't have that.
Yeah, good bounty, man, there you go.
Lina or Earthshaker.
What if you go more explosive and just go like the snapfire route, where you just like you
bully the ember a little bit and lane.
The problem is that all the heroes that I think could be good, they just don't have enough
stuns to fix the lack of stuns they have.
Yeah, I want something independent, that's why, and in my mind it's like some Lina or
Earthshaker.
Maybe I'm misreading like what he can do with like the two supports together, but it's
like not, it's not really doing it for me at the moment.
Yeah, the leaner list has the boots to travel, the T-plones of the Lycan to utilize the bounty, but there's a lot more forward thinking.
Storm Spirit, and Stoikov has had good luck on the Storm Spirit. He's still the only one that's winning on the T-plone, right?
Yes, he's able to win on Storm, which says a lot.
Nobody else has won on Storm.
Honestly, I don't mind it. As long as it had a stun, I'd find a positive thing to say about it.
And in this game, like the way that TA and Timber fight, they are going to naturally clump up as two heroes or three.
So eventually the agonies will be really important for Aurora.
You just need to make sure he gets the active runes and has an entry to the game.
I just love the volatility of Aurora's lineup.
I would be so oppressive and so much map play and vision from Lycan and bounty and Storm picking off a Versa.
Or it will fall flat and Yandex will dominate them in like 20 minutes.
in a game like this because one of the things that we talked about for Yandex is that obviously
some of the games are relatively fast, where it feels over very fast, but the game still
drags on 30-ish minutes or whatnot. Now they have Shadow Shaman, so games that feel like they're
already in favor of Yandex, they can actually go high ground a lot faster. Is that still true for
the hero Shadow Shaman? Yeah, it's still true for the hero, but I think if I look at Aurora,
They should be owning like minutes 5 to 20 and then they kind of need to be ahead against the draft that Yandex have
Because otherwise I think they're in they're in deep shit otherwise. Yeah, man. You are just wearing this entire
We're gonna have to talk to PGL about this, but it's okay. No, it's okay. I mean, they're in my ear the entire time
That'll be your second strike today. Yeah, you see we don't
Okay, so actually forgot to wear the correct clothes today, so he's actually borrowed a jacket from someone in the street
Actually, it's my own jacket
Sure, but anyways, but anyways, it is time to hear a friend coach a cell with no man
Thank you Shiva. Yeah, so are you feeling good about this stuff? Do you feel like you've won this draft?
It's hard to tell honestly. There's a lot of
Undiscovered things so yeah, I can't say
Okay, fair enough. I mean you've had a lot of really convincing quick games
Have you drafted to do the same thing? It's how you're aiming to do every single game though
I mean, not really, we're not aiming for fast phase, it's just how it goes, so this game, we clearly don't have a fast lineup.
Fair enough. When you're planning to play against Aurora in particular, is there any player particularly that you're looking to target in your draft, not in your game as well?
Not really, like nothing specific according to like... not really.
All right, and then finally of course they go for the TA as their final pick
Is this a hero you're particularly scared of or do you think you've got the tools to shut it down?
It's our temper
You're absolutely right. Well, do you think it's up like I'm gonna be shut down?
I think it's a very good to a game but she needs some time and they have like a little scary also bounty
We'll see we'll see indeed. All right. Let's get into the game with OD pixel and fucked
I can't wait to see this one go down for a lot of fun Aurora versus Yandex and straight away with the draft right we had Amar showing up as Timber and you know Skeeter as an old teammate he was like give me first pick get me the Ursa against this we'll see how it works out you know Timber pretty safe to pick early
on the other hand, could be a bit of a risk thrown out as your first pick in the draw.
Yeah, the hero's gotten buffs, I always want to mention this one, because the new thing
where you could get 0.25, whatever, 0.5% which equates to like 4 or 5 damage in the laning phase
extra compared to what you did have before.
So if you look, 60 base damage in the past thing, Ursa would have been at, I think it was what, like 56
if I'm not mistaken, it was previously to this patch, so there are some extra benefits,
but I totally agree with the panelist saying, and Xcel even knows it himself, right?
right one team is looking for speed one team is looking for greed and let's see
if Aurora can execute with that speed because they do have a very impressive
lineup that they do get to that point right like in getting that overlord this
is one of those push excuse me what's push slide-ups that we don't really see
picked up too often in comparison to some others see if they can play this is
I just ask us that hope for Aurora and we sort of make the decision to go with
the storm to close things up I mean it is something that Stoikov's been shown
is very much his hero right now in the tournament.
Sort of a similar way as Void's pretty much been some mails,
as we saw last year, as a village Thoikov.
He's the one really bringing the storm back to the focus.
Just make him comfortable. Why not?
He's the only one who's really winning on the storm spirit
as we've been seeing, so I'm fine with him playing.
And if he asks for it, you give it to him.
And you do look at the game overall.
There are some annoying disables, you know, chains,
plus the shaman are going to be the big ones, plus the techies.
But if he can somehow bypass those,
Does have good ways to at least deal with the TA and the timber in terms of mid-game
Later stages we'll see how that's gonna go, but I don't think that's the plan for a boy
I think their plan is smash the game and roll the game pretty much
Let's see if they can do that with Warlock too right here. Oh, that's
Did they said lost every game right?
Right yeah, it's real for games without it's not not done a whole lot. No, but obviously for Corey it is one of his greats
It's a fun lane matchup.
Always going to be duking it out.
Chira very comfortable.
Oh, I like that from WS.
That is not expected.
Sends the wolf from the top lane, kills the water rune as Ember is walking to it, so
Stoikov will get the refill.
Chira Jr. will not.
Chira tried to go for the slight steal plate, didn't get it.
But yeah, heads up little micro plays from the wolves.
see what's Lycan can do, a hero that's also not really getting picked very often.
And how some of the game ended up looking for Lycan, like is Yandex's lineup sort of
set up to be able to hold back against the potentially early push and pressure from Aurora?
They could suffer a bit in terms of early push, like I think the early, the first 20-25
minutes or so versus the Lycan, the Lycan looks very good, but as the game progresses
their damage starts to increase timbers able to get on him, a shaman maybe can actually get grabs so
I would say Aurora is on a bit of a timer in terms of getting a a high advantage versus Yandex in this game
This is annoying
The classic I mean one of them is one of them's gonna have to concede it eventually
I mean now he's not gonna give it up
That's a funny one
He's gonna feel very good about that, getting the first blood his old team mate.
It's gonna be a tough start for Amar, that's for damn sure.
They're still doing it up in!
Yep.
Banners down!
I thought they might actually end up doing some stuff on lane swap in this game,
where they put the techies with the timber,
even though I don't think they ever lane swap on this team, right?
Yeah, so from being able to go after these kills.
Cause Shaman can try with his shackles and all that,
but it can be a bit difficult to do so to dissuade Shaman.
Who?
Dissuaded.
Because our mirror is winning this, aren't they, Malady?
Wow, okay, Mera will have to let it go the way of Malady.
Eventually, Tanger's gonna come back up, right? And if TA does connect, so yeah, Malady will stand his ground.
So, yeah, Amart, we'll have the slowest start to this game. The Lycan will have a good one, so see how he ends up adapting.
We've seen a lot of these definitely catch up in terms of what the timbers can do.
I mean, I feel as though with the way that Ursa was picked, you know, my Skeeter and the boys on Aurora.
just goes to show that you know that then from their time on a team together
that there must have been times where Mars like I'll play timber but do not let
me play against us if that is if there was one here I do not want to lane against
it's an answer he is going to scale it's like immediately pick it at me first yeah
a ma is going to hate this a ma he is gonna skill chains at least though so he
is gonna be able to get something out of the lanes here with some of the spam
but Skeeter has FaZe boots already.
Look at the shackles on Skeeter.
There's a FaZe Booter or so. This is so we can run the show down here.
And it's certainly looking pretty good for him.
Other lanes though. TA, absolute free farm.
Amber as well, but now the rotation.
Mera coming in to help out.
And it's up to bring down Church.
You can actually have a tough and slight change though. Get the kill.
And Malady doesn't end up going for the explosion.
So I cover his level six so he can juke it.
Mera.
Yeah, we'll self-mirror instead.
Everybody gets something out of this, but not able to bring down Stoico.
Got aggressive move. Nice double shadow walk play coming in from Mira.
It does get the double stun connection there.
Lane's being broken pretty early here, which I would say Amar is like,
hell yeah, break the lane so I can actually start to get something down here.
And Malady will keep the wave in a good position so Chira can get that level 6.
He was 40, yeah, 47 XP from having it.
and he would have probably ended up surviving if not turning and killing targets so
They're looking for it again, but now he's hit the six
Hard to do so they have mirror around the
Alt down between both of them. It's limited would not be enough. Yeah, they can't really do this even with the three
It's not a cock especially with satay. It's got to be kept
It's like chains. They're gonna change some forward
Oh, and the shackles into the blast off. Stoykov's dead. Cory likely to follow
Something I didn't really factor in this game is they don't have ways to stop shackles or to break flameguard
It's what?
Bounty sneaking up getting a hit in or a vortex or a golem which I not the easiest and
On top name what's nice move from era?
Should be taken out at the detection. No somebody's got it right no they don't
Oh dear is it on the courier it is it's coming it's coming two centuries
He needs that he's gonna get the techies to come over maybe assist him
Centuries down
Watson will get taken out they might not have at the detection immediately
But it is still there when it needs to be okay already going for the steel skater still play super aggressive versus a bar
I'm far still getting no space
Skeeter is loving this. Oh, yeah, he is absolutely loving this. He is
Having quite the time down here against them off and they got the double wisdom
So, so far for now for Aurora, looking at a solo kill.
Alright.
Hell yeah, Stoikov.
Stoikov, he doesn't need any ganks from his supports
to make the magic happen there.
It gets cheered solo.
As we said, we wanted to see them play very good
in the early laning phase.
So far, looking good, Mira though.
Just looking at Sack, I mean,
Stoikov's got a little bit of matter to play with.
Look at both supports down.
Another one.
Mira's movements.
That makes it some really nice study plays on Aurora.
Already up to 2K lead is seven minutes in.
And the bounty, the scouting he's doing, right?
He's like, okay, the catch-up, the recovery for the timber, it's from stacks, so if they just occupy that area, get information.
They'll know there's not really a recovery for Omar. He is below the techies now at this point.
I mean, you're really seeing just how strong this Ursa is against him.
As a skier, I absolutely knew whatever it was, this was the one thing that was going to shake Omar off his early game.
Strykov does get the zeb, now he wasn't in time there with the blast-off.
Looks like they still will be able to get Mira.
That helps me out to get the rune.
Yeah, so, I mean, not being able to break Flame Guard is gonna be a problem,
because it's only magic damage that comes from the storm, right?
And then not being able to stop Shackles, I guess the way to stop Shackles is you kill him,
they do have super high damage, so that's the case if you do have that.
But, definitely something that could be a bit annoying for them in the early game.
Well, it's the same minute town taken down by Skeeter, this is...
The timings.
It's gonna be a crazy timing on the battle fury, which is gonna be very important.
It's gonna allow him to very likely keep up or at least keep ahead of this TA's farm
And they've got the Dominator now too so they can look to keep applying pressure onto these towers fairly early here
It's gonna be up to Chira right since Amar is now having this struggle. It's really up to Chira to
Break the map movements that's coming out from Aurora
And they have they're very high physical damage so sure they can't break the flame guard, but they can't kill him in
One or two disables pretty effectively
Now, Watson's going to have some of Mira closely keeping tabs on his progress.
W.A.R.S.
It's got Corey here to help out.
The physical damage...
It's pretty fine.
Juju is getting kind of low.
He's dying for EZ just dead!
Oh, Mira is... I mean, Mira is doing everything this game for them.
He saw Snaking in last game do similar.
Too much physical. All takes his one disable.
Yeah, and this really hurts for Chira.
Now did die in the mid lane so that a Stoikov knows try to make this gank top they catch him off guard
He's trying to space make for those two side lanes well for the bottom lane in particular that went miserable Watson still farming pretty well
The pressure on this tower the map is gonna shrink pretty quickly here versus the lichen
He can take the mid tower then perhaps can even swing toward middle our top tower that swing toward middle if you can take out
Both of these towers. They'll have all the access points to the TA
And I'm just continuing to watch Mira. I think I'm just going to double look on him.
It was blocking camps, sapping XP.
Yep, he's doing the same thing Snape did, essentially.
He's super disruptive.
We're fine.
We're going to be able to grab that amplified damage room before Chir came swinging in with the remnants.
I'm losing the towers very early. Ten minutes in, everything going to plan here for Aurora's lineup.
Pretty much perfect right now for them.
Mira, we'll get found under the sentry.
Do they have connection? Do they follow up? Socks are a bit slow.
Problem with Shadow Shaman overall. We don't see this hero much.
Socks out, even though he's one of the best at it.
Having difficulties entering this game.
Something might just lose their third tier one tower.
Smart move from Stoikov. Not reacting to anything, have damage. Just goes to the push.
And Stoikov, he never goes for like these greaves or anything. He builds for the kaius, he builds for the scale.
Even though we see some players go for it, not him.
Chirra in the mid.
Can they change stun?
Not quite.
Malady's gonna come in with the kill.
Oh no!
There we go, Malady!
Sorting things out here a little bit for Yandex.
Coming in with a beautiful combo and taking out both of them.
Keeps Chirra safe.
And they messed up with the stun combo.
They had the centaur there to try to follow up,
but they hesitated for it,
let's him get chains off and then bam!
That is a very painful fall down.
Should be able to keep away from sacks. I won't quite get a slam down.
Of course, Yaskita! It's got to be the fastest battle fury time we've had here at this tournament.
We don't see a lot of them, of course. Not a lot of battle fury carries right up here right now.
But 11 minute battle fury. Amar, looking pretty dead.
Hey, it certainly is Mira. Again, being that plus one where it's needed for the course to allow them to get these skills.
Faster than the average, it's not the fastest.
That is astonishing, so...
He's going to be faster. Show him.
I think we just have a separate step to show that.
But maybe he's not there.
Watson up, looks like he's going down.
Stoikov, this is a nice move.
Okay, sure, he died there, but then afterwards, immediately at the top, makes the move, brings the dust.
I mean, this is...
It's got to be the first time this tournament we've seen Yandex get shaken up this much in the early game, right?
Ah, the game when they had... There was one where they had Mars.
Oh, they had Mars.
Yeah, that one doesn't really count.
They pick bars, you know, you know whoop-de-doo that's that's gonna go like that. No, but absolutely so outside of that one
This is you know young dex haven't really been put through much of I think these sort of types of situations in the early game
This truly will be the test for them because this Ursa is absolutely
He's gonna have blink dagger too. It's pretty soon and then you can just run around
I mean just kill pretty much everybody. Look at how much he's managed to get out of that point
He's nearly as he does nearly double the net worth of a mile. Yeah, you know a mark. He is gonna be fuming
I mean Skeeter looking at his matchups too, the techies is annoying right, the taser can
still be very disruptive but everybody else, it's a damn good Ursa game, even though it
was a first pick, the fact that he's gotten to this much of an advantage, yes Shaman
can be annoying with the instant hexes, but he has to be alive to do so and there's a
like it in the game that's gonna be scouting him probably in most of the
fights or a mirror or a bouncy the moves that may have been making so far
this game so it's not easy for Sox to do what he you know his job is which is
either hex the Ursa or hex the Stormy get some follow-up pretty phenomenal start
for them they're gonna smoke they do have level seven on the techie so Max
tasers online.
Mera.
Radiant's middle tower is under at your eyes on them.
They're bringing Chira as well.
Watson does have Deso finished as well.
So his timing isn't bad by any means.
It's just this airs as massive.
Yeah, Skeeter can get that much more involved as opposed to Watson at this point again.
Yeah, Watson needs to blink before he wants to jump in.
Scan will come out so it looks like they'll probably get a freebie here on Tamira.
I think it must have been, right? Yeah, that was the only thing going on for Taksa.
Well, I'm lucky there for Chirra. Skeeter being active. Wants to get involved here with that
7 damage.
I feel as that happens a lot. Watson, the jump over.
Oh, Skeeter.
That was...
lost their carry but they're still able to clean up the fight massively in their favor.
Look how fast they all collapse over right at one moment it's just two or three heroes
from Aurora all five turn up for the fight and they're going to clean up every single
one of the serpent wards too.
So 1600 gold it's actually quite a bit more it actually should be 2k or so that they get
because they clean up the wards as well too.
Nice connections and yeah great follow up from the rest of Aurora.
Skeeter, pushing the limits, almost in for surviving even.
Very nice early game.
And maybe the Golem is going to be just used to stop some of these shackles, right?
Yeah, absolutely.
The key to bailing out any of the calls from getting locked down by Saxa might actually
be a pretty important one that he is going to be saving for in some scenarios as funny
as it sounds.
Again, Aurora is looking for more.
And they're gonna find it.
And as they get the ground onto both of the support section,
Runners skitters momentarily disarmed and will not survive.
Track money.
These support kills absolutely matter in these games.
Malady also want to dominate these streaks,
so Syka will take that all day.
It's just like similar to that last game,
with any of these pickups to do add up because of tracks.
Vera, she's got the change time.
It is enough to get him in position, I mean Skeeter could do it, WS has taken a tier 2, 16 minutes in.
They are still going down a couple here.
They are playing this so fast.
Playing their draft pretty much perfection, share some of these kills, maybe could have done nothing given away, but either way.
Tier 1's all taken, perhaps a tier 2 in a second as Broch is going as well.
Yeah, they may not be able to get to these timings that they want to in this game.
Basically, sort of eyes on Watson to see what he can do when he's forced to turn up and play as part here as the TA.
And it hasn't been a free TA game, he's 0-3. The movements that have come out from the start really did shut him down too.
And look at Soxa, he's just dropping Serpent Ward to push out lanes even.
So desperation truly coming in from the side of the index.
Free money here for Skeeter.
And experience, you gotta remember those Serpent Ward's you have XP, it adds up.
up all the little things he's gonna be almost level 14 on this ursa you know
Watson's just been silently farming the whole time the ursa is actually staying
in toe-to-toe at least ahead of actually the experience just get an ingot
bash you coming nice monsters I mean what whatever happens next game even if
they do match to turn it around I can't imagine they're gonna open up with a
timber because this is just gonna happen again he's just gonna first pick Ursa
And absolutely destroy Amar in the lane.
Speaking of Amar, Mira is hot on the chase.
Amar having a rough game.
Not looking to get much easier.
Now, Speetha here to clean up the kill.
Another track kill.
Extra money, that's the basher.
And the matchup of the Ursa versus the TA too, right?
These are both heroes that they do want to be playing around.
Roshan and all that, Ursafi gets this stuff at an advantage. He will eat the TA alive.
Now of course, it was just going down. WS7, he's having a few, he's chilling.
3-0, right? He's well on the way towards the AC.
Things really coming together for Aurora in a way that's definitely going to shake up Yandex
a little bit. Yandex have quite a few games in a row where they have just been absolutely just
Just steaming through the event, but they're hitting a bit of a block now against Aurora.
He is actually just going to die to the wolves.
Yeah, this game is looking pretty out of hand.
It certainly is.
Can't even go out on the map on this, on anybody.
Mira is scouting one side, Wolves are scouting the rest.
It's desperate times here for Yandex of cutting creep waves.
Yeah, that's short.
Shard is very annoying as we saw there.
Of course, what is it?
It's called Hytale or something?
I always forget it.
Yeah, Hytale.
not kill them, they kill you. Playing support for his liking just usually sucks. That's why
I thought that we were going to see this here, maybe perhaps a bit more with all the nerfs
we can keep mentioning for off-layers, but sometimes can be hard to get away with it
in this type of fashion. It's a free liking game so far. And information just everywhere.
There's wolves, there's a bounty. Watson's getting away with some farm, but look at the
Places that they're having to f-
Look at all of Yandex's cores where they're playing.
That tower's a tail.
And Mira knows...
Oh, Mar!
Oh, no!
There's Bolian!
Oh, no!
He's gonna try and run, but he will not live!
Enough mana in the tank there for Stoikov to burn.
Through him!
On top of extra gold, track, always being good versus these tanky heroes, 8% damage amplification, a little extra there for the storm to get the kill.
Alright, link on TA is done, link on the shaman's done.
But the map has completely fallen apart, tier 2 is all falling.
Only one gonna be remaining after this top side.
Time to try to put something together though, it feels like free index, cause the map, they're just, they're not getting space.
So they're gonna smoke up with the double blinks and look up for a pick-off.
Kay already though, might just go for the... as long as he's in position for the Golden Play.
And stop the shackle, stop any of the aggression that comes in.
Nothing pretty much any time he gets the chance to drop a Golden in the teamfight.
It's gonna be a pretty easy teamfight win.
They're not getting the play. Not at all. They smoke, look for a fight. It actually comes to them first.
There is not much recovery, I would say, for Yandex.
There's an AC on the lake and also, and Urza will kill him.
and up into this AC timing.
Yeah, the Aurora have.
They're getting crushed!
Completely destroyed this game.
21 minutes in, and it's crazy.
Domination.
And again, just from what we saw in the end,
I don't think a lot of people would have been expecting this today,
hearing this game won.
Just Aurora absolutely crushing them.
They did go for an extremely greedy draft,
but being punished for it.
Probably harder than I've seen most teams punish.
Don't talk off.
I've been trapped.
Well, that happened.
Skeeter can clean up the kill. Ok, now Skeeter doesn't want to go for it, and as this is going to be back up, so...
A little bit of a slip up there from Stoikov, and they do have detection down here from Mera.
Alright. Too big one.
A little bit of action going back the way of Yandex, and most importantly, into the hands of Watson.
Four desostacks.
If they're going to make a comeback, it's all based off of Watson.
And as I was saying, for TA in this game, it doesn't look like the easiest one.
That's not the easiest TA, I guess.
This is Ursa vs Lycan who is going to be reducing your damage, hitting you with summons, multiple different ways to get on top of him at this point.
And the A safe, yeah, WS already having it finished, and he is going to go to the aggs next.
So it's going to be a Wolf Ursa, pretty early in the game.
Ursa Wolf? Wolf Ursa?
Yeah, it's a wolf.
Ursa Wolf sounds better.
I like that better too.
Socks, huh?
He's like, guys, they've been on our side the whole time, maybe there's a wisdom.
And he's gonna be right
So he'll be able to at least get that actually
Surviving there just before Stoicov comes in
It's just a little bit of a hiccup then the progression for Aurora with Stoicov
He won't be using all of his mana to try and solo TA again. No, not without backup
He doesn't need to do something to play with that either at this point
Level 18 now for Watson
Ah, kinda cool pick up if he does go for it, not your most common first, well, second item
after the Deso, shit, butterfly queued up, but versus Ursa Lycan, you can see the argument
if he does actually commit for it.
Yeah, the evasion's gonna be huge.
Then even versus Storm, until the Witchblade comes out, we'll be able to dodge it fair
bit.
It would be pretty nuts if he can do this.
All they gotta, the name of the game is Delay.
Aurora. Name of the game is Accelerate. You pick any one of the fights that they want
here at this point. BKB for Skeeter. Vision on top side if they see Watson. They're on
them. Jumps the golem. That's how he's going down. Another one for Skeeter.
The bar silently farming, I mean I want to say catching up. Somewhat of a recovery here
has Sheeva's finished so extra protection result is physical. But they just have so much overwhelming
damage form in this draft and he's asking if they're always scouted there's wolves there's bounty
so not able to find that split farm that they're looking for really
next tower
and then they can like look to reset for rush control the areas before they can go for the room
Yeah, it's very scary for Yandex to step out.
They'll be able to get Rosh, Ag's gonna be done for the like in it.
Watson will have his butterfly finished up and he is still very high level, but
it really is feeling like him versus the world.
Kayori buys Jamm as well, so gonna be able to reduce any of the vision.
Hey, yeah, they're gonna look to be ending this probably by the 30-minute mark, I would say.
The Vlax, even things like that.
There's not real reason to slide on too much here if you're Aurora.
Yeah, I do think Aurora's gonna look to close it out. ASAP here.
With these next few pickups, you have Agz now lichen, Vlad's for Kaori.
Don't recall easily able to put a stop to that.
Tempt from Yandex to smoke out of the base.
Won't be catching Aurora by surprise.
Chira having to pivot for a ghost scepter rather than just getting to go for agonims after the Kaia.
Need some type of protection versus this Ursa and Lichen.
MIR will scout them immediately.
They have a good idea of where they are at the moment.
How long for Golem? 30 seconds.
Here comes the fight.
Don't come with the opening.
Fall off.
Damage here for the Skeeter. Val'zix is gonna jump for the PK. He's already popped my Skeeter.
There'll be a bit of a chance for Charo to live with the Ghost Scepter in the round and now he'll jump away.
Nice jump for a bar.
He's going to try and come in onto us, Corey.
Just giving us a turn over to Wards of Art.
And Martin, not quite able to project him,
but they do ice-cam at the side plate.
Side plate's killed Corey off,
but there's still a man on the Stoicov to zip up
with the high ground.
Have to lock down onto a bar.
And Martin trying to timetain away,
but Skidder still finds him.
The Stoicov BKB's ready,
gets him back out of the way of Chiro Jr.
Almost with the side plate.
Watson almost actually got the line up there
on the Stoicov, it was kind of close.
3 for 2, just the two supports dropping and that's without Golem in the fight.
That's just so hard to touch the cause of Aurora.
It's at the butterfly finish today, so Lawson does have a pretty big increase here for the next fight in terms of both survivability and damage.
But they're lacking control, lacking ways to hold these chords in position.
They're still armed to Earth, they're lacking just too elusive.
Shaman, I saw, I mean, Blink, Shackle as a target and then just Digi's down ice.
Yeah, way too much for him to deal with.
And Skeeter did see the butterfly being purchased.
He gets a Vistle, immediately queues the MKB after.
What's some very much good as work cut out?
It's a heavy game for him to carry.
Mira even shadow walking his Ursa, a couple of these scenarios too,
so he's going to be a sneaky, invis Ursa Wolf.
That's pretty terrifying.
They didn't get the gem though, I think, right?
Yeah, they did actually.
So that was at least something that did snag in the last fight on the side of the Yandex.
I was just trying to, I was clicking around seeing where it was, but...
It does look like it wasn't one of the supports when Amar jumped.
Oh, holding it for now.
That's actually pretty solid. That seems pretty good, right?
Because then he's protected versus the wolves and the bounty scouting him.
The wolves aren't as much that he cares about.
Yeah, a lot of these moves has been mirror sort of setting things up with the Shadowwalk head.
Two to go.
I'll go with the open end, Skeeter with the follow up.
These two will do it every time now that that abyss was online for Skeeter.
First pick Ursa having this type of game.
I mean, perhaps not the respect that they should have given to it.
It's, you know, I could only imagine that Amar is...
If he wants to play Timber again this series, he will not be picking it
when Skidder has an answer ready to take
because we're seeing exactly why Skidder just went for the answer first pick
in immediate response to a last hit.
Look at Thera.
The rush will get claimed and here comes the ward.
Skidder's ready to get down.
So he has to jump forward towards Malady to the ghost sector.
We'll provide Malady some protection.
We'll turn towards Saksa instead.
Saksa will drop the wards.
Will not be escaping.
Just drives the goal.
Yeah, they're ready to try and push in up the lane.
and they're gonna get the chance to catch anyone else.
Sal looks...
Mosquit is gonna be in.
Make the jump up the high ground in the base.
Kills off Malady.
Slight change.
Mosquit is still with an A, he just had the BKB up.
Time for Kaori.
He's gonna leave Kaori behind.
They'll just ditch him. Mosquit doesn't want to jump in.
They're killing the support.
Just support kills, though.
The core is jumping away immediately afterwards.
Watson is getting toward that next item though, does now have a Hurricane Pite has extra protection for the Ursa, they are stalling things slightly here.
Chirra.
Again with the lockdown, it's more than enough to kill this ember.
Like Watson's game looks not bad. It's just that the ember and the timbers just have no game
If they were in a more decent position
It would look more possible just the fact that it's only Watson and it's it's hard
I do think he has more chance in this situation turning this game around and are they did on the piano in the previous series
What to say Dota plus disagrees with you entirely
90 something I think already at this point, but
Adam!
The actor has more of a chance than Watson could do it.
He's pretty locked in on his T8.
You give him the chance to get the Daedalus and a Rape here on top of that.
Yeah, I mean, he does need every little bit.
The only issues they don't have...
Look, the T5 is just extremely lackluster too, right?
When you look at it.
His Malibu jumping in with a blast.
It is. It really is.
Just what the Shaman can contribute is very different, but...
I mean, at this point, what can kind of...
Shira contribute?
He is struggling he's very far behind. Oh my god. That was so dangerous there from Watson
Yeah, this it's we said like he went for the go scepter right to try to protect himself versus all this physical
But he still just can get caught in James fun. It's too much physical
local
Position again on the cliff. They're all coming over
The mark is recovered
but still can't die very fast. He is getting close to the heart,
but it's just the amount of damage that the Orisa does for a system.
And once the MKB comes out, it's even better as well.
Still two minutes left on this Aegis.
That just hurts how Alan that recovery has had to take him.
Yeah.
With how much they shut down Amar in the early game.
It's been basically this 31 minutes of him having to avoid any kind of action,
trying to recover.
Yeah, he's just farming. But the amount that he's given also to the Ursa is quite massive at this point.
WS is somehow keeping up with the Ursa during all of this, so he's farming very well as well as the Lycan.
Yeah, Lycan's look great.
Yep, and he's got the Nullifier now, so they've got the Answers versus these Ghostseptors, the Tasers, etc.
They're smoking out, trying to reclaim their Triangle, maybe catch Aurora off guard here when they split away.
What's up? Get some space. Get himself a shard sent the way of Sax, eh? Little Erniconda.
Not the best shard by any means. WS, they do see him. They can go for this. Biggest move
they've made all games so far here. Taking a tormentor, getting this kill, maybe
getting another one too, Mira.
Now he's deep.
Now he's way too deep.
Still alive.
to him might be able to take the Aegis out of him. That's the Aegis gone. And they set
up a round too. Jhin is going to try but Skeeter's already out with the blink.
Here up.
Ruff of Mira and Stab and Shadowboar's back up. Skeeter ready to turn straight on.
The story comes in, the Abyss of Light dropped down onto him. It's Chira Jr. dead. The story
comes in, Skeeter able to turn towards him. No bash to take out Malady, he'll TP out.
They're trying their hardest to push the limits with their heroes here. They do end up giving
up the gem though with that full chase forward there from Chira and from the timber.
But some, at least forcing a reaction, getting their own moves to come together at some point here after a very quiet game.
I think that's the Daedalus done for Watson.
It is, he has gone online.
Starting to get some damage.
There's a definite chance this game that Watson might just be able to do it.
I agree with you about it, like it's a better chance for the PA than the PLS.
Yes.
100% feels alright.
The gold lead, it is starting to kind of stagnate around this 11-12K lead.
Like they are slowing down the progression of Aurora. It's still a difficult one. They get back in their favor Yandex
But it is not an impossible one. The fact that they can, oh, excuse me
The fact that they can make these moves right get the catch after getting Tormentor as well
You could see the Goldie was at like 15. It drops to 9 pretty quickly just after these moves
Steps toward the right direction still difficult
But Watson if you can get the Swift blink if you can get to this next few things he is close to 25 too
So the mouth bash
It's coming online soon they catch the airsoft guard
Aurora
What do you imagine the cool is gonna be now dude?
Wait for rush probably give it a charge control map if you find pickups with your you know
Same thing right bounty and the wolf still scout if you can find these pickups you can still play for it
I think the index will contest this rush though with the agonies now for cheera
Got some better ways to get information toward the backlines.
There's TA's damage now at this point. It is going to strike targets if they are not careful to protect each other too.
Wind Waker's almost there for Mira.
Mark, the plant outside of the base, waiting for damage. They can't save him. He's dead for AT.
and that's the gem. I think they bought that gem too, so that is actually a stolen gem this time.
Call him at the rally. Skin is ready to jump in if you fight another time.
If you walk the track, he's already out of harmony.
So they're straight into the base. They get the vortex onto Chirra, but he has mana.
And Reven himself, so we'll be able to jump back to safety.
Starting to focus the objectives now. Tier 3 starting to take a bit of a beating.
the WS in the walls. No timbre of 50 seconds.
Now Watson finds some sort of way to find an angle in these fights.
Banners there, they'll drop the goal on.
Chirra in.
To the side, Chirra.
Very low though, WSF is pushing for the BKB, Chirra's in trouble.
And Watson, he's running, Watson's gone.
Zip for it for Stoikov, and he looks to finish up, Chirra.
Watson will buy back, jumps in looking to watch Stoikov,
but Stoikov is perfectly fine.
But Barrick's taken out.
They're covering each other really nicely here. When the golem gets dropped, you can see Socks that tries for an opportunity with the shackles, but they all are covering each other on this team.
So they'll crest, buff, ups, everything being thrown onto the target that's getting focused.
I can keep going for more Aero-Rora. They know it's likely to cheer if there's no half to buy that gold.
The last Heropory and X.
This even without the Roshan. They just had to screw it. Skeeters, I close this game. Don't let them keep doing this.
Wolves taking out all the bombs, two sets, that's a big hit.
Looks like they will fall back now for the rush, respecting the fact that Yandex is soon
going to have the full five man back up.
Bit of a longer one.
Do Yandex go for a smoke out towards the rush?
I think you have to at this point.
I think it's like you can't take fights inside of your base, it's super dangerous and can
be scouted at least.
It's not up yet.
It's still 80 seconds.
some sort of timing that they could try and fight into the lack of
maybe Watson just farms the rapier and just says guys we need the rapier
that's the smite
do you still have pretty solid initiation if they are the ones to jump with Zaxer with the fallout from Malady
he took refraction instances not fast as he had some
just to point out
point out.
Jumping sucks to the front.
He's immediately dead and does not have the five.
I think the four takes on awards.
Watson, they've knocked him down.
Watson's out of the game for two minutes.
And with that done, it should be the beginning of the end here for this first game.
As Amar will try his best to find at least a support kill on the way up, but it's probably
not going to happen.
Sheerah jumping all over the place.
He's out.
No five on him either.
Now, no buyback on him either.
The bash coming in on to Amaraskin,
ready to kill him once more.
WS takes the last hit this time.
It's over. Gigi is called Aurora.
With a fantastic game one.
And Yandex, he managed to push it on to 38 minutes,
but this was an absolute struggle.
And indeed, a lot of tips go in the way of Skeeter.
They made the call to immediately respond
to their first pick, Timber, with a first pick Ursa.
And it went amazing.
It went amazing him and Mira. I think they were the two that really ran the shot
But Stokov also getting a solo killer to cheer up. They all played super well on Aurora this game
Yeah, they could not vote for a better game on the against yandex aurora taking the first game of this best of three
You'll love to see it
We were already
picturing yandex in those grand finals and that would be
Boring if there's not a little bit of pushback, but this was a lot of it a pushback coming out from Aurora
They came out of the gate swinging and they are now a true contender to be a top three here
Because that is where winning this series will get you what a fun first game in the series
Yeah
I mean it is like such an exceptional win because the way that you win with this draft is truly understanding each hero
Where it needs to be on the map why you picked it and what it's achieving
So like when you have like such limited stuns and so much tempo and the
the timers in the back of your head, you need to play perfect and they just ran through the map,
utilizing the lights in the air, so like they wanted to crush Yannick in this game
and my golly, gosh, did skit to look at Amar and make him look like he's like, it made it,
honestly, look like this was like Amar's first competitive game, like skitter just really just
dumped Amar in game one. Yeah, I think that's just why it's always nice when you see the top
teams go against each other and it's like, I can first pick Timber with these fans and no one
And it's like, no, brother, who the hell are you?
Because no one else picks Ursa in this type of slot.
And then also obviously props to all the rest, because they played incredibly well.
Sleukovic again, somehow pulling on a performance.
He solo kills CJ in the mid lane.
Their support seemingly always right place, right time.
WS denies a permanent water rune with the wolf.
It's all these small things, whereas Yandex, I think they looked a little bit...
I think loss is a little bit too strong of a word, but definitely disconnected at some points.
points and this bouncy hunter hero is looking insanely strong again and we said you know what
are they gonna do it because they were warlock no disables you know it's gonna be tough the tough
they were just they were just running and running and running and we just say it was speed versus
greed in this game and they set the tempo so high that the greed part of yandex could never really
come to fruition ever no it really helps that Aurora was able to have access to the early
Rochens, right? When you have one lineup with Ursa, another lineup with TA and Shaman, like,
it is a battle like, who has the very early game, who gets the age, if you kind of catapults that
into further aggression. And it is fun to say, but like, lineups with limited lockdown, if you
just win lanes and have this understanding, it can work. It's maybe why certain coaches try to
achieve it. They just don't have the skill of what Aurora is presenting us. And again, at Aurora,
I think it's a very different
team. It's truly impressive.
Let's get it again. 2312 has to
be the MVP combined with Mira
both two times. I winners. I do
think seeing the team tips
Skeeter at the end. You know,
he doesn't tip. No, he doesn't
all chat. Don't worry. His team
got his back. They all tips
Skeeter there at the end of
that, and that's very wholesome.
Yeah, I think both of these guys just need to be more respected, you know, they both have a lot of haters, maybe Skeeter even has more than Mera, you know, I think it's time for people to understand, like, when they can go to multiple different teams and continuously own, like, 23 and 1 on Ursa is no random feature, like, you don't just get that in a random game.
So who's MVP then? Cause you're hyping Skeeter at the end of that one.
Yeah, both of them. That's what we said.
Okay, I can just pick a show.
The clips for Mera are more screen time than Skeeter.
but it's not yet because first we do have to look at the main story of the game is the first time they live against each other
of course we're going to look again at a war versus Skeeter
no yeah I think it really speaks for itself but the main thing I want to just hype for Skeeter is after the laning phase like this
I've seen other carry players fail to continue this level of aggression
they kind of put the foot off the gas they kind of hit too many creeps they don't really like think correctly in where they want to be
But it really just felt like it's gonna hit like some flow state in this game
Because he took this easy net worth it
But I'm all had like a hundred more gold than like the techies on his game
Like that's how bad of a side it was and yeah
Just major props to everyone over because as much as skills MVP or mirror has a positioning all five players
Yeah, they cook they cook so hard in this game. They did they did very well and we have said it before
We'll say it again
this is a young team or young iteration of the team rather with the stand-in and we just want to
see them improve and be on the same page that they were surely that and on top of that we had
S tier personal performances like Mira on his bounty hunter and now now you guys can watch
why he's standing this guy is good five minutes now you have global howl time and look at this
in this time it's literally perfect to get like the double stun back to back to get the initial
kill onto CJ. Okay, you know, good start to the game. You gave all the XB top lane. Later,
16 minutes. Who's here? My boy, Mira. Stun into stun. Mr. Skeeter is here. You know, they go
together. Double TI winners. They know where to be. And this is not even all, you know,
early game making. Okay, even like one of the last plays of the game, Mira's like,
guys, I'm going to give us a good Observer Award. We're going to clear up the top area.
And who's going to be here? My boy, Amar the F, not respecting the double TI winners on the opposing
team get killed beyond Godlike. Easy game. It did feel a little bit like an easy game.
It felt like Aurora knew exactly what to do to break Jannex's game plan down. Now the
question is, can they repeat the success and can they get there two times in a row? We're
finding out. Game two after a break.
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I move at WS from Aurora and we're going to play a game. WS, how do you enjoy poetry?
What is that?
Poetry, riddles.
Riddles?
Yeah.
I think I know what they were for.
Okay, all right, brilliant.
This is gonna go really, really well then.
I'm excited for this.
Oh my God.
Basically, I'm gonna read you a little rhyme.
Okay, a little, a couple of sentences.
It's gonna relate to either a hero or an item in Dota 2.
Ah.
I need you to tell me what it is.
If you get stuck, then do not worry,
because we're gonna give you some letters
to help you out, okay?
So, if you need help, just say hint,
and we'll give you a hint.
If you really can't get it,
you'll get one skip through the entire thing, so use it wisely.
Only one. Only one.
Only one skip. You get 10 hints, but one skip.
Okay, that is.
All right, sounds good. Let's go.
All right, let's get into it. Here's your first riddle.
It's built into yules and solo crest.
For early game speed, it's simply the best.
Swin lace?
That's why I have to type it.
Absolutely correct. No, you do not.
Yeah, absolutely correct. It is indeed a win lace.
Let's go you'll know my name if you've read Shakespeare. I dance around fights with my ethereal sphere
Who am I what the hell is Shakespeare?
Would you like a hint?
Give me a second everything. Yeah
Who am I?
Okay, so this is a hero or I can be item or it can be a hero. Yeah, it's an item or a hero
Uh, okay, it's Mars for sure Mars. Yes, yeah, that is not correct. No. Oh my god
Spear I got beat up by the spear. Yeah, that's all right. That's all right. Let's go for the next one
I'm the biggest guy around with the highest strength gain
I'll throw a rock at your head if you come to my lane
Okay, you need a hint. All right, let's give it to him
You get a beef does this help you at all brist of
Be a lot more bees my friend
You you play this hero I play this you yeah. Yeah, I'm primal beast. Hey there we go
Yes, indeed that is primal bees. Let's go for the next one a minute left
We've got to this item closes that gap between those you hate
Used by fishermen of old to put big fish on your plate happen very good. Yes, I've been straight away excellent
Now we're into it. Let's go next one. I
I strike flows down with a blast from my tip, but no one seems to build me anymore rip
What am I?
Okay, this sound I mean seems like I thought but yeah, yeah good stuff last quickly. Do you want some hit? You've got
That one that one excellent. Yes, let's go next one. I'm arranged support with a big long stun
I'm a fan of the moon. Definitely not the Sun who am I?
One.
Alright, hint, hint.
Yep, that's it. Use those hints, use those hints.
Mirana.
Yes, exactly right. Good job.
Let's go for the next one. We've got 10 seconds left.
This item based off a king that wanted too much,
famous for his greed and his desire to touch.
What am I?
Okay, hint. Okay, no way, no time.
Come on, you can do it. All the hints, all the hints, all the hints, all the hints.
Oh.
I don't even know what is this.
You don't know what it is? Let's have a look at it, see what you missed out on.
It is hand off.
Oh my god.
Minus, king of what?
Minus, that's alright. That was a tough one.
But you did pretty well there. You got a pretty decent score.
Yeah, I think so. I think you got about five or six and it looks sucks
Listen, I think you did pretty damn well, but either way, how do you do you gonna go home and write some poetry now you inspired?
I mean, okay, so I watched similar video before and I thought it was easy
But if you play by yourself, it's kind of hard. Yeah. Yeah, it can be tough
It can be done when I look at the video as I was thinking why this guy's so stupid. It's obviously easy
I think that's pretty damn good. I think that's going to be a tough school to be okay. So well done. WS. Good job. Thank you. Thank you
We are in the middle of our final series of the day and the winner of this series will be guaranteed top three here at Wallachia season
We've got Yandex, who is considered to be the favorite of the whole event to take it all, but they are down against Aurora, who amassed them in Game 1.
I'm very curious where Yandex is going to take this, because so far they've only dropped one game, this entire Relachia, and that was a game where they played Mars, which is a hero that is very dead.
It was also their first series of the event, so they were a little rusty and now, Kezu, they actually have some work to do.
No, absolutely. They need to make a couple of changes. I think if you're Aurora, you should be expecting Yannix to maybe take a later pick for Amar throughout this drafting stage.
And they're likely also going to be respecting this bounty hunter. I think we've now seen it in two separate series where the hero just kind of changed the entire early game.
Obviously like being able to run around in this and getting some stuns off like other heroes obviously can't really do that
So just you know making the games more uncomfortable. Yeah, no, I fully agree
I think you kind of gotta call the bluff you pick the gym is like are you gonna play an answer some clink some some obscure here
It's time beat me. Yes. Yeah, so I'm at the Timbers on at the do but yeah, yes, it happens
but
Hmm, I do think now in this game
I fully agree with Kenzie that if you are yandex of Mars probably can get a bit more priority in the draft unless there is
a way to protect him, they are second pick, so if they are to pick the offlane in first phase, you at least have two bans to protect it.
But, I mean, just socially if you think of him as a player, he's probably left that gaming on guys, I couldn't play this game.
Like, I want to play, I want to beat Skitter, let me play my game, so it's probably quite an emotional response from game one, but it's very going to be very helpful.
Do you think that Aurora is gonna still?
Well, they obviously have left timber saw in the pool
Do you think that Aurora is gonna pick the timber saw themselves and then beat Watson's Ursa?
That's these two flyfrets. I feel like now we're fabricating some bigger stories
Yeah, but it wouldn't be an Ursula from Watson
It'd be the clink's the most stable approach from at least a tournament
Ursa is still kind of that obscure side hero that is like kind of getting picked up and
because Yandex respects their support so heavily in both first pick priority and second pick
priority they're just letting through or trying to pretty much cool the bluff like hey we're sending
Ursa for it's in laundry if you send everything into the pool yeah and like they protected the two
you know taking out the nature's profit which is a good match up carry to carry you can kind of
also collapse on the laundry early on and like you said I mean if you're banning out all these
other dudes like bounty nix or at least like nix hoodring are not that common of
first-phase bands so sketer will get himself the lone druid which I think
fares fairly well against our serial pool from his other heroes yeah based on
the other game where there were a lot of bands also on the support pool of course
Mira ended up playing the banchanter this time around the only one still in
from from that kind of pool that we saw in that game was a win ranger still in
for now yeah that's overall good I think Jan next could still be looking at the
hero if they wanted to. I feel like there's also a world where Amar could run back a Timbersaw
if he wanted. I think this one around obviously you know that there can't be an Ursa. Because
most of his other heroes, most often they just struggle into Lone Druid. It's not that easy to
find guys that are going to be happy to go through this lane. To be fair, we've spoken so much about
the Skidiverse Amar lane that we haven't really spoken about Chirru Junior too much in that last
game. He had a pretty free ember game with the lockdown only being the storm of the bounty hunter
or golem and then he was rotating top, running in to four heroes getting bonded and dying to
like pretty much only right clicks as an ember. He ended the game 4-11 so I think he tried to do
too much on a hero thinking it was a free game and I think his own performance also kind of hurt
the ability to come back into a game that you were hoping to get to the late game for.
Yeah he definitely got a few times there by Miro on the bounty hunter like both early on the
runes, he got his water rune denied and he goes top on the play you said, gets stunned towards the
end and just, you know, kind of dies out. At least this time around has to play a new hero,
but I agree. I would definitely like to see him, you know, take a deep breath, maybe recalibrate
for this game because they got fully owned in that game one. Well, like, we know he can do it
because from day one, Church of the Day two, he was like, what a change. At least for Merritt,
we've already mentioned his hero is getting banned out quite heavily. But the main thing is with
bounty, nix and hoodwink. They are the most map exploring falls that you can play because the
windrangers, the moranas, they kind of play behind to the aggression. Sure, morana can press
inverse and then you walk a bit deeper, but they objectively want a core to be in front.
The three supports banned from Yandex by themselves investigate the map, but I think that's a really
cool concept at least Aurora, because mirror on these heroes are very, very good. I think tusk
and clockwork are like the replacements, but they're not really picked as much because of how
how powerful these three heroes are?
Yeah, definitely have to swap up at least something
because at some point you don't have enough replacements
for heroes that do something very specific.
Even when you now look at the range four pool,
who'd bring this band out, Willow is picked by the other team.
So yeah, if they wanna look for some melee guys,
you can always look for the Tusk that you mentioned,
which I think will be fine.
They're gonna go for the Witch Doctor Outer Phase,
which it's good, I think it's okay.
But the thing is that I think WS is quite confident
and also comfortable on a multitude of offline heroes.
It doesn't have to be a Tidehunter or a Timber, you can look for some summons again if you want to, maybe later down the line to close the phase, because here you can just pick double support and I think be quite happy.
Can I go back to the Warlock lineup?
I'd really like to see the double support personally, but with Warlock, again it's just one of those heroes that you pick it when you know you want your safe lane to just go well, with the Ursa's, with the Spectres, with the PA's, the Loan Druids.
I think the reason why we don't see much warlock competitively is because the carries need more aggression
But when you do pick the farming carries like this warlock, it's like it's still a no brainer the win rate
I don't think it really does justice to what what can still achieve. Also Kory Warlock. It's different
The hill was still the same federal bonds are still the same the main difference is you don't break them up at minute seven
You maybe do a minute ten and by minute ten. It's already too late. I think for golem to be as impactful due to the
OP-ness of the facet. I'm still a big fan of Warlock. One thing I would like to see more from Warlock players is considering upheaval earlier.
Like when you have Witch Doctor and Willow, if they get hit by like a level 2 upheaval, they are going to be stuck in their place.
Especially so you know, Witch was standing still.
But then you go for the wind, so most likely, I mean it is just going to be mirrored here due to the lunderid.
So I'm just wondering where they're gonna take this because you need to you're gonna have to show two course
It should be one of them should be a Mars hero and then the other one you can decide
Sitting back in the chair
Back in back in back in so so the aisle is the core. Yep. Well, how's there is to and he's leaning against laundry
Yeah, so it's Husker or Flane, IO carry.
It's a Mart, but it's IO then, it's Aishira playing or are you Watson IO?
Watson, Watson. I think so too.
And the idea is just going to be you have IO, Witch Doctor together, so Witch Doctor heals the IO.
It's a very, it's a much weaker version of the, remember like the ace tofu lanes of the past
where it's like offline doctor, but you are just going to have IO free files with Witch Doctor and
you just chill and then the Willow and Husker will try and bully as much as possible, but the summons
do come out. You are looking at a pretty nice lichen game. Whilst Hasuka puts pressure on the bot side,
Lichen will take it with them and take pressure topside, so you can kind of like equalize the Hasuka
game from just shifting the map set the entire time. I have a question. You got, if it's terrible,
let me know. Can they put the Windranger in Stoikov's hand and pick an AA?
Well, yeah, the option is there, but they will not do it.
WarlockAA's support duo is about one of the weirdest ones you can come up with, and the
good thing is for them, the reason they don't have to resort to that, they already like it,
it's insane in this game.
I think you can pick normal heroes, and they can also dumpster Ayo and Huskar.
Also, unfortunately, Ayo, like, anti-heal is not really the way to beat out Ayo, because
he's playing on, like, Axe, BKB, at, like, the 20-minute mark, Huskar also, yes, it's
an okay counter but the good hosca players will find what he said never get it i'm really sorry
as a fellow AA player it ain't it sure the hero is tough man it's tough to make work
unfortunate maybe they'll move the a week old feet further back i know why why why
why don't they fight i don't know what anti-fund dev did that's crazy please if you're listening
two other AA fans out there are enjoying this all right it's hating on us for no reason no no
At the final stages of this draft, we are looking for mid laners, we have an Earthshaker and a Storm Spirit already removed from the pool.
Stoikov versus Shearer Jr. What's it going to be? Have we already removed Ember as well and the Earth Spirit of course and Invoker as well?
I like the Storm Spirit ban. I think it really tied the last draft together because it was like the initiation, the pick-off, the map play.
Everything came through Stoikov and Stoikov. When you look at these heroes once again, it is going to be the same case.
I think the main difference is Lone Druid, unlike an Ursa, Ursa goes like Butterfury Blink plays into game, Lone Druid goes Mjolnir, then Aggs, then plays into the map, so you are looking at a mid laner maybe punching a bit more into the game, a little bit quicker.
I'm also looking at Yandex's draft, and like if I'm Jura Junior, I don't know what the hell I need to pick. I was looking at like maybe Pango, you know the guy always pulls to get out of the draft, but right now our teamfight is kind of weak, no one really wants to go in first.
and first I mean Husker can be in front so like there's like the Pango shaker
were great bands maybe Sand King and you probably get run over if you pick like
an actually in both three band don't worry yeah like a lot of the good options
are bands so like and there's no chance you put Husker mid and there's a great
overall last you could do that only if Aurora hand that situation to you okay
like if they pick some random me limit guy like some monkey king perhaps
Well we'll see. Because this is over the last bit for you Alex and we'll go for Snapflyer.
I like that one.
It's just like get away from me type hero, right? You're going to skip waves. I think
the main thing that Aurora has kind of baked into their draft is if there is a window of
Iowa Husker taken over the game, you have to waste it. Lundra, Bear will eventually
do it. Warlock can do it with fatal bombs, Lycan, Sons will do it. Snapflyer can do it.
You have ways to just delay the game. Because you and Dex, you look at their heroes, they
They hit this incredible mid-game timing, and after that, if they don't continue it,
in theory they should maybe have some problems, depending on the last pick.
That's a disgusting amount of heal, by the way, with the Iowa Witch Doxer.
Yeah, it's true.
They definitely can get there, at least to go to the Sapphire.
First of all, Snap is really good against heroes that want to play aggressive, like
Haska, Razor, Viper, lane dominators.
They always play very aggressively into the lane, so if you get your ult, you can easily
go there.
you can cookie both walls and the bears throughout the game, which is great.
And when Liking gets his first ult, if Snapfire goes even just off the map with his ult,
I think you have to evacuate your entire safe lane.
Isn't this where you could just pick up some sanks, like mid lane.
You hide within the sandstone, you play Sentry Warfare.
Yeah, that's right. I think it's good.
You give it a simple blink stun for them to relocate the follow.
I don't think we need to see anything too flashy from the mid lane,
but something to start the fight would be quite nice,
because the IO ideally wants to be with the Husker running in or tebbing his own creep.
Yeah, it's the best hero I already saw earlier. After they banned those two heroes,
I don't know how many more options that they have left, realistically,
because a lot of the ranged heroes that you could look that do well against Snap in the
lane and throughout the game, I don't think that those heroes complete your draft in any means.
Well, they are running out of time.
Yeah, I don't see much outside of like some sanking.
Maybe there's conquer, but that hero evensoul is also not that good against Snap.
I will be not a siren.
Okay, they're playing mid-Io then.
That's a decent option I did not consider.
No, I'm just trying to, I need to calibrate, because I didn't consider the Io going mid, which is fine against Snap.
I don't think it's a bad matchup whatsoever.
So ever I have a comment to throw at your guys as well
I'd love to hear your own salt of the pinion because it's not actually my comment
It's the comment of Tony Montana 666 on YouTube. This can't be good
Two comments actually I'll take them back to back Yandex is out of the meta easy to all for
Aurora for sure
For sure called it and he said this before the draft
I
Wouldn't say Yandex down to the method
I think the shaman in the last game was a little bit less filled, but everything else was fine.
Yandex in this game has comfort on every single player, Bartier Jr.
He's only played one competitive iota game before this series,
and that was a month ago, when he went 3-9-20 on the hero.
It is not a play-hero combination you think about, so that is the one
question mark to Yandex, how well can he play on the iota?
Because everyone else, this is like their level 30 crushing pubs heroes.
And then I have a question a query for people watching on YouTube if you think
That Yanix has this in the back. Mm-hmm. Please like the channel. I will like the channel
If you think that Aurora got this in the bag
also go like the channel thank you very much only winners here today yeah I mean
no one gets eliminated true that is true and I to be fair with the draft like
this you would want a game three here I mean I think so because whatever Yannick's
cooked up here it looks really weird I think it can work because it's a great
naga game to be honest against the rest but this is yeah this is like the ice
frog meme like you don't know like it's weird but you're gonna eat it anyway I
wanted to go to a game three but also I thought like Yannick's draft will
their learn draw dancer. I don't know about the IO though, kind of random. But yeah, I
think they're maybe trying something new. I mean the IO is particularly interesting because
it was pretty popular at TI but then you know notably failed at the last hurdle.
And then we really haven't seen too much of it, a little bit of a nerf. So yeah I mean
your surprise is, do you still think it's playable? We don't really play it so don't really have much
Yeah, I think so. Okay, yeah.
Fair enough. Well, talk to me about your own heroes, and obviously you've got the Druid, you've got some other cool stuff as well. There's Lycan as well.
Are you feeling confident about the draft?
Yeah, I mean, every time WS plays Lycan, he owns, so yeah, stop banning it, guys. Stop banning it and let us play it. Thank you.
Alright, well, yeah, let's hope he doesn't do too well then, otherwise it probably will be banned for the future.
I'm not sure, but yeah, good luck in this second game. Maybe you can get the two over here as we send it over to our castors with OD Pixel and Fogged.
Yep, game due time here, ready to go. Aurora vs Jactix. Jactix giving us some exciting picks this time round, switching things up, which they very much wanted to do so after what was quite a tough game one for them against a very scary looking Aurora.
And yeah, I gotta say, you don't need that.
Maybe not enough respect given to the Lycan letting it through again.
I think so as well.
I'm thinking the same.
You know, I mean, I'd say quietly, but not so quietly,
last game, having a pretty great time on the Lycan,
getting a lot done, taking over a lot of the map.
They've let him have it again.
And I think me and you were talking about Amira's
going to take a lot of damage from this now and then.
Will he actually die from it?
It's going to be kind of close.
He's got very, very, very fire sense in him.
He's fine against the level one.
I was checking to see the Blundernave,
of my audience, I think used it already or something, but either way, heavy damage on
Tamira. Yeah, I think they pivoted at the last bit, right, because this is such a good
liking game, and that's why they had to go for something like Naga and switch things
out, because I mean, you were talking about, what do you do versus Witch Docter in some
of these lanes? This hero actually has been ruining a lot of the offlaners. Liking is
like the best hero to play versus Witch Docter, so.
What, just because you had the high HP regen or what?
Summons.
Summons.
Okay, just having Summons.
on the way stop to never let him get close enough to what just be in position and kind
of get this matter not letting some run you out of life. Yep, you can always do this.
You can't really deal with some of that. Oh, as a way to start positions in particular,
he's actually going to get a courier snipe to nice micro from WS. You can pull waves
or mirror and later you just kill a mirror now. He's dead. Steps up a bit too far to
try for a power shot. And he will pop first blood for malady. We'll be able to like and
right away, but he actually gets the side-pull, kind of, never mind, gets connected, so attempting
to survive as much as possible.
So this is the pivot the Yandex went for, they go for the Naga pick, they're trying
to answer the Lycan because of that, but the rest of this stuff, we'll see how that ends
up working, because Amar, he is getting to play one of his most comfortable heroes in
the off-lane, and perhaps that is one of those answers versus the Lone Druid.
Later in the game, Life Break is very good, Mercy the Bear chunks at half HP pretty much.
The mid-Io is one that's just curious to me, because it did get nerfed.
I think that 10% nerf, it comes at the 15 talent though.
But kind of everyone went away from it for some reason.
That was close there, I mean maybe even if Stokov wanted to play at risky, he might have
been able to get that, but plays it safe, cookies back away from the spirits.
See how cheered does on this hero in particular, because this is a very specialist type of
thing that you do have to be quite practiced on. And Chira, he does have his, I want to
say limited hero pool, but he has the specific ones that he tends to go towards. So I'm curious
to see how he's going to be on the IO. But the fact that they pivoted it to mid instead
of playing Watson as the carry IO, that says a lot about what they think about the lichen
game. Looking to have that answer for his WS.
I see how much of an issue that that Huskar will be indeed for the left road, as you say.
Yeah, it's got some clear strengths against it and it'll be fun to see obviously this time as opposed to last time
This is very much what I'm are
countering what Skeeter wants exact last game. We'll see Skeeter go. Okay, I'm our sinister timber
Give me the ursa this time around the other way around and are saying Skeeter's shown us his lone druid
I want to hit him half with the huskar again
Because you got to imagine this is something that I'm on knows that Skeeter does not like to play against when he gets
I love that we're seeing this like just we're gonna have so many of these falcons players at these tournaments
Right and probably making it pretty deep into these tournaments as we're seeing majority of them are getting to that point
So they're fun to see the changes
I only have in the shackle and the pastures and no way to get away from these sort of moves
He'll end up dying again to malady that creep owned him
She came in for the perfect access. That was pretty funny here.
Mid lane though, so far, Stoikov is having the edge in terms of CSing vs the Isle.
But I think that could be the case sometimes for this Isle, which is a farmer.
And he actually gets a febrile to downjow and return him with a failed ball.
I mean, Skeeter, the Baron.
Not going to quite be able to get him off.
And now they know that's a resubmitter.
If they can kill Skeeter here in the lane, that would be massive of a mark.
Does hit him with the slow, lines up for the shackles.
Slektrinate it.
They got it.
Miro though.
He's dead.
Now Skeeter, he can clean up a second, he can.
He will die in a malady doing as you do on a wish doctor.
Third kill for him, keeping the killing spirit going.
Alright, well, there's full chaos.
Getting some big kills, but I think you know the fact that he brings down two heroes on
the way out there.
He's got no bear when he's got no bear when he's got no bear.
He's very unhappy.
He's got burst of breath recently.
You're alright.
He is crying.
He is not going to be so happy.
He's crying now.
Have to just play a lot safer in the lane now.
Might just have to pull, reset positioning.
I am just a chaotic starter already to things here.
Two to five.
Naga Siren set up for success.
So as we keep saying for Watson, he's just how strong is the hero overall?
I haven't gotten to see it played as the carry.
I mean, I'm going to see it played much at all recently.
But versus Lycan, you can absolutely see the reason as to why they want it.
It's just how good is it going to be versus the snapfire, in particular when Stoicov has this go to the game.
Looking forward to see what the snap can do.
A hero that's, again, kind of disappeared.
Just from a couple of these nerfs.
Chira.
Chira.
One of my Skeeda.
He's dead.
He is self-framed without his fat.
And Chira will survive.
Oh, actually, we might not survive because she's out.
Good action packed game.
But Skeeter, like you said, truly feeling the pain in him, are.
He's getting revenge.
He's getting revenge.
He is, that's the last game and...
A Malady he's lovinglocking.
Now there's another kill for Malady.
Keeping to mid, if he wants to get involved even more, he's got Lotus to play with.
We can pull out by the shackle.
He's just walking at him.
Still have to get the Malady.
Pick up Reload, Jay.
He's going to mirror up.
He's going to kill him.
Coming up on for Malady.
As it is mega kill street care for Malady carry witch doctor
It's a good game to pop off as a witch doctor because you do have that iron so you get some good levels
You know the term you're gonna be able to
Join forces and be very strong. It's good. It's good when you're both comboed up
Especially if you shut down the lichen
I think that's the important thing if the lichen's not able to just run you down with the summons with the dominator with the
Overlord, that's where the witch doctor is gonna actually look quite a bit better
and these lanes going pretty solid. The Naga pivot to the top lane, Watson's
absolute free farm, Huskar chilling in free farm and slowing down Skeeter.
And Chira now at this point, this is kind of farmed as he is. He's backed up,
user spirits at maximum, get the axe on Tommy.
Stepped up, there's a bit of a surprise from here, the proposed support's ready to turn.
Amar, he'll jump away. He's livin'. He's gonna get out.
Skidner even buying the Orb of Corrosion on lane this time around too.
Sometimes I've seen some players skip it, but since he's playing versus Huskar Iowich
Doctor absolutely wants to have this pick up for the anti-region.
Solid opening though for Yandex.
Their answers so far are looking like they are working.
Arun, Stokov. They'll get it. Chira will be able to find that one as well, and then damage
filling up Malady as well. This draft is going to farm very hard. The Io and the Nagasarn.
So I would say for Aurora, definitely want to try to mount some pressure here somehow.
But again, complicated because of these counter picks and counter switchups that they've
See how much Stoikov can get done. I think for me it's eyes on him in terms of running
this early game. Getting close to the boots of travel, kisses are at the ready because
he's the one, when you look at the drafts, right, who's gonna kill Watson?
Oh, he's the big daddy.
It's gotta be Stoikov. At least to later stages.
Let's see if they can find him with the smoke played towards top.
He's got a point health for the sleep.
If they can get kind of a shackle into a cookie, maybe that'd be enough to lock down Maledi,
they're already finding Kori deep on their side of the map and they don't want to use the kisses
it's not going to be a guaranteed kill he doesn't want to waste them looking pretty good if he
undexed looking really nicely malady is he is doing everything 601 every rotation hitting he's
about it. Six, Soxa already level six. That's because of the bear kills. The bears that they
were able to find bottom is a very early six on the Willow. And the pairing, when their
lineup all goes together, their gear could absolutely be some damage problems. I'm looking
at Aurora. You're not going to get through the sustain and heals that they have. The
most damage hero is it snap until some items start coming up from the lichen and the londruid.
might take some time and there's answers not a very good versus liking at all
stages of the game. We'll be able to get the tower and we'll get away. Stokov has
boots to travel he'll be fine. Can you get a power rune?
The thing about turning, we've got Mira coming over the rotation.
Camry is gonna go into the hands of Chirijunia they just do not have the
setup and damage to try and threaten Yandex down at the river. I'm so
worry for their damage.
That's the thing as well, obviously with the mid pick being the snap, they don't really
have anyone right that can buy Vessel or...
Yeah, maybe a support.
Just maybe the wind ranger trying to pick it up.
But I mean, it's gonna be so long.
It's gonna be so late.
I mean, why do you think they did decide to kind of go that way without maybe picking
a mid?
But they just know mid's left that could have done a Vessel build?
Because Vessel would have been kind of crazy right?
It is a bit interesting to see that they did go for the snap, right?
Yeah.
I'm trying to think of maybe the other reasoning for it, but...
I guess they wanted something early game.
Because he's like, I don't know, without any sort of counter healing, it's like,
how are you gonna stop that?
That's just for keeping everybody at full HP.
And just free-f-
I feel like they're gonna free from it.
I don't know how they pressure Watson.
Amar is gonna occupy quite a bit and just bring attention to him.
And then I can relocate him.
This does feel like it's gonna be very hard.
Yeah, very early.
Really really are adding up the pivot is amazing and this is a solo kill
It's just too easy from on his wish don't know
Zero motion from him
Question is how early this game is gonna be queued up their diagram after the holy lock it
I think he might yeah with this type of start. Why not a
Naga siren line up having this type of lead is dangerous just with how fast the hero farms and just a limit
I'm just looking at the damage. I'm really feeling damage problems. Windranger, Warlock, no damage.
Now, Bikin's damage versus Naga is non-existent.
Shurt, Decent versus Support, but there's gonna be sustain.
Moundraged game is shut down.
Yeah, so...
Oof! Where'd he go from here?
WS, he is going to die to the Spears.
Nice try with the Micro too. Uses the Wildwing Ripper to push himself away, but it's a Prussian everywhere.
What do you do?
And X may have gotten kind of destroyed in that first game, but looks like they're doing similar this time around
I'm not scared of we'll get the adults off
Is here can we find some way to make a play with the kisses doesn't look like it meanwhile Watson gets himself another
Kill killing up for a here's melody
the cars
Kisses are coming in
Good connection. Let's take him out
They find another they catch don't go
He's the one to watch in this early game, he is literally all the damage for his team.
Good cookie forward.
It looked a little scary for a second because I think Skidder was still mal-addicted, but didn't actually have any damage applied onto him.
So taking advantage of the fact that Relo was on cooldown nicely.
All eyes on this snap to control the pressure.
To play around Relocate is going to have to be pretty important too, right?
If he's... every time he uses kisses it's like when relocated has to be on cooldown or he has to just be very well prepared for it to come in.
Because if he just gets relocated on top of he is going to just get incinerated.
So he has to be very careful with his positioning on the snapfire.
Now I'm sure Watson's telling his team guys I got this in the bag.
He is absolutely chilling on the Naga Siren.
Items can come naturally for him. He has a clear separation between him and the rest.
pretty good orca game too actually
it's like in versus snap they've been able to trip them over the crowd balls
relocates coming in from cheer junior nax is done see the jump forward gonna
deal with the bat and you can see the damage the reason why the husk are so
good versus that bear not only just right clicking through it but the
lifebreak chunks in one third HP every single time to just continuing this
Aggression here relocate was used as a roar want to try to make a move when that is uncooled out 20 seconds to kisses
Austin it's not gonna try and fight for the wisdom not gonna risk his positioning
Kory golem is online the kisses are online
We surely they want to try and
Go for a spike maybe in the direction of what's honey?
It's so hard to find him. Yeah, if you do find him right he's probably getting the song off
Yeah, this game. They don't have something like that bounty hunter. They're just scouting everything out to or anything
They're gonna have to just I mean yeah, they have like in right to give some type of scouting information
But he's just always gonna be at a press on and in sort of the worst situations you've got a golem you go to shack
We show that's it
It's sort of stop him melody
They get the scan connection on to a mar he is pretty squishy at the moment he relocates
back up in 10 seconds.
Lost WS.
And we'll get holiday.
That's a big streak to end.
Skeeter gets the last hit.
That's actually pretty important for him.
Needs any type of acceleration he can get at this point.
That should be the blink for Stoikova, so in terms of gap closing, this is the one that
they needed to get the Naga Siren right.
If he can get the cookie into point blank, of course, can be dangerous itself since he
does have Orc and already finished up on the Naga Siren, but...
It's a realo, Skeeter, he's dead pretty far up the lane there, Skeeter, he's gonna regret that.
It's so hard to play the map on Aurora.
And maybe we are probably gonna maybe see more of this aisle mid too, because I kind of forgot
how strong this was for a bit. It did get nerfed like I said, but it doesn't, the nerf doesn't come
to a 15 talent. It's only a 10% nerf. Especially when a team, you know, like Yandex are showing that
that they still have that flexibility, right? It's scary because Chira's giving us a good
game on it and we know as well if it happened in Kari, Watson would have also given us quite
the showing. So a very strong hero in multiple positions in their hands, Jan Dex.
It's just a really clever way that they did pivot this whole thing. Just getting this
Naga pick. It's, you said, you know, YWS was amazing on the like in this game or the last
game. They just have the answers this time. Multiple different of them. He hasn't been
able to really take advantage of the fact that he was versus a witch doctor
using any of these summons they're coming out so late the overlord is finished
now but the map control they just yeah they have no map control whatsoever on
the side of Aurora right now Skeeter
cheer I might just kill him solo here looking like it thank you will so it's
pretty good. Forgot how good it was. So what were the nerfs? 10% nerf on 15 talent.
Okay. That's it. That's it. I'm getting a nice set of one of the glow for them. And
another reload. It just, it feels like it's up all the time. When a Mars closing in, we're
nearly getting close enough to the life break. Look at the Overlord. He just pops his ult.
Watson's here. He can sing the song if he wants to.
Does he want to save Saksa?
They'll save him.
He's a generous carry here.
Happy to keep his supports alive.
He plays it safe too. Doesn't just try to TP because there is a golem as well too.
So he ends up being protected versus that as well.
We have a damage gauge.
Gonna take some time for them to have ways to deal with all this.
And the Naga, the next item, yeah, I just, when he gets hard, how do they actually bring him down?
It's gonna be so fast that he gets it, he's already a 5,000 separation between him and Skeeter.
And Skeeter, just, yeah, he's not really able to farm safely. No bear. Another five seconds
till he does have one, if I'm ready, but...
Go for the brooch.
He'll get it, he's not gonna die.
Oh, you never know.
He's not gonna die.
Sometimes...
He's not gonna die.
They might, you know, sweat your fingers, your keys, slip a bit, you miss the toggle.
It can happen to the best of us.
If he dies, I will buy you...
A house.
A house.
Thank you.
And to the roadside only.
I'm just going to be careful.
Next.
Naughty.
The wolves are still kind of owning him, as you do see there are summons.
Very annoying, but he's got the extra heals.
Oh, and they come.
Straight over the top, mate.
It's going to be a death WS.
Can they get anything in return?
They're looking for a mom and a mom's going to be fine with the toggle, stays alive, kills off Stoikov.
This game is out of control. They do not have the answers.
They might just be able to get the victory a little quicker than Aurora did against the Game 1.
So if the Game 1 won whilst it was very one-sided, it did take 38 minutes.
This lineup, they can push through.
Exactly, I think that's sort of the challenge they've got now, Yandex. They're trying to do their best to out-stomp Aurora in this game too, after what happened to them in game one.
So when Amar gets heart, Naga gets heart, and I already feel it's unkillable with all the heals, yeah, it's too much of a combination of everything.
They could go triple half there.
They could.
Amar.
Let's get up.
I think they know it's over.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
He runs up.
He runs up and cripples the hot scar with his hero and you're feeling it.
Hang on, Saxon!
But, uh, yeah, Skeeter's game...
You know, it has absolutely flipped on his head from Game 1.
Oh, you know, Skeeter, he got to destroy Amar, make Amar cry in Game 1.
Game 2, Amar gets to destroy Skeeter and make Skeeter cry in Game 2, so...
Pat's success looks pretty clear right now for Yandex.
There's so many different counters, so much different sustain, no vessel hero on the side
of Aurora, and just the lanes too.
They own the lanes really hard.
Storkov coming up probably even if they're heading out of head versus the Isle, but the
side lane is pretty devastating.
Malady.
I mean, WS doesn't want to be annoying to him, but the heals, they're coming in.
got the protection of the Naga. Alright, Vessel, it's done, Windranger's done it.
They needed it on someone. It was always going to take a long time though with the
cause not being able to fit into their builds, but see this there.
And at this point, it's a lot weaker than like at 9-man, so of course they have more
than enough answers, it does feel like it. There you go.
Alright, get some revenge on Malady. Malady worth a bit. You know this is the one thing
Think about these whistokes as you just said, you know, they get these kills to get ahead.
But when they start dying, it gives them a fair bit of gold.
That's possible, you know what they tell you.
Grigory, there I got no care if I die, Grigory.
Connection, socks up.
Ah, another one.
Another one.
Oh, Jira.
He is too strong.
He's probably ready to kill.
Yeah.
How much more for that?
It's out.
Watson has the heart already.
tier 2
a lot of time
he's believing in himself
I like it, don't give up
well they didn't pull
I like it
they haven't flipped their tier 2s
and another tier 2 is about to fall
but that was a 20 minute 17
wasn't that when he just ran up the top lane
and died auto attacking him?
maybe it was one of those like
right after he died
I feel like that probably was before that
But still they're after that kind of death kind of look like Skeeter was like well, let's go game free
Yeah, it does feel like it's gonna be a 99% chance game three
And probably just some big adaptations in the game snap fire this time definitely does not look very great
Of course, but it is all just these pivots that Yandex did do that makes everything look pretty underwhelming from the side of Aurora this game
game. And yeah, the IOMID, I think it's gonna have to start getting back to being thought
about for a lot of people.
Skeeter prepare
Chirra's going in wait
I was very nice to done that by Chirra. I mean you said just as soon as he comes in immediate BKB
No, yeah used that so complaints the fit
I think he didn't tether Malady though and use Malady was like y'all bring me over for the cast
What Malady's just gonna steal the kill if it does that. Why'd you have Malady?
Maybe that's why he's gonna bring him. I'm bringing you over. You're just gonna steal my kill
WS is dead! Stoikov! Taken out as a maw, continue to chase him into the corner of the map.
It's a shellacking. They chase him out. Socks that will get the tip. He baited him completely there.
He's confident he was living. Now another catch.
I think they might have out stomped them. I think this is more of a stomping game.
Yep. I don't even know if Mira's gotten the chance to use a vessel.
He only got it two minutes ago, but it's just impossible to use it on anybody now
There's I mean there's more than just now gay issues, of course butterfly finished as well
I'm giving it a hundred percent plus pre racks that doesn't happen very often
Time to close it up
You just hit with the bat.
They're going to kill the bear.
The bat looks pretty dead.
Yeah.
But the kiss is...
Oh, there was only one kiss.
Oh, we have to stop it immediately.
Just hit the side.
Golem's going to drop down on a once.
If it wasn't, it should have his butterfly delivered.
As Jerry Giddie kills up there,
Emeril will buy back his straight away.
Skeeter's dead in the face.
They're going to fall this way.
So I think they're well.
As Yandex, they might lose a lot, but never mind, you guess the triple, he'll survive.
They don't even lose the Huskar.
Everyone healing, and Mira.
Also GG.
It's cool. Well, K2, Yandex, they came back very hard after a rough game one, and they've outstopped Aurora.
Yep, and really honestly, the pivot, the kind of genius pivot, sure, Aurora could have maybe desired a better last pick in particular,
But last picking with this Naga Siren, putting the IO in the mid,
having them on this Huskar versus the Lone Druid,
it just, yeah, 15 minutes in, the game was completely over.
Yeah, it was just too much for Aurora to be able to adapt to and deal with themselves.
They struggled big time.
Can't wait to see what goes down in Game 3.
It's 1-1 now with both teams finding a stomp against each other
between Yandex and Aurora.
Yeah, you have to hope that Game 3 is a, you know,
competitive back and forth between two top tier teams.
this game was definitely not
it for Aurora. There were a
lot of moving parts, but
actually the main moving part
of this game were probably the
I. O. Relicating everywhere
all the time. I think cheer
Junior. We were curious, Kazoo.
If he was going to live on the
I. O. Mid, it felt very good.
Trust me. He did. You know, it
didn't really consider it
because the 24 picnaga. It's
disgusting. It makes a graph of
really wonky, but you know,
against the loan druid, man of the honest which doctor I don't know he keeps going like seven zero in every early game as well and then I mean the game was really difficult for our I don't know if there's much more for me to say.
There was really not much to say about this game. I mean, what skitter did to a modern game one skitter a martyr to skitter in game two.
Reverse Uno. Reverse Uno. You know, you crush the lane. You just make them look like they just just not even to the caliber of player that they are the speed in which you and that's collapsed on this map.
that was just, it's so so scary. I, to be fair, in this series so far, in game one, you forget
Skidder, top four most played heroes in the earth, sir, you get Earthen. In game two, you kind of
forget that Amar plays Husker, you get Husker. Like, both players that we spoke about to great
lengths in the series, how about their specialty heroes, be presented, and then also be a key
point of the draft. But also, it's not really just Husker, right? Which of them pops off? I don't
pop sauce now the pop sauce but it's like because of the half-score pick it creates
the complications for everyone else to shine and then because of the acid pick it creates the
complications for everyone else to shine right so it is just please can game three just be close
this is i did very much enjoys Peter's optimism i just need a lot of time we got long dude long
dude game and just need a lot of time i mean you do want to say that and you believe it to like
one percent you kind of know it's not true but maybe they make some mistakes and you do get a
a lot of time. I mean don't apply didn't believe even oh yeah the game was cooked you're right.
When Dota plus sets 100% you are fully cooked. Yeah 100% it's just you still keep paying that you
don't give up. That is rule one of the two never give up boys. No it was uh it was very one sided
for sure on the side of Yandex I think that the MVP has to go to Shiro Jr on the IO it is not a hero
that we see him play frequently and he picked it up as if he just had five games in a row with it
yesterday and didn't miss a beat. Yeah, I mean second competitive game on the hero this time around
statistically sorry looked a lot better and even that the ethos pick to throw in. That was cool.
I like that. Like go for the like and all that stuff. Like it was a great little kind of pivot
but also when the game is so easy he could have like Dagon. He could have a random refresher if
he wanted to and he probably would play as good. Yeah, it's like when you're mid and your sidelines
are kind of owning or like your safe and it's elevating complete pressure there's nothing
happening in that lane and your offline is doing so good that he could relocate there at any moment
and two guys will just die like even if he relocates in with balls that's it go afk kills are done
that was that funny huh yeah relocated with balls yeah i mean the balls were swaying he was all
around the map he didn't care left him right up and down he was just killing everything we could take
a look at some of those balls as we are gonna relive one of those relocates yeah because this is
This is cool stuff. How often have you ever been relocated on by a husker and ioballs?
No, I mean, I've not been I mean, I've been relocated on many times. Yeah, but like this one because I think they were even waiting for skidder who they had just killed to maybe go bottom
But then what's in is here on top of the top tier one tower because mind you no tier one has died yet
So this was Ammar leaving his off lane to go to Jira junior to then relocate into the safe lane at minute 11
This is not a normal play, but I love it. It's good. It's great
It's unpacked a deeper rooted problem. Let's talk about it. It's not that I have balls
It's the twin gates because that whole play it only works because now half-slipping twin gate back
And he's not really punished for all this movement. Are you sure did he even go?
I'm just trying to pivot away from the balls in any way possible. I was trying to get away from it
For a second because we're gonna look at the two other cores on the side of yandex
Yeah, two more balls that I want to talk about is off. No, it's not in the inventory
Oh, my bad. I got the wrong time even way Watson and there's one. Yeah
There's one heart on the side for Watson and a mark literally just picked up the high
It's like 24 30 like it's seconds away
But the point is that 24 minutes they both had the heart it was on the Mars courier and
There's the two other balls in the game and it like how come on if you're playing Dota 2 and you look at one guy with a heart
You're like
Don't you we'll go for the next guy
You're like
You're alone, you've got me all day, no agonies. Your warlocks just got a golem and just hope, prayer is in a tip, like, there's nothing you can do in this game.
Then there's a song and I will heal, relocate, and I will stop there. Okay, GG.
Yep, thanks for playing. It was great fun. We respect you a lot, but game three, the drafts.
It better.
It better.
It better be competitive and close and back and forth. Let's see what happens.
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you're going to get some
little riddles. So I'm going
to start off with a little
bit from a Yandex. We're
going to play a little game. Um
how good is your poetry, Malady?
Poetry. Yeah, it sucks. It
sucks. Well, that's a shame. I
don't even know the definition
of the word. Well, we are going
to give you some little riddles
some rhyming riddles are
basically and they're going to
describe either a Dota
character or a Dota item, and
you're going to try and guess
what it is. You have two and a
half minutes to get as many as
Is there any time you need a hint? Just say it and some letters will appear for helping you out.
And then finally, you also have one skip to use. If you really can't get through one,
you can skip and we can get past it, alright?
Oh, if I don't use any hints, do I have extra points or not?
Uh, yeah, we'll give you a gold star.
Alright.
Alright, you ready?
Yeah.
Alright, let's get started with Dota Letters.
Here's your first one.
I strike foes down with a burst from my tip, but no one seems to build me anymore.
RIP. What am I?
Hint. All right, let's see it. D.
Is it the item? What am I? Yes, it is an item.
I don't know. Dildo.
Can we get another Hint? Another Hint.
Another Hint. All right.
Vagan. That's it. Yes, stay good. Absolutely.
Let's do the next one.
I limp into battle with a great big moan.
I can double in size and take your health on a loan.
Who am I?
Who am I?
Who are you?
I have no idea. Hint.
I'm dying. Absolutely right. Yes, there we go. We're doing well with the hints. Let's get into the next one
I'm the biggest guy around with the highest strength gain
Offer a rock at your head. Primal beast. Exactly right. Very very good. Let's go. Let's go. Keep it going
I'm a shifty guy. My ulti makes a double. I can win games alone despite looking like a puddle. Who am I?
I don't know. Hint? Hint?
Morphling. Yes, exactly. Let's go. Let's get the next one going
You'll know my name if you've read Shakespeare. I dance around flights with my ethereal sphere. Who am I?
hint
Fuck yes, exactly. There you go. Let's get the next one in this item closes that gap between those you hate
Used by fishermen of old to put big fish on your plate
No, what am I? What am I?
I don't know.
Hint.
Hint.
Parkour.
Yes, exactly, exactly nice.
Let's go.
I go before hint.
You're flying, you're flying.
This item is based off a king that wanted too much,
famous for his greed and his desire to touch.
What am I?
Yes, exactly right.
Well done, good knowledge.
Right before battle, take a long puff.
Suddenly, their spells just don't seem so tough.
What am I?
It's a black king bar.
It's hard off the rask?
No, it's not.
Hint.
Pipe of insides.
Yes, that's right, that's right, let's go, let's get the next one in.
An annoying spell, an AOE inhibit, bonking you on the head with a reverberating rivet.
What am I?
Frogs storm?
No.
Yes!
Oh, it is!
You got it!
You got it!
That was impressive!
All right, next one.
When I'm pressed, my user becomes round, better attack fast before I hit the ground.
What am I?
Hit the ground, they're shaker.
No.
No.
Hint?
You got this.
Skip.
Skip.
Alright, let's go to the last question. Quick, quick, quick.
It's one of the most valuable items in the game without its many charges.
Dota wouldn't feel the same.
Magic one to my magic wand, exactly.
Good job, dude. Good job. That was impressive.
You seem to get them pretty damn quickly once you got back that first letter.
Yeah. What was the last one, actually?
You got it. Magic wand.
Oh, the one before it? Yeah, the one before it.
Supernova.
Alright, I would never have guessed that.
The spear hit it, a round thing hitting the ground.
Yeah, it was a tough one, but that is 10 correct answers, Maldi.
That is definitely the best we've had so far.
good job shake your hand how do you feel do you feel inspired to go and write some poetry for
your friends for your team poetry no no i suck at that i hate literature okay all right excellent
well yeah reject literature become a famous donor player that's what you should do at home as well
thank you meldy we'll send it back
he must have won that quiz i think he's one with the the most answers i don't think i've heard
anybody else getting 10 correctly. And let's see if you can win this one as well because it's
one to one between Yandex and Aurora. Winner is top three. It will play against LGD tomorrow
in the upper bracket finals. And both games were kind of one-sided. It was entertaining. Don't get
me wrong. Don't get me wrong. It was fun. But I think it's time for, you know, even back and forth.
and maybe a lot of that comes down to the draft because both games so far on the hindsight, especially TGov, have been quite clear-cut in terms of who won the draft.
Yeah, it's not even like who won the draft, but it's like who's just got the better lanes because both of these teams are... I think Yandex we already knew it, but I think Aurora has proved to be a team that if they can get through the lanes, they have the discipline to just win the game.
And that's the most exciting thing from the series is seeing that development for them, which then obviously compounds do drafts must be stable lanes
Can't be this volatile you like you can't have naga into a like and you kind of husker into laundry
Then in the previous game you can't have a
Ulcer into a timber right as both teams have had the same mistakes
But I think it's just kind of testing each other out and that's okay. I see what type of game we're playing here
I see your game. I see your game take a deep breath and
Logically game three should be close. Yeah, like at this point
they've been info farming for like two games like you need to now know what are the heroes that can
really like get you in a way where maybe before they just didn't account for those heroes or
forgot about them whatever it is but I do think that the point T just made stands very true because
Aurora in both games you can see their drafts at like 10 to 20 minutes they're gonna run at you
so if you cannot fight into them you need to disrupt them before with some like you know picks
that they don't expect or like owning them in lanes but this has to be the type of game that will be
the most even because you're not getting away against these type of teams with like out drafting and
with pocket picks two games in a row. It's also very interesting with Yandex where they've utilised
you know the earth spirit flex to afford to enable a Viper pick, they then have the IOPIC which we
assumed to be carry suddenly goes to mid for Chiro Junior to get a Naga like in this tournament
Yandex are showing that their core players their support players they're willing to to make a draft
look a little weaker on paper, fill the better lanes because they know if they get to that 15-20
They will just win the game. That's how good they are.
It is going to be easy for us to say it, but if in the draft, if there is a hero that is flexible, that is yet to be shown, that is the way that Yannix is catching teams out.
I want to see where they take it from here, because in Game 1, Lone was banned.
Then in the second game we just watched, they first picked the Lone Druid and protecting it with the Nature's Prophet.
But now they're going back to actually banning it again.
So obviously Aurora have a different thing in mind of what they want to pick here to the start of the draft.
the draft. Yeah, the self-banned lone druid is we don't want to ban Husker. What are we doing?
We have to ban the lone druid then. And it's like change also on the side of Yandex's bans.
They banned out the enigma. They banned it our previous game as well, but they banned it on the
second phase that time around. It was the hoodwink that was banned out first phase for them in
game number two. It's a really smart ban as well, because when you ban enigma on the seventh slot,
you are telling a raw site, if you first pick lone druid, if you don't ban Husker or enigma,
no matter what we're gonna get one of them against you so it kind of spooky of course
Amar isn't an enigma player isn't an enigma player yeah but maybe like I feel like the
way that Janus is playing I'm expecting a world's first at some point from him a reminder even
though the couch he said he doesn't play it I feel like within this year there has to be one game
where he tries it I call cap I don't think he will oh brother one game no it's Amar guys this is
like it's like the 33 embodiment of if there's a good hero I will not touch this hero okay fair
enough but I will hold it there. One point in this competitive season we'll see one game at it.
That's no more? Okay. He'll lose but it's one game. This has like 80% chance of happening. Like if he
is to play it it will be a one and done but I still say cap. If he plays at any wins and we're
gonna see it all year round. No way. Amar and Nigma this is not right. It doesn't make sense no.
Either way Nigma's banned and we do see two position fours that we see a lot of this season.
We have to drink on one side and we'll only ever
Just good heroes right from what we've seen also and especially with some of the other bands that coming through
It's now opening up some of the supports again and Aurora. They don't want to play against the melody on
His witch doctor because he's been kind of owning it's been quite good
It also means that maybe like they want to sway away from the like and obviously it worked out for them great earlier on
But in the second game just now even though you had that into the witch doctor
Didn't really work and this band it opens up a lot of other offlaners for you
But we're still can go for like an 18 right because then you have the how with the acorn short like it's quite a annoying
Laning setup, but it will see later down the line
Of course with this type of draft we see the double support the reason why we always talk about how valuable hoodwink Marana willow
These supports are it's because they don't they don't show you anything
It is good like the reason why the series has been so one-sided you first pick a timber you died to us
You first pick a laundry you died to ask on like it's it is scary first picking cause
It's why when you find these stable supports that you always want them in your lineup and as much as we're gonna always have to talk
About them in every single draft. They have a very good place
With that I might do they still need to consider the timber saw here because it's still in the pool
If Janix wants to they can literally ban earths that pick timber they could but I think maybe also looks like the witch doctor
Band they could make it a little easier to just pick your off-laner on
1415 obviously in the last game that the luxury you first pick skitters hero your
14-15 will be your double sub so maybe you can allow skitter or stojkuvic to
you know have the 18 pick and the 23 pick and then just be like okay ws pick
yourself a good offlaner you're gonna have hoodwing in your lane it will be a
strong lane but you have to do a blind
a lot of thought going into this one as a bonus time will be used for yandex for
their one band they have in this phase usually used to protect whichever hero is
Coming next for them. Yeah. Well, actually also what's in the pool is the ember, you know
You could do the slark into the ember pick potentially
Mm-hmm in support
That's still the dazzle as techies the ember that you just mentioned
The of course the timber that we spoke to in decent level. There's so many
interesting options for Yandex to go down that
They'll eventually pick their poison actually banned at the time
There's some mind games here that are that word is not privy to a few
But here's the thing though, it's like you show the herbs, I still think Planks is a hero that can show up in this final game that is really really impactful.
Again, Skidder hasn't played it as much recently, but it's still an option to showcase.
And they still don't want to show too much in the draft, they go for the Wyvern, into very very powerful supports.
How can you prevent, if you're Yannix, how can you prevent the 18th pick on Aurora being Ember?
five seconds remaining. I guess I mean you can pre-pick it somewhat with like your own
mid but then at the same time because there will be a slug. No I'm not saying that you
pick the ember yourself but like that you pick good heroes that like the 18 ember isn't as good
on its own but even then sometimes you get in your own head you like overdo that and then it's like
well we don't need to pick ember you've opened yourself up to something else.
I was about to say to you, you nearly got 10 seconds, and I was like, oooh, he's gonna be in here!
And you Oona reversed it and went, well actually, I'm sorry, I'm telling you, he got him.
They went Lina.
Okay, I mean, Stoikov of course, I thought it was very good against it. It's really good against these two subs.
Like Shadow Realm, who cares, Cold Embrace, who cares, you just die through it.
Supports, care. Do you not care for the supports?
If they die? Not if I'm Lina, I don't like you to die.
I'm speaking from his perspective, of course.
No, I understand.
Well, because there was something else like when you play against Yandex and you see Winter Wyvern
You need to be somewhat aware of a Watson-Kens that hero is very good and that combo is very strong
Is that a Khaori lion or a Kaur play hoodwink? He can play hoodwink so it can be either or I think really
Unusual he governor's pointing at I.O. But he doesn't want to say balls
I think yeah with the balls in game 2 and then we got the finger in game 3. Ah, yeah, okay. I
Didn't take it to the next level. No, that's fine. I'm just
You just didn't look at my iPad
And so what can you do here? There's obviously you could if you have really high game
And you believe in you know that you can just play ember here
You can do that obviously you will get your you know your butt handed to you by the leaner that just how it goes
But it's still one of the best heroes you can go for
There's the Kez.
Likely Aurora should have known that it is coming, and also of course WS still has the pick into it.
The Kez, I think Axe is going to look quite nice for WS to close the phase with.
You give that instant jump into Kez, you also have good laning.
You set up for this pick-off because Aurora, all of their heroes, they love information and pick-off potential.
The Kez is a good thing for Kez as you go Mage Flare, which eats up most of the damage of Aurora at the moment that is presented.
and then the Deso, all that is to follow,
you will kill these heroes very, very quickly.
So I think the Kens pick is very cool.
It's just a matter of, is there the axe pick,
is there this off lane that can shut down the Kens?
So then the question is how good,
okay, so that is gonna go with Invoker,
which is also great.
Another one of Jiro Junius, maybe even his best hero.
So you've got a bit of,
he's gonna play more on the farming side, of course.
You know, that's how Invoker works.
Rue master, hero that has looked very good.
And I think also, laying against Kes, you're totally fine.
It's obviously you will not win this lane, but you'll be okay against it.
You can play fast in this type of game. It's nice.
I actually prefer it to the axe because...
So I kind of forgot in the moment what type of information that you need.
And if you go axe, everyone's waiting for someone else to jump.
But through masters that you walk into the fight by yourself.
There's no big lockdown to stop the split.
When you split, then you have three pandas, one strakes and one guy.
You're getting this information. Yandex have zero frontline right now.
It's like, Ken's with Magslayer, BKB Decibel will become the front line, but until then it's a lot of, like,
kiting back and forth heroes that Brew will just cut through, and then of course Lai and Lina would wink,
but we won't mention their explosives. So I think, you know, for Amar, he has to find that hero to help tie down the draft.
Is it through crushing the lane with a last pick, or just being a front line blob that can just soak the initiation
force of Brew's split, make Lina line waste their spells?
Yeah, he's definitely going to wait to see his info, because if we know Skeeter,
You know, there's always three heroes that come to mind when you see him. Sven, Alchemist, Tiny, usually the ones that come to mind, he plays the Strength Initiator, a good laner, the melee carry with Coyote in the lane.
So I would, again, be looking at two of those to be banned and likely the third to be picked.
And then it's Onamar, if they understand and he has like, okay, if they pick this, I'm picking that hero. If they pick this or I'm picking this and you kind of navigate between which one you leave in the pool.
If they are supposed to be bad, I kind of like the idea of the nature's profit actually compared to it
Because then you can just keep throwing in bodies into the fight. Take the invoker's tower
Don't let him sit there with some like whatever build the cares as well
Like what he's trying to farm made so like take his time making fun nature in the jungle, which feels awful
I really would like to see yes get a join the team in those fights
You can definitely look to
I think it makes sense with your draft. I think it does not make sense with their bands. So maybe then
They're bands, but the thing is that bands scream you should ban tiny fan against me
Right, that's what those two bands read at least for me. Yeah, but I think they will do that anyway
What if it's a gotcha?
As in something else we're not thinking about yeah as in like oh we make you believe that we're gonna go for one of those
But I know fake ban and switch. Yeah
It doesn't really happen. That's all good one more band then coming in for yandex. I see if it's that tiny
I mean I still like I mean a cool clean very early on I still would love to see that hero potentially for Laura
If you battle elk, so tiny is let through the pool. Yeah
And they have a lot of time
So also this is where you can like put in your knowledge to and obviously out of all the players in this lobby
These two know each other the most they likely know this guy's thinking about this, but if he does this I'll do that
Yeah, but defaults like I'd be happy if I saw the tiny. Yeah, I don't know what a mob would play to
destroy the tiny it's like Necro's already banned earlier on Tim has gone Viper's gone
I do think it's very poetic that the overall first picks of game one of this series were these two
and the overall last pick of the series is days two again it's beautiful and the time is still
actually a plenty for Aurora a full minute left in reserve time to really think this one out let's
Let's see if they need it.
Yeah, I also don't remember how much reserve time Yandex.
I thought, obviously, they can also use this time to talk about them.
They only have 21 seconds.
I just want to get a surprise.
You know, I don't want to see the tiny animation.
Anti-mage.
No, I'm just capping.
I want to be like, oh, I'm scared.
You know, I want that kind of reaction of, OK.
But oh, he's laughing.
That's just like, oh, give me tiny.
Oh, I see that.
So am I.
Wait, the Nygma's band, right?
Otherwise you'll call up the first game of the year.
Put it here now, but he will never do that.
I don't know what that's Amar wants.
What lanes well into the lives here?
It was Slardar.
Yeah, Slardar is good.
Slardar with Kha'z is quite a nice combo.
You lane fine.
Amar is a crazy guy.
He could think about Ursa,
which I think is worse than the Slardar you mentioned.
Yo.
Yo.
Yo, you beat me on Ursa, but now I am the Ursa.
Come on Amar. Oh, he runs back some Legion commander, which
True Amar
Some of the sensible it means that you can take objectives be it through
commenter and Roshan you
Enable that jump that I think is so you know critical against Nina don't allow her to sit in the back line and go
Oh, I got this spell damage gonna be like just find her and kill her and yeah
Okay, I think this I'm just happy that these two drafts aren't as
Oh, it's Oscar. Oh
Yeah, you know like even this game one is like oh that's a different like these are two drafts that now feel like it's everything's
turned down this hostility of skitter in the mall have to like
like, swath to each other is like, it's squashed a little bit. Even though I might have a slightly
better matchup in lane, the game is still very open.
Yeah, and a couple of first timers coming out for Yandex is the first slaughter of all
Valachia season 9. And I know Shira Junior has Invoker as his signature hero, and we've
seen him on it a lot, but we have not yet seen him on it this Valachia. So it's been
banned out against him most of the time. So we'll see if there's any kind of rust on that
that Stoikov can abuse.
Where is all the action gonna come from
in the early stage of this game?
Because both of the games we've watched so far,
laning stage was everything.
I think both the side lanes
and early supports movement is gonna be very big,
but out of all these drafts,
this is gonna come down to gameplay.
No way at minute 12, we're gonna have a one-sided match.
I don't believe it.
There's gonna be a good one.
39 minutes or higher, lots of kills even,
and it comes down to how can you initiate,
can you infest, find it out.
Otherwise, you know, the cares a lack we were slaughter easy again for the next which support twin gates first
That's the main thing where we go spot or top whenever they go when they will be
The man at the twin gate first just wins the game
But no supports rotations like as you mentioned in the laning phase can just break it, but they have to be successful in those rotations
No, they can run down mid and feed
She can't just say like oh this person who makes one move
the game. We're going to see
a lot of spells used as we're
heading into game three of
this series with OD pixel and
fogged. They came through time
here between Aurora and Yandex
and very fun to see the drafts
using regen. Overall though, historically, it's been a pretty good hero versus Lycee
who I have to tell you for a second, but Boston might just be dead.
I'm in trouble. He's going to try and jump away with the Echo Slash. One more hit. They
got him.
Second blood grenade that they do end up throwing for that kill there.
They might. Are they going to have Stunned again? Yeah, Stunned is back up in a couple
of seconds.
He's going toward the tower.
And they've got push by there. They're going to have a Stunned from there up. And they
get both of them.
He's got Ferry.
Oh, dive the tower.
Do not dive the tower.
the tower. I mean it's 10, it's never tempting to dive a tier 2. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Decent damage. We did see Wattson not use the fairy fires there. What was the exchange of
bounties? I think there's one left. There's one left. So it's two for one and there's one on the
bottom side that someone will eventually maybe walk toward. So I call it versus the mid matchup
to the invoker. Curious to see how this matchup's going to go because we've seen some of these
Lina's be able to bully the invokers, but Chira, one of the better ones. And ooh, nice little
will de-aggro off his range creep there to get the deny.
Yeah, looking forward to see how that matchup's gonna go.
The Slaughter of his life stealer,
because historically it's hard for a life stealer
to play this lane.
Mosquita, what about a life stealer?
Well, so far I'm getting around the tree line,
but that was pretty close.
Yeah, historically the lane can be pretty problematic
if the Slaughter has a good or...
Oh, there's some stuff!
Tira, Jr.
Oh, that was sick.
Anyway, is this TP on cooldown?
It is 45 seconds.
That's a lot of seconds.
Oh, well that's a lot of seconds.
Do you buy a smoke?
Does someone buy you a smoke and drop it
so you can run back?
You sell gold?
Oh no.
Gotta go through the water.
Well, it's gonna be a real rough start for Skeeter.
That was an insane soundtrack from Chira, my God.
Oh, that's actually, I've never done that before.
What, go through the water?
Yeah.
Are you kidding me?
I just walked down the lane if I feed about, yeah.
Wow.
Look at that, we learn something every day.
This is you learns at it's like eight seconds faster. I want to say maybe
I'm like, I've never done. Oh my god. Thank goodness. I'm not killing with you anymore. I'm gonna get shot by Gemma Ma now
It's walking the water. All right, so rain stuff here from Skeeter
Let's see how he does look to fix the lane because as I was saying before it's already a hard lane for inverse of the
Slaughter and the willow not even factoring in the Sunstreaks, of course there
Which we will see cheer junior
How good of a match if it's gonna be?
Lena will have an edge, but overall, Chirra might be able to get these Sunstray kills on these sidelines as we do see.
At top, Kaz Watson, one of the best. Looking at the game for the Kaz overall, it does look quite good.
Yes, Lyon, double stuns are quite good versus you, but Lyon is a risky hero.
I've seen this hero really struggle in a lot of games.
Yeah, it's quite easy to feed on Lyon.
Yeah.
There's like similar territory to kind of like the Charmin, right? We saw Saxo playing game one.
Yeah.
I'm not a hero right now, it's uh, you're either jumping in fighting the setup and you have the follow-up to kill whoever you've jumped in on
Or you're just scrambling around the team fights getting overwhelmed. Yeah, and when you do look at it, right?
There's gonna be some pretty insane damage that's gonna come out from the index quite early right there corrosive pays a lack
Everybody's gonna be dating quite hard here early on
WS though the brew really big fan of this hero right now even though he did see it falter earlier in the series
He is going to be going down that orchid route this game since I use a very good orca game versus literally everybody
And they they the things they do have good ways to kill the broolies
Can't start our pretty decent at it Malady is taking quite a bit of a beating, but he's got pulled to brace another Sunstrike
Doesn't hit but tell you what what's the most still have this anyway
That thought is it enough it is there we got tactical miss there from my cheer
I didn't want to steal a kill from his carrot that would it look like it looked
again right now the answer to their tail there's very close yeah you just you
start golf is winning the lane of course but cheer up is being able to have
the plane under his tower in bottom get up watching for the Sun strike again
he's gonna get around the brown bulls how long until the Sun strikes back it's
up oh it is a it's up right it's gonna get in their heads as well to every time
they do step up I mean Skeeter is scared okay you're also very low they have no
regen down here and it's a very as you said oppressive lane that Yandex has
gone for between the starter willow if they get caught a bramble to stop I
just said absolutely the Sunstrap will do it glory this could be very game ready
with the brambles he's looking for it for Skeeter in particular the angle he
has to take. He's dead. Oh god. And a casual attack comes in for an attempt for Kaori I
guess there, but he's struggling down a skinner. The good news is this time he's got a TP
to get straight back to the line. He does and he does have a kind of semi carry from
the mid lane but oh and this is not a position you want to be in as a lifesteer versus Kazmacho.
When you're playing versus natural counters are ready. You're good versus invoker but
You're not that great versus everybody else in the game as this life stealer
Chara is handling his own in the mid lane pretty okay. He's only about a hundred and sixty gold behind her
So you do see 11 last minutes, but the goal is what it's still probably gonna get kills out
So if you just get a kill by foot I mean that was I don't know what that was a
Bit of a shaky move there from abroad trying to push forward for killing the wife
And they just I mean they were both low HP. I guess they they felt
Excited that there was not a Sunstrike available. So like we can go but they really could not Watson just he's like
What are you guys doing? That's easy kills for me definitely not able to make these type of mistakes in the lanes and they have this life
So already so shut down. They're having to break the lanes in particular looking for Chira
I'm sorry time to move man. I saw it and a very nice follow-up from Mira
Not enough to kill Chira though and Kory himself
Now he was very ready for that. He managed to slow them down a little bit in that play.
As soon as he saw Cori's, I immediately called him down.
Instantly.
Power rune. They are trying to secure that because that way his lanes on the sides have gone top.
WS will be able to get himself away.
Taking the rune at the least, but Chira will drag the pressure off of the mid wave.
Now it's a 1v1 of a Slardar versus the Lifestealer.
It's a Slardar with transit ready at this point and a neutral item.
So, Mar, 380 movement speed to the 360 plus the extra stats.
Very difficult.
I guess the angle there, WS, might be going down again.
I'm thinking might just have it.
The Sun Strike's gonna hit.
And they're gonna have it.
Another one.
Cheer up, Alson.
They're gonna do at least find the setup, they flank onto him and find the invoker during
the Sun Strike, but they will connect at the least.
And Stoikov, he's gonna have to be the carry, at least in the early game until the life
to start to get things together but not the easiest game to do so as Alina very
vulnerable versus at a slaughter who's having this type of a start a mart is
six might just be able to chase heater all right we'll hesitate against it
versus the open wounds but corrosive haze already versus a level four
lifestealer heavy moves to ensure they can get their wisdom they will be able
to protect that but what an early game here the two side lanes kind of been
smashed from the side of Yandex again and now wait why it did that solo there's a
full combo deafening blast coordinate tornado meteor everything bring it up
on the stats look at that quad spell combo coming in from cheer junior to set
it up for himself on to the lina look at the shot towards himself corn embrace is
That's gonna put a stop to play from the three of them
I'm gonna be able to get Watson like that
They've kind of won all three lanes now at this point and the mid lane a bit of a trade of course
But Chira now that he gets that solo kill pretty much has done everything he needs to now
Tower is gonna be kept alive level seven for him a man at Skeeter
Just at threat versus even the supports because of that Sunstrike that can come in
WS again
I mean what's getting so much out of this lane he's getting kill off to kill off to kill this Kaz
We said it was gonna be closer based off of the drafts and all things here because of the lack of semi counter picks by Yandex
Now they're showing off their skill
And the series obviously there's been a lot more going on outside of it
But whoever's got the count to pick who out of the a mask you the kind of
situation has always ended up on top, haven't I? He's looking like it. Level 7 now for him. Skeeter level 5.
You do not want to get pushed to jungle this early as lifestealer ever.
And Sox just continues to toy with them as well too. The stun will connect when Amar is close enough. Skeeter.
At the rage.
It'd be fine.
He can't even farm a small- he's trying to farm a medium camp.
Sox is not letting him.
Now I have to back all the way to the farm camps.
Can't even make it toward his lane and Kayor is getting zoned as well.
They're just getting zoned everywhere.
Stoykov, let's see where he wants to make the moves to bring things together.
The issue is he doesn't have stun, right?
He has good burst damage, but a marb very speedy.
He's just gonna drag the wave and walk away.
devastating start to the game.
Swing him back over towards the mid.
And Mira and Stokov set something up here.
He's got double forward spirits now. It's much harder for him.
Yeah, they're already scouting for what's going on beyond the tower.
So, nice little bit of micro there from Chirrut.
Just to ensure that they can't get an angle on him.
Every time Skeeter walks up for a last hit, he gets pressured.
All right
They got him
Start that Amar is having its devastating he can make moves all over the place infer
Or rather they do a split and what's this gonna be here ready to do some good damage to the split?
They will hold him back from now throwing him up in the air
And so the company's brilliant pretty quickly
Not enough to kill WS those and WS gets away with aggressive play. It's a kill gets out
Stokov also lingering in the area and maybe surprise Watson
Would be a pretty decent one, but he also does not have a point in stun so they can't really chain control him
Lions keeping over WS trying to bait Watson
Laguna
Time for a coming in on WS. Stun stand out and get the kill. I needed that taking Watson down Stokov
That makes the last touch on it. Big plays from WS. Bottom nine more action for him off
Kuro is taking out once again gonna be a very early blink from this Slardar
He's top net worth at this point so good plays from WS to bring things back together
But the problem is still continued and skater has nowhere to go. He has to hit jungle creeps. He's got the Midas queued up on
That's one of those games one of those starts. Yeah, I feel he desperate
And the Kessler's life stealer matchup pretty good for the Kessler especially if he's this far ahead
and that's a build up with the corrosive
it's going to be able to a decision
to retarget it is not another song strike
I think it might have been what's our
percentage how many does he have
let's you have to wait a second the
skaters getting chased
he's going first if he could find
something to impress we'll be on a rage
over back to his creeps and get away
he's getting no space though he walks up
and hits us a couple creeps and immediately
gets forced away
that was a little curse into song strike
okay nicely done
and on the meanwhile to strike off his
He's trying to fix the problems that are everywhere.
Cheryl just hit the mid-tower.
He's lost his mid-tower 11 minutes in because of the pressure in this Invoker.
And usually it would be the Lena that you'd want to see taking the Invoker's Tower
and progressing into something else, but the fact that he's had to put out fires everywhere.
Trying what he can here on Stoikov.
Butcher travel are done.
So for him and WS, they've got to do a lot to make space.
Bruce split with the butcher travels to match the movements, but they're also very vulnerable. The slaughter is so dangerous
Yes, he's just got the split back up
He doesn't need to use it though to speedy cobalt cup plus the movement speed
Sunstroke or nearly reads the movement
Not enough damage. I don't think at this point. It would have been close right now. That's not 480
at this point. Max, I mean, 425 or something like that right now, maybe even less, pretty
sure. Skeeter, some space. You've got to hit like seven creeps now, no bottom. Three level
disparity between him and Marlo. Yeah, quite the farm difference. Sort of a very similar
situation to the outcome of the lane of game one, really, because the other way around this
time with the Mar, nearly doubling that of Skeeter's. In the overall, right, the lifestealer
matchup shirt versus invoker has its benefits but versus honestly versus
everybody else it's not the easiest to play for behind there's the embrace
you're not killing someone that's the shadow around and someone there's guys
can just hit you so I can just hit you stands the ground about those in DPS
unless you're sort of on my head yeah there's a lot there's a lot that he's
gonna have to grow through both re-endex can just do natural things Watson
He's got his mid-slayer done, can go for the Def-Sow and another.
Having a bit of a tough time any time he shows anywhere near the slaughter.
Just super oppressive plays, Chira.
Every single time connects with the Sunstrikes, and he's just getting the farm going too.
He is pretty much even as a Lena,
which I think you're super happy in most games if you are able to be at that point as a invoker.
Gonna try and see if they can catch Watson by surprise again,
but Watson's already leaving the lane for now.
Senses that this sort of play is likely to be coming in and it's a big one. They're bringing four heroes top
He's got the mage player finished too. So he if he gets a touch on to them
He might end up surviving versus the damage. He sees them
Box the ults marks them
They start running them down
Who did the Primal Split off WS, but the supports are already dead.
Asexa finds the double there with that follow up.
And the Primal Split's gonna run.
He has to try and get all three of them out of their WS.
They'll kill off two of them. Can they get their hands on the third?
Tornav is set up that time and could have been any better there.
Watch it, Junior. They'll get the three of them.
Even with Primal Split, they can't get a kill ended now.
He's found Stokov.
Well, don't do that, Stokov.
and allow Watson to get another kill here as the catch.
They're looking at a difference here again now.
You know, we were mentioning for Yandex,
coming into most of the games that they just looked so superior,
it's starting to look like that again.
Game one, a bit of a distant memory now.
Yeah, Midas.
What we've seen from Yandex in game two and game three.
Midas is done, but even with their brew split,
you lose the fight massively to Cursed plus Willow combo.
Yandex, looking as good as ever.
With their key heroes too, the Invoker, the Kaz, two of their most popular NMR, sure he
hasn't busted this one out in some time, but this is one of his most popular ones as well.
He's been great, yeah, across the lane, and the impact that he's already having, it's
pretty insane.
306.
Yeah, he's got Blink, he's got Shard, these heroes are so fragile now at this point, especially
the supports.
They're trying to set up for Ma, coming back to the left.
Touching out from the opening stuns.
Finger burst.
Coldy plays.
They're going to be able to keep him alive,
and now they've got to run.
The Cursed Crown stun, hitting onto the two of them,
sets up to take out Ferris, Geithas,
finished off by the crush.
Oh, there it is.
And Amar, he lifts.
It was getting out of hand already at this point.
They're just ready for every move.
It's a fact that Amar is this big,
there in time to just bring him all the heals and save the trunks sort of out do
their own record of game two stop which they managed to get the GZ of 25 minutes
see if they can do it even quicker this time strong sun strikes for fun at this
point is outrageous how much pressure they're able to apply here and the
supports have to point out the difference the willow and the wiver in
this game doing leaps and bound differences and parents of the lion in
the hoodwink they can't get the connections and even if they do well
Oh, he's just kind of raked it.
Come on.
Got the curse!
To make sure that the Shard Shooter does not
connect onto a mark.
Yeah, they're styling.
Continuing to style, BKB's queued up.
He just finished the Shard two minutes ago.
Name of the game is to slow things down for the side of Aurora, but
they're drafting them behind it.
So, there's the Amira.
WS is going to try and show it, but he's going to take him easier on how it's in the face.
And an ice wall, and he's just dead.
And he's not going to get the split off when he gets jumped like that by a mark.
The mark is everywhere.
They want to slow the pace of the game down, but I mean, looking at things, their lineup does not scale,
versus this lineup. They actually get outscaled pretty hard from the side of the index as well, all things considered.
And Skeeter, TP's back to base, Stoic's off to Stound, it's a beat down.
Skeeter just got here.
Yeah, he just raised TP'd into this.
That's where he wants to run.
Vera.
Deso stacked Stunt to get acquired, that's so fragile.
Maybe they can kill him there.
In the base.
Oh my.
Well this looks like quite an outclass right now.
Well they had one game.
They did.
I mean I guess that's the question.
Obviously now that we're seeing Yandex do this twice against Aurora.
What was so different in game one?
you say that just sort of meant the yandex that we've seen pretty much every other game
that they fooled apart that heavily skater got to have the best counter pick in my opinion that's
what it looked like right he has the airsovers of the timbersommer didn't get to play the game
whatsoever this one it's complete flip side in both of the games they're calling it they're done
i don't blame them it was absolutely over i think that might be the quickest game we've had here
18 minutes GG called the undead. They may have been stomped Game 1, but then they stomped Aurora harder in Game 2, and then they stomped them even harder again in Game 3. They got the revenge vote.
Oh, Marcus, the last laugh for sure here. What a draft. What a funny... Amazing draft, amazing gameplay. Chirra landing like every single sun trip, but the oppressive aggression that they could not handle in Aurora.
I really, really could not undone that game where Skeeter ends with less than a thousand
hero damage.
You said it, well, Marguer's to have the last laugh, he'll be enjoying that stuff.
A rough one there for Aurora, Yandex, by the end of the series, back to showing us why
they are by far the strongest team of the tournament, Yandex taking this two to one.
Kazoo, I demand an explanation.
Okay, this game is gonna be 39 minutes back and forth super high super confederate competitive
What's this? I don't know why this is
You know the answer don't get some quick quick beat not the answer is I learned my lesson
Uh-huh, you'll never say anything like this in a premium anymore. That is true
There's no point these the series is so one-sided, but my guy cheer a junior on the mid lane
He just like looks a skitter gets his little 420 no scope spin back book skill shot get the montage video on YouTube
Kills him sends him to the base and then I was like, oh, thanks for two minutes
And then tomorrow runs around the map and both kills everything Ken's vibe. It's like yeah
I mean Yandex just styling on this game. Whoo. Yeah
Win every lane do all the correct moves and you just have three games like this is a bit of a weird thing because
Like maybe it's just so high skill that when you get like this little edge in one of the games or slightly better like hero matchup
You can just kind of run for it
You know from full to zero and a lot of the things I think that Yandex did well is a lot of the clips where you see Aurora attack them
It's very deep like here. It's next to the pure one tower
The up 7k goes to be like dating them in a lot and what Yandex did like earlier that we already saw in the high
Second is 13 to 15 how they're moving around the map. They're attacking
Cairns in the top lane, but they're already smoking there dodging every spell that is some high skill stuff
But at least normally in these type of games like you have a moment where like the leaner will get a kill on a slaughter or the
Brumos, he did get a kill. Yeah, he did get a kill
But I want like two kills or three kills, you know what I mean?
But like like normally in the multiple skirmishes you get something out of it and that buys you valuable minutes
Like we end in the game with a 0-4-0 lifestealer skid it did
7703 damage in this game.
I have not seen a core player have sub 1,000 damage, it's an 18 minute game, but sub 1,000
damage is wild.
Especially after 1v9 in game 1.
We see all sides there.
This was the fastest game of the season 9.
I don't think many people will be too surprised to learn that.
Then we are going to choose an MVP for the game, even though it was a team effort,
but Saxa on his willow, still, by the way, undefeated on his willow.
This will occur to be fair.
There's a lot of heroes that this team is undefeated in because they only lost
two games in total in the whole run thus far.
They also secured themselves top three, which in terms of results,
I don't think anybody was surprised about that either.
Have you also, sorry, just a random start again.
Sure.
Have you also seen Yandex or a carry win a game with zero building damage?
Win?
Wait, he didn't?
Wait, Kev didn't hit a single tower?
Kev has zero hero damage.
Hero?
That's right.
Building, building, building, building, building, building.
Sorry.
I meant building.
I meant building.
Did I say building?
I said building.
I just said building.
Thank God.
Oh my God.
Yes.
I meant building.
Of course you did hero damage.
I meant building damage.
there was there yeah like you still don't like I don't know that see that's
hilarious I was about to eat your hand but yeah that was kind of but you did save
it I'm sorry that's your go-to when you panic
yikes let me eat your hand no but this is a really weird death I the one thing I
want to credit Aurora for is that they shouldn't have the shortest game of the
tournament that was Navi they could have Gigi'd way earlier there was also 1w
they should have the shortest game they did it on purpose they knew they'd lost
But they were like, we don't want to be that.
But Aurora, they have respect.
They were like, this game is done.
Amar, you can have it.
It's OK.
Exactly.
That's a good thing.
Respect.
I also think that the game one we saw
should give Aurora confidence, because we
know they can play that way.
They just have to tighten a couple of things up.
We said at the very start of the series, a couple of mistakes,
or even one mistake, Sanyan next, they'll run away with it.
And actually, someone who did run away with this series
is Saxa, and he's standing by right now with no man.
Thank you very much, Shiba. Got to warm up the arm for this one.
All right, Saksa. I mean, hell of a game. What's going on with you guys?
You guys are the only team here who are being able to, like,
really convincingly just take all the teams out of the game.
Yeah, I don't know. Some games are just crazy.
Just win in, like, 15 minutes, or we get dumpstered in 15 minutes,
like, the game one, so it's interesting, I guess.
Interesting is one way of putting it.
I mean, one of the major parts of this game
and why you're able to do so well
was due to the sun strike down at bottom, taking Skid a route.
He had no TP. What were the comms like at that moment?
I don't know. I think Amar just said he's like half HP. He's going to base.
Maybe he's going to TP. We can, you know, we can fuck him and we can just focus.
And yeah, I don't know. Chira just had like a last moment,
the soundtrack that's kind of ruined this game completely.
So pretty calm from our side.
Did it feel like it was over, like everything was over from that point,
or was there still work to do?
I wouldn't say it was clean. Maybe for the live, it was over,
but there was still a lot of other play.
I thought the hoodwink was going to 2v1 us.
because he could have won this lane by himself when he got level 3, so I think we were in a comfortable place, let's say.
Well, you also had that game number 2, which looked awesome for you guys as well.
Pulling out the IO mid, which is interesting, because it's not a hero you guys have played with a lot in the past on Turo Junior,
so what was the decision there? Is that something you've been practicing?
We practiced it a lot for TI, I don't remember if you played it much, and it was kind of a
TI hero, so this was kind of like leftover practice from before that we hadn't really
played it much recently, so it just kind of felt like a good moment to pick it, and we
feel confident in it, yeah.
Well lots of sunshine and rainbows, but of course game number one, not so, sunshine and rainbows.
What do you feel went wrong, and what was the team conversation after that game?
I had to pick the bountier Bennett. I think the only game was just the disaster. I think we got a draft at heart and the lanes went worse even and it's just impossible to play into like Lycan and bounty shit and it's like they're just scouting us all over the map and for me, we're playing rastas like you just get killed every time you show your face and it was just a very hard game.
Yeah, really hard to play from behind on that hero, for sure.
Well, obviously, the big change for Yandex has been that you've switched out DM for Amar.
So, just in terms of laning, what's the difference between these two players,
you know, what they play and how they communicate?
I mean, there's a big difference, I guess. Amar is probably the best off-lane laner,
I think, in the game. He knows what he wants to do in the game.
He's the best at the little things, like, you know, when to pull, like,
aggro, like, the last hit, the nice, he's really good at that.
and I think his hero pool is also pretty big, so we can do some cheese shoot, like you know,
like yesterday you put me on North Spirit and we pick Viper and yeah, I think there's just a lot
of abuse we can do and I think from Com's side, from his side is like very confident in what he
does, so it makes my game easy. Alright, that's what you want and now of course there is one more
team between you and those grand finals and it is LGD and one more Falcons player as well,
so how are you feeling about that one and what's your prediction? I mean of course you want to
I'm gonna take down snaking for Amar, you know, we've been skittered today and now snaking is next on the list, so we will see, 2-0.
2-0, alright, I like it. Thank you very much, congratulations once again in this game, Saxe, and we'll send it back to the panel.
Now that's exactly what Amar wanted, we heard from him at the very start of the event, he wants to be the one to take down his former teammates,
and he's got his chance now with Skeeter, and he did have some fun there, of course, he had that Game 1 where he did get first blooded by Skeeter,
by Skeeter so you know it was a little even in the results of course they don't
lie but on tomorrow on the upper bracket finals so we got snaking waiting for
Amar in that game and another person that will lane against him as well that
will be our upper bracket finals so we got LGD versus Yandex but I also want
to take a closer look at the lower bracket because today we sent another
two teams home and we're going to do the same again tomorrow. Yeah I think the
one thing for me you know Navi they powered up a little bit and I want to
see them go through a lower bracket but with what I've seen from Aurora today I
think my boys Navi are going to be the underdog in this one. At least Aurora can take a deep
breath and it's not going to be so volatile in lanes. You know if you lose your lane against
Navi the game's not over so they can like go ah but no it is just very very scary
And I appreciate the fact that bottom side of the bracket,
like, double Eastern Europe against each other,
then you have, like, China versus North America.
Like, the state of these teams in the matchups
are still, like, the different regions still battling it out.
And it's not just, like, you know,
seven Eastern European teams left in it.
Like, we do have some regional shift, which is really nice.
Yeah, we have the two lower bracket games
that we mentioned tomorrow,
the first two series of the day.
And then the winners of those two series
will be taking the slots of those TBD boxes
that you see at the bottom, they'll play again to the side, which one of those two teams
will become top three and will play again on the final day of a PGL Olaqian Season 9
and upper bracket finals, LGD versus Yandex. I want to ask this because we've seen LGD
grow, are they able to do it?
It's going to be a 2-1. I don't know for who, Manly said it's going to be easy 2-0, it was
2-1. That's all I'm going to say. 2-1.
That's such a safe answer. I think Yandex is going to slap LGD to the
lower bracket. I think it's going to be the quickest 2-0 that we've ever known.
Now, I think it's going to be a close series. That would have been a hot take.
It would have been a hot take. No, I think Yandex realistically will win the series.
I actually think it'll be a 2-0, Yandex. But I feel like...
Save the clip for tomorrow.
Sure. It's saved. But I feel like no matter what in the finals, Yandex will probably
probably still be the winner.
I'm really scared for the teams because after today,
I was hoping to be inspired that,
oh my God, we got the Yandex players,
but I'm still like, eh, nothing, nothing.
I was watching this series thinking maybe they have
to play Yandex in the lower bracket.
Yeah, they're like, oh no, no, no, no, no.
Yeah, they're happy now, yeah.
Yeah, they're happy overall today.
It was, I think, especially this series,
maybe it didn't play out the way we thought,
but it also, I mean, game three was,
it was a little bit of a little bit of a fortune.
Are there any final thoughts on today, Kazoo?
Final thoughts on just that. It's every second game is way too random
I hope that tomorrow it will be more like an even battle not like I kill you here
You don't have TP and two minutes free farm. No, no even Steven. That's what I want
You know my brother's quick Steven actually, and that's my final four. Thank you very much
Shout out to Steven and Tony Montana 666
He was watching the YouTube
That makes him a winner in my book that is for sure make sure you of course like
I'm not the only one who can do it.
I'm the only one who can do it.
I'm the only one who can do it.