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TL vs TH - VCT EMEA 2026 Kickoff - Playoffs - MAP 1

02-12-2026 · 2h 52m

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[00:09:41] One on one, ain't nobody like us
[00:09:44] Got this part by doing me, I'm everything I knew I'd be
[00:09:48] I don't care what we used to be, no
[00:09:50] Yeah, ain't tryna get close to me
[00:09:53] You can't get what you want from me
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[00:09:57] It's easy to see things out on the way up, used to think it's hard now I feel just like a layer, I've been in a jam, yeah I'm trying to get my way up.
[00:10:27] The way it goes, the way it goes, that's just the way it goes
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[00:12:03] So fucking bulldog, every now and then
[00:12:11] Don't make a thing, make one mistake
[00:12:15] Just don't say I don't feel
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[00:13:35] Don't say I'm a loser
[00:13:38] Should've been a stupid song, but I'm a loser
[00:13:42] But to the wise, you said you could move
[00:13:45] Excuse your mouth, should've been a song
[00:13:48] Should've had the party
[00:13:55] You're like a movie scene Makes me forget everything
[00:14:10] Oh, we were just kids Playing like we knew the world
[00:14:16] You got your name in life You give me your reason
[00:14:24] The reason to stay up all night
[00:14:26] Yeah, we were just kids
[00:14:29] Telling that we knew the words
[00:14:33] Don't leave me dry
[00:14:36] I've been waiting for the clock to turn
[00:14:41] Don't leave me dry
[00:14:44] I know we've got a lot to learn
[00:14:49] You like moving pictures
[00:15:22] I sit back, enjoy the show
[00:15:26] Getting lost in the modern view
[00:15:29] Alvin, oh yeah, kick your feet off
[00:15:33] We've got time to lose
[00:15:39] I'll be the one that you'll be flight
[00:15:43] We go to dinner, we never die
[00:15:46] There's no other place I'll ever be with you
[00:15:52] Don't leave me dry, I feel like I've lost it all
[00:16:00] Don't leave me dry, I watch him while the credits wait
[00:16:08] You like more than big chats on the big screen
[00:16:14] You'll get the feel like a 17
[00:16:18] Watch your big chats on the big screen
[00:16:22] Oh, oh, oh
[00:16:24] You like more than big chats on the big screen
[00:16:30] You'll get the feel like a 17
[00:20:34] Like bubbles in the skies
[00:20:36] The first summer in the clouds
[00:20:39] Is my shining night
[00:20:51] Wanna feel the beat of your acoustic
[00:20:55] Cause I'm in this shit for life
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[00:24:19] Right from the moonlight Until the sunrise
[00:24:23] Can't get you out of my mind Can't get you out of my mind
[00:24:27] I, I don't know what you done to me If I'm thinking about you
[00:24:33] about you, are you thinking about me too? Are you falling for a can, no wonder it?
[00:24:40] If i'm thinking about you, are you thinking about me? I, I, I, I've done it,
[00:24:48] because i'm thinking about you, are you thinking about me too? Are you falling for a can, no
[00:24:54] your body knows a sense of victory sees when mind movement and gear ignite as
[00:25:06] one step into your zone designed to win wingman world wall wingman world
[00:25:17] Well what
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[00:25:47] Red Bull gives you wings
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[00:27:18] Feel like from that kid, got no time to spare.
[00:27:21] Come on, don't look at the score, turn the G to four.
[00:27:24] You know I'm with it, I'm gonna win one more.
[00:27:26] On the high street, never gets old.
[00:27:28] Soda with the ace, and my team went gold.
[00:27:31] I am a playin' with time.
[00:27:34] I'm just takin' away.
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[00:27:40] I'm askin' by.
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[00:28:14] I'll give it one more try
[00:28:19] I know why
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[00:28:26] I want it more than my life
[00:28:30] I don't know why
[00:28:33] It feels so right
[00:28:38] I can't play your part
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[00:29:07] Hey, hey, hey
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[00:33:12] Yeah, I'm not gonna argue with that. I do think to make this fair we have to at least put one person in C though
[00:33:20] Because otherwise when we're putting in say that collectively or like you put one in C and I put one in C
[00:33:25] Oh, okay. Like hmm, like are we doing this as a collective? Yeah, I think we do as a collective because I can't I'm struggling to even put one in C
[00:33:33] But I'm gonna I'm gonna do something that when this is inevitably put on social media
[00:33:38] is gonna upset everybody, but Nats based on his normal level is currently playing as a C.
[00:33:45] I agree with that.
[00:33:46] Because he is, if this is all time, he is S tier off the list, we need to make a new tier called Nats.
[00:33:52] Right now, because I think he's having to focus a little bit more on IGL and having to micromanage you players,
[00:33:57] he's playing at C, maybe today he moves up and they win the game.
[00:34:02] Yeah, I think that's best. I think that based on what we've seen from him so far,
[00:34:05] It's not been the kind of expectations that we usually have from a player such as that's the caliber of player that he is
[00:34:11] So I think that's fair. I think next maybe we go all fair in a tier
[00:34:17] I think isn't he like the highest rated fire in like the tournament
[00:34:26] That's someone peer pressure you it's so difficult because like alpha is one of those players where it doesn't matter
[00:34:31] What agent you put him on he's just gonna be insane
[00:34:34] So like if this is Sentinel only
[00:34:37] You still think Esther
[00:34:39] Yeah
[00:34:49] Chronicle I'm putting chronicle in a I think there's more to come. Yeah, I want to see more. Okay, so Benji playing today as well
[00:34:57] The thing is his highs have been so high
[00:35:00] Be for Benji fishy
[00:35:02] Wow. And then we have Karin.
[00:35:04] I'm going to put him in A.
[00:35:06] He's a rookie on the stage. The teams look fantastic.
[00:35:09] The reason they're allowed to get aggressive on one side is because he locks down the other.
[00:35:13] He's also only played Saifah, which I don't think anybody else has been doing.
[00:35:16] Yep.
[00:35:17] I'm putting him in A.
[00:35:18] I think that's fair. I think as well, when you look at the roster when star players,
[00:35:22] that sometimes those kind of anchors get left behind
[00:35:25] because they don't always have the flashy moments,
[00:35:27] but the value and the impact they bring into his team, I agree with that.
[00:35:30] Yeah, let's start things off than the dissecting
[00:35:32] Heretics a little bit further because this is the game that our analysts got to play we have an actual game
[00:35:36] That's gotta be played on stage enough. I think that's a slightly better one
[00:35:39] Yeah, I also think that's just like a bit more important
[00:35:41] You know so heretics is gonna be one of the teams are taking the stage today
[00:35:45] And they are in this low of racket trying to very much
[00:35:48] Make it happen liquid also same thing no strange to this low of racket either
[00:35:52] But it does feel like it's a bit of a different side of a coin for both of these rosters
[00:35:56] Yeah, I think it's really weird because when we actually look at the year that both teams were
[00:36:00] able to have last year, you know, they were in really high highs. And so now you're at
[00:36:04] a point where you're not make one of them isn't going to make the first global event,
[00:36:08] which for team liquid blows my mind because they attended every single global event last
[00:36:12] year. Bear in mind, obviously, it's a different roster this time around. But I just think
[00:36:15] if you're either just looking at this as potentially disappointment, it's going to
[00:36:20] be the worst performance for one of these squads over the last year. Like even when
[00:36:24] heretics didn't make an event, they still finished third. And then you have
[00:36:28] Like, okay, they did finish fifth to sixth at the last one, but they'd already made champs
[00:36:32] because of all the other stuff that had gone on throughout the year in their performances
[00:36:35] at international events.
[00:36:36] So for both of these squads, this is going to be a low, low to start the year.
[00:36:39] I'd give a little bit more of a caveat to Liquid because it is a complete change of
[00:36:44] players.
[00:36:45] Everything has gone completely different how it was last year.
[00:36:48] Heretic's changed one player.
[00:36:49] If you change one player, and that player is comeback coming into your team, you
[00:36:54] should be, to be honest, I had them going through in the upper bracket.
[00:36:57] that they might not even make it to a final. I don't know, maybe some drastic changes will
[00:37:02] have to be made.
[00:37:03] Drastic changes? Yeah, I would like you to explain that a little bit further, because
[00:37:07] I feel like when we're looking at heretically, yes, at the start it was good and then it
[00:37:11] was wonky again, but especially last week the performance that they showed, are you
[00:37:15] not potentially a little convinced that they can do it?
[00:37:19] I think they needed to be consistent in my mind. If they come out today and play
[00:37:22] lightly versus Na'Vi, then yeah, I'm going to start thinking, okay, maybe they
[00:37:26] they can't make that lower bracket run. We've seen Benji talking a lot about
[00:37:29] wicket when we have a last slide. So maybe they look a little bit better when
[00:37:32] it's only singly limb, but I don't know. It's worrying to that point as well,
[00:37:36] though, like a lot of the boys have been saying, you know, like we're getting
[00:37:38] used to come back. We're adapting around him. Like they are taking a little
[00:37:41] bit of synergy and that has been shown kind of in their compositions as
[00:37:44] well in the way in which they've been playing. So like it's definitely been
[00:37:47] a slow burner for them. Um, yeah, I think they just needed a little bit
[00:37:52] of time. Well, at the end of the day, this is low bracket. So time is
[00:37:55] exactly not what they're going to get, unfortunately, but we do get a really cool match up today
[00:37:59] with Liquid against Heretics because we have the Boo Brothers, Mini-Boo going up against
[00:38:02] Boo, which I think is really exciting, and then you're their dad, toilet, like not toilet.
[00:38:06] Brother.
[00:38:07] Yeah, alright.
[00:38:08] I'm pretty sure that that might be in the crowd.
[00:38:10] Oh, that we must have a try.
[00:38:13] The parents of both Boo Brothers are very supportive of both, and I already saw their
[00:38:18] mom tweet about the fact that this is going to be the hardest game she's ever
[00:38:21] had to watch because obviously they've been on the same team.
[00:38:24] They've had very high highs of making it to a champ's final, making it to a master's
[00:38:29] final. All of last year still looking like there were moments they could have taken
[00:38:33] off and an EMEA still performing well, but a change, it seemed like a change was needed
[00:38:38] for Miniboo and for Heretics, and this is what has ended up. It's a very cool
[00:38:42] storyline, but I wonder who's going to take it better in terms of pressure.
[00:38:46] Yeah, also looking at the tweets that we've seen come out from some of these
[00:38:48] peers, we're getting a bit of a feast on social media too in regards to how this
[00:38:53] going to play out Billy. Yeah I think it's nice to see kind of like banter between the two of them as
[00:38:58] well. But I think like Tom mentioned like it's kind of weird having to go up against your brother.
[00:39:03] I'm glad that we get to see it so early on in kickoff because there could have been a chance
[00:39:06] that we didn't get to see it. But I think yeah going and watching that is going to be really
[00:39:11] difficult for either of them obviously they both really want to win I think as well.
[00:39:14] The fact that they've not been able to lift a VCT trophy together is kind of like one of those
[00:39:20] things that they probably wish they would have been able to do before they have to part ways.
[00:39:23] Yeah, sometimes you don't really get what you wish for, which happens at the end of the day.
[00:39:27] We're in the middle part of the story, and then they come back together in the future and they look...
[00:39:31] Oh, so you're someone actually giving me the script ahead of time.
[00:39:35] Good to know. Thanks for the leak. I do appreciate it. We have the script as well.
[00:39:37] It's going to be root against me, Boo, if I am correct. Wish you...
[00:39:42] Boo! Why are you doing...
[00:39:44] Because it should have been Boo. It should have been...
[00:39:46] Like, the funny thing is, as well, from doing content with Boo before,
[00:39:50] He's the more competitive brother
[00:39:52] Mini boo said that he said that I was like how are you not turning up for the skirmish to sit your brother down early on as the big brother?
[00:39:58] Like he wants to do it in the server maybe and he's not gonna be the only one that's gonna be popping off in the server
[00:40:03] Because what we seen last week specifically Billy from the side of heretics was Benji and comeback. Yeah, they've been fine
[00:40:09] Didn't form I think that they were two players that were kind of a bit more critical off at the very start
[00:40:14] And now they're finally getting to the kind of state we expect players like this
[00:40:19] I think it's worth to say
[00:40:21] It's difficult because I feel like with Benji we have had a couple of games back-to-back where I'm like, okay
[00:40:26] This guy's just taken over the server and been incredible with comeback
[00:40:28] It literally is a 50-50 flip of the coin like who you're gonna get and it definitely makes me a little bit more nervous
[00:40:34] So you look at the last game
[00:40:35] I think comeback was plus 20 the game before it was minus 13 there you go
[00:40:39] You see on your screen the ups and downs and I would not invest in that stock because yeah, that is scary
[00:40:45] What stock would you invest in?
[00:40:47] I think it was on Haven versus
[00:40:52] Nabi. He looked like he was the
[00:40:53] best player in the world, but he
[00:40:55] was sliding into angles, Insta
[00:40:56] head showing people walking
[00:40:57] around like it was nothing. If
[00:40:59] he does that today, they will
[00:41:00] win. Yeah, there's no guarantee
[00:41:02] he will. I think that comes
[00:41:03] down to a lot of the agents as
[00:41:04] well. They're right. They kind
[00:41:05] of moved away from the raise,
[00:41:07] which he didn't look so great
[00:41:08] on and kind of has moved back
[00:41:09] into the next few years.
[00:41:10] And I think he's going to
[00:41:11] have a chance to get back
[00:41:12] into the next few years.
[00:41:13] I think he's going to have
[00:41:14] a chance to get back into
[00:41:15] the next few years.
[00:41:16] of has moved back into like the jet, the neon, Waleigh, these kind of agents that we know that he can thrive on.
[00:41:21] I think as well something that the coaches had mentioned in their coach confession last week
[00:41:26] I believe it was was showing that he's not just like you know great on the scope weapons and operator and things like this.
[00:41:32] He is actually a proficient rifler and they want to be able to show that. I say this whilst we're showing scope highlights
[00:41:38] but yeah
[00:41:39] I think it's nice that the coaches recognize that they don't want to just lean on comeback being at solely on the scope weapons.
[00:41:44] Yeah, I think, to your point, they sort of made certain changes on my client, but they bring in a second initiator and just have a little bit more setup for someone like him.
[00:41:53] Oh, okay.
[00:41:54] And then there you go. There is the initiator player supporting their dualists of comeback.
[00:41:58] Respect.
[00:41:59] One of the best in the world. Also got, last week I was lucky enough to watch him play table tennis while we were at the warm up.
[00:42:07] So hopefully they've done the same today because they dominated when they did.
[00:42:11] That's the key.
[00:42:12] I don't know if I want to say
[00:42:14] liquid is on the up. I want to
[00:42:16] say Wayne has kind of found for
[00:42:18] the longer he has been here in
[00:42:19] BC kickoff. But unfortunately,
[00:42:20] he does find himself immediately
[00:42:21] thrown into this lower bracket,
[00:42:22] which when having conversation
[00:42:23] with him last week, Billy, he
[00:42:24] did mention. Okay. I don't like
[00:42:26] the pressure that much. Yeah,
[00:42:28] but let's not forget. He is the
[00:42:30] only rookie that's playing on
[00:42:31] the stage today. So I think
[00:42:33] for him, this is going to be
[00:42:34] a real step up moment to see
[00:42:35] how he does deal with that
[00:42:37] pressure, especially with this
[00:42:38] pressure, especially with this
[00:42:39] pressure, especially with this
[00:42:40] pressure, especially with this
[00:42:41] I think he's been doing well. Yeah
[00:42:45] for sure. I think like as they
[00:42:47] say when it rains it falls like
[00:42:49] when he's got off to these good
[00:42:51] starts, he's been able to sort
[00:42:53] of take over games and. I'm
[00:42:55] hoping we get to see a little bit
[00:42:57] more of that because there were
[00:42:59] a lot of players in the
[00:43:01] conversation of who could have
[00:43:03] been picked up by liquid. I
[00:43:05] think he's been doing well.
[00:43:07] I think he's been doing well.
[00:43:09] of who could have been picked up by Liquid and he was one that kind of came out of the
[00:43:13] blue, he's been getting better and better. If you can keep up that trajectory and they
[00:43:17] have less sort of spent on him, you can start seeing plays like that start to get back to
[00:43:21] level inevitably as well.
[00:43:23] It goes back to the consistency that you mentioned earlier on where you said if I saw a team
[00:43:26] that an individual player showing up more consistently every single week rather than a one-off,
[00:43:31] you would be more convinced.
[00:43:32] Yeah, for sure. Like it's, I have a lot more leeway with someone like Wayne
[00:43:36] because he is so young, new to the region, not even just new to this team, and he didn't
[00:43:42] even come in in the first week, he didn't have that warm-up week where maybe you play
[00:43:45] like a slightly weaker opponent, none of that.
[00:43:47] So he was thrown in at the deep end, and now he's starting to get to the point where
[00:43:52] yeah, you see the best of him, but as I said, this is elimination now, this is
[00:43:55] everything on the line, it might go wrong today.
[00:43:59] Yeah, I mean it's like Tom said, like he is that kind of a referty like Woodwitches.
[00:44:04] that they need I think because they're they're kind of games have been a bit you
[00:44:08] know all over the place it's been a bit muddy at the games and so yeah I think
[00:44:12] Wayne being that consistent performer is great for them. Yeah well six teams
[00:44:15] remain here and Vincentee kick off the MEA with only three spots up for grabs
[00:44:19] from Masters Santiago and today either Heretics or Liquid will only get one
[00:44:24] step closer.
[00:44:34] It's not gonna be just so easy
[00:44:37] Trust in the dark and make me fall
[00:44:40] Just wish us in the past would maybe leave
[00:44:44] You can't leave, you gotta keep from fallin'
[00:44:48] Ten perverts
[00:44:49] Keep fallin'
[00:44:51] Keep on riskin'
[00:44:52] Don't wanna hurt you
[00:44:54] Keep fallin'
[00:44:56] Just keep burnin'
[00:44:58] Open your eyes and let it out
[00:45:34] the last two teams. All right,
[00:45:44] this is the last bands for both
[00:45:46] of these teams here in BC and
[00:45:47] the A kickoff as one will advance
[00:45:48] further into this lower bracket,
[00:45:49] making that lower bracket run
[00:45:50] possible. And the other
[00:45:52] unfortunately will sit things
[00:45:54] out until state on that's a lot
[00:45:55] of pressure on both of them. Yeah,
[00:45:56] and I think it's crazy because
[00:45:57] when you think of the last
[00:45:58] time that these two teams
[00:45:59] played it was both in lower
[00:46:00] brackets. The only time that
[00:46:03] for Team Liquid.
[00:46:05] Yeah, I feel like there is one of those vetoes
[00:46:07] where we're going to go into it soon,
[00:46:09] and you'll have both teams banning their power ban anyway.
[00:46:12] So I feel like the side, obviously,
[00:46:14] you want to win for the flex.
[00:46:16] We're giving away the scrubs.
[00:46:17] You want the flex of like, oh, yeah, I beat you,
[00:46:19] and we go into the game.
[00:46:20] But ultimately, I think they know what's coming.
[00:46:23] Ultimately, also last week, we had this statistic
[00:46:26] where every team that won the skirmish,
[00:46:28] 45% of them then ended up winning their game.
[00:46:31] So the skirmish curse potentially could be true
[00:46:34] So if you win the skirmish you lose the game. Oh, you lose the game that's why they're sending the line on fanatic, right?
[00:46:47] That's crazy always going and expected the winners
[00:46:51] What I've heard is been warming up for these skirmishes and getting the progen.
[00:46:56] I was going to say me.
[00:46:59] Okay, but we're looking at heretics, so they actually go for their second pick order.
[00:47:03] And when it comes to map veto, I'm looking forward to see how that's going to play out.
[00:47:07] Abyss, Bide and Breeze.
[00:47:09] Ladies and gentlemen, what do you mean Abyss first map?
[00:47:13] Yeah, I mean, I think just to speak about the bands quickly, Team Liquid's taken heretics probably best and favourite map that they've been playing throughout kickoff so far.
[00:47:20] I think it's like easy to counteract no, I despise their
[00:47:24] power composition, but a best for us. Let's speak about a
[00:47:28] best, right? Both teams have lost this map 13 and 2.
[00:47:32] Yeah, lost isn't understood. Both teams got battered on this
[00:47:36] map. I will say I'm going to give credit for liquidware.
[00:47:40] It's due all of last year. I'm going to give credit for
[00:47:44] liquidware. I'm going to give credit for liquidware.
[00:47:48] I think they were very good at coming in and countering opponents, so the problem I have is you're countering a team that already lost 13-2, the countering is done, and you know that they're now going to change, surely they're going to have to make adaptations.
[00:48:01] I also am a little bit scared because even though it was a very bad map for Heretic, it is the map at least where comeback was playing Jett, and I feel like with the sort of rise to form he's had individually over the last couple of weeks, I don't want to play him first going in a bit cold on Jett.
[00:48:16] I'm hoping that means that we're
[00:48:19] going to see a composition
[00:48:20] change come through from
[00:48:21] similar good because. I've not
[00:48:23] been a big fan of the
[00:48:24] composition that they've been
[00:48:25] playing out. I think that
[00:48:26] they've definitely replicated a
[00:48:28] lot of the kind of things that
[00:48:29] they did last year, which is
[00:48:30] understandable when you're
[00:48:31] bringing in a new roster and
[00:48:33] you know, trying to get that
[00:48:34] cohesion up, but it's not
[00:48:35] really been new ideas and I
[00:48:36] need to see something new and
[00:48:37] excited to get about. Yeah,
[00:48:39] one thing that we're not
[00:48:40] seeing that's not due is the
[00:48:41] razor chairs that the players
[00:48:43] are very confident. And I
[00:48:44] are very comfy in. And then we're also going to see the second map of the series, which will be
[00:48:48] Bind that we've also seen specifically from Liquid as well as Heretics. And for Heretics has been
[00:48:54] mixed results. Yeah, for Heretics to make these results, but to jump onto the Team Liquid point
[00:48:58] that I was kind of just getting across there, again, another map where it's like they've only
[00:49:01] really changed one agent from things that they done last year. So I think for Team Heretics,
[00:49:05] there's going to be a lot of prep coming into that because there's so much footage on it.
[00:49:10] I think for Team Heretics though, when I'm thinking about Bind, they switched compositions
[00:49:13] last time that we saw them play it. They were playing a double duelist initially and then they'd
[00:49:17] switch to a double initiator which seemed to work out a lot better for them. They did only be
[00:49:21] off and I know off got better as they went along but that was still early stage off where they
[00:49:26] were almost just trying to frag out and it was a I think that was it was that the map where
[00:49:29] there was like a streak of seven rounds in a row for off and I was sort of sat there
[00:49:33] eyes lightning like they're actually going to lose this game so I'm not particularly confident
[00:49:37] in that pick. I thought maybe they'd go for the corrodes just because liquid have been
[00:49:41] a little bit worse for where on that map. I also thought Bind might end up as the third map.
[00:49:45] I didn't think we'd have Breeze go all the way through, but I guess just again the confident victory
[00:49:51] they had versus Navi, even though it was a Navi that they absolutely dumpstered. That was enough
[00:49:55] to go off against one of the strongest maps. I would say like if you're coming in with a surprise
[00:49:59] at this pick, you go into Bind, which I actually think could end up pretty level, and then
[00:50:03] Breeze, I think Liquid have got about as good of Eto as they could hope for, but I'm still
[00:50:08] still not confident in any of the three maps.
[00:50:10] That's in the scary situation to be in if you are a Liquid fan.
[00:50:14] You're saying that when it comes to the map,
[00:50:16] because specifically for Liquid,
[00:50:17] it's looking a bit more favorable for heretics then.
[00:50:20] In Abyss, for them also, they didn't look good against KC at all.
[00:50:23] It's literally the same score line for both of these teams.
[00:50:26] Are we worried by any chance that they might be
[00:50:30] or not be expecting anything new from Liquid?
[00:50:31] Because Liquid has been playing the same agents
[00:50:34] for such a long time.
[00:50:35] I think if you're heretics, you probably do expect to change from team liquid when I think of like the coaches and that's last year during kickoff
[00:50:43] They were literally changing compositions throughout the event even in that lower bracket final against team heretics
[00:50:49] I think back to the Lotus last year. They pulled out arena for God's sake like it's there
[00:50:54] No strangers to changing compositions throughout an event, especially something as you know
[00:50:58] Unpredictable as kickoff. I I would say the the fact that this has been picked by liquid
[00:51:03] you're going to expect changes, but I'll be honest, I don't think heretics will have expected
[00:51:07] to see this map at all. I think this had second stage ban written all over it for both themes,
[00:51:12] and then when it was picked, I wonder if the heretics side just went, oh, God, we're going
[00:51:16] to have to play that again. But I feel like we're going to have Liquid changing something
[00:51:20] because, well, Mini's not here, but he loves hating on breach. It's not really been
[00:51:25] working out, and they got batted on their attack side, which is where you kind of
[00:51:28] expect the setup to actually be pretty good. It wasn't. So I think that in this
[00:51:33] first map, Liquid have to have their edge, but going in, if they are going to change
[00:51:37] things and having a load of new stuff and trying to run it versus a fairly
[00:51:41] simplistic comp, one that is more based off feeling and sort of the mid-round
[00:51:46] calling with that you've got those comfort agents for the side of
[00:51:48] heretics. I don't know if that's necessarily a brilliant idea, but I do
[00:51:51] understand when you look at the map where you go, okay, let's make them
[00:51:55] uncomfortable to see if we can beat them that way.
[00:51:57] Yeah, also something from liquid specifically when it comes to them not changing anything
[00:52:01] We've heard low had mentioned a couple times where it's like we found our identity you want to stick to what we're comfortable with
[00:52:06] We want to build on that a little bit further
[00:52:07] So maybe liquid doesn't necessarily feel the need to make any changes even though they find themselves in this position
[00:52:12] It lost to 30. I want to see I will be very
[00:52:17] Frustrated if I don't see changes from team liquid for them to you know pick into this abyss map
[00:52:22] They've obviously not played it since that loss against Casey. I'll be frustrated if they don't make changes
[00:52:26] I don't want to see that title breach calm. I think they are in the ideal spot to run that way like yorra calm
[00:52:32] Like they've got to two different people could also play dualist alongside mini boo
[00:52:37] Which ever one you want him to play like he's been doing quite well on the way
[00:52:41] Like I would like to see that maybe you throw a camo in honor yorra. No, I don't see that
[00:52:45] Anything but that in fact
[00:52:47] Do you want to see from that?
[00:52:52] Either stick him on the side for having one of an astra
[00:52:54] I was going to say Cypher I think is fine here, especially if they're running the W.
[00:52:57] And Astra, even though when we're seeing Wayne go on the Omen instead of them picking the Astra?
[00:53:02] You can have double controller. In this current meta, I think especially we even saw Brimstone coming out for Midi on this map.
[00:53:08] It's a map where having that delay on the defensive side is so valuable and also the added smokes on your attack is fantastic.
[00:53:14] I also think Astra is just really, really strong and I think Nat is slightly better equipped to do it because of all of that additional utility.
[00:53:21] the game. Yeah, this is kind
[00:53:24] of discussion that we're having
[00:53:25] in regards to the compositions
[00:53:26] from liquid not really
[00:53:27] changing. They've been playing
[00:53:29] the same agents. And I guess
[00:53:30] today at least when it comes to
[00:53:32] buying Billy, we can maybe
[00:53:33] expect the same thing. Yeah,
[00:53:35] potentially I think what I had
[00:53:37] meant by this is that a lot of
[00:53:39] the compositions that they
[00:53:40] have run this year. I'm
[00:53:41] speaking about the bind and
[00:53:42] split here was kind of similar
[00:53:44] to the compositions that they
[00:53:45] run last year is kind of
[00:53:46] already explained it so far
[00:53:49] about that. But I guess with
[00:53:50] that they're not going to be
[00:53:52] able to build up that
[00:53:53] cohesion. Maybe don't want to
[00:53:54] do anything too crazy just yet.
[00:53:56] But yeah, I think that it's
[00:53:57] very easy to be able to
[00:53:58] prepare against this because
[00:53:59] they're not really switching
[00:54:00] away from the identity that
[00:54:01] they had last year. Yeah for
[00:54:04] heretics, then I guess in
[00:54:05] regards to their compositions,
[00:54:06] we have been seeing changes.
[00:54:07] We've been seeing them also
[00:54:08] get a lot more comfortable
[00:54:09] when it comes to how they
[00:54:10] are on the server as well
[00:54:12] for that composition, then
[00:54:14] what are our expectations in
[00:54:15] regards to any changes
[00:54:16] there? Do we think they're
[00:54:17] going to stick with what
[00:54:18] was not working for them
[00:54:19] I don't think they change honestly. I don't think carrot exchange.
[00:54:22] Again, I would be surprised. Maybe they've worked on something just in general.
[00:54:26] They're making a lot of bracket run. I think for this series, I don't think they would have gone in expecting Abyss to be the first pick in the pool.
[00:54:33] And I think as well, like I said, you're going in with Wuton Keio, Rian Sova, Wunastra, Benji Seifer, and then Giot on comeback.
[00:54:40] These are like more comfortable picks. I don't think they'll change anything.
[00:54:44] Yeah, well, we can sit here and see your craft a lot longer in terms of Asian compositions,
[00:54:49] but fortunately for you, you're going to have to hear it no longer because instead,
[00:54:53] we're going to be telling it to our cast, those pansy and high-bot who can let us know what they want to see.
[00:55:01] Yeah, brand new start to things, I guess, not theory-crafting this one out, Michael.
[00:55:06] A little surprised, if anything, but I think rather than kind of starting on the agents and kind of the crafting the desk was doing,
[00:55:12] I mean, it's just, yeah, you
[00:55:14] definitely hope so. Obviously
[00:55:16] both teams going through the
[00:55:18] trial by the way. We can kind of
[00:55:20] more discuss the map itself and
[00:55:21] kind of where we stand with these
[00:55:23] two teams because I think coming
[00:55:24] into a piss obviously both teams
[00:55:26] having. Less than ideal results
[00:55:28] as of late. I think all of us
[00:55:29] remembering that, you know,
[00:55:30] barely walking away with more
[00:55:32] than two rounds here in their
[00:55:33] desk and talking about it. Um.
[00:55:36] In my mind, I worry when I
[00:55:37] see a bit so I see them come
[00:55:39] back this surely they fixed
[00:55:41] teams going through the trial by fire obviously playing versus KC and getting
[00:55:47] demolished right so obviously as we do take a look here at the edge of things
[00:55:50] okay Benji that's a big game potentially potentially there's certainly
[00:55:58] an obvious way we've seen some play time here over on the liquid side obviously
[00:56:02] we're gonna see MiniBoo on the waylay and Camo on the Yoru so MiniBoo had a
[00:56:06] shocker on this map previous yes I want to see him in a really good form
[00:56:09] Obviously facing up against, you know, brother on the other side, X team, there's a time to turn up.
[00:56:14] There's lots to die, yes, especially him, and it was really interesting to have a chat with him.
[00:56:18] And the way that he views the series in terms of not necessarily like, hey, wanted to beat Boo,
[00:56:23] it's more, hey, the win matters. It's not this redemption sort of matchup for him.
[00:56:28] So certainly where my eyes go towards, as you potentially see Liquid set on this composition,
[00:56:33] maybe with that slipping up to the side for each time.
[00:56:36] Billy touched on on the desk and I'm all four integrals to you, it's a cover role, and we've seen some instances here at kickoff where he's not necessarily put out the numbers historically we've been used to.
[00:56:47] And I think we had in a couple of interviews the kind of discussion around the fact that you know he's had to be a little bit more of an in-game leader again, a little bit more present in the rounds, a little bit focused back on that in-game leadership midway through, maybe losing out on some of the players that could do that mid-rounding and now catching everyone up to speed to just more back on his plate.
[00:57:05] Again, role-wise, I actually quite like that thing.
[00:57:07] Focus-wise, I've got heretics to make a, what, feels like a big change.
[00:57:10] And Benji's obviously been a discussion around finding his footing within this role
[00:57:13] and maybe being a little hot and cold whilst we're on a hot trend for Benji.
[00:57:18] This is certainly what I'm looking out for here on map one.
[00:57:20] The only issue, the only fear, the only worry for me is confidence.
[00:57:24] How many times do we hear from the coaching staff when it comes to heretics?
[00:57:27] Where's the confidence? They're not playing with it.
[00:57:29] Drink every time.
[00:57:30] Yes.
[00:57:30] Drink every time we play our own game.
[00:57:32] Whatever game and confidence.
[00:57:34] But Benjana, new agent does add a little bit of freedom to really...
[00:57:39] Well, I was about to say make a name for himself, but again, but...
[00:57:43] Yeah, it's... I feel like this could be either a really good solution or it could compound problems.
[00:57:49] But I guess you kind of got to do it now or never, right?
[00:57:52] This is last chance corral for this sort of thing, so kind of have to turn up.
[00:57:57] Yeah. The fact that...
[00:57:59] Obviously we'll be starting here on a base like I said with both teams falling to KC in quite drastic fashion. Oh, yeah
[00:58:08] Oh, yes, we're certainly looking for massive improvements on both sides wouldn't want to see this go
[00:58:12] One way or the other with a similar score line for sure
[00:58:16] Lots to look out for here and interesting enough with the Wayne we were discussing this towards the back end of last week
[00:58:21] One for me. That's I mean starting to hit his side it feels like super excited prospect
[00:58:26] But obviously early on, I mean, what was it?
[00:58:28] Week one matchup, we didn't see him due to whatever issues.
[00:58:31] And I think probably has been on a very steady upward trend.
[00:58:35] We should relieve some of the issues in game in terms
[00:58:37] of that reliance on Nats to really micromanage
[00:58:39] some of these rounds and heavily focus
[00:58:41] on mid-roundy decisions.
[00:58:43] Certainly for me, Wayne is one that probably brings
[00:58:46] the team into a little more of a persistent state.
[00:58:49] Look, he's got his headphones all messed up.
[00:58:51] Yeah, that's talking about it.
[00:58:52] Come on.
[00:58:53] Oh, there!
[00:58:55] I'm still sorted out. He's got to be ready for this on New Agents and everything. This is scary times, but even under that sort of conversation, if we lead into it, like for me, Wayne's well as prospectually you see the potential, but you're waiting to see it come through more consistently, how much it takes away from having Nat's shouldering so much.
[00:59:12] But also, if we were kind of talking about some of the plays
[00:59:14] you've had up swings too, like we saw Ben Jobsy,
[00:59:16] but combat has started to really hit his stride,
[00:59:19] it felt a bit more agent specific.
[00:59:21] And I'm kind of curious now how it lands.
[00:59:24] Does he continue to find favor here?
[00:59:26] It's going to be on the Yoru this time.
[00:59:28] So how does that sit with you?
[00:59:30] Yeah, I mean, it's a bit some bobs.
[00:59:32] It's funny actually, because I was thinking about our discussion,
[00:59:34] of what we were watching come back on CRODE.
[00:59:36] Yeah.
[00:59:36] And talking about, yeah, we're not necessarily seeing the numbers,
[00:59:38] not as explosive, but there were just so many situations
[00:59:41] where you put any duelist in that role.
[00:59:44] Yeah, players that have done it on this stage for years
[00:59:47] would have struggled there.
[00:59:48] So I wouldn't say necessarily unfair criticism.
[00:59:50] I think with such a high profile move here
[00:59:52] and questions around the move itself
[00:59:55] would be a mini boot to come out.
[00:59:56] Arguably, even though inconsistent big shoes
[00:59:58] to fill within this roster in terms of the journey,
[01:00:01] turbulent journey they put along.
[01:00:03] For me, come back still taking some of the boxes
[01:00:05] that I don't see a kickoff at least.
[01:00:07] Yeah, I think so.
[01:00:08] And kind of, again, if I'm not mistaken,
[01:00:10] Pretty sure he was on the jet up against Casey.
[01:00:12] Yeah, yeah.
[01:00:12] So again, went 4-14.
[01:00:14] He didn't have a great game either.
[01:00:15] The numbers didn't look good.
[01:00:17] There's that.
[01:00:18] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:00:19] Spade to spade.
[01:00:20] Yeah, so it's like for me, I'd like to see how well he fares in this.
[01:00:23] Luckily, that's enough from us.
[01:00:24] It is time to look into map one properly.
[01:00:28] Team Liquid up against Heretics.
[01:00:32] Bound by blood here in this battle between the two.
[01:00:35] A lot to be fighting over as well.
[01:00:37] The chance to stay alive.
[01:00:39] life. Yeah which is that I mean if we come back to the same
[01:00:41] fact it's been turbulent here a kickoff it's been upside down in terms of looking
[01:00:46] at the bracket the names we see here but liquid and heretics to face off.
[01:00:51] Pacey start here for who actually no secrets about this on the way out
[01:00:55] Perpo gonna respect the space initially.
[01:00:59] Heretics looking to scale very quickly towards A. And if this is a pacey
[01:01:02] a look coming out from heretics even if it's just setting the tone into
[01:01:05] the first go of things I'm kind of down for it right let's see if they
[01:01:08] they can set a tempo, send a message early.
[01:01:11] Purple, good info here.
[01:01:12] They should tee up those three through middle.
[01:01:14] There's the distraction, but Benji divides and conquers.
[01:01:18] Two quick kills.
[01:01:19] I thought they were on for some success there.
[01:01:22] But now down to Purple, and that's what he meant to do.
[01:01:24] Try and walk back into the site.
[01:01:25] Try and take on four players on your own.
[01:01:28] It's not going to happen.
[01:01:30] Heritage, what a start.
[01:01:31] Yeah, pepping the step in first round at least here.
[01:01:34] I have sort of, I do all the way.
[01:01:35] Let's see if that's a trend to follow.
[01:01:38] Again, I think probably the biggest criticism really for heretics in terms of the big consistency
[01:01:42] is around their inability to really make quick decision about quick, smart decisions, right?
[01:01:48] And have these kind of all bases are covered, nothing left up to chance here.
[01:01:52] Again, we even saw some instances of very rehearsed choreographed pistol rounds last week.
[01:01:57] So it's certainly something they've been preparing.
[01:01:59] Yeah, that's spacing to me from Lickwin then.
[01:02:02] Just felt like they had a plan in mind with me who was just trying to break the kind of line of sight, I guess, or kind of a holler.
[01:02:07] Let's come back, get in, now we're going to catch him, off the map we go.
[01:02:13] If you didn't catch him the first time we have seen brothers face off in VCT here.
[01:02:18] We'll see Mini-Boot, well, brothers alongside the rest of the roster as well, but Boo specifically,
[01:02:24] Tarotix off to a comfortable 2-0 star here.
[01:02:28] Gripping replay.
[01:02:31] And he's worked on that one there.
[01:02:34] Just in case we missed the kill feed but out of the way. Yep.
[01:02:39] Into the bonus and the bonus is looking pretty healthy. You've got Benji sitting on the absolute heater so far, looking good, sharp, confident.
[01:02:47] Get the blood pumping early, Rien's also going to be on the rifle as well. Everyone else just going to try and supplement that with what they can.
[01:02:54] Hmm, can't move.
[01:02:55] We ought to turn the flash here.
[01:02:57] And gets away with the first.
[01:02:58] A little lazy on the clear, maybe hoping for the best,
[01:03:00] but now expecting the worst.
[01:03:02] Down to a 4v3, Benji Boo and Woon need to make this work.
[01:03:06] That's a shot.
[01:03:07] Benji do it again!
[01:03:09] If this is a return to form from this man,
[01:03:12] I think we're all on board for it.
[01:03:14] And Purple and that's the last two who
[01:03:16] were left alive before.
[01:03:17] Similar scenario.
[01:03:18] Left scrambling after Liquid being the one
[01:03:21] to try and be decisive. Benji now. Three for the time being. Can he find a fourth there
[01:03:28] to close out this round? Able to slip away. Initially looking pretty comfortable already
[01:03:33] in some of these rounds. That's exactly what I was going to look at, is how confident he
[01:03:37] feels, how up all that utility is. I think the barrel will show on this angle potentially.
[01:03:41] Yeah, that's a spot there. Yeah, that's going to be a bit of a catch-up there. Now
[01:03:45] Gonna find a form, hold on Boo, with an all or two and a 1v1 here.
[01:03:49] Oh my good god, Boo, easy tiger, that was a bit of a wide swing, but he's not got half yet.
[01:03:54] Boo's got time, but Perpo's been clean with it as well and time sign has rinned up
[01:03:59] and Perpo being played with halfs achieved, but time is there. Boo's done it!
[01:04:05] Gotta say it, Mike, a Red Bull clutch, yes, but Benji having big impact.
[01:04:10] Liquid full victim, but this is the start you wanna see from Heretic's
[01:04:14] starting to hit their stride
[01:04:17] in terms of the overall approach here
[01:04:18] and this is like, this is Liquid on the offensive
[01:04:20] I mean, two openers here
[01:04:22] Huge work
[01:04:23] Benji, able to just swing the pendulum back
[01:04:26] in Heretic's favor
[01:04:27] Beautiful bait and switch here
[01:04:29] Oh, I feel like we haven't seen that in so long, right?
[01:04:32] There's nice surgery between the two of them
[01:04:34] Booyah, Booyah, Booyah, Booyah, Booyah, Booyah
[01:04:36] Take that line away for them
[01:04:37] Benji on the swing
[01:04:39] That's very, very nice to see
[01:04:40] and it's broken the purchase from Liquid now, right?
[01:04:42] sheriffs, Marshall, that's all she wrote.
[01:04:48] Benji again on the hunt.
[01:04:51] A couple of numbers of liquid stacked up here towards mid at least.
[01:04:56] Camo will be spotted by comeback as well.
[01:05:02] Heretics not scrambling to make a decision here.
[01:05:03] Benji will take a tag in mid at least.
[01:05:07] Heretics now looking to
[01:05:09] We group outside B, and Camo was spotted early. Probably identifying that's going to be the weaker side, but already...
[01:05:19] Good rotation.
[01:05:20] Yeah, pretty heavy rotation. There's four members of Liquid here.
[01:05:23] Let's see how well they can clear this, right?
[01:05:25] Oh my good lord.
[01:05:27] Okay, and that's an awful route.
[01:05:30] Actually, it comes out okay for now. Good trade from Camo.
[01:05:32] You're looking at it. Maybe Liquid could get a couple more as Camo.
[01:05:36] Oh, a lot of shots!
[01:05:38] Camo with three miraculous skills!
[01:05:41] Maybe... Oh!
[01:05:43] Give me five! Give me five!
[01:05:46] Camo...
[01:05:48] Yeah, but he's obviously looking for Nats.
[01:05:50] Just conscious he's maybe slipped through the map elsewhere.
[01:05:54] Still 25 seconds left to work with, so...
[01:05:56] But who has an opportunity?
[01:05:58] Oh my god, but Camo, if you do this, that would be so goddamn sick.
[01:06:04] Spike is on the site
[01:06:06] With 13 seconds he's got to work towards it
[01:06:08] On instantaneous camo knows he's closing in this could be
[01:06:18] When it felt like the traits were great initially on the side, yeah, I'll be interested to know how many
[01:06:23] Members of heretics were caught on that team fast as you can see what I'm actually even camo for a response. I'm not sure
[01:06:28] What happened?
[01:06:30] Again, the stun comes through here.
[01:06:32] Can I just allow to...
[01:06:35] continue doing damage here?
[01:06:39] That's actually nasty.
[01:06:40] Someone who's personally intends of being flexible once more
[01:06:46] and really shining on the Yoru here.
[01:06:50] I'm not necessarily a bailout, but the response found here
[01:06:53] are much less a purchase to put Liquid back in a position where
[01:06:56] Yeah, they can, potentially.
[01:07:01] Wait, the bank of Heretic's not just looking in the money there.
[01:07:06] Yeah, hold on, Miniboo's on a glass cannon.
[01:07:08] Two on the other side. Heretic's were lazy on the clear before.
[01:07:11] Now I've got to be ready.
[01:07:13] Spotted both.
[01:07:15] No swagers yet.
[01:07:17] Heretic's trying to work the map a little bit, right?
[01:07:20] But man, if we get a heater from a couple of players, this could be a sick series.
[01:07:24] Anyboot trying to slice the pie, loses, come back.
[01:07:28] Posted on that angle and he held that for a long time.
[01:07:34] There's necessarily force, any sort of adjustment here, but...
[01:07:38] Advantage for heretics.
[01:07:41] Camo's on the hunt though. Look how aggressively he's playing here.
[01:07:45] I guess if you're feeling that confidence, just go for it, right?
[01:07:47] You let off the leash a little bit, play your game.
[01:07:49] I don't mind that. That to me, perfectly reasonable shout.
[01:07:52] out sometimes you got to call up your own number they are still working with four
[01:07:57] here for liquid Benji that all more middle tip of the spear stuff
[01:08:03] essentially purple on the other side any camo potentially as a bit of a pinch
[01:08:08] right three to split towards B site wrapping in and they seem otherwise
[01:08:11] around middle finally a little bit of attention drawn when it's gonna be
[01:08:14] purple check it but by now they're at the door this is a problem Benji just
[01:08:18] goes in there running them down man that's over one heretics figuring it out like that was a lovely
[01:08:25] split yeah all pedal no stick really on the way in able to get the plant plenty of time
[01:08:31] for waiting to try and hold on to this operator straight fire oh nothing to do here man that is
[01:08:40] that's one to remember for heretics as well though that's something to keep that confidence in
[01:08:43] the mind pull up a great three two split apparently great read the norms what you mean
[01:08:47] Yeah, this is the sort of round that you want to see heretics come to where right where it doesn't it gets a little chaotic, right?
[01:08:52] It's it's not necessarily like I said, there's there's no set exo care. It's kind of hey, let's contact in when the moment comes
[01:08:59] We're we're inside. Yeah, I should probably they got so far without anyone kind of I mean, we saw purple dropping
[01:09:05] I don't know if there was maybe some utility in middle what got cleared early
[01:09:09] Just forgot about consideration of even the possibility about yeah
[01:09:12] If that's the part that surprised me a touch, but which was what liquid really struggled with versus KC in particular
[01:09:18] Yeah, the heretics is a little more difficult to really diagnose, but it was the the pacing
[01:09:26] In some of the mid rounds that liquid just looked absolutely
[01:09:33] Beautiful take to close out a fourth here
[01:09:42] Hmm. Yeah, if heretics are the second, say six seconds.
[01:09:50] No, that's not my score. No, true.
[01:09:53] Purchase in shambles, Camo.
[01:09:57] Well, yeah, after Camo, better than that, with an ace on the previous.
[01:10:00] What, just sheriffs?
[01:10:02] Now they're back down to just the operator maintained for Miniboot
[01:10:06] and a rifle in hand for Camo.
[01:10:08] They put a lot to work in the middle, but the boss is here.
[01:10:11] does get for good trade very nice maybe a little bit hesitant to recover that
[01:10:16] rifle but it is possible they probably should go get that sights not yours
[01:10:20] anymore you don't necessarily have an opportunity to recover before the spike
[01:10:26] is planted that's deep in the back lines now three through CT one back through
[01:10:36] kind of vent side and it looks like heritage for the folks towards that
[01:10:39] CT but there's a very individual effort from comeback there. No one else really
[01:10:42] able to scale off it but now we're over the top. Spins around, Rienz picks up the
[01:10:45] mantle, nice shot towards CT, where's Nats? Unable to get involved, really bit of a
[01:10:49] difference there. And Perpo is on for an opportunity, but no shield, right? This is this
[01:10:53] rough for him and Nats. There was no real opportunity to play in it felt like
[01:10:57] that split maybe just a little bit out of sorts with a divide in play cut off
[01:11:02] that line of sight couldn't quite create those nice crossfires and crunch
[01:11:05] through so heretics they are looking great today Mike a lot of the woes and
[01:11:11] worries we've had seemingly addressed it and I'm feeling there might be a time
[01:11:16] out from liquid pretty yeah it's gonna be now but in my mind if this is
[01:11:21] something that's given a little bit more figure right a little bit more life I
[01:11:25] just I saw the stage color change for a second then I saw it I'm sorry but
[01:11:30] it's fine it's gone back to normal. That's the man I want to talk about actually Benji in this instance
[01:11:37] if being on the new agent here you're playing on to Vito being a little bit more heavily involved on
[01:11:42] sometimes the front lines that second man in kind of working off of wood breaking that kind of hold
[01:11:47] on this one of those discusses is like hey yeah I'm going to play it but also I'm just going
[01:11:51] to go forwards and shoot people in the face so it's looking really good now in terms of who
[01:11:56] come. But I'm with you for me. It comes back to that same discussion around where we've
[01:12:00] seen Benji really struggle. And it hasn't necessarily, I mean, the second side to that
[01:12:05] conversation is what the heretics do from a composition standpoint in terms of question
[01:12:11] marks around double dual list. And they come back in here, where's, you know, what are
[01:12:16] the picks we're going to see for Benji to be the one to pick up something new and
[01:12:19] still be, like I said, on this upwards trend is just fantastic to see.
[01:12:25] very exciting because again if you roll your mind back to when Heretics were in
[01:12:28] probably the heyday of their form how many rounds was Benji clutching up from
[01:12:31] how much impact did this man have he was a mainstay in conversation obviously a
[01:12:35] downturn and the agent itself had downturned you know we didn't see
[01:12:38] Cypher anywhere near as much which was his as said his bread and butter if we
[01:12:42] find a bit more of that fantastic I don't think we're seeing the composition
[01:12:45] be excellent but it's only the players playing it right now that are showing
[01:12:48] that they have some of heretics just play way better than what we've seen
[01:12:51] previously. Again from liquid standpoint it's in terms of prep, you pick a
[01:12:57] miss and you almost get the Uno reverse in terms of how you want to play the map.
[01:13:02] Again there's lots of learnings in these early rounds unfortunately it stays
[01:13:08] at this sort of deficit it's gonna be difficult for liquid to find a way
[01:13:14] back into this first map.
[01:13:19] Camo curious once more, at least trying to posture up.
[01:13:22] A bit of an adjustment here for heretics to address that earlier aggression.
[01:13:27] But Benji once more.
[01:13:29] On the hunt, can't avoid the drone so we'll be revealed.
[01:13:33] Again, I do want to see how he fits into this maybe on the defending side, it's fine
[01:13:39] because we felt like I think when we watched 7 on the veto it was a little bit one
[01:13:42] dimensional towards the end, but he had a great start of things, but then finding it
[01:13:46] a little bit harder to adapt deeper into it. But it works now. All good. But played very
[01:13:52] differently, it feels like. Very active, very aggressive, very first man forward, second
[01:13:57] man forward, working with Wu in synergy. This time harder to gap close on that. Couldn't
[01:14:01] quite get down towards Purple, but certainly going to see him. Now they also going to
[01:14:04] come layering on top. Purple going hunting back in, rotations coming through. Great
[01:14:08] Isolation from purple and they clear through middle
[01:14:11] So we can see the site here the spark hasn't made it across yet in the hands of boot
[01:14:17] Camo
[01:14:18] Actively searching back through is gonna spot other people and if it's work off it though
[01:14:22] If you try to get involved, but it's better to go down
[01:14:25] Careful on those jumps there boys it gets a little bit dangerous
[01:14:28] And now the clear out comes in boo and re-ends the last two alive
[01:14:31] Maybe we could actually have boost on wow
[01:14:33] Now wait to close out. Finally. Liquid getting a bit of a grip onto this one.
[01:14:39] They start to retort his tendencies as how they want to approach this with Benji
[01:14:43] playing with Wooks in middle.
[01:14:45] Looking way more composed. It's almost there when you're expecting kind of a very volatile
[01:14:49] response to this site.
[01:14:52] Being firmly under control of heretics.
[01:14:55] Actually, Liquid totally lied, man.
[01:14:58] They're able to slug things down and systematically break through this post-plan.
[01:15:02] NICE! Let's go! Let's go!
[01:15:04] Quite like maybe kind of subverting the expectations there, Benji kind of showing in middle
[01:15:09] with, we're pressuring in towards potentially Perpo, whoever's kind of playing towards Heaven, as we saw before
[01:15:14] and then taking the TP out, right? Getting back to the pack playing for 4-1 split, I wouldn't have minded that.
[01:15:18] Obviously liquid though, seeming to handle it exceptionally well, but
[01:15:21] theory doesn't seem bad from here, it takes for just maybe messed up the landing a touch.
[01:15:25] Now at this point,
[01:15:26] Little bit of a glance towards the A side but...
[01:15:32] How much commitment so far?
[01:15:35] Come back just one point away.
[01:15:40] Still, liquid costume here and actually rain will be spotted.
[01:15:44] Paranoia completely mitigated here.
[01:15:48] It looked like liquid were almost set up to go very aggressive there.
[01:15:52] Almost a set piece but...
[01:15:54] You see the position now that Perpo has to play in these sorts of rounds.
[01:15:58] But this causes real issues for rotation though, right?
[01:16:01] Like, to be fair, luckily for Liquid they have the three on the right side of the map so far.
[01:16:05] Benji just going to be a nuisance in mid.
[01:16:07] But it keeps those two pretty far off.
[01:16:09] So if they can win the 4v3 on the site, quite a bad position.
[01:16:13] Let's see, Mini Booth.
[01:16:15] Timing's going to be right. That is very good.
[01:16:17] Actually having to cancel on that go up.
[01:16:19] Now they need to hold off for a second longer.
[01:16:21] Rien's going to find nothing, but they've been stalled out now.
[01:16:27] Flash out with this dart though.
[01:16:28] I'd be able to net the McGill, does Miniboo dip into the smoke?
[01:16:32] The temptation has got to be beckoning.
[01:16:34] You've got to want to do it, Miniboo turning, the first flash comes back around, sprays into
[01:16:38] the smoke, but the reaction is there.
[01:16:41] Spot on, the reveal came in, but look at that mid flank.
[01:16:44] The only issue is that Camo has slipped the net with 13 seconds, he could be deadly.
[01:16:48] to find the plant he's not gonna be able to get it in time and now he tries to back away but the
[01:16:50] issue is there was a wild Benji on the loose but now he's got one more Camel again two key kills
[01:16:57] leaving just Benji alive unnoted thus far slipped through middle but a 1v3 is a lot to do here
[01:17:04] flash not gonna do much there Camel man Camel has been saving this liquid side
[01:17:10] A lethal today!
[01:17:13] Absolutely insane from him! Another round!
[01:17:17] Call this one a bad hour as well.
[01:17:21] Beautiful stuff!
[01:17:23] Again, just looking so composed of some of these high pressure situations.
[01:17:27] A little off-field with the...
[01:17:30] The bad hour of the smoke for the shot to re-end is beautiful.
[01:17:33] Really nice.
[01:17:40] Up to three now.
[01:17:43] Yeah, it's just because in the interview, I remember them saying that it was Nats and
[01:17:49] Logan and they kind of discussing how they actually almost prefer these pressure games.
[01:17:52] So that's the baller and they like to play.
[01:17:54] I'll just say that was some of the biggest cap I've ever seen.
[01:17:56] To see somebody setting a liquid jersey, he said, oh yeah, we're playing some games
[01:18:01] of red and butter.
[01:18:03] But hey, maybe it's...
[01:18:05] I'm all fired though.
[01:18:06] They make this a truth to this right now.
[01:18:07] I don't know, man.
[01:18:08] I'm seeing a little sign to it.
[01:18:09] they seem fired up right like I don't know if they like the pressure I don't
[01:18:13] think I could talk to a liquid fan right now and it and feel like I'm not
[01:18:17] bullying them it's it's not okay we'd like a blood pressure monitor on each and
[01:18:23] every one of them for now though a bit of a different start standardizing the
[01:18:27] approach initially we do have a couple of alts here as well booze got here's
[01:18:31] come back so here's on the other side just wanes and purpose but a very
[01:18:34] different positioning. Maybe expecting there's now a bit of a reaction to this
[01:18:39] mid pressure and the slip through middle that Benji pulled off. Now three players
[01:18:42] actually posted towards their next.
[01:18:45] We'll explore mid here.
[01:18:48] Back of comeback's ultimate.
[01:18:50] He's spot out.
[01:18:52] There's no real play for him in here. Unless he's...
[01:18:54] I mean, Cameraman has a ton of pressure.
[01:18:56] Come on, he's got two!
[01:18:58] Get into there with the Stinger, man! Come on!
[01:19:01] What the hell just happened?
[01:19:03] You're down to three now. They've got the site.
[01:19:07] Fight planted.
[01:19:08] Sorry, Liquid fans. Again.
[01:19:10] Not what the doctor ordered, but Camo is still alive.
[01:19:14] All try and keep...
[01:19:15] Look at Camo's high speed.
[01:19:16] I mean, keep your hopes alive potentially.
[01:19:18] 48. Obviously unconfirmed though. That's the tough spot.
[01:19:21] Doesn't know what he's done here.
[01:19:23] Come back weighted.
[01:19:24] Almost sacrificial in approach, but three kills.
[01:19:26] Plane. Looking for a fourth, can't quite get it.
[01:19:28] Down to a 2v2. Time now ticking and they have Stool with Benji.
[01:19:32] They've stolen boo and you're on the site tap on the spike surely waiting to see that utility come in there
[01:19:38] It is denial on the first attempt
[01:19:56] Another round we just had huge impact
[01:19:59] Yeah, that's as well just
[01:20:01] able to deliver here come back that's your place but I think that's the other
[01:20:05] side this with mini boot completely catching two members off guard here
[01:20:13] they come back at three there was a it's just outrageous but it's just like the
[01:20:19] same sort of coin both sides around though it's like it feels
[01:20:23] Not the champ, boys.
[01:20:27] Let's go, all right.
[01:20:30] Even with a very positive start, I mean, I was about to say, just before I had to say,
[01:20:34] where things have slowed down, this is where we maybe explore some of the
[01:20:38] shift in ethos for heretics in terms of this new composition and a little bit of pace to kick things off, but...
[01:20:43] I mean, I've got to give so much credit here as well towards Lohan and the coaching staff.
[01:20:47] After that timeout, we've seen just whatever the adaption was, whatever they've kind of switched up a little bit here,
[01:20:52] has landed so well this has been an absolute cure to their woes don't get me wrong camo
[01:20:57] is putting in some serious work he is actually i'd say what genuinely in charge of one of
[01:21:03] those four rounds he's gone ace with a sheriff i mean maybe three maybe three maybe three more
[01:21:09] turning those rounds i guess the three obviously on that retake but it's camo to well key damage
[01:21:16] uncle. Obviously that first kill, I believe blew up on rafters I think. Ken just kind
[01:21:23] of breaks some of that security they have once the divide falls. Again a huge disadvantage
[01:21:28] as well. Liquid now stringing together four successful defusals here.
[01:21:37] All right, let's go for this one. It looks all in direct simplistic in approach and liquid
[01:21:48] just make it look all too easy. And yeah, it's a curious view, don't worry. We'll get
[01:21:54] barracks working again. Back to vanilla. We're rolling back, but it is, mate. Slicky,
[01:21:59] get the pen out, start drawing it in yet. Money and all. No pressure. Hopefully I'll
[01:22:03] be fixed sooner than we need to do that but that's a very few numbers here
[01:22:07] heretics on the software and liquid started to get more and more confident
[01:22:10] like starting to feel some of this standard believe it themselves
[01:22:14] potentially it felt like it was one sided for quite some time liquid
[01:22:20] definitely finding what's working for them so there's some of the again
[01:22:25] spacing a little difference what we saw in some of the earlier rounds
[01:22:31] Obviously the purchase not really setting the heritage up for success.
[01:22:39] Knock on effect as well. Here will be just a couple of sheriffs behind the mix.
[01:22:47] Oh this is a hmm it's all now UI.
[01:22:52] Oh we're getting treated here Michael.
[01:22:55] Okay we are going to stay up with what we can here.
[01:22:58] Currently 5-5 if you are just tuning in and you're wondering the score because you can't see it.
[01:23:02] 5-1 piece, Benji trying to get a little bit more involved in middle, but the fight backs right here.
[01:23:07] And Liquid again coming alive. Steiner looking a little bit more deadly, having some confidence beside them.
[01:23:12] Maybe remembering who they are themselves. It's a down to 2 for Heretic, this is hard.
[01:23:16] Booze got site, but it doesn't give him full control. He can't hold Heaven, he can't hold the stairs.
[01:23:20] He has to decide which sort of approach he wants to work for. Can he at least facilitate a plant?
[01:23:25] Liquid was reading to this, they've forced heretics to play into their hands.
[01:23:32] Boo, looks as if he wants to release shoulder this.
[01:23:37] Take a peek.
[01:23:38] See if you can catch somebody in transition, but you can see Liquid just poised up.
[01:23:42] They're way on the back of Camo's ultimate to relay that information.
[01:23:45] They're big investment here.
[01:23:47] Yeah, there's no way you're getting away with it.
[01:23:49] Re-ends, look.
[01:23:50] You've got so many bodies to try and drop here.
[01:23:53] Yeah, not the chance anymore. Absolutely not going to happen.
[01:23:58] At this point, Liquid have turned around this series. It started with just Camo. Everyone else is now online.
[01:24:06] We are seeing a resurgence here. It looks damn good. Very, very impressive stuff.
[01:24:13] I think, I don't necessarily want to say that Heretic's a force back in their shell here,
[01:24:18] liquid showing that they're able to at least receive some of these pressure
[01:24:24] points that erotics are really looking to focus again mid been one of them but
[01:24:29] now where they kind of filtered into a more traditional approach towards both of
[01:24:32] these sites yeah they're falling very short yeah obviously score being six to
[01:24:37] five right now as we enter round 12 assuming the purchase is back
[01:24:43] Yeah, I was going to list off the...
[01:24:47] Walking mid?
[01:24:48] I mean Benji.
[01:24:49] Why not?
[01:24:50] Gonna have to dip out of there and kind of re-adjust a little.
[01:24:55] I quite like the slip-rinters that are trying to play with this, but it feels like Liquid's
[01:24:58] got that now.
[01:24:59] Look at that pot out.
[01:25:00] They're forcing heretics into a more all-in approach towards site, and that's even
[01:25:04] a little too.
[01:25:05] They feel confident in the retakes here.
[01:25:07] Yeah, they certainly do.
[01:25:08] This time again, though.
[01:25:09] Woodstone, Modfang, Camo.
[01:25:10] That's the big boy down.
[01:25:11] That's taken away the kind of the main danger and it's allowed for a plant to come in so man to the good
[01:25:18] Plot in play the retakes happen to work out with what four players this is gonna be hard. We could line this up perfectly
[01:25:29] Really quick trade from that so it's not out of the runs reality three players now trying to storm back through towards the B site
[01:25:35] Two playing up on site though from Heretic's.
[01:25:37] Oh the timing! He's divine for Wayne!
[01:25:41] Catching both on the turn and now the back lines
[01:25:44] feeling worse for wear. The last two try to make a stand if they are!
[01:25:47] But Kanpopo pull off the miracle here.
[01:25:49] Sad on the diffuse. He's not moving.
[01:25:51] He's only taken off!
[01:25:54] Bloody hell, he got close!
[01:25:57] Nearly a chance here but both shop stars will connect.
[01:26:00] We'll tie things up. Six apiece here at the halftime, Lauren.
[01:26:05] Yeah, and we are just gonna have a little treat for you guys.
[01:26:07] We're gonna be finding out how mini-boo at all of these lot are getting on in this second we are going to now.
[01:26:16] I just wanted something new in my life, you know, like some new challenges.
[01:26:20] And I just felt like I had an other potential in the other environment.
[01:26:26] I would say just like a different environment and not better or worse, you know,
[01:26:31] actually just working with different people, learning different things and just going forward
[01:26:37] as an individual and as a player.
[01:26:39] Wild Liquid is, I think, that our qualities and our vision came together similar, you know.
[01:26:48] We both want the same things and we both, our work ethic is similar, I think,
[01:26:54] and we share the same vision together.
[01:26:57] I mean, I've been always saying that in-game-wise that I don't count my brother as my brother,
[01:27:02] you know, he's just my IGL, and I think it doesn't change in this team as well.
[01:27:07] It's, you know, like, IS nuts, it's just IGL, and he's the oldest, and it just, it doesn't matter.
[01:27:13] I think the biggest difference is outside the game, I would say.
[01:27:15] You know, like, having a brother close nearby, you know, talking in there on your own language is also, like, different.
[01:27:22] It's just like, outside the game, comfort, you know, like, I can still see him.
[01:27:25] We met each other a few days ago, like we live in the same city, so I wouldn't say it's going to be a big difference or problem.
[01:27:33] I don't think you should judge this team compared to the last team because I think three players are different.
[01:27:40] In esports there is that thing that you have to prove yourself over and over again.
[01:27:45] Like even as in heretics, now in 2024 we go to the champs finals, then in 2025 we have to prove ourselves again.
[01:27:52] Like nothing is granted and I think the same with this team.
[01:27:55] I think that obviously we have a lot of potential to just like on us whether we are going to fulfill that potential of that.
[01:28:00] I have high hopes, obviously like I have high standards.
[01:28:03] I am a winner and I want to win.
[01:28:05] I want to be remembered as a guy who was consistent in winning.
[01:28:08] Yeah, I mean I'm positive about this year.
[01:28:16] Now the question I guess becomes in who's Romulus and who's Rimas in this situation depending.
[01:28:20] You up in history and not much of a golfer.
[01:28:24] Unfortunately.
[01:28:25] There's a golf reference, right?
[01:28:28] No, no, not even close.
[01:28:30] But family affair here, really, though, isn't it right?
[01:28:32] It's a rare occasion.
[01:28:33] I think I've only ever seen it once or twice before.
[01:28:37] You ever seen?
[01:28:38] No, no, no.
[01:28:39] Obviously here.
[01:28:40] It's only not Valorant.
[01:28:41] Absolutely.
[01:28:42] Alex, it was really interesting to speak to Miniboo the other day
[01:28:45] on the post-plan and he kind of used it.
[01:28:47] And even there, in the interview, saying,
[01:28:48] Yeah that seems like my brother, he's my IGL.
[01:28:52] Which sounds cold, but it's like for a young player to have that mentality for me is that's a huge positive.
[01:28:58] And away we go. Now, heretics.
[01:29:01] Gonna have to try and...
[01:29:03] What is going on?
[01:29:06] Now, it's a joke. Who's doing better right now? Benji or Camo?
[01:29:11] Who can carry this one hard?
[01:29:14] on, or roots on for a sitter and that's a spike so that should be kind of done here.
[01:29:19] We have one player left and that's what.
[01:29:22] Purple's trying to put it together.
[01:29:24] Okay.
[01:29:25] Alright, Purple.
[01:29:26] First.
[01:29:27] In game a second.
[01:29:28] Game a second.
[01:29:29] Alright, heretics up now to seven to six.
[01:29:33] Benji is just looking.
[01:29:36] He's looking on it today.
[01:29:37] Like a new man, honestly.
[01:29:38] Yeah.
[01:29:39] Again, another beautiful bait here on the back of comeback.
[01:29:42] So what we sounded like would have happened, if probably.
[01:29:55] Okay, my dearest co-streamers, 7-6, keep it updated, alright, I believe in you.
[01:30:05] Let's see how this carries on, I'm gonna have to keep tally, so the casting is gonna
[01:30:08] go downhill.
[01:30:09] I'm like Nats trying to IGL right now. It's my scores are something about to start writing on the screen
[01:30:15] Yeah, we actually could have no buttons. Don't touch it. No, I'm going to know which size which I mean liquid
[01:30:20] I'm a go at this round. This is all you chief. I think I'm for a minute
[01:30:24] I think we're just happy to give this one up
[01:30:30] Benji to find out you know that 3k in the second round of
[01:30:35] of this half up to eight now liquid trailing by six I'm feeling brave by
[01:30:41] two sorry at six no that's guys don't mean it's four to five that's a plus half
[01:30:49] okay we're going for eight six right so eight on this side and a six how we
[01:30:56] feel about that audience participation let me know thoughts and feelings
[01:31:02] A6, yep.
[01:31:04] There's an A on the right side, he hasn't drawn the logo just yet, but if you're wondering, obviously, on the heretics, a head-by-two here.
[01:31:12] So the purchase, coming back in for liquid.
[01:31:18] Woot now.
[01:31:19] Got you.
[01:31:20] Assorted.
[01:31:22] It's good to say whether or not Nats was good.
[01:31:24] Spot him.
[01:31:25] Despite not committed on either side yet, we're anticipating a little bit of aggression here.
[01:31:32] Benji, you're already very early on here.
[01:31:37] Oh, that's so sick of the Flash combo too!
[01:31:40] Even one of them just...
[01:31:42] Even just happily step out onto that nosey as a free engagement.
[01:31:46] Another opener found for Heretics under 60 seconds now and it could need to find a response somewhere.
[01:31:53] I'm gonna clear that off. I'm done with my graphics. Graphic design is my passion. Liquid
[01:32:05] though. We'll regroup outside 8. It woots still. I don't think it's gotten on either
[01:32:13] side here and that actually takes the worst of that. It's 21HP! He went back for seconds
[01:32:19] and so did we, and that's gone about as badly as you could imagine. No, expected
[01:32:23] Benji's got a line, Benji's got a second to play with.
[01:32:25] He takes down one, he's going to know there's one on the plumber, does he expect one on the back side?
[01:32:29] No one does, and Papo just beats that expectation.
[01:32:32] So now just these two remaining on the other side of the boat, look how far away the rotation is.
[01:32:37] That flank is a mile off for comeback.
[01:32:42] There's still a little bit of time to play with.
[01:32:44] Yeah, I mean, still lots of time to play with here.
[01:32:47] But comeback needs to get a clean engagement here on the flank.
[01:32:50] who obviously still considering his approach
[01:32:53] Can't stop him so careful
[01:32:55] Ish, oh oh look that's safe and that's on Papo's shoulders
[01:32:59] One V one, who they're trying to just get there
[01:33:01] Trying to get there as fast as he can
[01:33:03] And...
[01:33:04] No time
[01:33:05] Oh no, no time, no time
[01:33:11] You are so comfortable
[01:33:12] I'm so comfortable
[01:33:13] The blip didn't bloop
[01:33:14] Nice try from Boop
[01:33:16] Then come back maybe an opportunity to reset after that first kill
[01:33:19] but I think probably a little bit of a jump scare for him.
[01:33:22] Yeah.
[01:33:23] The boot just can't close the gap to be able to find it.
[01:33:26] Even a scenario where they can trade this effectively,
[01:33:30] Benji slipping the net here finds Nats,
[01:33:32] but you notice it as well.
[01:33:34] Maybe just a slight overheat.
[01:33:36] Not considering another player there.
[01:33:39] We're at eight to seven now.
[01:33:41] In favor to Heretic still.
[01:33:45] Gaps closing in.
[01:33:47] I'm shocked, Dan.
[01:33:51] Oh, my eyes are dumb.
[01:33:53] Obviously trying to figure the purchase out as we go, but...
[01:33:56] Obviously everybody falling from the previous round.
[01:34:00] So we'll be gaps.
[01:34:02] Oh, we'll find out, and that's this time.
[01:34:04] Again, interestingly enough, this was the default that we saw in the previous round
[01:34:07] that was liquid anticipating some aggression, and here, that will fall to it.
[01:34:11] Oh, so I don't endeavor as well, from boot.
[01:34:13] Yeah, it's surprising going away with it again
[01:34:16] got the kill this time though. That's a bit of a surprise to me because they punished him on that before.
[01:34:20] A bit of a mid walk for Benji on the case. Doesn't have too much help but he can obviously dip away.
[01:34:26] I think that might have been her and Wayne's very aware at least of this, going to re-smoke that
[01:34:31] up, but it's now going to force them on towards that B side of the map, so they continue this
[01:34:35] way. And then look at the push-up on the A side as well. They've got good info on this.
[01:34:40] Right place for it. So comeback can stay posted here. 3B4 on the site pretty much.
[01:34:46] Now here, um, that was ambitious, but it's worked out well.
[01:34:50] I mean, Kamlo's managed to skip through towards site, so fair play,
[01:34:54] and now it's getting a bit weird and a bit messy,
[01:34:55] but Benji is doing damage, but he can't do it long.
[01:34:58] It's only so much he can do.
[01:34:59] Now, you look at the other two really far away.
[01:35:01] Let us push out towards A-Main.
[01:35:03] Now they're on that long road back.
[01:35:05] So, Rien's and Woot here are gonna try and put this one together.
[01:35:12] Got two to locate, and they've been pretty heavy hitters here.
[01:35:14] Wain on the other side. Wain's in a very risky position though. Can be isolated. He needs to find his head shot!
[01:35:19] That's the nasty word! Luckily Pappu helps him out, but Pappu lost in the sauce!
[01:35:24] Completely unexpected what's happening, so heretics get another step in the right direction, moving up at 9 to 7.
[01:35:34] Is it your turn to do- What's that?
[01:35:38] 9 to 7.
[01:35:40] What's the score?
[01:35:44] I just think this happened to be better.
[01:35:46] Well actually on the other side Nats had an opportunity to find that, or at least spot
[01:35:51] the information, maybe make a decision and I'll swear again what kind of the ideal
[01:35:58] situation is for Liquid there in terms of expecting aggression and very quickly getting
[01:36:03] themselves into a position to make moves elsewhere. I think we've probably
[01:36:12] kept them a little bit at the end of that round.
[01:36:17] Lost to consider here in a timeout with our Schumer's liquids.
[01:36:21] If I turn around.
[01:36:22] There's a big hole.
[01:36:24] Big hole.
[01:36:25] Yeah.
[01:36:26] Right in.
[01:36:27] Yeah, not necessarily looking as if they've got their finger on the pulse here in the second half
[01:36:33] Again a little bit of a split focus, but obviously the funds are necessary stabilized for them
[01:36:43] No, there's no real way to see it is there
[01:36:45] No, I can try and think of any singular way you can shape my mind
[01:36:48] You've completely solved them, sure there
[01:36:49] Yeah
[01:36:50] Because that scoreboard doesn't exist here
[01:36:52] Yep, yep, sorry guys, sorry
[01:36:57] Is there a way to get just like the normal game HUD absurdities that'd be kind of cool?
[01:37:02] I don't know. You know what? I shouldn't say this on there. I'm not putting you on the spot. I don't mean to be mean. It's not you guys.
[01:37:07] But like...
[01:37:09] You can kind of help me. Anyway, for now, if you are just tuning in, is 9-7 in favour of Territix.
[01:37:15] Oh, Wayne may be setting up a TP here.
[01:37:17] Are we doing a little something? What are we up to? What are we up to, Wayne?
[01:37:20] Are we going?
[01:37:22] I think we just saw an X-ray there, is...
[01:37:24] Hmm...
[01:37:25] I mean, Benji was on the other side of that.
[01:37:31] I'm looking fairly one-dimensional from liquid on the way in.
[01:37:34] Ooh!
[01:37:35] Cool. That time, though. Come back.
[01:37:37] I mean...
[01:37:38] Can't go away with that angle before.
[01:37:40] This time, certainly going to be punished.
[01:37:42] Way cleaner.
[01:37:43] And it's boo. I want to respect this now.
[01:37:45] Oh, good coming.
[01:37:46] Did that connect? Yeah, I think it did.
[01:37:48] Yes, it did.
[01:37:49] Reans!
[01:37:50] Dishin' it out!
[01:37:51] I mean, I thought he was on for a sit today catching some more, but it's caused a bit of a problem.
[01:37:56] And speaking of problems, where's our second string? There it is!
[01:37:59] Carmel! What a great start that reached today!
[01:38:03] Three key kills!
[01:38:05] I'd say Keeper on a pistol, but he's been great in the rifles as well.
[01:38:08] So just re-ends with three to low.
[01:38:11] Carmel!
[01:38:13] What an absolute mad game from this man.
[01:38:17] That was absolutely insane.
[01:38:20] once more from camo pixel perfect pistol and just a beautiful crunch here
[01:38:30] get the near side taking effect as well
[01:38:35] the shot to the boom is just so behind
[01:38:41] hey look I'm just trying to give him a shot
[01:38:43] I didn't know not to say
[01:38:44] I know you'll see that Sager
[01:38:46] do one that's fine
[01:38:47] drop a rifle, drop a rifle
[01:38:48] yeah this is really going to help our economy actually
[01:38:52] so the purchase here will be just a couple of
[01:38:54] sheriff's four heretics rifles across the board
[01:38:56] but that's still with a scope
[01:39:00] So we can see the finances here, but on the other screen, at 9 to 8, I mean, it's actually
[01:39:07] the pretty rough predicament both sides.
[01:39:09] No one has to particularly build up much funding behind them back and forth the whole way,
[01:39:13] and we can see how close these rounds have been getting.
[01:39:15] Turning that around with just the new pistol is already ridiculous, but it ends once
[01:39:19] ago as well.
[01:39:20] It's a pistol, Dave.
[01:39:21] Apparently.
[01:39:22] People just land in.
[01:39:23] Just hitting shots.
[01:39:24] It's fine.
[01:39:25] We're going in though.
[01:39:26] go in though. They do have some ultimates to work with here Liquid. We shall kill though
[01:39:34] potentially when they end so close. Something that works off in that engagement.
[01:39:38] And he's the rest of the team now to kind of get active in this. Nats needs to be aware
[01:39:43] that he's about to get flooded. He's got Papo to help him out here, which should
[01:39:47] be enough. Yeah, between the two of them. They're late to the party there, but
[01:39:51] we burned Darzily's got the classic go, but by now Liquid just had numbers. They're
[01:39:54] timing you would need. Miracle. Miracle re-ends is what I'm saying not just
[01:40:00] that's the one we wanted. That's too late. Wayne. Lovely. Good work that team. Liquid tying us up at 9-8 piece.
[01:40:10] Starting to build a little bit of momentum here as I said. Camo
[01:40:15] Wayne and Nats all with ultimates to play with.
[01:40:18] Miniboo not too far away. Obviously heretics will have an opportunity to buy back in here
[01:40:22] potentially going to see come back on the Operator if heretics can make anything
[01:40:26] work around that okay I am back in the game
[01:40:32] Wayne feeling like he's showing up here just before round 19 back in the game back
[01:40:37] in the game back with a HUD
[01:40:41] oh it's sticking around
[01:40:42] Permahut. Permahut.
[01:40:44] Yay! Who knows what we're in for here today.
[01:40:47] Do not trust it. We'll keep you up to date.
[01:40:49] Look at those. Pick up the pace, yeah.
[01:40:52] Super, super direct. Maybe just building off the ult and...
[01:40:55] Deep exploration of the Camel there.
[01:40:57] So taking full side control, meaning we're trying to be that second string to the bow almost,
[01:41:00] allowing for the plant, no one able to fly back through.
[01:41:03] So they can fall away and sit in the post plant.
[01:41:05] Ult-wise, yeah, you got Nats and Wayne, but not exactly instigators.
[01:41:08] It's Wu that I'm looking at.
[01:41:09] I was gonna say issue being who has a huge tool to be able to get something going here potentially will connect
[01:41:16] onto to
[01:41:25] This is the team that should absolutely strike terror into your hearts. I know it's come back trying to back them away
[01:41:33] Just one on camo
[01:41:36] That's about it
[01:41:38] And again, Hyde is a little slower, but more isn't was the pace coming out from the liquid up to 10 tonight.
[01:41:46] I mean finding double digits here, talking about the momentum, another round indicative of the liquid.
[01:41:52] Really riding that wave Lauren.
[01:41:55] Miniboo and Camo in unison.
[01:42:00] That's to seal the deal to find comeback and gain a little bit of energy from the coach, Booth.
[01:42:08] So we will have a timeout here called by Heretics, just to take stock because this seems to have
[01:42:18] tipped in Liquid's favour in the last few four or five rounds.
[01:42:23] Yeah, three in succession for Liquid now.
[01:42:28] So it does feel as though we are now into that kind of tilting point, right?
[01:42:32] Sadly, and I guess more importantly, we're at double digits, so you can't afford
[01:42:38] to wait any later. It is only looking like Sheriff's potentially coming out for the heretic
[01:42:43] side so that could be another factor in this. However, they will have quite a few Alts potentially
[01:42:48] there. Boo's gonna have his I think. Come back again I say this with slight pause hesitation
[01:42:53] but I'm looking at the other screen. I am sent. He's got his ult. Benji won off as
[01:42:58] well so there's a couple of key ults here that could give heretics a little bit more
[01:43:02] of an opportunity into this round, but again, not the way it's a...
[01:43:06] Yeah, a concern being, well, maybe seeing a comeback consider investment here.
[01:43:09] I was going to say if they lose this, obviously Liquid have effectively a buffer to buy out again,
[01:43:15] depending how clean, but I'd be very surprised if really Liquid have left
[01:43:20] hurting here, even if Heretic's equalised, but for Sheriff's and Rifle, call it for comeback.
[01:43:28] So maybe a set piece out to address the default.
[01:43:33] I mean the reveal is huge and Wayne will fall.
[01:43:36] It's a really nice plan. I love it when teams do this.
[01:43:39] When they're willing to take a little bit more of a gamble on it, try and make a set piece work out.
[01:43:43] And it's been such a reward taken away, Wayne.
[01:43:45] Now can they deal with that maybe site hit that could be coming? I don't know.
[01:43:49] Wayne they've just got into the game remember?
[01:43:51] Yeah.
[01:43:54] Let's see if Liquid can find a response here.
[01:43:57] Eager to try and equalize. Catch a glimpse but no connection found.
[01:44:04] There.
[01:44:07] I'll swear, you can see exploration outside B here, so Eritix is really looking to take a lot of space away from liquid,
[01:44:14] and the confirmation will come now that actually the focus must be towards A.
[01:44:19] 2nd to early, but in the side we go. The commitment!
[01:44:26] The end is on for a second, but the spacing is diverse!
[01:44:30] It's dreamy work for Kalmog! Perfectly placed, poised and patient!
[01:44:37] Leaving Benji and Buu with a long way back. I think they know that.
[01:44:44] And Bo is still with just a classic, so Benji a chance to do some damage here, but you gotta
[01:44:50] assume not to recover.
[01:44:52] We've got a mix of all clean up, 11 on the board, 4 liquid, Camo continuing to take
[01:45:00] strides for liquid here, 24 kills on the board now.
[01:45:05] And again we made the comment earlier just pivotal in terms of some of these rounds,
[01:45:09] but not necessarily from an individual effort, this is all in from liquid right, really
[01:45:13] well-considered approach, but he's always the fun man. He just continues to deliver.
[01:45:20] Nice!
[01:45:23] Him and Milly Boog just put it in. Absolutely work.
[01:45:27] Pretty words, Jude. They look good. They look really good. 11-9 now.
[01:45:31] Heretics, this is hopefully all that timeout was for, right? This round here should be what
[01:45:35] is building too. And we're gonna have to take the way out.
[01:45:39] Again this is one of those sort of receptive defaults from Liquid anticipating
[01:45:45] heretics trying to make some moves. Again it's that pieces of look good from
[01:45:49] heretics. Talks about the pistols, some of these early round engagements have
[01:45:55] certainly packed a punch. Liquid almost leaning into that by leaving three
[01:46:03] members outside A this time. What's previously Nats to try and pull
[01:46:07] he sat space but...
[01:46:09] They have to do so much space on this side now.
[01:46:12] Perfect timing now for the ult to be popped.
[01:46:14] That's even not a wide open, but an opportunity for sure.
[01:46:18] Because the TP towards the back, right?
[01:46:20] So that's in play.
[01:46:21] You can see the eyes turn towards it.
[01:46:22] Comeback delivers, takes away Nats.
[01:46:24] And now they're right amongst them.
[01:46:25] Wayne's being a nuisance just because he is so deep on towards this.
[01:46:28] They've also kind of given up the CT side.
[01:46:30] Good trade for Woot, but they're still an issue of the fact of Wayne.
[01:46:33] How much can one man do?
[01:46:35] That's what he could do! Left to stab on his own two feet!
[01:46:38] But now into 2v2, the plant is in.
[01:46:41] And Miniboo here, getting curious, might just catch his brother!
[01:46:45] Absolutely does leave Benji in the clutch.
[01:46:48] Benji, Perpo and Miniboo to locate.
[01:46:52] Korsh is steps forward to tap on the spike to try and call them closer.
[01:46:55] That's one spotted. Great shot, can't quite correct it in time.
[01:46:59] Another tap, trying to draw him in.
[01:47:01] Miniboo he's waiting so so patient about this toy with him Benji time is running out here
[01:47:10] It's got the heart for it
[01:47:13] It's close Mike
[01:47:20] Me boo strion a paid Benji out there the confirmation on the first tap
[01:47:26] but Penji ice cold once more again a really well constructed round from
[01:47:34] liquid making a ton of good decisions again just the last one here purple
[01:47:40] mini but a little off this early on yeah again you want to see a double
[01:47:45] swing there not just one to buy time maybe oh shit yeah same yeah
[01:47:53] Oh my god, wait, hold on, they're right up the roof again. What is this tempo? Is he in the A getting excited, Michael?
[01:48:01] Are we finally getting good games here? I feel like these two have to know where to play some until now, but suddenly, we're getting, like, high quality games coming out.
[01:48:08] And straight in towards A though, Nats couldn't play around in the middle, but it's on towards Cam, taking the space here.
[01:48:12] Beautiful.
[01:48:13] Going to have that hundreds fury, that's two noted, Nats does get blew down, but the sides could be taken.
[01:48:17] Already coming back, trying to slice through again. Answer back in his own way, 4v4.
[01:48:22] Camo then, layers in, Rienz does get away with his life.
[01:48:29] Goal! Just because Wayne would be careful.
[01:48:31] Whoa! The title of the swing there!
[01:48:34] Heretic suddenly finding their own sort of fire!
[01:48:37] And Benji closing down with an over yet!
[01:48:40] They're going all the way here, 11-11.
[01:48:44] Couple of members of heretics now stepping up shining
[01:48:50] Under this pressure
[01:48:53] Even here with another situation where you feel liquid are in the driving seat in terms of the early rounds. Oh
[01:49:01] Beautiful stuff from who
[01:49:05] In camera, unfortunately left a little too disconnected
[01:49:12] Another lip reading moment
[01:49:14] All tied up now again funds still something in the bank for liquid
[01:49:22] Heretics gonna be struggling behind this for two members at least if they concede round 23
[01:49:29] Hunters here available divide available for heretics on the other side and nothing on the cards for liquid
[01:49:37] That's a lot of players
[01:49:39] Here comes woot and does he get out of there does
[01:49:42] manage to back away
[01:49:44] The one-two punch the purple still be able to stay alive wait. How do you get come back there too hold on?
[01:49:50] That's not great. They know Benji was around
[01:49:53] Well, maybe just spotted there didn't see a pink come through but now we'll get the confirmation Benji will have to retreat
[01:50:00] Liquid read on the situation here. We'll pay out the Hunters fury as well. It's a mini. We're not gonna take
[01:50:06] Any damage in this situation and a chance to get a clean plant
[01:50:09] In the post-plant? Okay. Nat's sitting super deep. We've got Miniboo and Perpo on the site.
[01:50:16] No ults to play with Rianne to two shockdarts. That's kind of it. So guns out and we've been seeing some big boy aim here.
[01:50:22] We'll put the first one in. Gonna take those steps forward. Benji side by side. Benji on the swing.
[01:50:26] Miniboo should be spotted. They're trying to play in Perpo here. And it's worked wonders!
[01:50:31] And then just re-ending to 1v3, 12, beckoning for Team Liquid, one kill away now.
[01:50:39] Re-ends as close as you get and drops it off 12 on the board.
[01:50:46] Beautiful staff Liquid, slipping into a very comfortable post-plant here, mini-boot.
[01:50:53] Again, a little cool under the pressure here, able to bait Popo in perfectly.
[01:50:58] I think at the same time, Nat's finding a kill for the back lines,
[01:51:01] purple two crucial kills to swing this back into a position where they can still
[01:51:06] hit b-
[01:51:31] you
[01:52:01] you
[01:52:31] you
[01:53:01] you
[01:53:31] you
[01:54:01] You
[01:55:31] I'm number five
[01:55:33] We are sacrifice
[01:55:35] Running up to the front
[01:55:37] We are our team
[01:55:39] My superpower
[01:55:41] Get my head up high
[01:55:43] Run to the right
[01:55:45] In a shot
[01:55:47] And I'll see it with all the stars
[01:55:49] Baby, it's my superpower
[01:55:57] I'm not used to what somebody call
[01:55:59] I'm not a clown, tough guy, just y'all go, so don't mind that
[01:56:02] You can't even shoot me, gunfight, I brought it back
[01:56:05] They feel like the same, they just a warm up for you, say
[01:56:08] This is what I'm, you band-aids, get on with me, Rampy
[01:56:11] This is how you can train
[01:56:13] Look at myself playing B, you're playing A
[01:56:15] Like a pain, like a champion, like the champion
[01:56:18] You can't ever lose
[01:56:21] Boss, not to lose
[01:56:23] Here on the edge
[01:56:26] I'll never hide from the back
[01:56:28] Please, I'll never fly
[01:56:31] Please, I'll set the fire
[01:56:33] But I'll still find it all
[01:56:36] Baby, it's my superpower
[01:56:39] Yeah, I'm a little guy
[01:56:41] Right there in the shine
[01:56:44] Can I stay with the desktop?
[01:56:47] Baby, it's my superpower
[01:56:56] This one will never stop me coming I kick it down every door they lock
[01:57:05] No rules, no rules Only girls can judge me
[01:57:08] Only girls can judge me Only girls can judge me
[01:57:13] Only girls can judge me If I never play, I'll never fly
[01:57:19] I'm so proud, it's my super power
[01:57:27] It's my super power, right to win the show
[01:57:32] Can you see this? I'm just proud, it's my super power
[01:57:42] I'm so proud, it's my super power
[01:57:49] But moments are only about not even regretting something.
[01:58:04] Every moment that I can hit, I just like stand up.
[01:58:09] Integrate, you know, I just push through, you know.
[01:58:12] Success needs to come, you know.
[01:58:14] PPL!
[01:58:16] You have absolutely no one but us.
[01:58:20] There's no such a team that PPL is afraid of.
[01:58:23] I think they should be afraid of us.
[01:58:25] Valorant, Valorant, Valorant all the time.
[01:58:27] Like Valorant is everything for me, you know?
[01:58:29] There's no other option for me than becoming the best.
[01:58:34] Val by 1st Santiago is the main goal for me.
[01:58:36] There's no easy games and everyone deserves to be here,
[01:58:38] but that's also what makes it fun, right?
[01:58:44] I have so many trophies behind my back, and I want to beat anyone.
[01:58:48] If it means I have to beat my former teammates,
[01:58:50] you might decide to beat your friends, but it's okay.
[01:58:56] Demarates is used to playing in the lower bracket,
[01:58:58] and we're always going to be one of the best teams in Europe.
[01:59:04] We can handle the hard moments, and this is another hard moment for us.
[01:59:14] There has been a change in the Biscuit position, is there more down to the bridge being unfavorable
[01:59:43] and favourable in this meta are two conflictability guys, can you use normal words?
[01:59:50] I mean I just play in two hour strengths, that's it.
[01:59:52] We changed a lot this week and yeah, we're just playing more around our strengths.
[01:59:57] I think everyone's playing comfortable agents, things that are comfortable with and...
[02:00:02] That's it?
[02:00:03] Yeah, that's it.
[02:00:04] Simple as that.
[02:00:04] That's our game.
[02:00:05] Best of us, you know?
[02:00:06] That's it.
[02:00:09] They're playing what they're comfortable with.
[02:00:11] It didn't work out in their favor as well as you managed to close out a base after a questionable
[02:00:16] venture that we've seen on it against Casey.
[02:00:19] So good things showing out from the side of Team Liquid, but also heretics on the other
[02:00:22] side of things.
[02:00:23] I think a lot of the players as well, so it's tough to play.
[02:00:24] And I think for me personally, Billy, this was a lot closer than I expected it to be.
[02:00:28] Yeah, definitely.
[02:00:29] I think especially when you consider Team Heretics winning both the pistols and
[02:00:31] then losing out on the map, it's really frustrating when you end up saying that happened.
[02:00:35] But to touch on Team Liquid's composition change, I think that this is what we wanted
[02:00:38] to see from them.
[02:00:39] I think that previously having that breach in Tejo, we were kind of like,
[02:00:42] ugh, you're playing in a base without a sova, I feel like that's kind of mastery.
[02:00:45] And Tom really likes the breach.
[02:00:46] Yeah, yeah.
[02:00:47] So yeah, I think they...
[02:00:49] A lot of comfortability on it.
[02:00:50] They've not steered away to anything that's like too crazy.
[02:00:55] I think if anything, they've gone to a composition that should work from them.
[02:00:58] And I'd like as well that we're seeing Camel being on that permaioro.
[02:01:01] It seems like they're kind of having purple on the initiator now
[02:01:04] and Camel's the secondary duelist, which I feel like going forward
[02:01:07] should be Team Liquid's identity.
[02:01:09] I feel like both teams shifted to a more meta comp on this map,
[02:01:12] but then you start to see some of the problems with heretics
[02:01:15] I think we saw all the way through where it's like,
[02:01:17] okay, comeback, we hadn't had him on Yoru yet.
[02:01:20] Mainly because I felt like it wasn't a comfortable pick.
[02:01:23] It didn't look particularly comfortable.
[02:01:24] And then you put Wu on the Wele, has that kind of switch.
[02:01:27] And I was a little bit surprised by that.
[02:01:29] Like, I understand, I think,
[02:01:30] with comeback still feeling out a lot of different agents,
[02:01:33] I do think Wele's been one of the okay ones so far.
[02:01:36] So to swap those over and both of them just looked a little bit lost in comparison to the other two
[02:01:41] Like you look at camera mini boo mini boo taking the space and camera then just killing everyone like that was the game
[02:01:46] That was how most of them at when?
[02:01:50] Wasn't even with rifles at the time. He did it with a bandit
[02:01:53] He did it with a sheriff like he was just and you know what camos one of those players on this team liquid roster that can
[02:01:58] Just turn up in moments like that and have individual rounds
[02:02:01] Yeah, well we're going to buy
[02:02:04] next and that's where we kind
[02:02:05] of have to dissect this agent
[02:02:07] this summer around. We're not
[02:02:08] letting the castors do it. We're
[02:02:09] actually going to do our job.
[02:02:11] So, uh, Tom, I see you have a
[02:02:12] little little raise me right
[02:02:14] there. Like they're going
[02:02:15] really into the double jewel
[02:02:16] is like mini blue now
[02:02:17] switching over to the neon.
[02:02:18] You've got the way they
[02:02:19] coming through as well. So
[02:02:21] they really want to try and
[02:02:22] get that double dive in. I'm
[02:02:24] interested by the neon a lot.
[02:02:26] Definitely not one of the
[02:02:27] more popular jewel is on this
[02:02:29] map. So how he's going to be
[02:02:30] space I think it's going to be critical. On the other side of things, yeah they're kind of stuck
[02:02:34] to what they know. It was a composition that worked but I'm very very intrigued by the the
[02:02:39] Neon Wei Lei bind. Yeah I'm really confused why they got with Minibu on Neon but also I don't
[02:02:45] mind it too much because I think if you have camel on the Wei Lei you're kind of maybe expecting
[02:02:49] Minibu to be a bit more self-sufficient because realistically you have got the sky and the
[02:02:54] Wei Lei to help you be able to enter into that site. I really do just see Minibu running
[02:02:59] it down here and obviously fast rotations being on the neon. Yeah, I still think you could have
[02:03:04] lent into the Yoro. I feel like the TP alongside the dive feels a little more comfortable than
[02:03:09] the slide through tight chokes, which this map is all about. I do think on defense his stuns are
[02:03:14] going to be quite valuable, so maybe that's the thought process that he can have the operator
[02:03:18] and he can slow everybody on the other side, but they are kicking things off on the attack
[02:03:22] and I think that might be a bit tougher than running, say, a raise or Yoro.
[02:03:27] Maybe who would this say that this is going to be even more exciting than the best?
[02:03:31] It's exciting.
[02:03:32] It is Heretic's Mavic, so so far his words do remain true.
[02:03:35] Yeah, I mean I'm excited to see it.
[02:03:37] I think like, this is what I've been saying though, like Team Liquid, it doesn't surprise
[02:03:42] me that they come into this stage of kickoff and just decides to throw everything out
[02:03:46] there and be like, do you know what, let's switch things up.
[02:03:48] Exciting doesn't mean good.
[02:03:49] Well, we'll let the casters decide that because you know, maybe they can give
[02:03:53] us some insight about whether exciting means good.
[02:03:55] So, Pansy Hyde Park, are we excited?
[02:03:58] I am filled with joy.
[02:04:00] Absolutely and utterly exciting means good.
[02:04:03] Yeah, definitely.
[02:04:04] I mean, the worst thing you wanna see here
[02:04:06] is both teams show up to the series today
[02:04:08] and continue with some of the issues we've seen,
[02:04:10] especially on the side of Liquid.
[02:04:12] I mean, that's a very exciting map one.
[02:04:14] All things considered. Absolutely.
[02:04:15] Their ability to be very resilient
[02:04:17] in a situation where it felt like,
[02:04:19] it's a game with a great game plan to abyss.
[02:04:21] And they had the individual showing up as well.
[02:04:23] We have great looks coming up from Heretics, but it wasn't enough.
[02:04:27] Team Liquid map one under the belt, going in though to Heretics' map choice of finds.
[02:04:33] But a new look coming up for them, some new agents coming in here.
[02:04:36] Is this the switch up? They can get this one done.
[02:04:39] Let's see if Liquid can get this done in two. Do you believe in that?
[02:04:42] I mean, I do believe now. Yeah, I've seen what, again, an isolated incident
[02:04:47] in terms of the KCV and the common denominator for both these scenes.
[02:04:50] But overall, the liquid just looks so much better in terms of confidence in their fundamentals,
[02:04:55] which has been something that's been specifically lacking from previous series.
[02:04:59] I was going to say, Benji nearly catches somebody.
[02:05:01] There's three in spawn.
[02:05:03] They're just waiting for contact.
[02:05:04] I guess maybe assuming it is this all in, and then they just go rotate off the back.
[02:05:08] They're maybe just trying to read into the comp they're playing up against.
[02:05:11] There isn't going to be many kind of false punches or faints in this.
[02:05:13] It is going to be very direct.
[02:05:15] And it's worked well thus far.
[02:05:16] Heretics absolutely storm in the house again.
[02:05:20] Okay, that's a mini foo. Easy. Now just Nats. It won't be three.
[02:05:27] Spikes in a bit of a tricky spot here, Michael. Yes. Yes. This would require a miracle.
[02:05:35] Known to be previously, catches.
[02:05:39] He's reading this really damn well. Guess the spot in a second. I'm pretty sure that.
[02:05:43] If anyone could do it, you would believe in this, man.
[02:05:50] We'll hear this.
[02:05:52] He has been spiking 38 seconds, but can he get away?
[02:05:55] Yes, and Katnats is doing really well here.
[02:05:58] Plenty of time to get this plant down as well,
[02:06:00] potentially a chance to reset comfortably
[02:06:04] before anybody can really crest through his full reins.
[02:06:06] That's 20 HP as well.
[02:06:08] pretty healthy and with a light shield that's does disengage entirely here
[02:06:18] do this options again that's no one be one down the HP is low on his side up
[02:06:27] against boo playing with him testing him gotta be careful one bullet might be the
[02:06:33] death of him he has to play this right he's taking a second guess he's trying
[02:06:38] play with the time here, Nats might be on for an absolute heater here, plays it to perfection!
[02:06:44] You have just witnessed a master of work, a red ball clutch to start it all and no one else could have done that.
[02:06:52] Like I said, historically a miracle worker in his own right pulled what?
[02:07:00] A pistol round to open the second map here from Nats.
[02:07:04] Absolutely surgical. Again even at the end here playing the timings perfectly.
[02:07:11] Leads boo like an open book.
[02:07:16] He's good at this game. He's still just insane.
[02:07:22] They can fully focus on just what's in front of them. You see it, you see it every single time.
[02:07:29] And it looked like it was going to be a showers crunch, who does plan a great show on camo, but obviously all trades favourable thus far towards liquid.
[02:07:41] Trying to go for a little walk out here, so testing them.
[02:07:45] Liquid just kind of freezing for a second, probably the right call here.
[02:07:48] Make sure they don't walk into any naughtyness, it depends how long they're willing to wait, I guess, then becomes a question.
[02:07:53] And what are you reading?
[02:07:57] The situation perfectly, Nats.
[02:07:58] Ooh, timing's not there.
[02:08:01] Could be threat here.
[02:08:03] Yeah, when did any of them check?
[02:08:04] Do they check?
[02:08:05] There are a lot of bodies, and a lot of bodies to drop now.
[02:08:09] But luckily, Wayne and Nats doing damage,
[02:08:11] and it's safe.
[02:08:12] Three still alive, and Liquid get their second.
[02:08:16] Look, the little dicey there, Nats gives up the angle.
[02:08:19] Miniboo gives up the angle as well.
[02:08:22] I think that's still gonna kill that even from the transition back in the side
[02:08:26] Minibo get that kill
[02:08:31] Again the timing perfect here the liquid dead into cleanup rifles will obviously come back for heretics here a bucky in hand for camo, so
[02:08:42] But it may be
[02:08:44] Look for something a little cheeky here to start around three
[02:08:48] Yeah, I want to see if they have something more direct again.
[02:08:52] Yeah, it looks very singular in approach, Ben.
[02:08:56] She's going to be tested.
[02:08:58] First has is 1v1.
[02:08:59] There's the combo.
[02:09:00] There's that one to punch, and it lands.
[02:09:04] Now they're going to be ringing off to this.
[02:09:06] Oh, new look to Liquid here.
[02:09:08] Where is this team been?
[02:09:10] And Rien's going to do so much.
[02:09:11] There was just bodies after bodies.
[02:09:13] Mike, they are on the same page today.
[02:09:15] I mean the spacing once more looking great in some of these very rehearsed set pieces
[02:09:23] Initially concerns obviously around the composition the desk what highlighting but
[02:09:27] Can if they can continue you sort of bait and switch between camo and mini boot
[02:09:32] It's looking really well drilled
[02:09:36] God that's impressive. Yeah, I'm so impressed. I mean the cats on the GP as well sick absolutely sick
[02:09:42] But you can just see, be able to see the plans in motion, seeing that spacing better, the trading better, the synergy, it feels like they've kind of fixed a lot of those kind of, it feels like core problems, not, you know, the strats or the pre-made plans, but just like conceptually playing well together is something that's not been in the liquid, I guess,
[02:10:00] Yeah, it just feels like it's been lacking a little bit and we were waiting to see if that was ever going to work out.
[02:10:05] Obviously new players coming in, new ways to work, there was a lot of question marks around it, but today they look solid.
[02:10:12] And obviously some heretics, a rough start here in that too.
[02:10:16] The drone is converging, certainly a tough pill to swallow.
[02:10:24] Not necessarily going to be much of an opportunity here to follow that, but we'll see some investment here.
[02:10:29] A couple of sheriffs rifle in the hands of Woot.
[02:10:34] Reends as well potential to do some damage, but...
[02:10:38] Again with all four light shields.
[02:10:41] That's an opportunity to punish.
[02:10:43] Come back, nearly caught.
[02:10:45] That's 21 HP.
[02:10:47] Lucky to be breathing at this point.
[02:10:50] Let's get to reset with the rest towards showers but
[02:10:53] obviously then leaving B looking a little bit more vulnerable.
[02:10:56] Clear and cautiously towards Long, the flash is going to connect but
[02:10:59] still, camo.
[02:11:01] Erring on the side of caution.
[02:11:03] Wants to get the full picture before committing towards either side of this map.
[02:11:07] It was a long rotation but they do have now
[02:11:11] four players near on on this B site.
[02:11:14] Still held out, rotation as you noted, already in effect here for heretics but huge disadvantage
[02:11:24] if Liquid just decided to ball those onto site here which looks like it might be the plan
[02:11:29] for them.
[02:11:30] Great stall, really nice stall out.
[02:11:31] Now this should be very telling of how many bodies are on this side of the map.
[02:11:35] So they take the get out jail free card which is probably the best bet they had naps
[02:11:38] on this side of the map.
[02:11:39] It will be re-weighting.
[02:11:41] Does have the rightful, but no opportunity.
[02:11:43] Camel is just doing bits, man.
[02:11:46] Let's go down a comeback.
[02:11:48] Again, you're down to very few players,
[02:11:50] maybe a little too far there from Mini Boop.
[02:11:52] And now giving Rienz an opportunity,
[02:11:55] but that opportunity is limited.
[02:11:58] Threadbearer best, but Rienz making something of it.
[02:12:01] Still has the wingman too,
[02:12:03] so could apply a bit of pressure to this.
[02:12:06] I think Perpway's going to be considered in this position.
[02:12:09] that. And it will be cancelled out. So no freebie for re-ends. And no information either
[02:12:16] on the back of that because it's the Molly obviously a deep position noted but...
[02:12:20] Papo-Silla, no in the swing power thanks to you from Liquid, a 4-0 star two-bind crossing
[02:12:30] the T's, dying the eyes they are doing everything right. Yeah a little costly in that round
[02:12:34] but heretics did try and get a little bit cheeky with it. Fair play, you're
[02:12:37] gonna get a couple casualties but by all right they're doing excellent work here on liquid.
[02:12:42] You're looking at the ults as well they are now knocking at the door. Have two ready to go camos
[02:12:46] obviously from this round you can see exactly why Nat's had his probably quite early to be fair
[02:12:50] he's been doing wonders but two away from me there's purpose only two off as well so a couple
[02:12:55] of key ults there very nearby similar scenes for heretics and now might be the chance to use them
[02:13:00] Information at least, I'm sure here, but it looks like it might be a quick hauling piece
[02:13:09] here from Liquid on the back of the dog.
[02:13:10] But the lack of dealing with it from site potentially does tell you where heretics are currently
[02:13:15] sitting.
[02:13:16] Now, Benjes don't work, take away Camo, can they layer into this, right they can.
[02:13:20] Bapu and Wayne putting bodies on the line and simply doing well.
[02:13:24] Liquid just flooding site in great synergy.
[02:13:27] Booth, try to get the best of Mini Booth, not going to happen!
[02:13:32] Younger brother, doing well here.
[02:13:35] Wooten comebacks options, dwindling.
[02:13:37] Very limited.
[02:13:38] Illegria completely disconnected here, two posted up pretty deep and
[02:13:44] a little bit of post plant here potentially.
[02:13:48] From Wayne.
[02:13:50] And Molly will go in, good stall initially.
[02:13:53] They're just reducing the options even further for Heretics.
[02:13:55] And then they just get toyed with it feels almost hard to watch I look one side swung from the other comebacks tried
[02:14:02] But the time's simply gone to really players to find he knows it
[02:14:05] He's out of their liquid eyeing up this fifth round and deservedly
[02:14:09] So the way they are playing is what we wanted to see from this team this entire year so far
[02:14:15] Back to the same statement once more just looking so well drilled
[02:14:20] the prep
[02:14:22] See addressing some of the issues we've seen and
[02:14:24] And again, with Lohan talking about the identity that they really want to try and captivate
[02:14:29] and become very comfortable in it, we're seeing, we're seeing many examples already to date.
[02:14:37] From map 1 here and the opening of bind, it's under camo and mini-boot.
[02:14:42] See, Perpome alongside that for sure setting things in motion, but they're looking so
[02:14:48] comfortable on the front lines.
[02:14:51] And as much as Map Bomb was a really good map to watch from our perspective, right?
[02:14:54] Like as a viewer, as a castor, as someone just watching, yes, for Heretic, so it was a really
[02:14:59] good look.
[02:15:00] There's some brilliant, brilliant moments, and they're still lost, right?
[02:15:03] So it's very hard to pick yourself up.
[02:15:05] Continue that confidence.
[02:15:06] Come back in on a map that's historically been Natsis Playground, or one of his, you
[02:15:10] know, iconic maps.
[02:15:11] That's signature.
[02:15:12] So you do start to feel like maybe you're up against it a bit.
[02:15:15] You're starting to feel a little bit more of that pressure.
[02:15:17] I can't tell you enough.
[02:15:18] This is a elimination game between these two.
[02:15:21] Only one can carry on.
[02:15:23] That is it.
[02:15:24] And even then, you're not particularly safe, but you have to get past this hurdle.
[02:15:27] So you talk about pressure and confidence.
[02:15:29] The heretics, we saw it in map one, they came out, I think, with a pass in my eyes.
[02:15:32] It was a great game.
[02:15:33] It was a close game.
[02:15:34] I'm not seeing that here.
[02:15:36] They look a little bit behind the curve.
[02:15:37] They're not quite as, you know, present in this.
[02:15:40] Well made plans as much.
[02:15:41] So I do worry they might start to feel this more.
[02:15:45] In Booth, you get to get on the board, it's an R and 5 and again, Benji would have an
[02:15:53] explosive start to map 1, trending fairly similar, the Redwoods have denied a dog at
[02:16:01] least, Camo going forward once more, we're actually going to land a shot here, then
[02:16:05] you get it again, good for the trade.
[02:16:08] So quick on the pace there, almost sacrificial in a way, happy just go for it, make sure
[02:16:11] it's traded out Booth.
[02:16:12] I mean, I've gone away with one, but again, Miniboo right there again.
[02:16:16] You don't get a body without 1B and drop right back.
[02:16:19] Miniboo just tearing him up now. Come back and have the battle for a second, man.
[02:16:23] Look for a second.
[02:16:25] What?
[02:16:26] Hi, Benji.
[02:16:27] What was that?
[02:16:29] You got 1B2, though?
[02:16:31] No, you don't.
[02:16:33] Quick to make up for any sort of possibility.
[02:16:37] That's 6 and 0, man.
[02:16:39] That's all it is, man.
[02:16:41] I feel like the most times we've seen that smile with the sequel series so far.
[02:16:47] I'm gonna weigh off his shoulders if you're starting to see the stars align.
[02:16:50] All the things you've been working on is like, yeah, that's gotta feel fantastic.
[02:16:53] What I can say, because this takes a lot of the pressure off him.
[02:16:56] This was that shot.
[02:16:57] Damn.
[02:16:58] Okay.
[02:16:59] Nice!
[02:17:00] Dummy!
[02:17:02] Let's go Dummy!
[02:17:03] As a player, just some freedom to go and wreak havoc.
[02:17:07] Let him work it out.
[02:17:09] So they have a silent killer time and time again.
[02:17:13] Like I said, this isn't necessarily reactive.
[02:17:15] Liquid have a game play.
[02:17:16] You can see how they've worked on a lot of these synergies,
[02:17:19] a lot of these set pieces,
[02:17:20] and they're really, really intricate,
[02:17:23] but executed so well.
[02:17:25] And their faith in it, it looks like.
[02:17:26] Willing to put body on the line,
[02:17:28] willing to play behind it,
[02:17:29] which suits this matter very nicely.
[02:17:31] Look at the space that Mini Boos gathered.
[02:17:33] Bloody hell, they've been on this one.
[02:17:35] Hook, line, and sinker.
[02:17:36] That's also going to potentially catch two players and so that's two olds coming up from heretics and bird lined up
[02:17:43] And again that spike and just head the other side of the map here
[02:17:46] That's that's good. Yeah in the pit is
[02:17:49] They still go one of course he does
[02:17:57] This is still his playground and mini-boost keep it in that bay beautiful to win is this
[02:18:06] It is just fantastic to watch a team play like this,
[02:18:11] especially with some of the concerning performances we've seen.
[02:18:15] Looking in total control.
[02:18:19] 7-0 lead, Nats.
[02:18:21] I mean, what an adjustment to find Bo on the second.
[02:18:27] Again, many Bo's tend to bring this aggression.
[02:18:29] I say what he's talking about.
[02:18:32] Some of the experience on display
[02:18:34] from such a young player who's
[02:18:35] I've been through a fairly rough journey.
[02:18:38] Yes.
[02:18:40] God, he was...
[02:18:41] Been the scapegoat a few times, and showing him able to...
[02:18:44] I mean, he was talking when we were discussing previously
[02:18:46] on the post-play, saying, yeah, I'm feeling way more comfortable
[02:18:48] in this roster, and that kind of is, in turn,
[02:18:51] making me more confident to make my own decisions
[02:18:53] and play my own game.
[02:18:56] But you play the game the way that he wants to play,
[02:18:59] as opposed to, again, whether or not
[02:19:00] there was any pressure previously in terms of...
[02:19:03] The system did work for him.
[02:19:04] It is fantastic to see for MiniBoot to find his own footing here and show that he can work in other rosters as well and now on his own he's proving that value there.
[02:19:15] And again, you've got a great IGL to go to, you've got Nats ready to go, building you into a great player, you've got good supporting systems, I mean, Camo's been outstanding, you look at it, it's not all on his shoulders now, there is a lot of strange shared across the team.
[02:19:29] The Heretic's second time out burnt, so needing a solution and needing it now.
[02:19:34] They're watching their chance of Santiago slip through their fingertips here.
[02:19:39] It's almost a dot on the horizon at this point.
[02:19:43] Seven rounds behind Liquid here on behind Nats.
[02:19:51] I'm going to try and manipulate the finances here as best he can.
[02:19:56] There's a scope and only light shields on the other side some investment. Yes
[02:20:01] Camo
[02:20:02] Flash through
[02:20:07] Yes, so hard to pin down these boys you go root then trying to play into this but it's not a single fight
[02:20:13] You're gonna have this is just a shot down. It's all-encompassing liquid
[02:20:19] It's just reading the map so well and again no way to go aggressive. We've seen them
[02:20:23] Back away from some of these stacks here
[02:20:26] They want that gun gone, they want to punish, and it is a clean slate performance, it ends on flawless.
[02:20:34] Scoreline and in round at this point, and as you said, you rarely see those smiles from Nats,
[02:20:38] but he hasn't stopped beaming the whole time. It's got to feel so good after what's been
[02:20:44] an incredibly tough start to the year for them. I think a lot of us have in question marks,
[02:20:48] and how will they backfill such a loss of a player that they have as well, and as it stands.
[02:20:56] So it's sunshine and rainbows?
[02:20:57] Yeah.
[02:21:00] See, Heretic's burning up both timeouts now, so we're effectively in limbo.
[02:21:04] Gotta rely on...
[02:21:07] The calls in game here, come back.
[02:21:10] Forced off very early.
[02:21:12] And still Ultimates to play with here for Heretic.
[02:21:14] Benji, Blue and come back.
[02:21:17] Speaking of Benji...
[02:21:18] I need a hero.
[02:21:19] He was before.
[02:21:22] In a position to potentially do something...
[02:21:25] Filthy here's a test of the reeds once more for liquid
[02:21:29] See it, but it's still gonna do damage cream work from Benji
[02:21:33] At least drop a couple bodies try and put in a shifter himself
[02:21:37] Waiting gonna try and play this out has even spotted the absolute
[02:21:43] It is a 3v3 so for the closest we've seen yet
[02:21:48] Still with an ultimate
[02:21:50] Not much in terms of tools here for liquid but faster work with from purple
[02:21:55] Right here.
[02:21:57] Bully!
[02:21:59] He's sending, but it's trying to actually clear out here.
[02:22:03] Look at this position. Yeah, post plant's still secure, still safe.
[02:22:07] That's towards Long, Q towards that elbow side. Big boy shot!
[02:22:10] What the hell is this?!
[02:22:14] Boo, the 1v3! Can at least behead one of them.
[02:22:17] But he's still got two more to find, and it feels impossible.
[02:22:20] Look at the reposition from Miniboo as well.
[02:22:22] Oh man, this feels brutal.
[02:22:24] They're up and over, he's going to find one.
[02:22:26] Still trying to put on the good fight here.
[02:22:28] Purple plays it as well as he could.
[02:22:31] Time is gone. The clean as Saites continues.
[02:22:36] And we're just getting away.
[02:22:39] Maybe they put some numbers up here, but unfortunately,
[02:22:42] it's not around on the board.
[02:22:44] That's the Liquid!
[02:22:46] Nine for Liquid now.
[02:22:50] Again there, that's just another so well considered approach here maybe running rings, cool, whoo.
[02:22:59] And that's just looking at me just so methodical.
[02:23:05] Just easy pickings for him.
[02:23:10] Round ten, again the finances just shattered on the side of heretics.
[02:23:15] The pit finally invested near for Benji.
[02:23:18] He's got a Guardian to try and make that work.
[02:23:22] That's...
[02:23:24] Trying to catch a Punish on the orb, but...
[02:23:31] We're happy to sit behind this for the time being.
[02:23:34] Can you try and clear through?
[02:23:39] They're kind of regrouping here. Hold on.
[02:23:42] What do they have to even clear into this?
[02:23:45] I mean, Burpo's still got...
[02:23:47] Yeah, I guess? Yeah, okay, so it is on Burpo, he's got one close.
[02:23:51] Camera goes in, but can't get out.
[02:23:53] Come back, gonna deal the first blow, and there we go.
[02:23:56] On top of that, he's gonna force him away,
[02:23:58] but he's still gonna make at least a bit of a fight about this.
[02:24:00] One re-ends, is lucky to be breathing, and it's what it is messy here.
[02:24:04] It's a hundred damage done as well.
[02:24:06] Look at Benji and come back to HP.
[02:24:08] That's now looking to try and find something on the back of this pressure everybody from
[02:24:15] Liquid headed this way as well.
[02:24:17] Oh, shot and a half.
[02:24:19] They're picking away at these brothers but there's still three bodies in this pit.
[02:24:24] This is still a lot to deal with.
[02:24:25] They can try and ignore it.
[02:24:26] They flip the side though.
[02:24:27] You're right.
[02:24:28] Can they control it?
[02:24:30] Still, three players going right towards Miniboo here if they continue on this
[02:24:33] path thing.
[02:24:34] Look at the HP bars again.
[02:24:35] They are low Miniboo.
[02:24:36] Oh, we have got some garners today, man.
[02:24:40] Oh, he's gone back.
[02:24:41] Oh, he's actually breaking their ankles and hearts at this point.
[02:24:45] But I thought that Seeker does a bit of damage,
[02:24:47] dips away, and he ends down to five, man.
[02:24:50] Oh, this is hard to watch,
[02:24:52] Buu trying to once again save the day, but...
[02:24:55] How are you meant to do this one?
[02:24:57] It's quite a re-position for Burpo.
[02:24:59] Oh, he is putting on a real shot here today!
[02:25:04] Take a stand! You're putting on a show!
[02:25:08] Lapid of 10-0!
[02:25:10] Well, it's important games, he said.
[02:25:12] This means the most to him.
[02:25:14] And he is delivering.
[02:25:18] The snowball in full effect now.
[02:25:20] You can see it.
[02:25:22] Some of these rounds where individuals from Liquid
[02:25:25] starting to shine, or continuing, I should say.
[02:25:29] No!
[02:25:29] Hey, what's up, boys?
[02:25:31] What?
[02:25:33] Ha ha ha ha.
[02:25:35] We need to make it the most of this moment.
[02:25:40] Double digits for Liquid.
[02:25:42] The buy is here for Heretic.
[02:25:44] Not much behind this.
[02:25:46] Oh, oh, that's a lot of investment.
[02:25:49] That's a lot of players.
[02:25:51] This is about to be a bloodbath.
[02:25:52] Maybe a massacre re-ends.
[02:25:53] Can't stand the pressure.
[02:25:55] Maybe we'll continue and this guy is on a heater.
[02:25:57] We're going to try and take a little bit of damage on the way up
[02:26:00] Barely scraping by but look at the HP is just about recovering. Let's see how it stands
[02:26:06] He's connected so much there. Oh my god
[02:26:12] That's still gonna work
[02:26:13] They're gonna make up for it 3v2 Benji and come back clear the front side
[02:26:17] They've got to know that they buy the slip towards long. They're going around the world. Can they put that together fast enough?
[02:26:23] Happen this way. I'm not spotted though. I still a chance, but it's a 1v2 needed required essential
[02:26:30] BOOOOO!
[02:26:34] Maybe the spot they need or maybe just a death rattle of his points.
[02:26:40] The man he tried the best he could there.
[02:26:43] I've seen a couple of broken wrists to adjust here.
[02:26:48] A Red Bull clutch can come back to just find the first.
[02:26:53] And this is again the post-plots have looked so good from Liquid.
[02:26:57] And a number of different situations. Comfortable on the back foot, there's a recovery here. Nobody catching the reposition.
[02:27:09] Come back on the cleanup. Again, finances would have been awful here if they hadn't converted. It's not necessarily great, but still a lifeline.
[02:27:20] Fairly able to scrape by, but still standing until then come back on the hero of last round and that's just...
[02:27:27] That's how it is. It's DM for him. It's a 4v4.
[02:27:32] We can see the double stack.
[02:27:34] As we Benji noted, but they don't know about Boo here.
[02:27:38] Now spotted, now cleared. Oh, it's all too simple.
[02:27:42] Heretics look like they are in pieces as Camo wants to close out this half with a bang!
[02:27:48] It's Mini Boomer close out on 11 to one, Mike.
[02:27:52] This is a one-sided affair.
[02:27:54] Absolute shutdown here from Liquid in the first half.
[02:27:57] Heretics gonna have to dig deep here with elimination on the line.
[02:28:18] I think by with the boo family I hope you guys are enjoying this just as much as we are first of all
[02:28:32] Heisenbrue thank you so much for taking the time to join us you're not watching the game one of
[02:28:38] your brothers is probably going to win I mean 11 to 1 how do you feel right now we're feeling
[02:28:44] feeling very strange, it's new feelings for us.
[02:28:48] Once one team winning the round we are happy, on the other hand we are a little bit sad,
[02:28:56] but we always will follow our family.
[02:29:01] And I'm assuming you guys also must be very proud that both of your brothers are able
[02:29:06] to compete at such a level.
[02:29:08] When it comes to sitting here, supporting them, having all these mixed emotions,
[02:29:13] What are you guys going to do tonight as a family to celebrate?
[02:29:16] Today?
[02:29:18] I think we go for a good dinner.
[02:29:21] Okay, that sounds absolutely good.
[02:29:23] Thank you so much.
[02:29:24] I'm going to let you guys go and enjoy the rest of the match and Casters room will be
[02:29:27] heading back over to you guys.
[02:29:29] Okay, I love the fair.
[02:29:31] Michael, how do we feel?
[02:29:33] Yeah, I mean, get the merch out there.
[02:29:35] Yeah, literally.
[02:29:36] Literally.
[02:29:37] Let's get a little collab going.
[02:29:38] Love that.
[02:29:39] But 11 to 1.
[02:29:41] it is a rare occurrence to see these two in any scenario facing like this but today you've got to
[02:29:46] say it um and by a large margin miniboo is sending a hell of a message yeah absolutely and again
[02:29:53] interested just hear his view on this series overall and to see this performance now again
[02:29:58] you know it means the world to him yeah seeing an 18 and five currently four liquid
[02:30:03] just two rounds away from sealing the deal. Again, it's just so good to see Liquid turn
[02:30:16] around sort of their approach and come back to that same point. Low Ham is discussing and
[02:30:21] finding their identity, looking so cerebral in some of the post plans for me, just
[02:30:26] something to sit back and admire time and time again, taking the initiative and being
[02:30:33] very decisive Benji actually catching a ton of damage there down to just 42
[02:30:40] so it's now stack up towards B3 members of liquid at the spot here from Wayne
[02:30:45] for sure it's gonna be a pretty all-in-hit combat handling Wayne pretty
[02:30:51] well the next layer to this is pretty far behind but heretics
[02:30:54] nicely they call camo to this could be the start of something well spider
[02:30:59] night now and they have to reconsider their approach if they thought that get
[02:31:05] away with a freebie but there weren't enough bodies on site to make sure that
[02:31:07] happened yeah they kind of got caught trying to scale out I guess I don't know
[02:31:11] what ended them really maybe a bit of utility or something but it's given
[02:31:15] way yeah rain put them only under window but it didn't fancy whatever it was so
[02:31:21] purple gnats of mini boost still with a chance to break some hearts here
[02:31:25] right this is the scariest factor that hope could be the biggest killer of
[02:31:29] Mini Boop already gonna take down one, it's all right Mini Boop.
[02:31:32] And 11v4 not gonna happen, Heretics!
[02:31:35] Alright, that's the second round.
[02:31:41] You can see Liquid run away with this one just yet.
[02:31:46] See, expecting to see pretty rounded perches in terms of the comeback that's required here for Heretics.
[02:31:52] Kind of pun intended.
[02:31:54] a long road back into bind here see how it maybe bends you're still gonna sit on
[02:32:05] the pistol just maybe be on the sheriff on the other side so very very purchase
[02:32:12] purple I think maybe even denied what he would have wanted there and it looks
[02:32:16] like they want to get this one done just gonna go in there actually done a
[02:32:19] a good deal of damage there, that's what you put on notice, 31 HP. So it can get a bit
[02:32:24] dangerous, that's the only scary thing, if Boo wants to keep that Bulldog rather than
[02:32:28] switching it out, but again...
[02:32:30] Benz you're doing his best in that cosplay.
[02:32:32] That's doing the same thing, funny enough.
[02:32:35] Oh god, can we just...
[02:32:38] You are not wrong, these are opposing vipers.
[02:32:40] The timing's everything here. He's heard this, here we go. Here comes the call.
[02:32:45] doesn't quite get the kill so that should be green light to go they should be
[02:32:49] comfortable now and again you've got Benji in a deep position you should be
[02:32:53] playing I don't say safe but again it is only a ghost but at this point you
[02:32:57] kind of need to build finances and a bit of confidence too as you can tell the
[02:33:01] confidence with liquid will be sky-high so again just trying to
[02:33:04] mitigate any of that potential threat
[02:33:08] you have liquid again you don't want to give away any extra progress on top
[02:33:12] of initially a couple of rounds here that they may concede. Thanks Rhian to come back, still
[02:33:20] behind halfway in terms of progress. Not anybody's going to go hunting here, maybe Rhian's.
[02:33:26] We only have the pistols so.
[02:33:28] Yeah, switched out with Ben for you so.
[02:33:31] Went for it fair enough. Swinging a miss on that front and MiniBoo wants to actually
[02:33:34] start building a little bit closer towards the O. Nothing they know that this one's
[02:33:39] pretty secure. So Liquid gonna give it up to the spike. No issues on that front.
[02:33:44] And then we look forward. So Heretics up to three.
[02:33:49] Right on back in will be an advantage here for Liquid.
[02:33:55] You can see obviously Liquid's performance is here over the years. Again, the biggest criticism
[02:34:00] being is kind of converting the domestic results into an international title and
[02:34:06] establishing that consistency. But a long one with us, that's obviously being one of them.
[02:34:14] It's one of those where it's again how many times we have such high hopes for these teams
[02:34:18] and then going as said internationally and then it just right falling away from them. But
[02:34:24] at this point, a whole new look to this roster. A pacey start for Heretics. Yane! Simple instance,
[02:34:32] but it works well that denies that early start from comeback so you're not going to get that same sort of
[02:34:37] I guess security in the post-bond I'm looking at my insta round man he's he's trying to keep some real
[02:34:41] space he's done very well
[02:34:45] okay that's it it's gonna be fun wow I thought there was no indicator about that but maybe
[02:34:50] just all too aware knows all too much there's rance benji and woot feel like they're losing
[02:34:55] out to ghosts here you're barely seeing players and again you turn around and suddenly benji's
[02:35:01] And now there's a flying player in front of you!
[02:35:03] Come on! Come on!
[02:35:05] It's on four, so you're breaking it!
[02:35:08] You barely saw them that round.
[02:35:10] Again, that's the sort of round we saw Liquid replicate time and time again on the attacking side.
[02:35:17] It's these split second decisions.
[02:35:23] And landing the execution perfectly.
[02:35:26] Also, these are in rounds where you can traditionally liquid, you know, get the first blood, get a second kill on that, sit back, force an error, wait for...
[02:35:36] This is... this is... come back to sampling with A, bro.
[02:35:42] I love it, Wayne.
[02:35:43] Wayne slipping into the edge of the edge.
[02:35:45] Very quickly.
[02:35:46] We love this.
[02:35:48] Okay.
[02:35:49] Well, bringing it back into the room.
[02:35:52] This is elimination.
[02:35:53] We told you before, we'll tell you again, it's three rounds,
[02:35:55] it's probably the longest road the Heretics could take
[02:35:58] to get any chance of it.
[02:36:00] Roots trying, he's putting up some numbers,
[02:36:02] but Nats is walking out, he's taking out the world!
[02:36:06] Oh my god!
[02:36:07] Oh my god!
[02:36:09] He goes it down, 13-3!
[02:36:13] Team Liquid look terrifying!
[02:36:15] Well done!
[02:36:17] Like I said, the story of momentum and confidence
[02:36:21] for this roster now.
[02:36:22] certainly setting the standards in terms of what we want to see for Liquid going forward, but
[02:36:31] again coming back to that same sort of discussion around identity, it's clear,
[02:36:36] it's very, very obvious how Liquid want to proceed here.
[02:36:41] Yeah, I'm so impressed with how they look today in comparison to before, and I have to say as well
[02:36:46] map one for Heretics, they also looked fantastic. I liked the ball swaps, I liked how they came
[02:36:52] out. I like the confidence with it. They put on a great display here today. They put in a shift.
[02:36:57] You can see the work. You can see it tangibly on a bus. It just simply wasn't there. I think that's
[02:37:03] the fairest way to put it. The potential on this team is still sky-high. We need to see them.
[02:37:09] In terms of the switch-up, Peer probably got the wind knocked out of them in terms of the
[02:37:12] Liquid's approach to this series. Obviously, Mini Boot top in the charts here in the second
[02:37:18] map that's not too far behind but no one just a scary scary combination I mean
[02:37:24] camo map one but then that's mini-boo map to
[02:37:28] a huge step in the right direction I think they look my day to me
[02:37:35] absolutely and again another watch to that again we want to see them continue with
[02:37:42] this consistency always been the historic discussion with liquid
[02:37:46] I mean, if that isn't to go by, I'm so excited to watch them this year.
[02:37:50] Well, yeah, God, if you think, if they get, even if you just start looking at getting, okay, mini-boo online, cool.
[02:37:55] Okay, well, if Camo starts having that level of points, oh, wait, we got Wayne in the mix.
[02:37:58] You can go down this whole roster and get really excited by it, right?
[02:38:02] Learning the map, Paul, looking at how comfortable they feel on agents.
[02:38:06] But they're not in Santiago yet, right?
[02:38:08] They still have a road to be walking.
[02:38:10] And we're not going to be talking to you about it or kind of talking to them even about it.
[02:38:15] it will be over on the post plan. So do stick around and do stay tuned.
[02:38:23] Welcome everybody to the post plant. We are awaiting the players, but you have your pen and
[02:38:28] paper out. You're taking it very seriously, which I'm really proud and happy to see.
[02:38:37] Performative male final boss, okay?
[02:38:39] This is how you look intelligent you hold a pen have the paper ready you have to have it upside down
[02:38:46] Of course, yeah, but no one can tell cuz my legs in the way like I've come prepared. Do you go to coffee shops with books and
[02:38:52] I don't like coffee. Okay, not performative enough. No, no, no. Macha? No, no. I know I knew that would upset you the second I said it.
[02:39:01] That's like that's your persona, isn't it?
[02:39:04] It is!
[02:39:05] Macho Flutties!
[02:39:06] We have to talk about...
[02:39:09] Do you guys want to say that in the microphone by any chance?
[02:39:12] I've just been shouted by Mike.
[02:39:14] Yeah, it is what it is.
[02:39:15] The players will join us there.
[02:39:17] No, you guys are welcome to join.
[02:39:18] Come on up.
[02:39:20] Stand by.
[02:39:22] I promise you.
[02:39:23] We need them.
[02:39:24] We need them.
[02:39:26] Thank you.
[02:39:27] We're talking about Macho.
[02:39:28] I don't need that.
[02:39:30] Okay, Hater.
[02:39:31] Well, my brother.
[02:39:33] What?
[02:39:34] Alright, welcome guys.
[02:39:36] Thank you so much for joining us.
[02:39:38] Meaboo, I'm gonna start with you.
[02:39:40] Your entire family was sitting here,
[02:39:42] watching.
[02:39:43] Did you have to beat him so bad on that last map?
[02:39:46] You could have let him have a little bit of a chance.
[02:39:49] Honestly, I was just having fun.
[02:39:51] I didn't know who I was playing against.
[02:39:55] I was just destroying.
[02:39:56] But after the game, when I saw their faces,
[02:39:58] faces honestly like I felt bad I don't know like inside the game I mean I didn't feel bad
[02:40:07] you said going into this game that even though it's their map pick it was going to be even
[02:40:11] better than Abyss you kept true to that word how did you know that was going to be the case
[02:40:15] because I knew the comp you're gonna play I knew that I'm gonna play Neon with Camille being
[02:40:21] gone waylay so you know that was expected yeah let's bring up the neon stats specifically
[02:40:27] because Tom you highlighted earlier as well when we were watching saying that
[02:40:30] oh there's the first time that we're the only guy yeah no one plays neon on this map
[02:40:34] why why why the neon because I guess that I'm good on the owner we play to
[02:40:40] our strength okay we've heard it a lot actually from the coaches wall saying
[02:40:45] that you guys are playing to your strikes just feel like this conversation
[02:40:47] of identity and strength with liquid is something we've been having over the
[02:40:51] last couple of weeks so to say here it came off how has it been for you as
[02:40:55] as well, over progressing from week into week into week
[02:40:59] to see the change and to see the team improve
[02:41:01] and just in general, all these positivity coming out.
[02:41:05] I mean, I think you usually start working the moment
[02:41:08] you know what the system and the team works, I think,
[02:41:12] because that's usually what happens for the kickoff
[02:41:15] and for most of the teams who change the load,
[02:41:16] they try to understand around what they need to play,
[02:41:19] what is the win conditions.
[02:41:20] And I think first games, especially with Wayne
[02:41:23] not being here with not having the opportunity to practice with him, it took a lot of time.
[02:41:28] And I think right now, game by game, we're just trying to... we're understanding us more
[02:41:33] and more and we're just playing the game that we enjoy to play.
[02:41:36] So last year, I don't know if you remember, you were in kickoff, you went into the
[02:41:41] lower bracket.
[02:41:42] Do you remember how many games in a row you won?
[02:41:44] I mean, we lost to foot in our place and we... I think we won seven.
[02:41:52] I think it was 5 in a row.
[02:41:54] 5 in a row? I think, are you sure? I think it was more, no?
[02:41:56] Because I think it's the same this year.
[02:41:58] It's the same amount that you need to win again.
[02:42:00] 5 in a row.
[02:42:01] I remember in Kiko who played the maximum amount of games that possible last year.
[02:42:06] But it feels like we never find the easy ways.
[02:42:08] Yeah, it feels like, I was just, someone was asking me a few days ago.
[02:42:12] Yes, would you like it to be easy? I just, I don't know what is easy.
[02:42:16] It's just every single, even when it was in Gambit, we always would drop the lowers.
[02:42:20] Somehow we would always drop the lowers.
[02:42:22] Yeah, for sure. Well, do you just like to give as much viewership to the fans as possible?
[02:42:25] They get to come and see you.
[02:42:27] I'll get the reps in.
[02:42:28] Yeah, I'm not sure why I did like that though, but it feels like, I mean, it's more interesting
[02:42:32] rather than just having an upper bracket run and finishing in three, four games.
[02:42:36] Yeah, for sure. What did... Coming up next, obviously, there's two teams that you've already played.
[02:42:41] That's going to be the option to be the fanatic of Vitality.
[02:42:44] I can't ask this to both of you. Is there any preference of who you would like to be playing?
[02:42:49] Anyone you want revenge on, I guess is a better question.
[02:42:52] Was this the toughest one then? Was heretics the one you most wanted to beat?
[02:42:59] I think in whole QQF I just wanted to play heretics and none of the other teams mattered.
[02:43:05] Now, I don't care.
[02:43:07] But you have to care because you're still in the lower bracket, right?
[02:43:10] Like tag, that's like it.
[02:43:12] It's nothing, I don't know.
[02:43:14] Okay, but is there any more?
[02:43:15] I mean because we played a lot of finals last year against them and they're just like one team to play.
[02:43:20] Yeah.
[02:43:21] I'm not sure, I think I'll say just Vitality, just because we didn't play them with the full roster.
[02:43:26] Okay.
[02:43:26] I'm actually excited for their game.
[02:43:27] Chronicle playing against past team, that's going to be very interesting.
[02:43:31] Who's the better Sentinel?
[02:43:34] I really remember he told me before the game that...
[02:43:38] I said, so this is my exact quote, I said I'm going to put Nats in C,
[02:43:43] because he's not played as good as I know Nats can play.
[02:43:45] And then today you absolutely destroyed them, so I'm taking like 50% of the credit.
[02:43:49] Okay. Thank you so much.
[02:43:52] He did that personally.
[02:43:53] You're talking about now that you have the full roster going up against Vitality,
[02:43:56] potentially if they, you know, drop into that lower bracket.
[02:43:59] Wayne as well has been a player that we've highlighted a lot coming into these games,
[02:44:03] especially because last week he said that he's not very comfortable playing under this pressure.
[02:44:07] It's not good for his health, he said.
[02:44:09] How has it been for you guys playing with Wayne in this lower bracket?
[02:44:12] What has been the guidance that you've been able to give him
[02:44:15] to actually allow him to perform so consistently as well?
[02:44:19] I think it's a lot about just the learning and just helping him here and there because
[02:44:25] I mean you're coming to the VCT right and there is not much you can give to the person
[02:44:32] you need to let the person express himself first rather than you will push him to do that.
[02:44:37] I don't think that's the way you want to work with the athletes.
[02:44:42] So we're letting him express himself, he understands himself more how he feels himself
[02:44:47] here so we can help him more in the future.
[02:44:49] Well, I mean, we give him some advice as to make his life a little bit easier with the
[02:44:54] whole preparation process and preparing on the stage also.
[02:44:57] Do you think you'll continue forward with all the double-jewel stuff now?
[02:45:01] Because it seemed like today that was kind of nasty, like everything that was going
[02:45:05] on in the server.
[02:45:06] I think you and Camo, especially, it looked like considering they changed one player
[02:45:11] and this is obviously a brand new team, you and Camo seem to have a lot of synergy
[02:45:15] almost comparatively, where they may be struggled a little bit more.
[02:45:19] Yeah, I think like me and Camille have good synergy together
[02:45:22] and I enjoy playing double duelist with him.
[02:45:25] And about the question moving forward, like honestly, I think we don't know yet.
[02:45:30] Like, you know, like when the time comes, like, you're going to solve that,
[02:45:35] you know, question, maybe you're going to go double duelist,
[02:45:37] maybe not like who knows, you know.
[02:45:38] Triple duelist?
[02:45:39] Maybe.
[02:45:41] Let's go five at that point.
[02:45:42] Yeah, but who gets Wele?
[02:45:43] I... You get Wele.
[02:45:45] I'm the only one who has champ experience on this.
[02:45:47] Oh, okay.
[02:45:50] That's how it's been decided.
[02:45:52] Alright, well, thank you guys so much for joining us.
[02:45:54] It's all for the post plan.
[02:45:55] And thank you for those of you at home as well for watching.
[02:45:57] We're going to be saying goodbye, so I do hope you guys enjoy the Razor End of the Highlights
[02:46:02] and we'll see you tomorrow.
[02:46:45] Oh, come on again!
[02:46:48] Ooh, but not to the angle!
[02:46:50] He's gonna do it all now!
[02:46:52] He's not going around!
[02:46:53] Once again!
[02:46:55] Straight there it is!
[02:46:57] Come on!
[02:46:58] Wait!
[02:46:59] I've reached today!
[02:47:03] What an absolute mad game from this man!
[02:47:15] Take it a second guess is trying to play it with the time here. That's might be on for an absolute heating it plays
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[02:51:15] Bust it be or she won't
[02:51:17] All the pain is on me
[02:51:18] Oh my love, I'm not a bad man
[02:51:21] I'm not a bad man
[02:51:23] Look at us
[02:51:26] I'm so bad at sight
[02:51:27] I'm so bad at boss
[02:51:28] I'm so bad at
[02:51:30] I'm so bad at sight
[02:51:31] I'm so boss
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[02:51:34] I'm so bad at sight
[02:51:35] I'm so boss
[02:51:36] I'm so bad at
[02:51:38] I'm so bad at sight
[02:51:40] Told ya
[02:51:41] I can only see you