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04-23-2026 · 1h 21m

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[00:08:00] Oh
[00:10:00] Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to first touch. It's
[00:10:06] Dazarin and Rollediz. No bass today, but listen, we got a party that's going to happen today
[00:10:12] for sure. But to start us off, we got NRG in the building, Beast Mode and Satu with
[00:10:17] us, gentlemen. Welcome to the show. Thank you for being on.
[00:10:20] Of course. Thank you for having me.
[00:10:22] It is. Listen, how are we feeling today, man? How are you doing?
[00:10:27] Doing good man. We got we got the Kings of North America
[00:10:30] They back on top and now they over here our first touch to give us a inside scoop on
[00:10:35] Hopefully it's not another one of these can't really tell you what what what what we have going on behind the scenes
[00:10:42] You know Matthew you better tell us something man. I didn't hear something
[00:10:50] It's on us it's on us
[00:10:53] Listen start by running us through this
[00:10:55] Paris open the split, so to speak, right? Of course, it's been, it hasn't been the
[00:11:02] cleanest year for you guys, but I mean, that's because you guys have made it so hard to have
[00:11:09] it be a clean year because you guys keep winning. That being said, you know, you, you miss
[00:11:14] out on a couple of finals, couple of regionals. What, what are the conversations like for
[00:11:18] you to kind of get ready for this event?
[00:11:20] Yeah, so, I mean, honestly, like you said, we saw her off pretty slow. I think definitely some motivational issues. Definitely some.
[00:11:31] Actual like strategic issues, just execution and practice issues, but.
[00:11:36] Realistically, too, the region did get better. I think the region consolidated. Well, I think we got some good players playing with each other that we didn't necessarily have in the 1st split. We didn't have the absolute best consolidation that we needed.
[00:11:49] So, you know, the level raised a bit. So, yeah, we kind of had to have a little bit of a lock in. We had to talk about kind of what we're doing quite a bit.
[00:12:02] We had some very key strategic changes, even on that, that like Thursday night before going into Friday.
[00:12:10] And yeah, we, I don't know, we just kind of, we put it together and kind of remembered a bit who we are and kind of brought back some.
[00:12:18] some things that made NRG NRG. So yeah.
[00:12:23] Okay. Okay. Uh, I mean, when you guys obviously go through, uh,
[00:12:29] you're preparing for, you know, the Paris major and the world championships.
[00:12:33] I mean, B-Smo for you, like, what is it like being in, you know,
[00:12:37] you're in a position where you're normally having these things kind of
[00:12:40] qualified very early,
[00:12:42] but having to go out and kind of like work for it again. I mean,
[00:12:46] what's your mindset when you get into that situation?
[00:12:48] Um, yeah, I mean, definitely, like, yeah, we're definitely used to obviously quantify
[00:12:53] for early after the, you know, second reason for sure, you know, going to third reason obviously
[00:12:58] adds a lot of pressure, but it also like, you know, keeps us motivated for sure.
[00:13:02] Um, definitely, you know, keeps that, um, yeah, just keeps that motivation and just,
[00:13:06] you know, it's obviously it's another challenge to go through with a team and,
[00:13:10] you know, obviously to prove everyone wrong and, um, them and that's, that's, uh,
[00:13:15] it's about it for that.
[00:13:17] That is about it for now.
[00:13:19] OK, so in terms of competition in the region right now,
[00:13:22] what do you think your toughest competition is coming from?
[00:13:24] Obviously, you know, Space Station gaming's been on the rise.
[00:13:26] Rebellion's changed up their style a bit.
[00:13:28] They look pretty good.
[00:13:30] Who's who's the toughest challenge for you?
[00:13:33] Yeah. Oh, sorry.
[00:13:35] You want to go?
[00:13:36] Yeah, sure. I mean, yeah, I'll go then you go.
[00:13:39] But no, I mean, I think shop, like you said,
[00:13:42] does has really stepped it up since first split.
[00:13:44] like they stylistically look completely different, which I'm like happy to see.
[00:13:48] I think internationally that'll work a lot better.
[00:13:51] But SSG kind of looked like they're old sales from last year, which is like a good thing for them,
[00:13:55] I think. I think they look comfortable with Scribbles. Foot obviously gave us some trouble
[00:14:00] throughout the split. I think we kind of have come around in knowing how to approach them,
[00:14:06] but we had a lot of respect for them coming into the split. So that's what I'm saying,
[00:14:09] they're all good. I think shop is still who I'm looking at as like the clear,
[00:14:14] I guess I'll say two, even though SSG had points on them, but that's kind of where I'm at.
[00:14:21] Yeah, I mean, I completely agree. I think, yeah, shop is definitely the clear second, but I mean,
[00:14:26] I think foot is definitely, I'm interested to see how they do on land, but I think they're a
[00:14:31] team that has their number definitely with their play style. I wouldn't say like,
[00:14:36] we're afraid or anything like that. I just think the way they play with,
[00:14:39] You know, I think they're very like defensive encounter attack heavy team.
[00:14:43] So like, um, they're really, they're, they're the team that, you know,
[00:14:46] the force, the most mistakes out of us, just the way they play and they're probably
[00:14:50] the most annoying to play out of everybody.
[00:14:51] But yeah, it's just, I'm excited to see this major with, with, especially
[00:14:55] with all the regionals, the regionals, the regions, uh, with how everybody
[00:14:59] look, it's just all over the place.
[00:15:00] And like, you know, and he's going to do, uh, I don't know, it's
[00:15:03] going to be, it's going to be interesting to see how I do it.
[00:15:05] The, the land for sure.
[00:15:06] You guys, we're sending our best for.
[00:15:09] Yeah, I think so.
[00:15:11] I think you can kind of make an argument for bird as I think we're sending the best for.
[00:15:16] Yeah, good.
[00:15:19] No, I was gonna say, I feel like that's like a lot of question because it's like, you, I feel like the answer is yes, role, but I feel like, but like, but people be lying that we, we
[00:15:30] And then our fourth place team goes out like.
[00:15:33] But that's what I'm saying.
[00:15:34] You can sit in the best four, but that's
[00:15:36] going to be the best four are going to do the, you know what
[00:15:38] I mean?
[00:15:39] No, but sometimes people would be like, yeah,
[00:15:40] we're sitting in our best four.
[00:15:41] They're just trying to be nice.
[00:15:42] And then the fourth place team just gets washed at the land
[00:15:45] and we're like, oh, was it really our best fourth?
[00:15:47] Or our fourth best?
[00:15:49] Yeah.
[00:15:49] Yeah.
[00:15:50] Like that one season, that first Boston,
[00:15:52] like did we truly send our best five then?
[00:15:54] No, that was definitely a case where we didn't.
[00:15:57] So it happens.
[00:15:59] But I think this time we did.
[00:16:01] I do think we did.
[00:16:02] I do respect Veritas,
[00:16:03] but I think Floyd showed really good things this split.
[00:16:06] Yeah, I agree.
[00:16:09] What's been the, I'll start with Matt,
[00:16:12] but I want both of your takes on this.
[00:16:14] What's been the hardest challenge
[00:16:15] for you guys this season?
[00:16:18] I think just keeping that drive up, honestly.
[00:16:21] I think it takes a lot.
[00:16:23] I mean, most teams, you know,
[00:16:24] blow it up after a year, honestly.
[00:16:27] Two years, it's guaranteed.
[00:16:29] three years that's like uncharted waters at this point.
[00:16:32] So it's kind of navigating kind of the issues
[00:16:35] that come along with the third year team.
[00:16:37] So motivations of thing, obviously,
[00:16:41] just the more you're with each other,
[00:16:43] like players and coach, it's like the more little things
[00:16:46] will pop up and just navigating all those,
[00:16:48] like those tiny, tiny little things,
[00:16:51] whether it's like, I don't like how you made this player.
[00:16:53] I don't like how you said that,
[00:16:55] like that stuff that doesn't necessarily exist,
[00:16:57] You know, when you're kind of in that honeymoon phase and early within a team, but so just kind of establishing, like, honestly, just very healthy culture and stuff has been the biggest thing.
[00:17:06] So, yeah, yeah, I mean, I can, I completely agree with that. I mean, uh, yeah, like, especially as all teams are getting better, uh, or that honeymoon phase, I would say it's much harder to have.
[00:17:19] You know, that drive and all these teams are, you know, are, you know, different. Like I said, have that honeymoon. So it's going to be harder for us. But.
[00:17:26] I think, yeah, just having that drive and just willing to work with each other and just
[00:17:31] realizing that we are still, I mean, I believe that we're still all three of the best in
[00:17:36] A, so we've got to prove it and just keep working together.
[00:17:39] And I think that's something that we obviously, especially after one of the worlds I've struggled
[00:17:45] with a bit, but just keep working on it and keep pushing with each other is what
[00:17:49] I would say.
[00:17:50] Yeah, that's right.
[00:17:51] Yeah.
[00:17:52] I'll go ahead.
[00:17:53] Yeah.
[00:17:54] And just like keeping that like humble like mentality as well, it's hard to, especially,
[00:18:00] you know, any teams don't win too much in like just historically, so to like come back
[00:18:05] to the region and keep our heads and be like, look, these guys are all still worth our respect.
[00:18:10] And we got to, you know, if we don't keep that mentality up, we're going to be in a
[00:18:13] lot of trouble.
[00:18:14] And you saw sports of that throughout the split.
[00:18:17] So yeah.
[00:18:18] That's fair.
[00:18:19] That's fair.
[00:18:20] That's fair. That's fair. I wanted to kind of go back to international here for a second. So
[00:18:28] like we said, we answered the question if you're sitting the best for, but
[00:18:32] where how do you feel about the strength of them in the international stage? It's going to be,
[00:18:37] you know, some new faces, R8 is going to be there. I want to get your thoughts on them a
[00:18:41] little later. And then, you know, you're still getting like, well, we'll see how the rest of
[00:18:46] Europe kind of qualifies throughout the weekend, but you're expecting, you know, hopefully the
[00:18:51] five best coming out of Europe. Uh, how do you feel like I like, I like that. You mentioned RA. I
[00:18:56] like that. I like that. I'm sure you do. I'm sure you do. But like, how do you feel about like, uh,
[00:19:01] the region stance in any international competition? There's so much to play for
[00:19:06] for every region. So I feel like it is going to be kind of a battle there in Paris.
[00:19:09] Yeah, I mean falcons not being there though is like kind of that that's a big
[00:19:16] Like almost nastric on the on the major because despite obviously r8 deserve their their place over them
[00:19:22] It's still falcons. It's still the twins. It's still drawly like it's gonna be weird to be at a major without them and like the modern like
[00:19:30] Rock of the Gara so
[00:19:33] I'm expecting
[00:19:34] Still like a very very high-level major, but it is gonna be weird without Falcons there honestly. Yeah
[00:19:41] So you think it's gonna be a little a little dip?
[00:19:44] I think
[00:19:51] He's he's he's disgusting that that whole roster guys. He's great. You know
[00:19:58] Yeah, they're they're a great roster
[00:20:00] It's just weird to not have Falcons on land like they show up at land consistently
[00:20:07] So that that's that's what I'm really trying to say. It's not that they deserve to be
[00:20:11] But yeah, I got you. I got you. Yeah
[00:20:17] I don't know. I don't know where we're gonna say like and he's gonna stand on a sleeve there
[00:20:20] I don't know. Is there a specific like team or a
[00:20:25] a matchup that you guys are like anticipating going into that major that you're like heavily set on
[00:20:31] preparing for it. I'd like you to guess which one would be for us. What matchup that would be?
[00:20:39] Vitality. Yeah. It's always got to be. Yeah. You guys always play that.
[00:20:47] And we don't have the greatest record against that core. So yeah, that's always going to be the
[00:20:53] the one for us, I think.
[00:20:57] OK, that's fair.
[00:20:58] You guys keep eyes on things around the world outside of like
[00:21:03] well, I guess it's like outside of North America.
[00:21:05] I know we talk about Mina, but, you know, you're a
[00:21:08] you have like a idea of what's going on over there.
[00:21:11] Yeah, we watch European replays together like as a team
[00:21:14] from time to time.
[00:21:16] We'll go over and see what kind of they're doing.
[00:21:20] Oh, see, after that, I feel like the rest of the team.
[00:21:22] I don't know, Mo, do you, do you really watch Sam or OCE or APEC at all?
[00:21:27] Not really.
[00:21:28] I mean, we watched a little bit of oceanic or ocean together.
[00:21:32] What does it look with the, with their matches, but yeah,
[00:21:36] we really don't keep up with anybody outside of like EU personally.
[00:21:39] So I'm a hunter fan at OCE.
[00:21:41] That's, that's, that's what I was a Bulldogs fan.
[00:21:46] Yeah.
[00:21:46] Yeah.
[00:21:46] Yeah.
[00:21:46] Yeah.
[00:21:46] Yeah.
[00:21:48] I was sad.
[00:21:48] They were close.
[00:21:49] They were close.
[00:21:49] I was rooting for them.
[00:21:51] Yeah.
[00:21:52] Okay, any
[00:21:55] Any early obviously we have a you open six happening this weekend any early predictions or who you think's gonna win?
[00:22:03] Think it's mates down top. Yeah. Yeah, I think may say I'm taught to use like I
[00:22:08] Don't know. They're all over the place as well. So like I don't I don't I don't see like the same what when I'm watching
[00:22:13] I don't see like the same
[00:22:14] Like instincts instincts that they're playing with I think they're all like they'd like like especially like karma
[00:22:19] I think they're playing a little different right now than what they're used to.
[00:22:22] Yeah, I agree.
[00:22:23] I mean, I don't even think general mates are playing that crazy.
[00:22:27] I just think they're the best team in the year right now.
[00:22:29] But I just think all reasons they're all over the place.
[00:22:32] So but yeah, I think general mates are probably just going to stay on top.
[00:22:37] OK, mates on top.
[00:22:39] I mean, did you get any more questions for him?
[00:22:42] I mean, just lastly, like where if you could rank the regions top to bottom,
[00:22:47] how would you rank them?
[00:22:49] like all. So just like their average strength or like peak strength or what do we think?
[00:22:53] Yeah, like like this average overall. So probably probably you won. Yeah.
[00:22:59] You think so? What? What do you think? I'm not thinking it and they want to right now. Yeah,
[00:23:04] I'm not going to lie to you. I just I every time we say that we're
[00:23:09] every time after placement is going to be like last year. We're body that lead so but
[00:23:13] I don't I don't hate that show. It's just I I mean, maybe I see it. Yeah, I kind of want to say we're actually the worst region
[00:23:23] So maybe that'll you know, gas it
[00:23:32] We need to get something going but I would play you one I understand that
[00:23:37] Yeah, I don't like it and then what I guess so after because then I'd be like Mina
[00:23:46] After like you and I and then Sam maybe
[00:23:51] Yeah, probably Sam although they look all right too. How does it? Yeah, you guys know I am my BR looks having
[00:23:58] I haven't watched my Sam. I don't know. I mean they won one of the regionals. Yeah, they did
[00:24:02] Yeah, they're pretty close to like struffle furia. Yeah, it's pretty even over there. So yeah, I'd probably say Sam
[00:24:10] Yeah, and then
[00:24:13] Oce because I think wild card definitely are a good representative to send. I think it's a better representative than power to send and then
[00:24:22] Probably a pack and then SSA. I think I agree. Yeah
[00:24:27] Yeah, that's not bad. Yes. Um, that's how you, uh, I'll just scrolling through my IG
[00:24:37] and I saw you commenting on one of Ray's bulls a little more time.
[00:24:39] It's the algorithms weird. Sometimes I just find they get a race bull like real for
[00:24:47] like, listen, he's looking clean. He's looking clean. It might be hard to look clean.
[00:24:50] So yeah, we respect them. We respect them. Yeah. Yeah. They have their final open
[00:24:55] same as their final in season open this weekend. And, um, that, well, we'll see how they do.
[00:25:01] Maybe in my BR, take the win, take the onesie for Sam going into it, shake up things, but
[00:25:06] right now fears looked really solid as well. So it'll definitely be very interesting to see
[00:25:13] how things go. But, um, before I let you go, what I do something that we don't normally do,
[00:25:18] beast mode, I've got a play from the last open in the grand finals where you guys play
[00:25:24] Letting a space station gaming. It was game five SSG had a good lead on you guys.
[00:25:29] But you guys had a great playoff.
[00:25:30] The kickoff on it went up. I think four three to tie it back up.
[00:25:33] Do you mind walking us through that play with a little tell us for your segment?
[00:25:38] No, no, let's get into it. All right, let's go whenever you're ready.
[00:25:42] All right. So yeah, I think to start off this, this, you know,
[00:25:45] this game, it wasn't obviously going well.
[00:25:47] We were down three one and then they, we scored one and then they scored another.
[00:25:50] So yeah, down 4-2 basically, but a nice little comeback.
[00:25:54] But I will say, I don't think people
[00:25:59] realize how important the kickoff is.
[00:26:01] I was saying this play.
[00:26:02] I think Sathie's the one who used to cover kickoff.
[00:26:04] So we actually went for basically lose the ball
[00:26:10] onto our side, and the cheater kind of cheats
[00:26:14] and gambles where the ball is.
[00:26:15] So I'll play it for just a second.
[00:26:17] So ball is it right there?
[00:26:19] Oh, let me restart that.
[00:26:20] Sorry.
[00:26:21] How you going?
[00:26:23] So like right there, you see that Tomo's car is point like that way
[00:26:27] so I can lose it and then I'm treated hard.
[00:26:29] So just be ready for the play in general.
[00:26:32] Just be ready for what's to come.
[00:26:35] And so basically, I just go for the ball.
[00:26:37] I get a nice little demo, which clears up the space.
[00:26:40] Dan gets a nice little hit to the wall, which obviously,
[00:26:43] since that kickoff happened, we have a lot of pressure
[00:26:45] and a lot of, you know, a lot of momentum.
[00:26:50] Nice little pass here from Dan on the wall.
[00:26:52] Actually, I will pause that right there.
[00:26:55] Actually, can I go back at all?
[00:26:57] Do I have to restart it to go back?
[00:26:59] There we go, there we go, right there, perfect.
[00:27:01] Thank you, thank you.
[00:27:02] So yeah, Tom did pre-jump it,
[00:27:05] but he obviously did go a little bit too forward.
[00:27:07] So he kind of improvised here.
[00:27:08] He like, he turned his car back.
[00:27:10] And honestly, like it was,
[00:27:12] I'll play it for just a second and pause it.
[00:27:14] Like he, like he honestly passed it, not right, right in the middle.
[00:27:18] Like I think it's always like his passes and his playmaking is insane.
[00:27:21] Like if not the best in the world.
[00:27:22] So like this was a crazy pass because he did like, if he hits it right here to
[00:27:26] the middle, you'll see that reveal is going here into them, like into the,
[00:27:29] uh, into the ball, but he can't reach it.
[00:27:31] So because of the way the timeline passes and then, um, like that reveal
[00:27:36] went through the, went for the ball, but he can't reach it.
[00:27:39] Yeah.
[00:27:39] Yeah, and so since obviously atomic passes this way
[00:27:43] I had to like shoot it weird and then I should I like I'd you know hit with my the back of my card and it's perfect
[00:27:48] Speed for
[00:27:50] Diaz not to get it. So yeah, it was a very unique and obviously orthodox like play is it's not like I
[00:27:56] Would definitely say like the way the play went is not like the normal play were used to so it was definitely weird and
[00:28:01] Yeah, really really good play overall to kind of you know, keep the momentum pushing and and yeah tie the game up
[00:28:09] the adjustment. Atomic Maid was insane, but like how quick was the calm for him to go from
[00:28:16] like maybe you anticipating him taking a shot to him saying I'm passing? Like how quick
[00:28:21] was it communicated? It was like it was super quick to be honest. Like, I mean, basically
[00:28:26] as soon as Dan hit the ball, like right there, like soon as Dan hit the ball, like
[00:28:29] he was ready for it. And Tom is like so good about that too. Like at Worlds, I
[00:28:33] remember like, like he called like he called passing players like I literally like
[00:28:37] five to like seven seconds really happened like he's just very good at
[00:28:40] seeing the play so yeah yeah but he called it as soon as like a day hit the
[00:28:43] ball which is honestly pretty that's insane pretty insane yeah so yeah very
[00:28:48] smart man and then you're like listening to the comms as obviously
[00:28:53] things go on you call the play are you kind of like expecting what you end up
[00:28:59] like seeing on the screen as you're like listening through like is that you
[00:29:02] know that I'm not gonna say that how you draw it up but it's like when
[00:29:06] these plays happen like how like what is it like just like watching it in real
[00:29:10] time? I mean majority of the game yes it's like that's how like our general
[00:29:15] play looks is like what I'm expecting now sometimes you know when when things get
[00:29:19] desperate and we kind of need some magic like no I'm never gonna say I drew
[00:29:23] up what just what we just like that's crazy that's that's individual
[00:29:29] brilliance and that's just something that is a result I think of us you
[00:29:33] you know, playing the way we are through a majority of the game and maybe the confidence
[00:29:38] we build through playing that way, but no, specifically with that, I mean, that's just
[00:29:43] that's that's the flair that, you know, the players are allowed in our system from time
[00:29:47] to time. So, um, yeah, they showed up and did their thing and then for me, uh, you
[00:29:54] guys pull off plays like this time and time again. It's not the first time you've
[00:29:58] done it. And then there's been more times where it's been in the clutch moments
[00:30:02] where you need to score, you know, like zero seconds or final few seconds.
[00:30:07] When you when you guys get a goal like that,
[00:30:09] is the energy like a big, huge momentum boost?
[00:30:13] Or do you try to like keep everybody like locked in in the moment?
[00:30:16] Now, like the emotions get too high.
[00:30:17] Like what's the vibe here?
[00:30:20] I'm definitely screaming with them when it goes in.
[00:30:22] But then after that, you know, it's it's it's very much calm down.
[00:30:27] Let's think about this kickoff.
[00:30:28] Let's if there's anything we need to say real quick, let's say it.
[00:30:30] But we try to keep our heads, yeah, it's like, um, is that the message between both?
[00:30:36] Like, you're like, if you watch our concert, is that all you can hear?
[00:30:39] Scream is like, like, yeah, let's go.
[00:30:41] And then like, like, we make this joke.
[00:30:43] Sometimes it's happy where he's like, where he's like, lock in, lock in.
[00:30:48] That's what he does.
[00:30:50] Yeah.
[00:30:50] He says lock in and keeps like, yeah, he keeps us in check.
[00:30:53] But it's a message both for sure.
[00:30:55] Okay.
[00:30:56] I like it.
[00:30:56] I like it.
[00:30:57] Listen, guys, thank you so much for taking the time to, you know,
[00:31:00] come on first touch, give us a little insight into what you guys are doing.
[00:31:04] And then, of course, if we don't talk to you before Paris, you know,
[00:31:07] we want to wish you the best of luck. So thank you guys. Good luck.
[00:31:09] Of course. Thank you.
[00:31:11] Appreciate it.
[00:31:12] Ladies and gentlemen, that was NRG
[00:31:16] Beastmelt and Sathu coming on the show to again, give us a little bit
[00:31:20] of insight, what is I mean?
[00:31:22] Things are going to be hard, man.
[00:31:24] Great guys.
[00:31:25] They look well prepared.
[00:31:27] And I mean, even looking at that last play,
[00:31:29] just to hear a little bit of the insight of what goes behind,
[00:31:33] like how quick these pro players just react to the moment.
[00:31:37] Because anybody else in that moment,
[00:31:39] you expect them to take a shot.
[00:31:40] Just to know that Atomic was three steps ahead
[00:31:43] and telling his teammates that I'm passing this ball
[00:31:45] so Beastmo could be ready for the shot, that's insane,
[00:31:48] man.
[00:31:49] Not a lot of people are doing that.
[00:31:50] That's what makes NRG the best.
[00:31:52] That's what makes NRNG the best, so again, we thank them and wish them good luck, but it's time
[00:31:57] to bring in the rest of the panel. Listen, we've got some quality guests with us here today. We've
[00:32:03] got Achieves, Shogun, and Wavy here to join us. Gentlemen, this is quite the cast. Welcome on the
[00:32:09] show. Bro, say five to seven seconds ahead. What? Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying. I can't lie.
[00:32:17] I wish. Oh my gosh. It was crazy. It was crazy. Let's get it. Let's talk about it. NRG back
[00:32:25] on top. They take open six as we go through and look at the NRG versus SSG highlights.
[00:32:30] Shogan, listen, you do watch parties and you watch everything. I've been, I've been
[00:32:34] in them. I've seen them. What, what, what is it like?
[00:32:37] Which we are working off the time, which is very way to see.
[00:32:41] Yeah. That is, that is true. I'll definitely be in your chat watching, but I'm not on
[00:32:46] Well, yeah, all the time. But like, when you, when you see like, uh, you cover, of course
[00:32:53] Europe mostly, but when you take the time to watch like North America, Rockley, what
[00:32:56] comes to mind is we take a look at these highlights.
[00:32:58] Long OTs, a lot of long OTs. One team. Yeah. It's just always, how long of OTs did these
[00:33:05] guys play throughout the weekend? It was like, we're going to hit them with a nine
[00:33:09] minute and then all know we're going to hit them. The Razzle Dazzle, a 12 minute
[00:33:13] OT, but energy. I mean, they are so good at maintaining momentum. They don't let it sort
[00:33:19] of rattle them. You get so many teams as well. Achieves that they play those games and then
[00:33:22] they just look so flat the next series up and I just, yep, fine. Yeah, we did that.
[00:33:27] And then we're going to go again and grind you down, man. It's a brutal thing. And
[00:33:31] that's exactly what happened in space station. You know, they came in with all that momentum
[00:33:34] after beating foot into the dirt. And then they just ran straight into the brick
[00:33:38] wall of energy. They just didn't let them get anything done. And it was gotta had
[00:33:42] to have been a really demoralizing series for SSG to feel like, ah, we found the answer.
[00:33:47] We'll go into Paris looking great. And then you just can't absolutely stomped out stuff.
[00:33:52] I mean, go back to the grand finals, wavy. Of course, you on Virtus pro got a chance to
[00:33:57] play both of these teams. Virtus, you played SSG on Saturday, you play NRG on Sunday.
[00:34:04] What are these teams kind of bringing to the table that makes it kind of difficult
[00:34:08] for the play against?
[00:34:10] I'd say SSG, the way their playstyle works is like if you're not feeling it individually,
[00:34:16] they will just dominate you so incredibly bad. That's probably because of how like aggressive
[00:34:20] they play. They always have like one guy chasing a demo. So if you're not, if the guy on the
[00:34:25] ball, your first man isn't getting good challenges and like beating their player on the ball,
[00:34:30] it becomes immediately impossible for like the rest of your team to play the game
[00:34:33] because the people behind that challenge are kind of getting chased around. So even
[00:34:37] even if you dodge the demo, you're out of position,
[00:34:39] can't make a good play on the ball.
[00:34:41] So ultimately, they're just a super mechanical
[00:34:43] individual like powerhouse team.
[00:34:45] And I think that's also why NRG can match them well
[00:34:48] because it like realistically just three of the,
[00:34:51] probably three of the four,
[00:34:52] maybe three of the three best players
[00:34:53] in the region individually.
[00:34:55] So they can actually match the pace
[00:34:57] that SG try to play at.
[00:34:59] And with their like chem, their abilities,
[00:35:02] I think that's ultimately why they can end up
[00:35:04] winning the regionals,
[00:35:05] even when SG is playing good ball.
[00:35:08] I like that.
[00:35:09] Do you think it comes from them just being together so long?
[00:35:12] Yeah, part of it definitely is like,
[00:35:13] you're kind of on another level with like,
[00:35:15] figuring out what each other does.
[00:35:17] Like, realistically, that team has too much experience
[00:35:19] together, they probably don't need to come
[00:35:21] to like, know what's gonna happen.
[00:35:23] But I also think it's up to how good they are
[00:35:26] individually.
[00:35:27] Like I said about how SG plays,
[00:35:29] you really need to be playing well individually
[00:35:31] or at least have a base skill level
[00:35:33] if you want to have a chance at beating them.
[00:35:37] And that is fair.
[00:35:38] That is fair.
[00:35:38] It is.
[00:35:39] I mean, what are you thinking, man?
[00:35:40] I'm not going to let you be silent over here.
[00:35:42] Well, what is there to say that these men haven't said
[00:35:46] already, like the energy did look like they.
[00:35:50] It doesn't even, it looks like an outclass,
[00:35:52] but not like to a supreme level.
[00:35:57] Like it looks like SSG can still compete at the top.
[00:36:00] These other teams are still competing against NRG,
[00:36:02] And it's hard for NRG to stomp them out.
[00:36:06] The OTs say it themselves.
[00:36:09] It's hard for NRG to just stomp these teams out,
[00:36:11] which is something that I'm kind of getting annoyed by.
[00:36:14] I'm like, well, when are you going to win by like five?
[00:36:19] When are you going to just start dominating North America?
[00:36:21] Because you are the best, like Wally said, three of the four
[00:36:24] or three of the three best players in the region.
[00:36:27] And you've been playing together for so long.
[00:36:29] But I mean, it's a testament to these other teams
[00:36:32] that are practicing just as hard as NRG
[00:36:36] and are improving at a fantastic rate.
[00:36:39] So.
[00:36:40] Yeah, I think NRG statistically,
[00:36:44] fourth in goals to with two goals per game, 2.9 or 2.09.
[00:36:50] One is shots with 11.51.
[00:36:53] What's their goals against?
[00:36:55] Their second end goals against were 1.57 and then one in shots against with 7.57 and then
[00:37:04] number four in demos with 5.51.
[00:37:06] So I'm getting these from Direc by the way.
[00:37:09] Direc said something that's interesting to him is despite NRG's massive amount of
[00:37:13] OTs, they were somehow seventh in score per game as a team.
[00:37:18] Also despite the 44 minutes of OTs, they led the event in shots against.
[00:37:22] They had really strong offensive in midfield.
[00:37:24] If just about every other team had spent that much time in OT,
[00:37:28] they would have had far more shots against as well as a much higher
[00:37:31] score per game. And that was because they played for years.
[00:37:36] Oh, boy, here in play, but the foot just sits in the net, bro.
[00:37:39] Kumbaya, that's what happened.
[00:37:42] There it is. There it is.
[00:37:44] I mean, OK, well, let's kind of talk about the rest of the teams.
[00:37:48] Jesse, can you give me the open six bracket?
[00:37:51] And then we can talk about the pairs points right after just kind of diving in.
[00:37:56] This was the open six bracket.
[00:37:58] If you ended up missing it, of course, you there was that big race between foot
[00:38:03] inverters, wavy.
[00:38:04] I apologize.
[00:38:05] This is my first segment is going to be a little painful, but of course,
[00:38:11] you had to race there foot ended up making it to the top four.
[00:38:14] They lost out to SSG, wavy.
[00:38:17] I mean, can you give me a little bit of insight on your mindset going
[00:38:20] into this weekend?
[00:38:22] I mean, realistically, for us to make Paris,
[00:38:24] we needed to win the regional.
[00:38:27] And then after that, probably a tiebreaker.
[00:38:29] So we're kind of just going, there's
[00:38:31] ground to gameplay the best we can individually.
[00:38:33] Our mindset was more on worlds going into this last regional.
[00:38:36] I guess my point is we can make it as hard as possible
[00:38:41] for Futter to reach us.
[00:38:42] And then if we end up going all the way
[00:38:44] winning the regional or getting into the Grands,
[00:38:46] that's when we can start thinking about Paris.
[00:38:48] If you start thinking about having to win the regional that would put a lot of pressure on the team and I think not having that pressure would allow the team to perform play better and especially when it's like.
[00:38:59] You can't always you can't just say like, yo, it's where is it like it's not easy.
[00:39:03] Every region expecting.
[00:39:04] like, expecting, we always have the confidence that we can do it.
[00:39:09] But if you really like, if you set that as an expectation, you're going to
[00:39:14] struggle a lot more than you think you would.
[00:39:15] Because realistically, all of at age, I'd say like top six to like top eight
[00:39:20] teams are all like insane and probably capable of beating almost anybody else
[00:39:24] in the region.
[00:39:26] That's fair.
[00:39:27] That is fair.
[00:39:28] Okay.
[00:39:28] Now, now that we have our top four, I want us to rank our top four.
[00:39:33] We have rebellion seed as third in a for Paris major, but of course, uh, SSG is second seed.
[00:39:40] So, do you feel that way? Or do you think that that order should be kind of changed a little bit?
[00:39:44] Um, I would put Shopify, uh, second at the moment. It's, they're just looking too good
[00:39:49] when they're actually on. I think they're only getting losses to the teams, uh, at the moment.
[00:39:55] So, yeah, yeah, energy, first, Shopify, second, SG, third, and then foot, fourth. I think
[00:40:02] that's a pretty easy look in.
[00:40:06] This is reasonable.
[00:40:07] What? Any objections?
[00:40:08] It's unreasonable.
[00:40:09] Yeah. Go on. Reject the chiefs and tell you there's nothing unreasonable.
[00:40:13] It's it's a yes.
[00:40:14] That's pretty much exactly how I thought about it, too.
[00:40:16] It's like Shopify's challenged the best team in our G most consistently.
[00:40:21] So they get two, I think by default.
[00:40:24] And you know, SSG get three by nature of beating foot.
[00:40:26] It's like, I mean, SSG got bounced out in the last major in the group stage when they
[00:40:33] had chronic.
[00:40:34] So, you know, you make a big swap, you have a pretty good split.
[00:40:37] But right before the major, you run into the major team in North America and you can't make
[00:40:41] anything happen.
[00:40:42] So how much can you really expect out of SSG of this major?
[00:40:47] Not too sure.
[00:40:48] I guess they have some time.
[00:40:50] Foot I think feels far more ready because there's, you know, veteran presence, you
[00:40:54] know, cheese has yet to make a top eight in a live event, but at the same time, I mean,
[00:40:59] he has a world champion and a major champion on his team now. So what's the, the, I think
[00:41:05] the major team, but since they lost the SSG, you can't put them above them. So I guess they
[00:41:10] get the number one team in the region. Yeah. Fourth. I, it's, this is, uh, wait, I don't
[00:41:17] know how you feel about it. This just been the most difficult season we've ever
[00:41:20] had to rate these teams.
[00:41:21] I go, you mean, I think this is probably the first season when North America seen more depth than like a couple of good teams
[00:41:27] I do agree with your ranking. I think energy is I think energy one shop to sg3 and foot four
[00:41:33] I think I think probably everybody has it that way, but like I said like a little bit ago
[00:41:38] I think
[00:41:39] Realistically so many tears North American can beat each other that we'll see matches where like foot sweeps energy
[00:41:46] But then we still have them at fourth because more consistently that won't happen
[00:41:50] But it can happen because I think every team has gone through at least like a very high base skill level to where they can beat anybody else on really any given day.
[00:42:00] Interesting. Interesting. I want to I want to go more in depth with rebellion and then we'll talk about foot.
[00:42:07] You how do we feel obviously rebellions big kind of surging.
[00:42:11] They've been playing a lot closer to energy. But I do think rebellion never beat energy this season. Right.
[00:42:18] Let's let's check. Yeah, I think I'm really wrong with that.
[00:42:23] First of all, he check fires, right?
[00:42:25] First of all, normally can get away on an RG in a season,
[00:42:29] but I don't think he was able to do so this time around.
[00:42:33] Can we load up the energy rebellion highlights
[00:42:35] while we get this one going?
[00:42:38] The last time Shopify rebellion beat any in our G
[00:42:42] twenty twenty four RLCS major two in a qualifier.
[00:42:45] That's how it occurs.
[00:42:47] Yeah, so I've been a very different shop by rebellion.
[00:42:49] It's very different.
[00:42:50] I was on that.
[00:42:52] Can you see it?
[00:42:53] Oh, is that is that hidden from my is that is that part?
[00:42:57] Is that the first one?
[00:42:58] That's the part two piece Justin.
[00:43:00] Yeah. Oh, so Justin's the guy that beats energy.
[00:43:04] That's what we know.
[00:43:09] There was ever a guy to do it.
[00:43:11] True. Yeah.
[00:43:12] That being said, though, rebellion, I mean, they've looked pretty informed.
[00:43:14] They didn't lead in any categories as a team, but they were solid overall. They were two in goals per game
[00:43:21] With 2.5 3 they were 15 shots with
[00:43:25] 9.75
[00:43:26] Two in assists with two per game three and shooting with 25 26 percent shooting
[00:43:33] Or in goals against with 1.6 and in five and demos with five a game
[00:43:38] So I mean pretty solid overall stats
[00:43:41] But I mean, I think it's the change in play achieves that I really I think a lot of people are really seeing in rebellion
[00:43:48] How again their their approach looks more team-oriented and I feel like a lot of people think that that makes them ready for international
[00:43:54] Competition do you agree it has to I mean you got to find a way to win because if what you're doing isn't working
[00:44:00] What's what's in our G's thing all the team work stuff?
[00:44:03] So Shopify says fine. We got to take a page out of the book Kofa continues to develop nicely at the top level
[00:44:09] I mean, he's got two of the best teammates that you're going to find in North America at this point.
[00:44:13] And that's big for a younger guy like Kofur.
[00:44:16] So I mean, first killer and LJ still continuing to find their stride, you know, when they have initially made the roster,
[00:44:22] it's like, Hey, if there's a team to contend with NRG, it's probably going to be those two low and bold.
[00:44:27] Here they are. And the young kids only getting better.
[00:44:29] So it'll be a process, but they're in good shape.
[00:44:33] I think you feel the same way.
[00:44:37] going to repeat the question or was actually dumped out by that 11 minute OT rebellion
[00:44:46] already for international competencies. Are they ready for parents? Yeah. Yeah. I think
[00:44:51] I also I can see them making a big run. They've looked kind of insane. Sometimes in scrims
[00:44:56] like teams have been talking about it. They look you just like run around other teams
[00:45:00] like they can look you to do whatever and they're just feeling it mechanically and
[00:45:03] individually so they can just like perform insanely well. And I think the style they've
[00:45:07] like implemented the split allowed for like their individual abilities to like actually
[00:45:12] matter more in terms of making goals happen. So I think because of that, they'll be able
[00:45:17] to perform better internationally. I can even see them like winning a lucky hole. I was going
[00:45:22] to ask you, what do you think their peak is for Paris? So you think that is that peak
[00:45:25] to win? I think if everything is going to happen, I could actually see them winning
[00:45:28] at all. I think they I do think they have that ceiling. Oh, shit, there is. I got
[00:45:34] to get your thoughts on it. I mean they might have the ceiling but they'd have to duck some
[00:45:38] some teams for sure. Like they definitely have to duck NRG. I think I prefer to play NRG versus a
[00:45:46] few years but either way you would rather than play NRG to like familiarity. I think it's pretty
[00:45:53] good. They know they can play a good series versus NRG. I'm not as confident in Shopify
[00:45:58] against you but what can I say. I can see them getting like aura blasted by major KC.
[00:46:04] I can say that.
[00:46:05] Terrible.
[00:46:06] Name tag difference is real, dude.
[00:46:09] I mean, yeah, Vati has had a strong history against FK, so.
[00:46:15] Yeah, you haven't even talked about Twisted Minds being that one as well.
[00:46:19] And like the best player in the world.
[00:46:21] You're a better runner than Twisted Minds?
[00:46:23] Yeah, I don't know.
[00:46:24] It's kind of tough right now.
[00:46:26] There's a lot of strong teams in the world.
[00:46:30] There are a lot of strong teams in the world, definitely for sure.
[00:46:33] Okay. So.
[00:46:35] Pete, did you think in what it has to be depends on the bracket?
[00:46:41] I for sure it depends on the brand.
[00:46:42] I got I think after at their peak, I got a top four peak.
[00:46:47] I just think there's a lot of strong teams heading into the major.
[00:46:51] I rate twisted minds.
[00:46:54] Highly I rate and of course, energy is highly gentleman's highly like that.
[00:46:59] That's three teams already like that's three strong teams.
[00:47:03] if Topify has to play against them, they're going to have some like heavy trouble. Yeah,
[00:47:08] it's going to be heavy trouble against them. So I think top four peak.
[00:47:15] No, I mean,
[00:47:22] two, I'll give them top two. I'll give them top two. But I can't win it.
[00:47:27] That'd be the most Mickey bracket for that to happen. I'm sorry.
[00:47:29] I need my European voice. No, they're not. They're playing good at the moment. There's
[00:47:38] too much that they're going to be taking on, you know, Titan team after Titan team. I can't
[00:47:43] see this team going on a run. Well, let's say, for example, they've got to play twisted
[00:47:47] minds on it for the first round for the round of six. Then you run into KC. They
[00:47:52] might run as an energy at some point and then into German. They're not winning those
[00:47:55] matches back to back. I'm sorry. They might get one. They might get two. They're
[00:47:59] not getting the whole way. So time, don't say bounce. If you get ninjas and pyjamas,
[00:48:14] maybe. Oh my god, brutal, brutal. We'll have to see those groups. Yeah, that's the
[00:48:22] I think that's the worst thing that I actually got down that makes me so sad.
[00:48:25] We've got our way. I need to see the analysis for it because that's really hard. It's like,
[00:48:30] okay, just read the rules. I have no idea what this means when I'm reading it. I don't
[00:48:34] know who's where and for what group.
[00:48:36] Okay, so what should the expectations be? I think they should just go and have some
[00:48:43] fun.
[00:48:44] No, expectation expectation is top eight. That's the
[00:48:52] Sunday they need to be high eight. I feel like that's too low for them. No, that's
[00:48:57] I think Sunday is the better for them. I think better better be there and stop it.
[00:49:03] But I think I think their goal is definitely like at least top six or top four.
[00:49:08] I mean, this is first killer we're talking about, right?
[00:49:10] Yeah. If we know there's any place that the French struggle to perform it is in France.
[00:49:18] So maybe they sneak what through the crowd. A lot of people are banking on right now. Yeah.
[00:49:27] Except for wavy wavy is not banking on foot using that to their advantage. And we got
[00:49:33] to talk about it right now. Okay. Let's dive into it. How far do you think foot goes
[00:49:37] But it currently 14 points.
[00:49:39] We made the conversation about rebellion.
[00:49:41] OK, maybe they win.
[00:49:43] Maybe top two men topic.
[00:49:45] Can we get the world's points so we can see the situation here?
[00:49:49] Virtus are at forty six foot is at thirty two.
[00:49:53] Like I said, 14 point gap.
[00:49:54] I think for them to pass, they would have to make what finals or top?
[00:50:00] You know, you talk, they need top two.
[00:50:01] We've done the math.
[00:50:02] The OK, they need to go.
[00:50:04] No, they just need to be
[00:50:08] The reason why they're 32 is it's including the four guarantee
[00:50:17] They're 28 going into the major we have got to stop doing this
[00:50:22] Rage me I've been I've been staring at that for a little bit
[00:50:26] They need top two. He said they need top two. Yeah, they need top two. What part of the
[00:50:36] tournament would you have to get to before you start going, Oh, you start leaning for
[00:50:40] going, wait a minute. All right. Could somebody actually eliminate these guys already? If
[00:50:44] they go to top six, I'll start sweating. But before they are not worried, I'm not worried.
[00:50:51] Like I really simply think that team is definitely going to get top eight. I would not be
[00:50:54] shocked if they pull that if they start getting further than I will start getting nervous.
[00:50:59] I don't know what to say.
[00:51:02] Oh man, this is all you need to know the groups because if they're in a group and they win
[00:51:06] like if they're in a group they can win, then Wavy's nervous.
[00:51:09] Yeah, if you've not already put some talk tops in a good draw, yeah, all right.
[00:51:15] But at the same time, I don't know, like, who are they realistically beating in a group
[00:51:20] stage?
[00:51:21] Yeah, I know what I need for the show. So they're gonna hit like an EU number water
[00:51:27] a twisted mind. Yeah, I guess I'm tough calm. Yeah, chances are they're gonna have to like
[00:51:33] peak or play really well in order to be one heck of a group stage. That's actually the
[00:51:37] biggest difference I thought for between SSG and foot is like SSG gets the benefit
[00:51:42] of seed and foot is definitely not benefiting from that. I don't feel like.
[00:51:48] Oh man expert expert is never mind actually I'm not I'm not gonna say he's he I thought
[00:51:56] he he's he's he might have low key almost leaps up to tell me but I'm not gonna go on
[00:52:01] the stage. Okay. Let's do a proposal here. Let's say they're in a group with OCE and
[00:52:07] an EU one and EU four. I think that's horrible. No, I don't like it. No, I think I get
[00:52:15] out. I think you won Andy for both wins. Well, the thing is, you only need top three
[00:52:21] in the group to make it out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Top three. Yeah. But I mean, it's possible
[00:52:25] at some point, but in the group. Yeah. I'm kind of good at the moment. I that's not
[00:52:33] a free reaction. I think they make it out of here. Five conference in this four. I
[00:52:37] think they're good. That's the last time. Yeah. Yeah. That's fair. I'm just saying
[00:52:42] Last time wild card was out of land and may top six.
[00:52:45] He's got to make it easy.
[00:52:47] And if you're a if what is in a group with any OCE,
[00:52:50] cheese is going to be hungry.
[00:52:51] He wants top eight one time.
[00:52:56] You got to make something that you got to make.
[00:52:59] You got you got you got a world champ and a major champ on your team.
[00:53:01] You got to make something you got.
[00:53:03] You got to be OCE.
[00:53:04] You cannot.
[00:53:05] If they lose the OCE, that stock is tanked.
[00:53:08] It's shocked.
[00:53:12] I mean, we'll see. I mean, surely we'll know by the end of the weekend for sure. It'll be
[00:53:19] interesting to see once we kind of get that through. Let's talk about OC for a little bit.
[00:53:24] Wildcard, when OC open six, they're going to Paris. They're out of a Frenchman. Is
[00:53:32] this a good thing? This is the best. OC is by far the most entertaining region in
[00:53:38] all of rocket league right now. This has been so much front fund rather split one spot,
[00:53:44] three teams. This is the first time we've ever had winning in for a major spot. And
[00:53:49] we got bulldogs gives power going all the way to seven, then power gets wild card going
[00:53:53] to six. It has been a ridiculous and is absurd that the time that we have taken away the
[00:54:00] second spot mostly is the time that they've got the most depth that they've ever had.
[00:54:04] actually traded back and forth on the victories. But wildcards, they deserved that spot. They
[00:54:10] were unbelievable throughout the entire weekend. It really did not look like it was going to
[00:54:15] be anyone else's spot. Torsos might be one of the fastest players in the entire region
[00:54:20] right now. He is just operation full send.
[00:54:22] I was looking good. Wildcard looking good. The back achieves. I mean, it could,
[00:54:30] could be something dangerous. Can we take a look at the world's points? Oh, this. Yeah.
[00:54:35] This is an interesting. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So is there, is there one fully aware of what's
[00:54:39] going on with this? Because right now OCE does have an LCQ spot. If now was what way
[00:54:47] we pointed out to us earlier. Now we are fully aware of that is the points updated.
[00:54:52] So power and wildcard are completely, if wildcard are eliminated last place from groups,
[00:54:58] We have a tie break between power and wild cards that we need to sort out. If wild card
[00:55:03] can win a single match or get their way through, I should say, then they will take the spot.
[00:55:09] And then power go from the biggest wild card haters to the biggest wild card lovers because
[00:55:14] they need that LCQ spot and very likely they need wild card to get at least 12 maybe
[00:55:21] top eight. You've got to outperform South America.
[00:55:24] That's the benefit that for wildcard is that it's based on averages and they are one team
[00:55:35] versus South America having two teams. So there's a bit of a problem with it though.
[00:55:40] Okay. Is if South America, because South America are down by I think one round if I was to
[00:55:45] break it down to to full bar stacks. If South America could catch them. So let's
[00:55:50] say South America out, uh, 15, 16, that sort of range. Then second round OCR out and then
[00:55:56] beyond that, uh, and then never answer top six of speak for, uh, South America. If they
[00:56:01] are tied South American OC, it goes down to who, which region had the biggest peak? You've
[00:56:08] got two teams placement. Yeah. The highest placement. And that would very likely go South
[00:56:13] America. If they were to catch up. So they need it. They do not need a tie. They
[00:56:18] They need to outright win that spot.
[00:56:22] Oh, that changes things.
[00:56:26] It's horrible.
[00:56:28] That changes things a lot.
[00:56:31] That makes it really interesting for for OC and for Sam
[00:56:34] at the same time, Sam's going to want that extra spot.
[00:56:37] Because we can reasonably assume that fury would make, you know.
[00:56:43] We did.
[00:56:44] in Boston, I don't know.
[00:56:48] I might have.
[00:56:49] I might have considered 13 through 16.
[00:56:51] Pat, I'm lost.
[00:56:53] They're good.
[00:56:54] I don't know.
[00:56:54] I'm sad in Boston.
[00:56:57] I could see them losing 13 through 16, but I can also see them making around.
[00:57:00] I think they are really like a I think they're a good team,
[00:57:04] but I also think they can still lose realistically like any team.
[00:57:08] I don't know what the group should look like.
[00:57:10] I think if they, I don't see them losing to a packer, I should say,
[00:57:14] but I think it was legally to lose a ball against any other region.
[00:57:17] No hate to a packer, I should say.
[00:57:20] I hate one of these Sam teams out last place, at least one of them.
[00:57:24] If that doesn't happen, then they're in big, big trouble.
[00:57:29] Fair, fair.
[00:57:32] Another another team that's also having their own similar kind of race is Mina.
[00:57:37] Who's the best team in Meena right now?
[00:57:41] We had that one.
[00:57:43] We had one there.
[00:57:45] It's it.
[00:57:47] It's Twisted Mines the best team in Meena.
[00:57:50] Let's take a look here because Twisted Mines had taken open six and I want to bring up
[00:57:54] a particular matchup, not their finals matchup, but their matchup versus Falcons.
[00:57:59] It was a must win series for Falcons because Falcons needed to beat them and I think
[00:58:04] go on and win the regional event if they wanted to retain it, like get their spot to Paris.
[00:58:09] I want that for a tiebreaker. They needed to win over a tiebreaker.
[00:58:14] Yeah, that's when it all them on the rematch and yeah, no, they didn't do that.
[00:58:21] Let's let's look at the highlights.
[00:58:22] There is thought to be about twisting my ways.
[00:58:26] The this team you can't sleep.
[00:58:29] But I hope every top EU, NA, the major contending teams
[00:58:35] are watching this region, bro,
[00:58:36] because this region is, they need business,
[00:58:39] but these, but they got like five, maybe even six teams
[00:58:43] that are actually like battling each other
[00:58:47] and is no slouch, even like Twisted Minds
[00:58:49] going up against like, Astalians or Daws.
[00:58:53] It might seem like it's a sweep or a stomp,
[00:58:56] but the games are close.
[00:58:57] and I mean, when they go up against each other,
[00:59:00] it's even closer, like it's just so back and forth
[00:59:03] in this region.
[00:59:04] I am so worried if I'm a top team about this boy and Wipo,
[00:59:10] he is disgusting, especially when you got monkey,
[00:59:14] bro, the monkey moon midfield allows this kid
[00:59:17] to do whatever he wants.
[00:59:19] It's actually insane.
[00:59:20] And like if that kid just comes in performing
[00:59:24] at 90% capacity with this roster,
[00:59:27] like TRK looks like the guy who's like lacking a little bit
[00:59:31] and he's just not lacking at all.
[00:59:33] But like he looks like the guy who's,
[00:59:35] who doesn't show up.
[00:59:36] Who's kind of invisible.
[00:59:37] When TRK is the one not showing up, you're in good shape.
[00:59:40] That's what I'm saying.
[00:59:41] Like this region is disgusting, bro.
[00:59:43] If you're not watching me now,
[00:59:44] I don't know what you're doing to be honest, man.
[00:59:46] Like you got to watch this region.
[00:59:51] It's not fair.
[00:59:52] Yeah, I was going to say,
[00:59:53] I feel like you got something to say here.
[00:59:54] It's just not fair, dude.
[00:59:55] I mean, it's so annoying as a long time North American car soccer
[01:00:01] enjoyer to watch Mina over the course of two seasons.
[01:00:05] Basically just say, yeah, we're probably the second best region.
[01:00:08] And it's just a matter of time until we take all of North America spots.
[01:00:12] Oh, they're good, dude.
[01:00:14] Well, I can't they've built a system over there for how to pump out good talent.
[01:00:20] And I think it speaks to the fact of that because
[01:00:24] They're only accepting the best of, you know, EU players to come and play out in their region, right?
[01:00:31] It's like initially they're like, Rize, you can try it out and Rize didn't work out.
[01:00:34] They axed immediately.
[01:00:36] Then they say, let's bring in world champions, Monkey Moon and Jiralee.
[01:00:41] And the only one not fighting for it is Jiralee.
[01:00:44] It's like, they don't want good people coming into their region and playing with
[01:00:47] them.
[01:00:48] Hey, if you Bungs, get out.
[01:00:49] Like they're good.
[01:00:50] good. But then also keeping it like endemic as well. You talk about the R A team, you
[01:00:57] know, no, no, no imports in that aspect. And then again, with this Falcons team, a lot of
[01:01:05] questions because sure, you're right, achieves. They do say that they want the best, but
[01:01:11] sometimes money can't buy you a championship. I'll see you that that Falcons spent all
[01:01:18] the money in the world on everybody for EWC. They want to and around.
[01:01:23] I mean, listen, they do get the WCs.
[01:01:26] I'll give them that rock league.
[01:01:28] I feel like it's a different game.
[01:01:29] I don't know what you attributed to wavy for Falcons.
[01:01:33] The lack of success.
[01:01:35] Um, I would most likely bet that it's more chemistry thing
[01:01:39] and like a playstyle thing that they can't work out.
[01:01:42] But individually, I mean, look at the players, they're probably
[01:01:45] even without like a mechanical and said mean is in Mina they probably are like
[01:01:49] three of the five best players individually I think realistically outside of
[01:01:53] Nuba like they're probably the three best players even including him they might be
[01:01:58] so I think with that information I kind of pass them something stylistically
[01:02:02] placed on wise maybe their chem doesn't link up as well maybe Jolly
[01:02:06] doesn't fit in as well as they hoped it's really hard to say if you're not
[01:02:10] on the team itself but I think it really it can't be an individual thing
[01:02:15] with how good the players are. It just can't be. It has to be something
[01:02:17] stylistically has to do with the team. Can the players have something on that end?
[01:02:24] I feel like a lot of people could agree with that. Now Falcons not in Paris and now
[01:02:32] it's R8. It's our question. I mean, we're asking this question for a lot of people. We asked
[01:02:36] for her for we're very restful for our eight their peak how far DCM days realistic and I'm being
[01:02:47] realistic I rate this team so highly I genuinely think that they're a dark horse going into the
[01:02:52] major and if you're not paying attention to the I'm so serious I'm so serious when I talk about
[01:02:59] R8 man. You got, you got Ghazi to grade. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. We can't always
[01:03:06] nickname for these boys. We got the great Ghazi. We got Muhammad the Truth and Abdullah the Rula.
[01:03:13] I'm telling you bro, they love it. R8 team is different man. I got the peak, peak.
[01:03:21] I'm gonna have to go top four, man. I'm gonna have to go top four, peak.
[01:03:24] I thought you're going to say when I thought you were going to be delusional. I think they
[01:03:31] need a tournament just to get you to it. And then they're a threat to all of this because
[01:03:39] they've taken a little bit of time to get used to online play. They are now dominating online
[01:03:43] play outside of twisted minds, giving them a little bit of time on land. They're going
[01:03:46] to be doing the exact same thing. This is not, this is not just a all Falcons aren't
[01:03:51] playing very well, sort of inclusion. This is an incredible squad of new talent that people
[01:03:57] need to be afraid of. If they just look at this and go, oh, not Falcons. All good. We're
[01:04:01] going to be fine. You're in big trouble. Hmm. Okay. I like it. And then of course, if they
[01:04:08] do peak top four Falcons still retain their world spot and fat, we'll see Falcons at
[01:04:12] the world championship. And then all right would most likely get the L CQ spot. And
[01:04:20] then we would see them still at the world, excuse me, at the world championship.
[01:04:23] Wait, so if they're top four, then what's twisted minds peak?
[01:04:27] When the wind, yes, very much when.
[01:04:31] OK. OK, they got bounced out in Boston.
[01:04:35] See, I had them as my dark horse for Boston.
[01:04:38] They just got bounced out in groups.
[01:04:39] And I was like, no, I was crushed.
[01:04:41] So I'm glad to see them rally here and take number one.
[01:04:44] Yeah. And with an easier chance to come out of groups as well,
[01:04:47] It feels like this could be definitely a bigger run for Mina this time around in Paris.
[01:04:57] Okay, so that's Mina, but let's move on to Europe.
[01:05:01] EU Open 6 is this weekend.
[01:05:05] Who do you guys have making Paris?
[01:05:08] So we can get to the rundown.
[01:05:10] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:05:11] What's the likely five?
[01:05:13] I mean, again.
[01:05:14] My pretty much got it locked at this point for Europe.
[01:05:17] Yeah, I think we're lucky that Loki over.
[01:05:19] It's mostly a seeding tournament, if we're being honest regarding, there's a big, big
[01:05:25] point difference between Man City and whoever's next.
[01:05:30] I don't even remember who's next.
[01:05:31] Hit up, Coro.
[01:05:32] Hit up, Coro.
[01:05:33] Hit up, Coro.
[01:05:34] Of course, get up, Coro.
[01:05:35] The goats.
[01:05:36] I mean, go for it.
[01:05:37] I don't feel like it's really that hard, damn it.
[01:05:40] You're making it seem like it is showing up.
[01:05:43] What do they need for this? I'm going to see if I can bring this up real quick.
[01:05:47] They need six points on City.
[01:05:49] They need six points on City. That means if City make top eight, you're in trouble at that
[01:05:57] point because top eight is, I believe, six points locked, so they can call for a tiebreaker.
[01:06:03] Yeah.
[01:06:04] What's their groups look like?
[01:06:07] I mean, a bracket changes everything, but I do see what you guys are saying, right?
[01:06:12] city looks really solid. They look like the calm five. Then you have NIP vitality KK up
[01:06:23] Carmen court. Yeah, I'm actually casting a match of those two Dazzar and that was great
[01:06:28] fun two weeks ago at every moment. Which court help? They play on first round. Yeah, KDOP
[01:06:38] course, car meeting first round.
[01:06:40] There's a lot of cool sweet.
[01:06:42] Quarks to do GK could GK could play spoiler for Manchester,
[01:06:46] though. Yeah, it was your top six.
[01:06:48] The uppers. Yeah.
[01:06:50] Yeah, let's talk about GK for a bit.
[01:06:52] I mean, this Paris open has not been good for them at all.
[01:06:58] They're currently at 24 season points.
[01:07:00] Can we take a look at the world point standings here?
[01:07:03] They're sitting at six, which means that unless, you know,
[01:07:07] They have a good performance this event and outplaced man city.
[01:07:13] They would most likely be looking towards L C Q. Wavy.
[01:07:17] How are you feeling about him?
[01:07:19] Um, well, I mean, considering they eliminated me at Boston, I've been after.
[01:07:25] It's all smoke.
[01:07:27] He's like, I like this.
[01:07:28] My props to them and look, you go into Seiko.
[01:07:31] Seiko is moving that tournament.
[01:07:33] Honestly, though, I know a lot of people like didn't know,
[01:07:36] I didn't think the Ross move was the right decision.
[01:07:38] I at the time, I thought like I thought it made sense.
[01:07:41] Like I thought they were going to be nice with tempo.
[01:07:44] Unfortunately, they didn't see the success
[01:07:46] that I think like most people envisioned.
[01:07:48] But I do think the team still has a lot of potential.
[01:07:50] I don't think realistically they can make Paris anymore.
[01:07:54] I don't think they can make war of two points.
[01:07:56] Although I do see them winning LCKQ.
[01:07:58] I don't think there's another team
[01:08:00] in Europe outside of the top five
[01:08:02] that can realistically beat them.
[01:08:04] Maybe can't up court, I guess, but I still don't see it.
[01:08:07] I still don't see it.
[01:08:08] No, to the whole believers, none, none.
[01:08:11] Well, no, I'm the kid.
[01:08:13] I thought the team was pretty strong. Am I wrong?
[01:08:16] Yeah, because you know, out of all of this, what's going to happen is
[01:08:19] we're going to be talking or GK definitely to make it.
[01:08:21] And then Europe's going to send gritty goose.
[01:08:23] OK, every time.
[01:08:27] So it always goes.
[01:08:29] That is how it always goes.
[01:08:31] You know, I'm not.
[01:08:33] Yeah. I do feel like GK just been in a position where for them to climb out, they would need
[01:08:39] to show something that they haven't shown before, which is totally possible. And I think
[01:08:43] that the way Europe goes, it can happen. And no one would really be too surprised.
[01:08:48] They'd be like, Oh, they finally did it. But then if the opposite happened, nobody would
[01:08:52] really be too surprised.
[01:08:53] Like, Oh, yeah, people expect just to get rid of sin. Okay. Honestly, he's the guy
[01:08:59] I for that thought about that he keeps making it teams better. Just go for dosing. We need
[01:09:03] you over. Just do the exact same for us as you did for NIP last year.
[01:09:09] I could agree with it. I could agree with it. Um, let's, let's kind of talk about, I
[01:09:14] mean, we'll see what GK can do. Maybe they surprise us. Maybe gritty goose wins the
[01:09:18] regional. Who do you guys think is going to win open six? It's going to be the
[01:09:23] last one I want. I want to go down the line from achieves all the way back to
[01:09:27] me. Who do you guys have one? I think I think a win.
[01:09:35] Well, I'm going to go out on the same man city. Take it.
[01:09:38] I think they
[01:09:39] want to
[01:09:41] that's a Paul
[01:09:42] and the second act. Do the thing, bro.
[01:09:47] No, it's
[01:09:49] next to it. So I'm sorry to live for support here in the
[01:09:52] man city is going to win.
[01:09:57] You know what? We've had vitality. We've had gentlemen eight. Let's give one to Casey as
[01:10:03] well. We, it's been too long, you know, that it depends. I don't even know if they're going
[01:10:09] to be back in the facility because they were at home for the first time in forever last
[01:10:13] time. So maybe they're back in the facility and then we can have the very typical, oh,
[01:10:17] well Europe's not got a definite number one team in the region, which again, most
[01:10:23] Europe thing ever. So Casey, I think he provides Tennessee case
[01:10:26] generates, but I'll go Casey for my pick.
[01:10:30] Okay, maybe I was going to say how long has it been since we've
[01:10:34] gone to European split without Casey winning a regional?
[01:10:38] Oh, I can take a look.
[01:10:40] I can get on that.
[01:10:43] A while.
[01:10:44] I don't know if it's truly it's like, right?
[01:10:47] Or at Copenhagen.
[01:10:49] Yeah, they won that.
[01:10:50] Yeah. Yeah.
[01:10:52] They also have a regional after.
[01:10:54] Yeah. So yeah, oh,
[01:10:58] this is like the energy conversation.
[01:10:59] Yeah, basically, like energy.
[01:11:01] Like it's not truly a European split.
[01:11:03] If Casey 2024 London split.
[01:11:06] Split. Casey doesn't take one.
[01:11:09] Is it a real split if they don't win one?
[01:11:12] I know exactly what you mean.
[01:11:13] I get that.
[01:11:14] Yeah. Because I honestly, like because of that,
[01:11:16] I think I'll give it a KC.
[01:11:18] I can see, I can see major vitality winning, but I think I have to give it a case.
[01:11:22] I'm here to gamble. What do I get if man city actually wins?
[01:11:26] Oh, oh, you know, you name it achieves. I'll be there.
[01:11:30] All right. I'll put that in my back pocket. All right. You're getting favor.
[01:11:35] All right. I appreciate that. This is what you got.
[01:11:38] I've been chairing for this car. My corp team, the entire split
[01:11:42] and they've let me down. Therefore I'm abandoning. I'm going. Gentlemen.
[01:11:47] It's jump ship. Okay.
[01:11:49] It's a Caleb Culp. Listen, no one said vitality. So I like that. I'm happy.
[01:11:57] Because it was just it didn't make sense. I'm still on my train. I still see people powering vitality. How I don't believe it.
[01:12:06] I don't believe it. Zinnus top five in his region for score goals, assist shots and goals per game.
[01:12:11] I think what was his goals per 70% with exotic and 52 it's dizzy of 54
[01:12:18] It just runs through one guy. So I
[01:12:21] Tell I'll see something different. I can't can't rock with me. Who do you want zin to team up with dance to start winning again?
[01:12:27] It's like I want LeBron James to have Kyrie Irving
[01:12:31] You know, I want like for me then
[01:12:35] honestly
[01:12:36] No, I can't say I always think about a first killer should a team was in
[01:12:41] I think I think I think that should have happened and then you should still have exotic on the team. I think that would have worked
[01:12:49] but
[01:12:50] Yeah, that's just what I need. I want man. Not enough. I don't I don't think it's your own through
[01:12:56] That's just that's just my take but that being said I have karmic court winning
[01:13:00] But what you don't know is how I got there you we can find out right now
[01:13:04] Let's take a look at my bracket here because I made a bracket and let's start with the group stage
[01:13:09] So as you can see pretty normal groups you need a little bit of an upset in there
[01:13:14] Yeah, that's a problem already.
[01:13:16] K smashed.
[01:13:17] Yeah, yeah.
[01:13:18] This guy went normal groups.
[01:13:20] It's like this is never going to happen.
[01:13:22] Whoa, whoa, whoa.
[01:13:23] K is pretty normal.
[01:13:24] Look at that group beat.
[01:13:25] Listen, I got the KDF corp upset Karmie corp there in the group B.
[01:13:29] Okay.
[01:13:30] I like it, you know.
[01:13:31] This is awesome.
[01:13:32] Of course you like it.
[01:13:33] It was yours.
[01:13:34] Of course I do.
[01:13:35] You know, I think it's doable.
[01:13:37] I think it's definitely possible.
[01:13:38] We'll get a carbon Corbello slot to start. K op corp could take that win. I think it's pretty good
[01:13:45] Uh, the gritty goose novo laws. I mean, I'm kind of being a bit of a novo fan in there
[01:13:51] Gritty goose could definitely uh turn that one around but
[01:13:54] I think it's pretty solid now. Let's take a look at the way for the the lcq. That's when they'll take it
[01:14:00] Playoffs I really like
[01:14:08] Look at the bracket, right? GK in the lower round. They win that. They've won that before.
[01:14:18] That's not, not crazy. Vitality versus K-Dop Corp. They've won that before. Zen can't
[01:14:23] be redosed. It's just a fact.
[01:14:25] They've won that before. Not that crazy. NIP. I mean, listen, K-Dop Corp. You can't
[01:14:32] to be vitality is no way of being KDOP Corp. Not that crazy. Not that, not that crazy.
[01:14:38] I like this. There you go. And we can't outcorp Karmie Corp. And of course, you know, Karmie
[01:14:43] Corp, like I said, I have the money. So what, what I like the most about this though is
[01:14:48] if this bracket actually happens, we got a tiebreaker between KDOP Corp and man city.
[01:14:54] So you want the miracle upper, oh, I guess not upper bracket run from KDOP Corp because
[01:14:58] lost. But wow, he's been really smart with this, though, cheese, because Redosin only
[01:15:04] beats teams that he used to play for. So he's got vitality and NIP. That's where he's
[01:15:10] like, Redosin's going to keep swapping teams every single split until he can't be beat
[01:15:14] by anybody. And he'll be untouchable. You know what, man? I think my biggest gripe
[01:15:22] with this whole bracket, you got Ked up court making it to the grand finals is
[01:15:25] is that they're going to game seven with GK?
[01:15:28] Come on, bro.
[01:15:29] It should be like a sweep or something, bro.
[01:15:31] Like, GK is gonna play, bro.
[01:15:32] Honestly, you know, but this is like GK, you know,
[01:15:36] they fire again, things click in, you know,
[01:15:38] trying to go around and then, you know,
[01:15:39] KDOPCorp come in and just boom, just, just,
[01:15:42] you know, close series, okay.
[01:15:44] Right, that Saturday, then you go on to Sunday,
[01:15:46] boom, seven, boom, six, boom.
[01:15:48] And then, you know, they run out of steam at the final.
[01:15:50] I feel like, you know, it's not,
[01:15:52] it's not ridiculous to say it.
[01:15:54] I don't think it's ridiculous to say that.
[01:15:57] I thought I enjoy watching it.
[01:16:00] I think this bracket is ridiculous though.
[01:16:04] I want to give him some credit though of Europe does tend to have very strange
[01:16:10] final opens a lot of the seasons.
[01:16:13] We've already had, you know, guilty sports a couple of years back.
[01:16:16] I don't know where come ahead and win the entire thing.
[01:16:19] Two years ago, I think it was Magnifico maker run.
[01:16:22] Uh, no, it was it was Luna galaxy made her run all the way to her grand finals.
[01:16:27] If that can happen.
[01:16:29] Yeah, sure.
[01:16:30] K-Dop corpus can as well.
[01:16:32] Thank you.
[01:16:33] Thank you.
[01:16:34] Thank you.
[01:16:35] Is the K-Dop corp run more outrageous than the man city win though?
[01:16:40] No, no, I've just realized that.
[01:16:46] That's a little, I don't understand.
[01:16:48] Okay.
[01:16:48] Wait, give me, give me your, uh, your final, your expected final.
[01:16:52] And this in the original. Yeah. KC mates or Casey vitality. I think
[01:16:59] Casey mates, Casey vitality. That's not a bad shot. It's not a bad shot
[01:17:03] We'll see the bracket bracket works that way, but I just feel like it's not gonna work that way
[01:17:07] That's just that's just where I am with that being said gentlemen. Listen, this has been a great first touch episode very insightful
[01:17:14] I appreciate all you guys coming in giving you takes on the topics has been a smooth show
[01:17:18] So can we we go down the line with the final thoughts achieves?
[01:17:25] Please finish so I can see the groups for Paris, because I've got to know, man.
[01:17:29] I got to know.
[01:17:31] Everyone's went on these groups to be released.
[01:17:33] It's going to be the biggest topic until the weekend is over.
[01:17:36] Shulgan, you'll be working this weekend, correct?
[01:17:39] Nope. Oh.
[01:17:42] I got a deal of K-Dub court versus coming court grand finals.
[01:17:45] I'll be watching it.
[01:17:47] So no, I don't worry about that one too much.
[01:17:50] That's good.
[01:17:50] Be sure to tune into the show and watch party, maybe.
[01:17:53] I mean, what are you going to be up to in the meantime here?
[01:17:57] I mean, I'll be I'll be hoping chronicles is internet or something of the sort.
[01:18:02] Over the.
[01:18:04] It'll be at the land.
[01:18:06] I'll be as much as I love the team.
[01:18:08] I'll be preparing on the rainfall.
[01:18:10] All right.
[01:18:11] So we can expect.
[01:18:11] Are you going to do a watch party major?
[01:18:14] I might wouldn't be surprised if I do.
[01:18:16] I mean, I don't know what else I'd do, so.
[01:18:18] I'll turn it to the way you hate watch.
[01:18:22] That'll be a good watch.
[01:18:23] I mean, of course, there's no about to close it out, man.
[01:18:25] It's always great to have you here.
[01:18:28] Great to be here, man.
[01:18:29] Great to talk to some rock league
[01:18:30] and our expectations of K-DOP Quirk
[01:18:34] delusionally making the grand finals.
[01:18:36] But yeah, hopefully your bracket comes up to fruition
[01:18:39] because I need to be watching that.
[01:18:41] That would be fun.
[01:18:42] It'd be a lot of fun.
[01:18:44] I think it'd be a great time.
[01:18:46] I'm thinking of a great time.
[01:18:47] Either way, these next few opens as the, you know, the season,
[01:18:52] the online season is starting to come to a close,
[01:18:54] not counting LCQ, the ones and the twos
[01:18:57] that'll happen in the upcoming months,
[01:18:59] but in terms of the regular split in being here,
[01:19:04] of course, you want to be able to tune into
[01:19:05] all the Rocket League action to, you know,
[01:19:07] see who's going to start booking their trips.
[01:19:10] We're missing South America.
[01:19:11] We're missing APEC and we're missing Europe
[01:19:13] and we'll find those out all this weekend.
[01:19:14] So keep it locked in all things that are eSports on Twitter or even here,
[01:19:18] twitch.tv slash rocket league because the matches will start tomorrow.
[01:19:22] So of course, thank you to all the guests on the show today.
[01:19:25] Thank you to our producer Jesse, who's been fantastic and thank you to everybody
[01:19:29] behind the scenes making a possible Chris, Keir, or Sky, even Bates.
[01:19:33] I don't know if he did anything, but thank you.
[01:19:36] Of course, we'll see you guys.
[01:19:39] And we'll see Bates next week without further ado, one, two, two to Lou.
[01:19:44] We'll see ya.