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oh fortunately let's not on the radio um atlas didn't like it
I don't think yeah you got to do it like right before your shift starts if you're
trying to get your own one on the on the stream and then you can
but you do it anonymously yeah and then you rate it really highly and then
you reveal after everybody else rates it highly
it was yours jet not he's not as devious enough to
to know this sort of things so innocent pure of heart but
That would be the strat to do it in future.
Yeah, does that mean we've seen your trans monk?
No, no, no, I haven't.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yet.
Yeah, yet.
Waiting for the perfect time to pounce.
Do you have some good ones or even into that?
I feel like I've never heard you talk about trans monks.
I've got a few.
I've got a few ones that I like.
All right.
I sometimes also like making the ones that are like aggressively wrong.
You know?
Yeah.
Well, we know tunnels is a thing of those things.
Yeah.
When they made us, you could do the different shoulders.
I had one where it was just like red on one shoulder.
And then that like the one side was red.
and then blue on the other shoulder.
And there was like red below there.
It just looks like you're ready for the Fourth of July.
It was like a checkered, you know, pattern.
It was good. It was fun.
Amazing. Well, good morning, everyone.
It's an exciting day. We are going to be once again,
unfortunately, not immediately going into myth of Russian.
I know that's been the big question on everybody's mind
this morning. I do see, actually, I could be wrong.
Other than heros.
Or these treasure heros.
Oh, gosh, I got baited.
I was under the impression that we would be going
tunnels into mythic.
Geez, I think they were doing it a little bit this morning.
I know that like Nick and Malarkis and THD at least were doing some keys this morning.
I talked to Impec and Ashaun this morning at breakfast and was like, what's the plan?
Because I wanted to mentally prepare myself for what could possibly happen today of course.
And as it turns out it's heroic one split.
And the mythic plus.
Yep, that sounds like the order of business for today.
We've got a couple more items that we need from Nimrissa for a couple of characters
that we didn't initially think we were going to need any gear on.
We certainly do this boss is interesting
I saw echo ended up pulling numerous a wavecaller like three times
Like right as we were going to bed last night when they ended up pulling it on like 25 player wiped almost immediately
Drop down pulled it on 20 players wiped almost immediately
Pulled it on 15. It seemed like they were checking the scaling wiped almost immediately and then got it out of there
It seems like it was even though the boss was nerfed yesterday either the nerfs hadn't hit the European servers
or the boss is still insane?
Yeah, I saw they had about nine bowls on it from Raider IO and that definitely worries me
because this boss drops myth one out of six loot. Like it is supposed to be on the level of a myth one
out of six boss, right? Like a neck Zolley, which remember consequence came in and one shot.
So if Ekko unable to get it done in, you know, and not even like just get it done, but like
get it close, right? Their best bowl is like 75% after nine bowls. That makes me think that
The tuning on this might still not be reasonable on Mythic, but luckily, it is very reasonable on Normal and Heroic, which are gonna be the difficulties that we will be seeing it for the first 30 minutes or so of today.
T.C. looking like a Sith Lord.
Yeah, he's a...
Does he have his hood up or is that some kind of shadow? I can't tell.
I think that's a hood, yeah.
Okay, we're getting cozy early in the morning.
Yeah.
This is an interesting meta that he has with his hoodie jerseys.
He has his mother sew a zipper into it, which is, I think, genius.
Wow.
I think that is so smart.
So these are the hoodies that don't normally
have the zipper down the middle?
Yeah, they're normally just like a layer of regular hoodies
with the strings.
Yeah, and then he adds the zipper
so that he can maximize his comfort.
That is very cool, yeah.
Yeah, because we know how important being comfortable,
especially on these long tears can be.
It's being comfortable.
Do you have a monster in this one you found out?
Yeah, I've got my M zero ultra is usually the favorite favorite of mine
Yes, I did have one of the strawberry lemonade so earlier this race on a day that they were
We got the restock of the M. Yes, what are the red white blue? Yeah, very yes
The new the new drop that they had recently. Yeah, it was definitely nice
No, I'm zero ultra though. Nothing cares. No, of course not. Yeah, none for you though this morning titles
No, no, no.
You got a long day?
Oh!
I don't have a long day.
I didn't read tonight, though.
Okay.
Ooh, are we excited for that?
Yeah.
I actually don't even know what we're going to necessarily do.
That's good to me, neither.
I have no idea what on earth to do this week with our time.
This week is weird because Mythic is hard, but Mythic seems doable.
But at the same time, we're conflicted because we really want to kill Hero of
attack but we only have four hours and so yeah if we if we would have otherwise
could kill say three mythic bosses or potentially even two mythic bosses is
that worth a heroic cool attack and there's also the kind of worrying
downside of yeah we could pull her a cool attack for four hours and not kill
it like similar to honestly yeah it does happen so you guys are this like weird
limbo kind of we're like you know the heroic progression girls they're
going to be progressing like normal and heroic. The world first girls are doing this, but then
at your guys' level it's like this weird, like, what are we doing with our time type
of situation?
Bullet tech is like a pretty massive undertaking to even be able to kill it off. It probably
requires some of the between 20 to 30 pulls to even be able to kill. On top of the fact
that you have to have a lot of gear.
Yeah. We were doing a little tech last night and definitely quite hard. We killed
it once but we still need to kill it a couple more times.
Is everybody in your group have tier, like four sets and stuff?
We have a lot of two-piece two-piece.
A lot of people who were able to catalyze to two-piece two-piece,
but nowhere near full four-piece or anything like that.
So we don't have any helpers that then help gear us up
in the earlier bosses, and then we have all our mains
with four-piece for the ULTECs like Liquid were doing.
We had the same characters that cleared the first seven
in on ULTEC, but yeah.
I mean, it wasn't too bad.
It does feel strangely hard in a few areas, like there are a couple of overlaps that are just mythic feeling, and then a lot of personal responsibility where
you know, one player doing something wrong can easily wipe the raid, so...
I don't know, it was fun though, it's a fun boss.
Yeah, it's more just like, from a time-constrained perspective, it's atypical for, like...
You know, even the first few bosses on mythic, if you're not a raceful first skill, they normally take like 5-10 pulls,
Now they look like, you know, we saw XD pull Lost Explorers 30 times before killing that and
Although I think that might be an artifact of like like they were doing it before they did heroic last two
They're doing it down a lot of gear sure and they were also, you know, they like were four healing them
They saw up to five
I think most people are gonna find mythic Lost Explorers to be a lot easier than that once you're doing it
somewhat later than this I think
Heroic Bulldog on the other hand if they don't nerf that boss is going to be the hardest heroic end boss of all time
for most guilds that reach it whenever you do reach it, but I also think it's
very likely it'll get nerfed. I think it's pretty likely it'll get nerfed on this
coming reset even. It represents such a departure from where tuning should be,
but I'm not sure. I mean it's hard to say. It's hard to say if it'll happen for sure,
but I think it's pretty likely to, in which case... Yeah, that's one of the
things that over 5 is your guild titles. I'd be thinking like, you know,
Heracle takes good, but it's better next week, because next week is when we
bonus roll it. This week you can't so this week maybe you just go mythic
enemas of this instead. The downside is because we don't use what we need so many
more curious into your stuff. Yeah, missing the set bonuses is tough but you
know getting some myth pieces that you can put your crest into especially
everybody's crafting two-hand is gonna have a lot of extra myth crests if you
don't get any myth items that you will need to deposit those
into. Unsure as to what's gonna go on. I don't know I mean I think you
could defend either decision. We were hoping that we could actually just
Yeah, Mythic Nimbresa would be a cool thing to go and fight.
That seems like a really nice...
That seems like what it's designed to be for, but...
We're exactly the situation.
But it's not what it's tuned to be for.
Let me tell you, it is tuned for something else entirely.
Something inscrutable that I don't understand.
Yeah, I feel like it seemed like a lot of people thought Nimbresa was gonna be like,
Rob, we're just like a pro-way boss.
I mean, it feels like it should either drop better loot or be easier.
I don't know which, but it seems like they've already nerfed it once
and it's still way over the line.
It's supposed to be this thing that helps
AOTC level guilds be able to do something that's a little bit more challenging and more mythic-like
while not having the difficulties of what it takes to feel the 20-player roster. That is what is
designed for that state of Bible is it? Like a stepping stone to mythic rating. Exactly and
you know I guess maybe this is in line with Ultec's heroic difficulty. You know maybe there are
Yeah, just increases across the board. I mean, hey, they're fun, progression's fun.
Question for you two then. Any other things that are particularly surprising to you guys about this tier besides the level of difficulty of these bosses?
For me, the biggest surprise is the quality of the trinkets.
Oh yeah.
Not a good way.
Yeah, there you go.
The amount of trinkets that I...
Yeah, I think like if you look through the dungeon and raid and you just like put all the trinkets on a list
The amount that you could just ignore forever
There's probably like 80% of them or something
It is...
I feel like that's not there
But even the...
Okay, aside from...
There's the guillotine technique and the heart of ulotec for shooting the agility wares
All of the caster trinkets are just like very bad
To the point where...
Like...
For a good example of this
I think that there are still specializations
specializations I believe when Walker Monk is one of those where they're still wearing puzzle box for the season
Yeah, the average power the average power of trinkets if this season is low to the point where I'm pretty sure everybody would have been wearing the
Crucible of erratic energies if they didn't nerf that by 30 percent days of the alans here was on the table for like actual long-term
BIS for a lot of a lot of specializations as well like it
the the trinket power this tier was
It always a was it is incredibly low. Yeah, one of the best cast trinkets actually does come from in Marissa
That's a that's Easton. It's still not that good. Yeah, it's like it's good because because it's great on a curve against the other ones
This year also since it is the top of the morning
I do just want to kind of recap people that might be a little bit newer to the race
So the race world first as a whole under why the leaderboard looks the way it does
These are the guilds that are are in mythic, but aren't necessarily looking for world first
But they are just kind of getting in there early XP got two out of eight like
yesterday but I don't think they're I think they went back to doing splits right
I mean they they I think they went mythic before they did not just her a
cool attack but I think also her a coiled altar was yeah so yeah that meant
that they sequence things such that they you know you can get a couple mythic
bosses but they've still got a lot of heroic yeah they would want to do this
week rather than than miss out on that loot so everybody on that leaderboard
is in some combination of like either just finished all of their work or
or still need to do, say, the Heroic Ghoul attacks,
even though they've done some mythic bosses.
Secret Tech is interesting, though,
because you can defend just going mythic
to get stronger for Heroic Ghoul attack.
Whereas usually it's the other way around,
you know, you go Heroic to get stronger for mythic,
but a Heroic Ghoul attack definitely harder
than the average first few mythic bosses.
Is this normal?
Yeah, they're zoning in on normal in this split,
so I saw the HD was telling me as well.
They do have a couple of normals to do.
The good thing is you could zone out zone right back in with mostly the same characters it looks like
although they've got a few that may need to fill back up a little bit.
They might not even bother though, I'm not sure.
Can I say something?
There are so much crossing of bodies of liquid.
This season.
Is that just me?
Okay, I had to parse that for a second because I was like, okay liquid, that's our thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, I can't just say water because there's also poison.
I see.
Like poison water going to Ulta.
I see.
It's very annoying.
And I can't I can't use path of frost on the boys and obviously it does work here
You can actually you can cross oh, yeah, yeah
The decay raid buff getting some value
I don't even have that on my bars. No time. It's not there. I hit a slash cast path of frost yesterday though
Yeah
It was useful there. Yeah slash cast. I've done done a couple of slash casts
Like you've typed it out.
Yeah, I slashcast my death gate to uh, oh no, and I slashcast rune forging when I'm uh whenever I get a new weapon.
Why have I never thought to do that? I stand there like an idiot for trying to find the rune, because you only do it like once a season, right?
Yeah.
Uh, and I always forget like where exactly it is.
Dude, I've never thought to do that.
Does hippo still slashcast the portals?
I don't know. I, I did slashcast Path of the Golden Tomb during M0 week to get to a tall desert to get to King's Rest.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's smart.
I forgot you could do that I I said over voice. Oh, no
I think I typed it out slash like everybody slash cast path of the golden tomb and then somebody still misspelled the TOOM
Yeah, it's not like they heard it and then they just like wrote it down like yeah, they translated the text
Yeah
Yeah, most are capable of this level of foolishness.
You could hippo your scapegoat on a lot of things.
Yeah, but he wasn't in my MZ.
Oh, okay, okay, all right.
I can't believe, I could not buy that ours in Norfolk, you would spell Tomb TOOOM.
No, I don't think it was one of that either.
Yeah, Tomb, well, bad.
But yeah, that's a little trick.
If you don't have a King's Rest portal yet, the Ataldis R1 does work to get very close.
That is a good idea.
I haven't been back in the game.
Or you could just use the timeways.
You could use the timeways, but that's...
I feel like going to the timeways is like, uh, I don't know, it just feels like you're
gonna get judged for going there, you know?
Do you ever use your death gate to get places?
No.
No?
Because it goes to Ackerson Legion, right?
You can go to...
There's a dollar-in port there, still, I think.
Okay.
Is it there?
Yeah.
A new dollar-in.
I mean, I have my dollar-in hearthstone if I ever need to go there.
Yeah, but if you don't have a new dollar-in hash on it, you go to death gate,
Then you go to dollar in then you go to Orgammar then you could use the portals there that's good. That if you ever need
Just you know just to help you out in case you yeah, my DK's alliance now
So I can't do that. I have you know if you don't ever want to like get
If you were waiting to get someone somewhere you can just pretend that you're super lost by starting that you know
Yeah, yeah cycle events. Yeah, sorry guys. What's going on?
Founded like sir Mara somewhere
I'm good to see.
Yeah.
Now, my DK is culturin' now, though, so it's so that I can do a little maneuver called
the out and in, which is when you haymaker the mob away and then you grip it back.
Oh!
Yeah.
Oh.
Interesting.
Yeah.
It's good tech.
Yeah.
Doronos, I've been toying with the idea of learning how to tank.
What do you think of that?
Yeah, it's a good idea.
Blood death night?
I think here's the thing.
Even if you don't tank, playing it for a little bit, even if you realize you
don't like it and you don't want to, we'll teach you things that make you a better DPS player as well.
I will say, I did a zero to hero tank challenge in the last season of War Within, it made me more
spiteful. It might do that as well. More like whenever I'm doing Mythic Plus as a tank, I am
trying 10 times harder than anybody else in my group and the four people that are in my group
exist only to grief me it felt like genuinely it was like I'm working so
hard and they're there just to troll me. Were they viewers? Huh? Were they viewers?
No, no, no, no. Were they actually griefing you? Yeah, that was the point the
challenge was like that it was supposed to be not people affiliated.
Because you have that thing on your screen that covers the queue, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I think whatever you tank with your friends, you know, it's more of a
shared experience, right? Because tanking is inherently selfless, right?
You're not right. You're not taking cuz it's fun. You're taking because somebody needs to think typically yeah
There are a few people that like to tank but mostly people are doing it because you need tanks
Dreadnest will tell you that he likes a tank
But he was trying to convince his guilt to let him play arms warrior last night
You know what let him lie to you
He was dude, I would play arms warrior and I'd have a lot more fun. It's true. It's true
I mean look at arms this year. Oh my goodness. I'm just I feel like Squidward just looking out the window
I feel like healing is the same way to the og draft is coming back. Yeah arms were it was what I played back in
In Legion for the first first like six months of it. It's a good time. I
Sure fury or juggernaut stacks. Yeah, I swaps to fury during night hold
But not for a while. I say I was stubborn. I stuck with arms past when I would now if I was going back in time
Fury was unbelievable that night hold back. Yeah, I was op. Yeah, I didn't get drafted souls for so long
I still remember it
Never I never got that drink it until like mythic process progression or something, which was quite like
Herotrapsis holes. Yeah, I couldn't get her. I couldn't get my hands on her like or normal one
I was sitting there with the and plus drink it's off. Go Dan, right? Yeah, I thought the cool day
Cool Dan drop that and and the whisper straight kid. Yeah. Yeah, and then the
Alistar was converging some fades
So I need to tell you guys about a movement that's happening by the way
We and the viewers have decided this so we're gonna be unionizing. Okay. Okay. Now hear me out
We're kind of tired of this of this but yeah, we need to send the message to team liquid and all the other guilds
But this this is unethical. Yeah, this needs to stop. Yeah, and then we're not gonna take it
Yeah, because we want to be entertained and watch the myth of correction. That's right
What do you guys think about that cause how much money you have?
I have some gold and a few coins that I haven't sold yet.
Cash?
I don't know.
I'm going to have to check my wallet.
We're packing more right now.
Where all our investments are tied up, VC money is in.
Do you have the ability to fundraise VC money?
Are you guys union busting right now?
No, no, no.
I was just saying because I think I have an idea but it would probably cost a couple
of million dollars for us to end splits.
What is it?
So you guys are for the cause?
Can you buy the Racial World first of course?
Can you buy World first?
Yes?
Okay.
All you have to do is sponsor both Liquid and Echo, the guild, and then create the Racial
World first event, and then Dratnos, the Arbiter of Terms, will write up a $3 million prize
pool, $2 million to the winner, $1 million to the loser.
Okay.
Right.
And then that effectively ends splits.
Yes.
determine how many splits are printed yeah we could just do like hey everybody
gets to do five characters or something right like okay a number like that five
characters I think was the number back in like shadow lens and everybody everybody
was okay with that okay back in the day well I'm glad you guys are for the cause
because it is really getting out of hand I honestly I feel like Gord as in I'm
like like I'm not being considered as a fan of the race to world first and we
really have to send them in okay so this is getting out yeah yes here's the
There's a union within Liquid Guild that is, you know, the players unionized to keep themselves from doing too many characters.
Yeah.
And they also do not want to do this many splits, but what can you do?
Absolutely.
Well, you know, there's so many items, there's so much difficulty in the heroic cool attacks, and then so late in the reset.
It doesn't have to be like that. There is another way.
Yeah, an interesting question that I would have mostly for blizzard, but like it's just kind of a
Hypothetical here if race roll first skills just across the board did less bliss
Do you think that the raid would be tuned to be slightly easier?
because
It's tuned in a way that like it's assumed that echo and liquid are doing yeah
Like right now in particular like the mythic tuning of bosses six through eight or whatever. Yes
It's definitely very aimed at where the race is and it you know
They adjust it during the race.
There's live tuning that you'll get.
They've already done some live tuning to Mythic Ulitec
and Mythic Oil Dalter.
Yeah, if you slash-target a boss,
which those ones aren't slash-targeted yet,
but the ones that are,
you can suddenly see their health values
will have changed from one day to another
if they're one of the bosses that hasn't been pulled yet.
This is a very common thing.
It's definitely, I think most people will think
that that tuning is aimed at the race world first,
and Blizzard's basically confirmed that as well
for the later bosses.
But yeah, I don't know like if if liquid and echo weren't willing to do splits would the tuning be different
Yes on the mythic bosses, but dude
I feel like this year would be so weird if they had plans to do no splits like
Because I don't think no splits are ever on the table. Yeah, our fewer splits right eight. I don't know
I just I feel like you would run into the same problems with fewer splits
Then then the ones that have caused liquid and echo to do what they're doing now
Sure, and you would just have even less to do. It's more just like would you would you receive a similar product right for
Not so I think when you talk about like the
Race for world first tuning that is dependent on splits. I don't think we've pulled any of the bosses yet that do that
I don't think anything is different for a race world first unit
I think that it's like late mythic bosses are the ones that are tuned for the race world first ever
And we haven't seen anywhere close to a late mythic boss yet. I will say I also think that echo
It gets worse for them if they strike a deal about character splits, right?
Like I think because I think that they only for only them you think I think it's worse for them than it is for liquid
specifically because I believe that they okay
I'm not a hundred percent sure that this is true
But they at least believe that they get an advantage by seeing what liquid does in regards to splits
And then they also make their own decisions in regards to their own splits, right?
They got kind of the best between their ideas and liquid ideas, right?
They can always be like, oh, that is better.
Okay, we'll do that.
But I think also they tend to be very efficient with their splits, right?
Like, you look back over the years, it's often like, okay,
Echo were able to do in 24 hours what Liquid took 28 to do.
Or they were able to have helpers do something that this year, for instance,
I think they had helpers in their Heroic Coil altars, which was something.
Well, they were also doing 10 mains, 20 helpers for a lot of their heroics.
Exactly more helpers for so they you know if they can get an efficiency advantage on splits then it makes sense that
More splits is you know less splits would be bad for them. Yeah
And I mean there's been a couple of tiers where they have just out split the competition
Yeah, and they've made one off of that not for a while right now
We're actually point to a tier that the splits were decisive
But it has been a while
But I think that there were a couple of tiers especially in Shadowlands
I think saying to man sepulcher. We're kind of like that where I go had really good plans and they're so what to do with like
Yeah, and BFA some great examples of you know battle of Zahra lore for instance a huge gear advantage generated. Yeah
The chat is having an argument about major defenses right now. They're not majors. No. Well, they're defense
I don't think that we should listen to what majors have to say about their own personal defenses. I tend to agree
They have they're incredibly biased. I think you're the most biased
of players. The thing about mages as well is they're so like smart about like
setting a consistent public stance it's like every mage is they're all in the
mage discord and they all like listen to what the High Council of mages says and
they all like say the same thing. You know what you're absolutely right. They're
like the orange cats of classes. Do you think they share a brain cell and that's
why they're so cohesive? Just a monolith of people. It's many brain cells.
It's not just a singleton like the ICSE like like like the Pluribus. Yeah, exactly
Is that mage players do not know what the strength of their classes relative to other classes first and foremost
They've never logged on anything else
Secondly at the beginning of dragon flight
They were literally just whining that they didn't have enough good personal defensive
Blizzard did not add a new personal defensive for them instead just gave the mass barrier they go. Yeah, that's good enough
They didn't even get a personal defense, they just got mass-bearing, they were the most broken class in the game for...
The guy in chat goes, wow, I'm insulted, I'm taking this to the mage discord right now.
It's crazy though, the difference between them and some of the other classes, like rogues for instance.
Oh my god.
The few rogues that are left, they like... mages are always like, oh no, we're so weak, we need buffs and then rogues.
Even when they're not that great, they're like, no, no, no, it's fine, we're good, we're good.
What do you guys think is the most, like, wholesome class discord?
I know this is potentially a touchy subject, and I don't want to get into the individual
dramas, however.
Well, I think-
There's got to be one that has the least amount of-
I think the Demon Hunter one almost got shut down one time for NSFW pics.
Which one is it worth there to you, Demon Hunter Discord for a while?
Yeah.
Yeah.
The popular one almost got shut down for- from Discord, I remember that.
Anybody saying Red Paladins right now is lying to yourself?
That is not-
awesome they're off the list yeah I don't I don't I don't really peruse the
class discords I'm seeing druid shaman muck being said that I feel like the
general hospital just as a discord oh it's just a healer yeah it's where they
all like go to congratulate one another about their forces yeah and it's weird
because there's a lot of healers that you will never see type anything or
hear say anything and you're like okay that person's just they're just shy
or whatever and then if you look at what they type in general also it's like
Completely different person in there. I have a guy by guild who apparently just loves to
Stir the pot in the general hospital
And then people come to my twitch stream and like they are genuinely like praying on this guy's downfall. I'm like
What has he done like actually? What is he done? I've never been into that discord
That's good. I want to be I don't think I want to visit. It sounds like a fun place
I should check it out. There's no tourists left. No tour. Okay. I'm sorry healing. I mean
No, I
I won't be doing that. I've considered tanking. I will never ever heal.
Fair enough, yeah. That sounds horrible. It certainly does, yeah.
Yeah. You can be a special, you know, variety of...
You need to have a different definition of fun.
Yeah, that's not my definition of fun. Plus, anytime I try and play...
My brain is so wired for melee, I think I'm like physically incapable of playing
anything at a range distance, because I always end up right under the boss's
crotch if I'm playing anything ranged.
I'm like, oh, I don't need to be here.
Back it up.
Yeah, it's fun to see the, like, when a melee player swaps a range or the other way around.
Yeah.
When we had a great player swap to melee and they're just always talking about, like,
oh, what's our weapon range, and there's, yeah, like, trying to...
I'm gonna do my Zero Hero.
If you zoomed out.
I'm gonna do my Zero Hero this season on a melee DPS.
Historically, every time I play melee, I always just do this thing where any time
like a mechanic is like happening I walk out of melee range of the box of the
mobs because I'm like I don't get hit by that and I just like grief my uptime
permanent yeah why did I just lose three levels for fun maximizing uptime is
like it's second nature to a melee DPS whereas maximizing the like always
casting thing like pre-positioning I feel like for range as well yeah huge deal
yeah when you see a melee playing range and they just like are running and not
Casting and something please first something get one of those global's gone winter queen says I don't think I've ever met a kind demon hunter
That's they're basically hmm accurate. Okay. I would I think
Demon hunters definitely have a personality type. I don't know if they're unkind though
I feel like they're more like Shaqib coded just kind of a little strange, but not necessarily mean
You disagree
They're looking at each other. It's a pet depends on the demon hunter. Okay
I think uh, okay, okay. I'm sure I think we have some beef with the deal. Oh
I'm sure they I'm sure they exist there
I've just a few I've happened to play with hmm have
Often been you know, what's the demon hunter and pop-tart corn dog? We've got we've got a few hockey. Okay. Okay. He's okay
He's all right. Yeah, well, what do you know for him? Pockerton? I think Chad knows hates you if you're
He wasn't my M zero group
You know I'm trying to remember who it was.
I think it may have been the Demon Hunter.
Yeah, I can't remember.
Alright, looks like, uh, oh man it's another hero I get to know.
It's like, uh, dude, do you remember whatever DK came out and the edgiest people you know?
Yeah, all of them switched to DH.
So, then the subgroup of the DK players, the most edgy, then re-rolled to Demon Hunter
and now that class has been left with, uh...
Okay, the best in the brightest minds. Let's say to my defense. I did play DK. Did you play DK when it first launched?
Yeah, okay. I played it because I was switching to a server and you could start at level 55 and that sounded appealing to me
That's literally the only reason I started playing. It was it was really stuck to it
Like I because at the time I don't even know if you could server transfer if you could I couldn't afford it
So I just that's what I did
Yeah, it was cool back in wrath as well
Yeah, you had like if it was like so customizable, right? You could just like DPS or tank
on any of the three speck yeah yeah all the aura's i remember that what they
called auras the whole of these presences yes um i just did
battlegrounds back then and you would join a battleground it'd be all death
nights and they liked to call you dork nights
um which wasn't very nice i heard my feelings it's okay it came back around
to bully classes whenever they whatever mr pandaria came out everybody said
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No, I'm more like, you know what I'm saying?
He's kind of like, why don't you like come back in and join
the, lovey shack!
No, you're good.
He just said liquid up.
Liquid up.
Yeah.
I did a, did you guys see the video that I did last
year where it was like, looks like a cinnamon roll,
is a cinnamon roll?
Looks like they could kill you.
Could kill you.
Have you never seen that?
You guys don't watch my content.
Of course I watched that.
Yeah.
It was about, it was very funny and I make sure to
like it on my platform.
Don't care if you don't watch my content. Have you have you seen? Oh, yeah, of course my favorite at 20 seconds. Oh my god. That was classic
Okay, have you seen the I still put it to this day? I'm gonna kill myself a bit about the seven roll
It's like that was a viral trend. Yeah, all right, never mind
To be fair to be fair I did to your face titles yesterday say oh you should make this video and you already have
a good long form video titles is if you made a long from video on the history of the streaming
of race world first, you're like, yeah, I did that. I was there with you while you were
scripting it and working on it. It was like your three hour long video, right? Yeah. Yeah.
So I deserve that. I don't deserve that from Jack knows, but well, and yet you get it
anyways, whatever you said it, I was like, I felt so badly because I have literally
watched it, not the whole thing, but I watched the parts up until when I joined.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of that.
No, you know what I got sucked into the other day from of your videos was the
Shadowlands one. Oh, the Sepulchre video? Yeah, that was so good.
I don't know how I'd never seen that. It just like randomly appeared in my
algorithm and I listened to it like a podcast. Part of the Sepulchre video
you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. I brought up the story about
the individual who definitely was not getting piloted to get their reputation for Double
Legendary.
Wait, what is that?
I have not heard of this one.
I'm not going to say names, there was a person who was on the Echo roster who was not going
to have their reputation for the Double Legendary and their character was running around while
nobody was in the room.
Dude, people did that in only things.
They would like, they was very much like rules against that
and they would, they would be able to like level
while they were sleeping.
I mean.
Don't shrug!
Do you know how much I struggled?
I, and people had the gold to just do that.
I find it hard to care.
Personally, they can support the play than anything else.
I mean, it is pretty funny.
They're just like log in
and they'd be like 10 levels higher the next morning.
Uh-oh.
Okay. No, I think we're okay.
We're good.
A lot of them made it to the bubble
but they're gonna kill the boss
before it actually explodes to the bubble.
We're fine. Yeah, if you let those into the bubble, it's very bad. It explodes and you get these berserkers and you get a dot and it's a disaster.
But if it's low enough, you can't ignore.
Yeah, KSB there. A POV, we don't get to see too often on a mage right now. I'm not surprised here.
At the start of the week, we saw him on some DHS, a couple different characters.
But I think how good Arcane looks on the burn, for instance, of ULTEC.
I think KSP hopeful and fired up might all be on the wizards this year
question
What what is the context of the photo that?
Xyro sent last night
Where it was like four Raiders all sitting like this. Oh, yeah, we're just they were all like in the same pose
They were all yeah KSP was in there, right? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, it's a good it's a good pose
Yeah, it was just like there was a time where all four of them simultaneously had their like feet up
Yeah, on their black light chairs right in there. They're D's up. It's a comfy way to sit. It is a black light chair
Absolutely, yeah, I think we're just talking about gamer posture. Yeah. Oh, yeah
The the worst in the building
Respectively is Trill
Yeah
Probably the best while playing the building the worst the worst gamer posture I've ever seen
But I can't even hate because I sit exactly like him with both feet up
Kind of like E, and that note.
Yeah, you have them both like this,
and you're kind of sitting like a shrimp.
Yeah, I usually just feed on the ground gaming.
Or sometimes I like putting them on the feet of the chair.
That's fair.
I'm going to call you out for something weird that you do, though.
Do you know what I'm going to say?
Like scoot under the desk.
You would do that, and then you put your backpack in your lap.
Oh, I love backpack and lap gaming, yeah.
That would be nice.
Do you do that at home or is it like a pillow at home?
Like blanket or something. Yeah, although, you know, this race I haven't I haven't had my backpack with me during the day
So I've just been yeah, I saw you hit it once
Yeah, on day one when I had my had my backpack because that was when I flew in and had to bring all my all my stuff here
Okay. Yeah, we'll have to find you a blanket or yeah, it's a pillow. Yeah. Yeah this summer
I'm not I don't like walking here and back with my backpack once it's hot out
It's not hot. It's pretty it's pretty warm
You know depending on when you're walking
not too bad though yeah so for anybody wondering what the plan is for today I
don't think we need too many nimrises here's drill knees yeah double knee up
yeah I think whatever we were talking about this on the broadcast I asked jet
like would you ever game like that he goes no no no trills built for gaming
I'm built for performance.
I just, I don't know how people, I find it so uncomfortable to sit with my feet on
the ground, like a normal person.
I get like, I get like antsy, is that how, do you sell like that titles?
So like what?
I don't just like this.
Yeah.
Like normal.
Oh, okay.
Most of the time I'll just sit, yeah?
Like normal.
Ugh.
Ugh.
Can't do it.
The way the chair intended.
I know. I have this very nice, you know, ergonomic black light chair and I'm just, I'm just ruining it.
I'm ruining its potential.
No, no, no. It's immune. It's indestructible.
I remember the way that we got on this topic yesterday is because Boomi was like,
I think that the angle of his chair was, uh,
he was, he was very close to getting flat.
Like leaned it back.
Yeah, he was all, he was like really far back.
It's day six of splits.
Yeah.
What, what are you gonna do?
Do you guys remember how Rivens would sit?
Uh...
He was the one...
Okay, so...
Like, on the desk?
He would, yeah.
He would lean his feet on the desk,
and then sometimes he would have a hand through,
like, under his knee,
and, like, this...
kind of...
It looks like that rock climbing move you were trying to do.
Oh, yeah!
No, exactly, yeah!
And then, and then he also found some kind of motorcycle helmet.
I don't know if you guys were there for that, Tier.
He found a motorcycle helmet somewhere in the office.
It was blasting, like, European hard style.
Not talking no Mike. I think that was an airport here. Was it? Yeah because I think they're here for heroic week. Yeah. Yeah, heroic week was
Is something
And hey look we've got a heroic week this time. All right. We would but here we do
This is what everybody wanted. Yeah, right? Yeah, we got a heroic week back guys. Hooray
Surprise heroic week. Yeah, just where we always wanted absolutely
Equally excited to surprise Christmas. That's right
Well, I do have some content if you guys would like to do my segment that I have prepared.
Sure, sure.
Do we feel like we've hit a good point?
I don't even know what you're talking about, Sherry.
I'm so excited.
It looks like they are done with Nemrises, so we can see what they're up to next,
but I think it will be something where your segment will work well.
Exactly.
We'll make sure that there's no gameplay skipped.
Yeah, I think it might be Mythic Blastime.
I'm not sure.
I would like to preface this with, I know that this is extremely shallow, but I've prepared
what I'm calling a girly pop quiz, and we're going to see.
Are you a girly pop?
How much you guys know?
Everybody can be a girly pop.
It's a gender difference term.
How much you guys know?
How do I, what is it?
Oh, F?
I forget how to do it.
It's a function F11.
Oh, geez.
Okay, hold on.
Function?
F11.
Not the F.
Wait, not this.
I don't know what this is.
Cast her pen to the wrong.
She tried to hit the F, but then they...
Where did this go?
Hold on.
She said F and then one and then one again.
Well, okay, so I have a 60% keyboard at home,
so I forgot how to use function.
I forgot how to use a, I forgot, hold on.
Give me a second, just one second, hold on, okay.
H, F, hold on.
Yes.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Yes.
All right, okay, I'm ready.
All right.
I'm gonna start off easy.
All right, so what's the premise here?
Okay.
So what is this?
Huh.
yeah that's a any guess it's an eyelash curler it's an eyelash nice ice okay
alright nice to make them more pronounced I was gonna say yes also does
it like isn't like really bad for you it can be I don't use one because I because
because of that like every once in a while like you like styes and infections
they can if they're not clean yeah yeah not not a clean those super popular I
I think yeah, that's a real mistake.
Yeah, can you put this on metal?
You probably could, yeah.
All right, next one.
What is setting sprays this for?
Yeah, I don't know what this is actually.
You've seen me do it here, in his office.
Is that like, uh, nothing.
Close.
Whenever you get makeup put on you, like foundation,
I think setting spray is used to...
Is like locking it in?
I think so, right?
Yeah, so it locks in your makeup.
Like you'd use like a varnish on some paint or something.
Exactly.
I see.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Look at these guys.
You're so small.
I only knew that because of...
I was thinking like settings for like, oh it could be, you know, if you're writing a
story and you need to just kind of get some background.
Great.
So you just spray the setting off.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Good problems.
Right, yeah.
Then you can put the rest of the plot on.
Yeah, exactly.
We did MBI person in Columbus for a while.
Oh yeah.
And after like, they would do my makeup because I'm the palest person on this
planet.
We're hella, right?
Insanely whitewashed.
Yeah.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Stop look at that hat that's before I was casting it MDI. That's why this is that's why you do it
I won't pay attention. Yeah, right this down right this down. This is good information. No, all right
What is the difference between tights and leggings? It's the
How tight they are?
Exactly like how much they constrict your skin. He's absolutely right. Yeah, you have a guess for this one
I mean I have a guess but I don't need one. He's right. Okay. It's only leggings
Is it that they come from the Ligging region of France?
Otherwise it's just tights and tights are Italian as far as-
Do you want me to explain the difference or should we just leave it that?
Was I right with either of my guesses?
Absolutely not.
The tights go under things and they can sometimes be see-through and they're not necessarily
supposed to be worn as pants whereas leggings can be worn as pants.
But why are tights worn as pants sometimes?
Why are they?
I don't know if you're like in ballet or something.
I see, I see.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm duped a little.
Generally you're not gonna wear those out in public, that would be weird.
Okay, what does this do?
I'm a bad answer. I'm not allowed to say. It's a sponge.
Okay. Is it for removing makeup or adding makeup? Yes. What kind? Do you know? Where would
the makeup? Lush. It could be lush if it was liquid
blush yeah but generally finger makeup nail makeup for chance that'll do you
know no okay okay this is called up this is called a makeup sponge or a beauty
blender okay heard that word before no okay it's for like concealer for the
most part which I know it's gonna yeah it's hidden you need to be time to give
I made none that you did look like you have the word I made up with a good guess true or false bears the villain in obsession
Have you seen obsession? I haven't seen it, but I've seen enough tick-tock and like Twitter stuff of it. That's uh
I'm down to go with
True asterisk, okay where I think you know creators of like an unregulated wish
granting
Stick definitely own some of the responsibility here, too
That's fair. Okay. But of the of the named characters. Yeah. Okay. I'd say yes
Well, I'm gonna copy his answer. Okay. Okay. Good answer. Great answer. We got one. Yes. Oh my god. Okay. What are these called?
Clippy things
I mean, yes, that's under the category, but what are these specifically called?
Yeah
Tendrils, they got like teeth, right? That tendrils is actually kind of in the right direction. Fidget Toys says production
No, no, no, no, not fidget toys.
That could be.
I'm sure people use them as that, no?
I actually fidgeted with them before.
You've probably seen me fidget them many times.
OK, these are called clock lips.
Clock lips.
Clock lips, yes.
Clock lips, yes.
What does she's that girl mean?
If I'm like, oh, oh my gosh, Malia, she's that girl.
Like it's like the funeral equivalent to I am him.
OK.
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's a good compliment.
I see.
Yeah, absolutely.
OK, let's see.
This is going to be tough.
When would you use these in place of normal bobby pins?
Ah, trick question.
I don't use normal bobby pins.
OK, that's a problem.
That's fair enough, fair enough, fair enough.
These are if you have.
Not right, though.
Curly hair.
OK.
Can you imagine if I one shot that?
Can you imagine if that was it?
Well, you're kind of on the right track.
OK.
So look at the texture.
You know, there's like a paddle, right?
So like, if I'm putting these in my hair.
These get a lot of hair, right?
What am I trying to prevent?
it from like flapping the land.
I mean, yes, but also...
If it's like, gonna rain today.
Yeah, so, okay, so let me give an example.
Let me, let me give you, so if I take Bobby,
so I put my hair out of my face, right?
Right.
But I'm like, no, no, I want these instead,
to put out of my face.
Sure.
Why would I opt for these instead?
What is the function of these over just a regular Bobby?
Pulling your hair.
These are gonna make them
so that you're not gonna increase his inner hair
when you clip it out of your face.
That was a tough one.
That was a tough one.
This is a hard one.
No, typically not.
Well, if you ever want to not get dense, you can use these.
I'll get you some.
I don't know if this thing is going
to stop me from getting a dent from my head to that.
It would, you'd be surprised.
Well, maybe not your headset.
OK, that's fine.
This one's going to be tough.
What is this hairstylist technique called?
So if I go to the hairstylist, I'm like, I would like this.
These are like.
What is this called?
Bolly-Och, ombre, highlights, or deco polish?
Bonus question, how much would it cost?
Yes.
All right, I think this is an ombre, but I'm not 100% sure.
I know Belaj and ombre are ways that they
touch the ends of the hair,
to make them a different color than the paint.
You're on the right track.
You're on the right track.
I think I would guess one.
OK.
I want to say one, Balayage.
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
Nice job.
Let's go.
Balayage.
OK, bonus question.
How much would this cost?
Depends on where you are in California.
probably like five dollars that is about right yeah fortunately how much what
how long would it take do you think two hours no for my hair it's like an all-day
event wow but I have really long hair okay your partners that let's get dessert
together and you declined now she's upset at you discuss okay do you want to
play the what part of this relationship do you want to play I could be the
fake girlfriend here like guys I really I really want to go to get dessert you
don't want to get dessert with me you're just gonna tell me to do it by
Well, I sit and eat ice cream in front of you.
Why am I upset?
Actually, yesterday night, I think we had a little bit of this with Kyle Mazza.
Kyle Mazza was like, you guys want to get food?
And we're like, no, I think we're going home.
You could tell he was a little disappointed.
It's disappointing.
Yeah.
All right, let's get dessert together.
I got a cast.
You always do this.
I know, but I just have to work.
Who's going to support our 10 kids?
You never think about what I want.
want. I'm sorry. You're so inconsiderate sometimes. It's all about work. It's all
about raid. It's all about streaming. You're literally raiding seven days a
week. I just want to get dessert. It's not my fault. They made a rule attack this
hard, man. It's not. It's not. That's not on me.
Ooh, tech shmoo attack. Who cares? I am trying to provide for our kids. Can I
pause? Yeah, yeah. Dratnos has said, you can get ice cream. I'll go with you,
but I don't want ice cream myself. You didn't say that. Is that allowed?
That's part of this conversation as well.
That's the scenario.
Is that bad or good if one does that?
That's very bad.
That's bad?
Don't ever do that.
If your partner wants to taste this treat,
you must also be partaking in the Tasty Treat.
OK.
What if I'm watching my figure?
You're not watching anything.
No, what if I'm watching an expand?
OK, yeah.
You just go along with it.
You get the Tasty Treat.
Get the Tasty Treat.
Just get the Tasty Treat if you don't want the Tasty
Are you gonna make yourself a...
They're agreeing with me.
Alright, next one.
Name three ways to take care of your extensions.
Ah, okay.
Do we know what extensions are?
Yeah, it's when you keep the lockout to the next week.
Yeah, exactly.
That's it.
Isn't that gonna happen in old year?
Yeah.
Famously lost the...
Lost the race 12 first back then.
Exactly.
That...
Yeah.
Okay, well, the first way to take care of your extension is you should never, ever
extend your lockout.
No, no.
If you're like a six-hour guild, it can be good to do an extension.
Okay.
As a race 12 first guild, you should never extend your lockout.
But a good way of taking care of your extension is making sure that nobody outside
of your lockout has access to your lockout. I remember in Nerebar Palace there was a guild
that got to her lockout, yoyke, maliciously stolen the soul to her.
Alright, so these are all great points, and I really appreciate this insight, but I am
in fact talking about hair extension. Oh, yes, very different, but honestly easy to
get confused. You have to iron those on to the end of your hair, right? Could do.
There are different methods, but that's kind of one. Yeah, there's the other ones?
Yeah the other ones. The clip-on ones?
Okay. Could be.
Take care of it.
I should have asked how to put them off.
You like put them in like a little plastic bag before you shower maybe?
Okay. But how are you going to wash your hair?
Well you wash the rest of your hair but then your extensions are in a bag.
Okay. Revise them.
One way to take care of your extensions.
Okay alright. We're getting great done on a curve here.
Okay lock in. We can do this one way.
One way. One method.
How you can make them last longer so you don't have to you know get their replace
That's a good idea. Yeah, hey, that's a good trap. I've been doing that actually stay inside most of the day
Very bad for
You bought the extensions to match the color of your hair at that point in time
But if you went out in the sun too much then yeah, your hair would like leech. Oh exactly exactly
Okay. Should I like, I mean, yeah, we'll go with that, but great job.
Okay, yeah, what are the answers?
I mean, so I've actually never had extensions myself, so I did have to research this a little bit,
but no heat. You want to keep like extreme heat off of them because you don't want to fry them.
Yeah, so it's like real hair. A lot of them are real hair.
Yeah. Okay, yeah. No, you're right. Okay. This is actually really annoying, which I didn't know.
You have to completely blow dry them if you take shower because the thumbs are cold.
Well, but if they can get moldy.
If you have them inside a plastic bag, then they won't get wet.
That's true!
If you get like a plastic bag, then they'll tie it, right?
You do that. You might be like a little stinky, but that is a method.
Or some other way of paying.
And then also you have to go in pretty frequently to, because they can grow out and then it can ruin your actual hair, which is bad.
Oh, I see.
I think it's good bald.
That was good. That was a good learning lesson.
One of many ways to go bald.
What does purple shampoo do?
Oh, it's for people who have their hair colored, a different color.
What color?
Um...
That is a good question.
Blonde.
Blonde!
Yes!
Bang!
Yeah, I remember Bart, when he was here and he had his bleach hair, R.I.P. Bart, he rest in peace,
um, borrowed some of my, my, my purple shampoo.
He's like, do you have any purple shampoo?
And I gave him some.
But yeah, it takes the brassiness out of it, cancels it out.
It's fun, because when I was a kid, I liked purple ketchup.
Do you remember when they had the purple ketchup bottles?
I do.
Yeah, so it's just gonna stay on for a second.
They tasted it, well, no, they were cool, though.
Yeah.
So it's much the same concept.
That was really good!
Great job!
I'm really proud of you.
Can you name a brand of purple shampoo?
Bonus question.
I'll give you a hint. My demon hunter.
Spray-tip?
No, that's a dee-tip.
I don't remember you doing this though.
Oh, look Lex.
Truly, Lori.
All right, what does this do?
Hmm, it's for shower?
Yes, what in the shower?
Think of what you're scrubbing.
Well, maybe not you, but...
The only short hair could use this too.
Long hair.
It could be.
It could be long hair.
It could be any length of hair.
Any length of hair.
Yeah.
But like what are you doing exactly with it?
You're untangling your hair with it, right?
No, not quite.
Like, uh...
You might tangle it more, actually.
Oh, okay.
But for a good benefit.
Like getting out the, like any insects or something that have gotten caught in there.
I mean...
Shuffle life, maybe?
Shuffle life, maybe?
You guys are on the right track.
We're on the right track.
You know, crumbs with the...
Yeah, if you could read those in your hair, this would be good for that.
But like, what about it?
Like how would you use this if you had this in the shower?
To do something like that?
What are you scrubbing?
Oh my gosh, like this is so easy.
It's your scalp.
Yeah.
You put shampoo in and you scrub your scalp.
Okay.
What are my hands for this?
Some people think that your nails are damaging.
I see.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't use these.
I think they're very useless.
But, name a professional female athlete.
Serena Williams.
Caitlin Clark.
Perfect.
Oh my gosh.
Brought of applause. Look at these guys. Allies.
Gentlemen, alright. That was fantastic. Alright.
What are these common earshames called?
That's a flathead screwdriver, I think.
Right in the pillow's head, you can see that.
Okay. Okay.
Uh, rectangle?
Yeah. That's a square. They call that a square.
The bottle right where I think they call those the back scratchers.
Ah!
Ha ha ha!
Okay.
Uh...
The half square?
Uh!
Lats?
The quarter pipe?
No.
No.
You guys are really bad at this one.
This one's hard.
This one's really hard, actually.
Do you want me to just tell you?
I don't even know if you'd be able to guess.
Yeah, if they're not guessable.
That's fair.
That's fair.
I think I'm not gonna know.
I don't know if I put it one.
Okay.
So, the top left is square.
Yeah.
I think I'm not gonna know I don't know if I put it one. Okay, so the top left is square
Yeah, the top right would be almond almond. Yeah, I guess that left is is
Coffin or bottom left is that or sorry bottom left is often often. I see all the coffee. Yeah, I can see I can see up in there
Okay, yeah, or I think some people called ballerina. I think it depends and then bottom right is stiletto
If you ever want your partner to get good back scratchy nails ask for stiletto
Yeah, so wait what nails you do it? Let's let's practice
Is that Stiletto?
It's Stiletto!
Good job!
It's a short Stiletto.
Yeah.
Good job.
Half Stiletto, half Stiletto.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Alright.
Name a movie that, do you know what the Bechtel test is?
Yeah.
Oh yes, it's that thing about like, you have two women characters who talk to each other
about something other than a man.
Yes.
Yeah.
Name a movie that passes it.
Yes.
Hmm.
Oh my gosh, Rose.
This one's hard.
Can I name a name that does it?
Yeah.
Apothecary Diaries.
Bang.
I don't know, I don't know, I can't like, in my head, think through the test of any movie.
There's, there's one, I believe there's one in theaters right now, that passes it.
Hmm, Odyssey?
Probably not the Odyssey, because there's only like one Gmail character in that one.
Right? Yeah.
The House of the Dragon, Stevie's show.
What about Spider-Man? I'm watched by-
I think that actually does pass, I think Spider-Man 3 does pass.
I think that's the one that I've talked about.
I'm watched by- I was looking at a list, yeah.
Spoilers.
There you go. Alright.
Nice job. Name a drag queen.
RuPaul. Yes, festival. Yeah, yeah.
Can you name another one that doesn't have a TV show?
But he's the queen of drag.
I mean, okay, alright.
Yeah.
No, that's a good answer.
I know one. Kettles can do one now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You have to do one. You have to come up with one.
My dad did drag for a while, so you can't.
Sure. Yeah.
That was his drag game.
I don't know.
Okay.
That's really sad that you don't have your dad's drag game.
I'm not gonna get it.
They're RuPaul's a good answer.
RuPaul's a good answer. The people are pleased.
RuPaul is the acceptable answer. That is by far the only one I could name.
What is this and where would you find it?
It looks like a coffee maker.
Can I get a zoom in? I can't see what's going on with the bottom part.
Oh, is this the thing at a gas station?
It could be at a gas station.
Is that 20 cents it says?
The tampon?
Yeah, a tampon dispenser maybe?
Yes, it is. Nice job.
with restrooms. Okay. I know what they have to have at these men's restrooms. They could.
They could. All right. You and your partner are going to a wedding and she asked you to
grab her purse. Which purse are you grabbing? This is a wedding. This is a formal event.
Oh, wedding. Yes. Bottom left. Uh, is it for a question that she... It's bottom left
or bottom middle, right? She can't bring a personal wedding. You have to have, like,
a little bag, even a little flesh to a formal event. Yeah. It's a bottom left.
Oh, I thought I would just give it away. Yeah, bottom left. Yeah. I already said that.
You nailed it. Congratulations. All right. In what order do you apply these
products. Lip liner lipstick with gloss. Lip liner sounds first, right? I think it's no,
because I don't think you would put them in order, so I think it's stick liner gloss.
Okay. Stick liner gloss. Yeah, that's my answer. Final answer.
What? Lip liner? It's actually in the order. It is in the order? Guys, it's in that order.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure there are people that do it the other direction, but I mean,
that's actually- Well, okay, you can do it in the other direction than the-
Well, I mean, different to opinion. You could also put different to opinion.
No, no, no. You can also go into Mythic first, but you're gonna end up with a bad product at the end, right?
It's impressive how quickly you were able to argue something that you did though the answer.
Oh my gosh. I agree to disagree. We'll agree to disagree.
That'd be like putting on your shirt before you're underpants. Like, that'd just be weird, you know?
I'll do that sometime.
Okay. Alright.
Uh, name a celebrity makeup brand.
Oh, uh, that guy that got James Charles.
That guy got canceled, right?
Horrible example, but that is true.
Uh, is there like, savage?
Actually, I don't...
Close?
I think Selena Gomez also has like the...
Yes, but what's it called?
Oh, I don't know.
What?
You were close to Kylie Jenner's lip make-up brand is called Kylie Jenner, so you can count that.
Oh, that's good.
Jenner's?
I had Savage, was that one?
Savage Fenty.
Fenty, yeah.
Savage Fenty, or Savage I think is her clothing brand.
Who was that?
Fenty's a good friend.
Rihanna, right?
Rihanna, right?
Yeah, that's a good one.
Oh, this is Cams, because I did this originally for Cams, but...
He can answer this one, too.
I need to know Cams' wife's coffee order?
No, I don't know. Name a woman in your life's coffee order.
What's your mom's coffee order?
Ice latte with almond milk and lavender.
Perfect.
My mom likes chai tea lattes.
There you go. Starbucks.
All right. And that's the end.
Wow. Well done. Well done, cardboard boy.
Oh, no. That's a good one.
That was so good. You're great.
Yeah. You're proud of me.
Great job.
How many of these did you get right? Several.
You did really well. You guys did really well.
Because I originally, so when I originally made this segment,
the people that were going to be on with me were Cam's and Atlas,
who are very good.
They would have got 100 percent of it.
Like Atlas was explaining to me like the meta of a waterline makeup.
And I was like, oh, I better make these really hard.
So I made them harder on purpose.
And you guys, you guys did great.
See, they, I think they did.
They tuned with the world first, as per usual.
As per usual here.
Absolutely. Yeah.
These developers, they really got to get on with it.
Yeah, I ever tuned it.
I ever tuned it. I'm sorry.
But if you guys are just at tuning in, don't worry there.
They're they're they're doing they're doing I don't even do what's I've seen
Silver I don't know what's happening. So if you're upset that there's no gameplay
There's there's actually no gameplay
So I made a little I made a little fun clip quiz and I hope you guys had fun
Should I should I ask the other casting block this one? I think you need a new quiz a new quiz
You guys can test me about boy stuff
If you want, I don't know what would be a boy question. What comes up? How many times per week you have to take a shower?
That's right
Do you have another question?
Your girlfriend comes up to you and says that she's unhappy with how many times a week
you're raiding.
How do you diffuse the situation?
Okay, okay, but I was going to do one of those questions.
Your girlfriend really wants to spend time with you, but you got invited to a last-minute
raid spot and they're going to guarantee you the amount.
What do you do?
But I didn't want to upset anyone.
Yeah, that one's tough.
Because the obvious answer is you play with Warcraft.
Right, yeah.
Gotta get your priorities straight.
It's good.
It's good.
Hold it up.
We'll do the puppy here.
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We've also looked at wow housing and for $250
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Yeah, we have a lot of cool things on there.
One that I got to dodge yesterday
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Oh, not wanted to be on that castership.
That's good.
I got some, I may have a new sub alert due to that block.
Do you?
Shout out Franck for putting that on the wheel.
What, which, which audio bites?
I think there was a, there was a Xyronic one
that was very charitable.
Oh, I'm excited.
Well, speaking of charitable,
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slash donate. Okay, so your girlfriend walks up to you and asks you if you'd still love her if
she was a worm. What do you say? There's no way. You say yes. Why is why is this cat being bullied?
This is horrible. Yeah, we've got Crissana in Fort Dumb. Oh, no, he was trapped.
Chris on it looks upset. No, no, this is exactly where Christina wanted to be. Hmm. Does your cat like to sit in boxes? No
He's a little bit big for boxes. It's something there's something about a 20 pound cat where he
Into many things. Is he that big now?
Fortunately enough for me. Yes. He is he fat or is he just a big boy bit of both bit of both. Okay
You know, no, this looks like a pretty big box
So I know slip it has 20 pounds. Oh Vinny Vinny is the name of the cat. So Vinny is a force. Yeah. Okay. I see
Wow, what a sweetie. I think we've seen this kitty before now. It's it's progressed now Vinny has their own
Box has a fort. Yes a fort. In fact, yes pretty impressive
I like to take boxes like that and put treats and kind of hide them and then it
It's some it's an enrichment time. I love cats. This is the this is the cat classic
You get a box a box for you as a box for them exactly. Yeah, no need to throw that away
Now I have a cat that one of them will be line any box if it gets put on the ground immediately
Even if there's like something fun in the box for the cat
It'll it'll circumvent that and go show for the box. Yeah, absolutely every single time. Yeah, it's really sweet
Yeah, I've seen some like short form video of
Like a you got a bag or something and you have like a camera in the bottom
And it's like seeing how long it takes for the cats to like invest.
Oh, my gosh, like it gets on the ground.
And then just like five seconds later, you start saying like the nose coming in.
I like when people do that with their boyfriends.
Seeing along takes my nosy boyfriend like this.
And they're like, oh, there's a camera.
All right, here's another kitty.
This is Artemis.
It's time for a nap.
Oh, my goodness.
Artemis is siding something over there.
Yeah, or like half falling asleep.
I think, yeah, I think entering, entering rest mode.
Yeah, very sweet.
It's an 18 hour a day experience for a cat.
What a life.
What a life indeed.
It kind of looks like a brown cat.
You know, brown cats are super rare.
I didn't know that.
I guess I sort of know that
and that I don't see very many of them.
How many cats do you see normally?
A few.
There's a, in my neighborhood,
there's like a block with a bunch of cats on it.
I walk by sometimes.
Oh, okay.
And there's no brown cats there though.
There's like, there's some black cats,
some like white and orangey ones.
Have you met them?
No.
You should start.
I don't know.
Is that good?
That's good?
Yeah, that's good for them.
Well, because they're not stray cats.
I think they're like, they live there.
Well, you're just helping out.
Yeah, OK.
But I feel like you shouldn't feed other people's animals
without knowing.
Well, they were outside.
That's fair point.
Fair point.
Touche?
Probably eating birds.
All right.
We've got to.
Herbie got me, though.
Who's Theo donated $10 for Aya to please explain what
to do in that dessert question I'm staring at.
What dessert question?
The one for the best.
If your girlfriend or wife says,
let's go get a tasty treat, you just say yes,
and you also get yourself a tasty treat.
But what if you go on one?
You do it anyways.
You're basically calling her gluttonous
if you don't get it.
No, I didn't call her anything.
You're inferring it.
You're in heavily inferring it.
Yes.
So that's my advice to you.
Just get the tasty treat.
Or at least split a tasty treat.
Okay, but what if I really don't want it?
You do, that's when you learn the techniques of like,
when she's not looking, you just like dump some on the floor.
Like the, the, the, the, the, the, the off.
Just find something that you, are you not a team?
This is why you get a potted plant, right?
And then you can just like, dump some ice cream in there.
Dump all your tasie tooth in there?
Yeah.
Oh no, personally, I would never dump ice cream
in anything, ice cream is meant to be consumed by me.
But like,
Okay, so this sounds like something you're not
going to run into if you enjoy ice cream.
Well, yeah, I'm just, this is not a problem for me.
Yeah.
I'm just hypothetical here.
I think, I think, you know,
Right. I'm a lover of ice cream. There you go. Yeah, why are we asking these hypothetical lessons?
You brought it up actually. I should cost you have brought it up. The real answer to why we're
asking this is it is day six of split. Yeah, I'm not we're now into the portion of the broadcast
where I'm we're giving relationship advice. Yes, we have exhausted all other topics. Yeah,
So now I'm asking boys about makeup. That's right. It's great
But they are really not not doing much in the moment
Oh, do you have them on our other screen and right here now?
Yeah, now we're checking in frequently and yeah, Dreadnose. We are zoning in heroic first boss. Wow
Goodness speaking of yeah speaking of tasty treats. So mind if I do watch some more heroic splits
That's right heroic next Zolly. It looks like it's only the first boss as well
Well, at least from the group finder name, it makes me think they're just Slammin' boss
one here.
Question.
Mm-hmm.
Somebody says they need to give Aya the urinal stall selection quiz.
Ah, yeah, okay.
What is this?
I mean, if you go to urinal, okay, say you have five in order, one, two, three, four,
and five.
Okay.
And you walk in and four is taken.
Okay.
Where do you go?
One.
One's okay.
Yeah, two's also okay.
Either of those will work in this spot.
Yeah.
through five and they're at four? What do you do if somebody's at two and at four? Yeah.
Can you just go into the actual toilets? No. At that point? Do you wait? Yeah. Waiting
is the right inch there. Oh my gosh. Oh, then you go straight in the middle. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah. Okay. So is it like, is it completely on the table to go right next to each other?
Obviously, if there's room, you go in the middle, but like what if someone's in
the middle. Do you go and wait? You actually wait. Yes. Yeah. I mean, I get. It depends a bit on the context. Yeah. You know, if it's a space where it's like, it's a sporting event. Yeah. 700 people. Yeah. Then you have lower standard. It also depends because there's some bathrooms that actually have like that. If they have a little divider, then yeah, then it's allowed. Okay. Why do they not all have dividers? Why do not what like, why would that just not be a thing automatically? Because you're in a sports arena where there's 20. Yeah. You're at the airport where there are 20 year knows in a row. But you could fit a divider in there, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
They did it during COVID, everywhere.
Good, but they chose not to.
I don't know, artistic interpretation maybe.
All right. My favorite thing about people when they come to this country,
and then they complain about, I mean,
I don't disagree the bathroom stalls and how many gaps are between the doors.
Yeah. Like a four inch wide gap.
That's never fun. You can just see people in there.
Yeah.
And they're like, what do you do?
It's like, you just don't make eye contact.
I know that someone's in there, but you don't stare.
You can potentially make eye contact.
That's the answer. Yeah. No, you just peeked through the hell of Johnny here.
What is the quote from the shining?
OK, well, that's interesting.
That seems that seems obvious.
So that was easy. Being a man is easy.
Yeah, please. Come on. Give me a next one.
Next question. I got this.
Yes, if you can call some good ones, Chad.
Well, we form up for.
Yeah. Heroic split number seven hundred.
Mm hmm.
Her fired up fired up on an evoker.
That's how you can tell we're scraping the bottom of the barrel here.
Yeah.
Speaking of scraping the bottle of the barrel,
I don't know if this is happening simultaneously
or it'll happen later today.
I know that they were asking people for mail stacks
and just different armor stacks for keys, for 50,000 gold.
So keep an eye on the group finder for keys,
because I know that they need people for those as well.
What they were doing some of as well was like AFK keys
where you get four helpers together to run the key
while the liquidator is on an extra account
and there's logged out there
or dead at the start of the instance.
You run the key get paid after if you're you know confident and being able to have four people do a dungeon
Can be a good way to get them. Okay. Here's here's one of where you what which one do you use look in the bottom left of the
Oh, yeah, we've got a B C and D. Well, I would wait. Let's assume assuming waiting is not an option
Yeah, where's the door?
D there's an answer to this
Yeah
It's A or D, but I prefer D in this spot.
Because D, you'd have to walk behind a bunch of people.
Yeah, but D is like there's not a door right behind you.
Oh, okay.
I would go B.
And you can angle towards the wall.
I see.
A is also acceptable here.
Okay.
B and C are psychotic.
Extremely awful.
I can't go to university.
That's it.
Okay.
That makes sense.
I should have shoulders against two people.
I've learned that the, I don't know if this is true anymore, but they did an episode of
Mythbusters a long time ago where they found out that the first stall in a bathroom has
the least amount of germs, and now I always do that.
Interesting.
But I wonder if that episode had an effect.
I doubt it.
I doubt enough people have seen that.
You don't think so?
Okay.
Population behaviors.
Well, now I just, I just spilled the secrets and now I just ruined.
Yeah.
Now that all the rest of our first year is here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Everybody who's locked in and 100% listening to the inane babble that we've been
putting out for the past two days.
Yeah, first we're talking about makeup, now we're talking about bath.
That was a terrible math.
It's like that scene from the office where they were like trying to ask Kevin the math
or whatever, he couldn't do it and then they turned it into gambling terms and he was
able to immediately...
Wait, what is this about?
It was in the office, it was like poker terms, because he was like a good poker player.
Oh, okay, okay.
Yeah, I remember that.
Yeah.
We all have the ability to do math and stuff, you just have to put it in the
right frame.
What death is WoW sucking into? I don't know if it's WoW has sunk into a death. It's just,
you know, it's the race in particular. And it's not it's just because the last two tiers
have been so weird. Like, last year we did myth exhibits because it was too easy and
this year we're doing it because it's too hard. Yeah, that's going to be a weird
one. Yeah, but, you know, right now we're
quizzing me on the dude things. Got any other good ones from chat that you
I'm seeing something that I know what they're referring to, and I'm not going to bring those
up.
What's the appropriate action to take when handling a cordless drill?
First of all, I don't like that that has a gender assignment.
Second of all, I don't know if you know the answer to this because I have no idea.
What would be the appropriate action to take when handling a cordless drill?
I don't understand the question, but I also suspect if I did I wouldn't answer oh
Oh, oh, it's like there. Oh, it's a funny one. Okay. It's like
Yeah, we're going production. Okay. Oh gotta rev it up first
That's nice
All right, okay. I thought we were like, you know, what's the safety procedure? Oh first make sure that it's you know
It's locked and you're not uh, yeah
Yeah, make sure the safety is on and also that it's fully charged and that your drill bit is properly screwed in and then you have the right size
I know it sounds smart. Yes
Yeah, same with the tongues, right? Oh, yeah, you gotta click click. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I also feel like that's not gendered though
That's just yeah. Yeah, that's a universal thing. That's a human experience. Yeah
Yeah. Yeah.
Well, of course, you have a pink drill, then, you know.
Right. Of course.
Yeah. Plus the markup, that would be on the pink drill.
Yeah.
I do, I have to install shelves at some point when I get back.
Yeah, I have too many clothes in my closet.
I got some, like, tubs, but extra stuff to do.
See, like, any other person said that, I would think they were joking.
Dude, I have, like, just a tub full of hoodies.
Do you have a bed frame?
Yeah, a bed frame.
Where's your mattress on the floor?
No, I have a bed frame.
Okay.
Yeah.
Do you have sheets?
Yeah.
You don't have an exposed mattress?
That is a reasonable question, Tuttle.
If he's got a bed frame, surely he has sheets.
Not only do I have sheets.
I have two different pairs of sheets.
Oh!
And then you can have one.
You can wash one and just go put the other straight.
Oh!
Okay, that's a shut.
Well, you have to do it twice a year.
Of course.
You can say it.
Okay.
Follow-up question.
Yeah.
Do you have a hand towel in your bathroom?
Any towel can be a hand towel.
Oh, Jesus.
If you put your hands on it, it's fine.
Come on.
Trick question.
You're not going to catch me with these amateur hour
trick questions.
Sometimes you've got to put the mattress on the floor.
No sheets.
It's like, that's insane, like, yeah.
There's levels.
Teddles, do you have a hand towel in your bathroom?
I do.
Do you have a trash can in your bathroom?
Yeah.
Perfect.
W.
The hand towel, there could be an argument
that it's not sufficient enough to be a hand towel,
but it's on the towel rack and I use it as a hand towel.
Yeah, no, I think that's fair.
It's a bit small, but that's where hand towels,
they can be on your size as long as your hands.
Again, it's maybe supposed to be a little bit bigger,
but it's okay.
How often do you wash your towel?
Oh, God, you're pausing.
He's thinking.
You have to do the bath.
Another trick question.
You don't have to.
Okay.
Okay.
Are you one of the people that waits
until it starts to smell?
Well, it doesn't start to smell.
It's okay if it smells, because it's doing its job getting the smells off of you.
Another trick question.
Okay.
Yeah, now think about it.
If you think about what a towel does, right?
It's a dry object that takes the water off of you.
But why is the water smelling dry?
Yeah, it's like soapy water.
Are you not fully rinsing?
Are you a British dish?
Every time you use a towel, you are washing it, if you think about it.
It's like the same concept of, you don't actually have to use body wash either because gravity
gets the shampoo off of your hair.
So that's right.
If you buy an all-in-one shampoo, it just gets the job done across your entire body.
Exactly.
This is perfect logic.
Man, okay.
All right.
Follow up question.
Yep.
Let's talk about skincare routine.
Okay.
Do you have one?
Don't go outside.
Honestly?
Not bad.
The sun will get you.
So, like in the morning, what's your routine to get ready?
Well, wake up, come here with a hand comb.
Okay.
Wake up, brush my teeth, hold on to bed.
Okay.
Try to remember if I left my clothes by my bed or by my computer.
Okay.
Do you have a chair?
What?
To roll out of bed?
Oh, would you like to put the clothes on?
Yeah, clothes on.
No, no, no.
That's good tech, though.
That is good tech.
Yeah, I got one of those.
That's good tech.
Do you wash your face at all?
No.
Do you rinse your face?
Well, yeah, I get some water on it.
Whatever I have.
I usually don't have a shower in the morning.
OK.
OK.
Do you do anything to your face in the shower?
I mean, it gets water on it.
OK.
OK.
So that's your skin routine.
You just water.
Yeah.
Sometimes.
That happens to go on to your face
when you're taking a shower.
I mean, look, water behaves pretty consistently.
If there's water near your face
and it gets on your skin, it happens to get on your skin.
That's your skin routine.
It usually does.
OK.
I'm shocked at, like, how good your skin looks for how
reticulous that is.
I hate that so much.
Well, have you considered that maybe you're getting,
you're susceptible to propaganda by big marketing?
I am, yeah.
You're susceptible to marketing by big soap.
I certainly am.
Big skincare?
Yeah.
That's right.
Skincare routines are made up.
I mean, I feel like a lot of them are breakfast.
I mean, they're selling retinoid at like 12-year-olds
now, so that's definitely, you're on the right track
there, yeah, exactly.
Exactly. Okay. Titles, what is your skin care routine?
Um, please don't say water again.
Water is a significant part of my skin care routine.
All right. I'm going to get Atlas over here.
He has an actual skin care routine. I was shocked.
You guys don't know what this is, but he double cleanses and then moisturizes.
Wow. I know. Incredible.
You know what that just means?
What's that? He's susceptible to marketing.
Yeah, I for one am a free thinker he is not a mean to propaganda. Exactly. Man.
All right, well, first one of the day here. I mean of this one. Yeah, first heroic first boss of the
day. Heroic first boss of the day. Extra characters, I think getting deployed here because yeah, fired
up on that evoker. I don't know for sure. I don't know if this is one of his 14 or not.
Yeah.
Mostly mages.
If it wasn't, would he just be doing this to feed here to some people?
Yeah, this is just an unsafe bucket character.
Yeah.
Okay.
Are we going to see any spinning in the stuff in the middle?
Maybe.
That was fun.
Yeah, so the progression is, days one through three of splits you're locked in, right?
Yeah.
Day four and five of splits, we saw people starting to go a little crazy, going into
like the middle of this well to do extra healing.
It's like a lazy river situation, it was exciting.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was really funny.
you just are no you're just there people here executing the actions why do
they have 25 people um yeah another good question titles I'm not sure are they
all liquid no I don't think so there's helpers in here for sure okay maybe
do tomas raid frames just not show group six no because they're fired up as
well fired up over here okay yeah wait no fired up sir right below his
camera there's another row but that would be five by five right no that's six
yeah oh yeah here's here's look at trills baby there are six groups yeah
that 25 would be strange very strange yeah to what yeah 30 is 30 is the number
that we will see almost exclusively in heroic yeah oh my god this is the only
non-ellis mere UI user yeah trill the last holdout of base UI that's a
right qualified for blizzcon they had a rough season oh yeah that's a shame it
is how did I go yeah good liquid liquid team came second into the into the
finals yeah into blizzcon there's a dignitas as well yeah dignitas do w
e-sports orgs yeah the party while echo echoes players a lot of them on
mandatory hammers up yeah I think I've got our team less of in jails I'm sorry
That's that's how the military calls the team little bit. Let's have you girls don't they have a like a
Facility where they were watch partying somewhere in Paris. Yeah, they were playing from there
They weren't necessarily watch party. I think they were watch parties there. Yeah, I remember I would tune in yeah
Because they have their co-streaming it for sure. Yeah
Yeah, very cool the team underperform pretty much everybody's expectations, but yeah
You know it goes to speak about how good they are that underperforming is still qualifying to blizzcon. Yeah, I
Think that they could have come this have they had a different draw. It is possible. Yeah
Yeah, we had there the top five teams were all incredibly competitive and it basically just came down to
Like the smallest of yeah a couple like clutch. Yeah gameplay moments
It's gonna be really exciting this time though, because it's like it's gonna be MDI
I think on all the new dungeons, but like the patch just came out and also a lot of the
People busy with race to world first. Yeah, a lot of like innovation and stuff in a very short period of time. Yeah, that's exciting
Yeah, so the teams they're basically not going to have other teams meta read
Which I think is gonna be a really big deal and the fact that they're all gonna be playing on like what is essentially a new patch
Kind of like you described
Where they have to run their own routes
I think that this actually might give big lucky the top Chinese team
a considerable advantage considering the fact that the other three competitor
teams have racial first competitors who were locked away.
Exactly, yeah, like there's a liquid MDI team that is very unhappy that the race is not going to be a quick one this time around, right?
So they can't just get to bootcamping right away.
We're talking about the MDI right now and Yipz is walking by, just give us a big double thumbs up.
Oh, yeah, he's excited about it, of course.
Yeah, the liquid people who are here are going to be staying after the race as well and just bootcamping for a couple days.
Get ready. Yeah, so they probably want this to wrap up real exactly. Yeah, so same with the ones in echo
How many
What's the crossover for echo because some of them are also in other teams, right mandatory has all five of their members are in echo
Yeah liquid obviously all five of their members are in liquid
Dignitas has yardie who is in liquid. I don't believe dignitas has any
Verb is an extra. I heard facts. Okay. He's just joined echo. Okay. Yeah, heart checks to just join
I think verb is also an echo, right? Okay. Yeah. So they, Dignitas has both.
So David just really wants it to be a close race.
They do not want it to be one team playing for five days after the other.
And just not able to practice still. Yeah.
Yeah. Cause verb was in method for a little bit of the now he's in echo.
Yeah. It's always interesting when you get a patch and then a really big
competition and yeah, after the patch and there's not really a
I think it's more exciting though to like, I agree.
You get to see stuff, but rather than like, if it's like two months in and it's just like everybody's on the same everything.
Yeah. I mean, the problem that we have with AWC is at least is like a team that might be good within a certain meta.
The meta might not be good in the next meta, and then they just get absolutely crushed and you're like, okay, that was unfortunate.
It's something whenever you're qualifying for something that only played on a different patch than the one you qualified for it in.
I know a lot of esports have that problem like League of Legends has had the bot lane
mages and then if balance changes that, then everybody who is good at that is the ones
that made it to competitions.
Yeah, I don't know, it's the way that esports works though.
Yeah, exciting, fast-moving, patch landscape.
I feel like it's pretty infrequent that, wow, especially super competitive tournaments
in PvE are played so early on in the patch.
Yeah.
was going to be I rather I like it though I think it's I think it's fun it's just I
don't like it when it's like during the race oh yeah then it's just dude I wish
they're playing both can't but you know having a couple having a month where
there's like a bunch of stuff and then you know a couple months off good cadence
for me I wish like we had like a one weekend tgp style event off where
teams could not practice on the tournament realm so they had to just like
make their characters they show up whatever comp they believe is best
Especially the earlier on in the season is preferred because then you'll have every team running different routes
And I think that that would be really cool. And they just like one character per player type thing
You're thinking not like I don't know about one character per player, but more just like they they qualify through live
Yep, and then there's no practicing on the tournament realm. You can only just like set up your characters, right?
Okay. Yeah, the dungeons are closed though. Yeah, the dungeons are closed. I'd be cool
That would be cool, but then you can play as many characters you want, but
Togo taking a look at all his characters on that account.
And then it's like a one-weekend thing, right?
So it's like you qualify and it's just into the finals.
Look at how many bosses he's saved to across this account.
That is disgusting.
So many different lockouts to make clear.
While most people only have 14 characters, you have still 24 characters.
Yeah, that's the life of the tank because you don't know.
You don't know which ones you're going to use.
And you want to be able to have like six of each.
So you can use any of them and you know what if you want to play warrior in the race world first
You can't just have one warrior right you need to have a bunch so that you can then do a bunch of splits and have any of
Them become your main
You don't want to just be relying on getting lucky in the one split that you get in week one on any given character
So yeah, the tanks always have a little bit more I
Think that's true in most guilds right like if you're in a guild with a
The two character requirement, tanks probably have three or four.
You're going to go with the three character requirement, your tanks might have six, right?
That's a pretty common occurrence.
Togo has the entrance to the vaults here, like highlighted on his map, pinned on his
map so he can see it and fly straight to it.
These are the optimizations that just speed you up a couple of extra seconds.
It's been a really integral, sort of, fill play.
Like, he can play whatever is needed, especially of the-
Gun shoes! Oh my God!
Yeah, the gun shoes.
What's the moves here? Take notes.
Absolutely, Zoomin'.
This is the optimal way to get to the Venomous Abyss raid.
You slam the gun shoes here.
I think if he had his choice, Shadow Breast would probably be what he'd play in a lot
of these tiers as well, or DPS of Ochre is another one that I've seen him like,
but capable of playing like a lot of those ranged, especially like the ranged hybrids
that can DPS or heal.
He seems to have a character sheet full of those.
He joined as a moonkin.
Shaman's the moonkins, yeah, those kinds of things.
I learned some interesting lore this morning that Shay,
Shay is considered one of the players
that has the stupidest character names.
I wish I had a list of them though.
I...
He outweap, he beat Shaq.
What, you disagree?
I was gonna say no, I mean his character names
were ridiculous.
Ooh, we have to see it all the longest
here right now.
Oh, perfect, oh, the timing, look.
got John cat form that's that's just a good he's a little PC okay this is perfect
plane driver Tesco Express John cat form express isn't yeah saying what thing to
name your character this is what is he gonna name yourself
little copper next or something he is switch name is is go toy okay I have no
idea what that means, but he's been rating me for like a month.
Did you know who it was?
No idea.
I was like, oh, thanks so much.
You know, things for the stream, like things for the rain, how's everybody doing, how was
your stream?
Like, he got the crap out of him.
And I found out like the other day, I'm like, oh my God, I need to apologize.
Just not recognizing who he is.
But to my defense, what the heck is go-toing?
Yeah, I feel like if somebody has like multiple names across different handles or whatever,
can't be that's not your fault it's frustrating Tesco Express is an elite
character yeah that is a great character yeah Tesco Express I feel like
grocery stores in general have the weirdest especially in America the
weirdest names like giant eagle king supers where's in the ones in your area
grocery store yeah they have weird names jewel osco yeah hi V what is this
safe way safe way Tom thumb like these are these not strange names
Higley oh Higley Wiggly Higley Wiggly what the heck is that good that's good
brandy correctly
all these somebody doesn't chat yeah Walmart Walmart Walmart Walmart you guys
ever been to a Myers no it's like the Midwest version of a Walmart it's so good
Never been I wish they were ever if you ever see one go into one because they're goaded
Next time in the Midwest. Yeah
Check one out. Yeah do it do it do it
We need to take shade of what Bucky's
All the European the European
In the bucky. I don't even know if we have them in California. I don't think we do
They open one in Colorado recently like in the middle of nowhere
I mean it kind of makes sense because it's it's off of like a pretty major highway
But they're in like the middle of nowhere on it
It's uh, it's life-changing people that were here for the World Cup love dude. Not like not like
Ironically, but they thought it was like really funny. Yeah. Yeah, it's quintessential American. Yeah, something
We're just like what I like to point out the time. I'm not from the Midwest. I'm just an educated woman
And I lived there for a few years
So it is? Yep. Where are you from originally? Colorado.
Colorado, okay. Yeah. There was like three, so. What was I
gonna say? Oh, ranch dressing was also something the World Cup people were
obsessed with, but nobody told them about powdered ranch dressing, so they were
bringing back bottles of ranch dressing in their suitcase. So I feel like
powder would have been so much easier. I'm sure you can get it in other
countries as well, but we do have a sighting of the Junkler here, one of the famous split helpers.
Wait, what?
The Junkler.
He's in a split?
Apparently.
That's what the little banner on the top says.
That's the guy with the go-to-transmog.
Yeah.
The Junkler?
Oh, the Junkler.
Okay, not in the split, but in the chat maybe.
Oh my gosh!
Oh my gosh!
The Junkler!
The Transmog.
Dude!
In the chat.
We're gonna get us we're gonna get his transmog in a second thought is exciting welcome back
We've been wondering where you were we've been trying to educate atlas and jet on your on your your prowess
Yeah, anybody anybody who'd like to get their transmog or pets shown off on stream. Oh my god 30 dollars towards our charity goal
see all that GG slash donate place to go there, but here is I
Believe the Junkler
Oh, yeah, yeah, that was like a joke. You don't need to believe that that is the Johnkler jet now
Let's turn the building they need to see this. Hopefully they're tuned in right now. Is that a mop?
It is. Oh my gosh, you're to clean up your mistakes
That's amazing. I didn't even know there was a mop in the game. That's what we didn't have that last year
Did we do these level 87?
Level 87 is like you done most of leveling but you're busy you're busy transmog and yeah, I respect it
He was level 80 last race.
Yeah, this time though, it's like, you know, Silver Moon's under attack.
Gotta go help the Imani and Zulamon.
Hang on.
Let me get my mom.
Yeah.
He's been mopping up all the problems.
Fetch me my purple and red shoulder cloaks.
And my blue gloves.
My punk hair.
Like a reverse mohawk situation.
If he was from the stick, he could have been a superhero.
Yeah.
Oh, you think so?
I think so.
It kind of looks like the SpongeBob guy.
The SpongeBob superhero.
The villain.
Yeah.
Evil!
What were their names?
Waiting for chat to catch up.
Well, Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy with the...
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is the villain I don't know our camera
or what the guy's name was.
Love the mob.
Oh, 10 out of 10.
Also, we forgot to rate.
Or at least I did.
Oh, yes, man, right.
Yes.
Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Feel that GG slash donate if you'd like to send in your transmog make sure there's a link to the armory in the chat as well
Thank you so much to everyone that has submitted so far. We're still doubling
Donations are getting our donations matched. So thank you so much. We're in Warcraft logs here for right now, right?
Yeah, we're craft log on our matching your donations. So thank you so much. There's a look at it. Oh, yeah
Nicely done so good definitely a similar vibe there
Thank you to the Junkler.
Thank you so much.
Yeah, we love you, the Junkler.
Maybe we can bring the Junkler back when Jett and Atlas are on, because they keep hearing
about the Junkler.
Don't get to see the Junkler.
I think Jett would love that mug.
You think?
I think you know where all the pieces are from, too.
I would be curious.
Yeah.
Well, I think one of them at least was from the training post, right?
The cape thing?
Or my rug?
Yeah, the cape, at least.
The shoulder capes, right?
Did you guys see the training post items this month?
Yeah, I looked through briefly.
I think that might be a great segment.
Would you like to hand me the laptop, Mr. Tunnels,
or Dr. Tunnels?
Should we look at the trading post items?
Sure, sure.
Or Cowboy-esque.
The ones that are coming out like next month,
you're saying?
Like, I think they're going to go up before next month.
Somebody showed me a trading post thing of a Cowboy,
and I actually don't know if that's a good question.
I don't know if it's a good question.
Where do I do this outside of game?
I always just go directly to the store.
If you search like, wowhead, I'm sure they have.
I think they make posts every month of like,
here's the trading post.
Trading post.
Oh, I can't type on this computer.
trading posts. Let's see. Let's see. Let's still let our nails are back to back. Yes. Yeah. Oh,
wow. Look at that. We're learning. Okay. Hold on. Let me lose again. Take a second. Trading posts.
In the meantime, we get to watch the excitement of another heroic first boss. Oh, wait, no.
Sorry. Normal first boss. Oh, even more exciting. That's right.
T.H.G. on normal nexale, the soul coiler. Thank goodness.
the pleasure the absolute privilege to watch this this is what we all came for
The race to world first asterisk. Oh here we go
Okay, look at this
Okay, we were just talking about a cowboy hat this morning
Tuttles there's another one. Yeah, she was asking me if I knew where cowboy hat was I think there was one with from the
brand
currency and more within from delves, right?
Yeah, what is this?
The bicycle, it's a bike, that's a front view of the bicycle.
We didn't have one of these, it's like a,
it was like a, you bought Mountain Dew, you got this bicycle.
There was some kind of thing, yeah, where you could get a motorcycle like this,
but I don't know if this particular recolor was ever available until now.
Well, hold on, that one's just only available to American players is like the...
Okay, yeah, one's for promotion, yeah.
Yeah, okay, so now you can get it through the trading post, which is nice.
Yeah, so it was promotional if you want to go back or forward without needing to do that
You can do control and then the arrow key. Oh
Yeah, the buzzard, whoa, you're skipping over the buzz. Oh, so sorry. So sorry. Is this a pet? Oh, this is a mount
Yeah, okay. I like that it's not it's these are one of the mounts that I just I think of these like
Traders tenders tax because like it's not a particularly cool match or anything like that
Yeah, I think a lot of people just buy them because like I've used that buying all the mounts, you know
Yeah, they want to 20 attendees left to use what you want on the collectors. Yeah, what that number to go up?
That's a nice one the grandmaster royal board. Yeah, I was already locked in here
I think it's behind the where your feet go. That's like the two rocks. Yeah, okay. Yeah, that's kind of cool
You get like scrapped in I just
Like a skateboard, you know, it looks like a snowboard or something. It does. Yeah. Yeah, all right
He's got that kind of animation to that a belt pretty cool. Yeah, the dune cloth belt
I think that's like a part of the same set as the it's like the same style,
but a different recolor of the one that you get for the month. Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. All right. I like this parachute colors.
Well, it's like, uh, yeah, it's like this half skirt thing that they've been doing.
Okay. So just kind of recolors of all of the sort of the cowboy stuff.
Oh, we got an iPad. Oh, that'll be good for your, your,
aren't you doing a rogue zero to hero? Well,
no, I was shocked to be gets voted into rogue.
Okay, well remember that this is here. Yeah, you can also get in black. Oh, I love these. Oh my god
I could look like George Washington
Well, these are the little like beanie things, but yeah, they kind of look like a wig. Oh, there we go. There's a hat
Yeah, oh nice gunslingers
Yeah
Very nice good. Yeah, very nice. This is the mug that we needed on the trading post absolutely
That's a good one.
And then we've got the snowy version.
Oh, and then we've got some flowers.
Some snowy spring flowers.
You on a torrent.
Could be, yeah.
Yeah.
I love the flowers on torrents.
Yeah, and I go well with a female torrent shaman animation.
Exactly.
Some chain heels out there.
There we go.
Oh, there we go.
I hate it.
They look so stupid.
They look so dumb.
Ethan loves using these.
Those are parts of several of the best worst mobs you've seen.
Yeah.
But in like a funny way, like an endearing way, like, you know,
you know that if a guy in your shows up to this and you're key wearing this,
you're like, all right, this dude's about the blast.
Okay.
We've got these things also, little shoulder cape things that they've been
doing, a couple of recolors of those.
Ooh, we've got some PJs.
Oh, this.
Yeah.
Now is this the same thing?
And it kind of transforms.
Yeah.
Maybe you got both appearances.
Yeah.
It's in the same photo, which makes it think, yeah, it's the same.
Oh, yeah, it's two, two, so these are ensembles, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Oh, we've got like a quiver, got some PJs as well, a nice wizard hat.
The wizard hats, yeah, that's nice.
The classic wizard hat in black.
What is this?
This is like a chest.
Oh, yeah, it goes with the mount.
Oh, yeah.
These are both returning as well, so.
I was gonna say.
Already been available one.
Yeah.
Okay.
are. It's like a woody from Toy Story. It does. It does. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I
like the fringe. The fringe is nice. Oh, it's on the boots too. I feel like if you hit
the hat and you hit some like leveling, like level 17 leveling. Yeah. That's the look
that you're going. Yeah. Yeah. Like the classic one that people do where you look
like you're from Westfall. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Bias Bandit. With your little fork
thing. Yeah. Little hay fork. All right. Westfall meets me. Look at this. Got
in a white looks very nice it's giving it's giving ash from overwatch okay we've
got the the chest shield yeah yeah we've got an axe yeah very nice and the the
mace below I think is yeah the horsey also from chat yeah but it's balancing
that thing yeah the horsies are really good they can jump over other pieces why
was this the thing I feel like I remember the timing of this made sense
when they brought it around last time yeah there was just a there was a
the chess month okay we've got stuff chess of course another game liquid the
best in the world that we've got oh yeah thanks Carlson on the guys to go yeah
guys the players yeah the unironica go yeah just all right he's the he's the
liquid max of chess yes okay for those who don't know yeah yeah we've got a
gun. Hand cannon. Very nice. Hand cannon and orange. We've got an axe and another axe.
I think that's it. That's cool. I'm going to go get the cowboy hat at the very least.
Pretty exciting. We're pretty close to the new month where we'll get new items as well.
Yeah, very true. Definitely roll over that by the time the race starts.
We very well could. We might get to do this segment again.
Yeah. Excellent. I have like 19,000 trainer's tenders.
Dude, I have so many I'm always like running month to month, you know like because I like buying a lot of them a lot of this stuff
I've I spent down
But I want to make sure you got to make sure you always have at least like five or five hundred or a thousand in the bank
Yeah, in case they give you another month where it's like all bangers you need to buy it all right
It's just not that interesting to me whenever
Like the game doesn't feel super collectible because everything is like so
I don't know I like getting the cool stuff, you know, yeah, that's the way I collect
If I like something, I'll get it, but I feel like most collectors, they just want the number
to go up.
A lot of stuff doesn't feel like it's worth the collect, it just feels like it's stuff.
They just kind of like the idea of being a completionist.
For a long time, I didn't realize that that's how people play the game.
I feel like the trading post, because you can't get all of it, can be pretty tough
for those, if you're that sort of person.
It's a lot of FOMO.
Yeah, but for me it's just like, I just like go through it and I'm like, ooh, that's him.
This one's nice, man.
Yeah, and then there are some where it's like, I'll look at it and be like, ooh, that looks
kind of nice.
And then I'll look at my balance and be like, okay, I got to save my, I got my attendees.
Never know what I might need next season.
Yeah.
Plus you can save it for the next, you can save it.
Exactly, yeah.
I think one thing for this, for the next season.
Yeah, you could freeze an expensive thing.
That's a good strategy.
Yeah.
If you're ever low.
Yeah, but every, every time I go to the trading post, I always get comments on how
many attendees I have.
I just don't buy things if I don't yeah want them or think I'm gonna use them even if they're cool
And I don't think I'm gonna use it. I won't get it. Yeah
It's not a class that I don't play like why would I ever buy a wand?
That's very yeah
Yeah, I usually I usually don't buy the weapons unless they're really cool because they are so I play so many classes
And yeah, don't get to use them much
That's fair, but I like getting most the mounts
Not too good
What I do is I add them to my favorites, but I just do a random favorite man
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they always can show up. I used to have a weak aura that if I was ever anywhere that I could have a pet
It would summon a random pet. That's cool. Has anybody replaced that yet because I would really like that
I'm sure that functionality exists. Yeah, maybe maybe smear we got to get we got to get Ellis
Yeah, yeah added in there, buddy request. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah, I know you're working really hard on everything. That's like a functional. Yeah makes you a better player
but Pet Walker was a good post in chat. I used to be the biggest RWF fanboy, but these 10 days of
splits nonsense working up the actual boss kills. It drove me away. Release everything except for
Mythic a month before then go all out when the Mythic drops. I have a solution. Join the Union.
We're fighting against this. Join the Union with us. We are putting our foot down because we
need to be entertained. I will say the release everything except for Mythic a month before
Mythic solution has some unfortunate effects for the race to world first. We had a little bit of that last year, right?
And the amount of burnout was like if you just if you make the race to world first players play
Boring content for a month straight and they would write like optimize all the boring content months straight
And you're not gonna not do that. Yeah, just because it's it would work
The the amount of people that would be gone would be very it would be very tough for
For the guilds to continue
I feel like in that world, but I think the goal is good anything we could do to avoid 10 days
Let's I'm down to do some of those although. I think there are some easier answers like for instance the tuning
I think that there should just be a heroic week. I mean, I think that that's probably the most logical solution
I think that most people who raid mythic even like an hour kind of guilds would prefer a heroic week because and I was talking
With jet about this I actually missed kind of the days where Nailotha opened up in the race world first
Oh zoned into mythic on day one
That was the first thing that you did right and and there's probably wrong to like looking back if you took these guilds and send them back in time
I think they would start with her exploits now on yeah a lot of hatchet coming up
But it was just what you did and it was the most fun
Yeah, I wish that there was a way to get back to like because mythic guilds want to raid myth
Yeah, the thing that you really don't want to do is you don't want to be wasting a bunch of time
We're spending about I'll say wasting bill like spending a bunch of time doing heroic and normal. Yeah, like nobody wants to do that
It's not very fun
Yeah, I think I do think that this season is it like the race for first consequences are mostly
Contained inside of like those kind of guilds. It feels me. Yeah, exactly
But if we want to make the race better, you know because of that there are ways you can change it that also won't have any collateral damage on anybody else, right?
Yeah, of course like where we look at say her a cool text difficulty
I think is a big knob and I think it will get tuned anyways next week
So it could have just been easier this week
And then we wouldn't have had to do all these extra splits and then we would have had more time to do mythic progression
And then that would have probably been better than doing this gearing up nonsense that we're doing for the last couple of days
Yeah, the part of the problem with the little tech stuff is because
Splits have taken so long. You're now getting too close to the reset. So then you're unwilling to commit your entire
Raid to one specific ID. So then you're more inclined to do mythic splits, which is like so silly like exactly
It's like this is impossible. It's a domino effect though
So if we could prevent that first domino from falling, we could have avoided this whole fate.
So updated to copypasta.
Yep.
I used to be the biggest kettle-tran boy, but these 10 days of hearing him talk nonsense,
working up to actually YouTube and drove me away, released everything except Dratnos
a month before, then all out fist fight with wowhead commenters.
Free tweet.
Based.
Free tweet.
Ooh, missed sigil there.
Yep, guessing when the bosses would become attackable and gets it wrong by a couple of seconds. That's embarrassing
this normal split moves into
Lost explorers yips on a vengeance demon hunter right now. I have seen in the m-plus
Yips and Scott were playing some tanks that I was surprised to see some VDH's some
Prop warriors, I think even I think yep
I think this is a byproduct of whenever I said Yips early has 24 characters
He just had yeah, just maybe extra unsaved guys
But the ones that they were he was doing M plus on even right those are ones that they're gonna use so tanks very
Okay, DPS whenever you're like, oh, yes
I need gigabits to be able to compete right to do as much damage as possible tanking is
While it is nice at the same time having the
The full catalog of tank yeah tends to be a lot more valuable than having the absolute best of one class. Yeah
That is true. I mean we've seen a lot of a lot of races in the past
past, have featured a tank 10 I levels behind coming in on a boss. That's like a very common
thing. Whereas it's almost impossible to have that happen with a DPS spec because he's
saying, isn't he behind right now? Yeah, but even if a DPS is like, good, it's not 10
I levels. Yeah, worth playing. Yeah. Yeah, we were on the radio recap yesterday, who
brought up a graph that demonstrated that this skill this tier is the longest we've gone without
going into mythic. Yeah, I am by good margin and even even more now. It's again it is day six of
split something that typically takes three days. Yeah, three and a half. I mean guilds guilds went
into mythic on day one in Castle Nathria and Niolotha and Battle for Desaralor even in Sanctum
the first thing that happened was guilds went into mythic and so that changed
that okay but that was because the guild hadn't developed the strat yet not because
uh new the thing that has changed this tier is not the guild changing the strategy right
it is the environment forcing us to change our strategy yeah the tuning especially for a
I don't know if we can just get back to that somehow, it'd be a miracle.
Again, you just don't really want to, like if you're a mythical, you don't want to be doing
a heroic, it's not that fun.
The only solution is tournament roam, I don't like that.
Nope, that's bad.
I don't like that.
That one is one that gets suggested, but I think I'm out.
It's very unlikely it would happen.
I feel like that would take away the entire tier rate of the raster.
Yeah, exactly.
The decision of like what you're playing, gearing it up, having those item drops matter is such an important part of this.
I think the grassroots nature of the race is like a huge element.
Yeah, the idea that, you know, just any guild could compete although in practice. You can't.
It's more just like also the rule set, right? It's like kill the last boss first, don't get banned.
Those are the only rules with the race, but then you...
And don't get banned because, you know, that's flexible.
So yeah, there's a, you know, it's all up to interpretation. Yeah.
Sometimes you can get banned, hopeful. Yeah, exactly. Sometimes you risk it, you know.
You have to do what you got to do. Hmm.
Caster's getting paid by the day advocating for their own demise. Yeah, that's true.
We just love World of Warcraft. We were WoW players first and foremost,
and Race World's first fans, and then casters.
here's the thing right like right now we're kind of we're kind of sad right oh
lost explores down right now we're sad about it but last year this time we were
sad as well oh dude last I remember and then it was awesome at the end so this
year can very much still be redeemed by the mythic fights it's just gonna this
this will be a stain on its legacy for sure but if it's got great if the
Coiled Alter Mythic is awesome. If Ulotech Mythic is awesome, all can definitely be forgiven.
I remember last year, we made our daily recap video and it was like, it got 120,000 views
and it was literally just named now what. It was like the points might die after three
days.
That's a big question.
That one was something.
That one's not very good. But yeah, I don't know. I feel like this is more just been
deflating than anything else.
Yeah, here's the thing though, the vibes are high.
Yeah, people are, it's kind of everybody's like,
there's some solidarity in the ridiculousness of it all.
I will say how most people watch the Raceralverse
is like they kind of have it on as their side monitor
content and they start paying attention
whenever mythic and the progression
actually starts to happen, right?
Yeah, although, you know, you have been able
to rely in the past, except for last year,
if you watched it on the weekend,
you'd get good content, right?
And this time around, and last time around,
that hasn't been true.
Look, you just get like if you're a viewer all you get is more time to definitely not be neglecting your job
Exactly with the race rule first on your side monitor
Yeah, I know some people that take a work off just so they can watch race
Yeah, just you know if you if you're somebody who takes off work to watch the race rule first
Maybe start planning that PTO for the second week
Yeah, yeah, that's probably it.
On the expansion launch instead of the patch launch or season launch, yeah.
So, you know, it can be fun, too.
But then you kind of get to this point where you're like, now what?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's been the question in the last couple of tiers.
Now what?
Not just for these guilds, also.
Yeah, a lot of guilds experiencing it now.
The raiders are not exactly thrilled about this either.
Again, I was talking to Impact and Shine this morning.
Yeah, they're not.
They're like this is horrible like I like not even like a I'm gonna quit way but more like a man. Just cannot be right like it
Yeah, this is wrong. My favorite part was one impact asked. Are you guys having fun? No, no, buddy
Okay, I'm having fun like in the sense that I would rather this be on than not be on
It's it's happy to be here. Actually, this is like, you know a big wow event just in general
I love the race rule first
At some point we got a pulpit the bosses like a please gets to a point
It does and the problem is if we as we click closer closer to the end of the reset
You know what's happening at the start of next reset more splits. It's not good
I don't I don't want to spoil it, but it's not gonna be yeah
I don't want to be like yeah, I think it's also weird because at the same time
Liquid are always gonna operate in their own best interests
Yeah, exactly and that's the thing right like the race world first has evolved over the years by teams
Optimizing for winning the race to world first
And so like any change that you'd ask them to make that made them less likely to win is just antithetical to what we've been doing here for the past
You know, that's why that's why I said to I have we need to raise three million dollars so that we can change the rules
We need to you or unionize. Yeah, either one or unionize with our funds. That's right funded a funded union
We got it we got it we got it
Yeah, and they for a little bit more of an optimistic note like myth exploits depending on how many bosses they could kill
If that's what they're gonna do, which it really much it does look like there
That's what they're angling towards that could be pretty fun to watch
You know those could be kind of hard mythic bosses with whichever characters they bring it could be some progression
shaped stuff there the voids fire was insanely like mentally
Numbing because the voids fire was like pretty easy and they just like ran through it
But yeah, I could especially like the first couple of times through watching those are those are entertaining
And then on Tuesday, you know, they'll probably be speed running any gearing next week
I think it'll get you fast.
Somebody was citing a clip of a Max interview
or maybe from a stream or something
when somebody asked him about if myth
splits would ever happen.
He said that would never happen.
I need somebody to dig that up.
I don't know where.
I've never seen it.
I don't know where it happened or where it was said,
but I need a clip of that.
It's been a perfect.
Dratness Desrived is a perfect storm,
and I think he's absolutely right.
The reason that this is happening
is because Rhoad has been so incredibly challenging.
And then the guilds have also
had a bit of an arms race over the last couple
where it used to be eight character splits in Shadowlands and then in Dragonflight it was ten character splits
and then in the war within it was 12 and now Liquid's doing 14 and Echo's doing 16, right?
And so the more characters you do the longer it takes for you to be able to actually complete your
heroic runs that you're trying to do. It takes longer to complete your splits. Now, that's already
been pushed back. The normal start date on Mythic tends to be like Friday after dinner,
But now that it's pushed back an additional day because of how difficult Heroic was this tier,
and then one thing leads to another, and now you're in a situation where you're getting so close to the reset,
where it looks like the optimal solution is instead of going into Mythic and committing all 20 of your players,
or like 20 of your best characters to the same ID,
instead you're going to run and go do Mythic splits because you're so close to the reset.
Now that's under the assumption that Mythic has the same linear level of difficulty compared to what Heroic is,
And that's not always true.
There is a world where you can actually get punished pretty heavily by doing mythic splits.
If, say, mythic is a little bit easier than anticipated, it doesn't even have to be a lot.
But say it's a little bit easier, and you could either do a bunch of 4 out of 8s, right?
Say you clear through the vac niche or whatever, and you do that in 4 or 5 runs.
Or the alternative is actually you get some pretty meaningful progression on coiled alternate mythic.
I think you would probably rather have the coil and ulcer at the end of the day, you still need to throw probably 700-800 attempts at a rate instance.
That's normally the number that we've been seeing as of late, although which might be a little bit different because you had like a 550-pole aura.
But at some point you have to actually just get volume of pulls on a boss, like there's no way around it.
But doing it next week with extra item levels is a lot easier than doing it this week with less item levels.
There's a question of like how much, how many pulls does that extra gear save you?
If each on each boss that extra gear saves you somewhere between 10 to 50 pulls
That's a really big deal, right?
It's in the numbers probably not 50 it's probably somewhere between like 10 and 20 maybe
depending on the difficulty
Question
What was your last night?
No, I went home. I had a nice early sleep for dinner. Yeah, I got home at the you abandoned the beefy five
Yeah, I had I was so tired. That's crazy. I was sleepy. I got my full eight hours. I feel great now
Somebody messaged. What was the whisper? I think it was xyronik. Yeah after a key
Yeah, somebody's whispered xyronik after a key was an honor doing a key with one of the beefy fire
That's our group name. That's uh, let's go
cams
Calamazi and Zyra 95.
Well somebody got pizza last night because I woke up, this has been a reoccurring thing.
I wake up in the morning and there's like some kind of sauce packet very delicately placed
on my keyboard and this time it was an arrangement of a pattern of pepper and parmesan cheese packets.
So it's interesting because most people whenever they decide that they want to become
you know professional streamers or something like that, they normally do it under the
pretenses of making money in some capacity. How long has he been under the pretenses of
fundraising for food delivery, fast food delivery to be specific, so that way he can feed his
fast food addiction?
I've never seen him stream so much during a race, and now I know why. He's motivated
by Taco Bell.
He's not racing.
Yeah, he's not racing.
Yeah, he found his motivation to stream while at the race rule first.
Much like a dog, he is very food motivated.
Yes, exactly. Yeah. He also kind of grumbles like one, two, three.
He does.
he does
for a little puppy noises
you know
we're gonna be heading into uh... some comms and we're going to be taking a break
get some new castles in here we'll head to a monster energy listening and we will
be right back
a little bit
he's under boss, 1s and 3s
really better
find a friend
Let's kill it.
Okay, after this there's a lot of trash you have to clear, it's pretty difficult.
Get ready to fucking walk in.
Good job everybody, good job, good job, good job.
I don't need any of this, that's okay though.
blue, red-blender one.
Like that.
Alright, try to hug the right wall and then left wall.
We'll skip some trash that way.
Hug the right then the left. You can skip trash.
Oh, we pulled a little bit of extra.
It's fine. Just get kicks.
Bring it up.
Okay, we're going to have to go back here and kill some adds.
Okay, we're going to pull triple behemoth on this next pull.
We'll use less and all cooldowns.
I'm going to go grab them.
Okay, I'm going to come up here. This is a fucking sin fuck in everything moment.
Just careful of the knocks. Try to be faced where we just came from.
Have your churches back to where we just came from.
Hey everyone blast blast blast pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop nice work I'm gonna
start running up to the next trash just keep hitting the biggie move I'm just gonna creep
everything up here
everyone run to the top of the stairs, run to the top of the stairs
good job, good job, good job, amazing
Okay, we have one more trash bullet after this, then we're going to do Vashnik, it's
really important on Vashnik.
If you ever have a healing that absorbs on you, like a shadowy debuff in your drop-in
swirlies, you just want to be on top of your friends.
If you ever have a red circle, you do want to be on top of your friends.
If you ever get a purple or a green debuff, you're going to get some lines that come
And if you're a character you just want to get far away from the boss, it makes it easy
for everyone to dodge.
Even if you're a melee and you get that green buff it's important that you just give people's
face on the boss because the lines are quite fast and to dodge and we're just gonna stay
on one side and we'll fight.
Are you coming at a different character?
Yeah.
Okay, just switching into the group to hunt.
Yeah, the character I thought was in safe was too.
Okay, guys, we're going to sleep.
Wow, so let's get a quick reset then we're going to be pulling.
Power first time. Destructive is a venom.
Combined with other elms.
Yeah, if you go to B, you can just keep it. You can just sell it for yourself. We don't
need that. Thank you.
Both timers up. We're going to be starting over here on the ping. If you're a melee,
if you're a ranged, you want to be kind of in the middle. In the case there's going
to be some ad spawning across the room, you want to grip them over. When they spawn,
after him, Bob.
Plused.
I don't know what these spread out, this is the thing I was talking about, you just want to give everyone a lot of space.
For more space you can give people it's really nice.
Take them back to the boss.
Hey, DK, these are the grip adds over there.
If you can grab them, if you have a purple debuff,
just try them out to be on top of your friends.
Watch the Swirlies and spread out again.
Good time you get this.
Just move away from the boss.
Make it nice and easy.
of
Small personal, DK's Gryff, bunch of feeds, just early spawning, and spread out.
of
the
good grips good grips nice let's just kill the boss right out and make people safely
and come back and blast him.
Good job everybody, thanks for coming.
I think that's all we're doing in this run.
We're going next one now.
We have another one to do?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was posted.
Where is that posted?
That's what we wanted to do in the rest of the rig.
Vashanin Explorers, okay.
Yeah, so we go...
X-character.
It's on C, right?
It's on C.
Yeah, I think so.
fucking bdh drops an absolute nuke on this boss, still doing absolutely no necks
yeah
Yeah, this is your run in some next aisle I think.
Oh, my god, that's a lot.
Woohoo!
Let's just all go and see the groups full.
Oh.
It's walking already.
Oh, we have to clear Sentinels too, probably, right?
Because we can't get there.
Alright, wait.
Did Togo get that locker for us?
There's no way, right?
Does anyone need anything but oh we do actually have it some of those is that?
Wow
That's crazy
Look on the go
Yeah, it's on teleboxy. We'll do a where's the group?
Helpers can you type in the chat where it will boss you guys are on or you guys at a
fashion okay
there's no warlock yeah i'm flying there yeah that's just clear thank you thank you thank you
okay it's all guns there just something make sure you're summing me and then we're good
okay yeah i'm on the way there
Yeah, we're summoning you all, it's okay.
It's completely fine guys, you know?
Look the thing is, it's better to start at explorers because when you kill this explorers
you can jump off the edge, think about that, and then you run to Vashnik, look at that
bro.
Oh yep, Scott ganked.
That's okay, I wanted to, like, you go faster to explore, just to be with my team.
It's very important if you have the Saptor toy that you become a Spectral Saptor.
What is it, we have a guy with no data, though?
Yeah, we have one guy with no data beating, beating you. Do you have a liquid split out on?
Did my bad sack, I believe in him.
Lizzie, your wire saved to second boss, is that fine?
That sentinels, right?
Yeah, that's sentinels.
Okay we're good.
Thumbnawalife and Hesta, we're missing one person or is Telegon getting a lockout in this?
We're missing one right?
Yeah, we need one more helper because we're only nine because Shaga moved.
Yeah, I'm listening to this.
I'm tired up.
This boss is just very important if you guys get the fish that you're dunking it on Nama
or Iku.
They come from boxes.
You want to hold it for a little bit, but you'll get an extra action button and you
can use it on them.
Hopefully one of our raiders can pick it up though so if you see a fish you can just
leave it.
We'll grab it.
So, three target fighters.
one
Maybe get max if I can quick flash
You didn't put liquid in the title that's part of the reason then you got to
Next that shit
Like what is it in the title? Yeah
Yeah, it is okay. There you go. That's a lot of holy shit
Sorry, 5 big boombles isn't enough.
Yeah, no, no.
I hope I have to turn it on.
Yeah, I've had this guy in multiple of my runs this morning, but I don't know.
I'll get it.
Put that on the boss, beating you.
Yep, you get the, like, nobody can just slam it on the boss.
You're still vengeance demon hunter? That's heavy chill, mate.
Yes, I'll get it.
Big damn rotation. Lock it in.
That's right, vengeance. Just fucking summon your meteors from the sky.
Run over some boxes guys run over some boxes. We're looking for fish if you get a fish you want to give it to Nama
No, no, no, no, let me get the fish or you can let that get the fish. I got the fish. I love fish
Nice nice flow
Okay, when I'm like was back you need to make sure we target Nama watch your feet
I'm going to make a line with these to the level of the rim, alright. Make a line. Make a line with the middle.
Just fill in the hole, fill in the hole. Yeah, well you can overlap them at the same time. Perfect. Looks great.
And I do it one more time.
Watch your feet, watch your feet.
Switch boss.
I'm making the line just like before, perfect.
You guys did it perfect.
Okay, next fish we got to get to Iku, okay?
It's the mage boss.
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All making this event possible, and I'm sure feeling great about it as we enter day 6 of splits.
I love this. I want splits forever.
That's right. Good news. The reset is soon, so we will have even more gearing to do, but
it's going to be an interesting next couple of days. I'm curious about like what is being
gained from these normal, like normal Nexali the Soul Coiler, normal The Lost Explorers,
where are we getting out of these?
Normal Nexali, heal a trinket.
Okay.
Normal Lost Explorers, the Gerbo's bag of whatever is in them, I don't know what's
going on in there.
The fish bag.
That's right.
The fish bag.
The Nimrissa's, int trinket.
So we're basically just going down the list of trinket bosses that are not the
last two that people will end up using so pretty it's actually kind of nice
that there's a little bit of a front-loaded loot because if you're
playing a melee DPS you don't care about any of this yeah yeah you live and die
by the last two bosses if you're a strength they're adjuke class and the
casters get all the fun stuff at the beginning of the raid so you know
they're probably just looking for select items to power up some of their
characters for what we hope to be mythic splits. Yeah, the mythic splits do sound
likely and you know an interesting divergence from the normal and heroic
splits that we've seen up to now. So as it stands on our leaderboard we have
four guilds in the world that have taken out a second boss, the Lost
Explorers having fallen first to XD, but several other guilds now joining
them there, and then we have a bunch of guilds that have taken out the
very first boss on mythic. When we talk about doing mythic splits, we're talking about doing
all of the easy bosses. Which might just be two. It might just be those two. Or it might
be, I think the Entomb Sentinels is a very likely candidate to join that list. But after
that, you're looking at Vashnik or Scissorak, and either of those might be pretty tough.
I feel like Scissorak, tuning-wise, is probably not something that's splitable, especially
week one. Yeah, yeah. Vashnik maybe, you know, it's an execution boss. Maybe if you struggle at it,
that's the kind of thing where you can get good enough at it that you could do it with six characters.
Yeah, there could be some silver lining in those mythic splits in that, you know,
there's not like much data about what's killable. So you'll probably see them poke and prod around
and see, you know, like what can we do more? Maybe we do a little bit of prog,
you know, just to get kind of a feel. Yeah. And, you know, so, you know, all doom and
gloom when we see them go in there with the you know three four five six seven
eight different split characters in mythic raid we'll get a little bit of you
know a little bit of action yeah very reminiscent to last year even you know the
goal of last year after killing it later on Thursday was alright well let's go
do mythic splits what do you think is feasible what do you not think is
feasible and most of the groups were organized and created with getting four
bosses down including chimeris in mind and then you pull up the dragons
And you're like well we got all this time if you just spent a few pulls kind of like figuring out dragon and making it
Repeatable then that just suddenly becomes a split boss to right and then after the first couple runs
You saw dragons going down pretty consistently within one or two poles and all these different mythic splits similar to her cool
Attack right you know her her cool
Attack takes dozens of poles for a lot of guilds to get it down the first time
But then you could do it more quickly on the second or third. Yeah, so I wouldn't
Imagine Vashnik going any differently, you know the first couple groups might run to some resistance
They're gonna have to obviously learn some things about strategy on this boss
But it seems like the kind of boss once you find a replicable right strategy to it
then once you start to pull it out a few more times you can start to
Really see yourself splitting this one as well as long as you have the damage, right?
So that's why they're in these runs right now
They're probably gearing up characters that they otherwise did not plan on playing
Now that we're towards the end of the week on a Sunday and we're like all right
Well, we got time and you know, maybe with the exploits are an option
Let's make sure we're strong enough for them.
Yes, it is indeed a heroic week at home that we've got here.
Yeah, I know a lot of people when they're on streams and stuff,
they're all looking for hype trains and streaks.
I'm looking for a split-raid streak.
How far can we take this?
Let's say we do mythic splits today, tomorrow.
Maybe they don't finish the mythic splits,
so they keep doing splits tomorrow or on Monday.
Then Tuesday rolls around.
We're going to have another set of split runs
because of the reset, you know, fresh heroic bosses and things like that.
Could we see more split runs on Wednesday too?
Because, you know, you never know how many more they need on their reset.
Once we do get to the second reset, though, I feel like the time pressure is
going to be much more on, right?
Where you just know, like, we got to get into mythic, right?
Like, if we spend a bunch of time doing all these extra splits,
Echo could do it more quickly, they could get into mythic, right?
We could lose, right?
That's something that you're not as worried about here in week one.
I'm putting my chips in, we're gonna go nine days
with at least one split run rate being done.
Nine days.
Okay, you think there will be splits up through Thursday?
Yes, but not like, but I think Wednesday and Thursday,
I don't think there are gonna be fully split runs,
but you're gonna see a split rate happen
up to Thursday.
I mean, I'm sure, yeah, that's the thing,
is even on a mid-aggression day,
sometimes for like an hour at the end of the day,
they're like, oh, we got a gear,
you know, Seng's other character
or Driny's monk or something, right?
Let's do a quick little tech for it or whatever.
I am just smiling at the reality in which we live in which the first week we have spent
roughly six days in heroic and normal.
And then we're going to go into maybe one to two days of mythic splits.
And then turn back around and do another full day of heroic splits immediately after
that.
And then follow that up with maybe a little bit more baby mythic.
And with this many mythic splits potentially on the table, we might get to a position where
some players have a couple different characters of comparable power level, right?
Some players that might receive zero items across any of their characters from the mythic
splits that could therefore play any of them.
And they might still not know which is their main until we resolve next week's
bonus rolls.
That would be something that happens for some people.
Now of course, if somebody gets two pieces of mythic loot assigned to them on a character,
That probably becomes their main problem solved, but there's always some RNG associated with
what actually drops in Mythic that might keep certain players' options open.
It might be one of the latest ever main decisions of all time.
Some players, of course, already have a main pretty locked up.
A lot of them have gotten very lucky on one of these runs, right, and you've got somebody
with all the trinkets they want and everything like that.
But if you're looking to figure out which trinkets you want this season, the answer
is there's two answers right the first answer just go with whatever drops from
the later bosses of the raid it's probably fine but if you are want a
little bit more precision than that you want to be sure liquid armory is the
place to go they've got trinket stack sims where you can just look through for
your spec and see what what trinkets would be best for you at the different
item levels as well and even on top of that for just $4.99 for the rest of
the season you can unlock the watch tower which lets you watch every mythic
kill from every POV, and that is TL.GG slash Armory Pass, the place to go there, and we
will upload every single POV of every kill. We thought we'd have some mythic kills uploaded
on there now to show off, but we don't have any from this tier, but the good news is,
if you want to see how it works, we do have the POVs from the last two tiers that you
can go check out and see how it looks, and very good tool if you want to use to
figure out what THD did on a certain fight, for instance, for you or the Warlock
in your guild.
We have some redeeming quality though.
Today, a Mythic Boss will die, guaranteed!
Guaranteed!
Guaranteed!
Money back!
Money back!
I can absolutely tell you with certainty that there will be a Mythic Boss killed by Liquid
today.
Actually, in fact, if you really want to smile, probably a record-breaking number
of Mythic Bosses being killed today for Liquid, not necessarily as much as last year,
but it's going to come close.
That's right.
Temple is the trialist's first boss, Temple is the trialist's second boss, Temple is the trialist's third boss, times 50 each.
Of course. Oh man. Yeah, I've killed a lot of mythic bosses today too.
Yeah, I've been.
Uh, dental now are my first boss, dental now are my second boss, dental now are my third boss.
I ran it back again. Six mythic bosses.
Yeah.
Actually, nine. I did it three times before this shift.
Pretty exciting, yeah.
Yeah, I think mythic raid bosses. There's a good chance. We'll see the mythic splits today
Although, you know, it will be the last thing they do in the reset in all likelihood
So it might be pushed to tomorrow
We could have today just be the gearing up day still then the more M plus today
Yeah, you know, it's gonna really put a smile on my face is we're doing these random
Really boring splits of the raid right now. Yeah lower difficulties
Let's go back into mythic plus right after this that could put a giant smile on my face
Yeah, the joy is you don't be careful, man. You'll manifest something we don't I want to manifest just the most crazy rate experience of all time
And right now we're tracking for that. So how many times when you were raiding?
Yeah, did you experience the thing of like thinking you were about to go into progression and then the analysts give you the bad news?
It's actually a couple hours of m plus or whatever actually we got to do one more split
Was that a common experience? Well, that's the great thing
You know you can come in with the plan of pulling a boss and then you know
Maybe you don't have a plan solidified on the boss or maybe you just need a little bit of time for the analyst figure something out
And guess what bridges that gap? It's a good old dungeons. Exactly. Yeah gives you the perfect
It's it it's something useful to do and it gives you time to figure out what else is useful to do
And I think that's been one of the hardest parts of this week is just like figuring out
What is a useful thing to do with your time?
Given that you could run into
Normal Coiled Altar and it was too hard, the servers are down, Heroic Coiled Altar is too hard, Heroic Gulotech is too hard,
Mythic Namrisa is too hard, Mythic Vashnik too hard, not for liquid, but a lot of guilds ran into these different bosses and had these different issues and you get to this point of like, okay, so what do we actually do with our time?
Not only that, but like there is always a time constraint right as soon as the raid comes out
You're thinking of being the most efficient with your time and and you know effectively using it to
Get as much done as possible
But now when you're towards the end of the week that sort of pressure
Amplifies a bit right at the beginning of the week you want to make sure these raids go smoothly
You want to make sure that you're not wiping a bunch you're wanting to kill as many bosses as possible, but
Now when you're looking at okay, well, we've got one day one day and a half worth of time
What do we do to make sure that we're as powerful as possible going into the reset?
you really start to feel the stress of it in your decision-making and
Not having
Efficiency during that period time could be really bad. So yeah, because you don't want to be in a spot where you you
The reset rolls around and you're doing your opening your vaults and stuff
And then you tab over to an echo stream and you see like oh
They're actually able to do an extra split that we weren't able to do they have extra helpers in that
We weren't able to on this boss
You know whatever extra source of gear and you just kind of you know that your resets over
But they are very good at optimizing those sorts of things. So
definitely a lot of pressure on liquid to make sure that they
Loot optimization this week goes perfectly because next week. There's a good chance the race
Will hinge on being at least equal on that front. Yeah
Next week's gonna be interesting for yeah, I don't want to say today won't be exciting today is definitely exciting
Yeah, we are stepping into mythic today
New content we're gonna watch the delve nemesis boy
Not a mythic boss
New content new content. I love watching
Even the game telling them themselves get back into splits buddy, this is not for you
Oh, yeah, unfortunately not new content for this week is the old DC screen. We've all seen that. Oh, yeah more time
I think I've DC'd more this week than I actually haven't seen several season. They're pretty lucky
I did I did get something really weird happening where on Tuesday
I zoned into murder row and it rendered all of silver moves
I was at 20 FPS the whole dungeon up until a memory leak crit error happened and I DC'd
Back on it was alright
But that was maybe the weirdest thing I've ever experienced and that's about the only thing that's happened to me so far
Hmm. I've been fortunate. I haven't run into anything weird yet. Yeah, mine's just run so everyone's mileage varies
Yeah, you also do play the game more than me. So you're more likely to run into those kinds of issues
Fired up on the other screen also in THD's group, I think you guys
I think so. Oh, DHT chain DC. Oh, and he's screwed. His character is exploded. That character is gone. Yeah, fired up already inside the delve.
We've got Bolira setting up a nice little campfire for everybody while they wait. Yeah. Did you know that that gives you a one percent stat? Yeah, it's nice.
It's nice one. I thought it's five or five. I don't know five. It's a crazy number something like that
Yeah, I've just been running straight in and not eating that every single time
I've ever you never wanted to have a little nice chit-chat with Lyra
I really don't like the delve companions. I have something against them listen
Yeah, I'm I understand I hope next
Expansions delve companion gives me like an active use for my heel
You know give me throughout three charge like 20 second cooldown little heel thing
and then you know I don't have to cry and scream every time I'm about to get my
head locked off and well you run over the emoting run over the health potions
when it's time well you know they don't last forever that's true sometimes some
you know sometimes I like to like pull and around cool down and stuff and then
I need the leader to give me the orbs a little bit earlier than normal and you
know I just want the full control I just want to be in control fired up
looking at his Valera, which is only level 47, inspects tank right now. I don't know, I'm not
sure if it's his Valera that will matter though, because I think it's whoever zones in first,
play with their Valera, so. Well, I managed to painstakingly get my Valera to 80,
thinking that that would make a big difference, and I feel like it might not. I don't think it
helps in the question mark, question mark delves much. It helps in the regular tier 11 delves.
Yeah, oh, like going around one shot and stuff, if you got her as a DPS, but
Yeah and the question mark question mark I think they they've nerfed her so that
she won't just carry the fight for you. That's unfortunate. It is actually nice
having DPS Fulair as a tank and a delve. She she kind of just stabs something and
then explodes every now and then. Which is about the only compliment I'll ever
give the delve companion. So THD is able to join able to get inside the
group although unfortunately he's not in this instances group so he has to
leave oh okay hello I would we rendered we took a look behind the curtain
interesting order there wasn't good a lot of psychic damage to be taking when you
do something like that okay now he's not in a group I think he his character got
stuck in a separate instance when he's owned it there we go now he's back all
right we're all here we got six people inside this delve one of them of
course being Valera what are your predictions one shot yeah easy one shot
really yeah that much faith in them okay I don't I'm gonna say to eggs eggs
how we'll figure it out yeah this is basically a ball they have eggs on an
anarchy Dale shopper on them do you guys think they have that on for it yeah
one of them does or we'll just remember because you know he's that kind of well
I think he's that kind of guy the add-ons have been removed from oh
of so yeah so it's not even you know oh dude they're cheating oh this is no fun
at all except they have the wrong they're the wrong markers yeah really don't
think this boss is fun enough to warn not using the add-on I liked it I was
having a good time with it I once you once you taste the perfection that was
kind of as a it's kind of hard to okay this is going to be the easiest set ever
It's literally just back and forth between circle and blue
So far so good three out of five four out of five and five out of five. Holy moly two more times to go
It's a fun solo one
Grinester and fire taking out
Restrining who can rest fired up massive choke coming that is embarrassing
Magic fired up infirmato. Yeah
Does need to okay, so does is this a are they on a beer as charge system or do they each have their own beer as CD?
Don't know. Yeah, I don't know how I think it's a charge
Because we did the nemesis boss last time last year and then we had two people die in our group
And I remember it was just a slug just slowly little yeah, because we couldn't res anybody I
Didn't son of blood DK and it's really really funny this this guy taking like a cool eight minutes of combat
Oh yeah dude, I was in, I had 10 minutes I think, on day one.
Yeah, not really a stick a while too if you do not take.
I remember I was streaming it from my guild, I went in completely blind, I had no idea what I was doing.
Wiped a couple times at the beginning, messed up the memory game like once,
and then, you know, they were watching me at the pace at which this boss was getting to the next memory game.
And then, I think Carol, one of our friends, he was just like,
you know what, I'm just gonna go, I'm gonna go take a dump, I'll be back, I'll see you for the next memory game.
He was gone for like four and a half minutes came back perfectly timed
Yeah, it was always this one on a lock back when you had double interrupt
That was are you guys doing this on purpose by the way, or did we just all sync up with the hands behind the back?
I was doing it before all you guys. Yeah. Well, I'm it's not a competition, but it's interesting how in sync we are
You know, yeah, yeah, I'm trying to I'm trying to build our our synergy here
Yeah, I think I know just trying to keep the consistency going mm-hmm. Oh, so you clued in on it and then you followed up
I don't know. I was subconscious. So okay. I think I'm mirroring. It's what you do when you like people, you know
You know, yeah, I'll be there
Does that a lot of max. Oh, yeah, maybe came Swedish. Yeah, he became Swedish for a little while when now is in the gilb
Yeah, and when we first got European players for a little bit. He was he was hitting a little playing on his words
Yeah, he put a little bit of uh, I'm not gonna say spice cuz I don't think Swedish people do spices, but uh
They do ligon berries. Yeah. Yeah, they do that
They do he put a little league on Barry on it. You get a little snooze with his speech, you know
Oh, yeah, they do that to you that too. Yeah, they're very met over there
What is going on with this?
Well fired ups back up and they've done two memory games
So they've only got one more to go. Yeah, very exciting stuff going right now
I think it's 90 60 and 30 percent are where you get those memory games. Okay. Yep
And each time you get one more outside of that. Oh, well, let me tell you there's several other exciting mechanics on the Aztec
question mark question mark and counter this one is a frontal cone that you want to dodge and then
Wait for it. There's a couple auto attacks. Then momentum store makes waves
These ones can spawn kind of out of nowhere though
So you want to be close to the boss so they don't spawn on your head
Then there's a kick that you want to interrupt and a dispel
But if you have healer relish, yeah, so sweet and just gets rid of it
She'll either solo the Dispel or the Kick for you, and you've got to get the other if you are soloing.
Depending on whether you have her as a Tank or a Healer.
There we go.
Okay, so in the Intermission, the Sermon of Ulotech.
You get these different patterns, and you have to go to the save spot,
but you have to remember the pattern because it's going to repeat without the indicators.
And, even more exciting, while this is happening, you have to kill the Echo of Azterek.
If you leave it alive for too long, it's going to start doing overlapping the like Cast, right?
So it'll Cast and the Boss will Cast.
And if you're trying to solo, you won't have enough kicks to handle it, so I got a GPS check here.
I got bad news. Take a look at the screen. Oh, wrong one. I spoke too soon. I was going to say
it's foolproof. They literally have the sequence in the middle of their screen on top, but DHT
still manages to go to the wrong spot and dies. But yeah, they got a little nifty add on there,
you know? Well, not add on. Sorry, sorry. Weird, game feature that I was missing because
I've been told the computational week or has been gone. So definitely an accessibility feature.
That has somehow found its way only on THD's screen.
Yeah, that is awesome.
I did this one, Natty.
I did it with just the brain remember.
Yep, I put down four markers myself
and just repeated the sequence of my head
and then had my guildmates just screaming random things
in my ear.
Oh yeah, I was able to grief one of my guild
crews by doing that.
That was very fun.
They were not happy.
It's also funny.
You can get really, really, really easy patterns.
So you can get like a somewhat challenging one.
You either get the back and forth, back and forth,
or you get like a full clockwise motion kind of going, maybe a little bit.
But sometimes you can go like left across, left right across, you know, then that's very hard to remember.
And when I say very hard, not that hard of course, but those are harder than the just
AB, AB, AB that you can sometimes get.
I want to see like a boss with like multi-phase and like a bunch of mechanics in each phase.
Yeah, but I think the delve nemesis has sort of fallen into this place of like,
There's maybe one mechanic, and then there's a kick and a dispel, and the companion will do one of them,
and you figure out how to do the other one, and there's like the boss auto attacks you for a bunch of health,
if you're depending on the setup, and the boss has like a tank buster, and then it has an ad that you've got a DPS check to kill.
That's been the last view, except for Kaiveza have really followed that pattern. Kaiveza, what a fight.
Yeah, that was pretty nice though even kind of as I had a little bit of like technical issues
But the actual design of the boss is good. Yeah, it's hard to also like standardize the experience for all the rules
Exactly like this, right? Well, that's why I actually kind of disagree because now the delve companion will cover something that you're missing
Right. Yeah, whether it's a kicker it as well. I think my biggest problem is that one way to like make
The one cheap way they make the delbox hard is just to like auto attack you for a billion health
Yeah, so like you're I hate that device. Yeah, I think I hate the
The way that Delves scales so much the auto attack damage
Because it just feels like it feels like it's so such a boring way for things to be hard is and it's such a like like
Kiting is not I don't know
I don't find this weird little minigame where you just get smacked and then you're taking a couple back steps
You're like the leader. Heal me motherfucker. Yeah, I need help
And then she's just kind of jumping around I remember
Delves were like being announced when plunder storm is happening
And when you would drop in plunderstorm like every mob you'd fight would just like have like a frontal cone or something
That you dodge or a swirly or some kind of thing like that instead of auto attacking you for half your health bar
You know what I'm really fun
I really want to see in a delve boss is I want them to mind control your delve companion
You have to fight them. Oh, that'd be cool. Yeah, like that's one of the things. Oh, that would be very that'd be very therapeutic
Yeah, a lot of hardic for me, dude. Imagine if I could just beat Bran up. Oh my god
I hate that guy. I'm I do you know I miss him. He's a loser
He's an absolute loser.
You know, I miss when he would do stuff like jumping into A.O.E. and, you know, he's saying
you got a dodge after a year.
But he's got the dodge!
He's always a...
Don't stand in that!
He's the worst, man.
He's like a helpless little idiot who finds his way into danger and then expects you
to save him every single time.
I know.
He's just constantly up to some shenanigans in the game.
I got a lot of kick out.
I got a real kick out of his incompetence.
No.
Dude, he would like greet you and then he'd be like, next time, let's use some
I'm a harder hitting move.
Yeah.
Like, dude.
Yeah.
It's like, shut up, man.
What did you get me into?
Ah, champion.
I've opened the door, and all this evil has poured out.
I need your help.
It's like, dude.
Come on, man.
You're a capable guy.
Stop opening the doors.
Maybe his accent really disarms me.
Yeah.
It's just so endearing.
Well, what an endearing guy.
Edering is one way to put it.
I would say frustrating for me.
Yeah.
All right.
So we've got a tier 11 delve now underway for THD.
This is to get the cracked Keystone quest that
then give some extra hero and myth crests above the cap which will be very powerful increases
abilities but something that will increase your abilities is a nice mouse pad and if you want the
very coolest one ever made at tl.gg slash rwf you can pick it up there you can see oh there's a
we've got one you guys are showing off just there i'm on stream check out ultec yeah it is
incredibly cool mouse pad these mouse pads that come out every single day are really really sick
I
Exclusively swap them out every single time. Yeah afterwards whenever we have a new one of these come out
But this one is awesome. It's got a nice little black and white. It's got a little outline of a little tech. She looks real menacing
Yeah, I've been using the Dementia's one for a while back at home
But I might have to upgrade to this one. This is so nice
And then there's also hoodies shirts jerseys as well
You can see a lot of the designs on your screen right now for those. Oh, you really want to take it
No, I thought you're pushing it towards. No, absolutely not. You're ganking it
There's a calling to your soul and I didn't mean I don't I don't mean to yank
subconsciously it's it's drifting towards you because you love it so much yeah
The jerseys really sick this time around to we've got a nice color scheme on it
It's got like a little wrapping snake kind of around yeah
I'd be a cool tattoo idea for a really really long time, but now it's in Jersey form
That's right
You can it's a sort of a temporary tattoo of the of the clothes if you think about it so very cool
TL dot GG slash RWF the place to go to pick all of those up
Thank you everybody who is buying our merch.
I like how the DERP versions of the apparel has become a mainstay now at this point.
You know, like we've always got the DERPy1, like this tiny little snake with its tongue
out or like Illyria shooting a bow and arrow.
I will say though the DERPy version of last raid's shirt actually looks cool if you
like take a little bit of the DERP out of it.
Like it looks like the final area of Dark Souls 3, when you look at the skybox.
It reminds me of exactly like that.
It looks really cool.
What are you talking about with the little Sunwell?
Yeah, with the Void Storm and then like it's, I think in the dirt version of the shirt,
it's like the Sunwell beam looks kind of like watery, like it's leaking.
And there's a smile.
Yeah, yeah.
If you take the smile out of it, it looks really cool.
Not a lot of smiles in Dark Souls.
Not a lot of smiles in Dark Souls.
Well, you can find joy in the little things.
You can find joy in anything, really.
What's his name? The guy's in Elden Ring as well.
That tricks you and puts you into the Iron Maiden thing,
sends you to the volcano place.
Oh yeah, yeah.
What's his guy's name?
Patches or something?
Patches, yeah.
Patches, yeah.
I'm like, oh, Patches.
I got a smile.
He's like the Samuel Jackson of the Dark Souls series.
just appears in all the yeah there's a there's a content creator who cosplay or role plays
as patches and goes into other people's lobbies and PVPs them that guy needs to get locked
up he's the most serial killer ask person I've ever witnessed play the game and that
guy needs to be restrained an absolute legend right there he's a beast at it too he wins
frequently in the most crazy ways I hope patches is in the Elden Ring oh my oh wow
We have hit it. Okay. Wow at our our charity donation goal
$20,000 which we just hit is snake costumes for us
Yeah
All right, thank you. Thank you. I'm for it. No, I am pumped for it
Dude, I got to be Bob Ross earlier this week and now I get to be a snake
That's a dude. I'm always down for anything fun. We will we will set that up imminently
Sometime in the next couple hours. We'll we'll have that done and
and show that off for you guys.
So thank you everybody for your donations so far.
TL.GG slash donate if you'd like to join them.
If you send in $30 or more, you can send in your transmog,
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We're collecting a few of those to do
all at once sometime soon as well.
So that'll be a fun piece of content we can do
even equally as exciting as these tier 11 Delves
that we're watching right now.
And yeah.
He's picking up books.
I don't know what he was accomplishing with that, but yeah, he's able to finish off that
delve.
Let's see what...
So he's got that craft keystone quest now.
You can see on his quest blog.
That was the main reason to do one of these delves.
I'm getting a little sneak peek right now at what we just accomplished.
The snake costumes.
That is awesome.
We'll be able to fix those set up very soon.
I don't like the sinister smile frog is giving me right now with all this, but you
know, such as...
It's a smile of mischief and...
He's a mischievous guy. He's constantly up to something crazy.
Yeah, he's looking to do something mischievous.
Yeah, I can see, like, there's a lot of different bags that they're getting out.
We've also got an ominous next donation goal, which is just random PowerPoint presentation.
Yeah, $25,000 would be that one.
What would you do it on?
A PowerPoint presentation?
I think they maybe we have to oh, we don't know what it is
I don't think I don't think yeah, it's like something that we're creating
I think it's something oh
Ridiculous that they find amusing and then we have to go through it without having even known what it is
Oh, and then it makes us look really really really no, that's that seems fun. Yeah, I think that oh, yeah
Super fun and a 30,000 that cast your leg getting waxed
Which I think we're not hitting this race given the pace we're going so far this and the pace of the donations
Right now as well up until we get to that
$30,000 goal your money is being matched one-to-one by Archon work-off logs and Archon so
Very easy to get there and lead to a casters leg getting waxed which I'm down for I don't know
There may be some other casters doing as well, but at least I will
Do that one and then beyond that we've got more
We got more stuff and we'll maybe have to add more milestones at this pace
It's been very generous so far. So thank you everybody who has chosen it to donate already
You know, it's even more exciting than the concept of our donation goals slowly. Oh now they're gatekeeping
We have looking forward to in terms of the snake costume. We are back in mythic plus the achieves in the group finder. Yep
Looking for plus 10 fast slam
Any plus 10.
He's not picky.
So this is a cracky stone quest group.
Yeah, he's just trying to get the myth crests out of the cracky stone that he just got.
Although yeah, you could even do a plus 2 for that, but yeah, plus 10 may be also generating
a little bit of loot.
Will he get their myth crest too?
Yeah, I guess the myth crest.
I imagine they're not cats since they've probably only done the last two balls.
Yeah, last two give them...
Well, I know they've done keys.
They were doing keys yesterday.
They were doing keys yesterday.
So maybe they would have gotten them from those, but maybe this character didn't
do its full allotment.
True, you have to keep in mind that since they're probably doing, in theory they're doing myth
explets, they probably have to gear multiple characters, right?
That's right, yeah.
Probably got a cappa on a few guys.
Yeah, it's interesting because the myth crests don't do anything until you have a myth
track item to put it into.
Or you choose to craft.
But you can craft with the ones that you already get from the week, right?
You don't need the overcapped ones until you have something to do with them.
Yeah.
Imagine they're gonna spend a large portion of time if their goal is myth exploits
Not only doing the bosses that they missed for specific trinkets and things like that
But they're gonna go and get the myth crest that they need to craft a weapon on all these characters that they certainly had
Yeah, I'm defined, you know
I bet there will be some characters that crafted with hero crest weapons this week that will now
Recraft them with oh, yeah, same week which you know, of course, how do you know and from the start does that
He would have played things a little bit differently, but it doesn't matter for them
They're trying to just not care what atrocities have to be committed on his seventh paladin, right?
Yeah, they're only really concerned with the easier mythic bosses, too
So like, you know, they want the power for sure from crafting and being able to send it
Exactly on it, but it's not gonna be make or break for them killing these bosses at all
Hopefully it looks like journeying to King's rest
Not taking up a port taking the time ways instead. Yep. This one
I always got to take a walk after I do this dungeon
It's just like so boring. It brings my energy down to a level that like I got to get the blood pumping
You know yeah, it is a bit of a slog especially for me the part
That's the most killer is that that gauntlet of four like yes
Yes, it's a and yours there just like total buzzkill waiting for the RP of the next one activating
And then killing it off and like none of them feel good to cool down
But of course you got a CD on CD
Of course, and then the next one spawns and like it takes forever because nobody has any cooldowns
But you can't combine it with another pack and yours. They're like
When I said that they were gonna look over the dungeon
I was really hoping that they would just let all those mobs be active at once
Yeah, give you a dog or something in there. That's all we need. Yeah, I'll give it this much when
This season wasn't necessarily out yet and you're looking at the dungeon pool. I remember thinking to myself. Oh my god
This is the worst done pool. I have ever witnessed in my life. This sounds horrible. It's really not that bad
It's not bad now, you know after playing it for like a little bit
Most of these dungeons aren't super scary like you could still do your big pulls. They don't feel like they're super super super long
There's like a good selection of weekly keys, you know that go quick enough to the point. Yeah, like it's just fine
It's some dungeons or it can be a little bit dicey
You saw me yesterday in RLP. Yeah
And then yeah, and then I think temple is like the other one that can be a little bit scary
But other than that, you know, I don't think it's too bad altar
I think was like a this is a new dungeon that wasn't good knowledge diff
Yeah, and they they did nerf that one and it's a lot yeah chill now
Oh, yeah
I felt like a first grader stepping on to a middle school playground and getting kicked by eighth graders in the head
Yeah, I pulled that dungeon as a tank by its graders can be mean
Yeah, they're vicious, man.
Yeah, some of them get real big, too, bigger than me.
True.
They're out of time, too, where they develop their sense of self-worth and confidence to
the point where they don't really understand empathy yet, you know?
So they pick on the people who are smaller than them to make themselves feel better.
Oh, my God, have you ever talked to a mean eighth grader as an adult?
No.
Dude, they're so mean.
Oh, my God, they're so judgmental.
It's crazy.
They have no remorse, but also, maybe that's just me being easily bullied by children.
Yeah, well
I'm a little, yeah, okay
Alright, you have no confidence in me, that's cool
No, I'm just saying, yeah, I can see that
You can see it?
Dude, earlier, I think it was yesterday, we were talking about getting bullied as a kid
It's a desk with me, Teddles and Aya, and Teddles and her were talking about getting bullied
And they were like, you got bullied as a kid?
And I was like, no, and they were like, oh, I was like, that surprises me
You seem like you would have
like you would have.
Well, man, hashtag, what that
mean on the other monitor we have here.
Driny has gone two for two on dying
to the memory game.
And they're wiping their wiping
to the Del Boss here.
Oh, no, disaster.
That's a new low.
Oh, man, this to Dragon riding in the
the set of Oh, my goodness,
they it's at 30 percent as well.
So they actually have long.
It's so close to the end. They could clutch this up. Yeah, you can maybe win this so anarchy and valyra versus the boss
But he's kind of boss. He's gonna have he's gonna have the tank buster
So he's just gonna one-shot yeah, yeah, so I think this boss and Malayas both have this thing whereas they get lower
They get like more damage and attacks speed so it becomes harder to tank look how fast
Oh my god, he's toasting. Yeah, I don't think he's making speaking of fast
Don't you guys feel like the bosses as tanks like they move way faster this season like in the raid and all that
I like that. Yeah, I like it feel like oh, yeah, but you do like them and it's not on a warrior. Yeah on a DPS. Yeah
Yeah, I have gotten yelled at for like, where's the boss go every now and then you rip a blade storm and then it's like oh
Taking this guy on a you seen bolt the yeah, especially like vashnik, you know, you gotta just yeah
Boss in short little intervals between cast and you just see him fly away. I feel guilty doing it as a tank
But at the same time it's a necessity. Yeah, you gotta make them a last call take it up with the guy who made the snake
Dude, don't take it up with me. Yeah, dude numerous is like that as well
You're just like running around getting all the ads and you're mainly where's the boss going?
In a world where I would be playing DK and you didn't have access to riders of the apocalypse
I think I'd be screeching. Yeah. Yeah, dude. That's the saddest part for me when they announced all the DK hero talentry
I was like oh my god rider looks so cool, and then I had this moment where it's like and it's for the DPS specs and not the tank
So we've been so sick if blood had a horse. Yeah, that'd make me so happy, but also it'd be ridiculous
But it'd be so nice
I think in the last Titan they will like let you play the other ones no no absolutely not you think they will like
Build more on the other though the hero towns then no, I think we're going folio based
I think in last time we're getting like folio plus, you know
don't say that. Yeah, imagine if that's the big reveal for Last Titan. The Omnium Folio continues.
Yeah, a third choice node. That will be terrifying.
That will be. But one thing that's not terrifying, actually what might be terrifying,
given what just happened in the last Aztec, is the liquid comms right now. So let's go enjoy
those for a little bit with a monster energy listen in. During the actual member game it
it takes damage? Yeah, yeah. Oh, not before, but.
Well, it's like us.
It's like 30 seconds, but like each member game is like longer.
So it's like he takes damage for a longer period of time.
Like the first one, I think you'd like to do them for like maybe like five seconds
and then the next other ones you get to like longer.
Yeah, if there's something playing paper and a fucking thunder, no fucking blossom, it's kind of a...
I press the viscerate on that ad and it fucking... it's like 80% of itself.
Yeah, is that no glove? Is that standard?
Yeah, it's standard.
Diamond.
Diamond.
Inner class busted me?
Star.
Star.
Uh, single?
Ah, I can't speak action. Diamond.
Star. Star.
Nice. Nice and easy.
Do we all see our own bubbles?
No, I'm not sure.
What do they do?
Damage. Damage. Damage.
Oh yeah, sometimes I just spawn in the middle of the room for some reason.
That's a real fun one-time-one spawn directly on my head.
Boom, that's up.
Oh, what?
Didn't die.
No crit, did he?
Oh no, not the achievements.
Diamond?
Circle.
Circle?
Sark, then Diamond again, then Circle, and then Moonlast, oh Diamond F, what did I die
to?
Oh that's the puddle, it one takes you?
When you have a lot of stacks, yes.
Like the other thing.
Yeah, because if you get hit by the memory game, it's 500% nature damage.
Oh, is it because I cloaked the memory game to kill that?
I guess I had the amp from that.
I got five crests.
automatically gives you the other ones, like it's in your Crest Hub?
Okay, so open again.
I can do one more.
Do you have a group enter key?
You can message me.
Let us go.
Let us darkness fill you.
Thousands of years ago, a blood
contained almost white out in Zandalah.
As the dead children of the Templars,
goblins were constructed to dispose
of the diseased bodies.
And sure, it will have no problem
disposing of you.
Oh
You only need to 80
You know 20
120 your man
Wait, I also you're gonna kill me bosses anyway, so oh yeah, yeah from the
The delt thing right
And what was the other good power
City is about him
See you there so yeah, oh I clicked the latex gift. Oops. Oh good
And in cities when I'm just adds a poison so you can keep getting the sex or the other
thing, I think.
Where the markers, I forget.
It also does very good.
Star, circle, and then moon, I think.
Okay, ready when you guys are?
ready
Kind of just pulled that'll be perfect for a long yeah, it's perfect. Yeah
Welcome back to the race
to world first
Here at the Alienware training facility where we've reached our
our $20,000 charity goal, and our cosplaying as some bosses.
I'm Drawnos joined by Atlas and Jeff.
Hi guys.
Hey.
Hello.
Oh sorry, I'm speaking through my hand snake.
Yeah, and I'm a big snake.
You look magnificent, Drawnos.
Can I just say?
Incredible.
Yeah.
Yeah, they came out there like we got a large and a medium and a small, and
I'm in the large.
You picked the large without even a second thought.
Yeah, it's on point.
I was like, yeah, I can do it.
But then you're like, yeah, I'll take it.
Yeah, let's get it.
You know what I've been working out, you know?
You look able to slither in ways
that I did not believe that you were capable of.
Look, it's good that you've got working hands
as this very large snake.
Yeah, and I got my tail here.
Look, I can shake my tail around a little.
Oh, you're moving that thing.
Oh, yeah.
I'll be shaking it, you know?
I'm really curious what the $35,000 snake cosplay is.
We have upgraded versions of these for the $35,000.
Drantnos is in such a large snake costume that his head is out of frame half the time.
This reminds me of something like your costume.
Can't think of what it is.
You can vaguely make out your face in that center.
It's like...
What do you mean, my face is up here?
What do you mean?
Oh, oh yeah, yeah, that's true.
And I've got something growing out of my head.
Yeah, you've got a magical head.
I've got like...
You're sprouting a snake.
This is my buddy, Charles.
Charles is my name.
That's who you named it?
Yeah.
Hey, guys!
I'm hanging out today.
I'm ready for some splits.
Well, dang!
I I'm just being constricted by this guy who has yeah, you learning the blood flow is gonna be very limited
Yeah, yeah, he's gonna choke you out and then he's constricting me. Yeah, he's constricting you that's what they do
They can
And I don't like how close he is to me because you feeling threatened. He's he might be coming for me next his teeth are like
Yeah, they're like daggers, bro. I can't wait for more splits. Oh, you know split mythic split
Hey man, just leave my buddy alone.
This could be like an episode of Sesame Street, you know what I mean?
I can animate this and be like...
Well, the Raiders are really looking forward to a bunch of splits coming up, so stay tuned!
Ah man, you're pretty scary.
You better get away.
Oh, it's so hard to control this thing's time though.
I know.
Hi guys!
I'm here too!
I'm on my way!
I feel like my snake would be a little subtle.
It looks like he's about to do the Makarana.
Hang on, let me get my arms a little more into this thing.
See if I can look a little bit more serpentine.
A little bit less humanoid.
No, it kind of is luring me now.
Dude, now I'm like a T-Rex look with a short arm.
Half T-Rex, half snake.
You look like a temple of Cinderella's ball.
Yeah.
you're doing with your fingers it looks like you're like antsy to grab something
that's what they like with them yeah yeah that's good man thank you you too thank
you how about you how you feeling I feel amazing I love this snake that's on
my arm I feel like this is the essence of the snake that I've been given yeah
This is the this is what the voice you're going with. Yeah, this is what I'm going to be doing the entire rest of the shit
Guys, I'm gonna I'm gonna be real with you. I'm starting to get a little bored
I'm watching these reels
I don't like the dels or the
Or the splits you said your guys name is Carl Charles Charles. Well, you can call them Carl
They call me Carl down in Virginia now. Oh, come on Carl. Just think of all the fun
We're gonna have later in the day
We're going to be killing lots of mythic bosses.
We're going to get a lot of loot.
Well, Snake, whose name I don't know, I don't really think that it's going to be that fun,
but I'll hold out.
I'll hold out because at least the stream is really good.
Yeah, and thanks for donating to our charity partner, UNICEF, which made all this possible.
And I don't know why this guy has got his hand around my neck, but you know, it's, uh, I need the support.
My nose is starting to itch.
Brad knows you want me to help him a little bit with that.
I could slither my way into that suit and help you out.
I don't think you could. I think it's over for me.
I think our buddy here is getting the vapors.
I don't know why we went all southern.
I can't reach.
reach okay all right got a good scratch it we're in a key this is the same key
that you start by the time really flies we're already halfway through this key
yep well he did say quick bang on his key true so
clam rather you know he meant it he only grabbed players that were
available to him to accomplish that goal quick bang King's rest you know
King's Wrist is pretty fast if well you know actually I don't really don't know
what you can do to make it much faster than it already is you kind of just
sprinted down yeah you just kind of run it down that's you know the that's a
part of it like being boring that I talked about that uh that it's you know
just not there's not much freedom in the in the dungeon so I mean yeah I think
King's wrist sucks a lot! I don't like doing it either!
Yeah, maybe either! This dungeon stinks!
It's got no big poles! It's got nothing redeemable about it whatsoever!
This last boss you think it's fun because it's cleave, but he just makes you run around all over the place.
No, I agree, I agree.
What is your guy's name?
Um...
Hey buddy, what's your name?
Eugene!
Oh, Eugene!
Eugene the snake.
Yeah. Yeah. It's an unfortunate name.
That's Charles. Yeah, you G.
That sounds like a stupid name.
You want to fight, Charles?
You kind of do want to fight, Charles?
You some bumpkin from Alabama?
You want to fight, Charles?
You're sitting on top of this
for the last man's head.
You sound like you married your sister.
You look like you're sad.
You look like you're about to cry all the time.
You started to get a little too mean.
So I'm, I'm, well, let's just focus on the stream.
Yeah. How about you go slither back into your corner,
but well how about you slither
i don't know
slither somewhere else get out of here
uh-huh this little punk thinks he's tough
but little does he know i'm the top snake
around here
now you look like you're having them
your hands full you got you look like
your tails full trying to constrict
that that that big hunkie man
you look like you're dead you can't
You can't even move nowhere!
You're stuck! You're a fix to this man's head!
This is just how, this is just the way I am.
This is just how I was.
And you know what? I still make it work.
I still put in the work and I still grind every day.
You don't know nothing about grinding!
I grind every day when you do what I do.
You aren't in the doers like me!
A guy like me?
You don't know nothing.
I know plenty of things.
Anyway...
I can't wait to be had a split! Oh my god!
Dude, we gotta do some practice on Moon Guard for the next year to get the role-playing muscles set up.
I am Eugene the Snake.
That was really awkward. What was wrong with these snakes?
The snakes are very weird. I'm sorry you guys have to deal with that.
That's shut up, man! I'm done part of this!
I am a snake, and I am my owner to be true.
ornery man but I'm chill chill chill out bro I don't talk to me about chilling
who ever is chill is I need to work on my mobility holding up myself right now
it's really cramp in my arm and by my arm I mean the rest of my body cuz I am
an individual of my own well Eugene that's cuz you don't work out that's
the problem I'm just gonna take a nap real quick y'all handle this real
Quick.
Thank goodness, man.
Dude, that guy was obnoxious.
He wouldn't shut up.
Neither.
He was also rude to Charles.
He was crying all the time.
Charles was like, I don't blame him.
He's just a nice fella hanging on your head.
You know, he's got a nice shape to him and everything.
This guy is just whining and, you know,
he should be happy to be here.
No, yeah.
Enjoy the race for what it is.
Yeah.
You know, eight days of splits, that's OK.
Yeah.
They're trying to pass the time and it's not worse.
But there've been worse races before
Like what?
Okay, I feel like last last year's is like up there. Yeah, but like there was okay
Here's the cope right last year seemed like it was gonna be awful and then it was saved by a great myth again boss, right?
That's true. Yeah, so that could still happen this time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That could be really really cool
You know, I guess we'll find out in seven days time listen last year
you guys had that day where like there was literally nothing happening and you
like filmed like a little fun segment for it with with the Raiders yeah I feel
like as soon as you have a day like that where you just do nothing it's you
know that's about the lowest of the low yeah there's like the Monday right
where they finished all the splits there was just nothing there was
actually nothing to do except wait for March on Keldonast open yeah we got
to play ping pong for a little bit and just walking around hanging around
there was that one race where you guys got to play ping pong because the
The power went out.
Ah, there was a lot of races that just played ping pong because I wasn't doing anything else.
Yeah.
A lot of interesting stuff happening every tier with this guild.
I think we broke the ping pong table though.
Oh no.
It's on its last legs.
Every single time we come to one of these races we play on the ping pong table and
somebody inevitably reaches too far, falls on it and collapses the whole thing.
The last time we were playing on it, it collapsed and four screws fell out of it.
And we have no idea where they go.
So it's just four, it's down four screws.
Okay, I think I figured out a little bit what was happening with THD, because I just saw him
unlock his first dungeon vault on this character.
So this must not have been one of the ones that was doing dungeons yesterday.
Yeah.
It must be a character that, because I bet he probably got the cracked keystone as
one of the first things on Tuesday on most of them, most like many of the characters
at least.
I know THD, you know, because he only plays on one account, it's kind of hard
for him to multi-box and gear stuff, simply out of principle, he just sits there
and does it all one by one?
Something inex...
It's not really describable. It's inexplicable.
It has not been to fire it up in Driny in this Del Boss.
How are they still here?
They are there too many now with Valera and they have been wiping.
What is going on?
Over and over. I just...
I keep seeing this on the second monitor and they just die over and over.
I don't know what's happening, but Astrak is just...
It's giving it to him.
Dude, he is farming him.
Yeah, Driny in the... the prots back here.
I'm curious what's going wrong. Let's find out.
Yeah, we've got the first of these combos, memory game combo. Looks like they've got it this time.
They've got all the markers on the add-on as well. So moon diamond, orange, moon, orange. Pretty easy combo.
Mean this is
Robot in the air yeah, remember if there's ever anything you're not good at and wow it's not a you problem
It's a you don't have the right add-ons installed problem
There's always a way. There's always the best tool for the job. Yeah
And turns out the best tool for the job is a guy who codes that's right
Has always been true, but I think
perversely never more true than now because all because we course is like
gone a lot of stuff doesn't work the first way that you try it having somebody
who like knows all the different ways to make things work a lot more likely that
you'll be able to get a working out on for these different things have you
guys or have you guys ever logged on like a classic version of the game
recently having adjusted to not having we course and then open up the week
course options that does work on those games oh yeah well putting up
I think it would be a jump scare for me. I've been logged on classic since I have completely lost my week or is literacy
I opened it up on on mop classic just for funsies one time and I was just staring at it like eyes glazing over not knowing
What was going on? It was crazy. It just it came and went so fast. Yeah, then I then I longingly
Put my hand on my monitor and you know, yeah as if I would never see it again. Mm-hmm. Well now I just have a
a shrine in my closet dedicated to the smear. You know, got a couple candles in there. I've
got his picture up in a nice little frame with some flowers and he takes care of everything
that I could ever want.
Yeah, the Ellesmere UI. It's got to be the most universally adopted UI in a short period
of time, like ever.
Yeah, I've never seen an atom blow up like this in such a small window. I mean, you
You know, I had a lot of problems with add-ons at the start of this expansion because there
were quite a few different add-ons and add-ons suites that were like, you know, oh, this
is going to be the workaround.
And then like the developers like, oh, wait, this is way too much work and like way more
than I thought that I would be, you know, getting involved with.
So I'm not updating it anymore.
And so I was like, oh, you know, maybe Ellesmere, it'll be the same thing.
But he made it very clear that this is something he lives for this, you know, this is going
to be his major contribution to the community and there's like three updates every day.
Yeah, you walk in in the morning, you check your wow up and it's always like, it's got
a little tune next to it and there's one item that's updated and another one is always
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so he like he's totally in a different you know, he's in a different class
I feel like he you can pretty safely assume that your Ellesmere UI add-on will be updated with love and care
Yeah, it's awesome. I've been very very happy with it. Yeah, I'm great
I actually really look forward to update
Because a lot of times it's like not even just a minor update. It's like oh we included a brand new feature
you know so and he has like a challenge discord with like a feature request so
I'm trying to think of things maybe I can put in there I'm not sure just yet he's
a man of people the people's champion he is a people's champion for sure much
like the Rock Dwayne the Rock Johnson you look so lovely with Charles on your
head I will say don't say his name too much he's gonna come back and he this
guy does nothing but complain you're not rocking with Charles listen Charles
I'm happy to support him, but he's a buzzkill for sure. He's a little bit wimpy. Yeah, he's a little bit of wimpy
He's very defensive. Yeah, he really you know he's got a lot of he's got an inferiority complex really
Yeah, I'm really not rocking with Eugene either. He's just a bully. Yeah, like he's unnecessarily rude
Yeah, all snakes have a little bit of venom to them
That's true that true science that's not I think they're there quite a few non-venomous names slay a garden snake even
Yeah, you know a little yeah, I mean
Yeah, who's gonna fact-check you on that? Well a chat will fact-check me for sure. Yeah, also. We just fact-checked you
Yeah, you guys also fact-check me first global. Oh, not who?
Yeah, but other than that and no one else we might have the delve boss time. Yeah, we've done the memory game
and perfectly all three times on this hole.
Just got to make sure to not grief
and forget to kick or something.
No, that would be funny.
Yeah.
Do you guys remember the Brawlers Guild?
Yeah.
That was awesome.
My favorite time was when it first came out in Muff.
And after our farm raids, we would
go to the Brawlers Guild and watch people do it in white.
Yeah.
That would be so cool to be.
Imagine if you could do that with Mythic Raid.
There was just a button. It would have been so perfect in Undermine, Liberation of Undermine tier.
There was just like a room in the casino you could go to where you just like get to see guilds,
progging bosses and like bat on whether they're gonna kill it or not.
Or in the dome, you know? In the dome, yeah. In the dome, you could go and watch them do the uh...
Call it a carnage. Call it a carnage, yeah. Oh my god, yeah. That'd be great, yeah.
That'd be sick. That'd be so fun. Yeah, I feel like that's like one thing that's missing is uh,
like a spectator angle, like the ability to spectate people do stuff.
Yeah, I mean, of course that's the core idea behind how exciting that is is why the race world first is so cool
But being able to do it in game with just like every guild would be so fun
Yeah, imagine being able to just be in game and watch the racer world first. Yeah, you know
That'd be sweet pull up to the Orgrimmar lane cafe. Yeah, you know
That would be awesome
I bet it would be it'd be great for like getting people, you know interested in these different guilds as well
Yeah, if there's a blizzard dev out there listening and you need a passion project
I got this is an idea for you right here. Yeah, you work on this on the side
Maybe maybe someday we'll get something you know what they should do which would be so cool is
Whenever world first is claimed by any single guild outside of the rate entrance. They should have put a banner with the guilds logo
Oh the remainder of the season
Yeah, I really liked there was the two raids in dragonflight where the first kills dropped the legendary
Yeah, that was so cool. Yeah, that was cool. That felt like such a you know MMO
Thing yeah to do. Do you think we'll get a legendary this expansion? I didn't get one last one
I think so you think so maybe the last patch of it. Yeah, it's been a while now
Yeah, we need a caster one not since dragon play. Yeah, you know what?
I thought two legendaries which is pretty I feel like a very uncommon in a while since we've had a two-handed strength legendary
I think that
Okay, since I swear like cataclysm, I have been waiting for like a shield legendary
Oh, yeah shield legendary. I think would be really cool. I'm good off that. No, come on man
I just swapped the tank. I don't like playing the shield tanks. Listen bro
Blood decays were able to use a two-handed legendary weapon. So why can't shield guys?
You know, you're right. We should make it a one-hander. No, it should not be one-hander because then you'll see
Frosty case wield it. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I don't want that
It needs to be a shield legendary I feel like the casters have been kind of underrepresented for a really long time
You know they kind of deserve one they still have one though like we haven't had like a
Real tank legend like a legendary that is for tanks and since when
Like
We could maybe thunder fury. Yeah, but like the yeah, it's aren't all made equal, right?
You're just gonna selectively pick a couple of tanks that could use it. That's true. Yeah
I mean, that's just how it is
Imagine being a vengeance DH player and then you just see this nice little orange orange shield
That is how it is, bro. Yeah, it is how it is. Yeah, cuz Valinir all the healers could use it right back then
That was like the healer legendary. Yeah. Yeah, I wonder if you could make a tank one
I guess you yeah, there's no like overlap, right? Like it would just be a common piece of gear and then everybody could use it
You know jewelry or yeah, but a legendary jewelry is so boring unless it's yeah, I feel like every time it's been done
It's like yeah legendary jewelry. I guess the wad ring was maybe the coolest of those. Yeah, the cool
Yeah, I mean that was not even just the coolest. It was probably also the most OP
Yeah, that was why it's because it like when you press that you felt it
Yeah, the concept is really cool to where it's like you activate the cool down for everyone else
It's very like Final Fantasy break like limit break. Yeah, it was a very very very cool concept
You ever had someone miss the ring? Yeah, they pop it
Yeah, and you just want to grab them and dump their head in a toilet. Yeah, I remember okay
I remember doing a sail runs for heroic and you know how like you can basically pull all the trash before like Tyron Valari
So we did all that we popped the ring and then we died bomb the boss with it
Afterwards, yeah, it loses like half its HP in a single global. It's really sick
I mean speaking of tank legendaries the tank legendary ring was sick. Yeah, so cool
It was like a 50% damage amp and then it was a spirit link between you and the other tank. Yeah. Yeah, it's awesome
They need cool effects like that.
Yeah, it was very cool.
Role-based cool effects like that, like a little limit break.
Yeah, it was like, basically, Lord of the Rings meets Final Fantasy limit break.
The one ring.
Would you want something like that back again as the next Legendary or no?
I think redoing that whole thing would be lame.
Yeah.
But I think like it would, we could, you know, add a little bit of flavor to the season
Season by having some kind of legendary effect like that that is like root-based. Hear me out. They bring back the heart of Azeroth except now
It's a legendary like that
next batch
The only heart of Azeroth the azureta ability that I felt cool using is the Kamehameha beam
Oh, yeah, though not what the one that everybody was using like this out of the season. Yeah
Yeah, the focusing iris focusing iris. It's very cool
Yeah, don't really cool ones there like when you're playing mage and you use the lucid dreams and your cooldown window
which is like crazy mode.
That was awesome.
Yeah, it's really funny because I think when they first came out,
really did not like them.
And then they kind of just grew on you.
They made like a major change right between season two and three in BFA.
What was it?
Account-wide Essences, it was nice.
Yeah, that was nice.
But I thought there was something that like,
maybe I'm just thinking of the system itself because, you know,
prior to the Azurite Essences there was really not much to the part of Azur off.
It was you had your one trait Azurite gear and old year and then in Baud you had two traits
you had two rings with Azurite on them and then in Eternal Palace they came out with the essences.
Yeah, essences. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Looking back it was actually really cool. It was a really cool idea.
Yeah. One ring Azurite trait, two ring Azurite trait.
I'm telling you that Folio is getting an extra row.
Exactly.
Don't tell me oh two row two rofolio dude get high try on more pages in the book
You heard it here first patch 12 point 1.7
Omni and folio revamped. Oh
No, I've got a vision for the game that is horrible and doesn't make any sense
But I would love to see it happen. You're hired
Have a way we could do splits for an extra week. I'm assembling a team. Hmm
If you guys have to design one spec within the game right now that has no precedent of previous ideas, like no tinkers, right?
And a new class or new spec?
Another, a whole class.
A whole class.
Yeah, what would it be?
Like nothing that's low hanging fruit that people have proposed countless times already.
What would you pick?
We're like a bureaucrat you just like a politician. Yeah, yeah, you're just there and you like you
You're just like CC the enemies you just like bury them under like paperwork, you know
Yeah, okay
What would the what would come in a murder row and you're just like checking whether the you know the place has a business license to operate there
Oh, yeah, true. Yeah. Okay. And then what would its gameplay loop be?
Well, you got a couple different specs, right? You've got like the tax collector,
you've got like the motor, eight-way president, you know. Okay, purely DPS? Yeah, yeah, I think so.
Okay, but that makes sense. It'd be hard to make a bureaucratic healer. Yeah, you can do a tank,
maybe, you know. You could do a tank. You're like distracting them, right? It's like you're,
you know, under years of like, frivolous lawsuits or something like that. Yeah.
Yeah.
Can be fun.
Ooh, and the very speedy plus three on the murder road.
Or imagine this, the tank spec is the filibuster.
Ah, yeah.
Yeah, and your rotational ability is directly dependent on how long you can talk.
Yeah, could be good.
It kind of like shuffle for a monk, keeping that up.
Yeah, it's like it uses Blizzard voice chat, and the second you stop talking, your head
starts raining.
We don't have any integration with that yet.
Yeah.
What about you, Jet?
Have any ideas
Any fun little cook no cuz I kind of started daydreaming in the middle of what you guys are talking about
So I don't really understand the context of what is we need to make a new class, but it can't be one of the like tinker or bar
Okay, any of the ones that that you know top 10 suggestions of a new class top 10 suggestion of a new class
Like something a novel like a like a barista class. Oh, okay
You know you like make like little coffees and stuff like that and yeah, it could be a healer kind of misweaver coded
Yeah, yeah, give them drinks and then you can have like a PI type of ability where like you write the name of the player in your group on the cup
Yeah, and the deck gives them like a buff. Okay, so it's like more support oriented. Yeah
Yeah, like something with like an AUG style speck and a healer style speck. Yeah kind of thing
Yeah, could be good. Maybe you're mixing the ingredients together or something
You got like an empower bar where you're filling up how much how many pumps of sugar you're putting in and you know
Too much and it's bad and too little and it's bad you need to actually like empower to it. Hmm. Yeah
Yeah, I think that's a stupid idea. Oh, no, what up? Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh
My god. Oh my goodness. I'm shaking. What what what the hell was that?
All right, well
I think something could be a little bit better. You can be doing this
Charles
What the hell do you want Eugene? I don't approve of the way this man is treating you we should pop back
Oh, you're playing nice all of a sudden, huh?
Well a snake kind of have to stick together and I do not approve of what these casters are doing
Well, I got there's nothing I can do. I'm stuck on this guy's head
I can free you I got nice long fangs and I can bite his head and maybe sever you for me
those fangs would break faster than a
the, the, the, the, the wind in a, in a, in a, in a, in a guy's pants.
Charles, what kind of wind are we talking about? You laying some stinky ones?
Oh, of course. That's exactly what I'm getting at. You ruined the joke.
My fault? Well, either way, even though we're fighting again, I think we should take these casters out.
Well, we'll talk about that in the back rooms.
Yeah, we really need to find a way to recruit that biggin. He is a big boy. He could be some serious muscle.
I think they deflated his ass. I'm a little deflated right now.
I don't think he's gonna be any help.
We gotta find a way to break him out.
I'm molting.
I'm gonna be useless for a bit. I'm moulting over here.
Ah, they've moulted his ass to death.
There's nothing we can do now. It's just the two of us, Eugene.
Speaking of wind breaking in the man's pants, we gotta find some way to break some wind into that suit of his.
Oh, no.
Well, we gotta... we'll figure something out.
If anybody in Chad's got an airpump they're willing to land for a couple of snakes in need, let us know.
I'm envisioning that there might be some audio only listeners that have been used in your
car first audio playing you for the last like 20 minutes you know what has been happening
What is the context where any of this would have made sense?
This is what happens when you involve Charles in anything.
You guys shouldn't have asked him for his thoughts on this.
On the new class, yeah.
Yeah, that's why I gotta slap him up a little bit
to keep him in line.
Because he gets a little too much.
He didn't have to be mean to me,
I've been saying that idea was stupid.
The guy can barely string together a sentence.
You have no reason to be mean.
He's just not good off the cuff.
It's a complete incompetent snake.
Well, I guess I deserve that but you know you give what you take and sometimes I take some punishment
It's just downright nasty. What's the things that are being said here you guys watching from home?
You don't know what goes on behind the camera drag knows especially this guy. He's meaner than the meanest
That's not true. That's not true. Nobody would ever believe you
Oh, just trust me fellas. Just trust me
Think twice before you go and watch those recaps every night with him and Teddles.
Think twice, promises he's not as nice as he seems.
It's true the casters have their own gang building, they're calling it the beefy five.
Sometimes they put us in a closed space and make us fight.
I don't want to fight, but they keep doing it.
And then the big one with the pony tail, he keeps eating Taco Bell and I don't still like
it because he's always farting afterwards.
It's terrible.
These casters are running the muck.
There's TikToks being made everywhere.
They're constantly ordering food at like 12.30 a.m.
It's ruckus in here.
And the quiet one with the glasses, he keeps asking me for nicotine powders, I don't
I don't got any!
I don't got any!
There's something sinister about these folk!
It's just not right.
Something not right about them.
And we got a physical abuse of one right here.
He just keeps hitting Charles.
Yeah, I just keep getting hit.
It's a little bit of a Stockholm syndrome situation
because sometimes I feel like I understand.
I understand.
The castor room from what I hear by the way is just a complete fridge.
They got the thermostats at like 60 degrees in there.
Yeah, that's how they get you.
They get it down real cold.
We can't be standing in the cold temperatures like that.
The room is as cold as their hearts.
That's true.
It's true.
But we can't be speaking more on this or I'm gonna get hit again.
Yeah.
I don't want to.
I don't want to get that.
We gotta go through the back channels chat.
We need your help.
I don't want to get that back hand again.
from jet, he's too violent! Oh shit, everybody's just back natural. He's here.
What's going on?
I'm not really quite sure, I just keep hearing these whispers in the back, you know?
Yeah. You better watch yourself, buddy.
And my snake that is constricting me lovingly is just frozen in place and can't move,
is slightly twitching for some reason.
Yeah, he's shaking.
He's shaking, yeah.
He's shaking.
It's hard for him to stand completely still for some reason.
Well, imagine being a snake and you're
like used to being able to constrict anybody
and then you run into atlas' just beefy chests,
you know, 400 pounds lean muscle there.
Just completely get-owned as a snake.
I'm 400 pounds.
Lean.
A lean 400.
Oh my god.
Yeah.
I'm a lot more dense than I thought.
Yeah, that's what the snake found out.
I tried to condense you, but you're already completely compressed in the air.
Every single space between where there usually is some air, it's just more muscle.
What's it gonna do?
I don't know whether to feel flattered or insulted.
That's what I was going for.
He's going for a little bit of a who knows what's going on in the guy's head.
Not me.
Yeah, I feel like that's been the theme of the past at least hour, if not much more.
I'm really nervous about the upgraded snake costume.
Yeah, so again, for anybody joining and confused, first of all, you're not alone.
It's a reasonable reaction to two events.
If you're confused about why they're still doing splits, yeah, it sucks.
We're going to be, things are going to get weirder as well,
but it's not splits for a bit.
It's mythic plus for a bit, and then things are getting even weirder here.
So I'm worried tomorrow is going to be as weird as it gets it's gonna it's gonna get strange for a little bit
But freakish rest assured that we're getting a couple I love a lot of this so it's all worth it
It's all worth the weirdness and if you're wondering what else has been weird is that we reached our $20,000 charity goal
And I've been willing to
Do anything that anything you guys want for charity and that in this case meant
boss cosplays
Which this tier is snakes, so
So joining the long line of, remember, cams is Zalatath?
Mm-hmm.
Nice one.
Yeah.
Well, that wasn't cams, that was just Zalatath.
Sorry, yeah, Zalatath.
And yeah, if we get to $35,000, we have upgraded snake costumes, which I struggled to know
how they could get any better.
Yeah.
These ones.
But apparently, it's a high bar, for sure.
At $25,000, we will have a fun PowerPoint presentation as well, but don't worry, it's
even more exciting than it sounds.
at the Powerpoint presentation.
Keywork being random.
How about the content of the Powerpoint?
Well, we don't get to know until we...
Yeah, I know. The anticipation. You guys got to donate so we get there.
Yeah, and if you send in $30 or more, first of all, if you send in any amount,
it's being matched right now by Arkon, by Warcraft Logs, so that is very cool.
And if you send in $30 or more, we will take a look at your transmog, or your pet, or your wow house.
So, if that's incentive enough to get you over the line interested in donating,
Jet, I know you sent in your TransMog guest and got a little bit raided by the casters.
Really? Not raided. Not raided. Just a stylistic choice.
Yeah, constructively criticized, perhaps.
I said it was a great Mog.
At least you have to be able to take it if you ditch it out.
I'll even give you the opportunity to.
I'm going to donate and have my Mog get raided on broadcast.
I'll give you the opportunity to be the one to take it.
Are you going to submit the ones you've already shown me?
I know what your guy looks like before I hand it to you, you know?
That is true.
Yeah.
But I'm proud of my mocks.
I think they're great.
Yeah, they're pretty good.
It would be unfair of me to criticize your mock without the opportunity for you to
criticize mine.
But are you going to feel bad when I don't criticize them because I think they're
good?
No, you just have to speak to what's true in your heart.
What if that is the truth in my heart?
Then that's totally fine.
Okay.
That's ongoing.
And you won't feel bad for having been more harsh towards his?
No, I just spoke to what was through my heart, which is, it's a fantastic mug.
I just personally don't like the shoulders as much.
No, maybe it was.
Okay, yeah, that's fine.
You couldn't even name where they were from when I quizzed you.
Well, I wouldn't want to know where they're from because, again, I did not particularly enjoy them.
All that much.
Okay.
They fit the set.
Okay.
They just had a weird shape to them.
That's fine.
You're taking this all sorts of things.
No, no, I'm taking it fine.
Yeah, I'm not mad.
I'm not mad.
This is like when you have a partner and you say something wrong and they're like,
no nothing's wrong no I'm taking it fine okay I'm taking it great are you sure
usually do yeah I'm taking it okay great okay I feel tense is everything okay
just my word is everything okay yeah okay you sure yeah all right actually the
true trigger what's going on here is I'm watching a den of Nalorack and I've
been here for quite some time myself what you've been looking for from this
place. Well I got one piece of the loot which was a plate chest and I'm looking
for plate gloves crit haste gloves that really need those to catalyze you know
as the new calo system you got them cunt for certain pieces with the good
sats on them and turn them into a tier. Yeah the M-plus grind is a little bit
longer than usual this year because of that if you want fully optimal setup
which of course a lot of players do. Yeah I got a belt from here also which
which actually does not have good sats.
And because of the Call of System, I can't really use it.
I gotta go get the real belt from King's Rest.
Yeah, that's right.
I think that's where the best belt for me is.
I will say this is one of the lower ranking dungeons
for me at this pool.
Really?
Yeah.
I don't mind this place.
Doing the first trash room area feels like
entering Helen Willingley.
No, man.
You're heading to Lava.
It actually is like three good pulls.
I got this place down to perfect count.
My route is really good.
It's not necessarily the mob density or like the poles themselves not being satisfying. It's just like they're just spawning totems
It's all the way in the back. The totem mobs are there they can be a little bit dicey
But honestly, I really don't think they're bad you got a run with me once and you'll see it's yeah
I got it's a nice smooth ride, bro. Yeah
Yeah
You're known for that. Mm-hmm. I got some good poles in here
Yeah, so they were able to skip the trash at the start of this. Yeah, Larry
running around the sides that was nice yeah that was a nice little maneuver that's a
nice little maneuver I don't know if I can trust my pugs with that no it's even
though it's really maybe the most easy skip that you could ever do in this game
which is just to walk around to something but you know I like to do the
W routes yeah I'm a big W route guy there's actually I think this season has
quite a lot of W routes mm-hmm you can just it's like almost always fine
I'm a big like six-year-old with object permanence kind of guy when it comes to how I curate my pulls
I just see nameplates and then I gather them. Yeah, I mean I would do that if I wasn't playing with bugs
Yeah, I would do big pulls. Oh, I do it with pugs. Yeah, well, I don't trust full-pug groups
I'm just doing the most ridiculously large that was means that was me in season
one
Where I would do gigantic bulls not even carrying what the pugs thought and more often than not
I thought I was the only one alive by the end of the poll.
And I'm like, what's going on?
What are you guys dying to?
Sometimes you got to forge their willpower.
I'm not trying to provide a community service.
Oh, it's not a service.
Well, I'm subjecting them to torture.
Well, if you're forging their willpower,
you're helping them get better.
I'm introducing a little friction into their lives
that they weren't ready for.
Me, it's just the in and out.
I got to get out of here.
I know I'm not getting what I need so I got to get into the next group
Yeah, I kind of got a lot of those dungeons per hour right especially oh, yeah trying to get geared for you know
Ulotec this week for instance. Oh, yeah, it's gonna be a
That'll be us a movie. We're starting our Ulotec and quad ultra progression tonight. Whoo
Yeah, I got I got to finish Ulotec tonight. Yeah, did we do one last night and got two more to do today?
Oh boy, that was a very fun very interesting fight. Yeah, I actually I think it is really cool
It's a sick fight. It's got a lot of interesting ideas behind it
Yeah, it feels like the last phase on mythic is gonna be something else
Yeah, I was thinking like the more and more I've seen her like a little text now
It feels like at least for heroic. It's kind of all in on the last phase
Yeah, cuz you just you need to survive the last phase of the real life like there's no two ways about it right now
Eventually, you'll have enough damage with the extra burns that it's like you can probably get over the finish line without it
But that's right now. You basically need to have you know, 25 alive into that last burn
Yeah, I think phase one and two are kind of like a coordination check. Yeah
It's more like, you know, can you do the mechanics that are presented to you? Yeah, there's not too much like of a
Oh, yeah, you got a spread and you gotta be really game. That's phase three
Phase 3 very gamer phase the the eight-minute overlap where you are moving
from the three platform section to the two platform section while finishing the
Venom Suck and the spread. Yeah I think that's probably the thing that caught me
the most off-guard in terms of like why heroic is difficult but Venom Sucks give
you almost no sense of leniency. No if everybody is alive you still only
have a couple of seconds to spare and if even like one person is dead out of
one of those soaks, it is going to, you know,
basically, the death sentence will never get to it, which is crazy.
I would imagine, you know, they would give you some sort of lenience in terms of like,
okay, if you have everybody in there, you handle it like a good bit ahead of time.
Yeah, like 20% faster.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but this is like a bare minimum requirement is everybody's in it
from the very, very beginning.
Seems a bit much.
It does feel like one of the most likely things that will be getting
nerfed about that fight.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's rate size scaling as well.
I bet it's, I bet it's more lenient on 10 than it is on 30.
Yeah, I really would love to like do a 10 man over this whole place.
Yeah, that's something I'm thinking about more and more now
after my experience last season doing a light-blooded vanguard just for re-rolls.
I would just join like a 10 man rate. Yeah.
And I was like, huh, I wonder what the rest of this place is like.
Yeah, especially, I mean, this season, the heroic for re-rolls meta is going to be very good
because up until the last two bosses, you get mythic loot from your re-roll that is identical
to what you'd get from mythic if you spend the crest on it.
Only the last two bosses have the loot that is like better than anything you could find on a lower difficulty even with the crests, right?
Yeah, myth one out of six versus mid six out of six from the other bosses
So if you have the crest of spare, it's the same thing. Yeah
Yeah, heroic re-roll rates, I think are gonna go crazy this tier
Although I think that a little bit less than I did last week when I thought the heroic would be easy this time around
Yeah, doing heroic at least for the first few weeks. I think is going to be quite hard
Yeah, we've got a real do or die situation for my guilt tonight too because it's our last official raid day of the week
Oh, you guys gonna pot a greed an extra a Monday raid if no
That's not the guilt character. No
Zero overtime ever type thing. Yeah, so I expect it last two on her. I could get two old text down
We'd be so happy, but if not, oh, no, oh, no, I mean here's the thing for a cool attack this week is great
Mm-hmm, but as long as you get it next week, that's the first week you can bonus roll it anyways
Like you're not missing much. Yeah. Yeah, it would be just nice to have vault options. Yeah, you know and and since we are a guild that doesn't necessarily
Raid much the Curios are like the heroes are nice. Yeah, we want to actually you're got another hit of a bunch of them from normal
You know and then you can
Deploy those bonus rolls. It's a weird
Social ass and not social but like sort of mentality reset for a person like me who was in the race world first last year
And you know my expectation is week one I leave that thing with 90% of the heroic items
I would want yeah, and then entering into a guild and the expectation is you're lucky if you get two items
Yeah, kind of a thing. It's it's it's a it's a been a weird sort of
Sense of cope. I've had to instill within myself. Yeah. Well, we're still doing good. Yeah, you must it must feel like oh
This is a generationally unlucky character. Yeah, that's my sense of scale is almost here. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, because the entire race world first is all about skipping all the progression of
the gear, doing it all at once with these splits.
You'll be surprised how quickly it ramps though.
Yeah, especially with the bonus rolls starting next week.
If you're efficient with your decisions.
Luke kind of gets showered on you now in modern World of Warcraft, which is maybe
a little bit much at times, but I think the acquisition isn't also nice.
Big smile on Hopeful's face there.
He's just a smiling guy.
Yeah.
little more I'm plus on the the characters I've seen in these m pluses. I think it absolutely is
getting myth crafts on these alts to be able to set up for what one can only assume at this point
will be myth exhibits. The question is when those will happen, how much more prep
needs to happen first? Because at this point we're basically looking at how do we optimize
up until the reset, right? Yeah, it's basically the entire week has turned into a gear up week.
There's very little prospect for progression all about farming.
I would love to see Blizzard taking official stance.
They won't do this, by the way. It's entirely self-inflicted.
But I would love to see some sort of acknowledgement of the fact that these guilds are just doing
or entertaining even the idea of mythic splits repeatedly now at this point.
The context of why we did them last year was entirely different.
But now we're in a situation where you're really thinking of doing it
as a beneficial thing for you in terms of the race and it might sort of lull you into this false
at the security of like oh this is the way forward now like this is the new future of the
race for the first entire first week is just a toss up for gearing and the second week is actually
when anything exciting happens I don't think it's intentional I think it's like because it's
not for the same reason as last year right it's like the opposite reason yeah last year was
like oh it's too easy and we have this extra raid coming out in the next week so we do make
splits right whereas this year it's like heroic is too hard yeah therefore we don't have enough
time to do progression, therefore we do mid-length splits, right? It's like, we got to the same
place, but from two very different paths. And I think, you know, it's unlikely that that's
what Blizzard wanted.
I'm telling you, man, make Heroic really easy and then make the early mythic bosses like
10, 20 pullers. Then, you know, you'll get through your, your gearing splits really
quick and then you, mythic is not quite easy enough to just split the early bosses.
The problem is, for a boss to be a 20-pole boss for liquid in week one gear after splits,
that boss would be very hard for almost every other guild in the world, and mythic early
bosses are not supposed to be that hard.
I mean, you can look at it right, like XD, 30-poles on mythic lost explorers, how many
are we expecting liquid to take on that boss?
Probably at most like three.
So if we turned it into 20 for liquid, are we looking at a 300-pole boss for XD, right?
Is that something that's fair to put that early in the raid?
if Heroic's easy and there's not even like a Heroic Coiled Altar or Ulotech for them
to go do.
That's true, yeah.
I think that's the dilemma that you get to with that, but I think you can accomplish most
of it by just, you don't have to make Heroic easy, just not this hard, right?
If Heroic Ulotech doesn't require this much time to be able to kill this many times,
I think that would solve it.
And here's the thing, it's not like this would be making the game worse for everybody
else, because I'm pretty sure that most guilds are going to be fighting a nerfed
version of Ulotech anyways.
Yeah.
gonna nerf that thing next week. So the guilds that would be hurt by having it
launch in a bit of an easier state are zero. It's everybody would either
experience the same thing or better by doing that. It's really the thing
that's on my mind is if your expectation is that the race is hard,
right? Yeah. The mythic race is hard. And we live in a world where
basically every single race goes into the second week, right? Yeah. There's a
certain point where there's a threshold that the later bosses are too hard to the
point where you would get more value out of doing a bunch of splits of the
earlier mythic bosses and acquiring power on your characters that is
substantially better than just killing one or two extra bosses that are a
little bit later in the raid. So now you're in this weird stalemate
game of like what do we commit to which is mythic splits could make
everybody really powerful and it's guaranteed or we might miss out on
really good loot from later bosses that would have otherwise been killable if
had we just progressed them. But okay all they have to do is do a Sarkarath once
every like 10 tiers where he dies week one and everybody will be scared off of
doing that. Especially if you're liquid and you'd be the first
guild pulling the trigger on which decision you make. If you know
there's a change the race is over week one it's like so because imagine doing
that and then watching the boss fall like it would be the worst
feeling in the world. First mistake ever, but you don't know. That's the fun part. It's a gamble
every single time. Yeah, so like I think the only reason they feel comfortable doing it this tier
is that they do know that nobody's going to finish the raid in a day or whatever will be done after
all this gearing, so it is safe. But in most tiers, I think just the threat of the 10% chance
that it's a week one tier, because if you pull the trigger on Myth Explit and it's a week one
tier, not only have you done the least less fun thing, you've also lost badly as a result,
Like that's not only do you not compete but you like did more frappe as well
Yeah, that's that would be a hard pill to swallow
Oh dude
It would be an immediate Google search for the nearest cliff if you spent the entire week doing splits
Yeah, and then didn't get to pull the boss at all
And the reason we're okay with doing all these splits is because it lets you be competitive in the race
Right it's like because it lets you win the race world first if winning the race world first wasn't what you got on
these splits, nobody would do them, right? At least at this extent, of course, a lot
of other guilds will run a few splits, but not, you know, 14. But if you have a public
service announcement, I guess not a public service announcement. A service
announcement to specific people, users Rio and Zool Jeremy, you have submitted
broken links to review your pets and transmogs. We need an internet link.
Please reach out to a mod and resubmit. That's in chat somewhere. Get in
touch. We'll help you out. Zool Jeremy is a sick name. That is a good
That's actually so sick. Yeah feel like you could do a lot of really good like Zool Julian. Yeah
Zool John
I'm pretty sure that
People have been calling Zool John that yeah
Zool Jeff I like that one Zool hefe perhaps. Zool hefe yeah
Lots of uh, oh, I'm I'm sensing a stolen bit here
Based off of what I'm reading nice joke jet says Franca wonder wonder where you got that one
Okay, the Zool John one I got from him, but you can't just take ownership of the whole thing
No, it's true. It's and I didn't even start off with Zool John. It's an homage. I thought I was Zool Julian. It's an homage if anything
Yeah, I find
And I don't mean I do mean this to be insulting to front
But I find people who like to claim ownership of a joke and try and act like it's you know, like oh, that's my property
That's not true. Once you put it out in the world, you know, it's out there, right?
Yeah, you get it you get to tell it once and be the first person to tell it and then it's out in the world and you know
A truly funny person wouldn't feel threatened by that because they'd be coming up with more funny
That's old Josh. Yeah. Oh, there's a good one. Yeah, that one's out of chat. I'm gonna give credit for that one
I like that one right in the chat. It's old Josh
That one's good. Oh wow before before he kills me. Please pass me what I had costume guys. Thank you
Yeah, we saw you
How's it going, THD?
Me? I'm doing pretty well.
Yeah. I'm here.
I got my zenis on.
Has it, huh?
Doing some, yeah. You guys like the content today?
Oh, yeah. We're excited
for even more exciting content after lunch,
I'm sure.
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You said what?
What the hell is that?
That thing needs some zenis.
That thing needs some zenny's.
Um, Eugene the snake!
Yeah, you see my zenny's, look at what I'm looking right now. I am leaned back.
Yeah.
Relaxing.
Yep.
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Oh man.
You got anything to say about that Charles?
well I could use a pair for sure I feel like I've entered a strange part of the
desk that I'm not
a week but you're doing with it plus it's what the hell you guys like splits
talk about weird I talk about the fact that you guys almost wiped on the
delve boss yeah it happens you know sometimes you goof a little bit what's
What's going on with fired up Droney if you were in here like three weeks back to back
back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back
Dronester's one for four on living that boss
Yeah
I can understand what's going on there
Yeah and he couldn't keep back running so he killed me
Really?
We're gonna have to have to talk with Dronester
Yeah I mean Droney I don't know if he has Zennies on
He might need to put some Zennies on
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Yeah. Thank you. Get your Zenny's. Thank you, Gene. Get him. Get him. Look, maybe we
enter mythic today, guys. A few times. Oh, wow. You're saying mythic. How about, how
about we enter mythic, like, I don't know, ballpark, like more than once today? I like
the sound of that. At least once I'd be happy. Yeah, we will. All right. Thank you,
THD, thank you, Zenny.
As always, have a nice lunch.
It's great to have lunch.
It is.
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I don't know how limited the supply is,
but you can't handle them in case the mic will go.
Much like Kalamazzy's, any provides.
That's right.
So I'm not sure if there's a supply issue at all.
There could be.
If everybody in chat went and ordered one right now,
I bet we could manufacture a supply issue.
Oh, that would be so nice.
Yeah.
Give them a little prank.
Everybody walks up to the desk, 300,000 orders.
Be a fun problem for them to solve.
And we could do that for them.
Problem that we have provided.
Exactly something that we're quite good at is creating problems for others. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah
Like Charles for example Charles Charles is nothing to complain
It's all sorts of problems for me
All right, so we're seeing several raiders going to lunch breaks a little bit desynced in this time
Because of course they weren't in a raid so pretty much the rule in this case right is like you finish your key
And then you go to lunch right and you don't start another key past a certain point
Yeah, yeah, it's more of a deadline of like lunch will be over at this time
Just make sure you don't do anything that would be foolish or else. Yeah sort of situation
But you can't really enforce lunch to start at a certain time when one group has started game one just finished one
So yeah, that makes sense. It's a little bit of an interesting and you know
You're not allowed to just like skip lunch right to do an extra key time thing
You got a no gotta have your yeah, that's your brain. Yeah
You gotta you gotta feed it with some nice. Yeah trance. Yeah, I like my little corner. He's kept my lights
Does that look like a cozy little corner?
Yeah, I like the, I like Shackle as having his plate of food.
It is a desk that will start piling up.
Shack notoriously always keeps his plate by his desk and takes maybe three bites out of
it.
Yeah.
So like he'll eat it on the way there and then after that it's a cosmetic item.
A little bit of a nibbling, you know, you nibble on the food a little bit, get
the energy boost.
I like how we're projecting the logo onto the floor.
It's gone now.
Oh, not the Alienware logo.
It just does that.
Yeah, rotating.
the floor is just built like that yep and we got THD's little corner on the left side there with a
little guest appearance by my man John Pork and you know he's always there you keep in keeping
on the other monitor for good luck I miss the pro lab I'll keep it real yeah heard it's getting
absolutely molten in there this time around really yeah well it was the healer room specifically
that felt like a sauna when I went in there to say hi to them oh yeah yeah the on Monday
I went in there, I was sweating in the first global, but I heard the pro lab is looking
like or feeling like molten core in there.
I remember Nick specifically typing in one of the channels and just being like, please
help it's boiling in here.
These psychos haven't set to 78.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Caster room.
There's been some fights over the temperature in there as well.
I think the one guy that's having the time of his life is Scott.
He says it's very climate controlled in there.
Well, he's in his own little private booth.
He's got a little VIP.
He's got the VIP.
As the prime minister, he's got to have his own office.
Is this the European annex here?
This is the Healer Room.
This is the molten hot here, Healer Room.
You can see in the corner behind Seve, a couple of fans,
a couple of them, not even just one.
Yeah.
Healer plus YIPS.
Yeah.
I think the problem is that Yps and Trill, as you can see Yps is in like a hoodie, they like to stay warm, they're also under the vents.
I see.
So it's a little bit of an unfortunate placement.
Yps also comes from the far reaches of Canada as well.
Right.
So he's probably used to the cold a little bit.
Yeah, it's funny, even though he's in North America, I think it was a shorter flight for him when he went to the U-Track facility than it is to get to here.
I only played in that room once I believe it was vault. Yeah, I remember yeah
I remember that that well I was getting needed around for a little bit. I would sit in that room quite a lot
When I had some free time
Honestly in terms of ranking and in my preferences of the room ranked pretty low
Hmm, I think I like the pro lab. I think is more like it's most fun. Yeah, it's rowdy in the pro lab
Yeah, it's rowdy. Sometimes no, no smiling the pro lab. Oh no, especially when boomies first year was here and he was like
Fighting with everybody in the pro lab. Yeah days are famously at his PC break and he threatened to break days are oh, yeah
But he's he's mellowed out since you know having played a healer now. He's much more calm
Happens when you play a warrior. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's strange. Those people I know when you push them onto healer
They start getting more angry not
No, not boomy. He's willingly submissive now in his role.
Oh, submissive. Okay, well, I wouldn't take it that far.
But maybe a little bit more calm, more serene, you know?
Stockholm Syndrome'd.
Yeah, maybe.
Except for the situation that he has now found himself in.
A necessary thing for healer players, honestly.
That is true. You do have to accept your fate.
Stockholm Syndrome'd definitely a through line, among healers I know.
know. But uh, it's like, you know, some of them are just getting some keys done.
Yeah. As we see fired up on our other screen here. So this is going to be an
important thing is when people are getting back from lunch, do they go
into the next key or do they wait and not start a key so that they can then
dump, dump, dump, kind of mythic progress is the question.
Don't know I imagine more keys. I am gonna make something up and so they're gonna keep doing keys
Yeah, I I could see fire comes bottom on another screen
I could see that he's setting up and AFK carry it looks like I if I
I'm fired up AFK carry. That's what the group is called
Yeah, if I have to make it up. I'm gonna say and don't get mad at me for this
I won't don't worry. He's until dinner is what I'm thinking
And then post-dinner, maybe some mythic splits.
Yeah, you gotta get full power.
Now, how much when you're setting up a split like this,
do you make the first split more powerful than the others for like,
because you'll be less knowledgeable.
But you got to make sure that you don't get in a spot where
you can't do it in the future splits because you made them so weak.
Absolutely. You know, the familiarity is definitely a thing,
especially when their goal for these, I try and stir.
All right. Hey, real quick, what was going on in that delve boss?
Yeah, but going back to it, you definitely want the first group just a little bit smaller
or stronger, rather.
You definitely don't want to make it considerably stronger, right?
You want all the runs to be able to actually complete all their things.
Who's that boss?
So I don't have fun.
I don't have fun as well.
My buddy, Mugsy.
That's right.
Or are we supposed to just spoil that right off the rip?
No, we're supposed to guess who that boss is.
For us or for chat?
For us.
Really?
Yeah, that's what we did last time.
Okay.
Yeah, if you're in chat, you've got to figure it out fast.
Yeah, we're the three of us who's that boss. Yeah, I guess trogall's a good second
Chargall was the other option. Yeah, you can see the two heads. Yeah, but he's got the suit on yeah
Yeah, well, yeah, I mean the next closest is trogall doesn't mean this, you know, oh
That is a nine moon or Nimue or Nimue way. Yeah
Yeah, yeah from the Mirage so we're still and not that's got that right away Wow
Bang one shot. Yep. Weaver the cycle. Yep production can't keep up with us. We're too quick
We're we're way too fast imagine spending like an hour putting together a few of these and we're just like 20 seconds
That's one. Yeah, bang bang bang. Yep nice content creation
They they have to have a few obscure ones. Yeah. Yeah, yeah an old do a hard one
Give me something 19 years old and and in a random dungeon and then suddenly I'll struggle. Yeah. Oh
Yeah, if you start doing dungeons that'll that will be hard
So many of them are just like generic models. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it would be hard
Oh, there's a bunch of them. As I get up on the right, the Nefarion is the one, BWL
Nefarion.
Is the one on the bottom left-ish.
Oh, Nixie on the top left is what I'm going to guess.
Oh yeah, I think Nixie on the top left. Now, the one on the top right is a little interesting.
I think that's Kazara.
Ah, Kazara the Hellforged.
I was going to say, it's got that deathwing-shaped chin armor, but yeah, I think that is
Kazara the Hellforged.
I think that's Kazzara might not be a nixie on the top left though. It might just randomly be one of the dragons of nightmare
That was a very slender every slender guys, but does a nixie's tail look like that? Yeah, I think so
Okay, we're two out of four. We're two out of four bottom bottom left could be look at the way the wings have like tatters in them
That's why it's BWL nefarion. Yeah. Yeah, BWL nef got resurrected now. Oh, all right. No, no far
I think far right might be fire. Yeah, it could be fire. I can say that instead of the gas
Yeah, yeah, cuz that kind of proto dragon. Yeah, the horns are different. No, I think it is far
Okay, my that might not be doing the fairing that might be WL on next year. Okay. Yeah
BWD and it's a BWD BWD and next year. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, it does that work like a crest on the head as well. All right. This is this one's nice
Yeah, good one. Hmm, which one are we missing then I think for sure
Firehack we got. Yeah, we got Firehack. For sure, Kazara.
We got two to three on Firehack, so. Yeah, yeah.
Happy with that one. So...
And then, Kazara, I think we're good. I think we're good on Kazara.
Alright, hear me out. I'm going for a crazy pick on the top left.
Crazy call. Tehrar.
Tehrar! Yeah. Tehrar from Nimer Dragons?
Yeah. The problem is, is this one has a beard. You can see the beard.
Oh. So...
What was Azirgos? Was that the world boss in Azshara?
In the original classic? The one that runs around?
But I don't think Azure Ghosts had a beard.
It's giving like, what are like, horizontal?
That's what I was thinking.
But is it a raid boss or a dungeon boss?
I don't know.
I don't know what the rules are.
Who's that boss?
I don't know.
These are all raid bosses so far.
They have all been raid bosses so far.
The beard is throwing me off.
Like who's a bearded dragon boss?
It could be...
Hmm.
Hmm, what if it's the Ruby Sanctum Dragon Ruby Sanctum dry halyan halyan?
Yeah, I don't think so. Hmm. I don't know. I don't think I don't think I don't think the Twilight Dragon model had a beard
No, yeah
You write you write. Okay. What else could it be? It's just gotta be that great boss and it's the top left one. Okay
You're the dragon not the actual lizard, but the literal beard not emerus is it
Oh dude, you know who it probably is it's it's not what was the one in ICC the one you healed
Oh, the Litheria dreamwalker the Litheria dreamwalker. Yeah
Hey
Nicely done. Oh, it was naff. Okay. Yeah, it was nefarian
Pizarra and fire ack. Yeah, BWD not BWL nefaria. Yeah, yeah
Awesome not exactly a bearded dragon that you would think of no
But it did seem like an older model
Reach was good. Yeah, that was good. That's solid. I knew about that. It's good to be thinking classic E
Yeah, that was almost gonna go the second boss in BWL
About uh, that was like a draconid though, right? Oh
Bailstras, yeah, yeah, they could have been yeah, because it's actually the same model
Yeah, it is it could have been either although. I don't think the beat
I think the beard is maybe exclusive to both area. Hmm. Yeah
That was a good one. That was a good one. That was a little more tough. We got a little more tough.
We asked for a hard one and we got a hard one. Well played.
Immediately, yeah.
How many of you guys didn't chat yet?
Oh, we got another one.
Oh, black paint on the left.
Come on, guys. That one's easy.
Yeah.
Do we get any boss abilities?
Oh, that would be really fun, too.
Like, icon of a boss ability that's, like, completely exaggerated.
Or, like, just the spot the fake. That's what we did yesterday.
Oh, really?
Yeah, spot the fake ability, yeah.
Oh, I heard about that. You guys choked on Halandris, right?
That was Zyra's fault.
We Zyra so confidently picked one, then I was like, OK, all right.
He's speaking with his chest on that one.
Yeah. That was wrong.
Well, we got. Oh, Magmaw.
Yeah, I'm thinking Magmaw on this one.
What if this? Oh, OK.
Yeah, nice.
Well, I was thinking of Skolex from that would be a good one, too.
Skolex has more of like these wing things.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
A little bit of special effects.
Yeah.
What tier is Magma?
Magma was Black and Sense.
EWD.
Okay, yeah.
I didn't really rate that tier.
You could go one of two ways at the beginning.
You could go to Omnitron Defense System or you could go to Magma.
I see, I see.
Cool.
Little left.
Lava worm guy.
Very few worm based bosses.
Yeah, Dressgath kinda has was one.
But yeah, we haven't really seen a rooted worm thing in a while.
I guess it was one in EcoDome, Altani kind of.
Yeah, the first boss first boss. Yeah
But not many raid worms. Yeah in a while get worms back in the game. Yeah, it's more worms for sure
We're just going too fast, I think yeah, we're yeah, I'm pretty
Unfortunately, you picked a very knowledgeable group of three people right now. Yes, I'm old heads that know all the old bosses as well
Oh, is this the Siege of Orgammar Siegecrafter Blackies?
Is that the...
No, this one is interesting.
I think this...
Voltron?
No.
No, no, no, no, no.
This is, uh...
Sticks Bunk Junker?
I don't think it's Undermine.
Hey, there we go. This is nice.
Yeah, I got a hard one here.
Or maybe it is from Undermine.
This could be a Goblin.
Um...
Yeah, this could be a Goblin.
We could be zoomed in, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Professor Putricide, last phase?
Ooh!
No, no, because Professor Putri says the last page uses the model that is like the whole chamber.
The whole chamber model. Yeah, that's not it.
I think this is a goblin for sure. 100% on goblin.
Now the question is, because like you can see a little bit of like his mohawk at the top there, and he's got an antenna, so maybe it isn't under my boss.
I don't.
It's rocket, monger, luck and stock?
No. No. None of those really come to mind in terms of this.
This is a really obscure one randomly. It has to be a raid boss, right? All of them have to be raid bosses so far.
We know our final answer is okay.
I think I'm gonna go with Sprocketmonger. Sprocketmonger you like?
Yeah, why not Sprocketmonger? I'll go with Sprocketmonger. I'm not confident on this one.
I just don't want to be wrong alone, you know?
Yeah, you're right.
Nice, nice, nice. He's got a little gizmos hanging on him. That was really throwing me off.
For whatever reason, I thought it was a giant construct with small guys on it.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
The silhouette made you think bigger, but it was actually just zoomed in.
Yeah, he's a kind of guy.
Yeah.
A little maneuver.
Good Mr. X, but you'll never catch us.
Nice try.
Yeah, that was a good one.
That was quite good.
I had to get our thinking caps on.
Yeah, or our thinking snake.
Oh yeah, you guys definitely carried that one, because I was lost.
Yeah.
Yeah, but yeah.
Alright, one more. We got a... another...
Who's that boss?
Try out here.
In a moment.
I'm on the edge of my seat.
Yeah, I'm... I like this. This is one of my favorite segments to do.
Oh.
Ooh, this is clean air.
That's a lack.
Right? Oh, that's a lack, you think?
Okay, yeah, yeah, that's not it.
That's mine, that's a lack.
Answer, I had more of a torso.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
You like that's a lack?
I like that's a lack for this.
But it could be Sennarth.
It could be Sennarth.
No, it's about that.
Oh, OK.
That's close.
A 50-50, I think.
The thing is Sennarth has more rigid, jagged edges going down her claws and stuff, because
she has the ice.
But this one is a lot more just traditional spider-like.
That's a like.
That was a good one.
That was a good one.
That was fun.
That was really good, yeah.
Yeah, let's get more of those prep, because we're going to need some more content in
the next couple days.
I want to do it hard mode.
You've got to get to the Five Men's.
That's right.
Okay, so I'm gonna get back into snake mode here and we're gonna head to a quick break
But first we're gonna go check out our mural with our mural is even that's all three of us are gonna go and check that out
But I've got a re-snakeify here
You having to take it off of Charles's shaft is interesting
I'm going to go back to my room and see if I can get out of here.
Alright guys, me and Charles are going to check out the mural and it's going to be something
to behold.
Charles, chill out.
Alright, just be chill.
Alright, I'll behave.
Alright, I'll behave.
Just be chill. Alright, I'll behave!
Oh, you're always well-behaved, Eugene.
Hello, hello! Me and my buddy here?
Snake, no. We're here to check out the mural and see how it's going.
It's going well. Oh my god
Mirals going well, we are heavily in the background era as you know. Oh, yeah
Still little do people know I did help a little with Miral. Yeah, Jack. You want to point out your section? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, take a look
Wait, oh this one. I think I did this one. I think it was that one. Yeah, this waterfall right here. I got the
We need to brush it up a little bit.
No, my painting skills, totally different level.
Legendary, I didn't even know, and now I know.
And see, it's a little line right there.
I don't know, it elevated the piece quite a bit.
Absolutely, so we're gonna be probably killing
some raid bosses today.
You looking forward to it?
I'm really looking forward to it.
This background's getting really detailed, y'all.
It's getting extremely detailed.
Oh, we can tell.
itching to take down one of these bosses. Yeah. In my own way. Yeah. And you're
streaming, right? So everybody can see your your progress and the whole process
behind the mural. Yeah, you can pop over whenever you like. We're always here. Just
painting, real chill. Yeah. Chill style. Great. Well, thank you so much and we
can't wait to see these characters come to life. I can't wait either. Let's do it.
you're so welcome coming from such an amazing artist I guess you're the
handler
sorry I forgot to talk into the microphone my handlers just an idiot but
thank you so much for having us for this mural it looks lovely you're so
welcome thanks for checking in
Listen, you don't need to say, picture speaks a thousand words, million words.
You know that better than anyone.
Yeah, truly.
Okay.
Wow.
Bye, guys.
Bye.
Bye.
I'm sorry.
Pretty comfy, huh?
Isn't it funny that people wonder if THD is awake or not during raids?
Obviously not.
He's actually microdosing naps in his chair.
Sitting on a soft supportive memory foam,
so he really makes a lot of difference, you know?
But he's not just sleeping.
He's somehow optimized for recovery for the race.
And the trick is getting the 4-way lumbers report on this thing just right
to keep my posture ready.
So it's not even a nap, it's a cool thing.
Watch this.
It's so awkward when I'm trying to call Kong's in the raid and he's asleep.
Like at least for Klein or something. That's one of the best parts of the chair.
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I wish race started already.
Hey, can't see.
What are you doing out here?
The race started.
I love race so, so, so, so much.
I love only the glasses as any can help me see.
I just think it's weird that race started all of a sudden.
Oh!
Oh, please.
Oh, please.
Oh, oh, please.
I was thinking, what if we killed the boss
and ended the race tonight?
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
Don't do that.
Oh, please.
All right, and welcome back from that monster energy listen in the raiders have just come
off a break come off of lunch and I'm hearing a rumor that mythic is going to be starting
in approximately one hour whispers in the wind hopefully one hour yeah if there's always
a flexible window you know right so maybe there's there's many times that we were
told an hour and then Bubba pushed it and another hour and there was another
hour and then somehow it was like three hours you know like we would yeah
sometimes they tell you you know by Friday we're in medic and then suddenly
it's Sunday in the afternoon and then you're sitting here doing keys they got
us started at some point right it's Sunday of the first week we got to get
in there and get some myth track lose right yeah right I don't know how we
got here watch I do know how we got here but like it's it's kind of weird
to think about how we got here yeah big bad snake last boss wow yeah heroic
I mean I saw that the bosses were even like taking a break from sitting in the raid and we're sitting on the couches earlier today
Oh, no, those are the bosses. That was uh as Charles is not Charles's haters. Sorry Eugene's handler. Yeah
They just kind of spontaneously appeared. That was weird. Yeah rude guy
Charles or sorry Eugene. Wow. I really have a subconscious hatred towards Charles. He did nothing except get bullied the entire segment
But yeah, yeah, just a couple cool guys, you know, they're down break for now. Maybe they come back later. They could
So, what's kind of the game plan prior to going into Mythic?
They're just finishing up the last couple of runs of Mythic Plus that are possible and
then potentially going and getting their crests from like the Del Nimesis boss?
Yeah, yeah, uncapped crests for Del Nimesis to upgrade characters that aren't going to
be loot beneficiaries.
Mythic Plus to try to fill out any extra slots on these characters, make them a little
more powerful.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, yeah a lot of chores still and you never know.
Maybe it could be one of those situations where Bubba decides we're not quite ready
and we need to push it back another couple of hours.
You never really know.
Yeah, it also could be very well a thing of, you know, they start the Mythic and then
they're like, ooh, we're just like barely out of reach.
Let's go back and power up a little more.
I mean, I feel like it's Sunday.
Yeah, you actually need the timeliness of the Mythic splits are actually getting
a little bit of concern to me.
Yeah, well, the thing is, I doubt they're going to go really all that deep, you
know.
Hopefully, four would be cool and chill.
You know, they do get the second vault option as a thing,
but realistically speaking, how many people
are actually going to take the item,
as opposed to taking the coin?
Kind of a thing, up in the air.
Probably not that many.
But, you know, ideally, in the best case scenario,
is you're playing your character,
you're playing your main, it has all the items
it needs from Heroic, like maybe minus one.
You come in on like a Tuesday.
When the reset hits, you don't take your vault option,
you just kind of peek your head in there,
see what's in there.
You go do the heroic splits that would come on Tuesday,
hopefully hit the one item that you're missing from heroic,
and then take the mythic option.
Ideally.
Or the coin.
Or the coin.
And then you kill it on mythic, and then you coin the mythic one.
Full 20 players coining mythic coiled ulcer
is a pretty big deal, right?
Because that's 9 out of 6 loot.
So that might be the meta strat.
Yeah.
Up in the air, we do not know exactly what their game
plan is for loot.
But point being, we're looking at hopefully four bosses
these on these mythic splits I think it's doable the first three
Vashnik is I think the first boss that's going to probably pose a bunch of
resistance right yeah Vashnik and honestly
numerous a wave caller oh yeah I don't know what is it for that we're
thinking they're going to be doing uh obviously the first two that have been
killed yeah the first two that have been killed so the
turtles and the soil soil coiler
coiler yeah miss golly and then I would be shocked
if they don't kill Intume Sentinels, there's not really much happening on Mithic. The Mithic
added mechanic is just a couple people per side get a red circle and you guys just touch.
And that's it. It does a lot of damage. The fight hurts. So, you know, that's probably going to be
the thing that gives them some level of difficulty in their splits is managing to heal through it
all and assign defensives in a way that makes sense. But like, a guild of liquids caliber,
I don't think they're going to struggle with that too much. The Mithic mechanic of
I feel like that mechanic is like ridiculous, it puts a red circle on the players that has
to be soaked down.
It's actually very similar to the one that's on Mythic Barrage on Heroic Oolitech where
it puts those green circles on everybody.
It's just, or like maybe Argus is another good example of what that mechanic is like.
And they're also gonna have to, I believe the other mythic mechanic is that they have
to line up the waves that shoot out of players to hit the totems that are around the room
And if you miss, then it's not going great.
It blows up.
They have tweaked the bosses a little bit, so, you know, there have been a couple health nerfs on some of the later bosses, Vashnik being one of them.
There have been a couple damage buffs, so they buffed the waves actually hitting you.
Uh, it's terrifying now if you actually hit it by a single one.
Did they remove the waves, like, breaking out the malignant tumors?
That entire thing just kills them.
Yeah, I believe it just kills them. You don't need to actually target them.
Oh, I thought- I thought the tumors actually just got removed from the...
No.
No, no, no.
It's a total now, you know, much more thematic.
Yeah, as opposed to the 40 nameplates that are working on something.
The original tested version of the fight, like you're saying,
you had to hit them with the waves, and then you had to kill them afterward.
Yeah.
They killed us because there were like 50 of them around the room.
It just kills them.
Boomkins crying that they'd take that out, but, you know, they could cry at just about anything.
Look, man, the moment that the mobs spawned with 40 health bars, I couldn't see anything.
So I'm glad that they fixed it.
Like, it's terrible.
Fortunately, Starfall doesn't care.
Yeah, true.
But yeah, I think Vastnik would be a big point of resistance for them.
I think it's more of a strategy boss, though, than a throughput boss with grand scheme of things.
Good thing it's going to be easily farmed for the rest of the game.
Yeah, it poses an interesting question.
If you can kill Vastnik in splits, you definitely want to pick that one over Nimbresa.
The tier that drops off that boss is high value.
It has higher item level base on the myth track than Nimbresa Wavecaller.
Nimbresa drops 1 out of 6.
Yeah.
And also, even though they did nerf the Ray damage on them,
or so pretty significantly, it is still hard.
Echo got farmed by them, so Echo went in there on 25 man,
and then they pulled the boss like three times up 25 man,
then they dropped down to 20, pulled it like three more times,
and they dropped down to 15, pulled it three more times,
and they were like, you know what?
Nah, they left.
Yeah, so if they can somehow manage to get four,
including numerous of them, that'd be great.
There is a great trinket for casters
that drops off that boss.
The rest of the loot is not really all that significant,
but it does save them crest upgrades.
The thing about Numerousa as well though, which is nice,
it's just like Cungmaris where you're not gonna get yourself
locked to the instance until the boss dies
and at that point it doesn't matter,
so that's something they can go back to
with potentially revamped splits.
Afterwards, maybe potentially stronger splits.
It might be like a three out of eight split situation
in all the groups that they start
and then they'll end with as many Numerousas
as they can squeeze out on a Monday.
Would you never pull Cizerak?
Like?
I think there's value in getting some knowledge
on Cizerak, but again, we exist in a world right now
where whatever you decide to do, it's on-stream.
So, you know, you could practice scissorack a little bit,
but if the goal is to be efficient with mythic splits
and get as much gear as possible,
you would spend all of your time doing that now
and then just end up pulling the boss later
and seeing if that could pull the boss.
Sure.
I do think that scissorack has a high chance,
I mean, we were talking about this,
I think on Tuesday as well, scissorack just says
a boss has a high chance of being a DPS check fight.
Yeah, tight DPS check and not only that,
a very underrated portion of the fight,
Which is, it is hard to live that one.
Yes.
He hits, he hits hard.
You are scared on that fight, especially with the mythic values on some of the abilities that he's going to do.
Dude, the mythic mechanic is like it puts a red circle on a player and you have to have 15 of your raiders inside the circle.
And then the boss jumps on top of you and breaks that red circle.
And then he debuffs all 15 raiders with like waves that shoot out like an X formation.
The dot that's associated with the waves as you spread out is ridiculous.
Yeah.
And that's a period of time where everybody in the raid is running, right?
So healers definitely have a stressful job and if the boss does have a tight DBS check,
you know, first thing that's going is a healer.
So you're probably under healing that fight.
You're probably scared of the damage that all the abilities do on their own.
I think it's going to be the first real hard fight of the raid.
I don't even think that's the problem.
Like, the numbers alone are already going to look like they're going to be an issue,
but mechanics-wise, the fight is pretty annoying as well.
We're at the wins instead of just being one axis to two axes now.
It's why aren't the x-axis, so you have to find your partner that way.
That shouldn't be too hard for them and they'll probably run a cop where most of the players can save themselves
Anyways or something goes wrong, but also
The amount of ground and area denial there was on that fight when we tested it on mythic was really just bad
Well, I mean you didn't
Because the puddles them around the edge of the room the room wouldn't be cleaned up by the winds properly
And you'd have them some of that area still denied by the time you got to the second phase one
Yeah, that's something they're probably gonna have to do it's interesting because I think if those are the difficult parts
I wouldn't be shocked if look was able to kill in splits like I feel like that if you're gonna get checked
You're not gonna be able to kill in splits. I think it's both though.
It's gonna have to do with damage healing.
The thing is, when you're setting up mythic splits, which is just a hilarious concept as a whole,
the thing that you're gonna run into issues with is damage.
Like, these bosses that are a little bit later on in the raid are tuned around the fact that you have all items from Heroic.
And these characters just straight up don't.
You only split really as many bosses as you can that don't have strict DPS checks.
So the second you have a boss, that's what we assume to be a strict DPS check.
That doesn't necessarily seem like a feasible use of their time.
That's true.
They just want as many bosses as possible during Splints.
They don't want to sit there and progress the boss.
I'm excited to get out of Harokin with the plus simply.
I'm ready for something else.
Yeah, the caster's also something that has a lot to look forward to.
There's a lot of really, really good early boss elite for caster specifically.
A little less enticing for Strength and Agi,
who's main trinkets and gear comes from the last two, but...
If you kill through the first four, you got a chance at weapons, right?
Yeah.
And that's, I think, a really big deal.
Unfortunately, the two-handed agility staff is gated behind numerous wavecaller,
which, you know, maybe, but probably not, but maybe.
So, Brumaster Monk, Feral Druid, Survival Hunter,
all those specs are a little bit sad about the inability to be able to get that,
But all the other two-handed weapons are from the first four bosses for all the people so yeah pretty big deal if it allows
The liquid Raiders to forego crafting a mythic weapon instead allows them to craft something else could be really nice
Yeah, I think it's such a weird tier in general like just taking a step back and looking it up from a broader first
Active because even just looking at the leaderboard we're in a completely different spot that we normally are right now
I typically around this time actually a couple days ago
usually when this would have happened is you would see some of the guilds that did less splits but still had extremely skilled players something
Can like your instant dollars your fat shark yeses your northerns guys they would go in and like
Clear the first few easy mythic bosses by this point
But be looking at some guilds like working on six of eight. Yeah, we'd be seeing like four or five
FSY and apparatus literally killed the lizard council after like
The first 12 hours of mythic opening. We're not seeing any of that all of those guilds are still stuck on the hero
Yeah, say, Hero of Cool Attack is a progression boss for almost every single guild out there right now.
It's surprisingly the difficulty and coordination check, not only that, but the throughput check on that boss is equivalent to the fourth mythic boss that you would normally see in a normal raid.
Probably more. I felt like even Coiled Altar was a mid-mythic difficulty in terms of just the movement that is required.
because it's pretty rare that there's a signed movement where you need specific
people to actually do specific jobs on a heroic boss that's normally like a
mechanic that's reserved for mythic the fact that you had to have people moving
the orbs around on coiled altar even and dropping them in a position where
then your tanks with the tank your tanks also have to be perfect tank
combo constantly which is another level another layer to it and then the
tanks I can really know what to do with that it was a whole thing I was
a lot of moving parts I was surprised at coiled altar even not even just
to Ultec, but yeah, Ultec is.
Makes her a very fulfilling experience.
Once it's in a nerfable state, that's killable.
I just, I mean, it's just not,
it's like, to me, it just doesn't look like a heroic boss.
Not that I, not that I think it's necessarily bad,
but it's more just like,
this is not on par with what they normally do.
Yeah, it's a higher threshold for week one.
Yeah.
I think in general for most of the player base,
harder and mythic, sorry, in heroic bosses
is probably something that's a little more desirable.
Yeah.
But it definitely makes lives a lot harder
for the top end guilds that are used to just
going and blasting it down five or six splits.
I can't imagine like AOTC guilds are sitting there trying to have like, like that ULTEK
fight is hard, but it's, I mean maybe you do get a decent amount of reprieve.
I'm gonna, I'll be honest, you do get a decent amount of reprieve with a few more recess
worth of gear.
The heart burns like in theory you can kill it before actually having to go really
deep into the last phase.
But for these AOTC guilds, I'm not so certain that ULTEK is like really the,
Well, even for a couple weeks from now, when you get a large scale of power, you won't really
be skipping that last heart phase on Ulotec.
The barrier of power that you need to get in order to skip it is about 15% worth of the
boss's health of damage, right?
Because it's dying in the burn of the heart phase.
You would need to make up for that 15% throughout the rest of the fight.
I would be shocked if people weren't seeing through the entirety of the fight for at least
like...
At least two weeks is about the time that you would start actually skipping full phases.
So you still have to play through the fight.
The thing that it kind of gives you the opportunity to do though is have people die on the fight.
Right now it's such a tight damage check that you know that you're getting to the very
end of it.
And if people are dead prematurely you won't make the damage check.
It might be something where you're getting the heartburn at the very end of the
fight but like it's dying halfway through the heartburn or it's dying at the beginning
of the heartburn, something like that.
Do we think this is a reallocation because
Heroic is now giving myth track loot in the vault?
Do we think Blizzard is now intentionally trying to
make it as difficult as something that should give myth track
gear in the vault?
It feels more rewarding in that way, right?
I think that Heroic boss, especially the last boss
giving good loot and being hard is good for the health of the game long term
especially when we have these systems in place that
kind of make you stronger as the season goes on
we have the ramping raid damage buff that happens
we have the availability of gear crafting and crests so I think it makes for a rewarding and
fulfilling experience as long as the initial is also within reach and doable. Sure.
Yeah it's an interesting world we live in where this is the tuning that we've gotten to and again
it almost feels like it's kind of an experimentation from them once again. I feel like the fact
that they didn't say something more makes me believe that they just missed the mark. Like I
feel like if they if they put out a blue post in advance and then we're like hey this is kind
kind of what we're thinking about doing for this patch, we're actually going to ramp up
the difficulty to match the rewards that the content is giving.
That would make more sense.
The fact that they didn't say anything makes me think that it's maybe just like numbers
are a little bit off.
Maybe the blue post talking about how they're going to be awarding mistrack gear from heroic
in the vault was enough in their eyes.
That was the warning.
That was the warning.
All right, so I'm going to have a question for you.
What's up?
You're going to jail.
You're presented with two options.
in jail for five years or you're allowed to get out early if your mother is able to kill
heroic will attack on this current tuning. I'm probably going to jail for five years.
Okay. She is not a game. I'm going to have to learn to fight. You don't think for five
years. No. I don't think she has a bone in her body that's capable of playing competitive
video games it's just not her thing you don't think that the the concept of her
son being in jail is enough of a driving factor for her to like eventually
learn okay so I guess I should have asked that question is like does she know
why I'm in jail and what she yeah you can you can advise her oh I can advise
her yeah you can you can advise her really really yeah no I'm easy for
Sure, but really yeah
I think no matter how many resources my mom had and how much guidance I was able to give her
I'm never making it up until the five years
I would be of little help. I'll take the five years to it. Yeah
She if she had a good coach you could figure it out, but I feel like she just like
Wouldn't know the resources to figure out how to do it on her own. I mean, yeah
You can give her advice, right?
Yeah.
I've done coaching before?
Have you done coaching?
Yeah, I've done coaching before.
I've also done coaching with people who know how to unlock their phone.
So that's the barrier of entry for my mom that I'm working with right now.
Yeah, so I have a real uphill battle in terms of what coaching is going to look like.
Honestly, I think the first week of me being in jail is going to explain the
concept of logging into the game for her.
That's where we're starting.
So having that lock in and click to continue for the next few days is going to be my goal.
And then eventually learning how to move a character will probably be the next two months
to WASD in a strafe.
Look, you got five years!
Yeah, yeah, I'd make good use of those five years, you know?
You talk about what you've done.
I don't know what crime I committed to get five years of jail time for it, but...
Too many splits.
Honestly, it's more deserving of a punishment than having to even coach my mom through having to play video games, I think.
What you got there? Strawberry lemonade?
Yes.
Ooh, I gotta try that flavor. Is it good?
Quite good.
Is there a classic rehab lemonade here?
Oh my god. I just realized something. We have a liquid splits celebrity helper right now in the groupfinder.
Or not groupfinder, NCHE's group in this key.
You know about Dalson?
No. Even better than that.
Jimmy McGill.
Really Jimmy McGill my goat he's been there the last couple of races every single time
I stand up guy always around always popping into the key helper groups always been around for the splits absolute
Honor did a great job every single time low key that reads like a Shaquille alt character because that also
That also goes in giving 10 keys since Legion really yeah
That's we got multiple celebs alleged in this group. Yeah
He was he was up in being my mom souls farm groups back
Yeah, oh my goodness. I
I love Jimmy McGill. He's always in my groups usually at some point or another
during the raid. So just stand up guy. Just a real stand-up guy. So who are the
who are the known liquid split helpers? Obviously Lucy, Spooky. Lucy, Spooky
Death, Jimmy McGill. There's a couple of piss names that come to mind.
Like their name is Piss. Yeah, like the pisser, you know, or piss monster with Jesus last year
Yeah, we had Jesus last year
Rays like aiming on his camel on veraceus. Yeah, I think Max has a short that has like five hundred thousand views because of that
Oh, yeah, that was a highlight in and of itself
We've got like a few more, you know
I'm just trying to think off the top of my name names that I recognize and see pretty often tree mother plays a
There's a rest of Druid, somehow finds her way into the splits pretty often, um, it's
hard to really think off the top of my head when you put me on the spot like this.
There's a bunch.
There's a bunch.
If I saw them in game I'd immediately recognize them.
Oh no we missed a count?
Oh my goodness.
Guys, they're called Dignitas now.
Okay, bad joke.
Boo!
Boo!
Can't wait to watch Liquid P Dignitas at BlizzCon.
I'm not sure I've been pulled since the PTR.
The last two patches of the PTR, they nerfed them in two consecutive patches.
They originally were only giving 5 count, now they're giving 20, and they've received significant
nerfs.
I have not pulled one, they might still suck, I genuinely don't know.
It doesn't seem to be doing anything.
Thunderhead was also ridiculous on the PTR, and they nerfed him massively.
This mob's bit was it didn't do anything until it stunned your entire group, but it
looks like it didn't stun them.
It didn't do anything.
I'm not really sure.
Maybe that was chill.
Yeah.
I don't know if those mobs are good or bad, but I pulled them once intentionally, wiped
to them, and then I go, huh, never again, and then they eventually nerfed them,
but I haven't gotten back around to pulling them.
Let's see what we got here.
moment coming out of this chest. I don't think it was that they stunned you. I think they did like a
lightning storm and then it was like pulsing AOE on your entire group and you're just like
how are you supposed to pull this with the straw? Okay, we've got a cape. Is that what we're looking
for? That looks like a pretty good cape. All things considered that's probably one of the better
pieces, right? What else are people looking for specifically? Maybe just like tier pieces to
catalyze for better stats? Maybe catalyze. That's like a very minimal game that's probably what
what they're going to min-max a good bit.
But realistically speaking, all they really care for
is good set of jewelry that otherwise does not exist
in the raid and did not get on their character, the big one.
And then secondly, they might have some early boss loot
that's one out of six for Roadtrack or two out of six
for Roadtrack.
And if they do a 10, it drops out three out of six,
so they just save a little bit of a Crest up.
Org got for a mid-lake still a 289 piece
from the last year of the new year.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's just random off pieces that they're missing.
But in the grand scheme of things, not really anything that's going to either make or break
their character.
They just need to accumulate as much power as possible for the mythic splits that they're
going to run.
Siren up is doing a murder row.
I feel like the Clothys love murder row.
It has just all of the gear.
I mean, they need the flask for sure.
Well, there's also a good necklace.
There's a trinket.
There's so many tier pieces for cloth.
I don't understand how that dungeon has so much good gear for clothwares.
But you know what, in chat tired of running Murder Row yet, I'm sure there's so many people
that have been spam farming that key recently.
You know what Murder Row starts to feel?
I was dreading this key when the dungeon pool got announced.
I thought it was going to be the most miserable experience because when you walked in and
Mythic Zero got annihilated.
It was so not fun, right?
And then now after having done it, one, it goes super fast.
You do gigantic pulls.
And two, it feels very court of stars-esque, which I like.
Not even just from like a thematic perspective.
Thematically definitely looks like it.
A bit.
feel the same kind of vibe when you're doing the dungeon.
You know, you have the same kind of concept of the poles are
scary. You can do them really big.
There's like one or two important castes, like one mob that's
like a little bit more priority.
So like it demands a little, the bare minimum amount of
tension to where you feel locked in, but it's not hard.
Yeah.
And I love that.
That's like a nice balance to get to.
Oh my gosh.
Yip's is going massive in Count Mountain, going up to the
top here, making sure that he's doing a massive pull.
Is that triple warlock?
Oh no, that's single warlock double punisher.
Single warlock, yeah.
So this is the same pull that I like to do too.
You just basically sprint it up to the first Warlock,
then you sprint it up to the mini boss.
The Warlock is ridiculous.
I will say that.
That mob is the most evil, maniacal thing
I've ever seen designed in the game in terms of an NPC.
The Felmaster Lucy that's right after this,
that D Hunter mob.
If you do that, Dungeon like on a slightly higher level,
that mob will ruin your day.
For some reason the Blade Dancer
does way too much damage.
He's scary because he does a bunch of damage.
But I mean this Warlock is just,
It's dark-packed in your face, it's drain-lifing, it's putting a curse spell in the middle of all this, it's like, dude.
It's got more mechanics than bosses all the way up to like, Cataclysm.
Yeah, it's got a bunch of shadow melds in your group. That thing is gonna heal like, an extra 50% of its health bar. It's really annoying.
Yeah, yeah, it's like, you know, we already hate boomkins for their nature, but now it's starting to push the propaganda a little bit towards the warlocks, and then you're starting to look at your warlock players and hit them too.
The fact that they shield themselves and then heal is ridiculously annoying.
It just keeps healing it's just when you think that it's over like it lingers
Imagine you're trying to pull this guy up the hill right to and then he's just sitting in the back train
Mike you turn around you're like oh, it's not dead
He's at 40% again. What the hell yeah, you know more arms warriors new more moral strikes
I think as the season goes on people will start to realize just put that guy down then start running. Yeah. Yeah
Dude Dima lock is getting buffed by like 10 to 15 percent on a week by the way I didn't know is it
demo wait was demon the patch was due to this I saw af had like a 15% buff and
then I saw rain of fire buff yeah I don't know where that's gonna come in
demo got a buff to its apex talents it got a buff to hand a demon bold and
shadow bolt it's a single target damage a little bit it got a buff to its wild
imps how does Calamaz get away with this I don't know I just don't know
you got a question from chat do the raiders ever do things with all
to spend crests on to get the discount on their mains.
Yeah, notably last year, wasn't it?
Notably last year, that was definitely a thing,
but that was only really a product of the fact
that there was this Thagger Grid release
where March of Kelpinos came a week after.
So we actually went in with the intended purpose
of having a week one character and a week two character,
and then we finished our splits in week one.
It was making sure that we had two characters
that got basically everything we needed,
and then you would spend all the crests
on the week one character and be as strong as possible
for the voidsfire and dreamer frets, and then you would hit the growth crest discount achievement,
and then you would hop over and leapfrog your main to the second character with that discounted
crest thing available.
Here the dawn is so much harder to get this here though, I think that that's a really
good deal.
Yeah.
Alright, looks like we're also going to have a poll, the poll of the day brought
to you by NextGenAmerica is going to be in the chat, and the poll for today
is the best wow class of all time.
No chance.
What are we rating it off of is it like best in terms of most overpowered or best vibes vibes vibes
Let's do vibes. All right. We were pulling between mage warlock warrior and priest
I think if you didn't do vibes and you did power, you know, what's the point?
It's mage. It's the hero class of the game, but let's do vibes because that's way more fun
I like warlocks vibes. I think what the hell I do like warlocks vibes
Really, um, I you know Gul'dan very cool character and war I think that the
Like the visuals of that class are always really sick as well, and I think that there is something to be said about that.
I think if you're talking at least warrior vibes, right?
Okay.
It definitely depends on whether or not you are the warrior.
If you put yourself in the perspective of being the warrior, you're gonna feel really cool, but oh my god, imagine looking at a warrior player.
Not good vibes.
No, I don't know.
Players and Paladin players are kind of the same in my mind, where this guy's named John,
he's an accountant, he comes home from work and he goes, I'm going to log on to my human
warrior that looks exactly like you.
Mages taken at home.
Mages taken at home, warrior, second place, surprising.
Distant third, increased, they've got 7% of the vote.
Prece players are kind of wondering what they were doing.
Dude, shout out to the warrior voters, by the way, 6-7 on the votes on that one.
Oh my goodness.
The 6-7.
Oh my god.
Alright, thanks to everybody who answered the poll and casting your vote for the
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learn more and register to vote if you have not already make sure that your
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endorse any specific candidates or political parties but we do apparently
endorse the fact that mage is the best wild class of all time by base power
based yeah yeah maybe this is kind of running a kingdom over the game yeah go
back to the warrior problem I'm sure as a warrior when you hit a sick like
the leap combo you probably feel really cool but like when you watch a warrior leap
you're just like oh my god they look so stupid yeah what the hell are you doing
dude the mid-range leap is dominant I love that oh yeah a little bunny hop you
always feel like a jackass doing it but like it has its purpose it has its
place sometimes it's necessary it just looks stupid I'm surprised we got so
many warrior boats that's class all the time it's a warrior tier well I think
Okay, so look at it like this the most popular classes for max-level characters or it's druid palette of mortar hunter
It's always been those four classes. Yeah, it's like not no other classes are even thinking close to those four
I'm not super shocked that
Warrior got that many votes. I am surprised at Mage one. Maybe it's more of like a upper interpretation of what does best mean? I
Just realized something shades shades main character lays player and I was called alien wear PC
That's right. Yeah, who's the most good character in the guild for a little bit yesterday little beast alien wear PC
Yeah
Are they paying an extra for that? No, that's just a nanny shout out
It's just pure faith and in the product itself
What a guy the sponsor blog us with it
Also excited to see shape play something other than fell peril drew it for once to I think that
Liquid and you probably know more about their class representation more than me
But I feel like they don't have that many warrior players
I feel like it's been the while since they've needed like dedicated
Yeah, like more like warrior stacking is so infrequent. I feel like it that hasn't been a thing
The warrior players have slowly either been dwindling retiring or shifting to a different role
So, you know booby plays everything and he did play warrior in the past
That was something he felt comfortable on and now he's healing recus gone recus gone. Yeah
We did get wall life which is just like Jesus mode warrior. That's right. So that's that's a huge huge pick up
And that's a very very reliable
Person that you want playing you know the main character of this patch seemingly it's what disco and it's wall life
But then it's like oh where were the third you can come from this kind of in question
It's if you needed like three mages three warlocks
300 even easy easy to find those. Oh, yeah
We have a stable warlocks and mages within the invokers like a thing since you know forever
Yeah, you think even back in the day was like my love that it's just like we we we have a
Constant supply of just got here mage players. It's kind of like a
Undemincies where you guys need a bunch of Ellie shumms and Zebby's just like randomly playing. I like it
What is the third?
It's kind of the same things a warrior in my mind
So where is this third warrior you're gonna come from?
Yeah, even the most obscure things within the game
We have like people who play it like you don't necessarily think of Ellie is like a popular class
But you have people like impact a shine able to play it you have a majority the casters able to play it
There's just like random people who can pick it up and play it at any moment.
Shadow Priest, you know, for a while was like nobody really like mains it or plays it within the guild seriously.
It was like atrocity when he played, kingfly when he played, and then outside of that it was few and far between.
But now we have Tobu and Cynibos playing it, you know?
Would the kingfly quit?
Couple of exceptions.
Couple of exceptions. It's been a minute. Yeah. It's been a really, really long time.
I think it was Shadow Lance, when he bowed out.
Yeah, so it's been a while.
But, you know, these classes, they have good coverage on it's just like warrior is a little bit lacking for the longest time, almost my entirety of the time playing in the guild.
We didn't have anybody who willingly wanted to play DK with me, like everybody was allergic to it.
The only person who actually like willingly stepped into having it as an alt that they maintained was lip in Eternal Palace.
And prior to that, it was like, nori did it for a little while.
We had ruin at the very beginning.
Yeah. Yeah.
Nori was like the main DK of the guild at one point.
In in in torus when the guild is still operating under limit not playing for once first
So yeah, it was like Eric nori would play DK and ruin would play DK. Yeah, when did we go to healer?
After interest I believe okay. Yeah going into old year is when you swap the healing
Because I've only ever known him as a healer. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, Sam
A bill was in the guild for a little while to keep it warrior. Yeah, just like all your DK now is what I think he plays
That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you please that for infinity. Yeah, but for about like four years
I think nobody wants play DK and then lip was the only one begrudgingly doing it and then ruin
Was no longer part of the guild and then it was just me and blip and like lip
It was like he had a DK as an afterthought and then now we have a stable of DK's to it's like wolf disco plays DK ice play
DK lip plays DK like everyone
Shining and back both play DK
Yeah, yeah, it's like where did you guys all come from but it felt so nice, you know, I felt surrounded by by brethren
But yeah, it warriors a weird one where warrior and broke right now, you know
It's those two specs specifically that seem a little bit lacking from the liquid side in terms of how many people actually play them
I think DK like whenever
DK got really good at Mythic Plus, booming a shine into the pathing, and Wolf Disco all
have like specific reasons to really pick up deathite, and then it's like, okay, never,
now they just have these DKs.
Yeah, there's around not a really good use for it, this patch, DK stinks.
And I think something that chat might not realize a lot is that there are a lot of
people that are totally comfortable making the swap if it needs to happen.
And there are times in past tiers where like a week or two weeks before a tier we
realize oh man this might be really good hey you go level four of that character yeah so you can
have it ready for splits i mean it'll just happen what was windwalker like in undermine because that
i feel like that is the clap like the specialization that nobody plays yeah like where is that well
i always played windwalker as like my main alt but i never was told to have multiple windwalkers
that was never then because i'm just like the token dk guy um and that was just what i got locked
been on sure but yeah when when Walker was super OP which is few and far between
you were really looking at like boomy and trill or the two like notable when
Walker players that you want to play surprisingly the healer just randomly
ripped one Walker every now and then so that just like plays all the time
just about anything yeah the guy's very very flexible very similar to boomy in
that regard but yeah and then Zevi crafted an adieu weapon by accident so
you know that really panned out well for his win Walker arc it's crazy that
He just randomly killed two inbosses and wore with it as a DPS
Yeah, all of our healers
They are just DPS players at heart and can willingly swap to DPS whenever they want. They're not exclusively healer players
Yeah, Nick famously just for a really long time. We just start pushing keys on his DH
Which is just a hilarious thing to play in tandem with a discipline
I think Nick was like top damage on six-bong joke from Nunkin too. Yeah, just randomly. Yeah
Yeah, Nick which up to our farm rates on a DH and be like do you need that I want to push keys for like a couple seasons
It was really weird
I must have missed that are completely I didn't know about that. Yes, it was surprising honestly
I think it was an expansion or two ago
Oh man the top of the hour is quickly approaching I know
Andy's second now. Check it ready. Mythic is coming. Yay. One or two more keys.
That's Mythic.
You know it's really funny. They had us do a segment or not a segment but they
had us do predictions as casters for Mythic pole counts going into this tier.
And something tells me everybody is wrong on everything.
I'm gonna say one shot the first block losses.
Here's the thing that you need to know.
We're always wrong about the full count.
That is literally like the most fake thing of all time.
There's no connection between PTR difficulty
and live difficulty.
We're all just making up numbers anyways.
Sometimes you get 250 pull Mugsy into 50 pull Gallywix
and you would never get that right anyways.
The one I'm really, really excited to see is Nimerosa.
That's gonna be funny.
I think I said one.
Yeah, I said one.
Zero maybe.
Yeah.
Yeah so that one's gonna just be completely completely wrong from just
about everybody. Unless somebody you went crazy it was like 15 you know and just
hit the money on that. I'm gonna be honest I don't remember what I put for most
bosses. I just know I put one shots for the first three I'm pretty sure I did.
Yeah. I'm pretty sure I put one shots for almost all of them. Like it is like a...
As somebody within the guild maybe I get judged for this but randomly on a
very very early boss I'll put two because there's always the potential
that they take it for granted.
Just think of First Boss of Manifolds Omega last year
where they almost wiped to it.
Oh, the Puck's the Sola, yeah.
The Yip Sola, that was good.
It's pretty frequent where you go in just expecting
the First Boss to be a gimme,
and then it surprises you, and you almost wipe,
and then you go, oh, we probably should have
done a little better prep on that one, ironically enough.
We were like half a second away from wiping
to Vexi and the Gear Grinder,
and Liberation of Undermine,
and then the second week when we went back to it,
almost wiped on it again by like half a second.
That was the hardest, easy boss of all time, I swear.
Like, vexing the gear grinders, even in my own personal guilds,
Rave, probably once every other week, we'd have two or three
wipes to it for just no reason other than, like, we're not locked
in and shooting the trikes.
And I think it was like, we would not burn the oil or
something at random.
Not burning the oil and then taking the oil to completely
separate bikes instead of actually just putting it in a
bike and loading it up because there was enough oil to
spread them all out on the bikes on the second round but if you didn't like go
into a bike that already had oil in it then you just be sitting around unable
to shoot into the next set spawn. If you miss the soak you lost to the
berserker that's what it was. Here we go we got predictions on the
frame down below so we're all locked in on one shots for the first boss. I
think that's still likely to happen. I also agree I think it's likely that
the first boss. Yeah, the future bosses are probably wrong. Yeah, everything after the
first boss is when, you know, it's not looking great. Yeah, I could still see a wipe on the
first boss, though. Yeah. See, this one's just wrong. Like there's no way that's a
one shot 510 5. Literally no way to know three no way to know. I could see it being
anywhere up until 20. If they play bad, it's a big question mark, right? Like nobody's
actually pulled the boss and made meaningful progress on it. Yeah, that's true. It's tough
too because the skill disparity, even, okay, so you take a guild like XD, they get like
World 20th every tier, the skill disparity between them and Racer World 1st Guilds is
like insanely high because like it's, there's just extra levels that it's hard to really
convey and whenever you see XD kill loss explorers in 29 pulls, I do think that
there is still a decent chance that Liquid shows up and kills that in like 5 pulls
Yeah, maybe even one shot the boss. Well, here's my two coming in right here. Yeah, the hubris of feeding the fish
I think the two might be
I'm cooking with this one right somebody here as somebody who is consistently seeing them
Maybe take a really easy mechanic for granted and something like this where there's a timer to feed the fish and you know
In the chaos they might lose fish. I guarantee you they wipe to the fish one time. Okay, who's gonna be who's who's holding the fish?
Oh, um, if I had to guess it'd be shackrified up one of the two, you know, you think it's a fish
You don't think it's the box. No, I think it's the fish
I don't think they're gonna struggle with like the coordinated check of like what actually kills you on the fight in terms of damage taken or like
Messing up the mushroom. I I'd be shocked if like the mushroom isn't I know
But I think like one person would randomly die to messing up the mushroom, you know kind of a thing
It wouldn't surprise me on a easy boss for them to not be as locked in in that regard
But I could see like a hectic thing happening on the fight where they forget the fish by like a second
I see Shay on like my spell of the side monitor over here, and he's just submitting a crafting order in the tip amount
67 gold
Oh, yeah, you guys matched up on vashnik you guys both locked in at 12
I'm feeling pretty bad about that too. Yeah
I don't have faith in my friends as much clearly
Can I keep shooting a higher pool counting you guys on all these?
Look, I think that your numbers are close to the mine right now.
We'll see.
I'm feeling better about yours than mine.
I think Vashnik might even be higher than 26.
Perhaps, I think you might be right.
Maybe.
Who's to say?
It's big unknown.
We haven't seen any of these mythic bosses really pulled.
You mentioned that Vexig and the Geargrangers made me sad, though.
I think that was the last time that there was ever an M&S.
M&S, I don't know what to say.
Dude, M&S actually makes me so, so sad.
Did M&S get to one arm bandit that tier?
did right yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm gonna bend it for sure I don't think killed
Munze though we need to bring him an S back the glory days of MMS was a narrow bar
palace where you just formed the first four yes still through Roshan on get
very rare and leave damn it's ironic 23 on scissor rec ambitious I don't think I
heard of a boss just a walk in the park oh it's kind of yeah I don't know it
The thing is like it's impossible to predict.
I genuinely just think these are things
are impossible to predict.
You're just picking like a normal difficulty curve
and then deciding how steep it gets
at a certain part and just guessing.
It's one of those things that like
after a certain number of pulls,
you can kind of get a gauge for like
roughly how long you think it's gonna take.
Like whatever bluer got pulled,
like I think all of our predictions last year
were like, you know, 200 or 250.
And then it gets pulled and you're like looking at it
and you guys are 50 pulls deep
And it's, oh no, this is gonna be like, this is a lot.
Like this is the hardest boss of all time.
This is probably gonna be like 400 to 500 pulls.
But here's a fun one.
We'll attack.
We're all relatively low in terms of end boss.
I just didn't think that we're gonna slam down
another like Lura 400, 500 pull difficulty boss.
Especially to do that farm,
that boss just farmed the race rule last kill.
This is just completely reasonable. Yeah, I put it difficulty wise. I mean we put numbers based on historical precedence and then
They may be completely wrong or I mean I think under mine was probably the tier that was like the most wrong from the caster group
Yeah
I think given the knowledge that I have now and seeing how the rate has gone and then getting a little bit more of an
In-depth look at the dungeon journal because I made all my book counts based off of like a quick glance
But like I didn't really read into the abilities. I think I undershot it a little bit for the look tech
I would be in the 300s. Yeah now if I could read I probably I've probably signed on 350 or something like that as well
Yeah, like three I would be somewhere around 320 like a little bit closer to Xerox. Yeah there
But I mean at the same time there's still a version of ullatech that's
260 poles or whatever you put
Even in this current design or 80 look. Yeah, I mean
That's likely possible.
The Sarkarus was only 110.
It's not going to be 80.
Just simply, if you took out every single mythic mechanic on that fight and then just kept the one that's on the eggs where you have to break them out and they can't touch, that's immediately over it.
Sure. I think Clio loves her also.
One mythic is going to be a bit hard.
Yeah.
You can't see other people's ghosts and they can't stack on top of one another thing is a bit of an insane mechanic.
Would you guys put for Clio if you do remember?
I'm not even sure.
50 probably?
It was like a little over a hundred, I think I was in the mid 100s, if I had to guess.
Yeah, I didn't rank it like super, super, super difficult, but enough to the point where it warranted it being an ultimate boss.
I remember I got farmed by it during PTR testing, so I couldn't imagine that I put it like super low.
Like that fight during PTR testing was just a damage check on the first phase to not like,
because what something that you do when heroic on that fight is you actually just like press spirit link,
you take the 11 stack of the orbs and you just live.
You actually can't do that on Mythic.
So either gonna have to stop DPS or you're gonna have to beat the check
Yep, the two-minute check, and I don't I'm not really sure which one is the strategy
I
Guess you could always you can always stop damage right and you can just like sit there and take it super slow
Yeah, I said to 10 even oh my gosh. I was way higher than I even thought
Okay, I
You guys are insane come from you guys are really insane. I guess we've been doing this for a while
like
If they let the boss the same as it was on the PCR, I'd have their thoughts, but
It's always funny seeing my poll counts now that I kind of forgot what they were
I have like little faith to them on the early bosses and more faith to them on the hard bosses
And there's always like the the random forge mover or a raw sticks bunk junk
Everything that can show up where it's like, oh, yeah
This will be a five-pole boss and then you walk up to it and you go
Oh, this is a hundred and ten pole boss. Wait a second. What about what am I watching?
I would like to think that they've learned their lesson now at this point where that's not necessarily the case
No, but it's always possible. Who knows these things to me
Whenever they're whenever they're done perfectly by Blizzard. I just view them as happy accidents
Oh, wait, why are we pulling this harrowing the double-hairing lizards? You don't have to pull those
Oh, don't tell them
No, no, no, don't tell them about the twix of eight route. It's part of the route
No, no, no, you don't have to do them. No, no, no, no need to no need to no leak no leak
There's nothing I did that people that have like a whole W route though
There is something respectable about it for sure if you're not a triard
You're just doing them just try to get try to get gear and just move on I
Think for raid loggers. This is probably the least mythic pleasure ever gonna have to do probably mostly because there's no
You can just take a bonus roll no need to fill up the vault anyways
Like the only reason that you'd even go and do mythic bosses just gets get crests
It's funny. I was doing this queue with pterothol last night or two nights ago
Yeah, and I'm like, oh dude, we should do that the evade route. He's like there's no way to take credit for that
That's the evade route
What is the evade route you jump around the hairlers instead of you instead of pulling the two hair hours
You can like hop around the outside of the ledge
Yeah, and click the totem from the other side of the wall and then just go down to the boss
without pulling the two. And then what do you pull to make up for it? Just something else. Stuff the end.
It's like a, you know that pack that's like directly up the stairs after the mini boss that you
just, you normally just hug a right and you don't pull that pack. Yeah. Part of the reason it's done
is because when they were doing high keys on on PTR, that sounds disgusting to say, but whenever
they were testing things on PTR, the undodgeable frontal from the Harrowers would do like 90%
of your HP bro. All I'm gonna say is logging in at uh 332 and trying to do a 12 on the
PTR's Miserable. Yes you're going to do a 20. Like you just want the mobs to live long enough
for you to be able to feel something. Yeah. I mean even doing 10s right now in current gear,
the PAX die weight. I cannot believe that 10s give myth track gear by the way.
I'm surrounded by key pushers. I love mythic plus
No, it's not the game. I just love World of Warcraft
I'm in on everything. I like PvP occasionally to the only time in this entire game where I felt compelled to push a
Key level higher than what I just needed for like a weekly key. I think was that one seasoned
Last expansion where frosty K was meta like in near bar palace. I think oh, yeah
And then I tried getting a key group together with
Kevin and a couple other people and I think we did keys for three hours. Yeah, that was my entire time ever doing anything like a 12
What did you think about dragon plate season one where 20s were very very hard?
Wouldn't know you did that you did got no idea. You didn't proc a weekly deliver
No, I think the highest number of key I ever did was a 17 in Legion and that was when people are doing 35s
Okay, I think dragon flight season one might go down as one of the worst mythic plus seasons of all time
Whoa, whoa, whoa, I love that season. Thundering was a terrible mechanic and removed seasonals. Okay, that's a story of the game
True, I'm not gonna argue that but I had fun
look
Almost every season there you can point to some things and be like, yeah, that was bad
But then I just I look at it. I'm a simple man. Did I have fun?
And I thought that's okay food fun. That's fine
You know as a fun aphix that maybe might be controversial. I really like prideful
You like you like pride. I like the big guy if you weren't pushing keys that makes sense
Yeah, no it makes sense because I would something else and it made me powerful
But you can't do that in the high key it was fun until he became a raid boss and then he were like this is no longer
That fun. Yeah, well, that's a that's a scaling key issue
It gave you like a 25% damage amp or something which is like it was ridiculous
Yeah, you'd stack it with your ashen hollow your your fire mage combust your convoke as a balance to it or whatever
You want to tell off a trash back weekly 10 with that buff? Oh, oh goaded amazing
I mean, it's not controversial at all
But we also got two of the most goaded affixes ever and a couple of back-to-backs
Expansions there with a weekend to then encrypt it like those two were so good
I think shrouded is like low-key. It's like an insanely good affix to I know it wasn't played that much
It was the faded Chattel and season again not a not a super popular season in terms of how many people were playing the game. I
I think that that affects the better than krypton. I loved shrouded really you think it was better than krypton dude
I something about the stacking haste
The dopamine of stacking haste to the moon from the killing the shrouded mobs. Okay, that was insanely cool. I
Can see it
Now zulgamux or whatever that stupid mini boss. I'm out on I'm out of her, but
The rest of the affects itself was really good. I was a pain
This is one of the coolest Dungeon bosses they've made in so long.
You like this one?
I like this boss.
Dude, this boss didn't do anything on the PTR for a while and they reworked it to be
this.
I mean, what a concept, right?
Splits into five, it all has damage done to the boss, you get a random little A-Wing
thing, it's all in execute randomly too.
It used to not really do that, do damage back to the boss.
And every single time these mobs melee you, it put a stacking damage down, like starting
10% per melee.
It was so trolled that we were like, this guy didn't do anything, and now he does like,
actual, I think this fight is good too.
I'm with you.
The first boss of this dungeon, I still don't, like I understand what he does.
Yeah.
I still, I feel like I just stand there like the entire time, like this boss does
nothing.
Surprisingly does big melee damage to you, that got me started the first time I pulled
it.
I did not realize that I did big melee damage.
It's like a healer check fight with the triple strike or whatever.
I was feeling a little something on that one.
But then again, it's like a, you know, you walk into these dungeons on 10 and 10s have just been free forever.
So you're not expecting anything to happen.
And then if something doesn't even slightly moderate amount of damage, you're like, wait a minute, what the hell?
It's funny because 10s, the weekly key level had like a certain level of difficulty for a while.
And then the war within they're like, yeah, you actually, you know what, you're getting mythic gear from this.
We we want to make it a little bit harder
And so they made it so much harder and worth in season one and then people got so mad
They like quit the game because they got stuck in eights instead of actually, you know
Trying to play the system out and maybe get a good instead. They just quit and so now tense are
Easier the delts genuinely easier the delts sporadically
I'll just wake up in the middle of the night
Sweating bullets with like a bloodshot look in my eyes because I just had a 30-minute nightmare about my experiences in
Dragonflight season one going to Naka defensive in what was a full caster comp of shadow priests and warlocks who never kicked in the burial ground
Dude, I was I was crashing out that tier my week one no, dude
Like I that was the one that I brought to my guild so like I got a little bit carried that season by trell like week one
And so I did I was actually able to get three twenties done
And so I needed the fourth one
I had the 20 in my bags and I took it to my guild and we spent three and a half hours in no
could offensive 20 that dungeon like was not that hard but the people in my my raid group like these
are people that I raided with that tier they didn't talent kick like what are we doing why did
nobody tell us a recommended build on wowhead so I don't know I would do it would you think that
the people like that season uh whatever they were recommending builds on wowhead there was a
lot of talents that actually made you or talent trees that made you choose between throughput
versus utility and for some reason the people just get lost in sims they don't realize that you're not
talenting half your cc and for some reason you don't have your kick and then it's like what what
titles i played shadow priest that season i couldn't talent kick it was a two percent dps loss dude
i played moonkin that season solar beam was a five percent damage lost i'm still rolling up to the
dungeon with it all don't do this to me man i was in that dungeon as a blood decay getting my
head ripped off and my two shadow breathes neither one of them have a kick man and they
don't do any damage either it was all I was so mad I was so mad you have no idea so mad
you're absolutely right season four shadow was so good in dragon flight so much fun to
play but yeah you were kind of a burden to your team you're definitely the passenger
princess my long for passenger princess tree look all I'm saying is anytime people
site utility as the reason the specialization gets broader sat
i always point to that season's shadow priest who did nothing except for just do damage to the mobs
and then the end of uh shadow lands where it was double survival hunter holy priest destruction
warlock nobody in that group was doing anything it was just a blood decay the blood decay was
1d1 benign in the dungeon yep like the rest of the group were literally just a byproduct of the
tank which is always true as it should be yeah which is true it's all it always is
but I feel like you guys both missed out on probably the most fun character to
play in mythic plus ever which is it's like it's like not even close it was end
of BFA yeah fire mage season 3 the blaster master you had four people in
your group that were all stacking versus corruption so they were immortal
And then you have this stupid fire mage who was running 65 to 75 corruption.
You would see them, like everyone would be chilling in the group, right?
And your fire mage was randomly just caught her eyes out of nowhere.
You'd be like, what happened?
The thing got me.
The thing from beyond plus level.
I go, you don't understand bro, I had four things from beyond, I had a Vindyeg
member with seven eyes.
I'm in hell over here, but on top of the meters though.
It's crazy that you say 75, they were definitely running 79.
They were running as close to 80 as they could get away with it.
I had a very very brief experience of that when I was playing BSM
I just randomly booted up that character my mage and then was doing keys for fun
And it was fun, but it was terrifying. I remember there was a clip of Nagi at that time
Playing blood DPS in his rage
Yeah, I was just running around 85 corruption on there. Yeah, just like top of the meter
Just run around echoing boy wait for it. It was terrifying
It was really really really scary, but yeah, I was I did the same thing on our Elgin off kill
It was that was the that was one of the silliest moments ever
It's just like you put you play blood decay tank is a DPS you run
Near 100 corruption you're wrangling the ads and doing laps around the boss the entire time because you're just being chased
It's pulsing a we yeah, you're taking more damage than the actual tanks were on that fight by a considerable margin
sick
I remember during a heroic week, standing behind Dratnos, and he had brought a ton of random corruption items, and he was like, dude, should I just put all of them on this pole?
Today he put on like 200 corruption worth of items. Corruption was global, one Boston Eye, that was the entire site of Shadr's room. Couldn't go anywhere, died instantly.
Oh that mechanic was ridiculous.
It was a funny mechanic but also maybe the most aggravating one in terms of like feeling
like you're in charge of your own damage.
But made for fun scenarios, you know?
I've never spent more gold in a patch than I did buying BOEs for that patch.
You had to.
Yeah, it worked.
I could not believe that those were BOEs.
I think that, I mean, we've talked about this at Nausium because it's such a funny
thing to bring up but like the most expensive boe and raced a world first history was a pair of
pants that we bought for ej on his mage right it was a 10 million gold pair of mastery corruption
boe pants and the boss died for next fall that didn't really get used yeah that's good
it's all good can you buy a world first the people are wondering
yes yeah you certainly can you can problems everyone's doing it now so it's not like
It's crazy. Yeah, I feel like the title of that video like I understand where he's going for with it
It's more just like
Do you have to have a bunch of gold to win a race world first is more like the actual title of that video?
Oh, yeah, but it just became a reoccurring meme for so long. It was great
Oh, yeah, because of the premise of Kenny also, I cannot believe that
That method actually paid real money to buy gold that tier and nothing
Oh yeah, it was like 30k.
They spent a lot of real money.
No, no, no, it was like 10, it was, it was,
I think it was like 15,000 euros.
Method or echo?
Method.
Well, this is before echo even formed.
Before echo was in there.
Yeah, yeah.
They spent like 15,000 euro,
and then whenever they were pressed about it, they go,
well, if we bought WoW tokens,
it would have been $50,000, and everybody goes,
huh, well, whatever you put it like that,
yeah, that makes sense.
And they did get bid.
I was shocked that they did get bid for that.
Did some different times.
Yeah, the Wild West, the glory days, as some would say.
They were really right about that though.
Would you rather be 50,000 euros by Wild Turcans?
We just took donations.
Yeah.
And somehow managed to get like a billion gold that way.
I think you guys took donations,
but then I think you guys had an agreement
with Gallywix at that point in time, right?
Where it was like, we'll take a loan.
You guys think you got like a loan from Gallywix?
That wasn't a huge chunk.
I mean, it was like, what?
It was like 200 million or something like that?
Yeah, something like that.
Well that's here I feel like Guilds only spent like 3 or 4 million tommy
No we spent like a lot more than that
It was like something like 700 mil
Yeah or it's actually tweeted about it
You could probably find that tweet
Now we have the Iron Bank of Shkib
Oh that's always been
That guy's just got in the gold
Yeah he could if he wanted to single handedly finance a race
Oh he's that rich now?
Oh yeah he's got gold
I remember for Nialotha he was one of the donators to the Guild Bank
He donated like 35 mil
Yeah, always does, but I think he has hundreds and hundreds of millions of gold.
That doesn't surprise me.
The Iron Pank of Shakeen.
Yeah.
If this guy, dude, if this guy was a day trader, he'd be killing it.
If he was easy, he's out there working the stock markets, you know?
He would be rich.
I know he does mythic plus sales every single season, I didn't realize he had that
much gold.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, he does.
If he plus sales in the last two weeks are so lucrative, it is crazy.
i mean he would
i think the sales that he does are different than the other
the kind of sales that other people do
you like he sells by
the hour not by
interesting
i see something really fun on chase green
i think that it's coming soon
me cause
i think that he is setting up to get ready for a mythic immediately after
the scheme
on the valour street it was 720 ml
the people in chat were uh...
saying that it
that this was the last key
723 total
gear trades 245, BOE's 215
totaled at 535
definitely good, he's gracious
and then I remember pieces in sepulcher
spent a billion gold, literally over a billion
it was like 1.1 billion
yeah, back in the days of personal loot
yeah, well, I mean personal loot and tier returning
like you had
The guilds were like, yeah, well, this is what we got to do and power to the players people's pieces specifically
They were competing against like echo and method at the time for traders, right?
Where are we trading people?
Wasn't the plan if somebody could trade a heroic piece of tier during week two of Sepulchre. Yeah, I just got a gold cap for it
I don't know about gold cap. It was like what 10 mil for James's. Yeah, that was it the JP
Oh, that was just one no, but it was definitely several million. Yeah, it's like a ridiculous amount of gold for just a singular item
Yeah, yeah
I mean, those tier sets were ridiculous, like the 2 to 4 set damage for a lot of specs was
like 15% by itself.
There were some tier sets that increased your damage by 50%, like Blood Decay, but most
DPS were only 25% damage gains from 0 to 4, but 25% is one of the highest numbers that
we've ever seen from tier sets.
Yeah, super, super strong tier sets and super RNG on the acquisition, you know, because
we're operating in a world where you just have to loot it.
Look, hey, that's how it was for forever.
And you were just okay if you didn't have your tier set.
Yeah, but I also like the world in which we exist
where you do get the tier sets, you know?
It makes for a nice little cushion.
It's something to look forward to,
you're never gonna get it.
The differences, the expectations were different though.
Yeah, yeah, we existed in a completely different world
back then.
Now we're in a very, very metagame super strategized,
like top to bottom.
Optimize, optimize, optimize, optimize, yeah.
So, you know, after being enveloped in that for so long,
it becomes a mainstay in your mentality
and how you approach the game.
Legendaries I think are the perfect example of that.
Fear Laugh and N'Zero, there was like a weird balance.
So for legendaries for the longest time,
you just kind of didn't expect to get them
and you were kind of okay with that, right?
They were a legendary thing.
You kind of knew their place.
You knew that it was unlikely that you were gonna get one.
In Fear Laugh and N'Zero, there were so many people
that were like, oh, I see my peers have this legendary.
I feel apathetic.
I can't play the game without it.
And I think that tier sets kind of have the psychology of the World of Warcraft player in 2026 has evolved so much over time where if you instead of being like, oh yeah, I'm looking forward to potentially getting this, it's oh, if I don't have this, I can't play.
We were talking about this on the casting block just prior to this, but what do you guys think about a tank specific legendary coming next to the game?
Look, I'm down.
Sure.
Okay.
But here's the thing, though, I don't know how they would implement that for most of the tanks actually being able to use it.
Like you have the idea pictures shield tanks getting a shield legendary
I mean they could just make it so it's something that every tank and equipment
You remember the tight guard the agri-mortrin kit?
Yeah, yeah, what if that's the the legendary?
I don't know I really want a legendary to be back in the game again
But I don't want it to be something that's
Watered down, you know, it's been a while since we've had a cool legendary feraloth was really really really cool
Can we get a I mean casters haven't had a legendary since yeah since cataclysm yeah, that's what I'm saying
Casters should get something really cool. Yeah, I still can't believe a mirror so wasn't a true legendary
Yeah, but he had a big axe
That's true. He did have a really big axe. He had a big axe and he walked like he knew he had a big axe
Yes, we need to bet he kept that thing on him
I think we are a mere minutes away from stepping into the mythic
I'm so excited. Oh, he's the last keys. We've had Shannon our other monitor. Please don't bring up his POV
He's doing stuff that we probably don't want to show on stream
I mean, surely he's been setting up his this will add getting ready on this dream while this key has been going on
Yeah, I
Think this is lat we are in last key before mythic raids. Yep
We've got something excited coming our way
Oh my goodness.
Yay!
Freedom!
All this time, all these splits.
All for this moment.
And then on Tuesday, we get to do it all again.
Yay!
Look, look, look, look.
I've been coping for days now. I need this.
Even though it's Mythic Splits, I just need to get out of Mythic Plus and Heroic and Normal
and the Tidebound Grotto and whatever else.
else I need to I need to see some real content you're saying this isn't real
content right now I look no 10s are not real content I'll say it I'll take a
controversial stance no 10s are not real content you think we get a little
whirlpool action going on in the first pull of mythic back in the middle
probably not that's how they pass their time after all this time that
they've been spending doing splits make it a little entertaining I hope so I hope
we get some fun cops. We haven't had any opportunity for any fun games this race yet. Usually, we
always hop into a monster energy listen and it's just they're on their beat.
Well, the vibes guys on the couch.
But they haven't really had the opportunity to do that yet.
The vibes guys on the couch instead.
Every single time I see them walking down the hallways, I keep asking them, are they
having fun yet? And the only response I've gotten so far are concerned lapsing.
Yeah.
We had Tobes and Puff try to do a new handshake on the broadcast.
I think they were right behind us.
It was alright, it was chill. There was a Giff of it and then Discord.
They hit a nasty sell too. They didn't think it was Beast.
Yeah, it was sick.
I don't know if that's going to be like the new handshake though.
Me and Shaq got our own one going on.
Oh my god! What you got?
Key's done. We kind of just go a little cross cross, pound, and then jellyfish.
With a jellyfish, yeah, that's a good ending.
Would you be jellyfishing?
Okay, I see you raid group forming all right chat. It's time to tab in call your mothers call your fathers
God call your brothers and your sisters liquid is about to enter mythic splits mythic
It's among us. We've finally made it deep
We've watched imposter runs for days and days and days
But now it is finally taking us until Sunday to make it towards mythic split
Also call your mother so she can take notes just in case you get put in jail for five years and she needs to break you out by killing Heroku attack
Yeah, make sure that everybody tunes in and tell them that liquid is zoning into mythic probably Sunday Sunday Sunday
You know how sick it would be if you just baited them and they go back and do another normal stop
This is main a monitor content the race to world first
I know it's been I know it may say at the bottom that's been going on for five days
But now it truly is starting. Let's go liquid in the leaderboard coming soon
We no longer have the field questions about why liquid is not on the leaderboard
It's happening. Well, why is what the heck still there cuz you know what the heck I?
Feel like it's oh we're adding exclamation points or not. There we go. Now the vibe is mad. Oh
My goodness gracious
Oh no.
THD making his way to the raid, he has not adopted the gun shoes technology that we saw earlier
from Tobo to be able to more efficiently get into the venomous abyss.
THD also needs an invite to the raid group.
Can THD please whisper, limit maximum, aka liquid maximum, in, or invite?
It's probably a gip study.
Yeah, or Scott.
Or Scott.
I saw Boomster was sending out the invites earlier too.
Yeah, Boomi historically does make groups pretty frequently.
You can tell they're going into Mythic 2 because THG for a while though while he was running
there was smiling.
He's in the raid.
We're in the raid.
We're in the raid.
Mythic!
Oh my god.
It's Todd.
Oh my god, we got a KSP rogue in here.
Oh my god.
Double hunter.
Atlas, I have a question for you.
Yes.
There are 30 players on the roster, there's only 20 slots here.
Yes.
How are they making determinations on who is going to be in?
Carefully.
They probably have a bunch of groups, right?
setting up these splits so in terms of oh my god my favorite letter it says for
two things monster and mythic the perfect combination of both and look at that
he also has a hundred and seventy to a hundred and twenty one FPS a feature you
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I don't AMD for the XDDs, insane CPU.
But yeah, they're probably just, you know, splitting up every single person's characters throughout the groups.
Yeah.
This group I would imagine is a little bit stronger than the rest because it's going to be their first go-through.
They want to kind of supplement the stronger characters into this one without sacrificing too much in the loot department.
You know like they probably have a lot of throw away characters that they're not necessarily aiming to main and between those
Some of them might have bigger ticket items a little bit more edible
So like I said
Yeah, did you ever see the serenity star star auger first kill?
Yeah, there might have been three nigguras in the race. Yeah, there was like a there's a couple of
the gurus in that rape we might got a couple dry knees here he's dual boxing
bold bold first split first split thing going you know what happened is he
probably was logged into both characters at the same time and whispered in from
the battle net and has an auto acceptor so I just invited both of his
characters yeah that's why they'll be way more fun if he was dual boxing
that's something he would do for fun we do have our first 20-man field here
yeah there goes one of the drawings right now okay holy moly this group has
an Easter egg in it can you see it do you see what I'm seeing oh let me see the
Easter egg it's an Easter egg and it's not a good one it's surprising that it's
even happening let me see which one I'll give you a hint indirectly it relates to
me oh relates to you yep who is it we've got a DPS DK in the raid red alert
oh oh I didn't even I didn't notice that oh yes that's not something you
want to see cryptics is on his DK and is in here on his DK I thought those
were fraudulent they are fraudulent it's useless except for to grip the ads that's
probably why he's here I would go and berate every other player who's in the
rain yeah yeah what are you guys doing guys come on no propaganda play your
characters we do have a DPS DK the raid I can't wait to see him competing with
the tanks. Yeah, so I mean, okay, we've seen Nexali a few times before now, at least on
heroic or normal, probably many times more than we necessarily anticipated. Obviously,
there is the most difficult part where you have to be able to break the shields on the
adds to be able to DPS them with physical damage. For some reason, there's like a
classic mechanic, something that happened in molten core. For mythic only mechanics
atlas, what are we kind of looking at? So notably, they have a down phase. It's
It's kind of like a Keltsysaw phylactery sort of situation.
You need to pick a couple groups of people
to go down periodically and fight and add down there.
It doesn't really do all that much.
You just kind of dodge the mechanics down there
and burn down to zero.
If you don't do it in time, you'll die.
What kind of specs are good
as like this strike team kind of?
It's single target down there, you know,
but it doesn't necessarily have anything
that, you know, a particular spec would shine
over others outside of just like, you know,
maybe you're cool down timings line up well forward
or one of the other things.
It's like what, like two groups of five?
Because you can't go down twice, yeah?
Yeah, so it's a pretty underwhelming mechanic as a whole.
There's not really much to look out for outside of that.
The only wipe condition basically is that,
where the ad's reaching the middle repeatedly.
And of course, there is a DPS check in the burn section
of the fight, which at 50% from to zero,
if the boss hits 100 energy, you all die.
You still is?
Yeah, yes.
But assuming it's first boss difficulty,
it won't necessarily be a DPS check problem
that they'll run to.
You can get overloaded by ads and nothing
if you're burning corpses.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, OK, if you're not staying on corpses, yeah, with the circle.
Yeah, but these are things that, like, you know,
when you're looking at liquid and how good they are,
it's not necessarily going to be something
that they are concerned with or are going to struggle
in an execution factor.
Being able to get the shields off of the adds
with the magic damage, that's going
to be some of the most important stuff,
I think, for a lot of these specialization specs,
like Moon can warlock Shadow Priest,
probably going to be some of the best at just
dealing with those.
We also, in this raid in particular,
Based on what tuning is looking like we are in a world where it's a more physically damage heavy comp compared to most rates
Right, okay, you're stacking a lot of warriors. You got your hundreds in there
You do have like, you know
Spread cleave to target kind of guys you got your warlocks boomkins shadow priests that kind of situation going to Devon vokers too
But it is lending itself to more physical damage than you would normally see in normal raid
Yeah, so maybe it might be a little bit weird here
But I think that as long as they have enough up front damage to get the shields broken should be pretty yeah
I'm feeling a one shot. I think that one shot is quite likely we did we have seen one guild one shot this boss
I think consequence one shot and then XD has also also killed it like sub five balls
Yeah, so it's definitely one shot a ball and
The fact that you know consequence a world rank top 100 guild one shot
It means that like what is very like with one shot even in a split
What are we pulling extra trash for here?
Uh, so those, those mobs pull if you have a pet.
Wow. Wait.
So the pet will run off to the side and just run through the mobs and then aggro them.
Um, they're, they're missing monk buff, I think.
No, not a buff.
Oh, I think that might be the most important.
Nah, not needed.
Well, it's also not surprising.
They, the state of monk right now is basically blue master is unplayable,
misweaver is underwhelming,
Wind walkers good, but how many wind walkers do you have on the roster?
You know what I mean? It's basically just trail. Sure. So these runs are often going to be missing the munk buff if I had to guess
They don't necessarily have the availability of the munk. So what you're saying is that?
All the Ray buffs are not required. They just make things easier
For the first few bosses perhaps
Once you start running to some sort of damage checks, you're gonna want that munk buff
Absolutely, especially because we just said there is a high prevalence of physical damage dealers and all these cops
So honestly seems like an oversight in this first group
I would assume the first group if anything would definitely have all the buffs and
Be the strongest version of the splits to make them able to get through as many as possible and understand what the pain points are
Yeah, well trash is cleared boss is now reset. All right now is a great time to reset to throw
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Throw your primes in the chat.
If, I know you guys have been waiting, you guys have been throwing subs for the last couple
of days because the race for world first, you get 16 hours of content per day.
But now, if you do not want ads, make sure you throw your primes in the chat to make
sure you never get hit with an ad break.
Liquid is zoning into Mythic.
It is very likely that we're going to have Mythic splits.
But there's going to be content that pushes back against the players and we are finally
zoning into Mythic.
The last thing that you want is when we're pulling up to the fifth loss explorers
of the week and the boss is at 2% and you're waiting looking around for Gebo's bag to drop
and you're getting all hype and giving liquid their energy and you get hit with an ad break.
So toss your primes and spare yourself the shame of not having to watch that exciting
experience.
Every tier we talk about this, right?
You don't want to be watching on the last boss, going into the last phase, throw
on that final heartburn and then you get hit with an ad and every time there's someone's
like, yep, that happened to me on DaVincius, I'm subbing this time.
Don't be that guy.
Dude, it happened to me in Undermine when I was on the bench.
I was watching a stream and I got hit with that at 20% and I was like, oh geez, I wish I set my prime
And you know what if you if you don't have a primer if you don't have money for your own sub you can always ask the chat
Any gifters and the gifters
Interest individuals who might be willing to hook you. Oh looks like they're they got an empty spot
Where's the monk? We're getting in the monk probably. Let me see a monk
What do we drop they don't have warriors in here?
They had three. They actually just dropped out of one at the war. It makes sense because you know
You're not gonna like stack a bunch of warriors into one group. You want to cure them, right?
Yeah, I mean those are your your number one. That's princess. That's that's the princess of the tier
You got to give pookie her pookie treatment, you know and pookie right now is the brown class
So you want to make sure that there's enough to soak all the loot that would drop
But you don't want to over stack it trolling them up has entered the raid and there it is
That makes sense. That makes a lot more sense now. Yeah, this is a much more balanced comp.
They got every single red buff in there.
They're probably playing a little bit more geared characters in terms of like what's available to them for the split.
Just in case they do have some sort of difficulty while they're learning the bosses.
It's supplemented by the fact that the character is a little bit stronger.
All right.
Checking the dungeon journals, THT.
Not really sure what we're looking at that now.
We should be good to go on most of it. Quick low refresher.
You know, we've been doing a lot of mythic plus and a lot of latex splits in the past couple days
Maybe forgot how this boss works probably typing out assignments for who's gonna be going down to that strike squad
Who's gonna stay in up the entire time make sure that everybody's on the same page
It's like what could potentially be the pitfalls of this fight pretty consistently when I was writing within the guild
You'd show up to the first boss and half the rate has no idea what it does. That's valid
And when you pull the first boss, you're sitting there expecting it to be a one-shot and that nothing will actually kill
You just react to it on the fly. They're probably just taking a second to be like hey guys
Quick little reiterate, this is what actually happens on this boss on Mythic, make sure
you actually know what to look out for so we don't wipe that would be super embarrassing
and it would waste the time.
So for context for people who are maybe just tuning back in, Liquid has finally, after
days and days and days of splits, have entered the raid onto Mythic.
Now the assumption is that this is going to be Mythic splits, although I guess it's
not guaranteed.
This could be their 20 best characters and where they're trying to clear throughout
the entirety of the raid, although the fact that the reset is looming makes it
more likely that Mythic splits are here.
At the same time, this is finally where we are going to see what does the guild look like
in Mythic.
What does the raid really look like on Mythic at a high level?
Well I can tell you looking at THP's HP bar, he's not on his main.
Yep, that's less HP than I have.
Yep, so we don't have all mains in the group for sure.
Yep.
So we're in some versions, we don't know how many yet.
Yep.
We don't know how many bosses they're going to attempt to kill.
Yep.
A lot of question marks up in the air, but we're at now one and a half days
left in the week.
So whatever they do, they have to be incredibly efficient at doing it.
Ready check is up.
They are done preparing.
We are going to be pulling the first mythic raid boss of the tier.
Alright Atlas, what are we going to be looking for here as some of the first mechanics that
could potentially cause some problems?
So the tank frontal does hit hard.
It's called possession barrage.
The boss will shoot little clones of her towards the tank and they are interceptable.
If a DPS player does intercept them, they will die.
So you have to not be in the path of the boss and the tank, and the tank does have to run far.
It does a considerable amount of raid damage as they're hitting.
A very, very notable one is there will be these adds that kind of spawn around the room from these coffins that light up and work their way towards the middle.
Wherever they die, leaves a corpse, and then you have to use separate mechanics later on in the fight to burn the corpses, otherwise they reanimate.
And then finally is the mythic specific mechanic where you go into the down phase and split little strike team groups.
And you have to kill that ad if you don't kill it in time, you also die.
Okay.
Alright.
Maybe we got baited by the ready check. Maybe that was a ready check for the ready check.
It was a ready check to see if they've read.
He, yeah.
Yes.
Are we all on the same page?
Does everyone understand? Do you know your groups to go down?
What are the things, like the potential wipe scenarios here are pretty far in view, but...
Oh, 15 seconds.
You never really know with an early boss like this, you're saying yourself, some of these
early bosses, you might not be respecting the boss enough, but here we go, full timer
is up, we're going to be in combat with this, call it a soul killer here, and right off
the bat, the boss is going to be doing decent amount of his AoE damage, this is just the
general cast that it does, not something too difficult for them to heal through with
there's nothing else going on, but when this starts overlapping with other mechanics
later on in the fight, it can be something that maybe catches them off guard.
I think they're going to also, you'll see THD do this in a little bit, he's going
pan is camera around the room to try to see where a bunch of the ghosts are
spawning from so cryptics and yips on these death knights they're gonna be
looking to try to death grip the ads basically is closely stacked as to one
other as possible there's also some puddles that get dropped ideally you
drop them across the wall because these puddles as you can see they're kind
of moving around and so making sure that you end up dropping them against
the wall and get them out of the way the play area is really important
and now we're actually seeing the first couple of ads going to be
spawning here just a couple of seconds at the same time the myth of the
phoenix wall right yep there's a strike team going down in that middle into that
phylactery phase like atlas called out earlier yep so all things considered not
too much to stress about right now they did drop one dead puddle it's not
going to screw them over in the long term eventually there's gonna be some
in that spot anyways but you know it's the first boss you're not gonna get
punished for six quite as hard just making sure that these ads don't
reach the middle will be good and he's got the a bomb left yeah it is
actually a very very very good talent to have on this fight over mass grip because mass grip only
does one selected grip during a small segment of time. A-bomb's limit will grip repeatedly
mobs across the room that you know need to be pulled maybe a few times. It is a good choice to
take on this fight. It looked like a bunch of their melee DPS were the people. There are people
who do predominantly physical damage with the people that were going down in that phylactery
phase. Now something that's kind of interesting about this fight is that whenever those ghosts
spawn they have a shield on them they cannot be damaged by physical damage until that
that shield is broken and so keeping your wizards up top to make sure that
they are able to break that shield so then everybody can cleave is gonna be
important as Atlas pointed out earlier this raid is very fizz heavy just on
on the whole it's super fizz heavy and so in those phylactery phases whenever
the people jumping that so well in the middle of the room you really don't
want to send a bunch of the wizards yeah it looks like little truck good
toy KSP and a couple of people are going down there they organize the
groups to go group by group there is yeah so they're going five at a
They're sending group 1 then group 2 then group 3. This is group 2 now going down
And this is what you expect to see out of the midi phase
It's just the these little ghosts that shoot out of the boss out of the crosses that he spawns
And then they start to rotate around the room slowly and then you just have to make sure that oh my goodness
Just done it out there. They've got the boss down
And of course like like you said while they're down here the entire upstairs is being slowly dragged towards the middle
And also taking the A.V. Damage, so they want to go out of there as quickly as possible
I also don't want to wipe on the fight.
Same concept as Rok'nath too.
When you hit 50%, the boss will go away.
You'll get the intermission-like section
where you start burning corpses
and you have two bigettes to deal with.
And then after the 50% section
where you kill those two echoes of Jawe,
that's when it turns into an actual DPS check.
So you're gonna see them saving
lust here for that last phase when the boss comes back.
They even got a little bit of milk going right now.
They're getting lower than 50%, which is nice
in making sure that they have a low boss
heading into that last phase and now they're going to be working on these
two big eyes and making sure that they burn the corpses around the room.
The corpses themselves are kind of glowing a little bit with a light
visual. Yeah. And they're going to have a group soak that lights the people who do
not soak it on fire that will go around the room and burn. I think you have to
you have the alternate soaps right it's like 10 and 10 or can you soak back
to back. For some reason I remember from PTR testing we didn't soak we
didn't have all 20 people in the city. Yeah you definitely don't want
everybody in the soak because it doesn't give you the availability of
people getting lit on fire so wherever the group soak goes down it
It will burn around that area, but if you do not soak it, it gives you this red circle
now where you are able to move around freely and pick a spot where you want to burn.
So if you have super far ads across the room, you want some of your range available to not
soak it so they get this red circle specifically to burn the far ads.
All right.
It looks like group three going down now.
So they are going to deal with the same ethnic phase as the other groups.
They're just going to burn this ad down and make sure it dies in time.
There is an interrupt cast on this ad as well, but it has such a long cast time
that you have a lot of leeway in making sure that it gets handled properly.
I think any of these groups have the DK or the ones that have the potential for being problematic,
especially whenever you're looking at the ads up in the top phase. But this group is able to
DPS this boss down, there's many boss down, and now they're coming out of that phylacrit phase.
Yip, so that blood DK probably should be able to get everything grouped up.
Yep, ideally the ads are burned on time as well. So this is looking great for Liquid here.
They've got those ads that just died now. They're going to have to burn it just a
moment already under the second echo of the Y here first one dead and of course once they kill this
they're going to be in the last phase that is going to be the DPS check that we're talking about
but you're saving less for that moment they're probably saving all the DPS cooldowns making sure
that they don't hit any berserk issues they've properly burned all the heads around the room so
they're going into this queen they are down the battle rest one person to die so they can't
have anyone else die but again you know first boss it's not a very stringent DPS checking
A couple people die, they'll probably still make the damage check.
Exciting stuff! Ladies and gentlemen, 1st mythic boss being killed by liquid really soon.
Hopefully. Hopefully. Hopefully this season is worth it.
Should go wrong at any moment.
Is not that bad, there's another big spread here from the Echo.
One last dying cast from it as it goes down in just a moment here.
The rounds are available, artists are sitting on that search here for this lust push here
and the boss is now available. They got it down to 45% for the phase, there's the lust.
There's a lot of this push for the team here.
And we're looking for a couple notable items hopefully off this boss when it dies, but their trinket is good.
There's also a Caster Dagger which could be decent, it's not the same as the one from Bulletech, but you'll pretty much take anything with it at this point.
Yeah, so as long as they're able to control these adds and burn the boss quick enough, it's a guaranteed kill, which in terms of coordination is a relatively low check.
I assume they won't really have much problems with this as long as they stay on top of those two things and they are fine.
Dude, that bloodlust timing is just perfect as well.
It's right at the 5 minute mark.
It's right at your second potion.
It's becoming available as well.
So you just press that.
Obviously some people have to go back down to the spylacary phase,
but they got off almost all of their damage.
And so this additional downstairs phase
should be chill, assuming that everybody has
the required, you know, maybe like 30 second,
45 second cooldowns here.
Where the fuck are you doing in the center here, bud?
It's fine.
You don't take your little spot.
You don't have to dodge the ghost from the back.
Okay, I don't know.
You can just walk in there like that.
What? I'm surprised you're allowed to. I'm glad to do that.
Um, okay. It's a great spot to be, why not?
Alright. Well, that probably is the last out of the fight
that they're going to have to kill, judging by the HP of the boss here. That lesson portion is massive.
About 30% of the boss's HP now in that case as well. They're doing a great job of keeping
the room clear of ads. Of course, we do have another set coming in now. We're going to drag the boss over
there, get some grips to make everything stack on top of the boss. Get it right
into the AOE so they can remove those shields
and let the warrior cleave just go.
This is probably the last set, right?
Yeah.
That's super clean.
DPS DK came out super clutched for them.
Absolutely nowhere on the meters,
but did manage to pull the one skeleton over to the boss.
He went down to that middle section twice.
Yeah, he did.
And he probably bottom fragged the meters on that guy too.
So glad that he's in there providing what he can.
DK utility, really, really showing why the raid buff is
so powerful on the volley of the soil coiler.
We do have one more round up go that they're gonna have to kill, but it looks like that hasn't been much of an issue.
They sent the strike team down. They're gonna be taking care of that.
You can see upstairs while the hat is alive, everyone's gonna slowly pull towards the center as well.
So it's a little bit annoying to deal with, but nothing too bad, boss.
Dropping off one percent here, and it is going to be a one-shot for Liquid on the first boss.
Let's see a trick it.
What's the loop?
What the hell is that?
It's Wyss. It is absolutely terrible.
We are glad to be here. I mean that is the entdagger, but like is that what is
Desired here. No, you definitely we're looking for a healer trinket. That would be probably the best item that you can look for off that boss
So whiz it's all good. We're on the board
We've got a boss down and the great news is we can probably run that boss back a few times
I know that they were planning on killing or a crafting two-handed stabs on like all their ranged DPS that
that tended to be the strategy, maybe there's a world where the double int attacker gets
some use.
Yeah.
So I have another question now.
Okay.
So now that we killed the first boss, a lot of the raid opens up.
Okay.
Are we going to be going to kill off the random generals that we can kill now for VOE
purposes?
Absolutely.
Almost as assuredly.
Yeah.
I don't know if it's necessarily something they prioritize right off the bat, you
know they might just go kill another boss and open up in a little bit more trash
for them to do you know like going and killing the turtles right now would be
great because there's another lieutenant at the end of the hallway right so you
can you know do something that makes sense efficiency wise the lost pinatas will
be next for sure the other interesting thing that did this rate is the view
we's apparently scale as you go further into the next episode deeper you go the
higher animal that the bees will be yeah yeah early ones are gonna be as
valuable well here's one right here with track loop this is one of them
Right, right that was awesome. Did we get any view easy that we hit we would have for sure seen one of them click it
Oh, yeah, they would have looked a lot more excited to yeah now
They're channeling the power of friendship to open up this door. He'll be why is this like?
I think it's a it's a cool interaction to happen within the raid, but
Maybe the channel takes too long. They started this with like smolder on yeah
It did it with smolder on and then they did it again like on
Dementia's last boss and both of those were like cool
No, I think it's cool blood for the blood gun, okay, okay
All right, so now they're gonna be walking into the twin fangs room
No, we'll be able to see like where they go. I believe that the lost explorers is to the right here
Yeah
Or is it in tune signals?
I think it's the left. Oh, no. Yeah, it's left. It's left. It's left
Yeah, in Tombstone.
Yeah, well they've got like a nice little intermission. They got about 10 to 15 minutes of trash to look forward to.
Bro, what is up with the trash on this raid? Why is there so much?
Oh, it's fantastic. You know, the designers put a lot of hard work into making sure that you feel as grief as possible on your way towards the bosses,
which we can all love. It's, individually, each a small chance at a BOE.
The lieutenants are not the only ones that drop BOEs.
They just have a very, very, very heightened chance of dropping them compared to the normal trash bomb.
Oh, I thought it was only lieutenants.
No, we've uh, we've killed like a random void walker in the last raid and he's dropped a DOE
But it's like a it's a abysmally small chance for that to be the case
So who knows maybe they hit so we're grateful
We're so used to watching like heroic splits where they have a specific lockout that has the first boss dead
So none of this trash is there. Yeah, and then they go back and kill this colleague after the fact
Just so they don't have to do all the trash in between that like seeing them kill this is like
They could they could just zone out go kill it in the next split then zone out go kill in the next split
Do the soft reset to where the trashes spawns?
I'm just offering up all alternative options. Yeah
This read does look a little like a little dear chat. It's kind of the same vibes
You kind of got your whole thing troll theme going on. This does look like the
the uh...
the zool platform
i i i see what they're saying
this is the green version of that right that was the red version
it's it's only a matter of time before we have to fight mithrax again the well-known
melee friendly boss
i mean listen
mithrax might be one of the go to the ultimate bosses
he's like it's like mithrax is a cool
those two are fantastic
i'm not so certain that they could have designed a boss that was worse for
melee
mithrax?
It was a fun experience.
I'm surprised you, like, dude,
we had an experience where we were playing 4 Melee,
and that was 2 Melee, too many, and we dropped down to 2.
And we just started scrolling Battleshell.
Yeah, it was one of those fun ones where, like,
at any moment you could die or screw everyone over, you know?
If you were stacked atop those tiles.
Yeah, yeah, and then the little MC circle came up.
That was really cool.
But, you know, it was fun in its own unique way.
You know, visual clarity was not exactly
the greatest thing on the eye, either,
when he was choosing where to shoot the beam.
Chad, if you guys zone into this raid as well,
if you want a nice tip, every single one of these tombs
that you open up, you actually can get 29 gold.
Now, if you spawn an ad that pulses AOE,
and if you open up too many of them, you will wipe.
But you'll be richer for it.
I'm going to hook every single one down.
You ever pull this entire trash room,
and the little work ride guys all come out and cast?
No, I haven't had that.
Oh my God, you get deleted if that's the case.
Our healing priest literally clicked every single tune
for 29 gold per and wiped us the other day.
And he probably just funded his own repair bill for that.
So it sounds worth it.
He goes, I don't even think it's covered in America.
Oh my God, someone said, face crime, brocolo.
That wasn't even a pinultimate boss.
No.
But it was a fantastic boss.
You just, what was the voice lines?
Yeah, no, he just sounded funny, but he was like,
He's like old man falling down the stairs.
What a boss.
Mechanical failure in terms of design.
I can't believe that you just went right the entire time.
Did you guys ever hear what the intended solve for that boss was?
That you have multiple people on multiple different tracks.
Well, you were supposed to jump over the lines.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Uh-huh wasn't that buggy no no there it was a real thing if the line was rotating towards you
Yeah, ran at it and jumped you would actually jump over the line knock at the debuff
I thought it was jumping over it was buggy. I was it was actually pretty easy. Mm-hmm
It was just not as easy as everyone going the same direction. Oh my gosh
We have made it to the Lost Explorers boss room these three
Tortolans they've gotten trapped in the venomous abyss and being corrupted a little bit
they're gonna turn big and red we are gonna have to dispatch them wait they're
not corrupted they're just trying to open the lucha well yeah they open the
chest and then there's a evil spirit in it that takes over them it's like a it's
like if it at the end of the mythic plus dungeon if you click the loot box and
then you got mind-controlled everybody will click the loot box because well we
play World of Warcraft we can't help with this this is the boss where I
said they would wipe for the first time so I'm excited to see whether or
not that is the case I've got a nice whole count of two on this one predicted
so one of the main changes between mythic and heroic of this fight is every
single time you actually walk into one of those crates kind of like you were
alluding to it actually puts the bleed on the entirety of the raid as opposed to
on individual players yeah the only other main mechanic that was different
between heroic and mythic is instead of there being a bunch of mushrooms
across the platform that you get to use to jump over the fire line and
instead is one singular mushroom yeah so the entire rate has to take mushrooms
synced together if one person is late or early either the entire way to that
person is food early is grief yeah early is incredibly grief there's a lot of
classes that can get past the fire even classes you wouldn't expect you know
warriors can just leap through it really are you kidding me yeah they just leap
right on through it's so strange but yeah it's not necessarily a difficult
mechanic taking the mushroom over the fire wave it's mainly the point of
struggle or pressure on them will be one clearing the boxes in time so where they
don't blow up and two not overwhelming themselves with the bleed stacks from
soaking the boxes so I didn't check the vod so I think that there was a rumor at
the beginning of the week that if you had two of the Tortolan stacked on top
of one another you gave them all the DR is it is it still like that or are
you allowed to have two stacks I believe you're allowed to have them
stacked for whatever reason the dungeon journal wording got changed to
explicitly say that having them within range of each other will make them get
shielded in DR. But that's only three. But it's still three. The wording, yeah, the
wording is still just weird though. It implies that it's any of them. Yeah. But
it's not the case. I think specifically is it's it's not I can only
be next to one other term. That's that's not supposed to be. I don't
I see first made on my friend the the blink the blink Nova
I think is something that you also have to watch out for on heroic and normal
While the mob does like teleport it does pretty considerable amount of fall-off damage
Yeah, you could basically just stack that on top of the other bosses on heroic and normal
But I'm I think you're gonna really want to make sure that you're leading like doing it on like the leading edge
The turtle that you're trying to keep it stacked on top of yeah
I predict that they might wipe maybe due to efficient
incident of them getting the fish in a little bit late or maybe they fall behind on the boxes
and you know the bleed component of them stresses them to fall behind on boxes to where they
might get the fish late but we'll see.
There isn't many web conditions on this boss.
There is a damage check again.
Once you feed each turtle one time with the fish you cannot feed them again.
So after they feed each individual turtle one time the fourth cast coming from the
untargetable red mob will kill you and you will die. The goal is that mob's
energy goes up to 100 and then he starts a raid wipe cast. If you feed one of the
turtles with the fish it will reset his energy and then that specific turtle
will do their designated ult for about 30 seconds. Yeah this is the same raid comp
that we had on next holly right? Yeah I don't think they're gonna swap
anything in and out I think these groups are very rigid and set within
characters that they have in them. If they were to swap any characters in or out it would probably
be already assigned to be in another split. What order do you think they're going to go?
I think a pretty standardized order is Gebo Nama Iku. That seems to be
fairly understood as like an easy pattern. Which ones are those? What should Gebo do?
So Gebo's the mushroom. You want to get that out of the way early. It's like a relatively
easy thing to deal with and then it does cause a lot of problems in terms of what you can
stack later on the fight. For example, you want to make sure all three turtles die at
the same time, correct? Otherwise they go berserk. Gebo, when he is ulting, is basically not
easy to stack round because there's a lot of room denial from the fire.
He's annoying.
So you want to ideally get ahead of the cleave on him early and deal with that
and cleave him down and then let him just roam around the room solo and cleave the
other too well. You don't want to find yourself in a scenario later on in the fight where you
feel obligated to cleave Gebo more and you've been behind on cleaving Gebo more, but he's
just walking through fire the entire time.
So for context, he cannot be tanked, right? He literally just walks around aimlessly in
the middle of the room.
Yeah, he has no threat table. He just walks around the inner ring. He's not tankable.
He doesn't have any mechanics associated with him.
And then he said Nama second?
And then Nama second, just because it's an easy one to deal with.
Which one is Earl?
hers is the three group soaks that knock you back common strategy on that one is
you just make a line with these group soaks you soak the first one that's
closest to the boss it'll knock you back you get into the second soak with the
knockback that knocks you back into the third one she repeats that twice and
then it leaves a little patch on the ground on mythic specifically
I'm pretty sure the knockback scales with the amount of people you have it as well right yeah yeah yeah so you basically need
everybody to be in every single soak so the intended line strat will
probably be the one they want and then Iku the last one is the same one as
heroic it makes fire nice you just touch the opposite color all right so here is
the first pull for liquid on the loss explorers immediately right off the bat
like Atlas was calling out earlier Gebo and Nama are marked with hunters marked
so it seems quite likely that they're going to be focusing down a bunch of
damage into Gebo to make sure that he is the the turtle that takes the
most damage before that ult goes off yeah they want to get ahead of
Gebo Gebo is very easy to make up damage for on later when he's not
doing anything annoying because he just walks around the room you're not
pressured into having to stack things on him but if you get ahead of it now it
would be good for a period of time where you feel obligated to force the
cleave the other ones where you don't feel bad about it. So those first crates
coming out right now every time they run over the crate a bleed will be applied
to the entire area they did a two-stack there let it run out and then
they're gonna do it looks like a two-stack. Yeah pretty simple just break them in stacks of two
make sure you're on top of it the second the debuff falls off you
make sure to grab another two. Yeah they got a one-stack there they're not going to extend it
They're waiting for it to run out. They got one last crate left. That's King's
Actually like that the way that they did that blink Nova really just making sure
That scroll sage is like super far and they've successfully fed the first fish and they've done Nama
No, they're getting Nama's old first, okay
This goes so everyone in the first one next to the boss closest to the boss will get hit first
Like you're saying that is like pretty much everybody in the entire raid. How far did they get knocked on?
I don't know, but decently far, but everyone has ways to get back it looks like, so go up
chill.
Jump number one complete, now they get to do it one more time.
Now those leaps, they do physical damage, right?
So people who have plate wearers or potentially even balusters, take way less damage from
that.
Yeah.
Cool, alright.
Relatively not scary right now, they still have to stay on top of the boxes, obviously
they don't want to be late on the boxes but still make it into each one of these
So there is some time constraint, but you know, it's a relatively easy set of volts to deal with so they're not pressed for too much time
And I mean, I'm gonna get those looking pretty good
I mean that mosses at 50% HP the fact that he's walking around aimlessly, and you're just getting the other two
I feel like the strategy that look with deploying makes a lot of sense and we're through one out of three of volts
So quarter of the way through the fight roughly right now. Yeah, maybe a little less
I guess this also makes sense to do Nama first because these knockbacks you're basically able to have a hundred percent uptime
Whenever you have to start doing the mushroom, whenever you do the Gebo one, there's a decent amount of melee uptime that you end up losing there.
I am surprised though that they did not opt into doing Gebo first. If I had to guess they would do Gebo next, I would be shocked if they did a Gebo third.
I feel like that would be a little decrease, but they're smarter than me. That's why I'm on the couch and they're over there.
A little two stack there.
Three?
We actually got extended. Yeah, someone got hit by one at the end. So a little bit of extra healing, but three-step looks pretty reasonable
Yeah, I don't let that bad even a four
Yeah, you saw it there. They got extended a good bit. They have the fish
Forbes and Connor I sold it. Oh, he's got a bit of time though. You can see on his boss frames
Morzaki is the one casting final ascension if he gets that cast off and they like
So they're saving them up for the last they are doing get the last okay, so this is gonna be the fire and ice phase
There's a whole bunch of debuffs going out.
The strat that we've been using is like fire in the middle ice on the outside.
I wonder what they're going to do for you.
As long as they're separated and have their distinct partners for them to touch, then it
won't be too big of an issue.
Very important to note that they cannot cleave people with these circles.
It will give them the debuff.
The debuff hurts pretty bad and then they won't have a partner.
Super clean.
All debuffs are already gone.
There we go.
The boss is pretty low.
The boss is really low.
You're looking for them to get about 33% of the bosses off in every single old phase.
And then you can have a little bit of extra time with these because you have to wait for
the last cast on the guy.
Something to note about this mechanic by the way is the way that these, the way it
determines who gets fired and who gets ice is based off of the roles.
So like range DPS will get fire, melee DPS will get ice and you can kind of split
up the room based off of that.
And let people know where to go.
You still have that fired part of the room in the middle of the room.
somebody with an ISD buff has not cleared yet, let's give our tank their fad and go pick that up.
Yeah.
Go on now, Rims clear.
It is funny, the tank does get a circle sometimes, so you know you can't just pair up with all
the DPS players.
Somebody has to be aware of the fact that the tank does have a debuff and communicate
well enough to know that somebody at the opposite element has to make sure the touch
is circle.
But yeah, we're down through two ults now, so the only one now we have left is
Gebo.
Unsurprisingly, they are now trying to leave on Gebo and get a little bit ahead
of him while he becomes harder to hit during his ult as he's walking through fire.
They still have to make sure that they're on top of these crates and getting the fish out.
But the next final sentient cast is about 26 seconds away.
Oh, they're so far.
So they have a bunch of time.
The damage check on this seems very, very, very lenient and they will not hit those
are assuming that nobody dies.
Well, the thing is, the Gevo phase is the one where things can all go wrong.
If somebody hits that mushroom early, everybody will die.
It would be shocking if that was the case, um, you know,
a guild that's coordinated as much as them would just count it down.
It's literally just get away from the mushroom.
Okay. Go into the mushroom now.
Like this is probably the calls.
There is a little bit of annoyance around baiting the mushroom, right?
Because the timing of the mushroom on mythic is a little annoying
where the second mushroom pretty much spawns the second you hit the count.
So baiting the second one, baiting the second one basically depends
on where you bait the first one.
Yeah.
So you need to be very good about your place
and make sure the fire puddle is far enough away
that it doesn't overlap with that group's mushroom.
They've already got the first one down there.
There you go.
Right now, that's a great spot right there.
Where are they going to drop the fire off?
Literally across the room.
I think they're just completely far away from it.
Yeah, ideally, you do want it to be a little bit ahead
of Gebo, where you do drop it off,
because it spawns a gigantic fire
match that's on the ground, right?
So you don't want to restrict your play space too much,
but, um.
Yeah, like look.
See?
Yeah, Gebo's rotating around the room.
So like, let's say this.
Here's the new mushroom.
it's on the raid yeah we're good we find ourselves in a funny spot though this
boss is like dying in the middle of Gebo's ult which is a bit chaotic they
don't want to actually kill these two too early because they need to go over and
swap to Gebo but if these two do die Gebo getting a damage amp does not
really matter all the range you're hitting Gebo like solo right now
Oh, now the bosses are getting DR their shielded
Okay, Scott's Scott's just dragging the boss away. All right. Wow super clean from a nice one shot percent
But they should be okay. Yeah, this this is freeze. Oh, I regret my prediction
Show us the bags
Two bags. What's in the box? You gotta go? Oh? Oh, no, no bags
But we've got tears over happy anyways nice, which tears that do you know no clue
Can tell it looks like a snake. I'm not gonna say anything, but maybe one class is a little bit better than the rest
Is Blizzard already released hotfix notes for this patch every class that was on it that was a little bit too weak
They got buffed any class that was not present. They're perfect
yep and the rate has wiped to jump it off the edge we will not be going to
that shoot the intuentials yep I wonder where the DK is you think any of them
are gonna be nice enough to scroll down no you think they're polite enough to
cryptics to not do so I think they respect him too much that's fair what
do you think about it every single grip that he does that's important is
about a 10k dps increase yeah where were they in that fight again I don't
Oh okay, um, he was probably was trying to get the growth of boxes. Oh my god. Look at the leaderboard
Liquid's on. Oh my god. We're there. So found them
Wait a minute, so they had they they jumped off because they were wanting to go to the next boss
They're not gonna go and pull scissor act. They forgot there's a lieutenant at the end of this way
So somebody called what about the BUE and then now they ran it back down the same wing and they're gonna make sure
So then they'll jump off and go again?
Yeah, my expectation when you said, are they going to go kill the lieutenants was going to be, they kill the boss and then go kill the lieutenant in that wing and then backtrack, but they made a little oopsie, they forgot.
All good.
I got my order mixed up because we killed Sentinels first so that any wing that we built first was actually backtracked.
The promise thing about this now though is they have set up these split groups right, so they're going in here with characters that are stronger than the rest of their groups but they are so far ahead of the CPS check.
They're getting a very very accurate read on how doable this is in different groups.
So it seems like the first two at least are putting up almost no fight whatsoever which
is going to be really really good for the rest of their splits that they set up coming
in next day, day and a half.
This is looking very clean so far, but I feel like we expected these first two bosses
to be relatively easy.
How it's simple, the two incentives we have it's in a good way, right?
I don't think it's a numbers thing. It's just
Yeah, I think it is a healing check. Yeah, so I do symptoms on heroic does a non negligible amount of damage
You know, they there's a decent respectable amount of red damage that the players are taking
Especially when people are kind of like reading stacks and doing weird little shenanigans in terms of to target cleaving
But liquid has a very very nifty little add-on that helps their range
remarkably so with making sure they can arrange a both of the
Sentinels with a tick rate even on the circle that tells them when they're
going to get their stack so that's probably going to be a significant
advantage over you know these other guilds that are pulling the loss in
which case liquid will have significantly less stacks across the
road than everybody else
Oh, right thing I think is his name right this guy's a freak
Now he fears oh
What's the one that fears and knocks back right? Oh my god this guy this guy's like what if you put every single trash mechanic in one
Single mob in it. It was all of the bad ones at once. Yep, which means he's got to be primed for some loot
I just took a look at Liquid's item level on the Lost Explorers, they are 306.26.
Probably a little bit deflated in a split, all things considered, but yeah, that's really not that bad.
Can you take a look at the characters and maybe determine who the mains might be of this group?
Well the mains are going to be the people that are the lowest item of the day.
Yeah, ideally.
So you're looking for specifically people who have not crafted anything.
Okay, so Smacked PR is 302.9.
I think it's hard to tell at a glance who hasn't crafted it.
I can see the people who has like pretty low at a moment.
Troll 2 has 300.9.
Oh, we got a BOE!
Really?
Yep, I believe somebody got a belt.
It's not BOE, right? It's BOP.
It's tradeable BOP, yes.
But Shay did click, we have seen a belt.
And I think it was a plate belt, if I'm not mistaken, if I saw that correctly.
But we did get one.
Maybe something for Wallace there?
Could be, yeah.
And just based off the meter, something is telling me that might be Wall-Life's alt who
has sent a craft.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
It's always weird because you think that the characters that do the more damage are the
older, but not the newer.
But also Wall-Life is Jesus, so it might just be Wall-Life doing Wall-Life things.
That guy is a warrior.
Like in MDI, when nobody was playing Warrior, he was playing him, because he just thought
it was good.
It was good.
And it was good.
Also a remarkably good DK player as well.
You know, you think of how much damage he was doing for Ekko prior to joining Liquid last year, and that guy is really, really good at that class too.
That guy is just remarkably good at everything.
Yeah, and one of the youngest people on the roster now.
Really?
He's a little baby.
I don't know the exact age, but I think he is the youngest person on the roster.
I know he was in the Netherlands last year at that Liquid facility.
He's not here this time, though.
He's not here?
No.
Unfortunately.
Nah.
But yeah, I don't want to attribute an age to him, but I don't know, but um, I would
I'm just kidding, I think he's like 20.
Oh, that's surprisingly young.
Yeah, he's very young.
I'll get confirmation.
Nah.
Or it's more fun to not have any confirmation.
It's more fun to just make it up and state of this fact.
Okay, yeah, he's 14.
There you go.
We've got some young people in the gillip.
I think both fired up and Eric joined the good one they were a team, right?
Yeah, Boomi also is really, really young as well.
That's surprising considering he's literally been a world champ in other games that he already played for like eight years.
Yeah, yeah, whatever you got it, you got it.
But also everything is relative, right? You're looking at this roster and the majority of them are 30 to 32, so...
What's the average age of the roster, do you think?
28, but it's like heavily being pulled down by young people, you know?
so but but on average they're either extremely old or extremely young yeah if
you were to get a median age of the gilder probably like 29 to 30 okay
yeah let me get the casters who are like on average like
what's our average age with 35 I am the youngest person I'm 29
30s coming you excited yeah stoked
I still feel young. I still feel young. So 30 is a great time. I considered 30 to be like the beginning of my problem
I'm excited for my prime then
It's just getting better. Yeah. All right. We're seeing the in-tune sentinels
What is the main difference between heroic and mythic on this fight Alice?
So this one has probably the least
Significant mythic mechanic out of all the early bosses, which is surprising. Yeah
You'll just see two people on each side
basically get a red circle and they just got a touch. It's literally like the
silliest thing ever. Yeah. It's just if you're a red circle, touch another red
circle. If you don't have one, let the red circles do their thing because if you hit
them you get knocked back and you will die. I do think that there is a bit more
punish, like at least during testing this fight was a bit more punishing for
people who were trying to stand in the middle and then in addition to that as
well, one of the Intune Sentinels, the one that like baits that big green
slime, it's baited on to nearby players. If that gets baited on
somebody who's standing out in the middle of the room. It's so
grief. It's like on mythic yet it is disaster on mythic on
heroic you kind of deal with it on mythic it's probably not
going to be super tenable. I also think that where you drop
those red puddles as a group, that's also going to be super
relevant.
Yeah, you're playing with a restricted play space and
you're dealing with a boss that is going to have some level
of raid damage that the other two did not. So that will
probably be a pain point for them on this boss, if any at
all, I don't think any of the coordination checks are
going to be difficult for them. They will get in the
group so it's they'll drop the puddles off in the right spot they'll be able to
clear the red circle relatively pain-free we might have a funny math
incident who knows you know no way I think it's never ruled out anybody and
any guild ever could just you know have a funny alright chat I need you
guys to answer a question for me what is two plus two if you guys can answer
that because that's what the Raiders are trying to add up to the thing is
is the map section is not necessarily hard. It's trusting people around you, you know. Sometimes
you feel like you got the right of way and then you end up just running over somebody on
your way through the intersection.
Yeah, everyone just type 6, 7. Never mind. We can't ban half the chat. Sorry. Okay, so
that we've been saying that the mechanics are relatively easy. There is one bad situation
you can find yourself in right if you still have a red circle when you get to
the intermission phase yeah that's not great oh we literally you're just gonna
lose one person it's it's not great but you know there's plenty of time to clear
those red circles I think you know in terms of scale they have put mechanics
like that before in the raid in the past if you were to put that on 10 people
they would still be able to one-shot it likely and luckily it does not go on
nearly as many people. They won't struggle with that mechanic.
I think it's six people it goes on, if I remember.
Yeah.
It's anything like it was in testing.
Yeah, you just find a little partner.
And it's like so visually obvious,
like nothing else on the fight looks like it,
to the point where you don't really have the opportunity
to get confused on how to handle it.
You just need to be a little pre-spread.
That's all.
Yeah.
Before it goes out, and then you're good to go.
All right, so the Raiders there sitting here talking
about what they're going to be doing on the Intune Sentinels.
Again, for those of you who are just joining us,
Liquid are doing mythic splits.
This is the first time that they have entered mythic.
It is actually very likely that they are going to be the first guild
to reach three out of eight mythic.
It is very likely that they are going to be able to get world first
on the in-team Sentinels here.
Basically the main process for Liquid this week
is try to get as much gear as possible.
It seems like we're getting closer and closer to the reset.
Liquid have determined that Heroic was super hard,
took them a lot more time than they originally anticipated.
But with that being the case, now we are finally seeing on Sunday
The first couple of Mythic bosses, the Intune Sentinels here, are going to be the third boss that they have pulled.
They have one shot the other two bosses.
I think it's, I don't want to say likely, I think it's pretty conceivable that they one-shot this boss as well.
Yeah, I would agree. I don't think it necessarily has difficult challenges that present itself in terms of mechanics.
I don't think that they're going to run to many healing issues that other guilds are dealing with on this boss, perhaps.
I just think they have, you know, the tools required to get less stacks on the raid and Jesus Mood healers
So they're gonna be totally fine through this. I'd be shocked if they wiped maybe math goof it at most
Is what I could foresee. I feel like most of the mistakes I've seen to the math on this fight are to people being locations
Yeah, what are those bosses doing right now? Oh, they're spitting on each other. There's spit, yeah, there's spit monster on each other. There's swapping spit
Oh, okay. Yeah, one of them is spitting green monster. The other one is spitting the strawberry monster
Okay, yeah, we got some kinky robots. That's sure kind of we don't talk about that. Yeah, they swap spit frequently
I won't ask again whenever they show up in the middle. I mean this one's just really letting it lose suit
They're just doing it right in front of everyone. Yeah, the worst part is they spit all over each other and drench each other and then
Turn over to you as a player and start slamming the ground like yeah
Yeah, you like that
here we go yeah just cover your brother and here we go you're going to slams oh
yeah uh-huh I'll do it again too yeah check it out he's gonna get me next time
crazy style dude geez you gotta give it to them they're hydrated you know they've
got the fluids to make it work. They definitely are. I'm gonna take a sip of
it. It's not theirs though. Yeah. I've got monster rehab here. We're just
basically waiting on them to fix up their tech so that they can pull and
get it clean. Anytime spent making sure that all of their
available tools add on wise or related are functional is good. It is
going to make the rest of these pulls on this boss a little bit more efficient and
making sure that they're all turned on in case there is any troubleshooting that
needs to happen is also very important. It's so jarring to me to see THD with the
exact same UI he's already had. Hit the settings and it's like oh he's not on
LVI anymore he's on a UI just like everyone else he just decided to make
it look exactly like default unchanged LVI. He probably spent more time
setting up this UI than he's ever spent on this UI in the past?
Well yeah, it was plug and play before he just downloaded the thing, didn't tweak a single thing,
went on to it and let it rip. I can respect that, you know, the man has a certain sense of comfort
in what he knows and he spent the time and effort to make that a thing for himself.
I would do the same thing. I did do the same thing, you know? I spent a lot of time making
sure I can replicate a lot of the features in midnight as a whole with all these rampant UI
changes that they've enforced to make it as close as possible to what we had prior.
Looks like we're using some self-ping tech. We just saw THD make a map.
Oh probably for whenever you get debuff with the mythic debuff.
Yeah. Or well the mythic debuff itself just has like a giant red circle. If
anything they might be doing the math separately where they don't want to
do like look at the orbs and stuff like that. Just like all twos ping yourself
and then you see the ping go off and you have like a visual representation of
of like don't touch that person.
Interesting.
I could be either one.
I could see that.
It could be either one.
Do you have a star auger-esque?
A bit, yeah.
There's a lot of mechanics that you know you can kind of do with that.
Even Mescalia the Soul Coiler, a great way in terms of like making sure that you get
dispelled properly on the walls just pinging yourself up there.
Soul Hunters.
I remember it was super useful in Soul Hunters just ping yourself whenever you, like,
we had three different groups for pings.
pings we had like attack was group one yeah default ping was group two and assist
was group three and you would always just look for your icon this this is the
boss pool that could put liquid at the top of the leaderboard people have been
asking all week where liquid an echo where's method why aren't there the
leaderboard they're there now you can see them in the number slot 9 slot this
boss will put them up to rank one and if you don't want to miss any of this
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Make sure you don't miss any of the action, because the last thing you want to do is
see the loot drop on the ground and then get hit with an ad,
and then you're left wondering, which of these characters got the gear?
Yep.
Any gifters for those of you...
Any gifters!
...who feel like getting a little bit of a charitable contribution from your fellow viewers.
You're also feeling charitable.
Of course, we've got our charity partner for the race as well.
Yep, we had a really, really funny segment earlier where we dressed up as Snake's boss cosplay at 20,000.
That's what we just fulfilled. The next one at 25,000 is a random PowerPoint presentation. Super, super ominous.
Could be just about anything in that one. 30,000 gets a Caster's leg waxed, and 35,000 is an upgraded Snake cosplay.
Oh, THD's targeted the boss. I feel like the pull is imminent here.
Yep.
We've got 10 gifted from Candy Fan, 5 gifted from Jadiver. We've got 10 from Black Bible T.
Oh, it's raining in here. It's just raining. It's raining gifted subs more than these bosses are raining spit onto each other
What did he mean by that chat chat what did he mean by that?
Gifting some subs as well five little five pack
love that
Any moment now any moment now the losses are targeted they are inching up into position in a way that makes it look like they want to
scrap
Maybe they want to get some of the monster or maybe THD is getting tired of waiting around they're getting a little antsy
So what kind of loot is there from this one is this a tier boss as well tier boss, it's got a two-hand strength weapon
It's got a random assortment of weird things. There is a decent
comparatively
strength trinket I
I don't know if it's Agi as well, it might be, but it's like a stacking haste buff sort of a situation going.
Oh, 25 second pull timer?
Yeah, but the thing is, is like these guys all are just kitted to the teeth in the last two strength and Agi trinkets.
So this is a great boss for the community as a whole, who didn't get lucky with strength and Agi trinkets off the last two.
But for Liquid, they don't care about the trinket outside of like crest upgrades.
But it is great for crest upgrades.
Yeah, so we're not sad.
We're not sad.
All right guys, we are gonna be thrown it on over to a monster energy listening where you guys can hear the comms of the world
First in tomb sentinels pull by liquid
Think should get crank first red soak is soon red make sure you're going the corner
Big green is happening now green droplets are out. Probably. It's like a one thing. I don't know if it's a personal
Blast the green ad maybe try to grab one see how it feel
watch the proto venom
one on blue flight, that's the middle
right side? there's a 4
drop your puddles soon
3, 2, 1 now
proto venom, everyone spread for proto venom
everyone spread
everyone no one else moved
you're not running to anyone who doesn't have it
ok, intermission
friend, intermission now
look at your divas
two's under the boss
under the boss one's jump threes find them one's jump threes find them there's
only two people left yeah they did it they did it go to your sides green ads
funding soon oh we can play that it's fine after this but I can during the red
soak maybe maybe like cryptics amsy here cuz during an ad right yeah I think
This is a good ANZ for that.
Let me get a lot of these soaps here.
Get in the soak.
I can even get the last one.
Red, you guys are dropping pools in 3, 2, 1, now.
Get out.
Nice.
Shifting protovenom in 5.
Shifting protovenom in 5.
Spread out right now.
Let them move only.
Nice.
green drop what's in a red soak? Another red soak here.
So mostly we can decide I can get all of these.
Yeah, a lot of green puddles here by the way.
We need to grab these now.
Get these drops.
Nice, red soak.
Then we'll put it again.
You guys don't have to condense it as much,
just don't take the ticks.
And make sure you put it closer to the wall
rather than the side.
I think that's like more value space.
Okay, shifting protiveendem in 10
into an intermission.
Make sure you have enough space, Redside. Make sure you can have enough space to play here. Give yourself room. It's happening now. Spread out. Pre-spread, pre-spread.
Pre-spread, do the shifting. Intermission's in 10. We'll have time to deal with it. Get the green droplets at the same time. Watch HP.
Where's your guy, Ferdinand?
Oh.
Oh.
Spread out.
Spread out.
What happened?
I ran into... I think I ran into you.
Oh, fine play.
Yeah, keep going, maybe. Res, boom.
Yeah, clear with the other side is definitely bad.
If you're standing in the middle of your griefer...
Yep, don't stand in the middle, please.
How deep, yes, how you did?
Let me see what actually happened.
Because I, what I believe probably happened is people standing in the middle can get either side and that causes confusion.
Oh, yeah. So...
Oh, yeah. Was it? Well, no, I mean...
It was the near- They're exploring each side for sure.
I tried to go to the right first. I should have gone left first. I mean even then it was to work
How does it how does it mess up though? Cuz so now oh wait
I was a good player with someone from the other side of the room
That's what confused this cuz like look right now taking a picture
There are four things that are all spawning on the correct side
But I think instead of Goop spot clearing with his side. He clears with one of the rain for there
So then I got my head
And as soon as that happens
Fired up has no one to clear with besides someone who's on the other side of this boss
Which is what caused that to happen, but I mean if that happens like we just need to comment
What else what what is fucking us here by the way?
Can you check my puff? I don't know what killed me. What mushrooms?
Yeah, I'll check you say like what is actually fucking dish now that was big radium right there
What was that is that because of the protovenoms? I don't I don't know how it actually works. Is that when we collided?
Are there mushroom to soak this colliding?
It doesn't 10 yard range I believe or is that not true it used to do but that's when you fuck it up
It wasn't fucked up
It was fucked up
It would have hit like the right side. That's not we didn't take damage when that happened
What actually fucking bursted us right there? I'm looking at trills PV because he's the only one with uh
I mean, people playing in the mid like you spawn blobs on you so if you you have to always
soak them if there was one that would roll.
Yeah.
I think we just send them to us.
I already said on the way back down there's no way.
There's no way.
There's no way.
Literally blubber rage big.
Blubber rage big and mad.
That is off.
Fired up has anything on him. I didn't pay attention to it at least it might have worked but when I see
Okay, yeah, but like what like in this situation. Oh, that's like when it's cooked
Also, he doesn't have he didn't increase the maximum amount of or as you can increase the maximum amount of or is to display all
Cuz it's like capped up like a really low number like six. I think
Well, I don't think it's that deep
You think it's easy?
There ain't got it.
Yeah.
Like easy where we don't need to do the jumping?
I think the jumping thing helps.
Well, no, the jumping thing helps.
The ping was good too.
Yeah, only the ones can't see the ping, right?
Everyone can't see your thing.
Everyone can't see.
It's just that the reason it's just the ones
with all the twos are cleared by then.
Which one's ping again?
Is it three of the ones?
If you have one...
One's jumping ping.
One, you do not move and ping, jump if you want to.
threes are moving actively after the teaser done we are expecting to choose
the kind of clearance that it's important you do that right away
a green ads falling here
droplets are soon as well
droplets now let's get to get rid of these really quickly
get them out of the fucking way nothing no pops if nothing pops we're good
Make sure you're always targeting the green ad by the way. It actually does a shitload of damage.
Protovinum.
Protovinum now, spread, yeah.
Wall life and T.H.D. you have to meet each other.
Good, spread for intermich now. Spread for intermich.
Two's under boss.
Okay, two's under boss, one's jump, threes, find them.
Let's do a line on the back wall, by the way, this team.
There you go.
Indiscriminate to move after.
It's going off now.
Move.
OK, shifting protive NM in five.
Shifting protive NM in five.
Get a nice spread.
Nice spread on each side here.
Going out now.
Two in melee.
Good.
OK, green drops and red soaks.
Let's do these green drops fast.
Do them now.
Do them now.
Get them out of the way.
Panks always do like a little just hoover under the boss just to be safe if you have no if you feel safe
I think that's what happened. Let's pull red soak here and again. You just do it as I'll do the same line
You guys just did but just do it against the old one
That's better than using this wall in my opinion
Okay, it's going off in three two one move we're getting green droplets right before a shifting
We need to this is actually a lock-in moment shifting in three seconds pre-spread here
When you guys see the droplets after you're done clearing, just grab them.
Nice.
Get to get the droplets now.
Hey, intermission spread for intermission.
Two's under boss.
Go to center boss.
And if you're done, go under the boss.
Go under the boss when you're done.
Good ones jump threes find them.
Hey, we're done now.
I think one more.
Nice.
I need to drop my blood pool down here in the moment.
Okay.
It might spawn a green add over here, but that's fine.
Yeah.
You just swap this green add.
It might be extremely fucked.
Good.
Good.
Good.
Good.
Good.
Good.
Good.
Good.
Good.
Good.
Good.
Good.
Good.
Good.
Good.
Good.
Good.
Good.
Good.
Good.
Good.
Good.
You guys are going to watch your HP during this.
There's the ad protivinum now.
Spread, spread, spread, spread, spread, spread, spread, spread, spread, spread, spread, spread, spread.
Nice.
Ad's dead.
Red sign.
Your soak here should be pissed.
This is like no CDs, probably.
Okay.
Red soak soon.
And a new green ad.
Last one before the intermission.
We need to pump this ad as always.
guys have CDs slam on it. The breath is a little high, just throwing that out there now.
Shifting protovinum in 10, just fuck this ad. We might need to kill it. Blood side, range
if you can, like help kill this ad. Shifting protovinum soon, but just don't confuse people
on the side. Shifting protovinum now, now, now, now, now. That's okay, keep going.
Watch the blood puddle. Nice. Intermission out. Be care, care, care, care, care, care.
Two's under boss. Two's under boss. Go, go, go. Two's under boss.
And if you're done, get under the boss, too.
One's jump, three's find.
Nice. It's over, it's over, it's over.
I'm going to be like Goblin jumping in nine seconds to my size.
Just careful it's going to go this way with the lines.
I'm assuming the bosses will catch up most likely, I think,
because like you just lose damage on the green side, right? That's all it is.
Yeah.
Okay, I'll go under shit.
I'll get that.
I'll get that.
HV?
Shifting proto venom is in 15.
Make sure you fuck the green add as well.
Nice.
Shifting proto venom in five.
Shifting in five.
Spread the fuck out.
Spread out right now.
It's going out.
Spread out.
Spread out.
Nice.
Okay, green drop.
What's now?
We're going to deal with these fast.
We want them all the way done before the red soak.
But these on this back corner, by the way, this team, okay, Red Soak is going to be soon.
Is that blood?
Does the blood ever go away in this difficulty?
I don't know.
Let's try to conserve as much space as possible.
We might have to game.
Okay, blood puddles dropping in five and then green droplets as well into shifting
into intermish.
Okay, dropping puddles now.
Okay, we are spreading soon, spreading now, spreading now, spreading now, do pro, watch
green drop, let's do green drops as well, watch HP.
Intermission now, intermission right now, intermission right now.
Two is under, two is under, and even if you clear, get under do not be confusing, watch
HP, finish that ad.
Okay, and threes find the ones, threes find the ones, threes find the ones, help finish
the green ad here.
Healstone health font potentially, still a couple of ticks.
Finish it.
Yeah, I need to drop off a blood pool, yeah.
Yeah, it needs to be minned space, if possible.
Yeah, I'm putting this collar on him.
I'm gonna go to the middle.
What do you say, Yipz?
Hots are bad.
Yeah, this is gonna recover by the,
this is gonna recover.
Resh, Resh, just keep moving then, keep moving.
Get the droplets in there.
Can anyone immune it?
Yeah, I got it, I got it.
Okay.
Get the last droplets, guys.
I'm gonna get the last one.
Help, help, help, help, help, help, help.
One right over the head.
We got it, we got it, we got it.
Under the head, under the head.
Yeah, finish the ad, someone get it, watch HP.
Try not to get too close, try not to get stacks from the other group, we have very little space here.
Be both.
One group, go to the someone after this intermission.
Spread, spread, spread, spread, spread, spread, spread, spread, spread, spread, spread, spread.
I'll give you a vision.
Okay, listen, after this intermission.
I'm gonna insert this one.
After this interm- yeah, we need green droplets after this intermission.
It's looking, it's looking.
Seconds?
Yeah, so does that.
Oh.
I got CD's.
Let's put that wrong.
That's not wrong.
They're definitely a Vantus.
I should have done more damage, I guess.
Or we ignore green adds, what do you think?
Let's just handle all the other damage.
Okay, so we know we don't actually need the entire...
I mean, we had like...
Right side completely fucked up right there.
What happened on right side?
I don't know. The big puddle.
Yeah, that was nasty to well.
I don't even know how that puddle works.
That's just the tank puzzles.
I mean I could try and... I mean the last one I could have...
It doesn't really matter, does it?
Yeah, it didn't really matter. I'm in the inner interest of the problem.
That was a little hectic though.
Hello everybody, welcome back from that monster energy list and we've got some new casters
in here.
My name is Aya, I'm here with Kalamazie and Jet and we lucked out.
This is the best shift that has happened so far throughout the week I would say, Jet.
Oh yeah, we get to see some new bosses, potentially a big world first, I think that's at this point
you know, it's in the cards.
I think so.
Yeah, so we might see some Vantus runes, that was some talk about that.
I personally am kind of surprised if they did, just because you got to see what the
next boss is looking like and I don't think you know where they wiped that is like
too far off you know they could they could make that they could make that
pretty it was like eight percent on one boss like five on the other it's not
like it's that far off damage just come up between poles the more familiar
familiar you become at the fight the same time like you know yeah I think you
want to see Vashnik before I mean I guess if you get the Vashnik and it's
free you have this room it's like well whatever it is what it is yeah they're
free but the same time I mean like the fact they able to split mythic the
First three to four is going to be just an insane amount of extra loot on them when that shoot rolls around.
You're looking at essentially like, what, four bosses worth of loot versus like, 16 or whatever they're going to do in splits?
That's an incredible amount of extra loot here.
Yeah, they got a lot of weapons, not many trinkets at all, but quite a bit of weps, which is good.
Yeah.
Can't go wrong with those.
Absolutely. Here is another pole. They were very close on that last one. So I think jet prediction could be correct here
Not the caster curse too early. Well, I think my official prediction was one
Okay today earlier on the desk. I was like at most they're gonna wipe three times. Okay, I think I said three four
Tortoil and explorers whatever they are the Turtles and one yeah, I could swap those. I think that might be the case
Oh, yeah, you do a little swap room. Yeah, probably would I think she'll commit an advantage for in here
It looks like as well. Well, some people are already meant for full attacks. It's kind of hard to tell
Who vant is what?
Okay, so the main difference in this fight that we realized so we know from mythic here, right?
So that mechanic just came out there that shifting proto venom
That's what the main mythic change in the first phase we had to collide with players with the same
Orange circle circle around them. This intervention here a jet saw actually a few minutes ago
So what they're doing is really interesting the players that are jumping are ones
The players that are moving around still are threes, and all the twos go to Melee.
That's done because the boss actually obscures the marks other players after about five seconds
in that intermission, making it hard to find your correct partner to equal four.
But that jumping Melee slash moving around indicates I have two, I have one, or I have three,
which makes it really easy to work with.
And besides that, I mean, it lifts yourself up in rage, and that's the fight.
Yeah.
You were furiously writing down notes.
Well, I mean, what are some of the other things we're writing down?
Just have a minute and rage.
I don't, I mean nobody killed us on PTR.
I'm pretty sure that they added that vision obfuscation, whatever you want to call it,
like the swirly purple stuff, after PTR.
I didn't see it there testing it, so it adds like an extra layer to the fight, but it's
not something that's super challenging.
Yeah, exactly.
I don't really understand the point of the circle mechanic, like, what's it for?
Well, what kind of complexity does it introduce to the fight, you know?
Like the mythic...
The orange circles, yeah.
They just kind of clear it, you know?
Yeah, clearly, boss.
They just clear it, I mean granted, yeah.
There is like barely anything happening on this boss, you know, you have the pools.
The way that works is that there's like one big soak and then you soak it, everybody
gets a debuff and then at the very end of the debuff, everybody drops a pool
And so you can't just go off on your own and go do whatever
after you do the soak.
You've got to actually wait for the thing to happen.
But oh, look at that.
They did an intermission, but a lot of people
were able to just clear off of each other on the same side,
which was pretty nice.
Yeah, it's really nice.
You have like five seconds to initially see the marks on opposing,
I guess, friends, allied units, and then they become obscured.
Yeah.
The largest they go down, they have a rest available
and get him back up here.
One thing about that mythic mechanic in phase one that we talked about is that if you come in contact with a player that does not have the mark, it does a lot of damage and knocks you back as well.
Did you steal that from Cams and Chad?
I know it, I know she's here.
He's in Chad.
Oh, of course it did.
Hello, Mr. Cams.
Hello, how are you?
How are you?
He's taking your credit, man.
There you go, yeah.
By the end of the minute, we lost Malarkas too there, but he had a resume able.
He's back up.
So the big thing here is going to be beating the seven minute rage in this fight, which I would assume with them running splits, this might be one of their heavier stack groups just based on what's going on.
get in here to the bosses initially.
But like you said, the advantage is the possibility.
Damage does come up between poles a bit
based on just familiarity and things.
But yeah, that seven minute cutoff mark
we're really looking for here to make sure they beat that
or it's gonna beat us again.
They look pretty good on pace right now.
They're about three and a half,
a little bit over three and a half.
Bosses a little bit under 50%.
You'll start seeing the executes come in too
with the, we got the two arms warriors.
Desperilox got the Shadowburn.
I assume Mark still has execute.
I mean, I would assume so.
But either way, you know, you're going to see the damage pick up a little bit near the end.
And hopefully they can make it this time.
I wonder, I kind of want to ask them if they've Vantus' boss, because, again, like,
I would try it again without the Vantus off of the characters that are.
I mean, a lot of characters, and we see a collision there.
A little, you know, looks like the top mechanic.
It's either the collision or that was the green lines that went.
Oh, okay.
A bit and snipe people that that can be tricky.
I, on heroic, tried to thread the needle, and it's pretty dangerous to do that.
Yeah, those green-like beams, not those right there, but the needle ones that spawn and shoot the boss,
those spawn from soaking the green orbs on the floor, they hurt really bad.
The soaks hurt bad, and the green needles that shoot hurt exceptionally bad.
They are, at least in testing, basically a one-shot.
Yeah.
And losing a player here with a Titan EPS check makes it very hard to kill the boss.
As you see, they just wipe there and go again.
I wonder how many open Vantices they have and if they use it on here.
I think I would give it another good try on this and if you kill it pretty easily, which
I think they will without Vantice, you have Vantice for the fourth boss, which is good.
Keep in mind, if you're new, this is not the real Mythic Raid.
This is a Mythic Split Raid.
So you're not going to see much more Prague after this.
If we're lucky, we might see a Vashnik prog, but there's a good chance that they could just log off after they killed us and not even look at him, you know?
Because if you think about it, it's a lot of info you can give away on stream when you don't have to, right?
Like, what's probably going to happen is they killed his boss, even if they are planning on trying Vashnik later, it's better to just go to the next raid and do the first three that you've already killed, and then do that over and over and over again.
That actually is really true because so Guilds of Pold, lots of explorers, as well as some
team sentinels, we haven't seen Sazorak or Vashnik at all.
Maybe there's some info floating around, some Guilds of Vak, I guess clear up to like the
possibility of clearing trash to those bosses, but there's no pulls on them at all.
So yeah, giving away information seems to get, might not be something you want to
do with a day or just two remaining Echo Method schedule as well.
Yeah, certainly a lot of uncharted territory here in terms of like where we
are in the week, the type of splits that we're doing, and sort of the rhythm of
this tier in general, and a lot of decisions I have to imagine are being
made behind the scenes that they really had to think about before. Yeah, I mean
that's what we have our analysts on the side doing all the work for us. We just
come in and do splits, or if they straighten, it all works out, right? Yeah.
Yeah, we don't even have to do this splits at all. We just get to sit here
talk about it. Let's casters.
Exactly.
I stand corrected. Apparently it's an 84%
Zorak pull on a radar IO as well.
Oh, there's an 84% Zorak.
Oh, sure.
I'll take Tina's word for it, sure.
I mean, both Bashnik and Zorak look like bosses that could be walls as well.
Like, Bashnik during testing was insane in the first method iteration.
Then they tested it again later on, which was a lot better.
But it's still a pretty substantial mechanics check compared to Heroic.
Like those, basically those large cross-space green circles on players, you have to place them on top of tumors in their room to break the shell, basically.
And if you don't, the tumors just pop and do much damage.
So, there's that in conjunction with more dispels, I believe, once the healing of the worms healed off has to be dispelled as well.
It's going to make the fight pretty complicated, because I'm sure they crank it to 100 as well, as far as raw damage is concerned.
That part's already pretty punishing on Heroic.
Here we go.
Pull number three?
That's got to be four.
Four.
Oh, because we did that one pretty quickly.
Yeah, we had the one quick wipe, the one enrage wipe, and then the one after that.
So we got pull four.
Wow, what a very challenging boss.
You know, pull count predictions?
I feel like if this is the new norm with mythic splits,
Bull count predictions are going to be a little bit more interesting because now you got to think about because it used to be easy to be like
Oh, yeah, first few balls are gonna get one shot. Yeah, that's not now you can be like
Oh, maybe they end up this is a mythic split tier and then you might see a few more wipes than you would normally expect
Because if this was a full main rate, right, they wouldn't be seeing that in rage. Yeah, they would have they would have on that second ball
Yeah
Probably I mean I think it's pretty safe to assume in this run the characters are mains are probably less gear than the helpers in this
Run with helpers being like all right
Really? I don't think I would assume helpers would have just sent crest already the helpers being all to this point to help carry the mythic raid
Right
Venture to guess I could be wrong
I don't think so because I
feel like
Some of these characters might still they're not all like buckets, you know
not like a bucket characters that just don't matter
the bucket calling them yeah that's probably a better terminology nowadays
but a rat
no well that's what that's like a character that
is just in horrible gear okay yeah bucket
that's what I think a bucket I think of something like patching a bunch of stuff
actually don't know they could they might hold a bunch of items they might hold it
I mean you could see them send it if like they think they'll need to help
them push them over the edge to kill the boss
Then it might be worth it to have characters, you know, buckets, and crafts and things like
that and crafts.
But I feel like right now, it's a little too early, I mean, you have two days, right?
You have two days, you have X amount of mythic splits, an unknown number, they're inscrutable
to us simple folk, and then you got, you know, some more keys probably to just like-
AFK.
AFK.
Well, the fresh characters of AFK.
I think some of the the established characters, you know, they just need certain slots
Yeah, the non buckets to skip the upgrade track
And we're looking at KSV here who is
Trying to finish off that green adds yep able to clear his marker before everyone else
Does as well so also the intermission there for what it's worth does not end until all players clear
They're basically their format check their debuffs there. Yeah, but you want to be fast
So you know up against the wall for the rage exactly
So it's a really tough like clear fast build resource is but don't take too long here either because seven minutes
Everybody goes boom. Yeah. You can't do damage to the boss. Yeah
Yeah, I'm glad I'm either it makes me feel good to see our little bar at the bottom with the HP and all that
We've been keeping that away for the heroic raids, but it's coming the tech the technology has come in
For the real bosses. No, I know what's going on
But I think we're looking pretty good on damage.
3-25, boss is under 50%, we're going to be threading the needle on the end range for sure.
You're going to have execute kicking in a bit from Warrior as the Warlocks as well,
having that Shadowburn cleave.
But at the same time, losing a player like we just unfortunately lost Boomi there as
well, we should have a res available pretty soon here about 45, does make a difference.
a positive note hopefully it's not down long enough to make a massive difference but it does make
this fight a bit more difficult being a healer down for about a minute or so. Yeah and especially
on the Prezavoker, Prezavokers do a lot of damage so it is going to be a pretty, you know it's not
a trivial amount like it's not a that might affect the enrage at some point. And wow,
okay now I see what you're saying about like there's a lot of damage, there's a lot of damage
going on right now I think I think going falling behind on that ad is a pretty
pretty scary and now yeah especially without that healer a lot of a lot of
time and saying here this one is a GG go next for sure yeah that mythic
mechanic overlap at the end of that phase right into like the addition game
as well it's really next to give those pops going out it's been missed it's
massive rate damage and you're just once again having another mechanic to
deal with yeah that's rough it just spirals so fast mm-hmm
Yeah, pretty solid pull for the first one, but I guess we're just slightly backtracking,
but that's not a big deal.
It's first run as well.
It's first run, yeah.
You're really familiar with things to be built muscle memory that you lose the older you
get like me.
I'd just be dying over and over, but...
Keep calling yourself old.
I don't like this Kalamazee.
So old.
The disparaging language.
Dated.
I like this light tasteful backtracking.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
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one I did aren't they great they're so nice it was a clip right on big fan really
affordable I feel like compared to some of the other ones nice nice and
Magnetic very easy to use if you want to IRL stream or or do cooking streams like calamansi
Make some sauce or whatever we can call it cooking, but I mean I wouldn't call it cooking we experimenting perhaps. Yeah
Calamansi cooking streams jet
No, but I've seen though. I've seen her. Yeah, I'm not much of a stream watcher. I
Watched like one streamer and that's about it
Uh...
Wait, hold on, which stream are you?
Uh, Northern Lion.
I was gonna say this Lion person that he made there out of car upstairs, but they were hurt in besides it in my life.
You two? And no one else I know watching that.
I watch NL, that's like the only streamer I watch.
The Lion.
Is he like people or any stuff?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Look, you set chat off yet.
Of course, of course.
He's a big streamer man, there are a lot of people that watch him.
I believe it.
I believe it, I just, I've never heard him.
He's really popular, yeah.
There are a lot of people that are really popular on the internet that I've never heard of.
Hmm that is true. Yeah, I'm just staying in my little niche bubble who else is going on the nl crew is all man
I I'm sad that that didn't happen though. We've been a absolute disaster. What what is this?
And then another
Buddy of his is also streamer Dan Giesling. If you ever watch big brother
No, okay
They set up like they set up like a cruise thing
where they would have like viewers come and they know any active activities
stuff and it would actually it actually sounded like it was going to be maybe
one of the most insane things ever and then it didn't really they ended up
getting canceled. Jojo Siwa did a cruise. They did a cruise did. Yeah. No they cancelled the
okay yeah okay well if it wasn't anything like the Jojo Siwa cruise
which was also a disaster I really wanted to go to them. I feel like there is
undiscovered meta for IRL streamers.
Is it cruises?
It's like, yeah.
That's the IRL cruise of S-Tremor.
You have to make sure that you can make an internet.
Pull us like, what if you're stuck on the cruise with some weirdo?
That's the point.
Well, yeah.
I think there's a whole lot of different elements there going on.
And it's like, the cruise isn't just for them.
It was part of a regular cruise ship with a regular people there for normal reasons.
And then you got like the one corner of it that's like for them, yeah.
That's how it was for Jojo Siwa too.
I know a lot about this because I watched a guy that did a long form video about the Jojo
Siwa clues just to check it out for the bit.
I don't know what you're saying.
Jojo Siwa.
Jojo Siwa.
Jojo Siwa.
Jojo Siwa?
Okay.
Jojo Siwa.
She's the girl with the bow.
Yeah, I know she she has she has that uh, she has that really she has a really sick dance move where she shakes
So I'm just gonna play
Yeah, I had a wish I did a parody of that song
Yeah
Yeah, they got a lot to talk about here it looks like because they're just jumping up and down in front of
The boss. I wonder what's going on here
Oh, Goof got moved.
He's supposed to just pro lab.
Yeah, he's been in the pro, he's been in Alice's spot.
Oh yeah.
He's been keeping it nice and warm, yeah.
Yeah, he's in the pro lab.
All right, well, while they're talking between poles here,
what spot, if you were on the team, would you want?
In the pro lab?
Just anywhere in the building.
I would definitely be in the pro lab.
I think the pro lab, it's like,
it's kind of like the closest thing to like a dungeon,
and it feels like a shared experience
because so many people are in there, you know?
Sometimes there's no smiling allowed in the pro lab,
sometimes there's no laughing allowed in the pro lab.
Oh yeah, wait, who, was it, is it?
Oh, I don't remember who was saying no smiling.
I thought of that, let's see.
Oh, this Shaq said it a lot too.
Shaq is good about enforcing
that the pro lab follows rules.
Yeah, of course.
He met her then.
So he's kind of the captain of the pro lab
in that sense.
I think I would want to be in the back part of the pro lab
Like up in like a corner. They were doop-sat in the dark basically
Yeah, maybe not the very back like sort of in the middle, you know, I like I like that back section
I don't have to be a corner, but like it's cozy that like back room area. It's a little little nook
Do you know it's like sitting there? Yeah. Yeah, that's good. I
Think yeah cubes
We're like THB and like fired up our things a little too close to the window. It's a little too bright
He likes being I don't know if you're you can see everything. Yeah, yeah, I would get so distracted
I feel bad even walking by but I don't think he cares. No, he's fully locked in
I've walked by a lot and he doesn't even notice me. Yeah, so he's locked in
Yeah, he's fully locked in and then Scott's got his own little pod this time. Yeah, what a pod. Yeah
Oh yeah, that's the best scene in the house right there because there's no temperature problems in there at all
True, you get to control it. It's fully controlled there must that in there. Yeah, the lights yourself. You can kind of spread out
That's the best scene now also around that's true. Yeah, and then you know, there's there's max. He's got a little sweet
Yeah, but he's been having
Like temperature problems. Yeah, he's been sweating in there sweating. Yeah, I I feel like our
Our castor room is Antarctica.
What if we just put Max in the castor room with us?
It'd be okay.
Oh yeah, he would love that.
I think he would have a good time.
I think he would.
Yeah, he'd appreciate our presence, for sure.
Like, fox burn all over.
Absolutely.
Fox burn all over.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
The AC and Max's room is controlled by the healer room.
Interesting.
And do the healers like it warm?
Oh, yes.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Warm and bright.
The lights all the way back don't like that don't like that at all
Wow, they really are taking our time here. It's got a lot to talk about about
Yeah, so
Just just do the mechanics bro. It's just that simple
Take a look check check my other monitor really quick check my stream check my desk
Everyone turn on my
Now we're back combination over also. We've got Scott's feeling up
I mean the fight does wrap a bit difficult towards the end
We have the blood pools taking up half the room plus you need to resolve your addition marks and all subs
I resolve the minute mechanic. It does become a bit more constrained, but I feel like it shouldn't be that bad
Barring that last over that we saw them wipe that that's because a pretty big choke point might have been what they were discussing there
There's a full timer now. Oh
Also, what are these bosses doing? What are they doing right there? What are they doing?
Well, dancey dance.
You guys are the Scotts real name is William.
Yeah.
Is that William?
It's William.
What's your real name again?
William.
I feel like I actually don't know it.
There's a funny thing about the name William.
was at one point like five different Williams or variations of will in the
guilt so we had a rank in that you were in no I wasn't yeah yes of course I'm
a William we had a rank in the discord called the bill five yeah I can't set
it in chat little five I've never heard this lore okay beefy five there you go
Oh, look at that, why?
Right, right, right.
Yeah, the Bill 5.
How long ago was this?
Oh!
I think it started in Antorus because of Kenny Loggins, if you remember that.
That's an old name.
Yeah, yeah, his, because his Twitch name is the Bill 5, and his name is William.
Okay, right.
Yeah.
Wait, so who was, who was part of the, the Bildum?
The Bill 5?
Yeah.
I don't remember them all.
Okay.
So, I can't, I can't tell you.
Yeah.
logins reading midwinter for a while yeah he was in he was in our guild in
mentors was the before after midwinter before and after oh here we go okay
does that make sense he went back after yeah okay I thought that might be where
I seen the name from okay all right well number five they had number five on
the board here for the most part I mean they've gotten like the gist of the
fight down just when it begins ramping into those later stages that
problem start to arise here I am a little surprised that there's only like
So, okay, I guess like to clarify these are split groups
So what you're seeing here is very likely not the comp they are probably gonna consider playing fully on these bosses
Like seeing one that's your lock in this fight is like surprising probably the most but keep in mind like
You wouldn't want to desher locks here necessarily because you want to like split in a way where you're giving classes with
Varying loot drops or loot once opportunities to get what they want that loop having to mess with an uncertain item
I think if you're playing the ultimate optimal comp, cryptics would not be in here.
Because the red man, the red man is not a good tier for the red man.
Unless you're a double red man, which is a blood DK.
If you're the double red, like this right here, then you're good.
If you're just regular red, blue red or green red, then it's not a good time in the raid.
Right. It's really weird that Blizzard does say, I mean, follow the ideology of grip being a raid buff.
It does like this tier. There's not a whole lot of grips for grip opportunity. Yeah, that's actually because the best one
opportunities
That's like the best one and I think like if you really wanted to you just run double blood DK
Yeah, and you could cover that but it might be too easy that they probably won't you probably won't see them do that
I guess there's some grip potential maybe I'm a little tech based on ads
Potentially yeah hard to say I mean you want to gear one or two at least regardless of the splits, right?
Yeah, you know it used to be like a rule of thumb that like no matter what
Tank class coverage you have that like both your tanks have a blood DK just in case you ever run double blood DK for grips
I mean one of the cool things about splitting multiple times
We're not sure how many runs they're doing but we would assume probably at least three or four right
You can actually have Scott and Yip's gearing multiple tanks compared to the DPS gearing maybe one or two mains, a couple alts
I'd assume they're probably trying to fully gear each tank
They're gonna have a prop, alley, prop warrior, blood decay, room master, so on and so forth
If I were to venture a guess
They're probably pretty high on Druid, Druid tank. They're probably pretty high on blood decay. They're probably pretty high on
life
I'm like saying and and a minute
And then probably
Vengeance DH to there. They're pretty good in the rain. Where's his buddy? Where'd it go?
Oh, he's jumping. He's peeing there. We go. Yeah, you need to do a little chat of step action in Sateleport
It's pretty smart nothing personnel kid. Yeah, we saw you get sorry. Go ahead
Action and plus and we're talking about last night possibly being like the return of vengeance
Haven't seen it in a while not since Castle Nathria
Castle Nathria had a we absolutely cursed comp for tanks. It was prop warrior and
Vengeance DH. That's a combo. I think that we have only seen that one time ever
Prop valid in vengeance the age prop warrior. Oh warrior cage
Yeah, it was a good time it was a good time
It was also simultaneously one of the harder tank gears
because Sardinathus was a really challenging tank,
really beat you up.
Wasn't Shack tanking on Dynathus?
Am I crazy?
No.
He was on Gilby, wasn't he?
Yeah, Scott was tanking.
OK.
As a demon hunter?
Yeah, Scott was on a DH.
OK.
And Ben was on the warrior.
Yeah, Shack was on a DK that year.
Yeah, that's not the havoc was really bad that red havoc and warrior DPS were
That was here where DK was super good with like AMZ at the max
Okay
You know you win some you lose some no, this is looking pretty tough here. We got a we got a warrior down
Yeah, one of our larger source of damage also coming up on it. I'm not execute window about 7% here
Yeah, I think it's an alt warrior so it's not gonna be quite like Walleye-free, Walleye-tree, Walleye-tree, but yeah, so it's still pretty substantial.
Yeah, I think we were ahead of the DPS check by a little bit. Let me hit that, you know, three and a half minute mark. Keep in mind, seven minutes is the horrid range in this fight, so we're looking at about two and a half minutes remaining here.
The boss is reaching at 33% mark roughly, more like executing around 20% for havoc leave.
Warrior is 35, so there we go.
But unlike Lost Explorers, these bosses are not stacked, you're getting only one, you
know, execute I guess value on one target versus two being stacked here, which you
just cannot do.
Yeah, I mean, you know, they're not going to shed any too many tears about it because
Arms Warrior single probably top five top three if you consolidate all rogue specs until just one single road class
They're they're pretty good. They're pretty good
Yeah, very much so
Rogues not spot this tier where even though they are simming really high but the majority their specs
I don't know how strong they actually are this right here Rogues. Yeah, there's a lot of life spread cleave
There are some stackly, like the biggest bike you might see like multiple rogues on it
It's like Sazorak, which is like patchwork based
It's possible to see multiple rogues on Sazorak. My issue is that while they have in my opinion the best single target in the raid
they
Kind of maybe a Sazorak I you could see multiple. I was gonna say like they don't really have a niche
The shadows that back to the ball and the waves. They don't have like a niche that
Like he's very needed in the raid or really they don't have a good niche period
So which is why I like you would take other classes that may be slightly worse but can do certain things that you know
Rokes can actually think well for reason why rogue disoel in Cesarak is because of the damage at timings and the fact that they can
Stick to the boss pretty easily. So I think
That that is a part there is a possibility that you see multiple roads
I think that you can you could live in a world where that could happen. Yeah
Well speaking of opposition we have less than about half a minute left here to the bosses in rage.
We're at 30% of the boss here. We have both Goop and Sang down. This might actually be doable though.
Look at the room. There's very little room left to move. We have both that bloods up coming in and those green orbs need to be soaked as well.
AMZ comes down here mainly. The bosses are sub 10%. We have 20 seconds on the boss. We might actually get this down.
With both Goop and Sang being this low. We have to drag the boss out of the blood though here.
The question is can we kill both bosses in time for that rage? It's coming in 10 seconds.
hit the spread of it, the mythic mechanic here. We resolved this. Can we kill it before the
next mechanic begins, which is happening pretty soon? Or is it berserk in 5? Can we beat this?
I think we're gonna beat this actually. 1%?! And rage is hitting right now?! No, the berserk
is- Oh! What? Can we do this?! Oh, it's on the X4%! Oh! Watch this, don't share
hell. Yeah. Really, really close though. Yeah. So, we had 2 DPS dead for a little
a while and we had a couple of our deaths during the middle part of that fight. So this
is definitely killable. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of optimization to be done still.
Yeah. Shea was dead for a while. Eventually they got him up and then we lost Sang and then
we lost Goode. So yeah, I mean. Did you go next? One good pull. That's all it takes.
So I don't think the bosses actually go like basically immune to damage when they
rage. They ran to the middle, but I don't think, I think they're taking damage still
I don't remember if that hour I wasn't paying attention if that was the intermission timer
Yeah, so I'm saying yeah, I don't think it was but I mean either way like so with the bosses don't share health
whenever they go into like the middle and
That like addition game starts they'll try to like even out the opposing bosses health pools
Like they're basically even coming back in the phase one. I think there's just a hard and rage
But I don't think we're gonna hit it with the whole rate alive by the way
Do you want to address the elephant in the room Kalamazin? Oh?
Oh, I'm trying to lose weight, Chad, what was-
You cursed them, right off the bat.
This is the first cast or curse of this raid by our lineup.
Nicely done, nicely done.
Yeah.
I'm sad.
That's all right.
We'll get another one for discussing things, so what, was it like 4% apart from each
other?
Yeah, pretty much.
And it was essentially like a 2% life overall, because one boss was dead and there's
four. So I mean, it's sort of free. We had probably a DPSF for the majority of the fight,
if you look at, you know, how it spiraled there.
Yeah.
They're heading in the chat as well. They're doing the points.
Oh.
Like, Gamba.
A little Gamba.
Yeah. I believe that's what's going on. I should, can you do it on mobile? I'm sure
you can.
They can't.
Prediction market going.
Hold on, I want to get in there. Prediction market.
Yeah.
You know what I'm sad about this tier?
What?
Vaults don't really have Yamba, because they don't really matter.
I know!
What are the streamers going to do now?
That's like my biggest Tuesday milk ad.
Oh, look at them!
What are they going to take?
What are they going to take?
What are they going to take?
Oh, it's a good one.
It's a good one.
They even have that little ad.
Do you have that little ad on there?
The hides them all?
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
I have cat picks a number.
Oh my gosh.
You really milk it.
Okay.
I mean, to be fair, there's some value.
You could do that with, like, you know, that bonus roll.
Oh, well, we'll still say there's a helm right here.
I think next week it's a couple things. That's about it. I feel like it's um, it's less fun. It's less fun logging in on Tuesday. Yeah
The Tuesday logins are not going to be fun anymore. Yeah, I agree. I don't think the wallets in the last this way past this patch
Yeah, yeah
Expected everybody did not take volt items. I mean they got so much feedback on ptr
That like introducing bonus rolls this early in the season is a stupid idea. Yeah, so
I mean, I think it's like a solid idea, but the problem is I said so much value behind the max myth coin
Yeah, right like if you're not rating mythic you can just I mean the coin if you're pointing a dungeon
It's one ass hot if you're pointing her oh, it's big like baseline myth, right?
It's just if you're a mythic raider the coins are so valuable
I just I just think that there's no reason to invalidate the vault so early in the season, you know
Either that or I mean, I don't know
I think the the coin thing should not it should just been a week eight just like last season
You know introduce the coin eight weeks into the season shouldn't need to come in at the start
It just causes too many issues in terms of you know picking loot
even it's gonna I think it's gonna cause like a potential tuning problem with
which was they're not being able to predict how much I level goes by week
by week because people are not going to be taking vault options anymore they're
just gonna take the bonus roll then they're gonna have to go back in and
kill a boss and then they get the I level boost so a lot of I level boost
are gonna happen not like on a Tuesday but like after your raid day you know
So
They need a build needs a plus 10 murder row key plate stack AFK run
50,000 per player
Finder play type a murder row. Do you have a plate character? No, I have a nine as well. I'm pretty sure
But okay
Yeah, the guild said make sure to like fill your bags and get your 10 key using the like the hack with them around like guys
I am to pug all week with the race
So I'll just I hope with my nine it's fine. Somebody ripped off fired up one of his groups
Really? He wiped they he paid them ahead of time and then the I guess the healer kept DCing and then
Log back in to stop wasting my time and then
Let's think we're wiping here. Yeah. Yip's died. Oh, no tank death. Oh, I had to get struck
Chad has lost their prediction points to
Yeah, you hate to see that I never know how to say this like you know chicken
Boo-Yon chicken Boo-Yon chicken Boo-Yon yeah the bullies Boo-Yon system where you
need multiple that you can get a specific piece either needs it not exist
right started season I can be one to one I'm just gonna chicken broth I
just think I think the bonus will systems fine it just needs to not be a
thing so early in the year that's real that really would fix a lot of
problems yeah I think he's big and the vault thing that you need to fix it
so that they need to fix this so if you get the vault item, it counts in your bonus roll.
Yeah. Make the vault count for bonus rolls, make mythic bosses like maybe like 3 out of 6 myths,
you're saving 100 crats per clone, which is insane, and make it their system during beta they had
for a few weeks in M+, where a 10 gave like a 1 out of 6 myth item in your vault,
doing a 12, you get like a 2 out of 6, 14 with 3 out of 6,
I want that back for the M plus section of vaults, like it would encourage you to run just past 10s,
Like do a 12 and the items 2 out of 6 free out of 6 you can say it's impressed there. Yeah, I think that'd be great
I don't know why it went away, but like oh, I lowered all my keys with him back to attend today
Yeah, well, I think I actually like that the raid coin is six out of six
Because there's got to be some incentive you gotta you gotta swing the deal for rating man. It's just too much
It's hard. It's hard rating is hard man. I
I a couple of days ago. I
Enraged the chat by saying that rating is way harder than keys and
I
Think you're two different things. I just said somebody that has now done both. I
Just don't see how the keys are very hard. Yeah, I'm going again
Yeah
Do you get title lessons yet? I got the mount. That's all I care about hanging doesn't count
I didn't get title. I don't count really we don't count
I think I actually think title keys are easier than plugging Mount keys
100% oh my gosh, I plugged it. I plugged Mount Keys as a healer
I promise you if I joined a title group it would be it would be gravy. That'd be so easy for me
It actually was pretty insane. I was trying to do like pug 20s like in it was like May or something
I tried to plug 20 a for like
Really straight it just broke. I just stopped doing keys. I came back the last few days the patch and got them out
That was it and like I did I can't I can't do it anymore. It broke my soul
I'll get through it.
The mount better be a banger this season though, or am I doing that again?
There's no chance.
The red bird is pretty sick.
The red bird is sick.
I'm glad I got that.
Yeah, that was nice.
I'm still stuck on your keys are not as hard as raiding thing.
Can I pick your brain a little bit?
Sure.
There's no difficulty cap on keys though.
Yeah, but like what level of keys are you comparing to like mythic raiding?
And what level of mythic raiding?
I would say like just the rewards scope of it, right?
Okay, so like getting CE is harder than getting like 1% or what?
No, CE is like...
Can you CE like when?
I would say Hall of Fame is harder than like 1%.
title keys is
probably like being like a
In a top 100 guild, so that's like half of Hall of Fame. Yeah, okay
If you're like doing world first time for keys, I mean that's probably I don't know that that's something I can
Yeah, really magic you're doing crazy stuff the problem with the keys is like at a certain point
It's not about like your skill
You just have to like gain the new mail challenges of things doing insane damage like for example like I'll give you example
Right. Yeah, you do a really high key on sky reach. Yeah second boss
Yeah, you're taking so much damage you have to do stuff like
CC an ad that can cast for your dev dh to kick just so they have damage reduction for every burst of damage
Yeah, stuff like that is like, you know, it's like a coordination check, but I don't think it's very hard
it's just like you just sit there and pray and then do cheesy stuff like the
stuff that you did in Skyra's near the end of the season like pulling all the
robots and then like melding it to like bug them out like that's just like this
lame I mean it's fun but like but like you guys you guys can't sit here and
tell me like oh the keys are so hard because you bug out half the mobs and
You use like a bet you throw you throw a little toy. You're not using the bench tech
Yeah, you know every every man policies and there's like a toy to bug something out. Yeah, they can
Time their 25 keys. It's just crazy. Okay. All right
Listen, I feel like I couldn't talk about this as much because before I did in pub key or push keys
But then when I started when I started pushing keys the illusion went away
I was like man, then nothing like happens for 20 minutes out of the 30 minutes of a dungeon all the hard part of the bosses the
Bosses in keys are where like most of the trouble happens except for the first pull of sky rage
There your tank can pull like a psycho or and not know how to do the pull right
I'm just just grief your group over
Okay, I I feel like keys are as hard as you make them
Whereas like raid rating has like a set. Yeah, that's true
Yeah, I feel like they're kind of they're kind of hard to compare it like I do see your book
I also feel like finding a
group as
Like at a really high like at the same level of you as a guild is a lot harder than like for other people. Yeah
It's more of like a long-term commitment rating than like keys
Yeah, I said the other thing that it makes me bias is that my experience in being like a top 10 top 5 rating guild in the world
Yeah
We have always had very bad experiences with key mains
Key mains that come in and join our guilt and raid they always were really bad. Wasn't shaka key main. They're very few accessions
Okay, so just shaka. Well, yeah
And if you think about like the best MDI MDI teams out there, they're all raiders and like the best skills in the world
That's fair. There's like an overlap
You want to look back in?
Yeah, let's look back.
I was looking at the boss.
I lost it to 25% here.
It's actually pretty low.
They were at 40% at that 3.5-minute mark.
So to clarify, Chad, we didn't want to come back
to this boss too early.
We all saw it, but we didn't want to jinx it
before we got here.
But now, close enough, we're on the threshold
of this boss possibly dying for the world first.
You hear the lock back in.
That's all I forgot.
All about his M-plus.
No, I'm going back to it.
We're back.
We're going back to it.
We're going back to it.
I want to trigger more people.
I want to pick this man's brain.
We have the way I mean they're way ahead of the PSH. Okay, we have two and a half minutes of the enrage hits
Oh, not you one and a half by the way, it's fine. We're way ahead here
So they're gonna have to resolve one more intermission
We're gonna have that shifting proto venom coming up in about ten seconds here
Which is gonna be that like the mythic mechanic hit like collided circles don't hit too much about it
And we're gonna have that last mission coming up
But the boss at 14 percent here 14 and 13 respectively
So here's that mythic mechanic the proto venom resolved one two three four yep
No collisions that weren't needed there last pops
We're gonna have the intermission here coming out around 10% with about a minute left to burn the boss as long as we resolve these
We should be okay to you. She's driving on an island here looking for a partner. I think it's jargling back in the room
He's making his way over. He's sort of stranded here. Oh, I don't he felt every perfect perfect. He found the nice bear
There we go. I mean as long as nothing terrible happens here. This should be a kill
We have about a 45 seconds left from the table here
Both bosses sitting right around 10% almost exactly even coming out of that burn transferring health back and forth
Sub 10% 35 seconds left to kill these bosses, but there really isn't much that's happening here
We have like half a minute of just sort of free damage barring this last two soaks coming in the green soaks
Followed by his bloods would coming in the bosses sub 5% 20 seconds on the clock left here
They really shouldn't be much else here
We're gonna have the green side fall over the red side 1.5%
It's not been over to even out the blood side
This should be free a bit of rate damage coming in here as long as we can make it through and kill the blood
That we should be good. I am oh my gosh about 15% left and no it's dead
Oh it goes down it swapped over I thought that was the other boss. I was like okay you got baited by the graphic
We totally I was okay. I'm glad it was the boss deal like dude
That is a big differentiation, but they got it
That is an Alienware world first kill on the sentinels nicely done team liquid now three out of eight
And that is a nice way to start off that mythic
Can we call it mythic progression? I know it's a split
It's so proud.
Yeah, that was the whole number eight, I believe.
Yeah, it took her seven.
That's a pretty...
Don't start. Don't start.
Pretty respectable third boss.
My favorite part about that, no reaction, they're just moving on to the next boss.
Oh yeah, of course.
So this is really interesting because this is going to be Vashnik, correct? I believe?
Yeah. Well, no, wait, is it Vashnik?
I always forget Pathy, he's two bosses.
This is a Vashnik, yes.
This board goes to Cizerak and this goes to Vashnik, yeah.
So I don't know if we've seen Vashnik pulled, no we haven't because it's about to die death.
This is going to be a world first look at Vashnik actually.
No one's pulled this boss yet.
Alright, they should go dark.
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised.
I'm actually surprised that they're not just logging off and going to the next one.
Is there a Lieutenant in Trash?
Oh, there's Lieutenant in Trash, yeah.
I think we clear for BOE, see that?
Oh yeah, that's true.
They already got one.
They already got a BOE.
Yeah.
I don't know if they're going to want to show Vashnik.
Maybe they do though.
Yeah, I mean, it's probably not gonna matter, it's like the 4th boss in the raid, right?
But, they can still do it. Any withheld information is an advantage.
It's true, that's just how it is.
And I'm glad chat cooled down after me enraging everyone.
No little matter.
I know, it's okay. I'm okay making enemies with keyers.
There you go.
And to clarify, it wouldn't be like a going dark, it would just be more like,
Hey, let's do a rubber split, because we probably have multiples, right?
And to clarify, I'm definitely trolling, I don't think they should, and I don't think they will just straight up go dark.
There will be content?
Yeah, yeah.
Don't worry.
Don't worry.
Yeah.
You might see a rerun.
Actually, it'll be interesting to see the different mains in each group do the damage that they're doing.
Because I think Wally in here is on his main.
Quote, unquote, main.
He was ahead of everyone by like a hundred K on the on the explorers boss. So it's safe to say that's probably a real character, right?
Probably yeah, and there he is top in the meats as
Basically a single target boss with a little bit of two target every now and then right not granted
It's pretty good amount of two targets. That's a pretty healthy ad and you'd like to see that as a arms warrior
Yeah, true. Yeah, this is a brief look back. I believe at the world first kill
Man, oh man, it wasn't even that hard type of an EPS check either.
We really only had like 20-ish seconds left, but it just felt super free.
I'm curious how much they've antised this.
I want to know like how many available vantices they had first of all, because surely like
a lot of the characters already vantised Heroic Old Tech during their splits.
Then I want to know if they use any actual vantices like three vantices on this boss.
It seemed like after that first pull they might have, I mean we heard Max say, okay
it's time to Vantus or something along those lines after the first wipe it might
have been Joe a bit of a joke but their damage came up a bit as well after that
first yeah to you so I wouldn't be surprised to subcommittee right but I
mean also like it might seem crazy Vantus thing a split boss but it is a mythic
boss at the same time they do yet they do want to like maintain the efficiency
you know they can't be spending forever on these boss when they got so much to
do so yeah I mean this we have a essentially a Vantus reset on Tuesday
It's recent day. So we're not like a using this here. We can't Vantus Coral author or Ula Tech. That's yeah
We're been fine. You know at a certain point okay, and I think if you are going to do Vashnik in your raid
So you would probably want to be managing that instead. Yeah, you know what's an interesting angle here
They could go to they could pivot to Nemrissa the world boss
I'm not hearing good things about her now. I've heard the boss is still grotesquely over tuned
I think Echo tried it last night a bit
But it very well could be a thing
Do you feel like they might be kind of buying some time there to see if what is they're gonna be a we
Meaning switch switch the shake oh there's yeah, he's got a he's got a BOE up there
minor crit neck the drop up
Lieutenant major what major haste minor?
That's good 20 seconds ago that man was very happy there is there are some screaming yes, they're hooting their horror
They're losing their voice.
Yeah, they're losing their voice.
They scream more for the BOE than for all three of the bosses they just killed combined.
I just heard myself.
Apparently, I sound like that dude.
Apparently, Max says that make sure people are prepared for a world boss.
Apparently, we're going to be going for the world boss.
Yeah, I see a mage portal out front.
Yeah, that is the mage portal.
They took a little good look at the, yeah, her thing, Chase, her thing, they're going to head out to the, uh, the old...
The old lair.
The lair? Oh, lair?
Yeah, it's a lair boss. It's her lair.
Oh, haha.
Yeah, so this boss is interesting. It's been bugged, or I guess you could say overtuned maybe bugged for a matter of, I don't know, a week?
Yeah.
It was also very difficult in raid testing on PTR.
To the point where some guilds got sort of far but then also it's like exploded due to the PS check being very high and the
Enrage and some girls got about the point where the rest of worlds were wiping for last week
I'm gonna have in and died now. There was a nerve push this boss yesterday because it's been in a
grotesquely over tuned
Unkillable form for a matter of six days now
Apparently echo tried to go in last night and kill it and they also didn't get very far
and we called it so apparently and I'm trying to go to the missile and apparently
it was a little bit harder than we thought what does he say I forget what I
was doing here we go Poggers in the lair Poggers in the lair that's good this
will be this will be either rather uneventful as they kill it or really
funny if they just get one shot. It'll be funny if they get one shot because it means
that Max's interview tonight is going to be interesting. Every time, like, Max has used
the blacklight interview for his feedback to save the way. Very, very nice way to say
that he's providing some feedback. He has been non-stop, actually. Even during lunch
and breakfast he's just like saying all this like so it just cracks me up I'm
good it's good man I mean I wouldn't listen if I was in a position it'd be
ten times worse I'll tell you that one I yeah I wouldn't even be surprised if
they're heading what is it if they're heading in here just to get a look
at it and be like hey please it needs to be fixed again because we're doing
splits and please help us like I wouldn't be surprised at all that's
what they're doing. So there were some changes pushed to this boss 23 hours ago, basically
yesterday at this time exactly. So Abyssal Rain's initial damage was reduced by 12.5%
on Mythic. Abyssal Rain's dot damage reduced by 20. Reduced Abyssal Rain's damage ceiling
based on group size and Frost Burst damage reduced by 40. Now Abyssal Rain is basically
raid wide damage that increases whatever the boss cast ability. Like by 5% each cast.
So it gets harder and harder, it's like an enrage.
I believe it was like the second missile raincast
around 120 mark that was killing everybody, like one shotting.
And that in conjunction with the frost orbs
you need to pop on mythic,
the frost orbs when they're touch-based
when you pop them, they do raid-wide damage.
They have to be popped.
I believe there's like 12 like per drops that comes out.
There's a very large amount.
So in addition to that, there's a new,
I'm sorry. Excuse me. A new boss, a new admin fight that also is shielded, which you need to sort of like grip out of the pack,
kill it, and I believe it makes the adds around them unceasable.
Oh, sorry, it shields nearby Murlocs, so as long as you kill that quickly you can kill the rest of them.
But you don't want the Murlocs to reach the center of the room. Besides that, it feels very similar to her.
Look at normal, it's a safe spot you have to go to. I believe the knock's a bit harder.
Everything else just hits really hard.
Yeah, we're looking to see if the big orb explosion
Just knocks you straight it's it's gonna hit so hard it just throws you out of the instance
I think that's what that's what I'm expecting. So we'll see there's a technique
But I mean it's like sort of whatever it's a frost jet you shoot at the pools and the ground and it clears them
That's a tight mechanic. No cares about that. It's fine
Just don't stand in the beam and you'll be okay. Yeah
Yeah. But the question is, can we live past the right around the 120 mark is where you're
going to see the rate of their live or not live? And that's where that might be the one
poll that we do. It's hard to say live.
No, with the tuning of this, this boss in particular, I was under the impression that
this was supposed to be just as hard as everything else until I was told that this
was meant to be more of like an introductory. Yeah, it's like a rotmire was yeah, it's
It's like a flex mythic thing that they're doing now with some of these bosses.
It's, you know, if you don't have a 20-man raid in your guild, you know, you're a more
casual person playing heroic and stuff, this is here for you because you can do this anywhere
from 15 to 25 people.
And it's, you know, not the most mechanically challenging either.
It's really hard.
Yeah, it's just, well, the tuning is, you know, I think it's supposed to be
meant for it's meant to be around like first boss of the raid difficulty right so like we saw liquid one-shot nexali
So we should realistically like in theory this boss should also be one-shot
Yeah, in theory find out in theory what I
I think I did one poll on this
Heroic it's fine. Yeah, I'm all in LFR. Yeah, all those difficulties fine. No, no for my prediction
Oh, yeah. Oh, I guess I don't know what I put for this. I assumed I put one
Yeah, I
I would venture guess this boss just probably not dead today. Let's say nerf it
Well, I mean what we saw it might not already be fixed. I
Unless yeah, unless I might be next time I go ahead a 76% pole. They did nine poles at 17 hours ago
I was 17 hours ago. Yeah, maybe they think 76% and we'll find out
Yeah, the highest poles are the I guess the best pull 76.2 from echo
77 77.5 78 they're all the same point. Yeah, that's funny. So that's so fine. Okay, well, we'll see we'll see we'll see fingers crossed
They will do it
They will overcome the unkillable nature of this boss
The boss drops one out of six mythic loot to oh, yeah, oh, no, that's not good like
Yeah, that's yeah. No, that was my reaction. It is mythic. There is a good trinket a couple like decent
I guess off-pieces that you can catalyze but it's so low I level wise. Yeah, it's exceptionally punishing compared to what
Luke drops, but but still worth it
Well, yeah, splitting it would be great. It's a good shrink on this ball
But we're gonna find out momentarily the pole counters up. Let's see what happens here
Okay, we're both liquid on numerous a wave caller. So we'll go ahead
There's gonna be a handful of orbs falling on players like a deep lefty drop when you run around a bit
It shouldn't look that bad until about the 120 mark which you can see
right above THG's detentals on top left. Once it hits around 115, that's when the Abyssal
Raincast comes in. There's one cast right there actually. You'll see the damper stack
a crazy amount when it gets closer to there. That's that orb in the center. You don't
want Murloc to reach in that orb, or it does. I think they enrage a few big damage. Just
kill it basically. Outside of that, the water gets being cast here on the tank,
so that will clear a ice patch on the floor when they start spawning. That bubble
fin frost scale, that's the mythic ad in this fight. You want to kill, which
shields the adds around it once it dies the other adds begin taking more damage
there's one two frost scales it looks like compared to I think one on p-tailor
that's a bit more difficult look at this raincast look at the rag is in chunk
with this raincast so that a we damage right there stacks and damage every
single kind of off does it right now the next raincast is in about 30 seconds
we already lost yargy this one coming up is what usually just destroys
Everybody so we're gonna see if that actually happens here at 110 115
We're gonna have the next moment cast here as well which spawns in Morgan's ads coming in
112 here comes the raincast link momentarily. There's the water jet in the tank
You should clear that pool back of the room
I'm sort of ads coming in targeting the frost scales right about now
Okay, this will rain coming in three two one watch the raid health here the missile rain
Okay, not too bad, but these pops are spawning here as well and this is where the damage began
Okay, pop all these orbs though every single one takes great damage. So there's one three four up
I'm gonna break it getting blasted here. Are we trying to spread about a little bit? I mean
I mean, can you okay? This doesn't look that bad
I mean the range of stacks and damage, but that was like
Survivable, okay, maybe that was they probably fix this see we'll see
They wait it's been nerfed, but is it fixed?
We'll see where the next episode rain comes, which is going to be I think about as it's fine. It's intermission
Well, we already had two deaths problem. Ooh some more damage, okay?
I think I'm just out here as well, and you're on a limited time table to pop the actual worm
So we have the next episode raincast coming in about 20 inch seconds here
There yes, Jeff. It's a little on the high side, but I think I think they can do this
I mean they're keeping like pace with the ads wanting a decent rate
I think one might have a rage there, but it died right when he hit the actual middle here comes
He was a raincast so right about now once you watch the raid frames here with those bubbles falling here at the same time
You have to pop those in pretty quick cadence or just too much damage in the right one
Okay, maybe this is on the high side maybe this is a little bit on the
might be a little hey you know what 65% that's not bad for one pole that's not
bad three minutes of the bus I think this is a great idea and I think we
should keep going we should just the world boss yes yeah he's having a good
time he's having a great time okay yeah maybe maybe the damage should be a
little bit a little bit more nerfed I might as mentioned so I mean I'm sure
they can probably readjust a killer if he needs a certain extent but not to the
point where you have okay the minute 20 mark was hyped up by Cal Mazi a lot so
that's why I died there that's why I was like oh you know something looking too
bad and then we got to like the three-minute mark and I'm like oh yeah
and then it's like oh okay they're like they're like keep getting
destroyed I wonder if they'll try again they're sitting at the front of
instance I don't think so I don't think they are yeah the portals that's so good
that's so funny what that was that was the blizzard watch our stream which is
bosses way over over tune nerf will come back later pull I guarantee it's what it
was okay we're just be over tuned pixel come back later you know what they
probably emptied the bag on that like minute 20 they just did it literally
everything to live and it just looks like this is completely related but the
the graphics on the right there kind of remind me of Diablo.
Which one?
Oh, like, you're like, you're like some kind of dungeon cave thing.
Yeah, no, you're right.
They're like, yeah, some of the sellers or stuff, whatever.
Yeah, yeah, I feel like we're in like a Diablo dungeon.
That's funny. Diablo?
No, no, no. Oh, okay.
This right. You're still okay.
Yeah, I still can't believe that this boss is like this.
I mean, it's interesting.
It's also Sunday, which is a bit unfortunate.
The changes were pushed yesterday to this boss, they could push more tonight, technically, if they're ready to do that they could.
Do you think they will?
I mean, the thing is like...
It's Sunday.
Well, you want to split this boss if you can.
Yeah.
It's a good trinket on this boss for casters that you really want to get split if possible.
But at the same time, like, if it's a chance of them nerfing it, you don't want to slam your head into the wall too much today, because you have like...
Exactly, yeah.
...experts not worths to do.
This is like a Monday, maybe, angle, if it's still not nerfed.
Yeah.
I mean it almost seems like
Like that's kind of decision
I guess that they're making right now is like is it more productive to go do other things that we know that we could make consistent progression on
Versions like we don't quite know how difficult this fight is and we don't know how much time
We'd be wasting by trying to figure that out
Versus the rewards that the rewards that you get from this boss
Yeah, tough decision this to me looks like a swap to have a mythic split
Yeah, this is looking like a log out angle. Yeah, let's get on run number two
Yes, you walk it was a good that was a good college try though. They actually like got three minutes into the boss
Yeah, and you know what now we know we do know. Yeah, now we have now we know that the boss still needs to get nerfed
It came to the boss. It's about like
15% too fast
Made with the spawns followed up by the rain cast in I think it's just the rate damage in my opinion. I think
DPS wise it looked like
Unironically looked fine DPS wise. Yeah, I think the raid damage is like clearly. It's crazy, right?
I mean, what did you have you had multiple ads spawning?
You had the rain that wanted to kill you had a burst like multiple rounds of bubbles
Yeah, the bubbles have been popped. I think like 10 seconds or so or they just blow up in the rain
They have to pop with their heads and heads.
Yeah, they start glowing in a brighter blue, I think.
They have to pop. Right.
Yeah, look at this.
It just sounds so ridiculous.
What are your bubble assignments?
The boss section is really easy.
Like, mechanically, it's not that challenging.
Basically, I think that's the intention, right?
I mean, Rob Meyer was basically a classic wild boss.
Yeah.
And people still found ways to wipe to it.
Dude, dude, that was so triggering.
It was literally the easiest thing.
So you bring the mushrooms to the one thing and then you bring the other adds to the other
thing and people were just flipping the sides.
Or like that's your left foot right foot strategy day one.
Yeah.
And like by way of complicating that's just to the boss play.
I'm not explaining it well but that's because it was so simple.
I forgot how to do it but I promise it was so easy.
You don't even have to do left or right foot.
That's like the pattern strategy.
Yeah that's what I'm saying.
If you want to do like the range melee stack.
Yeah range melee just go middle of the boss.
Yeah yeah.
simple. And people still don't know. People don't realize the little, what was it, like
the funglings and the shrimplings?
Yeah, the shrimplings. Yeah. I did a lot of gripping things to the correct side.
Yeah, a lot, yeah. There's a lot of gripping.
No, I was supposed to like co-stream that, the guild, and sort of do like reaction and
understand, yeah, both of us at the time. They started the patch early and then
they killed it in one go and then I hadn't even started yet. Like I haven't even started
my stream. I felt kind of bad. They're like, oh, hey, like here's some like, you know,
here's some deliverables you can do like to talk about what's going on. Oh, it's dead.
I can't do this anymore. I'm sorry.
I sat and plugged it for four hours. Yeah.
Hugging was a different story. Yeah. We don't know people have people like, no.
Now if it was a trash pool with like one or two kicks and you just see see them
all over again. People had no problem doing that, apparently.
But as soon as you start introducing a boss with a 20-year-old Classic WoW mechanics,
it's too much. That's why Classic is harder than retail, because you can't do that.
I'll ride.
It's not a bad take to it from Jeff's side.
I don't rile him up again. He started liking you again.
It's why Classic WoW is harder than retail, because when you die, you lose a lot of
your world buffs and then you do no damage and then it's hard to kill the
boss again
look you got he's right based classic class
no no if anyone anyone that has been following on socials knows that like the
level of disdain I have for classic players in my product classic no no no
I think he's getting there he's getting there listen listen I love classic and I
play classic a lot but man the dads you guys are you guys are you got to keep
up with the times man please I think heroic blood furnace is not that hard
listen I'd like to chime in here because I'm hearing you I'm hearing you yeah my
thing is like I enjoy classic I enjoy hardcore I just wish they would like
leave me alone when I'm streaming retail because it's it's like two or
three times a street retail sucks this dead game are you playing reach
classics so much better. Dude, both games are awesome. They're both awesome. Playing
classic retail players do not care. Yeah. They're like, they're like, okay, we're playing
I tried to say anything. Those are the things where they like to put out retail patches
at the same time as classic. And like, well, I guess I ain't playing that again. Yeah.
There was one time they didn't do it. And it was burning crusade launch and everyone
was playing burning crusade. Even like retail players playing burning crusade, it was
so fun on launch and patch it everybody left again. Like, man, okay, I gotta stop
baiting because I think a lot of people actually think I think the classic is
hard retail this guy gets a really good hold for you guys I don't I don't like
flask flask don't take him seriously please guys I'm I'm like extremely
sarcastic a cloak and so does that mean you're being sarcastic about keys being
hard on rating? In a certain way, yes I was being sarcastic, but in many ways I was being
serious. I enjoy your hot takes. In some ways I'm serious, some ways I'm not. There's some
nuance to it, man. There's some nuance to it for sure. For sure. If I'm going to be
real talking, there's some nuance to it for sure. Chat, how many of you are stuck
murder-o-hell at this point how many do claims your flasks get I claim my flasks back 20 minutes for a shift. Oh
Wow, congratulations. It took me a lot. I thought I was like 20 runs like run 12
Dude, I don't even know you're in the room for a bit. And then I hear you're like grumbling
I'm frustrated noises
Okay
No, what no, what did that mean 15? All right. Okay question for you guys. Yeah, maybe let's not start with jet
Call them all. Okay. What's your what gets you all gets you all what you think about what you cook something
What's your most what's your hottest?
wild take oh
The racial's pressure didn't exist if you just choose people on the screen
I think that's fine. The ones that improve the ones that affect EPS or give you like PVE functionality
PPP should be chooseable or just not in the game at all. I think that's fair
People get really passionate about it on on Twitter and things
People I love them or hate them, but like I don't like playing a night off or it's worth like an avoid it
I want to play it undead. I lose like a bunch DPS and I have no utility racial. I'm see the toilet
That's one of those things that actually is like a surprisingly hot take
I don't I cannot imagine because I feel like because I agree with you
I feel like if you were to take like performance buff
Racial's away. Yeah, I could still take like keep like the class
Yeah, I think the two biggest ones, we're going to piece the keydoers here, like meld
and stone form, way too OP.
They're so like, you can meld a targeted spell, you can meld, like meld skips and stuff
like that, to the point where it is, if you're doing title keys, if you're not
night off it's you're probably somewhat
griefing I mean you can do it without it
but it's a lot harder for sure okay
level up it's really strong yeah meld
meld is a little it's too much and it's
crazy because it's been a problem since
bfa yeah then yet they're not doing
anything about it okay real quick
question has meld ever been because it's
been a night off racial for it since
forever yeah and I feel like when they
made it and I could be wrong it was
like oh this is like a fun cutesy
thing that night elves could have, but I don't remember it ever being like particularly useful.
Was it ever useful until Keys?
Uh, hmm, that's actually a good question, I actually, I bet in theory there are probably
a lot of things you could meld, um, oh yeah that's right, you couldn't, yeah you couldn't
use it in combat in classic, that was like the major change.
Oh, you, uh, kind of called, uh, restelth, right?
Yeah, that's right, that's right.
would let you use it out of it would get you out of combat no no no you so well
that is how it works now yeah but what you used to not be able to use it in
combat so you couldn't like be in a fight and then like get targeted with the
spell and just like meld it off or like you couldn't pull a pack and then like
meld to like drop combat you know yeah yeah people like I think my first
introduction to meld as like a kid when I was playing classic is like
Hunters would like meld and then just like aim shot out of shadow meld in world pvp like that was kind of
Yeah, that's kind of how I got introduced to shadow meld. Yeah, but it has evolved into something
Really crazy nowadays. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well discuss meld use usefulness in chat in the meantime
We're gonna head to a monster energy listening
in sad my guys yes my guys actually Billy brexit is fucking huge well I need to send
an upgrade I'm sorry I need to send you are you really sorry yeah I should have done
it before I feel sorry for you why you have a tank on that class bro this tanks fine
You don't like this one?
Absolutely not.
It's getting better.
Every patch they've been buffing it,
so I think it will just continue to see that streak
for probably another like maybe two expansions
and then it will be good again.
More high.
No, they've been buffing it,
like every patch since the expansion launched.
5% armor.
Uh, yes, fire it up
Yes, I already answered him in life. W in life. Yeah
All right
Pulled our thing
Yeah, it's fine. I'm saying no, I'm a trigger out in trash. Yeah
I don't even think I'm going to win this game.
I'll ask if they know.
I don't even think I'm going to win this game.
You should definitely do it, right?
You're not going to win this game.
You're not going to win this game.
Oh, I see someone else is granting you a gun for you.
I see.
You said group 1 and group 2.
Yeah, you're not going down.
You have a butler?
Yeah, we are not doing Zerpie in my phase on purpose.
Is that what that channel is for?
Zerpie in my phase, is that meant?
be in my face is that meant I wasn't meant are you playing holy you're playing
holy that'd be chill I think how do you blacklist renewed hope on my frames
this is annoying fuck you priest
What the hell?
Yo chill, man.
No, no, no, no.
Zerpie's belt to the migrate.
Zerpie's belt to the migrate.
Why is he getting inner-rate in this rage?
Lock in, method time.
Alright, I'm just bossing through.
Oh.
Zerpie.
No, I've lost this one.
Uh, just nice farm.
Raining.
I feel like it's whatever, bro.
In the...
It's getting raged, Ty.
I don't know.
But it's like...
I'm just making a sway, bro.
That's actually throwing me off.
I want you to paste.
More nice.
Bro, I actually didn't know we were doing that, like, calling in with the spells or shut up so you know I didn't know what all I've just said.
Yeah, I just, I just, I just...
It's just fucking...
Dude, is it like G or D?
Next time, uh, this is group one going down here, I think.
a shine to not a live hammer while I try yeah that uh
I want to I want to do the long-range shack thing shack made the spirits go literally like the other complete side of the room
Yep
can't see it so you have to like make sure yeah we just need to calm on where it goes off
yeah I think they're really fast or really slow right yeah well I think it's just they
can't see it right so like maybe you caught them by surprise yeah they were completely stunned
yeah they get pulled out and stunned in it I mean prop values is like really ideal because
I can hit the box you think about it it's actually good it's a DPS increase yeah it's
It's got Bane's LS. Did that shit work?
It's fucking legendary.
Remind, uh, group 2 go. Group 2 go.
Exile, Trill, Impact, Eagle Scout, Boomi Bird.
Make sure ads are watched here.
Think this spells soon, right?
Yeah, now.
He's just randomly talking again.
Bro, I just looked and I thought it was walking the wrong way.
and it had his shield
fuck
it's like just running against the wall
he saw the carnage and wanted to go back to his op
he didn't want to go back home
it's gonna push like right after this as well
it's time for no work
does it do the John Way that's closest to him when he phases?
John Way, bro
I don't know if it's just round them all
let's see
I'll take a one on one
if it's this one I'm just gonna say it's true
it went both
it's true
I mean, it's just uh
This is not doing your own research is group one. I think you're going down soon ish not future though
Yeah, she acts so transrounding
That's the bro exile. That's a way bro. That's a waste like what did you gain? What did you gain? Be honest group one?
You're ready to go down soon. Actually, but this is everybody
So killer so killer so big big hit and
Everyone else burn. There's something that's something allegedly
probably the other Joe way mom Joe way going to other Joe way get in
This is the only one I have not come up with remember last time we didn't take job. I see yeah
What it's the timer on the like what time?
It's not on yet. It's one of the guys three seconds and there's like a second until it like starts casting
15 okay downstairs just like get your next
Here's the soak rush you fucked it up already
Make sure you hold full down
Don't use full downs in this phase
You can use it early, I'd say
Yeah
Let's go over the case one
I'll switch to the middle
Like you 0 CDs right now
You should hold for the burn especially cause we didn't lost
Yep
Make sure you're in the soak
Healer's soak is healer's soak
I would have been good to know
Damn, and the timers are a little
They're burning under the boss, maybe...
I don't know if they dropped...
I don't know if I left...
Right here.
Yeah, boss is back.
Where did he jump, boss?
Cannot let a single add go in, because this enraged might be a sweepy.
Yup.
Did this interrupt your gas?
This interrupts your gas, by the way, and Vogue interrupts your gas stop.
I'm gonna do...
Oh my god.
There's a little buzz.
I knew it.
Might as well grab that.
We only have one DK as well
Okay, this is uh group one i think group one go
Yeah
Well adds on the other side heaps
Getting the tank mech as well
I can't grip that luster
I'm back up quick style. I give you a refresh just leave it on me. Invoke when you come out by the way, care.
Is it Gucci?
That's all this is so much. I'm not going to be there for grip, so you see see.
I'm personally I'm like that's fun. Yeah, okay, is that 45 energy? I think we're on track, right?
As long as no ads going okay
Invoke here out of the nothing
I wonder if we how long can you delay like if basically if you don't send anyone down to get the cake you just get smoked
Is that how the site works?
I'm just you're right?
Paul said 100 energy kills us, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Uh, group one in five seconds then?
Wait, someone has to go down.
I'm going to have to go down.
It's going to cast some force.
I went down.
I went down.
Okay.
But it's going to cast a river.
Yeah, just resin when he comes back up.
Group one, go down.
It's fine.
They're going down now.
It's chill.
It's chill.
Dude, W hopeful, by the way.
I mean, that's my goat.
You're getting a raise for that.
Nice.
Okay.
That was a lie by the way, that's like when Shaq tells the helpers that they're getting like a million dollars or something
Alright, okay, I do send dollars to the helpers though
Some of them just don't like gold
Yeah, we're fine
Don't go down again, right? Just burn
It'll be funny
I don't even think there's an ad down there, I don't even see a nameplate
It's getting sucked in
Is it just you just get sucked for the rest of the fight? That's how it works?
You're fucking nose bro
You could probably just chill with him then
all cloak nice
oolah
the big hit
why does it say so
i want to pop the loop
it's just me
it's just you i think
there's a firstly tennis
it's right before the blood open
i'm stunned bro
i don't know how to do that
i'm just fucking afk off the floor
i was slinging shields from across the room
I need to zone out and upgrade some stuff because I just got the fucking good
We can wait we get the bus sign
I mean, that's fine like what are the chances like one one one and one and eggs out is bring like that
Come on, bro. Why do you bring a bad memory?
That's so mean eggs out
I mean, that's me on the Nick, would that bring out Dr. Pilot to save?
I don't, I have nothing against Nick C-51, I should have called him Nick.
We're talking about the main Nick, yeah.
Yeah, that makes sense, I see.
Can we do the other one in the trash?
Let's do Nick and then Nick too.
Well, we can just do, I feel like we should just do C-51.
Yeah, but people don't really know it's full name.
I just don't miss the other nick.
Oh my god.
Let's go channel the whole thing.
Got a girdle?
A girdle?
A girdle?
Girdle?
Channel slot.
Channel slot, this is a box.
Let's make some more channels, fuck it.
La Maday is a mage.
Hello. Hi.
La Maday.
I guess I know fired up someone was in my group finder and they left for your keymet.
Oh, perfect.
I find that key would have ended with the count off anyways.
We're swapping.
the count this season is bugged
it is
maybe it is crazy bro
literally you end up with like 1% missing
if you're a warlock you just off camp
well the craziest shit is
just you mailbox this patch
you just get mailed like
for the housing and the items
just fucking me
yeah
yeah but i think they don't get fixed in the 0.5
yeah
hahaha
fire for the point five because it doesn't do better in the right end of the point five
oh my god they'll do better but it's this patch
under the old thing better is this patch
He walked it.
He walked it.
I should kill you, I got that.
I was like calling myself up for this well in the first boss, and I was like so confused
It wasn't happening and I was just muted
Because you was saying I make sounds that I'm
Looted a BLE in that room, so I think there is an old truck
I'll be back. Make sure everyone's in the trash.
Every trashmob can drop this very low chance for every low trashmob.
There could be a left turn here.
I'll be in the red since so don't worry about me.
I got 38 gold. I got 38 gold.
I got bugged. I got sent back to Wilkin.
When it was a big fucking dungeon called also yeah, I
Got knocked across the world
The fuck
The fuck the spell wording. Uh, oops
Do I have a spell wording? Yeah, she hit the troll. He's getting spam stunned. Okay. I can't right now. I'm under range, but
coming I'm here now okay that's forwarding cool I'm clicking I'm clicking
well it goes through it's time me through this belwording that's good oh I found it
bang
dude you know what you're getting that spell wording just remind me of no he's
lippin' here yay
that's the one we had that one time
holy shit
jane on the bridge
no we don't knock me
leave him in the olb
you remember the coal you made sure
it was a fucking good
I was there too it was the fuckin'
we were both those
it was like me and free musketeers
but we'd get olb together all the time
just fuckin' do it
And that was right after we played all sub-robin on Zul.
Err, what did they say?
Legit.
You came back.
Check your number.
It was, yeah.
Yeah.
Ben named the Strut.
Bro, that was so nice of you with the right strut, bro.
Hello, everybody.
Welcome back from that monster energy.
Listen in.
If you are just now tuning in, we did just get a world first.
Alienware.
World first kill.
We're now three out of eight getting down the sentinels and moved into Nimrissa
a little bit ago and we decided a little bit too hard also we fired jet so if now we have cams yes place
hello cams hello yes i was hoping to come to cammer because i wanted to do something for everybody
oh we can listen instead oh watch it now yeah oh it's smoking nice
some people try and figure out which one i'm drinking at home tonight oh yeah any guesses chat
any guesses what we're sipping on off that click what was the uh described i tried to make cams go
Go here last race, but he said no, no, no.
Go here.
Sonja, get it.
Rehab, there it is.
They tried to get it.
Wow.
That was a really, really, really bad.
Really, how did they know this?
Rehab.
Like, joke slash thing.
Oh, sorry.
I wonder what it is.
The song.
Well, if you've been following my monster consumption
throughout this race, the rehab
has been the main monster, I think.
The main monster?
OK.
I'm going to be honest.
I've been feeling it too, yeah.
The rehabs?
Yeah.
because of the amount of candy I've been eating at night but some of these
others are kind of sweet for me what I normally love the ultras but they're
just feeling too sweet because it's fair those are nice and smooth yeah yeah I
think they have coconut water in them too right oh coconut water and
electrolytes recovery and then botanicals non-carbonated milk this will
what did I just say and queer city I like the orange ones last race to the
Rehabs are really good too. They were like mmm. I forgot the flavor tea is just orange. It was like a peach something
Oh, yeah, yeah, oh, and they've had like raspberry. Oh, and then of course the strawberry, which yeah, I find yeah
I need that one best one. I like the grapefruit one
It's really good. There was one the fizzy one. It's fizzy. There was one that I saw I think it's called ruby red and
There was one left and I went over with THD and we were both gonna pick out a monster and he was like
Which one should I get and I was like, oh have you tried Ruby Red?
It's one of my two favorites. He said no, I haven't tried that so I gave him the last Ruby Red
Oh
And I think he said it was it was good
The white one has a bit of a grapefruit flavor. You think so? I think there's a little bit in there. Hmm. Yeah, okay
That's fair. It's fair. He's a white monster fan. I think he's usually right. He is yeah
Yeah, but you trusted my trust my recommendation that time. I had the Ruby Red before it was very good
I think you recommended to me last race actually me. I think so. Which one did I oh the Ruby Red?
Yeah, I think so. I also like a boring orange dream school is really good, too
That one's there so like rarity hiding. Yeah. Oh, are they I feel like they're also very sweet
so
If we had to be prepared for those ones get another monster shipment in which we probably will make who knows yeah
Monster if you're listening at monster energy in chat. We need some bad apples in here
Okay, are we making can we have a little rose ones too, please?
So yeah, they're I don't know what the flavor is, but they're very tasty and the bottle looks quite cool
This cams. I would like to say I'm sorry to start for the monster stuff because we're in mythic and they're pulling a boss
I haven't seen much of the sirs turtles. This is the turtles the loss explorers. They one shot in in their first group
Yes, yes, it is indeed and I don't really know the mythic mechanic on this fight
I normally don't pay too much attention to these early ones because they just roll over but we're gonna be seeing this boss a lot
They're pretty good bit. Yeah, so there's not a whole lot of changes. I think the box is when you pop them
They do like a we like right there on the rain frame to see on goop's frames
So they're absolutely pop the box and it's like a really explosion around the box
So you can't pop like multiples back-to-back or like it does the whole raid multiple times. I believe it does more damage
To you as well. Excuse me. I don't believe honestly. There's much else besides that on this boss
I think things hit harder. Obviously during ptr
I believe they changed like their ultimates a bit, but I don't think that's the case anymore. Oh, that's change
Yeah, okay
That was the one thing I knew is that they're ults like the the guy to you to the soak slam
He just chained it up on them and like made puddles like all over the place
I believe there's three frost and fire drops in heroic
I could be wrong, but there's four here
But for most part me if you've done this fight on heroic you've done on mythic pretty much
Okay, unless you're the person that's popping the boxes and that's just sort of like a hunter slash
your helper job. Someone who's gonna have a lot of damage, but you know, is mobile as well. I don't have my sheet for this boss, but...
You know, I've realized that I have a lot of duplicates.
Yeah, you won't call this sheet.
Well, here's one duplicate. Here's that. I'm so sorry.
Grab that one. Here.
I don't need it.
Hi, Cora. Come here. Hello.
I feel like those shells bounce around more on testing.
So the shells are bugged on PTR.
They would come out like like in a frontal of three shells, but they would launch at a different angle
It's show like in one direction. They would launch it behind the boss instead
It was exceptionally annoying. Thankfully they're not like lure glaze where they bounce back at you
But it definitely becomes a bit of a headache if you're like stuck doing other mechanics and it's okay
Well, we have shells coming where are they? I don't know and it's conglomeration of turtle mechanics, but
another thing that makes
especially for me
Like having not done the test you just look at a council boss, and it's just like there's a lot of stuff in here and
Yeah, very little of it. You like need to pay attention to you know
There's so many debuffs and random abilities things do that you like actually don't need to know
It's hard. So here here comes the slam. So do you only get a slam if it is an ultimate like this here?
Yeah, so this is one of the ultimate
Yeah, so this is like basically the box in the floor like you run into the boxes on the floor there you go to
look at
Since I try and pop them into the fish in one of the boxes, right?
Mm-hmm.
And then the boss is channeling along ability if you can see it on the boss rooms there like the
Merzali guy. I don't know his name exactly. If that cast
reaches completion and goes off it'll enrage the bosses and does it like additional damage and stuff.
You want to throw the fish at one of the three bosses, whichever one you throw the fish at, it'll do like its ultimate or whatever.
It'll give it an ultimate. So that's one of them there. So you're gonna have these two soaks come in
which you have to like split evenly among the raid. It leaves these pools from the floor permanently.
Now what they're doing is pretty cool. They're actually stacking them in the middle of the room a
lot of the group to test it with put them on the edge of the room for more like
You know free space, but they're getting max uptime on the bosses here because the DPS check on this boss
sexual or tight for a lot of groups so
Optimizing damage there some of the first mechanic of the first ultimate come in already which is like the fire and frost circles
You basically just want to drop them like separate and run to deposing
You know element if you're firing on the frost and it clears the puddle
And the last one is gonna be like this big bomb that goes out. It happens twice
like one player gets a bomb on them and they run to one part of the room, drop the bomb and mushrooms spawn in.
The mushrooms would go near them. It's like the Winter Inspire end boss.
You guys can walk into it, pop it, it will knock you over the big like bomb that comes out. It happens twice.
You cannot gate it, you can like blink it and circle it, I believe. But besides that, it's basically rinse and repeat.
Just make sure the boss that's channeling right there, like that red dude in the middle,
doesn't complete his cast or he'll like an rage and do much damage to the raid.
Okay, so I loved watching Goop, he did like a cool, he had the blink on him
and he ran into the other boss and they did a taunt swap so that they kept all the bosses next to each other.
It's pretty nifty, it's pretty nifty, I mean, so that happened.
We thought during PTR, it might have made a change where you can't stack any of the bosses, you can stack two.
But all three, if they're together, the, I think it's, I don't know which one, I think it's Gebel in the back actually.
He has an ability, it's like, defense bulwark, where they all take 9% reduced damage if they're all stacked together.
So you can have two stacked, like you see here.
But Gello is doing his own thing in the back of the room, sort of like walking around on his own little adventure.
Which is, you know, I am cool.
Sort of like Cam's and I wander back to the hotel at night after eating three pizzas at two in the morning.
Yeah, somebody told me that you waited two hours for me to eat pizza.
Oh my goodness.
There's the bomb right there.
It took forever.
It takes a while, yeah.
Like, you want to get close to the mushroom, and then you hate pizza.
Oh, the pizza didn't do anything.
They both did, it's okay. They both were good, no one died here either. Actually well one person died but it's fine. They wouldn't have survived the pizza either way.
Okay so that's one bomb. Other bomb comes in right afterwards. I think it's actually already maybe dropped. They're gonna kill the boss regardless here. We have to jump basically two bombs.
Like one on the left, one on the right, and the pool eventually clears and stuff. And that's just the fight. The biggest thing is the DPS check. You're gonna see the bomb right there but they're gonna kill the boss anyways.
What's the fourth boss frame?
That's like the guy's channeling Morzalli or whatever.
They actually made a wipe here because they didn't...
Oh, wait, what is it?
Alright, they need to kill Skrull Sage as well as his head.
There's people who are alive.
Yeah, they need to kill Skrull Sage, and it should be good.
I think they use the mushrooms actually.
Okay, that was a weird way to go.
Let's just happen.
You don't want to use all the mushrooms if you do.
Oh, give us a bag. It's big.
A bag.
Let's go.
Big W.
Very nice.
Alright, let's see who that goes to.
Well, they probably won't hand the loot out until the end.
Do you think they still do that in these?
Yeah, four hours, right?
Yeah.
I wait on it, yeah.
Is it four hours?
You very likely want to wait.
It might be two, actually, at this point.
You likely want to wait in case they
nerf Nimbresa quickly, because that boss is really
a tricky one, as well, for Caster, but not melee.
So you probably want to wait a bit, yeah.
I don't know.
They can kill.
As long as it doesn't continue to ramp,
we're talking a little bit on our break about Nimbresa.
If it ramps through the fight, the damage, then yeah,
it'll be becoming possible.
But I was with jet where it was like this doesn't look that bad. This looks doable. I
Mean one pole is not enough to like fully tell no right
And they had some like the rage dance pulsing
And I don't know if those just come in after the big knock or if those were ads that weren't killed and that like killed somebody off
And then you know just kind of
The the yellowing of everything also killed some people right like you know
It takes a little bit for the healers to know when to use all their cool downs and things like that
And like when the big damage is happening and I don't it's it's a thing where they get five poles in you look at it and go
Like oh, yeah, this is not bad, right?
I know that's again something ramps throughout the fight because yes, then I don't think they can survive. Yeah, I
Don't know. I think you want to go pull that just the show
Hey, this needs to be tuned likely and just see what happens. It was tunes it
You have time to like change splits great if not then just it whatever it is what it is. Yeah, but yeah
something I don't like this is this happening a lot with
modern game design and the armchair commentary about it is like everybody
looking at things in the game and like trying to like how is this supposed to
be designed and then how does this measure up to how we think it was
intended to be designed and stuff like that and sometimes it's like let's just
pull the boss guys and stop complaining about this is this is too hard they want
the layer to be this or that and it's like the race race to world first
you should pull the impossible bosses and slam your heads against them and I
I know it's different that they're wanting to be efficient with time and they're wanting
to get the most amount of loot and just in case it does get nerfed they want to save
it.
I understand why they're doing all that.
But I also don't look at that boss and go, oh my goodness, nerf this.
This isn't how they intended it.
What's going on?
Terrible.
Well, you're right.
I mean, previously, yes.
Pre-nerf, yes.
Yes, pre any of the nerfs, yes, that was crazy, but...
So you think they're overthinking it is what I'm...
Not overthinking.
I'm just worried one about Sandy Winy that like oh my goodness these bosses are too hard
this needs to change because it's only they're only too hard in a way that's
like they're harder than before and it blizzard mean to make them this hard then
maybe you can calm too hard but if it's like this just a hard raid sometimes
they're easier sometimes are harder I don't know I think it's kind of cool yeah
I think it will attack being that hard on her oak was kind of cool I don't
like that we've been doing a bunch of splits. Yeah. Yeah. That's like a different problem
that's been snowballing for a long time. So I don't know if you can really blame. Yeah.
The design on that because no matter how anything is designed, they're going to do a stupid
amount of prep. Yes, probably, you know, be a fun graph. What to take every race
reverse that we have ever casted and see how many how many minutes into the
broadcast it took until somebody said the word nerf nerf yeah yeah yeah that'd be a
good bit Jarvis fine yeah I feel like just send Hula on it for a radar radar
radar just go flying nerf yeah I feel like people wouldn't like the answer to
that but maybe I don't know I don't have that data sorry okay well we can
only speculate you know it wasn't that long just just just you gotta get on that
hula come on yeah yeah where's the where's our data you told me ask if I
needed any data I'm asking yeah yeah yeah oh hula said sorry like a Canadian
and got you okay yeah 20 minutes on day one the only time I think it's
warranted to actually call for nerfs is just watching perfect attempts get
completely hard walled by something or if the math say like the Razageth
shield or like the intermission that I can't remember which one of those things
was like three times higher than it ended up being on the kill when it's just
like this is like literally impossible then I think you know this the needs to
change but we've seen them do some crazy stuff on bosses I thought were like
actually impossible like answer I the day they killed it I was crying for a
nerf
I thought later when they killed it, I could not believe it, that's awesome.
I think that shows as a motion, there's nothing wrong with that.
No, nothing at all.
Cam is a strong individual.
I should have seen him fight the lion back in the hotel last night.
Okay, what?
There's a lion that roams the streets apparently.
Is it a cat?
Yeah, big cat.
Big mountain cat.
Big mountain cat.
Santa Monica.
The lion.
Are you serious?
Yeah.
Is this some kind of lore that I don't know about?
Yeah, the lion.
I'm not even kidding. I just saw a lion a few races ago, so we keep our eyes open. We're vigilant.
A lion a few races ago?
We're very vigilant.
Wow, I was scared of like predators and stuff. Human predators.
Well, the lion, too.
Yeah, there's a lion apparently out there.
The lion comes to the human predators all the same.
Yeah.
I'm hungry.
I'm really good at begging people for rides back to the hotel room.
You definitely should now with the lion.
Yeah, now I'm really going to do that.
Now, if anybody gives me any grief, I'm going to be like, listen.
You want me to be mauled?
Do you want me to be mauled or kidnapped?
You're a runner, just...
I'll run the lion, yo, okay, that's a great idea.
Is there a zoo nearby?
No, they're kind of trying to kite it into someone's yard.
Maybe there's like a dog or something.
Kite into a dog?
Just kite the lion!
Karen, what's wrong with you?
That's amazing.
I hope you never tell your daughter these type of things.
The sale
That's dangerous
Yeah, anybody but you that's
All right, well
It's just gonna kite the lion just the curse of exhaustion to lion again catch you
That's my favorite bit is just throw your pizza behind you.
He's pointing your head, he's pointing your head.
So wait, so tell me about last night.
So I woke up this morning and there was Parmesan cheese packets and pepper packets on my desk.
So no talk about how to take it.
No, I was supposed to do some big pizza mukbang last night.
Okay.
And it didn't happen?
There were a bunch of pedals.
They were like, uh, well we're gonna go back early.
Okay.
I was like well I need to I need to like I need to eat something I don't know
what it is I don't want Taco Bell right now because I don't want to burn out
too much pizza anyways cams cams like no I don't want pizza I don't know and then
it's gonna re-invent history here now and then so cams was like I want one
pizza I want pizza like cams like supreme pizza but I don't want any
supreme pizza like just glass on it and stuff you know like meat and vegetables
yeah and uh and uh so I was like I want a chicken pesto pizza so we order it
like so specific yeah well they have one was good I ordered a pizza with my
pizza had get prepare yourself chef okay and free free obviously grilled
chicken, pepperoni, bacon, beef, ham, garlic, artichokes, cilantro, ricotta cheese, and something
else. I forgot what it was. Oh, jalapeno, jalapeno. So 10 toppings with a little bit of ranch.
I don't know. He's pizza. In cams, I want a piece of your pizza, a piece of Zyra's pizza.
I just got on a supreme pizza anyways. He ate one piece. We waited an hour for it
to get here. An hour for it to get here. One 35 rolls around. I'm sitting on a stream
I'm like, oh, I'm going to bed.
But it got here at 1.40.
We had a pizza mukbang, some terrible pictures of me
emerged, and then we went to bed.
Oh, my gosh.
Can we see those pictures?
Maybe.
There's only one.
If they want to pull it up, sure.
I would love to see it.
And then we could do that thing where we're like,
where we tell people to Photoshop it.
33 minutes left on the clock.
I think that's time.
That's time to be able to Photoshop things.
I want to defend myself.
from what? His allegations. He said we're ordering pizza, do you want pizza? And I said
I'll have a slice, I don't want my own pizza. I just kept saying I only want one piece,
I only want one piece. I was like you can have a piece of mine and I was like okay. And
then the pizza comes and there's a whole third pizza. And he's like you said your
favorite was Supreme because he asked me what my favorite pizza was. That's very sweet
of him. So I didn't order a Supreme pizza, I just... He's mad. No, I'm not mad. I
I feel like a waste of pizza and money.
Well, Twitch can't pay for it, if that's your number, so.
Oh yeah, I've heard you've been rallying your stream to feed you.
Well, I traveled to Petal Star and they said whatever food,
money we get, we'll buy food with it in the post videos.
And then with the bed early.
OK.
Oh yeah, then they left.
They broke up the beefy five.
How could they?
They're back tonight.
Don't worry.
That's horrible.
They're back tonight.
Don't worry.
OK.
Well, what's on the menu tonight?
Your living moss?
We might order more pizza.
More?
We might get more pizza.
All right.
We'll see. The night is young.
That's exciting.
We're going to shift tomorrow unless Zyra needs a swap.
And then we'll see.
But I think Canada will shift tomorrow after you together.
Early. Oh, the noon one.
I think so, yeah.
That's where it has early.
I got up at three o'clock today, so.
Yeah, you said you went to bed at like 4am last night,
right, Kams?
Yeah, it's about 3am, I think.
3am.
When do we have to get back?
Probably 2.30.
After running away from the line, of course.
Well, we didn't see him last night.
We were ready with our pizza if we needed to be.
So yeah, yeah, it's a good time feeding the local population stay late one time. I
You know, I have I do have extreme FOMO from not staying around late, but I'm an early bird
I'm really bird. Someone's gonna hold it down at seven in the morning here
Yeah, Dratnos also stays late and comes in at seven in the morning. Well that man is not a human
I so
And really come as early as me also to be fair. It's just me and teach
Josephine in the building usually
I don't know how he does it like he goes to bed. He leaves here like sometimes
Well, we do it that time. That's early. It's two in the morning. Yeah, he's back like eight
I don't know there. There are people that there's like I think an actual word for it
There are people that need less sleep than the average person and they come up in the same way
And I wish I had that
Thing whatever that is and if and if I don't I like I don't know how to obtain it
But I'd like to also that'd be really nice
I yeah, that would be nice. Yep. I have like a I have a I have always had okay
We're doing nothing right now. I had a soccer coach when I was I don't like a middle school or something
But this anxiety in my head that if I don't get eight hours hours of sleep, I'm gonna die
So that's true weird thing where if I don't get eight hours of sleep
I'm gonna have like the worst day ever. Yeah, you just combust basically. Yeah
Yeah, yeah, I like convinced myself. I'm dying
No, it is important to get your sleep the older we get that is yes, we need absolutely
But you know much one day like seven and a half hours a second to kill you
No, I don't think so
He isn't sleeping much at all. No, yeah. Well, no, I do sleep. It's just been shifted
I think it up and you know six or seven in the morning. You're sleeping this race isn't better or worse at home
Oh, I'm sleeping so good here. Yeah
Here's it for me. It works. I
I learned this ironic has to sleep diagonally on the beds
Because he's so tall oh my gosh, he's that he just
That's what he has at home he says yeah, I have that too at home. Oh
He literally is six seven. I think you know wait that is an unfortunate height. So it's a city height
Dippin 672 who dip in really PC old GM. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. It's kind of this time
Okay, well, I'll know how to find him. Let's find the super tall guy
We're doing a pose down on the fountain stairs. I got Olympia pose down like all the tall
No, I know you pose down. We're getting our trunks on it
Mr. Olympia. Yeah
They're like flexing
They're like flexing.
You guys are going to go to the fountain and flex?
Oh yeah, we got a whole production company coming and everything, yeah.
We're calling it Mr. Blizzcon.
We're actually not doing this at all, but I think we did.
Oh, he's excited!
You swim trunks on them, okay. No shirt, no socks, something like that.
What about flippers? Are flippers allowed?
Yeah, oil up and everything, yeah.
Flippers are working.
Tannin foam?
What is it?
Tannin foam.
Oh, yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah, we're all gonna get tanned to wear them anyway, so yeah
Yep, yep, I will say this race goes long
There is a world I just stay here and don't go home to Blizzcon
There's a lot of people that world is becoming more and more of a thing well
I think this goes on man that reality is emerging mm-hmm. Yeah, I think this is go ahead
I'm thinking like okay. I get here on the ninth for bliss. Hi back here
Yeah, we leave them the second currently, but that's just like a whatever thing.
So I don't know, it'd be like the fourth, I think I'd just stay.
Wait, what day is it?
I was just checking as well.
Our flights are on the second.
Yeah, that's all like, it's whatever, they move them all the time, right?
Yeah, but I just, what day is that?
That's a...
Tuesday or what?
Tuesday, third reset Tuesday?
Probably.
Okay.
Probably?
This is getting really close to BlizzCon.
I mean, what's I'm saying?
I'm saying because you said you hear the night I get back in the night if I stay
I just don't leave right yeah I don't go home where would you stay if you stayed for blizzcon
if I tied my room for a few days they might not notice take certainly would I
notice be like absorb yourself into the LCS team be one of them they true yeah
see if they'd adopt you hide in the clothes over there you can do that
there's lots of places I think you can hide in this office I don't I figure
that out if this phrase does puts like third it's third reset right
essentially the second reset what was that mean if it went like to not if it
didn't die this next week yeah then it'd be going to third is it third cuz we're
in first right now oh we're asking a lot next week is yeah right alright so
like but you're counting first three sets like the non like okay I see what you're
saying it's like the non relevant raid recently so it would be third reset if
it goes a third reset yeah that this would be the first raid in I mean since
Sepulcher sepulcher. Yeah that went that long. I think chances are actually relatively high. So if you map this out
You're looking at a splits first of today Monday, whatever right Tuesday rolls around. Hello
So Tuesday
Why did you do a bit of heroic splits random stuff here and there whatever it leaves them plus no table?
When I mean you cannot split mythic next week though
Because it's like one lockout from you. You're going in but you're gonna do her. Well, there's a third
We can talk about trans bonds instead you guys have been helping us raise money for UNICEF
kill dot gg slash donate if you'd like us to take a look at your trans blog and we're
going to get through some of these before we head to dinner ourselves this one is from
fuzzy shum.
This is a shaman?
Yeah a draenei restoration shaman.
It's pretty cool, yeah. You don't see a lot of like purple shaman. That's true. It's it's very true to to drain eyes as well
I feel like yeah the staff it looks like they're wizard capital city called
Exodar yes. Yes. Yes. Oh, what is arid are?
Arid are the race they're right exodar is their little ship. No idea. I just know there's a lot of rocks
It's a pink, a spacey looking.
Okay, I get this on 8.3 as a solid, I like this a lot, yeah.
Matches are set as you can see, Cam, so the pink will go behind us, but in there.
Oh, so I don't like the belt and I like the gloves, but I do like everything else.
Yeah.
You know, Fuzzy, you know, I appreciate your presence, but this is like a 7.
Oh, it's gonna say 7 also.
This is a match very well, buddy.
Oh, the colors.
Yeah, the colors are nice. I do like I do like myself a what do they call space space goat?
Oh, yeah, I had a friend named that now. I know what he why he named himself that he was an arid
art person, an arid art person, a dry night.
That's what it is.
Now it's 10 years later.
Wow. Oh my gosh.
All right, so that's just donated slash donate if you'd like to take a look at yours.
Here's the next one.
Oh, this is cool.
What the heck are those shoes?
Oh, they're like fire shoes.
So are the wings from the new, this patch thing, right?
The new bell?
Yeah, yeah, it's a Delve reward, I think so at least.
There's a couple different variations of it.
Yeah, I like this little Impishelish demon.
I do too.
Yeah.
It's pretty like, what's the word?
Symmetrical?
Symmetrical, because you know what it is?
Symmetrical.
It's about all that.
Cohesive?
Monocone?
Cohesive, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cohesive.
Yeah, this is a great one.
I'm gonna go with a quick nine.
A quick nine?
8.7, 8.7, 8.7, 8.7, not too bad.
I will get it, I'll give it an eight, I think.
Okay.
I'm gonna go eight, yeah.
Okay.
All right, thank you so much for your submission.
Oh, boots are from Manaforge.
Oh, I don't know that.
Oh, maybe the Demon Hunter boss,
the special boots there, possibly.
Oh, could be.
Or maybe.
I was looking last night,
I was doing my own research.
Oh.
Oh, I think this is, this is a, what is this?
Well I know that it's a gnome.
It's a gnome blood, am I?
No, it's from, no blood, oh this is MRSA, this is MRSA.
Calyx-ly-me.
Mibling is this, I don't even believe.
Yeah.
My, you're a tall one.
Yeah, I like gnome blood.
My first war, well the war to play now
was initially a gnome.
You didn't know that.
Time is money, friend.
Yes, yes indeed.
I like gnome blood, Tashalak here.
I think it's a set though or no.
Okay, listen. I know Merca and I know she would never.
She would. Okay, okay. She is really good at transmog.
All right. All right. So, yes.
No, I never rocked full set. Yeah, yeah. How dare you?
Partial set. I know that ten doesn't count.
Okay, yeah. No, this is a nine. This is really good.
I think this is solid. This is looking like...
Here we go.
A 6.7. No, this is like a 9.1 thing. 9.1.
9.1, okay. Tim's what it was. An 8?
an eight okay all right do you have to like partial numbers no full numbers
only yeah I think Marcia submitted a few as well so we can see the whole
record oh okay very nice smorgasbord I'm sorry it is yes I love that word but I
never say it right he always makes fun of me
driving with his judging gaze he walks by staring at us he's too nice they're all
Sweetie pie is a paladin. Well, they get yeah connection there cams. That's why they pay you the big bucks
This is a Ellie shaman. Oh
I can see that. Oh, it's like it has a degree. Where's that belt from? I see it before I don't know where
I like that help from a Mirch or so is it? I don't know. I think it merges like a darker green
Okay. Well, I know Marcia's in chat. Maybe Marcia can let us know.
I like that.
Hunter Belt from last year, somebody says.
Hunter Belt from last year.
OK. I like it.
It matches the shoulder's weapon pretty well.
Yeah, it's cohesive.
Yeah, I like that.
Yeah, looks good.
I also like drainers.
Is it a drain or a light forge?
No, it's a Morgan.
Is it a Morgan?
No, it's a Morgan.
Oh, it's a Drain.
OK, it's a Horn.
Uh,
a Morgan.
It's looking wide.
Huh?
What are their warrants do?
Yeah.
Actually, I have no idea what they do.
I don't.
They're wolves.
They have ears, I think, which I can customize.
Oh, right, in the top hat.
I think so.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that's like the default.
Yeah.
It's actually an interesting opening storyline for.
I was very into Twilight when those came out.
So I was like, oh, I'm going to play through the war
good storyline, the werewolves.
But this is like a nine.
This is a nine.
I like this a lot.
It's very nice.
I like it too.
9.1
But if you'd like to submit your own till that gg slash donate with $30 plus a link a link to your armory
Or we're also looking at photos of pets
I don't know what is up in the air this season, but it seems like a lot of people are like sending broken links
Or just no links at all, but make sure it makes their works
You know do us a favor do the mods a favor make sure verify that the the link that you are sending does actually direct to a photo of your pet
Let me take a look at your pet. You know, I did say yesterday
That we would technically accept pictures of gaming setups and rate those very aggressively true
No, one's not it. However, may I add something?
Bonus points if it's alien weird very true very true. We'll be fair. We'll be fair. There's a baseline amount
It will start at yes. Yes. We want to start right now anywhere, but we will add points for Alienware is W Alienware
Also, I hid my
lizard man
Those things the painted man yesterday the lizard man set in the mecha collion
That's pointing out. Oh, very well. Well, maybe we'll find it. Oh wait. Hold on. Let's look at this transmog first
Oh, oh my god. Oh my god. This is the 10 that is fantastic
Guardian Druid. Moorissa also.
It's supposed to be a fish that I used to have in my aquarium.
Oh, hey.
Hello, hello.
I think this is like a...
I like this fish, but...
The fish?
Yeah, 8.1, 8.1, 8.1, I think.
8.1.
This is a nice one.
Wait, you think it looks like a fish?
I had a fish in my aquarium, though.
It's a color effect for that, yeah.
I like it. Ooh, the lesson is cool.
Yes, it's getting better
It's very nature you just on on theme for a door
Someone from Cal's community we did you know what we're talking about? Oh my gosh
I posted it in discord last night. I mean it'd be there for context Calamazee. This was let this was who took the photo first of all
Oh, yeah
Okay, I thought you're a zero one two. Yeah
All right
So took a picture of Kalamazoo while he was eating it was very much like it's like full slide profile
I'm like mid-chew like yeah
The picture you took of the fish I mean is the fish
I posted it in like general chat I think earlier today on my discord. It's so good
I mean you could have brought it upon yourself is
like two seconds. It's already out. It was him wasn't it? I feel like it's telly. He's made like
two hundred seventeen. I don't know. It was definitely him. I'm blaming him. I've done that many times
but not last night. Oh also. Yeah. What's what's up? Shout out. Not Lucy fear but Lucy from the
guild just woke up. Traded me a flask. She ain't got traded a flask. I just looted a one shot
my flask right now it was a it was no I don't need to take carry I have one
account I'm I'm a I game with the fans I game with the fans with my Zenny's
yep wait tell us about those any is the Zenny's yes I'd love to go they're on
my face right now yeah amazing
Wow, they're so firm. They're so firm. They're so firm. They're my Zenny's my favorite at teal.gg slash zenny
Wow, teal.gg slash zenny. That's right. And guess what? What? Code?
What's the code? RWF for what? Up to what?
25% off!
Wow!
Oh my god!
Like you're a slow clap.
That is incredible.
A slow clap.
No.
We're ramping up.
We're ramping up.
We're ramping up.
All right.
It's hard to clap up a mic in my hand, but clap, clap, clap.
You're zenny's.
Get him.
He's excited.
He'll hit from the table.
Like, think about it.
I got a Freight Runners one shot.
That's it.
And guess what?
A Meatherwollack murder road.
Ring one shot with leech.
Woo.
Wow.
OK.
That's amazing.
That was on the main, the one shot with leech.
That's good.
Yeah, and then the Freight Runners was on an all.
He's gonna be in the next mythic split.
Hope you all enjoy this.
Carrying the mythic split.
Yeah, he's trying to help out, you know?
He did Vantus of Lutecto, so it is not too great,
but that world boss might be the Vantus.
That thing is crazy.
I don't know who the hell is doing that.
What is that?
Result may vary.
It's doable.
It's a layer.
Result may vary.
Camps on it was too, actually.
It is doable, but later.
We thought it might have been like a one-pole blizz.
Look at this fight again.
We'll come back later if need be.
Yeah, yeah.
That's exactly what that was.
Okay, okay, okay, and yeah, it's it drops one out of six is a little tough for sure, but
Okay, see stones or sea stones. All right get your zenny's deal by GG size any code rwf up to 25% off
Thank you. She's very kind soul. Thank you, sir
prescription glasses sunglasses. Yeah
Amazing. Yeah, is any one of our amazing partners for the team that would race to world first. You guys are both wearing zenny's
Yes.
I feel lucked out.
We've got another pair on the way.
I'm trying to get you to see me swinging.
Actually, they're...
What are you doing?
Are there any pairs on the way?
Oh.
Is it coming here to the facility?
Yeah, maybe three minutes.
Oh.
You're zenny's?
Yeah, something like that.
Yeah, okay.
Very nicely.
Very nicely done.
Tilda, Gigi, it's all just Gigi slashes.
I didn't use that code.
RWB, you can see it at the bottom of the screen here for up to 25% of it.
I can't guarantee that you're going to get drops quite like that.
But you never know, honestly.
You never know.
meantime we're taking a look at some of your guys's transmog some of your pet
pictures to that GG slash donate we're raising money for you and stuff we just
got to $20,000 and we saw who was it Atlas Dratnos and jet dress up as snakes
did you guys see that I saw it when I walked in this morning in person this
morning did you have to step over Dratnos's tail no but I asked who's in
there and then they threatened us with the posture yes okay that makes sense
I think it was the orange that gave it away for me, but yeah, the delicate hands with lots of hair.
Yeah, I'm gonna go to the snake suit. But there's a there's a donation goal that means that you like in Kansas, the snake suit, I don't know what that means.
Do you know what that means, Cams?
No, I have no idea. I mean, I honestly thought there was gonna be face paints involved in this and me.
Yeah.
I'm not happy that that's not.
That's so true. You're always like the one that has to do the crazy stuff.
Young cams we got a long time still. Yeah, Frank's being nice to me actually. Oh, yeah. Okay
Well, here's not now. You might
Cook something up. Yeah, the race is young the race is young. We haven't even started it's hard to tell either way
Yeah, yeah, okay. Well, we are just kind of
Hanging out a little bit looks like the Raiders are pretty much like done with food
I do see them kind of coming back getting some monster getting some refreshments going to the bathroom stuff like that and
They'll be pretty pretty nice lunch get their food buff
Dinner or dinner? Yeah, I don't know what day it is. I have no idea what day it is. I have muscle meal today
So oh we can see their chicken parmesan beef bolognese chopped salad and pizza bread
They found our pizza. I want the bread. Oh my gosh. I can't eat it
I should oh, what was that? I should just go put those pizzas out on the counter
you still have them oh yeah they're in the building they're in the building
where did you put them in the fridge well okay I thought all right I brought
mine in my hotel room and open the fridge like for the morning it's a water and
the whole room smells like beef this is a bad idea
but it was worth it dude he's like I don't know if I want to eat this or save it for the
morning third he contemplated that decision for like 10 minutes I mean I
I do it, I can't, you gotta make sure you have food on hand,
cause chat, this is a very important lesson to learn here.
If someone asks you if you're hungry,
tell them you can eat, even if you're not hungry.
You never know when your last meal
could be where the apocalypse hits.
Be an opportunistic eater, that's very important.
Don't go into the apocalypse hungry, you're screwed.
Pizza.
I'll probably go into the apocalypse hungry.
Yeah, I'll be like, I should eat, I don't know.
No, no, no, no.
I want to eat my meat tonight.
Jeez.
Damn's a good man.
Can I pivot again?
Of course.
All right.
Please let us change the subject.
I'm going to go check it on the mural.
Is that all right?
Oh, yeah.
I'm going to hop off real quick since we've got nothing going on right now.
I'll be right back.
Hold on.
Oh, yeah.
All right.
There she goes.
There's a mural out in what you might call the lobby.
I don't know if it's really a lobby.
The stadium area.
But it's like where you come in the normal front door.
I'm going to try to record it.
I'm going to try to record it.
Yeah, the trophies are all there. There's kind of this desk that I don't know what they do with it like a podium
Oh, she's got a lot of help. Okay. Now we are all right. Hello everyone
We are going over to the mural. We're breaking the immersion a little bit
But you guys don't know what this is. It is the team liquid Alienware mural
We have had Eve in the building. She is our muralist. Oh, hello Eve. I didn't know if you're gonna actually be here
Hi, we saw hi. I'm to hold on. I'm trying not to trip over some wires
Hello. Okay, so here I'll go like this. Yes, so come on in and we've got your mirror. You've made quite a lot of progress. Yes, incredible.
So tell me about your, I see this progress, which is incredible. Love that. Yeah. Okay.
Yeah.
The portals.
Oh, the turtles.
Sorry, I thought you said portals.
I was like, portals.
Oh, no.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Okay.
Well, up next are the turtles, but this has been a bit of an hour on this guy right
here.
I'm really excited about this.
Okay, well up next are the turtles, but this has been about an hour on this guy
right here. I'm really excited. This is my favorite part. I was having a hard time
doing backgrounds for a full week. I really like it. All right, well what
has been your favorite part so far? Like in this whole process, I guess. Like
what have you been most excited about? Yeah, I'm really excited about.
But I really had fun with those that would be a cool tattoo so maybe someday
Oh cool all right well thank you so much she's also streaming shout out quit
sweating me as my stream come on over we're just painting we're chill you
need the breather. Hello Stream. Alright, well I'll let you get back to work. Thank you so much.
Bye bye Eve. Bye bye Alienware Mural. We're going to head on back to the couch. But thank you everyone
and thank you Alienware especially for letting us do that and Eve for coming and joining us to
the Team Liquid Raceway first. Sorry for that, excuse us. And we'll make our way back to the couch.
Hello.
Hello.
That was nice to see.
Good looking mural.
The boss.
I can't look you to stare into my eyes.
Oh, it's fine.
Okay, I just wanted to talk about the mural.
The bosses are coming in.
Yeah, so we're painting a boss.
Oh, I can't remember if I'm wrong.
We're painting a boss every time we kill a boss.
Is that how it works?
Yes.
So like whenever a boss is defeated, they're more added to the mural.
Yeah, I think that was the next alley we could see.
So, I mean, we have three bosses to add now.
And now she's doing the turtles.
Yeah, right might slow down a little bit until we kill mr. Vashnik, but I mean hey, that's pretty sick
It looks it looks insane
Like I can't it's so cool. Have you seen it in person up close? No looks really good. It's really cool
I honestly I do walk by it every morning. Yeah, but I'm like half awake. It's like I could but what is this oh
If you're gonna put it on put it far over there we go. You got it. Hi the tiger
Wow, you know you're the snack
Yeah, oh my gosh. That is phenomenal. Hello. I don't know how I'm supposed to take this series.
I'm certain I don't know what you're talking about. Alright, well everyone, welcome to the Rainer IO recap.
We are now joined by Hula Snake.
Gosh. Hello, how are you? I mean, I have- Hula Hisse, huh?
That was good. I'll be honest. That's good, I like it. Yeah.
Did you make it yourself? No. Oh, it's very nice.
It's totally different than what a snake can think we feel like, it's very brutal.
Are you just like, touching the snake head?
I'm analyzing.
Okay. Speaking of analyzing, let's talk about what's been going on about the round the race.
We've actually, obviously, as everyone has been watching, we finally have some more mythic prog.
We had a world first earlier today from Liquid, the third boss of the race.
But we do have some other people doing some things, some testing some things.
So let's take a quick look at the mythic leaderboard.
We'll just kind of do a quick around the world to kind of give everyone an update on what
everybody else has been up to in the last 24 hours.
My little note panel work here.
So I mean, we can start with Echo and Method, obviously over in Europe.
So Echo was just being split all day.
They did, the second half of their day was heroic.
Ulotex, they've done 12 total.
They have gone through 12 of their, I believe, 16 or 17 Ulotex splits.
More to go, which they'll finish off when they come back to raid tonight.
They did do a handful of Mythic Nymrissa pulls, and apparently that was one of the split groups
was a little slower than the others, so while waiting for them to finish up, they went and
pulled some Mythic Nymrissa and Tied Bunkerado, and just in some time they did about 9 pulls
and they did get it at 76.2%.
So you know, around that point where the damage ramps, and everyone dies, so basically
what happened there.
Method splits and Mythic Plus kind of following everyone else.
did go dark last night. I don't know why, but they did go dark and don't know what has
happened since then. We'll see when they come back in a few hours if they turn that off or
turn that on and we'll see the data that was missing and I'll give you an update on what's
been going on there over on the coverage page. As for the other big European guilds we normally
focus on, Fat Shirk, yes, Synergy, Heroic Goulotex. Synergy was struggling a little bit,
they've only gotten one kill so far of Heroic Goulotex. Their second split got
got about 10 wipes and then they called it a night. Fat Shark, yeses are going pretty
well. Advanced, same thing, Heroic Ulotec splits. Over in North America, XD, as we know
they are two of eight mythic right now, they're right behind Liquid on the leaderboards, and
no, they actually haven't killed Heroic Ulotec yet. They're working on it right now,
they're at about 21 poles, 21%. Interesting, they chose to wait and do
mythic walks with her. Yes, yeah. And I, as, we are assuming that these are
splits on Heroku-Latek knowing that they are split-gilled. By split-gilled I mean
they just with their own alts. They have a handful of splits. Instant dollars is in
mythic splits right now. So they're also doing mythic splits. They're following
the liquids path. They are going to be doing two mythic split groups. At least
three bosses, hopefully four. That is what instant dollars is currently up
to. So we're going to take a look at that when that goes through. And over in
China, you know, basically just splits and splits and splits. Identity is
about 60% done their heroic splits. Their splits have been going really smoothly. They will
not be doing any mythic splits, they have confirmed. J-Sug, they did have some trouble
with their ulotex splits, overall still going well. They have stated that they do believe
that the final two bosses are too difficult on heroic for the general player base, which
I think is the consensus. Do you know what level they killed them at?
No, they've done a bunch of splits. And then they are currently undecided on if
if they're going to do mythic splits or not.
And then Zhong Zhou, which is the old hot pot hero,
what is happening with my notebook here?
Sorry, team tech.
Off top of your heads, come on, what are we?
It's very cool, don't look too fair.
Yes, I do enjoy my notepad.
Zhong Zhou, they're a horror expulsor,
going pretty average.
Most of their tunes are ready.
They said they have been struggling
to get the Warriors the weapon
and trinket off of the last two bosses,
not having a ton of luck there,
but hopefully they do get a few.
They've been focusing on bosses seven and eight.
They've killed them 15 times.
So they have a quite a large split group.
And Bay again, hasn't been going super smooth.
They are keeping their plans for Mythic Splits
confidential at this time.
So, we're gonna have to wait and see.
They also, when they did start out their splits,
their characters had a little bit of a lower item level.
They didn't all have 15 characters ready.
So prep was mostly leveling.
So their farm and their splits at the very beginning
started a little slower than kind of like liquid echo method.
But they have been keeping up and catching up
as best they can.
And so before I go, I did want to point out
one cool tool that we have,
especially now that we're into the world of mythic splits.
Are you just...
Just get me out of there.
I don't know what you're talking about.
There's nothing.
Eyes down there.
My eyes are here, not up here.
He was seeing the tongue out of the corner of my eye.
Yeah, so I do want to tell us if you can grab the left top.
This is a Florida, every day thing.
Oh, is it there?
There's something all over everywhere in Florida, yeah.
So we're just petting the snake?
It's all the warlocks.
We have to get him out of the house, please.
Head on over to Raider I.O.
There's a cool tool that we have that we use a lot when we're deep in progression
is the roster comparison tool to look at like what is liquid doing versus echoed?
Oh sure, so go there and go to raid tools, compare raid comps. One thing
that's really cool that we can do with this, if you want to add the guild there,
add liquid, we can actually look at liquid versus liquid versus liquid. So
we can compare the split groups on the same boss. Okay, so what do we come here?
So here you just go, the raid is venomous miss, and then mythic, and then pull, so the
the other ones are the kills, so go to first kill of boss, let's do it next alley, yeah,
and go to the first one there, and hit save, do it again for the latest pull, yes, so we
can actually look at the split groups compared to each other, and we can really easily
identify like who are the mains right take a look at the item levels who who are the
mains who are the alts who are the help you know the helpers but the alts who are
they aiming to gear with each one we can see you know like if anyone's
fantasy we can see that which I assume they aren't until probably vashnik or a
later boss anyways in these groups but then we can make out if they're if
they're just running the exact same you know roster in terms of class and
spec composition and who's gonna swapping on to which character and and you
You can add like up to 10 poles on this.
Cool, okay.
Yeah, and so then, and we can do this, you know, once they, their third group goes in,
we can look at the third group, Tika look at who are the mains, what are the item levels
on each character, and at the very top you can see the full item level for each, each
group.
Is up here, yeah.
You have 6.2 to 3.7, okay.
Yeah, so you can actually see the full item level of the group, put out the top
there.
And then yeah, and then this tool, I mean, it's, you can use this for anything.
We could add, we could look at Numerica, Liquid versus Echo Pole.
Sure.
We could add Instant Dollars to see what they're doing in their splits, but.
They're cool, okay.
a lot of people know that you can actually look at the same guilds on different pulls.
Yeah, that drop down menu can see every single pull they've tracked wipes kills everything.
So yeah, and this tool is just on the front page as Kalamazoo showed you just go under
the Raids tab Raid tools roster comparison tool. It's there for everyone to use. Have
fun. It's a and then of course you had a drop down on a player you get their gear
you get their talents you get all the information there. So I'm personally really disappointed
that you you didn't make our graph of nerf was it yeah I was really excited for
that even if I had that doubt it gave me 14 minutes okay we expect more I'm sorry
I was a little bogged down by the snake on my head yeah or do the snakes live in
bogs you live in a bog don't you like a swamp so you're basically Shrek I aim
to be. Okay, one day we'll get there. I'm working on my kids right now. You certainly are an ogre.
Forever alone in the swamp. That's how life goes. That's all I've got for you guys today. Thank you.
I will be back tomorrow with the day before reset, hopefully more mythic kills across the world,
not just North America, and we'll get some more information, more data,
more comparisons to everybody out there. Very cool. All right, well thank you so much
Thank you everyone so much.
And we will be right back.
Come on.
ourselves. Thank you everyone so much and we will be right back.
Pretty comfy, huh?
Isn't it funny that people wonder if T.H.D. is awake or not during raids?
Obviously not.
He's actually micro-dosing naps in his chair.
Sitting on a soft-supported memory foam,
he really makes all the difference, you know?
But he's not just sleeping.
He's somehow optimized recovery for the race.
And the trick is getting the four wheel umber support on this thing just right to keep my posture ready.
So it's not even a nap. It's a cool down. Watch this.
It's so awkward when I'm trying to call comms in the raid and he's asleep.
Like at least recline or something. That's one of the best parts of the chair.
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