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Xtreme Gaming vs. Natus Vincere - PGL Wallachia Season 9 - Lower Bracket R3
09-27-2026 · 8h 43m
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I'm a little hungry
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I'm going to try something out for the Largo and the Frost off is going to be quite annoying.
I get a stampede, maybe they want to turn it around again.
Dignum can take a full breath with the ice path as well. The Licknow into RCY. Speed, joining the party.
Get a poison put on to XM. He will do so against the Grave on himself in the meantime.
The shuttle went as well. And that is a dead XM.
The question is, what is the trade going to be? Speed is the very least RCY.
No man to speak of as Aume joins up against the Rage off RCY.
I'm sure she's going to be able to get out of this one.
Now the ice path. And that's a triple kill for Polka.
25% increase basically is a long fall on top basically everybody.
And McFlyer on top, they trying to put somebody in his cart, but it's over happening.
Very honestly trying to get out, he's going to get confirmation though.
And anyway, just doing work.
Now the pressure is applied to tomorrow. Able to force staff to the fountain though.
I could just probably just hit these buildings. They're having trouble getting skills, but I mean has many lives to burn through
First does come out at the last moment and I'm a beating a shit out of seal a bit
I'm gonna kill indeed it is to get two kills in fact
You might have money from the game.
I'll make them understand the fact that they're alive.
I'm going to recognize Anthony Heroz and set the ancient
that's life number one.
His accent completely out of bounds.
Loves the BKB.
You can't actually find these killers as easily as they thought.
Now the part of the case is coming out on the ancient.
The electric board technically the end of speed.
I'm in.
Now he's setting the ancient instead of RCY,
okay, switching it off and then he decides,
RCY, this will be the die-back for him.
And they're going to call it GG.
He already melts under the pressure as well.
And got the juices there, and his sight sent under clicks with the life break to follow.
Fiends grip in addition for the Darkseer.
That's going to be a dieback. They can finish the job.
And they will. It's an ultra kill for PMA.
Make it a rampage at 25 talent, being put to good work.
It's going to be a second lane at minimum.
I'm gonna have to start the buyback.
Mira destroyed buyback instantly in WLAS.
I'm gonna do as much burst damage as he can,
release him in the first to fall,
but WS already had half HP.
But the PKB is running out now.
The Infernal Blade's gonna keep him at bay.
Stoykoff in a lot of trouble.
He's caught off guard.
He's nowhere to go now.
He's dead at the dieback.
Poor dead now for Aurora.
Triple kill for days of all heroes.
and
He's coming in.
Should be able to get Sumel out of this.
The good cast bounces though, catching the two supports, Theo and Snake King.
Should be in trouble.
Theo's going to get hit by the corner brace.
He's taking heavy hits from the tower.
Sumel gets the kill.
Alright, they get the one for what?
Yeah, look to enable him.
Nice silences from Sumel.
The probably pretty dead chair is going to be able to turn his attention back over the wall
as the Grimm stroke gets the double.
Sumel's going to jump forward, look at the Saksa.
Might cost him his life.
With my Chirra, he's gonna get all three kills there.
Uh-oh.
Is he on the cliff?
Well, I can see Defi.
He gets to the camp.
Just catches Defi immediately.
Chirra's out to make the jump over towards the other core.
As the other core's gone, Defi will manage to get the BKP off and starts to run.
He deals a crazy amount of damage.
Oh, jump, jump, snaking.
And now, when it's looked to turn and take out Chirra, we'll succeed in doing so.
doing so, they get the coil down.
Time for it.
Holding them in position.
Heal's coming out though, keeping the index in a safe spot.
He's gonna buy back from Theo.
Devise gonna try and run back in on this.
He's gonna try and sell Malady,
but already Mars back in with the jump.
Hex to follow up, Devise out for 70.
Samel doing his best to pick up the back line.
Nice shot.
He's killed off the willow.
He's gonna jump back up and watch Malady.
Watson's gonna speak, get ready.
Samel, can he kill off Malady?
It's close.
Couple more hits, scuffs in with the AW.
We should have him here, that's the mail doing so much work.
Cheer Junior and Saks are trying to find the angle onto some mail.
They're gonna see him because he's popping.
He's gonna be able to get the phase shift off up on the high ground.
Feel the course taking him. Take him out.
Neither of the supports with the buyback sector there. Availability.
He's in damage ultimality.
Let's get to the hop, but he still got the genie and he had it with me out the boundless
didn't get baited.
Oh, next time now.
Please die.
He might be dead.
Yeah.
Oh, he knows he sees him.
They got that sentry now, and he's going to get masked.
Oh, mate.
He's killed off by got the juice, so look.
the final smoker on. Welcome Dota fans, it's good to see you here bright and
punctual for the final day of Pgelva la here season nine and it's got a great
storyline percolating under the surface which we're gonna do our best to bring
to you at home joining me the best analysts in the morning crew
Yeah, I mean obviously I think this tournament is really delivered, you know, post TI, but
like some of these teams that have swapped their rosters around or they're upcoming and
they're hungry.
I think a lot of these teams have grasped the opportunity.
Oh absolutely.
We are having a couple of stand-in situations,
that teams are still being formed as we speak,
the talk behind the backs, you know, always scheming.
That's what Dota is about to,
but he had some great games,
like another Valakia that did deliver,
and we are on the finals day.
Somehow this tournament format
just seems to be the best for generating insane Dota.
You know, it's something to do with the teams,
they get the comfort of not being in front of a crowd,
in that kind of intense land environment,
but they also get the boot camp benefits as well,
because they're all here together
and they're able to talk to each other.
They're able to figure out the meta really quickly.
Recruit each other.
Exactly.
Sometimes that synergy is there.
So you end up having these games
where people look very comfortable,
but also things are changing so rapidly
that every series is two, one and three hours.
And again, lots of critics
the double elimination former out there in the world of e-sports because new new school kids have
forgotten that just how we did everything when we first started but i mean you saw it yesterday with
the extreme result extreme looked really really good they said we're gonna go rest we're gonna go
sleep we'll see you all later and then of course navi ran all over them in in their game and you'll
never know if it's a factor it's an intangible but i i i do wonder sometimes if sort of sitting
around doing nothing between series is actually the disadvantage yeah I I think so especially
like yesterday wasn't that long of a day pretty much every single series was a 2-0 if it goes 2-1
it definitely can affect teams just sitting around waiting to play it does kind of drain you but
actually they just didn't deliver yesterday when they went back to their TI form and the gameplay
just wasn't there it was not uh let's do our matter of date as well one of the things we
like to do over here is sort of tell you how the meta is evolving. It is only a letter patch so
you know don't think this is gospel but heal is a big deal. Yeah it really is. This is something
that a lot of the teams have been abusing especially Yandex so far. In the tournament you see these
supports like the biggest one for me definitely is the razzle dazzle. He is kind of the
position five hero for me at the tournament. We've seen the combination between the
the Nature's Prophet, we've seen the Huskar with the Dazzle yesterday, the old school combo.
And it does feel like in this meta, there aren't many ways of stopping the healing from going
through because the recent changes, the Shiva's, of course, not having that component.
So basically, you need to have Spirit Whistle, which a lot of teams do have from the mid lane,
but a lot of the spells on top of that, plus Crella's Crow's Year expensive item,
but picked up very often to try to negate that healing.
I can't help but think that if other players were here, certain specialists, that we
would see Ancient Apparition.
Yes, because it's totally uncontested at this point, right and it nullifies healing
I remember previously there was another meta where Dazzle was very popular in crit started playing
Ancient apparition as a position for just to just a hard counter and then everyone picked up on it after that
The items that that's also important because you know if you're gonna heal
You'll want to heal to the best of your ability and there's a few items that
Enable that we wanted to take a look at some of these win rates
Of course it does pair with the heroes, you know something like a heart of Taras is very good on Necro
Which has by the way much higher win rate in the last couple of days
Then it does with the whole tournament which is still positive and still very good. Holy luck
It's same thing. We see lots of caudal lots of dazzle. You're gonna pick that up essence distiller
This is kind of cheating actually it's not so much of a healing
It does heal, but it's more about the vision. The vision component is what is good about it
But it's still a heal that does provide you to like keep going reset in a fight
You don't have to go back instead
You can go for objective because you will have the like more HP you don't have to necessarily
TP back straight the best just to keep that aggression and the cost I asked you is there a better feeling than the healing a tank?
Not really. I feel like we are in very tanky meta
We have been for a long time and you know coming into some of these situations these tricky
You gotta wear the protection most of the time in Dota because the others are gonna try to do stuff to you that you might not like and
These are the tanky items like we've seen I have Scotty being picked up
That's also the anti-heal item which definitely is gonna be very effective, but you've seen this like storm spirit pick it up
up, Shiva's of course being the core component for most offlaners as well.
We are seeing Lincoln's.
So having these items in a tanky meta like makes you even more tanky and more difficult
to bring down and A on this of course being one of the best ones like we are seeing even
it's an it's an every game yes pretty much yeah because they go super like him and by
the way, Lincoln's fear is silently sneaking into you know winning this tournament.
I really believe if I asked you guys, do you think Lincoln's fear is a 70% win rate
item before no seeing this would you actually think but but I'm gonna I'm
gonna tell you why it's in all the doom game oh that's true that there was that
true because of humor work yeah I was gonna say because do we've become super
popular I think we did see a game where it was falling and there's and there's
bane as well yeah a lot of the time it's like bane plus doom on one team yeah
so I think that's a factor just real quick before we take a look at the
Schedule can I ask you guys about the a on-disc on cause because I think a lot of people are home particularly those on YouTube?
They would like to know
When when as a core should you take the a on-disc over and I am but I would I would say
When you can actually use the on-core that comes from the e on disc
I you have the second life
You have a hero that is really useful with their spells and as long as you get those spells off
you're gonna win the fight. So I think Brewmaster is something we're seeing a lot on.
Yes. You just need to get the ult off. Earth Spirit, same thing. If you can just not get
stunned and killed in that stun, you can get the ult off, pop PKB, rolling, get multiple rounds of
spells off. I would say if you're hero, just needs to get their spells off. Yes, if you have
something passive that needs to be done in a team fight, this is pretty much the only way.
And even more, if you don't have any kind of saving support on the team, maybe you can
itemize like let's say you have dazzle you definitely don't need that item most of the time if you have you know any of the saving supports shadow demons
Tasks as well. Are you not gonna opt to go for that go for that item?
But if you're like single target oriented if you like die from like two spells you need to have it
All right, so stop raging at people in your pubs
This is the schedule that we've got coming up for you today. It's a real simple one
Because it is of course finals day
absolute bangers no matter what happens no matter what the outcome of LGD versus
Navi is they take on Yandex both opponents will promise an amazing
final which of course will be a best of five and just also let you guys know at
home we do show mercy on the teams we let them have an hour break so whoever
wins that best of three before the best of five they get some time off
Cinder and called it yesterday. He's a little bit under the weather. I've got a bit of a call coming on
But his brain is still working incredibly. He said he thought Nabi really could get the podium finish and it's happening for them
Yeah, that's a lot of copium considering how well Yandex are playing. I gotta be honest
I would I would give them advantage when they are gonna be playing against LGD in this serious meet-up against Yandex
I would give them like in a best of five
maybe like 25% chance it's it's not gonna be there. The momentum is going to need to go a long way. I almost think
That lgd would have a better shot in the grand finals because of the experience that they have but
Navi has a better shot versus lgd because they have the momentum and they're just a very high skill
Young team. Well, let's start talking about lgd
I think they're an interesting team if you had told me some male would ever play in a roster with divide
I'd say you were smoking something
Which you probably were but you're not and it's real
So I didn't really talk about just what an interesting lineup. They are they have got the mix
They have got the blend, you know the veteran guy that's been out there the underappreciated guy
The young and upcoming guy, the guy whose name no one remembers.
It really is an eclectic mix.
It is, and they're one of the most exciting mixes of powders in a while.
And, you know, there's all this hate train on Divide, but in reality...
But it's not like the others.
In reality, Divide, the giga-chat, he's the only person who has ever won a Wallachia on this team.
Even snaking in his big, sexy Falcons team that's always winning tournaments,
They haven't won a Wallachia. He's only got he's only gotten third and then the the dude who you know
We're kind of talking about carrying them for the whole tournament Sumail having these insane performances his best
Performance at a walkie. It's the same photo
Yeah, just looks exactly the same need to find a difference. I can't find any I can't find it
Let's talk about some mail. You know what I said yesterday
I said I in all of the games I watch from this tournament. I won't lie to everybody
I haven't watched all of them, but in all of the games I did watch, I never saw somebody lose lane.
We'll get there. We're going to get there eventually. This is a bit of a misconception.
And something that he has been doing really well is, if you check the spirits that he has been
playing with, has pretty high win rate, and then he tried to play like four or five different
heroes, the non-spirit heroes, the win rate isn't really that good. He has been
Always known as you said to be a lane dominator, but he also with these spirits voids spirit
This voids fear winner. It isn't saying by the way. Yes
He does tend to leave the land
He's also the one who kind of brought it into the meta again because coming into this la la keya people like even the prior
Ti we haven't really seen much of a voids for it
Especially because puck is not that popular of a hero
It is considered to be a puck counter, but he's still banging it out in certain matchups that
Kind of he should not be winning, but he's still doing so well. Yeah
I'm a big believer in the idea that if someone is doing something and they're winning that it is good
That it is objectively good other people can mirror it you're seeing it with yandex
Navi is using a lot of the strategies that they are using and they're using it to a high degree of
Success as well
So I think Sumail has just discovered some stuff from the void spirit that other people
Haven't and maybe part of this is the fact that he is so able to focus on
Kind of the classic laning mechanics. He's always been very very good at this these little micro movements
Where you're pulling the creeps at the right time
Sneaking in a deny and you can see that he is the number one player for creeps tonight
And the crazy thing about this is like all makes number two Watson's number three but Parker
Well, he's sneaking in brother. These are all carry players. They're leaning against goddamn. Nobody. Yeah
two males laning 1v1 against the most high-skill young players in the tournament.
They're still there and he's denying them this much.
These carries are landing against a full lane.
That's why they have denial.
And the devil remains on his shoulder.
It's he's there in shot.
It is of course my old friend.
I would call this picture called before the store.
Like if I take a screenshot right there.
Absolutely.
We did just see them before we came in.
They were looking in supreme confident fashion as they should.
I mean I think they've definitely had some flaws in this competition and I think it's
no surprise that Yandex is waiting for whoever wins this series, but I've been very impressed
with LGD considering first tournament, new roster, lots of different ideas, you know
we heard it from DeVy when we interviewed him, he said like there's a hangover from
the evil geniuses days with Smale.
There's hangover from the liquid days with Bulba.
Everyone's got all their own ideas
and we're really trying to put it into a melting pot
and make our own identity.
It's gonna take a lot of work to have that happen.
I don't believe it's gonna take like five tournaments,
but maybe one is not even enough
just because the ideas are so strong,
but you can see glimpses of greatness here.
We talked about the void spirit,
Working that in has been amazing.
This goes back to the EG days.
Divy on the off lane, like the enigma,
hitting these big black holes.
People are playing this hero around other things.
They're playing it around the summons.
They're playing it around the laning,
but he's kind of taking us back
to the olden days of enigma.
So I have a very high hopes for this team going forward.
Can they beat Navi, a young team
that has all of this momentum
while they're gonna have to step up their game
from yesterday?
as they might and that gives us a good opportunity to compare one of the key areas that of course is Somale versus Niku
That's gonna be the mid lane because this is the new up-and-comer playing against the old-school player
Even though he's still very young Somale that is he started so early
I'd kill to be as old as pretty much and if we look at the game one the last time or just a whole series when they
Were playing against each other you can see that the network at ten minutes
isn't really that much in favor of Sumail because he has been popping off as well on the Ember Spirit.
In the second game, if you look at the CES, 37 denies, Niku sitting at 23 and 7,
Sumail has 67 creeps at the time, net worth big advantage, but if you look at the KDA as well, Niku,
he's still doing pretty well. He is landing those Sun Strikes, he is still making some kind of a play happen.
Niku won that game by the way, that was the Divide Timber game.
the zero. Yeah. I'm seven zero zero seven zero. But I'm also
glad to bring that up because one of the things Niku did really
well in that game. He was like, all right, some mail is
battering me here. This is really rough. He's denying every
creep. He had like 35 denies or whatever it was at 10 minutes.
Niku said, I'm just going to play deep and try and get my
net value. Yeah. And then in the third game, he said, you
know what? You're not going to beat me in lane because
at the third game he had almost a thousand network advantage at ten minutes so he's like
some males doing good he is a lane dominator but so is Niku do not underestimate this guy.
Niku's good and I love how it's just a cycle of abuse for Niku's getting abused by Sumail
and he's like I'm just going to take it out on Divy, Divy 0-7 getting absolutely mind-read on
the Sun Strikes. Now he did call Lucky in the interview. Yeah yeah Divy, you have to tell
I know you do zero seven zero. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Look must have been involved. I got that you got a reset somehow
So I respect it, but Niku is just that good man. I don't know if you remember we we interviewed Niku and
Andrew you had a great interaction with them, which we're just gonna show now
Is there any teammate that you have that if they're getting like giga farmed you know that you won the game
Like what if one guy's having a really good game. You're like, this is easy. It's in the bag
Of course, I can be a 5k natures, but if my god the juice having 50k natures he will fall in the game.
And there you go, you know, I mean one of the things I've really enjoyed with the Navi guys has been the interviews.
They don't bullshit you, they just, yeah they are straight up.
They say what they believe.
And what I also love is the relationship that Nikol got the juice have together.
You can see Gut the Juice has been breaking all of these records.
I mean, he's no joke.
Yeah, he is a very fast farmer.
He is a more late game type of a carry oriented hero.
He's not playing any of the crazy stuff.
He played Nagasarn, but this is right up the Eastern European Dota.
As you call it, the CIS Classic.
Yeah, you need to play Sven.
You need to play Void, TB, PL, all of these heroes, all these Illusion heroes.
He haven't been popping off on pretty much every single hero
I don't remember him getting pushed out of the lane and just getting nothing out of it
So super strong laner and it definitely shows and also one of the fastest farmers we have at the tournament
Yeah, the stat that I wanted to look at and this time on ironically because it wasn't nightfall on the screen was the pings per minute
He's number one for pings per minute
And so my read on this is that when Niku says I really like when my got the juice is farming
It seems like got the juice is the type of carry that will entirely dictate the game when he's having a good game
He will say let's go do this. Let's go do this
He's calling all of the shots in the game and it makes the game
Obviously way more comfortable to play in another interview
We saw Nico said like he could just chill and own the map and I feel like this is part of it
Right like you have one of these players. It's vocal
They're having a good game and they're able to make all of the calls and as a mid laner
Niku just gets to chill out and do his thing.
And here's what I love about their previous encounter.
The diversity of heroes you can see there on your screen.
I wanted to show like what happened in these games when they picked certain heroes
because you see the Doom picked on 13 and they thought we're going to just
straight up take the lifestealer we don't care about this and then what they did in that game
is that they put Doom in the safe lane they picked Enigma as the overall
last one. And then also wanted to showcase that Timbersaw also has been
picked in that second game into the Doom, into Invoker later on, so he didn't have
that good of a time. This is the game that they lost and then you also had a
game where Doom was picked on 18 after Timbersaw, which is a very good
counter. We saw the same thing happen yesterday in one of the series. Just the
hero that does way too many things against these certain offlaners. So
It does feel like you need to have a bit of a different approach when it comes down to this hero.
And we are seeing Doom already getting banned out and Nigma getting banned out.
So it seems like the heroes that we just highlighted, Navi, also wanted to say we are taking those out.
Yeah, and just a thing I wanted to highlight a little bit right at the start of the draft where we got time to talk about it.
Bulba has obviously been, you know, a divisive figure when it comes to drafting.
people have critiqued him at various organizations and teams he's been on.
I think at this tournament, he has pulled out, I mean assuming it is him, which it should
be, he is the coach, but he's pulled out some incredible, you know, kind of trump cards
if you will.
Right at the last minute in these drafts and it's definitely got them to the stage
of the tournament right now.
Yeah, definitely did.
If you look at some of the drafts, the drafting has been like really, really
good while one of those games and they were playing against Navi he also pulled
off the Grimstroke which tied the lineup like well together had some like
interesting ideas and it comes down to OD matchups as well in the mid lane that
game didn't end too well because they were kind of feeding on the side lane
but the idea was definitely there some mail completely dumpster that lineup of
the enigma plus the doom switch where do most played from the safe lane so
Ideas this is a big one to me
Bulba really represents NA Dota and no matter where he is and
Big I'll say problem in NA Dota is that we would pick entirely to win lanes but back to the RTZ era
This is where we would we would switch up things just to win lanes now
Criticism I have of non NA teams, you know is that I think a lot of these
I'll say like a year ago when they go to really exist three years ago for one maybe ago a decade ago
But my point is I digress a lot of these other teams they will not switch stuff up to win lane
Yeah, even if there is a freebie. It's like they're afraid like oh, no, I'm a carry player
I only play terrible late. I can't play doom in wits. He's fine playing whatever so I like that. There's this mix of
European we are going to draft to win the game
But also we are willing if you give us a really good lane if you give us a really good matchup. We will have wits play
Safe laner that's not really a safe laner to get something. That's yeah really good, but they're not full committed to that
I'm just thinking I see this grim stroke ban as well
And I'm thinking whether we're gonna be seeing Timbersaw hero has been highly contested last time
They were playing against each other and now there is no doom. There is no grim stroke Phantom really messes up with Timbersaw
somebody else needs to kill the Phantom if his chocker is out because he can't
attack and it's also a lane dominator so I feel like it's still sucked yesterday
though it did great WS owned that game kind of solo and then the game was it's
the same counter it just do which I think there is another counter coming up
against him that's Ursa I hear that he's seen good amount of like times
picked so far at Valakia and Ursa is looking better and better all right I
I got a question for you, boys.
Do we expect the Niku undying mid to come out?
This is what he likes to pick against Earth Spirit.
It's true.
And we saw him do it with Marana as well before.
It's a great point.
I mean, obviously, we have seen previous opponents actually
ban it out.
He has attracted a lot of respect
bans from opponents here only because, and obviously,
He's witch-doctor. He's made witch-doctor a banable hero for some reason so yeah nurse timber out
So I I it's possible. It is possible, but I don't know how I feel about that
I like me cool on skill expression here or some it's like either either they win in
18 minutes or they lose in 18 minutes when they pick this shit
Okay, so we're gonna see the natures prophet dazzle come out and now we're in this interesting scenario where it's like you take it
Do you take it or do you preemptively counter it with something like a spear breaker or try to counter it?
And my question is does he want to play Lena in this matchup?
This is the game where he did dumpster delaying pretty heavily in the same exact matchup
EarthSpirit is good at the game against Lena who he's is the gap closure Lena doesn't get to like to play against the heroes that get too close
Yeah, like he Lena was in the pool. I mean everyone in the pool on embers in the pool
Yeah, I also think that we are gonna be seeing like there is nature's profit
available still, this is something that LGD can pick up, but I would love to see
Axe being picked up by Navi. Yesterday EMA, he did have Rampage in one of those
games, and also this is the hero that they also believe in because prior to
yesterday he was only sitting at 25% win rate at the time, so I still feel that
these Graves that you've seen in some of the series were way too clutch and I
want to see like this is the counter to Dazzle, so I want to see them
Potentially pick it up because in the prolonged team fights with the magnetized resetting dazzle heal
Since like with these two heroes these are gonna be like very difficult fights to take this guy is opposite dark seer where
There are counters to the hero that people are not picking that will make it look a lot worse
We mentioned ancient operation as well. That's a LaCoste side. That was a deep sigh
We need a LaCoste and I love draft by that. I love that they picked us immediately showing you like yeah, this is mid
This is mid and we also want to have a hero that can do stuff
So it needs to be days one of his better heroes overall that is gonna be making plays
That's Marana one of the stronger supports do absolutely make plays on the map
I mean, this is the thing you might not like being die in mid, but you gotta love the tusk. I know yeah, that's true
The Lord give us and the Lord take us away. They're giving them
So many good heroes and they will pick up that nature's profit immediately
Fuck yeah, dude. This is the Navi. I love
Guys this is so funny
They're either going like this is gonna be a stomp one way or the other it's good
It's gonna be a blood bath. You got nature's dazzle earth spirit
It's all of these heroes want to fight and Navi's just like yeah, we'll take it to you. Yeah, we'll fight you and
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But why is the Dazzle Lynch's profit emerging as a strong safe?
It's insane.
We're using terms like heal bombs.
Yes.
Explain it mechanically.
Yeah, it's basically the units that you have, you give a share to your support because as a care player you can't micro, of course.
Micro of course so you give it to your support who's going to be microing those trients try to surround them
Then use the dazzles heel to get the extra damage in
Right now. I am seeing one of the issue is their damage is damage over time
It is not a damage that you can like pump in in this life stealer
They have double save with the sole rib two stone later on maybe as well with the snowball
So life stealer it does look like a very good life stealer game problem is LGD. They want to push the tempo
They want to have Nature's Prophet deeping into the mid lane,
trying to punish whoever is going to be playing the mid,
and that's going to be undying in this one.
Not the easiest hero to punish,
but having a BKB piercing tool like Axe for both of the teams
is going to get contested,
and they do have the pick out of the Fade,
that's why I mentioned it earlier,
and it would just make quite a lot of sense
because of the Dazzle, of course.
So we will need to cook something slightly different.
I would say that Centaur could potentially be picked up by Navi.
I think they need to find a hero, like even Darkseer is fine, but it's not like they have any combos.
You've seen that the combos are working out really well.
What if you just moved the Undying to the Offlane, would that be something?
I don't think Undying would be a little ropid.
I actually think that's one of the...
This might be the only lane that beats an Offlane Undying.
Okay.
because
That's a cute you're never gonna run away from dazzle cue the hillbombs gonna do like I'd one decay
Does not do enough. It's just so crazy to get this far in a draft and they remember still to be I think they need a wave cutter
Okay on on Navi. I legit don't think there's any other alternative. You can't play this line. Darkseer would be good just because he can
Jungle you know. Oh, well, there it goes. See you later, dude. Honestly, like I was gonna say sand king
But he just needs he needs too many like early levels. I miss Sanky
Something something they can cheese the lane
It's it's hard to to think of the I mean centaur is
That right did you know George RR Martin used to be a sci-fi
Slash horror writer before Game of Thrones fame and he wrote a short story about little creatures that live in the sand called San Kings
little goblins no no they look like some oh play Dota before Dota they like
the little green guys that friggin look it up goblins true story and we get the
safe sent all yeah we yes we've seen this a number of times here and it is
just old faithful now divide has there's so many off laners band here bro
Band are picked. I wouldn't even have even minded Centaur for them even though it's into
Lifestealer. See, even Beast is out. Yeah, all of these BKB piercing tools, they see that this
Lifestealer can have a pretty free game and there isn't really much stopping him. All of
these offlaners with BKB piercing abilities are banned out and if Lifestealer can get away
for free. He basically has like four lives in this one with the stampede cart later on
mobile tombstone, soul ribs, four stats from Marana, etc. It just feels like this year was
just not gonna die. Like we've seen the pretty similar game yesterday where life stealer didn't
have.
Yeah, he's running out of picks, dude. I feel for him. I'm just I'm feeling like
hang go like tight enter. I'm going real deep into the off lane pool of things
that off lanes by the play ridiculous in general right now like they gotta they
gotta I would say night stalker maybe by the way I do want to say this I'll give
seb his flowers he said in my ear he said I'm gonna pick a slaughter here and I
was just thinking of myself I'm not repeating that I forgot this hero
just not exactly but everyone did except said except them are he is the one who
And it looked very very good. He played it in the same matchup where Skeeter had no game
Like this was one of those games we handed that with zero four and zero basically had
700 damage dealt on the life stealer one of the lowest damage that we've seen in professional Dota from a carry player in a
Long time, but they found something
I was not sure they could find a hero to tie these all these heroes together, but
They they said it's what we've been talking about
They are cooking when it comes to the drafts like it's very hard to protect predict
Which direction they're gonna go in it is it is not one of devised best heroes
That's that's my only concern. I was trying to find some he has been way more versatile. He he has yeah
He has remember when it was just primal beast. Yeah
Remember that remember those days he has upgraded as a player in ensley and especially in this tournament
he has put his team on his shoulders in a lot of the games.
So I really love to see that this is,
you know, he may be ascending to actually being
one of these tier one offlaners in Dota,
which we've been looking for for a long time.
I agree with Lacoste, this really ties it together.
They have a guy to go in, they have a stunner,
it's a hero that's really good against Life Stealer
and Lane, you have Nature's Prophet,
who's gonna dish out a ton of physical damage late game.
You're amplifying that,
winning the carry to carry matchup.
It's really good.
I mean the big worry for me of course is going to be that Sumail Niku matchup because I you
know he said it himself on the interview to me says I pick and dying it's low dopamine
it's a brain dead hero you're gonna have to have your brain very much switched on because
you are laying against one of the best mids in the world right now in the rejuvenated
Sumail yeah he's he's ready to go I also expect him to make the moves from the
mid lane like something that you've seen him so far on any of the spirits six
seven eight minutes in he is ready to just move to the side lanes and try to
punish this they could also make very aggressive moves because they do have
nature's profit and they can always bring that plus one yeah I'm a big believer in
the the tempo nature's profit drafts and is ideal if you have a spirit mid and
even more ideal if the best current spirit player is playing that spirit
They can do the near shading.
All right, guys.
I think it's in the masterclass of drafting.
We'll find out if Big Bulba agrees.
He's with Nomad right now.
He is indeed.
All right, Bulba.
So coming into this game, obviously,
yesterday was pretty rough for you guys.
Did you have a lot of talking to do with the team?
And did you have to get them in the right headspace
for this series?
It was a pretty late match, so we just talked for a bit.
And then we had to wake up super early for this.
So we just talked.
We went over.
It was just the winter bracket final.
So today is the day that really matters.
So we just focus for today.
Well, we're all feeling like you've got a pretty good draft here.
Is the team really confident with the heroes they've got?
Yeah.
I mean, some of the Earth Spirit has been on fire this tourney.
So I think we're feeling it.
We have to see how they have their undying mid-wrestling
Earth Spirit.
So we have to just kind of see how that one goes.
Yeah, it's an interesting matchup.
Obviously, the lane can be a little bit tough.
But then afterwards, do you feel like the undying can
sort of fall off a bit or does he still a threat through the game yeah it's like
it can be both because if we take a bad fight into him you can but like
earthsburg will definitely like have better scaling than when earthsburg gets
like BKB and stuff that early game is obviously the issue for this absolutely
very well could be well good luck in this game number one we'll see how it
goes for you guys the castors for this matchup it is Odiepixel I'm
to Fogged.
Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Time to get into the action of Game 1 for LGD vs. Na'Vi. We're
going to see who's going to move through this best of three and make it onto the best
of five Grand Finals against Yandex Fogged. What do you make of this? It's another Na'Vi
game, another mid undying game, something that they do love to play. We've seen
it miss, but we've also seen it hit pretty successfully. So it's just a question of
which we decided the mid undying we're going to see today from Niko.
They do have the two supports they did last time when it hit they do have the tusk in the marana
I really did want to highlight the tusk in particular because this for me this is days his best hero
So I think the early game I'm gonna be looking at what he can do on this tusk in terms of rotations
But yeah, both threats. They're looking pretty strong right LGDs
We like the MP Dazzle that we've been seeing multiple times willow slaughter
It's a very strong deal and they have an earth spirit for the team fight and everything together
So synergy is all there
It's just how is the macro movement gonna look and how are they gonna look to
Make sure that two male doesn't get so shut down because we did see Niku. He just what it was. It was BZM
Yeah, so we'll have to see how that ends up going down and yeah
Let's see how these lanes end up going this bottom lane is just well
It's up to days if they can make a difference because this does feel like it's a pretty unbeatable lane that LGD has this time around with
The MP plus the dazzle versus double melee
So yeah, let's see what days wants to try to do here. He has boots
So he is gonna try to pull the wave versus a dazzle
This looks like he should be able to grab it here. He distanced himself from poison touch even get some sort of courier
But yeah, it's eyes a lot on the mid lane to see how soon male just indoors
Because I see niku will go for the kill very early. He goes for the soul rip
He always just goes for these dive plays. He just spams the spells onto the
The air spirit keeps him extremely low
It doesn't get both the denies on the range, some else still able to find one of those under
the tower.
And then it's the eyes on the top lane.
We did see a similar lane coming out from Yandex, direct to pressure, the lifestealer
Slardar has always traditionally been very good versus him.
This time they don't have an invoker though, where the sun strikes are going to be literally
ruining the lifestealer's life, so forgot the juice.
It should be a much better lane overall for him, because he's got the Murana
behind him.
worse hero at trading could be a bit harder but the fact that he has this Marana should be a pretty okay lane for him
Because all in all that last pick coming out from LGD considering there was so many
Bands targeting the offline hero pool. It's it feels like it's not bad at all. I mean with the slardar. It's sort of that
Hero that has been ignored for most part
Just had it the other day being shown as you said by a ma looking fantastic on it
Um, is there reason why we haven't seen it more? Do you think it is a little underpictor?
Is it indeed just a case of...
...overoff laners are just better right now?
Slardar isn't bad, there's just normally better options.
There's probably better. He also just got nerfed.
So I think whenever people see a nerf, they maybe overreact to it a little bit here,
but it looks like an amazing Slardar game.
Not just the fact that, you know, they have, like, synergy with all these other heroes,
right, with the Dazzle plus the NHS Prophet.
He has Corosive Haze versus Moonlight Shadow.
I mean, that's the classic old versus...
One isn't it? Oh, they got a massive viz pick a slot on and then also the fact that they have it's triple strength course
So one thing about strength course is usually they lack armor right in the early game, especially
They usually need to itemize for it, which they will but you can look at the early game
Three armor on a life stealer. I think it's 300 undying and one it on the centaur
So it does feel like a pretty incredible pick
And mid lane Sumel he is trading totes. Uh-oh. Oh
Uh-oh
Well, oh
I have no idea who took more damage. I mean, let me there's a million creeps in the mid lane now
No, I they weren't taking out grow though. Lily. I'm Niku is getting attacked by like eight creeps right now. That's true
I think he's gonna be able to be around
Well, that happened so I sure was owning he's actually playing this lane super well right now
He's double up double up in the creep wave versus the undying so Nico's actually having I guess a little bit more difficulty going for the
trade hits on to him here
Because I think it's what one two three four five six seven creeps eight creeps. I can't count seven creeps in the mid lane
Hitting onto the undying right now. So can't trade effectively versus that earth spirit
I don't play everything so good as we get everybody back in the lobby, I'm a bit of a
PMA disconnecting again, so maybe still some sort of issue.
It was a big hiccup, definitely don't want to have one of those lag spikes, someone walks
under a tower, takes a tower hit or something.
So other thing to talk about, right, besides, since we did mention that, Slardar mentioned
We have to mention Wintz, right, because he's had some games where he has struggled quite a bit in this tournament
But he's had some games where he did also pop off when he's playing with confidence
So I think a key thing to look at this game is play with confidence
He has an early-nature's profit pick with a good tempo lineup to set pace
He can TP and change some of these matchups too
Like if Niku overplays his hand and an NP finds an opportunity to TP kill ever sure
It's harder in the mid lane usually, but
It would be pretty massive if they ever kill the undying pre like pre 5 to 10 minutes with this air spirit plus 1
Nope, everybody's uh, they're in and they're out and then they're back in and then they're back out
So hopefully did something happen like a spell combo hit that's broken something that I don't see I'm like looking
Yeah, yeah, is any spell just been casted check check check the cooldowns. There's some blood sticking out right here
So I'm like look look you don't see all these like weird. Oh, actually you don't see them on your screen
Oh, they're on the creeps my screen looks weird. Yeah, I
I have some weird like blood animations all over the middle. So yeah, I see that as well, but
Yeah, we've got the go
Okay
Wisdom exchange
LGD is looking like they're gonna get both and days actually walks into it. They're looking for the kill onto snake egg
He's still level one so no keel bomb
But doesn't matter too much damage from the trees
That mid, smile. He's doing super well. Just about to grab the wave.
He gets himself the money, creeps as well too. He is doing the best, the better than
we saw the other spirits do at least so far here.
Yeah. And as we say, you know, the prospect for the mid and dying, we've seen it do
It's amazing and we've seen it look pretty rough.
So far, yeah, we've seen it with one win, one loss, so...
Yeah, so far it's fine.
Of course, he wanted to do maybe a little bit better, but it's going to start getting harder.
Depends on how Sumail wants to play the lane if he can pull or not.
And Niku, yeah, this game, Facebook's definitely a clear choice if he wants to be playing
with this extra armor versus the Slardar plus MP.
He is starting to make the moves around, because he's just gonna secure the rune for Niko.
Pretty even across the board here though, Centaur, he's getting a little bit behind but
then on the flip side you see the Earth Spirit, right?
Just the fact that DeVy is having this really good start.
All important for them, because they did mention also for DeVy, this isn't one of
his best heroes.
It's kind of toward the bottom of what he likes to play more than anything, so very
poor to get them off to a good start in this game. And they're making the moves
already so maybe they're accepting the fact that got the juices farming they're
not slowing down the slaughter any with the Marana and now they're just making
moves but they're spotted snaking it place the word level one kind of
anticipating this move so they are completely aware that Riddies is down
bottom right now.
I thought he was off the point.
Snaking bluffing as well too. He's kind of faking that they have that word. He's like, I don't see you.
But he most definitely does.
Yeah, so won't be able to find anything there.
Attempted rotation. We'll connect it up. Got the juice. We'll be eating some pressure.
That's a hard one to catch though.
Yeah. But just spamming the spells on him right to push him away from the creep wave is going to be quite impactful.
impactful. Sumail now, getting some jungling. It is starting to be a little hard for him
to just sit in the mid lane. He wants his level 6 too.
Daze.
Ooh, Daze vines him.
He's got the ward down. Sumail is super low.
It's the silence.
Daze is going to happen though. Surely the shards blocking him in.
They'll get the CS. But Daze will get the kill.
First blood here for Daze as he finds a very low HP Sumail.
You've seen this so much where we see, right, the 4 position after the mid lane is kind of
this counter pick stomp, like quote unquote stomper lane.
The 4 just walks in and gets a kill like this a lot.
That's pretty massive.
We did mention how important Baze is in this early game for Navi.
They might look for a secondary kill immediately.
He's level 4 after that kill.
Niku has hit the 6, so he can't go for the flesh golem skill if he would like
to and go for the dive play.
PMA is able to distance himself as well. He already has his home. The small home that
is. Juice was not slowed down either so Riddies little rotation on the meantime. Juice still
able to free farm in the top side. Riddies has a leap. He gets it.
Alright, they'll be able to take out those planes of attack.
That's the phase boots.
It's actually all pretty well together.
Yeah, you'll let it done, so...
Mid lane illusion rune for days.
They're actually pretty decent one this time.
You can pull the wave, keep the catapult alive,
get extra pressure here onto this tower.
Sumel has a 6, so he has magnetized if he wants to call for help over.
How close is Witch to 6?
Not quite there, so no wrath of nature yet.
The timing of those ults could be nice.
Divide, top.
Arrow will connect us.
Very nice arrow from Reddy's.
He's got the juice from Reddy's.
Should be able to chase him.
He's speedy.
Daze with the cutoff.
And it's not going to quite block him off, but the snowball's still in.
So Daze will still get the job done.
If juice had Facebook, she would have gotten the kill way earlier.
So actually the fact that they killed those Facebooks is pretty important
because it ends up being the tusk that takes the kill rather than the life stealer.
Smile.
He's turned up to the top.
We can find the magnetized out and get riddies.
We can get a second one.
Get the magnetized going on today's and got the juice.
Throw a bloke and they're down.
Days will by, but it's 80 on the side of the snowball.
Somal, we'll get to dive on board.
He gets the connection with the kick.
And he'll be able to make sure that they do find both supports.
So Somal, getting them two kills on the board here for LGD.
Still braver loads. That beat is up.
Sumail! Not able to back off in time before that counter play came in.
Felt that he could stick around for a couple of creeps was not the case. Navi!
The fact that PMA is already level 6 is pretty huge, right?
He was left quite alone as the Centaur down bottom. He actually has his Dominator done.
He's got that Stampede to close the gap as well too with that Earth Spirit.
I was actually not so... I mean, Sumail of course getting the kills is good for him,
but afterwards dying immediately. That feels pretty grim.
Wits, Wrath of Nature was used, he has hit the 6th, they've taken the bottom tower quite early here, but as I said, PMA.
He's got the item he already needs.
So we can start to cut the creep waves, and ensure that he's always going to get something.
So far Wits, not looking to TP in. I thought he was going to TP top, and look for the play also for the likes of you.
Maybe get something in itself out of the action.
Because if he joins in maybe earlier, they can pressure got the juice a little more and put some extra onto the tower.
Because I do want to see Wits play active. I don't want to see him play passive styles and nature's profit.
So we've seen some games from him where he has struggled to get involved at times.
But this one, I mean this one there should be multiple options to get involved with.
Because you have these number two cores, who are going to be setting up so many plays.
So that's why we do want to see him at least get involved.
The early game is going to be very good for how paced he can be versus the lifesteer,
but at some point it's going to be a little dangerous.
They have a lot of gap close as well for him.
They're looking to make the move to Niku. Plus days, they've got that slowball stamp. He's back up in 10 seconds. Witz has to make sure he has snaking near.
Immediate flush goal of their dive again.
Good chance here for Daisy.
Daisy returns, solid heal. Not gonna save him. The heal bomb comes through and returns. Blows him up. Still does Harvey move in.
on top of Wits, Rage is there, left the shallow flamethrower giving him some safety, the healer
is far off and the stab beats back up, they can run over Wits, take out the Olicor, and
now Rikzaljai snaking as Navi, they may have lost the two supports but they get much much
more from LGD and Retail and they'll kill both of their supports and also their carry.
I think TP very quick too for it, they were actually quite ready for it on the
outside of LGD, they instantly went for the Tombstone, they killed it, level six
This was there for the willow but just relentless aggression triple strength course diving the
nature's profit they needed a plus one so they're not having the TP at the ready they'll
bring the vibe down but he has to just cancel.
In fact there was a couple of TP's that they expended there and had to cancel.
Little awkward with the decision making fully not bringing enough heroes to bottom.
And good stuff from days even though they do manage to catch him and trip him up
just getting the shards down at the start allowing PMA to close in on top of Whitson
and cause some real issues for the nature's profit in this sort of fight.
He did his job perfectly, right?
As a support, he tanked all of the spells, right?
He tanked the big heal bomb for his teammates.
Very good movement there for Niku to get him involved.
And also the fact that he got the juices
having to sort of turn up for that play on the other side of the map.
He is a bit slowed down on the lifestealer overall,
but looking at his items, right,
it doesn't look like it's going to be that delayed of a radiance.
That's the blink of an eye for Divider.
Again, Divider's male have so many ways of starting action.
And they have the silence built in too, so they can't even threaten God the juicer if
they find the right angle to kill him.
With this Earth Spirit in particular.
Grittys?
That doesn't look like they really want to go for him here.
They want a bigger target, but they might have to settle.
He's going to try, he's got leaves, he's safe, that may be not, it's a good snowball to
decree, he's going to keep him at different distance from my LGD nice, a little evasive
maneuvers from the two of them, Ridgees and Dice, a thousand wrath of nature used
to, so trying to commit to go for the kill, and device swung over to the mid lane,
It's a very early blink dagger with the Sol Ring that he has. They want this tower.
They'll be able to get it. Have to give me four heroes for it.
But either way, we'll be able to bring it down if I take the last hit.
Both carries getting good space.
PMA going the build that we see when you need armor.
Instead of going for hard, you can play Resolver's Minus Army, he's gonna go the Lotus.
It's a really good Lotus game, now that I'm looking at it.
Right, Willow, Slardar, Urse, every spell pretty much is going to be excellent,
plus the armor that he has on top of it.
And overall for Navi, right, it's a bit of...
We just need to damage control overall, right.
For LGD, it does feel like the pacing, they ideally want to have a good network lead
going into the mid-game.
See how much the Undying can get done too.
Niko, he's got the Tiara that we've seen them build, he's going for that straight build
that we've seen him do every time, just the Octarene.
Same build from the Offlane.
At easier I would say for them, right?
Ganking Wits.
Ganking the Lifestear, it's possible from LTD with their Silences and with the
Slardar, but the Execution is much harder.
Wits, if he gets found, he's just very likely dead.
Snakey? Let's go settle for him. First damage. Gotta love Soul Rift when you have it maxed this early.
That's the best timing for some mail. Okay. So, do they need to really go looking for Zephanie?
Obviously they can because they have the Serpire and Slotter, but they also...
I think in farm as well.
Just know that Wits is getting free farm on this nature's profit.
Navi might be on more of a time because they have just been undying.
As long as they get some extra damage, this is really important.
Vani got the juice alone, that is the dreamcatch fail, GD, slowing down Navi's carry.
It depends on how they feel about the matchup, right, of the nature's profit versus the
lifesteal as the game goes on.
They probably can't play more of that farm style, but also slowing down got the
juice is very important.
Now they have a 2,500 difference between the carries.
to make a fight happen here in the middle into the undyne with the tombstone down could be difficult
so he could be able to turn Bersh through the other core.
Wix's just turned up but he doesn't want to be here immediately leaves the lotuses are
really done here for PMA. That was a perfect hit though right just keep going Gary. Make sure
that Wix has this differential because you want to have a good gold leader when you're in
playing natures profit versus that life suit Gary because later and later it does go that
life series, he will eat you alive if he keeps up to the... if he's at that even level in any way.
Stacks being made for Niku.
That's actually quite early here for days. Has a blink decorate picked up too,
so has good ways to counteract the potential moves as long as he doesn't get caught in
the silencer bramble. That's very close right now for two minutes. Do you feel from Navi's
perspective with this line up around Niko's mid undying, are they happy with what they've
got so far out this early game or do you think they would have wanted more? I think maybe
a little bit more out of it but I don't think that they're too dissatisfied right
because they did take the bottom tower, they lost their mid tower but overall they're
getting a decent amount. It's just that Daphne got the juice that's going to
the most, that one that just happened.
They're quite the different in there.
He is, yeah.
And far now, look at the CS difference.
I have a double here.
From Witz in comparison to what God the Juicer's been able to find.
If he can keep himself at this separation for the majority of the game, that's just
absolutely what he wants.
Yeah, I mean he's just going to be able to out carry any of the calls that Navi
So Witze is definitely making very good progress, very good timings.
Especially because he has the Slardar and we have to factor in even Dazzle, right, the weed.
There is quite a bit of Midas armor that's coming into play here.
So I would be surprised to produce the kind of LGD.
Maybe they do chill.
Slow it down a little bit.
They don't have to go too crazy short.
If they find a chance to isolate, got the juice,
make a move whilst they know that the rest of the team split from him,
they'll go for it.
But outside of that, at the moment,
with how much space and farm Witze is getting, then they're kind of happy.
Yeah, maybe they do just chill.
I also some like when I see these lifestealers, it's a guess. He's the carry, but it's also the centaur is a carry
We have to always show how much these do scale especially when it's PMA, right?
He can he can get out of controls farm, of course as you're seeing already is the highest net worth of that on Navi's side
So it does start to get pretty ridiculous and he's about to have the blink dagger too
So I think Navi when they have the blink now they actually have a set on that was a bit of their issue
I think to make plays more they have days with the blink dagger, but now having to double
They have ways to actually get the arrows to connect
But LGD, I imagine they'll take every single fight that comes to them at this point.
I would hope that they do.
Sure, if Na'Vi starts pushing into them again, which they probably will, LGD will not be
afraid to turn up.
Okay, Octorine is done.
They've got some pretty big item timings on Na'Vi to play around here.
Octorine on the Undying, plus the Shield Rune, plus the Double Blink Dagger.
Looking for Juice, he's just fine.
Mal playing safe also in the mid lane. Good positioning from him.
I think he's anticipating this move.
They're coming up top.
Finding Devai would be pretty nice.
You'll find them back and maybe even Devai as well too. They're breaking his blink dagger.
He's not gonna be able to get out of this.
He's got a TP but the arrow comes in from Riddies.
Navi make a good quick move to the top lane.
That hurts that hurts quite a lot. They've got the juice even getting the last hit so extra HP being acquired for him
Gonna get closer toward his arm lift
I'm not seeing a lot of passiveness though from LGD. I'm just seeing that
The wits is you know hitting great timings they're like, you know, we're sure what made when the BKB is done
Maybe they'll do that, but at least I'm getting that vibe right for the movements of algae that they're not
Let's smoke up around some mail smoke around divide. We're gonna go and try and fight them head on they seem
Content in kind of slowing the game down. Okay. Well, see how that ends up working
You know, I know how the Earth spirit the undying all that ends up going
Earth spirit does have some great scale, but I think the undying is a bit
I think it's maybe unexplored a little bit how much it can actually scale to
They're gonna get the jump off to the air.
Look at the turn bursting through days, let us have fun days.
He's keeping him right in the river. A very aggressive position for Witt.
He's strong though.
He's able to kill off Niko. See if they can go for more here.
They chase off towards PMA to fight close to the gap.
And with the crush, roll forward. They'll take out PMA.
I want to see those type of players.
Theo in the perfect position there for the fear.
for the fear that I mean they react to the majorly and I just say it was tipies
into the river and fair to him it works off he's he feels that strong right now
that he can do such tipies and he's absolutely right just sits there in the
river starts smashing into them and they can't touch him yeah insanely tanky for
him yeah as well too with the build that he's gone for with the lance in
between he's gonna have this is gonna be one of the most forms nature's
proper things we do see it super super farmed I mean that's why I feel like
LG is like we could just keep doing this just just show up. I get a chill out play passive
They come to us. We'll turn up and beat them up
Perhaps it is more about just reactionary lineup
That is gonna end up working with their peels and their fears, but it's night
We'll go down
Mid tower also this time we'll fall it's a bit of trades that are coming in here
because now I think especially after that bit of a rough fight they they are
gonna feel that the pressure is there for them to try and look to find these
fights but be successful with them of course I don't think they're gonna feel
that they can sit back too much
RGD, that takes it all, that's it.
Pretty safely as well, with the corrosive hits.
And Theo gets it.
Theo's having a pretty good game so far, he's terrorizes his counter initiations and it
will be pretty key for the team.
Navi, they are around the Roshan, they can obviously tank it but they don't kill it
very quick, right, or?
And dying always makes you, I mean relatively quick, sure, not super fast.
It's, like, it's safe, but you don't kill it quick, I don't know, is it quick?
been killing a bit. They're gonna try. We'll see how quick it does end up looking.
The flash goal limits usually a bit faster than you anticipated it to be.
That's fair. Now, you might be right, they make a good time out of here, so...
Yeah, it's... what? It's taken 35% half, I forget for the level 2.
30%, so it is quite a lot.
It looks like LG is maybe starting to be aware that this is going on, but they are not going to be aware quite quick enough,
As Roshan is taken, got the juice, we'll get the Aegis.
Wits continue to be absolutely massive, and these timings double, er, is it double BKB done yet?
No, not yet. So LGD is getting close to that triple BKB timing to play against.
There are of course quite a bit of things that go through it, but that will allow them to just bypass some of the stuns at least.
The Centaur in particular.
Wits continue to be just literally the entire gold lead, it's Wits.
And I like this itemization if he does go for it this time if he does want to go like butterfly into the crit right playing versus the life stealer
Okay, yeah
You're fine on the butterfly because they're looking at their damage right?
I guess when you're this ahead right it does feel nice because of the fact you're getting this evasion
And you're gonna get it so early that they're not gonna be able to itemize as well versus it
We'll see if he does pivot, but I
prefer something like this to like the orchids that we did see from a couple of them, right?
It's just about standing your ground and being that turret. He needs to be able to be that turret for the team.
Okay, BKB number two is done. Very close to having BKB number three on the side of LGD,
but question is how much do they want to actually force a fight again as always,
and also do they want to force a fight at ages? Probably not. So probably gonna play more of that farm.
PMA, doubling, tripling down on the armor, so he's got the Dominator, Lotus, Gongshiba's
35 armor on him now.
This test is crazy.
Wow, physical damage resistant.
Imagine we could see similar from Niku even where maybe he goes like BKB after Octo, he
ends up looking like an AC, right?
He does want armor as well on the Undying too.
I'm not sure what his overall actual build is usually, but perhaps does need to adapt
in this game.
Unless it's just gonna be got the juice that buys it afterwards at some point, but we don't really see the life series doing that anymore
Yeah, I mean, where do you think he does have to go after his man to got the juice in his build?
Do their eggs basher the axe always feels incredible. So
We see we see the the butterfly and go MKB next or is that kind of awkward to get at that stage as a large silver
Maybe as the one after
Right like an axe. Yeah, an MKB sounds pretty good. You kind of want something before if you're gonna go MKB
Yeah, I do think so at least, but we'll have to see what his choice is
I don't they seen which yet either so by the time they see it
It might be here already queues up the next one to see how that goes. So okay BKB number three. It's done
LGD, I think that yeah, well, we'll see if that the sort of five changes now BKB's are out
But again, I won't be surprised if they do just kind of keep on chilling and just wait for naffi to come to them
Especially whilst Na'Vi does have to say, just so I've got the juice for a couple of minutes still.
I feel like both teams look pretty content.
I feel like whatever.
They do! But I know you mean it, trust me.
I do feel if they're both going to be content farming, LGD is a bit safer in kind of taking that approach with their lineup.
Smoker, Na'Vi.
Manta's done, Shiva's done. A couple extra item timings. They also have BKB from Niku.
from Niku. Triple item timing on the core is coming out here. Ceaseless dirge is up in
15 seconds as well.
Oh, Divide!
Open the jump, over each up, and second jump! See the raw floor here, Samuels!
Bats make his way over to Niku! Commits it with the BKB and the magnetized, gets it
going. The turn, take the tombstone out.
Offward though.
It'll start to back off here, LGD. They look like they were not happy with the
jump. They got that. Days. Try to see if you can catch anyone on the retreat.
Jump back in, in fact, front divide. Gets back in on the days, but the solar
BKB is going to be there for him, as far as the punch up, as Define is dead.
Sumail will be able to roll away before the last two is able to get his hands on him.
We'll see a TP out, not going to happen in time though, the burst damage comes in, they'll lose two heroes.
Sumail got arrowed as he rolled in, so the initiation actually got completely botched,
so they immediately were like, ah, how do we take this fight?
If you see the replay, you can see they're really good at rolling.
He got arrowed right before the BKB, so it actually was a two or three seconds delayed
that his team was like, ah, okay, we have to hit Toomstone,
And then some males like I need to get out this fight already is awkward
Yeah, let's have a look again watch when he goes he gets Niku right with the roll it the watch ready zero
It's a very good idea to get in a straight as way as he connected still gets to be keeping the magnetized off
But what that little sort of interruption just
He doesn't get this makes it a bit messy
He doesn't get the silence up on to you go Niko gets flesh golem off
And then it's like oh my god, I think thousand HP and done dying
We don't want to go for this play and then divide trying to go back in there a little too wild of a play that
Navi a very easily able to punish.
He nearly got out.
I wits very close.
I don't know, wits is farming, my concern is just the device falling off very hard.
They're scaling on three cores, it's three core versus the NP.
So this is a bit of the worry that I was having.
It's just that they have a triple scaling core.
I mean, again, you know, obviously we're mere scrubs.
And maybe I just don't like the item, but I'm just not a big fan of a
butterfly this stage on the build.
On the nature's profit perhaps it is maybe too early, right because you can see the
MKB yes, and then I feel like a lot of damage has got to come out from it sure
He's got me on it's kind of helping against these elements of evasion
But there is obviously a radiance and I mentioned with the moron level 15 you take the evasion talent, right?
Yes, yeah, so certainly you might have again all the hits in so you
Oh, these fights are awkward now.
All the timings are being hit from Navi and the timings from LGD aren't really coming
together.
If you're losing fights after you buy Butterfly like this, it's pretty devastating.
I don't know, sometimes the butterfly feels a bit... eh.
Yeah, you might be right.
I'm just not a fan.
Believe me, because I've done it so many times, I'm a great game.
It seems like a nice sight to get earlier in the build,
but then if you get it and then you start dying,
you're like, why did I buy this now?
You can't start dying.
I think that's kind of what us insinuates,
is that you need to play super aggressive
if you do go for this type of build.
Because if you do start...
Yeah, if you do fall behind, one or two lost teamfights
and they have the answers to the addition.
Got the juice, is MKB, it's coming out on the courier!
Yeah...
And this Leicester is going to do a whole lot more to you than you're going to be able to do to him now, in the middle of these fights.
It's tough for Wetz.
How did he have to have cleaner execution in these next few fights?
Spells are missing, and obviously he's getting pretty much everything off perfectly.
Daze is getting to play his hero quite beautifully, right?
He's getting all his spells off, which I would say, that can't happen.
You need to be addressing this toss.
He can't just be getting a roll and a punch onto your BKB course over and over again.
Nice 3D, can't do that anymore, we need pick offs. Killing the front tier too is not going to work anymore.
We need more items and pick offs, we need this one.
He's absolutely right there, thanking the team fights.
This is snowballing.
And this is your top net worth hero while sighing?
Twice within a minute? Was that the death in the middle and then the death down bottom?
back and now divide as well. He'll survive but snaking will not. These team fights just two or
three that have gone quite horribly for the side of LGD. All of their momentum that they've kind
of been building up just stagnated and now this life stealer is the king. He's actually ahead
of the nature's profit somehow and their other two cores are in an excellent position too.
It's just easier for them to fight it looks like. So they all have to charge in to try
kind of forced the action and it just became a turn on to him.
Tertu's gone, got the juice, taking the top spot now after, I mean,
he sort of rewinded the scam for 10 minutes.
He was like, he was at the bottom of the cause, right?
Struggling, but my goodness, the tables have turned.
They haven't found a kill in eight minutes on the side of LGD.
Nothing has connected for them.
And yeah, I think for me, you know, when we saw sort of LGD kind of
seemingly happy to play it slow I just expected a bit more from which on the
nature's profit and that's kind of my hope for LGD kind of starting to fail
seeing which turn up and die two times like that I just so many games I've
seen when these NPs get picked and they do play a little bit more passive
style and I'm like okay yes he's very far but that's the nature of the hero
right you are always unless you're like feeding in the late right you're gonna
get farmed on this year so you have to use your advantage so that's why I
didn't really like that I'm like sure I can see how they can scale in the
game but I don't like when they just sit back and not let nothing any time I mean
this game has just got so so much harder for LGD now that Navi have this
advantage and got the juices as big as he is he has no fear now at this point
They can't find it all. They need to just somehow open up the map for themselves and go through these pick offs with the Slaughter MP, but Navi, they're just running at them at this point.
They're reading the plays, got the juice, as you said, 7-1-8, a distant memory from when he was shut down.
The recovery has been fantastic for a man. It rarely has.
He was that far behind in the farm early on, but my goodness, now at the top, and now with all the answers for anything,
really, the LGD have, including their carry wits, as far as he is on the numbers, the amortization against the lifestealer.
It just don't feel too hot right now.
No, not if you fall behind, not by any means, you need to, if you're gonna go butterfly, you need to like handedly win the next few fights and use that advantage, but multiple fights lost, Navi.
All the way up to an 11k lead. The graph really tells a pretty beautiful story of it, right? Like, they've gotten zero kills on LGD in over 10 minutes, and now Navi, they're looking pretty unkillable on all their cores.
Mid on dying, baby.
Yeah, Niku. Certainly showing what he can get done with. He's played it very, very nicely.
Again, sure the situation in the mid-semail dealt with it well, didn't feed to the Undying.
We're going to get comparable farm to him, but we're seeing just how much as a component in these teamfights,
it just makes it very difficult for LG to make the calls.
You know, we have some snaking, he's like, well, we can't teamfight.
He's absolutely right, they can't. Not into this Undying right now.
And maybe just they never will be able to because of where Niko's been able to get to at this point
The team fights will remain this difficult and they'll only get harder I know at this point
Just looks like they have no damage right you're playing versus a
5000 HP on dying when he gets his old tough of 4500 HP centaur and a what how much life on the life stealer
3000 something life on the life stealer sure you have high physical damage
But it comes out kind of slowly without like a data list now and it wits
I'm seeing him ghosted and because he feels like he needs survivability, but I don't need to say to myself
They need some sort of step on the damage
Because the timing sort of where
Which would have had that you know that never fleet and sort of and maybe like the map the mouse trim
That's looking me on a BKB. Mm-hmm when you hit it that fast
That's gonna be a great timing, but ever since that this of the power peak for the power spikes have been lost in fields
100% around LGD's course.
Navi, Snaking's trying to get outside but he is very sad.
Very likely both of the supports gone.
Navi making it look easy now.
I'm fun to see in this style, I mean again as you said from the draft right it was the undying with what the two supports right?
The two supports is the key, that's what I think.
If you're looking at this game, you're sort of saying to yourself, well, maybe we leave the Undying in, but don't let him have it with this sort of build up around them, because this is clearly what Navi run with the best.
And to be honest, I was saying at the beginning too, this is by far the best hero. He's 18 of the 22 kills. I think every time I've seen him get like a snowball punch, he's found this.
Yeah, he's been doing a lot this game.
They're taking the power X and LGD, nothing they can do about it.
They're trying to split the map up, but at this point lanes are just naturally pushing it and pushing in from those creeps
Whits he's kind of have this attack them, but yeah, he's just got no damage now at this point
What are the damage numbers look like?
Would you imagine what could we have a look at those to hear a damage?
I'll be pretty low on the radio or across the
It's not too bad actually. Okay
Not too bad. It's comparable. Okay. How about the can we see some healing numbers as well too?
Because I do want to see the solar it has actually done quite a bit of
Oh, that's true. I've been there dying. Yeah, so they've counteracted quite a bit of the damage that ODD did also put out
I know it's a complete smooth sailing
That's a lot of fueling
So I did see the low damage numbers he's been counteracting the majority even has a strong enough to
How does that compare to something like a dazzle? Obviously it's a hard game for snaking
But how much healing will he have done in this game? Probably like seven k
I would say maybe even last it feels like at least yeah 5k so
Tough to keep up the healing power at this undying mid that's getting out of control from me good
Also when you're dying at the start of things snaking having a rough one zero seven and two be good. Oh
Well, that's not your soul ring
Happens happens. Yeah, well they didn't see it. Did they know I know they didn't
It's okay. He has sees those dirt you can if he dies because back to life
One of the biggest things for me in this game is that just it's how much PMA got, I give up to be honest, it's that bottom lane in particular.
Because even though we did see how big it was, I was just looking at the Centaur was showing it was 2 or 3k behind, it was still pretty close.
Alright, I've seen PMA in just so many games that he does this. I always compare him to Collapse because he has a very similar style of farming.
Baster now picked up for the life stealer and just he's actually skipping the agonist
Maybe that nerf hurt more than I'm anticipating to like I've seen a couple people now just bypassing the axe
They're just going for the normal old life stealer builds
Still looks quite strong. Yeah
We have a sprout on to a slow man on the ages got the juice
Not too much to the he has to be worried about he'll dump immediately
I'm gonna jump one of wits
Arrow won't connect
Crushed with a big pull to the side from Daze
Getting got the juice out of harm's way
Tombstone is down
Onto the low ground, he'll soul rip it
But it's gonna die, he'll stop
Bit annoying to push into this
They do have some decent spam
30 seconds left on the Aegis, they'll back up
You're gonna say something?
Is that last year?
In terms of maybe skipping the axe
He's he's not really under any threat dying right? That's true. There's not an element or a level of damage really from LGD
That's kind of bursting through into a point where he's gonna be full padding like I gotta jump inside something
Yep, and his itemization is quite natural this game too, right?
Like he said the butterfly saw you go MPB versus minus armor go AC. Yeah, every bit pick up this fuel
And he's got great stage right? He's got the
The tusk ready at any time to bail them out and he's sort of bad situations. Yeah, especially now drinking bodies
It's one of the better ones to have extra armor being given to.
And also the tombstone.
So it just, yeah, he never really
needs to save himself if these fights got the juice he
can trust in his teammates and can go for this aggressive build.
And he's got Moonlight Shadow Evasion too in the fights.
He is very, very durable.
LCD.
Nothing has really connected since that early game.
more on the ball than LGT. LGT, it was an okay start, but then the slowdown came in a play and
that did not go well for them both. No, I don't know, I think they needed to play a little more
aggressive. I think just playing for only the responsive plays versus this Navi draft year,
yeah, you have to be able to make your own moves as well on the map too, and you do have
that bit of an advantage as well. We saw them make a couple, but yeah, Navi very ready for
for the ones afterwards when they got their timings.
No, absolutely.
The play style of LGD just got completely countered
by Navi here in this game one.
Navi, take the first game.
Thanks a lot, Owen, and of course, Janice.
Great game by Navi.
They just look on another level, guys.
Like it's crazy.
I really like the LGD draft, but it just turns out,
Navi are playing this high tempo game
and it is catching people with their trousers down.
Yeah, pretty much.
This is Navi.
They are on the roll.
Seven games in a row that they won,
and they look good in every single one of them.
The drops that they had, they pretty much cooked,
especially in this one.
Like, we were a little afraid that this last exporter
could potentially jeopardize the streak
that they're having right now,
but it didn't do in the end.
And Niku, bringing out the classic,
It is becoming a counter to this mid-lane matchup that we are seeing, some of the rotations that he's making, the sustain, we talked about how, at one point it might come down to Lifestealer being unkillable, and it really showed.
You have Undying with the Heals, you have Marana with the supportive items, Stampede, Lotus on top of that, plus the Snowball. In these long drone-out fights, this is where Lifestealer really thrives.
This is looking really good for Navi in general, you know, they beat the dreaded dazzle nature's profit
They were able to actually take this out and deal with it in the laning phase
PMA, his Centaur looks amazing, the best Centaur in the tournament
But I do want to go back to Niku because this guy, in the interviews, it really feels like
He's kind of discovering that he's good, you know, in a way.
Oh, I get it, yeah.
Because he said, he said, like, I was talking to CY,
and we don't know why people are not picking Huskar.
Like, no one's picking it.
I think this hero's good.
I don't understand.
It was almost like he was trying to convince himself
that it was good.
And it's the same thing with the Undying.
But, like, this Navi is really confident in their ideas.
And I love that, because their ideas are fresh.
Fresh their ideas are obviously working. They're countering things that are like current top of meta and if they
If they want to do it if they want to go all the way, this is the way that they do it
Yeah, I'm gonna do you one better. I'm drew I think right. You know me. I'm a narrative guy
That's my world your exes and I was on a chalkboard. I'm a narrative, dude
I think in this post-ti shuffle. I think if you truly love Dota
You get behind this Navi team right now or you buy the dip before they go
thermonuclear towards the end of the year because we watch this Navi team
struggle but I just think got the juice and Niku as a pairing they're insane yeah
they are insane they're popping off they've got synergy they got this guy
behind them now like he's discovering his new levels I think Navi you're
going to do damage this year.
I really do.
Yeah, I really love the double gem
that is showing on the screen.
Like, can't really hide.
Yeah, it's like the eyes.
Yeah, it looks like.
Something exactly I can do.
One for each eye.
That's what I'm talking about.
This guy does not mess around.
He really is a gem.
Yeah, he really is.
He kind of nailed it with the rotations.
He said that they needed to have this type of a hero
after seeing that Undying is going to be mid.
They were not afraid to show it in the draft, seeing that they immediately picked Tusk plus Undying, while already having Marana saying this is a statement, this Undying, it is going mid.
And I also like the fact that the way they played in the game also showed that they have a very good map read, that they see LGD is going for Tormentor immediately after they go for Roshan.
Even though it's not like the best Rosh taking the lineup, they still take it, they give it to Gutt to Juse.
I also feel like kind of bad for LGD coming into the next game because they only managed to kill
Each core only once in this game
With a lineup like this with Earth spirit with the slaughter with the nature's prophet
These are heroes that can easily kill heroes on the map, but they just didn't push the tempo. Hmm talking about cause I'm drew the vibe
We're on divide watch
Seven minutes. Oh God. Well now I feel bad after watching a game
You know sometimes he does this and he can be a bit greedy and the build in this game
He skipped the Guardian Sprint because he's against lifestealer. That's a counter matchup
although going back
The old lifestealer got a lot more countered by this than the new lifestealer and the new Sardar is a lot weaker
Against lifestealer than the old Sardar. Bash has been nerfed a lot of times for example
So a lot of people just leave it at level one
But he wanted to counter a little bit harder so he goes for that level 2 in the bash and because of this by the way
What a damn arrow from Riddies everyone on Navi is playing to such a high degree right now
It's insane and then of course days is there love this. He has to be at every single engagement
I can't help but think if he had Guardians friend he
Survives here and you die once in a lane. You're supposed to counter you get absolute last pick. They're picking a
kind of off-medic hero to counter the life stealer and
You get greedy with the build and you die. It can be pretty devastating great coordination from now. Yeah, that was insane
That was great. That's just perfectly played. Yeah, absolutely
Ridiculously good arrow coming up from Marana and yeah, I think
Also the rotation that they made especially the one on undying when he was ready to just push push the tempo
And so we go early engagements. They break the numbers LGD. They were not ready to bring in an extra here
I think they needed the plus one to come into this fight because they are getting the brand over what's dies
They get a return kill on days, but I'm dying in these long drawn-out fights
It's just way too much because he has like three points in decay at the moment two points in solar
It's a bit of a heel that came come out stampede was also ready and you see slaughter just chilling at the top
I think he needs to be in this one. They need that extra bit of a control extra bit of a stun lock down
You even got the juice was there. Yeah, he joined and this is one of those fights that does set the tempo for the game
So I've got to ask you guys
I mean we've talked about this before and we've said that you know LGD sometimes when they lose it's like
You know, it's a throw away thing. They made an elementary error there. They're gonna course correct
Was this a case of LGDs, you know, we'll throw away the first game just to feel out our opponents or was
You are ready you need to play like you wanted to owe this and then go fresh bang it out
I know it's get the grand family
But they did have quite a lot of throat if we look at what like the difference between the carriers
Let's do it in the game. This is our nature's profit like he was fight ready
This is Mjolnir, this is Dragonlands we're talking about, he has level 2 ulti online,
it's an insane amount of damage that you can pump out and then compared to Gatadjus who doesn't
even have his radiance, I think at the time it was coming on the courier 30 seconds after this
timing, but you can definitely feel that they needed to push the tempo.
Do we want to put some of this on with? Because I feel, ah, he has been up and down this
I don't think that game was on him by any stretch.
I'll put some of it on Wits.
You will?
Yeah, and I want to go back to this concept of Dota body language.
Quinn talks about it in his videos.
I think it's a really brilliant concept.
You can see in just how someone's moving with their little micro movements,
how they're feeling.
There was one time the camera was on Wits and he killed some jungle camps.
It was like the side camps and he walked back towards them and then walked back to Triangle
and then walked back towards them.
He looked indecisive to me.
looked like he wasn't sure where Navi was on the map and for a high tier carry
player he knows he's got that instinct. What would you describe that to? Is he
getting some GPH of the aero nerves? It has to be nerves because like I said
he's a he's a top tier carry player he has the instincts for where people are
but he's overthinking things. Yeah absolutely you heard snaking like the
way he talks to them like great calm-coms telling them what they
need to do. It's pretty straightforward not repeating anything twice. This is years and
years of experience and he kind of feels that he needs to calm them down because sometimes
like wits can do the same thing, the vies as well in a losing game, they seem to need
a little bit more guidance. Perhaps the team fight, I might illustrate some of the points.
We've got that 19 minute clip for you, Andrew. Yeah, this one I believe was actually pretty
good for LGD. They had with TPing in with this massive network that he had and the
casters talked about it. It's a little responsive and they did have to wait for
a little bit of an over commitment from Navi to make this happen but you can see
how strong their heroes are when paired together with all five heroes. It's just
that the only situations in which this was happening was when they were
responding to things. They weren't really dictating the pace of the game
And I think against a lineup which honestly scales better. Yeah, just one second. I see what futuristic what?
Futuristic age a futuristic age who's watching on YouTube right now, which we love definitely like stream if you're doing that
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I don't know.
Show the patches.
It was very hard to find this actually.
They don't make the patches anymore.
So there you go.
But yeah, we do love our YouTube viewers and I'm sure our YouTube viewers love Jenkins.
We're going to take a quick break afterwards.
We'll see if LGD can get back into this one.
Not a guarantee.
We'll see you in a moment.
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Welcome back to PGLVLA here season 9. Your eyes do not deceive you. They're working. Yes, this is
Navi ahead in a series against LGD. We might be as surprised as you, but after that game, I mean,
it's been in keeping with what Navi have done across the course of the tournament. They're
rapidly discovering their identity.
You play a spirit, I'll play in dying in the mid.
We're gonna play high tempo.
You've gotta buy my cares,
because I'm Niku, I'm an absolute baller.
Navi are really establishing themselves
as a team to be worried about.
Yeah, they have an insane amount of momentum
coming into today, you can see it,
and they are gaining even more momentum in that game one.
So to me, this is where the captaining and the coaching
on LGD comes in, the experience of someone like Sumail
where they need to have gone back behind the stage
and had a talk of like, guys, it's all right,
here's what happens.
Maybe you're feeling a little nervous.
We need to make more moves.
Here's what we can do.
Perhaps we can pick these heroes to make it easier
for us to make moves.
Maybe Divya needs something that's more comfortable.
We talked about it.
heavily targeted. He got very targeted. They pretty much got the choose. You can see the
potentially three heroes for him in the first phase. This Neko could also be Wits, but definitely
feels that they will need to maybe prioritize his hero and pick it earlier in the draft.
Get him something that he can dictate the game with. Whatever LGD has been doing when
when they had these games, were they the ones that are in control and making the moves?
Copy that formula.
It makes sense that they're a new team.
If they are first-phase picking Sumail or picking him early, getting him these spirits
and then they have the two supports that are the ranged heroes, like the Dark Willow,
for example, spellcasters, if they have a formula and it works, it's okay to stick
to it.
I would like, over the course of multiple tournaments, because this, of course, is a very high
tier team that we're expecting to be tier one, that they are improving and having new strategies.
But for this one, it's probably enough to just stick to your guns of what got you here in the
first place. Agreed. Get to now the Void spirit. And remember, this is for a place in a grand final.
You are going to be taking on Yandex. That will be your reward. But for a team like LGD,
I'm pretty sure they had the expectation to be in the finals. For Navi, they're going to
to be in Dreamland. They're happy to be here. Yes, and they've made it abundantly clear.
And what's very interesting is maybe this let patch is the Navi patch. They are finding
the heroes that do the damage, finding the combinations that make them powerful.
And I gotta say like this Undying Ben, they don't want them because LGD probably thinking
that this undying was a big issue they could potentially snatch it from them on 13 and have
another super strong safe lane with this windranger potential. Imagine a world where you're playing
a dying mid and it's bugging people so much that even though it's your pick and you made it a real
thing you have to buy it out. Yeah that's so fun because they made it so cool your opponent might
use it again. It's a strong position 5 still paired up with a lot of good heroes
in the lane. It's an auto win type of a lane and we've seen it being super
effective against like certain heroes especially Doom. You put them in the
tombstone you're not taking the damage. So they will focus more on these
tempo heroes like we were talking about the lane winners undying, removed,
enchantress as well, snaking. That's a good game. Even though there was one
game where David didn't really play, he collected a full potential and this
This is what we said, they're probably going to prioritize his hero early on.
Doom has already been removed.
Hero that we talked about in the previous one, and that potentially if Timber comes out
Ursa can come out as a counter.
He's thinking about Invoker.
No, no, no, I mean, for sure, I mean look, they've left a lot of great mids in.
What I was going to ask you is, taking the Timber here, we've seen Timber countenance
at this stage so many times.
Oh yeah.
And there's still OD.
is still invoker like there's a lot in the pool that will counter timber there's
you can get the ember marana or or bane marana they go for it that's more of a
support okay well there's now the option of I hope they don't do it I don't like
the hero but Bane SF has always been a really good timber answer maybe I want
see something else GTJ his heroes like yesterday he picked TV into into this
timber saw and it took them quite a lot of time to find the answers because WS
was getting too much out of it up until a point where he got to him this time
around didn't really have those answers so I'd assume he doesn't want to pick
the TV at least not yet I would love to see at least from like the off-lane
There isn't
That many heroes that baby is afraid of maybe like wiper
I mean what about like Bane is a really good setup for the invoker sun strikes
Yeah, for sure if you down for invoker if you Bane invoker and then pick something that's like pseudo countering the timber in lane
I think that's enough
Because you the the Sun strike gives you just enough damage to push him over where you can actually kill him
We've seen well. Oh, yeah, well the Lena's still in the pool
Rallying is still in the pool. We've seen Niku play this quite a bit over the course of the tournament to the point where yesterday
I think it was extremely banning Lina against them. Maybe having some flashbacks to OD in Voker matchup
OD still left in the pool. It's a great save against Fiend's grip that could come out
So they are potentially
Pre-picking some of the counters as well just to have something doesn't get pushed out of the lane as in Voker can
Especially with the support rotations
I know it probably won't be relevant here, but you have talked about clinks as a counter to Timber
From the carry position. Yep. Could be elaborate as to why that is the case
Because of the armor the way his innate works it is very good against the Timby in general
I think this year was very good for the game
It sets up the tempo something that they needed to push in the previous game
It gives you tower damage with the new Agatom Scepter build.
The fights are pretty chaotic as well.
Seeking the high ground makes it easier where you get the roach taking potential.
So potentially a hero that they could be getting for themselves.
I know people tend to like Void Spirit in-game against Lina
because it's a hero that can jump and kill Lina,
especially if you have supports that can also rotate mid.
But we have seen our boy Niku do very well as Lina in matchups against spirits, so there is a world where you're just giving him a free lane.
I mean, I will say this, you can't go into a draft thinking, I'll ban out Sumail. That's not going to happen.
Yeah, there's too much. Pango's another really good option. We saw this one a little bit more on maybe the previous patch,
Where the idea is you just have a pure physical damage hero that is able to you just press roll and
You roll on the back line and you find Alina and you're doing all physical damage so that you know bullshit magic resist that she gets
That makes her otherwise unkillable
You don't care about that on pango. So actually like the I like the pango better than this
Doesn't have a great win rate here, but situationally Dom I think for decent
Yeah, I think it's like
20, 30%? 27. Yeah it's really not that great. The hero has been nerfed pretty heavily. Also a lot of
good heroes in meta are very good against mango and this is going to be,
so far I'm just looking at what snaking has been playing. He didn't play dark willow. I don't
think we've seen position 5 dark willows but we have seen lgd play bounty hunter from two
different roles. So probably gonna be a ranged hero in the lane for wits. I could
see potentially Windranger coming out that they still don't know the matchup
but it is gonna be one more time that they do believe in the hero.
They believe that this hero is like this is a hero that gives you damage
against a rolling thunder. You have fiends grip even if you grip him for
two seconds. TB with his overwhelming damage can bring him down
considering that there is no saves on LGD. So not that easy of a pango game.
I'm so curious what is the idea here with this the second time they picked TB in
the timber and it did not look good at least in the early game when yeah I
think it's like suck the early game and yeah you know in the light game to be
right to be fair they only do it when they already have other heroes that
answer the timber you know if I'm timber I'm not a huge fan of playing
into Bane, Lena, Marana, that's a lot of magical damage. It's pure damage. They have a stronger
support than the lane. They had Wyvern against Timbersaw when they were playing against Aurora.
This time it's Bane having pure damage. Should do better. And this is the hero that trades better
against most of the supports. I also think, you know, into the bounty hunter, it's kind of cool
because it can't really mess with your farm too much because the Illus are hitting camps and
doing all of that. And it's pretty easy to get a Sunder off in this game. Right now,
LGD either has to insta-burst the TB, which I think is hard to do if he's got a remote amount
of net worth, or they have to change on him with the pango roll until like terrorize. It's just
not the easiest thing in the world to execute, but to be fair, it's LGD. So if anyone can do
it, it's this team. Also, I didn't see the Namiz, but God the Juice loves this hero.
I think he really does they need to be aware of potentially pl coming out
I think it's a bit of a slower lineup from Navi. They have no ways of killing the illusions and
It could come out especially if they don't pick anything that could cover this
I would be down to ban axe just in case they are picking it blindly
Good wait mail game against most of these heroes good against the support great against Embersaw
relatively good against pango as well to be
set up for any of the spells that they have and they are going to be the ones
banning out the clings even though it is it could give them tempo so yeah I kind
of like this ban
okay there's the axe there's the axe so LGD still has the windrunner option that
you were yes talking about very early on down for windranger pickup for what's
It's it's super basic, but I really think that's all they need. You know, it's a it's a very stock standard here
I mean they'll see what the lane that she's up against if they had a different support
I would say it could be good tiny game. This is very good against both of the supports. It's very good against the Lena
If they want to go that route, but then you have bounty hunter tiny lane, which is not very nice
Yeah, it's not a lane that you are gonna be looking out for
I think when you ban a centaur and axe you probably are signaling we would like the windranger
BKB piercing yeah, this is I mean dude
This is such a well-rounded draft from Navi polar opposite the last one where you're like what the hell are they doing?
You know, but then they own in their own style
This is insanely well-rounded the BKB piercing stun does make it a little awkward to play windrunner
It doesn't really good against Beast and Lane, so you're totally okay there
And it's a decent Lincoln's fire as well, but having a BKB piercing disable against wind it does feel really good
And there is a chance that they run dark willow in like
Position five role played by Teolikor and then you have snaking played a position for with timber in the lane if they
They want to have a range support in the lane for them if they want to be picking up these
different heroes that we mentioned.
But I got to agree, Navi, they picked a very strong looking draft, quite a lot of tempo,
two good support duo that can play with Lina in the mid lane.
Great scaling, of course, you do have Terrorblade.
I don't think Terrorblade is really afraid of most of these heroes right now.
Timbersaw damage can be good, but he has a very good support cast, like push him
towards the good mid-game and late-game there's the PL yeah yeah it looked good
and that's why I thought that maybe for Navi they are gonna be picking up
something with the higher AOE like maybe maybe pick up underlord because a lot
of the underlord the counters have been gone and it's a it's a good PL game
that's that's why I mentioned it I feel like this PL can't take over unless
you're going to get pushed out of the lane. You are playing against Beastmaster, so I want to see who's going to be picking what seems like Yolikor is going to be going for the Dark Willow.
I just want to see if this, because I think if you play Bounty Phantom Lancer against Beastmaster plus Marana, you're not even for a good time.
No, no, no, that doesn't work. You've got to run, like Willow can kill the Bors. That's why I think you want to run it against the Beast.
It just it makes it makes much more sense the off lanes already going to be kind of hard and divide
Timber is a hero who wants to be left alone at some point
Yeah, and I think against TB Bane if you can get level three you can actually leave him alone
Which means BH can rotate and a lot of a lot of this game for LGD will be dictated by BH's moves
If he can get off to a good start
Then I do think that Timber can get some levels willow and pango can offer damage when he's setting up the
And then just make space for wits. It is a good PL game. So wits needs the space
But it's not like there's no damage on the other side for the PL illusions
There's also a world where Niko gets huge on Navi or PMA gets huge on bees gets an eggs
Even just high-level axes and PL can look pretty rough. Yeah, I don't know how much he's gonna give away
But see why it's with no man now on the sidelines
Yeah, back again with CY. Back again talking about Phantom Lance. I mean obviously last time
was a slightly different story, but this time around do you feel like you've got the tools
to deal with this hero?
I mean, it's not a very good carry matchup against DB and I think it's also good against
Lina. I'm wondering if Beast can go X and maybe it used to be a big counter for Peel,
but it's been nerfed many times. So I guess we'll have to see. Also, no matter
what, this hero needs some time. And I'm not sure it's with style. I don't
him too well yet, but I'm not really sure it's his style to like AFK farm so we'll have to see if
yeah. We shall see indeed but you guys are on a tremendous streak at the moment seven games in a row
how do you keep everybody in check how do you stop everybody going sort of too confident or is that
not a thing in Na'Vi? It's weird because it is a thing in Na'Vi and they are very young and
like energetic and they start talking too much and tell them to chill and just reset like
it's basically like after a loss you know you also need to reset like you cannot be too
hype so I think they've been better at also being more chill themselves like we go outside now for
example after game one and it's not like we're talking about oh look did you see what I did and
like all this stuff you know it's just I don't know people could just quiet just chilling and it's
really good from my experience that's a really good sign generally yeah yeah it seems like you've
got the team on a really good path mentally as well heading towards one of their best finishes
as well you know have you thinking about the grand finals already or are you still completely
looked at on this series. No I think you cannot you cannot think like that like it's just even
if I think about it like I will use some mental capacity like let's say think about yandex or
whatever and it's not useful at all because like we're not playing yandex right now we're playing
lgd so yeah you never know what happens like I'm just focusing on this series and then real
series. All right well talking about this series you know obviously game number one uh was not
great for lgd they had moments but they didn't quite bring it home uh what do you think went
wrong for them in the first game?
I mean, during draft, I kind of, it's a kind of new hero they're going to pick, and in
the end I was thinking, do I want to pick Slotter and take it from them, or give them,
or like retake Kent.
And like Slotter is good with NP and stuff like that, but I was also thinking, in my
head, it's not really the Vylamas like best hero.
If it was Amar, maybe I would do it differently.
But yeah, I figured like it should be fine, and my carry tells me it's going
to be chill.
They're going to do okay.
the draw and yeah like that was kind of our game plan so it kind of went as expected you
could say. Alright thank you very much CY and good luck in this game number two let's see
if they can keep it going on Navi as we get into game with OD Pixel and Fogged. Thank
you very much there no matter the CY yes game two time here Navi versus LGD. I said
we get ourselves a bit of a closer game that last game Navi looking quite a bit of
a step ahead of that of LGD's performance.
Fogg, what do you sort of make of the
Justice time around? I think you know,
see why at the end, or at the beginning of
what you were saying, was talking about
this PL that LGD ended up going with.
And indeed, I identify there has got strengths,
but it might not necessarily be
someone that's Witze's play style.
And look at it, it's kind of Witze's carry pool.
It's definitely not one of the carries he usually goes for.
No, he likes to play more.
He's an aggressive player.
That's usually what we've known him as,
Yeah.
Even before TI, we always talked about him being like a super aggressive kind of star player here.
This is a much more passive wait for yours very specific timings to shop and it shows up much later than things in usual.
So, Dave is going to take quite a bit of a beating here.
Did not want to just go leap, it looks like, to just get away from things.
So it's going to be interesting because obviously from CY's perspective, this was not a hero that he would ever like ban.
No.
Or even though they had a draft that he's like, okay, PL is kind of good against this because he's like they don't play the PL.
Yeah.
And we'll see if LGD and Witz are able to show them, but yep, they do play it and it's
something that maybe Witz has hidden up his sleeve and he's ready to show it today here
against Narvi.
Yeah, because historically, right, TB versus PL, PL as the later game goes, it's fantastic
for the PL, TB just starts to get overwhelmed with all these illusions, so you can absolutely
see the matchup.
Snaking is going to be playing the bounty hunter, I think I've said it to you
a lot.
Snaking just looks way better.
PL looks very uncomfortable when he's playing that bounty.
This lane though, it's still not the easiest to play.
a bounty timber length so they kind of have to play the lane because you can't pull the
lanes as effectively as a bounty when you're playing for his band.
Riddies can just get the sleep and you sleep him every time he tries to go for those wave
pulls.
This time maybe let's sleep Snake and can't pull the wave.
He's going to try for it Riddies is going to try to cut him off with the sleep and
if you do get that sleep it just stops the pull completely in his track so.
I'll see ya.
We'll be able to dodge the arrow but I'm still thinking quite a bit of harassment
there when the balls are out.
Yep.
He's gonna at least get the wave into a perhaps a bit of a better position here for divide
But not really actually got the juices controlling it quite beautifully
So see how divide ends up dealing with this pressure
It's gonna be a slower start from him
Even though he's a timberverse TB in the matchup in the midgame is good
The lane doesn't look the easiest. Sne though this could catch Niku off guard
Quick move
It's not expecting that at all that Niku. I'm somehow is gonna be very happy with that first blood for him
I don't know why I keep thinking of this but maybe it's because snaking is playing bounty hunter
It reminds me of when I used to play with snag I'd be like getting owned in mid because I just wasn't very good at
Versalize but I'd be snag help me and he would come and gank for me at level one
So that is like she reminisces. Yeah, I mean as we said we saw snagings bounty the other day
And it looked like one of the best bounties we've seen honestly throughout the tournament right here absolutely did
He did so much that game that we did have to buy on a dark seer right with the iron shell
So there was something that was taking it to another level and it's still already showing that snaking
He's got he's got the moves ready to be made here is his bounty
Does he get himself away it looks like he will blood grenade won't take him out
Like grenade as well to see how active he wants to be around the map
So looking at this bottom side the Beastmaster though. We don't see it as much
I I wonder if PM8 does do that agonist dick is why I was considering
Yeah, I was talking about it as well too, because it's gotten a nerf, of course, but looking at their line-up, they do want to have this kind of insurance policy versus the pre-ale, perhaps, so maybe does do, let Overlord into agonims, we'll have to see what PMA wants to do, it depends on how this lane goes, of course.
Which, so far, for Wits, pretty good. Even now it has the bounty hunter with him, so they could look to set up with some kills, maybe on the bounty hunter. On the Marana, he can skill leap, so, might have been harder.
bit harder. Yeah, it won't even be completely forced in there. It's able to just walk off
through the brambles. And I think for you and me, you know, watching this Navi team,
I don't know how long we've been following them since they were Navi Junior, right?
It's like one of the early dreamlings, right? They've been watching these teams for like
four years, and they are a very young player. So to watch them make it to this point,
it's always a treat to see. They're one of my favorite teams for, yeah, since
They're still doing kind of fun new stuff, right? We saw you know last game. Who else is doing the Niku mid undying?
Exactly. Somebody else. Niku isn't all they else is. They're gonna be able to bail them out. There's Niku's fine.
The bailout from the teammates and he gets the water rune too, so he's gonna be safe.
I could support reactions there from Nabi. Bottom lane though, Whitsun Theo able to punish PMA whilst he's on his own.
We'll see Bayes jump in and take the water ring away.
He's caught in the river though and does still end up dying.
Look, it's snaking. He's being very annoying here.
LGD woke up this game. Last game they were being a little bit slow with the way that they made the moves this game.
Already seeing some more potential in terms of how aggressive that they're being with this bounty hunter.
Yeah, and I mean, a bit of a rough spot there for Niko to die in.
He was still just around in the river, super low HP after the team had done their best to bail him out.
Not a hero that you want to get slowed down like this on, right?
I usually have lane Dominator that just takes advantage of having the extra items from that gold that you get from dominating the lane.
He's level 4, Sumel's level 5 and a half, so it might be a case when Niku now just has to jungle to catch up a little,
but they already have the work place for him, they see this, they can bypass and go for the kills too.
Hot start for LGD, and Wich now at this point, it's going to be a free farm for Niel.
Those are the movements they've been having to do all over the place.
Setting up Wich for success.
He's in again onto PMAC.
The Snake King just up and down the map, sure does die here,
but absolutely done his job.
We'll see on the heat map.
He's been everywhere.
I mean, the Snake King bounty hunter, it's looked terrifying.
I'm surprised they have, because they've only put out
one game before this, right, in their whole run
of this tournament.
Surprised we've not seen more of this.
I've seen this here on too many games.
He just runs the whole game, right?
Like, you're so disruptive.
Snake and Courier is giving information,
getting these type of kills that are unexpected and so far divide he's handled
the offline sure he's behind right but it's fine if you're just not dying as
the timber so if you're able to sustain it so the movement's pretty key right now
from the side of LGD 2k lead in these first six minutes perhaps a power
moon also secured some strong thunders at the ready
they'll get it not the greatest rune but still a fill up through some mail
Beastmaster's having a jungle, well, yeah, he's pretty much having a jungle now at this point.
To go for this Dominator that's going to be quite a bit slower than I think they wanted it to be.
Having to help out their mid-Lina so many times already here in the first six minutes.
Snanking? Let's sap in some XP, keep an eyes on Niku.
Continue to be very annoying. Theo is on the side too, so if Niku steps up just a bit too far, they're going to go for it.
Absolutely are snanking.
Oh, didn't quite get the initial stun, but might not matter.
The rolling thunder should be connecting a second time.
It's a male coming back across.
It's enough.
It's a male.
Finishes him off under the tower.
Snaking might die, but again, snaking doing exactly what
he wanted to.
Being a nuisance here for Navi and setting up for LGD
to get these big kills.
And fast moves from LGD.
Their macro game this early game, swing to bottom,
wisdom.
PMH does not want a contest versus this.
They're going to be able to get the double.
Beautiful, Storm.
And Navi, they're trying to respond.
That's what we are seeing from the deck.
We need to help our Niku.
Even with the rotations we've seen,
they're unable to really assist him too much,
and the other, then, decidedly, is suffering.
Sure, TB is free-farming, but look at PMA now,
at this point.
It's only level four.
So now, let's go a bit bit careful.
Niku has turned up.
No man on base.
Doesn't have anything for Arrow or for Star Storm.
Level 5, Lina at 7 minutes 30 seconds, something you don't see too often, as I said, a lane-dominating
hero has been shut down pretty hard here, which potentially even going to get this bottom tower
too.
Pushing PMA away, already level 6, big level differences between the mids and the off
lanes.
The ideal start, you're actually winning more lanes than maybe expected, right, and
you're making space for the PL at the same time.
This time, they'll get him. So, kill the way.
Unfortunately, I've got the juice. Riddies is the one who gets the last touch on that, but they'll get the buyout of the lane.
Got the juices having a very good entry into the game though.
And across the board, right, versus multiple of the heroes, he is quite good.
It's the PL and the pango that are pretty annoying.
The PL and the team are both staying king. Sets up another.
This bounty, it's getting in the heads of Na'Vi for sure.
He's, yeah, he's honestly dominating the whole game right now.
He's level five already, now he's double blocking camps too.
The Lina camps that Niku wants to farm to be able to catch back up with.
Stealing creeps.
It got dust.
But he's speedy.
Is he speedy enough now?
They'll finally get rid of him.
A lot of time spent by the supports though to deal with this bounty hunter.
I have seen the results in those side lanes.
PMA, Dominator, it's gonna be coming out soon, but like I said, quite a bit slower than
he ideally wants it, and Witz, he is massive.
Gonna have his Yasha.
And the overall game for the PL, right?
It's a man, right?
Across the board.
There's really not many of these heroes that likes to play versus Phantom Lencer
if he gets off to a good start.
A.O.E. is not the best, especially not if Lena's this far behind too.
Not.
A tough start here for Na'Vi.
So Mel, I believe, already has the Diffusal Blade picked up too, so...
1700 different difference between him and Niku.
This could be a much slower one for Na'Vi, and when you're playing a slow-paced game
as a Terrablade versus a P.O., that's not the ideal.
You want to be kind of setting the tempo, hitting these buildings, not allowing the PL to just get to the item timings where he full counters you.
So a pretty ideal start at the moment here for LGD.
Like this game I would say, we're at the last one, they can go, okay, we've got a lead, we can kind of chill back a bit more.
Since they do have that PL vs. TB matchup, just a carry-to-carry matchup in particular.
I think he's on the lookout for the CB
It's been so annoying
British does have the century down. They know that snake is still in the area
That's the dust and I'm gonna catch him
He is out of there my goodness the time being spent from both supports. Oh because of this little bounty on top
and
which the map say for their cause no they need to somehow get the bane and the
morana together so they can go for like sleep into arrow combo plus a follow-up
because they just don't have any way to really make plays besides that at this
point until they have a little bit more items where PMA wants to get
involved. As Niku he's in full recovery.
I got the juice, the only one right now in Na'Vi that's in some sort of position that
he'll be happy with it.
And just not the easiest TV game on paper when you look at it.
Timbersaw can clear the illusions, Pangol can be annoying just to chain stun you and
then PL just has the counter matchup.
So, in a pretty ideal position in these first 11 minutes.
Navi, how are the levels looking?
They have Grip available for Riddies now, so they do have a way to set up these plays
a little bit easier.
So risky that they have to have so much vision set up in response to this bounce
if they want to try and set something up.
They're just counting.
There's a high chance that Snake King's
going to have eyes on any sort of move they make.
And if they don't know where he is,
you do a fiend's grip.
He just taps you once, cancels it,
can be extremely disruptive.
Pressure at the mid tower too.
Nico's trying to spam it out.
He's going to be going for the box build.
He's going for the greed.
So play, look at the chance he used the grip.
Catch Divide.
Divide?
Very aggressively postured there.
I saw him keep beating the tower.
I didn't think he would push that far forward because he's the only one that's really at
risk of dying here.
He thought he backed off, go to the triangle, get that farm going for himself.
So that's actually quite a big kill.
I would say that Navi's able to find like this.
to play around bottom, perhaps to contest that wisdom.
No follow-up for the roar, not enough mana, not enough resources to go for the play.
And that will probably mean that the wisdom does get stolen, so they'll be able to get
the double.
That's really just got the juice getting that farm.
Niku slowly making the recovery, but as we've said for multiple times for these Lina's,
recovery does not feel the best.
Ooh, they're gonna try and do an aggressive play here, they have, they don't have
grip actually.
No grip.
And no stun on Lina.
That's amorphous up there. That's it.
If they had a light-strike already though, maybe but without what they sleep and just nuke him
I guess if they do find the opportunity onto the device
I mean I probably won't kill the vial at least it's gonna give time for someone to come in
So he's about to have LSA so he's 12 experience from having it
Which would probably enable them to get that kill with the sleep cell. Yeah, he's in a farm
Maybe if they found someone squishy around this triangle, but
Doesn't look like Navi's gonna be able to get a catch with this move
I don't think he's getting away with everything here, even though he's died twice, still has
good timings for his Kai of Sange, PL's timings are great, it's a male.
This is greedy farming from Niku and he will get away with it.
I would play around with his vision.
Oh, he is scaring him.
Oh, he is struggling to find an entry into this game.
It's snaking those towards the tip of his way.
Yeah, the Snape bounty hunter, truly getting in their heads in this game. He's already one of eight, too.
That's gonna be a long go at the juicy shoulders in this game. Can he kind of solo carry this?
And it's just not really the easiest game.
Into one of the harder carry matchups for a Terra Blades.
Okay, so it's difficult.
We are seeing PMA as we expected, right?
Pivoting toward that agonist to try to have more answers for the PL.
But he is very slowed down in this game, both of them, the mid and the off lane.
Time to group up for a look for a play, but the ward's already placed, Theo. He sees everything.
Should be able to dodge the game here.
Overall, Navi's draft at this point, it's much more pick-off oriented, right? Very single target heavy, while the side of LVD, they can just...
I feel like any fight that comes themselves, if they have even close to the numbers, should just be able to take those fights.
So, Navi, they need pick-offs to come back in this one.
Yeah, because as we said, we haven't seen a lot if any kind of wits PL, but in this position with this sort of start, you know, which he's going to have played enough PL to be very likely just take this sort of position and just win the game right.
Yeah, it's natural.
If you have this lead, you know, this spot as a PL at this point, the game kind of already feels like it's all yours.
They just do not have, they don't have control for the illusion.
Not really a damage for the illusions as it progresses either too.
So if Wits keeps his cool, he should be able to kind of take this game and the victory pretty easily.
It really does look like smooth sailing for Wits in this one.
And not one where he, as he said, doesn't feel like he needs to get involved as much.
No, this time it's, yeah, I mean, maybe that's sort of what they identified his team.
But I've asked him, like, if you want to play that sort of style, let's draft you that kind of style.
And the PL, you know, fit perfectly for the lineup.
And it's, you know, so far so good here from Wits with the timings that he's hitting.
Yeah, looking much better.
Staking, just continuing to just give information.
And Navi's just getting out farmed.
They're getting out resourced across the map too.
Devi continuing to just stack his ancients.
I believe he has another triple stack.
And for Navi, they do not really have access into their triangle as easily so.
That's risky.
There's going to be that extra farm for LGD.
Niku's trying.
Look where he's farming the dragons, right?
That says the tale of all of it.
He's very scared to walk over to the left because the bounty hunter is scouting.
He's just getting every power run, so now he's got amp damage for the next fight.
He's got his blink dagger to jump in on top of the lina also.
Now he'll probably just, I wait for the PMA agonims to get some extra strength burst because
Niku's just not really getting much stronger.
Because in the past, how strong of a counter was the axe Beastmaster to the PL?
Well, when you got the full heal, they changed the way it works versus Illusion and then they nerfed the drums and slums as well.
So there's a combination of nerf that can change from then to now with this axe build?
But it's still going to be something.
Yes.
A lot of something against the PL? Do you think it could look quite underwhelming?
It's the fact that it's going to come this slow. It could look quite underwhelming, right?
What to say I haven't seen it versus a you know these illusion carries as much anymore
After all these nerves
And you can't only be just the Beastmaster right that's the other thing to the other four heroes are just not very good versus the key
I'll divide no gonna find it
Ships passing in the night
And they expect us and expected the bounty for those actually just divide minutes of breaking it and divide now is
is pretty much he's getting closer and closer to having that lotus to it's an amazing lotus
gameplay versus the roar versus the fiend script snake again and that's gonna get the roar
after the corner they're gonna burst it
a roar and that says a lot about how annoying he's being top dog to catch
grip and tower and the damage of the terror blade is enough to bring down the fight
You see West, he's ready to turn up and try and fight.
Gonna look over towards the Bane, take out Reddy,
he's now gonna turn over towards the TB,
try to TP out, got the juice, but they'll put his stuff to it.
We'll get a good Sunder off.
Sumail's kinda dying.
Not the juice, got it.
Four heroes on LGT dead there, and got the juice,
he's able to walk away.
I think got the juice to take that.
That was insane. He just turned,
changed the illusions onto the Willow,
then changed the illusions onto the...
That was insane.
Very good target prioritization there with the illusion micro from got the juice
Yeah, he's just kind of is alright. You want to fight into me?
I will do it and even with which turning up show which himself was it no trap dying
But apparently everyone else was actually this terribly got the juice kind of cleaning up
And he's got his work cut out for a most game
But my goodness that was crazy how he just turns it hits them all because you feel from LGD
They're like all right. We've got the gang here. Wits is ready to go
We'll kill the pain nice and easily, but then they're like all suddenly
Destroyed by the damage got the choose thing getting this good sander off taking so much health away from some male
It causes some male to die like we can we rewind for a second?
I don't know. I am oh wait. We can do that. We got the technology. What I'm gonna see
Please look at the little to be a mini illusions also from like the PL for the reflection or something they get better
Oh the little time was really reflected with them. What do you mean there?
I don't know maybe I was seeing something but I just saw some like PL reflected illusions metamorphosis
Maybe I'm just whatever that did insane damage is all that I just saw though got the juice
He's got his work cut out, but damn that was an amazing fight Niku still trying to find the recovery
Still very far behind very vulnerable
Doesn't need to go VKV. It feels like as the next item versus all this physical damage
But my god got the juice
This game he'll go butterfly.
Oh yeah, I forgot.
Yes, for sure.
Especially because PL doesn't itemize nurses.
Sure, but a lot later.
Yeah, and at that point obviously the Terrablade has ways to remove it.
You can have a team mate with something as well, such as a Lotus.
Yeah, this on a Terrablade butterfly at this time feels fantastic.
Already feels like God the Juice is overperforming.
They're doing a lot of heavy lifting here for the team.
And as we saw, you know, he can kill everyone else.
So whilst the PL might be able to win the battle as the action is drawn out,
if everybody else is dead and everyone on Navi isn't quite yet dead,
and they can get these sort of situations where it's just where it's left,
Navi might be able to deal with him.
They might. And it's going to be up to PMA, right?
He's got the agonies now done, he buys trances as well.
Excellent attack speed. Gonna look for that right click, though. Go for the BKB next.
Perhaps it could be more and more of these answers that they're starting to build together to deal with that PL.
Sneak-o now, only a thousand behind. He's just hitting the creeps, Sumel's making the plays, and dying there did hurt him quite a bit.
This butterfly timing's gonna be very strong.
Sure, they've got ways to go through it with the timber, but as we see, Divy has to be a bit more careful with this positioning.
They're going to go for a Roche play.
Now get away with the lucky shot with the illusions.
They do it very safe and in a pretty good case as well.
I feel like one thing that also does make this quite a nice, terribly game
is that it's just not really one-way.
I got the juice, it never has to really consider a BKB right.
Sometimes it's like, you might need one, but this game is like,
No, it doesn't really. There's not a huge amount of stuns. There's not any crazy
Dammit magical burst. So just building the HP building this edge
You know the ideal sort of build up as a terribly this butterfly into Scottie feels really nice here
Yeah, just go for the standard. Yeah, butterfly into that Scottie. He doesn't buy the shard yet. Does he have to finish not yet?
Usually see that
A lot of tablets they buy very early, right?
Yeah, at least for me what I've seen Yatoro do, Yatoro buys them immediately.
So, see if Guthard just does pick it up soon, because it does increase your farm pretty fast here,
but maybe he is thinking he needs these bigger timings.
But yeah, it's been interesting to see that he has bypassed it.
Look at Guthard, looking to accelerate again. Game has slowed down.
Oh, the jeep's here from here now.
I said I won't see the part of Rammel.
Trying to smash that, but it does still get caught out.
Game was slowing down pretty heavily, so glad to see that they can't find this connection again here.
Get PMA. They see his aggonyms now too, they know the build that he's going for.
And they turn it into more.
They've got this Aegis for another four minutes or so, ideally wanting to try to take over some of these tier twos would be what they'd like.
It looks like they're more about the kills. It looks like they are- I mean Wits is gonna push the top, cause the rest of them are gonna hunt.
Dubai? They might turn for him. They're thinking about it. Got the juicers sides against. Yeah
There's just the chance that there's gonna be back up for device. They can't really come out with a grip play
British will go down
There was a slight consideration of it there, but now they're up against. I see Niku here with the track and they chase it
The boys gonna try no blink of some mail for three seconds. They've got the crippling crawl
No, no, no.
And then of course he just turns, he kills off Snake King.
Still those who may have a divide cannon on top of him.
They will be there pushing back on to days,
but PMA comes out with the raw onto Theo.
So they might have gotten me, but they do end up losing two kills for it.
The fights are trying to go out on this, and they can't.
With the back of the wins, they dive straight on forward.
They can't PMA.
Can you get the Murana too? He really wants the win.
He's diving pretty deep here.
He'll send the illusions in.
We'll start to pull back himself
He doesn't finish up the cheer to top though wits. He was hitting it
He actually ran completely across the map to get to his team. So trying to get involved this course
We'll be able to take out those two heroes. There's two cores
And that is the Scotty and then it'll be the bloodthorne so he will be going for that answer for the TV
Yeah, that's gonna be the really scary time because
And it's very much a game still to lead the LGD half that if they can find one fight where they do kill the terror blade
It's gonna count it's indeed this game is gonna be over pretty quickly. Yeah, they just kind of need to kill got the juice
The ones yeah got the juices isn't buying the shard. I guess okay. Yeah, I don't think I've seen that for the TV before this
Will survive
Link dagger on Theo after the yule's good ways to follow up good ways to control
playing much more confident this time it does feel like with their heroes. Divide playing
his timber even though he's gonna picked off a couple times. I just, I don't know, when
I see Divide playing his heroes you can see the difference compared to like the Slaver.
He just looked a little bit more iffy on it. Still having this Aegis now for the
1.5 can look to pressure the top side. And itemization right for LGD, they can
just keep massing lincoln's lotus arms and it feels very good they're playing
versus band and beast masters but they didn't get one reflect they can't just
decide a fight well for the side of navi itemization just complicated they just
don't have natural ways to deal with pl and itemization just doesn't really do
it at this point
they's getting close to agonim so some extra aoe tools at least something
Slowly they might flank out the juice here.
They do.
Oh, has he got away?
Out of this, doesn't look like it.
Yul's in a row, he does that into the fair.
The Chakram ends down.
He'll get a chance to suck that, but there is no half coming for him.
And that's that one kill.
He has a guard made again.
A whole 70 seconds without him.
Massive amount of time for LG to get that push going.
can probably take at least one to two of the tier twos
To the lines being drawn there from Theo. He's a pressure everywhere. They've got no terror blade
We have no fear whatsoever now at this point
50 seconds
Lovey
Trying to shove the lanes out you saw Niku shove mid, but I do think they saw where he was going
Niku does have to be a bit cautious himself. He has BKB. He gets it from the initial shadow. Oh, okay
pretty speedy. If he gets him from the first shadow walk, he's dead.
Wits gets on top of him. He will just get brought down.
It's just crazy damage right now, having a great game, 6-0-2.
Perfect game for him. Yeah, it just feels like that even though we don't...
This is not something that we've been seeing from Wits.
It feels to kind of fit the play style that he's kind of been doing on some heroes
that haven't been working out on other heroes.
That sort of style fits him perfectly when he's on the PL.
They've also gotten a very good last pick PL, and he got a pretty great lane.
They've got a really nice PL game to play, yeah.
And the fact that it's like snaking, the way that he pressured the map, there was nobody
even in the bottom lane, right?
Snaking forced double rotations from the supports of the mid lane, and Niku still
died over and over again, so some very, very good pressure plays in this early
game from LGD have gotten them to this point, where Witch just looks untouchable.
They do not have the hero answers for him now at this point.
item answers and got the juice 1600 off the the scarty as the BKB done on PMA
maybe be a little bit more of a frontline presence in these fights perhaps I
they might just have to smoke and look for something I think you're sitting back
and farming at this point is not an option for Navi go for the smoke play
trying to stall in on someone with the raw the grip the BKB beast master
the metamorphosis yeah you hope that you can find like obviously the PL by
itself but again that's gonna be super hard so go for one of the other two
cores but these are not very easy now at this point. Davai is getting close to
having a heart and Sumail looks like he's ready for it so perhaps baiting
they might dangle Davai out and then go for the counter-gank play because they
might anticipate that Navi's doing this move. Thank you so also all around
and already for any sort of move that comes in it's a bit hard now and they
get the scan anyway it only caught on to the Marana in the river but it
it away. You can see Nobby just backs away. And that's the heart. It's a divide. I don't
even know if they have to, they don't have to fall, hit him with everything it feels like
just to bring down this timbersaw now at this point. And that's just gonna allow free
rein, which already Whitz has had. And he's just gonna fly around the teamfights,
target to target with the illusions destroying each and every one of them
I'm wondering how it's the itemizer I'm like PMA do you just go like sheep I you
need something else you need to start full itemize for getting PL yeah but
it's so hard to even think about what you get because you want to talk to me
I've got to go me on it you know I mean sure get the blink but go some sort
of me owner acts BKB on Niku he is spotted again does have to be as
could be Kenny. Can't mess around as to use it each and every time to TP out of these situations.
Okay got the two, Scotty is done, does get to this timing. Where does he go next?
Probably a damage item. It's gotta be Daedalus, sir. It's just gotta be that big damage item.
Ooh, going for extra, okay so wants some cleave I guess, so Hydra breath into Daedalus.
Oh alright that looks a little bit. A little bit. Yeah.
Yeah, it's going to be nice as well when you're trying to take down the temper saw. Yep
It's much damage as possible at this point, but this smoke it needs to connect
It needs to connect on a big core hero for the two
Device fairly separate
So they want to try and go through and they've got the raw
In the arrow and it is easily enough here with the tariff later out
And they saved the grip for the next target too. That is a pretty monstrous kill they're able to find here.
Okay, taking a tower.
Nobody anywhere near to find.
If he has even one hero with him, like a willow, he blips.
It could get him, actually, yeah.
That's actually a pretty big kill that they're able to find here.
I didn't expect LGD to be that split up after that.
that.
Radiant's top talent is under attack.
Okay, Sergio Mane forgot the juice right after putting up the Scotty now.
He essentially has the rest array if he wants to go for it.
Would be a pretty ridiculous performance if he forgot the juices.
Yeah, to be able to carry this game.
This versus PL, when his other two cores have been shut down so much in this game.
outside of that one time they caught him it has looked very good from got the
juice has been playing it cleanly rush 45 seconds
LGD cannot give up the rush they definitely don't I mean they don't want
to give up the rush by any means here should have very good ways to fight
around it as long as they do have themselves positioned properly just
take you don't get picked off again don't get too split up here on the
side of LGD, because you are extremely strong still at this point.
Gold lead is starting to shift a bit.
Of course, what? 12k down to the 8k from those moves. Snaking will tank an arrow.
Ashfrosh is going to die very quickly though.
Let's back up.
Scouting out the situation outside of the pit first before they head in LGV.
I don't imagine they're just going to give it up for free.
They could try and fight. Meta is back up, Paul got the juice.
They've also gotten to the BKB for Niku plus the Pike so has some defensive capabilities to actually play around now too.
Agonyms also for Riddies, they're starting to get quite a bit of tools together here to fight back.
Do they have enough to fight versus the PL is the question since it's such a good PL game.
Yeah, it looks like that
Okay, they're opting against go near that bush. It's my god. Did you see it's next time?
I should say it's reason it back to the table is right on the hydras. Okay. Yeah
I thought that's what he was gonna do
So the Falcon blade and he did that they was pick up there. So he's gonna help
If they can find these type of right like we said for Navi
Yeah, or these like pick-off type of things
But if they can find like one kill into another they do have high burst damage now at this point of single target
And they're not necessarily impossible fights for Navi, just very hard ones and still ones
in which we're yet to see them be able to take down the PL, which is still going untouched.
They're really starting to recover in terms of economy though.
Even Niko, look at him, he's actually caught completely back up versus the Pango as well.
And he was having a rough game.
He was having a very rough one.
He's just been able to sit back and he's actually at over 10 CS a minute now at this
point, which is usually pretty good.
I'm sure it's not amazing for Lina, but it's quite good.
After like the hardest game I think I've seen equal having some time on his Lena
Now we see that last it's seen without
Solar recovery
I'll be having a chance
Yeah, definitely having a chance to have this point. Let's talk about the supports of items right agonist Marana agonist main
They will start to actually contribute something into these teamfights as well
These PLs, most games, right 35 to 40 minutes plus if they are at this point they usually
end up dominating, but Navi, building more and more answers perhaps as we're seeing here.
How much are you going to want to get done with this Aegis?
Are they looking at the high ground, looking at Barracks?
I imagine they're looking for fights.
I don't know about pushing high ground so much unless they find the fight outside
because they don't naturally hit buildings very easily, but they're finding kills.
Outside
So he's able to get the BKB off just gets the roar off
So male does have lincoln so he was protected or sleep a Navi. They're fighting back
Chasing forward even into these ages they scout with if you see them on the south side
Theo looking for Nico
Bossing over they're gonna be able to get strung top with the lean a he does have the BKB
and they've got nothing to stop him through it so it's resets another successful retreat
getting got the juice to a very dangerous point here i i'm very impressed how he's keeping up in
farm he's mad there's a i'm this whole game yeah i'm not barely been more than a couple of
thousand behind that wits and PMA he's starting to switch up what item he really
wants to go for to I think he's queued up with four different things now what's
the other moment to queue up a requirement I was thinking something small so
you could break the Lincoln so he can actually get the roar off but there's
just not really good options for him yeah he's gonna spend up for the man
so yeah I think you just go your own scaling build and it kind of does a
bit of everything right gives you the extra level of safety and also nice
stats expert attack speed they sold the dominator right yes the dominator is
gone so he's going full into the right click right click axe beast master that
back in the day was one of the strongest things he gets to pay up not being
perhaps beginning to believe even though they know how big this pl is maybe
telling themselves we do have some more answers that are starting to build up
here. LGD is definitely hemorrhaging some kills on the map here that he's getting them into this
position. He's at Neku's scaling. It definitely feels like it's getting more complicated than LGD
would have hoped for with how good of a game they've set up for Wix on the PL. Look at this
terrible, he's got the Hydra breast now too. It's just done, yeah. Doesn't have any defensive
things right, just has the mantle, but as you're saying right, it's not really a game where
he wants too much extra defensive. Of course, he can get the synthetic if he fantastic, but...
Mainly because you're just unlikely to be able to stop got the juice from pressing Sunder on someone right
I guess outside of sort of the linkers and lotuses and those sort of plays
But you don't have heavy lockdown unless you get a perfect kind of angle for bouncing back and forth rolling tenders
Like you'll get the press buttons we'll get the react of the juice
They feel like how to do is kind of going to run away with this game, but the Navi fighting back nicely snaking off in that part.
Yeah, they'll take that.
Jaminiku, so he's got protection as well too.
Just these little kills here and there, slowing the game down.
And LGD, right?
Sure, they've got Aegis, but it's about to start.
It's about to go.
And their heroes, they don't really hit buildings, right?
PL, Shurt, if he gets to a gank, enough point he can, but it's dangerous versus lineup as well for the Navi.
And especially without the ages, I guess even though you're as far as drives the PL
You don't really want to start the push
No, you can't because if you're gone if you get caught
Bowen
They did not get a whole lot done with this edges. Navi's gonna smoke out and look for a fight now if they catch
If they find Wits
That's gonna be concerning for LGD. Oh god, let's say he's gonna be alright though. He's on the south side
PMA's right on
He tries to go for the roar, but won't roll lucky, gets an Illusion and they'll bail out the fit.
He'll sketch onto the plane, so they'll lose Riddies.
Having him try for a right, he's surrounded by this, give it a shot, maybe you'll find the right one.
So extended from what you're seeing still.
So Navi tried to go for this aggressive play here, now BKB is going to be on cooldown for the beast.
See how much LGD wants to take advantage of this and all again not the
easiest for them to just charge up on the high ground maybe there's just gonna be
more of this control map and farm keep pressing this advantage forward getting
more and more gold lead because Sumail is getting more scaling also right
does have the Bastion out to picked up sure we're mentioning how Niko is
Just getting that extra scaling, but Sumail is still also.
And during this control, watching them picking up the Lotuses, right?
So I think they have at least two or three greater healing Lotuses on the side of LGD.
I think Navi also has at least one, but always those big surge shields on the fights
can make a difference.
So it feels quite hard for Navi of course, just into the PL, they stagnated the game to
a point here.
Maybe not as hard as it could have been.
The fact that they do have a bit of a chance around got the juices terribly against LGD.
It's just how good of a PL game it is is the problem, right?
Yes, it still gets everyone else, but it's just this PL is such a good hero in this
game.
And those real AOL control for him.
No real good damage for these illusions either.
He's about to get toward that next item too.
He can eat the agonims, start to build to more aggression even.
Maybe even a defensive one too.
Yeah, probably, I mean imagine he goes, what, a pistol is the final item?
Take a pistol or a nullifier probably, or he just goes hard.
I don't know if he needs a nullifier in this game, because nobody has anything except for the Bane's goceptor.
Got the juice. Oh, he'll end up picking the late game BKB on.
Gets rid of the treads.
Does want to have something to be completely uninterrupted
when he's in a missed team fight.
Ego.
The grip off, no charge burst of light.
It's going to be safe for now.
The light's on.
Yeah, he was waiting for him on the way down.
They'll get it.
Raw down from PMI over one, snaking.
Now he'll find a second kill.
So now he's going to roll back in over the water
and set up the illusions of wits to clean up days.
Now be taking a two-for-one though here on the high ground defense again just hard for them to walk toward that high ground the turret of God the juice
It's too scary
Divide eating that full roar
Got the juice with the tail end of his matter they're looking to inch out a bit here, but not much else they can do
He's very good inside the base though right got the juice but outside pretty immobile if you can stand his garden attack
It's obviously fantastic, but
If they get the grips, it has to be the windblane conversion, then they've got the Marana, and
they've got the light strike away.
They've got things coming up there.
I'm going to talk this.
Play two lanes.
You can just keep farming.
I don't know how realistic high grounding is.
Yep.
I mean, it's what you're saying.
The high ground, step forward at this point, they have to leave, but it is hard.
So, because you can't go high ground now and you do sort of split up and keep farming, what?
Like when does that change again?
The next rush.
The next rush and then you find it, if you can find it, ever a pick off outside.
You can't just end up being that quick little double rack situation that gets cleaned up.
So, rush, they'll be able to get that one likely for free.
I mean, let's see if Navi does want to really push out there.
Meta is still on cooldown for a little bit.
Okay, LGD's looking for the fight.
That's a hex on Niku.
That could catch them off guard.
Yeah, that's sort of silently being picked up.
So now, they saw Niku noob, gets the Blik awesome,
immediately bliped out from Niku, very nice,
stuck in a way of rolling thunder.
See how on the side, he used the grip to lock down,
to fly, got the juices in him, off the base.
He's stuck down inside the base,
they try to bring in the back of those chains,
loads of coming in, got the juice,
getting survived, he can for now.
They'll turn and look over the walls,
they're blind, they're looking to bring down the tip
of the sword, got the juices so low, he's dead.
They'll kill him off outside of the base, LGD.
Get in the three of them.
And that might be exactly what's needed to do a heavy damage,
maybe even close the game up with a terribly dead without buyback.
I think that totally, I think they expected them to be going for the rush.
That smoke play, it catches him on the low ground rather than on the high ground.
And I think he ended up sundering.
I don't know if they got reflected.
I don't think he got one off or whatever it was on, indeed.
It did not get him back up to any HP at all, so they had to counter play.
And now that might just be triple set.
That was what they did.
Yeah, I think it got reflected.
I heard that HP did not go back up any portion of that fight.
That was the ideal. They catch him on low ground.
And just triple set is now going to be claimed there.
Slight little hiccups there from LDD, but overall the PL.
Yeah, and then the patient is turning off, finding that.
Perfect moment to hit Nami as hard as possible.
Take away the entire base as the mega creeps out now for LGD.
And Navi did a better job than I thought they would have known overall this game.
Just finding these extra grats, extra kills, keeping up the juice at this point,
but yeah, it's just too damn good of a PL game.
And just besides that too, snaking this early game, he really did just devastate them.
Niko completely playing on recovery the entire time.
Nice. Tried for the setup.
There's there the counter play.
Try to slide days back to safety. There's a sleep.
good voice line
all takes one hit on got the juice again
yeah and the damage is completely done
see it again he's on the low ground niku bray he gets the blink up a look at
got the juice he's
going toward a fight potentially but immediately you can see
where did the sundern up going I think it got reflected by divide
Yeah, I think.
Was it just brought by Samuels?
Maybe it was.
Samuels Lincoln.
Maybe it was.
Sorry.
But honestly, even if he gets one off there, probably not surviving, surrounded by LGD and
now a 30K league basically going to be coming up here with this Roshan going the way of
LGD as they should be on the verge of pushing this to a game three.
Just fired the top, got the juice, now put the BKB there, the roya, and the Sunder on to the fire, okay, well that's divided
So if they can get more for this they got the dust on a snaking. Here comes Sumail. No further catch, and now I'm deep with Sumail
Turn it up, they're ready to look to what's got the juice, he needs help, but they got anything about what the juice's out?
And isn't he gonna be kept alive, they got the grip on to Sumail, Sumail is going to die
Has got the juice, he'll pick up the double
Na'Vi says they can find more from the snake cannon. Everyone apart from Wits, now Wits isolates him.
Wits can do this alone in this teamfight. He's trying.
It's going to be a buyback coming in for Diogo, a buyback coming in for Snakey.
But the Hex is down on Wits. He's dead the once. They're taking the Aegis out of him.
They're back to the base. They're throwing him. They're doing heavy damage to the Ancient.
Na'Vi giving us a little bit of extra excitement here towards the end.
One by one sequence is coming from LGD. They actually just one by one die there before Wix is even near them.
I mean, now Wix doesn't have the Aegis, so the game will go on.
They don't have Glizal. They did have to use it to protect so LGD could just all in when they've got everybody back up here.
But still, Hemorrhaging kills like in a pretty weird way because they just go one by one.
And there's only really one hero that can cut a wall and hit the throne, right? The PL.
Nobody else is going to feel good kind of just trying to force an end of the game.
the game so mm-hmm but there are distractions right Timber is gonna go
and distract and distract PL's job is just to close the email
they have gold for rapiers is what I'm looking at he's close to an Inca if he
sells something he's got it he's going to have to sell something and how close
is the ad is he selling the blink yeah getting rid of the blink is he's gonna
have to rape you oh my if they can turn this with right here that would be
one of the bigger throws cuz lgd right at the way that they sequence that
One by one by one top that was kind of dangerous for them
So yeah, they're getting an extra life that they shouldn't have had rapier for Niku
Aghanim's blessing for got the juice
Can they turn this around
Still looking very very hard they still you know they took the ages out of him
But outside of that they haven't effectively killed wits at all this game. That was him 5v1 as well
That was with zero teammates around him and you still kind of almost killed in one target. So that's the way to do arrive
You're Navi. Yeah, and then kill the P out
To date the algae just don't split up. They just run as a five-man right now at this point
The vibe is showing himself in mid by himself for a second as we kept on the lips. We've seen if they do get these fumes
group setups from riddies. It's
Pretty devastating.
Goodbye.
LGD.
I mean it feels like both ways are ready.
One fight away from winning the game,
or one fight away from throwing the game completely.
Nice.
Spooky position.
Even though they do feel that they're that close to victory, LGD.
Gotta be careful.
Always possible with the right here.
Snake in Stonestop.
See how the right here is out.
Magnum is now for the timber.
See how hard they do commit for the stone.
It smells it.
Okay.
Look at the enemy on the move.
Got the juice.
Got the juice.
Needs to be bowed out.
This is how we get the BKV on.
Off the map.
Off the map.
Stonestop's turned.
Roll from B.
He found Wits.
He found Wits with the flash roll.
Doppel, but there's going to be a deadlock behind the core.
Another roll down.
One of which PLA continue into this, let the control with, but got the juices dead.
They've lost the territory.
And without that carry, no further way to hold.
GG's called, LGD doing it here, pushing it to a game three.
What a PL pick.
And what a good game plan there from Bounty Hunter overall.
Just shutting down Niku completely.
That fight, he actually gets the double roar on the PL,
and the pangal and the timber actually just rip everyone to shreds.
a bit too much for them to deal with at this deficit. A decent punch back but still they held on a very hard one to climb.
But DJLGD coming in with that switch up from which thrown in the PL something we just don't see a lot from him.
He plays it absolutely perfectly does not die a single time. We're going to game three.
And I couldn't be happier right. Two great teams duking it out leaving it all on the mat.
It's what you want to see for a place in the finals of P.Gelbalatia season 9.
Yeah, you never want it to just be some 2-0 stop.
Both of these teams are showing that they can adapt, that they're resilient.
Navi, they had the momentum going into this one, but you're playing against LGD.
We heard the comms from Snake King.
Both games.
That's my captain.
This guy is doing such a good job.
He's clearly making, every time you tune into the comms, it's in.
He's the guy that's making all of the calls, his team just has to listen, they're doing super good, they just got to press their buttons right, and in this game, the game plan was great, the button pressing was great, the draft was great, this Timbersaw man, he popped off.
Yeah, something we said they need to prioritize the Vice Hero early on and they use the perfect opportunity.
Navi bans out Doom, they ban out Ursa and then he has a pretty free entry to the game.
Also, this is something that they have done twice so far.
This Turblade plus support, Bane is a stronger support than what they had in that series two days ago or yesterday when they had the Winter Vibrant,
WS and Tibersock popped off completely and in this one, he also has pretty free entry to the game when it comes down to
Leaving the bounty hunter alone
We also talked about the switcheroo that they need to have that the only chord needs to play
Position four in the position five playing played that from the safe lane and that's exactly what they did
they needed this type of a little bit of a bait coming out and
I feel like the last big BL if we could see it coming
I also think that the Navi should potentially see this coming because this matchup throughout Dota history
It was always pretty bad one of the worst matchups for TV
You heard see why I mentioned it in the interview that perhaps Beastmaster could get the Aghanim Scepter, you know Lena does
Okay magical damage and they are we you know mostly she's about the Laguna Bay Laguna blade pure damage
You can maybe get like Neil near they had like options, you know, and I think that's probably why they left it
I don't think they forgot about the PL. I think they just thought
But we have options, but clearly it just wasn't enough.
PL is one of the stronger carries on the patch.
It just requires a good draft for him.
I think that's why we're not seeing it as much.
I was going to say, we haven't really seen it a lot considering that.
I would like to see its win rate.
I imagine it's pretty high.
And I thought we'd see it a lot more here.
But yeah, I agree.
I think maybe it's one of those heroes.
Like a lot of the heroes that have been very strong.
It just means one of the dude to sort of back it up, help it out.
Yeah, it needs a little bit of a specific setup, like something that XG was doing, that they were picking up a PL, relatively earlier in the draft, not saving it for the overall last pick, but stand out player for this one, it's naking.
He was not sleeping in this game.
No, definitely not.
The dude was in every single way.
People were sleeping on it.
Yeah.
really were that it was it looked like they weren't expecting a bounty hunter to be in every lane.
Snake King has always been the type of player. This is why he's good at Crystal Maiden,
where his positioning on the map is perfect. He knows how to be in the lane that is pushed up
in a timing where heroes like kind of low HP, you know, you know, your pubs and you go to a
lane, you try to gank, then you realize the creeps are in the tower or the guy just has too
too many resources, too many levels, you can't kill them.
Snaking is always there when those kills are able to happen,
and I feel like BH is a perfect hero for him because of this.
Yeah, well, I'll stay with you, Andrew.
Let's talk about Lina.
I think we brought it up in the draft, you know,
like we like Niku as a player.
How do you feel about his Lina in relation to this
and how the lane went?
It's still good.
I do question Lina's not going for a point and stun.
Still, I know Cinderan has mentioned this quite a few times as he's casting the Lena that with a hero like BH
Who's always gonna be ganking mid it would be kind of nice
There's a few times where I do think Niko was kind of over playing running down the river
Not giving enough respect to oh captain my captain snaking even running behind the tower in these scenarios where he
Understands that okay now we're at the point where we can just dive Niko
We don't even need him to walk into the river. We can just continue the pressure and this is the difference between
between the good BH players and the bad BH players.
And there's a huge polarizing difference
between them right now.
As we've seen.
Yeah, this hero needs a very specific understanding
of the map.
Like you've seen it multiple times,
especially at the early game where snaking,
he runs in, there's a sentry ward down.
They create like an opportunity
to maybe get a kill on him.
And then he runs away.
This is a very tanky hero.
Like level two, he's sitting at nine armor.
You're playing against DB.
Bane, he throws a blood grenade, he runs away,
quite a lot of resources used to potentially get a kill
on Bounty Hunter.
These things matter through Twin Gates, it makes a rotation.
It's a lot of these things that definitely do add up.
Yeah, and we can talk a little bit just about how,
you know, other bounty hunters that we've seen
have been pretty wack, like these haven't been good,
you know, like there's been one or two people
that have picked a bounty hunter,
and made it look like the terror we saw at TI.
Here are a lot of people sort of,
they were reflexively picking it and then dying 16 times.
Yeah, because it does go back to the things
that Lacoste is mentioning.
You run into the lane,
and you take like 90% of your HP and damage,
and if you're a bad player and you look at that,
you just go, oh, look at him right again, he's done.
It's intentional.
He knows he has nine armor.
these good BH players, they understand the resources they have.
They know these fundamental mechanics in Dota
where they get advantages in places where other heroes cannot.
For example, a lot of really good Bounty Hunter players
like Soxa will hit, they will use the Twin Gates,
they'll also be de-warning the Twin Gates all the time.
They will hit the mid laner
as he's trying to block the wave mid.
You're not getting a kill, there's nothing flashy,
there's nothing that you'll see some tusk
or one of these other four positions do,
but this is something only Bounty Hunter can do.
You need to erke out these little advantages in the places that you can to make the hero
work and if you do it's so disruptive.
Anything to add to that before break?
Make it a good point.
I'm going to say that snaking looked much more comfortable on Bounty Hunter coming there
to Teolikor and if they're going to be picking it again it's probably going to be snaking
playing it.
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Welcome back. It's been a great series. Niku, usually all smiles, lots to think about here.
knows the stakes are high because if they win this game now we're in the grand
final yes they'll have to play Yandex yes it'll be a best of five can't think
about that now they're gonna be LGD yeah and it's not gonna be easy I think in
this one they had quite a lot of issues starting from the draft the problem
with this PL pick 24 is you can't even itemize yeah we're gonna go back to
of what CY said about the Hagonum Scepter on Beastmaster, but it is a ticking bomb.
Like, eventually it's going to come down to that where PL, if other four heroes are
playing together, he's not contested.
Like, he had a perfect game, and he was sitting at zero deaths at the end of the game as
well, which is pretty crazy to think about, showing how good of a PL pick on 24 this
was.
And PL right now, he's sitting at 33% win rate over six games, and I feel like
this hero needs a specific setup to be picked, and you also need to have some kind of counters.
You need to potentially prepare the counters because they banned out Clanks in the last
phase.
I think they would have the answers for Clanks, but maybe they did not.
Yeah, and the Timber as well, it was such a good game for him.
He felt kind of free.
He got his heart.
He bodied in every fight and tanked all the spells, and a lot of the time he still
He's snaking as he looks like he has a migraine because he's the only one talking during these games. This this guy's out here
captaining
Captaining like there's no tomorrow. No, but this is why I
My guy dude. I I love him so much and I I totally get it. It is tough. You've got
divide
Who is insane?
Exuberant and you've got a young and upcoming, you know carry
Who also by the way wits was great in the interviews. He said like who are you excited to be playing with he's like
Snaking I can't wait. So they've got that going on the great dynamic that the guy that he's idolizing is the guy calling the shots
Yeah, is that he's going to listen. Yeah, didn't say some a everybody will be jacked at the prospect to play in some male
And that's the guy who's planning with as well
Which then like easily transition any kind of theirs any kind of mistakes into their advantage in the laning stage
he can be the one setting him up for the success, drafting with Bulba as well.
And in this one, he definitely set him up for success, made him feel comfortable in the game.
And I think coming into this game again, I want to see if LGD does the same thing.
Picking up the Vice Hero relatively early in the draft, because I think this was the key to LGD's victory as well.
You know what I'm going to say though, I mean, look, we've loved LGD's drafting.
And for all the criticism Bulbas took down the years, I think he's had some masterful twists and turns in in the drafts for LGD
But now you've got their own thing going on. They will draft crazy. They will they will pick
things and as I said shit I want to they will pick things that you're not expecting and
LGD for all the homework in the world. I don't think now every routine you can really prep for
But they are on the precipice. Yes
They have a single game. They have a single draft to do this. So the question is, if they want to do something that LGD could not have prepared for,
Also, how could they have prepared for? How confident are they in their preparation or their insane hero pick?
I totally agree with this band. This was just not okay.
I'm gonna throw it out there doom is still in the pool if they leave it
I think the first pick like Navi will probably try to take it
I think they need to swap things around because this hero just gives you way too many counters against certain heroes in the meta
It shuts down what the vibe wants to do it gives your carry better carry to carry matchup
go ahead and pick that Timbersaw now so now they don't have to worry too much about it.
Old do me try hard.
Honestly I've loved the, maybe I won't say I've loved because some games it hasn't worked
out in the end but the undying has looked really good against it.
Putting somebody in a tombstone when they're doomed feels really great and it's a hero
that lanes super well against it but they go with an offline counter instead you can
press R and run away from Doom. It's an ultimate disengage.
Yeah, it's a it's a fine hero and they're still prioritizing
the vice pick for that early game.
Yeah, now you also have to worry about and life stealer pick
coming out from GTJ. He has played it six times and has
66% win rate on the hero later. That's going to come out. And
I could also see maybe if life stealer gets contested, maybe
if it gets taken out by LGD, that he got slightly inspired by what happened in the previous game,
picking up PL, he did play Terrorblade, I could also maybe see later down the line, Naga Siren
potentially come out, I would like to see some kind of control against this Centaur as well,
Stampede being very very annoying, so I think they're gonna recognize that and pick the heroes
that have good amount of control, Dark Willow being I would say one of the better ones
against the center in general has insane amount of control.
They do have the pick out of the phase,
so I would assume that they will potentially
try to take this one,
but there are still very good options coming up from five.
Like even a clockwork could be good.
Winter Vibrant, these type of heroes
that just like close out,
like they go in and once they're in,
you know that you can throw in the spells easily.
Okay.
Hoodwink has kind of fallen off a cliff in this tournament.
I think people want something more stable
because obviously in the heat of the moment
it's the skill shot hero
you know you miss
you miss the skill shot
an entire team fight. It can be pretty devastating
and it feels like it's snowballs as well
you miss one, you kind of miss the next
eight. Yes
yeah exactly it's on your mind
you know reddit gonna be posting your whiffs
yeah that's the worst one dude if reddit makes a compilation out of your fails
I'll throw this in while we're doing the draft, but people didn't notice.
Vlad Esbaz, it's his birthday.
Happy birthday to Vlad Esbaz.
Vlad Esbaz, what a great, fantastic guy he is.
Yeah, and well, not that great.
He is an Arsenal fan.
Well, other than that, yeah, we love him.
And speaking of the bands, they did remove that life stealer
that we mentioned, picked Dark Willow out of the phase.
So this is a super strong offline duo,
quite a lot of kill threat with these two
ideally you would want to have uh...
some kind of a
built-in bkb
type of a hero
against these two
yeah wouldn't that be nice
now
real question here for now v is do they think they can get it for eighteen
thick
because
don't know it's right it's bad it's best
were you suggesting juggernaut is that
Maybe, maybe they're on. No, no, no, no, I think they're going to go with something different, but
the way that we are reading this draft. Let's go natural, like a natural BKB boulder instead.
Yeah, we could do that. Maybe if the game opens up for them, but
Hoodwink, Wyvern, we did talk about Wyvern being the good one too.
You said it was dead and it wasn't, yeah. Potentially, there's just not, there's a lot
of good supports in the pool, so that's why Hoodwink is falling off, but when you
When you end up in these scenarios where so many of them are getting banned or picked,
then you can go back to it.
A lot of good heroes from the mid lane left in the pool, all of these spirit heroes, the
problem is they have 18 picks, so if you go for, I think they'll be okay with just
picking up the earth spirit here, the chase potential is there, spirit vessel buyer,
like extra bit of a-
Good against Wyvern, backline jumper.
Flavor backline jumper pretty much relatively good against the oh as well. They're gonna dazzle nature's
I mean
Against doom and Lane it would do very very well
Grave is double edge against doing because you can
Okay, that's a that's a better option. I do prefer this it gives them very strong
Laning it gives them a bit of a teamfight later on save against the doom tombstone very very effective
Yeah, I like this the moment that I see doom this is the first thing that comes to mind it's just for
natures in this current meta feels like it's only picked with dazzle
But it honestly just farms like crazy
It looks like a really good carry regardless of the dazzle still remains one of the fastest farming here
And if you want to talk about if you want to talk about guaranteed lane win
There's probably no better hero than on dying especially on dying against doom. That is a really rough rough matchup for doom
He basically just has to like
Farm jungle play I am also kill I haven't brought this up when we've been doing the draft
I am sick of Rocham prioritizing to
They just happened with the change to yeah
They gotta get rid of that change the Shatter shaman the way he was doing Rocham at the time
It needed to be changed because you could just solo kill it and they do believe in TB one more time
They really do.
They really love this hero.
My goodness.
Well, they have a very good late game if they can go there between Doom TB.
It's really hard to come up with like a tricor combo that beats this.
However, I know a lot of people really like playing natures into TB because
number one, you're a hero that's doing primarily magical damage,
and then you also up the tempo versus them.
Yes.
One of the issues that Navi does have right now
is that Sumail plays natures profit from the mid lane,
and they have the overall last pick.
Last pick so they can still put this nation's profit mid pick a different carry and that's what they're banning out the PL as well
I could also see them if wits is willing to play it
I think picking up hero like naga siren could work out for them just to be able to reset the fight
Unless but I would maybe prioritize mid lane a little bit more just to have
have that extra bit of a control, the backline jump, they will see the full draft, and then
they will decide that all of the Spirit heroes are still left in the pool, Void Spirit, the
highest win rate for Sumail, also Earth Spirit as well, just to have that control and try
to push the tempo.
Let's say like Niku goes for a hypothetical puck last pick.
We're going to see the Void Spirit.
There are some options for LGD to punish here, and Navi has to consider that when
they're picking their 23rd pick.
So come on then, Nostra Domus, how do you see the rest of the draft going well?
Well, I think if they ban one of the spirits, the other one is still going to fulfill the job,
so they will ban probably something else, because it does make more sense.
They got to ban Ember, right?
Yeah, that's what usually, unless they want to be picking up Dragonite from the mid lane,
which I also think that could be a good option.
Ember spirit pretty high win rate like he pops off on most of the spirits
Didn't play too many spirits this lucky king yesterday into the ember spirit was yeah
I think this this last hero for Navi needs to be something that is not greedy at all
But you have doom you have terrible aid they can be a little bit slow
Yeah, this this I feel like they probably had the 50 50 and it was either ember or DK
But now LGD puts them in a position where DK has a lot more counters than the Ember.
At least right now it kind of feels that way.
Or maybe just LGD has an idea for how they can counter it.
And whereas with the Ember spirit they're like, okay, we can counter this too,
but we don't want Niko to play because he's so good at it.
I would much rather play against Niko on a DK than Niko on an Ember.
It could also be like generic pango pick that could come out to just to have like another hero that can for who?
for Navi that gives them a little bit of a teamfight.
There's a lot of good heroes still left in the pool,
and they have a good 45 seconds to think about it.
They're lacking a little bit on the teamfighting.
They go for Caudle.
Okay, so wow, this is a very pub draft.
But Caudle running around to the side lanes right now looks pretty effective.
Once Centaur is 6, less so because you can run away from his Solarbind with the Centaur ulti,
But, Caudal has like the earliest level 6 slash sideline ganking timing and all of Dota, period.
The only other hero that maybe is just as fast as like Primo Beast, playing it like the Topson style.
Okay, well this makes the last pick a little weird for LGD.
Spirits are all very good against Caudal because you can jump them.
Honestly, the best one is Storm Spirit.
It's Storm Spirit.
Yes.
It's the best jumper just finding him.
It's Bulbacan, dude.
It's Bulbacan, we said.
before the storm this is it it was like 20 seconds before he picks it no way it
would be it would be just too perfect I mean they could pick a different carry
because they have nature's profit in the mid lane he does more than fine and he
can match the rotations from that's true if they want to be running it that way
where when coddle makes the first move you can mimic that move have rat of
nature ready at the time because coddle needs level six to make the move
with his urn with his spirit vessel.
Close enough.
Yeah, I'm not really surprised considering that what he was able to achieve with his Void
Spirit you can also dodge the blast with easy like the simulate.
They have no real counter to this Void Spirit other than Doom in this game and there is
going to be Centaur, there is going to be Tombstone, there's going to be Terrorized
so he has even after he gets doomed.
I feel like the chase potential for Navi really isn't there, because Keeper of the Life he wants to keep the distance.
But I'm just gonna say it, I think Navi, if they go out here, they go out with the style.
Their ideas have been working out for most of the game so far that we've seen them at Valakia.
In the end, Game 3, the elimination game, they pick up Keeper of the Life.
That's just the nice way of saying you don't like that draft.
Yeah, I do believe LGD Gaming that they have overall a better draft.
They go out here, they went out with their own ideas, which were terrible, according to
Dummy Jurjard.
I like their draft.
I do.
If they go late game, there's not much that can deal with the TB.
It's kind of like the PL in the last game where they're going to, LGD will run into
damage issues.
It will just be nature's profit that's dealing up the damage.
You know what though?
I think a lot of pressure on Taze.
I think Taze, you know, we talked about the hoodwink and how it's a feast off
If I'm an hero, Daze has been so consistent in the wins.
He's out here playing with Undying Mid
and having to make all the moves, and he still does it.
I think Daze is fine with pressure.
Yeah, Daze is playing Code Wing, Daze nuts.
They have to hit.
He needs to be able to get those lucky bounces in the lane.
He needs to hit the Bushwax as well,
because this is a bit of a hit or miss hero.
It certainly is.
Yeah, I agree.
There's a lot of potential here, though, for LGD to snowball.
Nature's Profit Carry is crazy for just completely
running over the map and Sumail mid, we have seen what he can do with his Void Spirit.
Like no one is matching him in this tournament, at least on this hero.
It just looks like he's on another level.
Like somehow his Void Spirit has a different level, plus 20% damage on all the spells.
Alright, it's a direct throw to our commentators.
I haven't done this to, I think, Owen and Janice, the entire tournament.
So I'll ask Fogg, because Owen never likes to do it.
Tell me what you think about the draft and who's going to win.
What do you reckon, Pogs?
LGD, if they get tempo going, if they slow down the game too much, I actually like Navi's
quite a lot if they can get the scaling, so yeah, quick summary, I guess.
Yeah.
I could break it down more, but yeah.
Yeah, it's going to be really fun to see.
It's cool that obviously after the kind of rough game one, LGD, they stick to some
of the ideas, right?
They bring back the nature's profit for Wits, and they say we're going to give
it another shot, because we know Wits can be amazing on this hero, and maybe
it's just sort of like start the day's thing and strike.
We're waking up a slow start. I think so. I expect we're gonna see much more from where it's on his nature's profiting game
Free here as opposed to what we saw in game one because again
He's got great heroes right that are gonna be setting up plays for him
Especially with this final pick some out on the void spirit
Kind of single-handedly bringing this hero back to the front of potential mid lane picks when it comes to the spirits
He's been crushing games here at Valakia with this voice and I like it quite a lot when you look at Navi's draft
What's the catch?
They've got a bushwhack
It's extremely limited until later when they start getting the creeps
It's pretty much ultimates to catch him
So the other thing I like a lot more about the voidspear compared to the storm
I know the panel was talking about that is you have cheap ways to stop illuminate
You can just throw an aether remnant out when you see him channeling inside the laning phase and just disrupt some of that damage
Perhaps get some extra denies
So that's what I'm looking at and then the other thing when you're playing Griscottle
It's warding his camps or at least attempting to get to that area since he loves to just play to stack
get the benefit from that so eyes on Theo where he's gonna go probably a
century get placed early but you can see Riddies Riddies knows he's doing this so
immediately there's already a wyvern hitting the willow there's even a
coddle coming over to blast the push and wait they don't want him to block
Niku's games because Niku he's the tempo setter when you look at Navi's draft
it's very greedy almost across the board with limited disables but this
coddle has been one of the best tempo setters in the pubs I haven't seen
it in terms of pro games.
over the stands on the Colt picks this tournament. Has he even been played as a mid? Might be able to
bring them up. So yeah we have had the 12 picks and we haven't quite got the the roles that's been
played in but. Have me and you, I don't think me and you have done a mid-cattle. We saw a couple
supports but I can't even believe we did 12-cattles. I don't think we've seen. We casted one I think.
We got like none of them so. But this is something that Nick has always liked right.
He has always been a mid-player that as we've seen throughout the tournament likes to
to bring in and kind of these heroes to the mid. The other mid players aren't doing whether
it be the undying or the Colt in this day and age. So it's going to be fun to see what
he can do.
Yep. Going for that last pick. I mean, what do you think there was about this game that
does look good for the Colt and the picks? It was their last pick.
I think he just really did want to have something that can set Temple in top of that early
game for his team. And he has good chakra targets. TB, one of the, it doesn't sound
like one of the better ones. Being able to refresh meta though in mid game team
fights is good and just getting heal sustained. I think heals are pretty broken right now in the meta
so the fact that you can have this caudal perhaps get these blasts can be huge but yeah I'm just
not sure if this hero is that strong right now in the mid lane because I do I'm seeing Sumail do
what I was kind of expecting is every time a illuminates coming out you throw the remnant
out you're able to trade very effectively with them. It does certainly feel like a lane that
Sumail's going to have no struggle dominating. Yeah and they already blocked the camp right
so any dodges this spell too so it's like multiple different factors that this hero has and
And yeah, Theo, even though he got harassed a little bit at the start of going in, he did block the hard camp.
So that'll be very annoying for Niku, which is this hero does not like to play slow down at all.
This hero likes to be the highest level in the game with the most gold and just kind of running the show at that early vessel timing with the solar vine.
So playing the hero from behind, not sure how you do that.
And overall, like we said, for Navi's draft, right, there's a lot of greed.
So if he's not having a good time on the Coddle, then it's like, oh man, the support's got to do so much to make moves around the map for the space.
And do you like the Navi? They got the juice on the Terrapade again. This time around, obviously no PL, so no kind of direct carry to carry matchup that makes the Terrapade suffer.
Or kind of have to, not really much of an option to carry against when it gets to those later stages.
I guess because obviously last game, despite that, he still played individually pretty darn good on it.
So I can imagine why you're seeing his team,
hey, let's try and set it up a bit better for the tariff late,
but let's run it back again.
Yeah, like last game, I would say all three cores were,
I mean, two of the cores are fantastic first in the pango,
goes a bit of the both ways.
This one, I would say it looks amazing, right?
It does look good versus at least two of the cores,
very strong in the game.
So if he gets set up to success,
if he gets to these later stages,
absolutely, that's what I was saying.
Like if it gets late game,
I can see got the juices going absolutely crazy.
For sure, because it's just all the nature
of the mid and the off-lane, right?
to some male voids for the device.
And so these both operate and kind of like that.
The jump in, the burst, spells on cooldown,
that's the damage done.
If that's not killed with the Terra Blade,
then it's all gonna be on the right clicks
of the carry on the nature's profit.
And down the lines, you're gonna have that range of answers
from the metas up and the illusions around.
It's harder than nature's profit to deal with.
So absolutely, if this game goes late
and got the juices ever to have anywhere close to us,
good farm as he did last game,
Terra Blade is gonna be a massive problem.
Yeah, I do wanna see this, oh wow, snaking,
That was like a solo kill, triads, plus zombies, well plants and zombies, I kind of forgot about this, that was a good game back in the day.
They're not plants, now they're working together, you know, joining forces there for LGD.
Against the squirrel too, poor little squirrel just gets destroyed by all these summons.
It's an incredibly strong lane and I want to see them play pretty fast on the side of LGD this game, right?
Playing with the nature's prophet again, I'm going to say it a million times, I just want to see Wits play active when he's playing this hero.
Especially when he gets really quick timings right, because last time in game one,
The order be kept it was up there with one of the fastest times you can get on a nature profit
So I'm an absolute I'm sure we're gonna see what's get a lot more done this time
And so far Niko he's trying to like wave drag versus to mail so they can get these blasts up
But to now still getting the eighth of rents up to him anyway in the river the lane has moved over here
So well truly owning
Top net worth getting those extra denies. I mean Niko's at least not falling too far behind the CS of course
He's up there level with the last hits of Sumail.
I keep looking at, does Wichef TP available?
He could look to cut Niku off here.
Okay, not going to be the case.
Niku has Jukin.
Sumail.
Dodge is the blood grenade.
Baze is here looking for him.
Alongside Riddies and Niku.
He's got another A-Charges.
A PMA here.
He should be going down.
So, took the four of them turning up.
But they are able to kill Sumail off.
to kill Sumail off. It's weird how that ends up being like pretty worth it, right. Sure you're chasing
for so long your lanes are evacuated but it ends up being pretty good that they do get that kill and
Niko he does not want to die right. He wants to be able to get off to some momentum here. Understandable
do you think Wywitz didn't want to TP there? Could you have seen that working out if you did
want to kind of jump and jump out to kill the Colt or a little too risky for the carry to make
that move? I missed in the initial chase when Sumail was going when he caught him with the
if you have TP off, I think he did though.
So, I just want to see him get more of all,
because the first game he could have been TPing around a lot more, so.
Summel will drop, Niku does have the urn now picked up,
he has his camps open, Daze is going to back up
and start stacking them to try to enable the timing of the Coddle.
And the green right now looking pretty good. 35-14 on the TB, Doom is getting away with
some farm bottom too even though they did get the one kill on the hoodwink.
They knocked Navi pretty happy with this early game already, at least the first six minutes.
He's going to be dead here.
What can I got the juice but he's playing very safe so I'll help him to really get the setup onto him.
Dubai wants to get his 6 pretty early this game as you said. Limited Disabled, Centaur vs Doom, one of the best matchups because you can always reset away.
There's going to be a lot of ways that the Stampede is going to be problematic for Na'Vi.
They can get kind of the timing on the stampede, bring some LWs up to the top lane, they could
try and just dive in and kill off this terror blade.
And I do want to see them do that with Wits as well, TPA with the Wrath of Nature and get
the towers.
They could definitely get very early tower if they want to make that play.
Right now it's fine, going for a wisdom contest, but very soon I do want to see them
look to pressure the top quite early.
These tranks, very strong with and in dying too.
He's shaking.
PMA does want to try and contest this, but under the tombstone not going to
option so LGD will get both for the Shrine of Wisdoms. That's a nice move.
He'll even take away the creep too, Snake will walk up, be able to steal away that troll.
Yeah there's no way to contest versus those treants and zombies but honestly PMA's still
getting an insane amount this game. Of course it's the kill that he got on Sumail that's
enabling him that much more but look at his net worth. He's top on the team as an offlane
Doom versus an MP and an Undyne.
I would not have expected that.
Top lane DR, Dremel.
He's going to try for the TP out.
He'll make it.
Heads up.
Limited disables, as we were saying.
I'm going to take some hits now.
It's the tier one top.
Now I'll be getting some pressure on.
I'd say honestly, the fact that PMA is this big is a problem.
Do you feel like other dooms in the same scenario
are then not getting this against an Undyne
plus carry lane?
No, Undyne.
Usually ends up being one of those quick did most devastating heroes to play against when you're playing pretty much any of these strengths and nature's profit similar
So PMA already having doom available to able to rotate in as we said, it was a lot because of the kill to he got on Sumail
But it's 8 minutes in that they very got a gold lead
with the doom and a TB draft so
Looking pretty good at least in this early start Sumail
Hold on guys
and okay so Niku looking to maybe switch and pivot with this build he's like
alright vessel maybe not the best because we don't have to catch sure
damage is good versus some of these heroes and it's the ideal for most
caudals but I can see why he's wants to work at this game just because the
limited catch versus the Void Spirit
what's looking to accelerate they want the mid tower how much to know if
want to put in to try to hold this.
Now, he's going to dive in pretty deep, get the chance to kill off Reddy's, PMA will turn
up towards the mid lane.
They've got Spirit form for the Coddle.
He's going to chase down Saking.
Look at the tombstone out Saking, but he will die.
Fortification there to hold the defense against the Trients.
Seasill Sturge, he'll respawn, but Theo now also found.
He dropped down a Dune, get an easy chance to pick up another, Nabi.
Couldn't fully finish off that tower there, diving forward for the Wyvern trying
to get this extra play here. Navi responds accordingly again. All in the meanwhile, got
the juice. He's the one to go top. He's the one who takes the tower already here at this
point too. And if he was able to get this, oh, see around the mid against him, he burst
some days. Not quite able to get the connection there with the Simulate. The heals. Power
of the Coddle in this early game, BuchaTravel now finished up for Nigu, so he can match
the movements. The fact that they're even, like the fact that it's doing the
PBR same net worth as an MP is huge for them. Now they might find PMA.
He is very fast.
He's got backup coming, then I'll get him.
He is way too fast.
Even with the Stampede Jews.
Can I get days instead?
No.
He's fine, so not able to get either of those with that aggressive attempt of the Stampede.
PMA is just as fast. He's got the Speedy Creep, Speed Aura plus the Phase Drum Wind Lace.
Even without a neutral item, he was at 500-something movement speed, zooming away from them.
And it got the juice was able to find the farmer space to get in the last game where everything was falling apart around him for the most part
Imagine what he's gonna be able to do when he's ever to cause a having a good game
LGD got to continue to play fast up look to set up for these towers early on open up the map to invade versus the TV
So the undying the willow they are smoked looking for mid
They've got a catapult wave so they may just die very hard here radius and they will the connections though
It's not there clearly
Big bounce though from the Wrath.
With that, this should have a good shot maybe taking the 2-1 tower.
Let's see if they can get any chance to go for Niku.
Another blast.
That's too much.
Not to get a kill on the way out there Niku.
Bring snaking down.
Should get the tower here though.
They've got the catapulting but at the same time got the juices matching their movements elsewhere
to go for their own tower pressure so they're going to get a trade again here.
Only losing the Wyvern for it.
Novi will be pretty happy about that again.
If Niku's the one that dies when they're going through that tower push there, it would feel way better for LGD, but in fact it's just a 5 position who's level 4.
Novi's pretty okay with all that.
Giving up the double wisdom runes, the supports are going to be very low level on the side of Novi for now.
I guess there's another thing as well that Novi do have against battles such as the Stanford.
The stampede they've got what three very speedy heroes as you read the fast
You consume and then obviously caught with the bots and then the hook link running in out the trees scarring about
So you're not always going to be able to chase them down with aggressive stampede
Yeah, Wyvern is right Wyvern is like a hundred movement speed slower than the rest of his heroes on his team
Kato super fast at the innate plus the bots and TV naturally super fast. They are very fast
So perhaps came tried to keep up with that stampede at times the bike set up around top
See, he wants to try to pressure jump the juice here a little, but doesn't have any backup at all, that's...
Spiked time from both sides. Navi ready to use the doom. LGD, of course, wanting to constantly look for action around Samel's void spirit.
it. So he's going to start first. Yeah, Navi's reading this play. Look at Niku. They're
going to get the jump from Riddies, but he's still getting the red nothing connected. They
get the jump done. Now the turnarounds coming in. They're trying to get Samel out of here
because he's been doomed. They're so fast though. They're chasing him down and indeed
able to stay on top of him. Samel will go down. Uh-oh. Oh, and they're getting
it. They're not able to outpace the way that Navi's matching them right now. Navi's
He's reading the plays perfectly Niku instantly tipis before the move even connects there from LGD
The greedier draft at the moment is having a way to match versus the speed that LGD wants to play with
If they can take this stack as well to that would be devastating
And this is I said these these cold mid players when they're doing stuff like this and this damage is coming out this early
It feels horrible to play against us just having this slow from a mile off hit you this incredible damage burst
And usually it's with the Vassal.
It's disgusting.
That's the thing, it's usually with the Vassal too that you're just like, oh my god, he's
got such a Vassal, I'm just dead.
It's just an urn.
He's going to have this Orchid picked up pretty soon too as well, which is amazing.
That's super fast.
I mean we're already so obviously one of the fastest spots timing again, because I
think we're comparing it to not many other, if any other mid-cottles this tournament.
Yeah.
But yeah, it was the Orchid timing.
It's definitely going to be the fastest one you've seen.
Sorry production, if you guys could actually, when you get a chance just if you do
have the staff of how many of the coddles whenever but not too important. Divide, and yeah we'll clear up the stacks, we're going to get the Lotus online as soon as you can. Of course that, one of the first times they can at least stop somebody just kind of insta-dying to the set up and burst of Niku with that chance to remove the, obviously protect them all from this all kid that's going to be coming out.
Yeah, he'll have a pretty good timing because he gets to finish off that stack all important that he does get that one
Gets them to at least a net worth lead now too with these moves. I mean with stand-ups on
Yeah, they're in body counters nature's profit in terms of just getting an insane amount of farm and so far the involvement's been good
He's got at least one of the kills with the nature's wrath as well from a distance
But he's gearing up and absolutely should be ready to turn up the fights getting the dragon lance
first after the Mione. And the matchup versus the TB it can go both ways right in the early game
right the nature's profit is going to have just a bit more to build a play versus him but as it gets
later you got the juicer's going to have all those advantages. Yeah early to mid game that's where
especially when you get this advantage on farm you turn up with the Mione Dragon Lance BKB you
feel great in Katera Blade but that's only going to last for so long. Indeed. Niku Orchid
is done so they can start to make more plays with this as well on Navi's if they want
They also did get their wisdoms so they have the levels on the supports
See what the timing is the LGD wants to go in next what do you matter they are waiting for
Maybe this is the Lotus like you're mentioning. Yeah, he's got a finish
So I think they actually can't just look for the place. They've got Lotus
They've got vessel on Sumail just need to find the angles. It's just been a bit hard
I think Navi's just done a good job of reading the movement. So
If they are gonna make a move just make sure that they do it together
together. Because Navi, they've been very ready as a team versus some of the more like
one by one moves of LGD that have been coming in. Speaking of team, Navi fully grouped, they've
got PMA with a blink so he can go for whatever target he wants with the Doom. Snake Oak.
Sam and the Revesque balance off the mark. The sign is immediately removed by the
Lotus. Awkward there from Navi to find the first connection. But the building
Jus will just be able to seep that one.
Not to let that gut.
Five men of Navi is quite scary, especially now that they've gotten this early Blakedagger for PMA.
Even though they have the doom, or they have the Centaur to reset as we saw there, they're very fast to keep up with it.
And if he does see the Centaur, he could just throw the doom onto him.
He's playing versus two different heroes or three in fact they can get on right on top of them. He's just gonna go BKB
Fair enough. Yeah. Yeah, we've seen some of the coddles go greedy when they play. They'll try and get away with maybe just the yule's right
Exactly. I like this a lot more. Just needs the protection because he just gets all then he just dies and he is very important.
So Mikado, 0-2 at this tournament so far. Thank you production.
That was if Niku can put a change to that stat.
Can get so far from it.
3-0-4, still overall Navi.
Slightly behind due to the fact that Witt's is that farmed on the Nature's Prophet.
But it's only that slight.
So I think they're pretty comfortable. She said they're a bit more of a greedy draft, so...
Yeah, the lead is all on Witt's.
Literally, similar to the first game.
If someone comes out, they're gonna find some help with the dermis.
Good fair, we'll stop an immediate follow-up chase.
So you'll be fine on the voids.
We're able to escape this time thanks to the Stampede.
Can Theo get himself out?
He's looking pretty dead.
While protecting Mildo, can they turn for more on the side of LTA?
They want to try to get caught by the sides into the curse
It's not enough damage to threaten him. Last brings it very close
Some now will be out of back away nature track comes through first in a few days and ready's pretty low. Oh
It doesn't get a second product almost gets Nico
Bridges is gonna get left behind caught by the remnants. So don't get a support trade here LGD able to strike back
Power stamp here always versus doom able to get the reset not the best catch as we said for Nami
They can reset that last blast almost killed two male and subsurviving though and wits if he gets one more maelstrom
Proc he actually would have had Nico as well too. So did try to TP and get involved
He's gonna get a BKB next time for a moment there
He was curing up the risk ability was curing up butterfly pre BKB
He's gonna get it even earlier, but no he's going for the BKB first. Please. No, I'm getting he
He thought about it, he thought about it for a moment.
I'm getting PTSD from some of these NPCs just going for these more risky builds rather than just playing it safe.
Because the Miode PKB timing, it's gonna be great and that's gonna be the point where he's turning up to these fights
only really the threats of the Doom itself and the Terrorblade, everything else, he's gonna feel super strong against.
And they've got the Link now too for the Centaur, Snaking also should survive with the TP out, he's just fine.
getting more and more waste on LGD to make natural aggressive moves that have to center with the blank so
what's the map?
what's the map?
he knows there's not really a whole lot that's going to lock him down outside of the ults
so he can just sort of run about as he wishes
pushing the linux
big burst and onto got the juice
doesn't want to push too far when the haste is starting to run a bit low there
how's the itemization looking for the support today's
Looks like it's just gonna be a four staff so looking to get the TB and positioning
Riddies always the blink I feel is the best for the Wyvern
So perhaps a bit of a slowdown here for both sides since they are hitting some of these timings LGD I
Think they can still make these aggressors though. I don't think they need to slow down really at all with these timings
He can be done. They might keep going. Yeah, you want to get what's involved right now make the moves keep playing around
Sumail Sumail is falling behind in terms of network though
There we go. Give Sumail the kills for these though. He does need to get them since he's
spending a lot of time moving around. How fast do they want to push for a rush is the
question too. Obviously not just yet for LGD, but soon. I mean, Snake is even pinging
it already. I mean, we see that as well, you know, just to highlight how fast Wits
is getting these irons that PKB coming out one minute faster than we've had on record so far here of the lack here and
With a very standard build up right a lot of the profit the nature problems going for the me on its PKB
And but even in this case with the dragon rights before the PKB so which absolutely smashing these item timings
330 CS yeah, this time he's playing it very nice turning up to some of the fights to show you didn't finish off
Niko, but he did turn up earlier. They're just too many to rush
Yeah, and they can easily get away with this without having any chance of getting over here
So the pressure can continue to come out from LGD, keeping true to the timings necessary.
And this one was a quick one, right?
It was literally 20-minute mark hits, the Roche was shifting toward there
and Snakey was already preparing with the team to go for it.
It's advantage.
Yeah, take note of what it says.
So every sort of sign showing that LGD, they are going to be looking
to really step up the pressure, get the nature's profit involved.
They still have a tier one to take too, bottom.
It's actually astonished that that's still alive.
PMA, we did mention a good of a game.
I guess he did that while he was lying, yeah.
Probably one of the next targets if they do want to go for it here,
but Navi, I do think that they will look for the fights themselves.
They won't just let them go for those trades,
especially when PMA has BKB,
they're going to look to fight back versus all the moves of LGD too.
Then he doesn't have to worry about just getting changed on that in particular.
It's close on the numbers,
be very careful not to make these mistakes because that's what this greed is going to
just start to take advantage of things because it is a lot on wits yes he has the farm but
it's pretty much all of the farm you know centaur, device, male, the void spirit
they're not finding kills they'll continue to fall behind
they need action here lgd they want it they're looking for it the really nice thing though
is that at least they have like centaur because usually when you're playing this like four
protect one it becomes like uh-oh he's just gonna get doomed in every fight right
they at least do have that centart always bail them out of every situation and
perhaps reset things so very important thing to point out
now if you're doing a good job avoiding these sort of plays that yeah
they'll just farm if the fight comes to them on a specific spot they'll take
it but right now I think they'll just chill back and let that fight come
to them since they're just getting there getting the space on the map
still looks like they want to try it like I see them let go pinging for
tormentor perhaps on lgd they're trying to decide what's the next move that they
want to make maybe they can catch pma here with the sweep to the top lane
for the gates they don't have a lot of they're showing now the way so and no
bkb piercing disables right pma can just bkb tp out if they don't catch him
in a full chain stun, the elicor, they'll get a free one, that was kinda greedy by Theo
trying to farm a small camp with the bedlam, Navi's gonna try to make a move off of that
too, they didn't really, they didn't expand anything for it so, not looking like they
find anyone either them. Maybe they get as deep into the jungle to find Divy. And he is still
pretty far from this smoke move. That would be pretty devastating if LGD loses Divy. I mean he's
had in a way to join the rest of his team so good good yeah good awareness from LGD meaning
that they are unlikely to get caught by Navi's attempt to strike back with a smoke. He is going
just for Daedalus this time so adaptation with the build on the nature's profit. Navi's still
looking for the fight though looking for the positioning Theo might just walk
right into them again my game a second time just got them it'll be okay they do
see Nico pretty there they did see him for a second they're on pretty far on
the front lines but he'll be able to TP himself out PMA are they just gonna
go for divide we'll be able to get the blink away
Wits?
That's what the BKB, they may have to take out PMA.
There's one more they can go for, jump forward for Smael,
and then Mike Muck.
Now get the curse down on us, Smael,
but then Mike gets the jump all the way over to Reddy's.
Quick three kills here,
and Wits able to cleanly turn up,
clean up a couple of kills for himself.
He wants more, he's keeping forward, okay, he stops it.
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Got the juice! Can't get the Sander off!
There we go, Altea.
There we go!
Striking with force, waiting for their specific moment there.
Navi gets a little bit too aggressive and they get punished.
What did they have from earlier? They caught Theo.
They end up trying to go for these plays and it ends up hurting them a lot,
which does keep me forward, he feels confident.
And the ability this time, it's working with the Daedalus.
You can see that damage that he was able to do versus the Doom.
Shredded him.
Staying down here on the replay.
I mean, a good call from LGD to realize that they can turn this around.
Sure, started with sort of Divy TPing out as he needed to, snaking, dying, but Witt's,
he knows how strong he is right now. He turns up, gets the BKB off there,
his very little look can stop him. Sure, the curse came out,
but nobody was near Samal, so they did not care one bit about it
and Divy leading the charge confidently.
They wanted a big accelerant. That's what they needed.
Up to a 6K lead, slowing things down, finding God the juice now.
He continues to be just wits with that whole gold advantage.
Slew the 7k lead as him, keeping himself in a very good position.
Very close to being able to have the hurricane pike done, so he's going to even slip around these fights.
This one he's looking much more confident in with this team.
And he's got the protection through the centaur.
The stampede, the lotuses, getting close to a heart himself too.
They are working out so much better this time for LGD around the nature's profit lineup.
Ok, Niku's gone. I guess he felt like he needed it, going for the Octo-Rain.
I feel like they need a Hex afterwards. They need some extra catch on Navi.
No, they'll probably come next, right?
Quite difficult for them to set up on some of these targets.
It's like, Dave, do you land the Bushwack? No? Ok, the fight's hard.
Jump forward, they see Niku.
Dave's now leveled.
I'll get him.
Nice decisive hits. Getting rid of the wards too.
Still not looking toward the bottom side, but have done a great job of just controlling and occupying this topside, both 2-2s being dropped.
The deep aggressive wards that's snaking is placed too. That ward that's snaking got all the way on the right side when they're chasing juice before?
This could do quite a bit of work in catching the TB again or the Coddle. Either one of these wards as we say.
Stormhunter.
Taking the boxes, LGD.
Looking better and better in this game.
Na'Vi.
Still in their best interest to stall as much as they can.
This time got the juice he does by the shard before finishing up the Scotty and stuff,
so interesting.
I always want to get into the heads of some of these players sometimes, when they do want to do it and when they don't in some of these games.
It's quite intriguing.
Next big timing is how close the Sheevah is for PMA. He is about to have that done. Aegis is gone.
Witch is getting close to his next big item already though, so he is having one and a half item over the TB at this point still.
And the TB overall, it's not like these damage items, it's HP items, which of course give you natural damage on TB,
but this MP is going to hit very hard, they have to find a way to control Whitz
just not that much control on their draft
Danikou, he queues up the Hex next, has to be expected
he's got the Octurine for the Greed
but they definitely do need that extra form of control
Oh, TD, it's just the two supports here.
They just walk away again.
Snae, this time probably does die.
Looking for a neutral creep to deny himself to, but Witt kills them in front of him.
Oh, playing support sometimes is sad.
He was running at the bench, he was like nah, my gold.
So 600 gold, that's quite a bit that they get for snaking.
Still sticking around on this bottom lane, wanting to get rid of this tier 1.
He could just spamming it out.
As we said the game plan from Navi, it is just delay delay delay until he got the
just feels like he is the strongest here on the map.
So yeah, it's still going to take a bit of time to get there.
Pretty much the Skadi and then the Daedalus, if you can get those two done,
then it does start to get to the point where if they get kind of like a doom
or the bushwacker or the Hex eventually on towards the Nature's Prophet,
they will have the damage to kill him.
Yeah.
That means that next pick up off to the Scotty for that to really be a reality.
It definitely feels like one of the closest games that we've had.
30 minutes in.
We'll get to see again if this...
Just gets pushed out of the bushwhack.
And then you have poor...
Snaking of course, being left in the dust.
Oh, okay, so that's what they were saying, I guess he got the Shadow Remov before the
Silents had connected?
Yeah, he's got that little bit of time right there for you to actually disappear and Shadow
Remov to press.
Yeah.
I'm flood damaged right now.
They're getting time for Doom to come back up though.
15 seconds, they get the kill bottom, it's coming back up, there is Stampede
at the ready, but Doom is 10 seconds away. Sumel? Sumel? He's going to get a jump me first.
Reveals juice.
Ah, Daze? Find the bushwag for Lotus, is that?
Cut the tree as well, Theola of course still has a quality blade, so did cut the tree.
That works out nicely for LGD, just having sort of Sumel there being able to scout that.
Put a stop to the play.
Doom is back at the ready though.
We won't be able to find the grab.
Tense moments here around the next rush.
We can tell they're already positioned for it and I'll be wanting to contest that next
one, but LGD of course wanting to get it themselves.
Both teams trying to control this area right now.
Ag's doom, it's coming pretty soon.
PMA is quite large. He is continuing to match the farm of his tower blade. I don't know how he's doing this time, but PMA always has the farm, it feels like.
How close to Hex? Niku is getting closer and closer too.
Smell. Just a casual stun. It'll be okay.
Okay, both teams just very much so I have posturing around that bush, Niku just shocker
and got the juice.
This is actually a nice one too, right?
With the, I always say with the TB, but even factoring Demon's Eel, I have like permanent
Demon's Eel for two shots.
I mean, the bomb seems crazy.
Right?
I think it's the third chakra that gives you permanent Demon's Eel.
So yeah, so Tommy's work out with the reduction.
Pretty much.
It's pretty close, so.
It's going to have a couple seconds of downtime with just two chakras, so maybe
it's four chakras, whatever, either way.
It's very, very quick that it comes back up.
So now I'll be ready to fight LGD, as well.
Okay, back to the charge.
He's got the air.
Oh, he's gonna get him with the air.
We do one of the two of them.
The pie will be able to step out of it, though.
Allow the chance of snaking to run.
We'll see if the side jumping forward a burst.
Now, look at the days.
Take him out.
Hurs is there, though, from Riddies.
Look at the two of them down.
Allows them to fight the other core and return.
Defyce to number the who's top one of the both of them.
Five eyes coming out from both teams.
So fast mode is.
Well, Samayla's snaking ready to jump back in.
They're looking for the jump once the water got the juice.
Can they burst him?
It's so close.
He's still alive, he's fine.
The second will get Lotus, doesn't matter.
He'll still live through it.
Got the juice and take out Snake King.
Oh, it's crumbling.
They're running down.
Dubai's going to try for the TPL.
They've got nothing in range to stop.
And as they do the Blades back up.
PMA, he can't put a stop to in time.
Triple kill.
Four got the juice.
Oh, PMA jumping out the doom
for so many reactions. I guess he felt like he could stand with satanic toe-to-toe, but there's a Scotty.
He's just reducing that health frustration completely.
I mean this was always going to be what could happen after a certain point right in this game.
Yes, it's the nature's profit. You have this network lead, you have this advantage and potential
to turn up and put the pressure on early, but now in these fights it becomes so much harder
because if stepped in the wrong place, the terribly will destroy you now.
The positioning from Navi just was very good, right?
Watch them just reset toward that high ground.
You can see that LKD is like, we need to chase,
we want to chase to get these extra kills.
But Wix trying to stand toe-to-toe versus God the Jew is just not going to work.
Look at the illusions already beating on him.
Just that heal reduction too pops a tannic,
but there's no healing that's going to be coming out
versus a Scotty at this point.
And he got blinded to the end there.
I think so too.
Did he get a chance to get the PK heal?
I don't know if it would make too much of a difference
because of how much damage he was just taking from the Terrablay,
but didn't manage to get it off.
Very painful moments, a fight that LGD really wants to win
at that point, now we're getting toward the late game
and that's where Navi thrives.
Absolutely, got the juice.
This game only gets easier and easier for him
with every one of those fights.
And Niku...
We saw last game where they were massively behind
and got the juice was kind of owning in a losing game.
You know, considering how badly everything else
was going around him, he was doing great.
And some are also, Niku, he has yet to die on the cuddle.
That fight, he's just able to spam literally every single ability off.
You can sometimes even notice and factor in all the heals that he gets extra.
Now he's got the hex for the next fight, too. The teamfight is ramped up so much.
LGD, it's way more difficult now at this point.
It really is.
It's really extra items.
They have to find some perfect moments really around the metamorphosis and search to take a fight to go to the juice,
but that's obviously so hard as you pointed towards early because he has this colt behind him.
There's not a huge amount of that sort of window.
That's just refreshing him the whole time. Look, Meta's now only 50 seconds cooldown, the amount of conjure images too, if you watched in that last fight.
Do you see any illusions he had? That's definitely because of some extra shockers that were coming into play.
That'll be tough times ahead for LGD here in this game, 3-0.
The Navi's Greed has completely paid off. They did get what, 8k gold behind overall, but it really...
They were still showing that they can fight versus it anyway.
Now got the juice field very confident.
I mean, I understand that he's so right, it's just, who really kills it?
Like, again, the Void Spirit and Sentor very burst-focused heroes, their burst doesn't scare a terror blade,
and as we're seeing in the fights, the Nature's Prophet, he doesn't really scare a terror blade anymore.
That time is long gone.
Yeah, the thing about like the Sentor and the Void Spirit, right, their damage stagnates pretty hard after that mid-game.
It's not like it increases that much, sure you can add these like spell lamps and all this,
but when you really do the math on all the numbers of the spell lamp,
It does hit a certain threshold that when you get to these HP pools the TV's is gonna live versus the burst
He's gonna probably get the sunders off. So LGD these next moments
They have to hit and they have to pretty much like 400 to zero
They need a crazy fight here LGD. They have to kill one of these cores hundred to zero the sort of things
Because otherwise the heels are gonna come in the resets are gonna come in as we saw there
It feels it's
Got two times harder got the juices got a safe time coming out for the next flight. So
So Tannick he's got the heals that come from the cartel and I think the cartel almost is about to have an agonist so extra control
Oh then he could get the courier though to buy
That's big money
And he might die for that though
So he did jump in to kill the courier with the Z Tannick on
But it cost him his life
That's not worth it
So, and he probably isn't broken
And that's his up, the creep wave's coming in
He doesn't need this guy
Oh, sorry, I didn't need this attanement.
He doesn't care that he doesn't have to say time.
They just got a freebie off the center because of it there.
Another catch to snaking.
Oh, the force will get him out of the side.
He's going to get quiet and sleep on the next.
The male is dead.
Niko waiting for him to find port back.
Very aggressive.
He's done.
Oh, they're crumbling on.
Stampede also used.
Navi have hit their stride completely here.
full agendims for Niko as he said yet to die. Only the one kill on to got the juice as well.
They save for PMA, right? These cores are just not dying. It's all just support kills that
they've been able to find on the side of LGD. And Matt, that's probably the main one as well,
right? You do feel what looking back at the laning stage. There's not really many
reasons why the Doom should begin as good a time as he did. Like, yeah.
He got too much. Yeah. He definitely got too much. PMA played it beautifully.
He kept himself at this point that he's just the head of the centaur, which you rarely see.
He may not do farm so well. We've seen centaurs be able to match, if not surpass that in most games, so...
Yeah, very, very tough game for Whistakar right now.
Yeah.
He's got a lot of money still. You know, 8k going in the back, but what do you buy?
You've got the juice. Be able to reset himself away.
And also, I did want to thank him for Sumail. One of those games that he's had a tough one.
They're gonna jump into the tombstone.
Wait, we're just... we're gonna even die here, the flame?
I think he popped out and died to the fire instantly.
It's gonna look like he kinda died inside the tombstone, but your eye must have just instantly died as it came out.
Yeah, I was like, wait, you can die in tombstone?
No, not the kiss.
Another Rax being claimed. Two sets. Navi, it's Moog's Ellen for them now at this point.
What what the advisements it's not a great right here carry
You have to I think you just have to it's gonna be something like that, right?
Yeah
I really do think that you need to know just so that if you as a team if you know if divide is able to find the
Who's stomp and there's some sort of remnant into if they can lock down the terror blade
You have to be a hundred percent sure that you're gonna provide the damage to kill him
Hey, you better spend his goal. He has 9,000 gold on it's been a while since you've not spent it
I need to buy something here.
LGD looking to try to catch Navi off cover. Everything's pretty much back up.
Niko gets the DKB off.
The hex on the divide.
Get the stampede off.
Get the fiend run. They should be able to escape.
We'll get back over to the relative safety at their side of the map.
So Duel is wasted.
Yeah, that is one thing.
I mean, he's just probably saving so he hasn't enough money when he sells Treads to buy Disperser and still have buyback.
have buyback I guess so yeah but it does feels grim when you're behind you're not
able to take fights and you have a 9000 gold on your carry I'm sure you're just
telling him like spend on something how much does he need for buyback and
disperse it's it's close he's 700 away yeah so there we go so you can now start
getting that sorted we'll have that ready for the next play okay gives him
extra ways to reset play around things perhaps get some of these spells but I
I mean, it's just, it's always one of those temptations right when you need to get rid of the trench, right?
You need someone that's gonna give you some ability and the place is kinda the one that...
...does both.
Yeah, just doesn't feel like it's enough damage.
I do wanna highlight again, Niku. I just think that's really smart. Going to BKB's second item this game.
It's just, he hasn't died, and it's a lot because of that. He may be able to just get a big BKB off, reset.
LGD looking again for some type of catch while Navi's not ready.
And they get Riddies. He's got A on disc.
Oh, he's able to get away from the remnant.
He uses the curse as well to look down Samael. The willow is down on top of him.
He ought to get the ULs off the stampede there. They do kill Riddies.
Samael's able to back off thanks to the stampede. And they get days.
They get the two supports there, LGD.
That's not ensured. Samael gets out.
He lives.
So very important.
Can they chase for more here don't know if they really want to either into the high ground is this is a pretty terrifying
Terrible aid do them now on top of having the agonies with the break
He's got the mute from the 25 talents close to refresh your also
Decent hit but again just looking at the support deaths, right?
How many does days have and how many doesn't really have their 14 of the 16 kills is supports
So the ideal I would say for Navi
Keeping their cores always protected sacrificing those supports when they need to
Okay, what's what's the next one because now he does have the disperser he's got the buyback, but he's got no slots
So he's gonna have to start maybe just buying the aggonyms
He's gonna have to I don't cuz what what else can you get rid of?
He's a taxi that's
So there's a lot the greatest for some reason I'm like getting just a little moonshot before the eggs, baby
But they're gonna go for the Roche. They do kill it pretty fast
They might take the fight after it though, it's not a big deal.
I'm not beyond that strong.
If they want to do it, they could.
Let's see if they still want to go for this.
Yeah, the boom's coming out.
PMA's ready for the jump bit on a snake.
Start the fight looking for the undyped.
He's going to get forced to the side.
PMA is still ready to push on forward,
but the LGD will be able to split and step away from it.
Sumail messing with the back lines.
Do I actually get the stun on T'Niku?
The curse is gonna be down though.
Niku healed up by the cold embrace.
He's been charged to run Theo's suit below in the side of my hook.
The first deploy now snaking, taking all the damage if we've got the juice.
He'll buy back the Olicor.
And the sharpshooter on towards Witt.
Still difficult to step anywhere close to the terror plate.
Back in the mid, they get the stun set up on to goodbye
They have a lot of whips. Locking down the turnip for now. Wins.
It's a quick time to kill it off.
Jumping again for Divide.
It's the catch on Aniku. They have to snap B for Aniku.
Pops back with a BKV.
Days, finds the bushwhack, get onto Wins.
Little slide back to safety.
Define a getting caught here by the slows.
Still has enough HP to survive.
Aniku!
They get the hook again on Aniku.
This time they succeed him.
Bringing him down.
Finally gets this Coddle.
He's been so elusive. He doesn't have buyback either.
He's dead for 90.
They need to chase for the war.
So for Morwitz, he does find Dr. Juice, but nothing on his own to be able to stop the TP.
Over the walls of the Roche pit, they find Riddies.
That was a pretty crazy fight, just dancing.
It was like, what, 80 seconds of nobody dying, and then they finally will be able to find you.
Just good kiting this time around from LGD.
They ensured that Na'Vi, they didn't really find a solid chance to get on top of multiple heroes with the Doom.
They kiked that out, then with the Will of Wisp dropped down, with the Metamorphosis out,
LGD just able to kind of play the edges of the fight rather nicely.
They did I believe what it was a buyback just about like it was so long ago
But it was a buyback divide was the one who actually grabbed the ages there
Maybe there's some slot things that are going on here because NP has no item slots divide
Maybe feel like he's gonna get doomed
All right time to see what they can do with this 50 seconds without Niku in the game LGD
They are absolutely gonna want to try and do as much as they can
Before now if you get the full team fight back together and they've got ages they've got cheese
They've got refresher shard. I did want to highlight to Sumail in that last fight
He's been pretty quiet for a lot of this game.
This one, he did jump the back lines
when PMA had initially jumped the front line.
So you could see the indecision from Navi
of who to go for there.
That definitely started in a,
one of the more awkward fashions that Navi's tried
for a team fight in this series,
just going a bit too aggressive and a bit too deep there
to try and start things with the initiation from PMA
does cause it to end a bit messy.
And for the first time,
they actually allow with Niku,
his positioning gets broken a bit there
because of how the fight ends up going down. He gets gone on like two or three times.
Sherry gets saved by some bodies, but eventually Sumail ends up finally ending up being able to clean him up.
Yeah, very strong signs there from LGD that they might just be able to
bring the game back into their favourites. It's still not going to be easy.
Sumail's damage is going to step up pretty big soon as he's a thousand away from having the Parasma.
They do finally though, right? Getting one core kill again after...
When was the last time they actually killed a core?
The last time they killed a core was at the 25-minute mark when they killed PMA.
So important that they're able to get this Niku down, slow down some of that momentum he's building to.
Now Wipz has got the money to get the Moonshade.
He'll still have the buyback if he wants to.
He's hit 25 as well too, so he's got the treants.
Extra pressure on these lanes.
Navi, see where they want to go from here.
25 is starting to get hit on some more of these heroes, TB.
That meta now essentially is going to be permanent with the way that he's getting shockered in the fights.
But LGD, if they can take the fights like that, slowly approach him, poke and prod, force reaction from Na'Vi.
Still looking like they have a fighting chance.
I would still go for the agonist first before the lunge shard and the axe is very good.
It does apply like that root which is a disarm as well too so it can stop some of the damage
that comes out from the tower blade during those moments.
Yeah, it's just going to take a little bit more gold to have that buyback but he's
pretty much got enough for that so it looks like he should be able to get that done
for the next play though.
Take the Tormentor.
Oh my god, snaking. Wait.
What? It was dead and then he died.
Was it?
Oh, did the Prophet Pendulum just happen?
Oh, it would have right, because it's uh...
Delayed damage over the Dice, right?
I thought they changed that.
No, I think it used to be the avoid round, right?
Like, it couldn't kill you before, but now it can.
Oh, I thought that they made it, but you can't die to the Delayed Damage.
But he definitely died to the Delayed Damage because the Tormentor was dead and then he died.
Well that sucks for him, but what can you do?
Well, 40 seconds non-dying.
Nobby.
Yeah, and he's back in, uh, just looking at up early in the year, so delayed damage is now non-lethal
if the incoming damage source was non-lethal.
Uh, so only if it's like some non-lethal damage then it's not gonna suddenly like glitch and kill you.
I haven't seen that happen now in like a hundred and fifty seconds.
To die from the Tull Mentor.
Yeah, from the Tull Mentor.
Well, write it down, you know you learn things every single game.
Write that one down.
You'll be able to respawn at the least, but yeah, that just kind of sucks for snaking.
Symbale, as you said, his damage, he's starting to ramp up as well after that moment.
He was starting to fall pretty far behind on the numbers, now is starting to trickle back
up there close to 25 as well.
The Parasma burst, they can definitely pop Niku if he's not careful with his positioning
now at this point.
With the extra damage that Sumail has now gotten as we see in that last fight.
Tense moments here.
Devy still stalling how long he wants to wait to buy the workhorse as well too
Because it is a decent game for it, just it's a bit hard versus Centaur, sometimes right
because you're silent, you can't actually grab them and put them inside of it if you are
near that boom, so.
Push, starting to come in, they're just refreshing down the juice all the time with the Chakra,
so lots of illusions.
Difficult for Elgin to stop these sort of pushes.
They gotta do something, I mean the illusions are just going to keep getting pumped in
with the Chakra.
Now what's the... Losing half is HP of the illusions.
Another one.
Not an easy game into the Terrablade at this point.
TB Cottle, he has permanent mana and permanent illusions being busted out.
Even divide jumping and taking a lot of damage from these.
It's a dirty combo if you do get to this point as you say.
There's smoking bay, like we need to do something, we can't just let them do this.
We're going to drop some sort of wraparound.
Snaking?
See how prepared Navi is for it.
Snaking and Samal, looking for Niku ideally.
We're going to see him.
We're going to try to jump straight away.
Peer Bay is in with the Doom.
They'll be able to stampede and get out of the range of the Doom.
Snaking?
It's time to ward the Undyne.
Pushback is one of the locking down.
They've caught him and they've killed him.
Snaking's dropped.
Divy almost dying of the illusion.
He'll get away.
Samal has to jump out.
See what's trying to stand his ground here gets caught the juice, but I don't know that's gonna work out
Blitz he's gonna run
BKB and keep his distance
We get away from got the juice from now got the juice ever send the back of the footage
P curses slightly look at the curse only catches the two supports though smell coming up with the counter play
The pushback catcher got a vote to buy and stake in the first two riddies
He'll die through the cordon breaks
Navey the push back with a do out of use two buybacks for this Niku though on the side of Navey
He did buy back himself. He did he does not have spirit form either
So they do not want to fight without that device trying to chase back up and reset divide did use
I think the refresher chart to survive there. You almost actually sign on any way to the illusions
Expensive fight especially from LGD using the double buybacks, but Niku
Didn't get much done with his buyback afterwards. It's a spirit form is not up yet
Oh, it's a bit of a rough career loss there for Theo Lecaud.
Did lose, I think to the creeps, had his full hex on.
Oh, no.
So there'll be no hex for two minutes.
He spent up the buyback goal to have that.
So we'll have to play it careful for the next couple
of minutes at the least, LGD.
Bit painful.
The LGD, they tried to get that wrap around there.
They do end up finding Nico, took them some time
because PMA was instant.
He was so ready as that.
You're on top of my cartel.
I'll be on top of you.
They know that that play is coming.
You could see Nico's positioning being like, hey,
they're coming from the north side so they will be prepared for but Aniku did
use the buyback in the last fight so they do have a condition of at least trying to
take him out and then playing that 4v5 because the Coddle is very strong in these
teamfights what he's been able to do of just pumping up the tower blade
but Sumail not having the buyback very dangerous very tense here
and how does it ever stand toe to toe right that's the issue is how is
ever gonna bring down this TV is the question it's gonna have to be as a
full team unit not just this one-to-one battle by any means
and I'm looking to strike looking for the octane next with spot I don't know
where he is sort of gonna slot that one in maybe it's just to swap items in and
out when you are popping the old season whatnot but sure I guess it's nice
to swap him when you're just going for the pressure spamming treats out
snaking low cooldown we'll get spotted that is flesh golem used so not
I think for the moonshot though doesn't doesn't want to go for that that is actually quite interesting like that
Yeah
That's of course got the juice is he's pretty much done moonshotted in Agnes blessing obviously he's he's done
Divy
Jump forward there. Remember this time device does not have that refresher sharp for himself
So last fight he would have died without it
Navi, the Refreshers are starting to come back up, Dooms Refresher 14 seconds, so they'll
have to double-dilm available.
And that's Flash Golem on cooldown from snaking for some time now, 100 seconds.
That definitely has to be a world where LGD is just considering avoiding everything
until these buybacks are up.
Yeah.
And wait, Theo, how long?
It's about seven seconds.
Okay, he's going to have his hex in the start.
but yes, the 4-5 minutes until Sumail has Vibeck.
Rosh going to be the next point of contention though, they have to be prepared for it here.
They do have the cheese to protect Sumail for the secondary life, well, for his first life.
Has hit 25-2, so he has big burst damage. He's got the giant small as well too.
If he can find the connections onto the coddle, it's the ideal target for Sumail.
Niku's looking for more and more protection himself.
protection himself he's going for a blink dagger with the a on disk so looking to
blink out when the a on procs
I didn't get them
the moon shot in step wits yeah so maybe forgot about it for a moment there
so he's pretty much
completed his build yep unless you want to start switching things which he
might do at some points
got the juice also the moon shot is right
the buy. The who's stop making sure that
nobby don't have a super free time taking the rose from him. They still do because they're on top of him with the dude.
The headstuff all off, the buy he's going down. He's got buyback.
But it's a big kill for them to get. You can maybe even just go for the rose share too.
The up to just let them, unless you want to make some crazy play with buyback.
Do you want to put it all in to try to stop and take this
taking this rose share?
Thea?
Still trying to...
He's going to get caught!
So get into the tombstone, so they're able to jump in at first for a day.
So the buybacks come out from the divide.
Oh, Rosh is so wrong at this point.
Buybacks are going to come in for a day.
So over to the side, PMA gets another jump on Athea.
Shadow round there, they'll also use the stampede to...
Oh, Rosh is looting.
Rosh is going to start shifting.
Both teams are going to be ready to move with him.
Oh, this has gotten incredibly awkward here at this point.
can they kill it anyway I don't know if they have the damage to kill it in the
river they're going to try blasting it a little bit here
He's with the form, look at the pushback, the force is on the side, they have to break Sumail out of the jump, they get him away.
Sumail will be fine for now, snaking not so much, there's PMA, he's on some of them with the doom.
He's gone, he has five back available wins, but snaking does not.
Oh yes, he has the cease to start, she's going to be back for round two.
Sumail?
They get over to try and help Sumail. Up in the air, as he comes down, we'll be able to astral step back to simulate a way.
Sumail's five wins is dead.
He's just gone.
He's just gone.
He's gone for good.
As he steps for two minutes,
Debye also to fall.
That's gonna be it.
As Navi, they've got the midway
coming in, they can look to end it.
They won't even need to.
The game's already called.
Gigi's called.
As Navi, take the series two to one
here with this game three win.
They got the juice.
He got to have some slight fun
in the last game of this terribly.
And even though he was so far behind
the game to their life. What
mean you kind of good on this
terrible late even though the
game kind of rough. Let's just
run it back. He ends with 1000
CS of 10047 last hits 1000 G.
P. M. I want a performance by
got the juice and a lot also
for P. M. A. What a doom
performance. Yeah, so some
crazy stuff all around and
again, I'll be doing these
victories in their own flair
bring them some mid call
for me who looks fantastic.
LGD they gave it their best
effort to keep the game going
to keep the game going and give themselves a chance, but they couldn't turn it.
Navi, take the series. They're moving on to the Grand Finals.
They are, and I couldn't be happier. We told you to pay attention to this team,
I think like days and days and days ago. Something has just clicked within them.
The vibes, Immaculate, the drafting, Immaculate, the performances, perfection,
and LGD, you can see there, the captain needs like, holy moly, what have I got myself into?
It's tough
Yeah, it is really tough
But looking at the Navi side dude on the cameras you can see they're so happy every time they win
past the playoffs they have been so
Grateful every time they win and it's like gratitude towards the situation
But also each other in the moment they get up
They're like hugging each other high-fiving like pumping each other up and this is what you need to go from that game
two that was honestly very devastating for them to a dominant game three yes it
was back and forth because they're playing against LG they're playing against
snaking and his captain it's a really tough opponent and that makes it all
the more impressive that they were able to do this and have such a back-and-forth
game but they still maintain the lead the whole time absolutely really happy
for Navi because they kind of deserve it it's it's been a while since we've
seen them do well and it's been too long since last yeah I got second place at
the last but that this is a bit due to the format as well this is the you know
Swiss double-limb this is the real deal where they are gonna be able to showcase
what they're made of and I gotta say see why he cooked some of the like very
interesting drafts as well and I said that if they go out here they go out
with the style but they're gonna be entering the grand finals with even
upgraded style picking up this caudal in the end. Did Javi doubt storm? I didn't know about this
caudal at all. Yeah I did. He did great, like he was making the rotations early on,
didn't upgrade the spirit vessel, had a casual urn, turned that into orchid because he wanted
to put slightly more pressure on the Simeo. He did sell it later, but the spell casting from
the distance, extra bit of a heal coming out from him, he healed him for 55,000 damage in that
game. That's insane. I'm personally a big caudal mid believer. It just requires the right type of
player. You need a specialist that's playing it. And what I find so impressive about Navi and Niku in
particular is that so many of the bands in the draft have to be dictated by his hero pool.
You know, we see the Kez being banned, Ember being banned, even the undying mid.
People are starting to have to consider, depending on what their mid laner is and what
matchup is and now you have the question is he going to whip out the call to last pick and have
a insane early game. I'm looking at the damage numbers. It's position two, three, four and five
on LGD gaming didn't deal as much damage as Terrorblade. So like four heroes on your team dealt
less damage. He dealt 76000 damage combined. They dealt like around 70 and we also mentioned
the caudal that he outhealed most of that damage because he was healing them for like
50,000 as well. It's just an insane number. And the gut juice, I gotta say, he has looked
amazing. One of the reasons why we highlighted him multiple times throughout Valakia. He
was breaking the records and he's just insane. If he's on a winning hero, he's
going to take over the game, something that Niku said in an interview that we played earlier
today as well, just that this guy, if he's in a win condition, he is going to deliver,
and there's a reason why they're pushing for this terrible late, knowing that they always
have something to fall back to.
Bro had five deaths in the entire series when they lost game two.
That is an incredible performance.
It takes a very good carry player to have such a performance, but also a team that
trusts and respects him and I like that they go for the
terribly even though it's into timbersaw and we have our reservations and it's
had some of its issues it's still their style which I love
well we can talk a little bit about their style because
Nomad is called Fidi Doctor. Thanks I think yeah I'm here with Riddies from
Navi congratulations you have made it into the grand finals of
How does that feel?
I would say it's impossible.
It was also a very stressful game,
but we won and we are super happy.
Finally our second Grand Final.
Hope you'll win.
We will see, indeed.
Yeah, well let's talk about that game first.
Of course, long game, third game,
very stressful.
How do you keep it together in a situation like that?
I mean, we knew that we have
very good heroes and we can outscale them.
And then just
outscale them and then just try to keep it calm and stop some guys from
stressing and then it's going to be like easy to chill reset so that's kind of
it. Chill, chill, chill. Seems to be the name of the games from you guys which is
fitting because you were playing Wyvern. How does that feel in the like game?
What do you focus on achieving in a game like this when the fights are so
chaotic? What's your goal on this hero? I mean on Wyvern it's mostly
important to not fuck up you know with the role so you just probably
I like hold it still I fucked up few fights, but I got carried you know post five is the easiest role I would say
You know how they say it, but yeah
I'm glad that I didn't ruin and this enough you won and I'm happy and happy for the team and we're all super super happy
Yeah, you can see that for sure a lot of motivation going into these grand finals
I'm especially because LGD were the team that took you down to the lower bracket initially
So how do you feel like you've changed since that series where they beat you?
I mean, we kind of got unlucky, we were also owning them in game 3, but we just made some also like chaotic decisions, then we lost it.
We knew that we can win them, and also Siwei like last 3 days he prepared super good, all games I would say out draft maybe, and yeah, it was amazing.
It must do, it must do, but there is the big boss coming, the raid boss of this tournament it feels like a lot of people have been saying that Yandex are just on another level.
of a level. What do you have to say to that?
I mean they have Saks, God of Dota, how we call him.
I know you'll see. I think to be honest, it was the first time we lost to Yandex, I think, in this tournament.
I would not say it's a comfortable opponent, but it's not the hardest for us.
So we'll see. I think we just need to be mentally well and good with drafts,
and we can show our game and then we'll see.
Alright, last question. You don't have to tell me what it is, but does CY have anything special prepared for Yandex? Is he ready for them?
Yeah, CY is super ready, as always, you know. He got his coach papers, so yeah, we'll show.
Alright, thank you very much, Riddies. Congratulations. I'm super looking forward to seeing you play in those grand finals.
Thank you.
I love it. Release the CY files, dude. He's got the papers. He's ready to go. I love that confidence because look, let's be real.
real. We haven't seen Na'Vi in this frame of mind before. Usually when we listen to Na'Vi
do an interview, it's a loser's interview in the group stage about how they came so close.
Now they're heading into a grand final. So many times, but I like the vibes of this team.
Yeah, they're really enjoying themselves. Like even when they lose, they always give out good
interviews, but you can tell that no matter what happens, it's just good data coming out from
them and it's also the team is sticking together this is the squad that they believed in they replaced
one player but other than that they kept everything else untouched and it really shows that sometimes
when you stay together it really pays off. And no matter what no matter who we interview they're
always like upping someone else on the team right the gritties in this situation he's talking
about how CY has out drafted and pretty much all of the last games that they've played
They have so much confidence in each other and that goes such a long way and to Grand Finals in this situation apparently
I've got to be honest. I think that's been the key difference. Honestly. I think every time I've seen them drafting's been a little bit
Slip-shards, you know, they they lock-in comfort picks where maybe they shouldn't drafting's been immaculate for them
This competition and also doing the boring things, you know, like let's not go high ground when there's a Roche available
Let's let's do this attritional dota style. It's how you win tournaments, unfortunately, and Navi is starting to get that into their exuberant, exciting style.
They slip, they slip up every now and then, which is really fun, you know, we get some crazy like RP, you know, attempts at RP for Niku and playing crazy heroes.
So they, there's still the enough fun for us to love and root for them. But then we get a team that's in the grand finals.
Yeah, they definitely sharpen it up when it comes down to making some of these classic
Na'Vi mistakes, and it definitely shows in their gameplay and coming into the grand finals.
It's not going to be an easy opponent by any means, but if they keep drafting, if they
keep playing like this, they might give it a good shot, because yet they just seem
to be on another level throughout the whole tournament.
Yeah.
All right, guys.
Usually this is the point where I say goodbye, but there's an hour break also for Na'Vi,
So we're doing something.
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Nine. Six. It's not coincidence. Or is it? No. Every time you come.
Minus 2, water rune, minus 4, water rune, minus 5, minus 6, minus 7.
So basically I don't leave mid.
Yes.
Go double mid, Vizag.
No, no, after two minutes, because I need to exit here before.
I can play tiny.
You can play your hero.
No, no, no.
Just count to two minutes.
I think it's situational, but most games, it should come at six.
It's six, but the other way.
So I turn it and it's nine.
So we agree together.
Okay, I can explain. Every time I'm not playing stun and matchmaking, it's impossible to play.
It's zero dopamine. You cannot kill anyone. All you can do is FK farm. And Niko has four
because he can FK farm and I cannot FK farm. So it's more fun game for him and I don't
have any gameplay, but you can win still.
You know, it's like, there's half of mid lane heroes that are not like, no door for
me to play because they are like, being stunned almost, and I don't like it, but there's
like some like, MP, like some of these heroes that is just param, but they have no stun
basically, that's the only reason why heroes are not killed, so it's like 50-50.
Yeah, but I enjoy to play heroes without stun, and sometimes I can pot, there's
some dude saying, oh we cannot win because he has zero stuns, like, like, what is
What is your pick? Why do you pick this hero? Why do you have no stun?
That's so boring for me. You can win any game.
Nine.
I can explain, okay. Nine if it's against. If it's Niko, it's MealHusker, then it's zero.
It's all the same for me, man.
When I'm playing Husker, I enjoy playing Husker.
But when you play against Husker, you hate this guy.
Because the hero is so so blind to play games.
It breaks the game.
Zero.
Zero? You don't like to talk about your personal life?
Yes.
I'm anonymous in our team.
Well, it's kind of true.
I don't know, I like to talk about life stuff with the boys.
So it's not a problem for me.
It's also very fun.
I'm an Anonymous.
Seven.
It's always hard to blame other people because you feel bad in pub,
and you want to say some toxic shit,
and after you say something toxic, you feel fast, like, believe.
Also, maybe if you're wrong, but you used to start first, start blaming first,
then everyone thinks that you're right.
You're in a high position against the guy who maybe was right.
But overall, in life, in a Dota, it's 7.
Sometimes it's healthy, sometimes it's not.
In the pub, it depends on the person.
You must do it.
In the pub, I don't know, maybe most of it's true.
Red heals and Dota, the only thing that you have.
But overall it's not good. I wouldn't go.
I think it's depressed. Probably. It gets super depressed.
So, you know, I decrease it. It's too.
It's too. I hold one.
Okay. Not zero at all.
Not under the world.
Not zero at all.
Yeah, not under the world.
Hello and welcome back. We have a little bit of time. Oh, he's way better looking than me on
There's a little bit of fuzzy
Sit by and let me do an intro. Could you read? No, it's like when we interrupt your stories at the green
We are just asshole. Sorry, dude. That's okay. That's sorry. You're my assholes and I love all right
That is I don't know about that. Let's start guys
Excellent. All right
We are gonna play a little bit of a game because we got some time to go before Navi versus Yandex
So I've assembled my three smartest talent, and I'm gonna be putting that to the test
We have Richard Lewis, we have Jenkins, and we have Kezu, and they're gonna be battling for points in this game show
We're gonna have three phases, we'll get into all that later on
But as you can see behind you a gigantic leaderboard has appeared. Oh shit. Let's imagine Raleigh Arena. Oh, they have leaderboards
Yeah, we... What, I think you've got zero points. So do you idiot
I can't play it back to you for me back to you. All right. Thank you very much gentlemen
I'm so yeah, we're gonna play three three rounds
We'll get to the rules of each round later on
But the important thing to know is that there is a lot at stake here because the winner is going to get to make a tweet
Or an Instagram post on the loser's social account jokes, and you have already got Facebook
Did you always have a mustache?
Looks good
Looks good on you. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. All right. Let's get into the first round now
This first round is testing. Oh, sorry. I forgot the most important part
Okay, the rules of you. Oh, I wonder what that was. What yeah, I got envelopes money. It's money. It's a prize pool
These this is
Don't open that today rates this is
Each of you have a secret task
Well, it's a secret punishment actually and if you fail that task if you fail the thing inside the envelope
Then you'll be minus five points. Okay, which is gonna be tough. It's a lot of can I tell people my secret you can't look
It's a punishment
No, so if did you do that? I think maybe
So basically there's a secret punishment if you break that rule you don't know what the rule is
It's like secret ticks basically. Yeah, it's if he says Pokemon Pokemon 20 times then he gets minus five points exactly
I get it. You've got it. You've got it. I follow the thing that's in there, but you know what it is
I'm not sure what he's gonna do.
This is making me nervous.
I know he's picked things that we normally do, so I might have done it like four times already.
Yeah, exactly right.
All right, let's get into it.
Let's get into it.
We're gonna start with flashbacks where we're gonna be looking at parts from this.
Well, Akia things people have said.
All you guys have to do is tell me if you remember who said it.
Classic who done it?
I know this one.
Yes, very good.
The first question is with the power of dick chopper 9000
So
It didn't it didn't Richard Lewis you already knew it's but I already knew it anyway
I mean that's a that's the that's the easy one. Okay, so everyone is gonna get this one only okay
All right, wait wait. Sorry. Can you repeat the question because other tricks you said I have to know who did it
But you didn't say after no who said it who said it. Yes, okay. Yeah, I can are we getting faked out
You're not getting faked out already. Let's get real. Okay. I'm ready one go. I
wrote it super small
Excellent, that's a cylinder and excellent job. Yes, you're all correct. It is
Why do you think they would give us a massive board to write it? Yeah, I know I'm an idiot
Okay, good job. We're all on one point. That's absolutely perfect. Let's get on to the next question
So the next quote you have to tell me is
He's a piece of shit. Oh, right. This is Jenkins about me
He's a piece of shit. Don't copy each other. Yeah, I'm watching the question
Can it be a multiple answer like I can that's not you want one very first if you want the original poster
Oh gee, yes
Uh...
I'm not that loud.
All right, come on, Jenkins.
I need an answer.
OK.
Ooh, that's... that's a L.
That's an L answer.
All right, let's see them.
Don't... three, two, one.
Don't make it political.
Sunsphand, Fogged, T-Governor, and Kessie.
It's absolutely right.
It is indeed T-Governor.
That's that box.
I was on his shift, but that's kind of like cheating, wasn't it?
He's not usually...
I was there, I don't know.
He said that about Niku.
Let that sink it. Yeah. Well, okay. He's right. Niku is a piece of shit
He picks on dying mid like I'm a huge Niku fan. What's wrong with you guys?
Yeah, you can't say that most 17 year olds are I only reiterated on my panel
All right, let's move on to the next one. My next one is
My ass was too fat
That's me. My ass was there's two possible answers. Oh, that's Shannon or Richard. But yeah, he's been losing way lately
That's true, yeah, but he would say he's cheating it's true. Okay, I'm gonna
I feel like Richard is mind-gaming us. It wasn't him because we're currently leading with two points
My ass was too fat. That's was too fat. I've locked it in said somewhere during black. Yeah, wait, it's not
All right, three. There's a trick to one. Let me see it
This sounds fine. It should sons fan sons fan very close, but no cigar. It was in fact. Oh
Oh
How would you say that?
Come on. Yep. Yep. I mean I was like Charlie Brown big head small body
Big ass at all. Alrighty, let's get on to the final question off this round and it is
If he dies, I will buy you a house
If he dies, I know this one. I will buy you a house like I know this one Richard coming in confident
Jenkin still looking like a lost child in a supermarket
market. He's got to go to the help desk and put out a little super market has help desks.
Did that ever have me? Did you have the lesson? Yeah. I ran away. Honestly, this is just
a center in competition here. It seems like. Alrighty, let's see it. It's fun. This is
navi.us.fog. And it is indeed fun. Good job, Richard Lewis and Kezu. This is when
Owen says something stupid and then he's like oh and if they do this I'll buy your house
This is exactly how this works. It was a huska taking a Russian and yeah
Yeah, he was saying if he dies
Yeah, you could die here if you messed up the toggles and fucks like no
No, no, no, no brother by your house of it does so fuck can afford to as well
Because of his voice line. Yeah, he's that's a million dollars two million dollars and he gets so salty when you talk
I know it's like dude. You're rich. Okay. You pay collapsed advertising. This is not your segment guys
back to you nomad thank you kersie thank you i might i might drop you an extra point for that but
you're already in the lead so i won't um yeah take a look at the leaderboard there it is kersie
ahead with three points then richard louis the two points and then scrubs he's two one point
which brings us on two i con all over our next round so this time we're going individually that's
right we don't need the whiteboards for this one you can just tell me your oh okay oh this is
going to be bad we're making kind of nervous anyway so i i'm glad we're going to start with
be you Mr. Richard Lewis. That would have been done. A classic. I'm going to give you three questions
just for you. Are you ready? Yes. All right, your first question. Now, with this one, you only have
to get close. You get a point if you get close, you get exactly right. You do get yourself two
points. So I'm up for grabs here. So let's start with the first one. How many Pokemon cards does
Casio own? You said he can answer a range or no? No, just give me an answer. But if you're
within the range. The thing is, he, what a zoom, that was intense. The thing is, Kezu
buys Pokemon cards every event. We're on a time crunch. I should have brought a gun,
you want me to quiz, I want to win. It's three billion, thousand, three thousand. Three
That's what you're going for. All right, let's reveal that answer and take a look
Sorry, brother. You need to up that bad though 5,000 dude. It's easy to have 5,000 apartment
Yeah, how do you I can put 5,000 cards in this wooden box over here on this table? Yeah, it has a whatever
All right, I'm sure you don't get a point for that. It's not within my range
So let's move on to the next I'm gonna point and the next question is
How many herds is the aces public? Oh, it's only a sponsor so don't fuck this up rich
Good job guys the new one the one we're using at this tournament the one you see the players play on
What do you see every single day? I know I think I use this don't do that 610
Absolutely right bang on the money. Good job Richard Lewis. Yes. Yeah, this guy's good
I don't know how many hurts it hurts it doesn't work exactly and you should have what I mean
If you're looking at the screen and see me doing this waving my hand around that means
Wave your hand around there we go. There we go. If that looks blurry to you guys
Get the new ace. Yeah, 610 Hertz baby dead smooth. I do use an ace. I don't it doesn't have that many hurts
I do I haven't upgraded to the 610 yet. So you only play relic arena. All right
Final question for you Richard Lewis, how many games did Team Falcons have together?
He's gonna choke in their history as a team. Yeah shit cuz they weren't didn't they beat the OG record
You're outrageous for whispering in Falcons not the Counter-Strike Falcons. Yeah, not the nickel. All right, Lewis
I'm gonna have to hit you
And I can get close. I just think just hit you I can get close. Yes, okay. Say a number. No edgy 69
No, dude, it was like
6,000
No, it's 5,000 Pokemon cards. No, what's it like? They games not serious games games games come on Richard
Let's give me a number. All I need is a number right now. Yes
Stalling he's really taken advantage of not being a host 11
150 1115 let's take a look about
cost it's an acceptable guy original was gonna be 650 and then you put me off
would have been close but I'm afraid you gain two points you are on the lead
right now that's all I'm eyes all right let's move on to the next one and he
got one right two you got one exactly right so you get two points for that
all right let's move on to Kevin the rules cuz you go right cuz we look in
Oh boy.
How many downloads does Jenkins' game, Eureka Rina, have?
Why?
Shit.
Well, I don't even know the answer to this.
I'm gonna lock in with...
79,000.
I fucking wish.
79,000.
I'm gonna go with 60,000, dude.
I'm afraid, but it's not quite correct, cause it's...
That's a hard one.
Yeah, sorry.
That's a hard one.
That's all right, that's all right.
Let's move on to the next one.
How many likes does this video have on YouTube?
Right now.
this dream 519 that's not right that's wrong that's it for grand finals day that's
my dude that was crazy i'm with the youtube go you are
i'm okay with the point i saw right that that was crazy i got you a point for that
jake not not normal for this round but i'll break the rules just oh all right let's take a look
How many seconds of though to have been played at will actually find what these shit seconds? Are you gonna do the math?
Germans
Did you just complain cousin? I did. Could you please open?
Let's go with like
Complain about unfair questions
two points. I'm going to go with one and a half million seconds. One and a half million seconds.
That's a little off the mark there. It is two hundred and seventy four thousand two hundred and
twenty eight seconds. That was a very normal question. I'm impressed. I mean you're like in the
I'm getting sabotaged. Back to you Jenkins. All right. Let's go Jenkins. You're up. Your
question is how old is Richard Lewis. This is good because I've been lying about it for a long
time. Do you want me to say it on air?
He's 37. I know this one.
Screw you. Let's take a look at the answer. It is 44.
That's wrong. I'm 50.
Let's see what's the next one. What is the maximum height of a secret lab magnus death?
This is the height which Saksa plays at.
Are they there's a stand at a standing desk? I
I mean which if you can adjust it, it's quite high
I would guess I would guess what you said was a joke because socks is tall, but it's probably a standing desk
Can I say in feet?
Because I don't know I don't centimeters. I'm where could you gonna break the system?
I know you're gonna have to say centimeters like anyone translate. I would say like
130 centimeters 130 centimeters. Let's take a look at the answer
That is very good that comes if I guess 45 what have I got that would I have got the first question right if I said 45
I know your birthday dude, I mean all right
Final question for you. How many uncontested heroes have that been out lucky a nine
You showed us graphic every day. There's a
There's a hundred and three picked in the group stage
I'm guessing like maybe five or six more got picked. So that will leave like I would say
If 16 heroes, that's a good answer. I think that's a good answer
The 130 or like 129 28
One two seven. Okay. Wow. So we actually didn't breach. Okay. Well at the end of that round
We have Richard Lewis on four points now in the lead after very good Jenkins at three points and Kezu
Minus two and four. You're sabotaging the worst questions with the worst envelope on this table
Now we go one more round. No more round to go, baby. Let's go. All right for the final round
Please distribute the whiteboards again. I'm gonna be nervous again. Don't swear. It's your it's your envelope
All right, Mike so for this round
We're going purely off subjectivity. We're going purely off subjectivity. Okay, you're going to draw me some beautiful drawings
Oh my choose the best oh based on okay
First thing I want you guys to draw me is your favorite spell in the game
favorite spell favorite spell in the game what do you like casting what gives
you that dopamine which spell gives instant dopamine guys that's what I
want to know I mean I'd be during tether right now if I like being attached
to my friends really feeling like I'm attached to my friends I don't have
many friends I'm the time to do the details you only have 30 seconds of
20 seconds in so hurry it on up now guys okay five four three two one let me see it okay
well I was gonna do one on the other side you can tell what it is though right yeah I
did one of the so we got two stone yes yes meet her and never swap yeah but I didn't have
have enough time to put on the second arrow dude what even is terrible I'm not
very good at art I so want to give any
up go next round I like the tombstone Richard Lewis I'm gonna give you a
that's a good point yeah that's well dude and by the way this is really bad
for you guys because Richard Lewis being on front means he's the one that gets
to decide what's pulling your so we need to lock in so you need to lock in he's
banned on all these social media so I'm Richard that's not good you can't say
that you can't say that clean it clean it clean it all right next one what is
your favorite thing about working at pj lock here draw it draw it yeah draw your
favorite thing can it be abstract yes okay if I like it then it can be that's
all it comes down to we're just fighting out here guys there's no artists
amongst us, unfortunately. I mean, I'm sure there are, sometimes we do get a better job
at this, but none of you three, definitely. Which part of the reason why I chose you?
See some beautiful pictures here. 10 seconds left, guys. Get those drawings complete. And
time is up. Let me see it. Okay. Kassie, what is going on over there?
It says, days not seen.
Favorite thing about working luck here is LaCoste.
OK, that's kind of adorable.
And then you've put, is that really close?
No, I drew, this is Seb, our producer.
There's his new glasses.
Oh, it says Nirvana.
Desperate to get rehired.
It is a Nirvana.
So definitely rehired.
Minus points for sucking up to production.
Correct.
I'm not allowed to like it.
You put LaCoste.
What?
You said I'm a producer.
You just put the whole gang.
No, this is me.
I've got my arm around all of the doda people did you eat all of us and and then they all are that shiver
Yeah, I'm with the long hair and Sun's fan who's always miserable farting and belching that's he wins in the front
This is bad for us. You know what? I'm gonna give minus points towards Jenkins
And I'm gonna give the point to Kersi. You're not getting real. That's right. That this guy's good
Yeah, it wasn't my choice Jenkins production said they were like I even put you in the in the group
I appreciate that very much
I like the guy that didn't panda. I like the guy that just went straight. Whatever Queen. I
We've got there routine
Alrighty next one
This is the first thing you would buy if you won a willack. Yes, if you suddenly go up
Let's just say you got the entire mill if you just got a mill in your pocket. What would you buy?
What would you get?
Draw it and be quick. You only have 20 seconds this time. That's been 10 seconds
explaining the concept
I'm very impressed that you two haven't dropped your envelopes yet
Very impressed indeed, but I could all change at the final hurdle
All right, five seconds remaining
three two
One all right, let me see those drawings
All right, so Jenkins you'll buy a cat. Why don't you buy a cat without a million dollars?
Just not something that I wanted to buy and
That was the first thing that came to my head
Okay, and you buy an Umbreon Pokemon card. This is the Umbreon Gold Star most expensive Umbreon card in the world
I buy it straight away much as it the Japanese one is like 500k
Okay, okay. Jesus. All right. I would buy that. I will buy that you make me sick
You buy a house with a sat this qualify this guy house and it's a wall around the house
And no one could see me and I four sons fan who's belching and
I
Call back no he has to be my gardener. You're not allowed to do callbacks. All right
I can't decide. I'm gonna let production decide where who gets a point on this one production. What we saying
And they've said Jenkins all right, I mean that's a nice wasn't a burglar cat. That's a nice cat
I want to go cat first to see if I can keep it alive. I think with a million dollars
You'd be able to that's what I'm saying
It's a five a million dollars and you need people to help me keep it alive
All right. We're down to the final question guys and just to recap the points are five points Richard Lewis three points for Jenkins
A minus one point for Kezzy very good
We're gonna double the points in this round just to make it more exciting
So if you get this right you double your points score, which means technically
Double minus one is minus two so you stand only to lose it, but let's get into it
Finally create the most beautiful artwork that you think that I would find a beautiful you me
What would I find the most? Can I panda thing? Yes, you're finally encouraged to panda.
15 seconds, what the fuck? Yeah, you gotta be quick.
Um...
Strangely, it's not that interesting to watch you...
Oh no, this looks like I'm drawing boobs, but I'm not...
I don't even know.
Five, four, three, two, one, let me see it.
Okay.
So you think I would enjoy Ogre Magi farting?
No, no, that's a fire blast.
Okay.
Oh, Jenkins, that is very good.
That is me and my beautiful fiancé and my adorable dog.
Holy shit, that's good.
You said pandering lost point.
No, he said pandering lost point.
I said this one, we could do it.
I said this one, and, uh, Alan.
Kezi, what is it?
I'm giving you multiple choice between a cow or a car.
Dude, this guy's got next level.
Multiple choice.
Yeah, that is really abstract.
That's kind of beautiful in a way.
Um, double points off minus one is minus.
So don't you would have been good at us.
That is, um, I'm off.
Ragically bad.
Um, I'm pretty obvious here to me Jenkins.
I'm going to give you this guy's good for that one.
This guy's good.
Um, we're still only plus two.
Um, and I was in the game, but there we go.
Very nice.
But it still means that Richard Lewis, you win again, Richard.
Do I?
Well, there should be some sort of tie.
It's a tie.
Um, no, I'll just put one extra point.
Yes.
Oh
And it was sons fans. That was a fart you were right
The whole time she has wind all the time. I need to see their envelopes. Oh, we do we do. Yeah
Can you open up envelopes? I am amazed that neither if you broke these Jenkins could you please open your own say?
Well, I don't have anything. Oh, I do you do you do Richard you can open yours
Oh, I'm so old if you can guess mine. I'll give you all my points. You're just right like arena mentioning Raleigh Karina
Oh, I actually didn't do that. That's draw something inappropriate. Wow
Like you called one of us stupid or something, but maybe that's low level literally called me a bellend you literally called me a bellend
Yeah, that's that's a
He did do that
Listen, I have to Kate my title
I did call him a bell and if I have more time, I was going to go. All righty guys. Well, I hope you enjoyed that
I'm biased. Keep it up. Everyone. Good job
I'm gonna get in my spot. Yeah
For the grand files, but before that we've got a little content piece with three of your favorite players
That's right. It's skitter Amar and ATF in a hotel room with me. Let's get whoa
Oh, jeepers.
We like that.
Let's see it.
Let's watch.
Welcome to Flying the Nest.
Team Falcons were an institution in Dota 2.
They're around for only three years,
but didn't make a single roster change in that time.
And they won 10 major titles, including the International
2025.
Now their players have gone their separate ways.
And I'm here for a bit of a catch-up
and a bit of discussion about their new teams.
of a snaking, skitter and ATF and we are going to have a conversation and a bit of a game as well.
Guys, what we're going to be doing is we're going to be going through each of the roles,
position one, two, three, four, five, and we are going to be deciding who the best player is
from your three teams from each of those roles. We're going to end each discussion in a vote.
We're going to find out who the best five players are. So, you know,
straight off the bat, skitter, how confident are you in your teammates?
It's pretty good. I feel like it would be easy to convince the boys.
Excellent, excellent.
Definitely, definitely.
Amar, what do you think? All best in slot?
Anti-Mindex is not hard to choose from.
There you go, there you go. That's confidence I like to see.
Alright, I'm going to start things off with one that none of you are part of.
We're going to go to the middle lane first.
So let's start with Skisik.
Can you make a convincing argument for your mid laner?
I think, obviously, there's only one person
with a ring and a mid laner out of these three teams.
You know, the miracle boy who won the DAC championship
by landslide defeats everyone mid and mid laner
still after all these years.
I feel like it's not hard to know who the best mid
laner out of these three teams are.
All right, Skidigo, anything to say to that?
Okay, but, you know, he's still hungry right now.
Like, my mid laner, he's like here to stand in,
and he's putting on a great show, you know?
Yeah, he's putting on a great show for another few days, you know?
I mean, you literally played against him,
the guy's got excited.
For a few more days, for a few more days, don't worry, okay.
Amar, tell me about Chere Jr.
He's a bit more quiet than the rest, I would say.
Well, the thing is, they played with Malrin,
so now they're playing, I'm playing with the guy
who can play like Malrin and like ZM.
So I imagine he has two in one.
But the thing is, I don't know what they're trying to convince there.
They both know my nickname and I'm as better.
Okay, okay, alright.
Any counter-arguments there from anyone?
No, I'm ready to vote.
You're ready to vote?
Alright, well, we will start with you, Mr. Snake King, so...
Who are you voting for?
You cannot vote for your own team.
I mean, I'll vote for a Trajunior then.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
But you literally got destroyed by my guy.
Bro, change your mind. Come on.
It's too late for that, brother. We're voting already.
The vote has been cast. Skidda, which way are you going?
I mean, it's hard, but who knows?
Who knows? Because it's too narrow.
I mean, I guess let's go with Shiro.
You go with Shiro, Junior as well?
All right, well, I mean, your vote isn't necessary,
but so if you did have to...
Shiro, man, obviously.
Of course. Of course.
I think we saw that one coming.
I thought you'd speak on that before.
All right, well, there is a mid-laner logged in.
we have indeed got Chiro Jr. in the mid. Let's now take it, let's take it to the support.
Let's go to position five. Let's start with the new Mr. Skitter. Tell me, why is it position
five?
I mean, Kallor is like a, you know, the guy is like a beast, high MMR. He's like proved
last season that he's, you know, up and coming, like, you know, I don't know, the
best guy. He's like, delaying with him is great. And he's like mechanically very
gifted. You guys know. I mean, Yamar will know when he lands against him. I
You're letting us in last season, right?
Happy with him too, yeah, so...
I don't think I need to do much convincing.
All right, all right, well, yeah.
You played with him, what was his flaws, potentially?
Terrarium? Yeah.
Well, it's different, three years than now.
He's like, not the same person from what I see, but...
He's good. He's good.
All right, tell me about your opposition, five.
I'm a opposition, five, he can play everything, somehow.
I don't even know, I just enter, he can play everything.
I'm like, Nenik, what do you need from bosswap?
He can, sorry, not putting the name, fuck them.
What's Maldi like as a person?
No, no, I've been in the team for five days.
You think I know what they are like as a person?
You're a very social person, am I?
How can you not know?
I'm still forgetting about it.
Still?
Yeah, I'm not speaking humbly.
I still think I have sneaking in team.
Some people keep making I see that's kind of sweet in a way
Smaking what do you think? I mean, I think the results you speak for yourself
You know just look at the number of trophies, you know at that that the position five on my team has
I think you know you just need to look at that and that's all that speaks for itself, you know
All right. Are you ready to start the voting any more things to be said?
No, no, no, all right. Let's get up. Let's start with you. So I have to be honest
I'm a little biased because I won a lot of things with snaking, so I'm gonna go with him.
You're gonna snaking? Okay, alright, fair enough.
Emma, you're going with snaking as well, or you're going for your older teammate, your first teammate, Kaori?
How can you not vote for the two times TI?
Come on, it's not fun. Why did you vote for me?
Alright, well, that's it. I mean, if you had to vote snaking, which way would you have gone?
I'll vote for Malady. I think he's definitely a...
In a better position than Kairori right now.
Alright, alright, fair enough. Maldi's been pretty damn good, but you are in position 5 for this, so let's move on.
Where should we go next? Let's do the off lane and start with you, Amar.
Why are you the best off laner out of the three?
Whatever, it's WS, but it's me, and that is the way our comments are.
I mean, I've won, I've won them seven tournaments, TI, I think it should be obvious, I need to
convince more.
Alright, that's it, that's it, alright.
Saking.
I mean, you might have won more, but you know, it's like the skitter comment, or you're
still hungry, you know, but the Vi hasn't won yet, so he's like, he's still grinding
and he's like doing as hard as he can to go for that W.
That's it, alright. Okay, he said WS has budged him, but have you seen the stats? Every game
he played different heroes this tournament. Yeah, so it's like, I don't know, the guy
is like, I get shocked. It's like the guy just pulls us on here or is like, he, you
know, just destroys on it, doesn't say much. And I feel like, you know, everyone
One kind of wants to play with him.
Yeah.
And not to bring up anything here, but who's got more MMR at the moment?
WS or MMR?
The guy is playing on smooth.
Wait, how does he not bring in?
He's playing on smooth.
What's my friend talking about?
Out of his thoughts.
Yeah, okay.
I mean, he's animating, you know.
Yeah, you saw my Q-time for five hours, I can't find the game.
it. No my problem. Just bring it up, just bring it up. Alright. The numbers for themselves.
Amar, who are you voting for between WS and Davai? Davai. Davai straight up? Any reasoning
there? Any reasoning? Well, no I'm totally just hypocritical. You just say hypocritical.
Okay, alright, alright, the snaking, which way are you going?
I'm going for the youngest, highest MMR off-laner on these three teams right now.
Alright, a vote in for WS, let's go.
Skitter, who are you choosing? You've got the deciding vote.
Alright, I have to go with the wife.
I just knew somehow my team is not going to choose me.
I knew this guy would end up snaking, and Skitter was not going to choose me.
I just knew. It's always like this.
Every teammate I play with, when I'm like destroying their hero, I say their name and their hero.
But when they play my hero, it's not when they destroy, it's when they fuck up, they say it's me.
Uh-huh, uh-huh. You're the martyr?
Yes.
Yes, I'm the martyr. Poor guy.
Alright, well, that's gonna mean that Divy is our position three in this team.
Let's go!
Let's continue going, let's get on to it, that's all.
You're going to choose my people as well now.
Yeah, we need some of the rubber boys in there.
Well, let's go.
Let's go, position four, I believe we'll go back to you, Snake King.
So, advertiser position four.
I mean, I think Theo has been some of the hardest working person I know.
He's been grinding a lot, and he watches a lot of replays, and he lesson very well.
He's a very good soldier.
I think he's improving a lot with all the new concepts we've been teaching him.
So I think he's definitely going to be one of the best.
Got to be one of the best, all right.
Strong argument, skitter.
Well, okay, you might have a soldier, but I have a winner.
I have a guy who won TI twice, so I don't think I need to speak to him.
You're not the only one who has won TI on a post-war on this team.
No, but not twice.
True, true.
I think people have been, you know, the TI argument is starting to lose its momentum here.
What else can you say about Miro?
I mean, last season, he got second place a bunch of times, so it's not like, you
know, we can only talk about the two times TI winner.
He's still basically on top of the game after many years, so I don't think there's much competition.
Alright, okay, well, do you have anything to say about that, Amar?
I'm sorry, but the one TI with this guy, it's really interesting.
I was going to say that he got in the second TI, the first one, at least.
Yeah, that's enough for me.
That's enough for you. You don't even feel like you need to make an argument for Mr. Saxon.
Nope.
Alright, well, let's start the voting.
Uh, who's selling on this time?
Ice, I think it's me.
Yeah, it is indeed.
I will choose Soxa.
Gonna elaborate on that or...
No need.
If he didn't explain, why do I need to explain?
Fair enough, fair enough, Skidda.
Yeah, I mean, you know, the winning first day I was with him was like crazy, so...
I have to go to Soxa.
It's like something I can never forget.
Alright, divide. Who are you...
I don't know.
I don't know, I'm just gonna lie.
Come on, who are you choosing?
I want to go to the new teammates somehow first.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, obviously, since...
I'm not sullapizing you.
If I cannot choose sex, I'm going to choose the two times.
Oh, right.
There you go.
We're nearer.
All right.
So, yeah, it's going to be Mr. Saksa, the opposition four, which leads us one final
role.
We're starting with a carry.
We're starting with you, Skitter.
That's how you make your case.
I mean, come on.
I mean, good sports today.
I don't think I need to do a lot of convincing.
Whoa, whoa. Like, bro, we won't so much together.
If you don't choose me, I'll be offended.
We'll never be friends.
Yeah, I guess I was not so sure.
So you need to, so you know,
like choose your words wisely, right?
And for tomorrow, you know, it's the same, you know?
We did not win two TAs together, but...
But you do not choose me.
Ha ha ha ha!
I mean, not you there.
I mean, the snaking was very convincing with the vice,
so I don't know, so I'm sorry.
I had no choice.
I'm also convinced.
Ha ha ha ha!
All right.
Mr. Amar, let me hear you talk about Watson.
I mean, Watson was incredible, actually very good.
I played with him even before.
So like, no doubt he's very good.
He's also like, even during drafts,
we're saying like, maybe we can pick Skeeter.
So like, he can also play Skeeter.
And he also can play like, hard carries.
So we can do both.
So, very incredible performance.
Okay, all right.
The X factor here, Mr. Witt's the young SAA carry.
Like I said, you know, Witt's, he's literally the, like the best talent we've seen in the
recent years.
So I think in terms of the South American region, he's the star and I think he's got
a lot of potential and I think he's literally going to, you know, maybe even be greater
some of the carries sitting here right now.
There's only one carry sitting here at the moment.
I mean there's two carries sitting here let's be honest. Fair point, fair point.
All right voting's gonna start with you Mr. Schitzer which way are you going?
I mean I gotta go with Watson because he has been like on top of the leaderboard
so long and I don't think he got to shine in competitive scene a lot but I
think with this team he'll get to you know show himself. All right okay.
Amar, which carry are you going for? Whitz? I mean... Or Schitzer?
Which is an upcoming pair but how can I not choose the two times we do so?
You want to get twice on the same here
So I guess we got to pick a pity Aurora player you're not dead in the day, you know I guess so I guess it's just how it goes
You gotta have we gotta have room for one. You know gotta be nice
Thank you guys. Well, it's time. Is that what you're going for then? Yes
Oh, I'll make sure you know you gotta be inclusive. You know, you gotta you gotta pick one Aurora player
Just to be clear, you two are in this team and Amara is not.
What? Oh yeah, we have skitters.
I knew it, I knew it. Two in my team, my team is generally.
I just knew it, my team is not true.
That's hilarious. Alright, what a wonderful team we have.
So, we had skitter in the safe lane, our mid laner is going to be Chirrut Jr.,
Junior our off-laner is going to be a divide and we're going to have the position for being mr. Saxon
And then finally opposite provide is snaking
That's a good question we can we can do a quick one for the coach. Who do you want to be the coach?
Yeah, let's go straight to the meeting. Yeah, actually we have tpi
We have
Mobile ah
We have to go mobile
Yes, why were we wearing wearing why are you convincing?
for his coach. I would choose my coach because I know my coach even three years ago.
Even if I need to fight for your coach. I mean nobody knows anything about coaches man,
but all these are saying, you need to use the meme coach you know. You see I choose the best name
to fit in there. Just move, it's fun. Only Bulba can lead this team is what I'm saying. Do you
agree Skitter? Sure I will. All right all right coach Bulba then to lead this wonderful
Alright guys, thank you very much for playing Fly at the Nest. I hope you guys enjoyed it and good luck out.
Well, lucky I'm really looking forward to seeing you guys play each other in the playoffs.
I think it's going really to go well.
It's just signing good.
Come on, fuck them, they mute their phone.
And of those three players, only one remains in the competition as it is now time for the grand finals of PGA.
We have a lot here season nine.
We got a best of five coming your way.
We saw Na'vi beating LGD this morning,
and they'll be facing up against Yandex,
and we have a lot of ground to cover
with these two teams going head to head,
and that's why we got the smartest brains
in the business on the couch.
We filled up the couch real good,
so we got three people sitting next to me.
We got LaCos, Tiga, Kezu, LaCos.
How are you doing here?
I'm doing good.
We just witnessed a very good performance
from Na'vi, and coming into the next one,
I expect nothing less.
Nothing less?
Happy to have you here.
Yeah, good, good.
Good to be with you.
Upgrading the panel.
Days, jokes, these jokes.
Well, we'll get them.
Thanks for working with us this time.
I'm just very cozy here in the middle.
Glad to have you.
Thank you very much.
Glad to have you.
You're welcome.
You're doing good, T.
Yeah, no, yeah.
Very, very happy to be here.
It's Narvi again.
Lower bracket.
Whoo!
In a Velaheut as well.
In a lower bracket run.
Often in Velaheut, we don't see the full thing.
So now it's like, oh, Narvi, can you do it?
Yeah, we can take a look at the bracket to see how everybody got here because Yandex has had the easiest road here, Kezu.
Yeah, I guess if you want to say it that way, I think they did, you know, going through the upper bracket.
They played the least games, but at the same time, they also just stormed everyone.
I think even if they went, you know, maybe they dropped a lower bracket, they would have done the same thing.
Every team that they played are like proper teams that you could have easily expected to be in the Grand Finals.
There's no single series there where you're like, oh, it was just that lucky player team.
playoff teams. I know they played the big teams to get here as well. They really did.
Navi only drops two series his entire Valachia and one was against LGD and they
got the revenge this morning and the other was against Jannex and potentially
they'll get their revenge here as well. But it begs the question like how are
lower bracket teams doing in Valachia as the cause? Yeah they're doing better
than expected better than most people would expect because sometimes playing
too many games can definitely you know showcase what you are and like
what strategies you have planned, you don't know which teams you need to prepare for,
you might be playing eight games in a row, so it can be slightly tiring,
but seeing that out of eight Valakia so far, we had five teams winning it out of the lower bracket,
it does seem like they have a little bit of a momentum, they are already ready to go,
and we could maybe see the whole thing happening again here.
Yeah, no fatigue here.
I mean, I hope so, because Navi, you know, I kind of, I believe in them,
and I think also the last time they played Yannix on the upper bracket,
they got rinsed. Like that series was not good at all. So I hope you know that they take that loss,
recalibrate and show something better today. Yeah and they have shown a lot of good stuff
already. I'm sure they'll have stuff prepared for this Grand Finals as well.
But we are focusing our attention first on Yannix, a team that slotted into the Grand Finals
first. There's yesterday with the 2-0 in the upper bracket finals. Yannix has been around
for quite a while. Obviously they changed one of their players but the roster has been
around for sure and in particularly the safe lane. Yeah, they seem to be knowing each other for a
really long time, Sheever. They have been together for 839 days longer than most marriages last now.
Yeah, they have quite a lot of history together. They played together on nine pandas for almost
a full year, gaming gladiators as well. The women right there still slightly above 50%. Maybe
you would expect more at the time, but with the index almost a full year now together as well,
sitting at 60% win rate, these guys are just popping off every single time you watch them play.
They just have that brutal honesty between each other, which allows the partnership to work
because they're not afraid to say their feelings, they're not afraid to talk about it like any good
marriage would have, and because of that I think they are going to have many many more years
together and get to the golden diamond whatever it is years of being together.
Yeah communication is key, it works out for sure and communication of course goes way beyond
just the laning pairings together, but for example Kessler also goes for support pairings.
Yeah because these guys their supports I think they are so good and most of their games they just
shine and you see a lot of you like their hero combinations you know their willow has a loss
and they're sort of willow with the winter wyvern, winter wyvern with the Kess, witch doctor,
IO, the dazzle natures prophet so not only are they really good as individuals on the heroes
but it's also with their combos and then it's like maybe there's a couple heroes you
could think about if you're navi but also heroes like silencer inspector I don't know if you
I don't know if you can even play that against Amar in the lane, I think we'll just beat the hell out of you.
But maybe Bru, maybe Lycan, maybe you can work in Anagosirin, something like that, because these guys, I think you need to do something about the support duo.
But if you are to try and beat them, maybe not through calls, but also just make sure your supports are ready to fight the opponent.
Like don't have just like two FK supports that can't make moves on the map, like be ready to make these little aggressions towards the ruins, the mid fight.
Like we saw teams footer for Yandex, specifically LGD yesterday, where they'd rotate at 15 and just all die.
Like you cannot mess up your rotations against this team.
No, these moments in the game, the Yandex has one wrong move and it's all over and we
have seen a lot of one sided games in favor of Yandex, some of the fastest games of this
Velakia.
Actually, the fastest games of this Velakia have been Yandex winning.
And maybe that also has to do with the little leadership coming in from Yandex.
I'm talking about Saxa, he has been around with the team for quite a while and the
team has definitely propelled since then. Yeah, like whenever you look at a team you always think
about like what legacy that they create. Falcons of course when they were conceived they instantly
won everything. Yandex when they added Saksa to the roster within 2025 to present they got three
first places, two second places they've been part five grand finals across that time period
they've been part 41% or 42% of all grand finals that they've attended like conceptually that is
insane. It's crazy. Yes. When you think about the last season as well it's like it was
100,000 in the Andex. They're the big three teams. Of course, Spirit winning TI, but Andex they have
like the highest volume of Grand Finals. They are insane and it is inevitable that they are going
to just win so many events this year. It is scary to think what they can do this season.
Yeah, and he got upgraded with his lane partner. Yep, absolutely. I mean, I just remember when
he first joined the team as a stand-in during one of the Fissure Playgrounds. As well, this
is like the crowd was cheering his name and you could already feel that the team is just
playing so much better everything clicked together and you said the upgraded partner
a lot of the times people talked about Soxa and 33 being one of the nastiest lanes you can
lane against because they're so good at every single detail and now you have a mar added to the
mix as well which is kind of on the same level it's just so difficult playing against these
two guys they because they always have some kind of like tricks up their sleeves yeah and
potentially some of those tricks Kazoo should be highlighted yeah because these guys they're
they're really good. I looked at some of their game panels and I was like,
maybe there's one thing to show, but these guys do so many good things that I want to even show
two different things. So this is their mid game. It's 13 minutes, they're ahead,
and it's a lot like clockwork. When a team is playing really well, so they get a kill bottom,
you see what's up top, he's pressuring, everyone is getting kind of ready for the next move.
Saxa is leaching his level six in the mid lane right now, and it's important for them to
understand too. They kind of own the whole map. So Watson isn't overplaying into the
screw master in the tower, he plays backwards. In the meantime, Saxa is farming mid,
They allow, you know, you have Amar, he's pushing in bottom, TP Smith, Saks are just at level 6,
they immediately smoke top, because right now they're not playing aggressive top, because they're
reading this move. Aurora actually smoking on them, Watson has super nice positioning,
because he's not playing aggressively into them, he's respecting that they can be a move,
and everyone is just coming from really nice angles. Malady keeps it from bottom to the
top area, and it's always this type of positioning where I think their supports
shine in most of their clips, right? Malady comes from above, you get a
three-man curse into a really nice Terrarium, and if you also look how they're all
executing the team fighting. No one is really overplaying. They're all really
nicely play on high range. There's no over committing going on. And once you can go
for the next step, you do it. And at the same time in these clips too, there's like
small little individual players like you know, Amar with his Max, our Sprint,
Dodgers, the LSA. So in mid game, incredibly good. But even in the early
game, you cannot make small mistakes against this type of team. So they
get scanned, they know that they're here. And I think the only four goals
for a pretty big mistake here. And what I want to highlight is that you know,
They're setting it up. They place a nice ward and because they place this ward usually you cannot keep you like this if you're the post for
This is way too like preemptive from the old accord
But because they place this war by socks that they actually spot him here on the minima so they know okay
This would link us in the bottom area. Let's not attack. Let's wait a bit
If you look at the clock now, it's 10 10 seconds before the active room
So they anticipate that they're going for the rune
They have waited all this time to now attack with because they know there's maximum two heroes here only snaking can have a
the TP. The Olyquor is kind of stuck and in the meantime they get a couple of kills. Ember is mid lane, he's chilling, he gets the illusion rune, there's no like big pressure on him and because of all these small moments, the Olyquor now still he's down bottom, has no TP available, they get the inverse rune, they make nice moves, so this is how and this is the small things they do to get multiple kills and a double wisdom shrine.
to be on the ball. Yeah, that was a nice solo cast, Kev's, I gotta say. Glad you like it.
What you just described in those clips is vision, right? In the first clips, they're pushing
out the waves. As soon as they push the waves, they reset hideoff map, because they all hide
off map. There is no information to be given other than the creeps are hitting the tower
of your own side. So now it's like, where are they? And then in the second clip, they
have the wall to see the TP. So it's like vision, understanding the creep waves, pushing
out the waves gives you so much vision. It's so important. And that's what LGD was
lacking against the side of Yandex. So for Navi, make sure you have the waves
pushed out and then you might have a chance to survive these sweeping map plays that Yandex always do.
Yeah and on the other side in this all these little mannerisms from Yandex they come from a
lot of experience with the players and of course a lot of experience that they have together as well
Navi has been together for quite some time so they have had some time to to get those mannerisms
in for themselves. Yeah I had a little look back for when Navi, do you know when they first
qualified to the first DPC this is where it's tracked from and of course back then it was
with a different mid laner, but that's the joy of this team. It started with pretty much days on
the roster and all these guys bar Niku through the time, days shifted away, Zayac joined, Niku of
course joined as well. There's little micro changes, but 1250 days of Navi Dota, 809 on Navi
Junior, 441 on Navi once they got promoted. They haven't won a tier one tournament, they played
at 13. They haven't won a tier two tournament, they played at two. They played at 38 qualifiers,
like they've grinded for so long. They have been together for so long and to finally now
being another grand finals again they had a chance last year or last season with you know Blast slam they
couldn't do it now they're back again it really has proved that you know hard work sticking together
trusting each other it can pay off. It does pay off and also this is the team that believes in their
own identity when it comes down to players they only replace the one player as you said but also
a team that believes in their ideas so far in Valakia and it's been working out I think they
they won 7 out of their last 8 games that they played.
It seems like something switched after the group stage
because they were not doing too hot,
as they tend to do in most of the tournaments that they play.
In the end, they did the qualify for the playoffs
and now we are seeing an upgraded version of Na'Vi.
Yeah, potentially a part of that is the evolution,
maybe for them, of understanding what they're really good at,
understanding maybe how they can get an edge in the draft.
And I want to focus on that a little bit, Kazoo,
because I feel like in this series,
There is a couple of heroes that Yandex, I mean they might let them through to try it, it's a best of five people beast, but the Kezu?
The Kezu? That's it, that's it.
I was going to say the Kez, the Invoker, the Witch Doctor, these are heroes that Navi has played to such a high degree that they must be respected.
You definitely have to respect them, I don't need to ban them or have an idea, I think also the God of Juice TV is very high up the list or even the PMA Brewmaster.
So I'm sure that they have their ideas, but I'm not sure if you want to give the cares to Niko
I think that's the one guy I would take out
I am actually a little afraid of this first game of the grand finals because in every win that Navi's had
The interviews have always kind of led to we out drafted our opponent
It felt so easy to play because we out drafted and we loved our prep against the team like Yandex
You're not going to always out draft them
You're not always gonna out prep them like Yandex
They have all these little tools in that in their kind of playbook to be able to out draft anyone that they go against
So something that Navi has leaned on, just really stable drafts, that isn't going to be the case.
You are going to need to play with a weaker draft sometimes, to outplay Yandex, because that's how good they are.
I was looking at the drafts and then 95% of the games that they played pretty much, the opponents immediately banned out Kez.
It's not even like, you know, banning it 30, it's just a statement, we're going to ban it out first.
Get it out of the system in a couple of games, so second, you know, showing, ah, maybe there's going to be a chance to give them a little bit of a phone, but not really.
No, it is of course, Niko playing it very well. Added to that, it's a flex pick because Niko plays it well, but I'm sure Gota Juice is pretty good on that as well.
We'll see if Yandex does the same thing here, because as said, a best of five is different. If you want to try anything out, if you want to, you know, see if you can beat it, this is the time to let everything... No.
It's literally business. It's never mind. Maybe no cares, but maybe we get one game.
Game sorry of a mark trying to win on month once. Yeah, so far yandex only dropped two
games this entire tournament and one of them was on the very first day they played against
miles and it was with the Mars for our mark. Yeah, it didn't look great like this year.
It just needs more buffs, needs different innate ability
because this is just not working out, Chief.
It's not it.
Also, one thing to notice is that Yandex,
they have been playing a lot of Heals.
Every single game, they have one or two Healers
coming out in from position five with Wyvern,
which Dr. even Dazzle,
just securing the lane for their safe lane
and then having the flex potential
between Tera Junior and Watson playing the IO.
On top of that, Amar also plays,
Let's call them some of the healing heroes playing that
Haskar, playing a bit of a Legion Commander,
Necrophos as well.
So I've got to be aware of that.
And one of the reasons why they're doing so hot
that closing out the games quickly
is they're not playing with the longer cooldowns.
A lot of heals and pretty much just go, go, go.
Yeah.
I think that's a pretty cool job of their bands,
right, taking up really good calls
that you want to draft around.
The Necro and the Timbersoul,
we've seen it in so many of Yandex's drafts.
And then they kind of push like,
here's the Willow if you wanted to go for that.
and Yandex respecting the Witch Doctor immensely, because of Axis to Willow, hold on, we're against Narvi, we want to take that ourselves,
but I think Malady and Riddies, they are the two best Witch Doctor players in this tournament, and it will pretty much be a grand finals of probably not banning it,
but whoever gets Axis to it first will just auto take it.
Yeah, I mean they had the first picket right, it's Malady, he has Maladdiction, it does type...
I was waiting at the...
Back to you, Kezu.
Now back to me, sorry, Sivir, this is not going back to you yet.
Like, for me, if I'm thinking of Navi, see why?
He's been cooking with the drafts.
And you know what Yandex are gonna go for.
You know, like I just mentioned, it's the Winter Wyverns,
the Dark Willows, the Witch Doctor here as well,
because I do wanna see where they overall take it.
And I like this a lot.
This has been one of the hero,
heroes overall that I've been missing,
first of all, against Witch Doctor,
and second of all, against Yandex.
There's, you need to do something
about the supports and Lycan is a good start.
Now, one of the times that Yandex played
against the Lycan, it was picked because Yandex picked the IO and maybe this Lycan is picked
up to avoid going up against an IO, but Chara Junior plays in the mid lane too, so is it
enough to sway away from the IO? Because for Yandex, this is fine, they beat it before.
Now I think the IO is starting to consider for sure, on Naby's ban, I think it just
simplifies Yandex a lot, I think Lycan really hates playing against lineups that
can group together and not die to his ultimate, of course you do have some early
tempo of tower taken and playing through him, but it's like inevitable tankiness that IO brings
that you do need to respect. Yeah, the ball is too strong once they group up together, it's
the sustain. A lot of times if you see heroes that Amar is playing, these are very strong heroes
that the supports can hug and be like, you know what, we don't care too much about this like,
and we're going to be able to control you, we're going to be able to out sustain the
the damage you're going to be dealing so I still do agree with UT that this IO it needs
to go.
But it's also like if the iron are banned then it's like in Watson's Terrorblade on 18
to close the second phase is a really high value pick as well.
Of course Navi are going to be aware of that it's like it is kind of a no brainer it's
like the big anti-like and hero.
Pretty much putting Navi on a clock is what Yandex will look towards they'll do that
through strong lanes, eventual outscaling and then just making sure they have these
good map movements that we already saw through the clips earlier.
Yeah, and I think this is one of the problems too, when your second pick like this,
you can obviously, you only have one ban in this stage if you're Navi.
And let's say, you know, there's Ember in the pool.
I think we've seen now throughout the day is that a Sark ban is not enough for this hero.
You're going to get Chiro doing your Monkey King later down the line.
So this is one pick that could fall out.
He already mentioned the TB, which on 18 if you don't cover it could be good.
So there are a lot of options.
So Navi here already kind of need to decide which core they're also showing on 16-17
and not have like too much overlap.
The Naga Siren.
That's a good ban.
It's one of those heroes that does very well in the lane against Lycan and also does well
throughout the whole game because you do have waves of resetting his fight.
You do have a bailout for the supports as well.
And now they're going to pick up the Clockwork.
I think they needed something aggressive.
Not sure if I would like to see this Clockwork being played as a position four in this
one.
It depends because Lycan against Witch Doctor, he's not going to be having that
good at the time most of you merely offlaners won't but like conceptually the clock for make sense against which doctor because it gives
spacing right when you press melodicton if you get called and you're now you know half a screen away
you're not even applying that damage on the melodicton maybe it's a survival tool
now with the willow pick that feels like the lane partner and clock will do oh no but
ignore me the clockwork is the first time navi pulls it out in this tournament so maybe
also trying to kind of mess up Youngbex's prep. Yeah, and then they heard that they are on the clock
when it comes down to the tempo, so they had to pick it. That makes sense. I mean, I'm afraid the
fact that it is, yeah, it is just a support, but Saxa on Willow has looked like insane. Obviously,
they've won most of their games, but he's undefeated on this hero, and he seems to always be
right place, right time. And it also, it's the first layer to the Amar, Saxa off lane,
dual lane.
Then the question is, is pango the second layer or will pango go into the hands of shiro jr?
Pretty sure that's a mid.
I would not like to see it in the off lane.
If you give Amar this type of hero, I think you should play the heroes that have the option
to dumpster the lane.
Which pango does not.
I think it's Jandex's way of going, hey, if you want to turn overreact to shiro jr's
pango, Amar will play it if he has to.
Because let's say they go for a husk all right now, it's like, oh, we're going
to win the lane here.
With the likes of the witch, Jandex is of course going to try and find a better
way to sort their situation out so I think if anything they are kind of baiting Navi a
little bit and it's no one Navi to take that bait or not.
You talked about TV on 18, you think there's a chance that Gatt and Juice picks it up early,
tries to steal it considering that he's already juiced up on a couple of games on this
terrible late as well.
100%.
Invoker has been first phase banned so many times against Navi and finally we're going
to see it back in action.
hit some crazy, or maybe I should say lucky, tongue strikes.
Depends who you are.
One of the readiest things to say after you get incredibly outplayed, anyway, I think
what Niku has proved is Invoker is this early game map moving hero that can do so much with
the right heroes and I think clock like an Invoker, all of them explore the map with
ease, they have a couple levels to their name and off they go and that's what you
want to see against Shandex.
The reason why LGD lost in the upper bracket was their inability to make clean moves
in 15.
They make moves in the first 15.
There I ask, is there any flex protection?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Okay.
I do like that they are picking up Lycan.
They are picking up Invoker as well.
Something that Yandex has done before so far in the tournament
is out sustaining opponents with insane amount of heals
and now with Alacrity, with the wolf bite later down the line,
you're never going to be lacking damage.
damage so got the juice he's gonna be able to you know have a carry that's
gonna be clearing through the illusions Sven comes to my mind tiny as well all
these like built-in cleave type of heroes are gonna be very good against PL
this is a sort of spooky PL pick yeah like to kill the tombstone the lock
down that Navi has is quite lackluster you can just double gang of both most
of it at the moment yeah the lane is worse I'd like peel will just free
farm into the Lycan, you sure you might use your tower at the 10 minute catapult wave,
but you're going to have like Yasha and all this stuff by then and feel really good.
So need to find an answer for PL, already mentioned this friend from the cost, but they
need something.
Yeah, and the problem is also, if I'm Navi I could be looking, I think you want Mili
carries first of all, like also you get the Lycan wolf fight later.
They played the Ursa into PL, which I think is very good.
The only problem you have is that this drafting style at the moment is very good
for Yandex.
You have picked a PL that's unanswered.
It needs to be answered by the enemy carry and you have Amar as your offlaner
I think you can put him in his element on literally a last pick Viper if you want because most of the heroes that will do
Well against PL being melee heroes they suck against heroes like Viper, Razor and so on
So I think you already have a bit of a problem and because it's Amar
You also can't just ban Viper Razor because you have to ban a Huskar
Pretty much you want to see the most toxic thing possible for Amar on that 23
Like you want it to have to now deal with the offlane whilst now going well
I can't solve both problems and that is why Yannick I think is very strong in
their drafts throughout this tournament. If they don't just provide one problem to
deal with it's always two three if not four problems that you have to try and
solve and it's one person that has to try and do it and they never can find
the hero. And this one doesn't seem like it can be as fast of a game as
they had when they played against Navi with PL it might not be as easy to
close up the game as early on. So it might give them some time to potentially recover,
depending on how mid goes, what Amar is going to be playing from the off-lane, but it does
give Navi, I would say, another good 5, 10, maybe even 15-minute window to potentially play
for the mid-game, and we've seen that they play really well, they upgraded, they're
not making as many mistakes compared to the group stages, like when they were kind
of throwing already one games.
Yeah, and I do like the point you make. I think also that it has a lot to do,
for me with CY. I think some of the earlier drafts were maybe a bit more on the weir side
and I think towards the last couple days they've really upgraded. They also credited him, you know,
in their interviews they're just like, yeah, he cooked, you know, it was super easy for us to play.
I am a little skeptical at least of the 18PL. I think it's insanely good. Like in terms of that
Navi, I think they kind of picked into it for now. I like their own composition, but it's
really difficult for them to currently play into a, like this entire teamfight of a pango
a role terrorize and peel illusions that are just going rampant I mean they do
remove two of you know some of the lane dominators
I wouldn't mind if you want to like bust out some razor I don't know if there's
something else you should kind of expect Navi to look for I mean Ursa would be
on the top of my list I don't know if you guys see something else that if
Yandex don't go for razor I don't mind Navi themselves potentially taking
Razor because you just beef up so early that you don't care about the supports.
You already have map progression through Elected Invoker and Lichen, but yeah, I'd be okay maybe
with something like I mentioned Tiny. I meant I'm gonna say Faceless Word as well,
potentially could come out. You can like relatively easy break the link and you also have
ways of you build into Battle Fury. You're playing with the Invoker, you have the Sunstrike
combination as well. It might be a little bit on the slower side but it could potentially
work and the GTJ he did play it once before.
Yeah, I think the tempo you mentioned, rather than lack the Roth potentially with that lineup,
that's the scary thing that will be under consideration for Navi.
I think the problem is right now that the most heroes I would want them to go for
are Melee into PL and you will get Dumpstered if you're playing Undying plus Melee carry
into Willow Razor and we have seen that before. I think then even though you have
the game-to-game matchup I don't think you're ever reaching the state of the
game where you have enough network to do that. So maybe they're looking for like
a range carry that wants to build me on here because those are good against Razor too.
It's just difficult right? Like the TA, the gyrocopters, all these like range here
that you also might think about. Razor counter them as well. So it's it is a
very kind of obscure position. I forgot to use to be in but you're
against the maw. You've probably played against razors and vipers so you
you probably should have some type of heroes in the back of your mind but at the moment I'm not
finding a hero that is perfect for lane and pl it's like you you are going to make a compromise
at some point well they are running out of time only 10 seconds about left in their bonus time
not on your screen needs his hero he will get to play a weaver and we have seen weaver banned
Don't believe we've seen it picked yet?
There you go.
Is it good enough?
Okay, I think it's okay for the fact that you have lane survivability
and also you accelerate other objective timing for your team to thrive on.
You can go Roshan, you can go Tormenter, you can take towers.
I'm just intrigued to know, is he going to go for a deso build to kill heroes quickly?
Or is he going to try and go Mjolnir and go like, oh, I can do evolutions?
Because personally, I want to see deso big damage join your team.
Why not both?
I think he needs Mjolnir in this game, I think if you go, well if you go that so you're playing on high tempo
But I think you're gonna put yourself on a timer at least that's how I would see it
I think if you're if you're Navi, I I like to pick out of the options that were good in my opinion
Like PL Razor was hard to play into it's good against the pango
Yeah, you I also don't really see the purpose of picking weaver if you're not gonna build Mjolnir into PL
So I don't think it's easy by any means I do prefer Yandex's draft
But I do think the pivot is good. Well a quick question
And not just for you three on the couch, but also for everybody watching at home on YouTube in this case
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I'm going to go with Yandexna because I'm not sure which one you said I usually like subscribe and share at the same time
That's so good. This guy's good. Yes. We're also going to share some knowledge or actually, you know what?
Excel is going to share some knowledge right now with no man
He sure is she but yes indeed. Mr. Excel
The first question I actually want to ask you is what was your opinion on the series before this one?
Navi versus LGD. I think it was a pretty close series
and I was ready to see both teams win.
So I think one team just made too many mistakes
and other capitalized on it, so yeah.
Great stuff.
All right, well, let's get into this grand finals.
This first draft, you come in strong
with the Phantom Lancer.
The guys on the panel,
they thought it was a really good PL pick.
I did as well.
You know, are you guys happy with this PL for you?
Yeah, I mean, you can call it PL,
like kind of a free PL game.
I don't want to jinx it, but yeah,
they have a fast lineup.
I can for sure push the tempo and trying to don't let people from item
So I think it's gonna be like the game that I try to play fast as trying to hold them
For sure and it what did the weaver pick say to you
You know like it wasn't any of these big counters towards the P1 said the weaver
It does that mean they're trying to take the game in a slightly different direction. Yes, I try to be in fast
We know any cancer I'm are and yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see in here
I think it's a good lane into Razor, but it's a more Razor, you'll see.
And finally, you know, talking about Omar and the rest of the team, of course, what are their confidence levels coming into this, and knowing now that their matchup is Navi, what are they saying before the draft even?
I don't think we were talking about Navi too much. I think we were talking about ourselves, what we want to do, how we want to play, what we want to enjoy this day, you know, it's a final day.
So, yeah, nothing really special to our opponents.
Just enjoy the day with a wholesome answer.
Thank you very much, Mr. XL.
Good luck in this game number one
as we throw it over to our casters,
a SunSpan and Cinder.
Thank you, Nomad.
Indeed, welcome to the Grand Finals.
Best of five here at PGO The Law here,
season nine, Navi versus Yandex.
Two first picks, first Razor pick
of the entire tournament,
first Weaver pick of the entire tournament.
Have they just been holding onto this, Cinder,
or is this just based on what they've been seeing
draft. It is one of those things that can happen when you get to grand finals, but oftentimes it
starts happening in games three, four, or five when the, how to say, the strategy gets deepened,
but they bring out some new stuff in game one. It's really cool to see. I want to say,
overall, the narrative of this tournament, also, even before it even started, was kind of,
I think most people had Yandex as the tournament favorites, so there's kind of been all eyes
on them, and we do come down to this final match now of, can anyone stop them? They
They have not lost a series coming in as the favourites today as well,
but Navi, on the other hand, are a team that have leveled up significantly.
Expectations were decently high after a 3-in-1 Swiss round,
but then they looked a little bit shaky, and they really reigned it in recently.
I feel like they're playing way more stable.
They make fewer critical errors, which was some of our strongest criticism,
was that they just made game-losing mistakes in a lot of good positions.
Haven't really seen that the last couple of days.
I believe they have won eight of their last nine individual games.
So a very strong win rate to come in with, but now it's time for the final boss.
Yep, and that final boss is quite beastly.
Third place TI for Yandex, and now they get Amar as their position three.
We have yet to actually cast them.
Yeah, it's our first game of them this tournament.
So that's nice, we get to check that off the box.
This is a PL game according to the panel for Watson.
Would you agree with that?
I think it's the best PL pick of the entire tournament.
entire tournament. Yeah, I think we've seen it six times. I think it's an even
better PL pick than it was in the last series when it was picked as the very
last pick. That's my biggest worry here for Navi is that the way I see it, you
are on a timer. And I really like what the panel was talking about when they
were theory-crafting what carries to pick, because it was really hard to find
a carry that fares well against PL, but then still also doesn't get
bodied by Razor, which goes to show why I was such a good pick from Amar.
And I genuinely could not think of a better pick than the one now we found,
so props to CY and the boys for finding this weaver.
But it does say to me, either you win this game at like 30 to 40 minutes,
or you're probably just going to get PL'd in the end.
Razor is also a monstrous late-gamer who's seen that from Amar countless times.
And the PL, to summarize why the hero is so good here,
he knows his matchup.
He knew because of the first pick, Lycan.
That is generally considered a very easy lane for PL.
Lycan doesn't really pressure anyone.
As Guthard used Wulgath's first blood, so when I start onto Ammar with the Weaver,
PL fares well against Lycan and Lycan because it's free.
Later in the game, when Lycan and PL both get items,
you have very long charge points with Phantom Rush.
You can keep staying on top of him, spawning illusions and killing him.
He never overpowers you.
You have two dispells against Invoker combos because you're going to buy Mantle
and you have Double Ganger, so he struggles to combo you.
You kill Tombstone almost instantly with all your illusions and Clockwork can't contain you.
It's like genuinely they have nothing.
I can't feel literally nothing.
They look at the, believe it's a Sunstrike setup.
Not mistaken. Actually, no they didn't even need it.
The Sunstrike came in late.
Just a decay, enough damage.
So a good start down in the bot lane, but punishment coming the other way
and a Tombstone to be farmed up for a bar.
That's a lot of gold, so so much for that first blood.
Got the juice getting it is obviously great news for Navi
Another here. I want to talk about briefly as the witch doctor
So this here kind of came out of nowhere Navi's been picking the crap out of it with Riddies and now it's a denied pick for
Yandex, you know, I think you hate this here
These two teams have a combined win loss of this year of seven and one
Malady's three and oh, and I believe Riddies is four and one if I'm not mistaken
I
Personally do not consider this hero a first pick, but I mean the two finalist teams are winning with first pick which doctor
So what can you really say right? You're wrong. Yeah, I guess obviously like I did not think going into this term
I think which doctor has definitely improved a lot as a hero, but I would not put him in the same category as some of the other
position fives
But here we are it is the most contested hero between these two teams probably for the rest of the series off
You may instantly gonna have to keep me out, but he will be cast and killed
In the top lane so dying on the TP even worse than just getting killed off
He was pretty close to hell of iron will as well as a first power spike if you want to call it that in lane for the like
Yeah, this is going to be really tough
Clockwork resorting to
Pulling waves here doesn't really have any other plane this top lane is over already
It's four minutes in you're never winning from this position
So what you can choose to which I hope now we are going to do is actually make gate place with weaver
I think this is one of the biggest strengths of that hero is your carry. We saw that shortly after the gates were introduced
We've seen players like the Ratcho and Skeeter
Basement field onto two with the Bramble to follow. That's heavy harassment onto Navi
Amar is kind of taking a little bit of control of this lane on the Razor
There's Watson and Malady gonna try to force days out with the maledict
Back in time. Oh, maybe that's why he's picking it. You're right. His name. That's right
It's probably the OG witch doctor, Cinderant.
Mmm.
Didn't talk about mid lane.
Uh, not too interesting.
I feel like this lane mostly plays itself.
Looks like so far, Chirijunior is getting slightly the better of Niku,
which makes sense.
Pango is quite good at killing Forged Spirits,
uh, and Invoker, Exor.
Generally, just win many lanes, he's gonna get ganked, so...
Yes, Washbuckle with the Maladix!
That's enough!
Malady will get the kill.
That's a really opportune timing.
He's gonna lose a full wave in the tower too.
So now Chira gets level six,
Niku only just cracking five.
After Juice does get hit by that Plasma Field,
getting pursued now, will live.
Oh, there's Tombstone's on top of Soxa.
Yeah, the Tombstone is pretty heavy,
quite the issue.
Soxa gets slowed by the Rocket Flare now,
and once Shikuchi, Plasma Field still clips the Weaver.
Doesn't have to be a big careful.
Soxa pops the Fairy Fire,
but dies nonetheless.
Two very low members,
and the Sun Strike will miss here.
Yeah, I think he could have tipped it out if he wanted on the willow
But there's something to be said about staying there and trying to trade and then if you die you can come back to late
I mean
This is certainly a death he's resigned to and maybe can try to get a kill in the malady in the meantime
Hops the fairy fire to survive for now
Obviously like it did drop. That was a very easy kill the wolves
Continuing on those Watson's gonna have to turn his sights towards the wolves gets one
the other one expires it looks like so now he does survive now let's get back to
Niku because that was one of the stand-up performances that we passed is another
flat to kill from Amar into a static link should be enough you can't give these
kills up yeah it's already a 3k leaf reandes that's genuinely just a head
scratcher you cannot come closest on dying there like that it's not it's
not a thing to give razor a kill of this type it's the one lane that you
had some hope in now Amar is also ahead of the weaver 3k leave minute
The top three CS-ers in the game are on Yandex's side, so far not so good as a swashbuckle
for Chira, Kilsov got the juice, super casual rotation, he has a regen, he can stay there
if he wants to on the pango and give some mid time to Malady that looks like the exact
plan here to maximize impact on the map, which Dr. Sakuna gets a nice experience
and Weaver can't really return to bot lane, doesn't even have level 6, so Pango can just
kill him after any Shikuchi can run him over.
But yeah, you were talking about the Invoker, Niko's had some awesome performances.
This is the worst start Navi have had with this hero by far.
I will say in terms of setup stuns, basically nothing until Clockwork gets hooked.
And that's when he's generally, we saw him by Atos yesterday, which was really
cool to see.
And he played it very well.
He's going Meteor Hammer.
I think you probably have to buy Eto's here.
I don't see it really.
You're fully relying on Clockwork to set up every play or Tornado.
I mean that content piece that Nomad did with them,
they said that the stunts were very important to win games.
There's a rotation from God the Juice, by the way.
It does make his rotation.
They're going to burn a lot of mana from Watson.
If a TV comes in from Mali, it's going to be an easy pick up on a day.
So they do burn the mana of Watson.
That's all they do.
4k lead for Yandex.
Not to be a negative Nancy Shannon, but that is a hopeless rotation, like genuinely.
That was never going to happen, and this is just showing frustration.
Maybe not frustration, but desperation, more like it.
Weaver goes through the gate with zero chance of killing the PL there,
but he has no better play, so he just does it because what else would he do, kind of thing?
Being in that position, minute eight? Not great!
base. On to Saksa. Saksa gets inside of the Cogs, but tomorrow we'll join him with Chira
Jr. as well. This is looking like another easy kill to get a double swashbuckle. He's got
the juice, takes the punishment, and just has to shikuchi away. Yeah, he has to use
a sal immediately. They're getting nothing out of this, and Chira maybe cancels it.
He's hounding him. Oh, my shield crash cancels it as well. Swashbuckle again.
Not enough for a kill, but he's not farming on this Weaver. Back to base you go.
And the panel kind of talked about this Navi lineup,
needed to be the aggressors because late game
they're not going to really match up particularly well.
And 6K lead at nine minutes.
Give me your best guess on the win expectancy here.
85-15.
That's very optimistic.
95-5.
Wow.
At nine minutes.
That is impressive.
Yandex are coming in prepared.
And this, I mean, you know, it's nine minutes.
And fortunately for Navi, this is a best of five,
so you can learn some things.
But the thing that is particularly worrying about this
is that you are the team with a lot of momentum
in terms of you won a lot of games in the lower bracket,
you've really improved yourself.
So this is gonna be the biggest roadblock
they've faced so far.
You go from, man, we're on top of the world,
we're winning every game, we're playing so well,
and now you're hitting a game
where it's like just completely hopeless already.
That's gonna be one to recover from in the,
Okay, let's think about the positives. If you somehow win this game, you're gonna be on top of the world.
That's right. My lottery ticket.
But, um...
Yeah...
Sometimes you just gotta call a spade a spade, you know, and multiple things went wrong this game.
I personally think they're very out-drafted, and I think the lanes have gone probably worse than they could have.
So, the Andex are feeding them at every turn, basically, so far.
Yeah, keep in mind they just got out of a three game series against LGD.
Obviously there was a bit of a break, but as a matter of fact comes into play at all.
These players are young and pumped up. They just want to show what they can do.
Yeah, that's true.
Not much in this game.
See the meteor coming out right on top of the Darth Willow burning up.
It's going to hit the deafening blast.
Now Maher comes in, static like a hand with the eye of the storm.
Viridis, super dead.
Does heal someone's soul river.
They have enough stuns on the side of the index that they can kind of just do whatever they want.
11-2 advantage, Yandex continuing to pound upon Na'Vi.
I was about to say, is this the biggest lead we've seen at 10 minutes this tournament?
But there was another Yandex game that had a similar outcome.
Well, we didn't see it, because we didn't cast that game.
No, Falk and Owen cast that game.
I feel like this is kind of following the same script.
It was where the carry lifestealer had to go and push mid at level 4, and then
Like stuff you can't even believe that you would say in a cast, um...
Now look at this rotation now from Yandex, forcing Gathedjus out, we'll have to TP.
Just barely getting any farm, he's just starting his Deso now.
So in terms of itemization for Yandex, you got Amar.
He's going for the Yules, almost finished with that.
The PL already has the Mantis style, it's gonna be Ag's second item, so no big surprise.
And Pango, Diffusal Online.
And then what do we have for Navi, Cinderella?
You talked about the Meteor Hammer, that's complete.
Yeah.
Kalma Dom.
Yeah.
Still 2k away from the Overlord though.
Weaver has the Orb of Blight for the Deso.
Yeah, very strong.
Which the panel did not want to see, so they would like to see him y'all near, where
he could have had one component for the Maelstrom.
Yeah, what are your thoughts on that?
Because Mjolnir was nerfed a while back against Illusions.
I think it would have still necessary.
I think it's necessary.
But considering how atrocious the early game went,
I kind of like the Deso choice because it's cheaper,
immediate damage and they need some sort of.
They need something faster at this point.
He's got up his level five right now.
Not closing much of a thread is the rolling thunder.
We're trying to find a secondary target because Dave is just so easy to kill.
This Malady will actually get that one with Maledicts.
He has 150 CS on PL, we're at 13, oh my god man, this is...
Lots of dream.
Alright, we can arise on to Niku and Amar with that stat, even Watson joining the
party, Spirit Lance didn't quite connect because he died so fast and now tier one
Tower will go their way. Not much Navi can do.
I said when expectancy changed at all.
99.
Oh, okay.
99 to one.
So if you're a believer out there,
1% chance for Navi.
I gotta say though,
if you wanna start thinking a little bit
about where this went wrong,
I personally don't think against a team like Yandex
that you can trade,
give Witch Doctor win, then take Lycan.
I feel like they're way too good
at exploiting that information
that you give them with that pick.
It's a much weaker laner than the brewmaster who was in the pool and the Navi have been playing a lot
But maybe they just think that witch doctor lane is too bad for brew
But it's been one of their go-to's against a lot of other teams
And he's gonna pop his ult, Ricky's getting really low
Ballity will be a trade. So at this stage of the game Navi will take it
Of course that trade comes with a tombstone, which is almost like another hero kill. And you had to use shape shift
He's not gonna need it
Well true. Might as well use it for our support. Yeah, you're right. I mean for escaping
Okay, well he has a minute and a half to survive without it.
A thousand away from Agnon, Watts is absolutely enormous.
Yeah, when it's a free PL game and you get these two items at this timing, you are going to get six slotted at like 30-35 minutes.
I'm trying to think what what Navi are communicating about like is there is there any plan is there any timing that you're like all right guys we have a
really far behind. I am going to get this item we take one fight. Maybe it's the
Weaver Deso plus Shard that they're trying to wait for that and then hoping
they can get a good fight going because this is not a game that you ever
recover without some sort of you know super high-risk play. Like you need to
take a massive risk, hope the enemy team messes up, you get a good angle, you
get some good opening kills whatever it is. If you're gonna play the way
you have so far this game's over like genuinely 0% chance. So it would be
interesting to see if there's or to hear rather if there was any ideas and if
they don't have any ideas I mean that's just honest right there's some games
you're just all like this it happens to the best of us it does some more than
others so that's right this is why I don't play like him not be with the
smoke they do have hook shot for days and that theoretically can set up a
Sunstrike yeah which I'm not sure if I've seen him hit one yet he's barely cast
the ability I think he hit one on the witch doctor the tombstone maybe when
they when Malady traded his life away for the shapeshift plus one kill yeah
where's that Sunstrike percentage that we've been really loving at this
tournament this is this is good by the way from PMA this is what you're
you're kind of going to have to resort to is playing the enemy side of the map in the jungle.
Just try to get over there and play out of vision because your own half is just occupied
by the index for the rest of the game.
We're going to try to maybe find a move here on T'Chura.
He gets the tornado.
He's here to follow with the hook shot.
He already has his shard though.
He's taking a lot of damage.
He'll have to do some barrier but gets dropped in the ante.
Big kill for Navi.
Do they go for more?
Sox is going to be the next on the list.
on this as Watson now shows up as that agonist Scepter as Niku takes some damage
but Watson is going to back away in respect.
Amar will find himself got the juice on the back line taking tons of damage.
He actually falls.
Thought they'd be happy with their two kills.
Instead they continue to fight with the Caspal Bounce left and right with Maladik as well.
Riddies is next.
And Day's attempting to TP.
Not gonna happen.
Double kill for Watson.
Ends up being a three for two.
And that was a 5v3
Right because you've got the two entry kills and you didn't really use that much on them either
I guess you used hookshot and
two of invoker spells
So that was about as good as that was gonna get I think that was a and that's what I wanted to see from now
You know there was a glimmer of hope there you get two kills
You open some sort of move up
But Yandex unfortunately just way too far ahead to not get a trade out of it
Validate
All the smoke
Poor wolves real sad and the rocket flare gonna miss you wouldn't I and that is the shard ability for the wolves
What's it called is it high-tail or something? Oh, there is 60% it's not bad actually
For one again, I'll cheer if you maybe hook shot, but the short comes out like yeah
It's bounced up looking for the rolling thunder potentially doesn't have time to use it
I can't use too many further, it seems.
KMA kill, Soxa? Alright, another kill.
Yeah, but Watson now, he's gonna find a bigger kill to touch down to PMA.
Isn't that like it for him though?
This Watson's really low, now getting gone by Got the Juice,
so he's not gonna hit. He's gonna be able to trade his life,
which is a huge boon for Navi.
That's very good for them.
Got the Juice gets all the experience from that.
And PMA gets a ton of gold.
That is not the correct recap, by the way, Dota 2.
No brains.
How much of that PL kill worth? 1400 gold? That's a lot for a 2v1.
He was 7-0 at that point.
So Lycan is going to go for AC, and it looks like they're just going to try to build heavily into the physical between AC, Deso, and Alacrity, and hope that they can kill other girls than PL.
And then I suppose deal with him last.
Hey, 3%.
There you go.
There I was about to say they're halfway there not quite, but they're much
Triple their odds there in a much better position than they were a few minutes ago. Nobby
This is 300% better than before. I thought this was gonna be
almost over
Because if they if that mid fight goes wrong
Yeah, it takes Roach and take one more fight the game probably just ends realistically, but now you've bought yourself
sometime
The socks are looking for someone now they're looking for him in the tree line
I get the fire from the dragon looks like he'll fall as Valady is also here apparently
looking for the death or not gonna last too long though so two supports are
dead for Yandex now Mark apparently getting gone on by the dog is just
more kills though good good work from Navi in the last couple minutes like can
be in second in net worth here is unbelievable really wow I mean given
where we were yeah 10 minutes ago I could have never imagined he would get
up here so and it's a good sign for Navi because let's be honest you're
probably still gonna lose this game like yandex needs to drop the ball way
harder than they already have. We're not even close. But if you can make a game like this
interesting with that bad of a start, it does inspire some hope and confidence perhaps in
other games. They're highly unlikely to get a worse first five minutes than this. Like
this was genuinely, or at least first ten, a complete stomping across the entire board.
So, good to see them make things a little bit interesting here so far.
They can do it.
PMA, gonna take the wisdom here, interestingly, maybe like to see this on level 12 in Voker,
but I guess he doesn't want to go over there.
Yeah, that's rough.
Got two level 9 supports as well.
Actually not that far off from the index supports, just the level difference.
I suppose it really is the mid of Voker, just struggling with it.
I'm showing it right now. Working towards the BKB but he's still quite a ways away.
What's the next item for Watson? Scotty, not that far away, but the AC is officially completed
now for the Lycan. See the timing is very fast and this timing is, I think it's a relatively
common build to go the items in this order so it's not because it's misleading because
he skipped something.
How good is Wolfbite on Weaver?
You get a crit?
You're always fast.
Yeah, maybe it's okay.
Probably BKB first out of match.
I'm just thinking if he should really build into himself this game, like try to become
such a big threat that he can kill the supports instead of investing into the Weaver.
Yeah, I mean, nullifier would already be good against the Jules.
You're 5k both ahead of your carry.
That's the off-laner.
This is a really nice get.
Trade for the Torb.
That's right, that's how Tormentor's played now.
One team makes the fatal mistake of going for it, the other gets Roche.
So got the juice with the Aegis now.
Has the Shard and what's being delivered here.
Mr. Dragon Lance, so what do you want to see out of the next then? I
Mean it still feels like this looming PL problem that you're not really solving with your itemization, so
It's kind of crazy to think about Mjolnir after you have deso, but I still am
Just go full glass cannon. I guess yes, I'm a little less divine. I mean Hydra's breath has some merit. I guess
He's curing up butterfly for now.
Amar will find days in the river.
Brady's got filled by Peel in two seconds while trying to see if he has it.
That's going to be two supports in all likelihood.
Trying to watch the ballad.
It is the Weaver.
Got the juice.
Already had to use the time lapse because he only did that much distance away though.
He's just getting run down by Amar and that's life number one already.
That duel's so good.
And I find a connection now.
Antonikou rolling thunder just stun locked and killed off.
He's got the juice, should be fine, but still not a good fight for Navi.
That's a really nice showcase of what Jules can do against Weaver.
Amar catches him after he starts attacking a little bit, and then the time lapse takes
him such a short distance that they can actually get rid of the Aegis.
And now back in firm control, Ariandix.
And Scotty up and running for Watson.
I mean this shard is very good, obviously it's not going to do anything there with the doppelganger, but...
We'll see what Gotha Juice wants to itemize. It's going to be BKB, which you've made in a speech before.
When you're behind, she'll be going DPS, not like it, and try to turn things around.
I'll go Marlin, you're too tired to already get another attack on the Terrarium.
Right, right on top. Depends on what Dan and John got to do.
You can try to Chikuchi away, but Amar finds him anyway.
Just like that, two cores dead and a support, and they're on the doorsteps of your base.
And just the two supports alive and one support and like it, rather.
I'm gonna get the undying pretty damn easily.
And I'm just gonna call it GG.
This game won its grand final in an absolute shellac for Yandex.
Hey, they made it to 25 minutes.
I could have easily seen this game ending between 15 and 20.
I'm sure if they had GG down, it would have taken you, I think, sometimes to take the base.
But genuinely, I don't mind it.
I think calling this game is completely fine.
You came in with some ideas.
You've got countered mega hard.
Your lanes went poorly.
You got outplayed.
You showed some signs of life, but ultimately this game is just completely doomed, so...
Yeah, I mean, Watson did die a single time syndrome on the PL.
He did.
It wasn't a free game.
It was just mostly free.
That death was probably self-inflicted, though, is the thing.
He was just chasing and getting killed in a 2v1, but...
Alright, strong start.
Game one to Yandex, Shiva.
Very strong start for Yandex.
I agree.
This was, uh, quite one-sided.
I do think there's glimmers of hope for Novi, and we'll talk all about it.
I'm here with Tezutigov and Lacoste and to be honest Lacoste for a little while it looked
like this game was going to be 10 minutes shorter.
Yeah, it definitely did.
It was 95% chance to win the game.
I mean it's not something you see every day but you can still see that Navi fought in
the mid game like trying to make some moves, grabbing a couple of kills, going for Roshan
as well, taking the ages off the index but something just didn't click.
I think if we go back to like the drawing board, they had an idea coming into this one and also having invoker with the zero
Sunstrike setup having this first pick like it that can be abused by a lot of heroes in the lane
Just doesn't sit right with against the experienced team like Yandex who can definitely punish this
I think nothing might just be you know
Forgetting about PL now even in the series before game two wits plays the PL
They lose that game in this draft as well. There's suddenly a PL 118 and it is a
Disgusting PL game that all Yannick has to do is like hey Watson when you're online we also win
But draft decide I want to give a little credit to PMA
I think him on the lighting the way that he was like skipping certain way playing on different parts of the map like he maintained
Enough net worth to kind of like give hope to Navi, but it was nothing more than a hope
There was no ankle. Yeah, full fake hope full code
But yeah, I think coming into game 2, Na'Vi, they can't draft in this way when they give a gotcha pick so easily.
And I think the Lycan in the first phase, even though it's really cool against the supports, you have to protect the Lycan and they kind of have to mix both.
Yeah, it's also, I think they've lost to Yannick like this before. In this tournament, they've received like an 18 minute or 20 minute loss to them before as well.
I think what they need to calibrate is stronger lanes and heroes that will also help you if a lane does go wrong.
I know Niko is probably one of the best invokers.
I don't think it's a good fit against this team.
Also, when you look at like double melee supports,
I would like them to maybe calibrate to more ranged supports.
Maybe you can take the Dark Willow yourself.
Maybe you can take the Witch Doctor yourself.
Obviously you can.
You have Riddie.
So this is what I would like them,
you know, to change for the next game.
And for now, treat this as a warm-up.
Don't think about it too much and go next.
Yeah, that's the luxury of best of five.
You learn and you move on and you implement all the lessons
that you've learned in the next game.
On the side of Jannex though, it didn't seem like.
they got much to learn from a game like this. It was smooth sailing all around, I mean near flawless
performance. That being said, the fact that it lasted 10 more minutes, maybe they could.
Unacceptable, yes. How dare they?
Much too ready after one tournament. Yeah, it could have been faster. It seems like they
already understood that the game has been won. There's a very high chance you make a comeback.
They need to mess it up, but totally five times in a row for this game to be even.
And they would still have the upper hand because carry-to-carry matchup is still not in favor
I don't think they had many options left
This was a little bit of an experiment picking this fever into PL it didn't work out
I don't think I want to be seeing this hero up until it receives a sub bus because it just doesn't feel right in the current
Man, I feel so much weaker compared to others. Yeah speaking of comparing and we're gonna do exactly that might be a little bit
Rough, but we are gonna compare the two carries
This is ugly.
What are we doing?
Look, Kost, this is bullying.
Yeah, it really is.
I mean, the way this started, this was one of the fastest
mantas styles that I've kind of ever seen.
I did the 12-minute mark because I believe he got it
at 11 minutes and one second.
So, mantas style is already ready at the time.
He has another component for his agonim scepter.
And on the other side there, you see the massive difference,
first of all, in CS, more than double, also hero damage.
not that high at the time because this is PL we're talking about but he still
managed to get a couple of kills from the lane and then on the other side you
basically have Falcon Blade, Treads and just a casual Blight Stone which is very
difficult to play with. He tried to make a move through the Twin Gate I think
this is the right move to make when you are playing the... If you want to make it?
Yes if you want to make some kind of a move because this is one of the
better heroes in the game to rotate and it didn't... it was not
successful it was not successful there was a moment where people and that
subscribed because you obviously went for Navi at the very start they were
hopeful at some point because Navi made a little bit of a micro comeback they
got themselves in ages and a fight follow-up micro comeback I want to see
that one but this is this could have been negative this was me hyping up
witch doctor you've got the cure it's okay though I'm just saying my boy
which starts to look at him pumping out the hills, he's been attacked by a weaver, he's been
sun-struck by an invoker, man's just waddling around, baiting out the fight, and no, the reason
I want to show this clip is, I think Witch Doctor will obviously be the hero of this Grand Finals.
Whoever has her, it probably will take it. I don't know, teams are going to be banning it out,
and you have the hill, you have Glimmer, eventually you have Voodoo, Switcheroo,
so I'm sorry, Shiva, there was no Na'vi comeback there, but Yandex just making Witch Doctor
Spooky yes, but it looked like they may be because they have an agent
You know they just got this not a little bit not fight not happens, but the fact that they were still able to get an agent
That should be commanded sure
Like using the heroes, but the thing is like PL has a natural transition from like his
Mantre acts like his next big item where it's like 6k dead net worth and they have a very good rush lineup
So yeah, it's good, but they kind of knew that this almost cooked it's so good
Yes, and potentially this will be an easy one to recover from because when team can just say you know
They obviously have credit to see why when it's going really well
It's like while he cooked he did really well easy game to play this one. They can just say over
Yeah, this is where I think like in this grand finals
And you always need balance against shandex because when you look at the picture in PO you see on dying in vocal clock
It's an exceptional PL game like insane absolute freebies, so they take it and he got the MVP
But in future drafts this position will be praising like a timbersaw of a ma or we praising like an invoker of pure junior
Like the fact that all cores on the index can take over a game and be the MVP and win
It means that when you draft against them, you have to just make sure every pick feels like it's on the same line
The like and pick though it kind of went like super what's skewed
So that you're playing a liking game that you can't play one heroes game against Shandex
You just have to have synergy across the board.
Yeah, you want to have maybe even a more open hero at the very start.
But of course a lot is reliant on the draft with that.
Game 2 might be different, should be different for Navi.
That is for sure. Of course everybody that likes the YouTube channel was correct.
Jannex did take Game 1.
Let's find out what's going to happen.
Game 2, after break.
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I'll go and meet him, I think he's getting door or something, otherwise I'm happy to
play sideline.
Play to win lane only.
Win lane, win game.
Win lane, lose game.
All I care.
Okay.
Sounds good to me.
It's a support player, obviously, your choice is zero.
I mean, I'm like, it's like so full random every time,
Lady Gang is like, I don't know, you get it.
Core players, they like it, of course,
they get to buy items and they get to play.
Oops.
It works well for you when Nisha bought
back when Nisha run and died.
I mean, sometimes it works out, yeah,
but more often I don't know.
I don't know, I don't like it.
I guess we have the same opinion.
We are in the other league, kind of.
There are some supports that definitely do a lot of damage,
but there are more often,
you just play some support just to secure your course game.
Sounds like what supports should do.
I'm not sure I agree. I want to defend too.
No. I disagree.
He's very happy to see Walker and Ghost walk every creep with every game by Midyon Hammerbots. Super high skill.
I hope you also try to win against him. He has Satanic, Daedalus, Clevens, Shiva's on the...
This is how he started in.
Very high-selected.
He has Satanic and Daedalus.
Not in general.
Nine.
If there would be a bigger number than nine, it would fit.
Fifteen.
Easiest choice of man.
Why is it 5?
Like right now, yeah, you can say that he's the greatest, but I think, well, I think by
the time Amar is done with his career, he's going to be the greatest.
I like his answer, but the problem is he is right now written his name on the fountain
three times.
So I have to put an honor and respect for him.
So I have to put even more than nine if it's possible.
I mean, I get it, but for me it's like...
It's also 9 right now, but overall it's 5.
This is like a prediction.
Full humble myself is 9.
But I'm fucking...
Good choice.
I think it's somewhere in the middle.
Like, there's definitely some players that have their own unique heroes
and they will dictate things, but...
Sometimes you need to play to what heroes are good in the middle, and I would say put somewhere in the middle, five.
I think it's become less, at least for me personally. I can't just pick my heroes and say I'm meta. It's not working anymore.
Sometimes, but less than before. I have to play three.
Well, I don't even know them, but I'm sure it's zero in zero for sure
We have zero survival skills, maybe malady I could see but the rest of us no no freaking way
I'd probably accept this
I'm ready
Zero
No freaking way, I'm playing Dota on Mars.
I would, no.
I've played Dota long enough to play more pubs
and to live in Mars, that does not sound like my ideal scenario.
That's interesting, because at least Mars is my best hero.
So I'm playing on Mars, Mars.
I mean, for good then it's a 9.
So I can see it.
There is, I'm sure there is some disadvantages.
Like, how I'm gonna breathe.
Collapse might be the greatest offlaner of all time, but by the time Amar is done with
his career, it will be him.
I think that is such a cool quote, Kezu, from Saksa, so much respect between the two.
That's just, first of all, it's, I can believe it, because Amar is insane.
Second of all, if you're Amar, you know that you're really good, but it also feels
great to hear from your new teammate, who he also labeled as Saksa is the best
later I've ever played with yeah it's it's super cool of course he also mentions
Mars as his best hero and even hey cannot make it work I don't think we're gonna
see it this year let's see what we will see this year it's because game two is
happening now we got Navi on the radiant side again and Yandex on the
dire side again with first pick this time around going to Navi and the
witch doctor instant respect by Yandex they first phase it but there's
There's one hero left and that's Lone Druid, a hero that after others received quite a
lot of nerfs over the patches.
He already received his way before, so this hero has not been touched at all, which means
that the hero feels very strong and it does have a very unique way of playing it when
it comes down to lane, when it comes down to transition that into being an assassin
hero once he picks up the Aghanim Scepter Shadowblade later on.
So I like the pivot coming out from Navi already.
You're also going to pay MR, you don't play enigma because that would be the default response for most teams
But he doesn't play the hero, so you need to always band out anyways
But you are looking towards the likes of like what's in getting like a clink and these type of heroes too
So when Bear steps up kill the bear
I don't allow this bear to run freely through the map like you look us was mentioning like have a little bit of
Lockdown have big damage force to resummon and then that's a you know the first step to dealing with the zero
We've seen some teams utilize Viper, like even carry Viper, it was 1W who was using it relatively well against Lone Druid in some of their games.
And it did look pretty good, so maybe that's going to be the hero that Amar is going to be willing to play from the off-lane,
because you needed to solve this problem for a long time, so different teams have different approach how to counter it.
He will play Hascar, I think.
Yeah, Hascar is the other one, yeah.
He's like the type of guy. I think the way he deals with like OP heroes
It's not by like creeps skipping like a 33 would deal with it by like damage controlling
I think he just picks the best laners even if they're not like super good for the game because you get through the lane
Then he goes back into his triangle and you never really interact with him again
So I would like to believe that they will either ban the hero or have a good idea
If the one does come out they're taking away the Watson Prophet because they're scared of just you know
It's collapsing on the lane going for the kill, but it does open up the fact that the Huskar or the Viper will be left free
Maybe even both. I think the only silver lining for Navi is they close the second phase with a response pick
So it would be Yandex kind of
We really want to try and counter this and give some responses to that
Isn't that conversation with these two teams and we talked about it there's the Huskar
So we talked about it a little bit in the first game as well. Is the Ember Spirit Slark
thing just ignored because there's too many other yeah it does seem like they're
way too many counters for ember spirit to be picked up relatively early in the
draft the slarks that we are seeing monkey king the Chara junior wants to
play as well and also gonna throw out the idea of maybe this monkey king
potentially could be played from the off lane this is something that a more
played cuz you know it yeah jingoo does work against laundry to you are
getting all the stacks you are getting the extra bit of a heal and damage
from it. He could bring back the Slark from the Nigma Galaxy days as well.
Oh yeah, the old Slark, here we go. Good old Slarky Malarky.
Anyway, back to you Kezu. Back to me even though I just spoke, that's very good.
Keep it up. No, out of phase, I think. Why are you talking so much, Kezu?
Back to me again, thank you. I mean, I would say if they don't want to go for a core out of
phase, what they could do, both Dazzle and Winter Wyvern, I think are quite good for Yandex.
It's also heroes that first of all they have played it
Maybe I would favor the winter wyverns slightly above the dazzle just because you know cold embrace curse is good Arctic burn as well against the bear
Yeah, ultra good. I could also see IO potentially out of the phase
This is something that they've done against LGD gaming if they want to be running it
Because it does seem like this hero in their hands is a flex so they can run it from the safe lane if it's a good matchup
They can run it mid and also up the tempo again
And this is pretty much the perfect pick how they've been playing so far in Malachi, especially not allowing this long to potentially get online.
So it's going to go for the hero that will free farm into the Lone Druid.
You'll stand your ground, you'll get Helmeteal, you'll get Heart, you'll get so tanky.
And I think the main thing here is Yandex will want to play through the Offlane.
And when you take that 10-minute catapult wave, we are expecting Yandex for me to take that tower.
Force Lone Druid to go back to the jungle.
I think Lone Druid, he wants to have just tranquility early on.
He wants his bear to pressure the offlane a little bit.
He wants his tower to stay alive.
He wants to suddenly get me on here.
Then he goes to jungle, gets an axe, and is like,
surprise, I'm back in the game.
But if he's ever sent to the jungle too early,
Lone Druid can feel like he's a bit of a detriment to his team,
a bit of a hindrance.
So I am expecting Navi to need to respect that
and start picking some supports that are ready to bring
a bit more fight to the early game.
At least to me, it's somewhat of a draft win for them
in their own aspect that you don't you force a mar on a hero that has a harder
time dumb string the lane like center willow is a good lane but they shouldn't
like five oh you are pushy out of the lane so I think all in all you know with
the long route opening and their bands I think now we did like a good adjustment
they definitely did and this is a super strong lane lane that came go toe
to toe when evenly matched against center and dark willow it's also a
hero that like we've seen stampede being such a valuable spell in the game
your core has another life most of the time because of it later on it might be
agonized on top of this but the Bane is one of the better heroes against it with
the nightmare save the nightmare pull that he can you know drag them into the
team fiends grip also very effective at their eyes can be annoying for Bane to
play but also be aware of some other spells in the game and it's gonna be
hoodwink as well so that's gonna be hero for days now we just need to be
careful where this type of draft can run into damage problems quite quickly
Or it's like you might have really cool lanes might have really nice ways to see the the item progression occurring
But like the ability to make moves in the mess. It can be a little like cluster. Yeah, they see that by going for the
IO they want to bring some numbers early on and they're kind of the double healing of went to Wyvern plus IO I
Really mentioned damage being a maybe a problem damage damage over time
It's not like explosive damage other than hood link. It needs to build up and they already banned out Ember spirit
So I'll be looking at potentially like we talked about how they are utilizing these heavy heels coming out
So it's Vyvern with the heel you have IO on top of that
You will need to get spirit vessel and I would I would suggest that days also picks up an early
Orb of frost just to have extra bit of a healing reduction
This is the item that has been buffed as well by two or three percent
But is the IO going safe line or is he going mad?
This is the beauty of the pick in this position because Navi would like to counter pick the Io,
but now they're going to have to find a mid that can counter Io and an offlane sorry
that can counter the Io. But Io is such a kind of generic call where he plays most lanes
that there aren't many like hard counters to the hero. Yeah, and especially not ones that don't
leave you exposed if they switch the Io about. Exactly. Yeah, it's quite a conundrum Navi
finds themselves in. They will go for the brew master, one of PMA's better heroes.
I think it's good for them the only problem is that brew sure like you can go radiant
You can go eggs and I think for a while you have
Okay damage output and you can like you can lift the winter wyverns
So I think it's still the type of draft where you I can I see pretty high execution for Navi here when I look at these heroes
Because brew is not the highest damage dealer. You really need to have great timings. Yeah, you know
We've seen something very cool coming out from Navi in the previous game
that they picked up. He didn't even finish Spirit Vessel, but I feel like they need a
hero that comes online. They need to play through the mid lane because Brewmaster, he's
very slow, Laundruid kind of wants to be left on his own. Maybe there's going to be some
kind of rotation, but it needs to be this last pick mid that ties this lineup together.
Normally you would look towards the Embers of Voids, the Pangolins.
Earth Spirit as well, still available, builds into Spirit Vessel against all of these
heals but he hasn't played it yet well the keeper of the light you mentioned has
been respected it does make a lot of sense when you think about like the
speed that they want to be playing against until laundry it comes online
and this would also be their way of saying we want to have extra bit of
sustain and we want to kind of try to match the healing coming out from the
index it's difficult I would like the earth for it but he has not played it
yet? No, he only played one spirit and that's Ember, which is banned. It's difficult because
I think ideally you would like to have this material, like you're saying that you like
building an early Vessel and you want to go to the brew lane. Like brewmaster is not just
a casual guy. You want him to be able to either go to his own mid or people come to
his lane, open up the top tier one and then yeah, you're playing into IO, win to
Wyvern. It is obviously great if you can either jump them in the backline or you
have a vessel against their heals. And this is what it's like. At least Voidspirit
of hits the middle ground between us like maybe he's not the most you know
proficient spirit player it's always for it's kind of second to that at least
in regards to the vessel buying I think Sumo kind of reminds everyone hey it's
just still a good hero yeah I have to ask we've seen Navi pull out a couple times
is undying mid even an option here not blind no we're talking about Navi's
pick yeah I don't like it I will prefer not to see it okay we'll prefer the
air spirit to it but there's one more bound of course coming for yandex and they will bound out that
air spirit. And it will be a lina. Okay I think it makes sense in terms of like over damaging into
heals but centaur is traditionally one of the best offlaners into lina first of all you're very
tanky you don't really die yourself you have stampede so everyone gets on top of her and you will
build a blink dagger in the game as well so it does cover some but it's not a free lina game by
any means. I'd like to see... I think I prefer Iomid here, just to have like the
clink for the TA also in the safe lane, where you just get to bring that abundance of damage.
Damage, I'll be okay with something like Sven just have like explosive damage. These heroes that
Lina is afraid to play against, like even tiny when you think about combos, I think
like in both of these games, even though in the previous one Yandex did not have the first
last pick available it felt like they put so much pressure onto the draft just by picking that razor
from the off lane and the way they set up the draft and now they get to pick and choose how
they want to be laning against the Selina they see the full draft so again it does feel like Yandex
has the upper hand. Yeah and I do think they have options I think you guys already mentioned
good heroes like Sven is good I can see some life stealer if you maybe maybe there is some
cool pick where you do put the eye on to the safe lane you find a new mid I don't know
exactly what would be in CJ's wheelhouse, but maybe a secondary jump if that's what you value,
but they can get the secondary jump from either the safe lane or the mid.
Yeah, it could be. I mean, Pango's okay if they want to be running a different mid that can do
okay against Lina because it's also a hero that gives them a good amount of control. It gives
them the backline jump on top of Stampede, so they want to have something that does have that
jump. It's also just nice wave clear. I think we highlighted it so much that Yandex is very
very good at reading the map and I think that wave clear at the moment was a little
bit of heroes must show in lane for a long time at least of pango it does give that
speed of waves gone now we go pivot elsewhere I think for navi at least it is a matter
of respecting the amount of hail and ball that yandex will present themselves and get
that low hundred online because that is going to be the question that can got the
juice get online to rat this map against yandex where they are full drill.
It's not gonna be as bad for Navi as it was in game number one.
Now this time they, I feel like they infinitely upgraded like their draft on Navi because
I agree.
Like really close to it because game one I think that was the Ultra GG like Turbo Stomp from the draft already
with the PL this time around. Yeah, Yandex's draft is good but you have solid lanes on Navi.
I don't think they should get dumpstered on any of their lanes.
You have Night Vision later with like Bane is running around with some lone druid aggs,
Lina flying around depending on Niko's build because he doesn't always go the axe, he also right clicks,
but I like this a lot more. Sure, I would still favor Yandex, but this is a very playable game.
So what is Navi looking to do when Yandex make their traditional 15-minute-ish fight,
where they normally get a big lead? What is Navi looking for?
Utilize the brewmaster and make sure that Niko and the Lina has good positioning,
because when you know that fight's coming, you can't have your Niko randomly die,
you can't have your PMA brewmaster way split. Like, just respect those timings and
Take the fights that you want to take. Don't get dragged into Yandex's Ayo ball game.
Yeah, I agree. I think Niku has definitely stepped up. He needs to have a good game,
and it also needs to be two supports, choosing who they're going to be playing against,
because their bottom lane seems very strong. No kills there in terms of feeding away,
and then making sure that they're still getting stuff done in the mid transition
to blue master lane using the split to getting the kills.
A more diverse draft, a more capable draft. According to my panel for Navi here,
in game two, who is one game down against Yandex in this grand finals. And of course, the man who
put that draft together is CY and he's standing by with Nomad. He's certainly a Shiva. Yeah,
I hate to bring it up. I really do. But that game, number one, pretty rough. Like, is that the
kind of game where you just don't even just just go next? In a way, yeah. And you talk about
draft because in this one, like, it's clearly like out draft in the first game. And it's
super hard. It's actually a peel game. That's where people will own us eventually. And
and they also have some lanes, they lane super well of course also.
It is also harder to draft against this team than like, I would say any other team in the tournament
just because they have so many heroes. And they have so many like styles they can kind of play.
Like Watson is a super hard carry, but he can also play a bit tempo because they lane so well
and Amar can also kind of do a bit whatever. Like he's best on his specific hero stall.
That's like one thing. But yeah, I just think it's okay.
Yeah, and talking about Watson changing the game, Ios is certainly a hero that does that.
We do see Saksa going down on our screens just about, but how does IO change the way that you guys have to play this game?
I mean an IO game is a bit special. You always need to think about relocate
He has some
Absurd like mechanics in terms of damage and healing in some moments
So you need to like understand if you don't always stand into IO usually is a bad idea
Unless you have some very specific things to deal with it
I think we don't have like some big teamfights both against Iro
You know like we just classic counters I would say but of all like it depends a bit also on lanes
So we'll say like, oh, well, we can do what just came out.
All right, well, good luck in this game number two.
Let's see if you can even out this grand finals
with our casters of Suntime and Cinderine.
Thank you, Nomad.
Yeah, they're going to need to level up.
After that first game, you've been in situations
before where you just, the game one does not
count in your head, Cinderine.
You just forget about it, go next.
Draft is better according to everybody.
Do you agree?
Yeah, this is much, much better than what they had
in game number one.
Now, relatively speaking, if it's better than the Dire strategy, I think the fact that there's no clear cut answer to that is a good sign,
because I think in game 1 there was just... I think they could play that game 50 times, and Yandex will win it at least like 47 up.
So that's a pretty bad look out, right? This one is a lot closer for me.
The interesting thing is, obviously you look at Yandex and how they pick their heroes, they pick this IO and you don't know whether it's made or carried because they played on both players, they've played it once each this tournament,
which makes it a little bit tricky for Navi to approach which way they want to aggress onto the Wisp.
But what they have made sure for themselves this time is that all their lanes are in playable condition.
Lena against Pango is playable.
The top lane, Brewmaster, Willow, excuse me,
Brewmaster, Hoodwink, I would think does okay here.
That's the biggest question mark for me is actually,
can they just harass Brewmaster out of lane,
this double ranged with Spirits and Arctic Burn?
We'll see how that goes.
And then finally, bottom,
I mean, you have a loan to a safe lane with Bane.
This has to go well, right?
Surely, this lane is very, very low.
I mean, it's the best carry of the tournament,
so you can get your hands on that.
Some good confidence going away of Navi.
Something to mention as well is Kaio has almost not been picked the entire tournament.
I don't know if Yandex are actually the only team to play it.
This hero was really big at TI and it didn't get nerfed that hard compared to
as we see Malady use the fairy fire and get healed a bit by Watson's tether.
It didn't get nerfed nearly as much as certain other carries that were popular.
It lost 10% on its Spirit Talon on level 15. It went from plus 50s to plus 40.
The rest is the same.
So this genuinely just feels like,
is this just a hero that nobody else plays?
Clip them.
Gonna get the burn,
Shira's down and out,
nice kill for Niku.
And he survives to the tower,
so gets the bottle.
This time they get to play better lanes
and our better laning start, I should say.
And they got three bounty runes
and they got first blood.
He's gonna get both waters here at four minutes as well.
This is,
I think this game is already better at two minutes than it was, I mean last game they
lost with him for a minute, so it's looking competitive and Yandex, they haven't lost many
games this tournament but when they have looked the weakest is when, unsurprisingly, when
the lanes don't go well, so they can't just put their overall pressure on the map
and this time around Navi have set themselves up to potentially replicate one of the losses
that Yandex did have against Aurora, where they kind of got rolled in lanes and never recovered.
This is a dumpstering amiss, not just the kill. Look at the CS. He's literally doubled him on CS,
Renekus, so just an extremely good start for him. We'll see if he can snowball because
Lina has looked a bit underwhelming at the turn, despite the amount of picks, but
when you get up to this good of a start, maybe there's something there.
Yeah, the thing to keep in mind is that Lina has a couple of tricky matchups in this game,
So even with a good lane you still need items to cover those gaps
Both Centaur and Pango are heroes that can get on top of you that you have very minimal counter play against
Centaur is going to buy blink and Blink Host on you
He can stampede your whole team into the lina and overwhelm her and Pango
He's kind of have rolling thunder that you can't really interact with either, but in the lane absolutely
Very one-sided affair here for Niku. He's already threatening Chira again
So just completely free farming. Yeah, this is real bad for Chira
If he doesn't get a farm and a water here in the pango, he's in trouble again
Keeps getting hit by those dragon slaves
That's use all his managers to get a couple extra CS
Well, there's a support on the way. It's a trap. Can he land something looking for the bush?
will not hit it, but the Dragon Slave is there anyway, so another kill in the mid lane, this
one does go to the support, but still, it's more about Chira Jr.'s game just being atrocious.
This is, I have to say, even given that they have a much better lineup than they did in
the last game for Navi, this is not as good of a start as I was expecting, so that's
a very good sign. All three top CS in their team, Lina obviously putting on a clinic
in mid and a nice rotation there from days on the four-minute water and the way
that they played it just played it as a bait effectively top-top now on to
Malady we go for the brace though we'll put it into that play a spear is doing
good amount of damage to PMA now this harassment on to Peru is meaningful you
can see he has to spend a decent chunk of gold on the first healing south he's
gonna have to buy another one probably but in spite of that he's still
staying on par with IO which I think is good enough needs to be careful not
to be the only one that's
not here to push up
, one of our
So stop up in five seconds should be able to claim them again. Yeah, well days is here though
It's off the bushwhack
That's kind of slow down a bar too in the nightmare to follow first crime now for days
And the more I'm gonna come in from the other angle so that'll set up a kill
Oh, it doesn't want to go for because got to use a TP now so ready versus socks essentially
Not a free free second the siege unit as well and malady. We can apply some pressure this
Bear instead is another pushback for the road into the acorn shop, but again the cold embrace for malady doing work
In the meantime Niko kills Chira again. Oh
Geez, he's now level seven Lena against level five pango
2000 net worth difference the entire lead is in one lane right now
That's insane. I mean this guy's had some really strong performances in this tournament
We I think we have yet to cast him really pop off on Lena. This could be a nice kill onto a mar
going towards the south. It's a triple hook stop pull that's been bramble as well. The
root doing a lot of damage to Amar. The one more right click will do it, but he's going
to get cold embrace outside of his reach, so we'll survive. Unfortunately for Yandex,
they do lose his support, but this is still a much better outcome. It's got the juice.
Now he's the one in trouble. Super low Amar.
Oh, guess wrong.
Going to the left. Yeah, wrong 50-50 there. But still, going to get in.
The double edge into the right clicks, Riddies dies again, so that's second death for him.
Yeah, he did not look pleased with that.
That's just a bit of a blunder from the Bane giving up that kill.
And you gotta be careful as Navi to not bleed a couple of kills here and there when you are doing so well.
Oh, that's a big one too though. PMA kills off Watson.
He's gonna get level six from that on Brew.
Very action-packed game so far.
are
So Malady chose to go for the gate plate to bot to try to help Amar recover there, which they did successfully.
He's 2-0 and 2 on the Centaur.
Nothing comes for free here.
And then Inky with the regen room now, and Chirra looking to try to get a little bit more involved.
Gets off this ult, because Inky is just going to right click him.
He's doing a lot of damage, actually. We got a connection with Watson.
With that Tether on top.
This is a huge kill.
He's not a killing spray swashbuckle doesn't need to be used because the shield crashes and not they're gonna use that on today's instead
So the rotation from Watson ends up being a very big benefit for CJ
And the meantime brew is just free farming top though. So again comes at a price Yandex are getting nothing for free this time around
But the Lena kill is big and it is very important to get your pango into the game
You need some sort of play making coming out from him as bad as Pangos game has been look at the net worth
It's the same as Watson. Yeah
He's not having a great time either
The only core in this game that's kind of holding up is a mar now
The good news for him is he can just free farm now with no help because he has home of the dominator
So that means the index can now choose to allocate their resources differently if they want to they can start playing more with
The IO potentially make some TP plays with pango
And of course with relocate online the map changes drastically now
Other options have opened up for them. Not a bush walk. Push whack, cancellation,
Onto Malony into the Thunder Clap, easy pick off. Gonna try to come and gank that
bot side but not happening now. Nope. And they're probably gonna lose the top
tower. They lost the mid tower at nine minutes, Lena. And her creeper will take
that. This is nine minute boots of travel falcon blade. Pretty good for Niku.
And who knows he might just go stun on level 10, then we have a real party
The fact that this is a viable build disgusts me valve get it together
Yeah, it's not great
Mars gonna be found
They're not gonna go for any nightmare play to take you at this point
They're playing him as bait, both supports next to him as he is farming now.
But Navi aren't taking it.
And he's already going to go for his heart.
It'll be the ring of Taras first, only 400 away from that, so he is extremely hard to kill at this point in the game.
You could say the same for PMA.
What's the last game you've cast that you can remember where one team bought two homes of the Dominator?
Feels like it's been a while.
That's a good question.
Brittys...
...get stunned under the tier one.
Looks like the right hook should be enough to stamp.
He's gonna use to finish the job.
Now they're gonna try to surround God the Juice and all likelihood. CJ dies again.
Yeah, this time it wasn't a solo kill though. There is part of it.
Does that make him feel better?
Uh... maybe?
Okay, it's more acceptable, I will split, cancel that, you can tether the wave, Watson
does have days here as well as bushwhack hits and that fire brewing going to work now.
The second death for Watson is Navi, both top and mid lane owning it up.
Looking for trouble down bottom, wants to get a curse, and I'll try for it.
He did not want to curse next to the bear, surprisingly.
Okay. Using the arctic burn instead on the bear.
I'll use a little bit of resources to get that extra bounty. 245 gold for a mark.
Let me bring up Terras.
Okay, we've been killed long with the curse, but settle for the bear.
And this should be a done deal on the tower, but a lot of resources allocated here for Yandex.
so much time that has not spent farming and that of course means the
difference between PMA as well as Niku and their own course is just growing by
the minute. You know now approaching Kaia. Probably going to see the Kaia-Yasha
into either axe or the right-click build. Like the panel pointed out Niku does
seem to favor that right-click build. In this game maybe the magic build a
a little bit more interesting against cold embrace and with healing of I.O.
They've been a little squirreled on their jungle.
A little vanquish him. Both teams have no follow-up.
There is no follow-up. Yeah, Riddies. See if it'll cost him his life.
So I thought he was there, Niko. And let's say he's going to miss.
He's a little bit more practice on that.
Because he just skilled it.
You don't get to use it all that often.
No, it's not a spell Leena is known for.
I
Hey a squirrel
About the same amount of polygons as more flank hoodwinks cousin on screen right now
So does that make hoodwink the
Abnormal one
No hoodwinks just full of grown. Oh, so that's just the baby. It was a baby squirrel. I see
Yeah, well Watson with the helm of Dom's gonna help him farm and then once he gets that agonist scepter
starts hitting
Little bit harder of course, and that's when his first power spike really will begin
And how do you want to see them play?
Once it's a good question
I feel like for now you're kind of just in full damage control
The goal for yandex is to be allowed to farm on all three cores and whatever way they manage to do that
Whether it's by making a play and then falling back or having supports die
Yeah, for their cores. I think either strategy is fine
Whatever they think is the path of least resistance is probably what I would go for as I say that socks up
Won't be the sacrifice here
Terrorized does hit
Make it a little bit harder with the acorn shot from base coming from the north five feet lead for Naby
Really good to see them bounce back in this grand finals
Yeah, it was you could have been worried after game one that this was just gonna be a complete landslide win for yandex
And of course, I mean, they could still recover this game and make it a one-sided affair all in all, but
at the very least this game, Navi's gonna heavily make them fight for it, and they're clearly favored
from this position. What's the percentage say this time? Dota plus 73, okay?
Well, Navi's in major trouble. You can find the curse here. They're spacing out nicely, no shot.
half way to ag for PMA also often amazed I just realized days is seven and two
yeah he's been getting a lot of the kills he almost has to combine net worth of
the enemy supports hmm he's about to pick up a blink dagger after his essence
I'm gonna try to kill the cobalt form in here, there it goes.
Poor Keith the Bold.
That's not the name of the cobalt.
Wait, co the bold, sorry.
So there's two boulds, Keith the Bold and co the bold?
They're both feeling it.
Oh, I'm co the drunk probably.
All he does is drink.
That's still one of my favorite moments at land events for the crowd when they put the kobold on camera.
That's right, cheers.
This is actually a bigger kill than it looks like.
The 7 and 2 score line.
I'm sure we'll snipe that for an almost finished defusal now.
It's like killing two supports at this point.
Yeah.
Almost feels like it.
That kill was worth 550 golds.
So a tenth of the lead of Navi to be claimed just from that one.
from that one.
And Amar, he's about to retop that dwarf in the game.
Surprise, surprise, Amar finds a way to farm.
The heart is almost finished.
Oh baby, it is now finished.
Love to see it, surely.
Okay, if this wasn't Amar, I would say definitely dagger, but radiant.
Knowing Amar, maybe my Scotty here.
Now Laguna with the paint script.
So two ults for Soxa, the Stampede, and try to counteract this a bit.
Get a lot of damage on the Pangolier as the curse comes out at the last moment.
So Riddies is going to get cleaned up, and Niki wants to finish the Jammachera, Jr.
Just no mercy against this Pango, a double kill for Niku, they get a nice stun connection
on his Wyvern as well.
So a triple for the Medlina, six and one for Niku.
That's bottom lane, got the juice with that, you know, they're doing a lot of damage to that sent to RMR.
He's going to get the host up and retreat, gets connected by Watson.
Well, even maybe trying to surround this does not have Stampede to close the gap though.
You can see the spirits doing some good damage to Niku, but he gets away safely.
So Navi's lead ever growing now.
now. Yeah, nice attempt there from Amar to bait laundry to feel like he could win that
1v1 and then the reinforcements arriving but got the juice did not overplay his hand. Still
working on the agonist scepter on the bear which will drastically change the game. It's
actually going to be really interesting to see the macro with the global bear against
Rilo. It's a kind of unusual matchup. You could assassinate that bear I guess.
He can find Io in the woods instead of a play for his team too.
The PMA, his agonist scepter is on the way. Huge power spike for him.
Well, I'm going to go back and get the
barrel.
Bramble onto the pair with the bet
on the fear.
That's given some distance, but
I should be able to clean them up.
Watch misses, though.
They've already used the
diffusable blade, but not a man
and now.
They've stopped misses as well.
Not the cleanest gank from
Yandex.
You want to call it that.
Front flip though on the other
side.
That's a long-ass tether.
That's right, and they're a very big distinction. They're gonna get in the connection though and Watson just gets blown up
Call it a tapeworm
And the feed script so neat oh, it's like the curse even
And ends up being three solid kills for Navi so all the rest of their team from Yandex in that bot
Well, they get punished pretty hard
And this is where we go back three or four days and in the back of your mind
You're like how are Navi going to mess this up?
But now you're feeling confident that they have learned their lesson from those losses and this is a commanding lead
Yeah, and this should turn into a victory at some point. So a very nice
conversion of their early game and
It's not just that they're doing well in the lanes. They keep the pressure up. It's that it's us
God I love socks minimal communication. It's underrated
completely instigate from Niko this is the lina that I miss and this is what I'm
waiting for the whole tournament yeah just got to give her a 6k lead against
the mid at 20 minutes yeah it's still going to go for the right flick build as
it looks Niko despite finding so much success on these spell bursts he won't
be going pike you got a problem of that no it just makes the question does
he ever want to play the castor build right like maybe not maybe he just
thinks this is better every time? Yeah, perhaps. 20 minute rune's about to spawn, so it's the
tormentor which no one will interact with, of course. Yeah, that's right, thanks for
bringing it up. Days with the bush whack, uses that blink dagger, shot shooter as well,
looks to be a freebie for Niku, and his 10th kill of the game. Didn't contribute that
much though, to be fair. But then again, Days has 8 kills, so fuck him. Yeah,
right and if you had one killer would still be too many according to different
player so it's fine very true right smoke from yandex a more gonna lead the
way yeah they have reload this better work for them this is kind of all right
let's make a move with the dagger plus reload and over opportunity and this
looks like it might just work
get out rolling thunder connects on to the brewmaster they're getting actually
before the primal split goes off it's gonna be close they do double kill for
watson oh boy the old knobby showing up and how the beam strips are counteracted
but the first immediately on to the hood away beat down by the low and druid and
the swashbuckle finds ready to now only one remaining member of Nabi up it's
It's gonna be a full team one.
Oh, wow.
SpaghettiO, that is very, very, very bad for Navi,
especially because it was self-inflicted.
You can let the Lena die and say that's the end of it,
but they tried to take a 4v5.
Brewmaster completes his TP on top of four enemy heroes.
He literally TP'd into a stun?
He TP'd into a stun terrorized.
And he just couldn't move the entire time,
stun locked.
It is what it is.
You see, okay, this is a five-man move, fuck it, you know?
Like, let him die.
Completing this TP with the rolling thunder
is on top of you and you know Willow still has her spells.
This was even a good bushwack.
Day's almost safe, and you couldn't even have relied on that.
Now you get the fiend's grip, and Day's walks in
and gives them a curse, man, it's just...
Oh, this is about...
Yeah, well, it is as bad as it could get,
you lost five and all in this fight.
This is a save your friend syndrome
that everybody has experienced firsthand.
What a disaster.
That is three quarters of the lead almost lost in 30 seconds.
Interested with doing the plus things now.
Yes, we'll die again.
That is indeed interesting.
If we can see the graph, this is one thing.
Look at the progression.
This is actually, this would not pass the safety
regulations in six flags.
I think this is actually lethal, this strong of a drop off.
Now they had a Superman jump before.
Well I guess.
As Riddies will fall so Yandex will get kill after kill.
There's, one thing is the, this ship,
now there's going to be a shift to momentum too
and you need to keep your cool as a team.
Like this is one of those moments
that you really get put to the test.
You knew you were doing well, you knew you were ahead
and you're just crumpled after again, just stun locked.
We haven't seen the primal split in several minutes now.
Oh no.
Okay, used from Watson and Yandex just in stride now
Man if Navi loose this game as well. How will they recover the series?
This is oh man you got curb stomp
You do so well for yourself. He said everything the way you need to and then one absolutely critical area
Ironically, I feel like almost manifested. It's saying that they've stopped doing that
Two minutes later probably their biggest mistake of the last three days
is in that situation, and that's what high pressure moments are.
You're playing against the best team in the tournament in a key moment,
feeling that pressure and a forced error from Yandex pays off way more than they could have hoped for.
Now we're starting to approach some interesting timings now for Yandex's heroes
that they were obviously super far away from Io, close to level 18,
So relocate will be more frequent and easier to use.
Centaur has just cracked a little 18, so strong of a penalty on him.
Itemization-wise, Pango has a dagger now, so he actually gets to play a bit more.
It's a lot of... it's a big snowball. BKB onto Watson.
Yeah, and now Sheeva's for Amar, who's...
Wait, he has? Oh my god, he hasn't.
The only player in the game yet to die is Amar, 5-0.
he is huge and he will almost certainly go shard next usually we see that right
after hard but he was just so rich like why not okay I thought he was actually
gonna jump there unlike a mark to blink away from action yeah he might have
thought it was a bigger team move if he knew where the enemy heroes were I
think you jump that and reload but
now the bear has the agonist scepter and it will be silver edge after the
fact so the typical build overall for the bear would love to see them just start
building on the main here it's just randomly one game just to try it the good
old days the good old two days that we had with that build smoke from Navi and
this would be pretty fruitful onto Watson oh Bushwack just playing it
safe, which is probably fine. I mean, now this is a huge wasted rotation from Navi.
I think he can still stick around.
PMA.
He needs to get off this primal split in these fights. Yeah, it has been
and just very crushing to see him stun locked for how long.
I mean, Eon this would be,
I mean, I know you don't want to go this early, but.
Yeah, I wouldn't mind it though.
I think Rumas is one of the best heroes to do that on,
because I mean, your items
aren't really that impactful and split anyway.
So just guaranteeing you get that key ability off is nice.
He's going for an AC though, looks like, but.
Yeah, the one way you can get splits off here
is obviously trying to force fights,
which there's multiple ways of doing.
You can go Roche, make the enemy team come there.
Come on, come on, come on, come on.
Should I not die, Sheeva's?
Sheeva takes it.
You can go Roche, you can try to hit high ground,
which I would advise heavily against.
Otherwise, you need to find a catch
that the enemy team responds to,
and you think, who's playing?
That just seems really difficult right now.
Reloading to try to kill the bear.
Oh, nice damage.
I'm gonna shoot her onto the line,
or though Dr. Juice finishes the job,
bear does die, and days will as well.
You know if the bear is supposed to be a hero we need to see a sixth slot up there
Sixth hero portrait the top. Yeah, that would actually be nice also for fight recaps and stuff to
See it more and if anything just replace long drew who gives it about this real useless
Especially once a x comes out
Actually when x comes out change the portrait
to the bear. Until then, longer he gets to be the hero when you fought X, we all know that.
Well, long as we really have more than Iron Branches, get him the hell out of that.
Right? I don't want to see his face at all.
It's a big pick up for Yandex.
Not so much for themselves, but for the fact that Navi don't get this,
which really drastically limits the opportunity of considering high grounding.
And when it comes to real late game, Yandex just...
probably has the experience in the edge
Do you think their lineup stone is better late game on paper?
I think it's hard to say actually which you go back a couple of years and you're like what are you talking about?
But I don't carry is actually super strong. Yeah, it is
But alone Druid has been carried a tournament. That's just there's some wild parts in there, especially with relocate
So that's avoiding there from Niku on the brambles
Ready's is dead
Yeah first crown so actually does dodge wow, okay. That really is fine because they messed up a bit
Okay, there's a damage room body help with that
Relocate for Watson ends up back at the bot side
Four minutes on the ages they don't really have tower pushing her in the index really it's just sent our
Kind of the same until I was 25
Yeah, and you know I suppose so a lot more even then they don't have the best
So that's that level 20 time coming out
Minus 30 second relocate cooldown very cool talent. That used to be the 25, right?
Something like that
Now he has a mjolnir
So 40 second cooldown reload.
You ask if we've seen the two Helmedoms on the same team.
And we've seen Centaur Io on the same team because they just always buy that.
I'm not sure if they picked that in the other games that Soxa did there.
Long current on X.
Soxa will break it.
Pretty as is dead.
Phase on the run.
Grampol he will find his way out of an attempted TP.
Not going to happen.
Not this time.
support maybe? First, let's cancel it. So the index gets both of them.
And tomorrow we'll be going for the cart. Oh yeah, we'll be able to drive around the
Wisp. You will be able to act as a save for whoever gets gripped. Very very
strong knight in this game. Reload again. Oh man, he did the hard part right and then he messed up
the easy one. Yeah. That LSA timing was flawless and it doesn't be kippy off the cursed crown.
It's very greedy thinking he can play his way out of that one. And another one for Yandex. And
Man. Look at the graph. Not so much the golden experience, but look at the number of faces
on the top and bottom in this. They've killed Wyvern twice in the last ten minutes, and
it's flooded with trophies on the bottom. There is nothing happening for Navi in this
game aside from towers and a couple of Malady kills now.
Well, the Silver Edge is out for got the juice. This is usually when we see the
to take it to another level but these items for specifically on Mars seem to be coming
every single minute.
We're going to get the Sharpshooter onto the Dark Willow, Niner's going to slow this down
a bit, Swashbuffler will follow, I think we'll get the kill though as PMA, we'll
get rid of the creep, looks like that'll break things up.
He was limit testing and he found the limit at 20 seconds 3v1 that was
Yeah, that was impressive.
That's a little bit of a worry inside though for now.
We were like hell yeah, we killed him, but then you try to imagine that in a team fight.
This guy's gonna be borderline in the end.
Can you get the brew split off? The rolling thunder right on top.
Regardless, he will drop and again this is
Is this the third time he hasn't gotten primal split off?
Yeah, they're coordinating these places really really well.
He has the AC.
Eon this is next for him.
But man, if that came earlier he could have avoided at least a couple of these deaths.
Socks are gonna walk up the high ground or approach it and that was a mistake.
Now Panko!
Yeah, hold up race to try to stay alive.
That's gonna provide more confidence around LSA, Shark Shooter, goodbye.
Niku.
Double kill and the Aegis is now out.
So Yandex play a little bit more passive now.
Now they're taking good advantage of it. A couple of back-to-back kills here.
It's going to give them some breathing room.
Niku now almost has the Daedalus on the Lena.
Makes a crazy kill squat together with the Bear with Travels.
This is a play they can look for later, especially against the Io, just traveling
into the Silver Edge Bear, going for a Fear, Laguna, and full physical burst combo between
between the two. I think Watsonu will have a hard time itemizing anything else in disc
against that particular play on the stretch. But he's got workhorse for that. Yeah, then
he needs to be close though. Centaur and Io are not going to play close to each other
Most of the game from here on out.
Daedalus almost completed on Watson as well, approaching level 25.
I would imagine he takes the relocate talent actually on 25 here.
There, BKB.
Can't be dead now. He's gonna try to go for a kill before and die shortly after.
And the cart did save the dark willow. Yep, so Douglas also for Niku so that one just completed and he said that the IO
Yeah, very good all the way. They're gonna get it almost simultaneously
But I think I might just take the relocate on here the Taylor target thing is tempting
But you don't really have a what do you have maybe with swashbuckle? I guess that's a kind of nasty combo. No I
Think that would fire four shots from you because the swashbuckle hits right or three sorry
I don't know what it if that works that way. It's pretty strong not against buildings
That doesn't matter, but in teamfights if he tethers to pango. It's a lot of damage to get three free swings. I
think so I
Don't know if it counts as a like other interactions. It applies the modifiers
I don't think counts as an attack well if if there no snake bites pango and he swashbuckles
He takes damage. Oh, okay, so I would think this follows the same rules
That would be really cool to see this combo then pay attention
Yeah, I'll see I'll see if he takes the time to forget about this conversation 30 seconds. So maybe less actually
Want to clean up the bot lane getting close to that 25
There's Niku the highest level on his team at 23 right now there it is 25, so what is he gonna choose?
Do you remember when we talked about Swashbuckle with IO25?
Sorry what?
Not sure if it's been 36.
He's thinking about it.
Yeah.
Clearly.
Maybe they're having that conversation.
That's entirely possible.
We're going to show themselves.
We're going to show themselves.
DMA looking to finally get a brew split off.
The first time in Rodnos, how long Laguna played by the tank.
But the pullover is going to save the time being.
Terrorite back onto the brew master.
And the horse cart comes out.
Ready to go to the first default, but CJ dies for Yandex.
And now let's see if they try to run away.
From Stomp from Amar, he's super tanky.
Linked up via Watson as well.
He could kill Sox, though.
Looking for potential targets.
Target very hard to deal damage to a Marlin when he's in front. He did take the
Okay, double hook stop from the one in the last column. Watch the pop to the BKB doing a good amount of damage.
But now he's taking the rightly perfect lead through. The Daedalus is doing so much.
The Cold embrace will mitigate all of this, but now he's stuck in a horrible spot between a bear and a Lena.
And the bear gets the tail. Now Marl, trying to finish the job up to Miku. They will get him in the end.
And now the next target is this freaking bear. Goes in Viz.
Marl, Cart, they do find it.
That's still good for Navi though, you get the socks up high back, and you still kill
Io and Pango, but perhaps we're hoping for a better outcome than that.
With trading Bane for Pango who doesn't even get roll-off, you would think they could get
a better exchange than that.
As you said, Amar is just enormous.
He is going Daedalus on Centaur.
What?
Are you okay?
No way.
There's no way he does this.
This might be the first time ever.
No way.
It's genuinely the first time ever if he buys it.
He's not going to do that.
hilarious though
God, I hope he does it
This is effectively him saying we don't have enough physical damage
Yeah, CJ dying right off the bat not great the cart was he tried to get the the workhorse on
To tango, but just couldn't get close enough
So let's think of this a bit I open give him a lot of attack speed
With overcharge I owe whenever sent our attacks also proxen attack because he did take the left talent
Yeah, and if they have any other way of giving a tech speed to Amar like a solar crest or if he
Maybe someone goes an AC down the street
Have you ever seen this
Incoming rolling thunder
They messed it up. Yeah, they did.
Not quite enough, so the Primal Split does successfully cast.
They cleaned up the Brewlings, though.
They're gonna kill the Splint.
Only the Earth one remains trying to go through the gate,
but they're gonna kill it, and they're gonna kill Brew with them.
That's even better than killing him before the Split.
Very true.
No, it doesn't have it either.
Pleased by this Daedalus. Don't tease me.
Monomar.
If you wanted to, you could have bought the Chrysalis already.
That's a little bit worrying.
Come on, Monomar.
Don't do this to us.
We all wanted to see right-click Centaur before I'm sure.
If you advise it, I want to see the timer versus average pickup time on Centaur for Daedalus.
I want to see the cameras of Navi when it gets revealed.
That's what I want to see.
Bramble.
Niko has the damage rune.
He switched to AC.
Dammit!
Boo!
Boo this man.
Dammit, man.
God, I wish.
Can we pause the game and just trash-talk him?
I genuinely think it was a good idea, too.
I don't know about that. I wouldn't go that far.
Specifically because of IO, otherwise it would have been awful.
I understand your...
IO, I genuinely wouldn't have minded it.
This hero gets a lot of damage.
Also, they're going to jump the bear.
Yes, they are.
It's dead.
And the RPGVs.
RPGVs are nice. Even worse.
Just like Bruce Splitting and then dying.
Now the chaining together as many Ls as possible right now.
Bear dead for 40 seconds.
I
Thought he might go for I know he's not dying with BKB allows you to save people a little bit easier because he's good getting
Stopped by a million stuns. Yeah, I
Don't think he minds being targeted though. No, he doesn't mind being target smart trying to save like this pango
That's getting gripped. Yeah, and you can't get to the other side because your blinks getting canceled, but
It's a mar. It's fine
That's killing a boc terrain. All right. You switch to a pistol
Yeah, and keep in mind you're looking at damage 250 these crits are already nice if you get a couple of stacks up of your shard. Yeah, it's a lot more.
Now I want to do it myself. You're going to get reported for that. Well, you need to play with carry IO, so that's probably not going to happen actually.
see so now I want to do it myself you're gonna get reported for that well you
need to play with carry IO so that's probably not gonna happen actually not
all that many people playing that
where's on it when you need them
got the juice has butterfly on the bear and looks like he's going for scottie and cheera
going for an ac as well i don't think he's gotten the uh did he get the message here
i wouldn't mind the linkin's on him laguna blade and laguna blade grip desun i mean
sure he can just remove it within people with so they can extra layer of
development
I'm so lucky
oh he gets the bash on the lina oh that's bad here is Niku
that's really all bad
Jirin Jr is possibly going to get this kill but no dives inside it's on BKB and out of cold embrace
keeps the panko alive
oh oh he went for the TPL
can they stop knocking again beyond this allows the primal split
but can they kill these rulings again?
I feel like they're just food
Another cold embrace saving the pangal against the bear.
There's the curse on top.
Chirra Jr. gets enough distance, gets to the hydrant.
The bear cannot get up there.
That's great defense mechanisms against the bear park.
Days come through with a huge acorn shot
which actually kills Chirra Jr.
100 o'clock coming out now from the brew mass
where he gets destroyed by Sox in a company.
And this fight is all Yandex.
They lose their mid laner,
but they're gonna get plenty out of it.
There's days, silent stuff, workhorse into death.
Yeah, that's just-
And there's an orcate on Malady, and I was wondering who had that.
Niku tried to TP out in the middle of the top lane and got bash flash washbuckled,
and that's the beginning of this complete cascade of events, which I think now be fighting with a dead Lina.
I kind of get it. She didn't have buyback.
If you just let the index do whatever they want, they just start pushing your lanes.
You're kind of desperately hoping you get some sort of opening
This sets you I believe easily as long as the more it takes the damage from the tower
Yeah
Somebody must have said no, yeah, but to set the barracks is close to it at this point some of it on the ages too, so
I'm gonna go for some more
Have the audacity to show himself on the map somewhere.
Let's go to his fountain.
Don't cast spells.
To do a lot of damage to these tier four.
They still have the fan, or...
No, you're right.
They pulled away all of the creeps, though.
Man, Mark can kill off these towers just by standing there.
One tier four falls.
They do have two buybacks on Navi.
They're gonna expend one.
I believe Yannick's gonna get this tower and maybe back.
We'll see.
That's the bear on the way. Has the Scotty.
They force me to speak. They try to run away. We're going to play.
Is it enough to finish off Malady? They get the terrorite in retreat, so Yandex resetting.
Malady with the classic 5, Wyvern, Bilbs. I say that. Resetting into instant aggression, of course.
Swashbump can get the bash onto the bear. Barlow to hookstops on the finish off.
Little squirrel they will do, so 80 seconds for both supports dead. Now it's got to get
because focusing on this big backhawk is not going to happen my friend.
That bear will die. Now the workhorse comes for you.
Niko, Hurricane Planker gets first.
PMA finally comes back in the normal form.
Ian, this is going to proc, saves him for a bit, but he's surrounded.
Only a matter of time.
It's Shiro Junio trying to get some revenge on the Niko.
He's a shit out of early game.
And that's going to be it. Gigi is called Yandex.
2-0 start in this best of five grand final.
Oh, this was the game that Naughty could win.
And when it's hard to imagine how they possibly recover from these two games back to back,
first you are completely, I mean you just got thrown in the big game one, that game
was over a minute five.
This game, you're really really far ahead, you have all the cards in your hand, and
you drop the cards on the floor, and that's not the way you play unfortunately, Yandex,
what a performance to recover that though.
very impressive. Thank you very much,
as said by Yandex, it looked rough for them, but it is also very cool to see because we
know Yandex is able to stomp games. We've seen that time and time again. It is cool
to see where they have a rough early game and recover because the losses that they've
had so far were actually games where they were not able to recover, I think. Kizu,
This is Yandex in top form, apart from the first five minutes.
Maybe even 15, 20, like, actually this was the one game where you could really, I think,
set the tempo, like, for this grand finals, get yourself to W, because Niku, he dumpstered
Jero Junior harder than I've seen this happen in like a whole year maybe, and the fact
that you still can't close out this game, it's a little bit concerning.
So I hope that they take the good things from this game, you know, recalibrate
on the one or two mistakes you made and then still take some good thoughts and mentality into game three.
Janus just remained calm like this entire game. Even though Sierra Jr. was struggling with like
two billion deaths on the mid lane, like you kind of saw Amar go noice, I'm going to hit my creeps on
the side lane, I'll 1v1 the lone Druid, like Watson was making so many of these early rotations
to get these little pick offs like days, he had multiple different streaks, but he was going
aggressive and then he'd give a streak away. Then you reset, like his storyline was great,
you only need a couple deaths, but those two deaths enabled Watson to feel like he was
getting into the game even helped
Pangolin eventually get to his refusal blade
so I think the yandex is like they took a deep breath
you know, back to his bad once and then
suddenly got real good after
yeah pretty much they it's you know
you heard about the support difference
mid-diff this one was definitely down to
x-diff because these are more
experienced players and you could feel
in some of these fights after that
like one big fight in the triangle
where Navi they just couldn't
get back into the game they couldn't
back, head back into mentality to like find a way to make a good decision. It was Riddies,
it was Niku, it was PMA dying, it just they just kind of kept feeding the kills left and right and
I don't think they had a good read on a game that they were still ahead in and it just feels
kind of bad seeing that this happened in the game number two because coming into you know
potentially game four, game five, this is something that's going to affect them in the
most important one in that scheme 3 being 2-0 down.
The central ended with like 38,000 damage.
See, he ended the game with more damage than Alina.
At some point in the game with like 10-1,
Niku was having a great game and then Amar was like,
No, no, no, I will have the great, the best games.
You know, and it was, yeah.
I mean, Amar also just, he fixed,
he stabilized a lot of what was happening
because he just able to soak up the side lane farm so nicely.
Also, I think it's like the testament of like the great teams
and right now that is Yandex.
Even if a guy has a bad game,
Sometimes you don't bring them back by putting everyone to the lane and ganking for them.
You focus on your own thing. You still keep your own game going.
And I think Amar is one of the best offlaners at doing so.
Like ending this game with his scoreline when he didn't really have a mid hero for like the first 20 minutes,
but still being able to do that. Yeah, it's just why this guy is so damn good.
Yeah, and why this guy in this case will get the MVP.
Well deserved, granted, but thought he didn't go for Daedalus.
And that little drop we see highlighted here, that is the moment where it all went downhill for Navi.
And even though they weren't that bad in terms of the net worth, I mean Lacoste talked about experience in terms of competition experience, but in the game, same story.
The experiences greatly went the way of Yandex, the levels.
Yeah, they were quite ahead like Lena. She had big streaks. You talked about days as all who've had an amazing game and how to win dying multiple times.
This is where the XP difference is also gonna come through. But these early kills on Chura Jr.
Like he didn't feel like a factor for first half of the game. And he really received the beating in that mid lane.
Even though it should not be this bad. Like Hango, like we're gonna be seeing some of these kills. It starts with the first solo kill.
he basically killed them solo three times. There's going to be a rotation coming out from
days as well. Not sure if he even landed a spell. There's going to be another.
That's one right there.
Yeah, there's one. He actually gets it in the end. That did have also bug grenade just
in case he needed it. Playing behind the tower as well, understand it. Because at the
moment not many heroes on side of the index can actually help them. They need levels.
They need stampede. Potentially they need relocate from Hio. Two supports are not
that great at rotating, playing with the pango who has been so far behind in this game.
Yeah, I think it's also just when you overall look, I think Navi should be happy with the draft
they got in the first like 15 to 20 minutes, but I think the Lacoste raise a good point that
even after their ginormous throw that happened later, I don't think they played with the
understanding of we're still ahead in the game. They were kind of playing like as if they were
behind 5k gold, 6k gold, and that is something that is really hard to fix between games because
that's more a mental and how you feel in the game whether you're strong or not so I hope that right
now see why you know he's the coach they're all very young they need a little bit of help yeah how
are you gonna like that seems like something that you can't necessarily fix mid series is like oh
actually guys you were ahead you should have played the way you were ahead it's if it's a
mental thing it's gonna take more grand finals it's tough yeah I mean that's kind of the
difficulty of any successful team and they're kind of pursuit of finally getting success for
for Na'Vi, right? And I think at least in this game, it's just, you don't over-complicate it.
You just kind of look at one moment again, like when they all died as five heroes and just disappeared
off the face of the earth.
Oh, you mean the clip that we are about to watch?
The clip where it did all go wrong for Na'Vi?
Yeah, for sure. This is like, when you look at the minimap, I think that's the most important thing.
Like, the Bane has opted to play in front of the blue monster at this stage in the game.
Dave's of course responding, running back, and I think in these moments, there isn't really good vision
the map for Navi to play on. They've got this like deep, aggressive ward of wards south as well.
And it's like the Bane realistically should either be protecting his leaner who's having the best
game of his life, or you should just be holding back and waiting for a bit more information
because in this critical moment in the game, I think Navi, the reason why they're doing so well
was because their supports are running around the map, tanking the moves, setting up the pace,
but as soon as the supports took their foot off the gas, sat back for one second,
the Andex was like, wait, hold on, the supports are out of position, be you line it to the
most like farm intense area of the map whoever we kill was going to feel good so I think the
supports unfortunately for Na'Vi didn't enter the mid game we're like locked in razor focus
they also like you need to navigate not only what you want to do like that they're going to take
a gold well navigate oh god that wasn't even on purpose well played like you need to not only
even think about what you need to do but what is the enemy doing like Amar didn't have a blink
he just picked it up it's the one moment where they can't strike they did and it's where the
the entire game, it just turned.
Yeah, but it was a good show for those first 20 minutes.
And that is what we hope to see again from Navi this time
without the throw or obviously if you're a Yandex fan,
you just want them to do it again
and 3-0 the Grand Finals.
Let's see if they can do it
or if Navi will push back.
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of the game.
Yandex is on match point. And
if they win this one, they'll
be the champions of season nine
of the guys in your screen. They
are going to play their hearts
out to force out more games in
and the progression from Game 1 and Game 2 was noticeable very clearly, Tegav, and I think that there is a good shot.
We are going to have this series extended, but it has to come from somewhere. It has to come from them tightening up that mid-game.
Yeah, I think right now, you're back against the wall for Navi. You've stabilized your drafts going into Game 2.
I'm not sure the play is a little inconsistent in the mid game, but it's like the two most important things in Dota, a draft and laning phase,
Navi has clearly proven that they can now do it against Shandex.
So this is very much like you need the full reset. We heard in earlier interviews from CY, like when the players leave the game now,
they're not overthinking the previous game, they are just kind of resting, living in the moment, thinking for the future,
and they have the qualities that if CY said they finally started doing it in this tournament, they have to continue doing it,
you doing it because you cannot think about game one or game two now let's see
why do that and play your best order there has been a bit of a night and day
difference and it comes down to Navi in the group stage how many times they had
the game in the bag when they were able to like kind of throw it they went in
the end the same thing could have happened here but during the first
couple of days of playoffs Navi looked very very crisp and I want to see that
Navi back because we've seen them like even in the series against LGD
making some mistakes that they have been doing in game one.
This has just been a stomp. I think you need to scratch this one,
because you need to forget about that game.
Second game, there has been a lot of momentum that they needed to thrive on,
and then they made a couple of big mistakes and never made a comeback.
So I want to see Na'Vi bounce back, because this team definitely does deserve
a better overall chance, especially with the performance they had from Niku.
The problem is Niku dumpsters his lane,
lane and then always kind of has these weird deaths and also Alina. I don't know how you guys feel
about the hero but every single time he played it he looks good. Win rate is a little bit of abysmal
sitting at only 33% win rate at the moment. I feel like that draft was quite good. I don't know if
they need to change much. I think also like they take a lot of boxes. I think you first picked
your hero for got the juice. It's not like Amar had it. He ended up with a crazy game but
I think you got through the laning stage. You had a stable game. Everything was good
and it seems like you know you picked Elina I don't know if CJ has like that many insane counter picks to it
so that's something else that you can think about it was nice for the game later you faulted in gameplay
you can't make up for that much gameplay in the draft you can make it easier I think maybe that's
what CY can look for but overall I think strategy wise they had everything they needed let's not
forget though is pretty earth after game one and we talked about Yandex is like you know that
was that was flawless nothing much you can learn from that game just try to recreate that
that momentum. Game 2, I think
Yandex has got some work to do as well.
I don't think they're going to let Shira
have that type of matchup again.
They'll make sure that Niko is not going to
have a start like that.
Yeah, I think in the draft for Yandex
at least, they had a farmer off lane
on a map that couldn't auto win the lane
through bullying, like we see on
Necrophos or Slardars or Timbersaws.
So that was one thing to note.
And you also had Tiro during an
NA matchup that could go very poorly,
which he very much found a way to
Yeah, there's one thing to notice like the body language from Riddies. We saw him on camera
not giving me too much confidence coming into this one because he needs to shake it off like
after the first game they had the second one in the bag I I want to see something else showing that
you know this is the best result of the season pretty much they did get that second place than
one of the slams maybe like more due to the format not trying to take anything away from them
but this is double a limb, this is Swiss, so you need to be consistent and in this term and they definitely have been consistent when it comes down to performances.
So I want to see them cheer up, you know, and just play the best Dota because this could be potentially their last game.
I can see why though, like for this team, like the expectations on this team, this organization, the players themselves, like also, you know, being pretty much a national team, it's like all of this goes in the back of their minds.
When they enter a tournament, it's like, could this be a time that we finally bring Navi back?
And then you get to playoffs, and then you're making a low bracket run, like,
and now you're a game away from maybe losing that Grand Finals.
I can see how it is, like, the hardest point for these young players' careers.
And I'd like to think that they can shake it off before the game.
And if this is what he needs to do to reset, let him do it.
Because, again, like we already mentioned, he needs to play his best ever now.
And this time around, we have the teams swapped around.
So the young teams on the right-hand side, Navi's on the dire side.
Pick order stays the same. So Yandex has first pick, or at least they had that in the first game as well.
And we have got Alina coming out for Navi straight away, and only one hero to ban to counter it.
Is that enough? Is that good enough? Kezu, I see you frown a little bit.
No, I think it's good. I was a fan of the Lina last game. I think it will be more than okay, I think again in this game.
There aren't that many heroes that beat Lina and also allow CJ to do what he generally does for the game,
or for this team rather, where he moves around later.
You know, your monkeys, pangos, we saw it in the last game.
Yeah, it shouldn't go that poorly, but you're never going to win the lane with those heroes.
So maybe he could look for the heroes like some Shaker, Sand King, one more guy.
Maybe DK, I don't know if he's played that much.
But all of these heroes have like, you know, they have some pros, but they also have cons into the Lina.
But it's also, I think, in the two games we've seen, we've yet to see PMA and Niku perfectly combo up in the early game.
Because when you have Kari, like a Kariper, like Got the Juice, he's always going with the Terrablades, the Lifestealers, the big cores that want to scale.
So if you don't see Offline mid working together on RV, something's not working, they're not functioning, and you're going to get outplayed at some point.
Yeah, for sure. Also, something to notice is that Saksap is in a five-game winning streak with this Dark Willow.
A hero that just ate the game with my friend.
Okay, maybe I've seen something in current.
You just need to refresh the tab and then it's going to...
Yeah, okay, so it's 8.
There's a good reason why they are first picking it, because I think this is the strongest position for right now.
They've had a great performance on Hoodwink in the previous one, but this one gives you teamfight, it gives you AoE control.
How many times have you seen so far where it's a follow-up kind of stun, terrorize onto any initial stun.
It just gives you enough time to kill the hero.
And we did buff this ability like this year has been buffed over the course of the couple of patches where the AoE became bigger and it feels so much easier to play now.
You think Chirger is going to run back the pango and go, you know what, my 4th death, I can fix it.
There are some mid laners that would opt to go that route for sure.
Yeah, I don't want to see it, but it's more like, I mean in game 3 of the finals, it could be kind of interesting if they opt it.
It could be.
Double Corpick out of the top of this draft.
Do you think Riddice feels a bit better now that the two supports that Navi played in the previous game are both banned out?
So there's not some respect put on that, you know, so he knew that, you know, he did, he did good.
You take the wins where you can.
Yeah, yeah.
Also, what should help them is that they're actually getting counter picks on both their supports.
Like, when you pick, Lina centered is early.
Obviously, they will see a little bit more on their supports, which I don't really mind.
I think a lot of the laning, sometimes people think, oh, it's always like it's the core-to-core matchup.
But how the support interacts with his own core and against the enemy support is actually incredibly like important to those laning matchups
So I I kind of like this approach from Navi because I think what they had in the last game
They made it hard for like a mark to have a good lane
Maybe this some run is a little bit harder. You don't have to launder it
But I can see this approach then I want to see like the dazzle five for Navi
Well, they have like the strong five that confide into the lane like inspire the game through having like a kill or two to
Your name and then you run around to PMA. You have the central
They haven't lost on these heroes, the socks and Malady that is. I think they have both 100% win rate.
But to be fair, they only dropped two games over the entire tournament.
Yes, the stats are going to be slightly inflated, but the combination between two of them, I really love that.
Like we've seen in the previous one, just Curse into terrorized follow up.
Now you have Invoker spells to throw into the mix as well.
Centaur, Lina, this could be very good. Mars game for a Mars to throw it in there.
They're baiting him.
Yeah, they're baiting him.
Baiting into the free win, not like that.
I mean, what can you go here?
I think the Dazzle is nice that you already mentioned.
It's also something they've obviously played before.
You should just last pick your carry on 24,
so it has to just be your double sub here.
The Marana comes out, another hero that has been picked very frequently here,
especially when the Hootwing and the Willow and the Wind Ranger
were either picked or banned out.
I don't mind it just for the information aspect of the game, right?
Lina always wants to play on active runes, so now with Murana, every moonlight shadow will be used for that rune.
If it's not, it's to try and get a slightly better positioning to deal with how amazing the three Yandex heroes are at counterplay.
Both Willow, Invoker, and Wendwaven all have a statement spell to throw into a fight to disengage and then take the fight to a better location.
So for Nabi, they need to make sure their initiations are very good, and I think that's what Murana will bring in a stable balance game.
A lot of stuns, I think, this type of lineup for Navi, they're trying to simplify as well,
especially after what happened in game number two.
So they wouldn't be having a lot of stuns, a lot of ways to play through the early stages,
strong side lanes, and strong mid lanes as well with this Lena pick that they picked in the first phase.
Yeah, the one thing I wonder, so generally when people have picked, I think the center out of phase,
you will look like Diana Timber, maybe a life stealer.
That's obviously quite good against the center.
I don't think Watson has played much of it, but he's played many other good heroes as well
You know there's a Sven in the pool
I think T you're a big fan of clings if they want that's also something else they could bust out
So again, I do think they have quite a lot of options here on their 18 pick
Is there ever a one where Navi is kind of full flexing the supports and also Lina in this draft where like Lina plus
Task can be a safe lane, Morana Centaur can be your off lane, but then you can invert it as well
Lina just goes mid you find a new character. Yeah, Lina in verse you can do the trick. Do the trick
Yeah, I like the Clanks. I also think maybe a good TA game that we could see. He did play it, I believe, in two of the games.
He didn't lose that one game. If they feel like they need some more explosive damage, I was about to mention Sven, because with Alacrity,
it's one of the best matchups against Lina throughout the whole game. You always have overwhelming damage.
damage, Lina doesn't like to get jumped and it's also going to be damage that can kill the centaur.
Yep, Sunstrike setup also and like you don't really have any jumpers yet. Also it always helps.
I think Amar is overall here. Pull, he's not always you know the first jumper. Now CJ isn't
going to do that either so he covers a lot of boxes with the Sven pick. Yeah you got to remove
Lifestealer most likely. This is something that GTJ, he loves to play against the Sven.
There is a bit of a difference in what they're able to get out of the lanes.
A lot of the times we see Lysthair getting a bit of a slower entry to the games,
when of course with the built-in, Cleave does make sure that he is staying on top of the network pretty much,
but throughout the game it could be very good.
At least now they have, I like the days that they picked this Tusk on 17,
making sure that they have a BKB piercing ability,
potentially knowing that this pick could come out.
Yeah, he played a very good talk in the lower bracket today.
Let's see what the bands are then we got a tear blade removed from the pool
And we already mentioned the life stealer which also makes me think that on the side of the yandex
We need an offlaner so then the razor comes to mind as well
I'm trying to see if yandex is bad in to protect the Sven's game or Mars length at the moment
It feels more towards the Sven because like for a mile
I'm thinking of like tight hunter any hero that can just stand his ground and just
annoy Navi's initiation, because the way that they kill a hero is that that perfect layering of multiple stuns for multiple heroes.
Yeah, and also seeing the Slardar band, they really would probably want to get that lifestealer that we mentioned.
Do you think that's something that they should respect? I think also, if you're a Navi, I mean it depends of course what the Annex will go for here,
but at least one hero if they're going to bust out like some Viper or Razor, Windranger carry is something that can work,
GTJ has played that many times, or T suggested that Lena goes carry, I think that's something
else you can do.
That's what I think from a Mars hero pool, I'd rather have a bit more of a normal off-lane
pick, just to play for like, kind of frontline and initiation, rather than having to be
this like big counter, because I think now we have the tools to create a safe lane
that can fight the razors, the vipers, the huskars, all of this.
It's not as if any of these ranged annoying Amar heroes will come into play and be
like, ah, they broke the draft once again from the end deck.
I think that, okay, Timber has been banned, never mind. Back to you, Kezu.
I'm always your back to you guys.
Yeah, at least with the Life Sealer ban, obviously that matchup is quite good for Life Spirit into Sven,
but it also would lead me a little bit to believe that it's not one of the range guys.
Oh, it's a boss pick. Here it is.
Yeah, please no.
I mean, he would be the type of guy that wants to make a statement that I can beat you with this bullshit of a hero.
Yep.
There, there, that's a boss loss.
Or a Legion commander laugh.
I actually think legions better than Mars
Like literally no cap
I might be in the FTR for these heroes
Well one more band coming out first
There's no Huskar, you know, we don't know what Navi wants to pick a lifestealer TV. They have been banned out
So it's a it's a possibility that he is gonna bang it out and then the end it's gonna be pango
So now let's see what they've been cooking for a mar
They still have half a minute left in their bonus time.
You're banning Pango though in 22.
So what carries didn't want to lane into a Pango there?
I feel like every carry loves laning into Pango.
So you're just trying to remove Comfort and you're like calling the bluff that their range carries just don't do it.
The only option I can think of is like the brood carry that got the juice sometimes plays.
That's the only carry I can go you might think about Pango later ban.
the band. But it's like, yeah, it just feels, that's an interesting band.
I wonder if we could understand a bit more after Navi has picked their overall
last hero.
Yeah, it might just be some removal of comfort. I'm not sure, because I don't
really see it. Like, I think then you're like overthinking quite hard on
like this and that, because if there's a pango, you have 29 new other
carries that you can suddenly pick and be like, I'm free farming and I'll
own this game.
I think it's should be a windranger potentially for Navi it is good lane
partner with the Tusk if they want to run this lane and then you always have
focus fire against Huskar there are like I don't think you're gonna be having fun
no matter which hero you pick here on 24 I think Yandex covered a lot of
grounds here overwhelming damage BKB piercing abilities the spell mechanic
coming out from tornado. The one thing with the wind carry to deal with the
Hasuka lane is you are entering a lane that is a full battle lane so you're not
going to be perfectly farming. You are going to be trying to like survive the
Hasuka, maybe even kill the Hasuka and then Sven will always get to his items
with this type of setup so you do need to consider that other people on the
team will need to fix your carry not being able to enter as early but because of a
type of lane that you're entering. Yeah and they should put the task into
the safe lane. Maybe even like starting with three heroes in that in your own
safe and I don't even think about mind that every time I watch Amar play he's
either destroying the lane or going even like kill trading with you and I think
eventually like Huskar with level 4 or 5 or getting helm of iron will suddenly
these carries don't do that much to you anymore so I think just getting this
advantage early on is what I would like to see them do you are down 0 and 2 I
think it's okay to maybe go a little bit more crazy outside of the box where
you do have to opening for it I think it will be ready for these
types of moves like there's no Huskar player that's level 30 that
doesn't think about can they kill me at a trial in in the first wave are they
gonna gank me so I am looking at yes like as you mentioned will Navi bring
three heroes are yandex gonna try and dodge it for the first wave or two are
they gonna bring three heroes themselves but yeah trying to understand the
house car lane is important and can they shut down the send was also dealing
with the house car lane yeah clenx has a lot of lifting to do in this game
because it should be okay like the matchup against huskar but you are
are all about the physical damage.
You have Sven on your team who is empowering their armor.
You have Winter Vibrant as well.
Not the easiest game for Klink, so I would say,
but we kind of expected that after seeing what, again,
Yandex put quite a lot of pressure on them.
Even Navi, two times having the last pick,
it just doesn't feel like this is it.
Like this kind of a pick is closing this phase
and be like, oh, it's unkillable.
This hero is going to take over the game.
Is there a chance Liku on his Lina
has a similar game, Kezu, as he had previously.
Close to it.
I don't think he can repeat, because he's not
going to kill Invoker four times.
If he does that, then he's like the most go-to mid ever.
But he'll have a good game.
Yeah, the Invoker is not because, because Shira got
the chance to counter-pick.
He could miss click maybe with 4 spurts,
and that's when he run down mid.
That's the only way that I think
Niki's going to get solo kills in this one.
He will win mid for sure, and he will dominate,
but I think it's a tough game.
OK, a tough game for Navi.
So potentially, we have a 3-0 here for Yandex.
Let's see if that's indeed going to happen, or if Navi will force out another game to this grand finals.
Before we get to that game three, though, we're heading over to Nomad, who is talking to coach SL.
Thank you, Shiva. Yeah, Mr. Selso, game number two, it looked a little bit tough for you guys at the beginning,
but somehow you're able to come back really, really strong.
What was that moment in the game where you realized that your boys were going to take a second game here?
I mean, I didn't expect us to come back that easily, I would say.
I think they fucked up really hard, tipping one by one and yeah, the smoke, just win us a game.
Yeah, you came back into that one and now suddenly you're two games up, one game away from taking it.
So tell me about this Klink's last pick from them, does that scare you at all?
I mean, it's a good Klink's last pick, but I think Gazazaz doesn't play this hero.
And yeah, I have no idea how it's going to go, we'll see.
Alright, well you also of course managed to get the Huskar. Were you surprised to get a Huskar that leg into the draft, considering how well it's been going for you guys on that hero?
I wasn't really surprised, even though I thought it's going to get banned most likely, but it sounds like the easiest Huskar game, there's also no Ayo Huskar and tough, but it's still Amar Huskar.
You need to respect it indeed. He's a big one on that respect. Alright, well final question for you. Is this a 3-0? Do you reckon you're taking it?
I will not jinx it
Suspicious man he will not jinx it already well, let's get into what could be the final game here with Sunspan and Cinderan
Is it the final game Cinderan? Is it actually gonna be a swear me and X threat this entire tournament have lost two singular games?
We're not going to come back. It would be monumental. They already see a potential level one fight
That will now end immediately so you can speak. Yes
Yes
Interesting from that interview. He says he doesn't think got the Jews plays clinks
Clearly not one of his most played heroes, but you would think a hero that you run in the grand finals
You would have some sort of confidence on at the very least
There's some clear upsets to the pick obviously laning against Huskar. You have very hard single-target physical damage
But at the same time the panel suggested Windranger
I personally think that's just a better choice overall, which begs the question why they end up going for this.
Oh, oh, got the juice already dropping. Apparently first blood goes to Malady.
You had nice things to say about clinks. Clinks immediately dies.
Is there some sort of connection here? Is there a should have picked Windranger Windranger doesn't die there?
Yeah, I mean, this is going to be a tough game for them regardless.
I feel like this is Yandex's bread and butter Wyvern and Willow again.
How many games is this team going to get this I believe socks is now eight and zero on willow this tournament. Yeah, pretty good
They get the mr. Huskar. It's two and oh
Not the most obvious Huskar game clearly. You're not playing with any of the traditional
Peering such as Dazzle or IO but still having the conference to run it of course Amar starts off the game immediate by playing the voice line
You gave all you could give but it was not enough
So already thinks this one is in the bag and be surprising knowing how this guy
ooze this confidence
But you see it across the finish line first it needs to not sell was very calm about that
I'm not gonna jinx it. He said but you could see in his eyes
Would you say the average pro player is superstitious? No
Do you think the average person is?
uh
Hmm, that's probably close actually.
I would say yes.
Maybe yes, yeah.
Somebody's always superstitious about something, even if it's very minor.
Which if pro Dota players are not superstitious, does that make them human?
You see?
Is there a point here?
Yeah, I do.
It makes no sense.
Okay.
Thank you for joining us on this TED Talk, Cinderant.
That's thinking too highly of what you said.
I don't think this would make it to TED personally.
Dead Tuck?
DB Tuck.
DB, dammit.
Not that way.
Yeah, Mark. He gets his Huskar.
We've seen this a few times this tournament,
and it's had pretty good success overall.
How is it in this game, would you say?
They said the Clink's pretty good counter to it, in theory.
Yeah.
At some point in the game.
They definitely have some tools for dealing with it.
Especially if Lina goes to the right click build,
single target physical tusk is a decent hero against tuskgar as well. You get on top of him with
tag team amplifying that damage but I just I think overall for the sake of the laning stage
this matchup is a lot worse than or a lot easier for pluscar than windranger is. You actually get
to trade with the clink so you can just hit him back and I also think looking at the bigger
picture here. I really wonder why they didn't want to go for Windrangerans. It wasn't available,
right? I'm not tripping. I feel like it wasn't the pool. Lacoste was also talking about it.
Yeah, Malady. Cold embraces. He is between two thick boys, though, who now get the short block.
Sun strike is there. As Malady will go down to the double edge.
And Watson taking a heavy beating as a result of this.
Good start in that bot lane.
Cancel the salve though.
Does it feel like Sven has also had really good success at this tournament?
Yeah, it's a strong hero right now. I think it's been undervalued overall in the entire tournament,
even though it's been picked at good amounts. It could have been run more times.
It was a really big part of Nemesis's success that they found, mainly with Sven and Tiny Carry.
carry. These explosive high burst damage carries that go in and start the fights have been looking
good as far as I'm concerned.
Yep, I would say they also have good Sunstrike set up this game for Yandex. Which last game
for Navi they did not. Storm Hammer. Sunstrike is there. Will not hit though. And PMA
sidesteps against the Hostile only up to one though. And how the Cold Embrace is
going to save Valid, which means PMA has to get out. Will live.
Just like that Sunstrike was a bit too, how to say, targeted in a direction.
I think if he threw it instantly on the Sven stuns, it was very coordinated.
I think you can throw it on top of the Centaur and he's going to die.
He has no boots obviously because he's playing with the innate of course, but...
Sunstrike?
That one's going to do it.
All right, well...
Malady gets the kill for that, so assist 4, cheer up.
Same result, just delayed and more mana cost.
Keep in mind, this time around, Chira having a much better time in the mid lane against
Alina.
Obviously a different hero this time around, yeah.
Soxa.
Gonna get Aero, this triple team now by Navi, gets off the shadow realm though and will
survive.
So wasted rotation from Navi now.
Yeah, not fully wasted.
You're slowing down the Haskar, he's starting to reach a point now where he can really
pose a threat to the clinks.
Gonna be curious to see how Lamar chooses to build this game in terms of skill build.
Puskar sometimes gets a value point in a fire, sometimes she goes 0-4-2, sometimes she goes 0-3-3, 0-3-4, like...
There's different avenues depending on what you think is more important.
But one thing remains a constant, you are an off-laner so you can farm these camps, and don't we just love to see this.
Valve, everybody is a huge fan of this.
We love it.
Yeah, I mean, I kind of fucked up this lane.
Also, I don't have to see this.
the
one that's one minute ago and then decided while the season of the
two year
, the two or one
to say that the one that days just as a
career in the way of those you can take a beating will survive as a very easy defense free index
No, I just said he missed a lot of CS and lane, he says, which is possible, like maybe he had access to more and
This is probably the only offlaner in Dota that can do this with this start
Just level 4 doing ancients off here leveraging the regen and just pulling them in a controlled manner
So 0-2 and 3 makes a ton of sense given his
is currently low HP and just wanting to farm, it's not going to fully complete it though.
But the reason this is so strong is that now you can get the legs of Sox and actually get
a better start on the Willow.
So you're effectively just recognizing that we're not winning this lane against Quints,
so this is pretty much the maximization.
Gets the cold embrace, Watson, going to stick around it seems.
though is what they have their eyes set on the storm hammer hits to the snowball and this should
be the kill of the wyvern just miss time the arctic burn terrain lock just by a bid and actually get
some kills yeah classic wyvern problems very seldom mistake for mr. malady he has been an
absolute beast not just at this turn last year he has been probably a top five support in dota
I had to very least I would say he's playing really well and he has a
I'm always saying this in some of the content as well. Malady plays everything
So whatever they think is good, you can just put this guy on it
It was very powerful when you have like letter patches like this one and meta shifts after a big tournament now
It hasn't been the biggest in the support role to be honest this time around but
If somehow Chen comes back Malady's got to pick that up if there's somehow
Which obviously everybody's hoping for a patch again where Venge 5 is good. I'm sure Malady will just rock that
Visage
All of these heroes that used to work
Just rarely see anymore
It's really depressing listening to you. Thank you so much
The one I will love you
Yeah, it's the authenticity, you know
They feel like it's relatable like I also miss my favorite heroes, but I had to landing in shadow fiend for half a year as an off laner
So unfortunately, I couldn't play half of my favorite heroes for three or four or five six months
I think people
People resonate with that, you know, I guess
Just play terribly you can play anything right
That's actually the secret you've you've beaten the game. I'm our level seven
Closing in on Armlet, what's that, 1500 away?
So he is lowest of the cores, but only barely behind the Centaur.
And if the last two games are anything to go by, and even start for Yandex, is a big advantage.
Because the game that they stomped was 24 minutes, and the game in which they got rolled in the early portion, they still found a way to win.
So even has to be considered good, until now they convince us otherwise.
They're gonna go for a big looper on this one could work on to Watson arrow
Not gonna hit Watson get stuck in the tree line the storm hammers there but PMA joins them in the north gets the double-edged heroes
Indubitably take him out stampede good to pee. I don't have the punch yet
So all of that they do get the tower now along with the very valuable kill of the Watson should mention I
mean PMA playing a centaur has been one of the best offlaners in
Offline heroes in the game right now. I was one of the best players of the tournament. I would say I think that's fair to say
But Oscar it does feel like really counter to see her home quite a bit
It's good in Centaur, yeah
One of the big benefits of having Centaur get this early heart like you're just unkillable
But with life break percentage based damage that is not the case
Malady they find him a different way I suppose
So they will get the kill eventually another awkward part about that match. Yes. Yeah
He is going to probably die here
Looks like he he might make it out of this nice
Sunstrike. Oh very good. The shard saved him
Having to turn around and throw them easy to smile on his face there
You got lucky
Yeah, another thing about the centaur vs. Huskar matchup is obviously it's really hard for centaur to kill you
Because when you get low the damage of double edge is so insignificant
You need to get Daedalus though. Yeah, that's right. I don't think PMA would do that
No, apparently neither would Amar
He was close. We were this close to greatness. He was baiting us all and they won anyway
He could have been the first Sun Tower to buy Daedalus and win because it didn't matter what he bought, he could have gotten Dagon, it doesn't matter.
I think, yeah, and with how that game ended he could have had any item in that slot.
Pressure and tower!
Locked the arrow with a forge spirit so the siege remains alive and that's probably the end of the tower.
Sure is.
Could have tapped on the deny, not gonna happen though.
And Reddy's is playing with his well
PMA has his helmet on and
Ring of Taras on the way so still will go. I mean I guess you go for it regardless
Yeah
You could make a case for maybe getting a faster blink when you're playing with planks Mirana and Lena these triple range heroes, but
It seems to be the state of the game right now that you go both.
It does feel like a pretty good Lotus game though, could have opted for that maybe.
We've seen that a couple of times.
Well, the Dostons have got the juice, one for one for the...
Look at the level discrepancy, Mars level 10!
Clink's level 8!
I mean, one delay.
Okay, interest.
Classic Jungle shenanigans and maximizing.
I guess you could spend some time on Clink's going for the bottom play through
the gate, but that can't account for a full, more than a full level advantage
Surely.
Socks are stuck inside the shards, gets off the shadow route.
Tornado gives in the hold of the space.
Delta gonna turn this around potentially with a sun strike.
Gets the leap off though.
And now the light break onto the clicks.
It should be a bigger kill.
Niku joins the party.
Look at the LSA.
Amar.
Snowball gone now.
Good deathening blast.
Nobody is dying in this fight.
Right at this yandex.
Four same rotation from Navi.
And they now have three heroes and a half HP,
which is very awkward.
knowing that their Sunstrike in the game can just get killed by a Willow Bramble, the Sunstrike almost now, on Clink and Tusk.
It's so fascinating to watch Amar, honestly. He might be the most unique player in Dota at this point, or at least from the last couple of years, for sure.
Because it's not just that he plays a lot of heroes and that he has his unique style in the offline.
It's that he will have heroes that nobody else plays and he can still threaten to ban or pick with them against elite opposition.
Like Huskar and Razor are two examples. Nobody else played them like this.
The entire tournament. He's the only offlineer running Huskar and Razor.
And seem like any given path.
Get the Bramble with the Sun Strike just like that got the juicer check.
Very little needed.
Amar, like you said, very farmed now.
He's overtaking Clinkz.
But in gold and two full levels, there goes the tower.
Soxa will take that.
Soxa's level 8 courtesy of a lot of the space he was given by Amar.
So he's also two levels ahead of the enemy supports.
is starting to look like a potentially tricky phase for Navi, he's gonna get something going.
He's gonna get double hoof stomped here.
Shira Junior though, tornado, P-Fall with the Meteor Hammer, Storm Hammer, goodbye PMA.
And that's without the lifebreak to have to worry about as a Centaur as well.
And that was never gonna be a kill for the Centaur anyway, he was just poking and
prodding and trying to bait a response and well he got one.
Not the one he wanted though.
room for Niku though they just like they do need to start getting some pick offs
here get some space forgot the juice to get a couple of items I assume it's gonna
be deso into what though dragon lands probably looks like shard obviously first
that's so shard pike eggs pretty standard I would think maybe just dragon
lands eggs we've seen that too pike is very good against Huskar though might
want to upgrade that in priority over the eggs otherwise you're just too
susceptible to being the primary target but can try to navigate around it.
Amar has his own Dragon Lance right now and looks like he's just getting
immediately upgraded to Hurricane Pike.
So, I'm just gonna be spotting some stacks in the enemy triangle, the arrow hit, what?
Excuse me?
What?
That was close.
Did we get a replay?
I saw it from my periphery, so I didn't get a direct look, but that looked way off.
Maybe I'm crazy.
I think you can maybe have a replay of that.
pretty quiet moment. Very important to look at that. There is the dagger. A pivot from
PMA. Let's see the arrow. This is really important for the game. Are you kidding me? There's no
way! It's because of the elevation I guess? But, huh, that looks way off. Insane arrow.
It must be Subtick server here. It's got the juice. Oh, they reached that. Well,
And now a mar
Good stampede. Is he gonna live?
Re-firing stairs? Yes, sticks.
Yeah, he's gonna kill the tusk and said,
Did he choose to lifebreak the clink?
It's very interesting.
Did he know? Did he have cooldown?
He'd lifebreak the tusk after.
He was definitely in rain.
He might have entered with cooldown on it from using it on the ancients maybe.
Possibly.
Wait, what's the cooldown on level 1?
16? It's possible he didn't have it.
Yeah, I mean he obviously would use it there, no.
No reason not to.
There's also no reason that arrow hit so yeah these things happen mysterious game
Gonna start believing in aliens next and UFOs yeah, that's the next step shout out to ODPixel here's the
Sad as it is to say Shannon it's starting to just look like yandex are just better
across these three games this is the makings of another solid mid game for
them and you heard excel in that coach interview saying got the Jews we haven't
or rather we he's not a clink's player and well if you're not a clink's player
is playing from behind that hero is hard to play against strong players and he
is effectively already in a position now 17 minutes in where he can barely make
mistake or he gets completely overtaken. Because yes the matchup against the Huskar is fine,
but I actually think the matchup against Sven is really bad, which is again begs the question,
was that the right selection? Sven can jump on top of you and burst you before you can even get
anything off. He gives Warcry to your entire team, which is massive amounts of armor against
Klinkz, which is super good. So you need to be a, I want to say you won't need to be a
specialist to really feel confident in that pick here. You're also playing as Wyvern,
which I think is the top three support in all of Dota against Clinkz, a lot of issues smoke from Navi
Yeah, this feels like this has to they need to get something going if nothing else than just from a raw like to
To feel like you've still got a grip on the game in some capacity
You know they spot the Wyvern looking for a potential free kill, but the tornado gonna be
It's used up to two heroes. They lose Malady question is will they lose any of their own lives?
It looks like the question that is yet
Nice combo. Oh man, beautiful set up from Chira.
I love deathling blasts that connect sun strikes where you don't use any other spells to set that up. Always very satisfying.
Chira's a beast on this hero. He's shown that all year. Watson's gonna walk into a little bug on the road and stomp on it.
I say a bug because obviously we saw that arrow.
Got the Jira's?
Caught the Jira's into the lifebreak.
Attempting that TP, that is ambitious.
Not gonna happen.
And Navi just getting pummeled in this game number three.
And if Yandex are able to continue on,
this will be their second title here at Malachi Un...
There'll be a horse first!
Yeah.
Just needed to get rid of that team
that he won seven lands with or whatever it was.
MTI, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's gonna cost Jira.
It's gonna be unhappy with that costing on the accuracy that Hamar is that farmed if he was a little bit less farmed
He would have got the kill with sunshine on clink's but true and my killed him too fast
First world problem that is
Whatever is a smaller problem than a first world problem. I think that falls into that category
Karen's problem maybe
Seems like Malady's the only hero they're killing
Amar, he wants to fight still though.
He's thinking about it.
Socks are going to be spotted.
There's the lifer going to need to pop the BKB,
Hurricane Pike to get some distance.
There's a lot of right-click damage.
Sun strike will be avoided though.
If that hits, he actually dies to the afterworld burn
afterwards from the burning spears.
Indeed.
Amar, getting chased by the snowball,
this will certainly not connect.
Well, who's getting into an ice wall?
Oh no, they also caught the planks.
They threw the planks.
There's the lifeprank as well with the Hurricane Pike.
from long range eats a creep and he will fall to a neutral so that is one silver lining for Navi i
suppose the centaur is dead though and this is just a disaster regardless of that nice deny
the index still getting pretty much everything that they want ready is next on the list
goodbye man this is going to be one of the teams to watch this year well both of these
These teams really are, because Navi have definitely leveled up significantly, but they are meeting their masters in this finals.
Yeah, I'm glad they made the grand... I mean, this is a good experience. Absolutely.
I mean, you enter this tournament, you go into this tournament, you ask Navi before it starts, would you guys take second place?
I'm sure they would have said, hell yeah. They barely even made a top 8 for a long time in a competitive environment like this.
So getting to the finals, obviously, massively overperforming expectations.
watching don't screw this up screw up the toggles he dies here i'll buy you a house
all right replay snowball into ice path very quick on the tumblers toy before taking damage but
yeah this pike i mean disgusting that is gross what a way to die and impressive that he managed to
die to the one creep that wasn't even on purpose he wasn't even trying so it's just farming
That's a tough play.
Great play from Gata Juice.
Sometimes you get a little lucky.
And it feels like luck might be necessary at this point for Navi.
This is an impressive run though. If Yandex isn't finishing this as a 3-0,
two single game losses in an entire tournament, I'm trying to remember.
Yeah, and it's a long one, right? It's Swiss into double LIM.
Yeah, who who has done that before I would love to see stats on this. That's insane
I remember at least one land where the team lost one game. I don't know if I've ever seen a clean sweep tournament
At least not with double I remember a team making it to a grand finals with zero losses, but then they lost the grand
But that might have been a long time ago. It's tough to remember especially at my old age
It's definitely a rarity to do it with two losses if that is how it ends up which looks overwhelmingly likely at this point
another bramble
Yeah, you can see Navi. They're kind of huddled together just
Scared about getting jumped. Well, okay
The punch initiation from Gaze, no back up yet though
What was-
We're gonna get snowballed into an ice ball and it will sacrifice himself to the gods
This god's name is Chira Jr.
Oh, we can get a replay of that camera shot just head-in-hands laughing is like what what what am I doing?
Which is what I was feeling like seeing that play. His teammates were 2,000 ranger when he blink initiates.
Seems like we're reaching the point of delusion.
Watson will take that tower.
Yeah, Burnley talked about him too much, but Daedalus is next.
There finds himself a fat juicy horse, but also the clings is there and terrorizing the same
I'll say he will fall to a mutual party. They can't get anything to go their way
It's a tie on the controls kills PMA
Might be traded in the end. He's gonna shout around through the gate
Well, they use an essence distiller to spot him. He's healed up quite a bit though and mar on the prowl chased
Hudson in God's transform right now.
Do we have enough damage to burst through here with a life break?
Oh my girls!
My-
Oh my, how does he die there?
He has a crystal, so it's not even a full Daedalus yet.
That feels bad for Navi.
At least he's lounging though.
He was lounging in his chair with a smile on his face.
I think they're just, honestly it feels like Navi's players are kind of in like, what can you do mode?
Yeah, really.
And if it is a shame, you know you get to the grand finals and you're hoping you're like you start dreaming a little bit
Can you do it? But this is just oh
That was a critical last swing
Let's see the lounge. Oh, yeah, that's good. Can you guess the two losses? Do you remember I want to get so Rora?
Yeah, and one against mouse day one. Oh, you're like a robot
That mouse one was very surprising.
Cinder and GPT, could you tell me how many people exist on Earth right now?
About 8 billion.
That's not exact.
The Sun Strike is exact from here.
Clean hit.
Cinder and GPT, can you tell me the Sun Strike percentage?
Uh, let's think, 71?
Okay, production.
We need to look at our sources, not even, god damn you're bad.
Wait, how many did he just miss between the last one and this one?
He was 67 on the last time they showed it.
Chief, this is low.
Don't listen to GPTs, ladies and gentlemen, check your sources.
If that's what the world is learning from this, I am so happy to be wrong.
But the Cinder and GPT seems to be even, it actually curses you sometimes.
It's terrible.
You gotta...
What have I paid for?
You gotta check your sources.
Cancel the subscription right now.
Whatever you paid for this, it was not worth it.
I pay for it in love and support and that is not worth making.
Oh my God!
Double kill for Watson!
Oh, Daedalus reveal.
And now the high ground, 19k lead for Yandex.
Ages for another 30 onto a mars,
and he's going to be on the front lines for now.
Puts down, not the Roche banner.
That's a different type of banner.
It is more for a taunting.
It's the creep wave banner.
from his first team, I think.
Oh, is that right?
It is.
It's going to be a full set in the mid.
Only question is, will they stay?
They shall not, as the Aegis is expiring now.
And he has an Agam Scepter, so taunt online for Amar.
Just jump the clings with BKB on and deal with him.
There's no counter play except snowball.
He can't get stampied away.
This feels like a last-stitch effort for Navi.
Yeah, last fight of the game for them,
unless they pull up some magic here.
Chira might just break them out with Ghost Walk.
And next, they feel like something is up.
S.S. DeSilar on Watson right now.
There's the God's Crank.
Snowball saved for now.
He's already at half HP, taking a ton of damage,
but the full of Racer's gonna save him.
Amar, the lead's got the juice
from the face of the map.
And now you can see Niku completely surrounded.
He gets parts of SGG and Yandex.
They get their second title here at PGL, Malakia.
Really impressive though, I have to say.
Two single game losses in an entire tournament?
That's a fact.
Looking at the player cameras, I don't even
know which team has happened.
It's like Navi are maybe happy to get second
and Yandex are with winning.
What a bizarre situation to be in, but here we are.
Yeah, honestly, in conclusion in this tournament,
Yandex, they perform to expectations
and Navi overperform.
So you could say, Navi has every right
to be happier than the winners here,
but this was the God team to beat and nobody started chance.
Nobody touched them at all.
I mean, I'm excited for Na'Vi to get this experience
and we'll see what they look like as the year progresses,
but this team is super scared.
As we come to the finals here,
your PGL Galahia Season 9 champions are Yandex.
Team Yandex, you have done it.
You are the Grand Champions of Black Year Season 9.
Congrats.
Let me first get a word with Mr. XL.
Who would you stand out as your MVP from your team
for this Grand Finals?
Fulhamar, obviously.
It's his first tournament with Yandex,
then first with Robin, so I'm super proud of him.
Absolutely.
Mr. Malady, come over here.
How does it feel to win the first tournament of the season?
I feel very grateful that my teammates carry me.
I mean, you had some excellent games in this Grand Flandre. You were owning on this winter. You still give the credit to them?
Yes, of course. I give credit to my two main characters, Amar the Flacker and Watson Dotto.
Watson Dotto indeed. Well, congratulations, Watson. I mean, do you feel like the best character of the season so far?
Right now?
Yeah.
I don't know.
You'll see.
I don't want to play.
The big boys still to come, but still huge congrats.
I mean, that game too was really, really close.
It was looking a little scary for a while.
How did you come back into that one?
Um, Omar just went in triangle, killed Lina and the ATP one by one and then we just come back.
After this game was pretty much easy.
Yeah, you guys pulled off some magic in that one. Congratulations and cheer a junior. Congrats. How was it playing mid lane versus the young Niko?
One time I got forced on pango, but other times it was not felt.
I didn't want to know how did your team react to that second game. What were they saying? Were they giving you a little bit of a rough time or were they just like, ah, it's fine, get on with it?
Nothing, I just said I will not pango into lane anymore.
Parod, don't run that one back again, well, looking back on some of your performances of this tournament,
is there any game particularly where you look back on and go, yeah, that was a great performance for me?
What was your personal favourite game of the tournament?
Maybe one.
Why?
We just tried them previous season for whole year.
Just this game, this series.
They're just our, I don't know how to say, personal enemies.
Well, you took them down very early on, so congratulations.
Hello, Amar.
Do you still feel like a stand-in?
That's what you told me when you qualified to the playoffs.
Well, it's more news to this than right now.
But definitely, it's the real deal going to be after.
Because, you know, this time we're going to be over now.
It is going to be a second.
That is true.
There's always more tournaments in the year.
But that's no question for you.
There was an interesting thing in your quick buy
for one of these games, that Daedalus.
Did you decide not to build that, or did somebody else polite your quest you not to build that Daedalus?
No, I mean, I just clicked by some random shit.
And just because I bought Daedalus once on Necrophos, it was good.
So like, now I have Daedalus in my TP slot.
And yeah, that's why it's like a faster click by, you know, you just click by the Daedalus.
Damn, so, Sensor Daedalus was never going to be a thing.
Ah, this is Daedalus, I guess I can see it.
Okay, alright, cool, cool, cool.
Well, do you have any message for the teams which are watching this right now from home who decided to skip this tournament,
who you are going to be facing pretty shortly in this season?
Well, first I hope they get fucked by me, obviously, and hope every tournament will be M&S for teams.
We'll just throw everyone on and I will break my team Falcons record and we'll be better on the Olympics.
Well, this is the right way to start it. Congratulations, Amar. And finally, Saxa. I mean, again, you know, this team, they've been through a lot, but with Amar, you've got to manage to take the first game or the first tournament of the season. How are you feeling after all this?
Obviously great. Some of the big boys are still, like, not playing, so, you know, we are still, I think, humble to some extent, and we understand that the big challenge is going to come soon.
come soon but starting this way in a very convincing fashion I guess it feels great.
I'm glad to hear that and what kind of mentality did you try to install on these guys coming into
this tournament? Just play Dota, you go in check and just destroy enemies.
Well that certainly seemed to work for you and how do you think this win is going to affect
your trajectory throughout the rest of the year? It's a nice start and I think it's going to
give us some confidence going into the next tournaments. Hopefully the season is half
as smooth as this, so we will see. And finally, any words for your opponents, Navi, taking that second place?
Yeah, they almost had us in game two. I think if they had some better drafts they could have put
up more of a challenge. I think they did good coming all this way and I think the young team,
they have still a lot to prove so I think they can do better, a lot better from here on out so looking forward to it.
All right thank you very much Saqsa and thank you very much Yandex one more time give it up for your winners of Wallachia season 9 team Yandex!
What a fantastic start to the season, a 14 Yandex taking this championship in what seemed like the smoothest way ever
only dropping two games across the entire tournament.
Maybe Navi made them sweat a little bit in game two,
but even that was, to be honest,
it feels already so long ago.
Was it even that big of a lead?
You started doubt yourself, Lacoste.
This looked like this was in the start of the long.
Yeah, it does feel.
I think everybody, after seeing the teams understood
that Yandex does seem like a hard caliber team,
they did give them a very good challenge
that second game but overall it does feel like they're just in a different
level the way they've been picking the way they've been playing this team just
it's for older teammates of course and Amar now joining with the team gelling in
the world together immediately and I also like the way like in Soxa talked
about Amar in an interview that he's gonna be coming new collapse as well
which is a high praise and he also gets the lane with that guy which
gives you quite a lot of confidence coming into the tournament coming into
season in 2026 2027 yeah quick shout out by the way I think this is the the coolest looking trophy
thus far yeah it is it's very cool of course no spearfrag here in this game but it's uh it's
very cool looks like a normal sized cup in the hands of the Saksa onwards I'm just scared for
the entire competitive season because of last year they can win 25% of the tournaments that they attend
yeah what percentage is that going to be this year for Yandex like yeah 40% they look
They look 50%? Yeah, they look insane. Like, especially, obviously, he's been talked about the entire tournament, Amar has slotted in incredibly well to this team, you know, going from TI, slotted into a new team and just immediately winning it, but not just like, like, this is a statement win.
You're kind of just dumpstering most of your opponents, you're owning most of your lanes. He's playing stuff no one else is. I think that's the cool thing also you need to take away from this tournament is that Amar has always been unique, and I think he will always stay this way.
I feel like it's also the balance of like knowing what he wants to play and it's not like Amar has to play Yandex Dota
They've got this instant synergy of like we're gonna play Amar's Dota and Yandex Dota at the same time and it's working
Like the fact that there's no like little colt that's not spinning correctly
It's like that is the bit that scares me for this season. Yeah, and it feels like regardless like they of course
They made every team they played this tournament
They they made them look a tier below them
But it does feel a cause that they had that respect going in every time especially when you consider the drafts
they went for? Absolutely it did feel that every single time when they're drafting they always have
the upper hand whether they have or they don't have the last pick overall they already set the trap
and it feels like the pick that you have on 24 it's not really as impactful and we can take a
look at the bracket it does feel like they didn't really sweat at all Aurora they won that one game
but it's not like anyone came close to potentially winning the best of three and in best of five
They looked way too dominant. Yeah, just a team. I think that's really hard to stop
Like you also heard see why I talk about it in one of the like pregame interviews where it's like
Yeah, we got all drafted, but it's just really hard to pick against these guys
Yeah, so access on if you don't know this hero melody in winter wherever you can give it to him
I'm are you can ban four heroes and then he still has Viper raise a Oscar. It's it's just difficult
I also want to I want to take a quick moment to still highlight
here because they did fight so well. They did. If you asked them before coming to this tournament,
they would probably be happy with like top six finishes. Even getting into the playoffs would
be great achievements in them, considering how bad some of the previous seasons were for them.
But this is the team that decided to stick together, change one player. And I just really
love the vibes of this team. I feel like they're a great addition to Dota. I'm really glad
they're sticking together because they showed some great performances and I
want to see how well they're going to be doing playing against like the higher
caliber teams as well because this team just keeps improving with each game that
they play. Yeah that's going to be the true test. I mean they also eliminated Aurora,
XG and LGD and I think these are three of the teams that will be fighting to
make it to the final days in future tournaments. There'll be kind of that
fringe like six to eight place team that on a good day suddenly they're
there. If Navi's beating them today if they can maintain that in the
future they will be fighting up against Shandex. Fnatic said Na'Vi was their kryptonite. It
didn't show in this finals. Only in one game. But they still showed a lot of respect before
the grand finals going like this. We know Na'Vi can play good Dota and there's something
that's a little missing within the camp. But once they find it, they will probably
be making a couple more runs in future tournaments.
Yeah, they struggle with that consistency a little bit in the past. But maybe after
this one, they'd have to play so many games to get to this point to begin with.
Maybe that consistency is a set now because it was solved.
Yeah, I do think that this is just a team where you can say that they need more time.
They are the youngest players on the scene and one of the youngest teams on the scene as well,
in terms of age at least. So you can always just go and say, you know, that this grand finals is
good for them. They need more experience because you can tell that they are missing a
little bit of like the confidence in like the bigger games against the better teams. So
you know, only time will tell, but this team, let's want to watch.
Yeah, the confidence is definitely not lacking on the side of Yandex.
They steamrolled this Valachia season nine and they are our champions.
And it has come to the final day, then the final moments here of this tournament.
So I'd love to hear you guys' thoughts on the last nine days.
Yeah, it's been great, as always.
Valakia, something that's magical about this tournament,
because it always produces insanely high quality games, good storylines.
Like we saw it from the start, we saw it in the second Valakia as well.
When Heroic did win, it did kind of put them, push them into that tier one
team kind of and also after this one we can definitely say that Navi they do
belong to this tier one as well and they're really glad that because every
single time the games that we're seeing and during Valakia they've been top
notch. Yeah I think for me too I think just seeing different teams like the fact
that we had teams break up at TI and now you have multiple different teams like
do well go plays high in this tournament because even for me like an XG you
know they got pretty far in this tournament so they did bomb out at
end. But all in all, you know, great games. We're seeing different stuff like I'm not having his
own take on the offlane. I think it's amazing. This is the start of a season where hopefully
the regions that have been a bit more quiet in the last year will go, you know what, we are
trying to put up a fight like North America game of Legion did okay. You know, XG as well that
you just mentioned, trying to step up. So I'm really hoping that this is a year where
Eastern European Dota won't just be dominant once again. And it will be this like
international space of like, no, we're ready to put up a fight against these big teams.
Yeah, and with that I mean this one is the first Dota 2 tournament of the season in the books and of course for PGL
It was the last Dota 2 tournament
Of the year. Don't worry guys. The next one will be in 2027
So make sure you you lock that in your calendar march
Season 10 coming your way
But this one was that was fantastic and a lot of teams to keep an eye out for for the coming season
a lot of storylines were set up and who knows where the chips fall for any of the teams that we
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