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09-23-2026 · 7h 43m
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I don't know what he thinks allies sucks.
It does.
I'm overaligned.
I'm overaligned.
There's a bell.
Hello? Hello? Ding dong.
So, a couple things here.
I did some, well I had a day off yesterday, so of course I got to read into stuff and
go through a couple of posts.
I know I might sound like a broken record, but druid fucking sucks ass.
Like, it is baffling how bad this class is right now.
It's horrible. No, it doesn't. It's bad.
I almost regret doing the thorns little video I did, because it's so busted.
It might be- it is the worst class right now.
Maybe next to a warrior.
Are you worse than shaman shaman also got fucked, but I think
What is it?
Shamans can do like some melee builds and still kind of own your level 20 the scaling it's it's not about that
It's about the calculations of what things would look like at the end at level 60 right now Druid is fucking horrible
I really I understand the
concept of dude you're level 20 and I know it's the beta and I hope we get
fixed and it shouldn't get fixed we're in the beta this is kind of why this is
happening but like when people are like oh it's level 20 relax but that's
complain fix it can you explain why all right so let me show you how I do so I
leveled a horde druid last night and I got ranked to wrath and I remember Vicky
was leveling as well as like hey babe she got rank 2 smite I don't know if
you're gonna use your rank 2 spells the scaling is a little bit weird right now
things just aren't working you're probably better off using rank 1 wrath
like me it saves mana and I looked at hers and her calculations were fine her
rank 1 smite was doing like 17 damage and then her rank 2 smite was doing 30
almost doubled let's go to my gear let's look what my rank 2 wrath looks like
without wearing any gear hold on let me get naked here inventory is full oh my
god hang on it's all bugged cows do this manually oh my god bugs slash reload
I'm doing this because I don't want it's weird if I look at my spells right now
rank one wrath does 50 to 53 right that's a little bit iffy let's write two
Rath 62 to 65. It's just a little awkward. Another rank 3 is 75 to 80. Keep
in mind the cast time is gaining 50% and the mana cost is going up by... is that
300% increased mana cost? But let's look... it's easier when I take off my spell
damage and you look at it without any weird numbers fucking with it. Hang on.
Do I have only things that have spell damage on it fuck is that a region bag
Okay
Shit
Bean soup out here
And I have a cloak one last thing to take off
Oh, lean wolf flank. You can go. Okay. Hello. Fuck, it's all region bag, isn't it?
Godfuckin' dammit. What do I delete? This. Four silver. Delete. Alright. So, this is zero spell damage.
Let's look at rank one wrath 10 to 13 damage you are level one. You just made your character. This is your button
Okay, and now you hit level six
All right level six. It's time to double your damage, right to get your new rank of wrath
10 to 13
16 to 19
Actually, I'll be honest. Do I have spell damage? It's supposed to be even lower than that
I swear it's even lower.
It's supposed to be 14 to 16.
It goes up by 1.
Hotfixed?
Is that it?
It's because you aren't level 6?
Huh.
You know what?
I'll make this easier, actually.
i have a a different method
intelligence does intelligence give spell power no it doesn't
it's mostly wearing spell power gear well then and we'll get to the next part
there's a reddit post showing you
uh... basically how much druids gain from spell power and it's also less than
everyone okay hold on let's just look at my level 10 druid by the way wrath 10 to 13 15 to 18 I
swear it was lower it actually might have gotten hotfixed it was like 14 to 17 before but still
that's the jump and the cast time increases spell scales with levels do they interesting
Look at the way Druid is fucking horrible
It is a it is dog shit. I think shaman
Got fucked even harder. So leveling his elemental is just not feasibly possible
Leveling his balance is not really possible. The only saving grace balance has is thorns is kind of busted
hybrid class bro, so
The problem with saying it's a hybrid class. You're supposed to not be good at anything
Is yeah, you won't be good at anything you can do everything
But you're good at literally nothing and then you end up with another build of 36 warriors being the speedrunning groups
So that's a retarded take. That's not how it's supposed to work
That's how it is
No, I like that you want
I want hybrids to be worse at everything than everyone else.
We need to get on with credit. You get a level 10. Check the discord post in DM.
Hey, here we go.
So how much spell power each spell needs to match WoW Classic damage in WoW Forever?
So... Frostbolt, you need...
How much is this? Is it like 74?
Can't be right.
Okay, look, these lines are 100. Okay, so you need...
74, 75.
Scorch needs 179.
Mage is fine. Look at Priest, by the way.
This is all priests needs 75 spell power and they're doing more damage than like base whatever
bullshit.
So my priests is that yeah priests are actually so fucking busted right now they need some
serious tune fixing warlock seems to need quite a bit 282.
for Shadowbolt. That's a pretty significant amount.
Shyamun is so strong right now, so I don't know why it looks like that, because enhancement
is busted. Just don't cast spells. But again, you should be able to play Elemental and not
get fucked. Like again, Feral Druid, you can probably go Catform and you're gonna own
when it comes to PvE, but again, do you want Druids to all have to level as Feral?
Otherwise, you're an idiot.
I don't, I personally don't want that.
I would like it if you can level as Bounce.
Feral's always going to be better simply because of the 30% move speed in Cat form.
That is 10 levels of running and getting around 30% faster.
So, Feral is going to be better, but when it comes to actually hitting spells and like,
hey, I'm killing mobs, it shouldn't be like you're a fucking idiot if you even attempt
balance.
I would prefer it's not.
And if you look at like the spell power you need to make things, like you need 346 spell
power.
That's how much spell power I had in Classic, by the way.
To make your Wrath do the same damage of Wrath in classic with zero spell power, you need
346.
That's insane.
This is for max rank.
Yeah, well, again, that's why people have like calculated the Wraths and everything.
It's not hard to do this shit in a Google document and calculate it.
It's not hard.
Um...
Yeah, so you need...
If your wrath hits for 500 in classic era, with zero spell powers, easy math, it would
never hit 500.
That'd be crazy.
But easy math, you would need 346 spell power to hit that hard.
And then you're doing as much damage as a classic druid that has zero spell power.
Zero.
zero. It's crazy. Lightning Bolt needs 353 for even more for Lightning Bolt, Jesus Christ.
I don't know what happened with the scaling here. I don't know. This is insane to me.
Absolutely fucking crazy. Surely there's going to be a fix. I just, when do they do patches
for beta.
Because isn't this when things should be getting like,
changed like crazy?
Tomorrow, the 24th?
So tomorrow.
Hopefully soon.
Yeah, I really want to see what they do.
Cause there's going to be some drastic changes
as there should be.
Who cares what's balanced at level 20?
We're not talking about what's at level 20. And this is the other thing that pisses me to fuck off.
It's pretty fucking easy to see how things will play out at 60.
When it comes to the utility classes have, when it comes to the racials that people have,
I see you out yourself as a dumb fuck.
It would know it isn't.
Well, on PvP it definitely is.
Yeah, absolutely isn't PvP. I guess y'all just don't care.
But the argument of its level 20, it doesn't matter. That to me is outing yourself as clueless.
Trinkets, enchants.
The trinkets could change things, you're right. Trinkets could be a massive change, however
it's one trinket because there's no fucking way you're not gonna be walking around with a PvP trinket, right?
I'm gonna close slash exit here. Goodbye alliance of logging out
Set bonus creep as well again the damage your character does isn't really
What's gonna make your class be overpowered in pvp, right?
Like people like oh my god warlock dots can crit now. I don't fucking care
Yeah, I'm sure it's going to be a little more damage, but what's more important is they got, and I didn't notice this, but Zika pointed it out.
They got a 20% nerf on the range of fear. That is big. I don't care if your dot's crit. I don't care about any of that.
What? Yeah. I didn't notice. So there's a tricky talent point in the Warlock Tree.
So in Classic, there's a talent point that increases the range of all of your affliction spells by 20%.
They reworded it. And now the talent point is increases the range of your damaging spells. That does not include fear.
So fear gained a 20% range nerf. And in this beta you'll notice you feel like
cast a spell on someone and then they walk out of range during the cast.
Sometimes that cast still goes off, right? You'll still get it even though this
number down here is red. A handful of people have noticed that that, what's the
word grace area where you can't people can obviously still outrun your stuff
but the grace period of which it actually allows it to happen has been
reduced so that's another nerf on fear like warlocks have to be what is 20
yards even like right here maybe you got to be right here to cast a fear and if
If they just walk away, it's probably gonna fuck it over... even more.
Look at the pose, Tuka linked and twitched. Tuka linked something? Hold on.
Tuka, can you link that again?
Here we go.
So, apparently, max rank wrath, maxed rank wrath does less damage than rank 3 fireball.
I don't know what to say. Observe the glory that is Max rank Wrath causes 58 to 64 in
nature. I understand that you know spells now scale more with spell power and all of
that but everyone's scaling the same it's just funny. Cast time in mana though. Yeah,
Yeah, I guess. Uh, well, Wrath goes down to 1.5 for two seconds.
And then you reduce it to 1.5 with the talents here.
Either way.
Surely there's gonna be a change.
The spell power graph is misleading, and here's why. Okay.
Let's read this post.
So I'm sure we've all seen the graph now, uh,
Which shows that Ellie shamans are going to need an average of three for blah blah blah
Here's the tooltip of shaman trainer shows for rank 10 lightning bolt at level 19
The difference is slight, but it is there. I'm enhanced when I'm spell power gear on me blah blah blah
So basically I think what they're pointing out is the base damage of spells is actually increasing
When you're a higher level, which is why my wrath
math here is doing 15 to 18 and it was higher, my 20 druid.
Didn't read it, summarizes it, because I already was suspecting that.
I noticed it when I was looking at the other stuff and I could pick and easily tell what
it was.
So, I'll read it, let's see if it's anything I missed.
I was misreading the while I did, according to them, the raw baseline is probably similar
to what while forever talent is showing.
This does not factor in talents or any other bonuses that you expect my kid, if nothing
Something else I'm convinced the numbers will absolutely look different at level 60.
Hell, I'm sure it'll look different at 30 when the beta expands.
So basically every 10 levels it looks different.
So going from level 10 to 20, my Wrath gained, or rank 2 Wrath gained 1 damage.
It will look different.
it be good though. One damage big. Maybe it's level 30 is a massive jump and 40 is an even
bigger jump. I don't know. But again, if that's the case, that means everyone else's spells
are also going to gain a jump in damage, right? So Wrath is still shittier than everything
else in the game. I don't know. We'll see.
So, judging 1 to 20, what does 20 to 30 have to look like for this to make sense? I don't
know. I'm 90% sure Druid is going to get a massive buff. It has to. I just don't...even...
We can all just only care about level 60, but I do think there's probably a better fix
to where Druid isn't completely butt-fucked for the first half of the leveling experience.
Isn't like the leveling actually matter?
Isn't 1 to 20, doesn't that matter?
You own rogues while being AFK?
No, I actually don't think I can beat a gnome rogue.
the rogue isn't an actual fucking retard leveling is the experience okay so
again we have this conflicting group of people where it's like it doesn't matter
60s all that matters and we have another group of people saying I don't know
druid is supposed to be bad and I just disagree I don't think druid has to be
the worst class at leveling, 1 through 20, at least not by that much of a margin.
Obviously you'll have a worst, I think. Ideally, like, because Druid can be the
worst at 1 through 20, but then he gets cat form and it becomes kind of crazy,
right? But Druid is so far behind in 1 through 20 that it's just not funny. It's
it's bad. And then leveling actually matters, so the people saying 60s, all
that matters is stupid the whole game kind of matters only max level should be
really balanced but there should be some level of balance leveling some level
at least we shouldn't be where we're at now we're literally press a button once
every 20 seconds for one through 20 and yeah maybe we're shaking a little bit of
I fucking love.
How is y'all, how is warrior damage?
Obviously PVP is gonna be unbalanced, fuck.
That's level 20 PVP, that's just how it's gonna be.
That's how, I don't, that's a Wild West thing.
But leveling.
Bombie said, will yours OP?
Why?
Scaling while leveling the retail is complete ass.
Let's not do that in classic too.
Oh, you mean like just rent? Yeah. I did a dungeon with a warrior and Prott was really
strong. Okay. I could see it. I heard Hunter is insane. I was planning on playing one.
But now I'm re-rolling Horde for a couple of reasons, um, uh, first it was an Olympus
player that I grouped up with.
They were cringe, uh, they were retarded, and they wanted it to be just annoying.
And that was whatever.
I was like, that's what we expected.
And then my world chat got completely fucked.
And then I started talking to the safe space, uh, basically all my friends who were queuing
up and yeah it's hard of linking screenshots of just annoying Olympus
plague players genuinely and the horde racials are just better for a dual
tourney not just that but there's a relic that you can get on the horde side
that reduces the mana cost of travel for are all forms by 40 you can only get it
on the horde side. And I have a meeting tonight about a duel tournament. So the game shouldn't
be balanced for a level 30 duel tournament, but I'm participating in it regardless, so
I have to play horde. All of these things kind of shoving me in that direction. Why no level
20? Level 20 duel tournament is more of a meme than the level 30. If you did a level,
If there's a dual tournament right now, I would not play.
In fact, I may not even play in level 30 if it's too unbalanced, because Priest is just
so fucking strong.
It's a waste of time.
It is a waste of time to even attempt to play.
Is Tarnager better than Skyborne?
because of War Stomp, yeah.
Read me, do you know about the Horde only idol on Beta?
Did you hear the sentences I just said?
Why is Priest so good?
So right now, you can get a wand called the Gravestone Scepter.
It is a BFD quest chain, and that wand is 29 DPS.
It's actually, that wand is why priests were good at twinking at 19.
Right?
Uh, in classic.
Not only that, but they made wands scale with spell power.
I don't fucking know why.
So, and now they increased all the spell power you can gain, so to give you an idea, when
When I wrath a target, it does about 55 damage.
And that's when they twinked out, fully geared, drew it.
More geared than honestly anyone on the server because of the gold I got from viewers.
Hydra's wand was hitting for a little over 100.
I can do, you're right, it was rank 1 wrath to be fair.
Like 3 Wrath does 75.
Now the more important part of this, not only is it that much more damage, but while I'm
casting Wrath, I am not regenerating mana because it costs mana.
Even if it costs one mana, it stops your mana regen.
Priests are constantly generating mana while wandering, meaning every bit of mana can go
and they don't get pushed back.
And they made it to where wands can essentially be casted while moving.
I mean, do we need to talk more about how fucking pusted this is?
So, and again, the game's not going to be balanced to level 20,
but if you did a level 20 duel tournament, I would not play.
It would be a waste of time.
I'm at the heart, actually.
I'll be honest, I don't know if it's gonna, if surely we get like, my worry is in this
beta we're gonna not get any changes, which is fine I guess, but then one massive change
before the release day of Classic.
I mean that would be kind of cool, actually, but I feel like whatever changes they do in
the beta need to go through multiple steps of changes. Also, why is it so dark?
What is this? Holy fuck.
Yeah, turn these shadows down? What is going on? Is that how it is?
It's called a sunrise contract god damn options graphics. What do I what do I need to fuck with here?
Secondary lighting shadows okay shadow quality low
Wow, that is hideous. I fucking hate that this is like an actual gameplay advantage. That sucks.
Let's try a high. Oh my god. Secondary lighting high. Secondary lighting. Okay.
Oh look at that. Okay now this doesn't look so fucking shit too. Let me turn my shadows
back up. Alright cool. Thank you gamers. You see Zaryu and Mage is saying that Mage needs
PvP buffs.
I did and they're probably right and
Again, this is actually I got so mad listening to people saying it's only level 20. It doesn't matter
Do you guys think that they don't understand how this is gonna play out at higher level?
It's only level 20 it doesn't matter they're talking about what it will look like at 60
Yeah, you can have some weird gear and maybe some set bonuses, but they're gonna, they're gonna, I can tell you how Druid's gonna play out at 60 in the current patch of the game.
You can tell you exactly, and they can tell you exactly how Mage is gonna play out.
Do you think they do? Absolutely.
Yeah.
I disagree with that.
with that. Again, you can have weird engineering trinkets that are going to be brought into
the game. You can maybe have some weird gimmicky set bonuses, but a lot of dueling is what
I'll focus on because it's one on one. Let's do Rogue vs. Mage. The entire duel is getting
a polymorph on the Rogue. It's not a damage, it's a utility check. It's all about utility
and one class is trying to lock down the other. Once they lock them down, the duel's over.
That's it. If I get a rogue in a full route, the duel's over. If I get a warrior in a full route,
the duel's over. That's the whole duel. And then you're throwing in all these different classic
utility gnome ratio, getting out of a route. Rogues have two vanishes they can go through,
or they may have improved Sprint giving them four group breaks.
So, and a lot of that utility in the game has not changed.
Yeah, there's a little bit more damage.
Maybe the game will turn into just a Zugfest of who can crit harder instantly,
but I don't think it'll be that.
So if we're going to look at just utility in the game,
you can kind of see when you're lacking utility
and you're just going to lose everything.
And listening to the Mage Council, they were talking about how...
Basically, you only have Frost Block, or Ice Block is Frost.
And the other two Specs are now not viable in PvP.
Maybe that's how it should be.
Maybe if you want a PvP as a Mage, you have to play Frost.
There's no other exception, that's how it was in Classic.
But I agree, I don't think that's how it should be.
I think all mages should get ice block baseline. I'd be okay with that. I'm a druid player
I'm okay with that absolutely
But if you want to ice blocks you got to go frost you want cold snap
Honestly frost is still better
It probably still better
And ice block in PvE. I mean is it that really? Is it gonna?
Break everything
Ice block should be baseline. I'd be okay with that genuinely. Yeah
Warrior is so nervous disgusting and we can do yeah warrior. I
Think the rage isn't calculating correctly bear form is also being kind of fucked, but I'm just gonna elder rise
The warriors have always the way warriors should be at least in my opinion
opinion, they should be raging fucking monsters that are heavily susceptible to CC.
They have intercept, but that's kind of how it is.
Like when you deal with a warrior in classic, you're like, alright, this warrior has intercept.
We can CC him, but he's gonna charge me.
As soon as you give him charge in combat, you start getting over-stimmed, and you don't
pay attention, you just think this warrior's not getting off of me.
But when they're on you, you should be dying harder than any other class when they're on
you.
That's how I feel warrior should be.
Greetings.
What about Rogue?
Not as much as...
Oh, Rogue does a lot of damage, but Rogue also locks you down in a cheap and then a kidney.
So, Rogue's...
I mean, then you gotta balance this for PvE.
This is tough, man.
This is tough.
But yeah, lower damage because they're CC monsters.
I'm gonna put my spells in my bar.
Taunt and maul.
Excellent.
Cool.
Rogue should get Shadow Step because Druids have Feral Leap.
No.
God, no.
Fuck, no.
If Rogue's had Shadow Step, so this is what I was talking about where like Rogue versus
Mage is actually a very balanced matchup.
have shadow step they win every time it's over. Ferrell's having leap. Ferrell
druid I don't see being a good PvP spec. It never has been because when you go
against an actual good player at max level you just get CC'd. We'll just shift
the roots. You'll be able to shift maybe five times and you will be completely
tapped and even then when you shift you don't you're on GCD so let's let's
Druid vs mage. You're a feral druid.
The mage does a frost nova. You shift it.
And now you're on this GCD.
And by the time the GCD is off, you are cone of cold.
Okay, you shift again. Now the mage pyroblasts you,
and maybe, I don't know, the cone of cold itself.
You're low HP. You need to heal.
You're just gonna, let's do hunter. You get to a hunter.
He wing clips you. And he starts walking away.
Alright, let me shift out. He winclips you again, and he just walks away I
Guess you can feral charge and it like daze is it has like the the slight
You can't leap does it's does it not daze there's no slow to cat form leap
And now you don't have bear charge to immobilize a motherfucker
so
No row getting shadow step would break the game feral charge getting cat leap
This shit is just shit. It's just it's not actually good
It's it's giving a little bit of mobility to a class or a spec that isn't even remotely a threat
That's how I feel about Feral Charge Cat for max level
And it's a PvP spell by the way, so
This isn't a PvE spell at all
Maybe for tanking
So giving Rogue Shadow Step is just dumb as fuck.
You can jump, how is it not?
I guarantee you most people that go to raid will not be taking Feral Charge unless they're
tanking.
Rogue Subspec should get buffed so it's not only 15% APROC with 60 Energy Backstab,
It's like one proc, each six slash seven, stupid as fuck as well, they should get Cloak.
If you gave Rogues Cloak, you break the game.
Now, I don't think this is the case, but to some people, fuck it.
Fuck it all.
PvP is now not even a part of the game anymore.
Completely ignore it.
And sure, I don't fucking care if you get Cloak.
Oh.
Good.
Let's go to retail.
It's a retail angle, to be honest with you.
I gotta re-log.
Uh, Alliance Racial Suck and Vibes Out of Horde are probably gonna be better. Olympus is actually a plague.
I'm not even beaming.
What if Shadowsep is only usable on stealth and using it immediately unstelts you?
Well, no, I mean, if it's only usable in stealth, that would still probably break the game a little bit because Vanna's Shadow Steps.
Like, obviously it's a new game, and I do think a lot of people look at classic PvP as this unbalanced trash.
It's actually really fucking balanced. I think it's really balanced for what it is.
And then y'all throw these things in these utilities and it I mean I guess it's gonna be a new game, but
It's gonna fuck a lot up
No, it's not it actually is
It's genuinely pretty fucking balanced in a lot of matchups and this is coming from a druid druid is arguably the worst
PvP class in classic
It's pretty balanced
good one maybe not well yeah warrior might okay warrior if we're gonna talk
1v1's warrior sure
so who's gonna be able to kill a warlock apparently warlocks are nerfed
immensely because of the fear reduction we'll have to see warlock is one of
those cases where we got to see the actual damage that people dish out and
then maybe we'll see how good it is but warlocks got a pretty big nerf in pvp
she finished the quest shadow priest is gonna be discussing yeah I think it will
be. You sound like you just don't like change. I'd let them cook and see what
they have for the game. Sure, I mean again, like if rogues get shadow step,
then other classes would need, I can tell you how that looks on paper and how
it's gonna play out. Rogues are now impossible to get off and they will beat
every single class. They already kind of beat every single class. Other classes
didn't get utility to deal with it. They did not. Um, I guess Swiftmend? But no. No. The
whole Druid vs Rogue is getting the Druid off. Rogue vs Mage, the Mage is trying to
get the Rogue off. Um, giving them Cloak or giving them Shadow Step, they just win every
single time. It's not even like a thing anymore. Um. I don't think that would affect a lot
of the other. No, it probably fuck over Paladin in some way. It would fuck over
a warrior. Which Rogue again already beats all of these. And I don't know what
tools those classes I just listed got to deal with Rogue. They didn't get any.
Hunter. Oh yeah, Hunter just loses now. Well maybe not. Hunters did get a
disarm which they could disarm the rogue while being opened on see that's cool
I'd be okay with like rogues getting cool fucking utility when classes like
hunter get you know other cool utility to deal with it but I don't see a lot of
the classes just didn't didn't quite get that utility what does arm hunters had
well I just don't I don't know what hunters are gonna probably run around
with but hunter pets are insane and it's a pretty insane choice I don't know
what I would want to walk around with you can get a crocodile you actually have
an MS like a permanently permanent uptime MS it's a six second cooldown and it
lasts 10 seconds that's what you get with a crocodile an owl you can have a
disarm for four seconds again a rogue could be cheap shotting you into a
kidney. You can disarm them while you're stunned. That's insane. You got web. I'm pretty basic
for Hunter. That's not the biggest deal, but the other two I just listed are kind of nuts.
I'd probably walk in with a crocodile. It's just you can't not have that. You can trap
well in combat. Yeah, you got a lot of tools that you've gained. Scattershot and Frostrap
in combat. What is Mortal Strike? Mortal Strike reduces healing by 50%. The only class that
can do that is Warrior. That's why Arms is usually the king in PvP. That's why when a
Warrior is on you, you're probably dying. Rogues have wound poison, but they don't typically
play it because it has to stack up to five times, and you usually don't reach five stacks
by the time it really mattered or was needed.
So now hunters have that with the pet.
Which class has got the best hardcore friendly changes?
Hardcore friendly changes?
Hunter?
Trapping while in combat is big.
is just busted across the board. I don't, you're asking specifically hardcore, but like,
you might as well ask what the overpowered glasses are. Lay on hands 20 minutes is a
big deal. Ghost Wolf indoors. I wonder if you can travel form indoors. That'd be insane.
I heard there's a fox pet for hunters later, and we don't know what it does. Shamans. I
I don't know the status of Shamans, but I have an idea.
Basically you cannot play as elemental.
Your spells don't do any damage, but you do a pretty good amount of damage with like
rock fighter weapon and just auto attacking honestly.
So enhancement is pretty strong right now.
Fired Ova is doing some damage too.
I'm definitely gonna like I was gonna level a hunter alt today. That was that's what today was gonna be
But I got a level of horde druid now
so
Who's the best healer at the moment priest every the priest is the best class in the game right now level 20
But what will be the best at 60? I don't know. That's surely things get tuned
Do you think Nelfrog is bis? You can use a loon in stealth, but Eureka removes stealth.
No. I don't think no. I don't know. Bis for what? PvP or PvE?
I think PvE is whatever. Pick whatever fucking race you want. At the end of the day, the damage will be pretty evened out.
Of course, Priest should be the best healer.
Only class with two healing specs.
Well, then in that case, we're going to bring four priests to the raid.
We're not going to bring the other classes.
that's how that turns out. And you know what, if you don't do that, your group is bad.
Is a 1% haste on the new race even worth it for PB? The new race is awful. They need
some love. And I'm of the minority, it feels like, that the Skyborne should be on par with
the other races in some shape or form and I'm a little biased I'm a fucking
druid and we finally got another race that is like oh my god I don't have to
play a cow home fuck and it's god-awful it is trash across the board horrible
pve and pvp Taryn is fine I fucking hate Taryn I think the cultivation I
And I think this is shit and should get absolutely removed like crazy.
I think War Stomp should be up to 3 seconds.
And I'd even go as far as Cultivation should be replaced by another spell that is actually
used.
Endurance is good.
3 seconds is too much.
Keep in mind, Nome Priests have a AoE blind.
That's 3 seconds.
Stomp in my opinion should be three seconds
The we have to remember what classes can be
Druid or not druid it can be Tarn. It's druid shaman warrior and hunter
That's it
Warriors are gonna DR their war stomp all the fucking time shaman
They can get one cast off with a war stomp
And war stomp got indirectly nerfed by there being humans in the game having a fucking stun trinket at all times
And Orc has 20% reduced stun duration just for dueling so pretty nerfed. I
Do think war stop needs some love
If not worse don't leave it as is but they should replace cultivation with an actual useful ability
Like if you're making a warrior on horde you should not be I'm gonna go orc because it's the best and that's currently where we're kind of at
What- what other race would you play as a warrior on Horde?
I mean, really.
Troll? Troll?
For the- the fucking hell- so I can level faster!
What the fuck up? Yeah, it was- Troll is horrible.
Just first aid.
Undead? Undead is stupid as fuck.
But, uh, I'm- you have wool for sakin' and you're just- you're- sorry, I'm getting aggressive.
I'm getting aggressive, I'm sorry.
Heh heh heh heh heh.
Berserking? Yeah, you're just fucking berserking the fear. You don't need wool in the forsakin'.
So that's the point. Undead at warrior is kind of a joke.
And you can talk about Touch of the Grave, but I think all these PVE passives are gonna even out.
I think if you're playing a PvE or a class
Which Hunter Rations do you think are the best for Horde?
Touran with 1% hit or stealth with 1% haste
It used to be an easy choice with troll but now it's questionable
For a Hunter?
I would go Orc
For the stun resist or stun duration reduction
It's not even a question
If you can play Orc, you should play Orc
And I think all the PvE passives people are talking about
I think they're gonna get evened out.
They're gonna be different.
Like one's gonna be 10% haste with night elf or crit
and one might be troll and get your 10% haste
and Orc is just flat 10% damage.
They're slightly different.
One might be slightly better,
but even in the passives, 1% hit or 1% crit,
it's gonna even out.
When it comes to PvE,
you should play the race you actually want to.
When it comes to PvP,
you're kind of you got to play the right race so at that point you should make a
PvP selection not a PvE selection even if you're a PvE here unless you're on a PvE
server and you're actually never gonna fucking do PvP at all ever it's fine
that's where I'm kind of sad I wish that was the case like I they should make it
to where, you know, Orc have their 20% reduction to stuns, so you go against rogues, these
rogues are really sad.
If you play Undead, you can remove Fear as a rogue, uh, versus a Warlock, these Warlocks
are sad.
Who's really sad when they're like, oh shit, it's a Tarn.
Who's sad?
Because Tarn's suck.
Who's sad when they go against, uh, if I see a Gnome, I'm like, great, I can't nature
scram this guy.
I'm not going to be able to get this gnome off. I'm probably just going to lose because it's a gnome.
Same with trolls. I don't give a fuck if I see a troll. If I see a troll, to me it's like nice. It's a free win.
Jorff? I think Jorff is pretty strong. Being able to remove blind really fucks over rogues.
And in Bleeds have their moments. And just the damage reduction. It's a good racial.
But I think Dwarf is also just ugly and it's not
Gnome and human are comparable. So why would you play Dwarf?
What is song Sony get fourth place is a warrior turn
Lee way and war stomp can have its moments versus rogues
But Sony would absolutely agree that he'd be better off if he played orc
He did it because he played a taran back in the day
That was a power move to select hard to be fair
It's not better
Why don't you just ask him?
You got some more of those beta keys? Oh, I don't actually
Roar Rogue, still play Orc?
I think on Rogue you can play Horde, Undead, and Orc both work.
The other two, well you can't play Tarn, but Troll, if you play Troll you're Trolling.
When it comes to Alliance, you can play Gnome or Human.
Dwarf and Night Elf is Trolling.
Skyoff is trolling for everything. Don't play Skyoff. It's bad right now. It's not good in any way.
Stone form? No, not as comparable.
Gnome is busted, uh, more busted, and human is the most busted, I think.
I can do a race tier list.
Should I just fucking do a race? Like is this-
Because it's gonna be consistently the same thing.
Should I Google race to your list and see what I get? Just leave it like that.
Race to your list. That actually brought up wow for me. Okay.
Close. Alright.
So does our made a short about you. Oh, did he?
I saw soda sucks. Oh, yeah, true. It's have a leaf now. Wait,
didn't soda say that that spells irrelevant? It's useless.
Ah, feels real irrelevant. Soda sucks.
Soda sucks. Whoa.
Oh
Hello dual soda gets straights
Oh, do I read these comments soda doesn't even read half the skills he got
Soda is literally the best and worst representative of the druid class unfortunately. What the fuck?
The leap and snake is crazy
spitting facts
The snake speaks truth
Soda, canonically, has always been the worst.
He's essentially saying that bear charges more value, but most likely won't be the case in forever.
Soda evolved to only like underdog playstyles. He does this with every game. That's actually true, actually.
I still would only pick Soda as my druid. He was, and is truly impressive. Oh, look at that. Someone guy saying something positive.
Soda was never really a feral. He's a wrath Andy for PvP and classic as a wrath Andy who PvP is classic
I know one when I see one
Is that a bot are they bots? I don't know if they're people
He's so boosted all the time I watch his content
Soda is just the loudest fluid, not the best. He went balanced when Farrell is really good.
But it's never been good in classic. Farrell's always been horrible. What are we talking about?
Soda became washed when he became a stoner. The weed got on top of him and took his attention span
and competitive edge interesting interesting okay here was here's a
tier list okay here's all the classes races oh god it's the new ones okay so
we're gonna put the sky elves in D tier it's not even Alliance and Horde it's
they're just awful. In S tier we're gonna put human, we're gonna put gnome, we're
gonna put orc, we're gonna put... Undead may be A tier.
We're gonna put Tarn and Night Elf in C tier, Troll in C tier, and Dwarf in B tier.
That's your tier list. Undead might be S tier, like it's a pretty big fucking
gap it might be something like this yeah in terms of PvP when it comes to PvE I
do think that night elf might go to B tier no for a P if it's just PvE night
elf might go a cuz crit like orcs gain 10% damage right and trolls gain 10%
haste. Night Elves gain 10% crit. Crit, however, can be flexible, or not flexible, expanded
upon. Like, you get more than 10% damage with 10% crit because of something like, say,
deep wounds as a warrior. But that's PVE. I do think that in PVE, the actual DPS differential
of each race will be significantly reduced. It's not going to be a big deal. It's pretty
easy to balance these 2% crit passives and these 1% hit rating. It's not hard to balance
that stuff. But what is not easy to balance is the utility from Racial's in PvP. So I
do think your race pick should come down to PvP. Unless you're on a PvE server and you're
going to avoid PvP like the plague, then you don't care. But if you're on a PvP server,
your choice should be PvP based, even if you're not a PvP.
That's, uh, I just feel you would regret it later.
And this is the list, as of now.
Hopefully it's gonna change.
I really hope it does.
Like, Tarin, in order to make Tarin equal
with this S tier selection here, again,
Undead Maiko a being able to remove fear is really fucking good stuns are a little bit more aides though
And more
Flexible
Orcs having reduced stuns and then humans having a century again and gnome is just kind of crazy all the ratios combined
It's not it's the movement removing and Eureka itself is really good
This is 100% for 1v1? No, no, no, no. This is the game in PvP, even world PvP.
If you're out in the world and a rogue opens on you, getting out of the sun, you got a mage on you, you got this on you, it's fucking nuts.
This is everything, all variations of PvP. This is the best.
Alright, oh wow, here's a class list.
Dude we're at level 20 right now, so this is kind of a meme.
And I haven't actually leveled each class myself.
And what are all these, there's a lot of specs in here. Oh God.
I don't think I'd want to do it like this. Is there, maybe I do this list instead.
This is a little simpler and easier to go by, I think.
So Priest is S tier. It's not even a question. It's the most busted class.
Maybe Warlock A tier. These two classes are here right now because of Wanding.
Wanding is their biggest thing. And self healing.
So right now
The game is pretty slow-paced everyone is twinked out. It's not a good representation of the game the game's unbalanced because we're in the fucking beta, but
Moving past that you have self healing as a priest and you have wands and the wands are OP
They're scaling with spell power right now. They were already fucking overpowered
While you're wanting you're able to regen mana because you're not considered casting
Priest is gonna be by far and away the strongest
Because of the stronger self-healing
Warlock does have self-healing, but again, it's like
Drain life. It's not as good, but you still just wand your highest EPS is winding may just don't have self-healing, but they have ones
But I think they're down and like the D may be C tier
They have AOE for big world PVP like you're the damage
Honestly, but they kind of just suck
Warriors are D tier, Druids are D tier, Paladins are probably A tier, Hunters again no self healing, but your damage is so good.
I might put you in B tier, rogues I think are C tier.
Shamans I want to put in D tier, but correct me if I'm wrong. Do shamans do a lot of damage like melee?
like I think they're really strong with like enhancement
druid your the damage is just awful
I guess I'll put them in C tier they might be better than warrior I guess
balance druid can't do any damage
feral druid is just sitting in bare form not doing any damage like you just can't do damage to druid
you literally can't hurt things
Their health cannot go down, but you can CC and kite, maybe.
Um, this is PvP, by the way, because...
Fuck, I should clarify. This is PvP.
If we want to talk about leveling,
uh, again, I haven't played each one of these classes.
Oh, blue tracker topic, shooting bug fix incoming.
We've been tracking the issue in a while for everybody to where the 0.5 second cast time that precedes a hunter's auto-shot
Or the use of a wand is not functioning properly?
Due to a bug, these autoshots are currently incurring a much shorter cast sign, which
impractics me as hunters and wonder users.
Okay?
This is something you will fix in an upcoming beta build, hopefully next week.
Good.
Um...
Good.
Thank God.
Still, I don't think it changes my list.
doesn't change the list. But this is PvP at level 20 and a beta that is going to be balanced
and where people are twinking out getting level 29 wands at level 20. Like maybe this
will look, this is what like 19 twinking will look like right now. Maybe rogues a little
higher? No? No. Rogues at 19 twinking would be considered bad. Priests are that good.
If you had a level 20 War Song Golds Twink Tournament, it would be 10 Priests versus 10 Priests, and I'm not meeting.
I don't know where Shamans are at. I have no clue.
Their Spell Power Scaling is really fucking broken, just like Druid, where it's bad.
But I think enhancement's really good.
So you can just melee people, and it does above Paladin. Is it up there? I don't know.
Shaman is top EPS every dungeon. Again, they're talking about PvP though.
So maybe I'll put Shaman's in A, but I'm not positive. Now let's redo the list.
Now we're gonna do leveling. Okay? Drew it in the way you're our D tier. Lock that
in. They're the worst. I think Rhett might be S tier. Hunters are probably S tier.
I don't know where priests are at, I don't know rogues, mages.
The one thing I'm confident on is S and D tier.
I know Hunter and Paladin's crazy, and I know Warrior and Druid is fucking horrible.
I don't know any of these other classes how they are leveling.
Well Druids get cap from a 20, but this is a tier list of leveling 1 through 20, right?
They don't have it yet. They're D tier.
Priest is insane.
Warrior is nice, NGL with the new crafting weapons and dungeon weapons. You have amazing DPS. Is warrior good?
Okay.
I don't think and here's the thing. I can go on the classic while Reddit and there are posts upon posts of people complaining about
how bad Druid leveling is. I haven't seen that for the other classes. So I'm
Trying to not be biased here, but I really do think Druid is the worst leveling class by miles once it is horrible
No shot it is I will die on this hill. I'll argue with you. I
Don't again. I don't know the other classes
Joker leveled one and it was terrible before spell power. It's it's unplayable really. It's awful. Well, you're a seat here
Okay, how's mages when it comes to leveling?
I was watching Zaru pull like three mobs at level 12 and killed him no problem afterwards.
He just AoE'd them down, or maybe it was 14, Arcane Explosion.
I was like, damn, wish I could fucking do that.
So mages might be up there.
A solid A tier, maybe.
Uh, how are rogues?
Rogues inherently are just really good melee damage dealing when they can just hit things.
Probably see with warrior though, cause no self healing, they're taking hits, they don't have tools yet.
They also don't have poison, still 20, right? So, that fucks them over a bit.
Proposes mega busted better than warrior, so maybe be tier
Do you want this heavy copper mall sure I'll take it yeah
So put them lower be what about warlock
Usually these are like an a tier class. They're insane at leveling, but I don't know
They're just good all the way through.
I might even put them in the S.
The spells don't do anything.
But you do have your wand.
Enhances S-J.
Wario is anything higher than the sea is coping.
Wario struggles even at level 20 with dungeon gear to manage three mobs at the same time.
The likelihood of dying with just two mobs on you is like 50%.
Man, hold on, do I still have my old staff?
Fuck!
So I just got this weapon, this goblin smasher, and it's pretty good, I won't lie.
8.2 DPS. I do you should have seen me killing mobs before this I almost want to pull a plane Shrider
I just want you all to see what it's like. Let's take all my other buffs off here one plane Shrider level 11
Here we go
I'm not gonna do bear form because I haven't leveled my feral combat
But Barry it wouldn't be much different. We're gonna moonfire. This is it
How about his druid off healing in feral gear gonna be to heal dumbs while leveling or in pvp
Cuz no spell power on feral gear are we gonna do 50% of heals and range dmg compared to era or more
But we got a parry
What just how bad is druid off healing and feral dude, yeah feral's aren't really gonna be hybrids anymore
You're just gonna be a rogue
With like zero
Heals so feral's have always had a talent called nurturing instinct which increases your healing based on your agility
five gold
I'll take it. I don't care
Thank you gamer. Were you not giving me the mace? Oh, that was the other guy. Well, look how do you want five gold?
Chill bro scammer you dog. See why?
And I don't fucking care. Let's go gamer
Uh...
I don't need more gold right now. I'm just...
I don't need the gold for anything.
I'll take it for now, but I don't need more. Anyways, what was I saying?
There was something I was... Oh yeah, someone wanted to see Wrath. You guys ready for Wrath?
Here we go. Prepare yourself. This is gonna get intense.
Let's do some balance questing.
to be fair I wasn't using my moonfire it's moonfire up real quick actually I'm using rank
1 wrath right now the reason I'm using rank 1 wrath is it's half the mana cost for it's
It's an overall net gain for damage per mana, right?
Take that, do you want it? Alright, I'll take those.
We'll do a rank two wrath.
Surely rank two wrath costs double the mana,
so it's gonna do way more damage, right?
You would think.
Let's give this another go.
See how this plays out here.
It's a longer cast time as well, keep in mind.
Oh, this guy's cheesein' my shit.
Nice.
Oh, I got a waylake crate.
Let's try that again.
I'm half mana.
I'll keep up my moon fire.
Okay, moon.
There we go.
That's how that works.
Okay, it's a little rough out there.
I'm just justifying that Druid and D tier for a second. It's not good.
I think this is probably your 1 through 20 tier list as of right now.
I think I'd rather have an old rat that's rain mana, but also get damage. Yeah.
Yeah.
So, really, the most DPS I can do is actually just sitting there, moonfire, and then auto attack with my mace.
oh thank you gamer nice you brought me have a couple nice level 11 I need a
level up bear form we'll see I can't really see what bear form does because
feral's now have a feral combat weapon skill which is fine cool change but it's
gonna be a little rough for a second put druid and f tier if I could I would it
really is that horrible druid needs some serious looking at him kind of sounding
a broken record but I'm not wrong. Are people gonna grind a multiple level 25 class in professions
to get legacy points for the level 30 turnie? Uh, so we have a meeting tonight talking about
that. I can certainly see that being a lot better once you get some spell power too.
Yeah, you're right. Once you get spell power, it's better. I gotta re-log. My FPS is horrible.
But even then, Wrath still does like no damage. If we look at Smite from a priest at level 20
with full spell power? How much... I need someone to do a smite on a fully geared level 20 priest
and tell me how much it does.
DM.
This is Kangan soloing dungeons.
Oh, he's pretty geared, is he not?
that's what you struggle with, you can use the whole food raid before the event and then you also have the red stuff for the event if that's like the one hard part in the dungeon
and then it's probably fine, I guess
oh they're standing there, ahhh
he's actually just not taking any damage
Damage
Okay, two elites and he's like half health
Okay
I'll be honest, I could probably do this on a druid if I just went feral, I just went
bear form.
This is a level 16 dungeon?
I don't know if this, again he's also twinked out, like he's got a helmet level 20 crafted,
he probably has, he has cruel barb, he's got all the quest items from BFD, I mean it's
just not a good representation of what it'll look like.
I mean Druid also gets good once you get gear. Everything gets good when you get gear.
I just, you don't have gear for a pretty long fucking time and it's miserable otherwise.
Uhh...
Here we go.
Hmm.
Bareform. Forgot. I gotta train this.
How does Druid change on the tier list when you consider 20 to 30?
Uh, if you play, I mean you have to play Cat Form.
So there's two options to level.
Currently in the state of the druid.
Uh, thorns leveling, so big AoE pools and abusing people with thorns.
Jesus, someone buffed me with 27 thorns.
Who did that?
Take that off.
I'm trying to train things and play the game.
Um.
or cat form and just standard druid cat form kill mob heal up kill kill mob heal
up kill mob heal up that's currently the only way to play the game as a druid
and it's really good both of those I just don't know if it compares to the other side
you said he doesn't like shaman and peekaboo is so cocky making click his
abilities only no keyboard hashtag only fang's free I think
drew it'll probably still be up there though 20 to 30 cat form you get 30%
move speed so you run around faster I mean that's more important than your time
to kill almost I just wish you didn't have to play that you cannot level as
balance just can't Olympus is what puts me off alliance thoughts yeah I left
alliance
Druids get ones no but I do wish they put more relics in the game I mean I
I think we've gotten kind of used to the fact that relics are this novelty that you don't get until like level 20 or
2060 and even then there's like five relics to swap from
Imagine if there were so many relics in the game. They were abundant like
I get then again wands are easier because it's just you know wand does this DPS
Relics are like an unused
Passive
Yeah, no, I agree with you
Sure
I mean, yeah, I kind of agree, I think Warriors are fine
Uh...
And then there's the argument of, you know, some classes don't need to be good at leveling
I do think every class should have a breaking point where they're really good though
Like Druids can stay shit 1 through 20.
That's just the nature of Druid.
And then they get really good at 20.
Sure.
I'm okay with that.
It's not the biggest deal to me.
But I just don't know if Catform gets that breaking point with the wand situation and
Shamans just are good the entire way up.
Like they're never bad.
Paladins are good the entire way up.
They're never bad.
the movement no they no shamans of ghost wolf Jesus I also just don't know the
teams like vision on balancing when it comes to low level anything is low level
just gonna is it the Wild West in classic it was
shaman falls off in later levels I don't know if they will though and wow
forever. Why would they fall off?
Okay, alright, alright, my man. Jesus. Sure, I'll take some crafted gear. Actually, do I
wear this? I don't fucking care. Sure, whatever. I've already leveled it, Drew. I
I know how shit it is someone made an ad on that auto mutes chatting invites from
anyone in an Olympus guild must have a few ever play alliance link yeah I saw that
there was another cool add-on that show back was linking around it's like a
world PvP add-on like there's nothing to do at 20 and motherfuckers want to play
their shit. I know it's a meme but basically it turned Ashenvale into a
battleground called Overlord. I have it downloaded. I just turned it off because
it's annoying me while leveling. I don't think it's gonna, I don't know if it'll
become a thing though because you can only really, everyone would have to have
it downloaded and I don't think most people are gonna have that downloaded.
Instead, I just kind of walk around at Ashenvale and just kill people that walk
by or try to. I can't really kill anyone. I actually can't kill a fucking single player.
Their health just irath them and their health doesn't move.
Yeah, I gotta use my talent point on what though. Just go fucking ferocity.
Maybe I heal in dungeons. It's just easier.
I could go to haul or RFC right now actually and just heal check the M's again
The developer weighs in on the battle of wow F. Who was made for?
Nebraska boy, I'm seeing a lot of discourse about who wow forever is made for and while I cannot speak for anyone else on the team
I can speak for myself. I'm making love forever for the classic gamer
For the millions of people who have had their accounts lapsed over the years because they
were not satisfied with changes that were made to the game, whether those changes were
the art style, the story, social aspects, game design, or changes to their favorite
class.
I did not spend the last year of my life relearning and mastering how to do things like we did
20 plus years ago for retail players.
I could have taken it easy and just kept doing things I had done for the best eight years
on retail because I was much more familiar with it and it actually takes a lot less
time to do, height maps on textures, do a ton of heavy lifting, because the reality is that the
majority of retail players wouldn't care, and would probably actually prefer it. But I felt I
had a duty to uphold an artistic vision, an integrity that millions of people expect from us,
but not just for our players, but for my co-workers past and present who worked on it over 20 years
ago. If I could not create something that resembled their work, then I failed not only them, but
myself please do not take this as throwing shade at retail players or any
or shade at retail players or the retail team because I am one myself but I
wanted to make forever as authentic of a vanilla experience as possible this
involves making decisions wildly different than retail it means holding
the line against changes that create a domino effect down the road that's true
it means keeping friction and inconveniences in the game it means
Finding friends and forming groups strangers being social because while social aspects have been the pillar of the game in over the years
It has slowly been
chiseled away
With changes that allow you to play alone
Since the day I started working on the Riverglades, I have lived by three sayings
Convenience is the death of the journey if you're making a that's
Yeah, if you're making a game for everyone, then you're making it for no one.
And every change we make incurs a debt to the authenticity of the game, and sooner or later the debt will be paid.
It's just some bars.
These are my core beliefs, and I had a specific group of people I was targeting with my work.
These beliefs cannot be shaken, and I will try to hold the line against anything that goes against them,
and will continue to pester the team about things that I feel are out of place.
That being said my hope is that forever will push as many people
Or pull in as many people as possible whether you're a retail gamer a classic gamer someone who hasn't played in years or even a new player
I hope you can all remember what made this game so special
Okay, understanding why we're so passionate about keeping it authentic. Oh, of course, Esfand is here
Twitter
Actually have a question. I want to know y'all's opinion on this
Do you think
Line of sight should be consistent in classic wow
So in other words, there are some trees in this game that are LOS and then some are not
To me I
Don't I don't even know what it is like that. It's this subconscious thought process that I've had over 20 years
I just I just know what is LOS and what isn't I can't tell you why or why not I just know I
I don't think that's good design though.
I think it should be changed and if something, sure maybe like this hill for example, maybe terrain shouldn't be LOS, but at least that's a consistent thing.
But a tree, or a building, or this gate over here.
Like I know, actually I don't, is that gate over there LOS? I don't even fucking know.
But, I don't know what y'all's thought process are.
I guess it depends on the tree. No, there are some trees that are LOS and some that aren't and I don't know
What determines what?
I don't mind terrain again like this hill shouldn't be LOS
Yeah, that's just how it is terrain isn't it but again now you have like a consistent formula. Oh
Okay
Well shit gamer hang on. Looks like I'm just cheating the whole leveling system here. I'm gonna have to give you some stuff
Good enough
Okay, thank you gamer three agi
Three agi or two spear I'll take the four agi
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Final answer lock it in
He's not gonna tell me from right or wrong
profession to your list no one knows for level 20 it's tailoring blacksmithing and
leatherworking the fuck I faced like there's a lot of gear the only I guess
This engineering does have a helmet, kind of, with a lot of stamp on it, but you can
make a lot of very, very good gear with professions.
Like helmet, you can make gloves, you can make a belt, you can make pants, you can make
boots, and you have to be the profession to do that.
But that's... you don't know what it's actually going to be later on.
Once level 30 is unlocked and you get different patterns and the gear like trinkets come online,
things of that nature, it's going to shake everything up.
What race would you most want to get fucked by?
I can make a tier list.
Oh shit, four agility chests, the fuck.
Oh stringy wolf made a need for cooking.
Okay.
Ugh.
If you power shift, does it mess up your action bar?
Yeah, it's a bug.
They got to fix that.
I think if I'm in bear form and if I, oh hold on, it does it sometimes, I swear.
Here we go.
Look at my action bar.
I'm in bear form, but it's wrath and moonfire and it happens sometimes.
Report it.
You think I haven't?
people haven't? Nothing's gotten fixed yet. I'm surprised it's honestly taken this long
for like there to be anything. But I guess it's just once per week. Apparently there's
an update tomorrow. I mean, dude, this update has to be like a fucking seven, it's gotta
be a Bible worth of like pages. It's gonna be massive. Surely. It's three lines. It's
three things.
Windsor podcasting. I don't know. Good clash. I don't know.
Ah, pure light-eyed insults.
I don't make armor kits. I need coarse thread.
A lot of course shreds.
Is there a trade?
Trade supplies.
In general.
Okay, cool.
There's a course right here.
Nice.
Spirits be with your man.
Okay.
Yeah, I don't believe you're going to be playing the elf faction, Unk.
Okay.
I'll be honest, I really wish I could play Skyborne, uh, Horde Elf.
If their ratios were even slightly comparable to the others, I'd log in so quick. I hate being a fucking cow.
But War Stop, dude, I don't care.
You take the Zeppelin from TBT for the idle yet? No. Maybe I should go do that.
and I don't think I'm I don't know if I'm gonna go alliance on release it I want to
play horde I'm at a point where I want to play horde instead I just need the game to
give me a reason to go horde when it comes to racials just just us just buff us something
Somewhere make it somewhat comparable, and I'm going horde right away. That's kind of where I'm at
Dude my FPS is just getting absolutely cooked out here 46 and what is happening I'm spam-relogging too
Maybe I can go do that Sky Elf Relic, I should go get it.
The earlier I get it, the better.
So how do I get to the Sky Elf Place?
Relog?
Thunder Bluff?
Okay.
It's north of Thunder Bluff.
Is it in Thunder Bluff, or is it like on the floor?
Like in other words...
Should I go up the elevators for this, or no?
So it's outside. Interesting, so...
Oh, it's this...
Probably this little thing right here, right?
Okay.
Alt-F4 the game, your FPS will be fixed.
My FPS is fixed, I just had to re-log.
There's an ugly blue zeppelin and you'll know it when you see it, okay?
Secondary lighting on fair.
Well, I mean, I turn that down and like I just get massacred.
shadows, the dark areas of the game are pitch black.
Clipton ship, well actually, uh, Vulp sent me a funny clip, see if I can find it.
Okay look at this, this is what I'm worried about in the game.
What the fuck was it so dark?
She actually doesn't see me because I'm so black.
They don't see me because I'm black.
It's so dark for some people you actually have your camo.
Yo help!
There's a fucking murloc!
They don't see me, I'm camouflaged.
So this is why a lot of things shouldn't be...
I just don't want there to be a situation where like you're playing a horror game and
you just max out the brightness, right?
So there should be...
I'll be okay with the whole game being really dark in some areas, as long as it's dark for
everyone and there's no way around it, but that's part of the game, sure.
But I just don't want to like, all right, let me turn this down, let me turn this off,
Let me get more FPS this way.
Let me turn down all this- Ew, crows, don't.
I know you gotta be able to adjust graphics and everything, but fuck, I just don't wanna
be in that situation where people are just trying to optimize and get shittier, uglier
graphics so they get more vision.
That's how PC games work though, I guess, yeah.
There's no way around it.
A.L.P.S. friend.
Well met.
Okay.
Uh...
Okay.
Do I need to go down the front of Thunderbluff, or do they add elevators to the back?
I want- Oh!
Wait.
There are elevators in the back now!
There's multiple entrances to TB
Always have been those are always there. I don't believe you really I can make this
No way no way you're trolling I'm not trolling I really didn't know I
I mean, why would I ever, ever, ever, ever take those elevators?
For what reason is that ever gonna come up?
To level?
But you don't really quest up here.
Like, by the time you start doing these, like, look at this quest.
claws I didn't even finish I almost finished but I didn't because why why
would I care I don't need it where is this where are these eplins by the way
hello
dark moon fair that's at the front side of thunder bluff other way the ledge is
it this
Do I have to take this trail over here?
Interesting, okay
Okay, well, it's all that's to be done
so
There is a relic that is Horde only in the Sky Elf Zone
It is a white relic. It's not green
I don't think I've ever seen a white relic in the game, but it reduces the mana cost of all shape-shifting by 40
Kind of fucking crazy.
Port only.
Yep.
You can get it as a tarn.
It's an insane thing to make port only.
I agree.
Um, yeah.
Maybe there should be a comparable relic on Alliance.
I don't know what it would be though, but reduced shapeshifting cost of that.
Travelform is sort of how you shapeshift in PvP especially, and Travelform is a pretty
low base cost.
That's why you use it, because Bareform is so expensive.
90 mana, I have 365.
That usually scales with your level, so that's why you don't use Bareform to get out of Nova
as you use Travelform and stuff.
That's why Feral PVP is just not good, because going in cat and bear is so expensive.
So reducing the amount of mana cost flat by 40 for travel form, it's almost going to
be a free shape shift.
Like actually, free.
Kind of insane.
The boat's there, Rip. Nooo! Wait for me!
How do I block Guild invites? Jesus.
Surely they can do something about like spam auto inviting everyone with guilds, like when
you log in. Surely they can like ban that or do something because that is so annoying.
There's an add-on. I feel like it shouldn't even have to be an add-on
because just new players join and just join some random fucking guild with some
bots that are spam. Why? Why? Why do they do that?
There's a setting. I just wish you could do a macro like that and I worry for like new
players as soon as if anyone's result is just getting add-on you're just kind of fucking
over new players aren't you. Wait my planes running was going up while I'm on the boat
Y'all see that?
Look, I'm not moving.
Oh, no, it went down.
But it's not going down very quickly.
Oh, look, it just went up.
It just went down again.
We- oh, now it's 20?
Oh, now I dc'd.
Uh-oh, what's going on?
going too fast mr. Poppin I gotta slow down I'm at 18 sacks now no all the
Tarans are just AD spamming. God this is miserable.
I haven't seen this place by the way. This is all gonna be new to me.
Have I seen this?
Reduce the hit chance of destroying effects against you by 7%.
Eh. Fun, but whatever. It's a head slot.
Inspect it? It's probably a trans log item, if anything, right?
Yeah. Weird.
Okay, so where is this quest?
Any druids know where top left side?
All the way up there?
All right, let's have a link to Wowhead forever.
This bitch, okay.
It is a bit of a hike.
Okay.
said you have to quest until the second town do you
I don't know if I should get a north or I guess I go west
Yeah.
Look at these like, a lot of breezes of wind down here.
Wait, are these the things?
What is it when you use your Sky Elf racial and it makes it last for like 30 seconds?
Or 30 minutes?
What do those look like?
The lay lines.
No, it gives you 40% run speed for 5 minutes.
Interesting.
ran through that huh.
And now I gotta go north.
That is true, I had to do a few until the second town.
Yeah, we'll see.
How often do you see lay lines?
And in the world, I don't care about this zone.
So almost never.
So yeah, Sky Elf is dog shit.
You have to purposely go to them.
So you're not just going to be like, nice, a ley line.
Okay, so awful race
Their glider racial is OP and BGs. I don't fucking care about BGs. I
Would like their rate if their racial was this instead like I
I would like to see some like wind blast or something you know like a big gust of wind thrusts them forward
Pretty far if you're on flat ground
It's enough distance to get away from someone and like cast a
1.5 or 2 second cast assuming they don't sprint or they don't charge to you pretty decent distance
that's maybe comparable to human trinket out of stun or undead breaking of fear
because it has to be that strong that's how strong it has to be so goblin yes
yeah basically a goblin racial yes I mean then a sky elf warrior would be
like yeah I'll take a second like gap closer I would take that it doesn't
have to be it I think it should mobility creep is gay though it's gay
people would mauled over the OP race if you could do the goblin racial that I
just mentioned but it's like a wind blast sort of that thrust them forward if
you could do that and I had the choice to play human orc undead or sky elf
Sky Elf would still be at the bottom of that list.
Whoopset, if you find yourself dying, it happens. I mean, look at Soda, right? This guy's, this guy begged, I don't know, 50,000 viewers every single day for like a week straight for all the gold in the game, all the items in the game, all the buffs in the game, all the professors in the game.
Let's lose the pay-oh in a span of five seconds
So he did this I mean full full begging mode days straight. I mean 15 hour days practicing period
What is he talking about?
So, I mean that that does happen
That's true. Okay, what else? Tim the tap man day one of wow forever is going well
You stun, turn off invites, can I be honest with you bro?
I don't want to do that because I don't want to lose my buff.
Oh dude, I can't play Torn.
No, I know I can turn on auto to climb, but I don't want to lose my fucking planes running.
Okay, if I put my curators around auto, can I turn off invites here?
Hang on, party, invite.
Locked yield invites, check.
What about party?
Where's party, invite?
Oh, that would be, that should be it here.
Is it general?
It's under group, it's group, implied.
I need to find this bro. Interface.
Notch more.
On that.
Block.
You can block invites.
Block? There is a fucking party invited.
Dude, I'm trying to search it!
See it? The fat man invited me to a group.
Great, girl. Thank you, man.
They just need to make it to where when you put someone on Ignore, it ignores their entire account.
Dude, to be on my tweaking?
How is there no way to block group invites?
Cause if you turn that on people would forget they have it on the gate.
That is how it works?
No, that's not how it works.
A guy was spam creating new characters just yesterday and just spam inviting me on a new
character over and over again.
It only blocks their individual character.
But you know, you shouldn't be able to block invites.
having the ability to have that setting on would be really annoying but you
should be able to ignore someone and it ignores your entire account okay so wait
hold on where is this quest this village over here okay and people are saying I
have to do maybe a prerequisite
Talk to the village leader first.
Someone's gonna have to guide me through this.
You think Blizzard will mess with the racials? I fucking hope they do, man.
I really hope they do.
I think racial balancing is more important than class balancing initially.
Initially.
Cause that's like, people have to select their race and all that jazz.
Nerf gnome. I mean, I don't know if they necessarily, they don't need to nerf, they just need to buff the other races to be at that level.
It's really just the CC breaking, Racial's. Is this her by the way? Someone Amberwind? Yeah, this is it.
Listen to who the fuck, can I tell me?
Wow, there it is.
That idol's crazy, I know.
The road quest is also broken for Sky Elves. I can't even progress to get Poisons. Yikes.
That's how it goes.
The other thing I was thinking about, because I think it's honestly a matter of time.
Not if, but when. They add something like Forsaken Elves, right?
When they add Forsaken Elves, should they have their own unique racial or just another Will of Forsaken?
I actually just think give them Will of Forsaken.
Is that stupid?
I don't even think it should be unique.
Forsaken Elves? Yeah!
Or actually maybe they could have like Will of Forsaken.
Maybe they could do a Banshee. Some type of Banshee bullshit because of Sylvanas, right?
I'll be- let me just do Mask Off for a second. I just really want Vola Forsaken as a druid,
and if they do Forsaken Elves, you might get some Undead Druids. Imagine that.
Alright, let's complete. Let's go.
Find a job.
Druid forms for- for Saken.
Yeah, that'd be kind of tough, because then...
You'd have to get, I don't like, little skeleton cats.
I think it'd be fucking cool. We'd have another
undead paladin situation, but the druid variation.
They also got to make Sky Elves forms not look how they look, it's too much.
I wouldn't even complain if the Sky Elves had the same exact true forms as Night Elves,
like whatever
I can actually be okay with that
That's on the zone visually it looks like Smurf Elf set up
It felt a little retaly the mute. I don't know
I don't know if it's just me and my nostalgia and I'm hearing the same 30 songs for all of classic
So hearing a new song kind of puts me off
But the song felt retailly whatever
It was nice. I guess it's whatever
The zone looked a little retailly the elves of retailly
My biggest I don't fucking care about the zone. I don't give a shit. I'm out of the zone
I'm not gonna see it again for God knows how long
But the elf for our sky elf forms are to me the most problematic
these blue glowy
B, four. It's too pretty, too much. Ridiculous.
What level am I? 11.
Crossroads.
There are any triangles on that model? Maybe, yeah, I guess.
Have you seen the Skyborne rogue stance when they're fighting?
It looks like its left shoulder is out of socket.
No, I haven't looked at that.
I want it to look like shit.
I think that it's not just that they look too pretty.
It's that you put them side by side with like the classic Torren
and it's really weird looking.
Like I noticed it when I was in Moon Glade
and I was having all the druids show up.
It's really off-putting.
It's not just to maintain the classic look.
It's you just can't.
It's just it's really off-putting.
Like my bear form the jaw doesn't like move it's this weird the teeth are like
off it's so ugly then you got this pretty ass race next to it's weird you
should be off putting up good one
where do I need to go for RFC by the way I know it's an org but where's the
prerequisite for the mace. I'm sure there's one, right? Before I go run it, you just go
to Thrall. Is there no quest? Or you just grab the quest from Thrall, and then you gotta
go to the cave outside. It's Hidden Enemy's quest line. Okay. So it's still the Hidden
enemy's quest line. I wasn't sure if there was a new quest altogether. There's probably
You don't work on that.
See the guy who made the SD version of that bear form?
No, I haven't.
There's a Reddit post.
Eight days ago, Sky Elf Bear Models.
Yeah, actually, this works.
Doesn't that look way better?
Legit fixed right there and then.
And I'd be really hyped about this model.
I wonder if they have the... I wonder what the data looks like on how many players are
on SD models and how many people are on HD.
Wait, do I have to run to work? I think I do.
Yeah, I do. Fuck.
Let's do it. I'm on HD. HD is so bad.
Again, I don't care what people say. I need to see the actual data.
Um, what people say is usually not in line with the actual truth
Like people saying SD is better everyone's on SD I agree with them, but this could be a minority situation where
Only the chronically online are using the SD models, but majority of the population just doesn't actually
Give a fuck and they just on HD. I don't know. I want to see the actual data
HD is fucking disgusting. Yeah
Again a lot of these players they're not on reddit. They're not on twitch. They're not on Twitter
They're logging in and they're just clicking HD
Because that's what they do I
Assume most people are HD they might I don't know right. I just want to see the data. I'm actually really curious
I do hope that they, you know, keep doing the SD model. It wouldn't surprise me, though, if HD slowly overtakes
simply because lots of people tend to just...
Again, they see HD, they click HD, end of thought process, right?
Most people also want summoning stones. No, I don't think most people want summoning stones.
Well, I could see the argument for them though.
Uh, like, people who actually played in classic know that there basically are summoning stones.
It's called Warlock bots.
And that is what will happen.
So summoning stone or Chinese Warlock bots.
You have to pick one or the other.
That's what it will be.
Warlock bot costs money.
Yeah, so it's an advantage for people with the gold.
Stones would be better.
They would be.
Initially, they shouldn't be in the game because the game won't be plagued by bots.
And hopefully, bots just get removed.
I don't know.
Let's see.
What does happen is, you just have to find the Warlock bots, or you say, looking for summon Wailing Caverns, you get auto-invited, you get summoned, and then you pay 2 gold.
Looking for summon Org, and then you get invited automatically, and you get summoned to Org, and you pay them 2 gold.
And then if you don't pay, they block you, right?
Uh, the fucking Chinese gold summoning bot mafia blocks your character across everything.
And then you get in a group to try and go to Scarlet Monastery, everyone in the group gets summoned,
and now they're wondering, why do we have to wait on this guy?
Why is this guy not getting summoned?
Ew, kick him.
And then you get replaced.
He said he can't block cross characters.
That's why I called it the Chinese Summoning Mafia.
They like Kordomate. They're all connected.
Sucks. But that's what happens.
We as a community can easily just slay them. Yeah. That would have been awesome to have
done in Classic Era, in TBC Era, and then we redid Classic Era and it was the same thing,
and then we read a TBC and it was the same thing.
It would have been cool to have done it
on all the other different variations
where we could have done that and didn't.
Weird.
This time they will, ugh, yeah.
Why do they have to be Chinese?
They don't have to be, but they usually are.
On my server 2019 there was a lockpot with Patreon, and the service was free for Patreon
subs.
Crafty.
Pretty fucking crafty.
I mean, that's literally a banable offense, though, I will say.
Uh, so I'm surprised that person didn't get banned.
Are you surprised, though? No, I'm not.
Ugh!
It's just one of those things where it's like people asking for summoning stones.
When they're immediately written off as retail players, it's kinda just not good for the
discussion because there is an argument for summoning stones for, we just went over why.
Summoning stone accessors legacy perk?
Also to hell with warlocks, just think about all the times their pet pulls stuff.
Make them sad.
What would you think about a summoning stone talent in the Legacy Tree?
Like may be able to interact with the LFG Rock to summon your party?
Not sure exactly how it would work.
Uh, I mean that would just be really damning to new players though, wouldn't it?
Same with those five talent points in the game, where you get an extra five earlier.
Um, it would just be really damning to new players.
And I want the game to be like your new player and you don't feel bad for being new.
This guy's name is Gay Skitzo.
Interesting.
He's just sitting out here buffing people.
Nice.
nice
i don't target a target on
oops
well what is this
okay so is that stormwind?
How'd they link the same picture twice?
I don't know.
It would be nice if paved roads gave a 10-20% movement speed increase.
No.
My god, my frame's in here!
Oh my fucking god!
Maybe 5%? I mean sure, 5% could be fine I guess.
Oh my god!
Holy shit.
Org has been booty, yeah, clearly.
I have a 50-90.
This is just the game is not very optimized, it's a beta issue for sure.
confirmed more complex instrument I guess Jesus give me the fuck out of here
I am just holy I'm going straight to throw do you buff trolling touring
racials yes I would trolling taranese buffs big time they're horrible I would
buff I would give night elf some PvP love somehow so some form of utility that
doesn't affect PvE. I don't... they'd have to redo Shadowmelt somehow. I don't know how.
I would completely get rid of the Herbalism thing. That's just shit. Honestly, Plainsrunning
I think is shit too. People are gonna see it as really OP right now, but it's only overpowered
1 through 20, and then it's worthless. Shamans get Ghostwolf at 20, Hunters get Cheetah at
20, Druids get Catform at 20, Travelform at 30 if they don't take Catform, and Warriors
benefit off of it, I guess, but it's pretty much just sacking an entire passive. It's worthless.
It just seems OP right now because people are leveling 1 through 20, right?
War Stomp is okay, but it got indirectly nerfed with everyone else's ratios.
And the 5% health and 1% hit is pretty good, but it's like it's just comparable to the others,
is it. Troll, 10% attack speed is good, not as good as the crit, but same with the, you
know, 10% damage from the work. And the Troll healing racial is worthless in PVP, which
is, all of these actives kind of suck in PVE too. But you can level faster with, I just
don't care about the leveling aspect of ratios. Honestly, like that Troll racial is comparable
to cannibalize, I guess. Two shades of shit, whatever.
No, I'm inhuman or disgusting. Yeah, no, Troll.
Troll, Tarran.
I think Dwarf is actually good.
It's just people don't like the race altogether.
What else is there? Sky Elf.
Also wait, well Dwarf's on use is like a damage reduction.
That feels kind of bad for damage dealers.
Really good for tanking though.
What's that?
Re-roof the plus damage to beast and elementals.
Yeah, something like that I guess.
I don't know, there's trash.
Oh yeah, Dwarf hunters.
can't use maces same with human priests they can't use swords
I reported that mage gold seller for 30 minutes tray yesterday did you see my
frames like is it like this for everyone else
This is crazy.
I'm going to restart my game altogether, I don't know, this is nuts.
So Orc is good, Orc is S tier, yeah.
My FPS is better, still pretty god-awful though, Jesus.
Maybe the secondary lighting is what I gotta turn off.
Oh that fixed it.
Wow, it was secondary lighting.
What about summoning stones but they cost gold slash silver to use?
Silver for low levels.
But I guess box will just undercut then.
Yeah, it's really tough.
It just sucks.
Dare I say?
Maybe make Warlock summoning require level 60 or something?
I don't know.
and give it like a limited amount of charges.
Basically, you have to just make it to where it's not worth botting the shit, right?
I don't know how you do it.
Why not just allow summoning stones?
I think it can be...
The group has to run to the dungeon, and if you have a warlock, it's like,
dude, we got a warlock there, sick, right?
Right, and I think that can be fun, and I think it's good RP. I think it's good for the game
But you have to make it where they don't bought it. I just there's got to be something needs a fat cool down
Yeah, maybe you can summon one person like you just summon that one guy who's lally gagging behind
Plus it would make people argue about who gets to summon. I
Mean I'd actually be okay with that
Slashroll for the summon? Genuinely. Yeah, actually I'd be okay with that.
Make a summoner require three people instead of two.
I mean, they would just have another pot there. That doesn't fix anything.
Wow, did I just get a green mace?
Holy fuck!
Six attack power, that's an insane weapon I could have got, or I got...
First guy I killed too, I don't need it.
Damn.
Nice.
Oh my god, the double crit.
See all the new hunter pet abilities? I'm gonna level a hunter after this.
That's like my next class. Probably my next class. So kind of debating, but also not entirely.
This is it. You can only, you can summon plus or minus five levels from your own level.
They have to be within your level range?
I still would prefer the cooldown.
Oh, I got it.
Fuck.
Nice.
Fuck ya.
Level range won't stop shit.
Yeah, what?
Just give it a cooldown.
How about having another consumable for warlocks that they get only by killing, getting killing
blows and can only have, say, 10 of that item?
So another soul shard?
So then, I have the fix for summoning stones.
Make it so only a druid can do it now.
True!
This is fix.
I think the bot would want to level this god door for class.
lol
ugh, it actually is so AIDS level. Dude, I cannot-
I don't know if it's confirmed that there's going to be a patch, but everyone is saying there's a big patch tomorrow.
How do y'all know that?
Did they announce that or something?
It was a blue post, Adren tweeted it? Okay.
So, big patch, I'm actually so fucking excited for that.
I'm also a little nervous and worried.
I just, like, what are they actually going to be doing?
I don't know.
Maybe just bug fixes?
I hope it's not, like, exactly.
It might just be, we fixed them, oh, the memory leak is AIDS, but, I mean, it's the
first patch of the beta. It should be the most changes. Like the most daunting
instant, oh fuck this is messed up. We should fix this situation. And my other
worry is it's gonna be just not a whole lot and they're not gonna really do a
lot of changes until the game actually releases but I feel like they need to do
more weekly patches to really actually test things out of actual gameplay changes, not
just bug fixes.
Like example, let's say they, at the very last day of the beta, they're like, all right,
we fixed the spell power of Wrath and we fixed the spell power of Shaman, but then they over
did it and now it's too strong. Right? That's why multiple batches would be ideal.
Seeing if things are right. Wanding and auto shots getting fixed? Thank god. Get
fucked. That was... you cannot tell me that wasn't ridiculous.
Like wands have more spell or more DPS than any other weapon in the game
Because wands don't scale with anything.
You don't get attack power.
You don't get any of that.
And then they make wands fucking scale with spell power?
Wow, also having the highest DPS?
It's crazy!
Bypasses armor too?
That's not what's changing? Well, I hope it fucking does.
And then oh, oh right in the fucking spam shooting or whatever
Pretty much zero downtime you can actually just wand while moving
Same with hundreds people saying it felt good. I'm sure it did feel really good
What do I do now?
Motherfucker, what do you want me to do?
Is that it?
Hitting enemies.
Was that in...
Where do I do this?
Left of shadows.
Is it?
Okay.
It's not showing for whatever reason.
Niru Fireblade speak to him, Gage.
He's a warlock with his...
Yeah, okay, I know who that is.
Aren't you a wow veteran? You think I memorized? No, I don't know this shit. I'll take your
RFC. Yeah, that might be the case. I'm just gonna heal it. No healing gear, but that shit
does not matter. What gear drops in RFC? I've never looked at it. Jesus Christ, hello.
I am struggling.
This game is really just not doing it.
You should get an item called Dungeon Journals in the Valley, it's really good for leveling.
Probably right.
Alright, RFC.
There's a cape.
One-handed sword.
Some blue gloves.
Is that it?
Robe of Evocation.
No spell damage on it.
Speed.
Factory.
Okay, slaying the beast. It's a big RFC quest. Back to Thrall.
Uh, if anyone wants to do RFC, send me a whisper. I don't really care who.
What is this secondary lighting option and why is it so dark-lit?
It's AIDS. Hunter DPS. Rogue.
Oh
Rogue rogue hunter DPS will tank bang we're done
You're level 20 you would know I don't need a fucking max level in here to carry the whole thing
This guy's level 22. What the fuck is this? I guess no one's leveling anyone leveling want to do this I
I have shit geared dude. I don't care your level 20. I mean level 12 rogue sure
level 11 okay 14 lawyer we'll take a 14 lawyer god damn all right done bull group
I got all the quests to share if need.
I probably will.
Yeah, actually.
You're not in the group, are you?
Have you come to serve the Horde?
Okay, and now what?
Hidden enemies.
Okay, now you go into the dungeon.
Cool.
isn't it new feral's now can use this will cheat in cat yeah it's pretty good
let me in I'll share the quests all right
appreciate it
Share the quest gamer.
I know I got some from Thunderbluff.
I have four here.
Oh.
Ooh.
Nice.
OK.
I think that's it.
Yeah, I'm going to go into the dungeon.
Trog Scepter.
main hand healing. Does that drop an RFC? That is really good. I hope I get it.
First boss. All right. I mean, I'm just gonna try and get all the spell damage gear.
Trying to actually just play thorns build early on and just see how it plays out.
thorns is nerf tomorrow
I don't, it shouldn't snapshot
I do hope thorns stays as is
just, it doesn't snapshot
it becomes dynamic with what gear you're wearing
so if you want to have really big thorns
yeah, you gotta wear a bunch of castor gear
so you're not gonna be in all this tank gear
you know, reflecting insane amounts of thorns damage while taking no damage.
Uh, what thorns, what do you mean snapshot?
Right now, if I were to put on pure spell power here,
as much as possible, I could thorns, and the thorns will
do as much damage as my spell powers has, and then I swapped to the tank gear,
the thorn stays as is, insanely high.
That should not be the case.
How will it be dynamic if you buff someone else?
You're right.
If I were to like, how do they code that?
That's how it worked in Classic?
No, Thorns didn't scale with Spell Power at all.
So if I thorn someone in Durotar, right, and they're leveling, like, wow, these thorns
are super strong, and I fucking port back to Moonblade, like, I'm gone.
And while I'm in Moonblade, I just swap my gear.
Their thorns will just decrease from across the planet.
It's 10 minutes, so be it.
But now we're snapshotting thorns.
I don't care.
Fuck it.
But it happened, I just worry that they're going to balance the game around expecting
you to have a spell power set no matter what spec you play.
What if you log out?
I don't know.
Waiting on this hunter.
We have a rogue with Red Sick.
Interesting.
Make it an aura like Warcraft 3.
Yeah, that could work.
Making thorns an aura.
What is this?
Spell damage 5.
Armor plus...
a gamer. I'm healing so you guys are the damage here. Godspeed to all of you.
Warriors, I mean just tank, honestly just tank what you can. Who cares? We got a
Crocodile
All right, I'm taps
Anyone have the last quest the bad one I'll share what I have
Oh fuck oh
Sorry, I wasn't healing I got you now
I am tapped by the way holy fuck we're gonna have to do this pretty slow I don't
have water either. Oh my man. You also had reduced armor so you're taking dick damage.
Like your healer is trash. I don't... I'm using rank 2 healing touch and that's the
only button I have. Alright.
Rejuve. I'm not going to hit Rejuve. The healing it does for the mana cost is not
there. The only button I should be pressing is healing touch.
Honestly, maybe I use rank 1 healing touch.
Um, no, it's for per mana. It's about the same healing
It's not like wrath
My bay lays sick
Definitely warlock or hunter for best class for everything warlock no I'd go hunter warlocks
Warlocks are a bit up in the air right now.
It's really hard to see how Warlocks are gonna be in PvP with the nerfs to fear range.
And hunters just seem to be pretty fucking good at everything.
Right now has is.
PvP Omega Low? Well, he said for everything and I think they're both good in PvE, so it
comes down to PvP comparison. Why do I feel like the work PvP is a trigger
board for some of you guys. Like you actually hear that and like you take damage IRL or
something. It's crazy.
Played by us since 2005, I want my wife to play with me but she has bad arthritis in
her hands.
What would you recommend the easiest class to play with less buttons?
Obviously just chill leveling, I thought Hunter, send in pet and auto?
Thanks soda less than three.
Uh, thinking.
Honestly Hunter might be the right call.
Mage?
No, I don't think Mage.
If they're talking about leveling, Mage may be only one button, but there's a lot of movement
involved.
running back and kiting back and then Frostbolt.
Priest's Wanding is pretty good.
There's a lot more buttons.
It's probably a Priest or Hunter Paladin.
Paladin is the wheelchair class, but it's like, again, your melee.
the hunter pet it there's just less movement
yeah I think hunter or priest if she wants to play a healer and just wand but
it's more buttons and more to pay attention to
Good luck gamer.
Next to the five gifted subs, CrustoKingTYVM.
Just use a controller.
Yeah, you can use a controller.
I don't know how good it is, but Blizzard made it so that controllers were very playable
in the game. It'll be worse. It's fine for questing. You'll be alright playing a controller
walk-musting for sure hmm honestly you're probably in most aspects of the game
you're probably fine playing a controller everything except PvP the
game is not hard there's a very very easy game
Yeah, you can do it in Final Fantasy 14 with way more buttons every other game you do on
controller.
Yeah, like Final Fantasy I think the way they do it is you like hit right trigger for R2
And it like opens up a whole different menu of buttons.
I don't know, I've never played it.
Or is it R1?
I don't know.
Why did you hate Alliance?
Olympus?
And...
The Rationals are shit for Druid.
If you're up front taking the brunt of it so no need to kite, I think Hunter is the best choice.
Thanks Soda and thanks Chatsmoyle.
If you're- oh, oh, oh, oh, gamer, hold on.
If you're only playing with her, alright, and you're a warrior, I think y'all would have more fun with her on Priest.
Maybe I'm going too far here.
Hunter warrior I mean that can work too I mean else you know what more importantly you
should ask what she wants to play what does she think is the coolest or she want to have
the pet and fuck it don't hunt her
but I don't know like warrior healer combo is is just really fun I don't know
her perspective but I really like being like the reason this warrior is going in
there and clobbering the fuck out of everything. I like healing that. That can be pretty fun.
She won't understand that. Either way, gamer, you'll have fun on either. One or the other.
Shaman would probably be a little bit more.
Wanding is nice as a priest, just hit the wand.
Shaman, you put Wind Fury totem down and...
I guess he just starts stabbing things, but there's a lot of movement.
Anyway...
The lava looks like pizza.
The forbidden pizza.
Uh, some drama with some military thing that some friend of- I don't- dude.
It's- it's unemployment drama.
I know more than I would like to about it.
Alright, I'm moving, I have no water.
Ooh, TY.
Ogleflint, level 16.
we can kill this. Rare you on PvP or PvE realm and you have two faction on PvP? I was on
a PvP realm and I'm on two different wow accounts right now. That's why I'm on a horde.
Okay, this guy's taking some serious damage.
I am tapped by the way, that's it.
Yeah, I don't know how I feel about the faction lock on a single PvP server.
I'm not a fan of it, personally.
Five into like wrists.
How much spell power does your druid have?
My night elf druid, I think I'm like 95 unbuffed,
Spell power, something like that.
Maybe 100.
Damn, Blue Crossbow.
Press.
So they can make money off people or off the people
that will buy another sub.
Also 10 minute party locks on summoning stones
with five level difference.
Uhhhhhhhhh
You know I understand the big company bad and big company want money
Argument because it is true
But I just disagree with the they don't ban bots because they want the bots to keep paying a subscription
I think that is a drop in the pond. It is so fucking minuscule
To what they gain. I think there's other problems and then
Do they not have it because they want that extra sub from some players the optimizing sweats again
Tiny little drop in the big pond
It's so minimal, I think it's just a big company bad
Like mindset that it's true, but I think there's very little critical thinking behind that
I don't know about that.
bad take after bad take I could just go with the normal take that farms based in the chat
I just hate everything.
I just think it's wrong.
I got a piece so bad.
Oh no.
What do I need to kill?
Why?
Fuck.
I want to see the actual loot of RFC, but clearly this one isn't updated.
What do I need to download?
Dungeon Journal?
Alright.
Dungeon Journal it is.
You download this.
Big update, the fuck.
Okay.
Installing.
Add-ons.
on's turning off Atlas loot reloading
RFC ooh there we go okay
Ooh, look at that dagger. Damage and healing plus 18.
Holy shit.
Okay, so I want that.
What do I want? The 33 healing and 11 spell damage.
I think like the 18. Harmful spell cast, Seer the Target.
Kind of cool.
Staff of Org is 26 spell power.
Oh, so I don't actually care about this, then.
I'm just gonna get the staff of Org, okay.
Feral changes.
How to make Durotalk round not glowy.
What command?
Check and y'all take the command to make Dorotar not as glowy
This one shows all the loot that we found okay, hang on I
Wonder if they've gone into like RFK and shit yet
thorn spike
Yeah, maybe I should go actually do really difficult dungeons and do some dungeon farming see the new drops, right?
Have to get an actual optimized in min max group though. I
Could do it on my alliance druid
And just heal and then get like three hunters and
Who could hold threat four hunters and just heal them
I want to go peel
All right, I got to re-buff thorns.
Let's see.
Death Speakers maze healing.
That cannot be right.
The fuck?
Shit is horrible.
Corpse Maker 29 hasn't really been changed.
Yeah, it's not updated.
Tuskenhelm, that's blue.
That's still green, probably changed. These pants are probably changed.
Yeah, it's not updated at all.
this is yeah that is okay no more again okay I don't think anyone's done RFK it
can you enter RFK at level 20
why not aren't there there's level requirements you have to be a certain
level to get in. There are but you can't. Okay, BFD is doable at 20. I'm fully aware
that. I know all the loot table is probably in here too. Tortoise armor, yep
there's the ring, there's the bow. Chance on hit, wounds the target with 42
damage, and it stuns Naga for two seconds.
Damage and healing gloves, brother's leather hood.
We don't know what this quest is going to give.
interesting. This is why I love healing. I'm doing my job out here. Ah, let's see,
Lockade loot.
City of Dalaran.
Oh, we can't even go in there yet, can we?
Ooh, two-handed.
Okay, I'll take that.
I like how...
So, this is the Spike Club of the Bear, or Elder, right?
Notice that these two weapons are the exact same, spiked club, but as soon as it starts
taking in spell damage, it saps away DPS.
This does 6.6, this does 9, even though they're the same weapon.
So it means the spell power essentially stabs it away.
I thought maybe each, you know, weapon or piece of gear would be tuned, but there's
some mechanic that's autobesit.
I'm going oom here.
I'm tapped.
Kill this guy.
Oh my god.
all melee. Interesting leather gloves there. I'm gonna take it.
I
Dribbers win to the city of Dalaran and check all the new rank 14 gear. Yeah, I saw that
What else we got to do we got to kill these two fucks spells of shadow
What happened to your hunter alt plans?
I gotta level a druid
On horde this relic is too strong
And I don't know if it's gonna be competitive or like a given to the alliance, so I'm just gonna level a tarn
Kind of just has to be done
Is that why that an Olympus is cringe and the rations of tauren are far better
than night elf in the alternate even though worst op is still shit it's just
it's better than night elf
I
Has been making an undead paladin
Okay
Well, that's true or not
I don't really care what Azman does necessarily, but like, Olympus players or the people that
tend to be an Olympus are actually fucking brain dead and very obnoxious.
I just have to get what's that one add on this block?
It's partially because I think Olympus just mass invites people as soon
as you log in, you're going to get an invite to some Olympus Guild instantly.
And that's part of a lot of them are probably like newer players and things like that.
It's just annoying that they're so grouped together.
They're very spammy and they're also very fanatical players.
And then of course trade chat and everything.
It really is invite to Asmin layer.
That is all over.
Maybe they're maiming and like overdoing it, maybe it'll die down but it's just annoying
right now.
But that's not my reason for going horde.
My main reason for going horde is the relic and warstomp.
It's too strong.
of org was 18 skull power not 26 okay it's still really good extremely good
probably won't be as bad as in 2019 because that has been tanked a lot of
the popular tanked and by I think he's more popular is he not but then again
he's also like more of a political guy I don't know how big he is and wow
anymore? Probably something big. Whatever. I am looking for any reason to go for it.
And it seems like everyone's playing Alliance, which is, I mean, I'm just a fucking hipster.
I don't want to be the race or faction everyone is. I'm going horde
Everyone is horde doesn't feel that way I'd have to I guess maybe because of the undead paladin bullshit
But I do think right now if you release level 60 and people had to make their fully committed character
I think alliance would surpass horde
Maybe I'm wrong
It's pretty balanced on the PvP server good. Okay, all right
Then maybe I'm just referring to streamers all the streamers win or her when alliance
And like as fan win horde, but he's gonna go back to Alliance. He just wanted to do undead Pali cuz it's new right
They should make the rule set something you can change on login page.
That's essentially like, you want War Mode?
No, I don't think, if you choose PvP, you're on a PvP server and there's no...
Alright, I think I'm gonna log into the PvE realm and just go farm some elementals and
piece. No, you're on a PvP realm. That's how it is. It's like that. Can't change it.
I understand why a lot of people are going on PvE realm, so it makes a lot of sense.
People can have their nostalgia glasses on and be like,
oh, PVP is so cool, but like there's, again,
a reality of what it looks like in 2026.
It's not a Vertenny PVP video.
It's a level 60 road killing people in a red ridge
and teabagging.
It's a group of 20 players ganging up on one person
and then saying, go back to retail
as if they fucking outplayed them.
That's really kind of what world PvP is now.
And maybe you'll have your moments here and there, but it's hard to find those.
So I understand why people go PvE server.
Especially streamers.
It's streaming the game miserable.
Ooh, wait, those are good for me.
Okay.
Need that?
Maybe I get all healing gear on this druid
other than spell damage.
There's as much plus healing as I can get
because there would still be a lot of spell damage too,
right?
Might do that.
I think my thorns wouldn't hit as hard fuck. Maybe I just get all the gear
Resto set feral set and balance set fucking everything
Do you get the relic? I did my bear form right now cost 60 mana as opposed to 100
When are you gonna start multi streaming on YouTube?
Is our you pika guzu ompie all pretty much do it?
I don't know when I fucking get the time to set it up, man. I'm just a lazy fuck
All right, I'm a lazy fuck
Is it 40% or 40 mana it's 40 40 mana less
Now if you think about that for travel form travel form is a really cheap shape shift just how it works
Going from when you get travel form. I wonder how much it costs actually a level 30
Maybe someone can look that out for me assuming it's not gonna be different
Reducing that by 40 is insane
Have you always only been issued in PvP have you ever done progression and rating I've done progression and rating
Classic prog in raiding is a joke though, but I've done it. It's just very easy and has always been solved
But I always have just done PvP, I think PvP is sort of the harder of
At least in classic while the harder of everything
But you have to be autistic to give a shit and get into it
But every piece of gear I would get from raiding, I really didn't care about my DPS increase.
I didn't give a fuck.
I don't care about my healing output increasing.
The boss is gonna die.
I don't care how he dies, he's gonna die.
But I do care about, yo, this weapon is gonna be sick in PvP, this is gonna be really fun.
And that's where my dopamine came in, is using the gear I get in pvp.
I need to train daggers, I think.
They should just add war mode to get it done with?
No, I disagree.
form on WoW head since 20% of base mana. Is that retail or is that classic? I don't know.
I have a feeling I could probably go to an old VOD of level 30 dueling beta tournament
and see how much mana travel form actually cost.
At level 30.
Base mana is nothing, but wouldn't that mean if you were a feral druid and you had zero
in gear that you would only be able to travel form five times before being
completely tapped. That can't be right because you're able to do like maybe five
bear shifts without any intellect before you're tapped. And travel form is less
than bear. I have pretty significant margins so I don't know if it's true. If
naked but again feral druids have no plus no in gear. They don't wear that. Not at
that level. Maybe I'm wrong.
Oh, base mana doesn't include any int at all. Oh, so even like, really? Okay.
Either way, whatever. Decreasing the mana cost of travel formed by a flat
amount of 40 is... it's... you can't play without this. At low levels, you can't.
And maybe they'll add some equivalent for the Alliance side. They should. I just
don't know how long it's gonna take and I'd rather just play the faction that
already has it.
I'm sure they do. They should. And it doesn't have to be the same, but it should be equally
good. Or fuck it, make it the same, because it's kind of crazy.
What item are we talking about? This. Look at this relic. It's from the new Sky Elf
starting zone. Only Ward can get it.
Seems pretty short-sighted. How long are you even low level? Pretty long
time. I haven't seen any other relics in the game that are gonna surpass this
white relic hopefully they're gonna be in there but this guy almost died
all right GG's gamers is that it yep all ready for turning
can you just swap relics I think you can swap relics in combat yeah they're
similar to weapons so if they increase the amount of this is gonna piss a lot
of people off but if they increase the amount of relics in the game like by a
significant margin. Druids and shamans and paladins with their librums are going to be
relic swapping mid-combat quite a bit depending on what you're doing and depending on what they do.
like in TBC arena druids had a life bloom relic you would swap to it because it increased
the healing of life bloom by so much and then of course you swap back to the damage one
so yeah just macro that shit in sure you can macro it but again you're gonna be swapping
at certain very times.
And it depends, like maybe you'll have a relic that's really strong for bear form, and maybe
your DPS cat, but you have a moment where you gotta swap into bear.
How long are you gonna be in bear form?
Is it worth spending a GCD on putting this bear form relic on?
It might be.
How long are you gonna be in healing form?
Or human form to heal?
Should you put on a healing relic?
you should. Or maybe Blizzard will make it to where you can't swap relics in combat because
they don't want that to be a part of the game. But if they don't, if it stays the same, I
promise that will be a part of the game. I don't mind the relics swapping. I personally
like all the small things. I like snapshotting. I like relics swapping. I like taking this
It's very simple, easy to play fucking game, and allowing you to expand on it, if you're
autistic enough, to just get a small increase.
But you don't have to do these things, but you can.
I prefer when you do have stuff like that.
Blood and thunder!
Mokra!
PvP servers are cringe as fuck.
That's a sick sentence you just typed out, bro.
That was sick.
Feral should not steal spell power gear just for thorns.
Thorns shouldn't snapshot.
that's something I don't support snapshot I agree but I don't I don't know I
do like that thorns scales with spell power but again shouldn't snap shot
Well, I support snapshotting thorns, okay.
Alright.
Well, again, mages and priests and warlocks, feral druids will then be rolling on your
spell power gear so that they can get spell power gear for their thorn set.
In fact, all druids now need it because of their thorns set.
That is what snapshotting thorns means.
Warriors taking healing gear for flask.
However, warriors I think would take a back seat when it came to their flask because it's
not that big of a deal.
Like you need your flash set, you can get some subpar, whatever.
Druids need, I mean, your thorns is a constant buff.
It's a pretty big deal.
In fact, it almost feels like the majority of your damage in a dungeon.
So there's a little bit more, like druids rolling on it makes sense, even when they're
feral.
Like it's just as valuable for them as opposed to a warrior rolling on their healing set.
What do we think about higher rank spells having better spell coefficient instead of higher base values?
I think they need to up the base values a little bit, and they just gotta tweak the scaling,
because yeah, it's a little awkward that rank 1 wrath is better to hit than rank 2 and rank 3.
It's weird and not correct.
Let me see, what do I get out of this?
Oh yeah, it's a staff of Wargangle.
Or do I get the healing weapon?
Ooh, dagger with plus healing.
I really want to see how fucking strong I can get my rejuves to be.
I feel like I could do insane healing if I stack all plus healing gear.
Let me log on to my other drew. Let me see something
Yeah, there's a better healing mace from this gear doesn't matter. I'm just gonna take the staff of work for now
Cuz it's a good short-term upgrade
I already have plus a hundred healing dude, I've got plus a hundred spell damage
so
With that I could I could maybe get like almost plus 200 healing I think
So oh my god double audio by the way
Okay
So spell power I'm at a hundred and three on the buffed
126 healing this is all spell damage. I can get more. I'm missing my ring. That's five
This is damage and healing boots damage and healing pants
Damage and healing belt it's all damage and healing
It's a healing chest though. Healing 13. It's also a damage and healing weapon. Healing
offhand. It's a really good offhand. Um, okay. Actually, let me see what Rejuv does here.
rejuve is ticking for 48. That's not bad.
Regrowth heals for 200 and ticks for 31. So yeah if I have enough plus healing
I think I can probably have my rejuve and regrowth together in total ticking for well over a hundred
It's not bad
Get the hundred spell power ring from fishing has anyone gotten that yet as a single person fished up the
100 spell power ring. I don't think anyone has. This is BIS level 20 Resto gear. Can
we put Horde though? This is an Alliance character. Like I'm not gonna have Staff of Westfall
available. What the fuck is this philanthropist ring? What is this from? The hell?
Quest 20 books what books?
Wouldn't you like to know weather boy?
He was doing the 20 books quest is insane
Interesting okay, so point is you can get this all right
Healing plus 11.
What the fuck?
Where do you get this?
Phil greed pristine leggings.
Tailoring.
So I'd have to level Tailoring and Leatherworking.
Interesting.
Hmm.
Maybe Tailoring's not that expensive.
Horde Quest, the book of Ur, level 16.
8th damn 6th spirit, jeez.
Tailoring chest. Healing plus 13, yup.
Aw, fuck, Alliance gets a special cloak, yeah. Healing plus 9.
Chestnut mantle.
Death's Sockers and Shadows, that's a port only, okay.
Leather Working Boots.
Yup, okay.
And then weapon healing plus 45. Is that your best healing weapon?
Oh shit, look at this healing one-hander
Lights justice horde damn
Are you a rest or drew it now I think I'm gonna play rest oh
I mean I'm gonna do both I gotta farm all the gear. Let's get Saffa board for now
Level 14
Excellent
Now I gotta go to Thunder Bluff. Oh no
Yeah, I think Thunder Bluff, okay, I'll just hearth
Weren't you going to play the new Warcraft 3 campaign today?
Yes, I do want to do that, but I want to do this more.
I've got a lot of things I want to do.
You can straight ROL after hitting level 15.
Can I not just go now and heal it?
I probably could just go now.
The quests need 15 and 16. Okay, maybe not then. Shit.
And there's also wailing caverns to run.
And there's dead mines. I don't know if there's any dead mines quests like I know
the Alliance gets some wailing caverns quests. Do the horde get any dead mine
stuff?
No? Okay.
all the quests are listed here somewhere on there okay
big XP excellent all right well I'm a deep int build
now drew a trainer might as well grab this
Cool, all right, so now my thorns is doing six, it's not that good.
I think I get a new thorns at 14.
Do I not- wait, hold on, I still have more quests to turn in.
Oh, under city. Ugh.
Fuck.
Would you ever consider using a controller for a while? No.
The only time I might do that is if I was in bed, or something, and I wanted to level while in bed, but I'd only do it for couch gaming, or fishing, stuff like that, but if I'm actually playing the game, I guess leveling is actually playing it, keyboard and mouse.
I never grabbed the Orc flight path, I just realized.
I mean, what talent should I grab?
Should I grab Improved Wrath?
I guess I do.
Yeah, fuck it.
For now, requesting and stuff and just rath-ing.
Absolutely not, question mark.
Well...
I think it's fine.
If I'm trying to make a group to do really high-level dungeons and I'm specking Resto,
I'm thinking about what I'd want to actually play.
None of these talents are valuable in Resto, besides Reflection, but you can only get one
point in that.
So I think Balance is still better.
Probably Nature's Splendor, increasing the duration of Rejuve.
And then you just get Improved Wrath to Wrath a couple of times and Moon Glow.
So 5, 3, 2, 1.
Heart of the Wild.
10% Int.
I don't think that surpasses Nature's Splendor here, and it's important to be casting spells
while healing, so you can proc, like you need to do rank 1 Moonfire to try and proc Clear
Casting, then you get a free Healing Touch, that all, just doing that in itself is going
to surpass the mana gained from Heart of the Wild, why not Genesis, it's 5%.
I mean like there's so many fuckers just meleeing you and you want to cast and then you can't.
What do you think if they would add like level 80 zones but the cap is still 60 and the content
is for huge groups of 40 men's?
They would then have to balance hunters.
Hunters have the ability to hit higher levels and they would be the strongest ones there.
So I mean I could see zones that are just completely cooked but I don't know if they
should be level 80.
They should just be ridiculously scaled.
Not level 80.
I have a lot of linen here.
Goodness.
Goodness. Alright. Whatever.
Why aren't you considering the naturalist talent?
It's 5% damage on top of cast time on healing touch.
Uhhhhh...
I mean, yeah, I guess but now you're taking if we're talking PvE you're taking five worthless
talents both of these are just worthless
Maybe going cat form with full energy could be decent
I mean, it's not good in PvP.
Let's see how hard this shit hits for.
Do I even go bareform or do I just stay out of form in melee?
I'm gonna have to train my staffs.
I think I stay out of form and I just moonfire in melee and let thorns do its work.
I think this is actually the best way to do it with this gear
Honestly, let me see how this does moonfire
These guys take a lot of thorns damage. I have very little spell power, but fuck it. Let's see what happens
I mean, I'm getting there, but did it feel good?
feel very strong that's for sure pull a three though and my weapon skill is
horrible
just go bear form I don't have swipe yet yeah I think bear form is probably
still better let me try some rafts as well
What is that glow command? Like is my glow burning my eyeballs right now?
Slash console ffxglow0. Is it ffsglow? ffsglow0.
Bloom.
Okay, looking for Bloom here.
It's still very orange.
Place is hideous.
Okay, water seekers, thorn weavers.
I just have to camp these guys.
All right.
Ooh, big numbers.
New chess piece?
Not as good as mine.
Are you playing a cow and not a blue elf?
That's a great question.
Wow.
I like how you guys get rid of the new graphics instantly.
You're talking about the bloom?
The shit that's burning my eyes?
That's not new.
It's always been AIDS.
Can
Can I handle three or four... fuckers?
It's ballsy.
Don't know if I can actually.
My thorns is falling off.
Oh, fuck.
I don't think I can handle four.
Quick, use the planes running.
Turn the brightness down 40%
I think
Graphics
Brightness
Oh my god
Yeah, that's way better
God damn it.
I tried to dodge that.
I like how I haven't casted Wrath of Singletime.
37 crit, by the way. That was a rank 2 wrath. Do I have rank 3? Nope. That's about how hard
smite hits for priests at level 6, by the way, with zero spell damage. Oh, there's a 27. Okay, wow.
Okay, numbers are happening, kind of.
Nice. Imagine a 5% increase on that bad boy, dude. Imagine.
Probably is while casting I'm not regenning any mana cause I'm casting, right?
So meleeing and moon firing is kind of just better.
I might die, actually.
The War Stomp should be instant.
That would actually be a nerf to War Stomp, almost.
Well, unless it doesn't have a GCD, I don't think it does. Maybe it wouldn't be then.
Not gonna lie, Druid does look awful to play.
Miserable.
No, it's really just depressing.
Nerf? If you made War Stomp instant, assuming there's any form of GCD on it, you would no
longer be able to regrowth during the War Stomp stun. Like, you wouldn't be able to
get all as many casts off. I don't think there's a GCDO, so it might be fine.
I need three more water seekers.
Where are you bitches?
And once I get level 15-ish, I can probably run to Ruins of Lordaeron, and then from
there I can run Wailing Caverns and just start farming Pre-Raid Bists.
I'm also going to have to run BFB.
This time I'm just gonna bring four hunters to BFD because I just do not want to stay in that dungeon.
Hunters can just clock through everything.
Free raid bis? Yeah, free raid bis.
And then I got a power level leather working. I'm gonna have to power level tailoring as well.
Uh...
And then let's go heal some dungeons. Maybe I'll try healing like a Nomur or an RFK
Because I don't think people have seen what drops from those or I can do some world PvP
But I don't think Druid's good for that. So probably level a hunter
Oh fuck me. Hello. Okay, there's no GCD on War Stop
Ooh. So you don't have to be an ugly cat. Alright, I appreciate you, Gamer. Nice. Excellent.
I'm a pirate now.
Yeah.
Does this work with bear form?
Keep phasing me.
I got a limit test.
Oh, it doesn't take away bear form anymore.
Oh.
It was like that on all the private servers before 2019 classic.
And like all the druids were so fucking upset, including me, that we found a PvP video from
like 2005 showing that you could noggin' Fogger Bearform, and you could hide it through that.
if we there was some serious digging that was being done desperately to try and
hide there for me or a human form and all that
now you know the nogginfogger now you can just do Eviet it's cheaper is the
form that unbearable? Well, being a tauren is. Um, what the fuck's going on here? Uh-oh.
here. Uh-oh. We are really just going in here, aren't we?
I got some SP Consumes. I'll take some. I almost want to like stop getting fed gear
and stuff so I can show how miserable this class is oh we got wizard oil nice
some devs gonna come be like that's not that bad anyways how are we gonna buff
paladin how are we gonna make that class stronger what should we do
Alright, I just gained like 20 spell power.
Okay, Wrath is doing real damage now.
Oh my god.
It's getting there.
Okay, so I need 3, I need Raptors and Zebras.
I'll get the Crossroads supplies later.
I'm so curious about that patch tomorrow. Dude, same.
I hope. I fucking pray to God
that tomorrow
the patch immensely buffs druids, at least when it comes to balance and wrath and starfire and stuff like that.
Immensely buffs, and then I will go do world pvp and have fun.
That's what I hope.
Uh, just pray to God.
Keep coping.
Yeah. 5% damage increase. Final offer.
buff paladins but I don't know and you know I'd like to have this druid kind of
prepped up and ready for tomorrow so I can do some world PvP is forward instead
of alliance scum
I hope they nerf planes running it's too strong I disagree I think people
complaining about planes running being too strong or outing themselves as
retarded or clueless. They they have no idea like how worthless this is actually
gonna be past level 20. Genuine worthless racial completely sacked you'll never use
it unless you're a Tarn Warrior but if you're a Tarn Warrior you're an idiot
because Orc is way fucking better.
You were worried when you first saw it, don't you go?
Planes running?
Well, it's really good for speed running leveling, I guess,
if you're gonna try and optimize your 1-20 route,
but I don't care about speed leveling,
And I don't care about 19 twinking to that degree
It's also just a terrible mechanic, I think planes running I'm gonna say it should be removed and replaced by something else
It's fun and it's cool, but it's shit and it's garbage and it promotes AD it's just not a good it's miserable
like what I don't know bull rush or something like a charge I mean again it
has to be competitive you should sit there as a min-maxing warrior and be like
fuck do I go orc or taran all patrol gets this oh my god undead gets that
wow you're not like that no you just fucking make a warrior or work where
you're done. Decisions already been made. Druid doesn't get a fucking decision. Actually,
I guess Sky Elf gives it to you, but Sky Elf is so horrible. Shaman gets Ghost Wolf, you
should not play Tarn. Maybe War Stop makes Shaman good, but no, Orc is just better in
every way. People saying Plains Running's OP because of some reddit clip of some level
level 1 hunter able to kite the level 1 mobs.
Ridiculous.
5% HP from Tarn is big OP.
It can be pretty good.
Humans get 2% crit with swords.
Dwarves get their crit with maces.
get 2% movement like it there's all these different passives and 1% hit yeah
you have your little passive you get
Predacill Defenders and Geo's.
Okay.
The plan is running as crazy for chasing people down.
You know what's even crazier?
Travel form.
You know what's crazier than that?
Ghost Wolf.
If you're a hunter aspect of the cheetah
I don't know crazy options
It stacks but it actually doesn't you're just lying
The plane's running is awful man, it's so bad.
It's just really good right now on the level 20 beta.
That's it.
In fact, actually I would say it's not even that good on the level 20 beta.
It's only good for warriors.
Do you want Druid to be the best at leveling, best support class in dungeons, and best in
PvP?
Where did I say that?
Man, I don't know. Everyone's pissing me off. I listened to that one Mage Council with
like Ben, Ziko, and Zaryu. I was agreeing with most of their takes, but everyone's just
like, no, no, no, no! Buff Warlock instead! No, no, no! Buff Paladin! No, no, no, no! But,
and everyone's, as soon as someone says something that's honestly like giving, giving Mage Ice
Ice Block baseline is fine to me.
That's fucking fine to me.
So fucking stupid.
No, that's crazy.
Why is that crazy?
Why shouldn't mages have Ice Block baseline, allowing them to actually play Arcane and Fire
in PvP?
This doesn't affect PvE at all.
So you want an offensive?
Amateurs?
I mean, what?
Paladins have bubble with ice blockers, but ice block is crazy.
I don't know.
Because other classes have to speck into shit for their class thing, like Hunter's scatter
shot our hunter is gonna be required to have scatter shot to play the game though
and PvP I don't know if they are especially when you can trap in combat
now but yeah for PvP that's an argument yeah I could see that in which case
they should try and solve that and hunters should be able to play other specs in PvP.
I do think mage without ice block is worse than a hunter without scatter shot. I would argue,
but I see the comparison and I kind of, I get it.
But again, not every speck needs to be good at everything, but when it comes to like just
making ice block baseline, and that doesn't affect anything really except for PvP, and
it allows Arcane and Fire to be a little bit better, even it'll still be worse than Frost.
Frost is still gonna be better.
It just is. It just seems like a no-brainer to me.
If you wanted to play a Fire Maiden PvP, you're not completely fucked. You're worse.
You're literally worse still.
Oh, that's the mage discussion. Now I was just getting mad, reading people, because I was...
Clueless.
I was clueless.
Everyone.
What if, and I mean what if we simply just remove mages from the game?
True, just do that.
I need this tag!
Come here!
Ugh!
Okay, now I need the supplies.
frog out here
Have you tried any other classes no, but I've watched I've watched other people playing so I just kind of look at the numbers they dish out
And I've dueled some other classes like Hunter damage might be the highest DPS right now in the game
It's pretty insane the damage hunters can dish out I haven't seen anyone else do anything close to it
Paladin? No, I think hunters do more damage.
Paladin, again, doing the most damage doesn't mean you're the best. They don't have any self-healing, right?
Now you do have a pet, and we're talking about leveling. There's so many different fronts to talk about.
The balancing, the leveling, the PvP at low level.
The...
DPS and Dungeons, I don't know.
Some people wanting things to be somewhat balanced through the entirety of the leveling experience.
Some people saying, no, fuck it, leave it like it wasn't classic,
where it's just Hunters being the best god-class at leveling.
I don't want that. I'd rather everything be not perfectly balanced while leveling, but
somewhat balanced. Like, try to, right? Focus on end game, but try.
It's a beta bitch about balance when the game is 60.
Well, isn't the ba- wait, what?
This?
Isn't this when you should do more bitching?
Am I confused?
This is bitching stage.
No, because you're 20.
You can easily foresee how things are going to be at 30.
Yo, I'm gonna fucking lose it!
God!
I'm being rage baited. I don't care anymore. No, you're on...
No, I don't believe it.
I cannot read my whispers, by the way, because of the background of this fucking orange.
Can I up the settings?
I'm not talking to you guys.
I see my chat moving and I'm being petty.
I am not looking over there.
I'll figure this out myself.
How do I do this?
So to pop in that dick in his bussy.
Fuck you.
How do I do this? How do I do this?
How do I do chat? Oh wait, no, edit mode maybe.
Edit mode, chat.
Huh.
Can I not increase the...
lack box?
Oh, there's- oh, there's an actual fucking setting here, okay?
Huh.
Whoa.
How do I just make it dark? Ooh.
Ahhhhh.
Do- do I like it just deep black like that?
Oh.
I think I kind of hear you have to look here to handle this beach mouse beach beach map. Nope. Oh
I think I like that blackness it's not bad. Oh shit. Oh no
okay nice fuck I didn't kill enough guys I got distracted
that's trash it's a little off-putting I won't lie
I don't know, there's a new Blizzard post from two hours ago, is it about the wand shit?
I've already read that.
Legacy system.
Uh...
Is there anything new with this or no?
PVP total 12 points, retrink 3, 7, 10 and 13 and 14 for 5 points.
Okay, so you get Legacy for PVP, reach Exalted with each BG, you get 4 points.
I guess 1 per BG, interesting.
How many Legacy points can you have?
Is there not a limit 65 you can only actually spend 16 points okay
Okay, a little bit of damage there.
Inventory is fucking full.
I hate the legacy system, I don't really care about it.
I don't think it's going to be a big deal initially at all.
I do think down the line it will become a big deal and it will become problematic and
hopefully the things will get changed accordingly, but we'll see.
I think it's cool as it's something really new to the game, something for a lot of people
to farm and invest their time into getting.
I don't think change, I think only change it when it actually becomes a problem, not
a problem people foresee coming in, if that makes sense.
It'll get people leveling all, it's like there's a lot of, you can see the whole legacy system
be like, you know, gross, but it does liven the world up a lot, I think, which is super
important so I like the legacy system so to why are you washed up I'm working
hard man I'm doing my best I'm sorry
should probably work on my forgotten pulls quest as well I'll get it surely
You still doing the gym stuff? No I don't know. I'm playing wow.
Why did you get my Druid Bar? How do I do that?
I think it's edit mode maybe?
How do you do it?
Advanced options?
Uh, personal resource display.
Thank you.
Yes, there we go.
And now you go into edit mode.
Uh, wait.
Okay, personal resource display.
Hide, hide.
We only want personal resource.
And then...
it to be crazy thick yeah that's good right there actually
why is this not why is the heart or height not doing shit I don't understand
Oh, now it is. Hello?
What the fuck? It's not working, I swear.
Oh, there's two height bars, no wonder.
Okay, there we go.
Okay, it's slightly a skew, one second.
Hmm, hmm, not quite my tempo. What's going on here? Can we stop snapping?
Oh my god. We're snapped to grid.
Hey Soda, are you happy with where Druids are heading?
I see other classes get councils, meetings, and care.
Even the ones that are historically the best in game.
I fear we don't get the Druid love we deserve.
Uh, oh that looks way better.
Uhhhhhhh!
I like the direction Druids are going, actually.
I actually really like the direction Druids are going, they just need to be tuned up.
One thing I don't like, and I'm worried, and this might be fixed based on gear,
but I don't like that Feral Druids do not have nurturing instinct.
So, basically you don't have increasing your healing based on your agility.
So Feral Druids in PvP or wherever, like, they just shouldn't even take the time to fucking heal.
I don't like that. I do like that Swiftman is there though. That's pretty cool
Opens up a lot of builds
That's by design
Okay, I mean feral's just aren't viable in PvP then
Even more or even less so
All right. I mean, that's how I was I don't care. I'm not gonna play a feral
They have to do some serious design changes to make it work
Fly carrier equals useless. Well you wouldn't play feral while fly carrying. You would play
Resto.
Let's get the waters, fuck it.
Bro, you sound like the biggest min-maxer.
Well, I am.
I do min-max.
absolutely i do
i will say i'm not like the craziest min maxer but in the history of classic
if you don't
play the right spec
or do the right build
your you are worthless
that's kind of in how it is
If you play a feral druid in PvP, you lose to everyone.
You're- it's awful.
You kind of lose to everyone as a druid regardless, but it's more so as feral.
If you duel a warlock as an undead rogue,
you can beat the warlock as undead, but you can't beat them as human.
That feels pretty shitty, but that's...
how it goes. I don't know.
That mage, you beat every mage.
Mage can beat druid in duels, but the druid should win most of the time.
If the mage gets lucky crits, then the mage should win.
But you have to get lucky crits.
Psst, pure RNG.
I'd say a good mage should win like 30% of the time, versus a good druid.
No, maybe not even 30, maybe 10. 10%.
Don't you think it's a bit boring for streamers to be min-maxing the beta already?
Why don't you just enjoy the game?
Sub-Zico?
Uh...
Well, I'm not min-maxing the beta, by the way.
I'm talking about the future of the game.
Like people were upset about your little mage group call that y'all had talking about Iceblock
becoming baseline and I think yeah, Iceblock being baseline, that's fucking awesome.
People were losing their fucking minds over that and to me that's just people outing themselves
as retarded because they have no idea what that even does.
They just, oh my god, giving mage something, don't do it.
And that's the end of their potential thought process.
They don't know what giving Ice Block Baseline to the specs actually does.
In fact, it's a nerf to mages in PvP.
Because now you have mages that are going to play Fire and Arcane.
And yeah, they'll have one Ice Block, but it's going to arguably be worse.
They're just going to do it because it's fun.
So I just, I just question people's critical thinking skills entirely.
Let's nerf Druids by giving them NS baseline.
Well, NS can be used in PvE.
Ice Block isn't really a much of a PvE spell at all in Raiden stuff, it only affects PvP and that's it.
Let me see, I have to look at the WoW Forever Talents.
Gotta hate this WoW Head Forever Talents calculator, it's so laggy, I have to go to this weird reddit post and click.
If we go to mage, ice block is pretty deep in the tree here.
Can you get combustion and ice block? I don't know if you can. I don't really care what I'm selecting here.
Okay, combustion. Or maybe you just don't get combustion in order to have ice block?
Oh, they can still get Ice Block the fuck. Oh, but they have to have improved CS. They
have to take MCS. I guess you maybe just don't have improved counter spell. You can't play
I imagine PvP without ice block. There's just nothing to it. You just can't.
Yeah. Tough problem to tackle.
This is from Ruins of Lordaeron, the gnarled necromancer staff.
Yeah, I do be needing that.
I mean, or you could make, uh, just swap Ice Lance and Ice Block in the Talon Tree,
but that would kind of fuck over Mage leveling early.
They wouldn't have Ice Lance as Frost.
But you just swap those in the tree and make it go deeper, or not as deep.
I'm not sure what's going on.
Why did you leave us to rot on Ally?
First I got Beta to play US Horde, TBC, and then I got dodged at BlizzCon, and now I'm
dodged on Beta.
Well Ziko, as you know there's a level 30 duel tournament, and this relic is Horde only.
What am I supposed to do about it?
Factor in the Olympus being annoying fucking freaks, having to dodge those fucks, and then
factor in that night elf racial is genuine trash worthless I don't like he
might as well as not have a racial sky elves racial are worthless I have to go
Tarnan
I'm not min-maxing I am but I am min-maxing I said I was that's what I'm
doing good night
Skyborne is mana regen in combat. Is it a lot though? Is it that much?
100% mana regen with a regen of fucking zero?
Especially when you're not going to have the talents to give you mana regen in combat yet?
Why do you hate night elves? Explain. Shadow Meld is whatever.
The best value you can get out of it is you can interrupt someone's cast, which is really good, but War Stomp is better.
War Stomp is also shit, in most cases, as orcs will just reduce it and it won't really matter, and humans will just trinket it with your human racial.
But, it's better than what Nidals get. 10% crit and PvP is fucking nothing.
I mean, it's something but it's not gonna compare to a human PvP trinket out of a stun
or undead getting out of a fear or dwarves removing blind or orcs just reducing all stuns.
It's just not comparable.
Can you vanish a spell?
No.
Like, if a Frostbolt is in the air and flying towards you and you Shadow Meld, no.
That bolt is still hitting you.
The best you can do is if they start casting the fear, if you Shadow Meld really early into the fear, like before the halfway point,
you will cancel the fear before it goes off, but then they can just cast it again, right?
And no, it does not take you out of combat, so I cannot Shadow Meld and then stealth.
So, that's really where it's at.
If you really think you can beat Hydra, priests are insane.
If the patch doesn't nerf priests tomorrow, I'm probably not going to play in the tournament
it is a waste of time. In fact I bet the tournament doesn't even happen. It's level 30, to be fair.
I'll take some water too, why?
Why not just make a priest then? Oh I don't have space. Uh, I'm not gonna be Hydra. Then again,
Maybe I could because it'll really come down to just wanting each other and who gets more wand crits
Are you only give me two gold all right gamer I'll take two gold to you why
And I get some shrooms
Any shrooms anywhere?
Any three more, please?
It's in a camp here.
Wanting each other sounds gay.
True.
Is the patch tomorrow confirmed to have anything balance related?
It's not confirmed for anything.
It might just be bug fixes.
The pulls by Wailing Caverns might have more at your right.
I think you were heckin' right.
Fuck it, I'm going south.
I'll grab Centaur Bracers too while I'm there.
Actually, I don't know.
I'm almost level 15, and as soon as I get 15, I can do ruins.
Once I finish ruins, I'll be level 17, and then I can start running Wailing Caverns,
and then I'll be level 20.
So all of these quests are kind of pointless.
Oh, is it 16 for ruins?
Oh nice, I got a hoof.
Oh my god, the double hoof, the fuck?
Nice.
Yeah, I definitely need to do the prerequisite for Crescent Staff.
So it's a Fungal Spore's angle.
Where is this?
Little wizard oil.
Yeah, I'm gonna do this.
I need to get 16.
This is easy XP.
Yeah, I'm gonna do this. I need to get 16. This is easy xp
I'll just do coke our leaders. I don't need to do centaur bracers
In the class you're gonna play next probably hunter
Do you think Skyldr should have both the same racials?
The region of alliance seems really good for casters.
Uh, no, they shouldn't have the same racials, they should be slightly different.
But they both need a buff.
Whoa, new cape for me to fuck, I'll use this.
How many raptor heads do I need? Seven more. I need two hugs. Okay raptors, zebras, and
this boss over here. This is ballsy. Oh, come on.
A lot of damage getting dished out by me though.
Nice.
Fuck, my inventory is so cooked. It's not gonna skin anymore, CBA.
reset the damage meter
you can do current and then I can do...
they gotta work on this damage meter it is so awful
for rock koto bane
Okay, need this guy's head.
Uh, delete that.
Give me that.
Cool.
Do you have any dungeons?
Do you have any dungeons?
As soon as I get level 16, yeah I am.
It's just going to be ruins and then wailing caverns.
Do I need to run deadlines at all?
I don't think there's any gear from there I actually care about.
So no, I don't think I do run deadlines.
It's my Tammer. No. I guess the one Spirit Trinket, but I don't care about it. It's minimal.
It's my Tammer's worse than Glacial Stone, so fuck that.
No? See, ferrule druids can use thistle tea without switching out of ferrule? Yeah.
I did. It's cool. Awesome.
Oh, you're right. Glacial stone is alliance only.
Oh, fuck.
Uh...
Yeah, I forgot about that.
Well, I'm not playing fair all-so, whatever.
Apparently the book turn-ins are huge XP.
Okay.
Well, then maybe I should do that too.
Can I do it at my level?
How does it work?
Okay, this is Alliance. What about Horde? Where is it? Everyone here.
Wow.
Oh my god.
So you just right click a book at a location and turn them in at under city.
So this is an actual planes running angle.
Alright.
And what do you get out of this quest?
Like rings, I think?
10 spell power ring. That's pretty fucking good.
Okay this was, this fucking window is awful.
Oh god. Okay.
Actually how about this? Let me try.
That's way better. Okay.
Okay.
Mages also learn a new profession from doing the quest.
What the fuck?
My level 1 priest is doing as much damage as my level 15 druid.
Don't complain people get mad at you.
I know there's shrooms here.
Fuck, I should have turned in first.
Well, the fuck are the shroomies?
Oh, there's one and it's fucking gone, isn't it, you know?
Jits.
The book quest is cancer. You need a 40-man raid or more to do the books.
All right. Well, again, when I get there, I'll do it.
Do you actually... wow, okay.
Me and Summit did it with five people.
Okay. So it's just easier with a large raid. It's just running the locations and
potentially death-running.
Whatever
No, you don't I did it solo on a 20 rogue you have stealth. You're right. Maybe I can just stealth it
Cool, whatever, you kill these raptors.
Nice.
Nice, 8 out of 12.
And where do you haul of things?
You can, but you shouldn't.
He's so depre- He's so to ever happy.
He's so fucking depressing sometimes.
Negative of shit, I'm a pretty positive guy, am I not?
Not today.
Well, that's your fault.
It all pissed me the fuck off.
I've been x-rated.
What?
Inventory's full, hello?
Well...
I gotta sell.
I also gotta put this here belt on.
I really got to level my leatherworking and stuff too.
I need those.
God, my inventory's cooked.
Am I cooking?
Yep, this is an inventory problem.
inventory problem. Okay. Greetings. Greetings. Go forth to victory. Okay, prowler claws.
And then doesn't, don't I have another quest to go get the shells or whatever? Oh, here
is. Test the seeds. I gotta go south right. Okay.
quest is a shell of what it used to be. That's true. Why am I in a group? Oh, hello.
Why are you rolling tarn the racials?
Three reasons the relic diff this is on horde only the racials and Olympus's aides those are my three reasons
It's funny because Horde or Taran Rations are also godfucking awful, they're just better
the night off.
Nice.
Nice.
This guy need the shells?
At least he has some drop it.
No, he's just testing the seeds.
Oh.
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No, this is testing the seeds.
I just right-click, okay.
Why is Noam strong?
Eureka is really good, and then they also have a CC removal on top of that.
It's two very strong racials.
Any CC removal puts any race in basically S tier.
You're going to download the Olympus Mute add-on in your Gucci.
Okay, but I'm still on Horde because of the relic and because of Taran being just better.
I'm on Horde right now.
Olympus being AIDS is probably the smallest factor as to why I swapped.
It just was a factor.
I don't care that much, hold on.
counter I don't I don't care that much
no I don't need to shove it in there do I need to have her hoods am I not done
with this
Is it bugged or something? No, I'm on Prowler Claws. This isn't for me.
Uh-oh, Gamer.
Crafter head.
Okay.
Alright, leaving the group. Good luck, gamers.
Varog's head, I still need the spores.
Fuck, I should get Varog's head.
Oh shit.
Fourteen slot? What the fuck?
These are in the- We can get these r- Thank you.
You can get these right now?
Holy shit.
How do you even get that?
Fishing? Okay. He said I've fished in Feralas. What kind of gear do you got?
I'm curious if you're out here fishing that hard. Come here Shaman man.
Fuck I can't inspect.
Enchanted.
Gears nothing special hammer bone oh that's from the quest I'm doing right now
Well, Virag the Dervish doesn't spawn until you kill enough Kolkar to spawn him.
Do I grind the mobs here and try and make him spawn?
Oh, no, he's up!
Oh, someone else spawned him.
Nice.
Alright.
That's my take a bit.
Didn't you originally think the Nelforations were better than Taran?
Did it it's not not for a level 30 dual tournament
Also just really wanted to not be a fucking cow it's kind of excited about that, but yeah
That's 60 now for Tarn.
Um, I mean, as it is now, it's still Tarn.
Tarn is, it's still better.
It's not going to change.
Oh, the bag, right?
Let me use that shit.
Look at that motherfucker.
God damn.
Juicy.
Big expansion.
You see, big expansion.
I used to say Turin like an Irishman.
I used to say Turin and everyone always made fun of me.
So I started to say Turin,
but I can go back to my old roots and call him Turin.
The troll should have the druid option.
Troll is worse than Tarn, Perrin.
If you could be a troll druid, I wouldn't.
It's just a- it's- Druid at that point is actually able to be the three shittiest races in the game.
And that's it.
Which would be really funny.
Actually, the five shittiest races because you be Sky Elves.
But actually all five of the genuinely worst races are all Druid- you can't make this up.
It's crazy.
is it troll good no troll is not good and I'm actually looping here I don't
think you should pick a race based on any PvE capabilities unless you're on a
PvE server and you're genuinely gonna avoid PvP like the plague I think all
All of the DPS, or DPS that you'll gain from whatever race you play for the most part will be pretty fucking close.
Like, I don't think it'll be so bad, like, fuck I wish I was none dead, I'd be doing .5% more damage.
Or, fuck I wish I was Taurin, I would sack this 2% crit for 1% hit rating any day.
I don't think you're gonna feel that bad, uh, based on selecting a race for PvE.
They're all pretty close, but PVP wise you will feel bad even if you don't want a PVP
you're gonna run into it.
If you're not the right race, you're gonna feel like shit.
And I do think that's a balancing issue.
Now you can also pick a race just for your looks.
Honestly, that should be what you do.
It should be like that baseline.
it's not. Turn is bis for tank though. PB? Sure. It's fair. 5% bonus health. Okay.
But if we're gonna talk about the damage, Night Elf gets 10% crit, Troll gets 10%
haste, Orc just gets 10% damage, and then you got these passives that are like 1%
crit, 1% haste, whatever. It all is pretty fucking even.
But when you're sitting a full fear and you're thinking,
fuck, I wish I wasn't a troll.
I wish I wasn't undead.
You would just remove the fear.
When you're sitting in a full kidney and you're thinking,
I wish I was a human.
I could just remove this.
You will feel bad for not being human,
or for not being undead,
or not being known, or orc.
You'll literally feel bad right there and then I guarantee it.
I'll take okay disagree with me I'll check it on you in a bit
Ooh, pristine.
I mean, they really just got to buff Racial's or nerf one or the other.
I don't honestly, I don't know what would be easier to do.
This might be a little ballsy here.
I don't know if I should do another one.
My spell power is too low for that.
Oh my god, I'm missing like crazy.
Okay great.
Oh great.
play. Yikes. Alright, I killed one. Look at that.
Okay, yeah, one at a time, she's ass.
Huge war stump now, that's why we switched to her, yeah, you saw that, Evade?
I wasn't sure if they were gonna fucking run back.
I was scared.
5% more HP saved you. I would have played differently if I didn't have the 5% health.
She's right, Taran's OP they should nerf it.
This Wind Blast is this racial passive for the new race?
Isn't that good for Druids?
1% melee and casting haste.
Wow.
Crazy.
that's it
that's it
three
three strength three spirit I wear that
Meld fix them if they gave I don't know if I want wrath meld in the game
That would fuck over hardcore being able to just shadow meld
It's a tough one
Actually now wrath meld could be I mean it would fuck over hardcore though
If you worked in PvP you could like Shadow Meld and then restelth and then count someone yeah, that'd be really good
Isn't it already that the wrath meld at the moment it is not look I was about to Shadow Meld
You can Shadow Meld in combat, but it will not pull mobs. It doesn't take you out of combat
The mobs will just keep hitting you
I'm done with the claws.
It's just a fade then?
Yeah, pretty much.
Then what's the point?
We're asking the questions.
You can try to melt and cancel some casts in PvP.
Like, if they're casting a fireball, I could melt and they don't interrupt their cast,
but it's minimal.
I mean, that or War Stomp.
War Stomp allows you to get a full regrowth off, assuming they can't get out of the stun.
Or you can cast a root on them, so the War Stomp leads to a 9-second CC.
have a big fucking deal. Or I can shadow meld and cancel a fireball.
Hmm. I'm gonna go south and do that quest next. I need two raptors as well.
If you had to delete one class, what would you pick?
Paladin.
Uh...
I mean we'll see how they are in WoW Forever, but in WoW Classic they were...
they were just awful.
If you played Rhett, you're an idiot.
As fan loved it, but it's just the worst warrior.
Um, because you're gonna have fun with it. If you play Holy, you're kind of just a bitch
who's just like, yep, I'm playing the bitch class because I don't get invited otherwise.
So my job in a fight is to just bubble and then heal and fights in classic end in like 5 seconds.
So I'm an unstoppable healer and that's my job. That's my life.
And I just think you're a bitch. Uh, and then you go to raid, I guess, you buff people.
bitch class. It's just so turbo defensive.
The spells everything becomes immune to everything makes this person immune to everything removes all the stairs for a period of time. It's just the biggest bitch class of
unfun shit ever and it's not hard to do either.
Next, I mean Druid is arguably up there on the table too, because it's just kiting and riding and being a bitch. But at least not anyone can do it. They all everyone sucks when they try.
So that's nice, not gonna grab that yet.
But Paladin would be what I remove.
It's just an unfun class to play against.
Well forever might be changing that though.
They actually do damage now.
I think the healing is done a little bit differently which is cool as fuck.
I don't know how it's gonna play out but I'm not excited about their defences because
those haven't changed.
I fucking hate Paladin Defensives.
Bumble!
What do you think of the title WoW forever?
I don't care for it.
I don't think it's good, but whatever.
Are streamers going PvP or PvE?
I don't know.
Uh, I'm going PvP, I don't know what the other streamers are doing.
I was told a lot of them were going PDE.
Define.
Yeah.
I know, I saw.
More tanks the better. I don't know if I entirely agree with that.
I might, everyone's just gonna disagree with me, so I don't want to give my cock a take.
It's just, maybe, shaman tank, just don't want to see how it actually would play out.
Oh
Shit
I didn't use minor oil again here
I see no shrooms.
he's doing group level to 60 why don't you cement your name in the records pass
Speed leveling on launch is gonna be miserable I think
It's really gonna come down to which speed leveling group
Doesn't have a member that DC'd that's how it was in 2019 as well
I guess joker'd got it solo, but there were some speed leveling groups that were I think right there behind him
And yeah, one of them DC'd and it was over
And on server launch kind of hard to not DC so that sounds like a miserable experience
Kenny Marsh from Prague was ahead with DC at the very end
Yep
He says he was 10 hours ahead of everyone I
Don't know how true that is maybe um, maybe I'm wrong and maybe like the mage solo was just faster in every possible way, but
World first 60 is a pretty big RNG fast number one
You got to really know what you're doing you got to have a proper plan
What other groups are gonna do the same plan and it really just comes down to who doesn't DC
That's what it's gonna come down to
Who gets in instantly and
Group leveling is probably gonna be the meta due to the dungeon XP
So you want four other players who log in speed level to I
Don't know 13 or whatever then they all go do RFC together
Then they go do the ruins together. Then they do wailing caverns or if you're alliance it might be vice versa
But same concept and then you meet up again
So you need all the entire team to be really fast at grouping up for the dungeon
AoE farming might be different with spell power changes. Yeah, maybe mages are gonna AoE farm
But I don't think it's gonna surpass dungeon farming with the XP
But I don't know maybe the speed levelers will give you a better answer
Didn't they nerf the XP for dungeons
still busted
at least I'm gonna be the first streamer furry from Austin to hit 60
there's always a world first you can get you know
if you set your own goals focus on yourself
you can get world first
It's true.
World first in my house.
Dude, good job.
You beat your mom.
And wow, like, no more.
Nice.
You can't expect me to show you.
Nice.
Please, please, man.
Look, Tar.
Now, please, Melodon.
Did I not get the next quest for Forgotten Pools?
Hello? Did I not grab it?
Or no, is it the Rune Totem, whatever, go to Thunder Bluff?
So I need to abandon this.
What the hell, am I stupid?
That's under city, raptor head, in the sepulcher, oh it's under wailing caverns, okay, yeah
Alright, I have it. Nice. Okay.
Hmm. I still need to get 16, ideally.
I guess I can go do Ruins of Lorda on twice. I do it once, I turn in three quests,
and then I get it, I run it again, I get another quest, that'll put me...
a little past 16, and then Wailing Caverns. Yeah, I should probably just go do it now.
Yeah, fuck it.
Fuck the fungal spores, TBH, CBA.
I need one raptor head.
Okay, one raptor head's worth doing really quick.
I'll do a little bit.
I achieve raptor head.
What do you think about Blizzard removing restless blades from roadblocks?
I feel like it was balanced no restless blades. Was that the thing where reduced a cool down of all your big CDs and stuff?
I mean, I don't was it balanced. I don't know. Did people really get to play around with it?
They also remove free holy Nova proc from holy fire ticks
All right, um
I'm gonna heal this dungeon
Whistory if you want to go to ruins of Lordaeron. I don't want anyone past the level 17
That's just stupid. I'd rather not just go with 20s. Can DPS. All right, bang
Another shaman, okay two shamans I guess sure
Plains maxing. Sick. Any tanks? Druid DPS can trade. I don't care. Is DPS or whatever.
Or can tank. I'd rather you tank honestly. Do I have to be gay? Yes. And a mage. Ooh,
What about a rogue?
Cause I do want that castor gear.
Oh, here's a shaman tank.
Okay.
Bang, if they pass on the castor gear, we're chillin'.
Already in a group.
Need a hunter?
Fuck it.
Alright, I'm taking lick on balls.
Surely this guy's a gamer.
Alright, level 19 hunter.
Fuck it.
Will dual for SP gear soda?
Do you want the SP gear?
Aren't you playing like enhancement?
Oh my god, they both need SP gear.
They're gonna roll for- oh no.
Oh, no.
What even drops in here that I really need?
I need that chest.
I mean, I might just kick.
I might just be that guy.
Yeah, sorry, gamers.
It's a kick.
I just want castor gear.
Uh, rogue?
Okay, we got a rogue.
and a paladin this guy's level 20 fucking damn it do I just have a 20 just do it all I'll
pass on quest get now I feel bad now I'd rather you just get your own group it can't be that
hard to make a group. 14, warrior. You can't even get the quest at 14. You should go at
15. Let me look at the slash who group browser, quest or no, dungeons, ruins, refresh.
Rotten luck level 17 rogue group invite bang. He just declined me and now that was someone else
Level 20 hunter
Okay, Bo Jovi group invite
Dang.
Oh, another Sharon Quest, nice.
Crazy mace there.
Jesus, and there's a damaged healing staff too.
Alright.
So I'm gonna want to run this place a couple times.
It has been army speds make you go horde.
I'm a horde because of that.
Amen.
Not really.
Yes and no.
I don't care that much.
Okay, now I need to kill one raptor in itself.
south.
losing to Tyler one and pay oh true
I am lagging, I gotta reset my shit.
Okay, run south, turn this in.
Is there a fast way to Org?
I don't think there is, I think I have to run all the way.
why time and not troll I should have played a troll druid you're right what
are you most excited about while forever balance changes a game that's
allowed to be updated without a bunch of fucking losers freaking out over shit
that just does not matter.
Oh, 2019, no changes, we've been fucking sucked.
It was a slippery slope, but goddamn it,
I started to just wanting to change the games
to spike classic players.
Like, they get mad, I'm trying to think of an example
of something that they freaked out about
That was so minor that it was just a quality of life change.
Like I understand no AOE looting.
That's not just a quality of life change.
That, I get it.
But there were some things, now I can't think of them
on the top of my head, but it was like locked
because no changes.
It was like really, oh yeah, debuff slots.
Um...
Friend...
D-Buff, like, there was a lot, and I'm like,
do y'all even actually play the game, or do you just...
Are these bots that just go around in every post and just type no changes?
That was kinda like...
what it sort of turned into.
Ooh, what do I go now?
Do I just start PvP build?
Now I'm just gonna start getting moon glow.
Yeah fuck it, let's try some moon glow here.
You can fly to Orc. You can. You're right, when you have the flight path, you're correct.
Getting moon give one will be viable, I've done some math, and the 100% guarantee on Omen, couldn't you realistically spam rank 1 moonfire for constant omen procs?
Well, that would be terrible DPS.
This guy's name is Moonconform Minmaxing.
I think, I mean, from what I'm seeing with the extremely cheap cost of Wrath, it feels
like they're trying to make it to where Druid spamming Wrath is the equivalent of a priest
or a warlock or a mage, wanding.
It is subpar really shitty DPS, but it's damn near dirt cheap.
Or somewhere in between.
But the issue is, Wrath scaling is so horrible that it's really hard to kill things at low
level.
That's what I think we're at.
So spamming Wrath, and yeah, you can farm for clear castings, whatever.
I do think when I played level 38 at BlizzCon or whatever, I didn't take this Moonglow talent.
This wasn't changed to what it is now.
Now it reduces your mana cost by 25% on damaging spells.
That's big.
Before, it was the 9% to all spells, whatever.
I didn't take this, but I was going Oom really fast.
And Moon Conform didn't have this Omen proc bullshit.
And Wrath was stealing all of my Omen procs.
So now Wrath doesn't use clear casting anymore, which is nice.
So I just don't think you should worry about mana once you have Moonken form, once you're
that deep.
Not a- not a big deal.
That's what she said.
What is that pattern people farm for 17 silver a pop? I'm poor as fuck.
I don't know. Someone told me about it. There's some tea that can drop off the water fuckers in Dunmaroe.
Um...
Where the fuck is Dunmarone? Stupid. Dunmarone. Not Dunmarone.
Locomodan. There's like a lake in here. And in that lake, you kill some mobs and they drop something called Peace Tea and it vendors 17 silver a pop.
Do you know when Bee Gees come out? I don't fucking know, I think you. I have no idea.
The
real money making is kneading on gloves of the thing.
I can see that.
We finally found out that ally players are retarded.
I mean, I've always known that and before you high road, Horde is just as fucking stupid.
This both sides suck and everyone's just high roads.
I guess it's some, I wanna feel superior, dude.
Horde never lets me do a 1v1.
They always come and interrupt it, and then you play Alliance.
Alliance never lets me play- er, 1v1.
They always interrupt it, or vice versa.
It's the same shit on both sides.
God, Horde is so bad in BGs.
They never win those Alliance.
Ugh, Alliance never wins BGs.
It's the same shit.
just notice the ones you lose more than you win. No one respects the 1v1, no they don't.
The abs- go to Ashenvale right now, you find me people that respect the 1v1s there. Every
fucking person running around is in a raid group of 40 people and they refuse to do
any form of PvP, not like that. Because of the off chance that they lose a 1v1 or they
They get 1v2, and their ego takes a little bit of damage.
That can't happen.
Avoid that at all costs.
You miss the zap?
Fuck.
unfortunately you got to start smoking again I'm about to start smoking cigarettes
that's where I'm at just so I can fucking die quicker
I'm not so I'm not that I'm I'm a positive person
I swear I was just today, dude.
Oh, shit.
God.
You already hate this game?
I mean, I've always hated the wild community. I think they're a bunch of losers.
I gotta reload.
Love the game, though.
Excellent.
Okay, let's grab the goddamn flight path this time.
Professor Chaos, is that actually him?
Hey, when your group gets to Undercity, do you want my cozy sleeping bag buff?
How does this shit work?
How much XP do you gain with a cozy sleeping bag?
It's 3%?
I don't fucking care.
It's going out of my way as an XP loss, I feel like.
What do you need?
Alright, grab the flight path.
Now I get to run to under city.
The candy is what makes it good, not the bag.
The candy.
Ooh, that takes a lot of T1.
Thank you, Gamer.
How is this axe so fucking good?
20.5 DPS.
Isn't this...
I mean, is Ruins the same level as Wailing Caverns or something?
It does more damage than the weapons in Wailing Caverns.
Maybe there's no two-hander, I'm stupid.
Paladin Sword is 25 DPS.
Well, that's because the pal- that's like a level 25 quest.
It's essentially like Whirlwind Axe.
It's a twink item for level 20.
I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but I don't know if Paladins are gonna have that.
at level 20 every time and let's see get help doing it there's a wailing caverns
turned it from a quest it's 20 dps also and wailing caverns is a higher level
dungeon so that's just weird
man up on sorry I'll take some more stuff it's this guy's name I don't know I'll
I'll take 50 silver. Fuck yes.
Excellent.
Is he a druid?
He is. He's got that relic.
Wait, he's in my group.
He's in my group.
The fuck? I didn't realize.
Oh, I thought it was a random guy trading me. Yeah, I didn't even notice you were in my group. Sorry
Interesting
Carrot ass looking druid orange ass hair true check dungeon finder RLL is level 11 through 24
Wayland caverns is 15 to 24
Well, Ruins is 15 to 20.
This is 17 to 24.
I don't know about that.
Okay, the Baron, I want to try and farm this chest for the... whatever.
I don't care if the gloves drop, I like that one-hander.
I mean, honestly, none of this gear matters, because I'm going to replace all of it.
Cold spire staff is okay.
All of it is just tailoring and leatherworking, truth be told.
And then some quest items from BFD.
Are orcs still the best for hunters?
Anyone know?
For PvP mostly?
Yeah, go orc.
And if you're horde, yes, you go orc.
That's not even a question.
If you're a horde, yeah.
What about Rogue?
It's either undead or orc, if you're a horde.
No other option.
Who's the two that you pick?
What is the best priest race in your opinion?
For the beta?
No.
But once we reach max level and rogues have kidney shot and hodge doesn't last three seconds
and basically more stuns are brought into the game, I think humans surpasses it.
So our troll is just bad?
I think so, yes.
God, it is so dark here, god damn.
Coming to the beta, Warcraft.
Put a cloak on, weather effects are coming to certain WoW forever beta zones soon.
new rain whoa all right all right that's pretty sick last FPS can we optimize the
goddamn game this is the big update tomorrow there's no balance changes just
They don't even fix the fucking frame issue. They just create less frames.
Oh shit.
Oh, that's good.
Alright, I'll take that.
Okay, we have an actual Omega-geared Paladin tank.
Fully enchanted. Fuck it, bro.
Pull the whole goddamn dungeon.
But I need to train I haven't been grinding my gear is ass I mean dude it's better than ours
Is everyone here
Okay, I'm going to go grab the, uh, let me go turn this question, I don't know, I'll
turn it in later, after we do this place once.
Does the weapon DPS affect your damage and cat in bear form?
long last gamer
it does
uh... you have eleven damage on your thorns your thorn i i i i i i i i i
fucking haven't upgraded it
to current
Uh, let's reset the data.
I don't have an Omen, so I shouldn't even cast.
In fact, I'm just gonna train my Feral Druid level.
Okay, well, keeping this guy topped off is going to be draining.
I pulled.
Can you read your character's name out loud? I cannot do that.
I will use the barrel combat 53.
What skill do I need to get to?
75?
Alright.
Oh.
Ok.
I got it.
I got it.
I got it.
I got it.
I got it.
I got it.
I got it.
I got it.
I got it.
Did he just pull the balls without the spiders?
Okay gamer.
This guy's got this place figured out.
Turn your brightness back up, you're not in the barons.
It's kind of ridiculous I'm not going to have to do that.
in this. Okay, fixed. Ew, gross yuck. Disgusting mail belt. Ruins, wither fang. And I really
care about. I'll be honest Mr. Paladin you can probably pull way more. I'm not even casting
healing spells out here. Okay maybe not that much more. Maybe we'll actually have mana
stuff is okay. He's fine. You do do you game, I don't care.
Is your Pally tank stacking some up on our Red Aura? I think he uh, he has a lot.
Well yeah, we do need the limbs.
True, we do actually have to kill pretty much everything here.
Nice.
Have we dropped threat here?
What's going on?
Oh, he does drop threat?
Okay.
And a 5 seconds stun.
I'll give me all the love.
Oh, yeah.
Meat hook slicer.
You are not a high enough level.
Oh.
But I can grab the quest afterwards, Shirley.
Nice.
Holy shit, Warlock is ass and PvP like actual dog shit.
Uhhh, it's level 20.
Oh, isn't Warlock actually kinda good right now?
Go get yourself a gravestone scepter, and you're like super strong.
What are you talking about?
There was a post about it. I got no mana right now. Oh, fucking cocks.
Okay.
I'm throwing heals where I can.
I just don't do any damage.
I also haven't upgraded my spells in a very long time, so...
You're gonna have to eat my rank 2 Rejuven.
My rank 2 healing touch.
TY.
Wounding actually feels good though.
I hope it stays similar.
Wanding is OP.
Wanding should do less damage than spells.
Right now it's doing more damage and spells.
It shouldn't be.
And then you just factor in the insane mobility.
It's just early game?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just have the mindset of I hope early game is slightly
paid attention to
Like if you were to enter a BG and let's just say you made like a twink guild and your entire team
the entire it's ten priests
That to me is not good even at low level
so
You're just mad that Druid is garbage yes how did you know what you're right I am upset
about that. Crazy. What?
Please say a slur this stream.
What slur should it be?
There's so many options.
Slur to your list?
Oh shit, the Skeptor dropped.
Very nice.
Okay, need rolling?
Holy fuck.
Uh, Seed, you wanna put thorns on our paladin here?
Your thorns is double the value of mine.
I don't have like the next rank trained.
Yeah, this is a heal of the fucking paladin angle for sure.
Oh god, a moon.
I move. That's it. That's it. Lay on hands.
Big mana pot. Oh, it's over. I but pulled my fault.
My fault. It's on me. I'm stupid.
Oh, sorry.
Yeah, I've seen this necklace.
I don't think it's that good.
This is where-oops.
It's a gauntlet.
They come in a way.
You didn't but pull.
I think I did. I wasn't looking, I was staring at health bars, being s- whatever.
Who fucking cares?
Run back.
Can you talk more shit about Skelves, those spurfs want to be motherfuckers?
Skelves?
I actually kind of like the Skelves.
I think the Druid forms need to be reworked, there's that SD version that looked way better.
I don't give a shit about the starting zone, I don't fucking care.
I'm just happy that Druid has another race they can fucking play.
I just wish the race was stronger.
So they are making the race weak so people aren't so made and then they will uber buff
it later.
So made?
I don't know what you just meant there.
Oh, so mad.
Oh.
Yeah, you do have to pay for the race.
I think we're all done with the limbs are we nice no I have six the fuck
Or do I oh I do have 25 I am done okay cool
All right people
Sorry, I'm a low-level fucking bitch
We have no disease cleansing here
Yikes.
Have you seen the epic level 1 ring?
I have seen the ring with the hundred spell power that everyone's leaking around and all that jazz
But I have yet to have seen a single person with it
So I don't think you can get it
Oh, the Palakint spell cleanse. Palins are crazy.
I have it. I just know you guys don't.
Okay, boss time.
You decided which ratio was better for Druid and now for his turn?
It's turn.
It's turn.
No question.
Night Elf is trash.
For PBE Night Elf would be better though.
Even in death I will possess death.
Can I get, I didn't get my chest I needed from the, whatever boss, first boss.
Ooh, I'll take those gloves, the fuck?
Actually, not bad.
Okay.
Okay, that quest is done. Did we get them all done? Ready for turn in? Ready for turn in?
Yeah, I think that's it.
Cool.
Is there another boss in here?
I feel like there might be one.
two more bosses. Okay. Alright, y'all know what's up. Let's do it. I, I hope I can fit.
I just, I just can't. I have too, uh, too low of a level for this. Fat cow indeed.
Whoa, Bjork.
What does this guy drop?
belt that I could use surely it drops blizzard make it happen
Thank you Blizzard, appreciate that.
Nice.
Yeah, the only thing I need out of here is that chest piece from the Baron, I guess.
I guess there's some good cloth pants too, but whatever.
Honestly, I don't even need the chest.
It's just until tailoring kicks in.
Did you get the shield quest from here?
No, I didn't.
Does that have, you have like open a door or something?
And there's a quest from killing some Banshee?
Ooh, an 8 slot bag for me?
Don't mind if I do.
Oh my god.
Oh, this is actually a gauntlet, by the way.
Okay, I'm gonna save mana.
Let me heal him up first.
I got the drink off
So can alliance not do this because we did light this little fire here, but nothing happened like no mobs came in
Nothing was really going on
They can sorry we just stupid
Don't answer that.
It bugs out?
I see.
Well, it bugged for us.
We were really confused.
bugs if you move too far. Yeah because when we were in here we did this dungeon for the
first time me and some friends and we lit this campfire and we just weren't sure what
was supposed to happen. So we ran around the entire dungeon checking everywhere like what
But it just can't fire dude. Turns out it just thunked. Of course. Typical.
Me and some friends. Yeah, right.
Okay, you're right.
Interesting.
What can this guy drop?
Alright, go a little one-hander.
Alright, let's go run out, turn in quest, and then run it again.
How many bars of XP from a run?
a lot but the quest XP is where the real juice is how much am I about to get
7k I don't even know how much this isn't even say I'm gonna get 7k per seven
times 535 thousand XP I'm about to get two levels I'm gonna be I might be I'll
be like 17. Check for shield quest. Yeah, isn't there a door? Or is that alliance only?
Yeah, but I shared the quest already. Oh, okay. So this guy already shared it.
Oh, it's your two loa of a level, maybe.
That could be it.
So there's two quests that require 16.
Noted.
Do I need to go to Org for any of this shit?
No, what about Thunder Bluff?
I don't think so.
I think they all turn in down there.
Well, maybe Sepulcher.
In my opinion, Feral is going to be nuts at max level B in PVP or PvE.
I think it'll be really good in PvE.
I don't think it'll be good in PvP.
set bonuses can change everything you're right maybe there's gonna be a set bonus where your
claw now slows the target I mean if that was in the game Farrell would be disgusting if
you get slow motherfuckers.
Maybe rake applies a mortal rune?
You're right.
All depends on the set bonuses and stuff.
Okay, let's just go turn this shit in.
What?
At this point I could have swam around.
Okay.
whatever should I also need to train
that whatever I can just go with the same down rank spells I'm using train afterwards
Do you really swap because of Olympus because I feel that no no I don't know
where you heard that is my only reason
I haven't got all day
There's an LSF post.
Oh, is that why?
I was wondering, like, this is a...
Soda talking about Olympus.
Oh, yeah, 114 comments.
I see it.
it that's gonna do it love that
it's all that coming I guess so it's a YouTube short on my channel I did I
We'll match the must of a dreadlord.
We'll take the mana pants.
Healing plus 48, yes please.
Uh, any other quests? I'm confused. Where do you turn these in at?
Where do I turn this in?
Is a guy outside under city?
Ohhhh.
Okay.
Sipulture.
Wait, deliver this to someone in under city.
Oh nice, okay.
Yeah, this maze is kind of crazy.
Plague Fang.
Look at this sword, too, dang.
All right, got all the quests.
And the crest of Lordaeron.
Okay, more quests. Cheese.
Is it 430?
I actually might hit level 17 here.
Go back down.
Oh fuck.
Was it down?
Okay.
Not bad.
You're right, I see.
Eugh, what the...
Dang!
Definitely take that ring.
of stamina increase? Sure.
Toxic unending torment. What it what? It keeps going?
Collect the Toxic skill cap from Tani to the
the trade quarter of the tree near the Herbalism trainer, and access the agony from the poison
vendor.
Okay, what's your roleplay shit? Sure.
I need blister weed.
Where do I get blister weed? Do I loot it? Oh.
Ummm.
Okay.
And then I go all the way around.
Check discord.
Uhh.
Yes, I'm planning on getting that off him. That's the off hand I use on my other druid.
Yeah.
Good for druid. Reduces chance disorient effects at you by 7%.
No, it's not. It's horrible. I don't know anyone that wants to use this at any point in the game
Minus one head slide. It's good for transmog and that's about it
But if you don't have a head all right sure minus seven percent disorienting who the fuck disorient at low level
in classic WoW besides gnome priest.
Ooh, first aid trainer, I need this.
Rogue, gouges and a disorient.
Why you don't have that low levels
Where do I get this
Quick about your business. Oh you just buy it
Troll ratio is weird. It's basically just the second first aid exactly. I
Think people will see that troll ratio and be like oh my god. It's so good, but you could just first aid instead
And you're not gonna run into a lot of situations where you're like oh, I really want to heal but
My I have a first aid debuff and I
Can't you you don't need both you still need to you're not gonna run in situations where you need both
back-to-back. It should be a hot. If it healed 50% of your health and it was a hot
that would be fucking insane. Oh, actually you know what? No, that'd be fine. If you
take damage it cancels it. Yeah, I mean that would put it competitive with human
trinket stun. Will of forsaken is if you want them to be as comparable. That's kind
of how good those are. Toxic Skull Cap. Who drops? Where do I get this from?
I
Tawney
They're over there
I have exactly what you mean.
All right, class complete.
Okay.
It's running all the way back now.
What is the worst racial slash class combo? The worst race class combo in the game.
game. I mean my first thought was undead warrior, but I don't know if that's actually the worst,
there might be worse than that. Skyborn something, I'm not even kidding, right now probably Skyborn
something. This is awful, you gain nothing.
Dwarf Hunter?
Dwarf Hunter can be decent, just being able to remove blind. I think Dwarf is a
really strong race people just don't like it because it's ugly that's actually it
and I know hunters can't use maces but Dwarf Rachel is pretty useful
Dwarf isn't ugly and you can feel that way but people I think disagree with you
based on the data of people and what they play Dwarf is like Omega base in
Classic for a lot of or for recently some people still didn't want to play it. They don't like it. It's ugly to most people
I'm heading back up I
Don't even think people like maybe I'm wrong here, but I don't even know if people like being known
But, maybe I'm wrong.
I could never play a gnome or a dwarf, I could never do it.
That's my plus healing right now
51 damn
It's all just it's actually all the weapon straight up all weapon
You need to go back and poison the worm oh
Oh shit. Can I just do this after? It doesn't have me run ruins again, does it? I'll just
do it after. It's free XP. Yeah, but we're running ruins again, so...
I'm gonna make everyone wait too much here. Oh my god, two talent points. Alright.
Deep moon glow.
Do you know if heroes need attack power on a weapon later on? No, the DPS is, it affects catforms DPS.
Uh, are they in? I think they're already in.
They are absolutely not in.
The other questing, okay.
Well, I'm baiting.
You want to turn in UC Quest? I mean, I guess I might as well go do it.
I need to get someone else for this dungeon.
Uh, Slash Who?
Group Browser? My game crashed.
I can come? Alright. Sure.
I
Plains running buff
It is really dark isn't it I can't see anything
You got TTV in your name, classic.
Oh fuck, the double name is actually perfect for TTV, Andes.
Do I just name myself Soda TTV?
Do I just do it?
Ugh, so troll.
What now?
Hey, Big Hex P?
Damn, 2% faster.
I'm zooming right now.
Better than naming all my characters like Terule Terule.
It is kind of weird.
I feel like everyone who's played games for a long time has their name, right?
there's no what do you add to it
what do you what do you add to it it's
weird
rp names storm fire is that the answer
here
I'm gonna just add a slur, this.
Alright, let me buff you with- I have really shitty thorns, gamer.
Actually, maybe he snap shot it. Nice, I got it to eight.
For really he's gonna be slow. Let's just go.
Shit's easy. It's just four man.
What do we even need to do in here?
I think we just need to kill the spider boss, right? Is that it?
Uh, you need Baron? I mean, mine's will kill Baron, but yeah, we don't really even need to do the full dungeon.
The crest is 9KXP, we already got the crest.
That do be done.
So, are you really remaking Druid for the Shapeshutvital?
That, and amongst, you know, some other things, but yes, that is exactly what I'm doing.
The Shapeshutvital's fucking crazy.
There.
It's fucking gross.
Okay, that's done, let's kill Baron.
And that's it. What does it do? It reduces the mana cost of all shape-shifting by 40.
Flat. Look. You can only get it in the Sky Elf Zone as Horde. Cannot get it on Alliance.
40 mana is nothing.
Okay, you can live with that.
I'll live on a different planet.
It's really dark in here.
Why is your game so dark?
I don't know.
I can't see shit though.
I fixed my brightness, I put it back to where it was.
I don't know.
Secondary lighting bullshit probably.
I
Didn't drop the chest whatever fine moving on all right, let's go turn these question and then it's a wailing caverns angle
Yeah, it's just secondary lighting
It's actually still pretty fucking dark, damn.
Your brightness reverted.
I don't, again, my brightness should still be 50.
I logged out with that, so it's saved.
Okay, it's at 40.
I was wrong.
You're correct.
I
The last quest is in Brill.
I reserve this guild name for you, MakeWowGay again.
It's pretty solid, they might have to actually join that guild.
So are we doing Hunter next?
Potentially.
Callie, ugh.
Maybe a third Druid, how about that.
Watch them buff the fuck out of Sky Elf and then I have to re-roll again to level another
fucking Druid.
Do you require them? Speak quickly.
Okay, so what do I do here?
Let's go to the disappearance. Okay, I don't know where that goes.
To the system above Oathmar's body.
Who's Oathmar?
That's Adbrill.
It's a big worm.
Oh, is that Adbrill?
I'm confused.
What is it?
Requires the apothecary and feeding tubes.
Feeding tubes. Where the fuck are those?
Upstairs to the right so ups is this it
No way above I guess over here maybe oh is it this thing oh god
It didn't work?
Nice.
And you are...
Okay, quest complete.
And then you also have a quest in Brille.
That's the other one here.
7K XP.
I'm gonna hit level 18 from fit... wow.
Okay.
Sure.
I guess a
Sepulcher on the on the road outside of bro, okay
My heart goes to Thunder Bluffs, so I'm ready to hearth and you know head to wailing caverns pretty quickly
It's not in Braille it's to the right where the skinner hangs out. All right
And then maybe I should run a Sepulcher just to grab it be done with it
It's also dropped a lot of shit off into El Banco real quick.
I don't need all this linen cloth and whatever.
shit. Cell, cell. I don't need to have that on me. I'll take that for Thorns Dam, actually.
that don't need snap jaw shells maybe I know I do need that new tenants insignia
can I get rid of this I don't know if I don't know more linen horse thread yes
That's a CRMC quest, okay so I must be done with it surely.
Alright, that's good enough.
Wait no, one other thing.
Okay, sack of gems, sure.
Okay.
Silver pine is where that turns in.
Chat is wrong.
It is silver pine.
This Paladin's rather confident.
Alright, so fuck thrill, I'm running the silver pine.
Are you doing a long stream on launch day?
I would imagine.
Options nameplate style cast focus by the way you if you still need a way to see enemy cast without add-ons
Will it show in their nameplates
Interesting
Uh, what on option name plate style? Cast focus. Cast focus. Interesting. Hold on, there's
a re-log here? So now I can see cast from name plates. Is this a good name? Tong, tong,
Tong 6 7 I think it's a great name but it would be better if you put a slur in it
somewhere
just my humble opinion was a go right first no way no way
real class gives you the now necromancer staff i've already done that i have that in my inventory
what is tongue tongue
Is that a meme I don't know about?
Triple T. Tong Tong Tong.
Okay, we're gonna YouTube this and we're gonna see what you just typed or what you've
acknowledged you've bestowed upon me.
Tong Tong Tong.
Goddamn.
Drink it up, hit my master flat, do the crown like a wonder fan.
Ba-ba-da-ba-ba-da-ba-ba-ba.
Ta-da-little, ta-da-la.
Every hit there's a metal gun, does that sound like a smoking gun?
Ta-da-pa-da-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba.
Ta-da-little, ta-da-la.
You lost 100.
Okay. Uh, anyone want to go to Wailing Caverns? Spellpower gear on res?
Skibbity Scafa.
right
other shaman level 17
you have to watch the original
I'm so excited to see the original of whatever the fuck this is
Tung tung tung tung tung tung tung tung tung sahur anomaly mengerikan yang hanya keluar pada sahur
Konon katanya kalau ada orang yang dipanggil sahur tiga kali dan tidak nyawa
It's not an- I don't use add-ons for the map or for the quest.
I'm on team meteor.
Yeah, they can hurry up.
they really can fucking hurry up
I'm debating do I go
engineering
or tailoring
I gotta look again and see what I get if I go
uh...
I'd like to have the fucking grenades
I don't think I get that much out of tailoring
leatherworking you still get gear
Engie is not worth right now? Yeah, I understand. You have to get leather working, but I don't need skinning, right?
Alchemy bombs are crazy, but do you have to be alchemy to use those?
No, engineering goggles are just worse, actually.
Didn't realize you were buying gold. Well, I'm getting gold from fucking viewers, which is phenomenal.
Love that.
I have exactly what you need.
Okay, a little bit of XP.
I did grab the flight path, I think.
Yeah, I did. Alright, that's hard.
I would not accept. I'm sure you wouldn't. You're ethical.
You going horde on launch?
I'm looking for any reason to go horde.
I'm praying to god that they buff the fucking racials of Sky Elves.
I really don't want to play Taran.
I'm looking for a reason to play Sky Elves, genuinely, on horde side.
That's essentially where I'm at.
I don't want to play Alliance, I just don't like the player base.
Umm...
All my friends want to play Horde instead.
So I'm just, I'm looking for a reason to go Horde.
I mean, honestly, I might just play Turin.
If Sky Health stays shit, I just, I just play Turin.
All right, new spells here.
Fairy fire, very nice.
Swipe for bear form.
Demo roar.
Bash.
New ranks.
Regrowth rank 2.
Healing touch rank 3.
And balance thorns rank 2.
Wrath rank 3.
Nature's grass 2 and Tangling Roots 2.
Moonfire rank 3.
Okay.
Damn.
There's a Feral Druid weapon right there.
Sky Elf only Druid on Alliance?
No, you beat Night Elf too, but Night Elf is also just shit.
All the Druids don't get fun racials.
They just don't.
All of their options are bad.
Do I always have the time to train or just head to Dungeon?
You got time go train dog where you at the crossroads yeah go train
If you could pick any race for druid well what I go
Human I'd pick human instantly I would lock that in so fucking hard
Or orc orc is also really good like I'd probably go orcs. I want to be on a horde side
Not picking undead undead's a close second actually yeah
Being able to will the fears would be nice
My opinion troll drew it would go hard, I don't even care about how they look I care about the ratios troll
Racial would be if they brought in troll drew it right now, and you had the troll ratios
That's worse than Turin, and that's worse than night health
So bad
Ooh, I can heal myself, bruh, I just fucking cast a regrowth.
Trolls get haste. Cool. Orcs get 10% damage.
Fucking care.
What about berserking?
What about it?
No, they don't get 10% damage. I thought they did.
That was 10% melee attack power and 10% spell damage. I guess that doesn't really buff the base damage a lot of your spells. That's true.
Yeah.
Why do you care about rations this much?
Because when I'm playing the game as a night elf and I see a druid 1v1 a rogue and that druid wins because of warstomp.
And I don't have warstomp. I feel bad.
And that is an actual thing.
If you're a rogue and you duel a priest, and you lose to a priest, because you didn't have
Will of Forsaken, that feels bad.
Now that's gonna happen every now and then, but there should be some matchups that, hey,
you have an advantage versus this class because you're a troll.
There's none of that for troll.
In almost every situation, you'd rather be a different race.
Troll doesn't ever help you.
War Stomp can be pretty good for some classes, but human shrink it.
Imagine removing a kidney.
I mean, they're a big deal.
Grab that.
Troll Boomi would be good.
No, no, it wouldn't do.
I'm very confident on my opinion on what races are good, so people disagreeing, you can disagree,
I'm just, you're not going to budge me. You can get this from one of the Alliance
rare spawns and patrols in the barons. Okay cool, but it requires level 21.
Bro, your name is good. You like that shit? It's really good, right?
Did you do racial studies in college?
They call me the race connoisseur.
I know all the best races that there are.
Made it tearless not long ago.
the
Oh god.
Broom, boom, boom.
What's the best alliance tank race?
See, that's debatable.
Because we don't know how difficult the PvE is gonna be.
If threat is an ongoing issue, you might wanna go night elf, so that you can get that crit.
Right?
But if, you know, surviving is the bigger issue, I mean maybe go dwarf for the reduction.
I predict it'll be threat being the biggest issue.
But I don't know.
And who cares PvE is not a big deal you you're not gonna pick a race and then
See someone else be like oh man. I wish I was this race. They're doing 1% more damage than me
I don't think you're gonna feel that bad based on your picks for PvE
Yes, I will okay, well then pick the right race
I think I just run back. I think running's faster than flying.
You gonna farm all the feral on SP gear again? No, I'm just farming the SP gear.
truth be told I don't really need to farm anything I just need to go level
tailoring and leatherworking I guess I have to farm gold and then just make all
the gear run BFD a single time run SFK a single time and I'm done
caught back up
I do need to farm this offhand from Wayland Caverns.
Uh, is there? Let me see.
I don't care about anything there. Bag is cool.
Don't care. Don't care.
Cloth, shoulders. These drop off him?
No, it's the offhand. I don't know why it's not showing me that. It's wrong.
Uh, don't care about that.
I don't care about the healing staff.
Yeah, I only care about scum and his little offhand that he drops the bucket.
Quest Shoulders.
Yeah, but again, I'll get that done.
Just need to get the thingamajig.
Are you gonna switch to Feral for leveling or staying boomy when the cap is 30?
I'm gonna try and level his balance.
fucking forbid. I'm gonna attempt it.
Feral is like, I mean I just don't see it being bad or I just don't need to see it.
It's just auto attacking in cat form and then heal. Auto attack in cat form and
then heal. That's fine. It's gonna, it's good. It's one of the fastest levelings,
especially with the Feral Swiftness.
It's literally fine. You just drink. Yeah, maybe it's fine.
Right. It's gonna be slower.
No Heart of the Wild. No. No Heart of the Wild.
I got moon glow, now I'm getting natures, I'm trying to get this natures splendor, increasing
duration of moonfire and rejuve by 3 seconds.
And regrowth by 6.
I mean this is a pretty good talent.
For everything.
Even resto.
I don't really give a shit about gift of the earth mother right now.
If I had two extra talent points, I would go into resto to get reflection though.
disgusting but 17% mana regen and combat ain't worth it.
Can we tell me your gold farm strat? I asked my viewers for gold. I beg
actually and then I start barking it's pathetic and sad. I do get gold it works
so don't hate the player, hate the game.
Go on, pigs.
Feel free to browse.
Good enough.
Good enough.
Okie dokie.
I'm ready.
Will bark for gold, I'm sure you would.
Uh, hold on, are we all here?
Plains is almost here.
Waiting on them.
how many quests in total I think there's three if you've done the bullshit okay
Plains Maxi accepted.
And then this one maybe.
Oh and there's four at the end of the dungeon.
You'll get one to truly die.
What is happening?
Are they getting PvP'd out here?
Oh they are.
Gotcha gamer
Maced
I shink for a good, but I got a rest to really where the hell is this bullshit
All right, lone wolf huh Jesus what the fuck I guess 10 intellect is good for Hunter what
What is this gear?
Lick on balls?
What are we doing here?
That's a white weapon.
Has nothing dropped for you?
Increase your attack power by 100% of your intellect.
Oh, wait, genius.
All right, well I'm gonna be judging you guys on the damage that y'all deal
I am gonna be looking at the meters and everyone is gonna laugh at you for doing bad
So get ready to game
I'm healing, so I'm exempt.
my mace here.
Nice.
Oh, I just muted sounds, whoops.
Alright, how much of my thorns is actually doing?
Pretty good amount.
Summons are completely oom.
Hunters should be topping.
Yeah, it might be a bow diff.
Maybe he'll get Venom Shrek.
The ICD on Venom Shrek is like, not exist-
Oh! Pfft!
Look at that, gamer!
Is that an upgrade for him? It's 1.6 speed.
Current bow is...
...fucking shit as well.
Bro, Horde sucks, holy fuck.
It's true, man, true.
We do not have a dispel for these sleeps, just FYI.
If I'm asleep, it's sad.
What kind of voodoo spell are you casting with this music?
The strongest?
Tremor? Do you have- they have tremor totem?
At this level?
Yes? Oh shit, okay, alright. I didn't know.
Yeah, my soup? Alright, hang on.
Oh, he's fine, right?
Surely he's fine with one last little healing touch, I gotta...
Beech, mouse, beech, beech, mouse.
They keep going without me good
I'm coming. I'm coming. I'm here
They do we need some heels
I have a problem, I have a song stuck in my head and it's actually miserable.
It's lava chicken.
With Jack Black.
Lalalala lava chicken.
It's been in my head the whole fucking day.
It's not been fun.
Did they kill Lady Anacondria already?
No? Okay.
God, healing is so fucking great.
I don't have to do anything.
I'll put on my spell power staff, and a couple of fat thorns here for the team.
Melondo is having a solo warrior council, is he?
I don't think there's enough Druids in the game for a Druid Council.
all three of us
I can't believe I'm going to die in this game.
I can't believe I'm going to die in this game.
My hair keeps going in my damn suit.
Why no spoon?
Well, I'm trying to sl- it's like if the rim of the bowl is filled entirely up.
So I'm trying to drain it a little bit.
Fucking microphones my way.
Wow, six spirit. Okay, I'll take that.
I'm not a chicken, I'm a chicken, I'm a chicken, I'm a chicken, I'm a chicken, I'm a chicken,
I suck at my head man.
So I know these shamans have tremor totem, but I don't know if they're paying attention.
Okay, they weren't.
Boom.
My asshole.
Oh, fuck, he's outranging my- it's over.
Oh!
God, it's hard to keep him up.
I don't know what song it is, but I'm like, I'm a sinner.
but during a burner or something and then it's somehow converged a lot of a
chicken it's just I'm pivoting all these different songs it's actually miserable
on my head right now
this is awful
I already have wild brain. That's some brain rot shit. I don't know that's wild brain
Rats
You're so cool and unique for playing Druid, how can I be more like you?
Well, I might be re-rolling, because everyone's playing Druid now.
It's like number three in the most played classes.
me to fuck off. Might have to re-roll that hipster to what I don't know what's
So at least played class.
Quick, tell me.
Undead Paladin?
Nice.
No one plays that.
I need a Skyborn to be mages.
You'll never wake the dreamer.
This guy drops the chest I want.
Lizard?
Please?
Plus healing chest?
It always drops in normal era.
Well, it never drops here, does it?
Unfortunate.
I love a chicken but you don't know what the fuck he says in the song.
play it so you don't forget
where's a lady fuck fuck
She's right there, okay.
Nice.
Blue's gonna pull. I mean whatever. What do you want kitty cat, huh?
Want some lava chicken? Oh. Okay, hello kitty. Hello. Oh god.
Let's not get hair in my soup.
All right.
Hello, Genzi. Hello.
Hello, Genzi.
Now you can stand against the serpent lords.
Okay, let's go.
Take tremors.
Wow.
Wow.
Does anybody honestly the hunter can take a soldier's grass gamer?
Did I not loot the gem?
I didn't.
No! Truly got the bag, rats.
Hi, Olympus Officer here. You have done irreparable damage to the pristine reputation of our guild. You will be taken out and I will restore Asmigold's honor.
Stars but gay. Dude, no way.
Well, Kota's in my room too. What is that Kota?
Oh, it's a cow ear.
And we actually bought a bunch of treats for all the dogs, and they had a special sale on, I kid you not, cow ears.
And they're good for dog's teeth to chew on and stuff.
50-50 is a satire message. It's fucking stars.
Is a satire message.
But also very serious
Chicken feet, I think we got chicken feet too. We got all sorts of stuff, but we basically went full shopping on
On just an insane amount of dog treats and toys
Cat stuff too
It's crazy they had like this whole section of just unwanted things
I don't know what other use you're gonna get out of cow ears and pig ears and chicken feet
All this weird shit
You can see I'm shooting on it right there hang on you can see the big cow ear
He's getting into it
Of the wolf
Try it, I don't think I will
Good
There was actually some beef jerky they were selling at the dog store
And they were so confident. They're like, yeah, actually I snack on these myself
I'm like at the end of the day. It's just beef and it's grass-fresh beef like crazy. Is even the dog food in the store
Try eating one I actually could we I have them
It's a dog food like beef jerky, but it's just beef jerky at the end of the day
It's human grade
Healing plus two fucking I'll take those
Yeah, you're a 10c was that year for for Louis
Oh, it's Louis now, Kodomo's the left.
You're barking for gold and contemplating eating dog treats?
What's that tell you?
I'll take that belt too.
I'm gonna take a lot of pictures
I'm gonna take a lot of pictures
Oh, I know, Louie took your ear and you're sad, I know, get out, go away, stop that,
stop that, Kota stop.
Just like licking, I think I spilled soup on my lap.
It's not his, he already ate his.
I know.
Okay.
Alright, man.
I'll make sure Lumi keeps this one.
I use dungeon journal
Not at this loop.
She here.
They call her a fish out there quite a bit.
No no no no no no no no.
Okay, we're taking a lot of damage out here.
Ouchie.
Ouchie!
A couple thunder claps doing half our health.
Okay, resisting everything.
I am in combat at the moment with the deviant shambler.
Chicken feet are actually sent to China as a delicacy, yeah?
Yeah?
Okay.
Good for them?
I saw some video of some chick eating like a turtle shell and it freaked me the fuck
out was like heated up and it became almost bent like malleable and just weird
you watch weird shit I mean dog all it takes is just one bad scroll on a YouTube
short and it's fucking over
Like my YouTube shorts right now are all baseball things because I watched one baseball video.
And then I watched one motherfucker get his toes cleaned and I was like, ugh, this is
really gross, but I'm going to keep watching and now it just turns into pimple popping
and toe cleaning.
Um, it's disgusting.
I
Watched a guy that test baseball bats. Yeah, I get some of his shit. I think that's actually what I'm gonna watch
And then I had a baseball algorithm
Or I'll watch I don't know some wow short and then Jerome pops up in 50 different variations
Talking about this new game breaking mechanic. You won't believe what this guy did to get warglaives
And it's like just a fucking nothing burger
Oh, I'm feared
But I watch him
25 armor shoulder pads, no way.
I hope to god I get my fucking off hand. I don't want to have to run this place again
It's the only thing I need that's there's no it's my best for my level 20 beta this
But it is
Get in melee
Oh
Oh no, hey, no, please do it. Oh, no. Hey, you already had yours
When we go, please, please wait good boy. I'll hide that
Oh no, I gotta press buttons.
Blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Fuck!
Oh, maybe I can solo him?
Like, I could just...no, I'm not gonna have any fucking feral gear.
Maybe not.
I just gotta find a stealth group.
you just made a Jerome short oh I can't wait
Yeah, I can just find a rogue that's willing to go try and get that dagger.
We just stealth all the way through and bang.
I didn't want to have to do that, but I'm gonna have to.
Bash fine.
This is quite the pull by the way, and I'm very oomph.
Like I got this one heal, and that's it.
Good luck.
I got one more
Okay, can I get some blessing a wisdom, please don't know why I've got might
I don't know why.
I'm watching my drone is fully geared and can stealth tank okay well you know when the
time comes.
Sky elf mini-intervate.
Woohoo!
Wow!
that's Alliance right? Horde gets Movement, Alliance gets the little mini-Innovate.
Yes.
Okay.
God.
6 out of 7.
So I need one more blue fuck, then I start up there.
I am the Serpent King, I can do anything.
This is quite the pull in here, I won't lie, I'll stick with healing.
that's rough wrong boots
All right, let's kill this freak
14 SP. Oh, wow, that's a weapon, yeah. I don't even know if this guy drops. Uh, chests?
no living route but i have my mace which is better
i have 48 healing oh my god c cloud buckler
all right let's go do the escort quest real quick
Yeah.
All right, he's starting up, nice.
Do we want to kill El Crescio?
Too late, I pulled it.
of
Cause everyone re-leveling.
Wanna get off work I will.
Yeah, I mean, Starz is already re-leveling, everyone's just re-leveling, everyone just
fucking said fuck this and went home.
I think we got to go over here by it guys up here
Yeah right here Sars is sad he put it at least five days played into that mage freak fuck
five days you know I mean my druid is done my alliance sure there's really not much more
to do other than farm a rest-o set and some book collecting.
So I was starting to fuck over.
I start losing the music might be at that stage of the game here seeing the full text
chats posting it I will not refuse I don't want to know the words that'll
just send me deeper into my mental health problems I have
L-l-l-lava! I can't! Lava chicken psychosis.
She bangs, she bangs, oh baby, where she move, she move, that's a good one, I'm starting
singing other songs
Are we peeing?
You having fun? Yeah, that's fine. It's a world of fucking warcraft.
I love it.
I'm listening to music in game or out of the game I have to listen to things my I'm actually
to go fucking psycho. What is this? Lights? What's the muse? It's very background music, goodness.
No, I'm not going to play A on two.
I don't know anyone who's going to play A on two.
Then again, I'm in a wow world.
Everyone's a wow gamer around me.
Can't even hear it.
Sony is.
Okay.
Give it a try.
I
Goodness gracious.
Well, let me put thorns up.
Four strength, four stem.
Leather chest.
Wow.
It's actually a really good chest for bear.
Thorns and Redora with SP Sack is kind of crazy, I know.
It actually is.
Have I had genuine spell power?
Again, I can give you 26 damage reflect if I had real shit.
What do I even want to drop here?
the ring maybe?
Okay, well.
Wow.
Unfortunately, there are no warriors in this group.
Sad.
All right.
Let's run the hell out of here.
You.
Paladin can take it. Oh, yeah, true. Oh, Grats, Paladin, you're right.
Check out this clip, Summit streaming World of Warcraft.
I'm not saying like I never sat a mile away, but I'm saying you know calm my attention randomly is a pass by is a very
I think
What do you know
What are we even looking at work cheeks, I don't even see the work
Oh this guy I was looking at the actual players
Him okay, he's got some cheeks
So to save dungeon quest a hand in when level cap raises for big XP, I'm not gonna do that because I don't care
I'm fully aware you can do that
TBC Kara slash heroics. I think I do. Wait, Neil, is that you? Oh my god, it's you. I
didn't even realize it was you, dawg. The fuck? Oh shit, alright. That's fucking Neil.
I had no idea!
Good evening, Gamer.
Scotty, Jada, wow, YouTube wants to know something.
Can you equip the five-piece Fang set
and then go to the barbershop
and choose the snake as your cat form,
and then remove the set to see if it stays a snake?
All right. Thanks, Gamer.
It's already been tested, it does not work.
Already been tested.
you can tell me it doesn't work
i'm listening to music again
blasting throws people up to yeah
like i understand why they're doing the last name
and i know that it's necessary just because this is not enough names out
there
Gamers their whole life have had one name like soda poppin or vey or neal or terruli
Ziko Ben rookie not
There's no last name. It's just not ever been a thing in any game ever
So it's just awkward
You're weird.
Maybe some other MMOs have done it, but I don't know, I feel like that's it.
It's probably only ever going to need to be an MMO thing.
Lalalala chicken
Fuck
I'm not overworking I'll be on tomorrow
Tomorrow I got poker practice as well.
Uh, yeah.
Tomorrow I plan on finishing up my palering and leatherworking.
Ideally, I'd beg for gold from viewers.
That'd be ideal so I could just, you know, power level it.
Uh, if not, I gotta go farm money.
Just fine.
What brings you here?
And then after that makes them all the gear I'd like to run SFK and BFD a single time
I don't need to run it more than that
And that's it
Then maybe I try and make a group and just camp Olympus players or ours
Just one single poor fucking Olympus players until they G quit that might be considered abuse
So I don't know if I can get away with that
I don't know
You should I think I'd actually get in trouble for camping that hard. I guess I can always just layer
Nightmare, nightmare.
Ganging up on him.
I gotta run over to ratchet and talk to that fucking freak and then run back.
what's the Olympus hate? What have I missed?
Aswin Gold is making a guild.
He invited all his viewers.
Of course, the limit is a thousand.
So then another Olympus was made.
Olympus two, and then Olympus three, and then four.
I think they're on like Olympus nine.
And I think the people running each of those guilds are fucking retarded.
I think they spam invite when you spawn in.
Then again, lots of guilds do that.
It's just typical.
The players are fucking brain dead.
of them for the most part. I would bet half of them don't even know they're in
the streamer guild but that's fine. But it's sort of a plague. It's a little AIDS.
So a lot of people are trying to either A get away from the Olympus freaks or B
go horde just to kill them. Olympus members are an on-site situation and I
I think that's pretty much goes on the whole horde.
That's where it's at. That's an update.
But that can be fun.
it's 30 guilds Jesus it's so many wow there's actually 30 30,000 player I mean
I'll be honest that's impressive you can't say that's not extremely impressive
They probably aren't all full, I mean, it's kind of like wanting to be like a reddit mod
or something, right?
I think there's a lot of individuals that might feel really powerful that they get to
own and run a guild with a thousand members in it, so they just start making the guilds
Olympus 25 and just start inviting
So it just kind of goes they may not even fill up all the way so but still
Pretty crazy
They spam invite to as been later, I don't know if they're meaning or not
Because it was actually a thing in 2019 classic like on Fairlina all it was ever is just people
were as invite to asthma everyone wanted to go on asthma's layer to be a part of whatever
asthma is doing with his stream right again not the biggest deal it's pretty easily avoidable
But now it's still going on.
There's a mod that bans all chat from any Olympus members.
Yeah, if I was on the lines, I'd install it, but I think it's going to be more
fun to kill a lot of Olympus members.
Has been said that's racism. What if it is what if I am racist and proud
of
the
So to read my damage in the meters
6-7
That's where you want me to read.
Broom, boom, boom.
I don't have any other quests to turn in.
Leaders of the Fang, that's 6,400 XP.
Uh, plus this glowing shard sit, shit.
14k. Fuck, I'm actually really close to hitting level 20.
I'm right there.
I guess an SFK quest would do it.
Oh, Book of Ur.
Dang, those gloves are good.
Healing plush eleven and then eight stamina.
That's pretty good.
Oh, Cherigan.
I opened my map at the worst time.
Oh, there's that 8th Stam ring.
Yeah, so I just need to run SFK, and I assume there's some BRD quest for Horde as well, right?
I need to do BFD tomorrow in SFK.
Actually I could have went up a different way I spaced out whatever
There are extra quest in BFD for horde can I see the rewards for those I just want to see what they give on the horde side if they're different
Band of the fist from BFD quest I don't care about that
Maybe it's in the dungeon journal checking BFD. Oh quest. Look at this. Okay. Hold on. Didn't know
All right BFD quests trash trash
Damage and healing shoulders plus eight and four stem those are pretty good
Hold on oh
Shit, and you get these pants too. Yep. That's what I was wondering wondering about
Do I get the belt as well?
Okay, so I don't get the belt that's okay
All right
Nice
And then let me check SFK
There's also these.
Ooh.
Leather shoulders.
Dang, healing plus nine.
And a nine stamina.
Pretty fucking good actually.
It's a warlock quest.
okay you get all three I'm pretty sure is there crafted belt in this game from
leatherworking and others gloves boots but is there a belt yes yes but it's
It's low level. Like a level 15? It's pretty decent.
You're jealous from Olympus?
Yes, I am.
Or is it 10? No, the boots were 10.
12?
Should buy this one.
Little feral druid weapon, but whatever.
Go in peace.
Alright.
Can I see, fuck, I gotta see the crafting recipes.
Where, so I know for Alliance it's in Red Ridge.
Where is it for Horde when it comes to the turn in shit?
Crossroads? Oh my god, that's so good.
okay we fucking love the crossroads it's where I'm at west of crossroads okay
it's right there
fuck Red Ridge oh fishing trainer yes please
Stormriders belt level 12 yes that's really that's a good fucking belt
killing plus eight damage three yeah I think I go with the wisdom's leather
belt and then there's 20 gloves and there's a level 20 hood there's some
good things yeah very nice all right well I think that's it for the day
everyone I'm gonna be on tomorrow and tomorrow I'm gonna finish up all my gear
and probably just be done well I also have to do SFK and BFT hopefully those
don't take too long and I gotta run away the caverns for the offhand and then I
gotta collect all those books a lot either way if you're going balance is
tailoring better I have to look into maybe maybe I do tailoring as well but I
no leather is fine I like the armor from it anyway GG's everyone have a