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Aurora Gaming vs. Team Yandex - PGL Wallachia Season 9 - Winner Bracket R2
09-26-2026 · 10h 29m
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The gold and silver were in the gold and silver
The gold was in the silver
The gold was in the silver
I'm not sure if I'm going to miss her.
I don't know if I'm going to miss her.
I'm going to think about her.
Mayu pitta khyo ko pire Mayu naisat ka tozre
Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na
Mayu naisat ka tozre
Mayu naisat ka tozre
Oh
Papa, don't cry.
Let's go to bed.
Let's go to bed.
Go to bed.
Go to bed.
Let's grow up.
He's going to die here, doesn't have shard, not multiple for the Gregory, that's right.
Malfeade, yeah, all mercy to Terran.
Push back the lifestealer, he's going to get bashed a lot.
Able to survive a little bit longer with the agonist center, it's a Jackie boy, he's
got a lot of HP back, and Jack is going to continue trying to right to the way, very
why are standing on the other side of the river though? And it's fine.
Jokun's gonna die in the middle of a jacket.
Does that mean all of the running out resources on the line will pop it?
Getting tied in out, getting heat up, the Wishdoctor, getting them caught,
they may instantly cancel thanks to that status resist.
But Jack, you can hit all these battles under the flight.
Oh, Dostanichu just barely survived.
Another infection. Time on to Miku.
They kill off the bear. A huge fight for Navi.
It was a direct to the Wishdoctor, but now they get the open ones on the Norman.
And it's going to be the death of Han, eventually.
Very entertaining game number three.
And it's Moway caught off guard again.
Trying to save him is the sentar, but he just can't get quite close and finally does so.
But for the taker, and the damage, Moway will eventually get burned down inside of the ancients.
Actually, living for him.
Where's that fountain?
They do get the lifestealer, actually.
And Jack, you won.
He's alive.
It's a faction on a PMA, Arpney comes out, Niku, trying to finish the game.
Can they get it in time before?
Looks like they will. One more right click will do it. Surely!
Alright, guys, can you finish it now?
No, triple kill for Jackie.
Four buybacks for Na'Vi, alright.
Okay.
There is no fortification, so they just go in and...
...tap this thing. They've got the Deso now, on two.
This madness is kind of a weird end of the game.
The enemy jumps in with the call, got reduced with the reach,
focusing the ancient and they will get it.
I'm showing these trients at the opposing team and if they try to fight back, they're going to be a shadow wave.
This is a very, very good lane and got the damage on the doom there.
I'm going to help out mid a bit with BZM taking the brunt of that now.
That's the brief fire, so sure it can knock quite enough, it's going to pop the stick to try to stay alive and drag it hill under the tower. The brief fire as well. The victim does die!
Always a lot of seeing glimpse by this, but stuff like that.
He's in the air and now speed is here as well, so another great use of the heal, BZM.
Fastmaster, tier two now, so extra armor to work with Thunder Clapton.
Wow.
That is a level four.
And now they're tripping it.
And he clips back.
Why not deploy your team?
Just feels better this way somehow.
Like a pinata, you get the poppin at the end.
Well, are you sure about that?
I'm not, babe.
Oh my god, this feels so awful.
Okay.
She is working out.
Working great.
My god, okay, man, such a huge win.
I think you're right.
They push pretty fast.
This is done and dusted.
I do believe 33 showing himself they can just play it safe if they want just get these buildings
The ULT's connection into the Bramble into the silence chat trying to help out 33, but he just dies
And they're gonna get another kill onto the Sven and that should do it GG is called
He is spotted, Ahmet is turning up to fight the Bokka, very aggressively posture here,
he's really trying to get a kill out of this but you will not, probably thunders up, his
team is starting to take it away and since jump 4 is trying to fight it hard, they do
bring down Snake here and return.
Heal's here. Heal should be alright.
I have to do it.
Never mind. I'm not going to get the chance.
Because the Shackler of the Doom has dropped down onto him.
Heal's dead.
LGD, they could continue to chase for even more here.
Jing-Q and XM have to run.
It's a mouse slide forward with the swashbucket.
It's going to have it onto Jing-Q.
Jing-Q in trouble. XM jumping forward.
Trying to help out. The gold streaks up.
They're still going to lose Jing-Q.
Army's going to run.
We'll see Wicks have to fight Chase down XM.
Stunt from where it's tapes at the Dragon Knight. There we go
The look down on a closing on top of him with divide the other course snake and kill him off
But Boca he's gonna die a second time in front this old
You have big team fire around the curse
What's the getting in time with him with the jump? It's a good angle
He's got the A to Swiss! Coming in clutch here for LGD!
As now they'll be able to back off.
Army, swapping position in the tomb in the tombstone.
Next you punish LGD for this whatsoever, they're looking at a ward step eye.
He smells me spawning soon.
Colt embraces there for him and as the fight is expected ready he just bleeds straight back.
He's got the BKB ready to go, he's in onto Army!
Army's taken out, now it's some out with the rolling thunder, he's looking for more.
As XM is in queue, trying to run the fusel slows there, on towards XM.
Try to kill him for it.
Put the vines in.
Yes.
Just a vacuum walk down on the two of them.
We're ready to move forward.
Focus fire on to ZLG.
That's about now.
GG's called.
LGD taking this series 2-0.
here in the med can they change the line
What?
Uh, Muller's just gonna cover for the kill.
Oh no!
No!
There we go, Muller, dig!
Watch the ults.
Marks them.
You might be ready to start chasing you.
He's got a muller out.
There's a bit of a fit with the back of his car.
The Saks are...
So they can start running them down.
Because...
Oh, that hurts.
...the lock-down of the three of them...
...sets up for the three-man fair.
They've broken the promise.
They've been up WS, but the supports are already dead.
A sexer finds the double there with that follow-up.
And the Primal Splits got run.
I know, he has to try and get all three of them out of their WS.
They'll kill up two of them, can they get their hands on the third?
Ornate set up that timing, couldn't have been any better there.
Pop, Junior, Junior, look at the three of them.
Even with Primal Splits, they can't get a kill-hand at number.
He's found Stygop.
Well, don't do life strike.
Skeeter, give me back the base Stygop has found.
It's a beatdown.
Skeeter just got here.
He just raised TP'd into this.
That's to impress the run.
Vera.
Decelstack started to get acquired.
They're so fragile.
Maybe they can kill him there.
in the base.
Greetings, Stota fans.
Welcome back to PGO Blahia Season 9.
We are getting to the tail end of the tournament,
and we're going to have a better idea about
who might be winning it after today.
Always winners.
Joining me on the panel, of course,
you've got Jenkins.
He actually was wearing less clothes
just a few moments ago.
I'll let your imagination work as I definitely can say that's true.
And of course, all Dummy try hard, the man that rocks beige until the very last day.
Love the beige.
My whole house is pretty much a beige color.
I don't know.
I've been obsessed with it.
The only guy I've ever met that actually looks unbelievably good in beige.
I'm not wearing the same thing every day.
No, it's all different.
It's like slightly different.
There's taupe.
There's camel.
Yeah.
I only know beige.
Yeah. Yeah. I hate to say that I've lived. I live in Belgrade. So this this is whatever like this is Balkan drip right here.
Yeah. But it's like it's high tier Balkan. You obviously live in Serbia. You get to say that. So yeah, you're one of us.
Right. If you were in Adidas, that's the only way you could be more Balkan right now.
Indeed. Why don't we talk about the tournament instead of our drip and what has happened so far to date?
I think this has been another incredible Valahia.
I knew it was going to be.
Post-TI Valahia is just crazy every single time.
Valahias are crazy in general.
But it's been such a hard tournament to call.
And that was continued last night.
I want to say that I think everybody
had arrived at a foregone conclusion,
that extreme we're just going to run away with things.
Yeah, and then they just stopped.
They're like, you know what, the things that we have been picking,
we're going to do the 180 and just go back to the way we've been playing,
the way we've been picking during the TI and other tournaments
when things didn't work out for them.
They got kind of ass-whooped in that one.
And then Aurora against Yandex.
I think Yandex is a team that has the most amazing drafts we've seen so far in the tournament.
They've been experimenting quite a lot, like all of their drafts.
If you let other teams play these drafts, I think they would lose in 20 minutes,
but the Andex, they win in 20 minutes.
Yeah, but I also have to say, I mean, you know,
Yandex looks super impressive just if you look at the roster,
but they have dropped games as well.
Like it's not a foregone conclusion that they're just going to, you know,
cruise through the finals by any stretch of the imagination.
So everything to play for, everything up for grabs.
And with that in mind, I believe Andrew's got something he would like to point out.
Yeah, we got a graphic about some of the average placements for the teams that are in the playoffs, based on their 2025 season.
Mustard on the beef.
Any tournament that's over 500k prize is included in here.
Some of these are not like the others.
you can see their average placement is
their current placement in this tournament is way better than their best placement and way better than their average placement.
Even Extreme, who has had their best placement is third, which is excellent.
Their average placement is 9.22.
You have Navi who, shockingly, actually a higher average placement in 2025 than Extreme.
It's just that extreme is very polarizing, you know, either they go really far in the tournament or they completely bomb out.
But Aurora and Yandex, you know, this is kind of what I think everyone is expecting in terms of their average.
They always do really well.
Yandex, however, has actually won major tournaments, yes, a couple of times.
And for Aurora, it just, it hasn't happened yet.
but this potentially was the nightfall curse.
I don't know, you never know.
Skeeters won a lot of tournaments out here.
I mean, it is true.
I'm looking really good since he joined.
I think some people maybe felt some of the other players
on the previous Falcons roster
might have been doing some heavy lifting for him,
but he's proven he's good enough
to carry games all by himself.
Yeah, not just him.
Like we see snaking in the new environment as well.
Like they did spread out and fly out of the nest
All alone like everybody on their own and they're still having quite a lot of success so far. Yeah, absolutely
Obviously, we will talk more about that a little bit later
We're gonna do a meta update, but I also do want to say just to give a shout out to everyone watching on YouTube
If you do actually like the live stream on YouTube, it actually helps PGL in the same way in the same way a normal video
does now live streams absolutely help I know a lot of you prefer the YouTube
stream so if you're on there just click that little thumbs up or whatever they're
using these days and that'd be awesome so look let's talk about the method this
is what is super interesting we came in day one had it all figured out it's just
gonna let the patch blah blah blah here we are towards the tail end of the
tournament no one's picking the heroes we thought were good on day one and there
are some hidden gems that have emerged. Yeah there are some heroes that have pretty high
win rate that we've seen quite a few times. Nick's assassin being the one of course people
are going back to the old school classic counters against the ember spirit with the
carapace invoker relatively popular as well. Good ways of setting things up in the side lane.
Same goes for the laning partner with the darks here. But the other one that I wanted to highlight
is Nagasar and we did call for this pick quite a few times on this panel saying that this year
like it could be very very good in a lot of situations and they pulled it off the yesterday it looked
Super strong they ended that game in like 20 25 minutes and something that Navi also played was this mid-magnus
I still believe that this year can be played. You know, yeah, very strong repositioning heroes
We like to see that Naga against like in Beastmaster like any of these summons heroes
I think Moon mentioned it in the interview he did yesterday where he said
basically SF blocked a lot of off-lane heroes you just couldn't pick because SF was in the pool and now a lot of these
Off-laners like the Likens like the Beast Masters get to shine which also means the Naga sirens of the world should get to shine
Yeah, well listen, I've loved watching the evolution of this tournament and how
Different heroes have emerged as being not just
Situational picks but actually strong in their own right. I think the great thing about Dota Rift
you never have it all figured out and with that in mind there are a couple of
unpicked and underrated heroes that we'd like to draw your attention to. Yeah and
we see some familiar faces as well on top of the faces that we haven't seen in a
while but oh I see what you've done there. Ah yeah I feel that some of these
heroes are pickable and like we don't have too many this is what the 625
heroes pretty much but I wanted to highlight Razor it got banned in one of
those games. You are playing against Amar, so you might start to think about this hero
could potentially be viable, but it could be very good in the mid lane against some
Ember spirits as well. It could be good against the mid Dragonites that we are seeing quite
heavily so far at Valakia. And Jenkins, you have a very interesting one as well to show.
I am very surprised that it is not contested at all. It's not even been banned once. You
You know, Leshrac, there was a lot of IO's that was being picked in the pubs prior to this tournament, as you showed in your graphic, it's maybe a hidden gem, we saw it yesterday, and Leshrac IO is insane.
What I'm seeing is I'm seeing some insane Sumail performances on the Spirits, and I'm thinking, okay, what is his non-spirit, like, I'm going to pop off and carry the game 1v5 hero, and to me that's Leshrac, right?
I feel like LGD is going to bang out Sumail Leshpik at some point in this tournament.
And if I can just point out, because you know you put me on the graphic, so I'm going to talk about it, right?
5% increase in win rate for Ogre, okay?
All of the carries that are in right now, the Melee carries, love Bloodlust.
They do, yeah. All right, not sold yet.
He doesn't have anything else. That's it, dude.
melee body so this you count me shield yeah has a shield that also makes you
super tanky cannot be bursted as well no one really uses that no one uses all
your as well yeah it's no one spent so much cold to get that crappy little
shield right but ultimately a lane winner a body high HP poor you know
Yeah, perfect. You're gonna pick which you've got to consider ogre ogre's problem is that clockwork and tusk are still good
Yes, he is in an archetype of the big fat guy that runs in for the drought
For the shadow fiend these sorts of heroes and the other ones are just good
I thought clockwork was gonna be shit, but it's still pickable. It still looks very good
Yeah, and also I'm gonna do something I never do I'm gonna interact with the audience a little bit somebody just asked
Why is ancient apparition not picked anymore?
This is always a question. Every tournament, I wanted to ignore the elephant in the room
because every tournament we talk about AA, especially seeing Amar play Huskar offline.
Where's the AA? Oh, Necropos, big hero. Where's the AA? Look off.
Too long of a cool down. Basically, this hero turns into one spell later on. He can't be abused
in the lane by a lot of the offlaners. He can't really trade against most of the position 4s
that are in meta right now. Just hero that like let's say there's a lichen in the game
Beastmaster in the game. This hero doesn't exist. It's just the food for him. Same goes
for like bounty hunter position more like you can't show on the map pretty much.
That's fair. Yeah. It's like the number one feeding here in the game. It's kind of like
Crystal Maiden but without it's done. Yeah. That's that's the problem. Okay. Like all
of my friends that barely play Dota and just want to play position five. They're playing
like Lich, CM, and AA, and I would really prefer for them to be Lich in these games.
And Ogre, obviously. We'll take a look at the schedule. This one we've got coming up for you over the course of the day.
By the way, if you ask more good questions, instead of just insulting everyone, we will maybe address them.
Especially on YouTube, if you've liked the stream.
Yes, correct. So, working our way backwards, we've got the classic TBD Derby, always big when that happens.
Yeah, those teams always show up in the playoffs, very consistent.
Very consistent, LGD versus Yandex, working our way back from that, Aurora gaming versus Na'Vi,
that's in the lower bracket, tournament life on the line, we'll talk about that one in a moment,
but starting us off, extreme gaming versus gamely, I've got to feel a little bit sorry for Speed,
because Speed said he wanted to play LGD and already played each other,
He said we didn't give a good account of ourselves and we would really like to prove that we can beat LTD.
It didn't happen because LGD batted extreme gaming last night. It's got to be said.
I mean I was back in the hotel watching that game.
Sue Mail, has he even lost lane this event?
He's unironically, he's looking like the best mid.
Yeah, like no joke.
He is on fire. The king is...
SVG lit a fire under his hood, like for real.
Yeah, we can't say that phrase.
SVG ruined it for us.
But anyway, let's start by talking a little bit
about Game of Legion because there are kind of,
we are biased.
OK, if you sense bias, we are being biased.
It's because this is the furthest
they've gotten in the tournament.
Yeah, they're looking good.
They're looking pretty much the best
that I've seen them ever since the team has been formed.
core of the team. It feels like a lot of things are clicking. They still have some of the issues
pretty similar to Navi being a bit inconsistent. Sometimes they have that 10-15 K Gold lead that
they tend to throw against more than 3. Yeah, they'll do that. But overall, I think their drafts
have been looking good, especially that draft number one where they kind of ran over 1W in 35
minutes. Second game, this could have been their game as well. It came down to them getting ratted
against nature's profit as well. And then in the third game, they kind of took over the game. I think
the shining star for me has been Fade from the off-lane. He had some like really, really good
performances, especially that Brewmaster performance that he pulled off kind of single-handedly winning
the game for them. Absolutely. He's probably not going to get Brew for the rest of the tournament,
assuming it doesn't end here and now. Yeah, it's nice to see because I just remember back in the
day playing against this guy and you know, when you're young, it's 10 years ago, you
know, you have an ego, this guy's not that good.
How does he keep beating me in lane?
Like there's something, he's picking OP heroes and patch after patch after patch.
And now I'm realizing like fate has always just been a really strong wainer.
Like his fundamentals in lane have been incredible, incredible enough to carry
him to always be a very high rank, but he was never a super competitively viable
player.
I think like his mid game struggled. I think his maybe hero picks struggled a bit
So it's really cool to me to see that his hero pool has expanded
Back in the day. He was like enigma only player piece master only player now
He could even play these like team fighting like heroes, you know dark seer brew master stuff like that
But he still has that you know crazy laning prowess
We saw him yesterday put on a clinic in the laning phase and yeah
It means you can get away with a lot more different picks if you're laning is that strong
They were always gonna end up with an advantage. Yeah, absolutely
I mean, you know we highlight that moment
He just stood in front of the life stealer like tonight three cranes. What are you gonna do about it?
I'm a mug you right now
Dude, and the thing is it is these little details that actually matter you get a slight advantage on an early creep wave
It means you have an extra
Now you bring yeah, you bring the next item on something like that and then you get some lawn chargers earlier
They go on you they try to kill you
they don't do it on them. Yeah, you bring a healing sal, you pick up the Lotus, it's
just a snow snowballing. Yeah, well, we can talk also a little bit about how
they're sort of, again, in my opinion, you're a professional, this might be wrong.
I think it's sort of bucking the the meta a little bit, because Speed is playing
lots of healing supports. Yeah, he is, and he is having quite a lot of success.
If he do consider which doctor, because he's like a half a healing hero, he's not
like the real healer. He's more about like being aggressive but also those were the good days. Yeah,
wanted to show that he's not doing that great on a witch doctor but on the other healers,
Winter Vivern probably one of his best, if not the best hero. I don't think he's going to be
getting the hands on it and of course Dazzle. Yesterday he had insane performance getting the
double kill before the horn even and then having 11 or 12 minute hold locket on the Dazzle.
clutch saves coming out from him very good positioning so coming into this series
I would say that these heroes that he has been playing so far with a lot of success
are going to be highly contested. Here's a little question for you,
Ayo because obviously we've seen in the mid I think that was this tournament. Yes.
Any chance of it making a comeback as support? It is the ultimate healing support. I think
there's a chance I think some other supports are way stronger than Ayo at the moment as a support
But I think there is a chance that you know, maybe not so much of Falakia
I think you need to have a hero specialist as well those like
9 class like I think if 9 class was here
I would be yes in in the top picks because the four position I owe where you play the lane and then you just go to
Jungle and get the eggs. It's still really good. It's a very strong build. It's just it just requires
I know speed likes it, but it's it he's a five position right speed in his videos
He talks a lot about a lot of these other roles if you watch him play his pubs
He plays every role so but it's just it's not really something that plays five because you like to farm you like to farm
Okay, so extreme. I mean they like
We can certainly talk about how I feel like army. I don't know if this is true. It feels true
So I'm gonna say I'm gonna float it out there feels like he might have played a different carry like almost every game
If not every game
Yeah, let's do the math real quick. Yeah, thank you. Thanks
He's playing definitely 11. Yeah, there has been a different carry in every single game for Ami. That's how he always looked like him and Yatharo.
It's not crazy.
It is insane.
I bet some old school Yutaro should have.
Yeah, pretty much.
I mean, they say it looked really, really good in the first part of the tournament. They ended the groups with 3 and 0, then they beat Nemesis 2-0, and then they were playing against LGD and felt like they were going back to what...
I don't think it can fit.
Exactly.
Yeah, that's the problem.
They laid way too many heroes.
But something just didn't click yesterday when they were playing against LGD.
They went back to maybe like being too versatile is also a bit of a problem
because he played Drone Ranger.
I don't know if anyone else wanted to take that hero at the moment.
He picked BL on 18 and they got overran by LGD early on.
So I think that they probably realized that they didn't get the chance
to play the game pretty much against LGD gaming. Also, I was watching the game yesterday and
that second game when they had PL, they were down 15,000 and Dota plus said, you know what?
This is 55% chance for extreme gaming to take this one. I'm like, I don't know about this
one. It was a really weird one.
Yeah, it was really weird. I mean, I watched those matches yesterday and I was watching
the replays. So I was looking from LGD's perspective. I was watching some some snaking Dota and to be honest
not to give excuses to extreme because I agree like the draw ranger like what was that you're
you're it's not a hero but LGD yeah is powering on like they're getting really good as a team
they're figuring out the the flow of things they're figuring out what heroes to pick you can tell
everybody's getting more comfortable with each other.
LG looked scary.
So for Extreme, I'm glad they got a humbling.
I'm glad they got a wake-up call
because they looked really good
and we want them to do well here.
But also I think part of it is that
they got tested against LGD
and they just, they failed the test.
So they need to get better here in the series
because another team that has been powering on
is Gamer Legion.
They've never looked this good as a team
as they are in this tournament.
Yeah, look, we can talk a little bit about
extreme's history obviously you know they're an up-and-down team and we've
been waiting for a truly great Chinese lineup to return. Yeah it seems like this
might be it and what I wanted to show is the way that they've been playing in
the last two tournaments two big ones because if you look at their average
match duration at EWC it has been 50 minutes average wind duration for them
It took them almost an hour at TI.
Also, the placements, you can see the connection between two of those,
where the slower they play, the worst results they get.
And so far at Valakia, they've been speeding things up.
Their average maturation is 41 minutes for them,
but also reaching top six so far,
they can go further into the tournament as well.
And I would definitely consider them favorites in this one,
because of how they played.
I don't think it's gonna be an easy one gamer legion did manage to pull off some like really nice drafts
I think for extreme gaming. It's very important
They don't go back to what happened yesterday to have these like really wonky drafts where they feel like they need to pick these heroes
I want to see some stability
They really don't have to you did mention Richard brewmaster as a hero both of the offlaners
They love to run it
I yeah, whoever doesn't have first pick in this series if it goes to like even three games
It's gonna get banned out hundred percent. It's funny that we don't come see you
Yeah, you're not gonna see Bruno. It's so funny. We talked about omay as he's played a different hero in every single game
Zeal probably has the smallest hero pool of any player in the term like three or four heroes
He's like four heroes
He is doom in every single game, but he's not the remaster pretty much. He's the new 33
He is in it it works for them like if it's getting through and you think that it's consistent
And honestly, they're picking him in these scenarios where they're opening him up to
counters and he still does well.
It makes a lot of sense to me.
It's really convenient to have a guy like this and speaking of counters, bounty hunter,
very strong hero.
We talked a lot about this hero at the start of the tournament.
Spearpecker, in my opinion, is one of the best counters in the game to be it.
He shows for a fraction of a second on a sentry, even though like this.
immediately from the other side of the map.
He had a great performance in Q that is on Spirit Breaker.
Hard to tell, you know, oh, he had a great performance.
That game was insane, the Glypnir.
The Glypnir, yeah, Agadam Scepter.
He was just bashing all around, bashing Enigma.
He couldn't get the Black Hole off when they were playing against CVS.
And definitely one of the better counters.
Now it's up for Gamer Legion to decide
whether they want to ban the Darkshire as well.
It gives, I think there's old Enigma's ban,
So one of the better offline duos out there for sure when it comes down to Spirit Breaker getting a lot of stuff done.
So I want to see if they're going to be approaching this Darkseer potential problem that could come out considering that Zeal still hasn't played it.
You said that he only played four heroes. That's not something that he banged out yet, but...
I do like it sometimes that when you throw down the blunt and you say, okay, this hero is strong, but I haven't seen you play it.
you play it. It might not be strong on you. So go on, you get the first game, you get to try it.
That's the Lawn Druid game one, where nobody respects it, you get the Lawn Druid.
I don't think it's a good strategy. SP Dark Sierra is one of the few Dark Sierra scenarios.
That might be most of his wins, actually, when he's paired with a good melee here.
And Spearbreaker is definitely the best one, because you can shell him. So they might get it.
You can shell him and he can leave lane and you effectively have a second hero that's showing up to a gank
He can go through portal. He can charge mid. There's like a lot of things that you can do
So some very interesting bands coming up from game a legion. Obviously crystal maiden has been creeping in
Think we've seen snaking played out a couple of times. Yeah, but we could play it twice. Yeah
Very high win rates. Very good. I mean, I actually think she's back
I think she's a good hero again another one. I play all the low mechanic
Easy supports. She's sitting these five. She needs five move speeds true. I'll make her busted. She's hard
She's I actually think she's a hard hero. It's like one of the most really one of the most positioning based heroes in the game
Oh, sure to be good at it
you see these good crystal maidens like snaking and
They managed to find angles on these ganks where they put themselves in a safe position
position, but then they're also, you know, doing some like wraparound and catching heroes
out when they're not expecting.
It's really hard to do.
It's really good against mobility heroes too, but Frostbite will just mess it up the whole
day.
Very good against creeps, keeping his wall.
Yeah.
Offliners love to do that.
I like what Extreme Gaming did here.
They picked up Spiritbreaker on 9, not a hero that you would usually see.
It's a response to Bounty, but it's also a hero that does really well against Lena.
Especially in the early stages, she doesn't put a point in stunts.
She can't stop charge from going off.
So she's very susceptible to dying to Spirit Breaker at the early levels.
So now they have something to protect.
Alina, you charge someone, it's kind of like a guaranteed setup for Alina's spells as well.
Do you think the hero is good enough overall?
Because obviously we saw Niku from now.
They played it three times yesterday and it didn't look amazing.
Yeah, there was Lina in, I believe, all three games, she did okay.
Are they gonna NP? Yep.
It's so interesting that they've done this twice into Spearbreaker.
I think the other time Spearbreaker was a count, maybe the counter pick or the
dazzle came out, then the Spearbreaker, then the Nature's Prophet, something
like that, where they, they just don't care about SB because it does work both
ways, right? Nature's Prophet TP's in, Spearbreaker can charge them globally.
It's a huge pain in the ass for NP. You can never split push, but on the flip side you
Can never have that advantage of spear picker shows up to a gank and you have the plus one because nature's profit
Can also be a plus one so it does go both ways and the NP dazzle combo has some
Insane win rate as a duo. Yeah
It's insane amount of damage that they deal also one of the reasons why gamer Legion was doing so well
So far in the tournament is they have been running this combo and also tomato as their new carry
He is really popping off thanks to having a strong entry to these early and mid games and also having
Dazzle behind him knowing that he can itemize differently in that third game yesterday
He didn't necessarily need to get a BKB up until his fifth maybe even sixth item where he just went in full on damage
He was playing against Necro one of the fastest nullifiers that we've seen in tournament where he picked it up as his like third item
and maybe Lycan can't pick it up as his second item, but
but they still go for the Darkseer, as we suggested.
It's an interesting one against Natures,
because Natures has very good stats,
and so he can be a very good Illusion Hero.
However, there is a build where you can build
Njolnir, MKB, Revenant, and things like that
and deal your damage with these modifiers,
instead of having high base damage
and being a good Illusion Hero.
So it goes both ways against Darkseer, but the SB plus Darkseer is too strong.
And I'm so glad to see J'Kyro pick the Darkseer.
Yes, you want to have some kind of a combo. Now they have a triple combo.
I think we have seen something similar from one of the teams.
Can't remember who it was, but it did look very, very good with the J'Kyro Darkseer.
They might even had a Spiritbreaker as well.
And it seems like it's a very easy way to play the game.
Largo for some reason was still in the pool. To me, this hero should be banned out in the first
banning stage. You're playing against Jekiro. There's a lot of annoying spells that you can dispel,
damage over time, great against Darkseer, remove the surge, remove the iron shell.
Are we thinking it's a fade Largo then? Because it's only been RCY playing it.
Yeah, it could be made. I think, yeah, I actually remember the same matchup that he played against
Lina during EWC and he almost solo killed Lina in one of those games. They played two games at EWC
Yeah, and he won one he lost the other one, but it looked very good. I did suggest
Something the other day that he needs to buy a blood grenade in this matchup because you can get the kill
Even though you are a melee hero, you're still super tanky
You just don't die to Lina that easily and it feels like maybe that extra bit of a frog stomp one right click and
And the one extra bit of just damage input could make the kill on Lina.
I don't think it's going to be as easy because both of the teams have global presence, so
you might see MP teeping in, you might see Bounty Hunter early rotation.
You could also see Spirit Breaker charging Largo, which would make a little bit of a
difference in this matter.
I was going to say he has a walking blood grenade in the Bounty Hunter, right?
Like this guy's going to show up mid and he can provide that extra damage and disable
to keep Lina in the Frog Stomp.
Maybe that's part of the idea here is that they think like the Largo with the bounty on a rotating is really good at maybe killing
The midline I'm trying to recall. We saw see why play it into was it in focus?
He played the log the Largo wasn't it? I can't recall. He's played it
I mean because we were discussing whether or not we thought it was
good in the midline
Off the back you played it once against ember and they lost that and then and then ember that was it
And the ember matchup makes sense because you're you know taking off the the flame shield the the other one was he played against a
Pango which also makes sense because you're taking off the pango W shield
So again against Lena. I mean I'll trust the cost when he says he saw this matchup at EWC
Yeah, I was very surprised the way he was able to do it.
I would have no idea, because it's a very strange matchup.
RCY is the only person who seems to be willing to bang this out as a mid laner, which is really cool.
I like that GamerLegion does this, and that they have their own style, and that they trust him to do it.
Just like they are trying to speed things up, seeing that the extreme gaming, they are a little bit of a slower team,
when it comes down to their entry to the game.
A lot of the times, this is the team that will play from behind.
Quite a lot of heals, a lot of momentum, kind of run a chew line up with Bounty Hunter Nature's Prophet.
I feel like they need something to tie this together because right now they have no stuns.
They have no ways of really starting the fight. They're very strong once they group up, but they need that hero that's going to be like,
okay, this is how we start the fight.
There's a few good options. Like, I know people really like Centaur.
They like him against Shakira because you have the double hit and it tears through Shakira.
You can't really sit there and harass you and it's super good against the Darkseer,
Vak, Wall combo into Shakira spells.
There's all ground targeted BS that you can kind of just press R and disengage from, right?
So it feels really good here.
I could be okay with some like Tiny coming out for Ame, a hero that he didn't play if
we're going to go with that throughout the 11 matches 11 different heroes or
Yeah, tiny life stealer is also pretty good against
It's a good life stealer game and you've infest ball and with spear breaker
But it is kind of crazy that tiny is still in the pool it's been such a high
priority ban for
Every team in this tournament
But that's what happens when you have these late tournament matchups where there's so much specialty stuff that has to be dealt with
Good matchup against Lifestealer, good matchup against the Nature's Prophet as well.
They have no BKB piercing abilities, so...
This is his 11th hero overall, this tournament.
I think he doubled up on the PL.
So this is a...
Oh, he did, yeah.
He played to PL two times.
Yeah, of course.
So he hasn't played this tournament, so how do you feel about the pick overall?
I really like what the extreme gaming have. I feel with this centaur it gives them a stun. It gives them momentum
But I'm not sure if they can overrun them with the draft that they have
They have very strong heroes to be able to punch back early on
Darks here with the iron shell and spirit breaker. Jack hero insane amount of damage same goes for Lena lifestealer
We've seen some hit or miss lifestealer games yesterday in particular as Keter
He was the one who ended the game with zero four and zero because a lot of the time
I think people realize that life stealer can be abused in the lane
But this was overall last big life stealer with no BKB piercing tools
And I think on my walks away in this game with like zero maybe like one that having zero assist is one of the funniest things
Yeah, zero
Couldn't even get one ticket damage on any literally no impact
Yeah, I will say this this is obviously noob tech. Everyone knows it, but you know the spirit breaker life stealer
It's a it's a classical mode in first volume. Yeah, charge on the sun and he's a good iron shell target
Yeah, you know, it's a melee carry. I think this is really cool
It's it's a battle of two very different types of play styles extreme gaming has some insane team fight and scaling
Whereas gamer Legion has potentially strong lanes. It's their explosive. They want to up the tempo super early
Yes, yeah, well, that's how they've been playing. I mean when they've won
I feel like they've been up tempo, but it's Tom highlighted
you know extreme are playing up tempo compared to the usual standard themselves
Yeah, they're trying to match the tempo some of the teams and trying to speed things up
So I do see like it is definitely a speedy draft on side of gamer legion something that they try to replicate against 1w in game
Number one, but I do I do think that extreme gaming they can punch back. All right. Well, we're about to find out
I'll throw you over to the commentators. Let's get into the action guys
That's a very professional throw. Thank you so much, Richard.
Sansfan here with Cinderan and, yeah, elimination series between Game Religion and Xtreme.
What are you expecting going into this?
I was expecting Xtreme to ban other heroes.
I'm a little bit surprised they gave Game Religion more or less in essence the same lineup that they just smashed Game One with yesterday.
But that's effectively Xtreme saying, we've seen what you guys have played and we have the solution.
And now they're going to just put that to the test here.
if it's going to work, that is going to put them at a serious advantage in this series, not just being up one game obviously, but kind of, if you can beat the enemy's best strategy in game one, you're probably going to win, right?
So, curious to see this. It's been an interesting tournament in many ways where teams seem to be struggling with different things.
You've got a team like Gamer Legion that are running Bounty Hunter first pick, and a lot of other teams didn't really seem to make it work that well.
Extreme Gaming however were very good against Bounty Hunter in one of their games that we got to cast.
And now they are running once again a targeted pick against Bounty in the Spirit Breaker,
and they're also running the Dark Seer on Zeal who has had an atrocious tournament, the Hero, that is.
and Zeo, like the panel pointer, hasn't really played that many different heroes, so
I'm gonna have to wait and see how they pull this one off in the off lane.
RCY is back on mid-largo, I'm not a fan of this, I'll be honest.
They ran it as a counter to Ember, they lost that game.
Now he's against Lena, but she has to be a tough lane, no?
I don't know, we'll see. Lena's been kind of underwhelming.
I feel like, I feel like the only one that, like this hero is completely overrated at this tournament.
It's been okay, it's not like, the fact that we're seeing it basically every game at this point,
it's like, come on, there's no way it's this good.
I honestly think some of the Lena performances just haven't really been that good.
So, it is a little bit of a disservice to the hero.
XM, I have pretty high expectations for him on this, which is obviously going to lead to an end in disaster.
That's usually how it goes with me, and expecting good things out of the China region in particular.
It's the ongoing joke.
Whenever I believe in this region, they do poorly, and when I abandon all hope, they suddenly start playing well.
How are you killing now?
Now it's mixed after yesterday, which I suppose means anything can happen.
Yeah, they got 2 owed by LGD.
They found themselves in a lower bracket.
This is despite not losing any series up until that point.
Yep.
But, I mean, the panel kind of talked about it.
The thing that I've not liked about Xtreme, and really, you could just group it into Chinese
Dota in general, it's just a very, very slow play, but they had been trying to up the tempo,
which I can appreciate.
And, I mean, they have a pretty aggressive lineup.
I mean, Life Stealer, it's not one of these heroes that has to farm for 45 minutes.
You get a couple items.
You can jump inside the spear breaker who's already inherently an aggressive hero.
The dark sea you've talked about also relatively aggressive.
Obviously the landing stage is going to be all about farm, but at the end of the day they
have ways to start fights, which is important.
I do think the temple is a good point, and if you think about it, maybe that's why GQ
feels like the standout player in China for us when we watch, right?
Is that I think he is one of the best aggressive players the region's ever had, and in a time
when they've been struggling to find that pacing, he kind of brings that to the team.
So we've seen some excellent performances from him already this tournament.
You and I got to cast a Spirit Breaker, we've cast his Marana, both of them, I would say,
among some of the best support performances of the entire event so far.
So if he can get off to a good start here, can expect some great things, it is however
a pretty difficult lane.
Dazzle Prophet has looked almost like an impenetrable lane.
Even though Darkseer Spirit Breaker historically is good against Prophet, the Dazzle just seems
to make it so difficult to do anything.
You just spawn Trine, play with Shadow Wave, and put non-stop pressure.
It would be interesting to see XinQ play into Europe.
I actually think it's placed out well for sure.
I don't know how good his English is, but...
That's the problem.
Back when the DC days, I remember there was a rumor that Xiao8 was considering playing
in Europe or just Western actually knows NA specifically because we were actually
in a we were not that region did exist but never came to fruition really the
closest we've gotten is faith beyond not really joining a European team but
living in the West I guess still ended up back in China though in terms of the
teams that seem to just be swapping players constantly throughout the last
ten years. Yep. It would be interesting to see, but yeah, very few of the Chinese players have
an English proficiency that would really allow them to play at a high level in the
region, but it's a fun thought experiment. I definitely think FaithBion would be one of
the other players whose overall approach and playstyle would fit. In terms of like, let's call it
like, ideology of how to play the game.
Gotta say, though, this Darkseer Spirit Breaker offline is actually doing quite well,
because it's not getting completely curbstombed,
which is the best result we've seen against Dazzle Prophet.
Yeah.
Darkseer got to level 3 by cutting the wave together with Spirit Breaker's health,
they've been pulling as well, and now,
Zeal is just off farming sidecamps, which frees up,
Jean-Q to pretend he wants to charge Largo, but they're not really going to.
Haha, just kidding.
And we'll stay bottom. It's actually a pretty big wave coming here as speed
farming the hard camp with the trients on
Dazzle
This doesn't mean they can't pull the wave
I actually think it would have been better to not farm these so you had to pull up the wave over there
Because now you're giving darks here two full waves in tower which in my eyes bit of a mistake here
That was avoidable because you had full lane control
He's gonna be super happy to receive these four or five CS almost level four now
He's going to get a shell on TP top, this is going to be a first blood attempt.
Yep, get the upwinds on the fade, charge on the way, nice huff stop though, onto the
2.
It's blood donated though, try to slow this down a bit with the shadow walk, then you
get an extreme low.
You have to pop the load, it's a zeal actually dies on the bot lane, the first blood is not
going to go the way of extreme, instead they're going to lose ginkyu in the pursuit.
Disasterous turn of events.
He just rolled the dice and spirit breaker.
You get into this mindset at some point
where you're like, it's not possible
my next hit isn't a bash, but it is.
And when it isn't a bash, you die in the tower.
And then when it is a bash, you actually
still die in the tower, but maybe it kills the Centaur first.
Instead, just giving over a kill
and first blood for Tamato, this is a great start
for Gamer Legion, finding that kill
onto the Darkseer down bottom.
Not really sure how they did it. It's not a lane you would expect to kill Darkseer from full HP, really.
Dazzle Prophet.
Yeah, we did talk about the prowess of the Shadow Wave with the Trients yesterday.
It's been a combo that Gamer Legion have been enjoying quite a bit as the speed gets more in touch.
XM getting gone on now, it gets Frog stomped with the lick.
There's a TP on the way, it's shurikened and he's gonna live.
You can see not a whole lot of damage done to Gamer Legion in turn though.
Probably just reset and try forward again potentially.
Now the one thing I do like about Gamer Legion's lineup is it is ultra aggressive.
Push heavy for sure.
Yep.
Frogman, you talked about you don't like it mid, well he's going to get his items a little
bit faster than an off lane and there is a power spike for this hero.
Yeah, it does.
I think it makes more sense than some other lineups we've seen it run with because my
My issue with mid-largo is that you don't really have that much in the way of playmaking,
and a lot of the time that is a requirement for the mid-hero to do.
But this game, you're a carryist, super mobile, and you have bounty hunter.
So I think that kind of offsets the hero's weaknesses when running the mid lane that I generally have with it.
It's just fascinating that, I mean, there's so many options, right, for RCY in this game.
The rate that's the absolute highest.
Interesting to see. Let's see if they get the payoff.
Time for wisdom.
He kills them big trouble. He can't search. It's just gonna get licked.
Indeed. Very good counter to the Darkseer as the Wrath will take him out.
They're gonna be able to steal this wisdom shrine on the other side. Who's picking that one up?
It's a bit of a fight for it.
Ami does not want to give it up for free, but now he's in a 2 vs 1, so...
He might actually die here.
He's gonna get both of them. Maybe even a kill on top of Ami cross comes not enough because of the rage.
Ami does get away.
I thought R.C.Y also had phase foods, but it doesn't.
Jin Q killed off on the other side, so big note.
Standing in this leap for Gamer Legion, 4-0 start for them.
Getting two Wisdoms is really important when you have Bounty Hunter.
Or rather, it's not important, like it's important to get at least one, but it's a big boon to get two.
This hero often times struggles to find level six, so we'll bring him all that bit closer to a lead already.
So far, gotta say, Extreme's counter to this very telegraph strategy has not worked.
See when they find the entrance into this game.
Stampede now online.
Make matters worse.
Finding kills for Spirit Breaker.
Grouping up in the mid lane, they really want XM, but he is playing ultra-defensively with Jyn Keele on the back lane as well.
Well, we get back stabbed.
There's the Luzuna Blade on to Daytona at half HP already.
The real kill here that they would love to get is on the XN PVV force mount.
Lick on to XN point, that's still getting low.
The rapid nature from Tomato is enough to get the kill.
A big pick up. They're gonna lose their bounty hunter in the pursuit.
Now they look down to Maboka as he's surrounded and taken out.
This is the power of having a nature's profit.
Double kill for Tomato, and now you can probably just go for this Tier 1.
At least damage it heavily.
This already looks like big problems for extreme gaming, because if you're losing
mid this hard, how do you make plays? You play with Darkseer Spirit Breaker,
that's kind of the only option you have. Life's too low, it's not going to contribute
anything, so a lot of pressure onto Zeal to get those in here. They're going to try
something out to the Largo.
the Frost Office.
They're going to be quite annoying.
If you get the Stampede, maybe they
want to punch around again.
Big enough.
Take a little breath with the ice cap as well.
The lift now onto RCY.
Speed joining the party.
Get a poison punch onto XMP.
We'll do so.
Gets the Grave on himself in the meantime
with a shout out of his wealth.
And that is a dead XM.
Question is, what is the trade going to be?
It's speed at the very least.
RCY, no man to speak of as Army joins up.
Gets the rage off.
RCY, not sure if you'll be able to get out of this one.
And that's a triple kill for Pabokka, to Kiro.
They do get some sort of a turnaround.
It requires a lot of TP's.
Yeah, they needed that badly, and it still doesn't even feel that great.
But it's something.
In the meantime, your top lane is on fire.
Profit is already almost 2,000 gold ahead of Life Stealer.
So you've got more trouble ahead of you.
And unfortunately there for XG, I think not good for them to get all the kills into Kiro.
That was gold that the cores are going to sorely miss in the upcoming 10 minutes of this game when
without question game religion are going to
Increase the tempo of this
And for fate it's gonna be helm into heart which has been
Obviously the standard not to some degree and some variation, but you can get an early heart
You can absolutely carry on Centaur for at least an extended period of time before the position 1s come online.
GQ, you care with a macro fire now? I like not to bignum, not to be able to save.
Oh, do they have Grave off though as GQ gets to the high ground?
And bignum is going to be saved as a result of this, as another protection we used from speed.
Not going to lose nobody as a result.
Gamer Legion.
They have the heals, they have the saves.
Top tower falls, it will be denied at least for Ame.
And the bad fight is way out of the big enough.
Raja onto two from JinQ gets stunned up though, not a problem, he's there.
Gonna get the lick back into the fray and then there's a dead cow.
That's Bokka left with very little mana, he just been pursued out by Rcy, because I'm
gonna get great at last moments so Zeal's creep is not enough to get the kill along
with the wall.
He's going to stay alive thanks to the tranquil.
This is RCY going to continue the pressure.
Looking for the lick.
He'll inside of the tree line, though as more TPs are coming,
they look into the blade finally, and as MTP's in.
An absolutely manic dive.
No other way to put that for me.
That was just batshit crazy.
He was so far ahead of his teammates, he did not have a haste,
and he had an arcane, so he couldn't really play his way out of it.
Mistakes like that can be quite costly. Let's remember you're playing a tempo line of your only up 1k in
Com for comparison in the game against one when they were up. I think about 5,000 now
I was starting to make a significant dent
In one wins economy and also one win had a slower strategy than extreme does so I honestly think
With these if they make a couple of mistakes like this extreme are in a very good position
You just need to get time for this life to the radiance
For leaners to get an item or two, got to temper your aggression, not to carry it away.
Sometimes you get a little too excited, it happens to the best of us.
Big jump. Charged up.
Macro fire. We'll get the 10x but again an awful projection with the brave to save him.
Now Jin can get a click back in.
Demonstrate, he's trying to get it off, finally does, he's going to get the bounty, there's going to be a trade for his life as Tamato joins up.
Get that double kill for himself.
Aggression continuing, over and over.
Ame, about to get the sacred rally.
XM with the boots of travel is going to go for the Eul's first.
And Mjolnir should be finished here for Tamato.
And really I want to see what RCY builds after this.
I mean, he could go Meteor Hammer if they're going to do actual, just push.
Mm-hmm, that's possible. We do see that build sometimes.
I think, likely, he's just going to go Kaisanj, but...
It's definitely an option. Zeal.
Oh, who's killing who here?
He's on the lake.
That thing now looks to be very, very dead, but the Grave, again, is on me.
TP's, I feel like he's very, very active this game.
They get the Laguna, they punish this move again from Gamer Legion.
It wasn't necessary to get that kill. It's not really that great though.
We have five heroes bottom now just to kill a bounty hunter, but at the same time,
like Lacoste said, you have the lineup that can punch back and you kind of need to do it.
It's not only about getting that kill, it's about showing Gamer Legion that they can't just get away with everything they want.
So it's a little bit more than just the gold at stake there.
Go to plus? Very even.
Yeah, I agree with that. I don't think the Radiant line of this I had by enough to make it convincing.
And we've seen some late game ZinQ's queerbreaker before.
What do you think about XM buying Yule here? That's relatively unusual for Mid-Lina nowadays.
It's off track, poison touch.
Not it.
It's obviously also good offensively to set up a guaranteed LSA, but it does slow down your overall power curve compared to, say, Kayasha, or even Ag's rush that we've seen in particular Mobe go for.
I don't know.
The idea could genuinely just be we need defensive layers to buy time.
Like the enemy team is going to run at us, how can we stay alive?
And then I think you could buy force staff too, no?
Prophet, it's good against Frog Stomp, it's good against Centaur.
But it doesn't give him mana regen, which is obviously very big for Lina, so...
And we'll see.
Auto Hurricane Pike incoming.
Not a big surprise.
Radiance online for Ame.
And we seal the Shivas into what do you think?
I guess it's just dagger.
Standard.
The trifecta of items you bind up to in more or less every game, Dom, Shiva's, Blink, and after that it gets interesting, because then you can see like Octrain, you can see DKB, you can see the Krellas, different options, maybe he'll get some boots at some point.
It's not bad to get some sort of boots.
You think you either buy brown boots or travels, you're not going to buy arcane's minute 20,
I think.
It feels kind of big.
Being charged, that's a pretty guaranteed kill by the looks of it unless you manage
just to get into the tower range, but she does.
All right.
The dust.
Hawkeye, there's another strike, TP on the way.
And RCY gonna get the wheels.
Attempted TP, not gonna have to.
Well.
And she's abandoned by his team
and maybe overextended a bit.
Yeah, forced three or four TPs, not that bad.
I guess three, right?
One of them was a spell TP, not a scroll though.
With me
The fact that this has a barrier makes no sense to me
A lot of the things about profit that you're like why was because the hero was
very bad
Before he got that he went through some cycles. He was very good
Then he got over nerfed was terrible and then they gave him Barry on teleport that helped a bit
Then they gave him another buff and another buff and then all of a sudden he's good
and you're like why does he have a barrier on teleport so I'm kind of with
you I wouldn't mind seeing that removed and just give us something else to
compensate maybe just thematically yeah it's it is kind of weird
I mean if they removed it I don't think it would change much it makes a pretty
big difference to just have a 250 barrier when you're TPing
and
now charged
off and deliver this time
as well as the teammates
we're going to save the time being fun
the PSXRang as well
looks like a repeat
all five for Gamer Legion and the shallow
graves on point
looked like Xtreme are going to be able
to commit to this one but again the
stampede just too big of an issue
I wonder if this is deliberate from Jin-Q, honestly, if he keeps charging at them to poke and prod and force responses so that
Gamer legionary, not the ones making moves. Like, his Spiritbreaker kills a relatively inconsequential right. This is a bigger one, though.
Yeah, this is nice. Tamato from the north know where to go. I packed his on a little bit of time.
Poison touch, now the charge from Jin-Q.
Tomorrow, Royally messed that up for himself, unfortunately. Blocked himself with his own sprout.
That's unfortunate.
Turned it into trans, but it was too late.
Now is the Orcid reveal as well.
Which, let's see if Ame opts for a Manta.
He's going for the Armlet first.
Alright, it feels like when there's an Orcid it's...
Oh, he didn't go Eul's out, but he did go the X.
Okay.
Yeah, still wants it.
Seems.
Yeah, this is a pretty strong timing.
You have eggs, Lena.
You've got Radiance Life Sealer.
But still needs to find the angle.
Oh, that's a lot of bounties.
You want?
Okay.
How does that happen?
It happens when nobody goes to pick them up.
That's crazy.
That was over a thousand gold on the ground.
through the gate Jin Q wants to go I'm a he's probably getting very antsy and
silent matter of time he's had some creeps
they'll get the tier one gamer legion not interested at the moment
Grunts for Jyn-Q now.
Raph and Nature look so insane at times.
Oh, is this real life?
Wow!
They're tormenter!
Torment time.
They take a beating.
Baboka gets the shard.
There's always a between him and Jyn-Q.
Yeah.
Ginkyu shored this game.
Eh.
Double edge track, boys and touch.
Guess you can take the lick, which is kinda nice.
The sprout, I suppose.
Sprout count?
I would think so if it's hero targeted.
That it would just get redirected.
How does it impale work?
Earth spike, as you call it, with Lincoln's, for example.
It's a good question. I mean, we haven't seen this shard very much, so it's not. We don't have that much of a reference.
I feel like these ground targets that you can click, they used to get blocked by Lincoln's? I don't know if they do anymore.
I don't know how it works with Spirit Breaker.
It should be a big find.
It's cracked. There's the orchid. Do we have the damage? We'll stop. Yes!
Big kill.
Completely alone up there nobody scouting nobody protecting that's the Shad area the Shad area the Shad special and the shame outcome
Now BKB for tomorrow, but just cut that orchid I think getting an area named after you dying there. It is not great
They have that in CS many places
Hmm
It's not for dying though, I don't think so either I think it's for big plays
Yeah, but it's getting an area named after you's really cool. It might be it might be web. That's Richard
I'd be one area where somebody got hit very easily. I can't remember
RCY has his shield around
He pursued now
I get the charge, LSA, Laguna
Pick him in there, and focus a little bit on Felina.
Arcey, what is going to be fine though, the grave again,
and J.Q. is just going to pay the ultimate sacrifice.
It's going to be a one support.
And Mato comes in with that BKB, now he's focused by Ame.
J.Q. still somehow alive, gets off the charge,
and looks out to Mato, but he's going to drop.
It's the double kill on the way out though.
Ame's the one to live.
D.L. will get licked back into the frog stop.
Double edge with the hook stop to follow.
There's going to be any follow up on top of that,
another double edge almost enough to get the kill the vacuum puts one on the
clip as Faye trying to finish the job doesn't look like it's gonna happen though
and speed in a 1v1 against Amé not exactly a fair fight
that is a really good result for extreme considering how that started I
thought they're gonna get a run over but Amé is strong enough to face the
profit head-on and stabilize that fight and eventually if this becomes like an
even trade on numbers they do overall win I would say given the expectation in
this current game state and what the radiant lineup wants to see the replay
here if this is when you think it's going to go particularly poorly right
you commit so much onto the Largo who then doesn't die but tomato cannot stand
up to Ame here, that's the big difference maker. He gets to just stick, sit and deliver.
There's nobody countering him during the rage. They simply don't have a single Stelix
at Stem P for those used already. There's a nice detail here from Fedo, it's a good
Let's have the Wild Wing into Centaur Stomp.
Now, regardless of how that fight went,
the first brush will go the way of the ring.
You can see Tomatoes mindset here.
Say Tannick next, he wants to be able to
take the fight that he just did
and survive for as long as possible against the life stealer.
BKB being built by Zeal, picks up his shard finally with the blink heart and already an ogre acts into his eventual BKB so his farm has not slowed down too much.
RCY in the meantime looks like the agonim scepter. So this is the original build of the Largos when they yeah when it was first introduced
Doesn't go DKB himself would make a lot of sense at least
You're still susceptible to spirit rate for this kind of it speaking of
The grave as well, but we'll survive.
Rinse and repeat after JinQ.
Over and over, but the back he wants it to.
He'll do the play on his feet as well.
He's dead.
Tamada trying to fight his way out of it.
The Aegis is already consumed.
Ame, we get the whole edge.
Mada just gonna try to fight his way out of it.
Look at that, Nader's Ame.
Top step, Manta.
That's the impressive of Baboka.
Now the TP in.
Bay's gonna get the full stop in the meantime.
There's a frog stop on top of him.
Tuta double headed dragon to be able to get Ame.
Now Ame gets the open wounds onto Tamato. Can't chase any further though, at half HP and does no longer has his infest.
If he taps up, this would be a potential kill, babe.
That's the blank. Looks like he'll focus on XM instead.
Now they re-initiate to clearly come in, but Cracky wants him to go with the Wildwing Ripper in the zone.
And Ame gets the sign that he wants to fight right now.
The RCY continues to heal, they're running out of resources, they're running out of mana, not a charge.
Autismana finally drops and extreme. They stick around long enough to win this fight.
As Gamer Legion run out of resources completely, double kill for Aume. They lose three on the
Gamer Legion side. Really, really good formation here. It makes such a big difference that they
spread out the heroes in the way they do. They're never really getting combos by anything. It's one
hero getting caught at a time and they keep being able to keep them afloat. Nice attempt as well on
on the vacuum until LSA combo missed it a bit. They got the ice path part of it though.
So didn't even have the perfect execution, but still good enough.
And when you see fights like this, this is
what makes me feel like a lot of people,
including the teams and myself, expected Darkseer to be a really, really strong hero
in this tournament just has had terrible results. But
fights of this nature, I feel like really showcase the strength of the hero.
I think he got two or three Shiva saw I believe two vacuums long extended fights
this hero is king and search for like a pseudo getaway yeah a reset and this
chase down from fade yes he connects in December there's no follow-up here
immediately so Darkseer comes in that LSA if that hits I mean the result would
have kind of been the same because the same heroes ended up dying anyway in the
end I believe, but...
They're... killing everyone.
That's very helpful.
Good comms.
What the hell was that?
Well, in case...
Gamer Legion weren't paying attention on their other players,
Fade has happened to let them know that they have died.
Yeah.
I guess so.
Yeah, pretty disastrous fight for Gamer Legion.
And when you look at the lineup, how would you say this fair is late game?
Not well.
Drop top considerably?
Yeah.
In all honesty, given how they played against 1-1 yesterday in game 1, if they could somewhat
mimic that performance, it would have been a 15k lead now.
And they're down by 2.
So it's a 20k delta, if you will, between all-unlucky XM, his illusionary pops during
his TP.
Oh, it's always funny when that happens.
Gonna be forced to smoke with his team.
Oh no!
We have to go together now.
I would consider this a considerable dire advantage.
Mid Largo is falling off in my opinion.
Got his team back to the wall already killing off the dad.
No way, it's disastrous now for Gamer Legion.
5k lead for Extreme, definitely in the driver's seat now.
Yeah.
Your bounty hunter hasn't successfully constricted the enemy team from farming, your mid Largo is losing all his tempo,
Dazzle is going to lose efficacy at this point, and Profit, yes you are top net worth,
but your overall hard hitting on Tomato definitely took a hit because you bought Arcade, right?
Like a lot of the time on these carry profits you just stand up really fast and become super super strong.
I understand the Orcid purchase, I don't think it was bad, but it does have some execution requirements
Requirements that game religion kind of just didn't meet
Now they are paying the price plenty of structures to take outside the base so more gold
It's the connection on the charges in Q no back. It was kind of just being annoying
Successful at that
Now the farm is slowed down consider a blammy is gonna take top-to-one you know as X
How much does this axe need to be nerfed before it's not purchased any more?
Yeah, it's pretty good.
I mean, the biggest thing about it, you would think, is being able to infest enemies.
I would say, more than 50% of the time, that I, when we cast, they do not use it that way.
So, really what they're getting out of it is, first of all, the cooldown reduction is huge.
Mm-hmm, and then the cast range also enormous because that is one of the hardest spells to get off before ag's
You're just begging for a teammate to get close to you a lot of the times
Yeah, and
Obviously, it's also just every situation that you do infest an enemy
Think about it. You're paying 4200 gold for some decent stats, which you know every ag's buyer gets every successful offense of
infested gets off heals you like 1500
so
Then we can talk about some serious EHP, right?
All that matters is that you get one opportunity after taking substantial damage to click it on literally any enemy hero.
It doesn't have to be, you know, the perfect one.
Then you get both damage and the heal.
Those four seconds, we can do the math here.
You're infested four seconds on an enemy, you get 10% HP per second.
That's 350 times four.
Yep, it's about 1500.
Close to it.
Magnum's dead.
Magnum is super dead.
This map is just...
I don't know. I don't know how you play the map now, as Radiant.
It's so hard.
Bounty Hunter has to scout, but he is always at risk of being the one target and killed off.
Set heading into the series that this is essentially...
Gamer Legion bringing their best strategy.
I would say Sans the mid-largo.
I still am not convinced of that, but the rest of it looks very strong with what they were winning with yesterday
And extreme are now outlasting them in game one
I personally don't agree with this win probability. It's only two to one. I think I think extreme are further ahead than that
The pretty fat Roche. We'll see if they can scout it
15 is in queue infested
Damn, Droom bot as well.
I sound like people find the straggler out here anymore.
Yeah, map control in favor of extreme.
He'll be giving the Unspirit Breaker guaranteed charges now.
He's had some problems this game connecting them.
Against Largo in particular, it can be very annoying.
Nothing's stopping him now, which means there's a guaranteed entry into the fight for Ami as
well if they play that way.
Three tier two.
Every passing minute, Ame gets 20 health.
Pretty much.
Wind Waker now on Lena.
More reset, more kiting.
All about buying time.
Smoke from Gamer Legion, Ame's not ready to go for Roche quite yet.
Baster would be a good pickup for this next potential engagement.
Yeah, I think he might want to save Vivek over though, that's what it seems like.
the
I see why I didn't invest it.
Or the grave is on me.
They can catch up quite yet.
Jim Q and company are they going to find this dad?
Yes, so two dads.
The fights just get easier and easier.
It seems that they actually find the frog in the trees.
This will be a roach for Extreme and...
Just getting harder and harder.
Yeah.
You even got the initiation there and you got zero kills.
Kavalka got saved by XM's Wind Waker on the opening and it all falls apart.
Another decent vacuum combination once more.
And the Etchakiro is starting to reach critical mass as well as the Greaves now almost addicts.
Couple that with vacuum, that is disgusting.
It's essentially a secondary wall in terms of slow and just way more damage, way more
problems.
They're going to give him the wisdom as well, under Cura for level 18.
Tumato going for a butterfly once again, just trying to target Lifestealer's itemization.
Doesn't really feel like Ame is his only problem anymore though.
As soon as his BKB expires, he can get killed by literally anything on the dire team.
Tons of damage across Jekiro, Lina, and Darkseer.
And the control, Jinkyu's gonna bring it for the whole game unless he gets killed first
in the fights, so.
Alright, Basher is in the courier for Aume.
Butterfly for Tamato, so Aume's gonna have a little bit more trouble getting through
that.
It's just... it's not enough.
The Divine Rapier now.
They need damage, right? Like, this is a...
This isn't Daedalus, I guess.
It's the classic thing that we talk about, where when you're behind and you're short on damage,
then... yes, you will survive with this butterfly.
It is a hybrid item to be fair, it does give, you know, decent attack speed and whatnot,
but it just doesn't hit that hard.
And Temato has the Bloodthorn to try to get a lot of amplified damage,
But there's so many dispells now for that.
Ame has Manta, Lina has Wind Waker, Dartsir is BKB, Spirit Breaker is BKB, and Jekiro has Greaves.
So literally all of them can remove Bloodthorn if they're the primary target,
which makes this item feel quite bad now.
And obviously it's easy to be kept in hindsight and be like,
that Orc hit didn't work, should have bought more damage, but...
I'm high-legged.
But if easily been praising it, if they found the right types of plays with it,
It's just that that's a high-risk item in a game like this.
You know the enemy heroes are going to be buying counter items for it regardless
because they want those counter items against Track, against Centaur, against Largo anyway.
But you did have a timing window of 5 to 10 minutes where almost nobody had a counter for that orchid.
Just didn't win enough. And now Extreme looked like they might just be going for the killing blow
here if they get a good opener. Largo's showing and Roche banner plays they got two C genus as well.
Gonna be the building here. Bunker will help that as well with that shard.
Gamerly didn't even do it here. There's the initiation from the CL. Getting the lagoon
on to the frog. Double force that to save RCY. Bono already using a BKB and even the Naut on
One more time, quick!
A couple of ults down already.
Infest for the heal, and to protect the banner.
Ogre, beef the bold, looking for a big punch.
Mommy jumps out, doesn't have the shards.
It doesn't do the 50 damage per second there.
Q gets another strike onto RCY.
Considerable amount of damage.
Yeah.
But sloppy here from Xtreme as Q gets bursted down.
Forgot the enemy team has four staff.
Now it's tough to remember back in the game, and now another attempt in Missile Blade.
The Grave's gonna save RKY, back for a pyre, now to stampede and retreat.
This will be the main lane, this will be the full lane.
This is a 4v5 situation where they're still getting the racks.
They just don't care that Gengu's dead, they're just gonna keep going anyway.
Yeah, the last barracks will fall to the siege creep, they're too late to take out the banner.
So that's lane number one.
The motto is keep hitting that siege man.
Keep hitting that invulnerable siege.
What was that?
I felt like something we saw on day one of the banner.
Maybe it took a three-year break.
I'd love to see in a pro game.
Was it a pro game? It must have been a pub.
The infinite chain frost with Roche banner. No, I did it happened in a game this tournament
I think yeah, I think I think Fox said it happened once that is so funny
This increases by 25 damage east bounce you get the 25 talent so unlimited
Bounces on invulnerable creeps and then an enemy just pops in and it gets instagib so funny
Travels 2. XM can now connect on Spirit Breaker. It's a nasty combo.
I think a healthy sign for Xtreme this game is that I actually think this was a pretty bad game
in Q compared to his general level. So if he can have an off game and they still end up with a
I would say somewhat convincing, most likely at this point, victory that votes well going forward.
Zero and ten on ganku.
I mean, I would say a lot of his deaths are good, but there's also just a handful that are like, or almost a handful at least, that kind of like, headshaker moments.
Like, maybe unnecessarily aggressive.
Tomorrow now, looking to finish his nullifier.
But again, how good is that even here?
Like, what are you removing? Surge?
Spirit Breaker?
You're removing Bulldoze, but they have so many BKBs.
I don't even know if this was a- I don't think this was a good purchase.
He needs more damage, no?
I'm looking away for XM and...
I would rather see Daedalus.
That's it, right?
In terms of items.
Yeah, definitely missing a little bit of Rod, damn.
I mean, it feels like in a game like this, you need Daedalus divine.
I think so too. I really think so too. At least one of the two
Feels like you can't have one without the others
Mandatory pairing
It's gonna scare them away and it's looking like a 1v5 there
I can't believe you don't really accomplish too much.
A minute and a half from knowing when Roche comes up and maybe that's when we extreme.
Put the nail on the coffin.
I guess to nullify from Tomato, there's the Wind Waker and Fisk on Lena.
The fact that she has both does make it better.
See why? It's one hero.
Out pops the entire team, they got to keep Bissleblade from Aume, of course they have to worry about the Dazzle, they force out the BKB down, that's a win already for Extreme.
Second BKB down, both him and the Centaur, now 50 seconds.
They don't fancy their chances hitting high ground just yet.
I actually think they could just do that, but playing it safe, respecting game
allegiance potential to land a good combo onto the lifestealer, perhaps I'm
gonna get 25 now. So an extra second on rage. No, he took the other one. Interesting.
Do we ever see that almost? Am I very rarely? He's having trouble against
Largo Centaur I guess. I suppose.
What does that go from though?
What's the increase? I don't remember. We need to see him invest out first before
he can click it. I guess I'll check in the menu. I've always felt like it's pretty
underwhelming. It used to be considered one of the worst talents in the entire game for
it being a 25.
And nothing's changed though, right? I don't think so. Always one day.
So base feast is 3.25.
25% increase basically is a lower back wall, so basically everybody agg's backfire on top
bay trying to put somebody in his cart, but anything happening, both the nature's prophet
and Frogo are dead.
No buys.
This is minimum bare, bare minimum megas.
I mean, you would think so.
I'm going to find out very shortly that there are no buybacks for these two heroes, and then I'm just going to call it.
So, first game to extreme in this best of three elimination series here in the lower bracket.
Yeah, boats very well, the Beaks, the Game Religions, best archetype strategy.
So now it's back to the drawing board and see if they can come up with a solution now that that
Bit of a rough one
But Jin Q he powers on Cinder and he didn't have the greatest game, but they still win Richard
You make it
But no
Yeah, look, this is the thing with extreme gaming at this competition
I think sometimes they haven't been at their best, but it might be overall the best I've seen
extreme for a long long time and army is just
Propelling these guys through this tournament. He was very active early on which I really liked like he joined in some of these fight
Using the open wounds try to slow them down gives them just enough time to grab any kind of kill
They needed to be able to punch back as we said
They needed to have heroes that are going to be saying nope to whatever gamer legion aggression is going to be in the first 10 15 minutes
they were off the great start and
They also beat their best strategy pretty much with this nature's profit with this Dazzle bounty hunter
We're going to be running at you tempo style draft plus also this Largo mid that they brought it again
It looked good, but it also lost the game in the end
They had some maniac moves though, like that dive under the tier 2 tower with Largo.
That was a bit too much. I'm a very aggressive player, but even for my turn of the fight, what the fuck are you guys doing?
That was a classic game religion type move. You can tell that they're excited to be here and they're excited.
A little too excited.
Maybe a little too excited.
Happens to the best of them.
Yeah, it does. And with Xtreme, you mentioned it.
I think it was very important, uh, life stealer coming in even with like a collection fest and preventing gamer Legion from getting kills.
You don't even need to get return kills yourself. They did because of the dives that we talked about.
But even if you don't and you're just protecting someone from dying, often that can be enough in this situation where Xtreme has some insane team fighting and really good scaling going towards the late game.
late game. I love that we got to see J'Kyro Darkseer plus the Spearbreaker Darkseer combo.
Like the AoE in the late game was impossible to deal with and then with Aume and XM both
scaling as well. Like classic extreme gaming, we are going to just like out position you
and out fight you in the in the teamfights type win here.
I'll continue asking you the question. It might apply to you Dom. So jump in if it does.
The problem I've had with Xtreme in the past is they've seemed married to the style of
Arme go farm, we're going to do our thing as a four, don't turn up until you're ready,
Arme turns up when he's ready, he dies once or twice and they GG out the game.
That's accurate.
Yeah, and they haven't been doing that this tournament and I wanted to know if it was like
Like, is it provoked? Coming back?
Why has Army changed their style?
They literally did that in their very first game
at this tournament, but they haven't done it since.
He's been super active, and they're all the better for it.
I think it's a combination between him and XM.
I think XM's playstyle suits him better.
As a duo, Jinkyu is also back.
Zeal, like, we haven't seen much of him in the past.
Like, during the DPC, he was on some of the teams as well.
I think they played with him for a little while.
but I think it's the combination of the players,
because it seems like they have the same mentality,
but also upgraded in a way where, as we've seen,
like we've shown the graphic part of the series,
that they are playing faster,
and I think they finally understood
that they can't play this style of Dota,
so they are going to be picking slightly different heroes.
They try to go back to what wasn't really working for them
in the series that they played yesterday,
but today's draft, it was all about like,
we need just to survive,
because this is a super tempo draft
coming up from Gamer Legion and they were able to defend themselves.
I'm going to go back to Aume, because I relate to this guy.
You know, you see him in the interviews, he's staring dead into the camera.
He's soulless eyes.
He smiled the other day.
We are excited when he simply smiles.
I have the same problem.
I go on roller coasters.
I'm scared shitless.
And I have no emotion, because when I'm scared, that's what I do.
I just, I can't react to my girlfriend goes, why are you not enjoying yourself?
I'm like, I'm scared.
I'm having a great time or whatever.
So I get it from Amé and I agree with people that say that he's an emotional player.
I really think being in the right environment helps him a lot.
I really think that he needs to feel like he can trust his teammates and that his teammates are worth saving.
He needs to feel the momentum of his team.
And when they're having a good tournament, he looks like that.
Yatoro Lovell carry, like this game, he played pretty much flawlessly.
So I would just say he's an emotional guy more than he shows.
Okay.
Awesome.
Uh, we can take a look at some of the moments from the games to break it down for everybody at home.
Eight minutes.
A tower fight.
Yeah, this was the one where they were diving pretty heavily under the tower.
It's, uh, this is how they were supposed to play.
They needed to play super aggressive.
Like, I've seen so many times where they try to get the, uh, deny an XM because of Dazzle.
It never happened.
And the tomato here is gonna be picking up a double kill.
they are really pushing the limits of their heroes, very strong, very aggressive type of a draft that
it like you need to play it like this and so they did and there's going to be another fight
like literally a minute after where they are going to be playing the same thing but also
seeing that XG they are ready to like get stuff done, DPs are coming in, I got to say I've been
very impressed by Tobuka so far in XG, like we talked about the the fives, you know, we're gonna
come back to that later because I want to explain what's happening here. Where he shows up to a
fight, the XM, he's gonna be kind of sacrificed as well, and the Ames showing up, this is eight or
nine minutes, they want to be able to get something done. At the moment, RCY, he doesn't have a TP
available, he doesn't have mana to use the TP, so Ames coming in, Spiritbreaker, he's respawning,
They're bringing in numbers and this is where Boboka is going to be actually picking up the triple kill
And if you look at his items later on
He's going to be getting the guardian grease an item that usually we don't see but I also wanted to talk about Boboka as a player because
He was a former position four player
And I think it was very difficult to shine in Chinese region having these ex-novas
Tian Ming's wise
Etc these position five players and I think he found the role for himself that fits in really well
for them. Yeah, I agree. It also works out that a lot of the four positions of the past have kind
of intermingled with the five position role, like lots of Pahoodwink, we've even seen like Willow
four positions. So it feels like a lot more of a natural transition right now, but it's especially
impactful when you have somebody who is really good at laning, playing the five position, and they
can kind of apply some of the position four tactics that they learned to the five position role. It
looks really good. We saw some sketchy leaners yesterday but we can take a look at how this one
worked out. Yeah, pretty good by XM. Very, very good. I loved the build. He went for boots of
travel as his first item picked up Yul Scepter that he turned into Wind Waker later on and we're
going to be seeing how effective this is because this is not a traditional build. Like you can see
see that he still has a quelling blade to get out of the Sprout, but later on once you
run out of items, this is pretty much the only way to get out of the Sprout, unless
you want to be picking up some Hurricane Pike.
And this is the fight where they initiate on him and he immediately uses them, Wind Waker,
and so many times you can see these two three-man vacuums into Makrafire, into Ice Bat Spirit
Breaker Charge, this time around, like you see Aame.
At this point, they do have the lead, but he feels very, very confident playing these
longer fights and again XM is going to get another catch with that Wind Waker and he goes off full
down pretty much and then he manages to get another kill from this. Ami picks up a triple kill so
very very good item pick up here coming out from XM. Yeah I'm a little worried for Gamer Legion going
into game two because I agree with Cinderan and what we also feel is that this is their best strategy.
They play really really fast. They got the dazzle. At least they agree with Cinderan but never with
it's not much to look into
there's pretty obvious. There's
not much going on there. Um,
but they have to go back to the
drawing board. Maybe they just
repeat the same thing again and
play better. Less like crazy
dives. Maybe tomorrow go for
like a different build,
something like that. I could
see them kind of rinse and
repeating because at this point
coming up with something
completely new on the fly seems
really hard. But if any team's
going to do it, we've seen them
pull out some crazy draft. So
who knows? We are going to take
a break. Game Illegion will find themselves under extreme duress. We see if that changes
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it will recommend it to other people in the algorithm.
In the algorithm, yeah, turbo nerds.
But anyway, speaking of nerds,
we've got Vid's channel 182 in the chat.
Yes, that's you.
He said that by picking the logo,
you are underestimating Xtreme
and they shouldn't have done it.
And just obviously statistically,
I'll see why has played this four times now.
Only one wants a 25% win rate for those that dabble in.
Yeah, I also had to check his win rate so far in the career.
He played it seven times, sitting at 28% win rate.
I got a disagree with our boy in the chat.
I think they had a very well-run strategy that failed short.
I think the execution wasn't there, especially that dive
underneath the Tier 2 Tower bottom.
It was just like some maniac type of a move that's like, okay, well,
the rest of the team can't really connect. I think the trio played really well.
It was Bounty Hunter, Dazzle, and Largo.
They paired up and played together with the casual NP, keeping in Centaur,
continue to farm up. This is what the hero does.
He does have a global presence with the Stampede,
but you can see that it's very effective.
I might want to see him go back to the Spirit Vessel build,
Something that he did during EWC and I believe once at TI where you have that extra bit of a damage
Maybe he thought that they don't need it because you're not getting like the heal part of it
Because you already have dazzle most of the people will be full HP on the team anyway
But I love the aggressiveness of the item just to have that extra bit of a damage to make sure that you can continue like everybody's
Going to be full HP all the time and you just continue to dominate you have like the track vision
And an extra bit of a goal that you're getting so maybe maybe go back to that
I'm sure that he teary crafted the item build
He's pretty much the only one who plays the hero, but maybe I would like to see something different
Anything you want to say a big channel 182 Jenkins?
my only feeling is that if they had a spirit type hero if they could get something like that they could have really up the
tempo even more than
having the Largo something to
you know jump these heroes and turn the lead into even more
believe I'm not sure if they didn't have the logo if they
would have that sort of lead and the ability to turn it into
more of a lead. There's a real question there because I do
agree he played it very well. They were doing a lot in the
early game running around together and I think it was
more play mistakes and honestly to motto made a few mistakes
that game that were really big and when you're a carry your
mistakes are compounded by the fact that you have so much
net worth. You know, when they miss the kill onto Zeal when he tepied in and sprouted himself
and got himself stuck on the high ground, like that hurts. The bloodthorn build against all
the spells, potentially could have gone through some other item. These mistakes will play into
winning or losing the game when you are playing against a lineup like this. We are
in the top six of a major tournament against a second place TI team that is looking in form.
You cannot make any mistakes against them.
Yeah, all reasonable.
Yeah, it seems like they want to run it back.
They want to run the same strategy with the Bounty Hunter potentially.
One of the things that made the Bounty Hunter look good.
Yeah, it looks very good in his hands.
I want to see what the response is going to be,
because they need to be able, again, to have heroes who have damage,
Windrangers definitely going to help out with that one.
Some power shots early on, they feel very good.
This time around they banned out Spirit Breaker, which I think was one of the key heroes as well,
to make sure that they are connecting with the rest.
He did die quite a lot a few times, but he can't really get out of it.
Is this is Jin Q?
Potentially, yeah. I mean, for now they're going to be using it as a flex.
We've even seen Windrangers being flexed to the offlane.
Armae haven't played it yet this tournament. It will be his 12th hero if he plays it.
I love that they're just banning what they lost to in the last game.
Why not?
It's the classic.
The question is, how is extreme gaming going to approach the Dazzle plus the Nation's Profit situation?
If they feel...
They're actually not banning it.
Yeah, they're not banning it because I feel like at one point of the game, 13 minutes in,
Nation's Profit had 8.1 or 8.2k net worth.
He had the...
Oh, they take the bounce.
Yeah, I was thinking the same.
Let me finish the sentence. He had almost 3,000 more network than Lifestealer at that point, so they will take the Dazzle, they will split the combo, and now it's for Gamer Legion to decide whether they want to give the Nature's Prophet or they want to take it.
We saw this yesterday, and the response was, pick Spearbreaker anticipating the Nature's Prophet. It didn't work, and now Spearbreaker is not in the pool, even if they wanted to do that.
So now the question is, can you preemptively counter natures in such a way that it feels bad to pick?
Or is it worth it to just take the natures?
I'm just thinking, like in the previous game, Dazzle is causing so many issues.
You can't burst a hero, even with Lena.
He was having some really good graves, so he prolongs the teamfight for a really long time.
Axe is the one that can make these fights very short.
short. Then you have Axe plus Bounty Hunter. It's not the ideal lane, especially if you're
going to be playing it into Nature's Prophet, into Denzel.
You're already going to lose the lane anyway. Just get boots on BH, cut the wave, be okay
that Axe can jungle. I actually like the double melee against these ridiculous safe lanes because
you're resigning yourself to a 50-50, which is probably the best you're going to get anyway
if you were to simply lane normally.
Okay, I mean it's a hero that prevents physical damage against
what is probably going to be a mostly physical damage line-up, at least in the first three picks.
So I like that. Also, cursing Dazzle and, you know, turning some heroes onto the main body
body is always pretty important. How does it work if you curse the novel projection? It does not
work on the ghost, right? I would guess it doesn't. I'm gonna say that it does not work. I think it's
like invulnerable to everything. I miss, uh, I miss his previous, uh, you know, where you could, uh,
make the cooldowns. Oh, recursive. Yeah, recursive. That was that one. Yeah, that was good. It just
We were equally everybody now that was good like I've seen clubs where you killed three or four people with it
Yeah, you get three graves often of team five. It was just awesome. Oh, you mean the dazzle cool number duck
Yeah, yeah, I see. Yeah, that that one was that was insane
They were really experimenting with like what is dazzles identity at that point? Yeah, and then we ended up with this like novel projection
Which which I I don't know. I think that needs a real welcome mother father
this is just
No brainer. I would say you're playing against Dragonite. You're playing against Wyvern. You want to stop the healing coming out and
they will
Pick up nature's prophet, which means that this Windranger is gonna be played as a support
The good thing about it is you always have a guaranteed shackle inside the sprout
Very easily executed right now. They are lacking some stuns pretty much
should shackle at the moment, which is not the most reliable one.
Good news. So Tom, it means army is going to play a 12 hero still
hasn't played the mate.
She's I don't think
no, he did not.
My man just collecting a few if they don't give me those.
I assume
yeah, there's a still chance that they run this in the mid lane.
But against the Dragonite, it's not very effective.
Maybe it was a different to match up against some of these
range heroes these like invokers and such where you don't have ways of clearing the
treants. It can be very punishing but against the dragonite not as much.
That's an interesting pick. You know I like this as a response actually to extremes lineup because
it's a hero that doesn't care that much about doom. Sunder is one of three abilities that can
actually heal through it. I have something. Slark mid for XM.
Against dragonite. Yeah, he's really not afraid of any of these heroes. I think it's I think it's pretty good
I think it's pretty good for sure like XM. I mean XM last pick mid against a DK sounds like
This guy is in his problem is that he could also pick Viper
He could pick Slark his Lena mid
This is something that he got from pick talk this build like at TI or EWC
I think it was EWC that he talked about yeah, where he was picking up Dagon maxing it to level 5
getting extra bit of a cast range on it and just sapping people.
There's the Axe Band that we talked about. It would be very, very good.
There's still a Centaur that can come out for them again.
I feel like it could be very good in terms of what he brings against the Doom.
Just having that gap closing hero can build into different items if needed.
If you want to pick up the Lotus Orb, something that DM prioritizes and a lot of his builds when he placed the Centaur.
I feel like every time we've suggested in XM, Last Picuro, except for Slark, every time
we've suggested like the vipers of the world, he never does it.
They've just kind of used him for more regular stuff, like the pango and the earth spirits.
And now the Slark is out.
So if they want something that's going to dump through the DK mid, it's pretty much
It's got to be Viper now. Unless they want to just go with Pango, you can't Pango, not
into all the other ones.
It's not bad.
They're going to ban out Dawnbreaker even though they do have Doom, so once they connect
onto one target, a lot of the times this is the counter initiator, but it's a very good
hero in the lane against Nature's Prophet, gets out of Sprout for free.
And in the game too.
Yes.
TPing in, and we saw it in the previous game with the Spearbreaker. It's, when you're playing
nature's profit you would really like to not have an enemy global hero because then you always get that advantage
I was maybe thinking about this, but it's just a weak hero
Yeah, it did just get buffed, but this is one of the best heroes in Dota against nature's profit one of the highest winner at heroes
you can always get out of the sprout because of firefly and
Nature's profit on the map has to be so careful at not getting picked off by a bat rider
And it's a BKB piercing disabled so you can't BKB TP, right?
Yeah, you can also drag people away from Dazzle.
Any repositioning tool is always going to be good,
because his positioning needs to be top tier.
If he's trying to get the grave, he might get stunned by something.
This has got to be Viper, right?
Viper looks very juicy.
It's so good against Batrider in the game, because you can TP and Viper strike.
It never really feels that comfortable to go into Viper.
Your passive does so much damage to Bat.
I go with the storm. Okay, so I think they wanted to have the backline jump
bro. They were probably discussing the Viper that we also mentioned but then
you would give Freecast the Winter Vibrant because none of the heroes do
close the gap. This time around they do have relatively good global lineup. NP
keeping aim, Storm Spirit zipping from the distance. Problem is there is
relatively good vision coming up from Gamer Legion with this bounty hunter
win survivor and drink nighttime with the night vision. Yeah, bounty bat sounds like it could get
pretty nasty to motto just like farming the whole time. It's a very well rounded draft from
gamer league. I mean, they look happy day. You saw in your cameras, they're pretty pleased with what
they've got and what they're up against. I just questioned that on this patch ever since the
firefly nerfs. It does a lot less damage before you could farm like three camps with it at once
and pretty easily, you know, kill all of them. Now it feels like it's leaving camps at like
like 20, 30% HP.
So you have to get in a few more right clicks,
which means you're more susceptible to ganks.
You're taking a lot more time to farm those camps.
Before Batrider would just get items.
You'd click on them at 15 minutes
and he has like two ore items.
You're like, well, I guess it's GG, he has 2,500 HP.
But it just, it ain't like that anymore.
He needs a lot more levels.
It did just get buffed.
So I'm excited to see Fade try to make it work.
Excited for that Batrider for sure.
I think that they made the right adjustments.
What happened after game one,
they, their heroes got stolen pretty much.
Extreme gaming, their draft is good,
but I think we are going back to the type of a draft
that they were losing with, especially yesterday,
that they were losing with at TI, at EWC as well.
It can be speedy.
You are playing this 1000 lancest profit,
but I believe Gamer Legion found a way.
XM on a store spirit, Zeal on Doom,
like Zeal always plays this Doom
whenever there isn't anything else to play, he banks it out.
It is a good Doom game.
Their chase potential is also okay,
shoot the Windranger and Storm to be able to kill that hero.
I would give Extreme gaming like 55% in this game.
I like the draft way more than the previous one.
I'm not Storm in some minutes from right now.
I always like Storm in nades, because it just feels good.
It does.
It does.
Grab some 1, ETP in, you get the kill.
Yeah, Windranger, long range power shots.
There's some crazy gank potential from Extreme.
They can find the right pick offs.
They could snowball this, for sure.
Yeah, gotta agree with that one.
I also want to see how much RCY is going to be able to get from this lane.
This is the traditional Dragonite Storm Spirit type of scenario.
And with the Bounty Hunter rotations, maybe early on Wyvern as well.
I want to see if they can try to punish Storm.
What build do you expect?
It's just a Trans-Blink Dagger starter that will go for a BKB.
Storm oh, it's yeah, not out of storm. No, no, no, no on dragon. I'm TK
Yeah, I think you I think you'll do pretty normal stuff this game is cool because for both sides
It's all about the gang's who could find the pick offs and that that leads to some
Clowny Dota, which we love to see we've seen plenty of that so far
Yeah, we did over to you dumb over to me again, let's go I'm just the
I'm just thinking if they can pull this type of a strategy off gamer legion
I think this type of a strat needs a a little bit more cohesiveness compared to previous one
Even though the previous one was like very very good with the kind of three four plus one that when they were running at them
But yeah, we'll see all right that fill now enables me to go over to another nugget with nomad
Thank you, mr. Lewis. Yeah, I'm here legacy from a gamer legion
What do you feel like went wrong in that first game for you?
I think, well, they came up with a pretty decent idea. I think we should have won anyway.
We just didn't play well enough, over-pressed in some points. It's pretty much it.
Although we've cooked a little bit on the battlefield, it can happen.
But let's look in on game number two. It's a elimination game here for you basically.
And you're picking this Batrider here. We just haven't seen it at all at this tournament really.
You must have a lot of faith and faith to be able to go for this right now.
Yeah, I mean good answer just fade. I also don't think they're going to do the same thing with this combo as we do
So should be good
All right, and then how do you think that mid lane is gonna go? I mean I'll see why on the DK
You know he's playing these sticky heroes. Is that something you're happy playing with and I don't know
It's gonna be like mostly a wash. I think no biggie. I just hope we
Forget to apply more tempo this game
All right, let's see if you can do it. Good luck in this game. Number two. Let's end over to our casters of Sunsman and Cinder
Thank you. No, Matt
Game to gamer Legion need to win to stay alive
Otherwise, they are out of this tournament
Extreme when they look pretty good in that game one definitely a much different line of mouth
They've actually stolen the dazzle away from poor speed
That's to play the wife in this time
but I think the hero of the game is definitely Batrider.
You have to see it.
Very surprised to see that hero.
Just hasn't been that great for a little while now,
but it's an interesting game to run it in.
This lane matchup, historically,
this would be a god-like lane for Bat.
When off-lane Bat was actually good,
dazzle, profit, you just firefly,
sticky napalm and dive them with the bounty,
but after a lot of numbers changes,
it isn't as simple anymore.
But I'm curious, this is one of those types of lanes that we have so little tape on that's kind of hard to say with confidence what the expected outcome is.
So we'll kind of just have to wait and see if the plays speak for themselves here.
Big damage between the Trance and Dazzle here, of course, on to Fade.
But it's a pretty big pivot for both teams from Game 1.
Completely different strategies.
Happy to see Ammo on profit.
I've talked about this before.
I think when he plays heroes that are inclined and have incentive to be more active
I think he generally tends to do it. He doesn't just fall into automatically. Oh, I'm hard carry. I will only farm
We even saw last game of life. So he got a little bit more involved than traditionally
So yeah seems like something they've talked about as a team or that he has come to realize that that's an adjustment
He's to make this play and it's good to see because that's one of those things
I feel like Ami and the region in general has been so stubborn about it's rather like traditional view
on the way to play carry and maybe not fully keeping up with the times and what's clicking for other top teams.
I'm curious to see if he can accelerate the game on profit for his team.
All it took was what, seven TI's in a row, no Chinese TI winners to finally get the picture?
Yeah, it's good to see. Like I said, even with the lifestealer, he teepied like three times, I want to say,
within the laning stage to help out. That was very unal my like.
Yeah.
And if your game are legion on the other hand, well,
Tomato is playing a more traditional Aame hero
in the Terriblade, which can't really get too involved.
So you get a few items at least.
It's a pretty decent Terriblade game though, if he gets the items,
if he gets farmed enough.
One of the heroes that profit just can't really overpower.
Um, you decent against Doom, it kind of goes both ways.
If you get Doom, it's obviously terrible, but you, again,
You get so damn hard in fights that you can overpower him too very quickly.
The strong matchup is a bit of a more interesting one. I think this is a really good storm game.
The only real threats to you are Dragon Tail and Lasso, which you can choose to buy Lincoln's against later in the game.
You're very good at jumping and catching bounty hunter, which is what they did last game with Spiritbreaker.
Now they have a different hero that can do it in centuries, and it's a nightmare matchup for Wyvern.
Wyvern hates playing against heroes that get on top of you and are super mobile because you can't really use Curse.
You can't really use Curl and Brace that effectively either.
So heroes like Earth Spirit, Ember, Storm Spirit, all the spirits.
That matchups for speed here.
And Zeal playing the Doom, which he's played a lot of in the past.
Does this feel like a particularly good Doom game? I mean, not being able to heal on a DK with Wyvern on the lineup?
It's alright.
It's more comfort than great pick, I would say.
It's fine.
Already established that the Terribli matchup isn't the greatest, so the top lane should probably not be a win for him.
Pressure onto Fade here is actually going to hurt a lot.
Okay, the trance did not really get the right angle in that sprout, so less damage than expected.
And big them again playing that bounty hunter. So game one, I mean he was able to create some good pressure early on but
Kind of like the coach was alluding to they
Support the shadow lives gonna heal the RC Y gets the first blood solo kill for him
Will be a trade in the end, but no XP going away of
XM this is a very unexpected kill. This is not generally a lane that either hero dies in without rotation
RCY finds a way, and the trade is obviously heavily in his favor with two enemy supports TPing in mid.
The downside is, he is losing a couple of creeps here.
That's not all that much.
I think you'll take it.
This is mainly going to be Storm losing here.
I'm surprised that JinQ took all of those creeps instead of trying to reposition the lane for his Storm.
Bounty Hunter being annoying, leeching experience, getting information if they want to dive him.
dive him. If they kill him again here, this is huge. Dragon form up and running, Bounty
getting information with this Observe Award. Looks like Buboka is making a read that well
Bounty isn't bottom yet, he's already placed the sentry. Trying to cover XM against potential
threat. It's a very natural move to make here for Bounty. DK hits six, you want to kill
and take the tower, so they're expecting it.
More pressure, and again, we'll show himself eventually, it's not going to turn to a kill,
it's RCY taking a big shadow wave.
Down to half health.
As a six minute rune comes to be, but it is denied, and RCY is going to try to get some
revenge, but Volka keeps him at bay.
couple pokes to the tier one tower. Good damage overall.
It's just dumb bottom respecting the bad regis laning presence. He's just going to jump
over on the product. Despite having the dragon form big enough. Very aggressive, gets pulled
in braze, but that's just going to set up the static remnant.
Little reminiscent of game one. Some overplays. It's like they've had this talk before this
series that the way we beat this team is by pressuring them really hard which I
would agree with is the best strategy against extreme in general but you know
there's a fine line between aggression and just recklessness and that was
definitely this the latter it's gonna get harder now I was about to hit level
six so means there's a lot more counter play
Wrath of Nature unlocked.
Okay, working on the drums, we'll be able to get his level 6 here with this shrine.
This deck being applied to Tamado, I'm going to try to turn this shrine onto Zeal though.
Level 4, nice shackle, and then Wrath of Nature finishes the job.
I'm going to join him with the teleportation, and this is going to be a third kill for Extreme.
extreme at the tower, yeah that's, this is a pretty big early lead, they managed to take
the safe lane tower with this, they activate the natus profit, they get the successful
kills, lose nothing, now you're going to be running around this map as a level 3 bounty
hunter and level 4 wyvern, going to be a tough time, I mean the shrine was taken by gamer
legion but it had to be the bat rider to get his level 6, so one of the bounty hunters
really suffers
See how fast fade can actually get involved in this game guessing the drums will
Be the point in which he gets a little bit more aggressive
Yep, definitely is the big wild card of the game
Notice Cardi the courier is very popular with pro players
I know I do. I can see it every game. Well we do cast a lot of gamer leaders. Not just them.
Whatever Courier Baboka has, I've not seen that one before. Down by the bottom tier two,
it's like icy dragon. It's kind of cool. That's the bottom tier one.
Alright, really testing the observers here. Where is the bottom two or two? Where could it be?
Alright, well, looks like we might be looking for kills and stuff. That's understandable. Who cares about curators anyway? We care about Zeal.
Yes, he does have his double six. We'll get it onto the bat right here. We get shackled and killed. Zeal, he's burning away.
We'll get healed in the last moment in that big dump on the run as the brief fire finishes the job on the doom as RCY.
Why a pretty precarious spot if they can just get us slowly might be able to catch up, but I'll go for anything
Oh offlane big num barely survives the power shot. That's just a random guess
You don't have a vision there do they he was I don't think he was dusted either. Oh, all right, nice try from TQ. That would be crazy
Easy.
Mid lane.
Right.
Four.
Nice kill.
Class O as well.
They got a stun lock onto XM.
Big kill for Gamer Legion.
They needed that.
Yeah.
This early blig digger on D.K.
They're a greater sender.
Now you are looking.
Nope.
We got good synergy going on here.
Do you want to see Orcith on him, Sinterim?
Um, I don't know, any hunter.
Alachim XM dips in with the electric vortex, they blow up Vakim who is level 4.
Yeah, he's going to have a rough one here for a bit.
It's hard to find level 6 in this game until minute 14, and even that might not be enough
if he doesn't get involved in a kill or two.
He's a very, very late 6.
I mean Orchid is definitely decent, considering you're playing against Batrider and Wyvern,
but I think I would honestly just rather see Automate just go hard carry style.
Try to overpower.
Do your best to buy items so you can be competitive with the Terrorblade.
If you can stay on item ahead, you might even be able to kill him.
So I wouldn't mind seeing something like Mjolnir into Pike, maybe something like Scotty or
Daedalus.
Play some of the best high power stat strategy.
We'll see.
Why is there a random manapod there?
That's a Clarity shiner.
Is that somehow different than a manapod?
Yeah.
It is.
It is.
Potion implies that you get the benefit instantly unless you're playing very specific games.
Most potions in video games are immediate relief.
You're saying you've never heard anybody call that a manapod?
Call Clarity.
Call it what it is.
Interesting. Interesting hill to die on.
Well, I'm alive still.
That's all you say.
Bignum looking for couriers. Doesn't seem like he has much else to do.
I think he'll maybe kill a storm courier here.
Early witchblade here for XM. Not completed yet, but it's the direction he's headed.
Hunter big no came century yeah scouting him out this is info for Baboka
12 minutes and he's still level four he's under a new century now now he's
trusted and now he's dead
300 gold okay that's more than a creep yeah that's good news for extreme 3k
lead now looking like a potential stomp in the making here.
I will see there's still some key items yet to come for the dire line up when
Fabe gets blink dagger it unlocks some more plays but it is worth keeping in
mind your 3k down and your DK is blink and your better is going blink so in the
way of just overall strength of items there's going to be more stats on the
The Radiant Heroes, as none of them are buying daggers since they don't need to, courtesy
of Storm Spirit and Shackle Shots, they have ways of setting up moves.
And Zeal is feeling himself.
He's going Radiant this game.
I feel like this is not his standard go-to.
Mostly seeing him with the drums built up on Doom.
But, comfortable.
It's going to work out quite well, it feels like.
Hydrated.
Get his element.
Good.
Alright.
Game religion.
Looking for a play now.
Still only level 5 unbounded.
113.5 minutes in and he's not even close to 6.
Just barely cracked 5.
Where's that 14 minute wisdom?
Yeah.
Might go and try to steal the enemy one.
They're not going to find anything with this smoke as it looks.
It'll be worth it just to get that shrine I feel like.
Extreme.
I'm not going to let them have it without a fight.
Zeal. Oh, they are actually. They're going mid instead.
Ignite! Oh, it gets dusted! Oh dear, this adds insult to engine and bothers dooming.
Oh, they get the wrath of nature. Okay, they will.
Alright, as we get quite in the mid lane as well, GQ gonna get saved.
Focus fire into the shackle. Power chop misses.
I see why. Can't be more than healthy.
Alright, when do you think Bounty's getting 6?
This is really bad. I mean, did they get their shrine?
It's untaken, I think.
Okay, well that would help.
I don't think- is that enough for 6? 500 XP?
I mean, it's not enough.
Yeah, almost. It's almost enough.
Imagine if Extreme stole that one.
feel no longer with them
well
juke's by accident
now we'll get dragon tail
that's 1,300 gold
this is safe to relic we'll lose a couple hundred here
so it could kill some game religion
yeah that's gonna be 6 for big man though with the wisdom being claimed by bad
so track online
there it is
big plays
XM about to finish his witchblade very shortly.
They're going for XM, he's going to get dragged until the fireball on top, Jax is there to
finish off Pignum.
XM is going to play it a little bit safe.
Such a nice way to kill the bounty hunter to see Jinkyu dropping the distiller and if
it clips, jump in with a storm.
Knowing he has the protection of Dazzle behind him, you can play a lot more aggressive than
you usually would on XM this game.
Courtesy of the additional cast range with Nothill projection.
Correct.
You can say it normally, I'm just making place just once.
I'll take it.
Sounds far for the course to be honest, that rider.
Still farming up Xim? Getting eyes on it though. Might want to try to steal a little bit of this, doesn't look like he'll be able to.
That zeal will die again, they've got it out for him up top, he's not going to get this radiance at this rate.
I mean, he's going to get it at some point.
Okay, thank you very much for the clarification.
Well, mid tower is gone.
But yeah, I think they recognize he has his talisman.
If we just gank him over and over, it's going to make the Radiance feel very worthless.
And I also, I don't know.
I don't know if I really like it for their lineup and for who he is as a player.
I understand that they were having a good start and they were probably like, yeah, I
can get away with it, but...
I'm actually going to say who he is as a person.
What kind of person buys Radiance, do you think?
What's their zodiac sign?
Um, greed.
Is that a zodiac sign?
No.
Okay.
But the fact that you had to ask means your question was not great, because you didn't
even know what the viable answer is.
Why?
I did.
Oh, why did you ask that?
Oh, gosh, this is so tiring.
Yep.
Ask better questions.
Jesus.
I'm really sorry you're having a rough day.
I'll try to make it better how about that and let's see
Yes, that's good. That's a good start. I didn't even put a smile on your face. It's tough. It's hard thing
Nobody's here to say need so the dragon tail from RC white in human form pretty much impossible to dodge yep
Easy pick and maybe tower on the menu here
I see like Lincoln's it will be an excellent choice at some point of the game for XM. Yeah, it's it's both good and bad
It's really good against DK bat, but it can also be propped from really far away by bounty. So
True
I'll be now and just getting caught left right in center right now on extreme
So back back four kills for game religion. They're back in the game. Yeah, absolutely
The BKB on the horizon for RCY link up for speed
And going back to this Doom build, the problem with this is now
if Aame and XM need to get items to be able to really fight,
you can't even lean on the Doom to, you know, take some initiative and get in there and start a fight.
You don't have drums blink, so he is stuck hitting creeps for quite a bit with this Radiance build,
which is usually what you, you know, a lot of the times when you go this build, you don't mind that.
Like, you're happy to just farm if the enemy team lets you, it's all good,
It's all good, but against bounty hunter bad rider
They are going to be running at you and you don't have as much punch back as you did last game courtesy of this build
so
Can't say I love it the boots of bearing for fade
Okay, a little smoke here is three
the Boca XM and Jin Q
Looking for a terror blade will not find a terror blade
good movement from Tomato, leaves an image behind and heads up to his team.
Even Zeal now for Tomato, along with Samantha?
Not to be mistaken for Doom, Zeal, the other guy.
Of course.
See why I spotted Blinks though.
And there's the Radiance, so Zeal can start farming now.
Yeah. Marvelous.
I think it'll pay off, honestly.
It could.
this is probably like three minutes later than he would have wanted but there's
different ways to win a game obviously but now they're gonna try to form again
maybe they see the word spotted though
extreme a little bit less aggressive in the last few minutes I have to say yeah
They have Storm, they have the Nature's Prophet Dazzle?
Like yeah, your Doom is playing greedy but
I don't think you necessarily need him to get some of these kills.
Now you've kinda let Gamer Legion back in the game.
R.C.Y.
That's a BKB so it's gonna be really hard to get through now.
Yeah, it's looking quite promising for Gamer Legion.
They can keep their composure
Just avoid the problems of last game with overplaying their hand.
This time around their late game is, I would say, just better than it was previous game.
I think it's going to be more inherently obvious to get the right items as well on Terrablade.
Profit last game had a bit of a choice to make, and with how it played out, obviously regretted his item build.
I think in this one, it's clear cut standard build for Terrablade.
Scotty, Pike, Daedalus probably.
Just get big butterfly perhaps to motto receiving a monofotion from his carrier.
There you go, now your day is better.
That's nice.
Where did it even come from?
Your hatred for mana pot.
That's not a hatred, it's a big word.
That's not well.
It's just on your mind.
It's called a clarity.
It's right there on it.
Okay, it's called SAF.
Call it that as well.
Bokeh, blasts Oda.
Check that if you have 3B.
Not get the grave on Ami.
Watch the fight though.
Get the scrunch on the speed.
The curse comes out.
A lot of solo target though.
Taking a lot of damage to the creeps,
but we'll survive.
Two for one special.
Extreme's favorite.
I never hear you calling it a healing potion.
Maybe you should start doing that.
Okay, I can.
I mean, it's nice to have multiple names for something, you know?
Like for you, Cinderan or Moron?
I mean, I was actually thinking Moron for you as well before you started.
Okay, well, we'll share the same name, Doom, to the Dragon Knight of ATV Zen,
trying to rightfully do the DK, taking some damage from Dayville.
Look at that damage coming out from the terrible late Tamato, just crushes everybody.
They...
And the Doom will not be the end of RCY.
They did not think there was backup there
They thought RCY was alone. They went for it. Obviously would have worked if not both of that and terribly we're near
That's gonna cost them dearly
Maybe the most important fight of the game so far. That was really bad profit plus doom
Another delay onto zeal
Maybe this is why Ami just started farming as a player
Like whenever your guys make moves just always goes wrong, you know
From Zeal's perspective, there's nobody else here, and then all of a sudden, terribly comes through the gate.
Nice.
Almost coincidental situation to be honest, but Gamer Legion take full advantage.
Now they are looking quite good.
The Scotty is almost complete actually.
This is extremely nice right now.
They both got an XM and a T-Muff, take out Vietnam, but Maid and RCY through the gate.
They get the kill and they get the last one now on the XM, burning really low, zips away,
attempted TP.
Oh my god, you made it.
gets out. That's as close as it gets right there. That was super heads up from Baboka.
He was about to die. Gets the grave off last moment onto storm and he needed every little
second he could buy him there to get out of that one. He finishes his St. Chia now as
a result. Interesting, RCY going for a Lincoln, so it doesn't want to get doomed. But your
Vortex, I mean they have a lot of singletorium stuff, kind of an issue, RC1.
It's opened up on the stun immediately on the XF now, the focus fire.
I'm ganking, not going to do too much, babe.
Got another stun with this game from now, getting forced out to the low ground.
Like you'll be able to walk away, so no casualties here.
Only BKB charge, that's not too bad for Gamer Legion.
How does Rath of Nature work against Lincolns?
If you target him, you break it, but he needs to do the primary target, and then it doesn't bounce, so it's the entire... I'm pretty sure it doesn't bounce.
I disagree with that.
Okay, I could be wrong.
I feel like it's similar to Omni Slash type, where you just miss the first one.
Something just tells me...
The Omni Slash gets blocked.
That has also changed over time.
Is it used to not block?
It used to fully block and then it only blocks the first hit or something and then it's been through chain like iterations
I think profits just dies
The motto is doing all the damage, but now the damage is upon hand. Huge pick off from extreme speed
Will follow suit as well. Double kill for Ame
Very back and forth game, but kind of in a sloppy way
Yeah
That's what Lacoste and Jenkins were predicting. They were right. Both teams are
gonna be looking for picks and it's gonna be messy. The soccer player? No. I was
also thinking about that but neither of us had a good joke so that's unlucky.
Not on my A game today but that's okay. Neither are the players. Am I right, Shannon?
It's entertaining to watch the army and to see the next one to die.
Jinkyu on the way, but Lasso ensures his fate.
All right, so... Speaking of messy dice to a fireball.
So now that he had... Kind of like football.
Okay, yeah. All right.
Short. What's short?
God, that was bad.
Yeah.
I was like, it was so bad that I'm embarrassed for you and I just want to talk about it.
You're embarrassed. Okay, that's good.
Well, you know I can't be embarrassed.
Yeah, I was about to say you Belgian public and I'm like I'm embarrassed or you're like I can't feel it
Yeah, that's true, that's fair. I was probably
In the game or Legion yeah, you're actually gonna contest me or not, right? They're scouting in doom is top
They've no problem. I'm a cheapy doom. They're trying for it. Just gonna try for a steal. Maybe it's too low now
I'm so lowing the Roche instead, XM. I'm gonna go for a big zip.
Yeah, this is just not gonna happen.
He gets the Aegis in the end.
Uh, Zeal?
Okay.
Alright, we'll use Doom on the Batrider who's very speedy.
What is this?
Zeal.
Now, he's isolated now. He'll easily be killed off.
Yeah, it feels like we've been seeing this at the tournament from extreme at times.
That just felt pointless. It was almost disrespectful to try to contest that Roche.
Like, if you're missing your carry, you have no vision, the enemy team has Batrider Bounty, they're gonna jump you if you try to approach.
There's just no way.
Could have given them the Roshan at least farmed for 30-40 seconds.
So yeah, Lincoln's up. We'll see how effective this ends up being XM.
Focus on speed, gets off this curse, but again, just a solo target for Ame.
Well, Tamato...
Okay, we're gonna get the Dragon Tail off the Storm Spirit.
The Grave is gonna save him though, XM.
He should be able to live with the Zip, just barely, though.
Provoked he can be hounded by Illusion Seer, Tamato.
That's life number one. XM jumps back in.
He'll typically low on HP.
He gets the Sprout, now the Fireball's right on top.
They're gonna get the Stunglock on the Storm Spirit again.
It seems that the Grave at the last moment,
XM still living through it, they're gonna kill off Tamato.
and somehow XM will survive.
Now the pressure onto the doom,
but they're gonna be able to turn this around into RCY
and it's a complete disaster for Gamer Legion.
They lose four...
Man, they're getting value out of this dazzle.
That's crazy.
Boca owned up that fight.
So many saves, 2,000 healing.
A big difference maker here at Gamer Legion.
They might have to find a way to get on top of him
and the fight to make that the priority,
because it feels like their cores have two health bars
in these fights. Dazzle the walking ages. See the start to this here, speed
arguably just a bit out of position here just too far forward and this just
becomes a cascading effect. Grave number one, let's count graves. So one, clean
save, big heal, survives the terribly delusions as well on the left there. See
what the heal, which is very important because he's going to come back to do it
Again, onto an XM for a secondary key grave in a moment here with the Nothal projection, so that's number two.
Look, he's just being raided in bodies, he still gets the grave off perfectly timed.
Survives again, and then they kill the DK. Big, big fight for SG.
When you say count the X, usually it's more than two.
It was a challenge for you.
I actually had to do it for you.
Very patronizing.
Yeah, tell me I'm wrong.
You're wrong.
Scotty for Ami.
And now the link is for XM, so it's going to be a lot tougher,
especially with how hectic these fights are to keep track of these linkings.
Yeah, I like this build a lot from Ami.
I'm not sure about the Hydra's Breath over Daedalus.
It is nice to have the magic damage against Airblade, I suppose, and DK is pretty tanky, so maybe it's just better here, actually, given these two match-ups.
Already have the dragon lines. There is a lot of values having Pyke against DK-TB, though. That is what you're sacrificing.
By going this route.
Smoke up from extreme.
So, Linkin's on Storm, Doom has, Linky can be Radiance.
And correct me if I'm wrong, Tormentor wasn't taking this game, right?
No.
Really cool to siege and Q by Galeforce.
I feel like this is so underrated in the pro scene on support wins, but he likes it.
And by extension, I like him.
I like him too.
Oh, she was my friend.
Hmm. Oh, she was my friend too.
We can both do better.
Yeah.
Top tower under siege, will they deny it?
No. Teams really don't like denying towers, I've noticed. I don't know why. It's, I mean,
I suppose you can get a tiny little bit of information at some point up at that top tower, but
anyway.
Potential connection point for a play talk.
Rasmus X for XS, still a ways away though.
And Brazil is working on Shiva's.
Yep.
Very little build variety on this hero.
Even the game that was played position one by Wittes, he still bought the same items.
I feel like that's user error though.
variety on doom is whether you buy radiance or not that's pretty much it
it's like you go radiance and then you still buy the same stuff as you would if
you have drums yeah I don't buy it though yeah you don't play doom not
literally I don't I don't subscribe to the fact that the correct way to go about
it very very good sending them there
smoke will break, glimmer, he can speed alive for now, but not now, he'll die, well, well,
Yeah, they're a loose definition of now, but he does that don't die
That's that's the word between dozen did he does that
It incorporate that into your normal vernacular I
Would enjoy that thoroughly
Another link it's all right, so did not opt
Actually, I don't remember what he was going for, but I switched it up slightly to go for the Lincolns.
Overall, three Lincolns in the game so far, will we see more?
And the usual question is, how long will these matter? And the answer is, until Doom gets X.
X, Doom against DK, you also break Wyrm's Wrath, you just...
You take him out of play a lot.
You break his passive, so he loses bonus HP and armor, or HP regen, like this.
His innate.
I'm with the Hydra's Breath now going for a battle, or excuse me, not battle fury, that would have been funny though.
Butterfly.
Against DK, Terrablade, I can see it.
Axe out. Not able to get the anti-damage rune. RC-Y picks it up. We can speed prog to get the lasso.
Do we have another stun on top of it with the big num bounty hunter? Absolutely huge kill. That was a 5x kill streak ended.
Looks like Boboka was not in range that time.
If only he had global range.
Yeah, might make the hero be picked more. What do you think?
Probably.
And he's gonna pay the price for nothing near Axe out.
Do you remember Dota 1 when Shallow Grave was his ult?
You would lose less gold when you died.
He would choose someone for Shallow Grave and it would last until that hero died.
And then when they died they would lose less gold and respawn faster.
Oh, I think it was very strong.
I just remember you're obsessed with the most boring ult of all time, which is Weave.
I'm pretty sure you would be surprised how many people like that.
I would be. Yeah, it doesn't exist.
Oh! Hello.
Well, three deaths for extreme.
extreme space, which means you have options.
You can go for a smoke, try to catch them when they move out
on the map.
You can start controlling the Roche area, placing down
vision, which seems to be the main idea here for
game religion, looking at how the supports are moving, just
looking to control that area.
This is one of the strengths of Terribleight, pushing out
like this with minimal risk.
But conversely, also one of the strengths of Prophet is that
you can deal with it and then you can still join the fights if you need favor late game
I think it's kind of close
eventually doom storm becomes extremely obnoxious though
the aoe doom plus aoe pull can just finish a game if you catch two or three heroes in
it which is not out of the question definitely not out of the question here
if you're able to get a barric for extreme then you have nature's profit to always threaten
Yep
Roaches up
Army has satanic changed his mind
So six slotted now
Open things up on to the bounty hunter then isolated gets the first half of the low ground on now
The dragon tail right on top of the runner and you keep getting burned off, but Jack comes out
Mike Kent's popped.
R.C.Y.
I'm not interested in chasing through though.
Bloodthorn for Tamato now.
So each respective carry just getting
powerhouse item after powerhouse item.
Smokes.
I think this will turn into a big fight.
Pick up.
Again, light and foretakes opening.
I can't finish the job with the dragon tail right now.
the gray of the time at 60 seconds without the bokeh.
And Amai standing around with the right click,
doing a decent amount, takes out most of the illusions
of Tomato who's now focusing on Zeal.
Still, I'm able to find a connection for him.
He'd use the Doom actually, but to no avail really.
I think the DK just walking it off.
Yep, that's not bad.
For the side of game religion, you trade supports,
but a key cooldown unavailable now
may be Roshan becomes a possibility.
You have used Meta though, if you want to get it,
Now's the time.
Well, maybe try to bait him, but he still makes his way out.
XM.
He'll be able to finish the Parasme here relatively shortly,
unless he wants to just opt for the BKB.
Yeah, there's the...
The erosion temper game religion.
He will belch and reveal that he is being taken.
A lot of now he's melee-formed.
Scouting them out.
This is actually really nicely plowed by XG walking over and then backing off, wasting their time.
He had like four heroes pulling toward Ami, and that Guild Force gets no kills for it, though.
They prevent the ropes, so a successful defense from Extraternal Constable byback on the GenQ.
Can they get it themselves, though, is the question.
Otherwise, it doesn't really matter all that much.
They will have bought themselves the time to almost have Doom again.
Now he has congregations of the Deep as well, so a nice A. Lee stun.
on. Oh, Gamer Legion are going to try that. No way man, he's going to roar again and you
don't have... okay, I'll see. It's bold. It's something.
They're looking for an opening with the Doom just right. They get the Convocation from
the deep of the three heroes. Come on, let's try right this way. You can see the Graves
saving the Storm Spirit, but they lose the Terror Blade. Triple kill for Ame. That was
a disgusting initiation from Zeal. The Doom applies to the Batrider, and a double buyback
from Gamer Legion. And Rosh is gonna swap sides. This is gonna get really weird. But
Tommado's dead for 65 seconds. No, it gets thrown into the river. Rosh is pissed. Oh
yeah, he's not happy. Everybody's just walking parallel to each other. To the pit. There's
a dragon still with the fireball, but obviously he's super sick. Zealike gets with the congregations
to the deep onto 2, B, getting extremely low.
Impulsion glimmer. All these on the course.
They can't chase though, or they can't turn around at all.
They try to delay this as much as possible for Tamano.
Crucial glimmer on to Fade, otherwise he dies to Profitility there.
Now they get out with no casualties still though.
Feels like this Roche will be going to extreme.
Say that.
Looks like RCY hasn't fully given up on the idea yet.
Bag in form.
You think it's going to be too late now, although...
Yeah, it's really RCY.
Ah, may pick some of the ages.
RCY is taking it's shackle.
The Infernal Blade is one of the four steps of the high ground.
Another convocation's up to deep from Zeal.
Going to get Graves to stay alive.
RCY is going to have to BKB in retreat.
Tomano is back up.
We actually continue.
Mercy, why didn't he get glimmer? Just save the dragon and finally tomorrow TP's in.
Now you have the blue hole to worry about XM with Axe. That is huge.
Doom is about 1500 away from his Axe as well and then all hell is going to break loose, literally.
When we've seen this build from Ame, the Hydra's breath has actually done a lot of work killing
off the terribly delusions seems to be an excellent solution to that problem this game
as long as he gets to stand and deliver which for the most part he's been able to oh he's
going to change it up here disperser all right but he takes off track sticky napalm
a lot of wiring slows reflection I guess there's a lot of stuff to dispel and of course being able
being able to use them, teammates being able to chase down, perhaps?
This is shaping up to be a really epic late game.
Two hard carries with ridiculous farm look at that win probability.
I love to see it starting to feel more extreme favor though than that with these key items.
The goal is one thing but you gotta look at what it's being spent on.
4k lead, understandable why the graph isn't swinging either way really but these aggs are
huge.
Not sure where they can be, they have timings on them.
What timings though?
This is a really good Tormentor, by the way. It's guaranteed to go to XM. I was going to
say, is he going to buy this? But no. They get the Tormi, guaranteed to him. That's a
lot of extra damage now. Not super far from 25 as well. And on top of that, he's relatively
close to the BKB. There's the Doom Axe. You have Aegis, Doom,
and Storm Axe. This is such a hard fight for Game of Legion. It's very important that they
have good formation. And ideally, Bounty Hunter breaks the smoke and dies. That might actually
to be the best thing that can happen here.
Looks like it could be RCY getting caught, though.
Oh, quick reaction.
Electric Warthogs is already used, actually.
Didn't hit anything.
Good blink out from RCY.
There you get a combination of these with a triple AoE do.
Tomorrow's not far in the midst of the AoE.
Do they have a right click damage to burn through
before the stunner comes out?
Gonna get some time, thanks to the curse,
he gets to the high ground,
but at the top of the map,
I have to pump the BKB, RCY now, Dragon Tail.
So trying to break Ami back into the enemy area.
It looks like he's gonna get bursted one time.
So Aegis down already,
goes to BKB in his inventory.
We'll have to pop it here, it gets playbroken.
This is a high enough, it gets suffered.
There's the great, the last moment.
Now here's the safe, and it's time to break the queen.
Again, a combination of the deep,
some models, again, huge kill from Extreme.
So they're gonna fight free off the back of that.
And now just two members alive for Gamer Legion.
And that might do it for this series.
What a disgusting fight again.
These sick ass initiations from Zeal.
Man, the shallow graves, again.
Ironically, this is one of Gamerleaf's best fives, and they keep falling for it.
They keep thinking they have what it takes to kill this hero in the last second save from Baboka over and over and over again.
Shallow Grave Satanic is such a vile combo, because not only are you keeping the hero alive, you're actually giving him a full health bar instead of just like 500.
So Ami had two Aegis there. Let's kill him three times, yeah.
This is megas. Extreme our tanking speed for bringing gas back onto the scene. They will take this game
and beat them with it, it seems. 30 seconds. 15k lead, two sets of barracks and they have time to get the megas.
Flying it ultra safe. RC wide. They're gonna pop that fortification. 20 seconds for tomato.
Maybe not enough time to get megas. And at least get the tower.
I'm going to try and find some space.
Jill's going to get the congregations I get onto the DK at half health.
And they focus the buildings on time.
The lasso, though, will put the doom in a preparious spot.
Looks like he'll be the sacrifice of the team.
That and the grave, apparently. Attempting to TP out.
It looks like they're arguing to get the man-creeps.
So they get away with murder.
They cancel out the TP, though, so Zeal does fall.
If that's all they can get, that is not good enough.
I'm not good enough, I have a nice fall away. No way to stop him.
An XM.
They only lose to Doom.
Out as well.
That's very elegant and played to be honest.
I feel like somebody had to go in front there to prevent the side of Gamer Legion from getting a fight out of that
and that is going to be Zeal. They're throwing his body at getting the team.
He was only 10 seconds away from Doom. I think it was very tempting there to just wait a bit and get your ulti back up.
But he recognizes if I make space just for 5 to 10 seconds we will get Megas.
I want to know what the win rate of a team is with mega creeps?
And what it's win rate of a team with mega creeps and nature's profit is?
There's a difference.
I don't know if I've ever seen it lose.
It's... there's not a better hero in the game, right? Surely.
I don't know, maybe Longerith.
I don't know, maybe.
I guess.
Cassius' BKB in retreat here is about to hit 25.
That's what he wanted to try to find in the jungle.
Lincoln's on Windranger, so more difficulty for Game of Legion heroes.
All about just maintaining buybacks for Xtreme, and there's very little wiggle room for Game of Legion.
Trying to claw their way back into this game.
Axe on Bat. Could be a thing if he gets a double lasso, which one of them is Dazzle. That's the dream, but it seems pretty unlikely.
Yeah.
How do you think the bat looked at this game?
It wasn't too bad.
No, it was pretty good, I think.
It's not really...
As far as I'm concerned, this is not really a drafting issue.
I think they just got outplayed in key moments,
which is, you know, an honest loss.
It's...
They're obviously going to be disappointed and frustrated
that a couple of those moments didn't go their way,
But it was not easy to make the right judgement calls in every situation.
It was hard to find a footing when the bounty was level 3 so long.
Yeah, if they could have somehow got off to a better start on bounty in particular, it might have helped them a lot.
Aimee trying to get E.
Agh's blessing, he already has the shard. Moon Shard, that is.
They'll be waiting for Roche as well.
No reason to risk it.
I
Okay with four came to think everybody's super rich on extreme
Radiance ended up working out for zeal harassment 25 storm good luck
Good luck, I will say the game really went into extreme sphere the moment zeal got congregations
Yeah, it actually changed the line instant 180 found a couple of big ones
It's a bit of a longer rush spawn gamer Legion likely to stay alive a little bit longer as a result
I mean, how would you rate their defense capabilities, anyway?
It's okay.
I mean, Terrible is quite decent for just killing off all of these mega-cruits pushing
in, but aside from him, not really the greatest, which means he's on defense duty more or
less the entire time, so if you're looking for a smoke plate, it's going to get awkward.
We'll have this very short moment of opportunity before Terrible will have to retreat.
I think he has enough for the Blessing Plus buyback soon.
Yeah, almost enough to buy a new Barracks.
Yeah.
Halfway there.
It's a fun now, so.
Oh, it is.
Yeah, I changed my mind on that.
Okay.
Alright, he buys it up.
It's not much more room to grow for him, if anything really.
I mean, I guess backpack items for the BKB.
Not gonna see it though.
45 seconds for Roche.
Is there a play for Gamer Legion to try to defend that?
Because if you just give it up plainly,
I think for them, the inevitable push, it's not gonna work out.
Yeah, I think you have to try.
ages just to be an issue
the alphor is making it very difficult to run away
that's done so much damage
ridiculous output
full minute without the bounty now
oh a gem
oh look at that cool frosty curry
not as cool as karty
subjective
I'm not biased at all
our other courier
doesn't get much play. I don't see it very often. It's the Angel Demon
career. It was the first career in the game that had a radiant and a
dire version. Not popular though. Party wins out.
All right, let's see if Gammer League want to try some things. It's
going to be a 4v5 if they do, but you can see it ain't happening. So
all the goodies will go to the extreme side.
And the Roche fan are maybe the biggest of them.
I guess the illusion for TerraBlade can deal with it a bit better than most heroes.
It's time for your boyspeed to pop off big here.
Somehow.
Gaven giving Dyer 3%, I'm not sure why he's digging that out of, but maybe some late game TerraBlade Hope.
copium if you will down to two
disperser for tomato now how did he get rid of it was he already six-slotted
there's the Roche banner as Amé just gonna hide around just gonna take out
these illusions now as the illusions working on the Roche banner does clean
them up eventually, such a cortex onto RCY. The buildings are melting. You've got to defend
now. Rochebanner's still alive. That's a dragonfell for RCY. Into the brief fire. Go standing
around is Ame. Still has the Satanic, of course, as well. Looks like the Rochebanner will eventually
be claimed by the Illuminants. They get the tier four relatively uncontested.
Now we just need to get through Ame's three health bars.
That's right.
Big zip for Max-M, looking for the blue hole.
Lincoln's gonna be popping the books a little bit onto the terror blade.
Speed waiting in the wings though for a good curse.
It's gonna be difficult.
He should now expose.
Max-M is over.
And now it becomes even more difficult for Xmodo.
Gale force, RCY.
Very obviously trying to get out.
He's gonna get confident as well.
And the AOE do just doing work now that pressure is applied to tomorrow able to force staff to the fountain. No
I'm into just probably just hit these buildings. They're having trouble getting killed, but I'm a has many lives to burn through
The right fix is another we do from see how focusing now onto the do all the brace not to be not as the buyback
Not having to do K-Form now.
First does come out in the last moment,
and Ami beating the shit out of Xeal a bit.
Might be enough for the kill, indeed it is.
They get two kills in fact.
Might have to buy back in the game.
Ami comes up to Static to try to stay alive.
Bucks directly up to the heroes to set the Ancient.
That's Black number one.
This XM completely out of man.
It pops the BKB.
They can't actually mind these kills as easily as they thought.
Now the fortification coming out on the Ancient.
Now the Elections towards X.
That'll be the end of Speed.
Bombing, now he's hitting the ancient, instead of RCY, okay, switching it up,
mid to side, RCY, this will be the die-back for him, and they're gonna call it GG,
an extreme, continue to move on here, or a gamer legion, now eliminated.
So top four secured for extreme, gamer legion, bow out in fifth, sixth, still a nice result for
them, I think a lot of people, you know, they beat their, not getting into top eight curse and get
one round further at the end of the road. Richard. Yes, that is me. We'll start by talking about
Game of Legion then, because no doubt we're going to talk about Extreme a bit more in-depth.
It's always disappointing when you lose, especially when you think you could have done better and
there were a few mistakes in both games, but ultimately this is the best version of Game of
Legion we've seen. Yeah, I think this is the best that they've seen them look, drafts,
It's very impressed by what they were able to pull off in the first game,
even though they lost it, maybe a little bit of an overextension in the second game as well.
This team just keeps getting better and better, I think I said it the other day,
with the small steps. Maybe they need another like two, three tournaments in this year to
like really breach into that tier one to be able to fight against all of these top tier teams,
because you can definitely feel, I feel like it just needs a little bit of a sharpening when it
it comes down to some mid game fights for example this one he's the one who's
getting caught he's kind of being the front line with winter vibrant
positioning needs to be slightly better but speaking of positioning the Boca
is positioning it has stopped here and men it was it was so good the dazzle
needs to be answered in the next few days it feels like one of those things
where people are not used to playing against it right now right you mentioned
acts in the draft. It's strong enough that if you put one of these good players on Basel you need
to go to one of these classic counters because I don't know even without the natures prophet I
feel like it would be pretty good and we also have a lot of really good natures prophet players
still in the tournament so and shout outs to Aume by the way he was giga fat in this game.
game. He stood his ground here. I love this build going for the Scotty Satanic and, you
know, even the Hydra's breath. Yeah, it was such good damage items. He had like 50 armor
by the end of the game. Him paired up with Baboka, tossing the grave on him. It was like
he had three lives. It was so difficult for game religion to play the fights. This is
just beautiful to watch some of the executions that they did have in this game. Zeal jumping
in three men stun coming out from the congregations of the deep AOE doom,
slow them down with Sheva's guard, starts the fight and then another clutch grave
is gonna come out from the bokeh giving him pretty much that second slash third life with
Satanic he goes back to full HP because at this point you're like yeah he's gonna die,
he gets sundered, if this grave doesn't come in in that second he's just straight up dead and
you can see the AOE damage that he's dealing. You mentioned the build, like this type of damage
build because he becomes super tanky but he's also dishing out insane amount of
damage, burning mana, having magic damage coming up from the owner against DB,
high armor, Hydra spread as well, having some AoE on top of that, the clear-through
illusions, great against tanky dragon knight, that Ami was really on point this game.
And it's been on point the whole tournament. Yes, yeah this has been one of the best
tournaments for him in at least in recent years. If it wasn't for Baboka on
on Dazzle, I really do believe that the Nature's Prophet TB matchup would be pretty much in favor of TB going into that late game.
You saw that, you know, Sunder scenario in the ages, two lives actually isn't enough.
You need all three and I really like that Extreme Gaming as a team, they played around the graves as well.
Like when Aume comes back up, so first off, they let him frontline, they let him die, they let him tank a bunch of spells, then he gets graved.
They trust Baboka to be in position to not get caught out in to hit the graves and then XM zips in and everybody jumps in on that essentially third life of Aumei and every time Xtreme is playing well I go back to this when they got second at TI they were this team fight positioning team you could not break them down.
Yeah, their formation was really really good and formation was good in this one as well
I really like the moves that they made especially
Six or seven minutes into the game the bokeh he makes the rotation through the twin gates
They get triple kill they get the tower and it does open up the map usually we don't see XG playing as
Aggressive, but seems like they really stepped up with the timings YouTube agreed with us as well
The YouTube chat said the dazzle was indeed the standout. So there you go
Always nice to agree. Now I'm going to throw you over to Nomad with Zeal.
Thank you Richard. So congratulations on this win. This does get you guys top four.
How's the team feeling coming into this series today and did it go how you expected?
Before we came here it was a bit troublesome, prepping for them, but in the end we did
come into a conclusion and it worked out well.
I see so a lot of discussion a lot of ideas flying around, but it seems like you found the right ones
Who was your MVP for the second game?
I'm not sure just not me
Not you why so I think I played really bad because I'm not quite used to the radiance, but
I don't end up mighty mates play perfectly well, so yeah
All right, that's very self-deprecating. I think you did pretty well
you've been playing a lot of this doom. Is this a hero which you enjoy playing?
I don't really enjoy playing it because you just keep farming, right? It's kind of boring.
End the fun. Okay, great. Well, sounds like you're having an amazing time here.
But I mean, there's been a lot of talk about this dazzle, because dazzle kind of kicking off,
and you actually stole Gamer Legion's safe lane from the first game, right? They had the Prophet
and the dazzle, then you took it. Is this just a strong combo that you wanted to play with,
or did you actually see them do it and go, we want a bit of that?
This combo has been played a lot in this tournament and we did see a lot in scrims as well and we tried it and it's kind of good and we just played, you know.
For sure, for sure. Well, I mean, hate to bring it up, but you did have that loss yesterday versus LGD.
What do you feel like went wrong in that series and what did you learn for today?
I felt like all of us underperformed a bit,
the drafts were a bit rough,
but I think mainly we didn't perform as well.
All right. Well, you've got one more series coming up today.
You will be playing this evening.
So how are you going to prepare for that?
What's the plan now until then?
Eat and sleep and try to recover from your business.
Still recovering from that loss, all righty.
Well, looking forward to seeing you play later,
Zeal, congratulations once again on your win,
and we'll send it back to the panel.
Yeah, worth noting, of course, yeah, they will play later on.
It's always that tough.
And people say, well, once you disadvantage
from being in the lower bracket, if you don't do resets,
it's back.
We saw Team Liquid have the longest day
in competitive Dota at the previous play,
where they started super early in the morning,
had to sit around.
We had one of the longest series while they were still
waiting, and then they had to go in and play in the finals.
Well, the good news for him is he's smashed game religion, so it's not going to be the longest day.
No, definitely not.
Like, they prevented that from happening by being good.
Yes, absolutely.
So, just a few thoughts about Extreme.
I mean, I've had a few people message me saying they think, you know, actually, this could be the tournament for them.
This could be.
Like, even if they lose the next series, I would still say that this is such a huge improvement.
Big fan of the new roster as well, so it doesn't matter if they end up fourth, if they win the whole thing.
whole thing. I think this is very, very good for the whole squad. He said that they had
a little bit of issues coming into the tournament and not doing too hot. Also saying that him
playing Doom is not right up his alley. He finds it a little bit boring. Imagine how well
he would play.
It is what it is.
Yeah. Imagine if he was like, yeah, this is really fun. How well he would play because
Zeal has been the shining star as well.
You can tell he enjoys Brewmaster.
He does.
Because he does so good when he gets that hero. And he does good when he plays Doom as
Yeah, I'm always playing with a smile on his face. That's the main thing even when it's pouring
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Alright welcome back the bright lights of Aurora are on the horizon.
looking forward to talking about them because we haven't had a lot of opportunity here in
the morning crew. We've talked about nearly every other team repeatedly, but I feel like
this is our first opportunity to dig deep into this new look Aurora roster.
Yeah, this is the new roster with a bit of a stand in situation, but it doesn't feel
like it. Yesterday they had a roster is after kind of stomping Yandex and that game number
1 game 2 and 3 probably the least competitive games that we've seen in the tournament especially that game 3
I don't know if it was late
I don't know if they got tired if they understood that the game has already been lost the mirror uses buyback
Fastest game. Yeah, it's been like less than nine. Okay. Well, hold on a second with this Aurora slander
I the reason it was the third fastest game in
walkie-talkie history is because they're actually willing to GG out you got all these
kind of fun loves them you all these kurokies out here that the game is just
over it's dead and they don't call GG until you know 43 minutes when it was it
was lost at 12 so I respect that they can just you know we fucked up guys let's
just G next going to the next series like I think Navi has a mountain to climb
ahead of them. I really believe Aurora in the series that they won, they looked unbelievably strong.
One of the strongest teams at the tournament. Yep, that's for sure. I mean, this team, if you
look at the squad's skater, is back on the team. The team is doing well. I want to see what he's
going to be able to bring because he also said in an interview that he feels like he's joining,
like he's learning a lot as a new player on the team as well. He needs a little bit more time to
feel confident because you are joining already a team of three slash four players. Stojkov is also
a stand-in so they need to make him feel like comfortable because he has been playing with
the same coach with the same partner in the lane for a really long time and they have different
visions of the game. Sometimes you're not vocal enough and he did replace one of the more vocal
that you've ever had. Of
course, I found a way to
play it. Found a way to
shoehorn nightfall into the
conversation here. I wanted
to look at some of the stats
between the previous season
and this one. Of course, the
hero diversity Aurora has
picked a lot more diverse
heroes in this tournament. The
match duration is shorter.
They're winning matches faster,
which I think makes sense
with Skeeter. He comes from
Falcons and he's always been
that aggressive style player
and the map pings per game. I
thought this was very
less than half yeah less than half so yeah I don't think skaters micro
managing the whole no he's not but dude they got top two in the in the last
block here right these guys almost won yeah so as much as people you know want
to joke about nightfall and we love the guy in his pings on the map they got
second so they still have to their top six right now
guarantee you do agree skaters and some would say that he's playing good that
They're playing on the high thing
Well now they're a low ping so they should play better. We'll see because you know
It's a it's just a different style
In the last season of Wallachia obviously they had a whole season of practicing with nightfall and
This is their first season with Skeeter
So we'll see if what they've concocted in the first tournament that they're playing together is enough to actually carry them through
And we'll just take a quick look at Navi's favorite heroes.
Obviously, we've talked about Navi a lot.
Again, we wear our biases on our sleeveless, which, of course,
is that this is a young team.
We've talked about it a lot.
They're really evolving and adapting before our eyes as well,
getting that experience and resilience.
And they do have their own style and their own flavor.
They definitely do.
We are seeing their favorite heroes,
which doctor, being one of them, 80% win rate,
Riddies popped off in most of the games.
I'm not sure if they are losing a little bit of a confidence in this hero and also some of the team specific heroes that they like to run
Got the juice he played one game on faceless Lloyd that they got the dub with he looked very very comfy on it
And yesterday Niko and Magnus he looked good in the like mid game and early game
But in the late game got caught a couple of times
So want to see if they have a couple of aces up their sleeve when it comes down to maybe
Slotting in some of these like heroes that don't have that high win rate or high high pick rate and for now. It's just gonna be
Mondrian for got the juice could these fans from a rod. Yeah, so
Targeted they banned the Riddies witch doctor got the juice life stealer
Nico Lena and then the Nico the bird the bird man like and I
I get it. Na'Vi has been winning when they are playing their own style. They have been winning when they
Ignore the meta, they ignore how other teams are drafting and they pick for their own comfort and what they feel is good
So can I ask you a question? You said this is a stand-in situation. We're talking about Stoikov. Yes
So what's going on with Stoikov?
Well, he's popping off. I gotta say he seems to be fully locked in every single game
Like I think his performances have been top tier. He's been creeping in in these like top five
GPMs highest the damage KDA as well a guy that doesn't have that much competitive experience
But he's going toe-to-toe with every single mid laner so far at Valakia, and he's so down to play ember. Yeah, like it's
His best hero the only other ember that I've seen hold a candle to him in this tournament is Niko himself
So I'm very curious to see
What does Niko pick to counter it? We've seen pretty much only the
Slark and Monkey King have been the two heroes that have worked out to counter it
in the landing phase. Yeah I'm just looking at the drafts from Aurora and
it doesn't seem like they ever opened up with two core heroes with the first two
picks. So now they have ways of you know that there is Bane available, there is
dark willow if you want to have a bit of a saving support coming out from your
position for coming up from your position five k yori he has a bit of a
limited hero pool he plays certain heroes you know love k yori here yori yeah
we do phoenix there's no way it's phoenix and if phoenix is not a hero right
now from position four slash five so he is playing different heroes but I mean
jacquero jacquero definitely up there but of course the dark sir combo damage
over time it does feel like a no-brainer here. It's so good and Wyvern is also insane against
Longer it as well. There's a lot of good options for him right now. It hasn't been very disciplined.
He hasn't took the wallock as much as he would use. He sneaks it in when the other supports get
banned. I really do think Wyvern and Shakira are both very good options here. Just a question of
which one does he prefer to play? Hoodwink? Yeah, we talked about the Darkseid combos as well. Obviously
Yeah, all the Chikiro by the way, I do want to I do want to mention
This is a nasty lane from Navi picking loan drew it and saying no matter what you're gonna lose lane to us
And then Aurora, you know, they've got darks here that hand
We're gonna get the wave that's where you pick the bane and it makes it impossible to wave cut against laundry
Now they have to play the lane legitimately and I think that's probably why the hood wing for Mira comes out because it's one of the best
Just like legit laners in the game. You're not doing anything too fancy
You know, she's in the line with her wing. You're just a really good generic liner to sit in front of the creep wave and harass
There's a lot of dance like I'm a big fan of Darkshire plus Ember in general like you cut down through support
So easily having iron shell on you spirit vessel your own shield
It just burns through the two supports easily, but they do have ways of
of protecting themselves in a way where they have it.
Nightmare saved, they have terrorized, grip as well,
so they still have some tools.
And now this Wyvern pick, I think they opted to go
for Wyvern because right now there isn't a hero
that Wyvern is really afraid of.
They don't have any gap closing heroes,
so I think the last hero in this phase for Navi
needs to be Niko's hero, something that's gonna be able
to go toe-to-toe against this Ember spirit in the lane.
Call me Tryhard, what do you think?
Okay, I was going to actually ask about the undying, but Huskar was not.
No, I would just straight up say no.
So they go for the Huskar, which is the classic counter to the Ember in the lane.
It's very strong.
We have seen in this tournament, this was Ember versus Slark matchup, but one win dual-laned
with the hoodwink.
This would put Darkseer in a really precarious situation against Laundryd Bane.
I don't think you can do that in this game because of how the side lanes are.
So this is a really good Huskar pick.
It means that our boy Stoikov, he's, you know, 3-0 with the hero,
but this is going to be a true test of his skill right now.
Yeah, for sure.
I'm looking at the heroes for Aurora to pick up.
I think they have good options.
Sven comes to my mind having explosive damage against Huskar.
Even Ursa, I think Tiny's still available.
A lot of these heroes that, when paired up with Wyvern,
you are going to be having good time in the lane.
They don't see the matchup, but Wyvern does stabilize a lot of those lanes.
And this is going to be the test to see how well he's actually going to be able to do in the lane,
because he is playing against Haskar.
We've seen teams, like even against Slark in the mid lane against Ember Spirit,
that they put a position 4 slash 5 in the mid lane for the first wave of crew,
just to make sure that you're still getting something out of the way.
I don't think.
I don't think you can.
In this one, yeah.
So if you're playing against Laundred, Bane, you're not winning that lane no matter what.
You can creep skip, as you said, because of the nightmare.
So the off lane is going to be pretty difficult.
I don't think Hoodwing can make that rotation.
So at the very least, they get to see the entire draft.
Is there a world where it's actually the Wyvern that goes mid, or maybe the Wyvern?
on the carry like the wyvern goes with the dark seer and then hoodwink sits
mid or you know some creative laning combination that they can do at least for
a couple of waves because if you want to pick one carry in Dota to just leave on
his own for a few waves like Skeeter's the guy right yeah for sure they just
need the right hero for it like you said I have one hero night stalker I think it
could work out really well even though they have control I think and this one
against Wyvern, right now didn't have any backline jumpers, Centaur has been banned
which can bring the whole squad to them. A hero that even Speed talked about in an
interview that this hero is very good and when there's a specific set of heroes
like this I think having a vision hero could work out really well for Navi.
He didn't play it yet, PMA.
Yeah, I like it. It's kind of the only offlaner that I can think of that
fulfill that like properly fulfills that rule you know there's it should be acts
like if they feel like they need the jump control they are picking it blindly
in to carry that they don't see so the blade mill uh is going to be very good
having a bkb piercing told even though they do have bane so they still have
stuff to go for the nice soccer one was a little bit more on the riskier side
that one is just more stable higher risk higher reward for sure and we still go
back to does he want to play Sven does he want to play like tiny even Ursa
because Ursa has been a great answer to some of these heroes especially against
the axe we've seen how effective Agathom Scepter build is and you can kill the
bear too which I really the reason why I want Ursa is just so we have bear
versus bear match up to see very stronger yeah zero chance we see the
classic ski a weaver not not here I don't think so against an axe it's really
right they need a beefy beefy boy to hold the front line I like I like Ursa and
spend because tiny because of the dark seer like the dark seer makes these melee
heroes look so much better and he would turn like dark seer turns Ursa into a
very good bear killer one surge and one bash and the bear is dead but we talked
about this you probably want a hero to be left alone. Maybe Clinkz is better for that.
You talked about this the other day. Yes you did Jenkins. Yeah I mean Clinkz is generally a very
strong hero right now. I think it's underrated. The innate is really strong against any hero who's
naturally getting a lot of armor. We both like Clinkz. We're both big Clinkz fans and
Against axe it's a counter in a way it can go both ways like if you jump the clink's he can sometimes kill himself
But on the flip side clink's is doing dealing a lot of damage using the skeletons those can't be blade melt
Right, so it's a counter in that way and also in the lane you can take the battle hunger off by eating a very hunger
And it's also heavy physical damage against huskar. I was thinking about sven. Sven might run would have
Ran into a problem where he lacks damage in the longer fights
I don't think he can kill all three cores. That's Axe, Huskar, Loundred, a lot of stuff that you need to focus on to be able to kill them.
I like what Navi have in this one. I feel like this type of a draft is, if you look at the lanes,
they're gonna be winning Loundred's lane. Huskar should automatically win the mid lane, playing against Huskar.
Axe and Dark Willow is a strong lane. I don't think they're gonna be winning this one,
but you can also creepscape against Wyver.
They have no ways of stopping you if you ever feel threatened. You can always TP out
Even though I favor Aurora when it comes down to Ross kill
I feel like this type of a draft can pop off or not
Yeah, I thought it was funny as well in the content we've done
Niku said he hates us Garpickers, but but he loves what but he loves to pick a especially if you're getting picked against an ember
And you have 18 pick or like absolute last pick. This is ideal. All right
I think he's in that situation.
We can find out more about it.
We'll go over to Nomad.
He's with CY right now.
I sure am.
Hello, Twin.
So we have got the Ember coming out into the Husker.
I mean, well, Husker into Ember.
This seems like one of those kind of basic counts in Dota.
Other teams really haven't been doing it.
Why do you think that is,
and why are you doing it in this game?
I mean, I love Husker.
And fortunately, Niko also loves Husker.
And so I think I understand the Super World.
He understands it well.
like I was with Quinn for many years,
like he taught me everything about the Zero.
I think a lot of mid players are maybe scared
to practice the Zero and they don't really get good enough
at it because I think the Hero can feel kind of bad in pubs.
Like you are a bit scripted in some ways
and he kind of farms a lot.
It's easier just to pick like Ember or some Storm
or something and just go play a normal game, you know?
So I feel like more Heroes, I mean,
more players should learn to play the Zero
if I have to be completely honest
because I think it's kind of strong.
That's a very strong take.
And then how do you see this game playing out
the Huskar and the other lanes as well. I mean I think Mitch would go good. I was
wondering if they might want to duel in or something with Hoedling. They might do
something like that you know. For all I know Husker can duel against it as long as
you try not to defeat. We have loaned to it also in the game. It's super fine. We knew
they're gonna pick Twinks. I thought maybe the X would bugger a bit but of all
he still picked it. So we'll just see how it goes. I think it can be good for us but
it also depends a bit how we play of course. Like I did enough today. They
could also win this game if we fog up some moments and they play well so yeah.
Yeah, I was going to ask about the Axe into Klink's thing. It's obviously a lane spine, but then later on when the Axe can get on top of him, that can be really problematic. Do you think there's sort of the underestimating PMA a little bit?
I mean, I don't know if it's underestimating. I think they just really feel like they need a good hero into maybe there's something that could kill Bear and like something that's good against Husker or like Klink's is good against Husker.
And I think they just maybe they think they can deal with Axe. They have some Wyvern, you know, they have like, you know, some things maybe to help out a bit. So maybe that's their idea.
All righty, well, thank you very much and good luck in this game number one and we'll send it over to our casters of syndrome and Sunspan
Thank you very much indeed
Aurora versus Navi in the lower bracket winner of this faces off against extreme gaming in the
semifinals here
Yeah, we get to see a Huskar mid always a classic feast or famine
I'm always a huge you're a big fan of these types of strats where either really works or really doesn't
You like the double-sided coin the double-edged sword as it were some time. I'm a I'm a big fan of mechanics that are like
How to say sacrifice concepts where you risk something to get something like greedy neutrals, but I don't like Huskar
So that sounds a little bit counterintuitive
But I think I think a lot of people dislike this hero for the fact that it just generates how to say the risk reward
Isn't really there a lot of the time
I think that's the problem like the cost of this here as you sacrifice like to do damage
But some of the matchups are just so inherently obviously free wins that it doesn't really matter
This is one of them by the way this lane is unwinnable for ember if both players play even remotely well
particularly the Husker obviously is
The main player that needs to not mess up
I guess this is a good start for the ember that Nico is pushing this hard so now he'll at least get some experience in the tower
Keep an eye on a CS in this lane it's gonna be brutal probably
One would think.
Imagine what would be very different if you could get aggro while using burning spears,
which is something you would be a proponent of if you think orb attacks are...
Very stupid.
Or walking in particular is very stupid, but...
But you still like pluscar though, so...
Conceptually, yeah, of course.
You can buff them in other ways to compensate,
just like the drows of the world, the vipers of the world, the clinks of the world.
I think I named every single one of them.
OD, this is a garbage.
Okay.
So far, not too shabby.
Obviously behind, but we've seen much, much worse.
Yeah, the first two waves mean a lot to the Huskar versus whatever matchup.
And I think Storkov's beginning here is arguably better than you maybe could have expected by having 5 CS Minute 2.
We've seen games where they have 0.
So, perhaps a little bit of mess up from Niku, but now he has re-stabilized the lane where it's meant to be for him,
and these are probably going to be the five CS that Storkov will be getting in this lane, because now this is what's going to happen.
He will play between Ember and the wave, which means it will be very hard for him to slight any CS.
He missed both of them there. Got the experience though.
Yeah, that's the important part.
And what you can do, there's a couple of things you can do as Ember.
You can try to pull the wave by going next to the tower and running it south, or you can just jump over.
I'm not sure we will see that at some point, Kaori.
We're harassed by that battlehunter. Skeeter's playing McClink's.
Have you liked this hero in this game?
I has very good core-to-core matchups against Toscar and Lawn.
So I think that is the main reason they picked it.
I think Ursa was a different or another interesting candidate that was available.
They might have also considered Tiny, but I think the problem that both Ursa and Tiny have compared to Clink's
is that I think they're worse against Toscar.
So, probably that's why they ended up settling for this as their overall final choice.
Days?
He has a decent amount, now applying a little bit more damage to Kaori.
He gets the Blood Grenade as well, and his PMA is going to join with the Battle Hunger, and this looks to be First Blood.
Just buying as much time as he can.
He will grab it, ramble, Kaori, maybe it denies in his future, going to attempt for it, but PMA draws First Blood,
and back skating in the first play is always super scary.
Got the juice getting second blood onto WS, so both side lanes for Navi off to a hot start.
And the thing that's worrying for Aurora here is if you lose all three lanes,
you don't even get to play your lineup.
It's not the best darksuit game. You only really have Ember as a clear pairing
and he is going to suffer, obviously, against the Huskar on mid lane, speaking of.
Speaking of, these burning spheres are ripping Stokov a new one.
We'll drop the days.
TP from Mira, but might be able to kill days, gets off the acorn shot.
It's just a suicide to Neutrals here, I think he's going to do just that.
It's indeed.
Nothing for Kori's troubles walking over there.
And Niku still has to lay in a pretty good position here, so upon Stokov's return,
don't imagine he will get much more of this.
Yeah, Stokov has gotten a single CS since the last time we looked.
Yeah, that's in two and a half minutes, one creep.
Something.
Lucky you do.
And really, as always, it's just about how much can Huskar get out of this?
Like, obviously, he's farming really well, getting more XP, winning the lane heavily,
but sometimes we see them fall flat afterwards.
What do you think they need to do to allow him to,
I was going to say, spread his wings, but it doesn't feel fitting for a Huskar.
Spread the scales.
I think this is what CY was talking about in the interview without going into detail is that a lot of players I think just fundamentally misunderstand when Husqvar's timings are and how to do it.
I'm not an expert so I'm not going to sit here and pretend that I know exactly what to do.
But what I see work a lot of the time is make one or two key plays around your armlet
and then don't keep overextending.
Like you take what you can get, but you don't bite over more than you can chew.
I know that sounds like extremely like broad in this concept,
but probably something like you're getting tier one towers with the armlet if possible,
then you farm your next item, then you're getting Roche.
And then you're, I mean if you can, you're looking to end as this bear will actually probably die here.
a nice pick up for Aurora. We'll get it on their hoodwink Mira, grab the bounty.
The supports they have play fine around Huskar. I wouldn't say he's like Kremda, like Kremov matches for him to play with.
But I do like the hero with Lone Druid actually. I think these heroes have interesting synergy.
Huskar provides the early pressure, gives Lone Druid the space to get his axe, and then when he starts staring at Huskar you have these two very big problems in the fight that you have to navigate.
I like it
And Tangle on WS big damage. Oh, they're actually gonna heal her.
Riddies has joined though.
Yep.
It's like enough members of Aurora there to keep them at bay.
And bot lane is just a poor not laning situation.
Axe cutting waves, clings farming in the tower.
The usual.
Axe is gonna be very happy about this though.
because he can counter clinks. Yep. Eventually with that blade mail blink.
And more so than anything like we got the juice. Somehow they kill him with the
three up there onto the Wyvern Ghost Riddies but they're just gonna dive him
too. Yeah the iron shell stacking up. Bushwhack. That's gonna be the death. So
double kill for WS on the dark seer which you and every pro player thought
was OP coming into the tournament, has a 20-something percent win rate, and got first picked this
series. They picked it as an immediate response to Lone Druid, which is a vicious cycle.
Yeah, I guess so. Maybe the teams just needed 30 games to warm up. I think the thing that's
worth noting about this series as a whole more so than the draft is also like who is
the more consistent in terms of playing with an advantage. Nice slight dodge there from
Stoikov will survive, because I have my concerns about not be playing a lineup like this just based on the games we have cast of them where
Would you agree they haven't had a single like clean game? No, that's you would agree. Yes, okay
Then you answer the questioning correctly, but that's fine
That's a problem when you're playing Huskar this hero has execution requirements
like you need to do specific things in the right order in the right way at the right time and
And they're just, even in games where they've had big leads or favorable positions,
they just make one or two critical errors.
And kicking Husker on a team like that is bold.
Even if you're a player himself, let's say Niko is a really good Husker player,
understands the hero well.
Well, you still need the team cohesion and the good, broader, bigger movements to land.
Or you can be the greatest Husker player in the world, it doesn't matter.
So that's my biggest concern for Nami here.
They're off to a good start, but one of the mistakes is going to come in.
Yeah, my frag hit Stoikov this time, the first crown hit as well, gets off the site, a nice dodge, but it's not going to save him, as Niku able to show off that newly picked up armlet.
Kari in the meantime, going to team up with Skeeter to try to take out PMA, and Mira also in the area, so this should be the death of the axe eventually, he's going to try to make it as hard as possible.
Nice try.
Closing for a potential shot, but the cold embrace from Kari saves him.
Maybe if you had call there, that could have been interesting.
But, 0-2-3 build, true.
Now, in a lot of Alroy's games, StarCraft has been playing really, really well.
This won't be his biggest challenge yet, I think.
This is just atrocious conditions for an Ember.
0-2-0, your lowest net worth of the cores by 1500,
Up to the second lowest, which is surprisingly lone Druid, just overtakes X now.
It has a 400 network lead over Dark Willow right now.
WS is in the first wall of the game, but he's going to be successful.
He's just going to TP out easily.
He hasn't already taken the tower, so he's building a nice home for himself up here.
Darkster is going to get very far into this game.
There's nothing stopping him out of these dire heroes.
That's one thing on Roy did very well here is they brought both supports up top,
top-lift clinks alone bottom since Axe was cutting and then they actually won the top lane quite significantly off of those two support plays
So they're finding the opportunities on the map that they could
They just recognized all right, we're just not in a mother mid like it is what it is
Do something elsewhere
No, I mean, I think that's fine, but yeah, it's we've seen this domino effect trying to help a man that has
It's essentially a lost cause and really the pressure is on Niku to do something right like you're gonna win the label
Can you do it?
Which wax not my head?
Bramble will on the story. Not dodge
This one sucks though. They brought four heroes in here and missed the bush whack
It's the play ends before it can even begin skater was a part of this move this time
They wanted to strike the Husker and not gonna happen now all five as a matter of fact as Darkseer joins really committed to this idea of taking this tower
See if Navi have any plans to do something about it. Both their supports only level 5.
And there's no way. It's got the Troll with the Rally Skeletons. You have Siege as well.
This is a goner.
They make it worth their while in the end.
Good play. Doesn't cost them much. WS can just head back top. This probably cost him like 300, 400 gold to do.
Worth it for the map control.
Skeeter about a thousand away from his desolator mirror be pursued right now by axe will simply TP out
Does he have changed he does he didn't get he actually hit the slight but not the chains that was so close
Blade now now up for PMA and then the blink obviously after
Rambles gonna miss. Yeah, WS is a okay Niku boots of travel very early boots of travel
What do you think about that?
Because you can travel on the bear.
Even though it's a hero, I guess it's also a unit.
Cool.
That's very inconsistent.
I'm not even confident anymore.
When it comes to laundry bear, I just flip a coin.
He did just TP on it, doesn't he?
I think it was the bear.
I think we didn't see it on camera, but...
We'll have to pay attention.
Might have TPed on the bear.
Yeah, that should be Travels too.
All heroes were created equal, except the bear.
Click off with urn, not gonna get any charges anytime soon.
Decent vessel game though, Huskar, Axe and Laundruid all good targets to vessel and of
course after the changes to Huskar he can no longer just remove vessel, shrug it off
for fun with one of the most stupid facets of all time that doesn't exist anymore, that
this now is shard. So that's good.
You like it. I like that it became a shard.
Yeah, you like it now that you had to pay money for it.
I still don't really like it, but at least it's a shard.
Oh, this would be a nice night there.
Very nice. And we should mention, of course, the break from
Sharp Shooter are going to play a significant role in all likelihood
on the Huskar as well.
It's not like they really have.
They don't have a Silver Edge Carrier.
They don't have a, I was gonna say Konda.
Nobody's a Konda Carrier except for yesterday.
Who was that?
What hero was that again?
Chaos Knight.
Oh yeah, God, that was weird.
Shad's build in that game was,
what's the word?
Experimental.
It worked, they did win the game.
but uh...
hard to say how good it was really
strangers and other to be too results oriented
sometimes you
make mistakes and still win in the new conclude the wrong things and vice
versa times you lose in your life all our heroes suck and then it just turns
out well you just miss play too fights horribly in your draft is actually
really good
so i coach is our important
that the birds i view the entire game and
can help find the
right reasons and look at the big picture
right smoke from the roars show off this newly picked up that's later for
senator to be a really nice move to connect onto the laundry and looks
likely to be successful it got the juice goes for the next camp they're
just can't amount
you know he's here
and well
looks like he is actually
going all the trees chose not to go for the camp again
Headed to the south, down to his friend Huskar.
This could get awkward.
Yeah.
If they open on him poorly and he gets his ulti off,
with Huskar in neighborhood.
Yeah.
Spotting.
He pretty shortly gets off the ult, and there's a light break from Niku.
Gonna focus on the wyvern to start things out, but he gets broken.
Off fiends for you.
With a crit on him that clinks just in time.
And apply a lot of damage now with that right click from the bear.
Terrorized comes out.
Only onto one, but it's a very important one in the clink.
Skeeter's going to get searched, trying to survive the EQ in the meantime.
Popping or toggling rather, that armlet will stay alive.
They lose the clinks though.
You've got to just continue on to WS.
Gets the route to follow.
Stoikov, I'm going to do too much here.
Had that much farm at this point.
I think WS can be able to walk away.
Another route though, this time reserved for Stoikov.
He goes down as another kill onto Daze, it seems, was the trade.
a very strange fight and crucial for Aurora that they got all these wall illusions because
otherwise they would have been
crushed even harder.
It's a three for one exchange with only Willow dying on Navi.
The wall illusions made Huskar's job difficult, it's a lot harder to armlet toggle, you're
taking constant damage, especially he's illusion of himself is actually kind of strong there.
Ended up fighting it nicely.
Wow.
Get the free kill on the PMA.
Oh, it's coming in. You can remove Battlehunger by eating one of your skeletons.
Ah, true. Lovely.
You can see the replay here.
So, notice how instantly this was a clear map read. It was really nicely done there, counteracting that.
They get the full grip, the break onto Huskar, also important again for Aurora to not lose this even harder.
But this vacuum wall about to come in here, one on the wall, I guess that just ran into it.
There were more illusions now.
He only got the Huskar to start.
And now there's a Willow illusion, there's a Bear illusion, so he had three the whole fight basically.
See Niku starting to deal with them one at a time here, but they make things a little complicated.
But they navigated it well now, the chaotic fight, but clear winners.
chop on a little wiper on the high ground.
Alright, is that four kills? Yep, sure is.
Or for nothing, and that just blows up now as a 5k lead for Navi.
Ironically, the Huskar lineup is not the one that has to make the moves, it seems.
They just have to defend their laundry. Aurora keep running at him, and he makes the right reach.
That was another missed bushwhack from Mira, and he gets Ulti off,
Not gonna show off, get a great terrorize on Clemson, just take him out. No problem.
And this is gonna mean potentially free road, but you can see Aurora might have some other thoughts.
Bear is breaking smokes.
Peter, doesn't want to be the first in obviously, the bear.
He's very tanky to get through. He's gonna get the Aegis and Niku.
Just a Niku.
Oh, blink call maybe?
Just wants to fight.
Yeah, TMA gets the call onto the darkseer.
The right click's not coming out from Niku.
Pops to BKB.
He's getting pretty damn low.
Already burns the Aegis, so not toggling there very well on the armland.
Is WF burning up?
He will fall.
Now the light break coming out on some creeps is Niku.
Clean up these illusions was well in all likelihood.
So they get the kill on Darkseer, but it feels like a needless, ages removal.
I guess it's okay.
Looks like he's going to get a bonus kill here maybe.
No, Kiora with the haste will make it out just barely.
I think it's fine.
Like sure, you would have liked a better fight than this, or some objectives, but you're
still extending your lead now up to A-K, you didn't bleed anything out.
Could you have played it better?
Probably.
But again, we've got to look at it from the perspective of what happens in quite a few of Navi's games.
This has been very stable, which is a good sign.
No critical error so far.
Up to a nice early lead.
Now, in a lot of lineups, I would be very confident in their victory with a 7K lead.
I just have so many memories of Huskars just messing up.
The first to try to counteract that Soikov's going to have enough time to use a remnant to exit.
Yep.
And Miku, what is he building now?
Obviously, he has to BKB is...
Is this just a casual plate mail for now into shard?
Looks like it.
So he wants a way to remove the spirit vessel.
And then he's getting satanic after, so another dispel in his queue.
Not he might go for agonimceptor, but...
He will eventually.
It feels like the ember is the main use...
I mean, it's getting...
Oh, this would be a big find.
Yes, indeed.
There you go.
Big kill streak ended.
The power of the sharpshooter and the power of the ward on that high ground that they placed a while ago
Giving them all the information when Mira actually hits his bush or his yeah bush wax. Mm-hmm. Things go well
A little rough
But in the same vein they will be
Lane
8 charges on the desk of Skeeter.
Put this head in the grain.
Yep, keep it up.
Main.
Skeeter is going to opt for a dragon lance.
No big surprise.
What do you want to see for him in this game after that?
On the clanks?
Yeah.
I wonder if there's any reason to get creative here or not.
I feel like this is a pretty cookie cutter game, so probably either Pike or Hydra's Breath.
You get the Dragon Lens first and then I think you leave it there, and then either...
Maybe it's by Scotty? I've come to really like carries buying more Scotty's this patch.
It seems very strong to just increase your health pools by a significant amount and still get, you know...
It's such a nice all-round item. You're playing against X, you're playing against Hutscarn as well, so...
Titanic, could be a consideration. At some point as well, it clicks, it's not the best
hero for that though. We'll see. Maybe, maybe just goes Agz after Dragonlance. That would
be pretty standard too. Burning Army is very difficult on those cars to play around. It's
impossible to toggle with so many units. Yeah, he is indeed going to do exactly that.
So I think Agz into Scatio Daedalus probably. Is this a game for Crella's Crozier or like
a dark seer perhaps yep it will be eventually days is going to solo mira
and immediately say sub diff i think that's probably fair in this game so far the team's
a lot to have toxic voice line yeah good question rather double standards in life
why is goodbye clowns considered not toxic but my belt you belch considered
inappropriate I think that's something else
he parts and belches the entire time you're playing through that
Thank you us
Either hunting some bear
Like we get it the fear way too far away enough
More injection of gold as always stokov is opting for an early BKB
Understandable considering how this game is gone. Oh, they're trying for Niko. They have good protection though tumblers toy and the nightmare
I'm not gonna land anything here.
Neku finds himself a Wyvern, gets off the light break and easy kill.
Uses the BKB, now the call onto Stoikov with the grip to follow the pushback.
Nice pushback.
Now a back fall onto three heroes, really have to follow up that the terrorize is there in the meantime.
Neku gonna try to reset, along with PMA's BKB.
Reddy's gonna have to sack his life.
And Daze just gets bursted by Skeeter in the meantime.
Skeeter showed up really late to this fight. His TP got cancelled by the bear up top,
which was why Navi were so eager to fight there, but kind of got outplayed in the end. Really nice bush, why crucial?
Breaking that grip
Off-Riddy's to not get the kill on to Ember and allows them to chase down and get something the other way.
Heater opting for Agni's Scepter as his next item.
What will the plate now be eventually?
Probably AC in this game, I don't think.
Lotus is okay, but not outstanding.
That is a bit peculiar.
not sure how valuable this purchase really was.
It does feel like Aurora has stabilized a bit. The lead is not getting worse.
Yep.
It kind of stagnant here. It's about the 6k mark.
That's what you want against Huskar. You just want to not roll over.
The issue is you're obviously going to have to deal with a late-game loan druid.
That is what Huskar, at fair minimum, has already bought.
Just gonna reverse it again.
PMA comes in with a big call off to Skeeter.
That's cold and braced.
They're nice to come as well, Skeeter.
Triple battle on the octane.
He just gets chopped.
Nowhere to go.
Now Wyvern's gonna be the follow-up to that, then.
They should be able to get the supportive mirror as well.
Navi, we're stagnating a bit, but that will help out.
Extents to 8k.
These Clink's moves have just not been overly successful.
Navi, read them very well
and have the counter plays ready immediately,
both the axe and the bane.
And the Willow in particular in good positions.
Daze has been in 15 out of 19 kills on the Willow easily,
topping the chart for his team's second,
X with 12.
Still a call?
I'm bare to be able to get enough hits on here.
Riddies did have grip, but here went the opposite way.
I actually slowed him with the crippling crossbow. That was almost enough.
So even I got VFX for that. Yep. Well, there's a sound at least. Sound. Yeah.
I think there's also like a little project on it. Really hard to tell when that comes.
Makes like a little thug, but I'm not sure how visible the projectile actually is.
Not a very popular item, but it has its uses.
You don't think it's popular?
No.
It's like every game.
Crippling Crossbow?
Yes.
Really?
Yes.
I don't think so.
There's one on each team right now.
I mean, maybe in pro games it's more popular.
In pub games, people just pick statistics.
In pro games, I'm playing it all the time.
Yeah, there you go.
The tier twos are not actually that great, so.
A lot of them anyway. It used to be tier three, I believe. Maybe it was a four. I see a four in the start
It's it's been moved in the tiers and then nerfed accordingly, but
Well to see Giants ring level two neutral. Mm-hmm
All it does is make you big
Doesn't actually provide any stats
Another bear kill perhaps. He does have shadow blade
Okay, let's find him.
That's 325 gold for Skeeter.
He's starting to stack up.
He's about to get his axe now.
Oh yeah, that's a juicy one.
Speaking of axes, what Riddies is working on?
Terrorize being fake, PMA.
Will not use anything. He already blinks in, gets the curse.
No follow-up though.
This is weird.
on to terrorize with two. Again, no follow-up though. This is just a delay, it seems. Let me get
the nightmare onto the hook. Wait a minute, he's just gonna get off the platform and just completely
delete him. The wall right on top of P2 though. And Stoytaw's trying to take care of the days at
the very least, but he gets called. He's gonna get shot. Hold and brace not enough to save him.
Navi again winning a fight here. Oh, not another flinger. Still available. Another huge kill for
for Navi, he has extended now to double digits.
I think Kaori will live, but...
not a good fight again for Aurora.
This last pick, Clinkz has not paid off,
but it's hard to really say where the main problem lies.
Obviously, your Ember has an atrocious game by default.
And a couple of the moves, it just...
more than anything, it feels like Navi has just really outplayed them well
around the map like just good map movement understanding have yet to really be caught
by surprise in a meaningful manner seem to always be ready and have good spellcasting
I've been very impressed with days this game has terrorized this brand will spin super super good
that's all you can really ask for I don't want to jinx it sender and
said that Navi haven't had a crisp performance yet true that so far this is one of their best
games they've played in the tournament. Sure. We've seen them stumble at the finish line, though.
Yep. Several times. What happened again? They have quite the lead now.
The fact that Riddies has the ability to just hold onto Fiend's grip that late to a fight. Yeah.
Very hard to counteract.
so many arrows in the butt oh my I've seen that video I've not two girls one
arrow that's not many arrows it's also not many girls it literally doesn't fit
at all that's just the first one you haven't seen the sequels okay
Bane will fall though.
And Aurora, the brambles.
Okay, no call to talk about.
A nice stun from the outcrop.
To get the vacuum onto three.
WS is so slow.
Gonna get life broken now.
Yandis procs.
He has blink. He's fine.
He is fine.
Very, very important bush right there from Mira.
Otherwise, I think the call clips both of them.
Yeah, that was a lot.
And he even survives.
Clean play.
play for Malora on the disengage, but at the end of the day, it's just a score.
Yeah, they didn't get much out of it, but considering how that could have gone, this
was a very, very well played situation.
At the bear right now, Agatom, Scepter, Mjolnir, Silver, Edge, and it looks like BK being next
on the list.
It's Clank still working on his Hurricane Pipe, Oscar it will be the Agon Deceptor next.
Yeah, makes sense.
He has satanic, now he has what he needs to confidently.
And PMA is a recipe away from Sheena, so the AOE call is going to be quite large.
Yep, only 900 gold to go on that.
They do up to smoke though, in spite of that not quite being ready, so they can find any openings.
It's kind of unfortunate that Shivas is basically required on Axe now because it kind of limits his builds a bit,
because you're slowing attack speed, you can't really be a damage guy, you know?
Yeah, it was counterintuitive.
I think plus A.E. was a mistake, Shannon.
No, it's just unfortunate for him.
It was not a mistake.
For anything pursued by Stoicov and W.S. will turn.
Oh, that's a good call, though.
Oh, yeah. And the lifeline to fall on place is already dead.
Oh, my, oh, yes.
Mira on the run, PMA on the low ground.
with me to reinitiate potentially, and this is already prompted to WS days.
They will get the supports, but the lifebreak now finding its home,
with the satanic to follow, and the fiends group as well still holding onto it
towards the later stages of these fights are going to get the kill out of the Embers.
What's a full team wipe for Na'Vi, as PMA does survive.
100 HP.
Was Laundred even there?
Didn't they just win that fight?
45.
Yeah. Yeah, I guess so.
Okay, Husker did 11k damage. That's pretty good.
Honestly, it would be the ultimate irony if Navi, who have been very inconsistent and made critical errors,
played their most stable game with the most unstable hero of Dota in Husker 5.
They just needed something to cancel it out, I guess.
So two negatives and this will be another Aegis for Niku.
He has enough gold for Axe as well.
Oh boy.
And yet another fight, not to sound like a broken record.
Skater is just getting owned.
Like, genuinely, so many fights now.
He gets jumped and just doesn't get anything off.
Credit to PMA on a beautiful double call
onto Klinkz and Wyvern.
Can't really ask for better one than that.
it goes to show
if you can win a 4v5 fight at thirty minutes
you probably did something right
he even survives there on a hundred HP on the way out
beautiful stuff
so Aegis and
Roche banner now for Navi
Asgard deceptively good at pushing
he has a lot of damage
200 base damage right now
plus 111. The armlet on. It'll be the AC next. Yeah, something to use this plate
metal on. He bought it early for the value against Clink's trying to survive
and then can convert it later.
Gotta be careful now as Aurora. You could be scouted at any moment by the
Silverage Bear. You get blink called if you get jumped. Just lose immediately
Starkov going to show he does not know that there's an axe on the Huskar though.
We'll jump away
Got the juice takes the top tower. Oh well got the juice bear takes the top tower. What are you gonna name it?
Johnny hey Johnny the bear
It's a good name
Anything's better than Alfredo
What's his did he name it? I don't think so
You know that's he named a spare pair. Oh, it's not dig chopper 9,000. No, okay. It's an interesting name for bear though
In case you guys were missing that game yesterday, that is the name of the tomato sword on Sven.
Shannon is not being really weird.
Both can be true.
Both can be true at the same time.
PMA has a shield.
He is so tough to kill here.
But for heart as well.
Smoke from Aurora, PMA.
The Sheevas will spot Mira.
He's getting information.
They can just casually walk in, they're not going to want to initiate on that big bad boy.
Can he arise?
Okay.
Willow TP's out.
I think they still want to fight up potentially.
Niku looking for the first fight.
Well, what's Niku doing?
Yeah, that's not good.
What's that?
He sets it up.
And the cold embrace is going to give him some space, but he gets chopped in the end.
They're going to lose their ages.
And Skeeter was able to burst through Niku.
He still has his ulti ready again, 7 second cooldown on that.
Huh.
Again, the Aegis burned pretty early.
I think it's okay for an Ember kill.
I'm not sure if Starkov, if that was a setup that he was like, I'm going to jump Puskar
and then you cold embrace me and we try to take the 5 after it, but he still died in cold embrace.
He's got chopped up for dinner by PMA
Why not lunch
It's a different time zone
Nice in Europe. Well, it's actually the same time zone is here. So it doesn't really check out
WS has a sheep stick
So blink sheep do you have the damage with skeet? I mean he did he does pack a punch here
Yeah, the next item is going to be nullifier.
Yeah, you technically do have the damage, but you've got to find a clean engage.
That seems to be the biggest problem.
gonna find Kaori. Eighth chop of the game for Puma. And he's pretty close to the heart now.
And he's almost 25, so that's gonna give him another 85 a.l.e. unless he
which is the calling blade damage. Assuming that we will be his choice.
Oh, we did go to calling blade damage.
Okay.
When the brace becomes even less
useful against these uh...
calls. Yeah.
and that's the reason you pick Wyvern.
Navi with a monumental lead down to 23k, a pistol blade for the bear.
Me kill.
He spotted.
They do have the burst, ready?
Not in range to get the nightmare.
A big kill for Marora.
Navi.
Not again.
And that's 86 seconds without the husker.
That's their first Navi moment of the game.
But he was just all the way down mid lane alone.
Did not have protection from the Bane with Nightmare.
I don't know if there's some miscommunication there or whatever, but...
Fortunately, they have a big buffer, so this is not a Game Changer yet, but it could be step one of many.
Yes, you feel invincible, yes you're strong, but you're not able to 1v5 literally,
and you saw no enemy heroes and were two-thirds of the way down the mid lane with no protection.
protections just not at this level can only really consider that a blunder
They're just five man, I don't see what Aurora can do. He had a kill streak
So skater got a lot of gold out of that got like 1100
Yeah, we'll get bushwhack. That's just nullifier. I mean from the grave Niko did finish the AC which in theory makes the
illusions from Darkseer a little bit better
Riddies has agonim scepter for Bane, PMA did finish the heart, so big power spikes for Navi.
Yeah, basically just needs to get a grip on either Clanks or Ember, and job's done for him probably.
The Clanks nullifier, good against a ghost scepter on Riddies, good against the Eul's on Daze.
Well, PMA is going to get the call with a double battle hunger, brain sap, and the chop to come.
Maybe we're starting to get caught in the middle of the map.
A little less costly though.
Yeah, and a little less further up.
In the lane, given what side he's playing on.
But this does provide an opportunity for Navi to maybe do some damage to the tower.
Although it's a minute away from maybe Roche spawning.
I just play it safe.
It's safe. They're just scanning every area of the map with their heroes and not finding anyone, so logical conclusion, they must be in base.
Which is the case. Here comes God the Juice.
Hexing the bear.
Decent damage on it.
I think they're gonna...
Considering how Navi's games have gone this tournament, I would not be surprised if they play a little bit too disciplined.
I think this is fine though. If you don't have the Aegis.
The Grip, you can be found out back here if you can't pull it out. It's a free kill on the Riddies.
Down there completely alone. They get some good vision out, but face the price.
to see how fast Roche spawns because Bane is down for 45 I would have to get
really unlucky here and I'll be so that's a matter he also has buyback now
he just got buyback now so let's see one minute 15 all right
What items are Aurora close to that you think could make a difference?
Wind Waker is what WS is trying to get to, it's very expensive though obviously.
Lincoln's for Skeeter, halfway there.
Ember Axe, pretty good.
Close to that, 400.
Yeah, so he's not going to finish St. Chaot yet.
It's like you need more items to take advantage of Aggs on Ember though.
I mean, it's still really, really good utility, right?
So much faster, better range, more charges. It's a good one regardless.
Aurora, seeing a bear, nothing else though.
on both sides Roche about to spawn. Bear was spotted briefly now in silver edge form
Essence distiller knocked in the proc.
They can finish the job and they will it's an ultra kill for PMA make it a rampage at 25 talent being put to good work
And only two alive for the rest without my back Skeeter last ditch effort to defend
PMA out of mana. He was loved to continue on here
All right, they win that fight eight to one
Now it's our 701 excuse me. It was only four buybacks of which three two were diebacks
important distinction of course I know what a clean engage that fight was over
before it even started PMA is hitting big this game 17 2 and 9 on the axe
just keeps finding good opportunity after the next except when we talk about
it and it's also gonna miss on the clink but he's hit the big ones the
important ones only taking that other talent this has to be megas yeah it's
It's like, this game is just un-undusted. You're up 50k in a moment, almost.
Against the bear, these buildings are not standing a chance.
That's two sets, and why not go for more?
40 seconds essentially for these last two cores to spawn for Aurora.
They have one fortification, like the grinds here.
What are the others? Try to find some flammart there.
So they're going to wait for the magus.
Now they're wish.
Not any other choice.
In case you didn't notice, there was a timestamp on the voice line, or on the voice line, on
the clip.
So you can see when it was said, which was about 50 seconds ago, I wonder what he's saying
now.
It was still the same sequence after they had died.
Sean for Navi and Axe for Axe. And Axe squared.
Smoke from Aurora, they want to contest. I mean, this is the last
agenda for sure. 4v5 with no info. Navi are ready for it though.
They scan out as well. There's the fall. That's fine, Clay.
There's no follow up yet. Instead, the Axe comes onto PMA as
Niku was still just taking out the Roche, and you'll get it.
Nice curse though.
The story felt with some remnants on top.
And a lot of damage does actually... actually does die,
but now you have to worry about...
The Huskar loses the Aegis instantly again, the third time in a row.
Stop getting this big of an Aegis at this point.
Well, he needs it clearly.
I guess.
It's giving him too much confidence.
They find a couple of kills though, and...
Got to walk through the wall.
Yeah, why not?
You can do whatever you want.
Nightmare on StarCraft, Solid, Tont, Gigi is called.
That's game number one.
They look extremely good here.
I'm interested to see if they can actually lay this onto another game,
or if they'll call back the good old fashion lobby that we used to see.
Best game commitment we've cast.
I think everybody in the game played really, really well.
Good laning, good draft, solid movements,
and I think the most impressive thing about this entire game
game was the couple of first team movements Aurora made were completely red and counterplayed
and that set the terms for an easy game for them.
Right, sure.
That makes my job so much harder, I love you, Sunspan.
Navi were just lights out here, we were a little bit reticent to sort of big this up
as a potential contest.
We kind of went heavily towards Aurora, but I mean the difference here was insane.
Yeah, it was pretty massive. We did talk about the drafts that these three cores, plus the two support duo, very strong support duo in this current meta, they have two winning lanes, so you have Lone Druid in the top lane.
He can't really be touched by the heroes, even though we are going to be seeing later the moves that they try to make.
are playing Ember Spirit from behind throughout the whole game.
You are on the receiving end playing in the Huskar matchup,
which makes it very difficult for you to play the game.
And I got to say positioning from Navi's supports
in this game has been top tier.
They've been keeping the distance.
These are two saving or pseudo saving supports
that are terrorized a lot of the time.
This is used aggressively,
but if you look at the way Stoiko jumps in here,
like immediately getting grip as soon as he jumps in,
he is immediately ready to just encrypt him,
Even though he dies, they're going to be able to clean up.
Navi must be such an emotional team, because in the games where they're ahead, they look
like they're playing like, you know, prime top three TI level teams, like genuinely the
tier one of tier one, the way that they were saving each other, like you said, the way
the supports were keeping in the back line, they were holding formation, they were using
other spells correctly, you know, the armlet toggles out of Miku were extremely good. Like everything was
flawless and where this comes from is a successful laning stage. They get this momentum, you know,
they play with this emotion and it's, it's good to see. I hope they can repeat it in another game.
It's very hard to draft and it's free winning lanes though. Yeah, it's one of the, one of the cleanest
games that we've seen them play. A lot of the times there is going to be some random death from Miku,
then they got the juices gonna be caught the PMA is gonna be getting caught in some like weird position as well
Really glad that they also believed in axe. It was a 23rd pick overall in this game
Because they didn't find much success with the hero
They were sitting at 25% one out of four games and PMA definitely delivered also
I think Aurora was in a bit of an issue
Especially with the losing matchup in the mid lane knowing that he's gonna be playing from behind
behind to get the 24 pick that's going to be doing that insane damage.
Like we were talking about the heroes, maybe Tiny, maybe Sven that can't come out.
But Klinks, it's very difficult to play a game where you need to deal the most damage.
Like when you are expected to deal all the damage on the team,
because Darkshear, he had a good game, but also illusions that he's making
from any of these heroes are really not good.
Yeah, it's pretty useless.
And then you are playing into multiple BKB piercing abilities as the only damage dealer on the team.
You're going to get gripped, you're going to get called.
We've seen that so many times in this game where Axe gets the call, they get the kill, sleep, terrorize, grip on top of that.
It just makes it very difficult for Skeeter to play that game.
Just such beautiful drafting from Navi.
Of course, in order to have these drafts work out, you need to have people that can play the heroes.
especially from PMA's position where he didn't see, like you said, what he was
Laning up against and so they just pick him something that's pure comfort and that they know will pair well with the dark willow
Something that they know that they can no matter what have a or they trust that he's going to have a good game on it and
Good lord 17 entry. You can't ask for a better axe game
Can I ask what was it a bit of an error on on a rawrous part because obviously if they know
They're gonna take the ember on stoke of and you know niku will pick a huska. He's done it multiple times
Could they have banned it out? They had one band
They had one day Marcus the problem removed Slark
The other one was left in the pool and seems like they weren't really prepped for this to come out like you could see throughout the game
And they were camping with winter vibing behind once axe or house card gets to jump. It wasn't very effective
Well, we can take a look at some of these early kills that you're kind of alluding
Yeah, these are the kills where they started pretty strong. Three heroes from Aurora, they were trying to get the kill and got the juice, they got the kill on the bear here, getting a good amount of XP, a good amount of gold as well, which is going to transition into them making another rotation in the top lane, they get the kill and got the juice, they get the tower afterwards.
So in these first like 10-ish minutes Aurora, they were making all these right moves to get a bit of a lead
Knowing that they're gonna have an issue transitioning that into mid-game
Especially if they are not gonna be able to get a little bit of a lead in those first 10-15 minutes
And then at 16 minutes, we've got a one of the mid-game team fights
Yes, we do that was also another fight where like the positioning is gonna be the key
They were playing very aggressive Aurora. They are making a move behind enemy lines
And then you see me keeping in a very good spell casting coming up from days in this one the curse
Not really doing that much. It's only on release me to like literally on the edge of that curse
I don't think even gets to kill there
But a little too aggressive for my taste considering what was going on
But I could also understand why they tried to go for this type of a play knowing that if they let them farm
Navi is gonna outscale them and in the end that's exactly what happened like they have better try core that scales into mid the late game
Yeah, you could you could feel the pressure. Yes, you're losing all three lanes. You kind of have to do something
Big you need a movement that's kind of results in like two to three kills
Just one probably isn't enough because then there's two cores on the other sides of the map that are
Freeforming and two cores that are presenting problems. That's what I really like about Navi's draft is that if you solved one of the problems
It's not good enough, right? There was so many between like the loner of the Huskar and acts just the three course were insanely problematic
Yeah, so I mean obviously, you know, they've kind of got to really
Think about what they're going to be doing in this next game because I think Navi have kind of got a very good handle on
Where they're at and how to play to the tempo and play to their strengths as the tournament's gone on
I think this is like
But it sounds like a cliche, but it's the best we've seen them now via this tournament for sure
I think also they got a little like inspired by what the gamer legion was able to do because they are kind of on the same
Level I got to say in the past the season where they needed to step it up
They needed to come up with the drafts
Something that kind of simplifies it where they go together
And these are not the type of the drafts that you'll see other teams have and I kind of respect it
So far they made like zero mistakes other than maybe Niku getting caught one time pretty much
But other than that pretty flawless. That's that's the difficult part is that you not only need, you know, obviously
Good drafts with heroes that are strong, but they need to be heroes that you're highly specialized with and I totally agree
I think they looked at game religion and they saw them playing their own kind of style
Using the new meta stuff and they thought okay, we can do that. Maybe like Lena is only an A tier hero not S tier
But for us, it's S tier, so we're going to pick it.
And look, this uniquely Aurora style.
This is what I was hoping for in that game,
when we didn't get it.
Yeah, maybe they need to go back to their own style
and look at what Navi is doing and go with that.
I mean, the mirror, Nix, has been good.
I mean, yeah, he won four out of four games on that hero.
WS, he has a couple of these specialty heroes
that you always need to look out for.
Night Stalker, I was even calling for the pick,
potentially in the previous game for a different team for Navi, but Lycan, Brewmaster, I think Brewmaster is just a no-go, nobody wants to...
It's not happening.
It's just not happening, it's too strong of a hero in his hands, but gotta be aware in the draft that he can bang out some of these, like these masters, these two heroes that can't take over the lane, take over the game.
Alright then guys, time for a quick break when we come back. We're gonna see if Aurora are gonna bust out some of their pocket picks, whether it's gonna be more of the same. We'll see you in a moment.
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And a question for Andrew came in, and it's a pretty simple one. Why are Aurora using the stand-in?
instead of Kiyotaka because nobody likes playing with Kiyotaka, he throws, he's inconsistent,
he's the eternal envy of Eastern Europe, but by God he's one of my favorite players up
there with Nightfall, it's so fun to watch.
It's just different level, like you don't know what Kiyotaka's gonna do, like at one
point like for the first 25 minutes he can be the best player in the game and then in
the next three minutes he just has like two weirdest deaths of like two weirdest moves
and then it's back to zero.
Ah he missed eternal envy.
Every time his name is mentioned I think back to the games you know we used to watch the
game.
Check out his Twitter actually it's very active on that.
Well he certainly is if you're squeamish don't check it out.
But I will say this obviously too rich for us now.
Too rich to socialize with any of us anymore.
Multimillionaire.
Yep back to you Lacoste.
Over to you Lacoste.
back to me. I want to see how Aurora is going to be addressing some of the issues because
they did lose three games in a row now. They got kind of raffle stomped in some of these
games as well, even though the last one wasn't like 20 minute game that we've seen against
Yandex, but seems like something is just not working out for them. And you're also playing
against Navi. You need to ban some of these more specific heroes in the first phase because
they are going to come out. We're talking about Kez, something that Niku plays from the mid lane,
and then you also have Witch Doctor, Riddy's Witch Doctor, 80% win rate over five games.
Definitely a hero that stabilizes on a lot of laning stage for Navi. Got the juice, he is,
like we've seen some of the performances so far in Malacca, where he takes over the game,
if he's set up for success, where if you're not doing like too much pressure on him,
he takes over the game completely. It was also interesting to see him got the juice that is,
get the draft priority because usually Navi are looking to get Niku's hero out of the way up front
but they saw that loan drew it and they went bam. Yeah, Aldi's just too good. He's on that level of
Is Aurora gonna take it? That's the question. No, never. It's bad. That's good. And question
has been answered. Don't worry. Yes. It's just too good and it's really frustrating to play against
even if you win, you have to invest like an entire draft into countering it and that never feels very good.
Man, Dark Willow Stonks has like been all-time high pretty much. Maybe there was a point
where she was like OP because you could use Bedlam on your ally. So we've seen all of these
blink initiators, especially at the time with Slardar. You just throw it on a hero, they go
in any of the spirits you get to kill. That was a little bit OP, so we nerfed her, but right now
she feels kind of like one of the best position force out there, probably even overshadowing.
Hoodwings, like they seem good a mile of Rubik, Rubik has pretty high win rate, but
I think the Terrorize has been so good at like, yeah, absolutely. These pro E-gamers,
they got so much better at using that. Of course, we got to address one of the big
buffs that she received in the previous patches where the AoE got bigger. So,
like when you get 50, 100 AoE in general on a circle, it means so much. It kind of covers
the area. Yes, exactly. Yeah, 100%. A lot of combos with the Willow as well are very strong,
like lane combos, you know, you have the axe, for example, that we saw last game, Wyvern as well,
if you can hit a curse into terrorize afterwards it's like turning the curse into
something that you can actually deal damage under which is is really nice so she fits the meta
when you see a morana first pick and navi has 13 pick what's the first hero you think of
that's gonna be ember spirit there we go so now the question is what are they banned do they
Ben Slark today, but if they want to go for amber and Slark, you know, it's coming, you know that that house car is going to come out.
So they need to think of, I would say differently. I don't think they can get this here straight away.
Surely if you if you do want to go that way, like, is the Lena Bam absolutely necessary?
Because I know Niku played it three times yesterday, but it wasn't.
It was good. It wasn't like anything spectacular.
I guess they are afraid of maybe like the lane domination they don't want to be
putting Stoikov in a position to be in a losing matchup again so they are
banning it one more time just to give them that extra bit of oomph because
we've seen him play from behind in the previous one it didn't look too good
and this is the hero that we talked about WS he is the hero specialist he is
playing Beast Masters he's playing this Lycan and they are going to be banning
it out because when you see Doom, when you see Marana, these heroes, if they are going
to be kind of going towards a bit of a slower lineup, which I don't think they should because
they had quite a lot of success playing a little bit of faster, you still need to respect this hero.
EarthSpirit is still in the pool as well.
Oh, that is a good call. I mean, Storkov has not played it once and neither has he.
These are like the two teams that have not played one of the most broken heroes of the patch.
Oh man. Oh man, the undying. If only it was for the other side. Then we'd be questioning...
Is it mid? I mean we did see um we did see people banning the undying against Mavi because obviously
it's a flex pick. Niko will play in the mid even though we weren't that impressed when we saw it.
There's a world where like they want an 18 pick earth spirit or something and it's the undying is the hero that
Navi will normally answer the earth spear with it's also very good against doom you can tombstone save somebody from doom
We've seen that you obviously take no damage while you're in the tombstone. So that's a really good way to counter that
Really good in lane against the doom to yes suffers. Absolutely. Did I want to go for bane?
You have the Bane-Murana combo. You have the Bane plus Invoker combination.
If you want to be running that, then you would run Murana as a position for something that they did before.
I would love to see some kind of a setup. Yeah.
It is the best hero here. I agree.
The downside is Tombstone becomes even more valuable with the save because you can cancel the grip with that.
But I agree that that's not a reason that you don't pick one of the most probably the most God tier set up in the game currently for
Sunstrike, but they don't go for it. Okay, they go for a winter wyvern, which is more of a
Invoker other spells set up in the fights. You're hitting the meteor deafening blast
It's great against windranger. Some of the damage is still gonna go through
She built into Mjolnir, but also good way of disengaging a fight when you're playing against the tombstone
If you don't have any other ways
So now, they need to find a way to deal with these two supports.
I gotta say, right now, they don't have the backline jumpers.
Windranger can run in, but she also needs to be careful running into tornado and to doom.
She needs some kind of a help.
So, Storm looks amazing here.
It's one of Stoikov's most played heroes.
And it's the Winter Wyvern jumper.
Also a hero that's very good against Invoker.
Like, you need to jump this hero as well.
Three heroes need to be jumped, and Doom can struggle against Storm.
I know with the congregations of the Deep, we have seen Dooms kill Storm.
Okay, they go for the Ember.
Scott, that was in the pool.
Yeah, a lot of good heroes were left in the pool.
This time around, they had to switch things up.
Witch Doctor, Lina, even Kaz getting priority,
Centaur getting priority in the second banning phase.
I would be down Nightstalker.
We saw the WS does play it.
I would love to see it ruins Invoker in a lot of these pre-BKB,
maybe even a 4-staff on Invoker,
depending on how the game would develop.
One of the best vision heroes against Winter Vibrant.
Just have that extra bit of a catch.
Play with the Ember Spirit.
I really do like the Ember here.
I feel like they have a lot of poke damage,
which can be really obnoxious.
It makes playing fights a lot easier
when you can just kind of throw some decays out,
hit a chains, maybe if you hit two targets,
you can like terrorize, throwing brambles out,
you're not really committing anything.
And then if you get something good,
then you can drop the tombstone, you can go in.
It's another way to deal with these like backliners
where you're picking and choosing your fights correctly.
Yeah, and also just really hard to pin down,
you can dodge the arrow, you know.
Yeah, it's so hard to do an Ember.
For all the reasons that I was talking about with Storm,
member is even harder to get a grip on get a grip Tom yeah getting a grip most
definitely on this draft a little like they have some AOE but relatively single
target oriented on Aurora compared to Navi which does have big cars doom
congregations of the deep later on Invoker spells quite a lot of control on
their side, but they have the spells from the distance. Ember setting things up when
Rangers, you can be like 2k range away, still use the power shot, contribute to the fight,
shearing chains into Bramble, into terrorize, very potent combo to bring any hero pre-BKB
from 100 to 0.
So do you think Aurora then wants to pick more of a teamfighter to round out their draft?
like offline. I mean not not tight 100s as bad against doom but something something in that line of thinking
what they they enigmas actually still in the pool however you're playing in a wyvern which is a bit rough
it's a counter i'm down for night stalker i feel like he could take over the game uh
landing phase of course sometimes can be difficult you also have another pick that you can pick
afterwards you like you're picking it blindly but uh i feel like it could come out you don't
believe in it. No, just he kept saying pick and what he's doing on the screen. You're not looking at the
Oh, I mean, underlord, underlord would have been good as well. More of like beefy front lining.
I do like the idea with the Knights, Dr. Just seems like seems I don't believe in it like our boy speed
does, you know. Yep, speed and dumb on the same page. Yeah, super good against the supports. WS played
it once so one of the reasoning why I'm mentioning because he does seem to believe in the hero. Yeah
I love naga siren as an answer to it just preemptively to be a great
setup for sun strike as well. I really think some of these
offlaners that are being picked because shadow fiend is no longer in the pool
can get countered by carries that also were not being picked because shadow fiend was in the pool
and nobody wanted to play these other carries. I think there's a whole world of
of carry meta that can evolve.
They go for Timber into Invoker Doom.
It's so many games now.
We see people picking Timber into counters.
And Navi, they can, like, they could,
no, there's no Ursa.
But they have a counter pick here, right?
Well, what's, got the juice counter to the...
He didn't play Luna yet,
but not the greatest hero against Dark Willow.
It's very good in the lane like it's I think it might be good for the game
They want to speed the tempo you have some faceless void. You got the faceless way you got the combo invoker combo
The the W against timber just ravages him and you know this guy wants to play void
He played it once. Yeah, already that game
It's the Eastern European classic you got to play TV
It's a TB game where, like, this is the Scotty Buyer, this is a hero that can't stand his ground,
has pretty much support from every single hero, but we're talking about the Doom,
items that they're buying, Alacrity on top of them. We've seen quite a lot of Timbersaw
getting picked, especially day one of the playoffs, into a lot of counters and it didn't end well for
No, it did not. I think it was all in full about that. I believe so. Yes
That mean they did get lost pick Timber you would expect
You'd expect the timber player
WS says yeah, it's a good timber game. You know, you got you got to trust him
If I guess if he soaks the doom they have undying to save from that
Which is nice and timber is also more long-range poke damage
especially if he gets a blink tagger you can kind of just use all your stuff and then
and like blink in, use all your stuff
and then jump yourself out with the chain.
That's pretty nice.
And terribly does not.
He's not the answer.
Like early on, especially with Winter Wyvern,
these heroes don't really threaten
a kill on Timbersaw.
WS being more experienced Timbersaw player,
I could also see potentially just having a Timber chain
in case the way the lane plays out,
that he needs to get out of the trouble.
But I think Aurora, they saw that game one
and they're like, yeah, we can't have three losing lanes.
So they pick for the lane, you have Timbersaw, you have Dark Willow, and you also have super
strong safe lane with Undying and Windranger as a core.
Yeah, that's true.
I will go back to the point we keep talking about with Navi though, where we like to see
them pick to their strengths.
We like to see them just picking stuff that makes sense for their draft.
And the TB clearly to me looks like that because it does not answer the Timber at all.
Timber will be totally fine.
WS free game at least in the laning stage
But they felt like a fit for the draft and they just went for it like I really liked that
Well, we might be able to get some insight about the drafting. I will throw you over to no man on the sidelines now
Thank you Richard. Yeah, mr. KP. I mean firstly go talk about game one a little bit
I want to know Stoikov. He's a pretty chill guy. You've said right pretty quiet
But what was his reaction to when you gave me ember and then he got Husqvarth?
It was all expected the Nico is a Oscar player, but
There's a reason Husker's not meta and if we just won one of the fights it would have been over but we didn't so unfortunate.
Fair enough, fair enough. Well coming into this game number two, what was your goal with this draft and did you achieve it?
Our goal of this draft was to win the draft and I believe I achieved it.
Is that it? No specific thing you wanted to do this game, nothing you wanted to enable your players to accomplish?
nah just win the game for me please thank you please I mean is this a better
chance to gain a one do you like your tools more this time around honestly
if I were to like look at the birth drafts I think they're like equally like
as winnable yeah so nothing out of the ordinary nothing out of the ordinary
alright one last question then about Navi's draft okay is there any holes
you're looking to exploit there is there any weaknesses you think you could get
behind.
Holes.
I mean, I feel like all three lanes are decent for us, so I think they can choose to play
any lane.
We can play with Timber 6.
We can play with Ember, like Chain, and then Willow stuff, and then we can play on bot
lane because bot lane is going to win.
Yeah.
Sounds good.
Sounds good.
Alrighty.
Well, let's see how it goes.
Can Aurora equal things out?
Or will it be Navi?
Take the 2-0.
Let's find out with Sunspan and Cinderant.
too. KP didn't really want to reveal too much there. That was uh, almost like getting
an interview with Ami. Not the case. What do you think of these rafts in the run?
Uh, I think overall it's pretty even. I think the main thing that stands out to me is that
the tricorps of Navi looks quite greedy. Doom, Invoker, and Terrorblade runs the risk of
of getting outpaced in this game. Now if they don't, obviously their light game is outstanding.
I would have a hard time voting against Navi's line of winning down the stretch, especially
since Murana becomes this true late-gamer as well, all of a sudden as a support, level
22 with X. They have so much damage and so much control later in the game, but until
they get to that point, it's possible that this time around you get to see why Starkov
likes playing Ember so much because he gets to play a hero this game. The Invoker match-up
It's a lot more palatable and like KP said in the coach interview, they should just win their bottom lane.
So, I mean, it's comparatively to game one to actually have just better conditions.
Sounds strike.
Okay, I hit.
Last time we cast Niku, he had some highlights.
Yep.
He doesn't really have the greatest setup though for Sunstrike.
That's right. That's an extra part of why this is great, is you don't even have reliable ways of using that made Invoker.
Sometimes you can compensate for having three greedy quarts if the supports of like really good stun setups
That allow you to land some strikes and get kills, but yeah, they don't really have it
Have Sam's can be set from Marana
Yeah, exactly. So their line. It was a little bit of a mixed bag here
And what worries me for now be aside from the greed is also ease of execution
I think this lineup is pretty hard to play in my opinion specifically because of how
It feels like two or three of their heroes are kind of waiting for each other a lot of the time that
What makes games a lot easier to play as a clear-cut initiation
Means of initiation or means of saving and they have neither, right? You're called embrace
I don't really think that's going to save people from Timbersaw will all this game
And as far as initiation goes you have nothing
So quite tricky
First blood goes to skier on the windrunner
very tough lane to deal with and
And what about the Timbersaw? They picked this Timbersaw and it's against the Doom, not great in the mid to late game.
But then the Terrible is picked after the Timbersaw which, historically speaking, Timber is good against the TV late game.
Yeah.
Again, it's a bit of a mix because at the same time Terrible is one of the carries that has enough physical energy to actually kill the Timber when he's doomed.
doomed which might have been what they were thinking was we this timber is
going to be a problem how do we solve it between chairblade and voper you have a
lot of different damage types it's all right I don't it's not particularly
inspiring to me this TV pic but it's it could get the job done
ramble now it's got the juice and harassed down to relatively low but
Riddies is there with the heal, of course.
Have you yet to see the witch doctor for Navi so far?
Is it banned, actually?
I don't remember.
Well, that's a good point, though.
It probably was.
It would be weird if they gave up on that.
All of a sudden.
Yeah, after one loss?
Yeah.
And they won the next game with it, right?
Yeah.
So I think they're 4-1.
One of his favorites, the Undying, who is seeing a little bit as an off lane every now
and then, mostly a support with that crazy save in the shard.
I'm going to come in to play this game.
First game of the tournament for him.
So, for a WS perspective, I did want to talk about this for the Timber, as Shadowroom
is going to do something if he got the juice.
Sing less and less aggantive scepter on this hero.
Yeah.
Is that just worse than it was before,
or is it just dependent?
I feel like it's dependent.
The thing is, maybe...
Bad against Invoker, I guess, right?
Yeah, it's less good against him than other heroes,
but a lot of the time you cover your axe with BKB.
So you buy BKB first, and then you get axe,
and then you feel like you can just go into anything.
But in this game, you could even get doomed.
So that kind of just purges it off, right?
Even through BKB.
So it's not easy for him.
In general, I've been wondering the same thing, actually, I don't really know why it fell out of favor as much as it did. I think it's still very good, occasionally.
Perhaps it has to do with something like Dispersor being purchased more by some carry heroes. We've seen that today, both Ami and Tamato actually bought it in their games.
But again, if you cover with BQB, does that really matter that much, I don't know.
Peori.
We boxed out of his pull here by PMA and Dayes.
Nice arrow.
Good damage.
I might actually have him here.
P.
Offs the Lotus trying to stay alive when he burns to the ground, as you can see, Ritty
is coming in from the south.
The Arctic burn.
The TP forced onto Navi's side as well, Mira.
Ame is going to be fine, pulling a full wave and catapult.
What did I say? He's going to be fine. That's a power shot now. Blood to day with a shadow
realm. Really nice kill. That's beautiful. Excellent utilization of everything they had
in the bag there. That's now the second death for PMA on his
doom. Mid lane is going well for Nikko. We've seen invokers lose a lot of lanes this tournament.
but actually winning here, nice concoction.
Tornado is a setup, but it's not like, you know, it's not reliable, but in that situation it couldn't really fail.
17 denies against the 3 of Ember is quite impressive.
So, Stoikov again, losing mid, this time less obvious than the previous game, but one of the lane matches that Invoker can win.
We're going for a very early ATOS, by the way. That's very cool.
It's a bit of a different build than we've seen everybody rush the
Meteor Hammer, but this is him recognizing the
issues that I was pointing out earlier that they don't have the most in the way of setting up
fights while Invoker can do it by himself if he goes
this build. Is that the first time this tournament? It gets bought first.
It might be. If every Invoker has gone hammer.
I wouldn't be surprised.
Very good against Ember, and to some degree, Timbersaw as well.
And then you can eventually just turn it into the Glypnir,
which we have seen later in the game.
It's an alternative way of getting AoE instead of Sheeva's.
The Ori will steal.
Yeah, that's big.
Pesky Thief gets the wisdom.
Skitter runs over a creep wave to see them.
And now have a very weird sandwich.
which nobody wants to eat.
He's on the verify to survive.
He may still only level five here.
Scorch Earth is doing a good amount of damage,
but arrow arrow side step.
Very close.
Topside off the first damage on the got the juice.
The trucker was going to finish the job.
And that is exactly why the timber saw
so good against this terrible.
at least at the stage of the game.
Yep.
The level advantage going away of Aurora in every lane but mid.
This is a game where if Doom doesn't have too good of a start,
Timbersaw could just get out of control,
and I know they also have Invoker, but we've just,
in spite of that,
my sample for watching this hero just own
WS?
This is from Guns of Juice, but the Bramble is gonna keep them pretty far, Sunstrike is dodged.
WS still burning to the Arctic burn.
He has phase boots.
Might be fine.
On right click, is it gonna miss?
No.
No.
Not enough damage anyway.
Yep.
It's close though, 15 HP.
So that's...
Meta used.
And another missed Sunstrike.
was coming, they're gonna take off the plane guard, Aero, and the death of Stoikov.
Very good combos from Navi, they get the second onto Mira as well.
Skeeter shows up though with the focus fire, but he doesn't have vision as he goes invisible,
and now Skeeter's gonna get doomed as PMA makes an appearance, and that's three kills for Navi.
I'm really impressed with their tornado into Aero setups.
Like I was saying, there's no obvious setup this game, but depending on the level of tornado,
Obviously on level one it's going to be the same duration all the time with the, or I
say that, no it's scaling with the Quas, so every level of Quas makes this
different and they are just nailing them back to back here even though Niko has
different levels of tornado. It was not one I was really considering much.
I mean I know it's a play but they are getting max value out of it, that's two
in a row. Niko and Daze. Great series for Daze so far. It's been in all five kills this
game, last game on Willow, he was my MVP. So, woke up to win today. Niko going to put
his pressure onto bottom, another play around. Aero Nado. Not to be mistaken for Shark Nado,
which is of course the best move of all time according to SunSpinTV.
This is one movie I have not seen.
Wow, really?
Yeah.
I've seen one.
I've seen nine, but...
I was going to say...
There's no way you've seen it.
No.
That one's like absolute trash.
Regent for Strykov.
I think they made a sequel, too, somehow.
Hmm.
What's that called?
Sharknado 2.
Sharknado 2.
Rolls right off the top.
Sunstrike does hit PMA, not going to be able to close the gap any further.
Oh, good power shot.
the juice looks like they just want to push the tier one but there is a TP
coming Mara Bramble terrorized to follow with the power shot it's like a
dead doom Holden Brace not gonna do much and Riddies puts himself in a bit of a
weird spot but they won't go any further
we'll be the drums on the doomsa no greedy coming out of this one yeah that's
good I don't think you want to go mitis or radians here with the heroes that you
have what's the win-way with win-way with mitis this term anything less than 50%
hey I mean I've been saying I genuinely think the item is an almost nothing
but and never buy except on ogre and arc warden I just I don't know it never
really impressed the purchase sure slark mid at my one without a two ATOS after
In fact, he's just gonna burn the meatball.
Now, a tier one tower for Niku, who's having a very strong start to this game.
I'll say, no matter what, it's so refreshing to see Invoker being played without meter ammo.
Can I just say it?
Like, this takes me back.
He's actually ganking with Tornado and landing Ato's combos.
Very nice that this is not fully dead.
Unlike WS.
Ato's is a better target.
Oh my arrow hit the happy Ato's target so far.
Alright, my bad, I called the kill, I should have known.
Cinderant, we've had this talk before, still, targets are the hardest to hit sometimes.
You're so far off too, it's like 300 range.
You're so used to getting these 360 no-scopes.
He lands the tornado arrows and then he was 8-toast.
Wow, time to...
That's unfortunate because he's the top member of the game.
need to blow the sensor of the mouse check if there's a hair stuck under there
it happens days we'll break the smoke nicely done and then my shadow
immediately popped he's out it's like that that move is dead this seems to be
a pattern in Aurora games similar to last game they like making these moves
and really bringing Skeeter to them but Navi are good at reading once again
that these plays are coming and will not get caught
Niko now with the boost to travel.
So what do you want to see out of him after this point?
I'm so unused to seeing this build.
It's so funny.
It's a decent BKB game, I think, against Timber, Ember, Willow, it's a lot of value in that.
Could consider an early Octorine perhaps.
You mentioned the Glidemere.
I don't think you buy Glidemere right away.
I think you get an intermediary item first.
Yeah.
Yeah, any of those is fine. Maybe BKB is a little bit too pessimistic and you just go for the Octorine and try to really run the game.
Not sure what else really is interesting. I don't think he's buying eggs. He's definitely not buying shard.
The cataclysm doesn't sound too hot this game.
No.
It's good with Glide here though.
Yeah, that's true. It is decent.
When you do go this build over hammer you actually set yourself up, but yeah, he's clearing up the BKB so
It's fine. I don't mind it
PMA is just a couple hundred gold off of blink dagger and the
Opposite side in WS it'll be the same Chiya start it seems
And spare that's almost finished with Stoikov no charges though
Why does one die and eat the runes?
He picks up an arcane rune and says, my belly bursts.
That's their gummies.
Really?
Yeah, that's the lore.
Oh, he thinks everything is gummies or the runes?
Everything.
Okay.
That makes sense.
Zombie, he eats anything?
Other than plants, probably.
Just like me.
Yeah, that's more similarities between the two of you than you'd think.
I love gummies too.
Yep.
A lot.
I'm sure to take those magnesium gummies before bed, everybody.
Delicious.
We'll talk about Skeeter's build or Got the Juice, but these are super, super cookie-cutter.
Pretty much no variation in any of the games that we're seeing.
This is a bit unfortunate, so I'm going to see more.
We have seen a couple of the Hydra's Breath, but it doesn't feel like it's that popular
versus the Mjolnir, which is like 95%
Yeah, he could. That happened in a previous game as well against TerraBlade. Did the Ami do that?
I think he bought Mjolnir and yeah, he did. He bought Mjolnir and Dragon's Breath, that game.
Link's Skeeter will do the same, if it gets to that point.
A rare pause.
What do you think about being able to buy a Giants ring?
That's a very random question.
Just thinking.
So you want to make it an item?
Yeah, it's like really expensive.
Like 6.0, 6.0 something K.
Oh, what does it give?
Same as Giants ring.
That sounds really OP.
Okay.
Make it worse.
Well, the terrain walk has to stay.
Okay.
The bigger has to stay, I'm sure.
You want to be bigger.
The bigger scale.
Yeah.
You just lower the numbers on how much damage it does.
Okay, and then mount the strength and whatever.
Yeah.
I mean, terrain walking item does sound like something that should be really expensive.
Yeah, well, that's 6.5k.
Yeah. Well, who can even obtain it?
Dragon Knight?
Oh, terrain walking, I mean.
DK can get it with X.
Well, that's not very important discussion.
They have to have curse only onto one, but they get the doom, and that's a dead soy cop.
Again, Na'Vi, they're gonna be able to take out this tombstone.
Eventually, one more right click does it.
He's going to stay alive, tornado on tip two, as Kaori taking a ton of damage with the infernal blade.
He's still dying.
Two dead now for Aurora.
Chase is on the skier, but he gets the distance, although the essence is stiller.
We'll give them a little vision.
If he gets Atoes off, this is a possible kill.
Oh, he does.
Atoes into arrow, into Sunstrike.
This time they hit the arrow.
Well, Starstorm knocked quite enough, the infernal blade from PMA finishes the job.
They get the first damage from WS.
They need to get the kill again, he stays alive with the fairy fire, first crowd of tornado, beautiful timing he had with the Shadow Realm, is enough to finally bring the invoker to his knees.
And WX, well, who's a couple now onto Navi? The damage rune very, very tempting to take as Stoicop will not do it.
Got the juice now.
It's far enough away as his Manta is now delivered.
It really feels like Navi have leveled up as a team from yesterday to today. It's really good to see.
LoveNiku's play so far in this game, yes he ends up dying there. Pretty much played his heart out under those circumstances.
Landed everything he could.
Still though, dead-even game in spite of those plays.
Ladies? Hello.
You're fine. Red X's. Mark the spot for him.
Yeah, which ability do you think is good?
Uh, something with Timbersaw.
Okay.
What would it be? Could it be the purple blade?
That's new.
Oh, but he's done the whirling death.
Yeah.
Hmm.
It must not be him, actually.
Maybe it's Wyvern, dying in Arctic Burn or something.
Could be it.
Whose shoes would you rather be in right now?
Probably Navi.
Because my concern with their strategy was if they would get run at too much early and would be playing too greedy, but they're breaking even with Doom and Voker terribly.
That's a pretty good sign.
Dota Plus would also rather be Navi's shoes, 80-20.
But there's no way that's true.
They get the steering chains, first to follow, only on the one though, the Doom target they find that's a great tombstone.
The tombstone though, gets grabbed, allied, jumps back out, and it's got the juice shows up in melee form, not that fearsome after all.
Niku, Tornado's going to take off the flamethrower. It's two with it actually.
He's dusting it though.
He wants to aggress, they get the steering chains with the damage coming out from WS. It's more than enough and finally Niku dies.
Very, very important Tombstone Shard picked up there by Kaori, changed everything.
Probably a dead Timber saw, and not only that, they also missed the arrow, it actually flew through him as the Tombstone came out, so...
That key spell unavailable for the rest of the fight, it was meant to get them their big entry on the Timber now, that's a problem they're gonna have to address.
Fireball!
What's your favorite?
Yup.
Especially Pitbull.
It's a song.
I was going to say it must be a song.
It's the only thing you know.
Thank you so much.
Your knowledge is...
You know nothing?
Your knowledge is music and Dota.
That's it.
Okay.
You can't even check your phone for the weather.
That's how.
Yeah, I don't know how to.
I'm afraid.
If you don't value it, which is weird.
Okay.
That's really weird.
That's really weird.
That's alright.
I come from a country where we're used to having very shifting weather,
so we're just less susceptible to weakness.
Okay.
Unlike you, a pitiful individual, nice try to get two or seven attempts in a row,
but calls snap too good.
Fortunately, he instantly responds, so he gets to try again.
WS working on now.
Nothing. What's his next big item, Sheeva's?
Yeah, probably. Pretty good this game.
BKB, as it seems.
The other option. I mean if you get doomed you can probably still survive the dodge all of Invoker's garbage.
Plus Marana.
This has been a very, very unsuccessful game for Skater.
Yeah, his farm is atrocious. It just looks like, okay, what's he going after Miel? He doesn't even have Miel?
Yeah, it's because he's been part of these moves that just haven't worked and when you do that as a carry
It's very on brand for skater to be active and involved early
But again in this Navi series
They've done such a good job of reading those macro plays and they come at a heavy cost when you don't connect two or three times in a row
In addition to that he's died twice in the ones that did turn into a fight
So yeah, he is very very far behind got the juice here about 3k
And of course means terribly could be outpacing you by one item and that one item could be MKV.
They all right. It's dying.
It's about the century. It'll pop the dust.
Yeah.
Scares them away as he turns into a big zombie man in the WS.
We're gonna close the gap now. It's a ready. It gets jumped on.
Looking for the doom, but not gonna get it off.
Gets feared instead.
Got the juice on the run in metaphor.
That might break up the fight.
Yeah, he ended up not using the Doom, because he didn't have enough backup.
Does that feel like the game WS is going to need Lincoln's at some point?
I know you don't like BKB Lincoln's in general, but I feel like not only it gets Doom, but more so even the Sunder,
just an incredible target to go for.
Oh, you blocked that with BKB.
Jackal?
With the focus fired from Skeeter, maybe he's going to try to turn this around, though, getting the sun strike.
So he has to try to finish the double and he can, they will trade lives, which in favor of Aurora at this stage, as WS is absolutely destroying double kill for him, and now his BKB on the way.
Yeah, he's the real carry of Radiant right now. Well, he's the only one who's having a good game, so I guess that speaks for itself.
And this, honestly, that might be a big part of the win expectancy that you were like, no way.
is you look at the gold and you look at the heroes, but Timbersaw against this dire lineup is not a given winner
without secondary heavy damage artillery because he can just get to him. He can just get overwhelmed
annoyed by the invoker.
So it is very good news for them that he is having a good game because imagine if he wasn't this farmed.
Yeah, then the game would look quite grim, but
they've managed to stabilize it. A fun little gold graph in this game oscillating right now.
Oh, he's dead.
And a death, and a waste of TP.
And it's ready, he's gonna take some burst from WS, there's the Succer from God of Juice, not the greatest arrow.
Getting healed up via the Solriff, WS is more than 5, has an Essence Ring on top of all that.
Yeah, he's not dying right now.
Oh, he's on his way to a Blink Dagger as well.
I think they can't kill him without doing him, actually.
Even at 1v4, he'll probably just BKB and leave.
Refuse to elaborate
Niku has PKB now, so Timber's gonna have a much harder time taking him out
Those feel like a game where when these triple PKBs come out from Navi, that's when Aurora are
potentially in a lot of trouble
Love to burn this first PKB charge on Niku
No tree there buddy
It's like he's fine. Okay, if the only
The only core for Aurora that's doing anything is hard counter by BKB. When these triples come out, let's just pay attention.
So the Valker has one. Terribly it's not even killing one off anytime soon apparently. That's kind of surprising.
The Doom is almost done with his though, so we'll have to double.
I think it's a good idea not to buy it on TP. I think the other two need it, so I don't mind it.
Terribly it is so heavily reliant on getting stats.
Probably. Would you agree of all time in Dota, it's the best Scotty hero to exist? I feel like it is.
Probably. I have to think about that for a bit.
Sketer will get the first Aegis, so Aurora, strike first on Roche.
I feel like Terribly just genuinely bought Scotty for like 15 years.
20 years at this point.
Even in worse iterations, when it was weaker, terribly, it was still one of the carries that would pick it up regardless.
It's so good on this round.
So no surprise to see him going for here, and then the next Q'd up item is MKB, and then a Blade of Alacrity, which I assume is...
What is that actually for?
I guess the...
Does he want Hydra's breath against Timber?
Maybe.
I've been seeing more Hydros with this tournament than I thought we would.
Are you just picking it up?
No, maybe Terrible will get it after MKB.
I'm just looking at his hook, quick buy.
But now that we see the secondary item.
Yeah, looks like it is indeed.
Cured up the Specialist's Array next after.
We'll see.
Alright, Aegis was claimed freely there from Aurora, no contention, and they will put
to use immediately, opting to put the Aegis on the Windrunner. Kind of interesting. Definitely
consider WS considering how much stronger he is right now than anyone else in his team and that
they can kind of only kill him with Doom, give him the second life then, and just run Rampen, but
putting it on Wind. I kind of like this because he's already so hard to kill even with all that
and the Windrunner, how is she getting back in this game? The second life in theory could help.
Yeah.
Man, look at that level description. He's 19 on timber.
Second is 17 on ember, and then everyone's 16 on the dire.
Still Dota plus heavily favoring dire. I do as well, maybe not that much, but...
later the game goes the more you have confidence in a lineup like this yeah
like win ranger can't drop off the it's not like a huge drop off we're gonna mess
nice movement from Mira stay safe at some point timber hits a critical mass
and then just doesn't improve anymore.
That's the way I look at it.
Yeah, that's kind of true for the most part.
There's a type of game that Timbersaw can carry at like 17 minutes, but I don't think it's this one.
Just the matchups are too lopsided, right?
The fact that BKBs get shorter kind of goes both ways for that hero though.
So I guess bad for him that he doesn't get the protection that long put enemy heroes being out of BKB
means you can actually do something.
So far, not much movement with this Aegis.
No. Just farming. Which, again, I don't know if that's the key to winning this game.
But I suppose, given how this series has gone so far and how Roars moves have worked out,
they're maybe a little bit timid about Navi just seemingly reading them at every turn
and taking a bad fight would be infinitely better than taking none, obviously.
I don't want to give anything over for free to this lineup, me too.
Trying to get a combo going here, not enough whatsoever with that sequencing of spells.
Need some meteor in there.
What's he going for next?
Just a shard.
Yep.
Is that the EMP?
I'm assuming it's EMP, yeah.
Swap was nerfed heavily and the Sun Strike putting a Forged Spirit.
Think about how trash that Shard is without Ags.
Like without Scepter, that has to be one of the worst Shards in the entire game.
One Forged Spirit if you hit a Sun Strike.
Unless, I mean, if you hit three heroes, okay, but how likely is that?
That's pretty bad.
It's real bad.
Like there's a lot more work to be done on these Ags and Shards for him, honestly.
Yep, I would agree with that.
Really cool stuff you could do.
Also considering his other spells, right?
Both boss and wax upgrade different abilities,
but on XOR both of them are Sun Strike related.
They could maybe make, you know, you could make a meteor shard,
or you could make a forge spirit shard.
Arrow sidesteps.
Tempid juice gets a reflection.
Manta dodge is the shackle shot.
I'm trying to wait out this Aegis. This arcane rune. So I guess this metapop matters less
Aegis is expiring now.
That's the juice leading the way. He's not afraid
Starts it out with the Bramble. Oh, Mansa's in front of the Bramble.
Hammer right on top
It's like they're trying to force him to use BKB when he doesn't have one. Yeah, game of chicken there
Now smoke from Aurora.
They want to try to take advantage of Meta being down.
It's a relatively narrow window though because of the Arcane Run.
They only have like about, what's that, 30 seconds to take this fight?
And again, Navi just seemed...
...aware every time.
Yeah, there's no connections being made.
Reddies, his wings don't quite reach the other side of the trees.
He's going to get out as well.
Another dodged gank.
The meantime, Daze is outside the enemy base, bottom pushing in the waves.
Just full control for them.
Would be cool to see Navi do well here in this tournament.
They've had so many what-ifs.
They've had one second place finish at a tournament.
I believe it was earlier this year or it was at the end of last year.
Aside from that, not really much to write home about on the podium.
Just seem to always...
They've had a lot of good group stages, and then when Push comes to show, just not really having that X factor,
but seems like something they've been working on. I've been quite impressed with them today.
Even if they end up losing this series, I still think this has been a different Navi than what we've seen in playoffs of the past.
Yeah, no doubt.
So that's good.
Good mention, Daze is not really playing for the late game in terms of...
Oh yeah, he's not going to X.
That's very surprising considering he's against Timber.
It feels like the magic damage would be very welcome here,
but opting to go more of a utility route
with Eul's and the Hex.
Box of control.
That would have been an easy wave clear with an X.
Let's see if he had them.
And then away from knowing when Rosh is up.
Really?
PMA gets the Sheebas.
I mean, I understand you want the hex against Ember, but isn't that maybe in Volker's job for now, and then you get your axe?
It's also, if your expectation in this game is that it's going to go late, you're kind of just value-owning yourself by not getting a bigger item, no?
Value-owning?
Yeah, you just...
That's a cool phrase.
You're just cutting yourself out of getting stronger.
Did you make that up?
No.
Take credit for it. I like that.
It's poker terminology.
Oh, I see.
Well, good yule. This time it might work out, Meteor. No, no chaining.
I believe he got the chains off of Marana there so she couldn't get distance for the arrow.
Now both sides have Ashivas with WS picking it up.
He's right on top of me too. Popping that E on this already, moonlight shadow.
He's going to do the jump behind the top of me, KB. He's going to try to run.
He feeds out, he's fine. He's not so much.
And it's a pretty fast rush, 30 seconds away.
British will basically be up by that point, but they'll probably have some really good heroes for scouting roach, they've got Tornado, Sunstrike, Arrow, Conjure Image.
It's not a lineup you sneak it against now. You've got the first one, sure, but the second one will even roar, so...
I think that's gonna be a tall order.
For Aurora to snag that, and with every passing minute, the ticking time bomb of Doom comes
ever closer.
PMA is farming with this lovely dragon creep.
Dragon dees nuts all over the neutral camp, sub doing that.
MKB for Got the Juice, so has an answer for Winrunner's Evasion.
Oh, Stygoth? Okay.
Heal, no arrow, no leaps.
He'll pop a huge Lotus and then we'll just die after.
That's not going to save him.
WS, Wicked Sick now.
At what point does Timbersaw hit his cap, would you say?
Well, he's one of the heroes that you can absolutely obviously get an axe synth on.
Team stone.
Are they actually just going to let them have it?
They're not close at all, so yeah.
Wow, that's actually quite surprising to be given their life.
They're just selling this row, shall we? Just buying time.
In the meantime, also getting caught here, Mira finds EMA.
Nice personal to hold the Timbersaw play.
EMA's going to pop the DKB thinking he can maybe get away
attempting to teleportation.
He's fine, actually.
Yeah, it's not like Timbersaw's going to do any damage to them.
Ready is again hot off guard. Seems to be the sacrifice for Navi this game.
Just like nothing is changing this game for 15 minutes. That's good except they
got another they got another Aegis now let's see if they can put it to use for
the side of Aurora. Still heavily in favor of Navi apparently.
There's a save though, and you can see the route onto Nico trying to get away pops that E on this to WS
Trying to get to the high ground. I saw gonna be a lot of issues for them in PMA
Looks like he's the one to die. They could just jump in and get
And that's some strike will clip Skeeter he's gonna survive it seems
That first life still available to Stoick up all alone on the high ground
Caught unsuspectingly by that glide mirror next to Turquoise Meadow. That's gonna be the end of that
What an awkward situation that, when all is said and done, I don't think he can ever kill in here.
I guess I'm swinging 2KHP, I don't think Invoker Solo's that.
A bit sloppy from both sides, but...
I don't know, who came out ahead on that one?
We were buying 9 for the Terrorblade to continue the farm, I suppose.
But we're not opting for the overwhelming Blink Max, it seems.
Arora did get the better kills and they retain their Aegis, I guess, advantage them, but it's so inconsequential that
once again, nothing really changed in the game. Hex for WS could be a difference maker. He's now also 25, so temper chain
range and projectile speed is his choice. Very mobile now.
Over the whirling death tree bonus damage, which can sometimes be bizarre.
I had him almost killed in Boker there if you had the other talent. No joke. Like how many trees did he cut there? 10 maybe?
So that would have been 750 pure.
What's close?
A lot of time you're just killing the trees with Chalker beforehand though.
Yeah, I mean it's obviously... the other one feels more reliable but the right one can be kind of crazy.
And look at that temperature. How can you pass that up?
It's hard to pass them
It's the same on dawnbreaker you and like yeah the starbreaker one is really good for the hammer one feels so good to have
Both of those towns very strong
He's bursting and they get out with their lives
Bays leads up to the high ground gets taxed though. That's the WS for deal. Me too
Nothing to run and this again
First is gonna hold him in place, has got Nadeus gonna show up with the Mad Hortis,
is trying to use the right click against Kalei, just get deleted!
Nadeus, is he gonna continue the fight?
Skeeter completely out of mana, now next to the EMP, and dying is back up and running
thanks to the Enepo.
It can't quite catch Nadeus, it's all a Sun Strike, they're gonna be on first down this
time.
Finally the Doom comes out with the right clicks to follow, they get the connections, and Skeeter
is gonna be life number one, but they can surround him.
He has BKB and no TP though.
Definitely blasted way off target, Skeeter with a BKB.
It's off the shackle.
Red E's, no curse to work with.
Skeeter's extremely quick to climb here.
It's up for a little bit.
Tornado does hit in the end for Niko.
That should be enough, Skeeter.
We'll go down and that is going to be effectively
a full team wipe outside of the Kaori insta respawn.
Niko is playing so well this game, honestly.
I'm very impressed.
And now God to choose can really put these items to work.
Almost done with the Hydra's breath as well.
He's going to be completely six-slotted.
Yup.
Niko is about Niko's hex.
And this is that classic temper saw on Undrum.
If you're the only strong hero and you get doomed, then what?
two or three is dead 35 seconds of no timbersaw this is a lane of bearings for sure
52 cents if they are brave enough to go bottom
paradise to try to delay
yeah considering some of their losses and I don't know if they go for two
no they might just chill
beam and zeal we'll finish the job here
Let's see what they have to do.
Actually, they delayed them longer than I thought they would on that mid, so I agree 100% with just taking the one.
It's good enough.
Here comes that Hydra's breath, and now, 7th item, BKB, Kira forgot the juice.
Alright, huh?
Just in case he's gonna need it for anything.
Does Valiant hire than a Swift Link plus Ag's combination?
So what do you backpack in that case?
Um, maybe you pop your mant and swap it in, I guess.
Oh, I figured you have CTP.
Or vice versa.
Or vice versa, right.
Okay.
Probably.
Although, I mean, sometimes you're gonna just swap in your mant to use it to split push and maybe just...
Oh wait, he still has boots.
I'll use them in an hour.
Oh, you're right.
Yeah, he has treads.
Wow.
Usually we see the swift blink way earlier than this.
That's a bit...
It's contextual.
It's very good protection against timber in particular.
Thank you. We'll find ourselves a little snack.
Yeah, it's hard to survive 17 different spells.
Good old invoker. Remember the good old times in Dota 1 when every individual invoked combination was a different spell?
God.
That was something else. Two-thirds of the spells were trash, which means the hero affected fewer spells than it does now.
Ironically.
But there were some fun ones in between. I don't remember all of them.
Talk about a hard hero to play. I don't think I played at that point.
Salon's here, put summon infernals. It's a different time.
Void's ult was global and stunned everyone except himself.
Was it 27 spells? What was it?
Uh, yeah. Wasn't it? How many combinations are there?
Tell me.
Oh no, I'm not gonna do this live. I'm not gonna embarrass myself.
Yeah, well you already have.
By not answering your PMA.
It should be 27.
27. Lincoln's now and ask yourself is WS considering how important is for this
team? Is there a way that he can fit in Lincoln's for himself but obviously we've
seen the axe come out on Doom before. Oh it already is out. Did he have that last
fight? I don't think so. I think he had it but didn't use it. He just targeted Timber.
Oh, okay.
Otherwise, he picked up immediately after.
There's the Hex on our team.
So he ended up getting it instead of Hex. I really agree with his choice.
Obviously, the game has changed drastically since he was considering the Hex, but...
Yeah, you have Hex on Invoker, you have the Hex Doom.
Like, you don't need another Hex on Murana here.
Just do some damage.
Well, from Navi...
Roche on the horizon.
There's a potentially game-winning play if they get the right connection.
Stalkov, I think, does not have 5x.
Here we do
There's the Timbersaw, can't you burst him?
Arrow's not gonna hit, get to the outstretched box, he came here with the Timber Chain as well
He'll focus on the undying instead
Does Timber Chain to safety, now the buyback to the undying
They do not get the kill into the Timbersaw
Looks like Navi's gonna reset
Might have been better off single targeting him again
I guess we'll have Lincoln's, I think he just dies there
Yeah, that's fair
If you get him in time, if he doesn't react fast enough
That's right, there's no delay when you're just jumping in, you're said to have smoked
out from Aurora.
There's the jump in from WS, so much burst damage, although he's getting bursted in turn.
The right side's from the hide, he's not doing absolute work, he's just looking for a Thunder
Target, cannot find a fight along with the Alight, gets back to full HP, Kailor is dead.
They burst out, and that's a text onto Skeeter, he drops to the deck, it's all dead now, other
than the Dark Willow.
What is that? Yeah, he's down to 15% and dying just waddles up. He's like I'm gonna punch this guy to get that was an unfortunate choice
Maybe they could have killed him
He was very low
Maybe maybe he got a sundered an illusion or teammate. I don't know but he was looking though. He was struggling
That was definitely not the way to do that. I'll say that with confidence
No buybacks for two of the four members currently dead
He's going to be a second lane at minimum, and he's going to have to start the buyback.
Mira destroyed, buys back instantly, and WS trying to do as much burst damage as he can,
but he's going to be the first to fall, but WS already had half HP with the BKB, but it's
running out now.
The Infernal Blade is going to keep him at bay, Stoikon, in a lot of trouble.
He's caught off guard, he's nowhere to go now.
He's dead at the buyback.
Poor dead now for Aurora.
Triple kill for days of all heroes.
Okay, it's all over, Shannon.
Absolutely.
have secured themselves the top fourth finish.
In style too. I think this is a very convincing victory.
It's one thing to win 2-0, it's another one to do it like this.
Two completely differently played games from them,
and it looked equally comfortable in both.
Game one was an absolute beat down with the Huskar pick,
and this time they take their time believing the late game,
and believing Dota plus predictions.
That's right, you gotta believe in Gaven.
I checked a moment ago, they were 20k up or 25k up.
Yeah, there was 98 to 2 with 1 lane of racks.
And now it's 100 here.
Yeah.
They get the tier 4s, the ancient, the last thing they have to get through as Timbersight instantly packs them, instantly destroys Skeeter.
He's going to get sundered and brought down as well.
That'll do it.
Gigi is called, Aurora are out.
Navi move on with this top 4 finish.
Very impressive series from them.
Really good stuff and a good sign.
This could definitely be a team that has a shot at with this level of play
Podium at least a possibility maybe another finals appearance
I'm excited to some fun excited by what I've seen from this now v team today because over the course of the tournament
We've seen the highs we've seen the lows
But this is a new evolution of where the wrap guaranteed in that top four could get to the podium
the game. But the only thing
that anybody was going to say
was that the body, Mr Cinder and
says would be immense. I mean,
we saw Aurora's average
placement this season, and
these really important lands
worth a lot of money. It was
significantly better than
Navi's. Their history just
shows that this is a team that.
Last season, they got. Top two
bro. Now he can barely crack the
We've seen so far because there's always something to it
There's always some shenanigans happening. You see like Niku buying back
They're buying this so and like the sigh of relief yesterday that we've seen on the camera
This time around they were like I would say overall like better drafting coming out from them
Especially in that team number one got you brought out of the draft today. Yeah, they really really cool
I cooked today. Yeah, absolutely
I also want to say that I'm glad that this team is becoming successful just because they decided to stick together.
They're young kids, a lot of the times it's very difficult for a young squad like this.
After not having the results that you want to have, you're definitely not satisfied with getting top five,
getting 11th, 12th place at the tournament. This is not where you want to be, you've been practicing the whole year.
they decided to swap things around, like have one player pretty much.
And because they still believe in this roster, they still believe that in their
own ideas and it definitely showing.
Yeah, there, there's a lot to believe in because the individual clutch plays has
always been there from Navi.
They have some of the highest skilled individual players in the world.
You look at the leaderboards and it's filled with Navi players, right?
But sometimes the team play is not there.
Sometimes the drafting is not there.
sometimes in the games they have a throw that in a pub you know you're okay doing
that or against a worse team you're okay but against a team like Aurora you're
gonna suffer but in this series there was none of that it was flawless
throughout all of those elements they had the timbersaw problem the big WS
problem throughout the whole game until that one point where they decided to get
to doom on him and also focus him down with the TV this was the pretty much the
First, the kind of mistake that they made, eventually it would come down to that where he gets doomed, because in every other scenario, he was just way too tanky, way too speedy, and this was pretty much the beginning of an end.
Yeah.
I respect that they picked the Terrorblade though, because we saw what happened in lane.
It resulted in WS having a really amazing performance.
However, in the other heroes that they had on the team, that of the Invoker and the Doom, they thought that they had ways to counter it.
There's the Doom to nullify the healing from Timber, and Niku to deal all the pure magic damage that's needed,
and the existence of the Terror Blade was only for taking towers, securing the late game, and doing all of these things that they needed in the draft.
He kept them in the game with this road of Aetos that he purchased, which was a setup for the arrow, setup for his own spells.
anyone who overextended Niku he was ready to punish that and the playing
through the mid lane getting the tower getting the kill on the Stoikov killing
him again it was pretty clean because they knew that this timbersaw is gonna
become an issue and they're often are also didn't have that good of a time so
Niku's ready to punish Nomad with some answers to his questions well I hope not
Richard but yes it did he is here with me right now I mean firstly congratulations
top four finish how are you and the rest of the team feeling at the moment
It feels so good to not be coming home right now, to sit a bit more in this tournament, to play more funny games.
This game was not funny, but I hope nice games will be funny.
We enjoyed them for sure. I mean, your house guard looked brilliant, your invoker so far undefeated this tournament, I think.
So, yeah, I mean, do people need to start respecting your invoker more?
Yeah, I don't know. Some people think that in market it's that kind of, but I don't think so.
And both games have now first 20 minutes, I'm just skimmed off the map, I don't first.
Do whatever I want, farm whatever I want, kill whatever I want.
And what do you put that down to? Is that draft? Is that your own gameplay? Is that your support's enabling you?
I think mostly draft, and then just what we do, like, while there comes and how we play.
I mean, that first game, that Husker looked absolutely godlike. They didn't seem to have an answer for it.
Why do you think we haven't seen more Husker coming out of this tournament?
Yeah, we also talked to this as our coach, and we also think, like, why people are not picking Husker in this tournament?
There is no Husker players almost. I don't know why. I like Husker.
You do indeed. Yeah, I mean, for good reason as well.
Well, you're not done today, of course. You've got another game coming up. Extreme in the cards for you. What do you think about that team?
I don't know. The team kind of random, like China team. I think Interbank, CQ heroes, because he's the most carry in the team.
He just cares every game. He's about a throne, like, solving game.
is a beast indeed, but I'm sure you've got a lot of your sleeve. Other than yourself,
who do you think played really, really well on your team today?
I don't know, I'll play it good, I would say. Like in the other game, I had a super free game,
but overall everyone played normal, good. They did indeed, all right. Well, there's of course
two other teams left, and one of them took you out, LGD. How do you feel? Do you want to come
against them again and get that win? If you were to make to the Grand Finals, who do you want to
play against? I mean probably if you'd be Yandex because LGD will boost us and there is no way
they can meet in finals with us. So yeah, this is ready for LGD. Ready for LGD. All right, I like
to hear it. Niku, thank you so much for talking to me and good luck at the rest of the tournament.
Yeah, I'd love to see that grinning like a Cheshire cat as he should. And I gotta say it,
definitely put some respect on his Invoker play. I think probably he's had the best
and strikes of anyone at this competition.
Not many players are playing.
It's same goes for Haaskar.
So they have the upper hand definitely in that one,
but happy for the boys because you can definitely tell
that they're vibing it out and coming into the next series
against Extreme Gaming.
It's going to be a massive buff for them
because they also two out here.
And also even when they lose, like I feel like this team just
has very good vibes, no matter what.
I love how he said, yeah, this series, it wasn't that funny.
But for the fans, we're going to get some funny games out there in the next series.
Like this guy cares about the entertainment, Ali.
I respect it.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's why they're one of my favorite teams.
And I'm glad that their tournament life continues for us.
Well, that's it.
Sure day in the morning, crew.
So we're out.
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I'm in with Maldi from Yandex. We're gonna play a little game. Um, how good is your poetry Maldi?
it's a shame. I don't even know
the definition of the word.
Well, we are going to give you
some little riddles, some rhyming
riddles, basically, and they're
going to describe either a Dota
character or a Dota item, and
you're going to try and guess
what it is. You have two and a
half minutes to get as many as
possible, but you can use hints.
You have 10 hints to use throughout
the entire thing. So anytime you
need a hint, just say it and some
letters will appear for helping
you out and then finally you also have one skip to use if you really can't get
through one you can skip and we can get past it all right oh if I don't use any
hints do I have extra points or not uh yeah we'll give you a gold star all right
all right you ready yeah yeah all right let's get started with dota letters
here's your first one I strike foes down with a burst from my tip but no one
seems to build me anymore rip what am I hints all right let's see it D
Is it the item? What am I? Yes it is an item. I don't know.
Do you want another hint? Another hint.
All right. Dagon. That's it. Yes, Dagon. Absolutely. Let's do the next one.
I limp into battle with a great big moan. I can double in size and take your health on a loan.
Who am I? Who am I? Who are you? I have no idea. Him. I'm dying. Absolutely right. Yes, there we go.
We're doing well with the hints. Let's get into the next one.
I'm the biggest guy around with the highest strength gain of throw a rock at your head primal beast exactly right very very good
Let's go. Let's go. Keep it going. I'm a shifty guy. My ulti makes a double
I can win games alone despite looking like a puddle. Who am I?
I don't know hint hint
Morphling yes, exactly. Let's go. Let's get the next one going
You'll know my name if you've read Shakespeare. I dance around fights with my ethereal spear. Who am I?
Hint?
Fuck.
Yes, exactly. There you go. Let's get the next one in.
This item closes that gap
between those you hate used by
fishermen of old to put big fish on your plate.
Is that a hunter?
No. What am I?
What am I? I don't know.
Hint. Harpoon. Yes, exactly.
Exactly nice. Let's go. Before a hint.
You're flying, you're flying. This item
is based off a king that wanted too much,
famous for his greed and his desire
to touch what am i yes exactly right well done good knowledge right before battle take a long
puff suddenly their spells just don't seem so tough what am i it's not black king bar it's hard
of the rush no it's not kind pipe of insight yes that's right that's right let's go let's get the
next one in an annoying spell and aoe inhibit bonking you on the head with a reverberating
rivet. What am I?
Frogstorm?
No.
Yes.
Oh, he did.
You got it.
You got it.
That was impressive.
All right, next one.
When I'm pressed, my user becomes round,
better attack fast before I hit the ground.
What am I?
Hit the ground.
They're shaker.
No.
Hint?
You got this.
Skip.
Skip.
All right, let's go.
Last question.
Quick, quick, quick.
It's one of the most vulnerable items in the game
without its many charges.
Dota wouldn't feel the same.
Magic one to my magic wand.
Exactly.
Good job, dude. Good job. That was impressive.
You seem to get them pretty damn quickly once you got that first letter.
Yeah, what was the last one actually?
You got it. Magic one.
Oh, the one before it?
Yeah, the one before it.
Supernova.
All right, that would never have guessed it.
The spear hit a round thing hitting the ground?
Yeah, it was a tough one.
But that is 10 correct answers, Maldi.
That is definitely the best we've had so far.
Good job. Shake your hand.
How do you feel?
Do you feel inspired to go and write some poetry for your friends, for your team?
Poetry? No.
I suck at that. I hate literature.
Okay, all right, excellent. Well, yeah, reject literature, become a famous donor player.
That's what you should do at home as well. Thank you, Maldi. We'll send it back.
Welcome back. It's the second half of the day. Checking in with you as we have had two eliminations
already. We're going to leave that for a while. We're going to go into the upper bracket finals.
is going to be high. There's
a lot to talk about. My name
is Shiva and I'm joined by
Kezu and Tegov. Tegov upper
bracket coming your way. Pg
of luck here. Season nine. We
know our top four. We do, and
it's a breath of fresh air
because we have a sprinkle of
China sprinkle of Eastern
Europe through a sprinkle of
whatever the hell LGD is
because they're a bit of
everywhere. They are the
world, but no, it is really
cool to see that on the
ultimate day. We do have, you
each other. We did, of course, lose game in Legion and Aurora earlier today. So North America
has lost their team, but snaking, he's holding true to the region with this international LGD.
All the teams that we still have left right there, they're new. It's nice to see. And everyone is
just getting a lot better. Because towards the start, you're like, can this team make it? You
know, LGD were a little bit weird. XG were super good. Navi with like, one day they're like the
best team, the next they're like, oh, this team top eight, and then they're bye bye. But they're
doing it. They're doing it and I think Kezu is also very good to see that both teams this morning
they were able to do it with a 2-0. Yeah I mean just going in and like starting the day you know
nice and fresh and also now they get a little bit of a break you know they get to watch this series
prepare for their opponent take a chill pill and come in clean tonight. Yeah we'll see later on
today which one of the two teams will make it out of this day into the final day but we'll also
I also see first, which team will be in the grand finals?
I won't say a lot of speculation, there's been a high expectation for Yandex to be that team.
We're focusing our attention first on Yandex, one of the two teams here in the upper bracket finals
and the team to beat here at this Valachia.
It works, they dropped two games total, they can't believe Tegav, it has happened.
They're human.
They're human.
Thank you, Kether.
I wasn't understanding, she was referring.
I'm just making a clear. No, the translation was perfect. There you go. No, no, yeah, they are, they can believe they are human. But I feel like it's the volatility of like an outlaning draft with a team playing like their best game, then you beat Yandex.
But even if you have to draft them, you have to literally be at your ultimate best. And teams clearly haven't been able to do that multiple times in a row because guess what, you've not taken series of Yandex yet.
That's how scary they are. The flexibility of heroes going from core to support. Suddenly
you're putting Amar on a week off lane to give a better core elsewhere. Like there,
they are really doing everything to maximize their chance of winning this tournament.
Yeah, maybe extra scary as well because it was yesterday when we saw Jandex in the end
beat Aurora. They did so with the fastest game of the tournament and the third fastest
game of any Wallachia ever.
Not the service. Okay, that means that they won't really quick.
That means fast.
They won't really quick.
I'm glad that we will keep each other updated on the English language, that's good.
Because these guys, if you've listened to any of the panels when Yannick was on, these guys are good.
If you look at their average, they are beating the average fan by 11 minutes, because these guys, they're insanely good laners.
They will usually take that lead and not really drop the ball, but also at least in the losses.
They have shown that if they are the ones that they're having that done to them, where they get stomped in lanes, which has happened,
the same thing happens to them, then they lose in 30 minutes.
So, you know, there's a lot of, I would say, emphasis on the laning stage for this team.
And maybe also we should put some emphasis on a storyline that we've been highlighting
a lot this season.
And we have to do it again, because, you know, Amar, he wanted to face Skeeter.
He did so.
He beat him.
And Amar wanted to face Snake King.
This is his chance, Tigo.
Yeah, I mean, the fact that he played Snake King, put him to the lower bracket, and then
Navi was like, don't worry, Amar, we'll do the deed for you, Chief.
You know, like, he can do it again.
can put his team into the lower
bracket if he's able to overcome
LGD. The main thing is, it is
just so scary and such a respect
to these players that they can
join new teams and we're talking
about them all being top six
instantly, right? Of course, that
is how important these players
have been within the Dota kind of
pro scene for the last, you know,
several years. Yeah, a lot of a
lot of history, of course, on
all ten players on the board because right here in the bottom left corner of your screen the man with the
least amount of experience a little bit of a spotlight of wits
In comparison especially to his counterpart on the other team. What's up?
Yeah
Tell me already talking about how important the lanes are in this game
I thought like of course the drafts there kind of flexing a lot with yandex suddenly you're getting you know
Naga sirens and ta's because other heroes have gone elsewhere
And I thought like at least for wits the focus is on him from day one to now
He was overthinking what he needed to do for this team. We've heard him introduced as well that people were like respecting the system of what
Snake was trying to introduce like we're trying to play a bit more not Falcons
Notable like snaking like it evolution of that and I think at least yesterday
He was like free-flowing once again like his win range is his friend same like he was doing what he wanted to do
But whilst complimenting the objective nature of snaking and I think that that is exactly what you wanted to see
When you go up against Shandex like if we hadn't seen that yesterday
I'd be sitting here going here. This is the easiest series ever for Yandex, but I think Wits has matured very quickly
to the team he's now on and we're seeing glimpses of why we loved him as a carry when he was on playtime.
And they're so focused. Everybody's so focused. Look at that. They are so ready for this.
It is also cool to note that LGD, I mean, they're coming in as a very new team of five players together.
They have not dropped a game in six games. As in they've won six games in a row, which is good for their confidence level
level and it's good for them jelling together. They did take the long route in the group stages,
but I think that is not a bad thing for this team that I think just needs volume of games.
No, for sure. You would love to play, I think, as many games as possible, as long as you need it.
You know, now they go on the playoffs and like you said, they haven't dropped the game. I think
they figured out a lot of things and also like snaking, we heard it in, you know, the little
speech before the game. It's like, guys, play it like it's a pub, try to like alleviate all the
pressure, play on what we want, our timings, and also like swapping the heroes around where
He took the bounty hunter the only core place at dark willow which also for this series are two heroes that very likely will be picked or banned
Willow it had isn't like every single game this guy on the screen is the best willow of the tournament and his bounty hunter right up there in
Contention as well
He used to said in the interviews like oh we kind of forgot about the bounty hunter like we respect this a bit more
You know we kind of let it slip for like one game and straight back on the menu
So yeah, that is a hero to think about yeah
I have a peek at her about it and we saw I'll do the at the start of the tournament struggle a little bit with
Bounty Hunter, but yes, in swapping the Bounty to snaking and having Field of
Core play a more ranged position four. That looked so beautiful yesterday. We'll
see if nobody's gonna get their hands on that. Too bad for us anyway. I think the
players are probably pretty happy with that one. We are in the draft. LGD is a
radiant. Yandex is dire and that Bounty Hunter together with the lone druid
already banned by LGD. First pick is going to Yandex in this one and they've
already got their three bands on board. Yeah, I mean the interesting thing will be
If us for it is that into the pool you're going to assume it's banned out
But if it is then yandex they've shown it in the fall position
Yeah, they of course can play it mid like there's that kind of joy of flexibility around it
And not many teams in the world will be able to flex it because one you need your four player to want to play it
Which is kind of rare nowadays and then two you want your off lane is to play ranged heroes
Guess what? I'm off. He plays the razors the viper's like he's happy to to take some mealy blood for and go
Let's go win the lane and like I said, there really are not that many there's a fight for first-place man
Alrighty, I love that it kind of frees up the band later on the bands later on in the draft
But that's push us for into the pool. It does kind of offer that in yeah
Like there's other heroes, you know the earth for you mentioned because yeah, and they say up they've shown it
Amar is also the type of player
I think you know timber will still be on his mind maybe not first pick maybe later because I think in his mind
That's one like okay, you know Skeeter he got me he closed the face with Ursa
But not everyone wants to like close the first phase with an Ursa
It's like also a very unique thing
You know, that's also maybe willow like other here. So they're like, oh now they left other heroes open
You'll there's bigger choices because they'll make it simple. They go for a necro
So many heroes available on the first pick that you had kind of had to like, okay
Right right moment here. Take a deep breath. Let's think about it
The aspirates the timbers the necrofossil is all of them. Yeah, I mean you got the band Street up
And you always need to consider what the responses
I think Yandex at least they try to go for the hero. That's the most generic of all of them
Mm-hmm because like if you pick an Earthshrawer and Ember there's a slasher
They're always like a big response, but what's Shadowfiend?
Is that not very surprising?
Also, it's yikes of that win rate. I don't think it's surprising
Just because when you pick necrophos like this for Yandex by the end of the second phase
You want to decide where it's going and for LGD
It's like you don't have control of that anymore. We're picking our shadow fiend
We'll probably open the next phase with a clock a task a way to just like a bane
Like we'll dumpster this lane so if you want to put this nekron off lane a ma will not have a good time
So just stops the undead selecting
Yeah, I think also just yeah the heroes win rate is not that good
But I think it's been a couple days where the hero has not been picked
Like I think there's also a chance that a lot of the teams who played it
They're not really here anymore and you've had a bit of time to calibrate and I think it's just overall good
But I think you want to shut down Amar or at best, give him an even lane.
You know, don't let him dominate, so SF I think works.
The Bane that you mentioned already, I would kind of like to see that.
Other heroes that are left in the pool that generally when you see snaking play are not
going to be allowed to be in, but Enchantress is also here that's in the pool, and he is
the best entry in the world.
Yeah, you never really know what kind of sprints have been going on behind the scenes, what
kind of things have been figured out for either team that they want to pull out in a game
like this and this is the position of course especially game one of a best of three where
elimination is not on the line. LGD all their players are experienced enough to know that
if they play this well they'll have the same matchup again tomorrow regardless of what happens.
This is where you want to try to make sure you experiment maybe a little bit to get to know
what Yandex does in certain situations. I mean is the treat of an upper bracket is
do you show so much that even if you do beat Yandex here they're like ah they won
because of these two things and now you get to the finals like do you have enough
of a playbook to beat Yandex again you know it is so scary when a team like
Yandex is in this form. I do like it at least that they take out the I think the
Earth Spirit like when you think of Sumail right now he's really I think
also evolved into like another stage of player I think right now again he's
shining on especially a lot of the spirits but also like an invoker it's
It's not something that he shies away from, but his Earthward so far has looked incredibly
good.
So they will take out the Slark, go for the Hoodwing.
Hoodwing pick, of course, quite normal, but I'm also trying to think, now okay, I think
LGD did this yesterday, they banned the Slark in the second phase, and then I think in two
separate games they had one Pangolier pick on 16-17, and one Voidsford for Sommel, which
I would say Voidsford has looked the best in his hands in this tournament.
Yeah, it's setting such a high tempo, feels very fluid, very good.
probably also why they're so comfortable just letting that Ember in. They feel like they have an answer regardless.
For sure. I mean,
let's say Yandex do take Ember. Like, you know the mid-lane matchup will go 50-50.
Your Shadowfiend matchup should be beating up the Necrophos and you have last pick in the draft to hard counter in theory
whatever Watson picks. So I think LG is gonna be very happy that the big
I think LGD has respected that immensely with how they set up this draft so far.
And Yandex going down the path of just more healing, sustainability and counterplay.
They're kind of off-rope the necrophos and the fights.
Winter Wyvern will cover that.
Damage is a bit lackluster of course, but two picks in.
That's allowed.
Yeah.
When they play long fights, which these heroes also enable each other to do so, right?
When you play Nekro at some point, maybe when you have a BKB, you can get on by physical damage.
If there's a nullify hero, you can get on by physical.
So now, the Winter Wyvern covers that quite well.
I think also picking the Ember here, like you making use of the enemy's, you know, Slark ban on the second phase.
I would say that makes quite a lot of sense.
So Males, not really the guy that is, you know, going to bust out the Huskar into the Ember.
At least I will be heavily surprised.
But this is like, I think when people look at this, like, why did LGD ban the Slark?
You are giving the free ember, but say if you don't ban the Slark,
then Yanak wouldn't have picked ember in this position.
They'd have picked another support.
LGD, we forced to then show him as a hero, you get Slarked on 18.
So as much as it's very easy in hindsight to be like, oh, what a silly ban.
This is obvious.
It's like, you do need to think about like the progression of the draft
and protecting someone as we've already said, no.
Yeah, and I can only imagine that they already have a plan
on what they're doing against it.
And this voice group has just looked so good in his hands.
It's the vessel, the Yashakaya, it's like you're always poking to the back client,
you're setting up so much vision, you're putting supports to half HP or killing them by yourself.
When you have Hoodmink on your team, you have this like long range artillery that
the support doesn't even need to be out of position to assist with the kill.
Yeah, it just goes a long way, it really helps a lot.
Five seconds remaining.
You know, I wonder what they're playing off with.
I think some of the fights we mentioned already for snaking would be quite good because
You have no reason here to pick your off laner. You just give your last pick to Davai. It's very simple
You could look for I think Bane makes a lot of sense like in Feebo is good in this game
It's good laner great with SF
If you can look at the edge that I think I was mentioning before allows you to play through mid pure damage with the impetus as well
I guess some of these heroes is nice
It's one of the best picks that you want to go for with the Shadow Fiend. It's it is the pairing to your skill
Yeah, it's just so good. Yeah, and the way that Yandex will play is like ember or necrifice in fights
still initiate through having such aggressive positioning when sometimes you're just disjointed
for your team. And that 2-3 second of disjoint is enough for Bane to get a big fiend's grip,
to set up for a shadow fiend, to get that execution of a void or a hoodwink. So you
just need to be mindful with the Ember and Necro that you can't go too cocky when naturally
your heroes want to be that type of players now. So what do you want to pick in this position
for Yandex. Is it the off laner since you know what kind of safe lane you're laning against?
I'm not sure because I feel like from what we've seen from them now, I think Amar is the one that's
going to be the Necro. Yeah, that he's just saying, just let me play this anyway, like who cares if
you see your carry matchup. So you pick Sexxus here? No, you pick Kez. Even though he doesn't know
his off lane yet. I think that's fine though, because normally when teams get to this position,
The last pick, you know, 4 is kind of fine and you need to think about the eventual scaling.
I think Watson is one of those carries that if he sees enemy carry he will have to pick his heroes,
but he knows he will outscale and yeah, cares into these heroes.
Other than fiend's grip, he's going to have to run around and do kind of whatever he wants.
He's going to be very annoying, thorn in Shadow fiend's side.
They do kind of lack that simple stun to play on though,
though, but they have the damage on Nandex, it's just tying it together when LGD has so much kiting
throughout their heroes at the moment. Yeah, I would assume that if you're Saksa you might be
looking at some maybe Rubik, Windranger, I don't know what else is like in his wheelhouse that he
really loves, like Bane as a 5 is somewhat annoying or like this entire duel lane I would say is quite
annoying of SF Bane, because also Necro, he doesn't really help you in this matchup, so I think it's
important that you can stay in the back when they like commit on the Necro that maybe you can do
something to offset that so I think the SD band also is pretty nice. There's so many interesting
options at least so for Saxa you can bring the damage through like a techies where you have a
bit more disarm in the lane you have that kind of just mines to buy time for your heroes to get
items but then the rubric like you mentioned with the list and all this stuff it's because
Saxa is not in a difficult spot to find his hero just depends on what type of game they want to play
And then last pick for LGD, Timber and Largo gone, so Timber naturally buys Lotus for Dispel
which is very good against Yandex, Largo has Dispel for lane against the Cairns, I'd like
to think Axe is probably the main one that I can think of for Divy or the Centaur?
I think Axe is decent, I can also still just feed and play Darkseer, I think sure you don't
I think it's still quite good for the game.
You buy good items, you're going to get radiance from Amar anyway.
There's no other real way to play this here on the off lane.
I think also it just allows you to play Void Spirit.
I mean Void Spirit will be your melee partner just once the lanes are over, so it's fine.
It is kind of cool to think of two last picks for Saxon and Divide.
At least I can think for both players, like three plus heroes, that can work for the game.
Of course they'll probably be one that is optimal, but it's quite refreshing.
refreshing there's not it they haven't been drafted too much into a corner
exactly no no no the rubik will be the final one that gets removed from the
saxes hero pool and 30 seconds in a bonus time on top of the extra 15 seconds
they still have now to think about what he wants to play and yeah his pockets
are deep it's definitely nice if he has a fall I think follow-up damage to ember
and a cheap stun to bane would be quite nice like without putting yourself out
position okay that it was like techie techie techie techie not techies that's how that sentence
kind of works yeah like windranger would be on the top of my list um obviously also when you get
this deep in the tournament and you have a player of this caliber and confidence you know if they
see or vibe or something you know they can bust it out is it time for the sax that makes it sense
or is that not i think the lane is so bad because bane is one of the best supports that's stopping
wait-filling and then you have nothing. No, that Windranger is going down too.
He is one of the best post-war Windrangers. Like I think there's obviously like a lot of people,
like it's not, it's easy to look okay on it, but I think it's actually difficult to look like a
master on this hero. Like him and Save are the ones to me that usually stand out. Excuse me,
Save is a mid laner. Yeah, yeah, yeah, true. He never played post-war. It also helps that Windranger
is a fall position that can survive the boys for it jump and that's something that you always need to consider like dark will
Another reason why she's so good is she can survive the spirit initiation and now that's where it's our position
So it kind of helps like winter why haven't both supports actually on the undeads will have a way to just buy time if she will ever
Misinitiate some ways to step but of course the buy he knows needs to think about his hero the acts the doctor
The center there's so so many options to him to to consider
Which one is on top of our list for him? Is it the Axe?
I'm leaning Axe personally just for the explosive jump on a Kezra and Ember, and that initiation allows Bane to go in.
I think Voidspirit naturally plays so aggressive that you don't need to think of a front-lining hero from the off-lane,
because they're going to be jumping in and out so quickly on all of the LGD heroes.
I'm also trying to see if there's even one hero that's outside of the box that we have not yet seen.
yet seen. I think the fight is also the title side, I could do that, but I think both teams
just kind of going for, I think their comfort and just like understanding and also locking
in on like the one way to play that they like. And I think also Darkseer's win rate, it's
been going up. It wasn't like 17 or maybe 20%. I think now they're getting to like the later
stages and it's like, okay, he is getting later picked in the draft. There is purpose
for the hero. It's picked nicely in terms of laning and how it can be played in the
mid game. So I just think it checks out for them.
Yeah, it's it's what the way that the index fights when you're against skirmishing lineups
That's it eventually goes you cannot fight me anymore because you're using one cheap star
No, some type of like overwhelming positioning to try and win a fight and the darks is like three-man wall four-man wall
You take some sheavers and then now there's some illusion running around like he does really good at kind of thwarting this style of play
I think the main kind of discussion
I think between these lineups is how well will what's playing the shadow fiend with snaking into a Mars necrophos?
because on paper you're meant to win this lane, but if you don't, it can create complications down the line.
For me, it's like a type of game where... and it's how it should be, I think, to say it into the tournament.
There's a lot riding more on the gameplay, in my mind, as opposed to the gameplay, as opposed to the draft.
I think both teams have a lot of things to play for. I would maybe give a slight edge to Yannick,
because I think the way LGD played, they need to poke and kind of get something from it.
I think if you have some Glimmer Cape or the Wyvern Necroprotect each other nicely, maybe you're not getting much from that.
But overall, I think both drafts look nice. There's a lot to be played for we've seen in yandex's games
That there is always a little bit of a tipping point where it goes a little bit bad for one team
And then it goes like horrible and the game is basically over
Is there gonna be a typical point like that or do we feel like both teams because both teams have had this problem?
Both teams have a way out if it goes south
I could see yandex's drafts around the 15 minute mark just overwhelm
because you have the tankiness of Nekra Force, you have a mage slayer on a kenshield also going to be tanky, deso, like ripping through your opponent.
So that's the big window where Yandex can maybe just auto win the game.
Alright, let's see what's happening. Game 1 of this best of three, upper bracket finals coming your way.
But first, we're heading over to Nomad, who's talking to coach yourself?
Thank you very much, yeah. So firstly, I mean, it looks like a good draft. Is this kind of draft you can excel into the game with?
with yeah I mean we got a lot of comfortable heroes and this and my ship
so should be good I reckon so we haven't seen too much coming out from the
shadow theme people are not picking this hero after the nerf why do you think
they've gone for it I mean it's in there but I guess it's answer to the echo it's
also it's very comfortable hero he actually was the one who was playing it
first after like it first nerves so yeah I think you just read this hero still
definitely do you fear it? Not really. Nice I like that confidence all right
what about your own draft you know again this is typical for you guys it's
feeling like very fast very aggressive are we gonna see another one of these
25 25-minute shutouts? I will not jinx it so we'll see I mean like I'm very good at
play like 20 minutes game 40 minutes game 60 minutes game it doesn't matter yeah
all right well we talked about the SF but is there anything else on LGD's
draft which you're afraid of them being able to get off you know what what's
that draft do really really well?
I think early game is like 50-50 so it's all about skill and how lines go and yes I
can get like first get some advantage early and we also so we will see how it plays out.
Alright XL good luck in game number one we're gonna throw it over to OD Pixel and Fogged
for this one.
Thank you very much sir.
Yes it's time to get to the action between LGD and Yandex and I'm looking forward to
the other one plays out. Yandex obviously looking back to their scary form in game three yesterday,
getting some pretty brutal stomps in their favor. I would say if LGD is ready to rise
to the challenge today, what do you make of this? I mean, LGD yesterday, they really
powered up. We're seeing them starting to get their things together with starting to
pop off. Sumail's been popping off every game, but last, you know, yesterday, you could
see the team synergy fully coming in. Let's see how that's going to go versus Yandex
This is going to be probably the biggest test to see the mid matchup to because Sumel has been kind of stomping a lot of players
Chira very comfortable player should be good against the matchup there for Sumel with the hero to right Ember versus voids
There's a pretty damn good matchup for the Embers spirit
The biggest eyes for me is really going to be on which this game the shadow fiend as we are mentioning in the interview to
Heroes got a nerf a lot of people are staying away from it for good reason
I think that's a fair play.
Yeah, we sort of saw yesterday Witt's have a great time on this fan and on the win
ranger and as we pointed towards yesterday these heroes that kind of have a stun, you
know, heroes that kind of do things on their own SF, especially the current SF, it seems
much more volatile.
Yes.
If you have a bad start on this hero in the safe lane you just feel incredibly underpowered
the entire game.
You always have been a squishy hero, right?
That's always been the case.
is the glass cannon used to just be so overwhelming that you wouldn't be able to kill him before
he killed you. Now, if you look at all these numbers, it is pretty drastic with the changes.
So when you look at this one, it doesn't look like it, but then when you look over his innate,
he lost an insane amount of damage.
And I tell you what, it's if you look at what he's up against, it's a strong lane
versus him.
I mean, just across the ballpark, does he cares for the parry, an ember, remnant thing
away, a necro with a ghost shroud, a wyvern with a cold embrace, a whimrunner with a whimrunner.
A lot of things that are going to make it very difficult for the SF to get the job done through multiple stages of this game,
especially if you get behind. I feel like Witt's, he's got to somehow dominate from the beginning.
They've got to get some snowball going, LGD. Otherwise they're going to really risk the sort of the situation where the SF is,
you know, it's going to be feeling like the nerfed SF that we've seen a few times this tournament.
That's the position I'm feeling with as well. And with the way that they set up the lanes right,
They last pick socks and another ranged hero. So it's just a spam lane. They're just gonna be power shotting keeping him low HP all the time
So it's dangerous for which to really walk up try to set up for these triple raises
Which in the past right you look at the bay in SF lane. It was always gonna be these triple raises
You're always gonna get this set up. So see how the lane does go because yeah playing the hero from behind does feel dangerous
yeah pressure definitely on for for wits and
Some of the series he has crumbled a bit. She said yesterday
really locked in and gave us the top two carry performance that we know he is
capable of but today definitely quite a different challenge against Yandex.
Careful how aggressive I've seen this too many times teams try to dive this
wyvern the heels come out the cold embraces with the fairy fires they end
up trading kills in a better fashion there for Watson so LGD will respect
that they're not you gonna go for the kill I think you just played it's playing
playing a bit chill till you do get a bit more levels coming out sure double
Iancho is very strong if you do see an opportunity for it but have to really be quite decisive
of how you make that hit.
I'm talking about this top lane, the last pick for LGD, going with this Darkseer, hasn't
had great results all around, yesterday they also did do the last pick Darkseer, you really
liked it yesterday, did you feel the same here or a little bit of a different scenario
for the Divide Darkseer in this matchup?
It feels very different to me, even though you see your counter matchup, you don't have
this melee here that thrives with you, the bounty hunter we saw snaking decimate, pretty
the entirety of the game stealing creeps and all that too so I think this is a
pretty different one this is more of like a team aspect thing rather than
we're gonna completely own in a way and dominate the lane because he doesn't
also counter the kids that hard it's actually a little bit of both ways so
we'll see how that ends up going for him because last night yeah yesterday I
loved the dogs you pick this one it's just a 50-50 for me it's it's more just
like for the team game and they have great ways to answer that dark suit to
Chains, Shackles, good ways of control, mid lane cheer up, we are seeing him at the edge of the moment here, but only a slight one to the left, it's pretty close.
So all in all, lane's looking pretty even, except for the bottom one, this is the one I just keep looking at, Wix.
Seeing the damage difference, in last patch he would have plus 40, now he only has plus 24 damage, so that's the difference really makes in terms of early laning aspects.
Where's she feeling in there and some of the missus that yeah, they did get you know
Maybe kind of going for stuff that you would have got before but not anymore
Yeah, he's I mean he's more one-on-one that's played at the most it's one of his most comfortable heroes
But you absolutely do feel that minus damage in the early aspects of things here. So Mar
I just even bonus like that. You know getting getting the support women
You know it's that that wouldn't have been happening before but it does now every little thing matter
He's buying a raindrop. So a good amount of money that he's spending on consumables here
But he wants to just keep himself safe
doesn't want to get ganked down here from all this new cameras.
Well this might be a little bit sneaky here, Maladin.
They catch him right away, instant scan.
Okay, he won't be falling for this one, which...
Nah, Snae's not going to let that happen.
He even places an Ops ward in the lane just to be prepared for it right afterwards.
Soxa also places a similar kind of concept from both sides.
LGD's going to bring the third here already in preparation of this.
Now that you've got the third here yourself,
Are you just playing full defense? Would you want to try and bait Yandex into doing something?
Or you'd rather not get involved in an altercation at the moment?
Depends on opportunity, really. It's tri-lane times, okay?
Well, these are old days. It's just all up to the spellcasting when you get into these tri-lanes.
Going for a Ma are not easy. He's got the point held for the ghost, right? He's got raindrop.
I think they probably do have to play it more passive, actually.
I think going for a kill would be quite dangerous.
Anyway, gonna move toward the mid, look to set up for the rune.
Shira is already 6 though.
So now, we'll go for pressure.
Doesn't have quite enough with the burst at the moment as the void spirit.
Shira Jr. perfectly fine, we'll get the rune.
Bottom lane.
Now, go for the dive in onto Witz.
He's gonna have Snake and come over to try and assist, but he is dead.
We'll get him returned.
But first blood going the way of Yandex.
And they should be able to clean up a second.
and snaking is to fall to Amasa.
The second they see them leave for the Rune,
they're like, go for it and dive in with the Catapult as well too.
So they're going to get a lot of damage onto this tower here as well too.
And Shadowfiend, the hero that we were saying,
got to watch out for this early game for, he is already quite a bit behind
in comparison to Counter Fards.
What depth means 1100 behind Watson?
I mean, that's sort of the comparison you've got to look at right now.
Everything going as Watson would dream for in his safe lane
and Witt's on the other side struggling as the SF in his lane.
And they're looking for the steal and very likely they got it because Ember is also connecting.
Oh, you can't push them off this, especially not if both calls come in.
Yep, Snae might try to walk in and go for the sleep play but might end up not making it in time actually.
So both Wisdoms, we've seen the Andex do this before.
Devai is getting a lot out of top. He is level seven, top two net worth for him.
But the Shadow Fiend is the win condition and Witt's, he's going to need some help.
especially with how good of again I just feel like every time I see Kez picked in this tournament
I'm like wow it's such a good mage slayer game. Look at it, it's versus Darkseer, Voidspair
and even Shadow Keenan earlier. It's a fantastic one. And there's just some of these heroes
that you know mage slayer just fits so perfectly as an item. You see over a win rev Kez has
been pretty mixed. I would imagine though a lot of those wins probably being fueled by
Watson's performances on the hero. He's been pretty unstoppable on it. Because what's the SF actually? Can we bring up the SF win rate in comparison?
It can't be great right, the SF win rate. I don't think so. So indeed, Watson's cares. He's done it perfectly.
And again, it's a couple of wins. Wits has two of the losses, I believe, for the count.
Really? Yeah, that's an unfortunate comparison, especially in a series there when the carry
cage is obviously quite contested. It may put them off themselves from picking it to
block it from Yandex if that's not one of their strongest carries.
The fact that Assef at this point has been pushed a bit off of the laner. He's level
6 so he does jungle super fast, but Amar has been able to get his boots of travel already
finished up at this point. It's rare that, I mean, not in this patch, but in the last
Patrick, you would never see SF get pushed out of his lane like that, so we're already
seeing some examples.
Mid though, we're seeing Ember, Chira, a little bit behind actually, compared to Sumail here
in terms of farm.
But yeah, the Kaz, it really is going to be the biggest answer.
For quite a lot of the things, just all that magic damage is going to be reduced, some
limited control as well you could say, coming out from the side of LGD to trip him up.
Sure, you've got Gramp and Hoodwink, but some of these others.
Not gonna be as easy as Connect.
Divide.
Going for the play.
What's this gonna be here to try and help Malady out?
A lot of Ion Shell damage.
Well, what's this gonna be here to get the raptors to dance off though?
Theo should take out.
In fact, Sax is gonna make sure that the job's an easy one.
The power shot.
Never mind, turn out with the side drop down onto Divide.
He'll take that all day.
I mean, this is something that has been happening a lot as you were saying earlier against the Wyvern.
You really push for this Wyvern kill, ends up typically costing you both of your lives as the offlane duo if you do go aggressive to kill a Wyvern.
And that's pre-Mage Slayer. If Watson has Mage Slayer there, there's potential that, I mean, that they might not kill Wyvern.
No, you're right. You would have lived because the Heal of the Cold embrace would have easily outdone the reduced magic damage.
It would have been much closer.
So, yeah, it's not going to get any easier to even find that trade.
This is a clever move, I like this. They placed this ward earlier when they made the move toward mid lane with snaking and DO.
So getting Wich's at least some extra farm to enable him.
There we go. Watson, good signs for him.
Already smashing his record. I imagine this is the one he had set before on the timing. They won't get the catch on Sax, sir.
Hold the Requiem as well too for the potential next play.
SF. Now with level 6, does get that extra damage.
That's the way that you know the new innate works always just want to point this one out
So it does go from plus 20 to plus 36 so it does have this extra damage now
So it does have a bit of a power spike for these next few moments
Chira
No earn charge for him, but looks like he's trying to play around bottom Reaper's not up just yet
snaking is not six
Which is in a sneaky spot here?
Snaking
He's looking okay, he's gonna get some back up
So we'll be all right some now coming over the counter play but not quite a lot of the remnant onto him off
I'm off at two speedy with the boost travel. The spam is starting to hurt these power shots are adding up
I'll be a little careful how much further they do want to chase cheer up will reset
Devise getting a lot even though he did die up top. He still is farming very hard. He's level 10 with the dominator finished
He's gonna switch the build to a little as you do see here. He's gonna go for grief
So that tells me he's fighting early maybe because which is struggling. He's like guys
I might be a baby. I do need to get involved a little earlier to try to enable my SF to get that early advantage
That we do want in the game because usually just the Shiva's build obviously versus chains griefs are great
Off the mark with the remnant there again
Wouldn't get the kill anyway
I bought him bringing the numbers back in get some pressure on to this tier one
In terms of farm they are keeping up on the side of LGD
It's just the Watson here the difference really between him and the SF not just in gold in levels
He's three levels for two and a half levels ahead on the cast compared to the SF to
And he's ready to see if he finds a match down in Watson. He knows how strong he is here with the level 10
Everybody shows they'll likely be dead. Snaking's staying hidden for now.
Crazy how high level he is. Chir is actually expecting snaking. He's gonna cut him off.
He's just had sort of solo lane up top, right? What?
Pretty much completely left alone, so he's now a level 11 and a half compared to the 8.
The SF always needs help at this point in the game after struggling in the early.
But the Vi keeping up with those levels.
The nice benefit of the Darkseer this game, Red, he will always have the Necro, so he'll
have a Radiance target to share the Kaz illusion, maybe not the greatest comparison to some
of these others, but they do have good Wombo combo.
SF plus Darkseer in the past, if you can line it up, it's very good.
Even if you are behind, you do have that good teamfight that comes together.
It's just, you have to Kaz.
It really is that Kaz, and how much Chira can do to disrupt the backline.
Perhaps just some lack of front line maybe for the side of LGD.
Sumail at the moment is able to act as that front liner, has good timing on his vessel.
But does have to be careful, because there's a lot of burst damage that comes out from the
side of Yandex early on here.
Assume the timing of a mark is getting very close to the range here, Brailik is done.
and they go for Soxa down here, snaking trying to find the angle, who does see him though.
It's gonna be a bit of a chase if they do want to try and find him.
It's gonna be a very long chase if they want to go for this.
I don't know if they're getting this, there's some males coming over so sure with a plus one, but it's taking quite a lot of effort.
He can, might be able to get closer, like out of range the TP, it's gonna be close if he's slow snaking.
They have to TP the bayonet over.
He's TPing over, he wants this kill snaking.
This is a lot of space.
I mean, if they can give it a whiz, it's a nice little boost for him.
Sax are trying his best with the jukes to avoid raises, but they will get him.
So, they get some money here for the carry.
In the meanwhile, they're trying to look for Malady.
Back him onto the three of them, but no immediate follow-up.
TP's coming in from the neck, Rob.
They've just cut the trees and stuff, the pushback.
And Chiricini is in with the chains onto Theo.
All the time spent chasing the win ranger will give time for them to die for.
Sumail at least is able to get his shrine but they do end up hemorrhaging and kill top unable to get the trade
So that happens when you stand that much time chasing somebody right? It's what's gonna happen on the other sides
And that's will punish
Chira is he's definitely falling behind in terms of net worth fell so we did see that vessel did come out at a pretty good
Time from Sumail Chira's is a big fillet here
But the fact that he has his net go farming so much right that's the difference to his Amar is soaking it a lot more look at this
They're actually going to try and get Wix involved aggressively, stepping into the triangle.
It's just going to be Sox again.
Alright.
Kills a kill though.
Yep, get him what they can, set up here for Wix to pick up.
Oh, and this is cool.
So, I guess for Wix, he's just going to go to Yashitayabild, that we used to see on the SS also.
So looking for it earlier, timing for himself mid.
Theo will go down to male.
to mail. Looks like he should be safe, he has backup too.
He's got snaking and wits around in the mid.
Good rotation, it's a nice early game here from LGD.
Getting wits involved, getting him to a nice comfortable spot.
I saved up a lot of money though, Wits.
Is there some sort of bigger aim you could also be considering?
Maybe he is considering if it is, it's going to be a man-for-game,
or he needs a dispell, unsure.
Set up here.
The damn chain started.
Nicely done.
The curse out though, there's been quite a bit of damage here on Sumow, they used to wreck Wim to push back Watson from following up, turn up to Wanzip and he's having to get the parry off the wall, drop down and nothing to drag them back through it.
Sumow getting caught low, the Echo Sush is gonna hurt, Sumow will jump away but the tic damage takes him out.
They're going to be able to stop him.
You can see the intention there from LGD.
They're trying to do something cool, bringing it together for these early aggressive moves,
but it doesn't work out.
Losing both some out.
Alnwitz there, they get the tower, but it's just a little too messy.
You can...
I can see what they're going for, because they bought the Greaves on the darks here, right?
They're like, guys, we have a huge power spike right now to play around.
SF's still getting some good timings.
So immediately it's just a bit too lackluster with a wide reverse. It's pretty much a perfect connection from Malady to halt all the aggression
Absolutely, at that point onwards it gets kind of messy
It's a good clean kill at the start completely controlling Chira junior on his atmosphere taking out, but at this point
It's concerning right you used to recommend at the side haven't caught too much
You're trying to push on forwards. You don't have any kind of straight combo after the wall
It is just the wall on its own
And you did mention right which did have two thousand five hundred saved up to start a bit that he had didn't have on his year
Point and he turning up and you can see on the money there
Yeah, nearly three cake old. Yeah, that was unspent on the carry for that me. Well, yeah
Right the radiance. I believe just arrived for the net grow
They've gotten bad all their timings pretty much synergizing together perfectly there and Watson
I think you just picked up the best so they did get two stacks
He's got charges up, the timings continue to look perfect here for Watson on the Kez.
And for Wits he does end up doing what I was thinking that he was going down the route of,
is do I need a disbell, he feels like Kez.
Yeah, I think it's tough to get away with that one, when you're planning against the Searing Chains.
And even just to disjoint a Shackle Shot, he does have some other plays that he can do with this Vance as well.
And even just against the docks right at the Casarocatana, if you're starting to get gone on by the Kez,
It can make the difference, so it feels necessary. He's got it.
It's going to be pretty nice to stand the build from the onwards.
By the way, it's a bit of a hurricane fight queued up next. Four wits.
Annoying little vacuum.
We'll ensure the Sumo does get a shield drawn down the bottom.
It does have the shard finished up enough to increase the farm.
But yeah, that was their first fight.
The LGDs are like, alright guys, we built the briefs instead of shields and all that.
It ends up not going their way, so that definitely hurts perhaps their idea of the way the game is going to go.
Because not for Yandex, they're probably in full comfort flow to farm Amar 404.
It's a network lane that got quote-unquote counterpicked, and he has this much farm.
Yeah.
Bottom?
Well, I guess Sox is the sacrifice.
No! One of the razors was off the mud, but they...
They don't get him because they have to use the grip.
Oh, wow. And now Chira might just chase forward too, snaking.
He's able to distance himself.
But that Sox that the space he's making...
Pretty crazy.
Even Watson has made the move down here, seeing if he catches anyone farming this bottom row of the jungle.
The Kes versus the SF. The Kes gets on top of you.
I just destroyed the SF every fight, yeah.
You need your supporting cast on which much more than Watson does.
These timings are going to come so fast through the exits already soon on the horizon.
Okay, Sumail, looking for an easier way to perhaps get some of this setup and save, is
going down the yules that we've seen some players do.
I don't think I've seen Sumail do this one though, so this does feel like a bit of an
adaptation to what's been going on in the game.
I think most of the games I saw him, he was just dominating, so he went like Yashakaya
and just snowballed, but that's when that's gonna take more of a defensive route.
Andix.
They're feeling strong with their timings. I believe that is soon the Agonians from Watson, but they're going without it.
Simele, that hurts.
Set-ups there. The electronic try to help out, but there's no way to battle Simele out of this one and to fight.
He's gone on top of there. They just jump on up on the high ground and kill him.
There's been too many games. Andix is able to do this. It's like 15 minutes hits, and the game just falls apart for the other team completely.
They're so good at applying pressure. The only way that they go for that type of save play is if snaking's there.
If you can do the sleep save to disengage something. But the fact that snaking's not there, it's an easy pick off there.
They're very good at using this Wyvern. The curse to set up allows every little other disabled to go out.
And it's just... unfortunately, Felchity, you're really building up to be enough for one of those games where, if you're the SF, you'd hate to be in this sort of spot right now.
right. It's like, how do you turn up and turn these plays around? It's going to be so hard to get much done in the team fights.
You're on the SF carry, you're behind. There's no ball. It's the worst position to be in as an SF as a carry. It feels rough.
Like they recovered him, right? They did some forms of recovery, but that's not the point you want to really be as an SF.
You want to be dominating, especially if you counterpicked versus a net ground.
It's just why you know one of the reasons why I think you know quite a few of us fit
It's just a bit of a risk of fake now as a carry. Yeah, they did get hurt a lot
Just every six levels rather than every single level right not getting that big bonus damage
It really does hurt his potential because he's always just been glass cannon
And now they're already I mean looking at things right the physical damage when you start to look at it from LGD
It's pretty lackluster. It's just wits and they've already got like glimmers and things to protect for us
I'm smiling
Good setup there in the mid
Enough damage. It's not a ship. They got him
We'll be able to continue to keep cheer at junior behind you know
He's he's suffering is the lowest of the network for the team
But it just sort of that the comparison right it doesn't seem to matter for yandex as a whole
It's the only is having a bit of a rough game this time
It just doesn't matter for everything else that's going on smell. They might be able to contest and steal this
So what's it okay, we're gonna take it off him by the yours to smell the Russian device committed
He's gonna see if they can try and finish your hip for LGD some now
They get the steel and how some of jump begin aggressively so will immediately lose the ages
He's got the means to get out here on his second life, but the second late comes out.
Silas there from Watson, Watson doesn't have enough mana to chase on forward.
So, Sumail will get away, all things said and done, but for being behind the team,
they stuck the Rocheco in the way of Yandex, and they take the Aegis away from them.
They got the kill, right? They got the last hit as well, too, so...
A little bit of a slowdown.
Yeah, you'll take that.
Cheer, Junior, right? Him dying in the mid allows this type of thing to happen,
where they can enter.
Nice play from Divide, just he's a guy, just commit for it.
He just ran right into all of it there and divide really changing with the build and all this is the dark sea of old days
Greaves pipe. They're just looking to fix because their early game
Maybe didn't go as well as they wanted it to right
They're trying to have this type of way to recover into the mid game to enable the shadow theme
But yeah, it is gonna be a recovery still for quite some time a 4k lead
Because well pipe in general right it's just not my nonsense
Like are we seeing many purchase at this tournament? Nope. It's the it's a four position
will buy it in some sense. Yes, but that's it. It's simply a TI bounty. Jump forward,
he has Glimmer, but he's pretty alone.
Then we'll get him. Eventually. Nice place. At least something right, and he actually takes
it. It takes such a long time.
They're both with the supplies of the Yandex are quite annoying to take down.
Yeah, they actually farmed like, I think Amar farmed like two camps, they're, I don't even know if that ends up being fully-worn, I guess because they get the tower and open something up for themselves.
Yeah, they're just farming on the rest of them completely here.
Bottom, Chira. Does feel forced to go BKB.
Could be KB game anyway.
Can pretty much bypass as we said, majority of the damage magical coming up from LGD.
Let's see if that Greaves pipe is going to be the difference maker in fights, at least
to halt some of the damage.
Now the other factor is going to be, does LGD have damage to go through some of these
heroes themselves when they vitaminize like this?
We'll have to see since which is still behind.
Illusion, they got baited.
CPAA, I don't just want to go for anything down there, they're trying to bait as well
with the second illusion.
LGD, unlikely to fall for that one.
is very close to having his blink dagger. He's already had some pretty damn good positioning
in this game. So Yami Sumail, right, his work is cut out for him. These two pesky supports
in the back lines are things he needs to answer.
Through these moments, Witz is doing a good job of not falling too much further behind,
keeping a respectable, you know, kind of gap between him and Watson, but still obviously
not a gap that you're happy to have as an SF. I mean, he's not falling completely out
of the game. So that's going to be the thing obviously when the fights go down, like even
though he's still relatively up there in the net worth, will the SF be able to do enough
in these fights?
That's going to be the question, especially into a counter. I feel like Kaz is quite a
counter pick versus the SF though, right? Not only are you mage slaying him, you're getting
on top of him, you kill him in split seconds too. So we'll have to see. Which is close
to 18, so that is another one of those damage bumps that he's going to get.
They use a ball and a vacuum on him, though.
That was way more than they wanted to use.
They need to bail out immediately after that.
No way you're fighting without a wall vacuum.
Yeah, Wits. Okay, level 18 has been hit. How much does it actually go up? So he's up to 74 damage now, or 85, whatever, when he pops the feast.
And soon to 20. So it will still continue to grow for his damage in terms of right clicks.
But it's just the question is going to be of how does that matchup actually look versus the Kaz in this time.
And not just the Kaz, right? We do keep having to look at this Amar, who is pretty much, I mean he is that second carry, Manta plus going to the BKB, he's almost level 20 on himself.
So some heavy scaling that they are going for on the side of the index.
Chira.
Stanking.
We're seeing if he could get some sort of setup on to Chira.
That was a dangerous tumblers.
I will say.
A sneaky one, but he could have just landed right on top of an ember.
Uh-oh.
Yeah, I mean it probably helped out for him that he didn't fly under there because backup
was around from Malady.
Snaking's been able to at least find his lens, so does have some of that extra cast range to play around.
This does not feel like the easiest game to get these grips off.
A lot of different ways to trip it up.
Smoke up from Yandex, they've got amp damage on the Ember.
BKB's at the ready for the Kaz.
How close is BKB? Which does have it done?
So it does have that double, well triple protective, triple defensive item for the SF.
So they have made themselves quite a bit more durable with the builds.
It's just, are they going to have the damage to be able to go through this cast and this necrone?
Yeah, like, will keeping this SF alive make the difference?
Yeah, actually matter and sort of the drawn out fights.
Right, because Greaves, Pipe, Manta, BKB, Pipe.
All the, all the survivability.
It's really much of everything.
For Wits.
Sumail.
We'll be able to break the smoke nice positioning from him
Power rune it's gonna be
So now getting changed up
Curse in the back. It's pretty solid one. It's gonna allow them to immediately get the chance to kill Theo
Hey, it's gonna put a safety with the yours
But as he comes down the chains of their post supports gone
Positioning from the supports are just so hard for LGD. Much easier as we see from the two supports, but they're doing a lot of work on the side of Yandex.
Either tanking ganks, or there we just see the opportunity, another beautiful curse.
Even Grip was used. It was a fraction of a second, Snake and Tried to find an angle, but...
Yandex one step ahead.
Keeping themselves consistently at this 5-6 kates that you continue. Now starting to grow a little more, too.
I mean what still has to play out in these fights to sort of allow the space for which to kind of get in commit with the BKB get a
Requiem off late. What is he looking to follow up on?
They need to just find Malady, but they don't have the best ways of gathering information with their heroes, right?
Like who's gonna go into the back? It's got to be the Void Spirit, but it's dangerous for him to just fully commit to the backline
As we've seen he went, they'd go for Yashakaya
There's no way you can go for a mark here. As you can plan to say for the BKB just in case there was
Anything you look down behind
You can see how confidently chase this forward. It's tough. Yeah, just the BKB is
Chira, he's got the chase down
To like do anything to help out
He comes out but the BKB is already there for Chira Junicero dive on fold with the remnants to kill a snake
I'm who's over the wall, Theo
Another change, another two supports dead on LTD. It's much easier as we see Chira
He has just the easier access points to get to the back lines deal with these two supports
They're not as elusive as this Wyvern or this Windranger by any means.
I like how Chir just was like, I'm just going to DKM this game, right?
Sumail, he's gone for the Yashakaya now afterwards.
It's a hero that you don't like to buy BKBYON for the Void Spirit, but it almost, I don't know, it's tough.
It's really tough to say how they can execute these fights because he needs to deal with Wyvern,
but if he jumps in too far, he gets to die to Astana.
So I'm just unsure how they really approach the teamfights in particular to let Wits attack.
really perhaps it's gonna have to come from the darks here the blink if you can
just find an opportunity to get a multi-hero vacuum just to cause the chaos
in the fights but definitely seeing the ease in terms of fighting it from the
side of the index now she I mean too big item pickups there she was plus a
nullifier and there's also kind of feel like we're getting to see you know why
you know, whereas, you know, Samuel's had some pretty excellent games on the void spirit.
Yes.
But in a game like this against an Ember, even though you have kind of the same net worth,
and if anything for the most part, he's had slightly more net worth than the Ember.
Just the nature of the heroes, right?
The Ember just seems so much more threatening in these fights than a void spirit could ever be.
Uh, the same sort of net worth.
Yeah, it's just so much safer.
He can always just jump in, have ways to get out as well.
And like I said, I just, yeah, cheer, just the fact that Ember can go for BKB and it doesn't feel bad,
But if a Void Spirit goes for BKB, it probably feels kind of bad, so...
Definitely seeing the power of this hero.
Smoke up, looking for the teamfight.
Did they get a big pick up for Whitsun between? They got a small crit.
He did get the 20 talent, so...
Extra damage for him.
He does hit pretty hard.
Pretty much.
Decent back view.
As he tripped the combo down, they get the crit point at once, then it's a big one!
Now set up for them to take Watson out.
There we go.
So it's a vacuum they need.
Nice combo.
So if you can get anything more from this,
and I'm after running back in on them,
the side down on a snag kick.
Wits trying to stand his ground against Chirra.
We'll be able to push him back here with the threat,
the physical damage output.
Snae finding the angle there for the catch.
And it's got a huge kill.
Biggest kill they've found this game, LGD, taking Watson out.
So chaos is just going to be what it has to be, right?
and Divide needs to just try to find these opportunities for multi-hero vacuums
so that Sumail can start to pick apart these backlines as well.
Yeah, that was pretty much perfect there.
And a promising sign there from LGD.
Big step toward the right direction.
Which now perhaps going to be able to surpass the Kess's farm
because of that get the Daedalus finished up, so exactly when they need to hit, they do.
And Martho, still a problem, something they're going to have to figure out how to deal with,
because he's about to have the heart finished up.
Nice solo kill.
There we go, Sumel.
Now, Snakey can get the grip off on these core targets in the fights, and that will be
the difference, make up.
All important for them as we see another smoke from LGD. They're wanting to get these consecutive kills.
Windrangers still dead. If they can't look for a fight during this time, they just get some good pickups.
This is the Daedalus stun for Wits coming out.
And Sumail does have a shield room for the next fight too, so can look to really bypass and get to the backline.
I've got some good answers though on that, you know, something to the heart done on Amar and the fact that Sax has got the
Got the Lotus, you know, if you just put that down on Watson in these teamfights, Kes is gonna be pretty uncontrollable
And they always need to see Malady that is always gonna be the key for them
So they did it once, LGD. Can they do it again?
Smoke won't connect this time
10th game here.
The index now, looking for the smoke themselves with those timings as we were mentioning, Shiva's
nullifier plus the heart.
Three cores are very tanky, and ooh, it's a damage top.
As long as they don't hemorrhage too many more kills, that's not so bad.
Give me up your life for an amp damage
The Roche it is up do they know it's up. I think they do so they can just start for they do kill it very fast here
That's you've been over
It's gonna be my child is a sort of win the fight around the Roche this time around look at him
Are he knows how strong can speed a front line?
Say just get rid of the snaking bane first
Believe he doesn't buy that.
The Nightmare to try and live, but he'll still take down the damage of the vessel.
Ramar is diving in beyond the tier 2.
Winston drop, and they're here to drop the site.
Hotline burst to blow. Get the BKB up.
But once he's ready, he's down with the BKB himself.
Take Wits out, and now they're ready to dive in for more.
Raptor Dance comes in the play to buy.
Bail protects himself in the middle, but with the Ghost Sector,
some of them can jump back in.
But with the BKB up and a Mar-Mars, perfectly fine.
Perfectly fine. Oh, get the grip onto Watson
Making it ball back for this the rest of your neck surrounding kill him off a second time
Bo
Yeah, pause there lag
Yeah, well, I mean that's a classy that yeah, I destroy him and a team finally be like oh, yeah lag by the way
Yeah, the decision for an S. They just yeah jump out of the pit jump the heroes the cat snake back to back and wits
He almost dies before getting DTB up in a way that a more uses briefer the way that some of these pros do
use Reaper is. It was close on the numbers. Up until this point, you know,
LGD, they've definitely held on better than a lot of other teams have against
Shandex. You know, they haven't got completely stomped on kind of the farming
front and such, but the overall vibe of the game has very much felt like it's
It's been kind of one rough play away from just crumbling completely.
It feels like FroudGiddy has to be perfection in the end, it feels like they can make quite
a bit of mistakes and still be very comfortable as it progresses.
The volatility of these lineups that we're seeing that are built around an SF in this
day and age, they're just...
It can look like this.
Again, even in a situation where his farm is not bad, I feel like that's got to be the
thing that stands out the most.
SFs, he's had the space, he's getting the farm, but what can this hero actually do to
win you the game?
Can we get damage numbers, actually?
Can we get a chance?
I did want to look at a couple things here too, because I just don't really feel like
I see him connecting on attacks on heroes either, right?
In the teamfight, sure.
We saw him in the one fight that we could see the SF attack, but whenever we do get that,
a chance for that hero damage if possible, please.
And now Rosh, take it back up and go for it.
It's not going to be a floor either since it did actually get brought down by LGD before,
so isn't he going to yell?
Now, once he's got quite a bit of money, he is quite rich, so yeah, just looking at the
split, which a 12k damage for your carry is a shadow field, right?
That's not what you want to be seeing.
And it's, you know, not to blame him, it just feels like they have good answers for it and
perhaps some things about the hero.
It's difficult for him to just hit these targets.
Amar now, level 25 has been hit.
He always takes these, by the way.
We have that.
A lot of players is very different from what they do when you take his Neckro.
He's all about the efficiency of numbers because of how he heals, so.
Watson also approaching that 25.
Their tricorps is starting to get to some pretty dangerous territories.
for LGD it's potentially one fight away from the end.
Snaking's trying to get toward his aggonyms desperately, but watching a bane hit some
ogres is quite sad when he has the greedy champion.
It's gonna take a bit of time.
You can tell they're feeling no pressure now.
And DeVy, I do have to comment on this because I quite like that he did pivot with the build
this game right but it just yeah it still hasn't really mattered in a lot of
those fights we've seen here yet it's just having the edge every single time
the Watson has always a treat to watch there's one every game on it yep it's a
hard character ban against I there's a lot of heroes right now the Watson will
be ready to dominate games with and so I just find a solo grab here on the
snaking, the supports bullying the support.
Yeah, you said that these two support, it felt like they just had,
they made so much space on the map and they're just super elusive.
They really did. It's one of those cases, right, where you look at the kills.
They've had 14 kills, LGD. 11 of those have been killing the supports.
They've only managed to kill a core three of those 14 times.
And some of those support kills took 30, 40, 50 seconds, maybe even longer
from the way they think chase down.
So, I mean, they're on fantastically annoying heroes, right?
The windmanger and the wyvern, if they get a decent start, they don't die easily.
Knock a push.
Pretty much everyone out there in a second was snaking back in, but is there anything to be done?
They back up reset Watson picks up his swift blink.
Nothing to deal with lanes and catch heroes.
Hoots are travel 2 about to come out from the mar.
It's tough to see where they want to try to mount this next fight.
It's all eyes on just vacuum combos if they can somehow get that perfect setup for it.
I think they maybe even saw them coming out here, at least they're reading them, they're
making
did they catch? I think they saw the Vi
yep, they did
not a catch
Yeah, next. Smooth sailing for them now. Yeah, they couldn't kind of do what they wanted.
They're not in any rush. Pretty much as we heard from the Coat trier, Sally was like,
well, they could win 20 minutes, 40 minutes, 60 minutes, doesn't matter to them. Obviously
he had a pretty good read on the game, right? He said, so maybe the lanes could be like 50-50.
They kind of were, right? There was a, you know, still as a team, did end up getting
the slight edge but that was the closest part of the game. Obviously everything
since that has looked very much in Yandex's favor.
Only a couple hiccups right with DT Cheer, like the main one him getting picked off in the mid that let them go for the
roast steal that's kind of what prolonged this into LGD being able to fight back a
little bit harder. Yeah it's just been tough for sort of some
male of the boys for it to match what Cheer has been able to do on the Ember.
I think a lot of the part that is just the nature of the heroes, right?
We've seen Smell absolutely dumps her on the void spirit.
But maybe letting the enemy have the chance to get the Ember spirit, it's going to make
you gain a lot harder.
Definitely.
And the supports, right, just feels like it's always easier to play your supports when
you have something like Ember spirit.
Just nature of the hero.
Looking for the wraparound.
Divy is trying to find that big vacuum.
Ok, some mail.
He's going to go to the jump forward there.
Going to be able to split pretty nicely on Yandex
and no chance for the Bites playing any kind of big combo follow-up.
Just great positioning again.
Chira playing on the right side, not looking to play on the left,
so he knows that the smoke probably is coming from that angle,
so he's protecting his supports.
Back up, look to reset.
They know that all LGD is inside of the base.
Alright, look at Amara.
Look how he's queued up.
Where did he get that right click gun?
I would love to see it but we will not, unfortunately.
He's having fun.
CellBKB by Daedalus, come on Amar.
He also gets the idol of Screeok, this neutral item by the way.
This quick into neutral item is so insane when you get to this advantage on the Necro.
They have no true strike and you just pop this and you have like insane evasion.
you're super tanky, very underutilized, or maybe under notice to neutral, this
uh, false flight, I don't know what this is about, thingy. Theo, caught again.
Oh, Chara? I'm just thinking about diving in for even more. Look at Theo. Let's get a
healed up. Am I gonna dive in though? Theo will slowly but surely die.
Foxes in with a BKB, double kill for Amar.
From the wall down, slowly gonna get Amar and the curse is there.
Catches to my catches, wins the sight, gets dropped down on a Somale.
He'll buy back immediately, but LGD being forced back to the fountain.
Somale will try to jump in with the burst onto Amar, but it's not enough to kill him.
Witt tries to stand his ground with a BKB, but he also just have to run back to the fountain.
They just don't have the damage right now.
Amar is cleaning up big time, ultra kill for him.
Can they get in the rampage? He's dying. He's gonna die.
He's gonna die?
He's gonna die?
Oh!
He's more disciplined with this team.
Ah, with Falcons, he would have known.
The discipline of being on a new team, that's what it is.
He doesn't want to die. Maybe he doesn't want to die also.
Don't call it.
That's not the Amar. I didn't say this BKB didn't buy Daedalus. What's he doing?
Anyway, game's over. Gigi's called. The Antnex will take this game one.
They might still last 43 minutes here.
the game. The game is
a little bit different.
They did. Which is
respectable. Uh, compared to
what we've seen other teams
have to endure against Yandex,
but it still just always felt
like a real uphill struggle for
their lineup with the start
that they had or didn't have.
Yes, Yandex. So the same thing.
A lot of these games right 15 to
20 minute marks. They just hit
that switch. Boom. Just
dominate the game and overall
right. We did for the SF. It's
a tougher hero. We've seen it
struggle and needs to get some
more out of the lane. It
game, but as for now, Yandex, they take game one.
Yeah, it looked very good for them, LGD clearly had something planned, but it just didn't
quite come together the way they wanted it to, and some of the matchups didn't go the
way they seemed to expect they would go.
Overall though, it is, I think, a decent show for LGD because their head was in the right
space, they just couldn't pull it through.
No, it's a good showing.
I think obviously, yeah, you take the L towards the end of the game, but the first 15-20 minutes,
I think they did good. I don't think the draft is like bad by any means that they can't really play in any source and even here when they're like down in the game
They're still like playing to win, you know, they're making good moves
But the thing is that against Yanleks you need to make good moves throughout the whole game
You can't just have a 10-minute time window and that's it
Yeah, I think it's not only that so Yanleks because it's so individually skilled when they do get more than a lane
They're expected they do kind of
It's like a catalyst even a stronger game like they don't sit back after a good lane and go
Ah, yeah, we're good, we'll scale, it's like, no, no, they're gonna remind you
that you should have probably got more from this anything than, of course, I am talking to the
Amar versus the Necrophos, uh, Shadowfiend lane, sorry, that was so much better for the Necrophos
than it was meant to be. I get on paper, there have been nerfs to Shadowfiend, but still, I think
we have seen Vayne Shadowfiends do a lot more even on this patch, but in this game it just didn't work out.
No, then you gotta also think about the fact that maybe the hero doesn't work out against
the necro phones or maybe there's just that much level of outskill?
I think there's some form of it but not like to a too big of a degree. I think I fully agree that
I think in other matchups there's like Bane, Necro, like the Bane SF would do more. So yeah that
does speak to the skill I think of Amar and Soxa that they can damage control the lane so well to
like overplay and get more out of it. The only thing I would maybe think about if I'm LGD,
I actually think the problems, the problem like in Yandex is the supports.
I think you should look at a draft that maybe addresses them first,
because when you look at, yeah okay, Amar and Watson and Jura Junior,
Soxa and Malady are always in the right place right now.
He's going to play Dazzle, Winter Wyvern, he will always counter initiate.
Maybe you can look at like a Nightstalker or a Lycan draft or Spectre.
Spectre is hard to play against Amar's Hero Pool, I get that,
but something that dumpsters these supports, because I see them shine in every single game.
I agree on that one, but also to move away from the supports, I think Wittz in this game as well,
when he's on a shadowfiend compared to what he was doing yesterday.
We didn't see him enter the game with confidence, he wasn't making these rotations.
If he didn't rotate, it just wasn't that successful.
Of course, that is because the supports from Yandex are playing so well, the positioning, everything Kedav is mentioning.
But I just, I wish there was a way that OGD could be more comfortable leaving the laning phase.
Because I think they put a lot of intensity on matchups going well, things going well.
Because Devai, he had free farm top, he was really happy.
But then it never had that moment where it clicked for LGD.
It was like, okay, now we can come on the game.
Like every clip we've watched was like them responding to the move,
them counter playing a move.
It was like, I never got to see them go, okay, we are going to kill Yandex.
And we will set ourselves like some motion in this game.
And look at the stat line.
Yeah, but the way we just said it, and you know,
we obviously did very well on the Necrophos,
but maybe we should just give it a support
because who makes sure that cores have good length, right?
It's it's always the subs but I gotta say like Omar in all of these he's just putting on a show
And it doesn't matter if his hero is picked first if it's picked on 24
He just somehow gets away with these games and I do think like out of the skill that you mentioned earlier
This is what speaks to it. They have the fastest games
Some of them have the best KDAs and yeah, they're just out playing their opponents
Yeah, I feel like maybe then the only solution and this is very difficult
The easier said than done is you have to make sure he has battling and that's difficult
But that is difficult. How are you going to make sure of that?
That's quite the conundrum that Boba in this case has to deal with.
This is not really a drafting thing. I'd say too much. That's the easy answer.
It really is just understanding what his heroes have to do in certain matchups.
The Windranger pick enabled the Necrophos to fill a little stable in lane
because you had the poking from it,
but you just need to try and find a way to understand his heroes
and beat him at his own game, but you can't just try and ban him.
Yeah, we're gonna find or rather relive a couple moments and see why exactly it went well for Yandex.
First moment we're going to, Kazoo around minute 15 in the mid lane, full action.
Yeah, because this actually like it started quite well for LGD, the way they initially, you know,
execute, sleeve, you drag them back, center thump, everything looks good.
But the only thing is, so here you do have the support shine for Yandex, right?
Malady finds a good curse.
But the thing is, if LGD find this moment and they back off here,
this could have been quite good for them.
They didn't need to overplay.
This is Yannex's patience and understanding, okay, and also here, really nice sleep safe by snaking, so sure, even when they overplay, they're finding good moments, but there were like two big moments both here in like 50 minutes and then later, where Yannex are just, you know, right place, right time.
They're not overplaying, they're just playing patient, and I think this is what they do so well. They know when they need to be aggressive and when they kind of need to sit back, and then this is later on, here I need to call out some mail because he's had this death multiple times in his tournament.
tournament. Active rune is coming. Nighttime mid is the most scary place on the map. You're not
allowed to die here. Now he dies, they're going to lose mid tier 1, they're going to lose triangle
control, active rune. Now like it's not just this, the whole next minute, they're going to lose
everything on the map. It kind of feels like LGD put a lot of eggs in the basket of like we will
win this 15 minute fight because yesterday we were praising Wits like these moves are amazing
but he kind of made the same move in both games and then over this game they make the same move
again. Obviously Yandex have watched their replays and it's like guys be ready because at
round 15-20 they're going to come from a tier 1 and we need to be able to counter play and of
course with Wyvern in these heroes very very sure we're doing it. Yeah and we said multiple times
that you can't really make a mistake like that against Yandex because they will win that fight
and then it will snowball out of control and you're going to be playing from the back from
that point onward which is especially bad if you're the carry we're going to take a look at the carry
comparison here with Wits and Watson. Yeah the problem with I think the other thing carry in general
is always you need to lock down to enable the damage whilst Watson as a kez
He doesn't need locked down because he can kite in and out of the fight
And you can see here when you look at the kind of the net worth and damage numbers, you know
When you fast forward 10 minutes, it's quite a dark story
I think for the shadow fiend compared to the kez because you know the shadow fiend he gains like a thousand damage across 10 minutes of gameplay
Yeah, that's of course we've seen the clips and kind of the product of why but then you look towards Watson
He's like nearly doubled his hero damage his itemization enables him to get in and out of the fight. It's very very scary
And it is a reason why we don't see Shadowfiend too often.
You're meant to win your lane, you're meant to park yourself behind basically like at least three heroes of lockdown.
You A-click and you pray, and then you win the game.
Didn't happen.
The Shadowfiend was picked instantly after the Necro Force, clearly as a counter towards the Necro.
Do we think Shadowfiend would have even been banned out?
By Yannix. Could they have gone for something else to see if there was a different hero that might have fit a little bit better?
I actually believe it probably would have been ignored and the earth spirits the willows the heroes
They got respected in later phase could have made me picked up there
And they could have slowly into the draft
But I think after seeing the earths and the timber response which beat yandex yesterday
Maybe in their heads were like we have wits one of the best SF players if he believes in it
We give it to him. Yeah, so maybe it was just like a misread from wits
Bobber had confidence in him and now it's like, okay, we didn't work out now. We go game two
All right, so this was what's calling it and now
That's true, it's easier that way for the players
Coaches will be the first to agree like guys on me. Let's just go next
So we will clear their minds and see what's coming later and make sure that they give it their all in game two
Let's see if they can after a break
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Yeah, it's... at some points it becomes really bored, it is like everyone has nine items
or something like that.
Yeah, I agree.
And I think there's like a better aspect in Dota so I can put it 9
9 there's no 10 otherwise I would put that and I would say 8 but I didn't find it nice
Nice.
I mean, I support you right now.
You guys have too much damage and then they have too much HP.
Yeah.
Make them 600 HP max, slow them again.
Yeah, I think it was a pretty low-skilled part of the game, to be honest.
Yeah.
I think, I just took two vehicles.
I didn't play professional at that moment, I see.
But anyway, I suppose it was very bored to do that.
Yeah. I mean, looking back, it's actually one of the only things I feel that was actually low-skinned in the processing before.
Can't put it to no.
I don't think there's no 10, otherwise I would say 10.
I mean, for me, the nine is the top.
I also fan of Yadoro, but I don't choose nine, because it's a lot of respect.
But I'm also very fan of him.
Nice.
Okay.
I mean, I enjoyed like, I guess I enjoyed more than non-playoff games.
You know what I mean?
Like when it's time for playoff games, there's nothing more enjoyable than that.
But otherwise strategy and game is like kind of same.
I mean, I really enjoyed to like make my brain to work because I'm very interactive.
So I cannot stay quiet.
Truth, I'm always there doing like so much straight things in my mind.
It's every time.
game. Game two of the upper
bracket finals is coming your
way. A lot of pressure on the
amount of your screen. Boba is
going to draft for LGD as they
are facing a young dex. Young
dex has looked super good the
entire tournament around and
they were also able to beat
LGD in the first game of this
series, and we've talked about
this series. Not just as okay.
for LGD to potentially learn a lot from Yandex in case they face again tomorrow in the Grand Finals.
You've got to think of the long game and I think Boba Volkoches will know how to do exactly that.
Kessie, where do you want him to take it?
I'm honestly not sure. I would think maybe to talk about what I said before.
I think just respecting the Yandex supports and trying to somehow beat them,
whether that's with draft or with like gameplay where you can make your first move.
But also just, I think when you have snaking in the team, they're going to take it like one of two
two ways because he loves talking about like the fights and the small things.
Maybe he feels that the draft doesn't really need to be changed.
They need to look at their execution of like the 50-minute fight we looked at,
the 20-minute fight where when the game is in control, no matter the draft,
you're down 1k gold, you have moves to make.
If you mis-execute those, it doesn't matter on your heroes, you will lose the game.
It's just such an exciting prospect is the problem-solving that Yandex presents every single team in this tournament.
It's like, do you want to try and beat us in lanes?
That's what Aurora tried doing yesterday. It didn't work.
Now for LGD, it's like maybe not the lanes in the focus, but it's like the first choice after the game.
Every team, when they go up against Yandex, it's a new problem they have to face.
And all of them amount to Yandex being the best team in the tournament.
But you have to try and overcome one thing.
You're not going to be able to improve on all of them.
That is not humanly possible within a tournament.
And I would agree with Kezzy that I think for LGD, it is that first move.
It's the break from the laning phase they should look towards.
Well, we are going to see so far a very similar start to the draft
as it is the similar pick order. So Yannick's with first pick and also both teams stayed at the same
sides. We are going to have a change though as the the bands up until that final ban of LGD looked
the same but instead of the Viper ban that LGD went for previous game we see the Necrophos ban.
That was the hero that Yannick's went for in their opening pick so they got to change it up.
I think it's going to be very easy for us to say oh Necrophos is a better ban than Viper because
In regards to draft, first picking a necrophos, the draft is still open, you can play through it.
Viper is a little bit more of a response here than an opening here.
So the LG was just afraid of Viper, and then they got reminded of necrophos, hence why we're now in this position.
Still 100% win rate on Saksa on the Dark Willow, they'll open with that one.
It's not the first time we've seen teams opening with Dark Willow, who'd wink.
Five in a row.
Yeah, this hero is incredibly good.
It's first of all a support that's hard to kill, a support that lanes well, it trades well, it can go for kills, and it has counter team fighting with Terrorize, it's just, I think it's incredible.
I mean, her innate makes the hero so good. Like if you've deleted the innate, I think a lot of 4 players might even shift away from when they play the hero, but it's being able to press realm, have any type of regeneration, and then you're back to pretty much full HP.
It is an absolute outplay potential to the support matchup fight.
Windranger fits in the same line of position 4s as the Hootwink and the Willow a little bit.
But it is, of course, the hero that has flex potential.
Why does Yandex prioritize Dark Willow over the Windranger, considering Dark Willow doesn't give any flex potential?
I would say that Willow is just a better hero.
Like, I would put Willow in S tier, I would put Windranger right below,
and then maybe she makes up for, I guess, the differential of how good the heroes is by being able to flex.
to flex. But at the same time, your first pick, you can lock in your support. I think why LGD are
happy with it. Yeah, they can flex it and their second pick, so they can hold it all the way to
the end if they want to. But also at the same time, I would have preferred even the Windranger
potentially in the last game over the SF. I think when you play against Amar, it's nice to have
heroes that can take it to the next level. Like Windranger is a good laner, but you can also then
assert her dominance and her small net worth league lead like he did yesterday. Also Willow
covers really nicely against all like the melee spirit heroes that are trying to get in and out of
fights like thrown down roots and just it just means that your 15 minute fights are so much better
and the Andex are a team they dominate at the 15 minute mark so why not have heroes that just
complement that takeover areas so simply with a single spell. I have to now like think a little
bit too because LGD have shown us like very similar drafting when it comes to like their
second phase ban you know the Slark into their Pickpango or Void Spirit under 16-17. I would
I would like to see if they perhaps have a different idea going into the next phase.
Maybe there's an invoker, I think, on the line for either team.
I think it's a pretty smart draft from Yandex where they do upgrade Ember to a ban because
I think LGD in the previous draft, when they banned slot, they could have just embered themselves
in 13, and then the draft progresses.
But instead they're like, you know, we'll give the Ember away, we take our voice, we're
happy with the trade.
Now it's like, I think Yen is like, no, no, no, they won't be happy with this trade.
They're going to take it.
Yeah, they will upgrade it.
So I think it's a very good call out.
you still ban the Slark considering I mean it's normally countering an Ember
spirit but maybe it's also strong enough against the Void spirit? I think it
entirely depends on if we're gonna see that like LGD utilize Pangos and
Void spirits in this phase or if the Vi goes you know what Simel take last pick
I want my my centaur my my point of open phase of laners. I think if they're
looking for like their voice for it again I you know wouldn't be too
surprised. If they're doing something like the timber band this now leads me to
believe that there's a higher chance that this Windranger is potentially a
four and you're looking for maybe a tiny or Sven on like a 16-17 where you're
just trying to make it a little bit harder for Amar on his 18 pick. I think
both teams are respecting each other immensely in this game too right like
promoting the end of ban in Yandex, LGD taking the Windranger, taking the Wyvern
now even with the timber band you're thinking of which having tiny and
lifestealer and the heroes that have done pretty well for him in the
tournament you respect things like both teams really are just putting a lot into
the second draft it's not just follow some same script yeah in previous game
we saw the like commit quite heavily in some new with the shadow fiend in their
draft this time both teams seem to be dancing around what they really want to
do up until now anyway as the IO comes out we have seen Jan let's play IO
before. We saw it in the hands of Shearer Jr and it looked very good but it is most certainly a flex
pick as well. I kind of just want to see him hit mid honestly. I think the way that he played it yet
really good. It was really good but yeah in this pick position especially when you have the witch
up there. It is the same partnership that we saw before. It is very scary. The great thing with
the draw so far from Yandex is if no matter what IO mid will carry one support on the map will be
be bought, one support will be top, and they'll be calling for a relocate and they have kill
potential. You have maledicts on the witch doctor, and then you have bedlam on the willow.
Like you have so much damage, but I will have free reign to relocate anywhere they want.
At least the upside, because I think last night, Aurora definitely got a little bit
caught off guard by seeing that IO in the mid lane. This time around, LGD is fully aware
that they need a mid hero that can deal with an IO.
You need to be ready for the huskars, the vipers, Guillemar, heroes here, where if LGD picks a really
Generic carry like this fan a blob in the safe lane that wants to farm for 10 minutes
You are gonna get like the most toxic kick for a mom
I think you have to pick your mid and your offline here
I think you don't pick your carry at least there's too many
I think like a margin kind of changes the dynamic of drafting a little bit both with the bands you like lay into him
But also how you need to pick because I think he has too many open picks on 18
Okay, so you like that one oh
Well, thank you. Oh, the over the Largo. Oh, the Largo because now I don't think this looks very pretty on their side of the LGD
It looks like they're lacking a bit of damage quite a bit of damage like a lot of damage
They they have damage but with items like Largo when he gets to like sound sky plus one when park has
You know which way plus one like they will be able to do things. It just looks a little ugly on paper. I'd agree
Well, you wanted the nice soccer. You're getting the nice soccer. It's just not in the team that you were expecting.
Yeah, and this is now mid and I was now carrying. Because like to pick puck in open phase, like we're not even seeing pucks picked on 18 or 24 in the majority of drafts.
Maybe it's because Nisha isn't playing. But still, it's like, if you're not picking it there, picking on 16, 17, enabling the counter, it's very, very scary.
And it's like, because you showed the Largo, Largo is quite a, he's a hit or miss laner.
He either dominates the lane for aggression and farms, or he only farms.
And I think when you see Nastal, I think Nastal is just gonna hit creeps in this lane.
He's not gonna get shut down, he has good regen, good armor.
Like he's got a witch shot to pet him as well.
I think also, so like the Puck Largo is good together, but like people saying they do need time.
And I think, let's say you put like the IO carry against Largo.
I think IO is happy with this.
like I was a hero that needs time right whereas Largo he's the same thing just in the off lane
They're both just gonna free farm not touch each other and then like later on you know
They both get their items, but I think I will come online quite a bit faster with his first eggs
And I start was also insanely good
That's not cuz mid of course I was care here. I think she just said that as well
I said I made it I said they're both round
Throwback to yesterday
Do you think it's gonna be as big of a performance as yesterday?
Or you don't step up to the occasion like you did yesterday?
I think once it hits like the 15-minute mark, you'll have big balls on Iowa, yeah?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, I didn't mean for that to happen.
Sorry, team.
Do you mean?
You did say they were round.
You just said they were real.
Yeah, but they were round because Largo is enjoying life.
Along.
Is that what you're saying?
Damn, yeah, yeah.
Is that what you're saying?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Very good.
Yeah.
Yeah, Iowa could be a foodie as well.
We'll never know.
looking forward to the commentary of that lane though because when Largo uses his lick it's gonna be
oh yeah true yeah and most likely they will be laning up against each other they will yeah
we'll of course see how they turned that one yeah good luck Owen
okay we got the keeper of the light and the hoodwink banned out by Yandex so they are expecting
that wind ranger to be in the hands of wits or at least respecting that maybe a little bit more
I'm not sure if you've ever
seen it before. Yeah. So, we
haven't seen the I carry as of
yet from Watson, but after the
international, it very much is
in the back of people's minds. I
really enjoyed the interview
from Saksa where he said we had
leftover prep from TI and we're
using it here because, of course,
we've only had a small letter
patch. There will be things that
are transferable. But just the
similar as to yesterday.
Yeah.
Again, their lineup is just, you just, you can just tell, like,
if this is a pop, you know, this dire team that they're assholes.
Yeah.
No, look at Nite, Sokka, Ayo, Husker, you're like, get a life, guys.
Yeah, they're all like level 40 accounts.
Yeah.
They only use the well-played or the love voice line, like,
but they're very good at the game.
Well, OK, so this makes Windranger carry a lot better.
Obviously, you could just slot it in there.
OK, so the thing is, as much as you're trying to predict the hero,
No matter what you pick on RGD, you still don't have the tools in your first four picks to deal with the 12-20 minute mark of the game.
The fact that Haskell can go to Roshan, they're going to break onto your towers.
When Parklix is a coil, how are you killing heroes in the early game? What is the 1 plus 1 combo?
Yeah, you don't have that yet.
There's nothing. Largo needs at least 15 minutes of really, really good farm to lead his team.
And Largo is going to run in, he's going to run into Maladik, he's running into Spears,
an eye that's tethering away with an act of BKB.
I'm just really afraid that whoever is taking this last pick in the draft,
they can't solve it all.
A lot of problems to address.
It seems like the wits is yapping a little bit,
so maybe he's looking at a different carry.
But again, against Huskar, it is difficult.
You lose 80% of the carry pool to go with.
Maybe they want to be more cute.
You look at some tasks you want to pull out for a Fiola core, you play some safe lane
tri-lane, play aggressive.
Okay, they go off the grid, so I think they're the only team so far that have played it here.
Grim is an interesting hero, just because when you put the bug on heroes, you do get
their vision.
So during some of these fights, if you bug the Night Stalker, during the ultimate, you
are going to have all vision.
But it's not like, damn, LGD, they found the heroes.
still, the problems are inherent, they are going to have to survive Yandex, be it through
exceptional laning phase to get themselves to the items to just defend, but I'm not looking
at LGD ever leading this game, I feel like they are going to naturally be down 5-10k
gold early on, and we are looking at a comeback through waveskipping, getting Sumer and getting
whips to his BKB somehow, and once they have those items, you have to find the perfect
fight, but the vision from Yandex, even if there is a comeback, they're always going
have better vision because of Max Dorca, they're gonna have better positioning because of the
Aya relocate, Amon is gonna be so scared in the lane, I'm really afraid for LGD, but if they win
it is some insane like outplay that we are yet to see from them. What do we like most about
LGD's draft? Actually, perhaps surprisingly, I think Largo can have impact, like later like
minute 15 to 20 I think if you get some items, the damage up on Yannix isn't that crazy, like
Naisaka gives a lot of vision, Husker needs a lot of spears, you know, Aya with the axe, it takes
time so I think eventually you can be quite strong with like Winterheal, Largo as well.
The only problem I see is that this Grimstroke pick for me isn't really doing it. I'm a big fan
of this hero. I don't really see the purpose that much in this type of draft. The only purpose I see
though is like if Grim and Largo can find Kill Potential in lane, but like you lick the guy on
top of an ink swirl, you have the frog stomped down, like you catch Malady or Ile of God,
that could maybe be something to lean on, but yeah it's very much a Grim, not like damn that's a
a good group. So everything with LGD's draft it feels like they have been outpicked and potentially
will be outplayed. I would like to see them be creative I think with how you can use your heroes
like early on. Maybe there is a move into the safe lane, you slow down like Amar on the Huskar or
you look for like playing with Somael on his first coil because I do think you need that. I think
you need a curveball in this type of game. Yeah I think the way you guys are talking about this
draft it seems like you are liking the draft on the side of Yandex just a little bit more. A lot more
99 to 1 jiva.
99 to 1 triple downing.
But also, I mean, if you're speaking of liking, maybe you guys want to like
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Thanks. I like Nomad too. And I'm here with Mr. Bulba, who I also like, so let's get into this.
I mean, I'm not going to sugarcoat it. The panel are a little bit worried about your draft this game.
How are you feeling? Do you feel like there is risks here with what you've come out with?
It just depends how Elmara is going to do in the bot lane, I think, because last game he just was
way too farmed. So if Huskar suffers from the laning, if it's off lane, he's going to be kind of
useless, but obviously if he gets through it's going to be annoying. So I think it just depends
on how the Hustra does in the early game.
I feel like last game was a lot to do with that as well, with the Necphos vs SF matchup.
Like did that not go how you expected or was there something else that played there?
Yeah, I think we probably expected it to go better, but it's life.
I think we could have still, we had a chance, like the game was pretty close, but then we
just lost some of the later teamfights and Yanomar wasn't really too fat.
Alrighty, well let's give the LDD fanflings a cheer about here.
me the story of this game if it goes well for you. Who's going to pop off? How's it
going to go if things work out for you?
Witz, I think it's one of his favourite heroes of the wind. Sumail Puck is legendary. Oh,
and then looks like, oh man, I'm almost got first blood. Oh, Oscar died too. Looks good.
It's looking very good indeed. Let's get into our cast of this one. It's Hoody Pixel and
Fub.
Yeah, not a bad start there. Two kills, they might even get a third. No, that was a safe
to live, but yeah, two kills to start it.
Big plays.
I like this.
Look at what this itemization to.
This is not something you'd anticipate or expect,
perhaps, ever, right?
Just gets the orb of light.
He knows his lane.
He's looking to own the Huskar.
Windranger versus Huskar, all days, right?
Used to be this kind of lane-ish answer,
because you can play around the windrun.
Let's see if it's going to be able to do something similar
in the new days of the Huskar and with Amar.
A good start, though.
Two kills in the dream.
Absolutely. And all in all, what do you sort of make of the approaches this time around, obviously, Yandex going for some pretty dirty stuff in Night Stalkers, Huskars, IOs, and LGD as we were hoping to see, obviously, in comparison to the third game one draw, trying to be a bit different, and getting Witt's the chance to play something that we really did see him succeed on massively yesterday.
I think that's the biggest thing I'm looking at is just which needs to go absolutely bonkers in this game and overall looking at the
Game for it. It's not too bad
He has some things he can be tripped up by of course the night stalker is very annoying for you and same thing for
I own some situations, but as you said wits on his most comfortable
It's got to be eyes on him to see what he can do even though we do have a newer hero
That's a newer just because it's it's not very great right now
Just most people are staying away from it so male playing the puck curious to see what he's gonna be able to do from that
But I do think majority will be from wits what they need because what why is that?
Why has this hero been one that a lot of mids are avoiding right now?
What's happened to it there's yeah, I think they're mostly money the most recent orb nerf
Even though it's like one second it makes a big difference
That's like everybody kind of stayed away from it the damage
Also all the numbers have been starting to get changed and then the biggest one at 25 town when it did get changed
I know it's been some months, but losing that agonist
Right, or losing the piercing coil at 25, sorry.
That was pretty much the biggest thing that just made this one of the strongest scaling heroes in the game.
And now all these spirits are just great, right?
Vember is super popular, it's one of the best heroes versus Puck in the lane and game, so...
I do think it's just hard to slot this hero in at times.
Looking at it here, though, the Night Stalker is obviously going to be a big deterrent for him,
but looking at the other Disables, there's not really many for him.
So Sumail, if he does get off to a very hot start and he can find his ways to play around the NS,
could be eyes on him what he can do.
Bottom.
Again.
I'm up.
He's got fairy fire.
He's gonna be fine.
And now Witt's in trouble.
Top lane though that will kill Watson off.
Divide the S.
They would have taken him out and deep back down.
Bottom Witt's, he's gonna be okay for now with the cold embrace that healed him up a little bit.
Both of them incredibly low after that little bit of a back and forth.
This is definitely the lane to watch. Top though, they're actually making this look a bit better than I anticipated too.
It's a grim. Maybe you would get another kill to Malady trying to push with the Maladict. Fair bit of damage onto him.
He's healing up.
He is healing a lot from the TP in from Watson.
Yeah, they won't have enough damage to get through those heals.
The fact that they went through the IO once though is a big deal.
It's a big deal. It's just a very strong damaging lane, even though we don't see Grimstroke so much. Largo plus a damage deal in 4 position
Is a strong lane usually? It's just are they gonna be able to bypass all these heals? First time yes, now there's a Lotus
I think they're gonna be happy at least just getting that one kill though
And in terms of what the host guys gonna be able to bring to the mix this game Amar
are picking into the windranger. Do you sort of see why he was not afraid to do that? Why
he wouldn't care necessarily about the fact that there might be this bit of an edge four
width since the carry windranger against him in the lane?
Maybe he just feels like, I mean, maybe he does feel like he can just trade versus him.
Right now he's doing a pretty okay job of it. Let's see who gets the trade back.
I think Rick's pretty dead.
Yes.
We'll get the trail, at least.
I mean, Mara just loves the hero. So it could just be that, but it could just be that he's
like it goes both ways as we are seeing they can't trade pretty effectively
versus each other. Theo the core will back up go through the ruins not be able
to deny one away from Ture unfortunately since he does go on the
bottom side to buy. I'm surprised they got to kill the one
sub-top with even though it's a strong lane that they've gone for with the Grimm
plus the Largo this lane duo is just it's pretty broken on the heals that you
do provide on to each other. Yeah, you don't have the damage to outdo those
heels at all. Almost nobody does, so it's good that they got it early, but very
unlikely this is gonna be another rotation that they can get.
Let's see what build Watson does. I've seen him do, I think, two or three
different builds on his Isle. Sometimes he goes Dominator into Maelstrom,
sometimes he goes Dominator agonist. I think there was another build, but I
can't remember what it was. So I've watched a lot of his pump games as well,
to see what he does like to do with it so he varies Amar back away toward the
jungle for a moment here pick up some of these neutral items so accepting the
fact that it doesn't want to feed in this lane bottom versus the wind ranger
again we'll get some extra creeps socks has got the positioning for him actually
quite nice so if it does stay in this position Amar can stay down here he
doesn't want to play too far forward from the spam nighttime see what Chira is
going to do with this so far. Sumail doing very well in the matchup.
And around that sort of first dream coil, where do you imagine Sumail is going to look to
guy? Are you calling for backup or coming on the make? Can you kill Dive for Nightstalk
or not really going to happen? You're looking to the side lanes. That's actually a good question.
I'm not sure because I was like, I'm like, do you want it? You probably want to go top
or you probably can't. They're just going to heal. And bottom should already be winning.
I don't know how much harder you want to and maybe he just sticks in mid and he calls for assistance to come over if he does find an opportunity
He probably wants help mid too because he probably expects that they're gonna dive in pretty soon
It's immediately up cheers already in that they're already making that dive and
Should be able to get some out of this good cast bounces though catching the two supports the own snaking
Trouble Theo's gonna get healed up by the cord embrace. Well, he's taking heavy hits from the tower
Sumel gets the kill.
Alright, they get the one for what?
Yeah, look to enable him.
Nice silences from Sumel.
Probably pretty dead.
Chira's going to be able to turn his attention back over the wall
as the Grimm stroke hit the double.
Sumel's going to jump forward.
Look at the saxa.
Mike cost him his life.
With Mike, Chira is going to get all three kills there.
Uh-oh.
They respond pretty accordingly too.
They do get the coil.
They tip you almost immediately,
but Chira just a bit too strong.
The raindrop coming into play.
absolutely absorbing two or three different spells and just a bit of a
misplay the undefined somehow trying to jump back in to look for a support
kill that he couldn't get gives up his life after making such good little
plays from him to dancing around the silence surviving that extra bit to
does ended up costing his life after he goes for that play and now Chira is
her dangerous moments where he can't run the show which is feeling that pressure
he's backing away from the bottom lane the fact that Amar is playing this far
forward. Maybe tell us that this night stalker is doing this, but now what's
to say to attempt to help? At least stop.
Kiergine getting any more kills for now. So applying a lot of pressure here. Can
keep himself healed up to just uses that midnight feast. This isn't making space
for a mark to be able to push forward here. Gets the neutral item as well, so
he's got that extra heal coming in for this Huskar. And so far looking at the
lane, he's doing quite good. It's only 300 behind the windranger.
Jira, trying to forget it.
He's going to get back in, put the dives down bottom,
as they might have the chance to get the boat for them.
They get the brambles into the pit.
Wait, Sox is six! Oh, God.
Getting that extra XP from the mid lane.
The fact that he's six before Witseven is.
The Vice come down here, but I'm not sure he can do much here.
He's on his own.
That is quite a sequence here from Jira.
He just killed three heroes mid, walks bottom, kills two.
Divy?
We'll try for Saxa.
In the mid, they do manage to dive and kill Malady.
Bottom leg, Divy gets the kill.
But Amar is going to get the trade.
And then Deity might have just fed away his life to the Hustle.
Oh! Okay!
And get the kill as well.
So Divy at least has to bring both of them down before he goes down.
He takes that all down.
Hey, he'll take that.
Nice put- Ah, he's snaking, coming in clutch with the splinter blast.
I think it wouldn't have happened otherwise.
Eight to eight.
So making the trades at least here.
least here but which again he is struggling in terms of gold and comparison to these others
and Watson set up for success to get that crazy farm we know how hard this you know farms if
he's been given this type of lane yeah I mean that's the thing right you're just gonna hit sort of
this timing where you I just could be able to farm much quicker as the IRA as opposed to the
windranger he just we can also relocate in at any moment to to get involved in multiple different
ways the pressure is coming right now for LGD and Cherie just hopping down the map with the team
this night stalker taking over
sure sometimes when he plays the specialty heroes of course this one into
the pocket see why they wanted it he is driving right now
these days probably the is it the best night stalker mid in the game yeah he's
not so right now
not many others are playing this at all yeah
i think nico was one of the other ones that did like to watch it but he just
hasn't found an opportunity to be able to play it it's rare that you do find
like a numbers park
just doesn't happen anymore nowadays so
soon as he's keeping up with the network
but the pressure applied on these side lanes is what's the big deal
she divide out this point he is backed up the jungle which he needs to be
hugging staking
and they're going to look to make their own move so trying to punish the
efficiency of watson
rather than playing their own lane
now she's delting out of it which is going to head back down
she's not going to make it there
gonna try and go
it's a melee gandit
We're snaking Atheo here to help out. We'll stop the dive, keep some mails safe.
They have to be there for Sumail to protect them.
We're trying to chase on, but difficult to get a grab on to any of the Andex.
The good response is from the supports at the least. We are seeing them making these nice moves to match.
Don't let Shira get advantage of this puck.
So even though we did Shira, he got a triple kill, like triple kill into double kill, we stung Sumail.
Yeah, still pretty much ahead of him on the network even applying his own pressure into the mid tower now with the same damage
Deon divide look at the wraparound they brought all five which is even turned up
Perhaps some wasted time for him
Yeah, because Watson is just gonna be able to be that much more efficient in these moments
damage with that one. He's got
the LCS. He'll be alright some
out, but easily able to push him
back there, Malady. Usually you're not
threatened by a witch doctor as
fuck you. That was actually pretty
huge by Malady, able to push them
completely off the tower. They saved the tower with that.
And as you said, there was a large amount of him coming
towards the mid right, meanwhile on Yanbex
and Ma, he's happily farming in the triangle
and Watson just continuing to
enjoy life up on the top lane
very safely. And although you're not
They're used to playing vs. Night Stalkers so much, right?
You have to take advantage of these daytime moments.
That's why they are trying to apply that pressure onto the mid so much, because right now, no
darkness, no nighttime, there's no dark ascension, I should say.
There was a smart there with the brown balls, so it should be fine here, Witz.
He's only level 7, Watson's 10 and a half.
Similar things to what we saw in the last game, where Watson just not just super far
ahead on the gold, also with that experience that allows him to farm damage quicker.
Halfway toward agonims too.
That timing is going to be super dangerous for them.
Because the damage at some point, that's something I'm really concerned about for LGD.
Yes, early game their magic is good, it's just the heals and the sustain is going to
head up quickly.
And Io tethered up with the Night Stalker with the Huskone who's now gotten his arm
blade at a pretty okay timing.
Let's see where that damage is going to come from, since Wittz just continues to get shut
down.
Might even get his time.
There is a Dark Ascension.
He is caught.
Might have missed the ground balls last time, but he won't miss them this time.
Almost can get him alone.
This is looking real hard for Wittz to play.
And he's the hero that they need to be able to address.
Honestly, both the IO and the Huskar in a way.
is all that physical damage.
Lucette, Sumel though. Keeping that farm going, the witchblade, he's gonna have to be that
mid-game carry for the team to get wits back into things.
Playing into the Night Stalker, he has to be so careful. You're racing, he's queuing
up four staff.
We're gonna bring in the numbers top.
Get a good set up, you'll call my big burst onto the bone for them.
That was a beauty. I think the neutral creep netted him too. So kind of setting that up for the team. That was perfect
Just play around 2 mil. It's got to be the name of the game. Give him all the buffs
Give him the croak throw the inkswalls onto him
He is the one for that early game if he can get to the he's pretty close to if he can get to the four stuff
Then he can actually distance himself from the night stalker in some of these situations, too
And it will be pretty refreshing to see right. It's been a while
We've seen a puck kind of carry a game.
Yeah.
Just not seeing a lot of them.
And when we have done it, it's sort of being reminded why we haven't been seeing a lot of them.
But here in this one, Samail looking pretty hot.
As long as he knows where Night Stalker is, he should be pretty free in the game.
There's just no, not really these disables that can come out from the side of the index.
Sure, Willow kind of in a way, but those are pretty disjointable in most situations as a puck.
11 to 10.
What?
What camp did he die to?
Pine cones, wait.
There we go.
Happens to the best of us.
That's a pretty big deal.
She's right now also getting chased out.
Oh, I like this a lot.
Deviant.
This pivot.
Going for Vessel this game.
So I was concerned about damage.
This is really cool from a match because I'm worried about the damages of all the heels
But this castle might just be able to allow them to bypass all that
Crust down pod allows them to set up the angle for the shackle shot
It's still gonna fair off
The reload coming in
Backup's actually coming in so Wits he's got to run away
I'm being able to kill Wits though, he's fine
Can they kill Watson in the five seconds?
Yeah, he's gonna be alright
This is really cool
I don't think I've seen anybody do this on a lardo
Go for the vessels to play versus the IO versus the Oscar you're playing versus a stand draft
There's a cool pivot
And I think most situations we'd see them go like the usual build and then go for an eventual
I'm asked see we've got the replay to see what happened and that was a long range attack there it was
He won't be happy for living this for self there for making that blunder
No sir.
Top to buy, I think you've been off more than you this time.
Walking up the high ground into the mallardict.
Well they might lose two, they might actually lose three.
Sumel's got the Flores.
Oh, well that went down hell pretty fast.
Oh, that was a dreadful sequence.
Well, a bit too over his Alice there on the Largo.
Alright, they get the kill bottom.
But it's what's getting out.
Ah, there he is.
So that's four heroes dead off and down the map.
Wow, that was cool, but that happened very fast.
That, I mean, yeah, because up until that point, it really kind of felt like LGD were
kind of doing some good moves.
Making some nice plays and then bam, suddenly like that, mistakes up and down the map.
And not a team that you want to do those type of mistakes.
You got to play pretty well.
Not.
Universe is Yandex.
Watson, that is the agonims now done pre-level 15.
Did mention it yesterday.
There is some slight nerfs.
10% on the 15th talent that did come out there toward that agonims nerf,
but he's now going as far.
All right.
absurdly fast
And cheer up now the blinkbangers done so for Sumail actually for everybody if the game's gotten a lot harder for them
Since he's got the way to just jump into the back lines
They have to be ready for the move
That's the eyes on the supports to be able to do that here
Theo is I'm curious about this
I know it's the build and a lot of situations when you are playing the Grimstroke, but he's got the agon was cued
it doesn't even feel like that creative an axe game so wondering if he's gonna
change that out maybe go for four stabs bloomers maybe something to assist the
team because I just I look at this is not look like a good axe game on the
portraits it's just a nice talker right yeah but that is like I can't argue with
Alan it's usually to natural that you want this build for you
so now try saving but they cannot get him out in time here they nearly maybe
had some sort of play with the curse but didn't come soon enough for some male dead again.
He needs the assistance of the supports with him at all times. I mean they can really distance
him. When you're sort of playing into this matchup obviously he's got the force over the hurricane
pike. Is it rough enough that you do have to consider BKB as puck? Yeah in some situation.
It can get there. If you're playing versus zero stuns essentially and only the night
sucker stuns and you're forced to go BKB that feels horrible so he's not going to want to do that.
Just like you're a hook, I really do think that the team should be able to save you.
Four staff across the board. Yeah, at least that's what I wanted to say.
How many have we got on them? They're not going to, they're either killing themselves.
I'll have to see if they do end up committing this. Maybe, maybe someone's going to tell them.
It's going to be like, boys, buy me a four staff.
Because the other one right is you do the A on disc.
Honestly, they can even get away with four four staffs.
It is that four staff thing. It is, it really is.
Because you can get yourself away from this.
I also just kept losing money on this Grim 2.
He lost like, I think he's lost like 500 gold from dying.
I mean, imagine he's going to change.
He's probably not going to go over the axe, right?
I really hope not personally, but...
Momentum being gained for Yandex, I guess.
It certainly is.
And we've seen time and time again what happens when they get that sort of momentum.
They... they win the game.
Yes, indeed.
15 hit for Watson.
Still three level advantage over his opposing core.
Soxa is the same level as a lot of these cores. They want to point that out
So besides, you know, that middle play that happened when he got the extra pxp in the bottom
He is he's gonna be quite a nuisance on this willow
She was a blink up
Snaking will be able to juke into the Roche pit. They did not see it
Pretty hot there
Do they have the distiller they do so they didn't even get to throw it on to embarrass Soxa
Yeah, they're not even buying Distiller versus Night Stalker. That's the other thing too.
Oh, someone's going to be building it. No one's buying it on LGD.
Oh, is it Night Stalker one of the top ones to buy it again?
It is. The literal top one to buy it, so.
Oh.
It's been interesting to see that.
Okay.
Snaking's going to just be going for drums at the blink, which makes sense.
He is going to, he is going for staff, so I'm fine with that.
But yeah, no one's going to Distiller versus NS.
Illegal.
Eagle!
For those who don't know, of course, you get shared vision, so yeah, when you play around
NS, all the enemies jump flying up, you have a bubble.
Yeah, you see his ulti.
You see everything.
But yeah, I'm glad Theo at least, he buys the staff, he is pivoting, going for the four
staff as we were mentioning, if you want it.
But during all this downtime, right, look at the gold leaf.
After they get that four kill sequence, jumping up to 4k, just the pace of this IO farms,
and just so easy for him to get involved every time.
He's got Relo up.
That was very sneaky.
That didn't quite catch, they came jumping into the pit.
So Mel go pike, so the four step wasn't a knife for him, now he wants to really distance himself, so push the NS away.
I guess that's going to be the concept for him this time around.
Yeah, I don't think he's trying to go greedy.
his team. Still got the big build up with the Parasma and obviously classic one you normally get
on the puck eventually just by the ancestry and you rely on that and your team to sort of get
you away from these plays from Tira. Right when you look at it he's got lick already built in to
say if he's got some sustain that can be built in too from like the white one. Yeah then the team
should be able to bail out. He should be speaking of Sumail, nice dodge. He'll find an easy one on Soxer.
Do I have to use the coil?
He's not dead yet!
Oh, they finally get him!
Whits?
Has to be good scan. Whoever did that one is going to protect Whits' life.
Doesn't mean they'll have to sacrifice their wisdom though, but keeping Whits alive is all important at this point because he is starting to make that recovery.
Mjolnir's done. BKB is going to be the key one to look at for him to protect him.
Watson though, just a full item ahead essentially, BKB's already down for him.
5.
Stren on Stiflite.
This is going to be useful for Staking, I'll hold him back to buy getting Maladicted and Death Warded.
There'll be quite a bit of damage onto him.
Should be able to heal it off.
Pretty easily there, with the dive forward, cheering out at this point.
He wants more.
Link is up.
Which is the Maladictor considering same thing, he can get something in return.
And lead him for Maladie, they'll get the Witch Doctor.
Alright, let's see if they bail them out.
They actually took the Night Stalker out with him, so I didn't want to look for the fight afterwards.
Amar is also quite farmed. He really did die to a pine cone. Has his BKB finished up already at this point.
The tri-scaling is coming in and divide. He's pivoting with his build a lot here.
So feeling like he needs a BKB versus the Night Stalker as well.
As he said, not using the thing you see on a Largo at this point.
This is heads up. It's daytime. Dark Ascension was used.
I mean I did they get away with this I mean it's an attempt they're trying to use their timings
But it's not the easiest one to just go for person this
Very risky
I mean at the least I don't think they're gonna be able to commit for this
They'll probably have to fall back maybe if they get a kill first they're gonna try for that with the smoke out GD
60 seconds till ascension so Chira would be a pretty prime pick if they can't go for here
So you can find who they don't have curse see a mar
He's so forward.
Good try.
They're trying to lead him, but Amar's ready to fight back.
Give it to VKB.
They're going to be in the middle of the boat.
They're catching some mail.
Catching snaking.
As they're both dead, DeVy having a run with the VKB.
They broke their positioning.
And they're going to find Wittz, split from the rest of them, making the jump over towards
him in the mid.
Amar closes the gap.
Wittz will slowly but surely fall as well.
Three dead on LGD, and now the space is there for Amar to head into the pit and take that
ages for himself. Perhaps some desperation they're just like guys there's no
night time right there's no dark ascension we can't chase for a day
actually just stacked with the puck and the wyvern I think they both get hit by
fast hand melodic and then from a full fear I think you landed a three or four
minute fear there. A marge is walking he's like alright guys got some information for you.
Say it again here. Now watch your sacks with the side ready for the fight that kicks off.
Look at the two of them on the top. Yeah against the two key targets here getting the
Wiven in the park completely puts a stop to any chance of a team fight that
LGD would want to find. This guy's just so good at picking, choosing their battles
when they get their item timings as well too. Alright, let's go ahead.
What do you fuck that? That's rough. That's rough. That's rough. And he said that in minute one.
I know.
Oh, come on.
Yes.
Well, you hurt the vibes.
Not great vibes.
No.
That's not great.
And to be fair, I feel like we'll be able to take in the other days.
He's normally pretty good at keeping the vibe up.
Sometimes you've got to be a little honest, right?
It's probably exactly that.
Guys, we have to fight.
They're going to come in and pull me,
walk into high ground,
and you all get caught in the worst,
pretty much the worst way possible.
That's a tough position.
And you can only imagine that.
Probably quite a few similar words have been said about that when it's come to these teams against Yandex in this tournament
It's felt quite impossible quite a lot of the time. Cheers Nightstalkers just
He's done this too many times
I feel like when he gets to play this hero when he finds the perfect game for it
It really does feel like the perfect game for it 9-1 and 7
He is running the show and that's
Maybe even underselling it that's staking in the base. Yeah
getting pretty out of hand after this and the pressure is only gonna increase
because now it's nighttime I was almost 20 so the relocate talent becomes 30
seconds or something or 40 seconds so there's just the space is gonna continue
to be very limited and even though I did see divide pivot I haven't even seen him
get to use vessel none of it's even mattered really they already have all
They all BKBs by the time they even made the play to go for that move with the two.
Yeah, it's just the farm pace.
I'm just having to hire a house.
I imagine that's kind of pretty the one thing.
I mean, what do you think in particular snaking was looking at and having that sort of feeling in that moment?
Is he looking at the eyes farm?
What was the thing that sort of jumps out and makes you feel like indeed this game's over?
It's just you walking into fight and you can't even fight versus no nighttime.
You literally just walk in and you get caught with your fucking your wider on front lines.
And you're scaling at this point, right?
It's pretty single target heavy, and fuck, the hero just doesn't scale the same way it
used to.
That's broke the chair.
And buffbox as well too, we see solo crest not being picked up for malady, so continuing
to look to enable things for the night stalker, the IO.
Oh no, I was mentioning it to you in the green room too, this IO here is just, after I saw
I kind of forgot about it for some times in the core role. It's just broken. It is insane how much it does so much farm so much heal
That's not so tannic last night playing it in the pops like multiple times as well too, so
That definitely feels feels like one of those heroes that if you carry it's not playing it
Maybe it's time to start getting the games in it looks very good one. You know what you're doing on this hero and
Jaffix have showed us both in the same plate and in the mid late
Focus fire on Techira.
Somehow trying to make the jump in.
He attacks to blind the brambles.
Considering diving here, Yandex.
They're so mobile and so healthy.
Even though they get soulbound, it does nothing.
It's like they're soulbound and they're just like,
oh, alright, whatever.
We just run next to each other at 550 movement speed.
It doesn't matter.
Gem now picked up for Yandex.
Lamar, still with Aegis.
He's just fine.
And this next item, this is also the extra one for the catch, right?
Puck, the game continues to get harder and harder for him.
Amar, Aghanim's is done. So extra forms of catch.
It feels like the game's just getting harder and harder for them.
Now one hard hit from Yandex away.
Closing up this game and the series, it feels like...
Chira, breaks the smoke instantly.
Didn't break all of them, but broke two of them knows where their positioning is though the scan comes out afterwards
Fantastic macro movements by them this game and a lot of it around Chira
Just tough to see where they go at this point with their limited damage, limited control
now too versus these heroes. Still night time for a minute and a half to. Chira.
Right on to Sumail.
Gonna find him. He gets Sumail away. The brambles holding him close. He'll be able to jump away.
Snape, let's try with the curse, but it's only on us and I'm not able to get the push
with the Hurricane Pike Tate snaking out.
Roses tip out his way.
I'm all feeling pretty good.
Yeah, just hard game for them.
Even the supports aren't able to get the connections.
We did see last time, you know, those Wyvern-3
Andex was doing a lot.
Snaze just not able to find the same connections.
You want to keep up with the fun here with something?
I'm up. He's doing the trick. Yeah, we're doing this the other day the nice little jump forward and hurricane pike tech to really drag them back
It is very abusive what you can do with it
Do they get the kill as well towards the width of the width will survive?
He's getting right through. I'm coming with a fly back to keep the other core alive a little longer
Chirat with the BQQ.
The bomb is TPing in.
He gives him an extra nuke before he leaves.
They got the Voodoo switcheroo.
Jump forward from the mark.
He's in onto the boi.
Can they do anything about the mark?
They can't.
The BQQ himself.
Wits trying to take him down with the bonkers fire.
But Amar just back in.
Amar will die.
He died.
But Wits is dead.
Can they clean up something more?
They try formalities to him out.
We'll get the two of them.
It's a double kill for Sylvester.
We'll get the two of them so double kill for some ale
Manages to push the undex back a little bit
They did have to use the biber from snaking for that play they did dive pretty far forward
They did finally get to get some there from some else and which he does get a kill
But also ends up dying himself at the end of it there
Amar doing a little trick play there as we were mentioning when you do get the life break with the hurricane pike view like it's like an axe
Call essentially to pull them out of the base. I think we've seen him do enough three times. I
I'll punish at the least though. They need something. And that will get loud. See if the Karazma finished up now for Sumail, he does.
Watson, not very healthy in that fight.
And something.
It's nothing here for LGD.
Can they pull that off another time? Maybe start to take away some of that huge lead that Yandex has had against them.
They did get the 15, I think it was, I don't even know if it was in this fight in particular, but they did get the 15 talent now for the Largo, so that actually helps when you are further, when you are behind and you do get this talent, it's about 1% croak of health max, health DPS, whatever, so throwing that at Sumail, the longer drawn out fights could actually be a little bit better, of course still very difficult, but small little things to point out, since he does have Pyrisma also as partisan spray, so his damage has gone up.
Watson, so pivoting with his build a little, he's just going hex, so they're like, alright,
you know what?
Xumel's going to be our problem, we're just going to have a hard lockdown for him, so
he does have that finished on the Iona too.
Xumel, maybe he does have to slot the BKB soon at this point, because they are going
to be getting close to these nullifiers too, so you don't want to get him out of this,
to the fire
anything up next in for wits
not quite
it's been a while for the day list
trying to get his
damage up for the next fight
it's a difficult game for him
difficult series
putting all the pressure onto him
You know, they picked this Huskar into it, you can see that Amar very confident to play versus it.
That's worked out quite nicely for him. Has died a few times for those deaths I've been in.
Bringing heroes down with him for the most part.
Usually when the Ios go this field too, they go to relocate Castellay.
I wonder maybe if he should change this because he has a Huskar. Probably not.
We'll have to see what Watson wants to do as he is approaching that 25.
Broch, one more minute.
So Witt should be at least able to get the smock ready, he'll have that finished for the next fight.
They need some mail to do so much in these though, in terms of control, giving info.
He's still is keeping up.
Very impressive to say when he is playing versus this Nightstalker still.
I say keeping up. He's ahead of the night stalker, of course, but the other ones.
How close to 15 talent on the Grim as well, too. Trying to, you know, these big damage amplifications that could help them a lot when they do get behind.
He's 13 now on Grimstroke, 14 on the Wyvern.
That Soulbind damage is nothing to laugh at when you aren't bothered.
They need every little bit at the moment here for this next fight.
Their team can't lead a shield during top.
And it's a pretty quick spawn.
Roche, 5 seconds.
They're gonna start it.
See how keen LGD is to look to contest.
Might die too fast.
fast. It's going to go down pretty quickly. Looks like they're not going to take the risk.
Unless they just do it with the Wife and Play maybe Snake can try some in. He has Blink
so maybe he just goes Yolo from the steal. Let's see. Malady's ready for him. Yes, the
job! But the hex is there. Not going to be able to make a Q play this time. There's
a Ma. Asley ages. And they'll be ready now to walk down one of the lanes. Look to the
the high ground here, Andex, around the edges, Oscar.
Chura was expecting someone to be over here too,
maybe thinking that they would go for his wisdom rune,
but not gonna be the case, so they're gonna go
for double wisdoms, and Andex will get those extra XP.
Very, they might wait for 25 on Watson before the push.
About to have it.
And I'm fooling the other guys,
they're not getting my attention.
Okay, I feel pretty unkillable here, Amal.
The ages, very likely they kill him twice.
And we go down there.
Theo, Malady might just catch him outside of the base.
He's going to be able to slide back.
Theo did get to buy his aggots.
I mean, we'll see how much of an effect he can have.
I'm glad he got the four-step in between. That's all I did want, so this time I'm okay.
Still not the greatest of axe games in particular, but
Watson 25 has been hit as I said when they do go this build they usually do go the cast of life
So he does end up having that one this talent's actually insane too the way that you can save people
But we saw it to you a couple times. It's just like oh instant save. It's like you hit a fraction of a second
Push coming in double catapults
So now does have the link ins now to protect their snapbacks
is
really doesn't want to go for that he can be mentioned
one of the old half of the list of
the high ground everybody alive to use this message of the
The Vi is getting...he's very close to having Kralis too, that would be pretty huge for
the next fight on the Larkin.
Come on.
The play again.
The dragon divide back into the brambles, into the hex, divide, he's dead!
That is so dirty, this hypebreak, fight play.
Not a lot you can do against it from the distance he can cast it off, and now Tiro Jr is in with
the BKB.
back off there because of the damage that was coming out from Swayln, snaking, can he find an angle,
I'll get that again, he does it again, completely controlling Divy, it's going to be a die back
on him out for 80, they do manage to kill Chira. Divy didn't even get to use BKB, Amar actually
just bullied him, the pike life break taught play into the hex back to back, that is just mean,
65 seconds no Largo. They need his buffs, they need the Croak on some health and the damage.
I'm just unable to kill Amai even the once.
That's dirty. Heart now picked up for him, fully regaining everything, they're not moving.
This is just as disgusting. That's for that point. Anyone who steps up has to be careful.
He's having a full in snagging from a distance.
And the hacks follow up again.
They're trying to get the shackle focus far onto Watson,
but again, they'll be able to taunt Wits away from focusing Watson.
Wits in trouble.
They'll take the Aegis out of a mark.
What can they do on round two, Samel?
Trying to jump for the back lines,
but the heels are keeping the two of them heeled up.
Not enough to save Malady.
Hecks his back up and onto Samel.
The curse, it's a good one.
It's a good one.
Snagging over to get the angle to drop it down onto Watson.
and then they kill off the iron.
Five minutes.
Amar's gonna try cleaning up.
He's gonna go for the TP out at the end of this
with the BKB and he'll get away to safety.
So again, it's a hold, it's a defense.
They got to use the two buybacks though
by Snakeings and Simeil's.
They keep the game going.
They keep it going though.
And Witt's ends up surviving during all of it too.
So it gets quite a bit of experience up to level 22.
Not too shabby, gets the data list.
It is a buyback though.
So Simeil, he's pushing the limits
with how much he can do on this hero.
does end up getting caught from the Hex, it ends up getting brought down, but they have
to use these buybacks to fight back.
But lots of gained Raxxs have been grabbed, big items being picked up on everybody on
the side of Yandex as well too.
Can they turn it into something else on the side of LGT?
They have to do something to protect each other versus this play.
This annoying play?
It's dragged out of your base by the Husker.
It's the fact that they have the Hex afterwards every time.
I think that was three times in a row that they did it almost perfectly in synchronization.
They did the life break directly afterwards with the hex and the target just dies before
they get any type of save.
Or BKB off.
But a hold.
Sumail now.
Getting timeless profit pendulum, perhaps also could protect him in the next one with
the lingering damage.
Which just needs more, right?
I feel like if he can get to the point where he's level 25, that's going to be the key
for them.
focus fires in the fights. He is getting closer and closer to it as I said, so six levels behind
his counterpart. There is a way for them to do it, it's going to probably be around that
talent. Just Sumail has to be so careful now for the next five minutes.
They must step outside there, half of the map, but LGD.
It is daytime for a moment here, the next five minutes or so. Of course, there is a sentient at the ready, but LGD trying to take advantage of that and the fact that they have this gem on Sumail to take out some of these wards.
I'm just gonna know that Samel is around.
Sox is on the hunt.
He is.
He's been able to fly Snake in.
Snake in down.
Samel, they're gonna try him for the jump forward, he's almost certainly gonna have
to retreat.
Samel has to play these next few moments perfect for them to hang on here.
As you said, if he dies, the game could just turn on its hand instantly.
get outside but again you ever see that IO reload as we see very hard to do so 25 for the huskar also
now has been grabbed at 22 life break damage it is insane i'm not this is going to do how much is
with all the amp as well too with the IO i actually have no idea how much damage that's going to end
of doing but it's going to be a lot yeah that's going to be pretty insane about burst 70 percent
hp yeah maybe even higher 75 another reload maybe just preventing them from getting outside even
more so. I think it was just sort of indeed on the off-chance that someone was farming those camps but
it's got like very little downtime right yeah 18 seconds or so with this build at the off-thrink
so it can just keep using it. Hey just all over the map. I think it's so hard to get out the base for
LGD. What neutral items does Watson get as well? He did get Catalyst if he wants to take it.
it. Does he want to pivot towards some right click style later? Does he take the catalyst
here? Likely the catalyst, we'll say. Yeah, it just takes the catalyst. Yeah, next, probably
gonna just wait for the rush. I could make a mistake, sir. There's the way that they
push, right? It's all about just like, they can just slow siege and there's no buyback
this time for LGD so even around that fight it's going to be very complicated for them to take it.
Just put the banner down put a mar on the front line and yeah as we've seen that front
line is very scary since he keeps his taunting people into him.
Do you have the crownless? So some extra heal reduction will be coming in.
Yeah if he can sort of survive in the front of the fights.
That's the kill. Can he survive because he can die 100 to 0 right away.
Yeah it's really not easy.
Yeah, they got to find a way to protect him if he does.
If anyone does get caught by the lightbreak, the initial type of play,
they probably just have to blink cursor something to stop it,
because they can't just lose a hero.
Cannot play this game 5v4 right now.
Around the pit, Rochanne back up.
Do they have a smoke?
I believe they do.
They'd like to go for the smoke fight.
And this time round, LGD could consider fighting.
They can the heels have ramped up though 20-tall for malady. He's got the 1% max heel voodoo restoration with IO and heart heroes
So eyes on the sustain see on the cliff
Crazy
It's on 4.
Holding them in position.
Heal's coming out though, keeping Yandex in a safe spot.
It's been a buyback from Tia.
Devae's going to try and run back in on this.
He's got his eyes set on Malady, but already
Amar's backing with the cap.
Hits to follow up.
Devae's out for 17.
Sumail doing his best to pick up the back line.
Nice tackle.
He's killed up the willow.
He's going to jump back up and watch Malady.
Once he's got his BKB at the ready, Sumail.
Can he kill off Malady?
It's close.
Couple more hits.
Comes in with the orb.
He should have him here.
And Sumail doing so much hurt.
He's kind of doing it here, Sumail.
He's giving them a bit of a chance.
What was that, four-man coil?
If I'm not mistaken there, jumps and cats pretty much everyone.
Look at the damage coming out from the two of them there.
Oh, they're doing it, getting Witz, though.
The reload comes at the player.
They get the hex.
They get the connection at the end of it all.
He doesn't have to buy back gold.
He's actually deprecating seconds there.
There's going to be a problem.
There's a clutch hang on there for it all.
But yeah, the reload just comes in.
It's so fast, the cooldown.
I mean, Sumail is doing a lot.
He is doing everything he can here on the puck, giving us one of the best puck games we've seen in a long time.
100%.
Is it going to be enough though to turn this game around?
Look at this, the heals are ridiculous, dude.
It's the IO paired up with these hearts with this voodoo.
The damage that they do is just completely counteracted.
And actually, you know what?
I ran in and stole like 5,000 healing as well with the...
Whatever, the Brite of Remusker, Troublos, whichever one you want to call it, the buff.
Another heart now.
They have high damage as we're seeing if they do connect us which is it's such absurd sustain
That's the mouse has to do so much
And we're seeing that with 30k healing coming out from Malady 25k healing coming through Watson
That's the carry by the way
Russia
Unlike me now that LGD can head over for this they don't have wits
They don't want to risk it. They don't have their buybacks either, right?
Somebody help you get caught. It is coming back up in about 40 seconds, but
not a place where he wants to contest.
7k gold on Amar.
What do you want to buy?
We are starting to see the pivots of items as they are approaching level 30s.
So Watson, MKB has now been queued up, so looking for that straight fight
versus the Windranger as well.
And Amar as you said he's thinking about what he wants to purchase. He's had to blink cute up for a while so
Can continue to do some pretty fancy plays with it relocate to top look at themselves a tormentor
And on top of now of having these hearts they have the cheese to from the roach they have the refresher shark up the blade
Oh, look at that!
Laking blade mails, these are actually good pickups.
I've actually been wanting to see people pick up Laking blade mails.
Alright, yeah, this could be the first blade mail you'll see picked up on a witch doctor.
Yep.
And on a witch doctor, I don't know about picking up on that one, but either way, whatever.
I do think there's a sense of regret in this laking.
It comes out to buy again!
He's been foul-staking, he's saving, he can't, because Chirichunia immediately identifies Nanking's position, gets on top of it.
The light break is 70% of HP almost. It's insane how much it's chunking him.
They just keep catching him on the front lines there.
He has a 1300 HP.
Well, that's whatever.
I'm a little exaggerated, but still insane how much he is popping him down.
I'll say a little bit of a pause here.
I do have buybacks at least on Devi and Snake King.
I do have the ult subcursors at the ready.
How close is Wich to 25?
still not quite there. He really needs those multiple focus fires in the fights it feels like.
Could be the potential last fight.
All these heals that come in this push the banner. Do they have it at the ready? I think they do.
Some mouse problems here. Yeah, they do. Okay, I'm always holding it.
it. All the lanes are pushing into now so it's pretty much perfect time for Yandex to
force forward here. Uh huh. It's Samel, he has to do so much work, keep that hook on
the run. Yeah, he has been doing in these fights. It's pretty crazy how much Samel is
kind of keeping the game alive for LGD. Can we get um, we got healing numbers, can we
get damage, maybe you just did it and I missed it, can you just get across the board damage
numbers again whenever we get a shot here because like you said I feel like
he's gonna make 60,000 plus damage it's gonna really build up yeah how much
the males doing but it's just the other the fact that they've healed like 70,000
yeah I mean look at that there which we saw and it was indeed the highest damage
I believe on the team yeah 47k damage in the game in fact so yeah so even
Witz's damage is pretty high it's just yeah how much they've been able to
sustain through it that was less than I was just you're sorting out the mouse
Yeah, he said his was also having some issues, so
So if this is what he was doing with his mouse having issues now he's fixed it my goodness good luck yandex
And I Andy first time you see the blade mail on the witch doctor
He's going hard as well by the way, you know, it's just build the sustain tank up
Cheer us nullifier basher very dangerous for the sports
That's the first buyback from Dubai.
Come on.
Just gonna get the catch on a witch, dragging him back.
They get the extra 4, bit of the gravel, bit of the fear.
Wits in trouble.
I'm all moving up to the bird.
Exposed, not enough to kill Wits though.
Wits survives.
This isn't such an OP combo.
My God, the way he's executing it time and time again.
Almost just kills the winranger at the start of things.
Push the 2 buybacks here from LGD.
The healing numbers just continuing to go crazy here.
But most of the hero healing is still on me, yeah.
Watson on his carry, I don't know what to do with that.
They're gonna curse it off.
Watson taking quite a bit of damage.
But up there for Samal, they're gonna be able to bring down Watson.
Samal, what more can he do?
He's gonna be able to slide to the side.
Junior trying to get in on top of Samal.
Is there anything to bail him out of this?
There is not. Samal's gone.
Samal's gonna have to buy back and return a medium.
to the game. The market here try and focus the barracks. LGD chasing him outside of the base.
He had the coil for some out of the tournament, but the relocates there. It's gonna take him out.
What a shackle. Wits coming in right afterwards. They did line up pretty much perfectly from it
afterwards after the curse, so it does get the connection to bring them down. Watson with the
buyback, jumping in forward to assist his team. Pretty big deal that they're able to at least
force that and not... That is a bit of a risky buyback right there. If Watson dies again,
there is a serious chance that LGD could do some damage. Which is about their 25 too. He's gonna
have that multiple focus start. They are getting to the point where the fights are having some
easier ways to approach even versus this insane healing, as we do see. 26,000 healing, 25,000
damage done, but it is enough to bypass because of how hard the hits come out.
And for Yandex now, maybe, right, we give a little more respect to them when you don't
stack like that, because they did get caught perfectly from the double shackle after the
curse.
Rest of the thing they're able to do this at this deficit.
Come on, Witch, go get that 25.
Creeps are coming in bottom.
He just doesn't want to step out alone because of this IO plus Huskar as we've seen.
many times if they can just delete a target so has to play it careful to get
that XP because if he does show even for a second
Night Stalker jumps and instant reload comes out
and you see the cheera is on the hunt on the prowl for him
a pistol about to be finished up for this night stalker as well too so extra
disables
see how hesitant Yandex is to push though with you with Watson with this
buyback being used. Yeah, because they might just play it that safe. They might, even though
Sumail used his, right, they might just kind of chill back. Speaking of Sumail, he's decided
it's time now. Time to get the BKB as the final item. I like game BKB, can go pretty hard. Yeah,
they definitely can. I'm seeing Sumail, what are you doing enough damage if he can indeed just
have no threat of dying to sort of cheer Junio getting on top of him. Okay, they might not
to close it with the DD. Okay, and the epicelon here. Just keep watching in a more safe position.
If they get a good jump, it will be game over. If they catch Sumail pretty much, right? If Sumail
dies, the game does this kind of hit because he's done so much for the team.
I'm already the rep rounds coming in. Cheers, Juni and Saxe, trying to find the angle onto Sumail.
They're gonna see him because his pop is gonna be able to get the phase shift off up on the high
the high ground, feel the core of Stanky out, take that out.
Neither of the supports with the Pyvaks left to their availability.
He's just damage on to Malady.
He's... you get burst slow.
Sheer is hit on to Defy, the bash back in.
Defy, he's out as well.
Perfect timing to get that bash.
It's just down to Samerlin with to try and hold it, two versus four.
As they'll head back to the fountain, the space is there for Yandex to clean up the mid-racks.
The supports just can't play. Both Sumel and Dio walk up and just get caught because of some crazy far jump from the Night Stalker into the back.
They've done a fair bit of work at this deficit, but now the final racks is being clamped.
And catch. And it's on the cheek to relocate, straight on top of Wits.
He has got Vi back.
Okay.
So they might play on for one final fight.
Flips?
I'm on the buyback.
Might just get caught again though, has to be very quick with the BKB.
So now...
It's a fortification.
Perhaps buying time for the team to come back into play.
We can fight this.
So now trying to keep it in confidence but...
Unfortunately for them, it's game over, Gigi is called.
Yandex, taking another series in 2-0.
LG, they're giving it a good fight.
Last thing, 52 minutes here in game 2 against Yandex.
That's not something that a lot of teams can claim here at Black Hills.
It's something...
Schumann played like a beast.
He really did.
I have to give him all the credit in the world.
Had a pocket for some nice doctors.
Sure, there's some lack of decimals elsewhere,
but the fact that he was able to keep this game going to this point
was pretty much all him.
That was actually huge, but Yandex,
the game plan from them breaking records maybe on healing. I think they had like 150,000 healing who
even knows at the end of this game. Crazy plays. Crazy draft. Absolutely. Another one for Yandex
here today. LGD tried their best, but not enough to stop Yandex. Get in the 2-0.
I think that might have been one of the longest games that Yandex had to play this Velakia,
so credit to LGD for making that happen, but it does not change the result that Yandex is a once
again a victor is winning every single series here so far for the lack of season nine and they
have now secured a spot in the grand finals we'll see if lgd makes it back up there but for now
they're in the lower bracket a lot to break down with this game because it was as long as it was
and overall i mean it did start i mean it started it was a long time ago by now but it started with
lgd getting two kills right off the bat and it kind of looked like they were on the right track for
Yeah, I got to give a lot of credit to LGD. I wasn't really a fan of their draft. I knew that they had to play a very difficult game
I think the Vi, he understood what he needed to do in the early game on the Largo
He was making so many rotations where normally people sit back by staying high in that kind of AFK
He was buying vessel, he was running round going BKB
Eventually that did slip up. He had the top def where he kind of was buying himself in the river
Can I do this one? This one as well or fight? Yeah, this overall fight
But I think the logic of LGD in the first 15 it was
it was kind of cool like to play like you did against the heroes of Yandex it was pretty
cool but eventually Yandex is like Blast we have the healing we have the scaling we have
all this stuff we're going to shut you down yeah I think LG faltered again like around
this minute 20 mark where it's just Yandex are so clean overall I think it was like their
execution and it's something that is it's getting repeated every time they play because
they are just they're better than their opponents in this tournament so far no one has broken
them yet when it comes, I think, to the gameplay or the drafting, like words, I think you either
need to somehow break them in teamfighting later or you need to break Amar and Delain.
I don't know if you can do both, I think that's being greedy, but so far I haven't really seen
one or the other thing happen. And yeah, to talk about the Huskar, like Amar on, you know,
with the Aghanim and the Pyke, it is an interaction that I think it should get changed. It's also
way better because of the level 20 and 25 talent. 20 talent is cooldown, 25 adds so much damage to
his age people from the life raid. So yeah, because Witze apparently seems like he was not
aware of this tech, but this tech was used FTI as well. It was, it was some very cool tech that
we got to see there and I think for LGD, the fact that they were playing such an aggressive early game,
I think they got a bit carried away thinking the game was more even than it was, like Theo
Loko had an agony with Q'd up, but he was like mana boots out in quick buy, like he wasn't thinking
of distiller, he wasn't even a four star, Snakey also went for a drum, which I know he used to buy
a lot of falcons when they get a little bit of a early game fight going hit by a casual
drum and then he gets with the next Scythe right in this game and I feel like I needed
to see just some viability on the support here like a ghost on the vibe and the force
on the on the Grim like just you had the early game but then the mid game Chiro Junior was
like thank you very much supports but I would just if you I see you you are dead yeah and
that's why Staking also said at some point you know guys let's go AFK farm yes he did say the
the word farm. We have thought because that's what the game needed at the time and we did see
LCD taking a bit of a step back and they were able to drag it out for a very long time but at the
end of the day Yandex is victorious and we can we can talk about every single player delivering on
all five of their heroes but we are choosing only one MVP and it's not the first time we've given
it to this gentleman. It's Shiro Junior, Kezu on his night stalker. He's got you know his special
type of heroes. I think he is also one of the players that has improved the most, you know,
throughout like the maybe last one and a half years. I think he played really well. I saw,
I love the Threads into drums. I think the sort of people who still go Facebooks. I think the
Threads drums allows you to be fast. It has a good build up. You can also be somewhat of a hero in
the daytime, because at mini 20, like LGD, the move they made where they blundered, it was into
a daytime Nightstalker without ult, but they're still ready and give themselves the chance to
take the fight. They're just, I think you're actually drafting away with their willing to pick
a really hard counter to another hero to make the game difficult. Like we had to
vibrant the last dinner from Amar. We're seeing the return of Night Skulker into a puck which
I think four months ago would be like, oh, you can't play puck. There's a Night Skulker,
but no one's done it and boom, it's back again at this event. So Yandex, they are ready to
counter pick in a way in which your entire game is an uphill battle. Yeah, where yesterday we saw
the IOB shifted mid. We saw this time around space for the Night Skulker as IOA shifted
into the hands of Watson. And speaking of Watson, he is the one right now,
sending by with nomad for his winners interview thank you shiva yeah I mean
firstly huge congratulations you made into the grand finals how are you
feeling after that win good I want to sleep you want to sleep all right we'll
make it quick then but I mean was that not you know 52-minute game pretty
pretty exciting no no that was boring everyone was hitting creeps but I
wanted to fight so that's boring for me I see I see all right so you want to go
kill you want to go fight and then everybody else cheer and the marriage is
like no we're farming yeah it's like day nice talk of no we don't fight until
night my house got a hit creeps so yeah I couldn't just go alone well that's a
shame but at least you got the win in the end that's really important thing I
mean how do you find playing as I hear obviously it did receive some nerfs but
you still think it's good I mean you won twice with it now on your team yeah I
think it's still very very strong hero and they played it on CI it's now it's
only like minus 10% damage I think on spirits talent I think it's fine so it's good hero.
Fair enough I mean yeah it's got a lot of really OP talents the 25 when you're making great usage
off with the hex I want to ask though is there any situation where you take the other talent and go
for the right click attack damage? Yeah actually actually played only like this build on TI because
Because I didn't like this magic build and you just healing.
On TI I was like the only core.
Now I can just use the rammar, he will just keep.
He will just hit, he certainly did that.
I mean, how do you feel playing alongside Amar now, having played against him a lot,
now you're playing with him, what's he like and how's he fitting into the team?
I like that he's very confident in his heroes.
He also trusts him, he is a tie-winner, he is playing unreal good, because I lane against him like all my life, and it's good to have Amar.
Do you enjoy watching the other safe laners suffer like how you used to suffer?
Okay, first we didn't suffer against Omar. I mean, I teach him how to lane and
Yeah, it's good to see that enemies are not getting to me because they are getting
Yeah
Absolutely, they are indeed by all of you. It is of course a tremendous team effort from you guys
All right. Last one you are going through to this grand finals. So who do you expect?
Who do you want to face in those grand finals?
Think from all our games on this tournament, LGD was playing better than others, so I think
it will be LGD again. Back to LGD. Okay, that's going to be very exciting. Back to
speaking best is Amar and of course yourself in that grand finals. I'm really looking forward
to seeing it. Thank you so much for talking to me and good luck tomorrow in the final
much up. Thank you. Yeah, we'll see if that happens because there's two more teams that
have a say to that and actually maybe actually only one team because tomorrow when LDD is
playing there's only three teams remaining. Of course, it's Yandex sitting in the Grand
Finals. Of course, it is LGD sitting in those lower bracket finals. But who will LGD face?
going to be either Extreme Gaming or Na'Vi. We'll find out who it is after a break.
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one more series coming your way today and it's an elimination on the line extreme gaming
going up against Navi and luckily for extreme gaming every single series today so far has
been a 2-0 and that means extreme gaming didn't have to wait too long because the stream
game was playing at the very early start of the day against Gamer Legion and
guess what they did quite well. They look like they could be ready for this one.
I would say so. I think both teams you know both Na'Viin actually should be
pretty you know feeling good going into this matchup. They had like the
preparation for today. They played well in this series like you said they didn't
have to wait too long. I think confidence and a good game from both sides is what
I expect. I think it's actually terrible. I think when you play the first series you
want to have a longer break before the fourth one because you can actually take a nap and reset yourself.
So maybe they got started having a nap. I don't think about to go to sleep. He's the one guy that was not I can say
And then not say
No, they're like rushed in there. They're panicking and no, they'll be fine. They're very good
Yeah, nothing like a good, you know rinse of the face
Can't face watch of course
Thank you very original
Let's focus on
extreme gaming because this is a team that of course did not really deliver at TI and we
want to see this region and this team do better and they did make changes and it has looked better.
This team is finding their groove. How would you describe their their type of game that they're
playing right now? Kazoo, how would you feel like? Where do you feel like this improvement comes from?
I think it comes from a lot of the aggression I think from the new kids in the team. You know,
like JinQ and XM obviously they've played in the team before. They're very good at like taking
I think it's a lot of the
players that are playing
early aggression. I think
zeal as well. I think it's I
would look a lot of their two,
three and four. They're making
space for army on the carry. I
think Boboca is flooding in
pretty well on the five. It's
not an easy soft to go from
four to five, but. I think
it's the early aggression for
me. I just enjoy the fact that
XG is still like an honest team
and how they play. I mean, most
XG rusted wars have that
honesty to say they want to
outplay you in a team fight.
They want to have some like
traditional scaling. They
wouldn't offline to initiate.
They want their support through
like everything just feels like
good old fashioned. And then
next was like, we'll beat you in the
later, just win the game. You know,
it's like, it is really cool to see
a team like XG make it further in
the tournaments because we are seeing
the longer games, what Dota can be
like once you break into the kind of
the 40, 50 minute mark.
Yeah. And even though the team
changed a little bit, there's also
still similarities and especially
maybe when you think about that
play style and these two teams, they
are no stranger to play against each
other.
I think XG just needs to be very
careful against Na'Vi. These are the
2026 results of these two
have been to the last two
times, I mean, you know, you
have to do organizations and
a lovely the volatility of
their play. You don't know
what they're going to do. The
type of aggression they're
going to bring, maybe even
not be themselves. Don't know
how they're going to perform
when you are a team like
XG that wants to get to mid to
late game. That's not be the
volatility. The And it's
the pressure, the speed that
is traditionally the way to
beat this game. Yeah And on
the side of not be unknown. I
know because he ever the whole
week. I feel like you've been
highlighting not be in this
You gotta believe in this team because you know that they're either going to be amazing or that they can really bomb out.
But this team, I think in this type, you're staying together, you're working through your online games all the time and you believe in each other.
Because again, these players are incredibly young.
Like, eventually it should definitely click and at the same time too, I like the heroes that they play.
You know, Riddies was one of the first guys in this tournament to bring in the Witch Doctor.
Days on his tusk looks incredibly good.
I'm pretty sure Niku is the only guy who played mid-Magnus in this tournament.
The same can be said for God, the juice on the void and PMA on the beast master.
So they all have their own like little flair, they're individually skilled, they're young,
like they have everything you would want your roster to have.
And for Na'Vi as well, like across this roster, again, Na'Vi junior to Na'Vi,
they've been on the cusp of success a couple of times, but never able to get that right.
They got that second place in the Blast Slam.
Again, it was like a single limb golden bracket where it was kind of easier, you could say,
to get to a higher position.
But then they had that fourth place in 2024 in the clay vision, it's no worry.
this for them is one of their best placements they've had at a land for this roster. If they
are to win this series, getting a third place is like for a double and limb format, it will be
their best placement as a team, as a kind of organization still chasing the success of the
many years of the past. Yeah, and we are going to find out if they can continue that run or if it
will be extreme gaming who gets a leg up here in this best of three series as we are in the draft
of game one with Navi on the dire side, extreme on the radiant side, first big go on the way of
Navi and Extreme therefore having to ban out some specialist heroes coming out for Navi frequently
and brought them a lot of success there as well. We even had the First Faith Slark leading Extreme,
they have to then ban out the Ember Spirit First Faith and of course the Witch Doctor Invoker and
the Kez were the other ones I highlighted there. I kind of like this in the idea of I think Navi
are probably prepared for the fact that they will get their hands on Lone Druid and these other heroes
but it's a bit obvious to take it straight away. So I kind of, I'm intrigued to know where the
brewmaster will go, but again, Lundred not respected at the moment in bands, but also not rushing
towards it. And I think also, like by them just banning Slark on their last ban, at first it's
you're kind of forcing out this Ember ban, unless you're, you know, expecting that XG have like
a new pick on their ninth position to really counter it. But you have both offlaners, I think
already like getting, you know, their hands on, I would say some of their best heroes, but also
some of the better offlaners of the entire tournament. And then both offlaners also kind of cover
yourself against the carries, right? We just spoke about Lone Druid. Now Enigma's picked,
Navi don't want to pick Lone Druid because Enigma is the counter. And then for XG, these like ranged,
annoying scaling carries, the Tarred Blades, whatever, into Brewmaster, he'll dive you,
he'll chase you down in the early game. So yeah, I actually really enjoy the fact that we see two
offlaners. Also the Weaver Blades. It is an OG counter to Brewmaster, but at the
same time like this hero is he is incredibly hard to make work which is why you see that he's
got a zero all over the board but it is army you have to consider that the army is willing to go for
like out of meta i want to win my lane and we've is that hero and he has had the deepest hero pool
of all carries here and we're lucky at playing up until yesterday 10 unique heroes in a row
it's it's quite mad nice thing though when you look at his hero pool you can
attach that hero to his history of Dota it's not like he's forcing it it's like
oh yeah he's the morphing guy yeah he plays the drug he's not the drill guy
like we're not seeing obscure carries it's like logical for the draft and of
course other things might go wrong in which they're not winning but still he's
played like throughout ten years of different matters in Dota 2 so he has
you know dabbled with this hero in a hundred pubs this hero in 50 competitive
game so you know like the all the armies and your toros that you have around the
world they've got the deep hero pool. 12 heroes, 12 unique heroes he's played
the only PL being the one double that he's had this far so very impressive.
We'll see if he doubles up in today's series. We got Marana coming out for
extreme, they ban on the Wyvern, the other carry that was ban on with the
Lifestealer next to the Weaver. The Wyvern ban is nice of course to protect the enigma
front of the game, means Black Hole is going to be in play, and then they take the Marana
just to progress into the second phase of the draft. They don't want to reveal too much information.
Of course, we speak to Great Lens about the Dark Willows, the Maranas, the Wind Ranges,
like they all the same archetype of pick it, and then you see what happens. They don't reveal
anything. In XG, they thrive when their drafts are like stable, like they are really bad against
like lane winning teams and high tempo teams. Like historically, when gaming gladiators are in
peak form, you never saw XG win a game against them.
The matchup is terrible, and I think right now for XG in this tournament, the lane winning
teams will be able to beat them, because it's not really high tempo teams, it's just insanely
skilled laning teams.
It's what China has been historically known for anyway, right?
Like they're like team-fight prowess overall as opposed to their laning, like even when
you go back in time like FY Phoenix and you know like China Phoenix has always been like
one of the best, so their overall team-fighting aspect I think is already what they have like
pretty nicely. Generally when you have Enigma, if you're not answering this hero nicely, it will be
like a pretty damn important hero later throughout the game. But Navi, you know, they get themselves,
you have Rubik, Brew, pretty good combo, good heroes overall, they cover each other,
you have good scrimmaging, you have decent team fighting.
Hey, you have a Dazzle?
Yeah, Navi there. Their side lanes are going to look quite annoying to deal with. Dazzle into
the Enigma, if you poison touch the Idols and then commit to killing them, you can get the kill
on the idolans of course a carry that has that additional damage would help be a tiny or something
i can just kind of from range throw it a little bit more so it's something that i haven't seen yet
so generally enigma lanes really well into natures prophet and i also like that like you talk about
the enigma very good against enigma in the lane the tiny that is but if you have like natures prophet
dazzle dual lane maybe it's super annoying i haven't played against this lane as enigma myself but
if there's treants just constantly running at the idolans and you heal bomb them once i think all
all the idolons are gonna just die immediately.
And I think also in English they hear that plays very slow
around the map.
So I could see, you know, Navi playing on,
you have brew split, you can play aggressive,
you can take over the enemy, safe lane tier one,
maybe you can go to the mid lane.
So if Navi find the tempo carry,
I would absolutely love if they can pick it up.
Do you think that's a reason for Extreme Gaming
to pick up the Nature's Prophet themselves?
He has played it.
Yeah, I don't, I'm not like excited about it.
Just put that into Brewmaster,
you never really kill him as an Nature's Prophet carry.
But you know an Orchid buying carry, that's kind of a great thing to do.
And then it does all as well, like with Graves, you know,
teleporting into the data and teleporting into the guy that does all saving normally, right?
So it's okay if they do go for it.
But I'm expecting someone else to provide the solutions to the problems that profit would face.
Like it's generally nice if you can have a carry in this lane that is like somewhat self-sufficient
and you can like hold this lane and like when there's Bruce play that you don't just either instant die
You have to evacuate, which I think is where, you know, the weaver comes in, the lifestiller comes in.
There's even other players, maybe later down the line, you could think about, like, a juggernaut, just because he stays in this lane,
and he can hold it for a long time. I think that's...
It's not the grand final, Chef.
I know, and it's also not the last pick, so we have to wait for both.
He has 100% win or turn juggernaut this event, though.
Yep.
All of the games that he played on Juggernaut, he won.
He won this tournament.
One game?
Yep.
Nice.
Great sense.
We've got a pango coming out for extreme gaming so they'll save ame's pick for overall last
and we now know what efem is going to play
And this is knows it's like when you have this type of ladder from xg, the last pick from ame
it might not be the best laner into brew but if he sees a terrible ad-hill pl you know if he sees
like he is just going to go i will outscale you, of course historically that's what ame does
and now for niku you see pangalir
What do you want to play was he the one that got beat in the DK Pango matchup against Sumail or maybe Sumail did it against someone else
I don't remember but like the heroes I could see is like I think DK is okay
I think monkey King's okay, even though he hasn't really dabbled with the monkey King himself
See this is like the freest pot game if he wants to go for it
Back to back Huskar for him today as well. He did bust it out earlier today
I'm just happy that he went from
I'm having a bad day pick me on dying too. I'm having a good day pick me house. Yeah, thank God
That's great mid lane progression from Nico in this tournament
Yeah, and it is it's dirty because it's very good against pango
But mind you like ten even like ten years ago dazzle house car is an og combo. That's insanely good
Yeah, I mean now he's been one of the few teams that patch to patch they've tried to make the dazzle house car
Work you know like the science era of this roster
You you just need to consider that they are going to overlap their heroes very early on
like, Armlet on the Huskar, maybe he goes blink, maybe he just goes like BKB in tank
frontlines, but it is just going to be four heroes that don't care what he's doing, they're
going to objectives and they're going to try and like force you to react to it.
This is difficult, I think, like, because now also, so if you're Navi, you're going
to think about, okay, what does Armlet want to cook here, you know, on the last pick?
He's up against Brewmaster, he also sees a Huskar.
Generally, when you see Huskar, Range Carries is kind of what comes to mind, I think traditionally
they do better than the melee guys.
I kind of like the clink at the moment, just because you can scar behind the backline, skip some waves,
you eventually will have deso acts to take over some fights and just do big damage.
Yeah, because I think when you try to anticipate a little bit of what he wants,
it also makes it easier because both teams are still looking for the carry here in the slot.
It is an interesting one for XG because...
Do you right now, when you look at Na'Vi's heroes, do you consider them after a potential successful laning phase?
Actually breaking down the map to the Yandex level with these heroes at 20 minutes
I don't really see that type of map progression
They're forced to play on catapult waves or bruce bit to take object like towers at least they're great at tormentor the great erosion
And that alone might buy time for army to think of a slightly greedier carry
Yeah, I don't know if they can do it yet
I mean at least with these type of heroes like I would be
somewhat afraid picking a hero that is like heavy on the greed
because yeah if you play against a lineup that plays well with dazzle haska
brew with good lanes which seemingly that's gonna be the case haska will
destroy the mid lane I think brew rubik against and it's gonna be hoodwink and
insert last pick carry it's generally still pretty okay for them yeah you need
to be ready to fight relatively early if you're extreme we have our spin
phantom lancer natures prophet removed already from the carry pool this is where
got the juice just reminds everybody that he's the brood carry guy and then it's
like you have to deal with like the brood in the safe lane you have the
dazel to help kill the idol I would be like like it's very very toxic but with
said in PO banned there's actually a world also for XG someone I think it
was fate game religion did this you could put the enigma into the mid lane
against the Hustler that's actually a favorable matchup for the enigma I
personally would like that even more now because enigma doesn't lane well in
into Naga Siren, so if you're actually, you know, perhaps you can pull that out of your...
You put Naga, sorry, you put Enigma mid?
Yep, you put Pango offline.
Pango offline, yep.
Well, you still need a Hero 4, I'll make them though.
That is very true.
And that is where we're at.
Very low on the old bonus time here, reserve time for extreme gaming as well, so...
Oh, it's a little bit of a smart...
I mean, it's not good against Brew, but something like Necro is what I would be...
It's not easy to find a Hero that's good against this Tri-Core.
So I...
Oh, that crow has not yet been played.
That was perfect.
Luna.
Luna has also not yet been played.
There you go.
There you go.
It fits.
By army, of course.
By army, yes.
Yeah.
The last time was...
Whoa, that's an abysmal win, right?
Yeah.
So, I mean, it came to mind a little bit because it's like, it's a range carry.
It does well.
It has good tempo, but I actually enjoy playing brew into Luna myself, sure, like she has
glaives and she can own you but brew over plays her I think also naga is quite
annoying for Luna unless that matchup changed. Yeah I mean the brewmaster is
sorry the Luna it kind of feels like we just want to get a hero that can even
farm on lane maybe you beat the brew but I get I don't think Luna auto beats
brewmaster it's not like the best hero for that I think they just couldn't find
the perfect hero and it's quite a simple pick where you'll get your mantle plus
one and then you slot in with the movements of your pangolier or the
black holes of the enigma. I don't think it's anything too crazy of an army hero.
It's not like, wow, you're going to outscale, but they were in a tough position.
There's a Naga in the safe lane. There's a Husker from mid.
Like there's a lot of complications that Na'Vi threw into this draft.
And in fact, maybe just having stability on army was the correct approach rather
than, you know, obscure, carrying the hope that he can scale.
So we do feel like Na'Vi has the better of this draft.
Na'Vi just presented a lot of problems within the draft, and that once Na'Vi gets online and you play through the husk,
it's really annoying to deal with, but I think actually they have the line-up that if you just survive these very key item timings of Na'Vi,
they'll be happy to play. You do have your teamfight, you have big damage on Luna once you get to the items.
Sometimes Na'Vi can feel like she's not always itemizing to do big damage.
It could be this game where she's sending illusions in and they're getting killed by a Murano with an axe, a swash, some random bushwack.
like it can be annoying potentially for the Naga.
Yeah, so I do prefer Navi Strap by quite a bit,
but it is also, it leans on execution.
It looks a little bit like a Yandex draft, you know,
where maybe you're lacking some stuff,
but you're getting it from good lanes
and early aggression and good net worth.
And I think they can do it this game.
We're going to find out.
Game one of the best S3 elimination online
is coming year away with OD Pixel and Fog.
Thank you very much, UVS, Navi versus Extreme Gaming.
And we're getting another Huskar game coming into play.
And as the panel pointed out,
the game. I think it's been
a great success. And so we've
quite the strong classic combo
is the Huscott dazzled 30. Have
actually got what it takes to
deal with this, and what do you
make the last pick is point it
out as well. A new hero for
army this tournament. Of course,
was incredible repertoire of
carry heroes that he's shown us,
but it is a carry hero. That's
been losing pretty much every
game. Yeah, it's definitely been
having difficulties entering
into the game. I think if you
can ever get farmed on this
get to that point because of how much pressure is in the landing phase. I think it's always playing
from behind rather than playing from ahead, which is what Luna wants to do. And yeah,
I think XG they've gotten a much more honest approach of Dota. Sure, you can look across the
board, very comfort, good team fight, but Navi's, this is more dirty. And I really like what Kezu
said at the end there is, it's not like it's this ease of execution, though I will say for Navi.
It's pretty high execution based, but if they do get that execution, they could stop the game.
So we'll have to see if they can actually do that. XG though, pretty stable draft. I just like
I look at XM and I did see him really falter on the pango. I believe it was yesterday
So that's something I'm a bit concerned for them on sure
Yeah, because yeah pango has been a bit more missed than here. So the win right maybe they are gonna do that switch up
I think they are gonna put the pango in the off lane and they're gonna put the ending in the mid lane
But they're not gonna switch players who are playing right so they're gonna still like yeah
Yeah, so okay, we did see this from what was it fade it was from game a legion
Yep, so fate did try this. I do believe they didn't have losing that game, but they were
putting a lot of pressure. I liked overall what he did.
And he had a great start.
He did. So let's see how that's going to end up going. And let's see if this, let's see
top lane actually ends up doing okay. On paper you can see they can clear illusions,
although it's physical damage and there's a heal coming in which could counteract it.
Because that's the thing as well, you know, we talk about the Dazzle Combosion,
you know, they've got the Dazzle Huskull, so the Dazzle Bomb is strong.
It is very strong.
Another old school one that you get the illusions out, you do a little bit of a heal bomb,
It's a lot of damage. I don't see them being able to pressure this top lane at all on the side of xg
It's just gonna be all right guys. We're gonna have to get through the lane and that's the best of it. So
Mid lane they should win the lane right zeal versus niku should have a very good time on this enigma
Yeah, bottom lane this one could be a bit volatile could go either way depending on how the spell casting goes in
But PMA should be pretty safe over on the brew to get that solid farm and pressure on me
And we'll see, yeah, because indeed you said the other day when we did up there at the
mid Enigma, he had a great start, but then his game went downhill pretty quickly.
What was it against again that they ended up swapping?
It wasn't a Huskar right?
No, I'm going to fight, I'll fight.
Was it a Viper?
No.
It was some of a lane dominator, right?
I got you in a second.
Maybe it was a Huskar, but yeah, it was the game of legion in the series the other day.
One more click and I'll get it for you.
And I think it was game one.
Was it?
Was it not?
It was.
It was versus...
Slark.
Ah yeah, of course.
Yeah, absolutely. So yeah.
They did the dodge of the Void Spirit.
Bottom, we do see the kill coming in.
I do like their setups and I didn't even get to talk about this yet.
It's still early of course, but looking at the Rubik, always we do like to mention it.
This is one of the best Rubik's games again, it's another one of those trillions that are insane.
He's playing against Enigma, Panko, everybody.
Every spell that you get this game is good.
What's the worst spell? You're going to get Leap and Scurry, everything else looks pretty insane.
Top, you get to pull into the illusions, XM will be okay.
That was close to him getting deal bombed.
And when you do these type of lane swaps, you kind of have to win the lane pretty hard.
First I once can be dealable with it's when the level two ones come out is when you start to really put the pressure on so see how Niku deals with this lane.
I mean he can, yeah he can die in this lane Niku.
Sure can.
Yep.
Quite easily and overall in the game too for the Huskar this is why it can be a bit of a risky pick sometimes he is playing into Hoodwave too so they do have a natural break in between things and pretty high burst of the draft.
So it's definitely not the easiest game for Niku by any means, but the fact that he has the dazzle, maybe can turn some of those matchups as well.
Interesting to see the rise of the Hosscar again too, right? We did see it kind of disappear for quite some time and then bam!
Of course we do have literally the two teams and two players to play the most Hosscar. Malrin's not here, so...
So far, not bad for Niku, 13-2, so he's 10 or 9, but he's getting something.
He's got his boots already picked up, he's clearly played some type of matchups like
this, he's even getting some of the Aedalons when he's able to.
Actually, gonna get a lot of them there, okay, careful.
I'm gonna be giving up too many of those.
Niku is getting a lot, this is more than he should be giving up.
I haven't seen this matchup as much so maybe this is the way it goes.
Well then you are just gonna lose somebody I've lost to the Huskup.
Pops the glyph, getting some good damage out to him here.
Niku does have stick and fairy to play versus the top.
The heal's coming in.
Thanks Sam, should be alright.
So that's a swashbuckle.
Getting a fair bit on this bangle.
Thought he was gonna be shut down more in this top lane.
They're slowing, not really slowing down, got the juice by any means,
but at least XM is able to get something of his own.
Because this is a very potent combo between the two as you see what the heals.
And on equal, you can go jungle. You do it so fat, careful. We did see a Marne die to a pine cone.
You jungle at very fast pace at this point when you have these levels on Oscar too, so...
I mean, he's gonna be alright. I mean, he's pretty happy.
Obviously, this is better for XG than if they didn't have the pango mid though, so that's...
Sure, absolutely.
I'm sure the Enigma hasn't gone mid and dominated the Huskar,
but it's still better than if you kept the Enigma on the side lane,
And that's the pack on the mid. It's not to take the tower those you know immediately
I like that he buys nothing else right straight for the germ which you do see on most of the enigmas of course
But now it's time to pressure the tower don't overextend too far because you can't get killed if you step up past the tower too much
If it's rotation comes in
He is lucky that attack redirect that was very close
There's gonna get days instead
He was dead if it didn't redirect to the tree there that messed with it coming into play
The fact that he threw that blood grenade almost killed him, but he ends up living
I love that innate
Continues to be extremely strong. PMA also dropping quite low here
They've done a good job of spamming him out of the lane now. Aume
Farmers looking pretty good. But same thing for the brew all three cores on the side of Navi
Looking good same thing for XG though
Top rotation. Days to make the move.
It's getting pretty insane now that the levels are there between the two of them.
Going back up there now probably a bit dangerous, at least if you want to just play the lane like that, right?
You have to just go for the spam. You can't actually walk up because they just pull you into it.
Really good usage of the real-in. I actually have not seen real-in really being used.
Yeah, but it makes it so easy right for the Dassault to get the setup to get these insane amount of units around them with the heal bomb.
He's getting pretty much all three of them every single time. It absolutely adds up quite quickly, and he's now bottom
Very good move from the two supports are not here
They will lose their mid tower out of it, but maybe a choice that they made the deck, you know what?
Our heroes our two supports don't really deal with idolons either, so they just take the sack make the moves elsewhere get the kills
Zeal is going to have a pretty big game though, so let's see how much he can do with it.
He's going to go for the urn build afterwards, maybe he does go for Vessel Shard, just fighting
type of style.
I think I would quite like that this game.
It's not a black hole game, right?
He's playing versus Rubik.
It's not one that he's going to be playing around in.
So I would like if he does actually commit for these type of items and just make the moves
around the map, look to make the space there for Amme here with his great advantage at
the moment. Shinkyu, the deep ward has been placed to pressure Niku. It does get taken
away immediately so Niku will be happy up to level 6 now.
I'm just going to take away a little bit of the jungle from Niku. It keeps him, I mean
quote unquote keeps him off the map as well, right? So he's not showing himself in the
mid so the pressure is there they do see him with a ward but ideally right like
he's not showing himself so much so can make these moves he also restricts the
huskars farm around this in this area too so I like that positioning
next time despite death just still getting his levels top he's just about
to hit the six oh try and strike before he does get it on my dog one more hit
the poison touch gets refreshed I've got it on so we'll be able to slow down
down that six a little longer goes for the Falcon blade in between things he's
trying to just tank up to survivors this burst but it's too much as you see
coming in here from the heels even by a bracer and Falcon blade
41 even on the numbers across the board here down the other side of the map
PM a he'll hit his six so there's potential for some dives early on if
they want to with the split plays. The heroes look very strong when it gets away with this
type of lead. The Bunker. He's just right up dead. Well, do the job, get the XP for
PMA to hit the six. If this brew does get a hat damage, damage will be limited for them
to deal with the brew split. Sure, Pangolin Lun at some points, but in the early game,
this brew split is going to be a force to be reckoned with if he gets away with this
much. See him? Does manage close the gap on a Riddies. He'll have a grave. Nice box.
have much more beyond that
Brazil still able to
Come in with the micro at the kill
Potentially even taking out this top tower too
They're aggressive moves from the syndicman. He's dictating pace
Yeah, I can put really nice pressure on at a point where
Now if he might not quite be prepared to deal with it this early
They're here. I'm just looking at it across. No one likes to kill item on right not really the greatest spam by any means to just like
Yeah, Nuke them, clear them out with the physical early. Sure, as he said later.
Well, yeah, early to the game, this is because pressure is very, very powerful against Na'Vi.
Brew will be able to deal with them, of course.
You know, Ida wants to get wiped from the clone or the clone, whatever it's called.
Gingis.
Go in the net.
I'll zeal here to...
He survives.
Oh, pal. And the doubles you have, the Black Hole ready if they get a chance to close in.
Nice try, GQ, if he does hit that.
Lucky, a kill on to got the juice.
They're looking to go back in again.
This is very aggressive posturing from the side of Navi.
Bottom, looking for the dive onto Baboka again.
This time will be alright.
Top the heels with the Black Hole.
I've got the Black Hole!
Enough damage.
Ah, with the burst!
Don't bring him down low, but the grave comes in.
They got any further heals they do doesn't matter swashbuckles there for the exam
They get the job done take out the two of them and keep zeal alive. I'm shocked they went for that play
I have to be honest. I thought like maybe someone was coming through the portal to look for something
Oh, all right. All right
Turns and takes out days one versus two because like yeah
When you go for this like you're not a sardine you're getting the farm
You're not a hero that wants to make that type of aggressive move sure you might feel like you have the damage versus a nigma
But he could just drop the but yeah, I was
That was quite a blunder there from Na'Vi.
That hurts, I mean, you're down 2k.
Any game, obviously, where you've come in with a Huskar pick.
Don't really want to be behind, but the adaptations of XG and now some of the mistakes of Na'Vi are adding up.
Na'Vi, they've got to find something back in their favor.
As we said, Na'Vi's draft is strong, but it's very high execution based.
You can't be making those type of mistakes like this at this point.
So we can get done here.
This time around, obviously no black hole if the cam finds you.
Zeal and Niko with the Invis plus the armlet
Our side smoke plus the armlet with the shield
A bit more success this time around
Huskar if he was going for a play then that's what everybody just like watching the Naga go for that type of play at this point
It just feels it felt very awkward. Don't think they'll make that mistake again on the side of Navi and I know that they can really
do those type of mistakes with this draft it's it's a draft that you have to be
very careful how you play in terms of like keeping an advantage in the game
and they don't even have the advantage because if I'm able to sit back he gets
to these items he's very good versus not he's very good versus brew once he gets
to the point of his like butterfly plus that meant the yeah I mean he may have
lost the tower running in the safe lane but first farm is indeed still very good
on the Lunar. Yep. Because this hero does absolutely deal with illusions. It deals with
the Brucefoot if it gets to a certain point. It will be able to just kill them. Even though
we've seen the heroes struggle in this tournament, you said 11% win rate or so, absolutely can
get to a point in this game where they will have damage. Plus he's got amplifications
too. He's got the pango with the lucky shot at some points.
Last smoke time for next gen.
I think Navi at any time that they're just able to hit creeps they're going to be incredibly
content right just sit back with the Naga with the Huskar they have a lightest on the
brewmaster so they just they do want to farm a lot they're going to try and see if they
can find the Naga siren for Bo Krijinky they'll get their hands on Riddies he'll go for the
grave TP not a fish there no from zeal puts a stock to that one they do at least take
the attention away from got the juice I think it'll be Navi's pretty okay with that you
said very greedy pros that they've gone for now here, Naga plus Brumasco the Midas, definitely
going to look at the creeps. So for XG, can look to take advantage of these timings right now.
Very strong team fight for them, taking out two of the towers so far here already.
They'll have a big play ready pretty soon, Zeal's got Blackholt back up and he'll pretty much have
the blink dagger for that next Blackholt. Oh cool, so switching it a little more, I thought he was
going to go more aggressive with his items in terms of not Blackholt style, but looks like
he does want to play more around their black hole.
And you like this runiku, the relatively early bots pick up right from Haskar.
You can join in with the brew, right?
So that's kind of interesting.
A bit different, but that just tells me they want to farm, right?
They are looking to just hit the creeps as much as possible on the side on Navi.
Lift!
They got him.
This time around, we're not going to be a way to play this way out of this with a black hole.
I have to accept his fate.
Daze is taking quite a beating from the idle on so be okay, though
One zeroes back up. I would imagine we're gonna see XG trying go for a smoke play around the black hole and then so yeah
PMA this was actually a really nice move the fact that he can do this without the split right just having that attack speed from the Midas
That's actually kind of hurt though
He must be pretty close to having the blink dagger gold where they killed it
He is still 200 gold short now. I wonder if this is gonna pay off for him going for the blink
I really thought he was gonna go more early game itemization to put the pressure on the Navi rather than playing around whole but we'll see if that works
Because the versus Rubik
We'll come to choose
Oh Niko versus Armae Armae wins. It's a freebie
And he's healing up off the mask of madness is it enough it's not it's actually kind of close
And he'll still take that any day at the wheat right getting the solo kill solo XP against the mid Haskar
He's level 12.
Oh, nice pushback from the Volcker.
I think Riddie's in the tree. Nice arrow.
Arrow comes in.
Man, it's gonna be Riddie going down.
Not able to survive or save himself once the grave comes to an end.
Backup's coming in. PMA is here.
I think he's fine. He's still got a roaming thunder.
I ought to use it just to get away from the split.
That's the split for nothing.
Oh, that was awkward.
And now the Blink Dagger is done for zeal.
So they can absolutely look to try and go into Narveenow
they know that there's no split to worry about the counter play.
I need to, I guess he just really thought that he could stand Tota tall with the Luna, but...
That's tough going for that sort of play and then not working out.
And he boots a travel's bottom looking for the aggressive play immediately.
And he'll just go straight hard.
Now big stack here for Armit.
Keeping on par with that, the Tharmuk up the juice quite nicely.
Very close between the two carries.
It's a very important game for Ami to keep his cool, keep himself at this level.
As you said, there's some pretty amazing item timings he can get towards, and he does get
towards pre- I mean, once he gets that butterfly, right?
It does feel incredible versus Navi's draft.
It's mostly a physical damage draft that they do have coming out here.
I think he might just do Mantle butterfly.
Definitely the possibilities out of this game.
Alright, does he like to say he's actually waiting on the blink dagger now?
He is switching.
He bought the shard in between.
He gets a hit in 15 minutes, so yeah, he wants to have that in between.
I'm happy. I actually prefer that.
Sometimes these like rush blinks, they can just put you in a very dangerous scenario.
Even though you look and you're like,
they actually don't have the best ways of canceling Blackhole.
It really is just song plus rubik early.
But either way, it can be a bit of a risk.
And now the switch is actually happening, right?
Where XM is getting quite a bit of farm on the pango
and now they're actually just the roles as they would have been, right?
Now pango is essentially a mid laner.
Pan Enigma is essentially that off-leader that he was meant to be, but they just did the switch of the lanes.
Got a good little much point on these last few minutes. Seal has just sort of been set up on the top lane.
Trying to deal with the pressure that got the juices from putting on with the illusions.
Yeah, Naumek, looking at his item position, he is queuing it up as I kind of figured
it is the build nowadays for the Luna, but even more so this game versus pretty much
all physical damage.
If he can sit back and get Butterfly, I do feel some worry for Naumek.
And I think that Naumek, overall, they're happy and they're content with just hitting
the creeps themselves too, so I wonder what they're, I wonder if they feel like it doesn't
matter, we're going to be able to deal with it.
Yeah, because in terms of kind of old-school carry matchups, you know, how does sort of the Luna versus Naga Siren look?
It's always weird factoring Naga. Naga isn't really as much of a carry.
Can Naga Siren still be that incredible kind of hyper late game carry?
In a way, when you're playing around the Bloodthorns, but I would say it's much harder to do than compare it to something with Luna,
where you just have like Swift Blink, Butterfly, Satanic, right?
Sure, it all just happens so much faster from the Luna in these fights.
I mean because we're saying toward the end of the thing right very execution based for Navi
They have to be very cautious with specific timings that they have to fight around
To kid lead at the moment for them, but actually looking to fight themselves you with this blink
If I need to
Bring around they try and get over there with the dazzle of the novel projection, but they can't get in in range and now the riddies
Just be going down on top of it
Grave comes in, PMA is going to use the split, Trey fight back against Armey, he's taking
a lot of damage on the Lunar, he's ready with the Eclipse's Trey, clearing out the Bruhlins
Armey, he's still dead.
PMA just beats him up.
They might just get more from this, XM's caught, Baboka's left behind, alright PMA,
showing the power of the Bruhlmaster here as he's able to turn it around.
That was a what, he had level 12, so he had the technical level 3 split when he did get it off there.
Mike, the damage that it did there was crazy.
Man, they could not deal with the damage in return to get rid of them.
Okay, maybe the brew will be a secondary brew will be that second carry.
That's why they're just hitting the creeps there, you know what?
Maybe we can just deal with it. The scaling.
This hero has had one. I think it's a 75% win rate so far here.
It's been a hard win rate, yeah.
It's been looking so much stronger than I think a lot of us imagined it to.
Top of the road, Shem.
So they'll lose Niko, but a worthwhile sacrifice.
That was literally just a, it was like just a brood running through all of them there. Very impressive.
And quickly get Niko at the stop.
And then we'll move a bit of Redis.
He's not wrong, he was.
He was.
And he was indeed, but unfortunately for Niko.
Even though he goes down at the start, PMA pops his ult and just runs at them.
It was split second, he just got the axe.
Literally on the courier that it got delivered, so split second that it comes in.
Otherwise, Navi would not have been able to take that.
That just completely destroys armor.
That's the one thing about XG's line of writing, it's quite aggressive in its nature.
That isn't really the best way to bail out the Lunar if the Lunar starts getting gone upon.
No, unless they do build some type of force staffs or solars, I don't see them building that though.
that though. Baboka has built a shard. Marana building for herself. Nice hit there from
Navi. Up to a 4k lead now, giving themselves a good cushion. Now they've got the horde
get finished on top of Potentious... I mean, let's see what he does want to go for the
Bloodthorne. I think he probably stalls it out afterwards, but...
And that was quite a bit. Did Ciel not have the black hole? Could he not have dropped it
to save Arme or something else going on?
I think he could have, but I think he's afraid of the Rubik.
Sure.
Tomasiel is dead in the mid.
PMA is running it now.
This axe, Brew.
Ah, he might. Let's find another.
That's Maboka under the tier two.
Cuts the tree.
Ah, they're gonna get him. Jump forward from days.
Another one for PMA.
Solo kill as well. Got the juice funds in queue.
Alright, well, things really looking up for NB now. 6K lead.
What a rapid acceleration of things just around that Brew axe.
Even though they lost Niku.
Yeah, this bruise looking crazy. He is and got the juice he is
Zoom it out in farm and if the most part army was pretty close behind him
But the gap is blowing up now just in a few moments literally great just in those three four minutes after that move
And what do you do about this bruise get out of control?
I mean PMA he's done this in quite a few games with a few different heroes, right?
He has had some pretty crazy moments that it was earlier today, right?
got a rampage on his axe. He did. So yeah, PMA, he looked pretty fantastic. I think he
just looked to wait for Amin and have Potterslip and Amin spray again. He's going to try and
fight this. They'll blow get the Dazzle. Oh, he's picking up the heals. I think he's
going to lie down. Now Niko's just having to move in onto Zeal's deck. Really surviving.
Niko will drop the watch, but he's got the Aegis. He gets a good angle on and got the
juice with the wrong thunder. Oh, great roll. And now he had to completely control him
to take him down. And Niku, he is very takey with this heart.
Wow, in the river, XM, unlikely to get out of the end of this fight.
Look at the Asia-7, Niku. They're able to kill, got the juice, still losing two heroes
for it. I'm glad Omay disengages at least. I thought
Omay was going to continue running through there. Just use the opportunity to use the
Eclipse and run in. Backs away. So they get some cleanup kills, but two cores being brought
down again for the one that's costly happy picking and choosing their battles
nicely I gotta say I'm honest I'm a bit surprised that he went for this blink
dagger build it's just not a situation where it's that easy for you to ever get
these black holes even if there's not that many disables yeah I mean it was
because what what would you like to see instead what what are the alternative
build-ups. Just the standard that we've seen. He could have even maybe just early
BKB. Just early BKB. From plus shard and BKB, something along those lines, then
just some armor, because he does need armor this game too. That's tough. Maybe
just BKB agonim. It's the blink, just it feels a bit risky for him, and actually
seeing him not be able to find the angles here. At some point of course you
one. It's not the first time that we have seen cutties off lane enigma players have
to switch things up, go to the mid and then beyond the laning phase things get a bit more
complicated and it's a very different position for them to be in right.
And it's always just going to be the fear of if you pass the bad black wall and he steals
it you can just lose the fight so hard because of it.
Ahmek, he has gotten to the butterfly timing.
Solid timings and as you mentioned not a lot but if anything really to do with the evasion until that blood form comes out later
From got the juice. It's other two cores though fallen pretty far behind though after those last two moves
XM does have the Lotus to protect themselves, but
It has to be very careful how he approaches these fights because they can almost die in one stun as we're seeing does have protection
At least versus that orchid though
Sweet, so he got the juice. He's got orchid and I think he has butterfly now too. So he's still keeping himself ahead of all that
of the
city smoke up and look for the fight here with this I think you do
and I was going to come to them first
to be the feeling hesitant because you doesn't have that the KB
yeah
that was the thing we're kind of grouping up for and then they're like never mind
maybe they just grouped up in preparation at this point from not a
perhaps a sensing that a smoke could be coming their way
here. Nice novel projection with the little poison touch hex. PMA is about to hit 18 too,
so level 4 split is going to be online and he's soon having AC. They won't have the damage yet at
this point to go through that first split. It's going to need to be that extra item from Ame to
to deal with it.
Maybe if they have the black hole
and Armey's in on top of them,
he needs to be getting hit some of the butterfly.
But indeed, even then,
it's gonna take pretty much the entirety
of the whole team focusing the broolings.
Seal's farm is far enough a cliff to just still
struggle to find it.
He needs the BKB for the fight.
And even then, it's not an end-all-be-all answer.
Daze can just wait in the back lines.
He's got Blink four-staffers
for positioning on this Rubik.
The losing tower sits his dead on the bottom.
starting to lose quite a bit of control of this game.
And always hard when you're playing versus Naga Siren
to control the map so that you wanna pick
and choose those battles with your big team fight
because she's always split pushing you on the sides.
And if you do choose one wrong fight
versus the other, we see what can happen.
PMA, that is essentially the AC done
with the level four split.
You probably have to just BKB Blackhold.
I think you just go a little...
You've got to control them.
Yeah, I think you somehow have to be very aware of where Daze is, so...
Someone has to be the information gatherer or the pango, right?
Just jump the back line, go for the Vrubik while they just go for the kill onto the brew,
because he does feel like the big problem.
That will give full liberty though to the Naga and the Huskar, so it's not the easiest approach though.
Yeah, I'm even feeling like he needs to go for a BKB himself.
can't just go for all the aggressive items this game even though he wants to
If he doesn't go BKB, he just gets brew thrown up into the air and the fights and does nothing so absolutely needs it
Always a annoying thing about playing carry versus brew master. It's just got so many tools to deal with you
BKB's done for us
Okay, let me get the push rack.
That's a good burst.
It's getting very low.
Wanna be able to stop the split.
Couldn't connect in time with the rolling thunder, so the split's out.
Half a second lead from XM.
Clearing through the broolings, just not an option.
They would have had him there too.
It was very very close
Bruce split use they get the tower out of it they can back up reset the cooldown it gonna be back coming back up pretty quickly, too
Was an arcane rune I believe they did get that split off so it's back up in 60 seconds. They want to try and punish
Dude this this arcane rune might have caught up my cats some off guard, too
If they don't find something in the next 50 seconds again
That Bruce split will be at the ready
All on zeal to find the black holes but as we say not easy against the potential turn around from a rubik or a
Naga siren they're getting out greeted they're getting out farmed hard now at this point 14k lead for navi
Got the juice getting out of control scottie's done
He has like he almost feels like a full item in a half now and i may
Starting to get some dangerous territories got the juice nearly finding zeal
They're gonna go for the TP out, they're gonna catch him.
This is looking real difficult now, it's just got one timing that PMA gets with the agonimus and they've jumped up to a 15,000 lead in just 10 minutes or so.
He's really got his work cut out for him on the Luna this game. It's a heavy one to carry.
Navi has executed when they needed to.
All around is Brewmaster 8-0 and 6.
PMA does this sometimes on his specialty heroes, his axe.
Now we're seeing Brew added to the list.
That does feel like in some of these series, Brew's going to have to rise up in the cut of the ban priorities
against some of these players.
Just looking at the comparison of the two, right? Pango and comparison to Brew.
Brew, even without Ulti, we're seeing able to do things lately.
another rush out. I won't be able to get out here to do anything about it.
That play on this draft is nice.
We'll let the PKP ready for the next push coming into the play. It's gonna be this
Aegis push picked up by Niku. And I feel like now he needs that he needs that
damage item in between to be able to clear some of these things out. He's very
fragile on Ame. And yeah, the farm, the farm for Zeo and XM, it just, it completely stopped
about 10 minutes ago or so. They were at 10,000 net worth, they've gotten what? Yeah, look,
in the last five minutes they've gotten next to nothing on them, 1700. Same as some of the
supports. You can tell they're feeling that pressure. Look at XM inside the base, just
hugging his two supports. See you just hugging Amai, hoping that he finds an opportunity
maybe that they're split off and they find some type of kills around this. This is very
hopeful though not easy to just commit fully they don't know what the dazzle
is
Damage is ramping up slightly since you did get an agonim so he is absorbing some of that farm at least that his two other cores aren't getting, but
Yeah, they're just getting completely outscaled at this point. Navi, they're getting everything absolutely owning the map. Yeah, everyone's farming
everyone scaling
It's gonna be sort of this one big all-in play from XG that maybe keeps the game alive
Or maybe is the beginning of the end for this game one is trying so hard to get that extra farm
He gets the blink so he's just positioning for him.
Those have the 20 talent.
Yeah, they might have to fall in like a jump like.
It's gonna be some sort of old in play.
It's gonna be dangerous to like to age us and into this tankiness
and they need to know where Dazzle is.
And into the song.
Yes, song can always reset.
They're expecting this wraparound too.
Look at that the juice.
Bloodthorn is finished.
can't fully focus fire onto army too after the BKB or the mantis used and the
buildings are falling somebody's gonna have to get this husker off the base but
nobody really prepared to do so
army his damage is just not quite there
the command with the split he goes straight up and it was the squishies first
forces babo can a run throw him up in the air as you're watching from the side
I see if there's any chance to get him with a black hole.
The base just being created here by PMA to allow Niku to focus the barracks.
The fortification comes out.
And it should be another space for them to get the full set top.
You can look to back off and do this again on another lane.
Still two minutes to try for these moves.
They try to find the angle, but they just can't.
Navi, executing it beautifully. No mistakes since that play bottom.
Nobody hemorrhaging any of these kills, XG.
Trying with this honest approach to play against them, but unable to find these angles.
Have you seen the Black Hole? Right, he just came to leave and get them off.
Only the one top right that they walked into at the start.
Hasn't been having to find a chance outside of that.
I'll be doing a good job of just not giving those opportunities for zeal to find
Up to 19 up to 20 K it just continues to rise as we said only army finding farm
He's gonna need like an MKB and rapier really to turn this one around it feels it's got to be the
The big stuff from our mate. Yep, MKB plus the me Daniel. I don't even know he needs so much
He's going to be very vulnerable as well, see you.
Man, nearly gets caught, man, that was close.
Very lucky.
Yeah, they're hopeful pretty much this for a, it's like four or five main black hole at this point,
but Navi, there's almost no way that they give them the...
Not because the two supports don't even need to show.
And the cause, they don't need to play anywhere close to the push of Niku, right?
Niku's going to be hitting the base, EMA,
and he's not going to be standing on top of the Huskar,
and so's the case, forgot the juice, he doesn't need to be there either.
there either. He'll just play past the Huskar right and just pop the split and so on. It's
just it is pretty much an impossible game to find more than one hero out of that color
feels at this point. Get the connection but Niku just far too tanky at this point. Another
the floor trying to push them back just doesn't do any damage not yet takes a
ball to bring down even the illusions
ages reclaim but Navi they don't want to go anywhere even without the ages they
They know how much stronger they are at this point.
PMA is just going to wait and split.
Just jump in, push with the split.
Take space for the racks to fall.
Bruins are kind of dying.
Do they want to commit for it though?
I don't think so.
It's too dangerous.
Take it in, get the racks, back up, reset, pick up their items.
Lavi.
Clean approaches.
Yeah, it's looking really good.
They had sort of, as you say, a couple of shaky moves
early on, but ever since that, it has come together for them and
very much seeing them play this, this lineup.
So exactly how you'd imagine that.
I think that's sort of trio with the, the Husqvar, Dazzle, Naga Siren.
I don't know, they're getting that again. Maybe on an individual level,
maybe PMA's Brew is, is going to be more,
uh, more subject to the conversation earlier in the drafting.
Yeah, I think they've recognized pretty early on, Navi, like after they did that
blunder top with Naga tries to go for the play on, and it was like,
Why are we doing this right like we can just hit the creeps let the fight come to us PMA
You just run these teamfights. Yeah, that pretty much what happened was that one fight bottom and from then smooth sailing
All right, he's got his MKB. All right, so we'll be able to deal with the Naga Siren and the illusions a little better. It's a little fly
It feels like he does need that
Plus one or two though that big he needs like a Daedalus or that break your like your suggestion
Yeah, suggesting and he's like
I just have to bring the Blingtons, the Swifling, just because of the slot situation.
Having to sell his treads to make space for the NKB.
Unfortunate for him.
Look at the game, look at the game of the last five minutes of the evening with the Pango.
They're just getting zero gold stuck inside their base.
I'm sure they got the less gold in the last five minutes than, you know, multiple of the supports.
Uh-huh. They just can't get anything.
Smoked up looking for something here.
I mean, they'd love to be able to take PM out before he can get a split off, but it's so hard.
Yes, now with Profit Pendulum as well too, there's no way.
And especially when he uses the split aggressively like this, just gets him using the split straight away
so they can get a bit more progress done against the base.
It's the tier three guard.
Oh, my help, he lobes us.
Kept safe for now.
I can do the slow siege, Navi, and there's just not a lot that XG can do against it.
Very disciplined. We've seen some games like you said from Na'Vi, a little shaky overall.
There's some of the disciplines for sure there.
Back up, reset, pick up those items again here.
Another 3700 gold on the Huskar.
It's only Ame getting any growth.
Along for Roche, you can likely wait for that one for Na'Vi.
They've got double lane pressure coming on the sides.
If you can get a Swift Blink and a Rapier, the comeback might be...
Or Daniels.
On the tape.
I'm okay with it.
You think it would just be...
Yeah, it does a lot when you're...
Sure.
The lunar orbit, if you do get to...
If you actually can, ever, but yeah, it still is, of course, very hard, but...
The thing... The fact that it's just him,
that's the worry, is that no one else is getting any extra scaling on it.
No, I mean, they can...
Wait for the Rose, Shan.
They do get crazy tanky, though.
I'm actually looking at things like, you know what?
Yeah, of course, he does need as much as possible.
It's just like 40 armor Naga 40 armor brewmaster factoring in the weave the innate from the dazzle as well to everyone just insanely tanky
And that
Annoying little play that we saw a my execute in the last series. It's online now
He's got the hurricane pike knee-coat so you can start dragging them out at the base
And he absolutely knows how to do it. I've seen him do it before as well him in a mark
Pretty gross with it. Refresher now for PMA.
Insane timings he's been able to find this game.
He can just split, pack it up, split again, and that's probably the racks he's playing, the Megas.
Actually, if he wants to push in, tight the rug.
They have some absurd level of connection here with this upcoming fight.
It's got to be a multi-hero black hole.
and by multi-mume at four, the rubik has to be...they don't know exactly where the rubik is to...
rush, navi's about to scout it, and at the rush, and then again it's going to be the plan
here for navi...xg at 27k, and you un- able to do any type of sneaky place, and I think maybe we are
just seeing it again just some of the struggles that these teams have when they do feel forced to
kind of make these lane switch ups right it just changes things relative to how they've been so
used to playing the game as a team when suddenly you kind of have these roles switched up and
probably one of the reasons especially against narfi why just that hush car it might just have to go
yeah you might just have to take that out pretty early because you just don't want to play when
when you're forced to sort of do so in such a different fashion.
Dazzle too, I don't know.
Some of the games, it's just when you get ahead, it does so much.
Able to control pretty much every single one of the fights,
even when you're behind, but you've seen some of the great things.
How much some of these could carry right?
Already, we know that the nature of Dazzle is very popular.
Now we're seeing Naga Siren kind of getting picked and win every game.
It's another top tier combo with Dazzle
that's proving to be a very relevant carry right now.
Niku, shows himself on the front, Moonlight shadows you,
and Ami does have the Swift Blink.
So a bit of an increase in damage for him too.
They are just so tanky at this point on the side of Navi.
It's hard to see him clearing out. Clearing two of the chorus, three.
Maybe one he can go through.
He might not get there to the next time, but I'll be interested to see what he does do up.
Because, as you say, it's one of the two, right?
It's Daedalus over here. So I'm just interested to see what Arme considers.
It would be the bigger kind of step-up in damage, or at least the better call to make.
He's probably right here, just because they have double racks down as well too.
You don't need to go for the crazy risky type of play, but yeah, just it's hard for him either way.
Niku, four minutes on the ages in the front line.
Swift Blink on Got the Juice.
He's had a chill game on this Naga Siren. Yeah, he's getting to eat up the entire map basically with his illusions.
Thank you very much.
You see on the gold, as you can see on the levels, the classic Naga Siren situation where he's dominating, but he's actually kind of behind on the levels.
See the split used, Arma's going to try and clear through it. That was pretty decent damage.
What would be on the finish here if PMA comes back out of it?
Jumped forward onto Arma, he's got the BKB off in time, trying to turn, kill off Nika, but the heals are there.
Faker's fine, they can just turn focus down on me, he's out of the game, of course no buyback on him as he has to spend up to actually have the chance of having the items to do the damage.
What a nice song from God the Juice, everyone else has just slapped, they have to just watch on me die.
I think it was the first song of the game. I think it was it man. The first and last song. And now they're ready to close it up, onto the tier 4s.
That's it?
Yep, I think so.
And let's not want to try one kind of final attempt with the Black Hole, but no.
They won't. They know there's nothing to be done.
GG is called Navi.
Very clean from them.
Very much so. There was a point this game, but then onwards looked impossible for XG to recover from.
They had a decent start with the lanes, right? They make the switch up.
But again, it was one of those situations that everything beyond the lanes felt kind of rough.
Chuck was one split from PMA with an agonims, and it felt like they just ran the show and made zero mistakes and completely controlled everything, so for Navi, they definitely can't get this type of combination of heroes and XG, maybe not.
They tried to play this in some type of honest manner, I think perhaps don't let Navi play this dishonest Dota.
No, Navi having a fantastic draw for themselves, and they showed us how comfortable they were with it as they take game one.
a fantastic showing from Navi. I know that maybe we talked about that if the game lasted long enough
extreme gaming eventually would maybe have a good say in this game but even though it didn't
you know it wasn't very once our rather it wasn't very fast of a game extreme gaming never really
felt like they were in it to win it. Yeah we're not going to hear this word too often because that's
kind of reminded me Falcon Marta team it was just very mechanical from from Navi they knew exactly
they knew what they wanted to do and I think with the brewmaster as soon as you got to the
point where the inaugural illusions of split footish pushing and then half Scott or brew
muster ult was sieging and actually still couldn't deal with that you're like ah yeah
they have no tools to really deal with it and the problem with like Lunar is you need
to play with confidence it's like you stand in your lane you get an item you tell your
team we're making a move you then go to an objective and if you're not doing that you
just sit back hit creeps and never really get into the game.
I think the problem for AG they're just lacking like they're lacking a core hero and I think
it goes back like first of all the Dazzle is annoying the Brew is annoying and also like this 18
Huskar even though they do a cool lane swap like with the enigma going mid it's still you don't
have a pangol like no matter where the pangol goes in this game if he goes mid against Huskar he's
gonna get destroyed he went off in against Dazzle Naga that's a very good lane like you consistently
get heal bomb with everything like one team is playing enigma you want to play through his hero the
other team is brew master pma could do whatever the hell he wanted in this game because the smith
laner is gonna destroy everyone else around the map they have a naga as well and honestly I think
I think this game was too easy for Na'Vi. They even made a couple of mistakes, but it didn't really matter.
I think they have this kind of option or even chances to not play perfect and still win.
I'm a little upset that as the tournament progresses, teams are just forgetting specialty heroes that people can play.
We saw Nicos Haskar earlier today, and now coming into this draft, he gets it again in that second phase
because the time he picks open and you kind of want to counter it.
And it's like, I feel like in any other tournament, any other setup, you'd be thinking,
I had this Huskar still we respect Navi, but for some reason this event
It's just like the big specialty here is the dirtyness is please you don't pick it and we were I mean
I personally like XG for the honesty and how they played don't like you look at this lineup
It has great traditional concepts and aspects
But it's not gonna be able to outdeal Navi's draft if Navi play it like perfectly and they did and
I mean you hear Fox 8. It was too honest imagine that you know you got it sometimes
Stota doesn't get you W's, that's the problem.
It does not.
And there's one clear MVP on this game,
overall first pick brewmaster for PMA.
Had every potential for extreme gaming to counter pick
and to counter play and all that jazz,
but this guy just smashed it either way.
It was a treat to watch.
Yeah, he did really nice.
You know, he had the early Midas into the aggro.
He also made a couple of moves without using split.
You know, they had the tier one tower down,
he can go to the gate.
He can go to the offline and once they had a stable map sure actually got two towers, but after that I think throughout the entire game, maybe like one more play for actually that was it.
Yeah, beautiful play. The question is, can Na'Vi, of course, recreate this because maybe it was a little bit heavy on the on the drafting side.
And you know there were also situations where Navierre, whatever kind of maybe shocked for example Niku like
But I can't curse on him. I realize it's like F. I'm dead. Yeah, the F. I'm dead
It's a nice play like they're using the Mantra from Arme to just give night vision during the moonlight shadow
And this is the one where he's like what the hell like how did I just die here?
You know in my own triangle
But the thing is we've seen it a few times on these small overplays and here the other thing
I want to mention if PMA has 200 less gold this play doesn't exist
He literally just got the agonims delivered when this play started because without his aggs
He's not gonna kill everyone in this fight like he took army out within like five seconds
And these are the moves we've seen it in the LDC is earlier to 15 to 20 minute
You cannot mess up these moves
It also shows that the amount of resources required to get a kill because of how awkward the start of the game was like you went
So deep together hospital kill. That's also the issue of house got you eventually get him and then you go
how do we actually take the secondary fight, which is inevitable, because you've wasted everything to kill him?
Yeah, Navi had a good grasp on the game, they also therefore had a good grasp on the objectives, including Roshan, and one of the first Roshan, with Navi's way.
Yeah, I just wanted to highlight the 21-minute fight, because it proves how strong Navi was, because even when Neku has the Aegis walked off and loses it straight away, and then the Naga dying, it's like, you can't really deal with the Husker heart, and like the Bruce split and the amount of chaos that Navi had.
And it's like after this team fight, I think that Navi stabilized the game really nicely.
They kept pushing the waves, they kept just kind of choking out XG in a very disciplined fashion.
And it's like Enigma died here without using Black Hole.
And I kind of felt like for the rest of the game, the Black Hole never existed.
Because like you don't have a pangor to play on.
The Luna still was chasing her damage items.
And like this was like the 80 minute fight where the Luna died because of the Brute Edge.
This fight as well where the Enigma gets caught off.
Like these were two moments that maybe could have decided the game for XG.
Where they cling on a little bit better.
but they failed those two really important fights and the game just disappears because
Navi is like, we'll send what we need to at you, but we're never over committing. They didn't go
tier 3 and dive, like we saw them early in the tournament, right? It was really, really calculated.
So how much of this game Kazoo was based on, the result was based on draft versus gameplay?
I do think that they had a way easier draft to execute, like maybe some 70-30, but at the same
time I would say that they also played better than XG, so if they have an even draft in the next
game from what I just saw, I would also give Navi the edge, just by a little bit.
I would also look towards trying to protect Armei in some way, no sorry not Armei, XM sorry,
because it's like in the draft you pick Pango to protect Armei to give him information,
he then gets a Lunar, like the generic Lunar that doesn't feel like much,
and it's like the Pango you throw to the wolves, so it's like unless Armei has like a Gotcha carry,
they might need to try and give XM a bit more priority, it's like Niku, he respectfully,
I can swear though, he is a piece of shit, all right, I, I,
I know we've we've won battle cups together. You know, we are fellow teammates. Yeah, he is absolutely terrible human
game because he's willing to pick the filthy heroes the dirty heroes to win the game, you know
It's like everybody's forgets about it. And I love Niku. I think he's a great player
But he is the type of mid laner that wants to beat the mid laner
So he's not one that's happy to go even like he's not picking boys for into ember
You know go. Thank you very much for an honest 10 minutes. He wants to obliterate you so respect it
everything's fair in the mid-lane. Exactly. In this case. Yeah, I still love Niku very much,
great little lad. That's what you just said exactly. Yeah, great. Well, let's find out if Niku can
smash mid-lane in the next game. Game 2 coming your way very soon.
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We have two teams locked into the final day at tomorrow for PG Lachia season nine.
more team can join them in that top three. It's either extreme gaming or Na'Vi and Na'Vi
is now one game up in this lower bracket match we are watching. And that was my question
to my panel because of course Na'Vi won and of course they played great. But did they
play good enough to for example beat LGD in the lower bracket finals tomorrow?
I would like to see a little bit more but I'm also lean on yes they can.
Yes, yes, yes, they can Shiva even though Niko's a piece of shit. They can't whoa
What are you?
After break, you know, we have to be certain cool down. We forget what we did before. Yeah. Yeah, but he is no entirely
No, I would like to think that the way that now we won this game
I think we've been asking a lot of the teams. Can you please win a game from like minute zero to end?
Yeah, in which no matter any
mistakes you make it never feels like the kind of momentum shifts away from you
and this game was a perfect demonstration but there was like one or two
little mistakes from the other but it never was like oh my god XG they're gonna
you know one black hole away it's just like okay cruise control so that alone
inspires me to think that they can't beat a team like LGD we will get to Yannick's
later because because from my perspective the fact that they made those
little mistakes for me is a reason to believe are they ready for LGD because
I don't feel like you can if the LGD is not that type of team that capitalise on one mistake and auto wins the game
I think we are talking about like a
high B T Lo 80 LGD with you know, Esther Yandex and this team hoping to get to the same point at all you do
You know what?
I will believe it if Navi in this game too and we will be consistent in their gameplay and will once again
Take a win here against extreme, but we know extreme is gonna adjust their their play style
They're gonna adjust their heroes as they do frequently
The question is which way are they gonna take this? How are they gonna adjust?
Yeah, I think I will be looking at Brewmaster if I'm both teams.
Like XG, we don't know the priority of what's going on when it comes to the next game,
but if you're first pick, I believe you should take the hero yourself.
If you're not first pick, you either need to completely change your approach to the hero or ban it out.
It looked way too good and I have not yet seen like a really clear cut answer to the hero.
Obviously, heroes like Doom are very good, but this hero is also nearly perma-banned in most games.
But you can also give, you know, fair play to XG.
You know, coming into this draft,
Na'Vi randomly go into the Brewmaster,
but they haven't first-faced it in any of the drafts so far at Valahia.
Of course, other teams have been respecting it and reminding everyone,
hey, look at this hero.
Of course, XG themselves are the Brewmaster team,
so clearly it's some pretty good prep from Na'Vi to demonstrate it,
but you can't get caught off guard from prep anymore.
You know the heroes of the tournament,
and it does kind of feel like XG wasn't ready for the first pick,
brewmaster and at the draw for grass they still never found an answer which is shocking when you are a brewmaster team
Exactly because zeal is literally said that's my signature hero. So you should know then
What counters is maybe maybe they thought enigma was uh, what's the answer?
Yeah, like the problem with the enigma is that like now both things have this hero they want to play through
I think like then when the husker 18 came out it kind of
Ultimately blocked this hero as well now you have to go mid and then still you have the mid pango that has to go to the
often he gets on so I think now you just try to play a new game I would be
interested to see if they do want to give up the brew and go for a different
answer because after what I've seen I personally wouldn't be surprised if they
just want to ban it. The monitor is no longer set to yellow it's no longer in
sync with the rest of the on the background. Oh no that's breathe. But luckily it's in the middle so it's like
oh then it balances out. Yeah there's no balance for actually that's okay. Yeah okay that does.
And we can ask Pan over and check the other team because maybe if they still have it then
it's a style choice to remind us how cool the monitors are that the players are using
here at PGL here.
I do say it's been one of the things that I realized a little bit about.
Oh, ruined.
No, this is fine.
We are ready for the middle monitor.
Yep, blue.
Okay, blue.
Good point.
Come on, Niku.
Niku.
Yeah.
We gotta fix it.
We'll fix it.
We'll fix it in post.
How low is that monitor?
Sorry.
Hold on.
Yeah, but CY is not playing.
No, but Riddies is.
I mean, it's not like I'm
not going to be able to do
anything. I mean, it's the
really is better be yielding
how ready she's sitting. He's
so slouching. Is that for
load? Is that he's like that
once he has played that
plays like lame down in his
chair. Yeah I've never seen
the one to slow before in
Dota. Okay So let's see what's
coming away. Draft is alive. We
got extreme gaming on the
radiant side again and
Navi on the dire side again
and now we once again with
first picks. That's exactly
the same in terms of bands.
ever moved by Navi. So we're 100% so far the same.
Wextalks are in Ember, where the two bonds that a stream went for in this position.
The question is, are you going to let either of them through to ban, ooh, they banned the
Huskar. Cool. So at least Ember or Wextalks are in there.
I think you have to. And maybe Brew.
I would say you kind of have to, you're in a bit of a problem now, because if you do
want to ban Brew, then I think you're leaving a pretty strong Ember in the pool. There's
no Slark and no Hascar against that. So obviously, yeah, they've got some choices to make here if you're ex-G.
Picture boys and...
But then if it is like an Ember on 8, then you still have like Lina's and
DK's and just generic heroes that can just play the match up.
Wow. Riddies must feel pretty good. Now, which Doctor is the hero is obviously an abysmal win rate.
Riddies, though, he has won with it several times and he still gets priority on the first one over the Ember spirit.
Pretty cool. Him and Malady are kind of goading on the witch doctor in their games, that's for sure
Even between the two players like Malady's going for like tanky items front lining. I press hill come kill me
Of course, that will do it sometimes. They do go back for the brain master. Why would you not pick ember spirit if you're extreme?
It's okay. So the only reason why you could look at something else is that if you feel like you need you needed the life-sealer or the weaver or something else
Okay, they will go for the ember. So yeah, you get a draft of you there, but I still need to see them adjust to the brewmaster on
Other heroes and other roles and what was it the bands last time it was like we've a spin was it we've a lifestyler
We've a lifestyler was it last phase the bands then yeah, maybe you could look at the the bands from Navi and think okay
Is there a way that you can slot in any of those heroes earlier?
But of course the way they actually drafting with mid already getting picked
They might because the Vami for last pick once more
Yeah, I don't know if I would like that because like you see your matchup
Yeah, so like at least strategically you should look to pick your carry
But I could see the 1617 where it's like double support pick. Sorry 13 pick support
Then you do like Sven plus one you're finding it's the brew you then give a bit more information for your off lane
To try and counter got the juice like giving like I think got the juice these before today
His carry performance was a little hit or miss but now today is there's another level
He's super comfortable with what he's doing.
There's a couple of heroes I'll be looking at now, if you're ex-G.
So, first of all, if you want to look into blue counters, I think Sven is decent.
And I think there's also heroes from supports like maybe some disruptors.
Or the Weaver!
True. That one's gonna be in the poll.
But Honnavi was worried about?
Let's say they're looking for Sven, then I think ex-G here need to ban a hero like TB.
If they're looking for, let's say they want to do like some Weaver Grimstroke.
Be super cute and do that.
Double log?
You can look to like maybe ban faceless void and you will get a little bit of info and also like Navi
I think seeing an ember spirit like this. There will be no problem if they're going for like a DK themselves
I think in this type of phase
So they are gonna bring a bit more fight to the safe lane cause that's all
We know we see what it does in any game it plays
That will be up to fight brimo so the premise that's such an easy time last time so
You can always the extra change that pace
I'm a play nature profit this morning. You think they'll go for the dazzle profit
makes they could they could again with like based on the conversation of profit in the last draft
nature profit into brew is a little uncomfortable because you never kill him he presses split
but if the lane is so free the army's top net worth and has item advantage
you might still take it no matter what just get a cheap willow you know just great hero always good
good offline duo lane again you're one of the better heroes also against ember at least if he
he slides you can always set him up with the Bramble. It's also maybe why Navi didn't
rush to pick up the Ember, because now we have two heroes that survive Ember's initiation,
both of them can easily take one or two remnants, and that alone is kind of a win against Ember
in the early game. It would be nice if they go for another support that has some type
of sustainability built into him. Winter Wyvern I think is something that could work. Set
him up, you knock him down. Because like I think also overall like playing
Brew with some type of defensiveness behind you is nice because you kind of need to burst
this guy. If you start a fight on Brew and you don't kill him now he splits you generally
will lose most of the fights. Otherwise you know maybe really say something else in the
pool. It's like the Wyvern or the Undying. The problem there is like both of them secure
the save lane but you aren't really picking up support lockdown to try and rotate and
kill the Ember with. You'll put a bit more emphasis on Niko to do that.
into their bonus time quite a bit here, but the Winter Wyvern you will come out as expected.
Yeah, I think also not just to like help the brew to like keep him alive,
generally when you play against brew you need to play heroes with BKB,
so just having some form of lockdown I think is also quite nice.
It also stops the like the Sven pick potentially here, just because of the Embrace.
And I don't think Na'Vi care at all about like PL right now, because like if you're picking PL
And there's still two more picks on the line. Yeah, you even lose you lose, right, sir. Oh my god
And you guys repeat the last sentence again, no, we got a clip actually we have the highlight from production they just can copy
I really
Why do you lose?
Well, p.l. Is like it's like the equivalent of like a ck where it's like when you have p.l.
You have such important item timings that any offlane that disrupts it can hurt you
Luckily though for XG, the first two heroes are very bad against PL, but I would like to think Nabi will auto go for two
Very very strong heroes that can deal with illusions and protect their supports basically
Well, the only thing that they did at least is that they banned lifestealer
That's like one of the best carry matchups. You can always go radians
We don't really care too much about illusions that Necro is in the pool
It's got a juice place Necro. Please pick it and go collect your free win. It's like insanely good also with Necro
It's good against Ember. It's good against Azzel
Like generally the rule how it goes with PL, PL can be bad against one hero
Usually because you can also cover the one counter you play against because well you have teammates guys if you take out this guy
My illusions will will be a okay
You already brew is already considered good against PL and obviously you're picking it into two blind matchups
So you will play
Three bad core matchups. The reason why I said PL is kind of good against faster
Here is the at least for Navi is the fact that in really low fights
You will survive through the Bruce that show the brew we have to find the correct PL
but then you also get to go well you didn't kill me unless you have big jump
they have up to go for the answer so maybe if you fury swipe up the correct PL
you keep chasing him down but is that is that a fitting into the line of heroes
we want to have to protect the supports sure I think it's good enough it's also
great against PL you doppelganger you don't care fury swipes will stay on you
you will always see the real one you're playing with good tempo again PMA played
great in game one he will play great in game two there's nothing stopping him
either you know it's not like they adjusted to we're gonna storm this
brewmaster in lane again if if I play brew against PL I'll do fine if this is
PMA he will do great in this lane yeah again the earth to pick up as well it's
like it stops actually finding a survivable offlaner like I think fact
you that you need the like and the enigma the beast I mean if Vizag had
any sign of life like you need that type of offlaner to just buy time so
preemptively going for the yeah I mean that's the type of hero you want but
You need to shut down these heroes, because the armor is going to need an easier game.
Maybe you can even ban Viper if you're Na'Vi. I don't know if this is the type of hero that he would shine on,
but anything that slows down, like got the juice in this game, is what you should be looking for.
I want to see Zill really go for a lane counter. If you just go for off-lane blob,
Earth is already covered you, and you're not going to get to play any Dota pretty much.
You know what does Niko want?
Because he's obviously a bit of a wild card.
It's nice if your hero deals with the PL. I don't think he has to,
but it's a good help. And they ban all the Viper.
Is the... Oh, never mind.
Never mind.
Never mind.
What's so good against the... I mean, because at the start of the tournament,
we saw a lot of ODs coming out, and that hero is kind of a vanished.
Yeah, I think that hero is a bit of a bait.
It turns out that it's maybe not as good. Maybe it was a bit overhyped. It's also quite bad into the PL
You would you know destroy the ember so you would get that but overall for your draft
I think it would be nice if you maybe find some maybe not a guy that like goes in
Sanking pango, I don't know what else is in like Niko's wheelhouse that he really loves like in this type of matchup
They ban on Largo. They're respecting his Largo mid or are we I don't know we're having something mid that we have an awesome
I think they are just respecting the Lager in mid where it's like ember walks up
You can't flameguard and for xg their entire draft is built on xm doing well
And then finding a different off-lane pick if mid or off-lane for xg
Struggles and it's a one-course show for the first 15
There will be problems. Yeah
Intel army of course has
Three four items and gets to play his fight
That's a monkey. Yeah
We're gonna try to shut down the ember with a monkey king. We saw cheer junior
showcase what monkey can't do into ember and I've been liking this more there's a
lot more drafts in the last couple days where multiple cores want to do the
same thing like they're strong around the same timing so they all want to do
the same thing and they make each other strong like imagine a monkey king going
to a brewmaster lane at minute seven or eight you're conceding this lane you're
not fighting into that a monkey king running to an Ursa who likely will have
a good lane as well unless they here find a good matchup like you just have
multiple cores that all benefit from something similar and if you're xg you
need time and again then you're like kind of relying on our Navi playing well
are they giving me the space because from what I see now you don't deserve any
space on this map unless you nail this last pick yeah it's a lot of pressure on
the amount of screen zeal has one hero that hopefully solves all the problems
that extreme gaming is facing right now yeah it's enough that you want to play
through where also the supports feel like we're taking sort of ruins giving
ember a game then you get to go take a fight and all right if it's that is I
back rider if we went like a year or two ago I'd be like wow oh my god is the
best back game ever of course that has gone up and down through nerfs and
whatnot but and very down and yes yes if you just consider okay the damage is
not lower but on paper into the monkey into the ursa it does give you something
to play through I really kind of feel like XG they just went for zeal you
might not be like zero death type game but all you have to do is be as noisy as
possible. Please force every rotation to you. It doesn't matter if you die, Arme will eventually
carry you. What do you want to play? And I think I just gave him whatever he pulled for. So the
laning is so, so important for Zeal. But will Arme eventually carry it? Because we've been
saying that Navi has answers to the Phantom Lancer, or will there be a tipping point?
Yeah, so eventually maybe he can't, but it's not even like that free of appeal game. Like Ursa
is always good against PL, sure when you get like four or five items and you have hard and you can
kite around maybe some butterfly you have your shard, okay sure but when I look at XG's draft
it goes a lot of the concepts that I consider to be good about drafting, so I cannot like that draft,
I do not like it. Yeah I mean the thing with XG is like if you do get to a time where it's like
man to X maybe the Orchid on the PL, if Ursa is really delayed with like only battle theory blink
plus one at that time the Orchid is very valuable against Ursa, I am just worried that you have
picked up P.O. so early in a draft, given options for Narvi to try and exploit.
But in fairness, when you look at XG, they have the 4-Protect-1 philosophy that has carried them before.
Narvi just has the easier kind of the draft plays itself.
Yeah, XG needs some good as hell gameplay.
Well, if enough people hit the like button on YouTube right now,
yeah, go do it.
That's enough, that's great. Now we get to talk to CY.
Thank you very much. Yeah, and I'm gonna see why extreme picked PL. I mean, what was that about?
I don't know. Oh, maybe the double gang are into shadow wave shadow weaver. What is called like the
heelspell giga combo. I don't know. It does. I don't see it on. All right. Well, I mean,
it's what you're playing against to be obviously think you guys have good answers for it. Right.
I think we have finances. Yeah, like I think I hope rule will have a good game of all and you
will get some radiance maybe in a good timing. It's not like a full counter to PL these days,
But like for some time it can be not bad. It helps a bit monkey in some ways can be good to be honest
Like you showed a real one when you're bound to strike and you can like run him down in some cases
It depends a bit on context and also is good. So yeah, I think we have something
Seems good across the board really but you know, it's been a long day for you guys and extreme
So how the energy levels, you know, it's just where the young zoomers come into their own and you know, I'm absolutely fine with this
Yeah, I would say so like I don't feel at all that the energy is down
I think if it was on GG, like what was like the oldest team in the pro scene probably like everybody would be like ready to go to sleep
You know, that's what by itself. How you holding that punk? I'm good. I'm good. Very good. Nice to hear it
All right, let's get into a game number two of Navi versus extreme gaming with OD pixel and fucked
There we go ladies and gentlemen the D game two time the switch ups being made the brew gets left in
It seems like that's not what XG decided is the problem. They do might get themselves the Dazzle, right?
That's another one of the heroes who we're gonna
Considered to be focused pretty heavily these get folks pretty heavily right now as
A blood grenade on his grave it was just a Bm blood grenade that
They did okay, so now be a lot of counterpicks they've gone for here, right?
They get their brewmaster, PMA, incredible on it, and this time, as they said, I was checking to see immediately too right before he even said it.
If there is going to be an adaptation of the build, it is, right?
The Radiance for the brew, going to be looking to counteract versus that PL.
And then the counterpicks.
So he even said it a little bit to himself, to see why you shouldn't be leaking those things, but either way, there's definitely reasonings why they went for the Ursa and the Monkey King versus the PL.
Both of these abilities, they do reveal the real PL.
Ursa, the Fury, Swipe 2nd coming to play, plus the Jingu, if you do get the connection onto them, which naturally comes in,
Bound the strike, we'll do it, and then the shard, if I'm not mistaken, from Ursa.
It applies Fiery Swike Stacks on your Q, so you'll actually know, even if he downpoles, which one the real one is.
So, there's definitely some ways to play a versus that PL pretty nicely here, with what they've gone for.
They're liking the approach, let's just see how these lanes do end up going,
because I do think the Navi have set themselves up to look very good.
And quite a bit of them, it's just, how is Zyogun end up looking as a Bat Rider?
It's a risky one.
Yeah, because what's up with the Bat right now? You like him Bat, or...
Not really.
No.
No, it definitely feels like he's on the weaker end of things, but if there's any game, right, in the past, when we used to see Batrider versus Monkey King and Ursa on paper, it used to be amazing.
It's just what's it actually like nowadays?
Yeah, because it's just a question, right, if you can actually do enough damage early on, especially the lane, right, you've kind of had enough of the stacks, and they've got sticks at the ready.
If you don't do enough to offset the burst heals that they're getting with those stick charges, it feels kind of rough.
It's just a specialist here, right? I think, I think we say it every time, nobody can play this hero lately in the offlane, except for Whisper, right?
It's very rare that we do see anybody else kind of make it look good, so...
Zeal, you've got your work cut out for you, and on paper, versus the Ursa and the MK, can see the benefits for it.
When I'm looking at things of them not allowing Bruce Split to ever get off though, I feel like Bruce Split is always gonna get off this game, right?
They do not have burst damage, they don't have silences, lack of control.
Lasso and a telekinesis, that's about it.
Yeah, it's definitely a bit underwhelming on that front.
At the moment though, in terms of CS, they are owning the lane stuff.
Two only, I believe, for the Brewmaster on the bottom side, so Dazzle is doing his job as we've seen a lot of these games.
Dazzle's been looking really good.
In mid lane.
We've seen this one a couple times before.
That Monkey King can absolutely take advantage of a number spirit.
Pretty hard, but it is a volatile hero.
So if you make too many mistakes, you can't fall off pretty hard as the MK.
It's been a good alright so far in the match at Baxam, but that doesn't get easy yet.
This is when it becomes the less impossible.
If Eniku just controls the wave positioning which he is and he gets the boots which he does,
and you just play off the level 2 Jingu,
very hard to do much of anything there as Emperor besides just wave dragging with your boots.
As you do see Axem,
maybe he's gonna go for something a bit tricky, so Axem has actually brought himself a blood grenade in the mid lane.
So looking to maybe catch Eniku off guard a bit here.
Let's get to the hop, but he's still got the ginten to play with.
He had the ball and this didn't get baited.
Oh, next time now, play...
Mop-a-dead?
Yeah.
He tried to go for an outplay, but actually, he played himself a little bit there.
This can be pretty rough, because we've seen these embers.
If you don't have a lane, like when you get slarked, you don't have a game.
So let's see how he does end up recovering with things here, because Niku is going to
have a full level advantage now.
And that's also one of the red downsides of the Ember as well.
As we've seen in the past, you do not want to switch the lane up and take that Ember
to a side lane.
You go to the jungle.
You have to kind of just suck it up and get what you can from the mid-match up.
So I feel now for gays, what you can actually do in the real big bully is if you can leave
the bottom lane at all for PMA, you go toward where the Ember is and you just literally
never even let him jungle.
I've seen a lot of these four players do that if they do end up having their off-laner have a good position
And I think PMA now at this point
He's gotten away with things the lane's pushing out into him. So I'd like to see Daisy then put more pressure
They didn't ward the camps know where the ember is just to be shown it out. It's that he'll kill the bokeh
Nice little free man
As you can see it just in case Niku tries to dive okay
going for the play. This ain't gonna work.
Is he lacking on the manner for the chains? I think he was
slightly there unable to get the connection.
Got the water in but yeah still without the the money for the ball so.
See he'll still do pretty good top up
20 and 3 but overall I'm curious to see how back plays if he doesn't just get
kills in the lane.
I think that's where he usually ends up having that big power is that he just
Dominates the lane and snowballs with it
Top they're looking for the kill should be able to have him
I can get back up coming in I say that he might turn and kill zeal he nearly does
And see you survive only just thank you
Walking up pretty far forward that he'll be okay
I've ready his two points in the queue and none in the splinter blast won't be able to get the exchange
Okay, nice. I do want to see them play around zealot too. Don't really just let him get shut down
We want to be able to give this guy extra kills. Daze, we are seeing him do, doing what we were talking about
The willow is invading. Hexen is not able to jungle now at this point either
Very piss pesky willow play
They stole a couple of the mud golems. Won't be able to steal the rest of it here
Looking for the power of Rune though, he'll be able to ensure that one for Neku.
Not an amazing rune.
The next end.
The look for the kill.
He's got the setup, Neku closes in on him.
I've seen this so many times for these embers.
The floor position just walks over when he has this type of dominant mid like a Slark or an MK.
Really shut him down.
A 2K lead off of these lanes already.
Set XG is going to have to do something to fix these lanes, but this is not working so far here, nothing to kill.
Turn it up to the mid.
Uh-oh. This could quickly be the Niku show.
And the Monkey King game, it doesn't look like a bad Monkey King game overall when you look at it.
It looks like a pretty damn good one when he's been able to slot it in first and ember last pick and versus these heroes.
Because again, there's just not a lot that's gonna be stopping him from just being able to get the attacks off build up the Jingu
They've got two stuns and ones in ultimate. Sure you've got searing chance to play a little bit with but
Wisdom rune also now getting contested zeal. They're gonna get both for it
Nice knockdown, but he might actually die for that
Let's target it. Oh my goodness. Another one for Niko. Okay, not a nice knockdown. Just kidding
Nobby speedrunning the series
They've had some trip-ups in some of these games, but this series in particular just
fall out of aggression.
Last game, XG were able to have a bit of a chance because they were able to dodge kind
of like Niku's Huskar having a matchup that he can completely dominate.
This time round they're not able to dodge it.
Niku is getting this matchup, which is completely taking over.
And overall the position where they picked the PL, it wasn't like a last pick PL by any
means right now they just slapped it out there in that third well not the
easiest for him by any means when he's playing versus some of these counters
and seal at this point I'm super slow down in the game and he's lost his stacks
Niku level eight already at this point
Rubik and Basil when you're behind versus Smoky King too if he gets a death
though you can start to get to one-shot territories very early not the easiest
to play by any means, Amé.
Been looking for him.
He actually lands the real one ends up landing into it all,
and they know.
They know.
Straight over to Wardson.
Amé can't be saved, Baboka's in trouble.
This game's gonna be quick.
Steam rolling through them,
brew overall even without radiance,
it's good versus PL,
you can just clear the illusions with your dispel magic.
They're playing this to perfection so far here.
and PL not really the playmaker right that's the issue where they don't have support playmakers
so much that are independent playmakers right you want it like rubik overall you rely on
your other cores having a decent game dazzle you especially rely on cores more than anything
and the embers so it's like zeal you got to do so much in this game and it's not really
that easy of a hero to do so on at this point in the game or in the meta I should say in
in general, even though on paper versus Erson Monkey King used to be good, this hero just
doesn't feel like it anymore.
Alright, well I gotta do something to have her just bleeding, but it's a pressure on
all lanes and this Erson's gonna have just a free battle fury, while Amé is not gonna
have free timings.
And where's the best chance of making a play?
It's gotta just be as like five heroes, four heroes, right?
You just let the PL play on himself and then you just play with XM and rotate with the
two supports plus maybe even a Batrider.
You've got to do something like that and you have to punish Niku.
I think when Niku goes for another aggressive play, you have to be there with the four heroes
to counteract them.
Losing on the two Wisdoms, their supports are also extremely limited.
Dave's already level six.
He can just terrorize them if they go for the play.
It's tough.
It's definitely a tough mountain to climb here for the next five to ten minutes or
so for XG. In zeal, they see him. He's just gonna be on the money for this tower, at least
need good to get that best of timing. It's gonna be one of the quicker ones you'll see
on a monkey cake. And besides just the support speaks, they're actually all squishy. PL is
They're tanky hero, that is not a good sign when your PL is your tankiest.
It's bound to strike, it's going to be pretty brutal, except I might need to get caught by days here, I actually immediately have to jump away.
They can't go near the monkey kid, they can't go near the brood.
So they got a farm and they're already 5k behind versus a battle theory lineup and the lineup definitely looks pretty good versus PL on paper.
It's going to be a tough one for the moon.
There's just no moves they can make.
There's like that, so done.
They're going to bring the squad.
Curses comes out.
Countless will miss.
They are rotating four over though, so they're trying to punish their even bringing Amé.
Okay.
They collaborate to jump away with the Prime of Spring and they don't have the catch.
Oh man, a desperate move right? They bring five heroes. Maybe we can...
Oh, he walked away. And here he comes back.
Bound the strike back at the ready. Stalkiname.
Triple cores free farming. Supports playing around their strong monkey king with the deso.
We'll get the stacks to continue, Ginkyu will be able to get that one and he has at least
found the six, so they do have Spellsteal, so maybe the Spell that he gets could be the
thing that allows him to turn into some of these fights, but damage definitely quite
limited for them right now, that's him.
Every time he steps up, if he gets tripped up by Dark Willow, that's a decent steal.
Not a damaging steal, but a positioning steal, Friggin' Q.
I can give some info, it might get a bit harder for Narva to get the jump on them.
Mobile around the map too, so they can be in a good spot to at least try to defend some
of the moves that come out here.
There's that Fury though.
Already a 1300 against the PL.
A decent map versus the PL in the early game too if he's able to keep himself out this
momentum.
Oh, XM!
the most money they've gotten yet but okay randomness now and they're able to
farm the ancient stack too so I'm getting what's you on the way to the
blink dagger he's halfway there that's so stuck acquired and the problem to for
bad is the other thing about the nurses you can't farm ancient stacks playing
this year recently and you even with 20 napalm stacks you just don't really
clear the Black Dragons or some of the other ones pretty well. Radiance soon for PMA too.
More and more of these answers of course for the Phantom Lancer. There's Ultericos getting
in same timings. Crazy time of the death of the Monkey King on the battle here for the
air set and soon to be the Radiance for the brew all three of them. And Ember is, I really
do feel like I've not, I think we talked about the other day too right, Ember vs Swarm I haven't
seen it with, and this is like a kind of similar type of counter.
In the mid-zeal, I was trying to get a grab here, I'll have to use the last shot.
We'll get them at kill.
We'll get the second kill here, XG.
It's something.
Looks like they should be able to disengage as well, plus get the double stacks, but the wisdom
on scan, it's gonna get stolen.
Yeah, you're not stopping this earth from taking that.
that. Double whisms, I think the supports are just getting nothing on the side. XG, the look for days.
He's got the fear. Uh-oh, and XG now. He's gonna look it down and allow the juice to get in on top
of it. They do have the shallow grave. Heal it up, XG. It'll be enough to land to ram them out.
Still they're losing Paboka. It's the one for one. Here comes Niku from the back. He's got the Jingu.
Yes, he'll not be able to go. Forgot the juice. Now Zile's in trouble.
This can't take these trades, despite our heart they try here, XG.
I think we're going to see more approaches of this, you know, we've seen Yandex do it
now a couple times too, the Monkey Kings, the Slarks, versus these Embers, these Embers
need to be more protected.
The recovery of this hero is quite grim to watch.
You can see they're desperately trying to make these moves around, but every single
time they do get one thing it ends up going horribly to the enemy.
What if you can sort of combo it with the draft where you have an off-laner that what kind of level 3 level 4 is gonna be self-sufficient?
So the position 4 can can do as you wanted to see him do and just head over to that recovery spot that the embers already
Struggling it and it feels like this happens almost every game though, right?
Because even if the off-laner is not so obviously they just go to the you know
They go to those camps the two camps that they just far up there and then they wait to come back afterwards after the forb destroys the midlaner even more
Yeah, the approach just seems
Incredibly strong, look at Niku.
I'm trying to set up with some vision here as he disguises the curry up.
He's so good at Monson King, honestly, watching him play.
They're gonna find our man.
They'll try and duffel out of this, and they'll see him.
They know which one the real one is right away.
And Niku, he really abuses Mischief a lot.
Watching him play, just walking under towers with it, using the increased movement speed to get on top of people.
top of people. One of his best heroes, look at that 10 decimal snack, it's only 15 minutes
in. He is matching the farm as his battle theory Ursa with just pacing. Very impressive
to see. I think for a couple of the games we need you, Navi, had some slip ups but today,
looking like one of their best showings. As it needs to be for many of these teams,
if any of them do hope to go the distance and threaten Yandex in the Grand Finals, we've
got to see the remaining teams left and step it up.
They got to level up quite a lot to be able to deal with that.
PMA Radiance has done level 12.
This game's out of control.
That's going to be that.
They've even finished days.
They're still alive there, days.
They will.
Finally die.
All my selling lose here is in return.
Illusion Q.
Hezlvoka, farewell.
More stacks here on the desktop.
14 stacks, but XM, I think they saw the boulder chasing me like, where the hell is XM?
I had a pretty deep random, on the obvious side of the map.
They do draw the circle on it, so it got the juice.
He is aware of the position of where it was, but they don't even care about it.
They can just go straight for the rush, the power of the Ursa.
Happy to see this hero getting played more, even just from this, I mean, I say small buff,
but there's a pretty big one getting like four or five damage if I want it.
It's looking pretty good.
Especially if you're given this type of opportunity to pick it.
And Batrider are definitely looking still to have some struggles.
So you'll try to pick a Batrider.
What do you think has been the appeal at the bat that sort of caused some of these teams to go?
Wait a minute! Let's pick a Batrider!
I don't know, I'll be honest. This game, it's like on paper, your versus Ursa, your versus Monkey King, your versus Colder.
But you think it's kind of old ideas?
Yes, it's an old idea that used to work nowadays. I have not seen it really work in that same manner
Except for whisper. He's like the only one that can make it work, and I still haven't seen that in a while
Full BKB now picked up
So gets the BKB off nothing to follow up on the lasso because of that
He's got boundless. You can fall he'll offer me now clean up the bokeh
And so, got the GCS in on all of them! He just kills it!
So that was going to be a pretty quick game. Feels like it is quite over already at this point, but they're going to hang on, of course, XG.
Losing tier 2s, losing full map control too, though.
And it's tough to see where it's going to get. Quite nice here for them.
GQ.
Niko's just ready to dive in with the Colossus.
They're ready to start.
Building up the kills, cursing at the fair, a grave.
We'll save him.
And Sam can jump out this time.
They do survive, but in terms of fighting back.
Yeah, we've had quite a couple of 19 mini-games.
This one does feel like a similar one.
Oh, jumping again.
He's in.
He's got the Bastion done.
Straight him with that Bastion reveal.
Cleans up XM and he nearly cleans up army the fact that Will isn't as a duo as Nico finishes him off with a boundless
I think they could call it at any moment here
Tough one here no xg a bit of a rough way to go out. Yeah
Giving PMA the brewmaster though to right
They gave them so much Navi just very genius drafting coming in today
there's actually just no hope really for xj yeah I mean I'm whilst we sort of
definitely what xg felt was the bigger issue from the last game right taking
the the dazzle away from Navi yes but maybe the the bruise should have been
prioritized over that sort of idea and as it's gonna be interesting to see for
what LGD and potentially and next to the up to teams left in the competition
when they go up against Navi is now we move forward on this low bracket what
they decide are kind of the bigger deals when it comes to taking away Navi's play style from them.
I would, I would 100% be Navi's brew. Do you think the brew is?
Yeah, I mean, PMA, he has like these, like three of four of his heroes just are so insane.
His brew, his axe, and uh, forgetting one of the other ones right now, but yeah, he does do this
sometimes when he just finds his key hero and runs the show. I mean, last time he literally ran the
show almost by himself, this one, sure he's had the assistance with Niku just popping off, but
but just looks beautiful.
It's a well designed, well oiled machine
as you're seeing this time from Navi.
Everything hitting.
And what's wild is we have seen Navi
also lose the games in 18 minutes too, the M-Dex.
So it's some rock-n-paper-scissors
coming in between these teams.
Is he cute?
Or get graved?
He might be okay.
Niku, go get him with the foul.
This has got pretty deep for this.
Getting a core in the last shot, the curse is down, he could ever get the Wukong's command off the 3 of XG Core in the ult.
And Daze, I'm gonna bring Splink up into the high ground and clean up further kills, they will lose Niko!
NXM gets a guard like...
At least able to get something, but Armei turning up and dying instantly, yet again.
Yeah, I don't know why I said rock paper scissors actually because nobody's been able to beat the index, but you know what I mean anyway, is these teams, they're very good at playing versus each other, they do get these type of draft advantages.
I got the juices monstrous, 15,000 net worth.
I mean, we're seeing some of these versus games really work out right for a carry that...
I don't think people kind of expected to see it turn up and get this level of performance.
No. 20 seconds left on Aegis.
Iboka, oh my god, be careful. He'll be alright.
I mean, as that Aegis expires, he's gonna have to BKB coming out, got the juice.
Manta now for PMA didn't even have to go for the agonims this game with how much
he's been able to do because level 18 as well. Now besides the gold
ladies the level is too right level 18 Ursa level 18 Brewmaster it's only 22
minutes in truly decimating the map.
I'll be. And this was the case in the last game. Can kind of do what they want now.
Yep, they're chilling. Anyone who steps outside they can hunt, can even dive them into the
base if they do see fit. But likely, should just wait for maybe, wait for them to fight
to come to them before they go full all out into the base. They do have their BKBs though,
So they might just dive it even.
So looking at Niku's pickup, he actually
buys Blink, something you don't see on Monkey King
almost ever.
A Blink thing.
So truly saying how aggressive he wants to be.
Yeah, he's having a bit of fun, really, isn't he?
Yeah, I mean, I could buy the shard.
I was going to say, Shal, it's kind of the replacement for that.
But obviously, you guys dial points if you buy the Blink.
Yeah, you can mischief dodge something,
the damage, and then Blink out or something fancy, right?
He's all about it.
Zeal.
We'll get some protection at least, but nobody's farming on poor XG right now
Look at XM, hitting the mud golems on the top side
The poor soul, Arme, trying to find farm, got the juice, he wants blood
Oh, he knows, he sees him, they've got that sentry now, he's gonna get bashed
Arme, he's killed off by got the juice solo, he can't even step outside
They're getting nothing.
Perhaps a final smoker on.
The last time that the curse hits there,
allows PMA to easily get the split off.
And with that, Navi are going to clean up XG
in their entirety, get the Team White.
My rampage, unfortunately, I've got the juice, just an ultra kill.
But he'll take it, and they'll take the game.
And the series GG is called.
Navi 2-0 here, and this game too,
to another one of those stumps we've had a few of those through this tournament and as I say well
we need to see some of these teams getting up stomps like this going if they want to stand a chance
against Shandex down the line. Na'Vi they do it well today. Just look at the total mismatch for XG,
Na'Vi just everything across the board they look good and yeah I'm looking forward to see if they
can keep these type of plays up right that's how we need to see from them the consistency. Yeah
absolutely the dirt here today 2-0 against XG as Navi move on
It turned out to be a 24 minute game, but to be honest it could have easily been a 15 minute game. This was a
Trocious for extreme gaming and really good for Navi
I want to focus mostly on the good part obviously a very positive person as I am but this was I mean
I guess you already said it from the get-go that this was an out draft
Yeah, I just don't like this guy has so many fans and then he does stuff like this
You can't do that like how would you expect to beat the team in the top four when you choose like one of the worst picks?
Possible so that was that because I only want to talk about the ones
I think Navi on the other hand they've been improving a lot
I think also shout out to see why the out drafting game one
I think you know where they bust out of room. So you have the dazzle combo you go for the house for an 18
You get the Naga later
They're doing everything great and also how they're playing and overall picking their cores to be strong at the same time
I love to see that so now the super deserving win and I think they have a great shot tomorrow
Yeah, this this definitely proved to me as well that the okay the the consistency is there the domination is there and
LGV definitely has something to prepare for maybe first of all
consider
The brewmaster. Yeah, I think of course
I mean as time progressed now we had corrected these heroes are unique to them
Of course other teams were copying the witch doctor, but they're now very comfortable wanting to play the brewmaster
So if you are LGD tomorrow, are you respecting the witch doctor?
Are you thinking about brewmaster?
Niku's ready to whip out a husk or a monkey if you go for an ember that they're not willing to ban on navi
So the drafts are progressing and just I am happy to see that navi their creativity within Dota
It is that
It's their biggest success and also their biggest failure and right now at least today with the two series
they're drifting more towards like stable creativity. Like there's no one dying mids that can be volatile
They're not trying to overthink things. It's just like good solid draft that makes the opponent overthink their own draft.
Yeah, and it speaking of draft, it's also been a little while since
The team drafting against Navi, they have to I mean the heroes are demanded obviously, they have to consider those
But the Kaz and me and Voker will first face Vand in all the series that Navi played today
Because Niko placed them to such a high level, that is another thing to consider is to pick your poison style.
That could be something that we'll see tomorrow against OGD.
I could see me with the Keds getting let through, and then suddenly you have like,
Tsu-Wu having good answers to the mid lane, and then you find an off lane through device accidently,
but I'm getting a bit carried away.
I do want to touch on the fact that XG, to add context to Keds frustration, our frustration,
is picking PL openly in any phase of Dota is like just a sin.
Like you do not do it. It's as bad as picking CK with no protection, like giving away Tidehunter for example against it.
Like you do not do it because you want the PL to be ready to fight to be able to enter the game of confidence.
And here it didn't happen. Not only was it a PL playing into Earths from Monkey that can find the real hero,
you didn't have like the Monkey that beats up the Ember, so your Ember is going to have a difficult game.
Zeal picks up a Batrider and it's like, hmm, maybe on paper. I kind of didn't mind the idea if he won the lane, he didn't even win the lane.
So it's like, maybe it's just a mystery, we saw it earlier today, like Witt's picking Shadowfiend into Necro, you didn't win the lane, now they're trying the Batrider into Ursa, again, a year or two ago, you auto win the lane, you don't even have to play the lane, it's like the Ursa just runs away from it, but not today.
Not today, and even though PMA ends this series without dying a single time, for our MVP, it had to be the mid lane, it had to be the Monk in Iku.
Yeah, he owned, right, PMA, he got it in game one, we know his Rune Master is good, and the next you were like, you get a free game in game two as well, so we can give the MVP to someone else,
to MVP to someone else because Niko, he did great, good items, walking around, making
the life easy for everyone, and just, yeah, I think one of the easiest games that they
have played in this tournament.
He just can't get carried away though, because I think today, like, he played up against
an off laner in game one, he then also had a monkey into ember matchup in game two, and
when you're up against Tumel, you're not going to get these types of counter-matchups as easily.
When you're against Potenti Turo Jr. in the grand finals, he also will pick counter-picks
to you, and they'll make sure.
So it's like, today was good for Niko, but it only gets harder.
You cannot let him get carried away, like keep him down to earth and like prepare yourself
for tomorrow.
I think you see the interviews and I don't know if you can stop it from kind of carrying
away like that.
Yeah, he doesn't know what that is.
Hopefully.
I mean, they're in top three for a double elimination format.
It's like one of their best results that they've had in forever since it's rostered
in form.
So it's incredible for Navi, but you cannot let that get to your head because they can't
easily get to this Grand Finals.
Like on paper against LGD, they're an even team based on the Genetree.
They just have to make sure that their conversations and their kind of draft concepts don't get too crazy based on
They like use today and just perfect it
Don't don't go back to day one ago. You want to try that again? You know, you know, it didn't work on day one
But let's try it again. You have a good recipe. Please keep going
You want to quickly compare it because day one of this season of a lachia went
Deep into the night we went past midnight. It was like one or two a.m. Or something like that
We had four best of three series just like we did today and everything was a little rocky
everything was a little back and forth today. Every single series has been a
two-oak as well. I feel like that is testament to the teams just improving
and getting to know themselves a little bit better. I think it's this and also
like a bit of it's both tempo and the combination I think of like specialty
heroes that will like completely change the outcome of a game. We've seen it with
the brew, we've seen it with Hasuka multiple times today, we've seen it with
Viper at other days or Monkey King mid. You need to be ready for these plays and
it also shows that you can't just farm every game to 50 minutes because
Otherwise, then this happens to army where it's like I'm gonna pick feel you need to stop that like and other people say
In here
All the coach should say no army. I'm sure it was him. He's like guys. Give me the peel and it's like how do you do that?
You it doesn't make any sense
It deserves this like what is that two L's that can make a W. No one L and it's a big one
It's the largest L. He's ever seen. No, I mean, let's see some of the big girls come on.
Instead of having this spotlight on the course for whichever reason, let's put a spotlight on the supports.
In this case, it's days with his winners interview with no man.
Thank you, Shiva. I mean, firstly, I want to congratulate you that for a tier one LAN event, this is your best ever result.
How are you feeling about that at the moment?
I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good about this tournament. Yeah.
Well congratulations, I mean what do you put that success down to because you guys
since that game versus LGD you guys have looked unstoppable. LGD? Since that
since that series where you dropped down initially. Well actually I would like to
say that that series against LGD gave us some you know how to say like we
decided to... First of all I realized that this loss against LGD gave us a lot
of confidence in the lower bracket since we are also on the two opponents left
it's Yandex and LGD on the two teams we lost to on this tournament yeah that's
it. Excellent so you feel powered up so this series super super convincing you
know just just go back through it you know game number one how you were able
to just beat them so well. Well this series I would say that our coach CY
super-difton draft like both games we're just playing our daughter we're just
playing chill daughter no we don't need to create anything like we just play
daughter it's our strats you know felt good to play with these heroes against
their heroes especially second game like we decided to outplay us from like
they decided to outplay us from first game draft-wise but we cooked something
like if I cook something and it went well, yeah it certainly did and then game number two obviously
we had the that the PL incident was there anything in the back of your mind like oh there has to
be more to this you know maybe there's something we don't know about this hero well PL pick was a
super confident pick on 1617 I felt that maybe they know something like PL brew matchup but it
lane was super easy maybe they saw that they will destroy us in lane with dazzle PL since there
illusions in the hill but we did well online and also middle like our term solo killed the exam
nico solo killed exam and and not from lens game was super easy to play yeah yeah so we've
followed it itself um so what about yourself you know going long term now you've been there for
this team quite a while obviously but you came into a team which had already been going for a
while so how have you found it fitting in and getting back into navi and and getting back in
with these players after that long break?
Well, I would say that we had some unlocks on previous tournaments.
And this tournament, we fixed a lot.
We lost a lot together in previous season.
We didn't qualify to TI and EWC.
But we solved some problems we had.
And this tournament, we kind of were confident about our daughter, about our gameplay.
Yeah.
Great stuff.
And now, do you feel like you've shown everything
and you're going to keep on doing the same thing and hope it brings you past the finish line or is
there more in store tomorrow? Well that's what I wanted to also say that this incident in
Winner bracket against LGD gave us some confidence and I feel like we'll show LGD a new daughter
yeah and probably that was the only path to win the grand final I would say yeah. Fuck yeah dude
you. Yeah, I'm glad you're
here. I'm glad you're here.
Thank you. Thank you, dude.
Yeah, congratulations. We're
looking forward to seeing you
guys play tomorrow. You'll be
back tomorrow for the final day
of PGL. The lucky. Yeah. I love
listening to the guy talk and
of course, credit to see why he
gives that as well and credit
to LGD the series and the team
that dropped them to the lower
bracket. Learn a lot from that
Yeah, very confident.
Yeah, maybe they knew something we didn't.
They sure knew a lot in that game.
They knew nothing in that game, unfortunately, from the side of XG.
I think Xiaowei might just be giggling at home.
That's for sure.
We're in the cycle of post-Ti, he doesn't do it, then he'll reappear in two months' time.
Then there'll be some army issues.
He might be done with army after this.
But enough about XG.
I'm happy to see Na'Vi doing well.
You know, Day is also, I think, it's just nice to see the younger players around this thing,
You know that they get some W sure if you take some else there you learn from them
You get your own confidence going you place high in tournaments and then you just take the next day as a goes because today
This feels amazing for them. Yeah, very smooth sailing and you mentioned them as a lower bracket team already at the very first day
When they were knocked down at the very end of the day because it was like oh, I'm looking forward to seeing Navi's
Lower bracket run and my gosh teeguff. It's a long run. No, it is
I mean starting from the round one of course nemesis
So there's a little bit of a scare in that game one, but then since then, especially today with the back-to-back of war into XG,
they have done just exceptionally well, and I will just repeat myself.
I hope that they can just continue thinking about their own dota, don't overthink their opponent's too much,
because when they play their strategies and their concepts, they're very scary.
It's when they overthink their opponent and mind game them, and then they're throwing out weird heroes and doing this other stuff,
they look a lot weaker.
So I think today, Navi was like, this is our playbook, you play against us, and we will beat you.
Like it's very hard to do against top teams, but I really hope they can they can just carry on that energy for tomorrow
Yeah, LGD are a difficult opponent. I think for them tomorrow, but I'm full-sending Navi nation
These guys are gonna go to the grand finals against yandex still I think it's a bit of a tough one
I think I would be coping too hard if I'm gonna say oh, they're gonna do it all they have one step at a time
It's just an underdog story. It's okay. I think no matter what LGD or Navi
They both will very much be the underdog against yandex
it feels like it's 75-25 for Yandex and the Grand Finals, no matter who they play against.
So it's on both of the teams in that best of three at the start of the day to kind of prove to us
that they are ready to try and beat up a team that will probably be winning multiple tournaments
in this season, that is Yandex. Yeah, Yandex is looking very scary at the very start of Valajia.
We talked about their one roster change they made. They came top three of the two biggest
tournaments of the year and they still made a roster change. They changed their off-laner,
replace DM, put Amar in there, and we sent him from the start that this is a team that is now
stronger, which you believe in. They were already pretty darn strong. They are the final raid boss.
I don't think anybody was doubting that. We're going to find out tomorrow which one of the two
teams will face them. Any bold predictions? You don't have to be bold, actually any predictions.
Navi in Grand Finals, that's my prediction. I want to see Navi in the Grand Finals.
And I think that's the only thing that's not going to happen.
Because that's it.
It's not, it's nothing to do with my lack of hair.
It's just, I want to see an avenue for finals.
Okay.
No, that's the last standard with that.
You might have also noticed that tomorrow, the lower bracket finals, it starts an hour
later than normal.
So 11 a.m. will be the start time here in Bucharest, Romania.
Make sure you set your clock will be left a little bit before then, and of course later
that day, there is the grand finals as well with Yandex waiting in the wings.
Will it be Navi? Will it be LGD? We don't know yet and you want to find out.
So you better be back here tomorrow for more Dota 2 for Malachi Season 9.
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