!DROPS, CLASSIC FOREVER BETA | THEORYCRAFTING, EXPLORING, PVPING, ALT TODAY FOR SURE!

Xaryu

09-25-2026 · 8h 10m

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[00:17:00] Good morning chat and happy Friday guys we are back with another day of the beta guys

[00:17:16] add-ons are working the memory leak is fixed apparently there's a million disconnects though

[00:17:21] so that sucks but I'm excited to play today and since yesterday we were doing reacts all

[00:17:27] day long today I think we're skipping reacts and hopping into some actual game play um

[00:17:33] yesterday we tested some specs frost is definitely the way to go fire and arcane not so much um

[00:17:40] but a little bit of river glade exploration world pvp duels and then it's alt time okay then it's

[00:17:47] alt time then it's alt time but not yet no well yet later today hey sorry you undead

[00:17:55] It's going to be Skyborne, I think.

[00:17:57] I don't really want to make a Skyborne,

[00:17:59] but I really want to test the new zone

[00:18:02] so I can have a better opinion on it.

[00:18:05] So I'm going to do Skyborne

[00:18:07] just so I can test the new zone

[00:18:09] and have a better opinion on it.

[00:18:13] So, yeah. Fire buffs.

[00:18:15] I don't like the changes.

[00:18:17] They need reworks.

[00:18:19] What I'm sorry about Upcurds,

[00:18:21] what are you most excited for in the level 30 cap?

[00:18:23] the dueling tourney that we're hosting. I can't wait. I literally can't wait.

[00:18:29] He sounds so deflated saying that. The fire buffs, yeah.

[00:18:34] Skyborne mage? No, we're not going to a mage. I'll do anything except a mage. Skyborne and

[00:18:38] then anything else. It'll probably be Skyborne Warrior, realistically.

[00:18:49] Have you seen this eco clip? I think I know which one you're talking about, yeah.

[00:18:53] I thought it was a horde tourney

[00:18:57] We're gonna have more discussions on it, but it probably will be horde. Yeah

[00:19:01] Putting points in the M shield block is this for warrior 10 to 14 fo sho

[00:19:09] Where my ancestors from German French and Polish and Mexican

[00:19:15] Makes me sad the sky born ratios are so meh

[00:19:17] Yeah, I was actually thinking about that

[00:19:19] But it's actually better that the sky born ratios are not that good and hear me out if the sky born ratios were OP

[00:19:27] people would be

[00:19:29] Enraged that the game is pay to win

[00:19:32] Because you had to buy the new race because they're OP so it's actually in a weird way good that they're not very good

[00:19:41] As weird as it is to say that it's actually good that they suck because it's like

[00:19:46] Like, okay, pay to lose, at least that's good for now.

[00:19:50] Maybe change them later, but it's actually kind of weirdly good.

[00:20:01] The WoW tokens pay to win?

[00:20:03] Yeah, hopefully they don't have that, that'd be awful.

[00:20:07] Have you tried LSDM or UI?

[00:20:08] It has a full classic UI mode and you can disable everything else?

[00:20:11] No, I have not tried that.

[00:20:14] That's like an add-on.

[00:20:16] Yeah, no, I haven't tried this one.

[00:20:28] I think I was actually tweaking my UI this morning.

[00:20:30] I think I'm actually kind of happy with it.

[00:20:33] I update, if you guys are in my Discord, we have an add-ons and macros section in the

[00:20:41] the Discord right here, and I'm using a handful of add-ons.

[00:20:46] The one that's like the UI add-on is Better Blizz Frames.

[00:20:51] I think I'm kind of happy with it for now.

[00:20:54] What this add-on does is it gives me the old frame, it gives me the old minimap, and it

[00:20:57] gives me the old CAS bar.

[00:20:59] Those are probably the biggest complaints that I have, and it fixes all three in a very

[00:21:03] lightweight and easy way.

[00:21:05] So I'll probably just use that, because to be honest, I actually really like the new

[00:21:08] action bars.

[00:21:09] I don't know if I want to say really like but I think they look pretty darn good and like I

[00:21:14] Don't know these menus don't bother me all too much for the most part. I think they're okay

[00:21:19] So I don't know if I like care to like have every new menu and stuff like that

[00:21:23] But like I think just the old cascars unit frames and stuff like that is like fine, you know

[00:21:28] So I think I'll probably just do this

[00:21:31] Is the portrait change I'm using an add-on and

[00:21:34] All my add-ons are updated in discord now, so that's cool

[00:21:37] You're gonna do the dual tourney I'm gonna be hosting it man. It'll be right here on my channel

[00:21:43] I'll be casting and hosting with as fan. I believe as fan will also be streaming it and

[00:21:48] I'm very excited to put that on man. I actually can't wait. I actually can't wait link your discord sure linked it

[00:21:56] You're the best streamer. Love you glad you enjoy the channel man

[00:21:59] You think in she is gonna be necessary for the dual tourney? Mmm

[00:22:02] if I had to guess in she and a

[00:22:04] Tailoring, leatherworking, or blacksmithing will be best, like you want to make the best gear, but you also want the nades.

[00:22:12] Why is the tourney horde when horde is gross? I don't know, you have to play horde reliance, it doesn't, I don't, don't really see that big of an issue.

[00:22:20] Have you seen the paddlemage video? Yeah, it's hilarious.

[00:22:24] You look great since your last mugshot. Thanks, bro.

[00:22:29] They removed the ledge where you jump to ubers, really? That's funny. It's forever feeling good.

[00:22:34] Oh, it's feeling so good

[00:22:38] Hey guys, hey frag what's up, man. Thanks for the four months up

[00:22:45] Would you want forever to have higher res skyboxes I think it looks fun

[00:22:51] Alt today. Yeah later

[00:22:53] They fixed stock cage kiting in the stairs at the start. That's probably a good thing as much as it was silly

[00:22:58] Happy Friday may so so it's good

[00:23:00] Casting the dual tourney is how I found your channel. That's hype. Our

[00:23:05] consumables gonna be banned from the dueling tourney. We'll put out an

[00:23:09] official, we'll put out an official rule set for the tourney soon. It'll

[00:23:17] probably be in the next two weeks. We have a lot of work to do on that. And when I

[00:23:22] say we, I mean tips. And some, and as fan means soda probably, but yeah.

[00:23:30] Um

[00:23:32] Wait a step from swirly man saying I used to watch all the time died three to four I had kids three four years ago and completely dropped off

[00:23:39] Kiddo is bigger. So I'm getting back on to my gaming hobbies. That's awesome, man

[00:23:42] Um, I totally feel that dude life is different with a little one. That's that's cool

[00:23:49] Astral thanks for the prime river hole watch the alanda video I did it was incredible

[00:23:54] Legacy points and attorney that's a point of discussion

[00:24:00] Turnies in three weeks. The rule should be up sooner. What we can officially say is do

[00:24:14] everything you can to prepare for the turni if you're in the turni. Like literally just

[00:24:18] do everything you can because as of right now nothing is against the rules. All bets

[00:24:25] are off. We will come out with a rule set as soon as we can. But as of right now, assume

[00:24:33] nothing is banned. Do you see my improved ice block idea and the donation a few days ago?

[00:24:40] It was during your mage council and you had TTS off. Yeah, sorry about the TTS off. I

[00:24:46] actually have, I usually keep TTS on, but I've had to turn it off here and there because

[00:24:53] Because when we're doing stuff like that, if I don't turn it off, it'll just constantly

[00:24:58] be going.

[00:25:01] I did not see the Ice Block idea, no.

[00:25:03] I think Ice Block's fine as is, though, so I don't think it needs changes.

[00:25:05] BlueDream, thanks for the two of you, I love the podcast, excited for the forever content.

[00:25:10] Thanks, man.

[00:25:13] Need to cap Slumber Sand.

[00:25:19] I don't want to give any official ruling away because I literally don't know, but there

[00:25:24] is a very high chance that Slumber Sand will be not allowed in the dueling tourney.

[00:25:31] But don't take it from me yet because we don't know yet, but there's a very high chance

[00:25:35] that that will not be allowed because it's just not fun to watch.

[00:25:40] You think they'll give us Living Bomb from Age?

[00:25:43] Probably not, no.

[00:25:45] But Tori, hope you're doing well as well.

[00:25:52] Available legacy points aren't a bug.

[00:25:53] I think you can get them at level 20 if you hit 150 Profs.

[00:25:59] It's Zaryu's birthday week, I guess so.

[00:26:02] Are you going to do an add-on video like you did for Classic?

[00:26:07] I can, but at this point I'm using so few add-ons.

[00:26:14] This is my add-on list for Classic and TBC, which overall is still kind of short.

[00:26:25] These are my weak auras for Classic, which overall isn't like that bad.

[00:26:30] These are my retail ones, pretty short, forever, even shorter.

[00:26:34] My forever and retail ones look the same about because, surprise, surprise, it's on the same

[00:26:39] code base, so it's super short.

[00:26:41] I literally don't really use any that would need a video to explain it.

[00:26:46] It's like, I use Bagonator because I like to move my bags.

[00:26:51] I use better Blizz Frames because I like the old frames.

[00:26:54] You know what I mean?

[00:26:55] I don't know.

[00:26:56] I could, but it's just like, I don't know if it even needs a video.

[00:27:02] What do you think of Alice Mirror UI?

[00:27:03] It supports a classic art style now.

[00:27:05] I haven't tried that one.

[00:27:07] Maybe I'll have to give it a try.

[00:27:08] I like the better Blizz add-ons a lot because they're like super lightweight, but I maybe

[00:27:14] have to try that one too.

[00:27:16] Yo, what up, Gagli?

[00:27:25] I appreciate your positive attitude.

[00:27:26] Thanks, man.

[00:27:27] LOSMIR is biz, is it?

[00:27:28] Okay.

[00:27:29] I

[00:27:35] Was mirrors like Lfi, but apparently they have a lot of mirrors like a classic setting. I don't know

[00:27:41] It's crazy like wait for the utility. Well, I don't maybe I'll need to check it out. I haven't checked it out

[00:27:48] Letrics not on saving yet. Yeah, they're fixed

[00:27:54] Do you know where we'll find the formal post about the tourney

[00:27:59] The rule set and stuff? It'll probably be on TIPS's Twitter.

[00:28:04] And Esfan's Twitter. I don't really use Twitter but I'll try to retweet the important stuff on my Twitter.

[00:28:10] Do I own any other shirts? This same one and like 10 of them.

[00:28:13] You have a nice widows peak, I'm jealous. Really? I've actually hated my

[00:28:17] widows peak my whole life pretty much so I don't know if I've ever even heard that so

[00:28:22] thanks man. Have you seen the

[00:28:25] quite good AI upscaled new HD models for forever on Reddit? Nah.

[00:28:29] I don't

[00:28:32] I just like the old models men are fine

[00:28:38] The widows peak fits you thanks, bro

[00:28:42] Why didn't you ask Josh for manatecks on the podcast okay?

[00:28:45] I was thinking about this at breakfast this morning because I think there was maybe some community confusion here for good reason

[00:28:52] I'm not blaming you guys. I think people thought the podcast

[00:28:57] podcast was a place for me to ask for changes. I didn't see it that way. I saw the podcast

[00:29:07] as a place to talk about the launch. I have other places to talk about changes. There's

[00:29:16] official channels for that. I wasn't on the podcast to be like, this is my wishlist, please

[00:29:21] give me this. That wasn't the place nor the time. I think I read the room correctly that

[00:29:29] that's not the place to ask for changes and to want to oh by the way can you do this that's

[00:29:34] not the place guys. I have a place for that and we can chat with the devs and stuff like

[00:29:38] that which is awesome but that's not the place. But everyone I saw a lot of people saying like

[00:29:43] oh why didn't you do this it's like brother that it's not the place on a podcast. If you

[00:29:47] get invited to a podcast the last thing you should do is start whining about all the stuff

[00:29:51] you want feel that's weird anyway that was that was kind of my when I was

[00:30:00] trying to like read the room okay not the we're talking about the launch you

[00:30:03] know but that doesn't mean we also can't you know shout about other stuff

[00:30:12] Um, hey, what up, Stingon?

[00:30:26] Sardaco, what's up, man?

[00:30:30] Enjoyed the podcast?

[00:30:31] Hey, glad you enjoyed.

[00:30:32] Hey, Sardaco, how's the, how the stream's been going?

[00:30:34] Because I know, like, I know how it is trying to stream multiple games and this and that.

[00:30:38] How are the Runescapers liking forever?

[00:30:40] How are you liking it?

[00:30:41] the how's the audience liking it is it it seems like every time I tune in it seems

[00:30:45] like it's doing pretty well at least like pretty solid people seem to be

[00:30:49] they're loving it cool cool I'm glad to hear that I'm glad I'm really glad to

[00:30:54] hear that really really really glad to hear that that's that's great because I

[00:31:00] yeah it's just like definitely a very little concerned on it

[00:31:06] Yeah

[00:31:09] Can we rewatch the podcast it's on the warcraft youtube channel, but like I don't want to watch it because I don't like watching myself I

[00:31:20] Wonder what the numbers will look like for retail classic and hardcore now that everyone's playing the beta

[00:31:24] If you want a decent idea

[00:31:27] This is hilarious. These are the TVC player numbers this past week

[00:31:31] They went from 226,000 weekly Raiders, Beta got announced, 137, 50% drop-off almost,

[00:31:41] well not quite 50, 40 or something, percent drop-off in the first week.

[00:31:48] So that's TBC.

[00:31:49] Like it's going to be, I think there's going to be a massive falling out on every other

[00:31:53] version of WoW for a while, which is like expected.

[00:31:56] Like you would assume that if Forever is going to do as well as we all think it is, then

[00:32:01] of course this is expected like all the players are funneling over

[00:32:05] if it sucks and people will go back and do what they wanted anyway so we'll see

[00:32:08] long-term i don't know but short term yeah it's gonna be pretty rough for

[00:32:11] everything else

[00:32:18] and

[00:32:22] i compared it in the pocket i compare i'm like dude

[00:32:25] you know one of my friend you know

[00:32:26] one of my best friends are you

[00:32:29] I asked him to buy me a steak dinner, he'll never buy me a steak dinner, and I got invited

[00:32:36] from his moderator, he's like, yo, Savics, you guys wanna get breakfast?

[00:32:40] I'm buying everyone in the group, I'm like, oh, you're buying, make sorry, buy that guy's

[00:32:46] a millionaire!

[00:32:47] Bro!

[00:32:48] Oh my, dude, this guy won't find me one steak there.

[00:32:51] Okay, no cap, Savics actually missed the steak dinner, I actually haven't told him this,

[00:32:58] We actually did get a steak dinner, and it was on me, but Savik's wasn't there

[00:33:05] Yeah, I actually I bought peekaboo a steak. I don't why did that I

[00:33:10] Don't what I don't what I was thinking must have been in a good mood that day or something

[00:33:14] Classic forever got announced. I was like, alright, I guess I'm buying peekaboo a steak, but Savik's wasn't there

[00:33:19] So Savik's you missed it, bro. Maybe next year not crazy

[00:33:23] So if you're over here flying out people in his jet plane

[00:33:26] Letting them stay in his it bro. I wish I had a jet plane to get to blizzcon

[00:33:32] I flew into LAX and I'm there for like six hours because of delays and this and that

[00:33:38] Brutal man absolutely brutal the next time we got it. We got to get the jet

[00:33:42] We got to get the jet man. I'm just saying and touching them and giving them a milk and cookie

[00:33:48] And taking them to Disneyland

[00:33:50] All right, this 50 is just

[00:33:53] dude

[00:33:55] I'm gonna I'm gonna be a hater here for a second. Oh my gosh. I don't even know if I want to say this because people are gonna hate me for this

[00:34:06] Disney land is overrated

[00:34:11] Go go I said it I said it

[00:34:16] Okay, there it is

[00:34:18] We won't we don't need to expand on that. Okay. We don't need to expand on that. We don't need to expand on that

[00:34:23] Super... Zahreel. Zahreel.

[00:34:30] You missed the steak dinner Savics.

[00:34:32] So I tell them that. I tell Savty that as a meme. But man the podcast is...

[00:34:38] Oh that's funny. Oh my god.

[00:34:43] Oh a lot of you guys actually agree with me.

[00:34:48] There we go

[00:34:51] There we go

[00:34:55] There we go, okay, um I

[00:35:00] Don't want to do too many react cities

[00:35:02] I actually want to play the game because I never got to play the game yesterday and now that I'm not lagging

[00:35:05] I can actually play the game although there is disconnects

[00:35:09] No lag feels incredible. So

[00:35:11] So yeah

[00:35:13] Hallean, thanks for the prime.

[00:35:14] Casual track, thanks for the five.

[00:35:15] As a father of three and now you being a father,

[00:35:17] I promise you it's not overrated.

[00:35:19] Singer child see Mickey Mouse for the first time

[00:35:21] and him thinking he's real, nothing beats it,

[00:35:23] I promise you.

[00:35:24] Okay, fair enough.

[00:35:26] Maybe one day when we take Kai

[00:35:28] and I see Kai's face light up, you're right, sure.

[00:35:33] Fine, I mean maybe you're right,

[00:35:35] but I haven't had that experience yet.

[00:35:37] But like as a person without that experience

[00:35:42] feels that way.

[00:35:43] But that, the fair point, fair point.

[00:35:46] You had your birthday yesterday?

[00:35:47] Oh, it was Monday.

[00:35:49] My birthday was Monday.

[00:35:50] Reapers, thanks to the Prime Min.

[00:35:52] What's my exact FPS?

[00:35:53] 104.2.

[00:36:01] What time of day do you work out?

[00:36:02] Mornings.

[00:36:03] Joe, thanks for the two of you, one man.

[00:36:09] You still stand by the methods in your fitness guide 2.0?

[00:36:12] The methodology and philosophy, yeah, almost exactly from like forever ago. Yeah, the stuff in there is pretty timeless. I would say I have like

[00:36:22] Changed like minor stuff here and there definitely but in terms of the overall philosophy. Yeah

[00:36:27] Yeah. Please test PVP crit damage.

[00:36:39] I brought this to other streamers.

[00:36:40] We need your sponsor Blizzard PVP crit damage.

[00:36:42] What do you mean seems fine?

[00:36:46] What's my average latency look like like 60 on the beta?

[00:36:50] Get Ella's mere classic UI.

[00:36:52] Everyone is telling me to download this. I think I'm pretty happy with my current setup

[00:37:00] but just because so many people have told me, maybe I'll download it just to see what it looks like.

[00:37:04] Ella's Mirror. Is it just Ella's Mirror? Oh, do you need a secondary add-on like the classic one

[00:37:14] or something or just just the main one? Just the top one?

[00:37:22] Yeah, I'll try it. Like I said, I think I'm really happy with my current setup.

[00:37:26] But just because people are telling me, let's see how blown away we are.

[00:37:35] My eyes.

[00:37:44] There's a classic setting? I know I'm looking for it man.

[00:37:57] Okay.

[00:38:02] Lizard? Classic WoW UI.

[00:38:14] I'm not sure what it is.

[00:38:21] Wait.

[00:38:24] Oh, it doesn't change any of this, but like, yeah, it changes this and that, and that map

[00:38:38] and everything.

[00:38:39] Yeah, I mean, it looks nice, guys.

[00:38:40] It looks nice.

[00:38:41] I mean, I'm not, I'm not saying it doesn't look like.

[00:38:43] Yeah, uh, yeah, you know what, I can say, honestly,

[00:38:46] that I did give it a solid try there.

[00:38:49] Now let's take that back off,

[00:38:50] because I mean, I like my stuff a little lighter way.

[00:38:53] Better blizz frames, better blizz plates,

[00:38:55] probably not gonna be using.

[00:38:56] Yeah, gave it a solid look there.

[00:38:59] And we're, oh no, oh gosh.

[00:39:03] I'm borked.

[00:39:11] Ah, much better.

[00:39:12] Oh no, what happened?

[00:39:15] Ah, crap.

[00:39:17] What's all this?

[00:39:19] Oh no, guys, you ruined my whole setup.

[00:39:22] You trolls.

[00:39:23] Okay, I think, I'll face him.

[00:39:26] Yeah, it's probably fine, it's probably fine.

[00:39:35] Oh, wait, did they add a,

[00:39:39] did they add this or is that what my add on doing,

[00:39:41] that large?

[00:39:42] Wait, guys, did they fix the thingy?

[00:39:48] No, is that my add-on?

[00:39:51] They added this?

[00:39:52] There's new nameplates?

[00:39:53] Oh, wow!

[00:39:54] I'm going to turn up better Blizzplates.

[00:40:02] I'm impressed!

[00:40:04] Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's not, okay, no, that's not how it's...

[00:40:11] Okay, no, no, no, no, no, it wasn't my add on doing that.

[00:40:16] Okay, nope.

[00:40:25] No, that's not right.

[00:40:26] Oh gosh, now it's all borked again.

[00:40:30] Oh gosh.

[00:40:34] Oh, guys, you ruined my whole setup twice.

[00:40:37] I think, I'm gonna go check,

[00:40:38] I think it's probably fine if I go here.

[00:40:40] Anyway, oh no, what's this?

[00:40:42] All my stuff is just completely,

[00:40:45] there we go.

[00:40:47] I think we're, I think we're,

[00:40:48] I'm gonna go check the nameplate,

[00:40:49] I think we're good now.

[00:40:54] Oh no, three more hours from the fixes UI.

[00:40:56] Guys, I started the stream this morning

[00:40:58] with a dialed in UI.

[00:41:00] It's actually why I was a little late to stream today

[00:41:01] because I was working on my UI for like,

[00:41:03] an hour this morning.

[00:41:05] I'm such a, yeah, perfect.

[00:41:06] Yeah, see that?

[00:41:07] See that guys?

[00:41:08] Better Liz Brains, it just makes them into the old ones, perfectly.

[00:41:12] Yeah, uh-huh. Very nice, very nice.

[00:41:16] You know, the setting is on TBC, like Blizzard has the setting on TBC and they have the setting on Classic Era.

[00:41:20] I don't see why they use the same thing on this one.

[00:41:24] It's just the normal, you know, whatever.

[00:41:27] The rain though. What do you guys think of the rain?

[00:41:30] I actually love it, but then it's like, as I look at it more, it's like, is it overdone?

[00:41:34] Is there a setting to turn it down?

[00:41:37] It's actually like I

[00:41:40] Don't know which setting is the rain here. It's almost too much, right?

[00:41:47] Does it am I crazy here is it almost too much?

[00:41:51] Like it's pretty cool

[00:41:54] Weather density, oh, where's that like I wouldn't mind turning the weather density down a tad

[00:42:01] Now I don't want it to zero I like it, but it's just like a little too much

[00:42:04] It's like milk Sarnako says it's cool, but definitely too much

[00:42:12] particle density

[00:42:16] So my particle density is high is that it maybe I put it the fair did that change anything disable

[00:42:25] Ultra

[00:42:27] All right, it is particle density. So right now. Maybe I'll put it the fair

[00:42:31] It lightens the rain a little bit on fair, but it's still, I don't know.

[00:42:38] I have to say overall it's pretty cool though.

[00:42:43] You can't even see the mobs, that's the point you're not supposed to.

[00:42:46] It's raining outside bro.

[00:42:47] You're not supposed to understand anything that's going on.

[00:42:53] A mirror's back in the shot, what's up man?

[00:42:54] You know Critchard did 1.5 damage instead of 2x.

[00:42:58] That owns rogues, warriors, mages.

[00:43:00] It's likely to have to repeat some retail.

[00:43:01] I believe the 1.5x crit modifier is intended, but I will double check for you.

[00:43:09] I believe it's intended, but I will double check.

[00:43:15] Questions is...

[00:43:18] Tooltip says one.

[00:43:24] It says 200.

[00:43:25] The tooltip for me says 50% more.

[00:43:28] So 150.

[00:43:29] But I will double-check

[00:43:38] 1.5 for spells to for melee that's always been the case in classic, okay

[00:43:43] Spells have always been 150

[00:43:45] Yeah, it's the game too dark. I

[00:43:48] Mean the game is cozy as heck

[00:43:50] I don't like you can probably swap up some of your like settings with like

[00:43:56] Like, what's the thing that's making it dark?

[00:43:58] Like shadows or something?

[00:44:00] I don't know.

[00:44:07] Secondary lighting I have on fair.

[00:44:10] Gamma.

[00:44:11] Contrast.

[00:44:12] Yeah, you could probably do some stuff if you wanted.

[00:44:19] But I don't know.

[00:44:20] That looks great man.

[00:44:28] Uh, did you get the torch?

[00:44:30] Can you light it please?

[00:44:32] I don't have any torches.

[00:44:36] Looks sick on low graphics.

[00:44:38] Yeah, I am tweaking my graphics like a little bit.

[00:44:41] Oh, by the way guys,

[00:44:43] I wanted to theory craft my mage spec with you guys.

[00:44:45] Cause like,

[00:44:48] I know 5 in Frostbolt is insane, and then 3 in Frostbite is insane, and then Icelands,

[00:44:53] but I was actually thinking and set up Permafrost or Nova to go hit, because I'm just missing

[00:44:59] like all my spells, bro.

[00:45:01] I'm just like, miss, miss, miss, miss, miss, miss, miss, miss.

[00:45:05] Try 60 contrast, 40 brightness, it looks insane.

[00:45:10] That's what I do.

[00:45:11] For beta hit as needed, that's my build.

[00:45:12] Okay, let's try that.

[00:45:14] I think this is actually kind of, kind of pissed.

[00:45:17] has been telling me to try this. I feel like I already have but let's try it again for the boys.

[00:45:22] Wait, what was it? Contrast 60, brightness 40. You guys think that looks better?

[00:45:33] No way. Oh, you know what it is? Guys, I'm playing on an OLED monitor. So my,

[00:45:40] the blacks are like really black on my screen already. Like when I look at like,

[00:45:45] Like the shadows, I can't see already because my monitor is very, you know.

[00:45:51] So for me, this looks good, but it depends on your monitor.

[00:45:55] If you're not an OLED, that might actually look sick.

[00:46:00] You're flexing your OLED?

[00:46:01] No, I was actually pretty anti-OLED.

[00:46:03] I didn't want to get an OLED, and then you guys made me, basically.

[00:46:08] So I had to spend the money on an OLED because everyone was like, ZAR, it's insane, it's

[00:46:12] worth it, bro, do it.

[00:46:14] And I'm like, I don't even want an OLED.

[00:46:16] And then I got one, and you guys were actually pretty right.

[00:46:20] It is really good.

[00:46:21] But is it worth it?

[00:46:23] Probably not.

[00:46:27] It's like, if you want to treat yourself to a luxury,

[00:46:31] it's worth it.

[00:46:32] But it's not actually worth it.

[00:46:34] Does that make sense?

[00:46:35] It's like, if you want to get leather seats in a car

[00:46:39] because you're a car guy and it's like,

[00:46:40] oh yeah, I have leather seats,

[00:46:42] But like, are they actually worth it?

[00:46:44] Like, they actually might be worse if it's hot outside

[00:46:47] because then you're burning your legs,

[00:46:49] but they're leather.

[00:46:51] Anyway, I don't want the good analogy.

[00:46:55] But, the OLED looks nice, but it's like not really worth it.

[00:47:09] Okay, okay.

[00:47:12] Okay

[00:47:16] This guy says dual for one gold sure

[00:47:20] We're gonna do this guy for one gold real quick and then I'm gonna make an alt actually no before we make an alt

[00:47:24] I'm gonna go

[00:47:26] What was I gonna do? Oh, yeah, I want to go check out river glades with the boys and then we're gonna

[00:47:38] And then we're gonna

[00:47:42] What are we gonna do? We check out the river glades of the boys and we're gonna, oh yeah, we're gonna world pee and pee and then make an ult.

[00:47:50] I'm gonna charge in my frost bolts.

[00:48:00] No, I'm gonna make an ult, guys. I'm absolutely gonna make an ult.

[00:48:12] I heard that before no today is the day for an alt

[00:48:24] You playing in the tourney I'll be hosting him in this guy sends the lay on hands honestly brother I respected it

[00:48:54] It's a one gold duel. It's on the line.

[00:49:09] Man, the no-manatics actually makes playing this game like even easier than before.

[00:49:14] Because the manatics, like in PvP, were one of the harder things to manage.

[00:49:18] Now that you don't have to think about manatics, it's even easier to play.

[00:49:24] That was like the one thing to think about as a mage before is like how to time your

[00:49:32] tics.

[00:49:38] Perfect for us unks, true.

[00:49:40] You guys are pretty old.

[00:50:10] He lags out. No way. Okay, no we're good. I was gonna say he's like pretty much dead

[00:50:29] here. I thought he was gonna lag out and get a free reset.

[00:50:36] All right, here we go, GDXD, GD, that's a tough one.

[00:51:06] That is a tough one, tough duel, very tough duel.

[00:51:15] Hard to catch you, yeah.

[00:51:20] Oh, and we're lagging out again.

[00:51:25] Crap, I was gonna explore the river glades, but is it game too laggy to do that?

[00:51:33] the turn it'll be the 17th and 18th. Can't even log in it's cooked. Rip.

[00:51:42] I need to I want to check something from my UI trying to think

[00:52:05] I haven't played for a while, geez, Warcraft 3, League, Reags, Minecraft, I was just going

[00:52:23] to check a quick UI thing.

[00:52:25] Oh, here we go.

[00:52:30] Okay, look at all them sorry thumbnails. Yeah, a character with the name already exists,

[00:52:46] Well I got hurt about that, hopefully they fixed that.

[00:52:50] That's crazy.

[00:53:01] All my add-ons are here if you wanna check them.

[00:53:05] Did they add weather effects?

[00:53:06] Yes.

[00:53:08] Hey Zahra, I'm from Europe.

[00:53:10] Since the update, it's so unstable.

[00:53:11] Yeah, the servers are crashing a lot.

[00:53:14] In a weird way though, like I prefer that the servers are crashing and at least you can use add-ons and you're not and the memory leak is fixed

[00:53:22] I'd rather have add-ons and memory leak fixed with some crashes than

[00:53:26] 20 FPS and can't use add-ons. It's like at least I can play I'm lagging though here and there

[00:53:35] Memory leaks way better. I mean, let's be honest. We don't want either one

[00:53:39] But at least I like at least now I can play when I can play I can actually play without lag

[00:53:44] It's the rain causing the server lag. Oh really? Interesting. Yeah, maybe not, now I'm lagging

[00:53:53] again. Which alt am I gonna make? I'll probably be... I want to do something with Skyborne

[00:54:01] just to test the new zone so I can form a better opinion on it. So I'll do Skyborne.

[00:54:05] I don't know what, plus, probably a warrior. This guy wants to duel for one gold. Oh, he's

[00:54:11] a rogue? Oh sure.

[00:54:23] Uh buff mark of the wild. Wait buff. Wait. We can take our buffs off if you want.

[00:54:33] Uh we can just pay off. I trust you bro.

[00:54:37] are we gonna keep pups on or take them off I mean I'm done take off this guy

[00:54:44] can remove box if you want up to you it's always never played a hunter yeah I

[00:54:55] I haven't played much.

[00:54:58] Okay, I took off all my buffs.

[00:55:05] Can't get rid of camp buff.

[00:55:11] Oh, whatever.

[00:55:16] Kenzo!

[00:55:17] Thanks for the prom.

[00:55:22] This guy is playing really well.

[00:55:38] Well, I'm actually dead.

[00:55:41] Well played, bro.

[00:55:51] I was very well played.

[00:55:54] Tried to fake his kick, couldn't fake it.

[00:55:58] Tried like four times.

[00:56:00] Did he fab?

[00:56:01] No, he just known.

[00:56:07] Rated B, she used to be peak.

[00:56:08] This guy's name is Rated Battleground.

[00:56:10] One out of two imp sprint, coin flip.

[00:56:12] Yeah, he's playing imp sprint too.

[00:56:15] Ha ha ha.

[00:56:18] So we won on a 50-50, but still very well played.

[00:56:21] The shod.

[00:56:26] Hunter.

[00:56:30] Servers are bored today, yeah.

[00:56:33] Not geared YOLO.

[00:56:39] In sprint is must and PGP is a rogue.

[00:56:41] Funny enough, most rogues don't play it unless you're fighting a mage.

[00:56:51] Is the hunter bug still in? I guess it is.

[00:56:53] This guy ran into me. Nice.

[00:57:00] What's this?

[00:57:00] Dodge and parry chance increase.

[00:57:09] The shoot bug is still in?

[00:57:10] Yeah, I think they're fixing that hopefully soon.

[00:57:17] Can you include your blizzard frames import code?

[00:57:25] I'm just using classic UI.

[00:57:27] I'm pretty much default.

[00:57:35] Classic PVP is, yeah, I mean, guys, classic PVP you have to keep in mind is classic PVP.

[00:57:43] It's not, you know, level 20 classic PVP.

[00:57:48] It's, look, I don't want to be a hater,

[00:57:50] but it's always kind of in this way, you know?

[00:57:52] It is what it is, just kind of how it goes.

[00:57:54] It's not anything too balanced.

[00:57:56] You don't want to expect it to be.

[00:57:58] It's just, that's how it is, right?

[00:58:00] Which is fine.

[00:58:05] Exactly, nothing wrong with it.

[00:58:06] It's just, it's just crazy.

[00:58:13] It's mana shield and viz yeah mana shield I think is bug to not show or

[00:58:20] something

[00:58:27] yeah with a shot with five gives I just doled you man good duels bro

[00:59:13] So are you streaming on the weekend?

[00:59:17] I actually don't.

[00:59:18] I occasionally will stream on weekends, especially if I have a big sponsor stream or something

[00:59:22] like that, but oftentimes I don't.

[00:59:27] So why do they start rebalancing classes?

[00:59:29] I mean that's what this is about, right?

[00:59:31] Like, classic plus bringing in changes, whereas ERA doesn't.

[00:59:37] Disconnected again?

[00:59:38] Yeah, same.

[00:59:39] Thoughts on Blizzard Disabling Combat Logging so that Warcraft Logs and Parsing isn't a

[00:59:49] thing in forever?

[00:59:51] That actually is a discussion.

[00:59:55] I don't know.

[00:59:56] I think no Parsing culture would be a big W, but at the same time, it's how so many people

[01:00:04] play classic wow raids you know so I kind of see both sides ultimately I

[01:00:14] think keeping it's probably better and if you don't want it you just don't look

[01:00:16] at it but it's it's how so many people enjoy the game it's tough no par

[01:00:27] R's equals dead game?

[01:00:28] Yeah, I don't know.

[01:00:33] The classic community is not ready

[01:00:34] for the roller coaster of tuning every week?

[01:00:36] Yeah, I'm actually like, I said this yesterday

[01:00:39] when we were reading the first patch notes,

[01:00:41] and it is actually kind of a funny thing.

[01:00:45] It's like, I'm curious as well

[01:00:50] how the classic community is gonna respond to changes.

[01:00:53] Like, guys, if your class is really good,

[01:00:56] It might suck the next week.

[01:00:59] And if your class sucks, it might be really good

[01:01:00] the next week.

[01:01:01] That's how this works.

[01:01:02] If you're not a retail player, like,

[01:01:04] that's how this works, man.

[01:01:26] That's not worked in 2004 as well, but it's been a long time since that.

[01:01:41] How much spell power do I have?

[01:01:42] I don't even know.

[01:01:44] 61.

[01:01:46] What quest add-on do I use?

[01:01:56] I'm not using any.

[01:02:26] I think the best on the 30 turning what up C. Thank I think priest

[01:02:53] Priest is just, you know, you press fear and only wand, your mana pool is only for heals.

[01:03:00] Renew, shield, wand, fear. Shadowward pain maybe. Shadowward pain, wand, wand, wand, wand, wand, wand, wand.

[01:03:08] It's hard to beat that at level 30. It's really hard.

[01:03:23] I'm not crossing over like resisted or something.

[01:03:40] What's that bug is still in the game with Leeway Nova range?

[01:04:10] I think my Nova was bugged with the leeway things that's still not fixed

[01:04:18] From what I can tell

[01:04:40] I think it's pretty cool because I like focus, but I can see some pushback on it.

[01:05:10] But I kind of I kind of like it like you know, obviously as a as someone who really enjoys using focus. It's nice

[01:05:17] but I

[01:05:18] Could see it being kind of annoying if you've never used it and you're like

[01:05:23] You don't think it belongs. It's already YouTube chat whatever she

[01:05:30] We use focus in 2004 don't think so love you so have a great day back at you man

[01:05:40] can you explain how focus works briefly sure so you can have a target like this spider

[01:06:10] and you can have a focus target like the bandit.

[01:06:12] So this spider could be attacking me

[01:06:14] and I could be killing the spider, right?

[01:06:18] Just like that.

[01:06:18] I could be attacking the spider.

[01:06:21] But say I wanna sheep the bandit.

[01:06:23] I can put the bandit to my focus

[01:06:25] and make a macro to sheep my focus target

[01:06:27] without ever losing my target.

[01:06:31] Does that make sense?

[01:06:32] So I can be attacking this defiest cut purse like this

[01:06:37] And then the bandit, I can see, oh, my off-target is sheaped,

[01:06:41] only half duration, and I can sheep that

[01:06:43] without ever detargeting my main target up here.

[01:06:47] So it's like, you can target two things at once.

[01:06:50] So it's a very, very, very, very, very, very strong thing

[01:06:54] to have set up.

[01:06:56] It's very game-changing.

[01:06:59] Like I said, I like it,

[01:07:00] because I'm definitely very used to using it,

[01:07:03] but I can see, if you're not used to using that,

[01:07:05] how it's just like a big change you get used to.

[01:07:09] It's very not classic.

[01:07:10] It was introduced in TBC.

[01:07:18] Target of target's broken, is it?

[01:07:20] It works for me, from what I can tell.

[01:07:28] Not sure why you'd ever make a macro for focus target

[01:07:31] if you could make a mouse over.

[01:07:33] So yeah, that's a decent question.

[01:07:35] Now that focus is in the game, mouse over is dead.

[01:07:37] Like you pretty much don't want to use mouse over.

[01:07:40] Why?

[01:07:44] One, it's more accurate in the sense that

[01:07:46] you can set a focus target and you don't have to

[01:07:49] move your mouse while moving.

[01:07:51] Two, and this is more important than the first one,

[01:07:54] is when you have a focus target,

[01:07:58] you can see the polymorph duration.

[01:08:01] So you can see when it's about to expire.

[01:08:03] You can see exactly when it breaks.

[01:08:05] You can actually keep an eye on it while playing the game.

[01:08:08] With a mouse over, you can't really do that.

[01:08:10] You can't really see exactly when this thing is expiring.

[01:08:13] So in a sense, focus replaces mouse over.

[01:08:16] Now, there's exceptions.

[01:08:16] Like if you're a raid healer,

[01:08:18] you're still gonna use mouse over heals,

[01:08:19] but that's a little different.

[01:08:20] I'm talking mouse over kicks,

[01:08:22] calendar spells, polymorphs.

[01:08:23] Essentially, you're gonna replace all those with this.

[01:08:27] It's just like a much better, more accurate system.

[01:08:30] You can see the cast bars exactly like say you put something to your focus target like a warlock

[01:08:37] You can see the warlocks cast bar say you put something your focus target

[01:08:40] You can see the buffs and their debuffs so say you're PVPing and you have a druid on your focus target

[01:08:45] You can see if the druid leaves cap form and starts casting a regrowth like it's an incredibly powerful tool it instantly replaces mouse over

[01:08:54] So it's it's way stronger

[01:08:56] which is why it's a big deal to add it in. I'm actually surprised more people

[01:09:01] haven't talked about it. Like I said, I like it, but I can see pushback because

[01:09:05] it it makes you into a much powerful, much more powerful player. I say you use

[01:09:11] both. I mean you just don't need it. Like Mousover is just a weaker version of it.

[01:09:15] Like there's no real reason to use it if you have focus. In world PvP, in duels,

[01:09:21] and you can straight up just replace it. Focus is strictly better? Yeah unless

[01:09:30] you're like a raid healer like in other instances like a mouse over raid

[01:09:34] healing that like obviously that's good. You'll still want mouse over and bee

[01:09:42] cheese? Not really. I mean you know this focus will be pretty much strictly better

[01:09:46] the mouse over even in bg's. What you can do, and I've actually done this, is make a

[01:10:12] a conditional macro. This is actually kind of cool. You can make a conditional macro

[01:10:16] that uses, if you press the key bind, it's a mouse over counter spell, unless you have

[01:10:22] a focus. If you have a focus, then it goes to your focus. So it's like a conditional

[01:10:30] focus first. If you have the focus, it uses the focus. If not, it's a mouse over. So that's

[01:10:34] what you can do. But like I said, 99.999, you're using the focus anyway. So it's kind

[01:10:39] I'm just a waste of a macro in a sense if you really shouldn't be using mouse over

[01:10:55] Man the leeway bug is still there so the damage hit with the nova did not I reported that as a bug

[01:11:02] But that might take him some time to fix

[01:11:04] Those debuffs up there are

[01:11:07] are really small. That frostbilt debuff is kind of high and small. Nameplate info, aggro

[01:11:22] display, enemy NPC, buff debuff scale. I'm actually going to use this guy as a little

[01:11:29] tester. Oh crap it doesn't show on poly up top. Hi Focus Keeper, how you should be? How

[01:11:40] you set focus macros up? Sorry I'm a new peer. So this is exactly why I think it should

[01:11:44] be somewhat controversial to add focus in the game is because like so many people don't

[01:11:49] even know what it is and it's a big deal. It's a powerful tool. It makes your gameplay

[01:11:55] Much much more precise stronger you become a much better player using it and a lot of people don't even know what it is

[01:12:02] So what does that mean? What that means is that the skill between the?

[01:12:07] The skill gap between the top players and the bottom players actually increases by

[01:12:12] Introducing focus which like if you ask me is maybe not an issue

[01:12:16] That's why it's like all right as a friend

[01:12:17] You know is it's there to use it if you want, but it is a big deal. It is definitely a big deal

[01:12:25] You can't design a game around people being bad.

[01:12:35] I don't really think that's the argument.

[01:12:36] I'd say that's more of a straw man of the argument.

[01:12:39] The actual argument is more, we have a complex game and it's called Retail.

[01:12:43] Should our secondary game classic forever be complex?

[01:12:48] And the question isn't binary, it's more of a spectrum.

[01:12:52] complex should the game be? The game is supposed to be simplistic by design, but

[01:13:00] that doesn't mean it has to be simplistic as a super philosophy. It's how

[01:13:03] simplistic should it be is the question.

[01:13:08] Right?

[01:13:22] anyway, I'll keep he's DC every five minutes.

[01:13:40] I was trying to figure out where the CC was shown, Size, Buff, Debuff, Scale controls

[01:14:07] the size nameplate buffs and debuffs, so those being like 130 might be better.

[01:14:13] Oh, I know this guy was going to let me test.

[01:14:18] I don't know what that is.

[01:14:21] Yeah, those are still pretty small and they're like pretty high up there.

[01:14:25] Unless my add-on is controlling that.

[01:14:28] I would like to make those buffs like a little bigger.

[01:14:34] Debuff padding, simplify name, cast bar.

[01:14:45] That might be controlled by this.

[01:14:49] Yeah, I don't know.

[01:14:53] Maybe I'll go into that later.

[01:14:55] Buffs and debuffs, cast bars, misc, import cast bars, fonts and textures, advanced settings.

[01:15:03] I don't know.

[01:15:13] Buff debuff scale.

[01:15:14] I already tried putting the scale up, it didn't seem to change anything.

[01:15:17] Let me see.

[01:15:18] Yeah, that like, Frostbolt is so tiny, isn't it?

[01:15:22] Like, how small that thing is.

[01:15:27] There was a buff debuff scale.

[01:15:29] Yeah, I tried that.

[01:15:30] It doesn't seem like it changed anything.

[01:15:33] We see.

[01:15:39] Doesn't do anything.

[01:15:43] It's probably in the add-on here.

[01:15:45] Oh, I'm on the wrong pad on plate, sister, when I want.

[01:16:10] I don't see it.

[01:16:32] Yeah, there it is.

[01:16:53] I think like 1.5 is probably fine.

[01:16:57] And then it's definitely way too high up on the y-axis.

[01:17:06] Yeah, that's a little better.

[01:17:19] Nice.

[01:17:24] Can you do a pull on focus and see what people think about it?

[01:17:34] I think people overwhelmingly like it.

[01:17:36] Once in the chat if you like focus and classic to use in the chat if you don't like it you think it's too much

[01:17:41] I think people are pretty positive about it. I mean there. I mean I can totally understand the twos, but I

[01:17:49] Think it's a fair argument to be a two here. I really do

[01:17:57] Nothing to dislike about it. I think the dislike argument is like it is it adds complexity to a

[01:18:04] simple game kind of a thing but yeah I think like overall it's again that

[01:18:08] positive

[01:18:14] it heightens the skill ceiling for an otherwise simple game yeah which I mean

[01:18:19] adding taking away ticks reduces the skill ceiling so it's interesting like

[01:18:24] there's different things that might increase or reduce the ceiling we have a

[01:18:29] lot of blood here

[01:18:34] Skratt's a gamer.

[01:19:03] game. Zara's dueling bots. That Paladin was better than like 99% of Paladins that I've

[01:19:10] That guy was solid.

[01:19:16] Very very solid.

[01:19:33] Can you explain how focus can be useful for a non-mage class?

[01:19:35] Sure, if you're a rogue you can focus blind, focus gouge, focus kick.

[01:19:40] If you're a warrior, you can focus intercept.

[01:19:43] So if you're a warrior and you're fighting this paladin and you have the rogue to your

[01:19:46] focus, you can be hitting the Pali and without a single lapse of time, hitting the Pali,

[01:19:52] focus intercept on the rogue and then come back to the Pali.

[01:19:55] Smoother gameplay, quicker, more precise, right?

[01:19:58] It's really a mandatory mechanic if you want to be mechanically sound, right?

[01:20:03] Pali, focused hammer of justice.

[01:20:08] Let's see, Druid, Focus Entangling Roots, Focus Fairy Fire would be good.

[01:20:15] Hunter, Focus Concussive Shot, Focus Winged Clip.

[01:20:24] Very good.

[01:20:28] Today is my five-year-old daughter's birthday.

[01:20:32] Hey, happy birthday to her.

[01:20:35] That's what's up.

[01:20:39] That's what's up.

[01:20:43] I think this guy wants to do all.

[01:20:57] You can argue that mouse over technically has a higher skill ceiling since you have to move your mouse.

[01:21:01] Focus just simplifies this.

[01:21:03] Uh, it's harder, well, yeah, I guess, sure, that's a different way of looking at the same

[01:21:08] argument.

[01:21:09] It's harder to use, so it's less, like, precise, which means you're gonna make more errors,

[01:21:14] which means it makes the gameplay sloppier.

[01:21:17] Does that make sense?

[01:21:19] So like, yes, if you wanna look at it from that lens, that's kind of exactly what we're

[01:21:25] chatting about.

[01:21:28] It's actually one of my big takeaways from playing RuneScape.

[01:21:32] One of the things I learned when playing Runescape is like, the complexity of Runescape is mainly

[01:21:37] in that you have to click to move and click all your spells and abilities.

[01:21:44] Imagine World of Warcraft, but you had to click to move and click all your spells.

[01:21:47] Imagine how hard it would be to like, duel.

[01:21:49] Imagine how hard it would be to do a dungeon.

[01:21:51] Imagine how hard it would be to do an end game, like, Mythic Plus raid.

[01:21:54] It really becomes really hard.

[01:21:57] That's essentially what Runescape is.

[01:22:00] The complexity is because you have to click everything, it makes it very, very difficult.

[01:22:10] Oh, that's a good duel.

[01:22:36] Do a duel with Flick to move on?

[01:22:37] No, I'm serious bro.

[01:22:38] So imagine you're playing wow, no keybinds allowed, you only can use your mouse.

[01:22:44] You have to click to move and click your spells.

[01:22:46] Imagine how hard that would be, but the difficulty would then be created through your limitation

[01:22:51] of mechanics.

[01:22:53] Not through the difficulty of the game itself, it's literally a mechanical limitation that

[01:22:57] creates the difficulty.

[01:22:58] That's what RuneScape is.

[01:22:59] It's so hard because you have to click to move, click to spell, it's like an insane

[01:23:03] mouse precision, but if you could use keybinds in RuneScape and movement, like keys, it would

[01:23:08] be so much easier, like so much easier, but you can't, right?

[01:23:12] So that's kind of similar to this discussion is that mouseover

[01:23:15] makes it so it's just mechanically harder to do focus

[01:23:19] simplifies that makes it much easier.

[01:23:22] How many people do you think still were Zaryumurch?

[01:23:39] A good amount.

[01:23:40] I actually saw a bunch of people in Zaryumurch at BlizzCon.

[01:23:43] It's pretty bad.

[01:24:05] Lukos, thanks for the G1.

[01:24:13] That's on Feral losing power shifting? Wait is power shifting gone? I don't know that.

[01:24:24] It is? Wow, that's kind of a big deal. I'm surprised I haven't heard of that yet.

[01:24:28] Power shifting was never in classic wait really what about like with wolf's head helm or

[01:24:44] it wasn't the whole meta you go from cat to cat to get energy

[01:24:47] It's not like the whole design it was oh we just had a one one guy my bad

[01:25:08] My daughter loves your stream yo, that's what's up

[01:25:12] Power shifting isn't gone cat gaining 40 energy and power shifting is gone. Oh

[01:25:17] So you can still shift routes.

[01:25:21] We've got a $20 Super Chat from Sean. Thank you, Sean.

[01:25:24] He says, hey, he's armed, new to PvP.

[01:25:26] There's so much going on, it's hard to keep track of all the spells.

[01:25:29] What are you looking at specifically when you're playing?

[01:25:32] And when you're commentating.

[01:25:34] A lot of it is auras, so buffs and debuffs.

[01:25:37] Like right now the Pali has freedom up, which means he's immune to movement and parrying effects.

[01:25:42] So during freedom, I'm just like running.

[01:25:44] Now he has no freedom. I can I can like frostbolt. I was actually pretty well played by this guy

[01:25:50] Now he's in a nova

[01:25:52] It's on the sheep. He has to free him up again

[01:25:56] I don't know

[01:25:58] PvP's one of those things that like with time it just becomes more and more like

[01:26:03] You just like see the stuff whereas when you're getting started

[01:26:07] It's it's harder to like like take it all in because it's just a lot to look at

[01:26:11] But yeah, blots, debots, caspars, that kind of stuff.

[01:26:18] Forever, how far are you planning on making an alt today?

[01:26:22] Yeah, I actually could make an alt right now.

[01:26:24] I was gonna go do some world PvP first,

[01:26:25] but since the servers were lagging,

[01:26:26] I was kind of waiting for them to clear up.

[01:26:29] Oh, yeah.

[01:26:29] Maybe right now is actually a better time to make an alt

[01:26:33] in the sense that I can lag when I'm making an alt

[01:26:38] when I'm making an alt and it doesn't matter but lagging in world pvp like really sucks

[01:26:43] So yeah, maybe I actually just make an alt right now

[01:26:51] Did you see the creep modifier is bugged in PvP

[01:26:55] 25% for spells instead of 50%

[01:26:59] 50% for physical instead of 100%

[01:27:02] Possibly from retail. I don't think that's the case. I think it's 50 in the hundred right now

[01:27:07] That's a mere said. I don't if it's if it's actually 25 for spells, then yeah, that would be a bug

[01:27:12] I don't think it is. Whoops. I think I clicked exit game my accident

[01:27:16] Whoops

[01:27:24] Test it sure I can test it

[01:27:32] Is there no Alliance?

[01:27:34] PvP turning?

[01:27:35] It's going to be on Horde.

[01:27:36] Not interested in a Hunter?

[01:27:38] I like Hunters, but not as much as the other classes.

[01:27:40] I want to do major of priests for your Pally.

[01:27:44] Let me check out Chris real quick before I make an ult.

[01:27:52] 37 40 49 25% uh yeah it is 25%

[01:28:21] that's 25% right?

[01:28:30] should be 50 maybe you're right let me try again

[01:28:51] 47 can someone double check my math that's that's 25% ish right you're getting eight extra damage

[01:29:15] That's 25. Okay, so that's a straight up. That has to be a bug

[01:29:31] Let me check out melee crits, so when I attack you with my staff it is 29. Can you sit down?

[01:29:45] Up to 39, that's 30...3%?

[01:30:01] Could maybe be a bit higher?

[01:30:03] What's going on there?

[01:30:05] Have you seen the new man of Mistmantle in Duskwood?

[01:30:09] Possibly new Dung Aught in Man Raid.

[01:30:15] Spell crits are doing plus 25% instead of plus 50%.

[01:30:23] Melee crits look to be doing plus.

[01:30:31] Your melee range isn't 29 to 31.

[01:30:33] Let me see.

[01:30:35] 31 30 47 oh wow that so that 47 was much higher 27 38 okay so the range is much higher so

[01:30:55] So maybe it is plus 50 then.

[01:31:12] My account got stolen last night, praying to the blizzard gods that I can get back into

[01:31:18] the race.

[01:31:19] that. Is that in PVP only? Uh, I could go test this outside of PVP, but that's going

[01:31:29] to be annoying to test. 35, 35, 35, 37, 35, 38.

[01:31:54] I'm picking up an Herman Miller head on today. Do you have remastered or CL?

[01:32:00] Ink mind's the remastered. I actually have two of them the one that I bought one that I got through a sponsor

[01:32:05] The one that I bought is the classic the one that I have is this one is the remastered

[01:32:10] I think they seem about the same though

[01:32:18] 57

[01:32:24] So in PvE, it's 50% how it should, but in PvP, it's only 25.

[01:32:37] So spell crits and PvP are doing plus 25, melee crits and PvP.

[01:32:43] cool. Hi. Um, alt time. I wanted to go check out riverglades, but if it's too laggy right

[01:32:54] now, I don't mind doing alt first. And then I also wanted to check out Mount Hyshal. I

[01:32:58] also want to do some world pp, but I can't do any of that if the servers are lagging.

[01:33:04] Will HD models break the classic immersion if I enable it? Try it for yourself. A lot

[01:33:09] of people like HD models better. Check it out. If you don't like it, turn it back to SD.

[01:33:14] Hi.

[01:33:15] Guys, we've been baiting you for days, for weeks, for months at this point.

[01:33:38] It is time for an alt.

[01:33:39] Okay, not months.

[01:33:43] I want to try Pali and Warrior and Rogue and Priest.

[01:33:50] You know, that's going to be one of those, but I think more than anything, I want to

[01:33:54] try the new Skyborne starting zone just so I can form my own opinion on it because I

[01:34:02] haven't done the entire thing yet.

[01:34:05] I can hear other people give their opinions, but I want to form my own, so it is going

[01:34:09] be a sky born because I want to I want to form my own opinion here so it'll be a

[01:34:17] warrior hunter major rogue or truant I read a mage can't be a Pally it's gonna

[01:34:22] be a rogue or warrior I'll do a warrior all right let's try this thing

[01:34:30] No eight no SD character model toggle. I don't mind blood elves though. We'll take it

[01:34:43] technically that's a skyborne okay

[01:34:53] make it blue heck no

[01:34:57] Oh, you can be blind?

[01:35:17] Yo, that's kind of sick.

[01:35:21] I'm going blind.

[01:35:23] Feather color.

[01:35:26] kind of fire. Oh yeah I'm like a monk that's right yeah a blind monk. Oh you

[01:35:33] can go no feathers. Alright there's some kind of fire they'll do it.

[01:35:39] Beast tattoo.

[01:35:52] Body tattoo.

[01:36:00] We're gonna go none. I'm just gonna be basic here.

[01:36:10] Yeah, I'm actually gonna go real basic here. I'm basically a blood elf. All right. What's my name?

[01:36:19] Blind samurai see if that works someone took it all right

[01:36:30] Blind samurai hype

[01:36:32] Okay, Skyborne, what do we got?

[01:36:41] Give it to me.

[01:36:42] What's going on?

[01:36:51] Work in progress!

[01:36:52] The band of high-illuminate exiles have remained single and hidden for their lives and for their life of deathful vile.

[01:37:01] These Skyborn, as they call themselves, shared upon the air elements who kept their island aloft in the realm of Skyborn.

[01:37:12] But in recent years, the Elemental Slinging Love Tricks destructing the delicate magic that just insists you are able to master love.

[01:37:24] Okay.

[01:37:25] Now, a new generation of Sky-born elves face a time of unprecedented change.

[01:37:33] Okay

[01:37:44] Yeah, I don't mind the intro a details is working out by the way guys details on it

[01:37:52] All right

[01:37:54] Okay, one thing that is nice about edit mode is you can literally just go boom

[01:37:59] And all of my settings for my other guy are here. That is really nice. Oh

[01:38:05] We have a guild invites it forever hype. There we go

[01:38:12] Just tuned in is this retail nope nope nope we're playing we're playing classic men

[01:38:17] Alright, look at you, bright-eyed and ready for adventure.

[01:38:40] We've been awaiting your arrival, anticipating your much needed help here in Ventral Village.

[01:38:44] I imagine you're brimming with nerves and excitement for what's to come

[01:38:49] Okay, people people are automating invites from whispers, okay

[01:38:55] Go seek out our village leader Roryan

[01:38:59] Roryan, I'm blind samurai. I can't see you. Call out to me

[01:39:10] Got it

[01:39:12] Gale's greetings, Blind Samurai. I'm honored to bestow your coming-of-age

[01:39:17] relic today as you're recognized for the potential you bring to the Shandurai.

[01:39:20] Our people have faced great hardship and persecution in our complex history.

[01:39:23] Today, you're given this relic, which is of many held by those before you.

[01:39:28] Someday, when you're ash, they're scattered to the winds, they'll pass to another.

[01:39:31] Okay? We live in a time of great uncertainty for our people, and we face

[01:39:36] unprecedented challenges that require bold solutions. We also can most

[01:39:40] content with the ordinary and mundane here and then they'll grow. Okay, cool. See? They

[01:39:44] keep it simple. They keep it simple. We have to focus on the boring and mundane. I like

[01:39:52] it. The full trend population have been on the rise. They're a vital part of the ecosystem,

[01:39:58] but it has to be balanced. Okay, cool. I like that. That's kind of nice. Not bad. So I think

[01:40:09] Looks like this rock here looks like it could be in classic and like same with this and same

[01:40:16] with this.

[01:40:17] This building kind of looks like a recolored night elf like with this and stuff like that's

[01:40:23] kind of fun.

[01:40:24] The trees look fine.

[01:40:27] The lamp posts maybe a little curvy.

[01:40:32] Slay 8 pesky Sirus flies in Ventral Grove.

[01:40:35] I mean I could handle that guys, I could do this.

[01:40:44] Oh, okay, yeah, quests.

[01:40:48] Where do you go to like quest objectives?

[01:40:51] Yeah, I think that is probably,

[01:40:53] you know, I'm not gonna go full nutty here.

[01:40:55] AP, thanks for the tier one, appreciate ya.

[01:41:00] And then here, I think, yeah, sorry, I'm on it.

[01:41:04] All right, I'm gonna turn off the quest icon on that just cuz I don't I don't I

[01:41:19] don't know why it's just

[01:41:22] What's the indicator now there you go.

[01:41:26] Juvenile.

[01:41:27] Slain.

[01:41:28] Okay, walk on air, shift 2, read leyline.

[01:41:32] I don't know, shift Z or something?

[01:41:36] Shift C?

[01:41:38] C?

[01:41:39] I don't know.

[01:41:40] Something.

[01:41:41] What's this one do again?

[01:41:42] Attempt to tap into the power of the nearby leyline.

[01:41:47] I found a bladed harass that looks like it's from retail.

[01:41:50] Zone is cooked.

[01:41:51] Really? Report that.

[01:41:56] 15-minute server restart. Oh, great! Blizzard! I'm in the middle of gaming up here on the Blind Samurai.

[01:42:06] I thought that was a Leyline.

[01:42:11] Crap, 15 seconds.

[01:42:13] So like, right away, the way this works is that you get Health of Mana regen for 15 seconds if there's no Leyline, and

[01:42:20] and you get one for 15 minutes if you find one.

[01:42:23] I thought they were those, but maybe not.

[01:42:26] I feel like that's kind of troll.

[01:42:27] 15 seconds without 15 width is like some pretty big variance here.

[01:42:34] I think right away on these like Vuldren, I think the the geometry is like a bit too complex

[01:42:41] for a level one compared to like the gnomestarting area, human...

[01:42:50] I wouldn't mind the stone down at Tad.

[01:42:59] I like the colors.

[01:43:00] I think the colors fit well.

[01:43:04] They're not like overly, uh, what's it, vibrant.

[01:43:07] Hey, good afternoon, Sonic.

[01:43:09] How's it going?

[01:43:13] Try the swing timers, R?

[01:43:15] Uh, I don't like how it looks.

[01:43:17] probably just keep it off for now. Get like a reskin of it at some point.

[01:43:25] Okay, so these fireflies. These fireflies I think look pretty on point. They're not too vibrant.

[01:43:30] I think they even might be a classic model. Kind of like those. Fireflies are nice.

[01:43:36] Have I done the new survey? I actually haven't. I saw it but I didn't do it on stream since it said

[01:43:42] Don't do this on stream. So I haven't done it yet

[01:43:44] It's a TVC model. Yeah, I feel like TVC models kind of work. I don't I don't mind this

[01:43:49] This fireflies nice or cert service fly. I guess it's called. Hey, yo D level too hard

[01:43:59] We got some fat loot some fat gear upgrades will go let's go let's go

[01:44:03] Let's put that finger on it's an heirloom after all might as well

[01:44:06] So I'm not really noticing the normalized rage level one or two yet feels about the same, but we'll see

[01:44:20] Can you zoom in on the bull trend give me a sec here

[01:44:29] Yeah, let me find another one here we go so this is a bull trend kill here

[01:44:36] go for another one now it's not that bad I mean it's not nearly like the man what

[01:44:57] was the I mean I guess we'll get to it here in a little bit so get to it here in a

[01:45:04] little bit. It's not nearly like the uh that blue model from that little bird thing. 12 minutes

[01:45:10] until the server disconnects. Yeah maybe they'll fix the server DCs on the restart so maybe it's a good thing.

[01:45:34] So far, like I think the trees look good, the mountains look good, the water looks good,

[01:45:42] the ground looks good, some of these mobs look good, the quests read well.

[01:45:53] I mean overall this is pretty fine so far.

[01:45:56] Where you're hold?

[01:46:00] Here we go.

[01:46:01] Can you share your edit mode?

[01:46:02] I will eventually, I'm still tweaking things.

[01:46:08] Your poggers bro?

[01:46:09] Thanks man.

[01:46:10] It's a loot fag bugged.

[01:46:17] Not that I can tell maybe.

[01:46:20] Okay, we need one more of those pesky circus flies.

[01:46:26] It's right here.

[01:46:35] Oh, interesting. You weren't required to have a first and last name.

[01:46:37] No, you need a first and last name.

[01:46:38] I just have mine hidden because I don't like showing the last name.

[01:46:46] People are saying 24 hour down time.

[01:46:48] Any chance that's real? No way.

[01:46:50] That'd be crazy.

[01:46:51] We didn't really get to play yesterday, either.

[01:46:56] Others can see my secondary name, I just hide it.

[01:47:14] Cool. So we start off with Humble Beginnings, we're doing some basic kill quests, and it wants us to go deeper in the forest and find the queen.

[01:47:22] a queen fly cool now we'll go and turn this next quest in over here and then

[01:47:29] we'll try to find the warrior trainer as well

[01:47:35] can you try auto looting ones yeah give me a minute

[01:47:42] so now there's elemental unrest we want to observe the elemental unrest from the

[01:47:51] elemental benefactors. They left us, it seems we're simply moving from one unrest to another.

[01:47:56] Okay. And the warrior's path. Okay, let's go check out some warrior training here. We

[01:48:04] can also probably vendor up. Put on our brand new leather bracers. It's more glass.

[01:48:21] Plug 15 windstone clusters from raw windstones and then we can get like some professions

[01:48:29] So I actually kind of like how they did this they added an early profession quest so that you can actually

[01:48:36] Just get a profit of starting so we get going

[01:48:40] Or gathering I guess it's an only gathering I think it is only gathering

[01:48:44] So you get mining herb or skinning it's just gathering that's actually rad. I actually really like that

[01:48:53] Okay, that'll show

[01:49:00] Hey Nick, thanks for the prime I'm trying to be as analytical with this as possible really just look at it from a lens of like does this actually fit, right?

[01:49:08] Greetings, I often, um, I often times come up here to look at the ancient anchor pylon

[01:49:19] gifts from the spirit.

[01:49:20] Speak with him and look around.

[01:49:22] Oh, wow.

[01:49:24] Oh.

[01:49:25] Oh.

[01:49:26] What has the wind brought?

[01:49:31] Thanks for taking a moment to share this with me, okay.

[01:49:36] with style. Step up on the ledge and then jump and use your innate ability to walk in

[01:49:41] the air and slow fall. I was gonna do that anyway. We're definitely gonna do that. Woo-hoo!

[01:49:49] Oh yeah. GG! Thanks for the prom.

[01:49:58] D-level 3, wow. I'm a speed leveler. Was that like a little quicker than a normal level

[01:50:04] Holy crap

[01:50:12] Reading lay lines, so we're gonna learn how to use our new racial ability cool get some clusters

[01:50:23] Pick these up so it's a gathering you get a gathering profession and you have to gather unable to in order to do that

[01:50:28] I like that as well

[01:50:30] This looks like classic to me. Yeah. Yeah, so far. I don't think I have pretty much

[01:50:36] Any complaints. I think maybe the Vulture in model is a little retail-y

[01:50:41] Besides that the quests in the way in which they're written and the objectives seem to be pretty on point the

[01:50:48] Aesthetic seems to be pretty on point for the most part. I don't know if I can really complain much so far

[01:50:55] for only

[01:50:56] Five ten minutes in though, right 15 minutes in so we'll see I

[01:51:05] Feel like learn your active racial quest should be added for every race I

[01:51:12] Yeah, yeah, I maybe I definitely don't mind it

[01:51:17] Dean thanks for the front what I don't know I use my profile all of them my add-ons are in discord. I updated them this morning

[01:51:26] They put the old frames in or am I using an add-on it's an add-on guys slay eight six

[01:51:37] roiling wins and seven Alcath convert so this seems fine to me

[01:51:44] He's wins look like fine, I guess, should I put on a robe, guys?

[01:52:05] I'm putting on a robe on the blind samurai.

[01:52:09] These converts are just like blood elf models, which seems fine to me.

[01:52:16] Not much to complain about here, this looks good.

[01:52:19] Quake!

[01:52:20] Thanks for the prime.

[01:52:22] Lootbag is bugged.

[01:52:23] Did you see that?

[01:52:24] I did not see that.

[01:52:25] I don't know, I looked there, didn't notice.

[01:52:32] I think I just keep missing it.

[01:52:36] I hope they make it so you can shoot some classic and retail HUD themes.

[01:52:39] Yeah, same, but I think we...

[01:52:41] I think there's a losing war here.

[01:52:51] What are your thoughts on Locke?

[01:52:52] I haven't played one yet, but Affliction looks really cool.

[01:52:56] Battleshout? True.

[01:52:58] Is Battleshout always three minutes, or is it normally two?

[01:53:02] Am I trippin' to think it's normally two?

[01:53:05] Might be trippin'.

[01:53:06] Oh it is normally two. So it's three now. That's it. That's kind of nice.

[01:53:22] Okay, so we'll keep just running over here and questing and doing our thing.

[01:53:27] So read leiline is something I do want to use but I was trying to like look to find

[01:53:39] one but I don't really see any around me because if I use it on the leiline it's a 15-minute

[01:53:44] buff which would be like crazy strong.

[01:53:47] Oh they're showing on your map?

[01:53:50] Oh on the mini map they show.

[01:53:51] Did they show on the big map?

[01:53:52] No, just the mini map.

[01:53:54] So a Leyline is right there, it shows on the minimap.

[01:53:57] Oh wow.

[01:53:59] So if I get this, I'm gonna get a 15 minute buff

[01:54:02] for 100% increased health and mana.

[01:54:05] That seems insane.

[01:54:09] Oh, this guy's trying to get my Leyline too.

[01:54:11] We can mock her off for it or something, man,

[01:54:13] because this is big.

[01:54:17] So good for mana users.

[01:54:18] I mean, it's insane for a warrior as well.

[01:54:21] Okay, so we read the Leyline, boom.

[01:54:23] 15-minute buff mana and health regen increased by a hundred is that as cracked as it seems like it would be

[01:54:30] That seems absolutely disgusting

[01:54:34] Yes

[01:54:37] But like that's not that good and like PvP or like raids it's more good for like speed leveling or like love just leveling in general

[01:54:47] Am I just gonna be like perma full HP right now

[01:54:53] Leveling in general and it's and leveling is half the game. I mean for most people leveling is the game

[01:55:03] So I guess that is kind of cool

[01:55:06] Because I've been hearing that the racial for Skyborne needs to be buffed, but

[01:55:12] maybe it's fine the way it is and

[01:55:14] It's only weak in PvP and maybe that's fine because you don't have to balance everything around PvP

[01:55:20] leveling should be the game again I mean for a lot of people it is right I

[01:55:26] mean for me the last many years it pretty much has been to be honest

[01:55:35] okay so the servers are about the shutdown so I'm just gonna log off and

[01:55:41] we'll continue this in a second hopefully Blizzard in a second Blizzard

[01:55:45] They'll be right back up guys trust

[01:55:52] I don't know where the

[01:55:58] Is this a

[01:56:05] I don't know where that like in is whatever the blue post says the maintenance period should be very brief. Oh, that's cool

[01:56:15] Hey, sorry, you beat Chamilly when you were back in college.

[01:56:25] Tell us what happened after.

[01:56:26] Did you finish and work or stream after full time and drop out?

[01:56:30] I finished college and then I stream full time.

[01:56:34] All right.

[01:56:36] I'm going to go to the restroom while we're logging back in and then keep sending.

[01:58:12] Alright, we're back.

[01:58:21] No realms available?

[01:58:22] Yeah, I think the realms are off.

[01:58:23] It's all good though.

[01:58:26] Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum,

[01:58:42] hopefully they'll be back up in like 15 minutes or so we'll see

[01:58:47] league game while we wait no let's chill for a minute thought i washed my hands i did

[01:58:59] did i miss the giveaway no we're actually out of codes we need to get more of those

[01:59:05] just watched the podcast uh you were amazing glad glad you enjoyed men

[01:59:09] what happened to your hair? I took my headset off. Hardcore hold! What do you think of undead

[01:59:18] racial for lock spreading dots? We'll see how much percentage damage it does. Any news

[01:59:24] on the dual tourney? We'll have info for you hopefully soon. The rule set hopefully will

[01:59:29] be out soon. Why do you jump while melee attacking? I'm just used to it. H&S going

[01:59:48] 10 out of 15 next night. Nice Asloth Crusher, bro. Are you going to play in the dual turning?

[01:59:55] I'm going to be hosting it with asfand.

[02:00:04] Servers down all the time?

[02:00:05] Yeah, that's kind of what you expected of beta, though.

[02:00:09] What would my job be if I didn't start streaming?

[02:00:11] It'd probably be a personal trainer.

[02:00:19] Servers are back up?

[02:00:21] No way.

[02:00:22] Let me see.

[02:00:25] Hey, wow, that was fast.

[02:00:32] Level 1.

[02:00:38] Level 1.

[02:00:44] Level 1!

[02:00:45] Rolled Pack. No, it is probably just out of date. When I log in, I'll probably be level 3.

[02:00:55] Yeah, level three. Okay. And we're back. Let's keep doing our thing. So we got the reading

[02:01:12] lay lines quest done. We have that 15 minute buff. So we're pretty locked in and dialed.

[02:01:18] We'll continue getting these and these and then kill the queen, turn all the quests and

[02:01:23] will probably be out for.

[02:01:38] I have to say, WoW Forever is growing on me.

[02:01:42] I think like, I mean I liked it from the start, but I had like my hesitations, but the more

[02:01:48] Before I play it, the more I'm like, okay, you know, I think the add-on situation I think

[02:01:58] might be helping too.

[02:02:00] The world around you is going to refresh in five minutes.

[02:02:03] Make sure you get five Twitch Prime subs in our out of combat and in a safe area and then

[02:02:10] select refresh now huh okay why it's fade out subs in the in-game prompt that's

[02:02:19] kind of weird oh we got five gifted subs so now we can refresh okay all right

[02:02:23] we're in a new area now we're good we're saved nice very interesting I don't

[02:02:29] think you guys have that have that same thing too

[02:02:34] yeah we got five more gifted subs from Johnny thank you PCD thanks for the

[02:02:38] Prime as well. Dorma, thanks for the Prime as well as well.

[02:03:08] Okay, let's go over here and check out the Queen Fly.

[02:03:18] Is Battleshow good?

[02:03:19] Yeah, I keep forgetting to use it.

[02:03:23] Can you put Battleshow on your cooldown manager?

[02:03:26] Yo, YOLAS with 40 gifted subs!

[02:03:30] What the heck?

[02:03:32] Oh wait, Minecraft added 8 gifted subs?

[02:03:38] Yo losses subs. Wait, why is Minecraft adding gifted subs to gifted subs? What the heck is going on there?

[02:03:44] Thanks Minecraft. Wait, are they wanting me to do another hardcore run?

[02:03:58] That was a lot of fun if you guys missed that

[02:04:02] Bucks

[02:04:06] Battleshow

[02:04:08] Oh, you can put Battleshout here, I only want to show it if it's missing, how do I do that?

[02:04:23] You can't, huh?

[02:04:28] I don't know, for now we'll just do that, that's like, really, you know, yeah, no, that's

[02:04:32] Okay, cool unmanager, track buffs, I'll do it like that.

[02:04:43] I want, like, what I like to do is you only put it up if you're missing it, but I'll just

[02:04:50] do this anyway for now because it's better than never having Petal showed up.

[02:04:56] 30 cap is out Zahra wake up. Level 30 is next week. There's no way. There's no way they

[02:05:06] just put it out today Rando. I don't believe it. I don't believe it. It's a lie. Don't get

[02:05:13] Legacy points are out not 30 cap

[02:05:20] That would be crazy if they just rando put that in I

[02:05:34] Got a whisper saying they're lying bro got picas level 22 true. Yeah

[02:05:43] Do slash who 21 no one

[02:06:03] Edit mode cool-down manager show when missing oh you can do that

[02:06:08] Show when missing hold on

[02:06:10] edit mode cool-down manager someone said show when missing

[02:06:32] baited I mean am I just blind here

[02:06:40] hide when inactive advanced yeah that's this

[02:06:58] That guy wants to group up for the queen.

[02:07:18] We stand this hard.

[02:07:21] So rage so far on a level 3 warrior feels fine.

[02:07:26] But that's only level 3, because apparently it feels awful once you get higher.

[02:07:40] You need to test it as arms, not prawn.

[02:07:42] I actually was gonna tank, but I could tank his arms probably.

[02:07:49] So I hit level 4, I dung up heavily.

[02:07:54] Don't pretend like you know what classic warriors should feel like.

[02:07:57] I have done more 1 to 20 warriors than the majority of people out there, aslof, okay?

[02:08:03] Trust me, I have a lot of experience in the 1 to 20 range.

[02:08:06] A lot.

[02:08:07] Past that, you know, limited.

[02:08:12] 1 to 20?

[02:08:13] Yeah!

[02:08:14] Yeah, 1 to 20.

[02:08:15] A lot of experience at 1 to 20.

[02:08:19] And then from there I actually get really unlucky usually.

[02:08:24] One to 59 even, yeah, true.

[02:08:32] I mean so far I'm vibing with this guys, I got, yeah so far I'm vibing.

[02:08:37] We get a brand new chest, P67 armor.

[02:08:40] I'm not gonna go, I'm not gonna make you guys watch me wear a cloth chest on this play

[02:08:43] through alright, but.

[02:08:48] Erbilism or skinning? We'll go mining.

[02:08:56] Boop boop boop.

[02:08:59] 1.2 speed dagger. Do I have any passives? No.

[02:09:05] So we should put on the dagger, huh?

[02:09:09] Oh that goes dumb.

[02:09:11] It's actually not 1.2 speed, it's 1.6 speed, it's 1.2 DPS.

[02:09:18] Sorry, I misspoke there.

[02:09:22] Okay, so let's go to the warrior trainer and see if we can get like, charge or anything.

[02:09:28] Crippling poison dagger?

[02:09:29] Yeah, looks kinda weird, huh?

[02:09:31] I would like some training.

[02:09:32] I would like charge and rend, please.

[02:09:35] Oh gosh, not this.

[02:09:39] I

[02:09:50] Track I don't want anything except battle shell. Oh

[02:09:56] Gosh

[02:10:00] Do we drag in this for a while yo viper with 50 gifted subs and a minecraft going ham after that

[02:10:06] Yo, GGs! Holy crap! Yo, gifts are going dumb today. Thank you so much, guys.

[02:10:12] So we're talking about. I'm just gonna keep dragging all of these to the bottom.

[02:10:17] You hear me out. They should make it by default where it doesn't track anything.

[02:10:21] Or have a default where it says like, unselect all or something.

[02:10:28] This is nuts.

[02:10:31] Top right, bro.

[02:10:33] Oh, I almost like really set the default

[02:10:39] Yeah rip

[02:10:47] Love the Portugal hot

[02:10:54] Guys we're almost there

[02:10:59] Whoo, we did it. Okay, let's move

[02:11:03] Did they fix lag?

[02:11:07] Lag is not nearly as laggy.

[02:11:08] I have 220 FPS right now, 230, which is still a little lower than I normally would be, but

[02:11:15] like that's acceptable.

[02:11:16] Like that's in the realm of acceptable.

[02:11:20] You may not realize this, but everything you've done has been a trial of sorts, a test for

[02:11:24] what is to come.

[02:11:26] It's a big island out there and sephirists need spirit and young adventurers such as

[02:11:29] yourself where to survive the trials our people face.

[02:11:32] The one called Aethene of the Gaels is one of the leaders of our people here on Sephrys

[02:11:36] and she's been watching you.

[02:11:38] If she's a task you must complete, go speak with her to learn more.

[02:11:41] Okay.

[02:11:42] Oh, we get a new weapon from this.

[02:11:50] Or Sarah Scavengers collect the head of the Den Mother.

[02:11:53] Okay.

[02:11:54] So.

[02:11:55] of the highest quality. Where the heck do I get a mining pick from?

[02:12:04] General goods probably, huh? Cheers, bro, back at you, Neo.

[02:12:09] Gales greetings! Mining pick.

[02:12:15] Apprentice mining pack.

[02:12:18] You won't find where the higher quality of play red linen pad

[02:12:35] Okay, uh

[02:12:38] Thank thank thank you men. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you

[02:12:43] You rock

[02:12:45] Guys, this isn't what it looks like like this is really you got do not judge a book by its cover

[02:12:52] Do not judge a book by its cover

[02:13:02] This is different than it might seem this is exactly what it looks like no no, it's not

[02:13:08] This is not exactly what it looks like

[02:13:11] We're just we're just gaming out. I'm testing things

[02:13:15] What does it look like?

[02:13:25] I don't know.

[02:13:26] I don't know.

[02:13:27] What do you guys think it looks like?

[02:13:32] I'm using a dagger.

[02:13:37] Retail mobs.

[02:13:38] Okay, so this is like the first mob that definitely does feel a little more on the retail end

[02:13:43] of things. The color palette is actually like kind of okay, right? It's not like

[02:13:48] too vibrant or too out there, but just like the detailing is like a little too

[02:13:53] high for like a level 4 starting zone or maybe potentially anywhere. We talked

[02:13:59] about this a lot yesterday and the day before and the day before that. This is

[02:14:03] my first time actually experiencing it in its own.

[02:14:07] Um

[02:14:09] Yeah, I wouldn't mind them taking another pass on the art here and just being like, okay, let's dial it back

[02:14:20] Someone in my discord actually like empathize pretty well this morning

[02:14:27] Crab where was it

[02:14:37] Crap, okay, I forgot, I can't find it, but basically someone in my discord was saying

[02:14:45] something along the lines of like, imagine you're a retail artist, you get hired at Blizzard

[02:14:51] and you do the art for the past five or six years on retail and you're in a groove, you

[02:14:55] have your style down and people generally like what you're doing and this is all great.

[02:15:00] And then all of a sudden, you didn't sign up for Classic, by the way, you signed up

[02:15:04] for retail, retail art, that's your job description.

[02:15:07] And then all of a sudden, across your desk,

[02:15:09] it's, oh, we want you to make these super low HD,

[02:15:13] or SD things, because this is the new project

[02:15:16] we're working on, and it has nothing to do

[02:15:18] with your current art style, or nothing to do

[02:15:20] with what you're currently doing, and nothing to do

[02:15:22] with the stuff you've been doing for the past,

[02:15:25] however long, but you have to do this now.

[02:15:27] It's like, I can empathize a little bit.

[02:15:30] I was talking to my wife, my wife's an artist,

[02:15:32] and she was saying, like she empathizes a little too,

[02:15:35] but she also did tell me, yeah,

[02:15:37] but if you're hired to do that,

[02:15:39] then that's what you should do anyway.

[02:15:40] It's like, well, yeah, that's true.

[02:15:43] I think a nice middle ground might be,

[02:15:45] maybe this project needs its own art team.

[02:15:50] Maybe that's what it needs.

[02:15:52] Maybe with this massive influx of players,

[02:15:55] we actually just need an art team that's solely dedicated

[02:15:57] not to splitting their attention between retail and this,

[02:16:00] but it does the art for this and the style

[02:16:02] that this is meant for, right?

[02:16:05] And then I was chatting with Shannon about that

[02:16:07] and I think like that was kind of what she suggested too.

[02:16:09] Instead of trying to split the art team down the middle

[02:16:12] of like, okay, do retail assets that are like this

[02:16:15] and then try to do these ones that are completely different

[02:16:18] and said it's like, let's have just a team

[02:16:19] that does this stuff well

[02:16:21] and then the team that does the retail stuff really well.

[02:16:27] That means paying more people.

[02:16:29] Yeah, but I mean, I think this game, I mean,

[02:16:32] I guess I don't really know,

[02:16:33] but I think this game is gonna be insanely wildly popular.

[02:16:38] In other words, like it's justified

[02:16:40] to hire some people for it.

[02:16:42] I think that's proven at this point.

[02:16:45] You can't expect to build an incredibly wildly popular game

[02:16:48] without hiring the required amount of people, right?

[02:16:51] Like this is a season of discovery.

[02:16:54] Let's be honest, this is not season of discovery.

[02:16:56] This has the potential to be nuts.

[02:17:00] This thing is already just massive.

[02:17:04] So I think treating it like that and being like,

[02:17:07] okay, yeah, let's lock it in then.

[02:17:09] Like it kind of needs its own art team makes sense.

[02:17:23] Track or please, good comms.

[02:17:26] Wait, do I not have Track Aurea?

[02:17:30] Wait, how do I not have Track Aurea? Oh, it's under a profession tab.

[02:17:41] Press K. I actually use K as a key line, so I have to click on it.

[02:17:49] Use bleed and fights, please. I feel like Ren is kind of trolled to press early.

[02:17:56] What am I binding to K?

[02:18:00] I actually have K to reply whisper because I wanted R as an actual key bind because R

[02:18:05] is normally reply whisper but R is such a good key bind that I rekey bound reply to

[02:18:09] K because K is such a bad key bind so I use R as a key bind and K as reply.

[02:18:16] slash R or K. So I like this cave. This cave looks good. I think the creatures in the cave

[02:18:38] we've already talked about enough. But like the cave itself looks nice. The fog looks

[02:18:43] nice. It's clearly like a low level cave. Yeah, the environment team is is clearly

[02:18:51] just just just on another level like they're they're doing work man.

[02:19:03] For me to starting someone felt slower than others. It's kind of hard to tell. I'd have to like

[02:19:07] like look at like slash plate or something but feels like okay so far

[02:19:12] manner each generates here we go the ground is also nice yeah yeah thoughts

[02:19:19] on freeze I mean freeze seem really really sick

[02:19:28] there's a lot of running towards the end of the zone okay cool let me let me

[02:19:31] just like continue playing and checking it out we have to like go deeper in the

[02:19:36] cave to get the head from Ursina looks like so see what we can find over here oh a little

[02:19:43] copper vein I feel like you've turned tables on the theory wise video if you compare with

[02:19:58] the podcast can you explain yeah so I talked about this briefly this morning um but yeah

[02:20:04] Yeah, I think I can touch on it again.

[02:20:08] We have official channels to talk to the devs about feedback.

[02:20:15] That's awesome, by the way.

[02:20:17] A lot of big games do this.

[02:20:18] I'm glad that's the case.

[02:20:20] It's pretty cool.

[02:20:22] Talking on a podcast about the launch of something isn't the place to whine and complain about

[02:20:31] all the checklist of things that I personally want in the game.

[02:20:35] That's not the appropriate time and place to say,

[02:20:38] oh, by the way, can you do this?

[02:20:40] Well, it's a podcast about the launch of the game.

[02:20:42] It's not the time nor the place.

[02:20:44] And we have the channels for the time and the place for that.

[02:20:47] And I've been very annoying, of course,

[02:20:49] to them about the things that matter to me.

[02:20:54] So I hope I explained that this morning,

[02:20:57] but there's been quite a bit of people that have said that,

[02:20:59] So I hope that makes sense.

[02:21:01] I was more just trying to like read the room

[02:21:03] and didn't seem like a place to complain about things

[02:21:06] that seemed a place to shout about the launch experience.

[02:21:13] Of course that doesn't mean I didn't get any feedback

[02:21:15] but it wasn't the place to go to SuperD.

[02:21:20] Due to make sense 100% yeah,

[02:21:22] I think most people will understand that

[02:21:23] but just because we have been getting some questions.

[02:21:29] Persona.

[02:21:41] Restunned.

[02:21:42] I like to turn off that CC effect there.

[02:21:45] We're half HP here.

[02:21:46] Okay, I'm gonna have to lock in a dial against the Ursina.

[02:21:50] Okay, really have to lock in a dial against the Ursina.

[02:21:54] Bro, I can't wait to play Hardcore forever.

[02:21:57] It's gonna be so fun.

[02:21:59] Imagine this on hardcore my heart would be beating and I wouldn't have like health pods normally

[02:22:10] Okay, now we have to get the heck out of here

[02:22:16] Your heart isn't beating I mean it would be beating out of my chest faster and harder than ever before

[02:22:29] Okay, I feel like I know... Yeah, this cave is a similar cave to...

[02:22:33] Oh crap. Yeah, we're gonna... I mean, it's not hardcore, guys. So if we die, if we die,

[02:22:37] we're gonna run out of here. Do what we need to do.

[02:22:42] Actually, uh... Oh, that's not the right way.

[02:22:48] This is... This is not looking great. I forgot my warrior keybinds.

[02:22:52] I used a health thought no I misclicked it um I'm doing a speedrun guys so when

[02:23:00] you're doing speedruns what you want to do is actually die in that cave and then

[02:23:03] return to life like this and now you're back into the city instantly for the

[02:23:06] turn-ins I'll explain the tech later but all you need to know is this is much

[02:23:09] quicker and more efficient

[02:23:14] yep yep yep yep I just realized she I think is hamstring what about keybind

[02:23:21] heroic strike to you on a warrior

[02:23:24] She she go it up

[02:23:27] That's normally I do three

[02:23:29] Oh, no, maybe it's forward normally

[02:23:34] Anyway, all right great sword to hander 2.7 speeder mmm. I think we're going to enter boys

[02:23:44] Yo, do you have a five as well and we got a report into the village oh

[02:23:48] Oh, that's a big sword.

[02:23:53] That's a really big sword.

[02:24:01] 46 armor.

[02:24:06] Yeah, I'll look no further than that.

[02:24:08] I'll take it.

[02:24:09] Why Elf?

[02:24:10] I wanted to give my opinion on the starting zone.

[02:24:14] I've been hearing other people's opinions and the only way to form my own opinion is

[02:24:17] by doing it myself so that's why I wanted to play it myself.

[02:24:26] Retail sword um yeah I feel like the hilt I feel like the sword like the the sharp part

[02:24:38] is kind of chill the hilt is a little whimsical but that's being pretty nitpicky and pretty

[02:24:45] critical. I don't know. That's pretty critical. I think the sword doesn't bother me like these

[02:24:53] bother me. And these don't bother me as much as the bear forms bother me. And the bear

[02:25:01] forms don't even bother me as much as the UI. It's like a spectrum of how out of place

[02:25:05] does something feel. It's not like this binary. Is it out of place? Yes or no? It's like how

[02:25:09] out of place is this? Is it tiny bit out of place? It's very out of place. I feel like

[02:25:15] with a sword, it's like maybe slightly, but it's pretty chill.

[02:25:37] I don't remember my keybinds, bro.

[02:25:39] I might have to like go check out one of my videos

[02:25:40] on like what a keybind things to,

[02:25:42] I think three is Thunder Armor, two is Bloodthirst.

[02:25:46] Shift F is Whirlwind, F is Execute.

[02:25:49] R is Kick.

[02:25:54] It's definitely been a little bit.

[02:25:55] You were spamming three there,

[02:25:57] and maybe I'll just keep it on three for now.

[02:25:59] I think I had changed my keybinds later.

[02:26:02] Do you feel like you're playing classic or retail right now?

[02:26:05] It does feel like I'm playing classic well.

[02:26:07] I will say that.

[02:26:09] Retail doesn't feel anything like this at all.

[02:26:12] Retail is like, you're already level 30 by now,

[02:26:15] you're already flying around on mounts,

[02:26:17] you're already, you have a whole spellbook of abilities.

[02:26:21] This is just not feel Retail-y in the slightest.

[02:26:26] The look, you know, but in terms of like the feel

[02:26:28] and the gameplay, no, I wouldn't confuse this.

[02:26:32] No.

[02:26:42] Have you seen the new art style of Warcraft 3?

[02:26:57] I haven't yet.

[02:26:58] I played on the OG graphics when I played.

[02:27:08] like forever weirdly true now that sword is too much not at level five you mean

[02:27:16] like the size or like the fidelity game looks awful now that you can't turn off

[02:27:26] fog I think what they wanted to do with fog is like if you have an option to

[02:27:31] turn fog on and off and it's a literal benefit to PvP PvE to turn it off and

[02:27:37] Everyone's gonna start turning it off, and I don't think they wanted people to gain a visual benefit from turning off something

[02:27:44] That's supposed to be environmental

[02:27:46] Think that's the goal, but I don't know that's now would be my best guess

[02:28:00] Man, I love this slope. Hey, so classic Wow, I

[02:28:03] I really do. I also love warriors. Warriors are awesome.

[02:28:11] I have to say, I think warriors are more fun to level than mages.

[02:28:15] I think I'll say it. Like, warriors are awesome.

[02:28:18] I'm only level 5, but like, it's already reminding me. Like, I get to, like, hit things and press keybinds and, like, charge.

[02:28:24] With mage, it's very frostbill heavy.

[02:28:34] Okay, so I can charge up this lay line in like

[02:28:37] 15 seconds

[02:28:39] You're entitled to your wrong opinion. Thanks, man

[02:28:42] You're gonna go Pratt or arms

[02:28:46] Probably arms I might tank anyway though. We'll see

[02:28:50] Use rend

[02:28:52] I don't know if rend is even worth using at this level feels I usually don't at least

[02:28:57] Have I tried the swing timer? I don't like how it looks and since I'm not really like

[02:29:01] Like, sweating hard to min-max, I'm just gonna keep it off.

[02:29:07] I'll rent and crit now so it's good now, I'll really.

[02:29:31] Dude, energized as a warrior is just crazy.

[02:29:44] My health is just perma full.

[02:29:46] Zero downtime between mobs.

[02:29:48] Oh, oops.

[02:29:50] Oh, oops, thought that would meet me further there.

[02:29:56] Okay, this guy's for my quest.

[02:30:16] So as of right now, Rage-Gen feels like about the same as it was before.

[02:30:25] I don't know if that guy needed the class, true. I was gonna invite him, but I won't.

[02:30:35] Uh, Alliance.

[02:30:38] Blue leather bag? Yeah, we're locked in and dialed.

[02:30:46] five back slots yeah you have like a what's it called a profession slot what's it called

[02:31:12] Reagent slot, yeah, so I have a mining bag, it's pretty red.

[02:31:25] Okay, we got a pretty basic thank you there and now we're heading down the road.

[02:31:34] Let's go.

[02:31:36] There are leylines and Azeroth, but they're not nearly as plentiful.

[02:31:41] So, the 15 minute buff is almost never a 15 minute buff, it's usually more of a 15 second buff, hmmm.

[02:31:48] A 15 second, man, it's such a, I don't know, what do you guys think of that? Like, 15 seconds is so low.

[02:31:54] 15 minutes is so high, it's like if you find a Leyline's the best thing ever, if you don't, it's just like, completely worthless.

[02:32:02] Bad design, it's good, that's a big sword, it is a big sword.

[02:32:11] Gale Strider.

[02:32:39] stone wait why can I still loot this oh you can still use it for mana and health

[02:32:49] Oh, cool

[02:33:04] Okay, so those are the gale striders

[02:33:08] Definitely a little modern on the gale striders

[02:33:12] They're pretty muted though in my head I pictured them a little more

[02:33:17] or a Vibrant. The Pride Claws, you know, yeah, those don't really seem to fit. The Aesthetic

[02:33:25] as much. Gale Striders, Pride Claws. Oh, they have Bright Ones too. Oh, okay, maybe that's

[02:33:32] what I was thinking of. Yo, there we go, Team Six. Sit near the basic campfire for typing

[02:33:40] slash sit and wait until you receive the buff. Oh yeah.

[02:33:59] The Kale Striders are 50% retail with a Druid form is like 100%. I don't even know if I

[02:34:03] I would say a hundred, but like definitely higher.

[02:34:07] Your T-Binds brother, in-game share, remove spaces.

[02:34:14] How's Kai doing?

[02:34:15] He's doing great, man.

[02:34:47] The great outdoors.

[02:34:56] Cooking and mining.

[02:35:11] Raise your mining skill to 21st, I can do that.

[02:35:14] set our Hurst down to the new village guys I'm using it for for speed travel it

[02:35:29] is what it is had to saw two point almost three to four months bro this is

[02:35:35] like so not sawed if you've played it at all feel like there's gonna be any like

[02:35:42] More different than sod. Okay, that's not like completely true, but you know what I mean? It's it's just like so different, bro

[02:35:53] Let's see can someone sit in my group who's no one near me

[02:36:00] So I was not sitting

[02:36:04] Someone's just like a of K in a city

[02:36:06] I

[02:36:11] Saw it done then yep, she she'd ripped it's been done for like a year. It's over

[02:36:23] Um cool, I'm just gonna sit in a group

[02:36:36] Is it in edit mode?

[02:36:52] These new settings

[02:36:59] Raid frame colors, where are you new settings? Is it in edit mode?

[02:37:06] No, it's definitely near raid frames interface right here there

[02:37:11] I

[02:37:21] Raise mining the 20 learn cooking. Let's get cooking

[02:37:25] How do you think the devs at least understand why we're concerned about the art direction? Yeah. Yeah, totally

[02:37:33] Cooking I think they do I just hope like

[02:37:37] Honestly, my biggest hope is this.

[02:37:44] That the extreme popularity of the game proves to the higher ups in Blizzard that it's justified

[02:37:53] to hire an art team specific to this project and they can hone in on the exact art direction

[02:38:02] because there are sole purpose in job description reads to do so there's no

[02:38:08] split attention between I'm gonna do retail assets and try to get it to these

[02:38:11] it's I'm going to build assets that belong in forever that's my hope because

[02:38:17] that's really what it comes down to with with things that we yeah we'll see

[02:38:26] Greetings friend the high order

[02:38:29] Or of arcane energy that surrounds you is strong come let us sit and speak on the order

[02:38:34] Okay, I'm talking about arcane energy come young one sit with me. Okay

[02:38:42] Really enjoyed the Josh Josh Josh podcast things

[02:38:45] companies don't hire expecting profits they only hire after profits have

[02:38:55] arrived so it's very naive they are selling the game now so profits have

[02:39:06] arrived. So now would then be the time that it's proven to hire more people. Not six months

[02:39:20] ago, but now.

[02:39:34] Speak with the innkeeper. Let's move.

[02:39:41] Zephyrus will not fall.

[02:39:48] Zephyrus will not fall.

[02:39:51] What are those target frames?

[02:40:16] All my add-ons are here.

[02:40:18] I was like, dude, so many people were asking about add-ons.

[02:40:20] I actually took the time this morning

[02:40:22] to just put them all on Discord.

[02:40:23] So anytime someone asks, there's all in there, you see.

[02:40:31] Checked in with Arathiro then, great.

[02:40:33] Lots of tension between the Hyreder

[02:40:34] and the Windsheep shapers these days,

[02:40:36] but they keep things civil here in Shandar,

[02:40:38] well, at least in the village anyway.

[02:40:40] What happens out in the wild stays in the wilds.

[02:40:43] Now that that's done, you look like someone

[02:40:45] who might be looking for something to do with their hands.

[02:40:48] got a few things are you game I'm game let's do it so bandits badwin benek

[02:40:55] wooden shape or novice defeated seers let's do it actually there's a bunch of quest around here

[02:41:03] no I'm using an add-on for brother I wish

[02:41:06] Leather working. I don't know what I want. It's my second prof. I guess blacksmithing

[02:41:20] would make the most sense or in she. I don't know yet. Is there really good BS stuff to

[02:41:26] be to make or is I just go in she jump more shrew yes it's good maybe I'll do

[02:41:38] BS if there's new stuff similar to like tailoring that sounds kind of fun

[02:41:41] check out all the the new stuff

[02:41:49] there's definitely like I don't know it's actually pretty populated I was gonna

[02:41:53] say less people here but there's a good amount of people around here. So lots of

[02:42:00] good questing around here. Tons and tons of them. What do you think of the new zone

[02:42:05] so far? I think overall the environment looks good, the quests read well, they

[02:42:10] don't throw you into it too fast, things are explained, you get explanations of

[02:42:17] both your ratios, you get the low level gathering profession quest. Overall like

[02:42:22] I like it. I'd say the critiques on some of the new art assets being too

[02:42:28] retaily are very valid and I agree with them. I think there's varying levels of

[02:42:37] severity on some things like this sword. People are like oh well it's like

[02:42:45] way too big or looks like a retail sword. It's like well I think I don't know

[02:42:49] like the sword doesn't bother me like a ton but things like those owl bears that we talked about

[02:42:55] are like definitely much higher on the list of like oh crap more like these gale striders out here

[02:43:01] it's like I don't know

[02:43:07] I think that's bad that's kind of where I'm at I'm only level six so oh I never got my warrior

[02:43:11] training I just realized. Scroll of spirits. Oh this staff is actually an upgrade but I

[02:43:19] can't use staves yeah. It's that color palette and the geometry yeah. At this point the jump

[02:43:39] Counter is at 2,000 already. Yeah

[02:43:46] Literally just complaining about dumb stuff. I mean if if me looking at something and giving my

[02:43:53] Opinion is

[02:43:55] Complaining about dumb stuff that I don't know what to tell you man. I I want to be able to give my honest feedback

[02:44:00] So I'm sorry that upsets you. I

[02:44:03] I find the reach and ability way too strong really I think most people would argue it's way too weak

[02:44:09] But when you get it up for 15 minutes, it definitely does feel really strong

[02:44:16] Can you say button button

[02:44:33] I mean, bro, my health goes up like crazy out of combat with energized.

[02:45:00] mobs over this way. Becky, thanks for the T1. This location feels so empty. Really? I mean,

[02:45:10] I don't know if there's like a density issue in my mind at least.

[02:45:15] I think the environment looks really, really, really nice.

[02:45:24] This mob here definitely looks a little modern, you know?

[02:45:30] The web gives TBC vibes. It's not too crazy

[02:45:38] Empty space is important. Yeah, it definitely changes pacing when you add in space to just run across, right?

[02:45:50] One to ten, what do I rate forever so far? I

[02:45:56] Don't know like a nine maybe like there's there's things

[02:46:00] There's things but it's it's blown out. It's blown my expectations out of the water

[02:46:06] There's definitely things it's I think it's better than a lot of people expected it to be because it was such a

[02:46:14] Hard task to make everyone happy with everyone's different wishes, but it's pretty darn like they got the big stuff, right?

[02:46:22] I think at least for me

[02:46:24] And then they got, you know, a lot, you know, a lot of work to be done.

[02:46:31] They made everyone, like, 80% happy.

[02:46:33] Yeah, I feel like that's about 80% true.

[02:46:35] Yeah.

[02:46:36] They made, like, 80% of the people 80% happy.

[02:46:40] And, like, that doesn't actually sound like it's that good, but that's actually really

[02:46:43] good.

[02:46:44] In a world where you do a pull and everyone disagrees, I think that was, like, best case

[02:46:50] scenario outcome, really.

[02:46:52] It's not like everyone was on the same page of, this is exactly what we want.

[02:46:55] That was not the case.

[02:46:56] It was really polarized and split, it was like every opinion.

[02:47:00] So I think we are in kind of a best case scenario.

[02:47:03] Well, maybe not a best case scenario, but like pretty close to them.

[02:47:14] Do you have fine minerals on?

[02:47:15] Yeah.

[02:47:17] Fine minerals, FFS, guys, it's on.

[02:47:22] How is warrior?

[02:47:26] It feels fine so far but like I've been hearing a lot of complaints about warriors so we'll

[02:47:30] see.

[02:47:48] Is warrior so relevant as a tank?

[02:47:49] From what I'm hearing, it's like really strong, yeah.

[02:47:57] Does Elf start with a two-hander?

[02:47:58] No, it starts with a one-hander and shield, but I got this two-hander from a quest, although

[02:48:02] this two-hander is actually not that good.

[02:48:05] Oh wow, response behind me.

[02:48:08] Gotta pick up that Leyline too.

[02:48:13] Is there a reason to jump all the time?

[02:48:14] I'm new to WoW?

[02:48:15] Uh, yeah, yeah.

[02:48:16] There is.

[02:48:17] It's really important.

[02:48:26] Oh, is Akra going to take the lay lines from me?

[02:48:39] Or does it stay there?

[02:48:41] I know it stays there.

[02:48:43] Okay, I was going to say.

[02:48:44] That's brutal.

[02:48:46] All right, so lay lines, are they just static out in the world?

[02:48:53] I don't know why I assumed that they moved.

[02:48:57] Are they just like in certain spots, period?

[02:49:01] Oh, they do move.

[02:49:06] Some people saying they move and some people saying they're static.

[02:49:12] Tim's Prime.

[02:49:37] Most well-designed class so far, I think most people would agree that it's Paladin.

[02:49:42] Paladins got a lot of love and they're well designed in the sense that you have a rotation

[02:49:48] that's somewhat dynamic and interesting.

[02:49:53] A lot of people say Hunter is up there too, yeah.

[02:49:56] I haven't played a Hunter yet, but I think Paladin players are pretty happy with things.

[02:50:02] Actually not all of them, to be honest, but a lot of them are like, alright, the PvE rotation

[02:50:10] for ret like you have holy strike and then you have seal twisting so you have like two

[02:50:14] different seals that you're going to be using and then you have judgments and you have consecration

[02:50:20] and then hammer of wrath and the boss gets low that's not including any type of utility

[02:50:25] that you're going to be doing throughout the fight like a disfell of freedom of pop stuff

[02:50:29] like that.

[02:50:34] pretty cool. If you look at my HP it just like goes up so fast at this, so nice. I'd

[02:50:53] say the classes that are molding the most about their class design are probably warriors,

[02:50:58] mages and rogues because they got very very few changes but the reality of the

[02:51:03] situation is like those are the three classes that needed the least changes so

[02:51:07] we've talked about that quite a bit already but if you're if you're new

[02:51:10] around here Pali needed a lot of love it simply did those classes didn't as much

[02:51:17] right

[02:51:28] Dented chest, mine.

[02:51:48] The problem with warriors though is not only we got any meaningful changes but we got absolutely

[02:51:51] nerfed going from the most AP invitation classic to be happy if we can press Bloodthirst World

[02:51:56] Yeah, so I watched along those video yesterday on the deep dive into that and I guess we'll see, right?

[02:52:02] We'll see where things end up, but I think mage players are in the same boat where they didn't get too...

[02:52:08] I mean, you know, they got some changes, but not too many similar to Warriors.

[02:52:11] Maybe even less than Warrior, and they also got nerfed, right? Kona-Kold is nerfed, Blizzard is nerfed.

[02:52:19] Right, so they're... we got nerfed and they didn't get a lot of meaningful stuff. Mages, I think, feel similarly,

[02:52:23] but like I said like maybe that's a good thing right maybe that's a good thing

[02:52:27] because I think mainly Blizzard wants to kill a we grinding for mages because of

[02:52:34] bots I think they're trying to hit the bot angle from like every possible angle

[02:52:38] and mages and dungeons soloing dungeons can be very problematic for potting I

[02:52:44] think I think that's what it comes down to

[02:52:53] Okay, we're killing the level 7 Matriarch here.

[02:53:21] These are Hippogriffs.

[02:53:22] Hippogryphs were introduced in TBC or were there any Hippogryphs in Classic? I'm trying to remember.

[02:53:32] Invite this guy to the curb to get killed credit.

[02:53:36] Oh, Feralis. Yeah, true.

[02:53:40] Nice, nice.

[02:53:45] Well, wait a second for the health regen. I don't even need to eat, bro.

[02:53:52] Ren now activates overpower. Interesting. If you're balancing a game based on the bots

[02:54:02] might do this, it's pretty bad. I think that's a fair point. I think that's a fair point.

[02:54:09] I really do. I also think it's just worth mentioning that bots ruining the economy also

[02:54:16] just sucks and yeah like bots are in the economy like doesn't doesn't feel great so hitting bots

[02:54:28] from as many angles as possible to make it so that buying and selling gold is not a thing as

[02:54:34] limited as much as possible so the economy stays as healthy as possible is is awesome so hopefully

[02:54:41] I don't know it's an extreme measure, but I hope that I hope it helps

[02:54:50] They need to go nuclear on the buyers they said they would like publicly they publicly said we're going crazy on the buyers this time

[02:54:57] Of course, they're gonna continue banning the bots, but they're gonna ban the buyers. They're also

[02:55:01] Stopping the aoe grinding. They're hitting it from every angle like that. That's not that's kind of what I mean when I say like

[02:55:09] It's not

[02:55:11] It's not like they're just trying to do like one angle of it

[02:55:16] They're trying to hit it from every possible angle to minimize it from every angle possible

[02:55:20] To minimize it as much as possible. So it's like, oh well that sucks

[02:55:23] It's like well, do you want them to try to hit it from every angle or not? I think that's kind of

[02:55:29] questions

[02:55:35] Dassy thanks for the few one the lion thinks the front yeah, I can't wait to play on them release as well, man

[02:55:41] Did you look at last week's raid numbers in TBC?

[02:55:49] I did.

[02:55:50] It's crazy, bro.

[02:55:53] A small sacrifice for a big benefit?

[02:55:56] Essentially, that's what it is, yeah.

[02:55:58] But as an age player, I empathize.

[02:56:01] I did AoE grinding when I was 14 years old, so it feels weird to not have that.

[02:56:05] By the way, I need warrior training and I need to hit level 7 because I'm getting weak

[02:56:09] right now, man.

[02:56:11] The rating population is cut in half from last week almost.

[02:56:21] So we'll see.

[02:56:22] I think next week we might see another massive drop off and the next week it'll probably

[02:56:26] be another massive drop off.

[02:56:28] So you know, it was to be expected.

[02:56:31] It was to be expected.

[02:56:32] Actually one of the things that I was saying a lot of is, you know, I didn't know when

[02:56:39] the thing was coming out.

[02:56:40] It's like, are they gonna launch it after Wrath?

[02:56:43] Or are they gonna Shadow Shrop after Bluestone?

[02:56:45] And part of me was hoping they waited till after Wrath.

[02:56:48] Why?

[02:56:49] Well, you just let TBC play out, let players have fun.

[02:56:52] It's good.

[02:56:53] Let Wrath come out, let players have fun, it's good.

[02:56:55] You don't compete with that, and then you do it.

[02:56:56] But hey, I'm happy that we get it sooner.

[02:56:59] They don't have to wait another year and a half,

[02:57:00] so that's good.

[02:57:01] The downside is, yeah, I think a lot of people's

[02:57:04] Wrath guilds or TBC guilds that would have been Wrath

[02:57:07] are just just gg'd right that's just part of it it was to be expected our

[02:57:13] warriors cooked everyone is trying about the rage normalization they probably

[02:57:18] need some type of extra non-scaling rage generation so unbridled wrath might need

[02:57:27] a buff I think it's more likely that future content will be better tuned to

[02:57:32] the art style people are asking for I think the only exception is the druid

[02:57:37] I think that's right. Yeah, I I don't think

[02:57:42] The expectation of redoing the stuff that's already in the game is probably a good one

[02:57:47] But I mean who knows maybe I was actually thinking I was talking yesterday imagine blizzard

[02:57:54] Today comes out with like a tweet in a video saying like hey guys

[02:57:58] We heard you on the bear form we tuned this down to fit with classic and you know

[02:58:02] It's like the one that was on reddit like trending and everyone like everyone would just be like

[02:58:08] Pracing blizzard through the roof holy crap. They listened our voice matters and this looks good

[02:58:15] Like it would just be like the biggest possible PR move you'd be a praise to the heavens

[02:58:20] It would set the game off on the right foot of like look we mean it when we say we're listening to you guys

[02:58:26] It would just be insane

[02:58:28] But they're not gonna do that. I don't think so

[02:58:30] No, it went like Blizzard if you're if you're listening like you want some good PR and you want like

[02:58:38] See probably worth doing just saying probably worth doing people would go crazy over that

[02:58:46] But yeah, no, I agree that's those expectations are just yeah, you're right

[02:59:00] And we are just out here grinding mobs and we're gonna turn in all these quests. It's gonna be just a massive dope

[02:59:12] That would make me buy the collectors edition today now you're speaking their language there we go

[02:59:30] bro just a subbed after like two years and hoping to see El done the role leveling just

[02:59:41] Yeah, yep, so nice man so nice

[03:00:02] Are you doing library books for bring a neck I did on my mage, I'm not doing them again. I took a long time

[03:00:11] This sword is a recolor of a TBC leveling sword called the Bloodhawk Flaymore.

[03:00:21] Oh really?

[03:00:22] Cool.

[03:00:23] So it is...

[03:00:24] Some people said it looked like a TBC asset.

[03:00:25] Sla, thanks for the prime.

[03:00:27] Mara thinks of the Prime.

[03:00:46] What is your opinion of possibly going to Northrend eventually since it isn't Azeroth?

[03:00:52] I don't love going to Northrend because, well, okay, it depends how it's done.

[03:00:57] Valorant should not be there, a new main city should not be there, because if a new main

[03:01:02] city is there and you don't go to Stormwind in Orgammar and there's no reason to really

[03:01:06] go to the Old World, like, that sucks.

[03:01:08] That's the problem.

[03:01:09] But if they make it so where you're not overly incentivized to be there and it's like maybe

[03:01:14] smaller and like, there's just some content to do there, but then you have to, you know,

[03:01:20] you leave and you come back.

[03:01:21] I think that would maybe work. It's a little scary to think about though.

[03:01:32] Hey, thanks for the $10 donation. I'm glad that you

[03:01:36] enjoy the content. So the way horizontal progression works is when you're in full tier 3 and you're

[03:01:41] fully kitted, what doesn't happen is a new raid comes out and you replace every single piece of

[03:01:48] gear that you've already have. Oh is this an elite mob? Oh my gosh. We might need a level

[03:01:56] eight elite mob. I don't have hamstring, I can't solo this. Cool, I actually like that.

[03:02:04] Want to group for this one? With hamstring I could do it, but...

[03:02:09] in so yeah what doesn't happen is like every tier you completely replace your

[03:02:19] entire gear set all right Tim's prime let's lock this in I'll tank this thing

[03:02:32] Alright Tim finish them off. I'm out of here. Oh yeah. Cool we got that. Sorry to finish

[03:02:50] that terrain of thought. Like in retail you know the raid comes out you replace every

[03:02:56] single piece of gear and the old content is no longer worth doing. If you go into retail

[03:03:01] So the only content we're doing is the most recent raid.

[03:03:04] It gives you far better items in the previous raid, you would never do the old raids, and

[03:03:09] all your gears are placed.

[03:03:11] Now, horizontal progression in this game will still have some vertical aspects, of course,

[03:03:15] you have to.

[03:03:16] Right, so the new raid is going to give you some better gear, or else you wouldn't want

[03:03:19] to do it.

[03:03:21] But your old gear will still be okay.

[03:03:24] Your old gear, in terms of set bonuses, might still be better than the new gear, so you

[03:03:29] You might use a few pieces from the new raid, mixed with a few pieces from the older raids,

[03:03:34] but not only that, the older raids will still be worth running because they drop valuable

[03:03:40] gear in them.

[03:03:41] So there's like multiple components to this.

[03:03:44] If you're a new player coming in, you don't just skip to the newest raid, you do all the

[03:03:48] older raids because they will prepare you for some of the more difficult stuff, but

[03:03:53] But also, there is just some good items that you use on the more difficult stuff.

[03:04:00] What other components?

[03:04:01] The strength doesn't just double and triple and quadruple over the course of a year.

[03:04:06] So if you've played a retail expansion, when you start the retail expansion, I'm just

[03:04:09] making these numbers up, you might start at like 100,000 life, I'll need that for a second.

[03:04:14] And then when you are at the end of the expansion, you might have like 500,000 life.

[03:04:20] to your HP bar, like 5X's at the same level.

[03:04:25] I don't think they plan to do that with this game.

[03:04:26] I think what they plan to do is more something

[03:04:29] along the lines of, you know, a new tier comes out

[03:04:33] and you will have more stamina

[03:04:35] and it will be better pieces,

[03:04:36] but it's not like you're each tier,

[03:04:38] you're gonna double or triple your life total.

[03:04:40] It's not like each tier, you're gonna have 50% more life

[03:04:43] than the one before that.

[03:04:44] So the point is, if you take a break for a year

[03:04:47] and then you come back,

[03:04:49] Your character is not completely out of date. Of course, you're not going to be completely up to date either.

[03:04:53] But you'll still be able to take a break for a year, come back, and then be like,

[03:04:56] Okay, what's some, like, you know, hop into some raids. Like, you kind of would in Clasik Era.

[03:05:01] So this is a really, like, long, complicated answer, but hopefully Pseudo-Michael just answered the question for you.

[03:05:10] We got Hoony Coon into the T1. I think Northrend could happen if there's five zones spread out through the level range.

[03:05:15] is one to six with one level sixty seven same herbs and mining as a surah

[03:05:22] uh it's kind of scary maybe maybe

[03:05:29] maybe maybe maybe

[03:05:38] no new land masses yeah i'm i'm i'm probably more of the opinion of no new land masses as well

[03:05:44] It's just really scary once you get too many people on a different landmass and eastern kingdoms in Kalimdor are less and less incentivized actually

[03:05:53] Go to right

[03:06:09] What profession am I gonna run on a rogue I have no idea man

[03:06:14] How would you approach PvP tiers?

[03:06:16] Very similarly. Each tier should probably give you a new set bonus.

[03:06:20] If you don't have the most up-to-date tier,

[03:06:23] you can still compete pretty well in your old tiers.

[03:06:27] And the new tiers should look different, so you get like an aesthetic flavor as

[03:06:31] well. But it shouldn't just be every new

[03:06:34] tier gives you twice the amount of life, so if you don't have it you're screwed.

[03:06:44] Watched the podcast last night. It was good. I thought you enjoyed it, man.

[03:07:00] Are doing the old raids mandatory or could you only do the ones that interest you?

[03:07:03] I think the point of horizontal progression is all of the raids are worth doing.

[03:07:08] Although if you want to skip them you probably could as well, but like there would be some value in going back and doing old content

[03:07:16] It wouldn't be just 100% skippable if you want to try to min-max your character. It's not like you can just

[03:07:25] It's just straight up not care about it. So some examples from Season of Discovery

[03:07:30] Season of Discovery introduced Scarlet Enclave. Scarlet Enclave was the new raid

[03:07:35] And there was really good gear from it

[03:07:38] But if you were a mage, you still wanted a Q gear

[03:07:43] because the two set from a Q was still really good.

[03:07:46] And you still wanted like mind quickening gems.

[03:07:48] You might do BWL.

[03:07:51] And you still wanted your Nax, what was it?

[03:07:55] Like, was it the Nax two set or something

[03:07:59] or one of the Nax sets?

[03:08:01] So you would still do Nax for your trinkets

[03:08:04] and for your set bonuses.

[03:08:05] You'd still do a Q for your set bonuses.

[03:08:07] So like, it would still give you reasons to go do this, especially if you wanted to, you know, be optimal.

[03:08:13] And not only that, the difficulty of the new raid was set up in a way where you're like, you kind of had to too.

[03:08:17] You couldn't just skip to the new content.

[03:08:19] That's the biggest thing I want to avoid.

[03:08:21] Like, the way retail is set up is the new tier comes out and you never look back at that old raid.

[03:08:29] That's the biggest thing to avoid in my opinion.

[03:08:31] On a new character, you just go straight into the newest stuff.

[03:08:37] Our raid night's gonna be long for guilds then. I think if you're in a guild

[03:08:42] You'll probably stop raiding the stuff that your guildies don't need anymore and that's fine

[03:08:48] You know it's not like you're gonna do every raid every week forever

[03:08:52] Just like 30 raids like no there'll be people like maybe you have some new players in the guild that needs some old stuff

[03:08:58] Maybe you will hit the old raids, but at some point you're gonna have the stuff you need and stop

[03:09:37] I'm in it right now. I'm like like honestly it's it's pretty good like it's pretty good

[03:09:43] I think the art assets are a very like valid critique, but

[03:09:49] The questing seems good the pacing seems good the landscape seems good

[03:09:54] The you know the bird I'm fighting right now seems maybe a bit modern some of the owls before seem a bit modern

[03:10:00] Overall like I'm having fun

[03:10:02] It's not like they're throwing you into the game like super quick or anything like that, right? All the big stuff is right

[03:10:11] The

[03:10:13] You know like the pride claw art asset the gale strider art asset, maybe could use some work

[03:10:32] I think streamers have successfully killed my height for this game, whining about every

[03:10:59] little thing we deserve to have this game fail at this point good luck yeah man

[03:11:04] I if this sounds like whining to you then I don't know what to tell you dude I

[03:11:10] want to be able to give my valid criticisms I want a space to be able to

[03:11:14] give critiques that's what a beta is for so I don't know what to tell you

[03:11:29] I think there's this, I talked about this the other day, but there's this like,

[03:11:33] there's this interesting phenomenon when something new comes out, like a new retail

[03:11:38] expansion or a new game and this and that, like you don't have like permission to give criticism.

[03:11:47] There's this, there's this like a, this thought process that you, you have to be positive about

[03:11:53] everything and it's like well what what if what if you think something needs a critique how about

[03:12:01] you say it in a positive way and then i'll be lifting in critical way and and try to make the

[03:12:06] game better right not hating on it not whining but nice we got parry amp under cloud i think being

[03:12:18] I think being allowed to have criticisms is a good thing.

[03:12:23] It's only gonna help the game.

[03:12:25] Okay, so there's a one strength shield,

[03:12:27] but I probably won't level with a shield.

[03:12:29] So I'll probably go for this cloak.

[03:12:30] I actually don't have a cloak at all, so that's good.

[03:12:33] Ooh, speaking of another criticism,

[03:12:36] I wanna hide my cloak,

[03:12:38] but I can't hide my cloak until I get to a city.

[03:12:41] Oh, we have someone giving us a Tabard from our guild.

[03:12:45] Thank you.

[03:12:47] Now we're tripped out in our tabbered boys, let's go

[03:12:52] No level eight as well

[03:12:55] Take that so I want to be able to hide my tabber or my cloak

[03:12:59] But I can't in the settings anymore. You have to go to a transmog guy. I

[03:13:03] Wonder if that's like a technical limitation or if that's something they could add

[03:13:08] Okay, so here's hamstring nice now that I have hamstring it's game over boys like we can we can play the game now

[03:13:13] Let's lock this in and dial it

[03:13:16] Dalton, thanks for the tier one, Brandy, thanks for the prime, Jack, thanks for the prime.

[03:13:20] We got a super chat from CaptainSan. It's crazy how we had Blood Elves since 2006 and it took them 20 years to add the

[03:13:25] Chris Bell. Oh, okay, yeah. Captain, nice super chat.

[03:13:30] Freem, thanks for the super chase. What if they had a stat baseline to keep raids in line, et cetera.

[03:13:34] Tier one is plus 10 strength, the next tier is plus 15, and then when tier three comes out, it's 15 strength, and tier two

[03:13:39] drops down to a baseline at the rest of plus 10.

[03:13:42] I don't think it ever feels good to lose stats on an item that you already have

[03:13:48] personally. I don't know if I like that.

[03:13:54] Hiding your cloak is such a nitpick thing not to like. Yeah that's fair.

[03:13:58] That's nitpicky but I think I think like the big thing to me is like if you

[03:14:08] have a criticism to say it in like a constructive way and not just be like

[03:14:11] lining about it on a forums in all caps saying like you know this sucks I'm out

[03:14:19] like it's like dude like that that's kind of like the thing that bothers me it's

[03:14:22] like come on man let's at least be constructive about your criticism

[03:14:30] can't hide a cloak I knew this was retail L game I'm gonna laugh when it

[03:14:36] fails like that's the stuff that's like yeah come on like I agree there like

[03:14:39] geez

[03:14:46] okay I need to find a lay line ASAP because my HP is not looking good boys

[03:14:56] can you explain how you orient your keyboard I'm confused how you hit the

[03:15:00] cheeky. I just hit it with my pointer finger. Okay, so I'm feeling, I'm feeling weak now

[03:15:09] without that lane line. We're level eight on the warrior level one through five felt

[03:15:12] Really strong now. It's like all right. We need to lock this in and dial it

[03:15:34] Oh, there's like a secret waterfall over here check this out. Oh, it looks like there's a lay line in there, too

[03:15:38] Maybe I'll have to go potentially grab that

[03:15:42] Oh, this is pretty cool. Bandit hideout sanctuary. You go under the waterfall and it's like a

[03:15:48] little mini cave here. There's a leyline in the back of the cave and then some dudes to

[03:15:52] kill and then like it looks like the boss is back there. Okay, so I really like this.

[03:15:56] This is rad. I don't know what that thing is or that thing. Maybe another quest that

[03:16:01] I missed. Yeah, I'm grabbing this for sure. How do you find leylines? They're on your

[03:16:09] mini-map which is actually pretty nice. I didn't know that until you guys told me, so

[03:16:14] shout out shout on that one.

[03:16:24] Is it wrong if I want warriors to at least feel competitive in world pvp? I understand level

[03:16:29] 20 cap could change just in fights they die so many times. I don't know how to say this but in

[03:16:35] and world PVP warriors are awesome if you're in a group.

[03:16:40] You're level 60, you throw some faps out.

[03:16:44] Like there are warriors are dope, dope, dope.

[03:16:46] Oh, let's see if we invite this guy.

[03:16:52] If you're in a group keyword.

[03:16:54] Yeah, yeah.

[03:16:54] And like I think the, so if that's tripping people up,

[03:16:58] if you're in a group part,

[03:16:59] then that, then if that's truly your question,

[03:17:02] and I think that is a fair thing to complain about

[03:17:07] but it's also what you have to realize

[03:17:09] is that you can't be strong at everything, right?

[03:17:12] Like not every class can be a 1v1 specialist.

[03:17:17] This guy's completely naked next to me.

[03:17:19] Scarlet 2 Sunseam, okay.

[03:17:23] So warriors, for example, in Classic Era

[03:17:28] are incredible in a battleground.

[03:17:30] They're incredible in world PvP.

[03:17:31] They're incredible as a tank, they're incredible in a raid, they're incredible, you know, top DPS and single target and in Cleave, but, you know, they're not as good at dueling.

[03:17:39] So you could have the complaint of, oh well, every class should be able to duel, but the part of the thing that makes Classic Classic is not homogenizing classes to all feel good in all aspects of the game,

[03:17:50] but instead understanding that your class might not be good at some parts of the game and be good at other parts of the game.

[03:17:58] So if you want warriors to be good in group PvP and be solo specialists, then like I might say, well, that's not really what classic is, but if you, you know, didn't know warriors are fantastic in world PvP, but you need to be in a group.

[03:18:14] Yeah, once you go too far down the road of, well, my class isn't good in Dungeons, while

[03:18:25] my class isn't good at AoE, let me get more AoE, while my class isn't good at Cleave,

[03:18:31] while my class doesn't have as much mobility, then it becomes homogenization through mobility

[03:18:37] creep, through AoE creep, and then it just gets, we've already been down that road, we've

[03:18:42] We've already done that. We've already played that experiment out to its ends. We have retail.

[03:18:46] Congratulations, right? So I don't think we need to do that again.

[03:18:56] Which is cool. It's cool that we've already done it once so we can say, okay, let's take a different path here.

[03:19:04] So I think it's much better to be like, like, so I'm a mage, for example.

[03:19:08] get absolutely dumpstered by Druid's priests and locks in the era.

[03:19:15] I could say, wow, this sucks, try to balance this, or it's just like, that's the game,

[03:19:21] bro.

[03:19:22] You beat warriors hard, right?

[03:19:24] You beat pallies hard.

[03:19:26] You get dumpstered by some things, and you dumpster other things.

[03:19:29] That's how it goes, right?

[03:19:32] In Moltencore, when you're like frost and you haven't gone fire yet, your TPS is going

[03:19:36] to be like crazy low.

[03:19:38] on rag you actually do pretty decent damage but you know for the most part you kind of need to like

[03:19:42] end game fire to come online until then you're kind of not doing a lot and it's like well it's

[03:19:46] just how it goes you know so I don't know I think and what I'm trying to say is accepting that some

[03:19:54] aspects of your class are going to be weak and if you really want to be strong at that specific

[03:20:01] aspect and your class doesn't do that then the answer is re-rolling to a class that does

[03:20:06] And if you keep that in line, what you end up with is a game with class identity,

[03:20:12] because that's literally what class identity means.

[03:20:15] And if you start fracturing that, and you give every class everything,

[03:20:20] then you remove class identity, and that's what removing class identity literally is.

[03:20:25] So, in order to keep class identity, you have to be okay with some classes being weak at certain things,

[03:20:32] and some classes being strong at certain things.

[03:20:36] That's a long answer, but hopefully that makes sense.

[03:21:06] Okay, so we turn in the windstones, complete the quest, we get our XP, got another quest

[03:21:11] complete over here.

[03:21:14] My mining skill is still not 20.

[03:21:21] Gales greetings!

[03:21:23] Ooh, big leg upgrade.

[03:21:28] You may or may not be aware of this, but Sania Silverstrom over there is a missionary for

[03:21:32] the Al-Aqat.

[03:21:33] They like to play at being normal religious order and send non-threatening emissaries around a recruit

[03:21:37] We've tolerated Sanya so far to avoid direct conflicts with the cult

[03:21:41] But it's obvious the illusion of peace won't last much longer

[03:21:43] You are new here and unknown the most so I'd like to see if you can get Sanya to get close to the cult and find out

[03:21:49] What their plans are for the village okay cool, so this is where like the

[03:21:53] The hostility between these two groups is starting I think

[03:21:58] Oh, whoops, I want these legs.

[03:22:09] Tell me a class on both good DPS heal spec, please.

[03:22:13] PvP only.

[03:22:15] A class that has- oh, I like how this is like an enemy.

[03:22:22] They're literally like- it has like an enemy name play.

[03:22:27] to Missionary Chesson near the entrance to Falloth Village.

[03:22:32] If you lose your mark of a cure, speak to Sonia to redeem the effect.

[03:22:36] Oh, interesting.

[03:22:38] Oh, yeah, I would say Priest, yeah.

[03:22:40] You could play Shadow Priest if you want a deep smore,

[03:22:43] but you can also heal if you want to go just if you want to heal.

[03:22:45] Noria, thanks for the T1, man.

[03:22:49] So we need more mining skill here.

[03:22:57] Mark of Akir, let's members of the Alakath know that you're friendly, okay?

[03:23:03] Let's go check out the other village then.

[03:23:05] Falaf.

[03:23:11] Does anyone know about the 1v1 PvP event?

[03:23:14] We'll release more info when we know it, basically.

[03:23:18] I always thought the jumpers are kids overdosing on dopamine.

[03:23:27] I guess not.

[03:23:28] The jumper?

[03:23:29] Yeah.

[03:23:30] It's really PvPers.

[03:23:31] PvPers as a spam jump.

[03:23:34] I think that's usually what it is.

[03:23:43] Okay, let's cross the bridge, see what's over there.

[03:23:58] I don't even think about it by the way, I just like, I swear I'm not trying to annoy

[03:24:01] anyone by spam jumping, I just straight up do it.

[03:24:05] What's my HUD?

[03:24:06] All my add-ons are here.

[03:24:08] Can I get up to this?

[03:24:13] use my racial oh my gosh that works nice I did nothing that was gonna work not

[03:24:24] not pervane. Okay, my mining is level seven now, so we're L indeed. How long have you

[03:24:44] would peak up in friends. Um, I first carried him in 2013 in

[03:24:54] threes, then in RBGs, then in fives. Then in much later back

[03:25:03] in threes and then plunder storm. Then in classic wow. Rating

[03:25:10] Dungeons, yeah, I'd say like 13 like 10 plus 10 plus years easy for a long time. Yeah

[03:25:26] I miss plunder

[03:25:33] The lost village

[03:25:35] Look around for the village to learn about the cult's intentions in the Shandar Highlands.

[03:25:41] So is this just the Horde starting zone?

[03:25:47] So Fendal Village, if you're Horde where do you start?

[03:25:52] Oh no it's not, okay.

[03:25:55] If you're Horde you also start in Fendal and then you go to Shandar and I'm trying to figure

[03:26:00] out where the split is.

[03:26:03] So they all start in the same spot.

[03:26:06] Holy crap, I need a new weapon.

[03:26:16] Until we meet again.

[03:26:18] Learn about the cultist plans.

[03:26:19] Okay, Exidor thinks of the prime.

[03:26:26] Why am I not going to play Skyborne Mage at launch?

[03:26:31] I was thinking about it, but I don't want to get bullied for being a blue up or uh, I prefer

[03:26:37] Noem.

[03:26:38] Uh, NateSaid, thanks for the Super Chat.

[03:26:41] Uh, thanks for the shout out on the Owl Bear Druid model.

[03:26:45] Oh, NateSaid, you're the guy that, you're the guy that made the, the form, bro.

[03:26:49] I thought you crushed it.

[03:26:51] I really think Blizzard should use your model, NateSaid.

[03:26:55] A lot of people like what you've done, so that's the kind of style that I think they

[03:27:00] should go with so anyway well done thanks for the super chat what is my

[03:27:18] favorite change so far I think it's literally just the fact that we now

[03:27:26] have an Azeroth that's not going anywhere because in era you knew it was gonna end and you knew

[03:27:32] there would be no more patches. I think I'm literally just happy that we have a place to call home

[03:27:37] again as WoW players. I haven't been able to say that since since I played retail all the time which

[03:27:45] has been six years or something. It's a long time. Is WarriorCooked or people overacting? Check out the

[03:27:55] Alondo video on YouTube is incredibly good. I think there's reason for concern, but

[03:28:02] You know, it's it's not it's it's fine. I

[03:28:06] It will probably be fine

[03:28:09] But warriors probably do need some extra rage gen talents because of rage normalization

[03:28:15] aka buffing and bridal wrath or a new talent that gives them some extra rage gen but

[03:28:20] As of right now, they don't have that so like like I think they need a little more cooking in other words

[03:28:25] Okay, so this quest we want to learn about the Coltis plans by hiding behind here

[03:28:32] Ready to carry out your will and I move on the Western wash tower and commands or Silas will lead

[03:28:37] The attack on Shender village. Oh, no, we have to stop this

[03:28:41] The great work is nearly complete sky freeze Anders your success here is vital. Okay. We definitely have to stop

[03:28:46] Yo guys got some big news got some big news

[03:28:50] They're attacking us

[03:28:55] I think a lot of it's just for leveling too.

[03:29:25] though aslof not just endgame shadow priests look super fun I actually might

[03:29:36] make a priest at some point like I said my favorite part of wow forever guys is

[03:29:40] simply the fact that like I haven't playing well my whole life and I think

[03:29:45] one of the big issues is the expansion model like the fact that the game

[03:29:49] vertically progresses forever and like the fact that we can just be in Azeroth

[03:29:52] forever and play the game and enjoy ourselves and not just uh you know every two years an

[03:30:01] expansion comes out and changes everything and adds an entire new like oh we're going to a whole

[03:30:06] new world say goodbye to all this like I love that I love the fact that we have a wow to just

[03:30:10] we can sit in Stormwind or Ironforge like and know that it's just not going to be meaningless in

[03:30:15] another year or six months like Season of Discovery was fun but we knew it would come to an end

[03:30:20] Classic era was fun, but we knew it would come to an end

[03:30:22] Right retail is fun in its own way, but like every you know that it's gonna in two years

[03:30:28] There's gonna be no expansion, you know, so it's you know, it's I love that. We just have a permanent Wow now

[03:30:34] You know, that's my favorite thing

[03:30:36] That's my favorite thing

[03:30:41] Bro I play era and raid max every week what well what I mean by era

[03:30:46] ending is the fact that you know they'll never be new content in an era.

[03:30:50] You know there's never going to be a new raid.

[03:30:52] If you're loving era and you're raiding Naxx every week, I think that's awesome.

[03:30:56] What I mean by it comes to an end is the fact that you get your best in slot

[03:31:01] and they'll never be another item to get, they'll never be another raid.

[03:31:04] That's what I mean.

[03:31:05] But hey man, if you're okay with never having new content and doing the same stuff,

[03:31:09] like that's awesome, like nothing wrong with that.

[03:31:16] Bro wanted to just tell people he raids Naxx, Naxx raiding is pretty sick.

[03:31:24] Also, side note, no world buffs is massive.

[03:31:32] No world buffs is stupid.

[03:31:36] I actually want to go with the skimitar, scimitar, just because it looks so cool.

[03:31:44] What else call skimmies skimmies because of playing RuneScape as a kid and like, similar

[03:31:50] to sound so weird.

[03:31:53] Simiter.

[03:31:54] It'll always be skimmy in my mind.

[03:32:06] Gales greetings.

[03:32:07] I'll sell all the meat.

[03:32:11] Boom boom.

[03:32:13] Okay, got some lunch out there guys. I think I'm gonna go get some lunch real quick

[03:32:18] Get rid of that rod

[03:32:24] Okay, I

[03:32:29] Would like an option to hide my cloak outside of the transmog fender that would be cool man that tabard school

[03:32:33] I wonder who made that guys. I'll be right back

[03:32:35] I'm gonna get some food should be a few minutes and we'll keep leveling the warrior so far. I'm liking it man

[03:32:42] I'm liking it

[03:32:43] There's things, but I'm liking it.

[03:32:45] Hereby.

[03:32:46] My UI add-on to our own discord, guys.

[03:32:48] Hereby.

[03:41:13] I

[03:41:15] I

[03:41:39] Boy's what back what back

[03:41:45] We're back pay those keyboard clip. I do not want to watch that

[03:41:51] Let's go this way I need a new lay line

[03:41:56] I'm gonna jump off this cliff and then use my slow-fall thing wasn't rice and beef again. I actually ate some tuna today

[03:42:04] Whoo, I'll look at that water dude sick

[03:42:11] Wait, I don't get over there

[03:42:15] I guess we got this one.

[03:42:17] I'm eating tuna right now, you'll enjoy it.

[03:42:20] You think the lack of World Boss and potentially World Boss is being instanced,

[03:42:23] all the big impact on the cross-faction friction and overall world-building.

[03:42:27] Some of the fondest memories or rivalries between the old factions fighting over boss-fonds

[03:42:31] and experience you can't recreate in a battleground.

[03:42:33] I think that's a really good question and a very valid concern.

[03:42:36] The thing, I don't think...

[03:42:40] So what World Bosses were back in the day were what you're describing.

[03:42:44] you're describing. It's like this massive all-out war. Having said that, what world bosses have

[03:42:49] become in 2026 are one guild controls it, no one else messes with it, and they just aren't that

[03:42:56] anymore. So in terms of like answering your question about instance world bossing, they did it on

[03:43:03] sod and it seemed to kind of work, and there was still other reasons to go out in world PvP,

[03:43:07] and it seemed kind of fine. In terms of world buffs, like I think there are

[03:43:16] negatives about removing world buffs, like there was utility behind, okay I have to

[03:43:21] go out in the world and now I'm gonna meet someone along the way or PvP, like

[03:43:25] there were good things about world buffs, but overall having that much character

[03:43:29] power tied into a buff is probably a mistake. So having other reasons to go

[03:43:33] out in the world is probably a good thing, but having that much character power

[03:43:37] tied to a buff is probably a bad thing. So I think they're like valid concerns, but I think that's

[03:43:41] fine in both instances. You can enable Swing Timer in the edit mode. I don't like how the

[03:43:46] Swing Timer looks, so I don't have it on. I'll probably download like a Swing Timer out on

[03:43:52] at some point, but I'm just leveling, it doesn't matter.

[03:43:56] Please share your UI code. I will eventually. I'm still tweaking things.

[03:44:07] Do I have to pick a surname? You do, yeah. Check on the watchtower. Oh no! He's dead!

[03:44:27] Collect the note you found near the dead peacekeeper and read it to determine your next steps.

[03:44:31] The cult hit us by surprise.

[03:44:37] Ronnie never saw it coming and our vences took a sword to the gut.

[03:44:40] For my part, it took a lightning bolt to the chest and blocked out.

[03:44:43] They never bothered to finish me off.

[03:44:44] I guess they assume my wounds would do me in.

[03:44:46] When it's all said and done, I suspect they might.

[03:44:49] Shush.

[03:44:50] Ah, let's go kill some people.

[03:44:54] How much protein do I eat a day?

[03:44:55] Probably 130 grams.

[03:44:56] 30 grams I don't track like exactly though

[03:45:06] Ronnie's favorite feather, okay when is the tourney it's the 17th and 18th of October

[03:45:21] Sky priest Anders Lane looks like he's up here at the top of the tower. Let's send it

[03:45:26] Oh

[03:45:33] He's despawned let's wait for him

[03:45:39] So I need I have a one-hander on with no shield right now I either need a shield or to get a two-hander

[03:45:46] But it looks kind of cool to have a one-hander without a serial honestly. Oh

[03:45:53] Yeah, okay, let's go over here and kill some more people

[03:45:56] the mobility from that is kind of cool and fun but I actually like how the

[03:46:10] racialism like blatantly overpowered we shouted about that a little bit this

[03:46:14] morning but it's actually kind of kind of good because if it was blatantly

[03:46:18] overpowered people would be crying it's like pay to win is there hyper spawns

[03:46:25] in forever. I think it depends on how many people are in your area, but if it

[03:46:29] layers you it'll ask you do you want to get layered first and then you say yes.

[03:46:35] Have you seen the Dungeon Journal add-on? I've not. Slowfall is not really fun to

[03:46:41] be honest. It's not really slowfall. It like propels you forward and you can turn

[03:46:44] it. It's way different than slowfall. A slowfall just makes you fall slowly. This

[03:46:50] This like propels you and you can control.

[03:46:55] It's more like a goblin glider, exactly.

[03:46:56] It's like a mini goblin glider, that's right.

[03:47:06] Can you use it in Wars on Gulch?

[03:47:07] Yeah, I'm sure you could.

[03:47:09] We need you to rally your soldiers and come to Ashenvale.

[03:47:22] Are the servers like a hundred percent stable?

[03:47:25] Maybe after I get out of the starting zone I'll do some PvP, but I do want to finish

[03:47:29] up this character first.

[03:47:32] I actually kind of wanted to do some South Shore vs Terran, no I haven't done that yet.

[03:47:35] Is there no option to hide Cloak and Helm?

[03:47:38] It's only in the Transmog area which is kind of annoying.

[03:47:41] It's not that big of a deal but...

[03:47:45] Thoughts on the Beta?

[03:47:46] I like it overall.

[03:47:47] I like it overall.

[03:47:53] I assume you saw that Showback YouTube short?

[03:47:55] I have not seen it now.

[03:47:59] How long is the Warrior only two buttons?

[03:48:01] Uh...

[03:48:02] Until you get more.

[03:48:04] That's how every class isn't classic though, like, you start off with basically nothing

[03:48:08] for a while.

[03:48:09] That's pretty standard.

[03:48:20] How do you keep calm when people ask that question the 10,000th time?

[03:48:24] I'm just used to it man, it's part of streaming.

[03:48:27] What are the top 5 versions for you and is WoW Forever in that top 5?

[03:48:30] It depends what type of gameplay I want.

[03:48:32] Like, this is gonna be a crazy take, but if I want really good PvP, like competitive PvP,

[03:48:44] Classic WoW I don't think is in top five.

[03:48:47] Actually maybe it is, but it's on the closer to the bottom.

[03:48:51] Whereas if I want a really good RPG, a really good, um, classic MMO, it's top one, right?

[03:48:59] Favorite game, maybe top one.

[03:49:01] But if I want like competitive PvP, you know, so I guess what I'm trying to say is it depends

[03:49:10] on what category I'm listing these things on.

[03:49:27] Yo pixie send it to me when I'm like in a city or something

[03:49:32] My number one favorite for competitive PvP all my top three are mop wrath and

[03:49:40] Cata to be honest mop wrath and cat are like my favorite PvP experiences that whilst ever had and

[03:49:47] I say that after playing them once and then playing them twice

[03:49:51] playing them twice through

[03:49:57] are you gonna play as prod I don't know maybe I'll level his arms and then

[03:50:05] respect prod if I feel like it or maybe a level is prod and then respect arms if

[03:50:09] I feel like it we'll see I've decided yet

[03:50:14] yo hag thanks for the front my PvP was so good Zara played it for a week and

[03:50:20] quit no that can't be further than from the truth that's like so far from the

[03:50:25] truth. What do you think about re-specging cost in gold if they fixed it? Now it's only

[03:50:31] one silver, but it's one silver once an hour, basically. Just for the beta. I hate when

[03:50:52] People say to be honest. Yeah, it's more of just a figure of speech

[03:50:55] But I see what you're saying like on a practical level. It's like what were you gonna do lie to me?

[03:50:59] Yeah, I see you're saying

[03:51:02] To be honest though, I don't think it's that big of a deal

[03:51:14] Yo bitch and queen thanks for the prompt

[03:51:17] Not gonna lie to be honest, I'm not gonna lie

[03:51:22] Yo, Rupspare, gifting 20 subs and a Minecraft adding to it.

[03:51:32] Yo, thank you very much, man.

[03:51:34] There we go.

[03:51:35] Dude, these added Minecraft gifted subs are crazy.

[03:51:38] Yo, 5% XP buff from food?

[03:51:40] Oh, thanks.

[03:51:43] Massive.

[03:51:45] Oh, I actually had some.

[03:51:52] I just didn't have it on or with all due respect.

[03:51:55] Well, that one's a little different.

[03:51:57] That's like when you're saying something that might be a little out of line.

[03:52:00] So you have to make sure that you say with all due respect.

[03:52:07] Mini map in Stormwind is bugged.

[03:52:09] Yeah, I saw that.

[03:52:22] We need to put Pali Consecrate back to how it was.

[03:52:39] I don't know, there might be problems with it.

[03:52:41] I think overall Pali players are pretty stoked to have things the way they are, but we'll

[03:52:46] see.

[03:52:47] Oh, that's my...

[03:52:48] I actually have a bow now.

[03:52:49] I need to get some ammo and I need to get a shield or a better weapon

[03:53:01] Had our and thanks for the front am I gonna play in the dueling 30. I'm gonna host it with Espan

[03:53:06] I'm PvP rule set

[03:53:09] What do you think about the Skyborne?

[03:53:11] They're okay so far

[03:53:13] I'm not I'm not hating it. Honestly the whole thing feels very classic besides like a few of the

[03:53:19] Art assets, I think

[03:53:22] Some of the models besides that I would also like

[03:53:26] In my ideal world you give sky born an SD model, which is the TBC blood elf

[03:53:31] And then you redo some of the true and owl forms and some of the starting zone mobs and there you go

[03:53:37] problem solved, right

[03:53:39] but

[03:53:42] Overall having a lot of fun it feels very classic-y still

[03:53:49] It's just a journey now adventures. They must be shared

[03:53:54] Thanks for taking on this new adventure that saw you love it pyramid games. Thanks for the prime. I don't even have axe training bro

[03:54:01] I can't even use it

[03:54:07] We need a warrior council dude Alondo's video basically covers everything I would say

[03:54:12] The council would probably be like, ampy and Alondo, if anything, some of the most knowledgeable

[03:54:18] warrior gamers.

[03:54:42] Yeah, along those video covered like everything that that video is awesome.

[03:55:06] I was really impressed with the video too because throughout the entire thing, he wasn't

[03:55:10] like whining he was giving his criticisms but it wasn't like it was just he just

[03:55:16] said it very plainly right again thanks for the prime

[03:55:24] what are you planning on doing with your copper smelting it is this a trick

[03:55:32] question

[03:55:40] Cloudrunner, yeah so that, that asset is like a little, little iffy there.

[03:56:06] In terms of the warrior rage regen when does it start feeling bad because I'm level 9 right

[03:56:15] now and if you guys didn't tell me about it I wouldn't have said anything and I've leveled

[03:56:22] a lot of warriors. After 10? Okay, so it's not really in play yet.

[03:56:40] and

[03:56:46] I

[03:57:09] When does warrior not feel awful at level 20?

[03:57:11] Well, that's kind of like part of the point is that yeah, exactly warriors do feel awful at level 20, but that's also just warrior level 20

[03:57:20] Can't wait to start PvP in yeah should be good time

[03:57:29] What's your recommendation the buff skyborne ratios honestly, this is a crazy take but

[03:57:34] But, leaving them weak as the new race is honestly kind of a good thing because if they're strong,

[03:57:42] people will say it's pay to win and that you have to play the new one and pay the 60 bucks.

[03:57:47] Leaving them in a somewhat weak spot might be completely fine.

[03:57:52] And it's not like they're completely weak either.

[03:57:54] For speed leveling, they're good.

[03:57:56] Late lines for speed leveling is good.

[03:57:58] Walk on air has its uses like in battlegrounds or out in the world.

[03:58:02] It's not like they're awful.

[03:58:03] Okay, they just don't need to be like OP so I don't know I think I'd be fine

[03:58:12] Is it are they are they are they a little on the weekend of course, you know

[03:58:17] I almost just say leave it for now

[03:58:20] Maybe maybe tune it down the down the line

[03:58:27] Okay, so we have a waist

[03:58:33] Deliver this to Valinar and deliver the signets to Valinar. We're headed to Valinar.

[03:58:44] Riser, thanks for the prom. My goods are of the highest quality.

[03:58:57] Okay.

[03:58:59] So I would assume we just run down there now. I kind of wanted to check out if

[03:59:05] there was a place to buy a shield. Probably is somewhere. If this is like a

[03:59:14] gold shire equivalent, there probably is a place to like get a shield. Alchemist,

[03:59:21] medic inkeeper herbalist I don't have blacksmithing yet

[03:59:51] Use the minimap filter.

[03:59:59] See what's up here.

[04:00:01] There's blue level 10 BS boots.

[04:00:02] That's crazy.

[04:00:03] I'm going to check over this one.

[04:00:17] Innkeeper, road chainer, shanner, skinner, herbalist.

[04:00:19] Man, is there really not like a place to just buy like a shield?

[04:00:23] Am I wrong to think this is like the gold trier equivalent like shouldn't there be like a shield vendor?

[04:00:30] Let's see

[04:00:32] Cooking alchemists in Valinar there is okay, maybe just the next town

[04:00:41] Unless it's here blacksmith maybe this year

[04:00:49] So there's a weapon merchant

[04:01:01] Nothing the wins upon you trying to think if you can buy a shield only weapons. Yeah

[04:01:08] Armor vendors. I don't see any armor vendors, but maybe I'm mistaken

[04:01:19] The new zone is pay to win you get one gold fifty silver from the quest I might have gotten some extra gold in other ways maybe

[04:01:32] What's up?

[04:01:35] Welcome back

[04:01:38] Jeez

[04:01:44] Definitely

[04:01:49] Tony, thanks for the 5 man, that's what's up.

[04:01:51] I'm glad you're enjoying it, and, uh,

[04:01:53] P.G. is moving across the world, wow.

[04:02:11] No guys, I didn't buy gold.

[04:02:13] Alright, I would never do that.

[04:02:19] I'm really bad at blacksmithing, I haven't done this, okay so you make sharpening stones

[04:02:43] And then you can make rods, bracers.

[04:02:48] Oh, you need a blacksmith hammer.

[04:02:51] And then there's a green vest you can make in some.

[04:02:55] Oh, yeah, dude.

[04:02:57] Heck, yeah.

[04:03:00] That's cool.

[04:03:03] Sharpening stones, I guess we'll just keep sending.

[04:03:13] Some gears really good apparently there's blue boots a little not a little 10

[04:03:27] Hopped on twitch to sub Farah, thanks for the sub

[04:03:32] Hey appreciate it mckape it's been it's been nuts and very nuts

[04:03:43] And then you can just in Shanford infinite crafting mats. I'm gonna say mining for now

[04:04:00] Sick tabard better on the sky born. Yeah, that tabard is pretty sick whoever does not design that pretty pretty fire

[04:04:13] Yeah, I did not go with the blue skin personally.

[04:04:25] Blacksmith, level 20, boys.

[04:04:30] Ah, shoot, I should have kept some copper bars for the pants, dude.

[04:04:42] Oh well, we'll get more.

[04:04:57] Best channel to watch for WoWLower?

[04:04:59] Uh, WoWLower channels, guys, go.

[04:05:01] Novel for retail.

[04:05:02] He's actually covering Forever 2 now.

[04:05:05] Um, what's the other channel I've seen a ton of videos from?

[04:05:09] Bellular. Oh, Platinum Wow. Not Bellular. Platinum Wow. Well, Bellular too, I guess.

[04:05:18] But Platinum Wow is who I was thinking of. Platinum and...

[04:05:25] Um...

[04:05:27] Crandor, I mean, Crandor is some. Noble and Platinum were the two I was thinking of.

[04:05:36] for lower stuff.

[04:05:48] Guys, I've said this before, but I'll say it again.

[04:05:51] I love the utility of this new profession tab.

[04:05:54] I love that I have all my professions in one place

[04:05:57] with cooking, first aid, mining, blacksmithing.

[04:06:01] It's so much easier on my brain to just be like,

[04:06:04] Alright, these are my profs.

[04:06:06] Let's make them.

[04:06:07] You know what I mean?

[04:06:10] It's so clean, it's nice.

[04:06:11] Once again, visually, I probably have my own preferences.

[04:06:14] I don't like things so smooth and polished.

[04:06:16] Right, I kinda like the classic aesthetic.

[04:06:18] But in terms of the utility of the paint itself,

[04:06:21] like all of it in one spot is so sick.

[04:06:27] Ah, Lydnik, thanks for the tier one, Min.

[04:06:34] Did you finish getting your books?

[04:06:46] Yes.

[04:06:47] Again, UI critique?

[04:06:48] I mean, yeah, I definitely am very, very picky with UI stuff, man.

[04:06:53] But like I said, bro, if my biggest critiques are UI, it's like, goodness gracious.

[04:07:01] Must be a pretty good game if my biggest critiques are UI based.

[04:07:05] Oh, this guy says I found a bent trap.

[04:07:08] Yeah, sure.

[04:07:09] You don't need it.

[04:07:11] That was behind me.

[04:07:17] Here we go.

[04:07:19] Slutakula legubrius.

[04:07:21] That's a crazy name.

[04:07:25] Nice name.

[04:07:27] oof

[04:07:34] Oh, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, okay

[04:07:45] We're at least gonna pay this guy says he found a gray shield on his travels

[04:07:54] Might as well put a gray shield on

[04:07:57] And you know, he's gonna hook up the potions too, but you know, that's what it is

[04:08:07] I'm feeling strong boys

[04:08:10] We got weapon sharpening. We got some buffs. We got some pots

[04:08:14] We got a gray shield on we got some green crafted gear. All right, man

[04:08:23] Take it

[04:08:27] All my add-ons are right here in Discord, I updated them this morning.

[04:08:33] I'll continue to update my add-ons in Discord with my profiles and stuff like that as I

[04:08:39] lock in and min-max and dial all the small details, but right now this is what I'm doing.

[04:08:44] There is a chance I'll change some more stuff around, I mean actually there's a 100% chance

[04:08:48] I'll change some more stuff around, but I think in my UI will look something like this,

[04:08:53] which is essentially a mix between modern and classic.

[04:08:58] Like I have the classic unit frames,

[04:09:01] but they're recolored to be bronze.

[04:09:03] I have the classic minimap,

[04:09:04] but it's recolored to be bronze.

[04:09:06] I have the new action bars,

[04:09:08] but I, you know, hit the griffins.

[04:09:10] Like I have like kind of a blend going right now.

[04:09:14] And I actually think it's, it's fine.

[04:09:17] I just love the unit frames.

[04:09:24] Yeah, they're literally just the classic ones, recolored bronze.

[04:09:28] Mini thanks for the Prime, my Guru thanks for the Prime.

[04:09:36] Classic meets modern, exactly.

[04:09:41] I love warriors, bro. Every time I play a warrior, I say the same thing. They're just

[04:09:50] so fun. I think what it is is just so engaging. Pressing charge is just so darn engaging,

[04:09:57] I got dazed, so dazed does exist still, it's just pretty rare.

[04:10:21] Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love my mage as well.

[04:10:24] It's just like, warriors are more fun to level.

[04:10:27] I love my mage too, but warriors are just so fun to level, man.

[04:10:35] See how fun the class is in duels?

[04:10:36] Yeah, I'm not really gonna be dueling on a warrior, but that's the thing.

[04:10:39] I love warriors, but when I'm playing a warrior, I just know I'm not really gonna duel.

[04:10:43] If I wanna duel, I'll log on to another class.

[04:10:46] Like, if I wanna PvP though, warriors are sick and then battlegrounds around the world,

[04:10:51] I'm just not gonna duel on a warrior.

[04:10:52] At least too often

[04:11:03] Coward you coward

[04:11:11] The new zone is pretty awesome, it's really just a couple of the creature assets like that's pretty much it the zone

[04:11:18] What's it called? Landscape is great. The zone itself looks great.

[04:11:27] The Skyborne have a twist jump? Yeah, it's kind of like a blood hole.

[04:11:32] That's the guy who Makarota mage in the middle of Western Plaguelands as a warrior? Yeah,

[04:11:40] that was actually kind of crazy. I was rewatching that back the other day and I was like,

[04:11:43] Why did I do that? Like, what the heck was I thinking?

[04:11:47] and

[04:12:17] It'll be awesome, it'll be amazing, it'll be life changing.

[04:12:30] Is he playing Theta?

[04:12:31] Yeah.

[04:12:32] Hear me out party duels?

[04:12:35] I actually think party duels would be sick, yeah.

[04:12:41] that tornado? Oh does that help you move? Let me see. Oh cool. How long? Five minutes?

[04:12:54] You've been punched by energizing winds, increasing speed by 40. Hostile action ends.

[04:12:58] Oh okay, so it just helps you get to the town. I see. Wow, I'm zooming now. Okay, so these

[04:13:10] These are the gale striders that people have a big problem with.

[04:13:15] Not only is the geometry more modern, but also the color palette is incredibly vibrant.

[04:13:24] You don't really see these types of colors in the classic Azeroth.

[04:13:34] I think there's room for valid critique here guys.

[04:13:37] I do.

[04:13:38] Not to be a hater, but I do think toning down the color palette here would just be a W.

[04:13:49] I tend to agree, yeah.

[04:13:52] Toning down the color palette and making it more muted to fit in the classic world.

[04:13:56] I think like, I think it would be, I think it would make a lot of sense.

[04:14:00] Oh, we got a shield.

[04:14:01] Oh, we got a big shield, which is actually smaller than our other one, but stronger.

[04:14:07] make sense. What do you say to Orc Mage? Doesn't bother me. Where's the in-game

[04:14:15] questie? It's literally right here. You're looking at it.

[04:14:27] He dropped a ruffled feather. Ain't that the truth? Opinions on warrior so far?

[04:14:34] From 1 to 9 they feel good. They feel about the same. I don't really notice any rage normalization stuff coming into play at least yet

[04:14:42] So we'll see how things go as I continue to play

[04:14:50] Rage starved at all I mean kind of but that's just how it works when you're 1 to 9

[04:14:54] But apparently it's worse later, so I'll keep playing and forming my opinion

[04:14:59] People are saying it comes in online like after 10 after you get some more armor too so

[04:15:17] Okay, so we have some quest turn ins over there I was trying to set my hearthstone here

[04:15:23] It's another quest over on this side, but I don't see like a hearth area. Maybe it's over there

[04:15:29] I'm trying to think of the vibrant winter spring cats obviously it was the white cats

[04:15:53] in winter spring but I think of the vibrant ones. Are there?

[04:16:03] What are they called? I want to look them up, kinda.

[04:16:17] They're just called Frost Sabers?

[04:16:26] These?

[04:16:28] This is the one I was thinking of, they're like white.

[04:16:35] I mean, they might have a purple hue.

[04:16:39] Winter Saber.

[04:16:42] I wanna see what you guys were talking about.

[04:16:47] Look at vibrant plume.

[04:17:01] The feather?

[04:17:02] There's like a couple of these feathers on the ground.

[04:17:10] normal thanks to the Prime man. Winter Saber. If you mean Reigns of the Frot, like this

[04:17:24] is one of my favorite mounts in the game. It's a very muted purple. This actually makes

[04:17:27] it look more purple than it is. This might be a better representation. Yeah, this mount

[04:17:33] is sick. Very classic, not very vibrant. This is kind of how it looks in game. It's very

[04:17:39] like a very like low, like muted purple kinda.

[04:17:47] It's actually was my favorite mount in the game

[04:17:48] until Special Tiger.

[04:17:50] I love this thing.

[04:17:52] Ableu, thanks for the tier one.

[04:17:57] Anyway, yeah, I mean, I like, I don't know.

[04:17:59] If there's anything like actually that vibrant,

[04:18:01] I would be shocked because I feel like

[04:18:02] I haven't seen anything like that.

[04:18:09] Battle tank, mountain, AQ, uh, the red, there's

[04:18:39] red, yellow. Of course the black one. Those are probably like the most vibrant things

[04:18:47] I can think of. Yeah. That's a fair point.

[04:19:02] Let's run up here and turn these quests in. I think I already set my heresy I did. And

[04:19:06] And then from here we'll just start slamming quests all over the place and then I don't

[04:19:11] even know.

[04:19:12] This quest zone, this area is like quite big and spread out so that like in other words

[04:19:16] like the pacing is quite slow, which is nice in the sense that you don't just like, you

[04:19:24] don't just like get out of here instantly, right?

[04:19:28] Just finished playing through the new Skyborne Zone.

[04:19:30] Oh, sick.

[04:19:31] Roll a coaster it feels more retail than the other new zones, but there is a lot of content that sticks to see

[04:19:39] Yeah, the best simple critique I could give is it shreds continuity

[04:19:44] Yeah, yeah, I think that's like somewhat right. There's some stuff that feels spot-on and there's some stuff that feels a bit modern

[04:19:49] To me, it's really just those those assets that we talked about. I like the pacing a lot. I like the environment a lot a

[04:19:57] A grand adventure?

[04:20:01] We'll find ourselves in peril.

[04:20:07] What's going on?

[04:20:08] The High Order seeks to find a pragmatic and enlightened solution to our current crisis.

[04:20:12] Okay?

[04:20:13] One does not rely upon defining intervention from external forces.

[04:20:17] We seek to master our own destiny for the first time since we've arrived in Skywall.

[04:20:22] Since we left our homes in Kalimdor, the world has grown.

[04:20:25] They call it Azeroth now, and it's a massive, vibrant world, ha ha, vibrant, huh?

[04:20:30] Recently we discovered a way to use our magic to carve a keyhole of sorts to peer through

[04:20:33] the plains to learn much of Azeroth.

[04:20:35] Oh, when we peered through that keyhole, someone else peered back, members of a magical order

[04:20:41] much like our own called the Quirin Tor.

[04:20:44] We have learned much from them.

[04:20:46] The elementals who brought us here are gone, any feats they use to maintain our homes can

[04:20:49] be replicated with Highborn Magic, but our powers have grown weak in Skywall.

[04:20:54] We got to leave and go to Azeroth so among us must leave this place to existence of existence

[04:20:59] We must travel to Azeroth to rediscover what we've lost and bring that knowledge back as a tool to save our home

[04:21:04] The keyer and Thor have graciously agreed to receive us as their guests and we will need their help if we are to succeed

[04:21:11] We will need explorers and adventurers of all kinds think on this and when the time comes

[04:21:15] I hope you will consider joining us until then good fortune a

[04:21:18] Grand adventure complete quest

[04:21:20] So basically we're out of power. We got to bounce out to Azeroth. We're gonna join up with Akira and Thor in full Sun

[04:21:29] Hmm interesting

[04:21:35] Let's do a couple more quests here and lock it and dial level up. I kind of have to sneeze though

[04:21:45] Excuse me, I'm gonna play mage on launch. Yeah

[04:21:50] Bless you, thank you guys.

[04:21:59] Enchanted Skyhopper exterminated.

[04:22:04] Alright.

[04:22:09] Kill Skyhoppers and Valadar until you've eliminated 8 Enchanted Skyhoppers.

[04:22:15] Have you guys noticed that your quest log, you can't open without your map?

[04:22:19] you can open your map without your quest log but you can't open your quest log without your map

[04:22:25] i don't think

[04:22:29] press l yeah like it literally opens this

[04:22:37] i don't know if it's a big deal maybe it's fine that that is

[04:22:42] definitely a little different skyhopper here we go exterminated enchanted skyhoppers

[04:22:49] Same as retail? Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, there's the bear, the owl bear. Okay, am I an idiot

[04:23:05] here? I definitely am. Oh, maybe it's just a chance on kill? Yeah, it's probably just

[04:23:15] random.

[04:23:40] There's no way I'm doing this, right?

[04:23:45] When you press L, it takes you like that, you know?

[04:23:55] What do you think about all class buffs being an hour long?

[04:24:01] What do you mean by that?

[04:24:03] Did you almost kill a squirrel? I'm sorry, bro.

[04:24:11] Oh, a stamp in stuff.

[04:24:13] Oh, that's good. I like that.

[04:24:14] Yeah, to me, that's a no-brainer.

[04:24:16] There's a lot of stuff that's no-brainer stuff,

[04:24:19] like removing world buffs or hour-long buffs

[04:24:21] or, you know, Paladins having a taunt.

[04:24:24] Like, there's something, oh yeah, you guys are right,

[04:24:27] that is the way to do it, man.

[04:24:28] This quest is brutal, then.

[04:24:31] Like, to me, there's so many no-brainer stuff like that,

[04:24:34] like, oh, totally, of course.

[04:24:39] Battle Shouts should be an hour.

[04:24:40] Well, Battle Shouts a little different, right, I think.

[04:24:44] something you actually want to keep up in combat part of your rotation I don't know

[04:24:58] it's three yeah it is three instead of two which I've noticed right away as a

[04:25:03] warrior player like right when I got it I was like that's three now right I was

[04:25:06] Because it definitely used to be too.

[04:25:25] How do you feel about summoning stones?

[04:25:27] I think it's an okay choice to not have them.

[04:25:29] It's not something I feel strongly about.

[04:25:36] I think running to instances is like a big part of the social experience of classic WoW.

[04:25:44] It's not like a big deal to me to skip that every time and you still have Warlock summons and...

[04:25:49] I don't know. I don't mind it not like not being in the game.

[04:25:59] What are your thoughts on the devs making disarm trap? No longer a dead skill?

[04:26:03] How would what would you do? Like what would like do you have any ideas?

[04:26:09] It's all yeah, it's also part of the unique part of warlocks. That's right once you add

[04:26:14] Summoning to everything then lock someone doesn't become as cool. That's right

[04:26:24] Yeah, BWL yeah true

[04:26:33] Bruh, this thing is running quick!

[04:26:43] Are you kidding me?

[04:26:44] Oh, it reset.

[04:26:45] How did it reset?

[04:26:46] I was attacking it.

[04:26:47] Oh, I missed like five times in a row, I think.

[04:26:55] Enjoy your weekend.

[04:26:56] Thanks, bro.

[04:26:57] Okay, we'll do a couple of these side quests and then wait this quest is called bugged

[04:27:16] is that a bug or is that bugged okay.

[04:27:22] Dude the riot MMO will never come out.

[04:27:26] I hope it will at some point.

[04:27:29] How are you enjoying the starting zone?

[04:27:31] I'm liking it besides some of the assets.

[04:27:42] Oh, there's a cave. Here it is.

[04:27:44] It's armed trap. 8-second buff lets you disarm the next trap you trigger. 1.5-minute cooldown.

[04:27:50] So you make it more like automatic.

[04:27:52] I don't know if that's necessary.

[04:27:54] Like the chatter pointed out, like in BWL, you have to like think about your rogues and moving them into the right spots and stuff.

[04:28:02] I think as long as there's reasons to use it sometimes, it's probably just fine.

[04:28:06] Okay, so here's another example.

[04:28:09] This shriekling fledgling doesn't necessarily look like it's part of classic.

[04:28:14] And this one isn't necessarily the color.

[04:28:16] It's just like, there's so many sharp angles.

[04:28:19] Like...

[04:28:22] You know?

[04:28:24] I think just toning it down to fit in the classic world.

[04:28:30] It's the druid form, so they look like that though?

[04:28:33] It fits classic, does it?

[04:28:34] I mean the coloring is nice, right?

[04:28:38] So that's cool.

[04:28:39] I don't know, I think there's like too many.

[04:28:48] Um, if there's a lay line in here, I want to grab it to get...

[04:28:55] Dude, I can't see anything in here.

[04:28:58] It's foggy in here, boys!

[04:29:01] It's foggy!

[04:29:06] Read their buff.

[04:29:08] That shriekling is newly born and has poor eyesight.

[04:29:11] Enemy detection range is greatly reduced.

[04:29:13] Yeah, I can't see anything in here either, bro.

[04:29:14] I think it's just the fog, honestly.

[04:29:28] Find this guy, I think he's over here.

[04:29:37] So my FPS is now like, it's like 300 right now.

[04:29:41] Honestly, that's still a little on the low end

[04:29:43] for what I experienced on like retail and classic,

[04:29:46] but I feel like finally they figured out

[04:29:49] the memory leak thing, so it's like playable now,

[04:29:53] which is nice.

[04:29:55] Weird flex.

[04:29:56] No, I was trying to say it like analytically,

[04:29:58] like it's, there's probably more optimizations to be had

[04:30:01] because it should be higher than that,

[04:30:03] because my computer's insane.

[04:30:05] And if you need a new PC, check out Starforge PCs.

[04:30:08] We have a link in the chat.

[04:30:09] They have the best PCs in the universe,

[04:30:10] and I was up to a 5090.

[04:30:12] That's not the point though, the point is we're talking about the beta here.

[04:30:22] Carry Filion Flamereys to safety while avoiding enemies.

[04:30:26] I got you Filion!

[04:30:28] Let's get out of here Filion!

[04:30:32] And this guy in front of me is also going to carry another version of you out.

[04:30:36] In a different reality.

[04:30:44] Let's go, Philly Inn.

[04:30:53] Yeah?

[04:30:58] Was there another quest in here?

[04:31:00] Wind Sing crawler?

[04:31:01] Oh no, that's the crawler me.

[04:31:02] That's just like all over.

[04:31:03] might skip the crawler me quest we'll see what add-on are people using to view

[04:31:08] the spells and when to learn them there's an add-on called what's training

[04:31:11] which is the same one from the other one that tells you what you can get soon but

[04:31:15] I mean for level 20 it's completely unnecessary I downloaded it this

[04:31:20] this morning kind of more just to see if it worked and it did and I was surprised

[04:31:23] and I'll say okay I'll leave it on then stranger please put me down on that

[04:31:28] bedroll over there wait what if you just don't put him down I'll say what if you

[04:31:32] Just troll him and don't put him down is your character. Just live with that 50% movement speed decrease and

[04:31:38] You just carry him for the rest of time

[04:31:44] Slay the Shrieking matriarch in the den. Oh my gosh now. He wants me to go back inside and kill the matriarch. All right

[04:31:53] The matriarch is over this way

[04:31:59] New hardcore challenge, please now

[04:32:02] He needs a claw.

[04:32:14] Okay, we're out of here.

[04:32:29] new Raven Lord mount I

[04:32:36] Feel like these things have even more detailing than the Raven Lord

[04:32:40] My making that up. Let me see a

[04:32:44] Lot of the what's the is it like Stockholm syndrome where you like you think you remember something one way

[04:32:50] What am I what what what phrase am I thinking of here? And then you like think back and it's like oh, no, I was completely wrong

[04:32:56] Mandela effect in Mandela effect Mandela it's like okay, so this is in my head a lot less

[04:33:05] Geometry than this but now let's compare

[04:33:13] Hold on I'm trying to get a side angle of you brother hold on don't move

[04:33:18] Okay, so it is it is it's like this has this is TBC by the way right but it has oh crap

[04:33:24] I'm getting double attacked it sounds like three five like five times as many right that's like 10x the polygon count

[04:33:30] Okay, I might die, but this is not on me. This was for you guys. I'm testing the beta for you guys. All right

[04:33:41] So I think like if these if these birds want to feel more in place not that they're a huge deal oh

[04:33:48] Gosh, I'm just not gonna attack back. That's what I'm gonna do

[04:33:51] Send a pot. I'm not attacking back. They're gonna reset guys. They're gonna reset. These are for sure resetting

[04:33:57] Don't worry. They're resetting 30 these are gonna reset. They're gonna reset they reset

[04:34:02] Now that it's a big deal, but I feel like putting the polygon count to whatever this was

[04:34:08] Obviously, it's you know, it's small. It's the same exact model whatever but making it more like that

[04:34:11] I think would be a little little nicer

[04:34:21] Alright, um, we can go up and around if we feel like it.

[04:34:28] Yeah, let's go this way and then like it up some of these quests.

[04:34:34] Is there a character wipe after the data?

[04:34:47] Yes.

[04:34:49] Blizzard straight up says to listen to what players have to say unless it's about the

[04:34:59] classic UI.

[04:35:00] Yeah, true.

[04:35:01] Plasmental, thanks for the prime.

[04:35:04] Mercara, thanks for the T1.

[04:35:10] What is this movement speed?

[04:35:11] So when I hit that cloud, it makes me sprint, but if I attack, it cancels the sprint.

[04:35:17] basically it makes running through this zone quicker. It is a pretty big zone and it's

[04:35:23] pretty spread out so maybe it's fine. What character should I roll to? Warrior's been fun, I don't know.

[04:35:38] Maybe I'll actually go on do these quests first.

[04:35:47] Oh, this place looks cool.

[04:35:49] Shrine of Akir.

[04:35:51] You cross like this bridge.

[04:35:53] The music changes.

[04:35:56] It's different over here.

[04:35:58] I hope a vibrant bird doesn't pop out.

[04:36:03] I'm immersed right now, boys. I'm immersed.

[04:36:07] Oh, yeah.

[04:36:09] Guardian, spirit callers, blademasters.

[04:36:14] Let's keep moving.

[04:36:16] Now that looks like classic. Yeah, this is this this area right here is done very well

[04:36:21] That looks cool. I mean, they're all the classic assets, right? Like it should

[04:36:26] Or not like a lot of them are this isn't like this is I think hey little ten

[04:36:33] Okay, should I go arms fury or Pratt?

[04:36:46] Everyone in the chat saying prod.

[04:37:06] Hmm

[04:37:16] I kind of want to try arms just to see what people are complaining about with arms.

[04:37:31] If people are saying prop feels good maybe I won't do that one.

[04:37:34] If I am going to go arms and rend is actually good, I think I do go improve the rend even

[04:37:43] that you normally wouldn't. Yeah, okay, I'll do that. I need a two-hander. Dude, this zone,

[04:38:00] by the way, looks awesome. Like, this looks so cool. This looks so cool. I think I like

[04:38:10] Like the Shrine of Akir and the Ruins area, like more than the rest of this so far.

[04:38:16] Like these two areas are dope.

[04:38:19] You can just, it looks cold, yeah, yeah.

[04:38:22] This is really cool.

[04:38:27] Duskwood vibes, yeah.

[04:38:33] Wow, I am getting slapped.

[04:38:40] I need some better gear ASAP man this is not not feeling good here

[04:38:59] My hoarder ally ally

[04:39:04] Why don't I use battle shout cuz I'm a noob normally I use a weak aura to tell me when the battle shout

[04:39:10] Since I don't have weak auras, I'm like, I'm just not remembering.

[04:39:15] Oh, yeah, I need to train my level 10 abilities.

[04:39:25] We have in-game weak auras?

[04:39:26] Yeah, the way I use my weak aura is when Battleshout is missing, it'll basically flash, like,

[04:39:33] use Battleshout.

[04:39:34] But you can't set up the cooldown mantra that way, unfortunately.

[04:39:39] Or maybe fortunately, maybe I'm just a noob and need to get good.

[04:39:47] You can?

[04:39:48] Okay, how?

[04:39:50] Because I spent like a while earlier and we've came to the conclusion that you can't.

[04:40:01] of

[04:40:26] New alert visual. Oh, I actually haven't seen this. When on aura applied on aura removed.

[04:40:39] I don't even know you can do this. Visual alert marching ants. Are you kidding me?

[04:40:50] What?

[04:40:51] No, I just wanted to literally show the icon.

[04:40:57] Eh, dude.

[04:41:07] I'll see what that looks like when it removes.

[04:41:13] Look off the buff and see.

[04:41:15] Nothing.

[04:41:16] Gonna do anything

[04:41:29] Crap my dodge in edit mode uncheck hide when that in active box on track box. I give me a sec

[04:41:40] You have to use the cool-down manager inside of edit mode alright, so in edit mode to click off

[04:41:44] of what in Edamode Unshucked a hide win inactive box.

[04:42:00] Oh, there we go.

[04:42:03] So now, well, but I wanted the hide win active,

[04:42:11] but that kind of helps a little bit.

[04:42:14] But now I wanted to hide when it's up, I want to hit it because it's like oh I used it.

[04:42:20] So how do I do that?

[04:42:25] Cast it.

[04:42:26] Yeah I did.

[04:42:27] But now it just shows the two minute thing.

[04:42:30] I suggested feedback for the same thing.

[04:42:32] Yeah I don't think you can.

[04:42:34] Wow these guys are hard to kill.

[04:42:39] Molly

[04:42:46] Brando, thanks for the prime you're gonna be in the 50k tournament and wow I'm gonna be hosting it man

[04:42:53] Says two minutes above the frame in three minutes as above. Yeah

[04:43:02] He's an audio alert, I don't like audio alerts

[04:43:04] I prefer to play my game a little more on the natural end. I don't like the game beeping at me

[04:43:10] beep beep boop boop boop beep beep

[04:43:12] No, thanks

[04:43:18] Remove the tract buff from the CDM. I don't if I do that then the whole thing's gone, but I could try

[04:43:25] Actually, you know what I could try that. Let's see. I don't think that'll work

[04:43:34] So I removed it as like not displayed and then add alert oh maybe this will work no

[04:43:50] it doesn't work that was actually smart thinking though although it didn't work

[04:44:04] and

[04:44:31] Yeah, Blizzard cooldown manager is really bad.

[04:44:35] I mean, I think one of like the, like, I don't think it has to be that good.

[04:44:43] I think it just needs to literally like have an option to say like, like people, like there's

[04:44:51] no way I'm the only one that uses this like buff reminders, you know, Arcane Elect is

[04:44:55] missing it shows you an Arcane Elect thing and when you put it up it goes away.

[04:44:59] I feel like it's a very standard thing, you know, so I feel like that would be would be nice

[04:45:12] All right P weak or a

[04:45:17] Crap dude, I am getting owned by these I'm legit too weak to take these on out level 11. Oh

[04:45:25] Oh my gosh, this is a 1v1 boys.

[04:45:31] It's coming down to it, huh?

[04:45:34] 9%?

[04:45:35] Holy crap, you got Keep Running.

[04:45:38] That was tough.

[04:45:42] Dang, I don't even know if I can do this quest.

[04:45:50] Like I have to eat between every mob.

[04:45:53] I would want to just hearth back turn these in and do this one and then like maybe get another level

[04:45:59] And get some training getting the hearth back

[04:46:14] Valinah we're back home

[04:46:17] The music here is kind of cool so I want to go turn these quests in I also want to get

[04:46:24] this lay line and I also want to get warrior training.

[04:46:26] If I tried playing with a controller I'm not.

[04:46:31] What quest add-on am I using?

[04:46:32] None, it's just baseline.

[04:46:34] It is actually pretty cool that you can play this game with no add-ons if you really wanted.

[04:46:40] I'm using about I don't know five add-ons right now and they're all completely unnecessary.

[04:46:45] all like because I'm a visual freak I'm trying to get like my UI to look a

[04:46:50] certain way but if you're just like a normal dude and you could probably play

[04:46:57] with no add-ons for the most part pretty sweet

[04:47:03] Just Atlasloo?

[04:47:16] I kind of like the idea of not knowing what drops, but...

[04:47:27] Zephyrus will not fall.

[04:47:30] Actually, I think I like this from not even like that.

[04:47:42] There's a quest over here.

[04:47:45] Oh, there's a lot more quests here.

[04:47:51] Okay.

[04:47:52] There's another turn in here and I want to check out that warrior training.

[04:47:57] Dry Waypoint UI? It's Lazy AF. What is it? Another UI add-on?

[04:48:10] I've seen a Reddit post about a mid-Atlas loot thing that's more like a Pokédex. It updates

[04:48:15] as things drop for you and it remembers where things dropped. Oh, that would be cool! I

[04:48:20] I actually think that would be rad.

[04:48:33] Necro, thanks for the prime.

[04:48:37] Show your better blizz frames real quick.

[04:48:40] I'm using like the forever profile.

[04:48:44] Can you track unpicked quests?

[04:48:47] like with questie yes I believe like they're all on the map here he turns

[04:48:57] secondary lighting up probably good now put it on good where's the warrior

[04:49:08] trainer again bow of ours oh yeah we need that take the index to the overlook

[04:49:21] standing stones and highlands I also want to get ammo I don't know where any

[04:49:27] of these vendors are bro I need ammo I need my warrior training they've got to

[04:49:33] be around here somewhere

[04:49:38] the

[04:50:04] and

[04:50:20] Taylor in there. Alright, let's probably go this way.

[04:50:35] I'm sad you can't buff people's pets anymore. What? You can't?

[04:50:43] You can't? What? Wait, that's good. Hold on. Wait, no, that's actually good.

[04:50:50] No, no more hunters are gonna be like, yo, can you my pet please? It's actually so annoying. Nice. Nice. Nice. Nice. Yep

[04:50:56] Good change. W

[04:51:05] You they should do the same thing with warlock pets, I swear as a mage

[04:51:08] It's like can you intellect my imp? I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm um, bro

[04:51:12] One sec. Let me make water for all the priests that have been asking

[04:51:20] Uh, we need to war your training, bud.

[04:51:27] What?

[04:51:30] Hmm.

[04:51:32] Man, I'm so not used to this new town.

[04:51:40] Guess that's what a, I guess that's what a new town is.

[04:51:48] I don't know my battleshot showing now though.

[04:52:08] Guards!

[04:52:10] Guards!

[04:52:12] Guards!

[04:52:14] Okay, maybe there's some stuff over here

[04:52:18] Artisan weapon ooh I might need some another weapon

[04:52:29] Okay 8.3 dps two-handed mate it's 8.2 dps two-handed sword

[04:52:38] Yeah looks kind of insane

[04:52:40] guys we want mazer sword mazer sword

[04:52:56] yeah I've seen more sword we're going sword

[04:53:01] I'll actually keep my shield just in case so I'll probably take a dungeon

[04:53:08] soon anyway. Gales greetings. Wow, got we just got the glow up right there boys. We're strong

[04:53:26] now. Oh yeah, you're right. That's what this was. Hydwin at inactive. So what they need

[04:53:32] is a high wind active.

[04:53:48] Oh, maybe I can put visibility only in combat and then in combat.

[04:53:55] It'll come up. Yeah, let's do that. Let's do that. Maybe that'll be nice.

[04:54:00] Sky high quality, warrior trainer, where you at?

[04:54:06] There's gotta be a NPC, maybe it's, there's gotta be like a guard or something, a warrior

[04:54:20] trainer I see him in the corner of my eye.

[04:54:24] I swear they seemed to look at tell me when, yeah tell me when's perfect, Conor thanks

[04:54:27] Thanks for the Prime. Troy, thanks for the Super Chat. I took 7 days off in November 4th. Nice, dude. Enjoy.

[04:54:36] Oh, T-Stance, Thunder Armor, and Taunt. We got a big boy shield as well.

[04:54:41] So, let's check out the new level 10 Warrior Quest. Oh, yeah, let's get the Warriors, though.

[04:54:48] Bloodrage and Ren rank 2. How?

[04:54:57] Okay, let's go this way for a minute.

[04:55:09] Why is that pet so big?

[04:55:10] Yeah, it was pretty darn big, huh?

[04:55:15] Actually like secondary lighting on fair, kind of lightens up the screen a bit.

[04:55:22] Let's try out our new weapon.

[04:55:47] You put it right on your bars?

[04:55:48] Yeah, it's over here on the right.

[04:55:51] How'd I get the Uniframes? It's an add-on. I'll link them for you.

[04:55:59] I need that two-handed sword skill.

[04:56:09] This fast food breakfast, uh...

[04:56:13] Probably wouldn't recommend a fast food breakfast personally, you know, unless you're traveling or something you got to.

[04:56:19] to but honestly when I travel I should just fast it's like if I can't get good food I'll

[04:56:24] just take a little break from eating and even I get there but yeah it's not a big fast

[04:56:28] food guy personally.

[04:56:30] What race are you going on mage?

[04:56:36] Probably Nome.

[04:56:39] Probably Nome.

[04:56:45] bell go to order. I haven't hit tbell in a long time but um I used to just go with the

[04:56:54] crunchy tacos. I would get like the taco box with like I don't even know how many of them

[04:56:59] would be like 10 of them in a box. I would just slam those like basic hard shell tacos

[04:57:05] or I just thought we're very good. So I used to get

[04:57:08] Chipotle bro, I don't even go to Chipotle anymore. Chipotle like kind of sucks these days. It used

[04:57:17] to be good and I was just not.

[04:57:38] Thoughts on a Eureka nerf? It was probably a bit steep, but let's be honest, Eureka was OP, it did need a nerf, so it's probably a good thing overall.

[04:57:54] But from 50 to 10 is crazy.

[04:57:57] see. Acid spear.

[04:58:27] Why not go Undead on Mage?

[04:58:41] I played Undead last classic era launch.

[04:58:45] If I was to play Horde, I actually would play an Undead Mage.

[04:58:50] I don't know, maybe I will, if I, at some point, if I do an Undead, but I really want

[04:58:54] to be human or alliance rather. Yeah, that's what I'm in. Nope. I don't like staying up

[04:59:13] late anymore. On the forever launch, I might stay up like a little later than normal, but

[04:59:19] like I'm not going to stay up to like midnight or anything like that. The last time I was

[04:59:23] up till midnight was actually blizzcon and before that it was probably like like five

[04:59:28] years before that I don't even like to man I'm I'm just like old dude if I stay up till

[04:59:33] midnight I wake up the next day and my head hurts I have like a headache my eyes are pounding

[04:59:38] just feels awful yeah on status like I'm not it like I'm not even like a saying you're

[04:59:46] wrong absolutely. I appreciate that, happy? Gather data.

[05:00:16] what time do I wake up I think we got up to like maybe 6 30 this morning usually

[05:00:24] between 6 and 7 haha

[05:00:28] Yo, Rai, thanks for the 2-1 sub, man.

[05:00:44] Do you have kids?

[05:00:46] Yeah, I have a son.

[05:00:50] He's turning 3 in November, man.

[05:00:54] I'll get this copper vein over here.

[05:01:01] I have lots of quests up this way.

[05:01:04] I'm still a little on the weaker end, although I do a lot more damage now.

[05:01:08] I lost some of my tankiness.

[05:01:10] I kind of want to do my warrior quest.

[05:01:16] Yeah, the warrior quest is there.

[05:01:21] I think that'll give me quite a bit of power.

[05:01:51] What time do I sleep and wake? It kind of depends on the day. Like I said, we usually get up for like six or seven

[05:01:57] I'd say a lot of days were in bed before 10 or around 10

[05:02:04] Um some days a little a little earlier if I'm just like completely tired

[05:02:09] I need this nice my favorite class so far I've really only played mage and then this warrior

[05:02:24] mage and warrior my favorite two and classic the nil and rogue so those are the ones I wanted

[05:02:30] Check out first

[05:02:39] It's where you're leveling still bad

[05:02:42] Seems pretty chill

[05:02:45] Early levels kind of slow, but you know it comes online later

[05:02:48] Especially once you get like sweeping strikes and stuff. So just kind of how it goes for warrior

[05:02:52] So the rage at level like 10 so far is feeling pretty chill.

[05:03:03] We'll see how things continue to scale up.

[05:03:33] Dude, two crits?

[05:03:41] Are you kidding me?

[05:03:43] That's what I'm talking about.

[05:03:53] Gales greetings.

[05:03:56] Wow, there's a lot of quests here.

[05:04:00] I thought I was kind of gonna be done at level 10.

[05:04:03] No, this place kind of keeps going.

[05:04:05] There's like hours of quests here.

[05:04:08] I guess it'll probably spit me out

[05:04:09] at what, level 12 or something?

[05:04:12] Hungry Bandit.

[05:04:14] But oh, it goes to 14.

[05:04:15] Oh wow.

[05:04:18] So then right after this,

[05:04:19] I can do like the Iron Fort dungeon

[05:04:20] and then right after that go to Westville

[05:04:22] and get ready for deadlines.

[05:04:30] of

[05:04:54] Yeah, that's awesome. I'll probably find an add-on for that. Yeah, if not, I'll send that one like...

[05:05:00] Yeah, I

[05:05:03] think hopefully Blizzard could add that to the cooldown manager.

[05:05:08] I mean, it's the same cooldown manager on retail. I actually can't believe that...

[05:05:14] They haven't added like a hide-win active button. That seems kind of like a no-brainer.

[05:05:24] Oh crap. Alright boys, 1v3 here.

[05:05:38] Oh, we're locked in and dialed.

[05:05:55] 100% elendid!

[05:06:05] Okay, let's pick some more apples, we killed the bandits, get some more questernins.

[05:06:22] Warrior OP, I mean so far at level 10, like, warrior feels very similar to how it did.

[05:06:33] I had pretty bad gear earlier, it was tough to 1v1 those mobs, but now, you know, we got

[05:06:38] a new sword, it's a new gear, we're feeling alright.

[05:06:45] Layline buff is busted, yeah, if I can find one.

[05:06:47] Oh, it's up here, sick.

[05:06:52] You only have two buttons to press now, I mean, you have the same amount of buttons as

[05:06:54] ERA.

[05:07:03] Actually in a weird sense, since REND is like worth using now, I almost feel a little stronger.

[05:07:10] Cause before like you wouldn't even use rend.

[05:07:15] Not bad, not bad.

[05:07:26] Not leveling his prod.

[05:07:27] I might respect prod but the chat told me to try arms cause...

[05:07:34] So I wanted to see how the rage normalization felt.

[05:07:44] Ren definitely is filling that gap.

[05:07:46] Yeah, it feels like it a little bit.

[05:07:58] Can he level his fury?

[05:07:59] Yeah, usually fury doesn't come online for like a little later though.

[05:08:03] I'm not sure if it's a good idea to do that.

[05:08:33] I mean I want to try a setting real quick in a duel no okay at least he was honest oh my

[05:08:52] Oh my goodness.

[05:09:03] Why don't you use the swing timer?

[05:09:04] I just don't like how it looks.

[05:09:06] I'll probably wait to download the swing timer add-on.

[05:09:16] What's better about rending forever?

[05:09:17] I don't know.

[05:09:18] What do they do to make it better?

[05:09:19] They can crit now?

[05:09:21] Maybe that's the big difference? It can crit now?

[05:09:30] Oh, it also scales with AP. So it scales better and it can crit. Yeah, it's just like such a better button.

[05:09:36] Which is pretty cool.

[05:09:51] Oh, it procs overpower as well?

[05:10:17] I wonder if Ren is going to be worth pressing in your rotation then.

[05:10:34] ,

[05:10:53] what is my purpose

[05:11:00] Speak with Amelia Winfield about the cyclone construct, okay

[05:11:11] Good question

[05:11:13] This has kind of like Summit vibes, yeah a little bit definitely.

[05:12:02] What's this recently smacked smack flutter fly

[05:12:20] Where'd it go?

[05:12:24] And a layer that I learned

[05:12:26] Oh, it's in the ground?

[05:12:33] Ah, butterfly dust.

[05:12:36] Man, it's so different, not just like knowing all the quests.

[05:12:43] I feel like an idiot.

[05:12:46] Where do I have my focus frame?

[05:12:47] Uh, let me show you.

[05:12:58] Where is Focus?

[05:13:05] Right there.

[05:13:07] I, um...

[05:13:09] I actually love Focus frames so much.

[05:13:12] It's gonna be so fun to play a warrior

[05:13:14] and now I can actually like focus intercept, focus kick, it's like mechanically so fun.

[05:13:29] Yeah I love the spain, glad you're enjoying the podcast man.

[05:13:34] Imagine affliction locks with focus, yeah locks do get kind of like buff the most here.

[05:13:39] there. Focus dots, focus fears, there's so many different mechanics. What's focus

[05:13:53] do it allows you to have a second target essentially so it is one of the easiest 50k in his life

[05:14:11] beating ex-qc and poker

[05:14:13] can tuff you

[05:14:15] hahaha

[05:14:17] oh my gosh

[05:14:37] how do you activate a focus target

[05:14:39] add sets it or you can click set focus to set it and then you make macros to

[05:14:46] cast on your focus target so you can have two targets at the same time

[05:14:52] I

[05:15:04] Is in track next to the front

[05:15:22] ,

[05:15:36] over all I like them my big complaint is the end of the rotation is going to be incredibly simplistic

[05:15:41] in a raid

[05:15:45] Someone just traded pay you 100 gold. Wow hundred, huh?

[05:15:54] Waterfly dust

[05:16:04] Any news on she bet I think he's finishing up his classic series and he's gonna full send heavily

[05:16:15] I'm using leecherks maps all my addons are here big fan of the videos. Yeah, we're up to Germany

[05:16:31] Bros. Had in Germany last year Alan Cologne and Colm as you guys say

[05:16:36] Is that a weird place for copper vein not on a mountain just in the middle of a grassy

[05:16:45] field?

[05:16:48] Can that happen normally?

[05:16:55] It's just thinking that.

[05:17:25] Oh crap.

[05:17:37] Um, can I kill those three?

[05:17:47] Probably not.

[05:17:52] Okay, I don't need any of that.

[05:18:12] One-handed mage with 4.7 thieves, and we deem up as well.

[05:18:16] Let's go.

[05:18:19] Level 11.

[05:18:20] Okay, let's re-get this Ley line up here. Let's vendor everything.

[05:18:27] 4.7 deeps on a one-hander. Probably still not good enough.

[05:18:31] My shield is gonna be green now too.

[05:18:37] Got level 11. Let's grab this real quick.

[05:18:40] a lot of criticism for Sky Elves but I'm enjoying them and I'm glad you're enjoying

[05:18:51] them.

[05:18:53] Layline is like a new Sky Elf thing where, or a new Sky, Skyborn thing, Skyborn Elf

[05:19:01] whatever, where if you use your racial on it you get 100% increased health and mana

[05:19:08] for 15 minutes. 15 minutes, 100% HP in... Man, are you Jen? It's crazy. So when I'm

[05:19:19] out of combat, you'll really be able to tell. 80%, 87%, 94%, see that? It's just like way

[05:19:30] more region than you would normally expect. Seems OP. It's OP if you're like speed leveling,

[05:19:41] but I don't think it'll be like OP in like a lot of the other aspects of the game. So

[05:19:54] good for warrior leveling. Torrens I think will be good for warrior leveling, even better

[05:19:59] than that. Movement speed on the roads seems ridiculous.

[05:20:29] I need seven masks seems like a low drop right here. Look at my HP with this buff bro. I'm like perma full

[05:20:43] Keeping my name level 11 and these guys are level 9 so

[05:20:47] Is Cam slightly out of sync? Test, test, test, test.

[05:21:17] Single name yeah, I just have an add-on that shows only the one

[05:21:47] I mean, yeah man, lots of quests, lots of things to do.

[05:22:00] I'd still think my favorite part of this entire area is like the shrine of Akir and the ruins

[05:22:04] of vandalized or whatever.

[05:22:11] Can you get more copper if I want to make better gear?

[05:22:25] I can't get over how cool the sword looks.

[05:22:27] You like it?

[05:22:28] It's not bad.

[05:22:29] It's pretty big.

[05:22:30] There's jumping increased EPS?

[05:22:31] Ah, yes.

[05:22:32] By a lot.

[05:22:33] How to remove the griffins on your bars? You do it in edit mode. Just click on them in edit mode and then click hide.

[05:22:46] There's no way.

[05:22:50] Okay, 1v3 baby.

[05:23:03] He's looting Oh, that dot's gonna hurt.

[05:23:21] There we go.

[05:23:25] If they change skyborne color, you can choose the skin color.

[05:23:29] It doesn't have to be blue.

[05:23:30] was just what they wanted to showcase at BlizzCon, which was probably not a good idea.

[05:23:38] But you can have other skin colors.

[05:23:41] Okay, I don't know how to get that.

[05:23:48] up there. I don't know if you can. It's scary hours for you, it's only 2.40 bro, it's not

[05:24:12] Yeah, I don't know how to get that. It might be un-gittable.

[05:24:38] reachable nodes flying confirmed is this in-game music yeah the in-game music

[05:24:44] is pretty great huh when is 30 release next Thursday did I read the patch

[05:24:50] notes yes I started playing skyborne today it's actually not bad at all yeah

[05:24:56] it's definitely not bad

[05:25:03] next Thursday yes

[05:25:08] So when does the rage start to feel bad as arms like what love it's like more like 14 or 15

[05:25:30] It's just when you don't get hit

[05:25:38] So when you when you're like in a dungeon I

[05:25:44] Have to say like I've leveled so many warriors on air off and when you're not tanking as a warrior

[05:25:50] It is really annoying because you don't have enough on era

[05:25:54] You don't have enough rage to hit any buttons at low level if you're not the tank if you're not the tank

[05:25:59] You're just doing zero damage. It's awful. That's why it's nice to tank as the warrior

[05:26:08] That's in replacing layers and shards with a RuneScape architecture like I don't know.

[05:26:30] I would like I think I said this yesterday.

[05:26:32] I would like to play test that.

[05:26:35] I would like to play test it for like a few weeks and just see how it would feel.

[05:26:39] Because I think there would be positives, but I think there would also be a lot of negatives.

[05:26:55] I'll save you!

[05:27:05] Yeah, if you haven't played a runescape runescape.com, you can find the link in the description below.

[05:27:34] RuneScape doesn't have layers or realms, they have worlds.

[05:27:42] So when you connect to play RuneScape, you can choose world one through like a thousand

[05:27:47] or whatever.

[05:27:49] And if the world is full, you can't play on it.

[05:27:52] But that means in the world, it's like, what, like a thousand player pop or something?

[05:27:55] A couple thousand players per world?

[05:27:58] So every world, it's not like you're ever going to get layered.

[05:28:00] If you're on the world, you're on the world, period.

[05:28:02] people are on there or the people on there and if you want to swap worlds you just press

[05:28:08] world swap swap worlds. I don't think it works as well and wow especially with resources

[05:28:17] like mine like people like bots would be awful you just sit in one spot or like get a mine

[05:28:22] swap worlds get a mine swap worlds get a mine swap worlds get a mine swap worlds and a runescape

[05:28:26] that that's what people do by the way in runescape for like certain things like buying from a

[05:28:32] a vendor, they'll buy an item from a vendor, swap worlds, buy it from a vendor, swap worlds,

[05:28:36] like in RuneScape it just works to where that's actually not an issue, but in WoW I think it

[05:28:41] would be an issue. That's why I'm a little hesitant. Like it works in RuneScape, I just don't think it

[05:28:45] really works in WoW.

[05:28:57] They fixed Arcade missiles, right? Yeah.

[05:29:02] Oh wow, final, uh follow Amelia and make your final stand.

[05:29:09] Huh, six?

[05:29:12] Those don't all come out once, right?

[05:29:15] Too afraid to come and fight face Feru, so we send you.

[05:29:19] He's still in the hills of the peacekeeper clearing out the rest of your lackeys, I'm

[05:29:21] sure they'll be along any minute and would love to see you.

[05:29:25] Ha, poor Bluff, Feru has eyes and ears everywhere, I know that it's just you, the scrawny stranger

[05:29:31] You've had your fun putting down a few of my weaker recruits, but the bludgeon is here now and the party's over time to pay up with interest

[05:29:40] That's not

[05:29:43] I'm done talking stranger. Thanks for everything. Oh, there we go

[05:29:49] Chain lighting kills them all

[05:29:52] Function fulfilled resuming rest mode

[05:29:56] Nice, okay. Sure

[05:29:58] inventory is full hey get back here I want to turn my quest in Amelia I just

[05:30:09] went up took got it

[05:30:21] Got it. Okay.

[05:30:25] Two seconds, but we're good.

[05:30:28] Deliver the news, catching wind, and then we have our warrior quest. Let's go.

[05:30:36] We have a lot of stuff to bender as well. Let me run it, find one of those like, whirlwind things.

[05:30:42] I got to level 15 in this zone. That's crazy. Yeah.

[05:30:45] I don't know why in my head this zone went to level 10 and then spit you out somewhere and then you would like go somewhere else from there

[05:30:54] It's supposed to leave here at 14 I think

[05:30:56] This one feels a little bit like Mr. Pandaria, yeah, a little bit, although thanks for the

[05:31:18] prime.

[05:31:39] You think don't flush out the syndicate in a while forever?

[05:31:41] I hope so, that'd be cool.

[05:32:04] I ain't paying 30 for this, I'm sorry.

[05:32:07] I mean, I would really only pay 30 for this if you plan to play a Skyborne, you know?

[05:32:19] I plan to play a Gnome, so.

[05:32:30] Did that survey we aren't supposed to share make anyone else nervous?

[05:32:35] What survey?

[05:32:36] what you're talking about. I paid 30 bucks to play the beta. Wait, is it 30 bucks to

[05:32:48] play the beta or 60? I don't know why I thought it was 60. Beta is 60? That's what I thought,

[05:33:02] So 7.0, but my top end is from 31 to 21 I get one string. I don't think that's even worth it, bro

[05:33:13] I'll get a trusty wrench. Oh, that's actually vendor for a silver

[05:33:18] Okay, we have another quest turn in and I want to vendor up this I don't really need warrior

[05:33:40] training yet there's a guild master over here bro is it just me or do they need to put a few

[05:33:47] more vendors in these towns. Maybe I'm just a noob. I keep running into empty buildings.

[05:33:52] Okay, here's one.

[05:33:59] Alright, 4.7 DPS. I'll vendor that.

[05:34:06] It was really spread out. It feels pretty darn spread out.

[05:34:11] It's also just like a new zone, so I don't know where the heck I'm going, so there's

[05:34:19] that.

[05:34:20] That might be more of the issue, whereas generally I run with some level of intentionality, but

[05:34:27] in this, I'm just blindly running around, so I need to smelt.

[05:34:36] I don't know if there's a forge anywhere, but I'm gonna go turn this quest in over here

[05:34:43] regardless and then do the warrior quest.

[05:34:51] Is intentionality not a word?

[05:34:54] If it's not a word, it totally should be, it's a great word.

[05:35:03] It is a word, definitely a word?

[05:35:04] Okay, good.

[05:35:05] say if that's not a word at 100% should be.

[05:35:16] Okay, and that looks like there might be a forge. Yeah,

[05:35:18] that's a forge.

[05:35:24] Protip, talk to the guards to find out where different NPCs

[05:35:28] are located.

[05:35:29] I can't find the guards.

[05:35:32] I literally can't find the guard. I'm like trying to look for

[05:35:34] guards, there's like citizens, blacksmiths, peacekeeper, that might be one there.

[05:35:40] I was looking for a guard earlier.

[05:35:42] How good is my Spanish, awful.

[05:35:48] Intentionality.

[05:35:54] Intentionality is the capacity of the mind and mental states to be about represent or

[05:35:57] point towards something else. Yeah, great word. Great word. There's multiple people

[05:36:10] that called me out too. Very nice word I would say personally if you ask me. Okay so mining

[05:36:23] trainer I feel like I'm mining up a bit here and my blacksmithing is high enough to make

[05:36:27] some more greens which is pretty fire. We have like a ton of copper now.

[05:36:42] Load stone height. Let's make one of these.

[05:36:47] Sharpening wheel might as well make one of those copper chain boots.

[05:36:57] Are you kidding me?

[05:36:58] Oh, yeah

[05:37:17] Wait, oh, I never made the boots

[05:37:22] How did I get the bronze UI all my add-ons are here

[05:37:28] Rested XP, I think Rested XP will be updated for forever.

[05:37:35] I'm actually sponsored by Rested XP, and I think they're great if you want to speed level, but I

[05:37:40] Do want to say that I will not be using Rested XP at least for my first many characters in the

[05:37:47] Forever expansion because I want to level slow. I want it. I want to go slow. That's the whole point for me

[05:37:53] So since I'm not speed leveling and trying to take it fast and trying to get there. I'm not gonna use it

[05:37:58] But I still love Rested XP. Please sponsor me. Or please keep the sponsor, but yeah. That is the truth.

[05:38:12] Copper Chain Pants. Make some of these.

[05:38:20] Okay, we'll vendor that, and we'll vendor that, and we'll vendor those. We'll probably vendor those too.

[05:38:28] Man classic WoW is truly the best version of WoW as an RPG and now they're just expanding

[05:38:35] on it with this.

[05:38:36] It's just so nice.

[05:38:38] So nice.

[05:38:43] Proved to rend.

[05:38:44] Okay that's good.

[05:38:45] We have a nice strong bow now.

[05:38:51] Bro, I totally thought we were like almost done in the zone and they just keep spitting

[05:38:59] out so many items, so many quests.

[05:39:07] I still haven't done my level 10 warrior quest.

[05:39:11] That two-handed weapon looks cool.

[05:39:12] Yeah, it's pretty rad.

[05:39:14] You're like three fourths there.

[05:39:19] Yeah.

[05:39:20] I mean, I think about what you see on my map is what I would assume is all the quests until we get spit out on the main land.

[05:39:36] I'm, uh, Lyons.

[05:39:39] Is this your turny character? No, I'm not gonna prep a turny character since I'm hosting the tournament.

[05:39:46] Yeah, what up the Poland? How's it going?

[05:39:50] So no real hot streak in forever. What do you think hot streak as normal hot streak might be to OP

[05:39:57] But I think it needs to rework from the current iteration because crit chance is so low

[05:40:02] It's just like a dead talent while you're leveling

[05:40:06] Tower defense report to your Rana

[05:40:11] Rats

[05:40:13] I'm surprised no one's talking about the Skyborne mail run animation and dance.

[05:40:29] It's just the retail stuff.

[05:40:30] I think what people are talking about is they should add an SD toggle to the Skyborne and

[05:40:35] just turn them into the Blood Elf model.

[05:40:37] I really think they should, bro.

[05:40:39] I really do.

[05:40:48] What graphics card?

[05:40:49] I got 5090.

[05:40:52] Shout out to StarForge Systems.

[05:41:05] Are they not the Blood Elf model?

[05:41:06] They are.

[05:41:07] That's what I'm saying.

[05:41:08] Man, the game is so gorgeous.

[05:41:18] Is that an OTK event officially?

[05:41:19] I don't think so, no.

[05:41:22] Well, maybe it is, I don't know.

[05:41:24] TIPS is putting it on, maybe it is.

[05:41:31] It's not the Blood Elf dance,

[05:41:32] but I have to reanimate the dance and stuff, huh?

[05:41:36] Alicath healer, uh-oh

[05:41:56] How does wow plus feel it feels pretty darn good, bro

[05:42:06] Is Ren stronger?

[05:42:12] I think so.

[05:42:13] It's only 10 rage to use it and it can crit and it scales with AP I guess so.

[05:42:22] Seems like it's still worth using.

[05:42:24] Do you think they should add a new class?

[05:42:26] I'm terrified of them adding a new class.

[05:42:29] I think there's a higher chance the new class ends up being crazy in a way that breaks the

[05:42:35] game and you lose your classic feeling a bit. I would, if it was me and like you guys might

[05:42:44] be happy I'm not in charge but if it was me and I was in charge I would not think about

[05:42:49] adding a new class for probably two or three years minimum. Let the thing play out, add

[05:42:54] some content, add some raids, add some dungeons, add some other content and new class down

[05:43:01] the road. I would literally just put it off for a long time. Eventually, sure, maybe.

[05:43:10] It's, you know, it's a conversation, but I wouldn't even be thinking about it right

[05:43:13] now. There's so much other stuff to worry about.

[05:43:31] And yeah, and to add to that personally, if we never got a new class, I would be just fine with that.

[05:43:42] If this game went 10 years and we just got new quests, new dungeons, new raids, new items, reasons to level alts, tournaments, I'm fine.

[05:43:57] I'm okay with never getting a new class in this game, but like that's how much it freaks me out

[05:44:04] But at the very least I would wait like you know one that two years three years before you've been like thinking about it

[05:44:14] Save it for literal last resort that that's that's that's my mindset. Yeah save it for more of a last resort thing

[05:44:20] It's just not something that think about anytime soon

[05:44:22] That's my take. I know a lot of you guys agree with it. I know like very polarizing. A lot

[05:44:30] of you disagree with that too, which is totally fine. I was I was reading some stuff online

[05:44:37] that confused me a bit. I want to be very clear. I want to be very clear about something. It is

[05:44:45] 100% okay in this stream to have differing opinions and still coexist.

[05:44:57] That shouldn't need to be said ever, but I want that to be clear.

[05:45:02] If you have a differing opinion than me, that's okay.

[05:45:08] We don't have to agree on everything and still just be chill, right?

[05:45:13] For example, I don't think there should be a new class anytime soon. If you think there is, that's okay.

[05:45:20] Really should have need to be said, but there was a couple of things that I was reading online that was that were confusing me saying like,

[05:45:27] I don't remember exactly what it said. I don't want to paraphrase it wrong,

[05:45:30] but people felt as if they had to agree with me and I'm like, dude, you don't have to agree with me. Absolutely not.

[05:45:38] I can tell you my reasoning, but you don't have to agree with me.

[05:45:43] I was talking to ampy the other week and he was talking about how he really liked 40 man raids in

[05:45:51] Classic wow and I disagree with him, but he honestly had a pretty good point

[05:45:55] I was like, oh, yeah, you have a really good point of why you like 40 man raids

[05:45:59] He liked the ecosystem it built and he liked how it brings guilds together and I was like, oh, that's cool

[05:46:05] I still disagree with you though, but I think you have a good point, you know, so I think I

[05:46:09] I think that's like I don't know once again shouldn't need to be said, but I want to say it anyway

[05:46:29] To these healing moms are tough but no kick they just always heal back to full here I

[05:46:36] Disagree with you that we can have different opinions

[05:46:39] Ah

[05:47:02] The showback PvP was so fun today, dude

[05:47:04] I still have not really had a chance to PvP yet like world PvP

[05:47:08] I only did that first day right when I hit 20 besides now either the servers have been down or I've been getting here

[05:47:15] Or I've been leveling like

[05:47:19] Today I was going to and there was lag so maybe next week. I'll actually get to do some PvP

[05:47:38] No stream tomorrow? I generally don't stream on the weekends. I will hear in there, but

[05:47:53] I on the weekends I try to go touch some grass most of the time.

[05:48:14] Yo boo!

[05:48:15] Thanks for the T1.

[05:48:16] Does grass even grow in Arizona?

[05:48:18] There's some.

[05:48:19] plentiful though how's guy's doing craven

[05:48:49] Touch some dirt? Yeah, I more like it. Didn't know you were in Arizona. Yep, Tucson Arizona

[05:48:58] here man. I was born out in California but I've spent like most of my life here.

[05:49:19] I was born out in Santa Barbara, but we moved when I was young then

[05:49:31] Did I know you were in Tucson Bear Down, baby?

[05:49:37] Yeah, Tucson, man.

[05:49:52] Is Tucson freezing like Phoenix this week?

[05:49:54] I mean, it's not super cool, it was nice, it's finally getting nice though, man.

[05:49:58] It's finally getting nice.

[05:50:02] San Diego here?

[05:50:03] Oh my gosh, I'm jealous, bro.

[05:50:04] San Diego's the dream.

[05:50:12] Dude, what is the drop rate on these charms?

[05:50:14] We've been six out of 10 for a minute here.

[05:50:28] I mean the warrior APM is definitely a lot higher than like the mage one.

[05:50:57] I'll tell you that much, I think coming from a mage to a warrior, it's like, oh my gosh.

[05:51:07] 4%, 1%, oh, I didn't have to pot, I think I was actually fine.

[05:51:23] I've been to Germany and Greece out in Europe.

[05:51:31] Do you have a 60 template of what your mage challenge

[05:51:33] might look like?

[05:51:34] I think I did a YouTube video

[05:51:36] where I break down all the specs

[05:51:37] that I think are gonna be good.

[05:51:39] The TLBR Frost Arcane for PvP and for PvE,

[05:51:45] it'll either be Deep Arcane or a Frost Fire Build,

[05:51:49] I think, depending on how Blizzard scales things.

[05:51:52] Right now it seems like arcane's a bit weak so it'll probably be a frost fire build where

[05:51:57] you go into frost and get like shatter and fingers and you go into fire and get like

[05:52:02] ignite and firepower and stuff but you don't quite have an optimistic combust and then you'll

[05:52:08] be basically spamming frost fire bolt, ice lances, fire blasts and getting pyro procs

[05:52:14] which actually sounds pretty fun but those are just some guesses who knows who knows

[05:52:19] this will actually be scaled, you know,

[05:52:22] like how things will scale and this and that.

[05:52:28] I've been watching your YouTube shorts lately.

[05:52:30] Just wanted to say I appreciate your level headed takes

[05:52:32] on the game.

[05:52:33] Yeah, thanks man.

[05:52:34] Like I try to have, I mean, I would like to think,

[05:52:39] you know, pretty balanced takes most of the time,

[05:52:41] but based on what I'm reading online,

[05:52:44] people don't seem to think so,

[05:52:46] or not everyone seems to think so,

[05:52:48] which I guess is part of it, if you have a balanced take and someone on the extreme might think it's not balanced.

[05:52:55] So I guess that only makes sense.

[05:53:00] But still, it doesn't...

[05:53:02] When I read comments, sometimes I'm like, ah, I see how I can...

[05:53:04] It does not.

[05:53:18] You just love the game and see all sides.

[05:53:33] I mean, one of the things about me that I think makes me see the game clearer than some

[05:53:39] other people is that I...

[05:53:42] How do I say this?

[05:53:45] I don't care anymore.

[05:53:51] Okay, let me explain.

[05:53:52] I am not a competitive player anymore.

[05:53:58] I don't care to win a tournament.

[05:54:01] I don't care to, I don't care if my class

[05:54:04] is the number one parser.

[05:54:06] I don't care if they, I want the game to be good.

[05:54:10] I don't care about my specific performance

[05:54:13] as much as a lot of other people do,

[05:54:15] in the sense that I was competitive for a very long time

[05:54:18] and now I play to chill.

[05:54:21] So I want the game to be good.

[05:54:24] I don't have this like personal like,

[05:54:26] oh, if my class isn't good, then like,

[05:54:27] ah, it's like, ah, I'll just play some more classes then.

[05:54:31] Or I want the game to feel good.

[05:54:34] So I think that's like one of the big differences for me.

[05:54:38] Casual Andy now, sure, fine.

[05:54:40] But like, I think back in the day,

[05:54:43] I remember critiquing things back in the day

[05:54:46] when I was an active like either tournament player

[05:54:50] or like farming for rank ones and top of the ladder

[05:54:53] and this and that.

[05:54:53] And I had a much different take.

[05:54:55] It was a lot less balanced

[05:54:56] because it was more like I need my class to own two,

[05:55:01] you know, but now I don't really even have that bias.

[05:55:03] I'm like, yeah, I don't really care.

[05:55:04] I'll play a warrior if Mages, you know,

[05:55:06] I'll play someone else.

[05:55:07] I'll just play what I'm enjoying too.

[05:55:09] I'll probably have a bunch of classes anyway.

[05:55:24] See the drop rate on this crawler meat.

[05:55:26] Okay, if it's pretty decent I think I might just farm this too.

[05:55:30] I've been putting it off long enough.

[05:55:32] We'll go on the leg, farm the crawler meat, turn in some more quests, and then we'll hit

[05:55:35] level 12.

[05:55:36] I still haven't done my level 10 warrior quest, man.

[05:55:38] I've just been non-stop questing

[05:55:42] Wonder what my slash blade is

[05:55:44] Four hours, and I'm level

[05:55:47] Almost level 12 and four hours. Is that slow or fast? I think it's actually decent

[05:55:58] Low average fast

[05:56:03] Like obviously I'm not trying to speed level I'm not like you know

[05:56:06] I literally like went AFK to go eat some lunch without logging out

[05:56:25] Okay, I need two more crawler me somebody just wait for a respawn or see if they're up here so I'm to worry about it

[05:57:06] I think I need one more crawler meat.

[05:57:09] I don't really see any over there.

[05:57:12] Let's grind these for a little longer.

[05:57:20] Did they really not put a flight path in Dalaran?

[05:57:22] What do you, it's like a,

[05:57:25] like the town is like taking over, right?

[05:57:28] What do you mean?

[05:57:31] Why does the bag space show 200 spots?

[05:57:34] Oh, weird.

[05:57:35] Yeah, it must be a bug.

[05:57:36] 199. Huh.

[05:57:39] Was this survey BS or legit? I guess it was legit.

[05:57:45] Oh, it's my arrow count. And it's kind of misleading though, isn't it?

[05:57:54] Hey, level 12!

[05:57:58] Woohoo, let's go three to three rend.

[05:58:02] Now we're pumping. I'm gonna wait for one more respawn here.

[05:58:06] My Valinar Hearth is not up yet.

[05:58:10] Actually, while I'm up here, hit that Warrior quest and Hearth back to Valinar.

[05:58:27] The wall behind me is made of wood.

[05:58:30] It's called Stickwood.

[05:58:31] I haven't got a chance to do the survey.

[05:58:34] Was it already closed?

[05:58:35] I haven't done it yet either.

[05:58:37] Oh, here's a crab down here.

[05:58:49] Man, the water looks good.

[05:58:50] Honestly so far warriors have been feeling great. I think the big thing is like if warriors

[05:59:08] have a rage problem later in the game, especially with the normalization, what warriors probably

[05:59:16] need is rend giving you more rage as like a talent and fury unbridled wrath buffs. If

[05:59:25] you're going rage starved you just buff unbridled wrath. For fury and for arms you give rend,

[05:59:31] make rend into a rage gen and pra is fine. But I think that's something you can like

[05:59:36] keep an eye on too. Like as players are getting higher levels and you're hitting higher end

[05:59:44] content like even like level 30, level 40, how's it feeling?

[06:00:07] I think it would be interesting to have Rend in the rotation as arms. If you don't actually,

[06:00:11] classic era no one really does arm stuff having rend on a oh hopefully arms is like

[06:00:19] decently playable as a warrior that'd be kind of cool

[06:00:28] yeah you definitely press it now yeah it's great as I'm at an era

[06:00:42] Is this new DS DLSS 5 nah, bro

[06:00:48] What are we doing I'm checking out the sky born starting area since I actually haven't had a chance to check it out till now

[06:00:55] And it's been it's been a blast so far of definitely things that are a little more on the retail side of things or more modern looking but

[06:01:03] It's a blast so far. Oh

[06:01:06] 9.1 DPS

[06:01:08] Maze with two strength

[06:01:10] Two spirit holy crap

[06:01:15] And we got two strength gloves

[06:01:19] Cool

[06:01:22] Okay, so one of the things that I just thought of right now is it still feels really good to get an upgrade like those are the things

[06:01:29] That are important

[06:01:30] I was actually a little worried like is the game gonna be

[06:01:33] Retailified to where you're getting upgrades so fast where you don't feel like the importance of it

[06:01:38] But the answer is no you absolutely do like two-strength gloves still feels like oh, yeah, and that's important

[06:01:45] Right, that's very fundamental to the classic experience

[06:01:56] Wait till dungeons the thing is they've they said they've already been looking at dungeon

[06:02:02] Quests early and they they actually agreed. I think it was in the podcast. They were saying like

[06:02:06] We don't want you feeling like you're just replacing your greens instantly so they actually

[06:02:11] might make it so you don't get greens until a bit later, which I thought was kind of cool.

[06:02:23] Or blues, blues, blues, blues until a little bit later, exactly.

[06:02:27] you actually like sit with greens for a while.

[06:02:57] I think it's because the zone is so big they wanted you to be able to run through quicker

[06:03:20] maybe but it definitely feels more like a modern mechanic like you don't get that when

[06:03:26] you're questing and like, like Molochor, it's like you just, you just run slow, you know?

[06:03:32] Or like, but some of these starting zones are smaller, so maybe they wanted to make it

[06:03:38] a bit easier. Okay, so this is the level 10 warrior quest. I'm level 12 now, don't think

[06:03:43] we'll have a problem here. I can't believe normally I do this right at 10 on my warrior

[06:03:49] like every time, but I'm level, I get taunt and de-stance and is it just taunt and de-stance

[06:03:56] or one more. This guy popped shield wall. Alright bro. Alright, we get it, we get it.

[06:04:08] Inventory is full. Wow. Let's get rid of some food. Okay, so let's hurt back. I'll turn

[06:04:18] in a bunch of quests and then get some level 12 warrior training and get like taunt and

[06:04:23] stuff and then we'll come up here and finish the rest of these quests and we'll see what that puts us at.

[06:04:34] Environment looks classic but mobs and armor don't. I think it's some mobs and some armor

[06:04:40] but I generally agree. Yeah the environment looks great and some mobs and some armor feel a bit out

[06:04:44] of place. Alright let's turn this in. Boom. Inventory is full I should have known. Okay here we go.

[06:04:52] Let's sell all our junk first and then go to crab season continue complete. We'll lock that in a dial. I don't still have to level up my cooking though

[06:05:02] Um, oh yeah, we get Sunder armor as well true

[06:05:09] So in classic while when you get Sunder armor, it's like really worth kind of just spamming Sunder for a while

[06:05:15] I wonder if that's still the case

[06:05:22] I

[06:05:28] Lando said no, it's not worth it anymore because you don't have rage I trust Alondo

[06:05:52] and warriors have so many macros and I don't have any of my warrior macros here so we are

[06:06:01] just gonna be making macros man

[06:06:31] Be careful sir my game wasn't saving macros. Yeah, I should re-log

[06:06:47] This guy says Valinar has auction house and a banker in case you didn't know what wait it has an auction house

[06:06:56] Where I'll have to explore a little bit more

[06:07:01] I wonder if they should have an auction house. That's crazy. I mean, I guess you're not leaving till 14 and you normally would

[06:07:07] see the auction house if you were

[06:07:09] No, I'm or human or night elf before 14. So I guess that does make sense

[06:07:26] Okay

[06:07:28] Let's go turn these in. Did I get my warrior training besides my new stuff? I actually don't think I did

[06:07:35] Train level 12. Yeah, I don't think I don't think I actually trained 12 yet. Let's go do that

[06:07:43] Overpowered paddle shout shield bash up just a couple couple things that might be kind of important here

[06:07:49] Man, I need a lot of macros. Oh goodness. Warrior macros. It would probably be quicker

[06:08:05] to copy and paste all my macros from era.

[06:08:35] Okay.

[06:08:53] Remove the rank from the macro, yeah.

[06:08:58] Probably would 100% be quicker to copy and paste all of them, but it's only level 20.

[06:09:04] Do you seriously need to macro everything as a warrior you kind of do I hate this

[06:09:09] I mean you don't need to but as a like I don't want to be dramatic

[06:09:13] But as a warrior it's like the one class like you don't need macros is like anything

[06:09:17] But as a warrior, it's like you kind of do and if you play a warrior, you know what I'm talking about

[06:09:24] It's like it's tough to play a warrior that macros

[06:09:26] Yeah, you guys you guys know I'm talking about as I'm made you can get away with no macros

[06:09:35] like all the way to level 20 you're chill I mean of course you could but you don't you

[06:09:38] don't need them I think any other class but as a warrior it's it's really hard to stand

[06:09:43] stands without macros I mean you can but I never learned to do it I always use macros

[06:09:50] When I first learned Warrior, I was trying to figure out how I wanted to build my keybinds.

[06:09:56] And the way I actually built them on my Warrior is I have everything built in.

[06:10:05] So basically, if I want to go D-Stance, I have no D-Stance keybind.

[06:10:10] I just hit taunt or I hit.

[06:10:16] If I want to go battle, I hit charge or overpower.

[06:10:20] So I just hit the key I want to hit and it swaps me so I just like learn to play that way so basically like if I don't make a macro I'm like oh I don't have any way to swap stances then if I want to swap to Zercher stands I just hit whirlwind

[06:10:47] like I just hit the key bind that puts me into the stance that I want to go in so

[06:10:52] the way I play is I play without stances in a sense but I still have to look at

[06:10:57] my rage because you know if you swap and it's in a bad time you lose all your

[06:11:00] rage so you have to think about when it's proper to swap but you just hit the

[06:11:04] keybind that makes that puts you to where you want to go okay we have a nice big

[06:11:24] green two-handed mace baby and a new shield. I think that's the way like most

[06:11:36] high-end warriors play to my knowledge. Although if you're a really high-end warrior

[06:11:41] you probably have stances, keybound and you do it the way I play. So if you want

[06:11:46] to swap manually you can or it's you swapped built-in you do it like kind of

[06:11:50] both but I think a lot of like a lot of really good warriors do it this way

[06:11:56] that's why I decided to do it this way because I was like okay yeah let's might as well learn

[06:12:00] But what you're supposed to do...

[06:12:05] Oh, actually I do want that.

[06:12:13] Farewell.

[06:12:30] Okay, so let's just go up this way.

[06:12:57] Mmm

[06:13:06] Oh, I just realized something with that cool-down manager

[06:13:23] I want overpower procs on there, don't I?

[06:13:27] Wait, can you not put an overpower proc on here?

[06:13:34] You have to, overpower?

[06:13:37] You can't?

[06:13:39] So one thing I want, you can't do that one?

[06:13:41] No they forgot it.

[06:13:43] So the only one I would actually ever want to put, I think.

[06:13:48] What else would you even want?

[06:13:51] Use the combat text?

[06:13:52] Yeah, I think the combat text might already be on.

[06:13:55] Here, I'll put over power should probably be in the cool down manager for warrior.

[06:14:09] Cool.

[06:14:11] Oh, I don't have any two-in-a-maze skill.

[06:14:23] like what's going on? Did Zara react to the warrior problems video? Yeah.

[06:14:35] We'll see if we get an overpower proc in a second here.

[06:14:40] I feel like I'm lagging a little on this one. It's Ren worth pressing now? It is, apparently.

[06:14:53] Well, now Battleshow is not showing.

[06:15:06] Oh, it spells.

[06:15:10] Wait, what's this?

[06:15:13] There's box and spells.

[06:15:15] Wait, you can put overpower as a spell?

[06:15:22] Oh, thanks, baby.

[06:15:35] I'm so confused. There's essential, oh essential cool downs. Okay, maybe this will work. I'll

[06:15:54] try that. I don't know why battle shouts not here anymore. My favorite class is still

[06:16:14] mage yeah but I swear warriors actually just like more fun to level is then a mage it's

[06:16:31] just like more engaging bro as a lifelong mage it's just so you cannot be leveling

[06:16:37] overpower okay so that that thing will pop up but the thing here the essential

[06:16:46] cooldowns I would I thought might have lit up overpower since I had it but I

[06:16:51] should not the case although the cooldown manager isn't working for buffs

[06:16:56] either because battle shouts up and it's not showing that

[06:17:01] Dude, maybe the whole thing is broken right now.

[06:17:17] I think the whole thing is broken right now, I don't know.

[06:17:20] Tayden, you're still on this?

[06:17:23] No, we literally just did that the first time in like two hours.

[06:17:27] Some classes are just broken right now.

[06:17:28] warrior should be working. Okay, let's kill a couple mobs here. I want to get my overpower

[06:17:38] as that is like fine. Disable and re-enable it, should fix it. Oh, in here. I don't know.

[06:17:55] Oh, it's the wrong rank.

[06:18:07] Okay, you're right, it is the wrong rank.

[06:18:22] Well, yeah, it was the wrong rank. Okay, you should not have to drag the right rank to get it to work. That is hilarious

[06:18:30] I wonder if that's the problem with the

[06:18:34] Spells to overpower. Oh

[06:18:37] My gosh, it might be

[06:18:39] Might have been the wrong rank. Oh

[06:18:44] That was the problem

[06:18:49] That's so silly

[06:18:52] Visibility hidden? Showtime or showtip so passly.

[06:19:00] I want it hidden unless it procs.

[06:19:05] It's not an option.

[06:19:11] Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Bro, the cooldown manager is a disaster.

[06:19:17] Oh my god, no support for on proc. Is it at the whole point?

[06:19:25] Is it the whole point to like

[06:19:27] Have it not shown until it procs. Am I crazy here?

[06:19:38] Yeah, I'm just gonna disable it just use the default one

[06:19:43] Axe of agility two hands seven point now

[06:19:47] that was 100% user error?

[06:20:06] No, I'm just like, there's no way to do it right now, though, like, I think what a lot

[06:20:10] of us want, you actually can't do and they'll have to change it and put it in.

[06:20:15] I don't think there's any way to change it.

[06:20:20] Add the correct buff.

[06:20:21] Add the correct one, two buffs and it will work.

[06:20:25] Alright, I'll try in a sec.

[06:20:28] But then I want my buff, like the Battleshot one here,

[06:20:31] but I want the Overpower one over here.

[06:20:37] Oh yeah, the guys, they don't have it for buffs.

[06:20:40] The Overpower proc is not on buffs right now.

[06:20:43] It doesn't exist yet.

[06:20:44] That's why we were on this.

[06:20:48] I think they will add it eventually, but yeah, it doesn't exist yet.

[06:20:53] Yeah, the CDM needs a lot of work.

[06:20:59] Oh yeah, overpower isn't a buff, it's just after it dodge, you're right.

[06:21:05] So maybe they won't be able to get it there.

[06:21:10] And what a disaster.

[06:21:11] Have you tried to tell me when I don't know it's great.

[06:21:17] That's what the CDM should be.

[06:21:19] Just like tell me when I'm feeling so strong after getting this mace.

[06:21:23] Oh my gosh.

[06:21:26] Hmm.

[06:21:28] It's a good protein shake.

[06:21:34] Wow.

[06:21:35] W Shannon.

[06:21:36] Geez.

[06:21:37] You touch the small white crystal and you can hear faint sounds on the wind.

[06:21:42] This is an audio recording of some sort on the Windlord.

[06:21:47] Who is Alakir the Windlord?

[06:21:48] The priests of the radical Alaketh would have us believe him to be the true ruler of Skywall,

[06:21:53] the realm we now call home.

[06:21:55] In their telling, we are but interlopers here, and one day Alakir shall appear before us

[06:22:00] to reckon with our trespass into his dominion within the elemental plane.

[06:22:04] Though such claims may at first seem the ravings of the misguided or the mad there may yet be some measure of truth in them

[06:22:11] When asked of Alakir's nature the wind spirits grow evasive and agitated indeed even the mere speaking of the so-called

[06:22:18] Windlord's name appears to cause them profuse unease. Oh, that's funny

[06:22:23] Speaking the Windlord's name Thunderfury Bloss played the Windseeker

[06:22:28] Whenever the truth may be our benefactors clearly have no wish to speak of Alakir

[06:22:32] Oh, maybe that's me. Okay. Maybe I made a false connection there and they're quick to dismiss all rumors of the windlords presence as idle fancy unworthy of serious heed

[06:22:40] They share us that we may not travel ourselves as such matters here safe upon our skyborne aisles all this offer

[06:22:46] Offer solemn comfort to many else raises troubling question. What precisely are the wind spirits concealing from us?

[06:22:51] I've laid the madsters of the high orders have grown increasingly wary of the wind spirits motives

[06:22:56] Insisting that all powers and perils native to this realm must be better understood

[06:22:59] He knew such dangerous life far from us now.

[06:23:02] Oh, come on!

[06:23:04] I'm trying to figure out the lore here, man!

[06:23:08] The Magisters maintain that such knowledge will better prepare us to face whatever may

[06:23:12] yet come.

[06:23:13] The Sky Sea are elders among the Wind Shapers by contrast, place implicit trust in the Wind

[06:23:18] Spirits and record any questioning of their designs as an affront to our benefactors.

[06:23:22] They hold that our patrons in Skywell have already sacrificed much to bring us here and

[06:23:26] sustain us.

[06:23:27] any further knowledge who's vital to our survival, and they would surely reveal it in

[06:23:31] two course. This difference in belief has given us rise to no small measure of tension

[06:23:35] between the two orders. Hmm. Interesting. Whatever the truth may be, it is plain that

[06:23:47] we are not alone in this realm and that our many mysteries yet may remain beyond our present

[06:23:51] understanding ah oh

[06:23:58] So that's some that's some cool lower drops there

[06:24:02] They have a disagreement of the meaning behind the of Alec here who he is

[06:24:11] Elementals why they're here sick

[06:24:21] How do you get the bronze color on the action bar is nothing. It's just default man. I'm using the default action bars

[06:24:33] Yeah, I feel so strong on my warrior right now, bro. I am blasting man

[06:24:42] Rage does not seem bad at all rage seems really good at level 12, but I think it might be an issue later

[06:24:51] And now that I'm level 12 and we have all this stuff we can go over here and check this out

[06:24:59] Hey gang, what up Willie? What'd it do?

[06:25:02] I'm going to try melee or M.M. Hunter.

[06:25:20] Probably not.

[06:25:21] Hunters look cool, but I have other classes on my priority list.

[06:25:25] If I do another class, I want to try Rogue or Priest.

[06:25:34] I wouldn't honestly, I wouldn't mind having a level 30 Mage, Rogue, Warrior, Rogue, and

[06:25:39] Mage, Rogue, Priest, and Warrior at 30.

[06:25:42] Oh, and Pally.

[06:26:00] You got some work to do?

[06:26:01] Yeah, but we have time.

[06:26:02] Like, realistically, I'm gonna be leveling every day.

[06:26:05] Of course, I wanna do some like,

[06:26:07] world pvp and some tools as well so that's part of it but a lot of what i

[06:26:11] want to do on the beta is literally just level a bunch of alts and see how they

[06:26:14] interact and

[06:26:15] and see how they feel and see how fun they are and

[06:26:18] see what rotations they press and their buttons and their talents and their

[06:26:21] yeah okay i thought it was gonna fall so like that's mainly what i want to do so

[06:26:25] yeah i'll probably level this guy i probably won't play this guy at level

[06:26:27] 20 much to be honest maybe a little bit i might hit some dungeons and stuff but

[06:26:32] like i don't plan to spend a ton of time at 20 on this guy

[06:26:37] They ruined warrior rage gen.

[06:26:52] I played warrior for 20 plus years and might have to re-roll.

[06:26:56] I think that's a little blown out of proportion.

[06:27:00] Right now at level 12, I would say there's essentially zero difference.

[06:27:07] I think it might be a concern later, right, especially once you get to level 20.

[06:27:14] But I think they might add a talent or buff certain talents to make it to where it becomes

[06:27:20] a non-issue.

[06:27:21] So I wouldn't really be concerned yet.

[06:27:36] If nothing changes till out of beta like at all, till 60 then I think it would be cause

[06:27:42] for alarm, but I wouldn't be concerned yet.

[06:27:45] Man, I'm hitting hard dude.

[06:27:50] I'm hitting real hard.

[06:28:14] Oh, yeah, they'll definitely do more changes. Yeah, there's no way they don't.

[06:28:20] I watched a warrior streamer solo dead mines and wailing caverns warriors fine

[06:28:27] just

[06:28:29] Just so you know that the conversation wasn't

[06:28:34] Strang it was the the guy was worried about rotation, I think

[06:28:38] I think there's a common misconception that if someone complains about their class, it's

[06:28:51] my class is weak.

[06:28:53] When oftentimes, like when Alanda was talking yesterday, he was more complaining that the

[06:29:01] rotation would be literally bloodthirst, whirlwind, AFK.

[06:29:06] whirlwind afk and like he was worried that even if you were number one on the meters because say bloodthirst and whirlwind just

[06:29:12] Top the meters anyway that it would just be boring to play

[06:29:15] I think that's what people like struggle to understand like same thing with mages like

[06:29:20] arcane mage

[06:29:22] Say your number one in the meters is arcane, but the only button you press is arcane blast like that's problematic

[06:29:27] Right, like it's it's boring. It's one button doesn't matter if your number one on the meter is like nerf it for all I care

[06:29:32] But like let's add a second or third button to press right? That's the conversation

[06:29:36] So when someone is complaining about warriors because there's only two buttons to press or whatever

[06:29:41] The answer can't then be oh, don't worry. You can still solo dead mines. It's like what that doesn't make any sense

[06:29:47] It's not even what we're talking about right so just to be fair to that guy like that's

[06:29:53] Completely different conversation

[06:30:06] And this zone looks so cool. I can't get over it. Oh my gosh

[06:30:11] So by far the coolest place in this new starting zone. I've been here twice now. Is this right here like this?

[06:30:17] cool, dude, I

[06:30:20] Like I like this area too

[06:30:23] The shrine of Akir, but like the ruins of Vanilla area is like

[06:30:36] Feels a lot less whimsical

[06:30:44] You can never find herbs you got to track them

[06:30:54] There's an herb right there silver leaf

[06:31:06] Please show your add-ons

[06:31:12] Better blizz plate frames and better blizz plates and details

[06:31:16] my

[06:31:18] The details just came out with a an update today. I

[06:31:24] Actually haven't tried it yet

[06:31:27] But I can't stand the

[06:31:31] The blizzard one that I feel like it's so hard to like just use

[06:31:39] So I use definitely like details. He feels also like threat on it and it's just easier to like navigate so

[06:31:46] Man warrior is so fun. Oh my gosh. I'm such a warrior Glacier dude. I think after playing

[06:32:04] mage like this is just so interactive. Details gives you Lua errors. I have bug sap, sack

[06:32:13] I can bug grab her, I don't even notice right now,

[06:32:15] but yeah, I'm sure every add-on right now is super

[06:32:20] buggy, a lot of errors.

[06:32:27] You're a warrior at heart?

[06:32:28] I mean, I'm a mage at heart.

[06:32:29] I've been playing mainly mage my whole life, but

[06:32:33] in my older age, I'm like,

[06:32:34] oh, warrior's actually kinda nice.

[06:32:43] Maybe you're doing Warrior Run, you Sunder instead of Heroic Strike.

[06:32:49] So normally in ERA, that's what you do, Sunder instead of Heroic Strike, but apparently

[06:32:54] in forever, you use Heroic Strike now instead of Sunder.

[06:33:05] Which is actually kind of cool, you know?

[06:33:07] There's so much about Classic WoW that's like been figured out.

[06:33:10] It's so cool that in this game, someone would be like,

[06:33:12] oh, well, this is what you do.

[06:33:13] It's like, well, yeah, no, not in this.

[06:33:22] Why?

[06:33:23] Because Alondo said so.

[06:33:24] Ha ha.

[06:33:26] I asked you guys a second ago,

[06:33:28] and apparently it's been mapped out a bit.

[06:33:29] And Thunder Armor, because of Rage being so low,

[06:33:32] is not really worth pressing as much as Heroic Strike

[06:33:35] like it is on Era, because of Rage normalization, I guess.

[06:33:40] They fix Sunder, read patch notes, they just fix the, uh, Threat Gen.

[06:33:47] Hi, hi, hello, hello, Raylon, thanks for the problem.

[06:34:00] Dude, this zone is so cool.

[06:34:21] I think one of the greatest additions to Forever would be Prox Voice Chat.

[06:34:24] What do you think?

[06:34:25] I mean, you can download add-ons for that already, but...

[06:34:32] Ah, okay. I don't want voice chat in a while. I'll just say it. I don't want it.

[06:34:37] I don't want some...like, maybe I have a different opinion, because I'm a streamer, too.

[06:34:42] I get immersed in this game.

[06:34:44] I'm like, immersed right now in the shadows of this...I'm questing, I'm in my zone.

[06:34:48] I don't want someone running by saying like,

[06:34:50] DADDY DADDY DADDY DADDY DADDY DADDY DADDY DADDY DADDY DADDY DADDY DADDY automatic

[06:34:54] And you know, it's gonna happen and it's just like I don't want that man. I would turn it off if they add boys

[06:34:58] I'll turn it off like actually they have boys I definitely turn it off I

[06:35:06] Like just

[06:35:07] putting it to my imagination and piping the people and talking through text

[06:35:13] I'm not a big like voice roleplayer though either. So

[06:35:16] Yeah, no, thanks

[06:35:20] Voice could be good for dungeons, they have voice in dungeons already, no one uses it.

[06:35:50] Wow every mob is dead around here gamers are gaming huh man this is like it

[06:36:07] really captures the RPG or the yeah I guess the RPG element of classic because

[06:36:14] I was here at level 10 and these mobs were like impossible for me to kill at

[06:36:19] level 10 remember I was trying to 1v1 him and I was like killing one at a time

[06:36:24] but I was at like 5% life and I had to eat after every mob and it was like

[06:36:28] really hard and then one hour later I come back at level 12 and I'm slapping

[06:36:33] it's just such a it's such a good feeling and like I'm not gonna lie I was

[06:36:37] really nervous it wouldn't keep that feeling in forever and we'd all just be

[06:36:42] back playing classic WoW because classic WoW does it so well but it does it does

[06:36:47] They did a good job there.

[06:36:48] Frenzy, thanks for the prime, man.

[06:36:50] What's the UI add-on?

[06:36:51] What's the UI add-ons are you was using?

[06:36:53] It looks really cool.

[06:36:55] All my add-ons are in Discord.

[06:36:56] The two that you're referring to are likely better

[06:36:58] Blizz plates and better Blizz frames.

[06:37:01] Actually, it's just really better Blizz frames.

[06:37:03] It's probably the one add-on makes this back

[06:37:08] into the old unit frame, except it adds a new bronze tint.

[06:37:13] And then the mini map is the old mini map

[06:37:14] with a new bronze tint.

[06:37:17] So it's like a little mix of old and new which is cool.

[06:37:36] Sorry Keto, thanks for the prime.

[06:37:50] Tomahawk of magic crazy

[06:37:52] Man, warriors are so fun!

[06:38:17] I'm so torn, bro!

[06:38:19] Part of me just wants to level a warrior first.

[06:38:22] Like, oh, it kills me to say.

[06:38:25] I just like, it's part of me wants to level a warrior

[06:38:29] before my mage.

[06:38:30] I just, I literally have more fun leveling

[06:38:33] on a warrior than I do a mage.

[06:38:34] Hands down easily.

[06:38:36] But I like mages a lot at like PvP and dueling

[06:38:42] and world PvP and like just running around the world

[06:38:45] like slow falling and porting and blinking

[06:38:47] and like fighting, you know, I guess other players.

[06:38:53] Oh!

[06:38:55] But man, Warrior's so much more fun for like questing.

[06:38:59] As a mage, it's just like,

[06:39:01] Frostbolt, Frostbolt, Frostbolt, like charge.

[06:39:03] You have charge, rend, blood rage, heroic strike.

[06:39:07] And like, keep in mind,

[06:39:08] this is the most boring Warrior is, is right now.

[06:39:11] Warrior's way more fun once you get all your other stuff.

[06:39:14] This is like the boring Warrior, you know?

[06:39:17] Fireblast? You don't really want to Fireblast on a mage because it makes you go out of mana.

[06:39:25] So you, it's kind of like, like on a warrior, you're not just going to like thunder clap on every mob.

[06:39:30] It's kind of like that. It would kind of be like, trying to think. Yeah, that might be like a decent example.

[06:39:36] Maybe Boonkin just in the sense that it's new, like, you can actually play a Moonkin

[06:39:55] now.

[06:39:56] I don't know.

[06:39:57] I haven't tried Rogue yet though.

[06:40:01] Charge is just a fun button.

[06:40:02] Yeah, I think that's kind of what it comes down to.

[06:40:05] The fact that you can press charge, like, generate rage, stun the target, get in there quick,

[06:40:12] it's just so fun to level a warrior, man.

[06:40:18] There's no mana either, yeah, I can just go for like hours without like sitting down

[06:40:21] and drinking.

[06:40:23] Oh, level 13, baby.

[06:40:27] Alright, so...

[06:40:30] So I am using Heroic Strike a lot more, but I think that's going to change.

[06:40:35] Do you guys think 2 points in Parry or 2 points in Heroic Strike?

[06:40:38] It's probably Parry, right?

[06:40:41] Parry, Parry, Parry.

[06:40:45] Yeah, I think I like that too.

[06:40:46] Okay, we'll do Parry, and then we'll probably go Tack Mask and Anger Management, or I could

[06:40:52] go Charge and Improved Overpower.

[06:40:55] And I probably want anger management at 20, right, so.

[06:41:12] Not gonna lie, I was just watching Esfand and Westfall came here and I thought you were

[06:41:15] playing Retail.

[06:41:16] I mean, I love how this zone looks.

[06:41:20] Alright, I'm not gonna hate on how this zone looks.

[06:41:22] It is.

[06:41:23] It definitely is.

[06:41:24] It's more modern, but it is it is more modern to like it. They just made it now. I don't know. I I think this look this looks sick

[06:41:38] This zone is great, but I didn't didn't love the ending yo no spoilers man, I still haven't seen it

[06:41:44] I'm gonna check out the ending here in a sec. Oh

[06:41:49] Wow that mace is actually an upgrade for my shield

[06:41:54] I'm going to try a couple mobs where I'm doing the old school like just spam overpower

[06:42:23] thing. See how it feels. Although I definitely should have ran once since I'm... Everyone

[06:42:39] Give us our crap for not reading YouTube chat. Yeah, give them crap Sean

[06:42:54] How do humans and night elves gonna get here for China level you can't I don't wait you can't right?

[06:42:59] I would assume you can't get here

[06:43:01] Can you get like summoned here by a log or something and I can even be a lock. Oh

[06:43:05] Oh, you can't oh, you can take a boat. Oh, I actually didn't know that I guess I spoilers

[06:43:13] This will figure that out soon

[06:43:17] You saw a torrent really that's kind of funny I

[06:43:25] Mean honestly the OG just spamming thunder armor seems to work pretty well, too

[06:44:05] I was very critical with them in our like private channels play at I don't think the podcast was a place in time or place

[06:44:18] You know cars. Thanks for the prime man

[06:44:35] Have you heard about the latest survey? Yeah, I thought it was fake and then I guess it's not

[06:44:49] Can you put me in timeout please brah

[06:45:05] You and the other Josh were way more critical than I thought they would ever allow in a

[06:45:10] wild podcast.

[06:45:12] Cool.

[06:45:31] What happened to the cool sword?

[06:45:32] I got a cool Maze instead.

[06:45:48] Man, this is so cozy.

[06:45:50] I

[06:45:59] Nice

[06:46:20] I miss last monk true we're gonna find the podcast it's on the official wow channel

[06:46:50] Prease Mace of Fire Protection.

[06:47:04] You can actually do a new Last Monk challenge now with the staff only warrior.

[06:47:27] Yeah I probably will go crazy on the challenges bro once a hardcore comes out.

[06:47:33] Feel like there's a

[06:47:37] Lot of a lot of cool stuff we can do now the no pet hunter is actually like a thing now, which is kind of cool

[06:47:48] Every class is different I need to redo all of them now

[06:47:51] Have I warmed towards Sky Elves so far?

[06:48:02] I don't mind it as much as some other people for sure.

[06:48:06] I mind the UI more than the Sky Elves, Skyborn probably, but after playing it I'm having

[06:48:14] fun.

[06:48:15] The assets for some of the mobs and some of the weapons and like stuff is like my only critique really, but the actual quests are cool.

[06:48:26] Some of the zones are really cool.

[06:48:31] I think these areas are really cool.

[06:48:33] Not too much to complain about.

[06:48:35] I think the SD models on the Skyborne would be nice, and then fixing like the Druid forms

[06:48:44] would be nice.

[06:48:45] Those are probably like my two biggest critiques

[06:49:15] Okay, so we need two more Coltas here.

[06:49:19] Man, we've been doing this quest for a while, but I'm not even mad because it's just so

[06:49:21] cozy.

[06:49:23] I think the zone, the race, the quest still feel grounded, the classic era.

[06:49:31] The zone, like the environments, yes for the most part.

[06:49:36] The quest, yes for the most part.

[06:49:38] race I would like an SD toggle and some of the art assets I would like redone like I

[06:49:46] already mentioned but so like it depends specifically which parts I'd say like overall

[06:49:55] it's like 80% there as you know it's yeah can you even really tell they aren't SD

[06:50:02] Honestly, so there's some races that you can really tell and there's some that you can't

[06:50:08] tell as much.

[06:50:09] Blood Elves are one of the ones that the HD model doesn't bother me as much.

[06:50:14] Gnomes, I hate the HD model, humans, I hate the HD model.

[06:50:19] Elves, it actually looks pretty similar, I have to say.

[06:50:23] As somebody who loves the SD ones, it looks pretty similar.

[06:50:27] So it actually doesn't bother me all too much, but it's more of the philosophy behind it,

[06:50:31] I think, for me.

[06:50:33] It's like, philosophically, I want the toggle there

[06:50:36] because the toggle should be there, kind of a thing.

[06:50:39] You know what I mean?

[06:50:42] Yeah, the Torren HD.

[06:50:45] Very rough.

[06:50:58] In the grand scheme of thing, it's a small fish.

[06:51:00] I agree. Yep. I agree.

[06:51:04] Now, like I kept saying a few days ago, if these are the conversations that are being had,

[06:51:10] this is a pretty darn big W from Blizzard, right?

[06:51:13] If we even have the time to have conversations over things like this, it's like, alright. Nice.

[06:51:30] Okay, um, we did that quest.

[06:51:49] Hey Alex!

[06:51:55] 29 years old since I was a broke child back in the 2000s

[06:52:00] Welcome back

[06:52:01] Got me and my friends playing WoW and now we are totally addicted to WoW forever and see also

[06:52:07] Thanks for the glow

[06:52:08] Yo, welcome back. Thanks for the big support man and enjoy. That's what's up

[06:52:14] Male feats small upgrade here

[06:52:19] Wow

[06:52:25] for real what's going on with mage I've always played mage for they're both

[06:52:32] nerfed well we'll see man I hope we get some changes we'll see what happens

[06:52:43] forever it's been a big WO for all even retail and he's got worried do we have

[06:52:47] any like true retail and he's in the chat that are like that like never play

[06:52:52] Classic wow you actually don't even like classic wow, but you see this and you're like oh crap. This is like I've got to play this

[06:52:59] This looks awesome

[06:53:01] Retail forever. Yeah me me me okay, so I'm curious from your guys's circles like your friend groups and stuff like that

[06:53:09] What's the conversation like from a retail Andy perspective?

[06:53:12] Say you're like a mythic pluser and like you you're really like you don't play classic at all and your friend group

[06:53:18] It what's the conversation like are you guys like?

[06:53:21] Like, they're all quitting for this, really?

[06:53:24] Cause I know like TBC for example,

[06:53:25] like everyone playing TBC is like,

[06:53:27] a lot of people are quitting for this.

[06:53:29] Is retail feeling similar?

[06:53:35] Dude, I don't even have inventory room for this,

[06:53:37] but yo, thank you.

[06:53:40] I wonder if it'll, like,

[06:53:41] cause retail does have different offerings, right?

[06:53:43] Like this doesn't have arena.

[06:53:45] This doesn't have Mythic Plus.

[06:53:46] This doesn't have like crazy hard rating.

[06:53:49] So there's some things like if you like those things

[06:53:52] and it's like, well, you're not gonna get this,

[06:53:53] you're not gonna get those in this, right?

[06:53:55] But I wonder if it'll like temporarily

[06:54:01] severely cripple retail

[06:54:04] and then later retail will recover just fine

[06:54:07] because it has different stuff, right?

[06:54:08] It's not like it's a one-to-one competition

[06:54:10] with retail at all.

[06:54:19] Okay, so what's in here?

[06:54:24] So we're healing Druids, find this guy, and then injured Druids, healed, you just click

[06:54:33] on them.

[06:54:34] Okay, that's easy enough.

[06:54:36] Nice.

[06:54:37] Yeah, these models are definitely a little modern looking, but not too bad actually.

[06:54:44] Like the muted colors doesn't make them look as bad in here.

[06:54:53] Me and my friends are quitting retail for it.

[06:54:56] I think retail long term is going to do just fine, but I think short term a lot of people

[06:55:00] might try this.

[06:55:02] But I think people will find like in the long term, this definitely doesn't replace retail.

[06:55:06] It definitely more goes alongside it.

[06:55:15] Naa Retail's Dead Forever, what?

[06:55:19] Is there going to be a dual tourney, yeah.

[06:55:26] Uh, we have to feel four more interdruids, maybe this way.

[06:55:39] It's gonna be like RuneScape and RS3.

[06:55:41] I wonder if that's the case.

[06:55:46] This bow looks a little modern too, maybe not too bad, but.

[06:55:50] I wonder if that'll be the case if, uh, no, I don't think so.

[06:55:56] I don't think so.

[06:56:02] I think there's different games, man.

[06:56:05] This quest is bugged.

[06:56:06] You may have to do it again.

[06:56:11] No, I should be able to finish.

[06:56:13] I just have to get over there.

[06:56:17] I just need two more and I can click both of those.

[06:56:26] Yeah, should be good.

[06:56:44] Retails and item collection sim.

[06:56:46] It's an item collection simulator and a mythic plus simulator and an arena simulator and

[06:56:52] a raid simulator.

[06:56:55] There's probably the biggest four, and like Transmod goes into item collection, you know?

[06:57:01] And all built into a shell of like an MMO, that like isn't really an MMO anymore, it's

[06:57:08] more of a shell of those big four things.

[06:57:10] Mythic Plus Simulator, Arena Simulator, Raid Simulator, and Collection Simulator.

[06:57:16] Yeah, and I guess housing kind of like brings that all together, because you could put it

[06:57:21] in the house which is pretty cool to be honest it's just it's just like so

[06:57:27] different than what we grew up on you know like I said I don't hate retail

[06:57:33] it's gonna be hard for you to find a clip of me just saying like retail sucks

[06:57:37] but it's I would say it's maybe not my preference most of the time but I think

[06:57:42] it's cool for what it what it does

[06:57:45] Clipped it, got it.

[06:57:51] Banu-Ala.

[06:57:53] Banu-Ala!

[06:57:59] Wow, that's a lot of words.

[06:58:01] Until we meet again.

[06:58:03] Okay, so we have two more quests up here.

[06:58:05] We have three more turn-ins in the back.

[06:58:07] I'm level 13 and a half.

[06:58:09] We're locked in and dialed.

[06:58:11] Oh my gosh.

[06:58:15] Can you read the four or five lore readings in that cave? Not in that cave. I read a lore reading in the other cave, though.

[06:58:23] I love the game when they change the models.

[06:58:26] That's the muddle hog?

[06:58:31] Based on their very conservative changes to this patch, I'm worried we're already seeing the mostly final version of Class Balance thoughts.

[06:58:36] I wouldn't be worried in the sense that like, we will probably get a few more patch notes before the end of the beta,

[06:58:43] But the reason I wouldn't be worried isn't that the reason I wouldn't be worried is

[06:58:48] We are going to continue to get changes on this version of the game

[06:58:53] forever

[06:58:54] So even if the game launches and you're not in your class is OP it might get nerfed

[06:59:01] Eventually probably and if your class sucks, it'll probably get buffed at some point

[06:59:07] So you pick a class not based on strength you pick a class based on whether you like it or not

[06:59:11] whether you think the rotations are fun and compelling if you if you like that

[06:59:17] eventually your class will probably do pretty well if you pick if you fought

[06:59:20] them re-roll in this game I think it's a mistake so yeah maybe maybe they don't

[06:59:26] launch with exactly what with what you want but I think overall it'll be

[06:59:31] fine yeah we got some gifted subs from kydex 10 gifted subs from kydex thanks

[06:59:37] bro and minecraft doing three extras w

[06:59:44] He's wind hollow slap

[06:59:54] Whatever rolling apart as soon as they drop that we'll see we'll see

[07:00:07] I should have deleted those, to be honest.

[07:00:12] This may be a update, but I would love if they could bring Guild Halls to forever where the Guild could display trophies from kills and your stepchamps.

[07:00:20] Make a portal like the old PvP Hall to enter and people could browse Guild Halls.

[07:00:29] I don't know, features like that kind of freak me out a little bit, but...

[07:00:32] I mean in theory it sounds fun, but I really just love the idea of people AFK'ing in a city and bringing the cities to life

[07:00:40] and anything that takes away from that freaks me out.

[07:00:52] Yeah, Turk, thanks for the five. Blizzard put out a tweet saying they reviewed the names from multiple people and the only people that were banned.

[07:01:00] I saw the same tweet as you man. I don't know. Maybe there were some mistakes but

[07:01:11] sounds like they have the entire log of logs to prove it.

[07:01:19] Good thing we have a lay line here because these things crank.

[07:01:27] Hey guys, how often do you see lay lines out in Azeroth?

[07:01:33] If you're questing in Westfall, can you keep up lay lines all the time or not really?

[07:01:40] often, often, few. I'm just trying to think how much value. It was so hard for me to find

[07:02:07] and Westfall I needed them marked on the map badly.

[07:02:11] Cause like on this quest here, having energized is like making the world of difference for my leveling speed.

[07:02:17] Like, I'm just permanently full HP because of energized.

[07:02:20] But if I didn't have this Ley line, this area would be tough.

[07:02:24] So if I can keep up my Ley line, this is great.

[07:02:28] An add-on that shows them would be great.

[07:02:38] Someone I'm sure will make that.

[07:02:40] I'm sure.

[07:02:43] It'll probably be added in Litrix Plus or Litrix Maps.

[07:02:54] I think they do change, like, move around, but I think there's some that are static.

[07:03:01] From what I can tell, like, there was some that just were in the city.

[07:03:05] Wow, this thing is hurting me.

[07:03:14] You can render ghosts weird.

[07:03:15] I was thinking the same thing, but I wasn't questioning it because it was doing damage.

[07:03:21] So I think of Rage Normalization.

[07:03:25] So far I haven't noticed as a level 13 warrior, it would more be a problem later in the game

[07:03:30] once you get a lot of gear.

[07:03:32] So it is a bit concerning later.

[07:03:34] So I think I would like to see warriors have some talents buffed that give you rage on

[07:03:39] attack so you can actually hit somewhat of a rotation at max level.

[07:03:44] So it might mean like Boxed to Unbridled Wrath or a new talent that gives like a rend more

[07:03:48] rage gen or something or like you like warriors might need something to compensate but I think

[07:03:54] removing basically infinite scaling is probably a good idea for like a game that's horizontally

[07:04:01] progressing so I guess very similar to Alondo's take which Alondo definitely knows a lot more

[07:04:11] more than I do about Warriors. I'm going to check his video out.

[07:04:41] I'm trying to figure out where this heirloom is

[07:04:46] If you're trying to if you're traveling to Banna fell I have a selfish request my love or son

[07:04:50] I believe it is no longer part of this world

[07:04:53] He had tried to go back and get supplies even though I begged for him to say it's been over a week

[07:04:56] I ain't a fear the worst

[07:05:00] Maybe just in the back um

[07:05:02] I really don't like how

[07:05:05] To read a quest I have to bring up my map. It's not that big of a deal

[07:05:09] But like if I click on this quest, I can't just go to the I just want to read it. I mean I have my map too

[07:05:18] But

[07:05:20] You know, I guess most of the time it's not a big deal, but here it's just like

[07:05:25] It's kind of like with my talents. I actually have the same critique with my talents sometimes

[07:05:29] I like the small talent tree on the left

[07:05:32] So when I when I'm like running and leveling I could just take a look at my talents and like read them and mouse over them

[07:05:37] while I'm like killing a mob and like sometimes when I'm killing a mob I want to like read a quest

[07:05:42] but it covers your whole screen so you can't actually like multitask like kill a mob while

[07:05:47] reading a quest is not possible anymore or like killing a mob while reading your talents it just

[07:05:52] covers the whole screen there's an add-on for that yeah sure I mean I know I can get an add-on

[07:05:58] but that's not the conversation the conversation is like baseline kind of sucks that covers the

[07:06:04] the whole screen that's good feedback yeah like I'm talking about the peer I'm

[07:06:10] not even talking aesthetically I'm talking pure utility even if it had the

[07:06:13] new aesthetic having it like minimize to the left and it collapses the new

[07:06:20] aesthetic aside just collapsing to the left right or like with my quest log

[07:06:28] same thing I wish I could hide the map and just put the quest log like here

[07:06:34] Um, let's see if we can find this dude.

[07:06:42] You literally can.

[07:06:43] Uh, how?

[07:06:44] Um, I'm, I'm struggling to find out how.

[07:06:46] Oh, here's the guy.

[07:06:48] Rassan Nimbuswalker.

[07:06:50] Rassan's heirloom.

[07:06:54] Right click quest on right.

[07:07:00] Open quest details.

[07:07:01] Oh!

[07:07:02] There we go!

[07:07:03] Yeah!

[07:07:04] when I click my quest log, I want this.

[07:07:06] Oh, that's great.

[07:07:08] That's what I want.

[07:07:09] But when I click on it, it's this.

[07:07:11] I have to like right click quest details.

[07:07:13] Oh, that's awesome.

[07:07:15] That's what I want by default though,

[07:07:16] when I click on my quest.

[07:07:17] That's fantastic.

[07:07:20] How did you get that?

[07:07:21] So you click on the quest, right click, open quest details.

[07:07:24] So if you press L for quest log, it doesn't bring that up.

[07:07:28] When you click on it, it doesn't bring that up.

[07:07:30] If you right click, the only way to do that is clicking here, right click, details.

[07:07:37] That's great.

[07:07:38] That's great.

[07:07:42] This is what I want.

[07:07:44] Can you keep on that?

[07:07:46] I would assume no.

[07:07:48] Can you keep on that?

[07:07:50] That's another question.

[07:07:51] Maybe you guys know.

[07:07:52] I would assume no.

[07:07:53] Because it's only for one quest.

[07:07:54] It doesn't give you like a whole log.

[07:08:01] Inventory is full.

[07:08:07] Just left like the quest and the quest tracker?

[07:08:09] Yeah, that's what brings you up to the big one.

[07:08:14] I

[07:08:27] We're back home safely

[07:08:44] Did you check out the easter egg on Sephirocile?

[07:08:48] No, what's that?

[07:08:51] Where's that?

[07:09:04] This alliance got a 40% move speed buff from the Natoes, yeah.

[07:09:13] behind the waterfall at the top, like way up here.

[07:09:22] Alright, turn in time, boys. Turn in time.

[07:09:28] No in town. Oh, there's an easter egg in town?

[07:09:30] Like, is it not that waterfall, right?

[07:09:38] Where you're at in town?

[07:09:40] Is it this?

[07:09:42] Let me see if I can find it.

[07:09:45] Is it this one?

[07:09:49] Like where these guys are at?

[07:09:55] Oh, okay.

[07:10:03] It's over here.

[07:10:06] Okay.

[07:10:08] Okay, yeah, I'll check it out. I'll check it out before I leave

[07:10:11] Let me turn in some quest real quick. Yeah, so like the quest log over here is what I want

[07:10:15] I wonder if we could

[07:10:20] Include that as feedback as an option. I wonder how hard that is I

[07:10:24] Love like when you're accepting quests and you do all the quests. It's great

[07:10:27] But when you click the log it brings up the map be super nice to have the quest log back

[07:10:38] Classic UI forever also works, true, true, true, there is that.

[07:10:59] If you left click the class objective open map plus logger just open log.

[07:11:06] Are you saying that's the option they should add or are you saying they already have that?

[07:11:10] Oh, you're saying it should be a toggle.

[07:11:14] Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[07:11:15] Exactly.

[07:11:16] It should be an option.

[07:11:17] Do you want the map and the log or just the log?

[07:11:20] Exactly.

[07:11:21] Okay, what about that?

[07:11:26] Learn what you can from the crystal.

[07:11:32] Uh, where's the crystal under here?

[07:11:38] We just love those toggles.

[07:11:40] I mean toggles are a pretty good answer to a lot of things, especially in a game like

[07:11:44] this where you can't make everyone happy.

[07:11:46] The only way to do it is to add both options.

[07:12:11] macro to offer overpower it puts me in battle stance I hit it what about this

[07:12:25] crystal ah wait yes this crystal Belinea is this a recall crystal used to record

[07:12:32] an important moment no doubt this is surely what the turncoat hope to offer us

[07:12:38] This is an exchange for our protection.

[07:12:40] The Recall Crystal is badly damaged though.

[07:12:43] The recording is likely to be incomplete,

[07:12:44] so we must listen carefully.

[07:12:46] Okay, I'm ready to listen.

[07:12:48] Activate it, Polenia.

[07:12:49] We need to learn as much as we can.

[07:12:57] Do not delay.

[07:12:58] Muster our forces, march immediately.

[07:13:00] The pylons are key and the wards come down.

[07:13:02] This is quickly, with our forces, we'll be exposed.

[07:13:05] My ritual must not...

[07:13:08] I alone am this task the windlord will our voices he will come we must not fail

[07:13:16] Okay

[07:13:22] Speak with Valenia stormfist and Valinar and follow her instructions

[07:13:29] What are the next steps

[07:13:33] Recruit the wind shapers

[07:13:35] Okay. Let's do it. Woohoo!

[07:13:57] Bum bum bum bum bum.

[07:14:01] 14 boys 14 so I'm five hours 32 minutes at level 14

[07:14:13] We'll take that whoops, I actually want one blacksmith hammer

[07:14:18] We'll take that that's not too bad. We'll finish up this desperate times quest. We're gonna the point of Perry

[07:14:25] My warrior trainers around here somewhere. I'm like definitely confused on the starting area man

[07:14:31] Oh my gosh, I am like, super lost.

[07:14:35] I think it's

[07:14:38] up here to the left somewhere.

[07:14:40] I'll do this last quest,

[07:14:41] and then I also wanna check out that easter egg

[07:14:43] before I go.

[07:14:48] My good, I'll be high, quality.

[07:14:54] I'm at 12 hours at level 15.

[07:14:57] Dude, we're cruising on this starting zone.

[07:14:59] Oh, wow.

[07:15:00] Oh, there's a bunch of like boats that you can take.

[07:15:03] Cool.

[07:15:18] Recruit the wind shapers, okay, this way.

[07:15:24] So we need our warrior training,

[07:15:25] and since I'm over here,

[07:15:26] I'll probably check out the Easter egg anyway.

[07:15:30] wind shapers

[07:15:34] We need your help

[07:15:39] recruit the high order all right one sec. I'll go over there in a minute check over check over here for an easter egg

[07:15:53] The music is nice I like it

[07:16:00] Review of the zone. I'll give you an official review in a second, but that's about what you would expect

[07:16:06] There's some mobs that don't fit super well, but I enjoyed it

[07:16:13] Did you know they were gonna call it forever before blizzcon I did not I I was a bit shocked they went with forever

[07:16:25] But

[07:16:31] It's just a name

[07:16:42] Okay, so I think it's this waterfall

[07:16:48] Is this the right waterfall think it is there's a lot of people over here

[07:16:52] My FPS is 220 now. They definitely fixed it. Oh, there's a chest in here. Is that the Easter egg?

[07:17:04] Oh, it's at the top? Okay. There's a chest and a copper vein under. So hey, I'll take the loot

[07:17:09] real quick. Give me a sec, boys. Let me get this copper. Let me get the chest. Get some final loot.

[07:17:22] Breath bar. Oh, it's the new breath bar. Yep, might need an add-on for that. Make up the old one.

[07:17:36] Are you in agreement with Alondo with the state of warriors? Yeah, pretty much. Alondo's take was

[07:17:40] really balanced. If you watch the whole video, like, he's actually says like, yeah, they're too

[07:17:45] strong, they need a nerf, but this, if you do this, they're only gonna be like, they're gonna be like

[07:17:49] Like an AFK class, you don't have enough rage gen,

[07:17:52] so sometimes an extra rage gen would help offset

[07:17:55] the rage normalization.

[07:17:56] Like, Alanda was for rage normalization.

[07:18:05] Okay, so you guys are telling me that

[07:18:07] the Easter egg is a bunch of frogs.

[07:18:11] Musical gust jumper.

[07:18:14] I just killed a frog a second ago.

[07:18:16] Sorry about that.

[07:18:17] Sing with them?

[07:18:24] Oh, it's Zelda.

[07:18:28] Oh, I actually, yeah, I've played Zelda, but it's been a long time. I'm not like a Zelda super fan by any means.

[07:18:35] Um, awkward.

[07:18:41] They're jumping in song.

[07:18:47] And now they're all gone.

[07:18:54] And then you can click on this one.

[07:18:57] And then you get a companion frog.

[07:19:02] Wait, where is it?

[07:19:04] Oh, there's pet journals now.

[07:19:06] Did I know that?

[07:19:07] I think I might have known that.

[07:19:10] Account collections.

[07:19:11] Oh, there's Transmog too.

[07:19:13] You know, it's fine.

[07:19:14] I haven't even opened this tab at all yet.

[07:19:16] Yeah, my eyes. Okay, we just won't look at it pets. I actually do like that

[07:19:21] There's a pet journal because I don't like I actually don't like pets and wow it all but

[07:19:27] Having him in your bags is annoying. Hopefully this works with mounds too. I would assume it would

[07:19:33] So you get a little musical cuss jumper nice

[07:19:38] That's pretty rad

[07:19:40] Well, the coordinates are 50 70 ish if you guys want to grab the little little frog

[07:19:45] What what FPS do I have like around 200 right now?

[07:20:02] There is a mountain journal, so I think so yeah mountain journal would be nice

[07:20:06] How do you move FPS? It's a setting in better blizz frames. That's when rest are true and

[07:20:21] not having tree form. They might not need it for classic wow. It's tough man. The more

[07:20:27] you modernize classes and just give them what they have from other expansions, it's like

[07:20:32] it puts the classes in a really weird state if you just keep giving them more and more

[07:20:35] modern stuff. I've actually been going through that with Mage myself because I was thinking

[07:20:42] like the mages need deep freeze and the obvious answer is no, but then the mages need icy

[07:20:46] veins. It's like well, icy veins might fit, but then the mages need like, as you know,

[07:20:52] because I was asking what a mages need. And I think the answer is like, you kind of just,

[07:20:57] you can leave a lot of stuff alone. You don't want to modernize too much, you know? Especially

[07:21:04] for a class like mage or a class like warrior that already has so much in vanilla wow.

[07:21:08] Of course there's places to improve, but when you look at something like tree form,

[07:21:13] you look at a road like cloak of shadows or shadow stuff, it just becomes this thing

[07:21:16] where if you give one class one tool, then every class is going to want similar strength

[07:21:24] tools and all of a sudden you just can't stop it, you know, so it's like I think being very

[07:21:28] careful with what you add is actually pretty important.

[07:21:31] giving Paladin's taunt is a no-brainer, right? They needed it. Warriors already have taunt,

[07:21:36] Druids already have taunt. Giving Paladin's tanks a taunt is like, that's fine. You're bringing up

[07:21:40] the things that are underperforming and lying to the things that are already performing,

[07:21:44] but I think like, once you go kind of like, like way past that, it becomes

[07:21:50] a slippery slope, despite it being a fallacy.

[07:21:57] Give Shaman's taunt, please. We'll see if they eventually go with like a tank Shaman.

[07:22:01] As of right now, it's like, it looks like it's not officially a thing, but if they go with a

[07:22:06] tank shaman, then yeah, they should definitely get a taunt, absolutely.

[07:22:14] Okay, desperate times. So, we speak with Valenia, follow her instructions. I would assume this

[07:22:20] would be the final quest of Zephyrus Isle to kind of take me out of here up on that boat thing.

[07:22:31] There's like two more parts still.

[07:22:37] Really?

[07:22:38] Wow, okay.

[07:22:39] So this thing just keeps going.

[07:22:40] I keep thinking I'm like done.

[07:22:41] I honestly envisioned Zephyrus Isle to be more like...

[07:22:50] I mean, Teldrassil is one to ten, it says.

[07:22:57] Teldrassil is one to ten.

[07:23:00] And Zephyrus Isle is longer than Teldrassil.

[07:23:02] I was thinking like Zephyrus Isle would be closer to like three hours, but it's definitely

[07:23:08] much longer.

[07:23:09] Teldrassil is more like 1 to 12, but this is like more like 1 to 14 or 1 to 15.

[07:23:25] This definitely is like a little longer than I thought.

[07:23:26] I don't know why I was thinking Zephyrus Isles would take about 3 hours.

[07:23:32] I was not expecting it to take you to 14 after closer to 6 hours.

[07:23:39] It's like twice as much content as I thought it was.

[07:23:48] My current slash plate is 5 hours 42 minutes.

[07:23:57] I'm using Bagonator for the bags.

[07:23:59] Completely unnecessary.

[07:24:00] I'm just using it because I like to move my bags.

[07:24:10] I've been testing speedruns, strats in here.

[07:24:11] My best time for full zone completion is 4 hours 50 minutes.

[07:24:15] Oh, that's what's up?

[07:24:27] Prepare for battle!

[07:24:29] So we slay seven Alaketh Guardians,

[07:24:31] Spirit Callers, and Blade Masters.

[07:24:36] Oh, they're up here.

[07:24:37] Okay, so we're gonna double back.

[07:24:41] You can move your bags with edit mode?

[07:24:42] I don't think you can.

[07:24:44] They're not in edit mode.

[07:24:45] As of yesterday, unless they added them like today.

[07:24:54] You can use blizzard, blitz move. I actually like baginator too because you can see your bank.

[07:25:08] I even have giel.

[07:25:15] day one I could move back to that mode I think you're mistaken because I tried for a long

[07:25:26] time and we came to the conclusion with the chat that it was impossible well you can't

[07:25:36] now yeah I can I you can't yeah I mean I can I can try right now again here let's

[07:25:47] turn off baginator and see I can't I can't I can't I can you know let's try again

[07:25:54] so they're right here oh you can just move them wait is that an add-on doing

[07:25:59] that but you just move them that must be an add-on that's new because I definitely

[07:26:08] couldn't move it the other day oh it's litrix or something oh it's frame

[07:26:12] unlocker hold on yeah it's frame unlocker you're right okay let me try again

[07:26:19] okay so you can't okay so you can't move it so you can't actually move it and then

[07:26:23] when you go to edit mode there's no bag option you can't open the bags either you

[07:26:28] You can't click on them or hit your key vine.

[07:26:30] You can't open the bags and you can't move them and there's no option.

[07:26:33] So anyone that's moving the bags, I am 99% sure it's an add-on doing it for you.

[07:26:43] They're like, it's, it's, I don't think you can.

[07:26:47] I'm not using add-ons.

[07:26:48] Well, I mean, am I wrong?

[07:26:50] Show me on the screen.

[07:26:58] People are saying you can but like I don't bro how open the bag you can't you can't click on it. You can't open it. I

[07:27:12] Think you guys are wrong

[07:27:15] When you open the bags and you click at a mode they automatically close I think it's only possible with an add-on

[07:27:22] Shift click will move it. Oh really? Shift click. Nope. Control click. Alt click. No.

[07:27:32] Nothing. Anyway, that's why I use it. You have the patience of a God protect Zaryu at all costs.

[07:27:45] I don't know why I do stuff like that. I already knew you couldn't but yeah

[07:27:54] Not even in retail, can you move the bags? Yeah, so that's anyway, that's what we came to the conclusion of that's why I downloaded the add-on

[07:28:15] So I don't think they should bring in all those abilities over time.

[07:28:20] The solder rotations, I believe, is complexity that is too difficult for most classic players.

[07:28:30] The solder rotations for mage were like similar, I mean not as hard as retail, but like similar

[07:28:36] to like mop or something.

[07:28:40] They were a lot.

[07:28:42] I think for this project they want to go closer to classic era, not to sod.

[07:28:47] Sod was like, all I'll just say pretty complex for rotations.

[07:28:59] Sod rotation for mage was 10 bail fires and release spirit, true.

[07:29:07] I didn't play every class, in sod I actually only played mage, but the mage rotation was

[07:29:12] something along the lines of you use Scorch to keep up the Scorch keep off. You had Living

[07:29:20] Bomb so you kept up Living Bomb. You bail fired until 10 stacks or they change it to

[07:29:27] 5 at some point but 10 stacks and then but you didn't want the 10 stack to kill you so

[07:29:36] you'd stay at like nine and then you would use frost fire bolt if you weren't that ten

[07:29:43] stacks but you would then batch the the tenth ones to min max the damage and then you would

[07:29:51] also use fire blast on cooldown to keep up scorch keep up living bomb fire blast on cooldown

[07:29:57] Balefire with Pyroblast as a finisher and you didn't want to kill yourself with the 10-stack

[07:30:08] and Frostfire bolts if you didn't have the Croc.

[07:30:11] So it was like incredibly complex for Classic.

[07:30:15] I mean even in terms of retail, it was more complex than some retail expansions like some

[07:30:22] modern retail expansions which is crazy to say.

[07:30:24] It was... it was a lot.

[07:30:31] It was fun though. Hey man, I love sod. I was like the biggest sod enjoyer. Yeah, I loved it.

[07:30:35] But I'm just saying it's probably too complex for a project like this.

[07:30:39] You oversold that one? I also played sod and it wasn't that complex. Okay, if I was toxic,

[07:30:57] I would say link your logs, but I'm not toxic, so I won't say that.

[07:31:08] I'm just saying, because if you're 99 parsing out of mages and thought it was a lot, it was a lot.

[07:31:14] If you were just playing the game, fine, but if you're playing at max capacity, it was a lot.

[07:31:22] It was totally a lot.

[07:31:24] I talked to Savix, he played Rhett at a high level, and I asked him what he thought.

[07:31:30] He said the same thing, like the Rhett rotation, you know, it's still classic wow, it's not impossible, but it's not easy.

[07:31:36] You know it's not easy.

[07:31:53] Easy peasy! Thanks for the problem.

[07:32:06] Ooh, there's a leyline right there.

[07:32:18] That's not a staff, true.

[07:32:22] Can we get a Zara hair tutorial?

[07:32:27] Bro, I don't do anything.

[07:32:31] When I was younger, I used to put in like product and like try to like spike up my hair

[07:32:35] and stuff and now now that I'm 33 I take a shower and however it dries that's how I full send I

[07:32:41] Don't put anything in it. It's like I'm just gonna

[07:32:45] Take a shower put slick my hair back and after that she she's

[07:32:48] Level 14 took him five hours, but your mage is when you compared them at level 14 took eight hours apiece

[07:32:55] That seems well. Is the new era more streamlined?

[07:33:00] That should be good feedback. My mage though. I was lagging I think and like I was also going like crazy slow. I

[07:33:11] Think this guy I was not lagging. I didn't disconnect and I was going quicker

[07:33:14] I think I would have to retest 1 to 14 and as a no major without lag like bro

[07:33:20] I but that was my first character. I couldn't move for a while. You know what I mean? That was like day one

[07:33:40] Old sorry use of stylus hair, yeah

[07:33:44] Plus you can actually get tags now exactly. Have a good weekend. Yo, you too Nappy

[07:33:54] Have a great weekend man. How do you like warrior? I love warrior, bro

[07:33:59] It's taking everything I have right now to like not just made a warrior when the game comes out

[07:34:04] Because like I know I'm gonna like mage more for world PvP

[07:34:08] I know I'm gonna like mage more like in general like running around

[07:34:12] you know like dueling like mainly the PvP but like I know I'm gonna like warrior

[07:34:19] more for like questing you know so I'm gonna do both I'm gonna do both I I'll

[07:34:26] definitely do both like it I'll have an alt in this version of the game for

[07:34:30] sure I'll have my main mage for like most of the content but I'll have a

[07:34:37] warrior that I like Raid on and stuff although I don't think I would make a

[07:34:51] skyborne warrior again I don't like the racials enough Reed Leyline is pretty

[07:34:58] pretty good for it honestly but I still don't think I'd make a skyborne

[07:35:01] warrior I think if I actually don't know what I'm gonna I might do a human

[07:35:08] warrior on launch actually I don't really know what I'm gonna do this human

[07:35:13] racial is not as good I still like how humans look maybe I will do human anyway

[07:35:19] yeah warriors out there what race are you guys playing on launch I'm not gonna

[07:35:23] a gnome since my mage will be a gnome. I think it's something different. I'm gonna be Alliance

[07:35:32] though. A lot of people saying like Toren, Undead, Troll, Night Elf. I don't like being

[07:35:38] a Night Elf. Well, I'll probably just play Human. Is that boring? I'll probably play

[07:35:46] a no mage and a human warrior that's so I'm so boring man I'm so boring I just

[07:35:54] think it looks cool

[07:35:57] night elves look cool too

[07:36:16] No more meme races still plays warrior. I like how warriors look our humans look dude

[07:36:25] Remember the days when Zahru said I don't understand how people could play human warrior. I know look at me now look at me now

[07:36:35] Why not horde so often your alliance I like alliance better for classic man, I like the quest and stuff in the cities

[07:36:42] I'll probably have some horde tunes too, but we'll see.

[07:36:50] Dude, if I play this game as much as I think I'm going to play, which I think I will, I'm

[07:36:56] going to have a lot of characters, guys.

[07:36:59] Normally I never do alts, but because, you know, like in Season of Discovery, I just

[07:37:03] had my one on retail, I just had my one and on all these versions of the game, I always

[07:37:08] just do one.

[07:37:09] And this one, like, assuming the game doesn't suck and they don't like screw up, like, I'll probably have a lot of, a lot of characters, so, I'm stoked.

[07:37:23] Damalia, thanks so much for the 2 and 7, man.

[07:37:25] The inner sanctum.

[07:37:41] Speak with Valenia Stormfist inside the inner sanctum at the Shrine of Akir, okay.

[07:37:46] I think we might be getting to the end here.

[07:37:59] Oh, maybe she's up top.

[07:38:07] I want to see Zara Rogue.

[07:38:09] I will almost surely have a Rogue at some point.

[07:38:12] The thing is, it's going to take like a month to level.

[07:38:15] I might, yeah, we'll see, we'll see.

[07:38:17] I will probably, what I'll probably do

[07:38:19] is have a bunch of my characters on hardcore

[07:38:22] and then when I die, transfer them to normal.

[07:38:24] I'll probably level a lot of my tunes to hardcore

[07:38:27] because leveling is hardcore is fun

[07:38:29] and then I'll probably end up rating with them

[07:38:31] at max, transfer them to a normal realm.

[07:38:33] That's probably what I'll do.

[07:38:37] So like early on, I'll level a mage normally in play

[07:38:40] and then when they launch hardcore,

[07:38:42] assuming it's not super late,

[07:38:44] Then I would probably do like a hardcore warrior.

[07:38:47] And then if I eventually die, then I would then transfer him and play him on like a normal realm.

[07:38:55] Dan Shan, thanks for the tier one.

[07:38:57] I think leveling his hardcore just makes it so much more fun,

[07:39:00] since you're always out of that thread of dying, you know?

[07:39:02] I spam.

[07:39:03] Confront Lorthuna.

[07:39:05] Take the portal to the Spires overhead and join a Lodger and Evangale,

[07:39:10] and Dawnsinger in their confrontation with the High Priestess.

[07:39:12] Oh 10.2 dps two-handed sword she see by the way

[07:39:24] Oh my gosh, it's like straight up like cataclysm Alec here I

[07:39:32] Guess that's the the point

[07:39:42] This is above the new zone, I guess so, yeah.

[07:39:54] What dungeon is this?

[07:39:55] This looks like a dungeon from Kata, but...

[07:40:04] Pinnacle yeah, yeah, this looks like vortex pinnacle

[07:40:15] Adventurer the high order and wind shaper fighters just took the wind bridge to the other side the bridge is unstable and keeps sputtering out wait here until

[07:40:23] Wait here with me until it returns

[07:40:26] Whoa

[07:40:31] Hmm

[07:40:33] Alright, I almost just want to pause.

[07:40:37] Right now, before this point, it's felt very classic-like.

[07:40:43] I don't know if this little instance feels classic-like.

[07:40:50] It's cool.

[07:40:51] Don't get me wrong.

[07:40:52] It's cool.

[07:40:53] But this is the first part where like, like spinning over and like, it almost feels too-

[07:40:59] Like I'm a level 14, bro. I'm level 14, right?

[07:41:03] I should be like killing like an elite mob at 14 or a normal mob.

[07:41:10] Okay, confront.

[07:41:12] Lorthuna.

[07:41:15] Oh, did I go too soon?

[07:41:16] I'm on... maybe I went too soon.

[07:41:24] We were hoping for more reinforcements, but this will have to do. Let's push forward. Okay.

[07:41:29] I guess my former sister, how far you've fallen, keeping company with this Highwater

[07:41:53] Filth.

[07:41:54] But through and a stop this madness, you don't know what bringing down the wards protecting

[07:41:58] Zephyrus will do, you could do us all. Bring the wards down. The wards have been down for days, fools.

[07:42:04] No, I am merely lighting a beacon for the true servants of Alakir to follow. Ah, I'll make this

[07:42:09] easy for you, witch. Stop what you are doing now and I'll give you Death's Swift. This is your

[07:42:15] last and best offer you'll get from the High Order. Empty threats, Eladrin. Regardless of what

[07:42:21] happens to me now, my great work is done. Consider yourself lucky to be here at the eye of the storm

[07:42:25] to witness the fruits of our labor. It's a pretty cool story.

[07:42:30] Rohosh. The call has been answered. Meet your end with joy. Who dares call the Lord of the Eastwind.

[07:42:39] Wait, what is this place? How could you such a place exist in the Windlord's realm?

[07:42:45] So the rumors were true. My wayward brothers did well to conceal this place from the gaze of Alakir.

[07:42:50] Yes, yes, it is by my will that the way to sephirist is open to you bring me before your

[07:42:57] Windlord so he may know who is the herald of his glory

[07:43:00] Ah, you dare to command me mortal. No, I think not be gone insignificant elf

[07:43:06] No, no, I would never die there and she dies. Oh, that's great. That's great

[07:43:11] Enjoy your remaining time as guests in my Lord's realm until his judgment inevitably arrives

[07:43:15] You'll know not win, but it is coming so she she was like used to open the

[07:43:21] portal. Oh, wow, and there's like three

[07:43:27] So it is an elite mob

[07:43:30] Enveloping wins 10 seconds stun there and and blacks

[07:43:36] Wait, why can I charge in combat?

[07:43:43] That was weird.

[07:43:44] I don't have like the charge in combat thing.

[07:43:47] That must be a bug.

[07:43:50] I wonder if my Lord will enslave your people or merely consume them for sport.

[07:43:54] I, wait, wait, what is this?

[07:43:57] Sorry that we're late, max level.

[07:44:03] It took a bit of work to convince Archmage Ronin to open the trans-planar portal.

[07:44:09] Kirin Tor mages, an earthen ring.

[07:44:12] This isn't what I expected for our first meeting to go, but I'm glad you made it.

[07:44:16] Nor is this how I envisioned our first meeting, Moan.

[07:44:22] So the Kirin Tor mages and the shamans.

[07:44:24] The shamans are on the side of the horde, the mages are on the side of the ally.

[07:44:31] Well mortals for now enjoy your respite. I simply cannot wait to tell the windlord about all those transpired here. I

[07:44:41] Think it's time for us to be leaving this place. I'll be opening a portal of Valinar

[07:44:46] Moulin Earth theory the earth ring the wind shapers would be happy to accept you as our guest

[07:44:51] Yes, and you arc mage rune weaver the high order is eager to learn more of the current tour

[07:44:56] okay um wow so I actually like some of this dialogue and the storyline of

[07:45:04] someone trying to get more power and the person who's more powerful is like yeah

[07:45:09] I was using he was upon see you later like I like that that's funny my big

[07:45:13] issue is that we're level 14 a quest line like this would be cool when you're

[07:45:22] level 50 or 60, I think. I think 14 is too early to bring in like max level characters,

[07:45:33] like all of that kind of stuff. I don't want that at 14. I think 14 should be similar to

[07:45:40] human starting zone 14. Torren starting zone 14. What are you doing? You're in Westfall killing

[07:45:47] um pillagers you're not you're not like summoning some max level characters to do this like crazy

[07:45:55] conflict or whatever I know it's a new starting zone and it's a big deal to get out of there but

[07:46:01] I still think it's a little too grand um I like the dialogue and I like the story but I think

[07:46:09] that probably could have been saved until much later

[07:46:12] That's my knee-jerk reaction anyhow, so it's got it. Is that the final? Is that the finale?

[07:46:28] Inventory is full. Speak with Talos and Valonier. Okay, this sword is cool looking.

[07:46:40] I think this sword art feels kind of rad.

[07:46:49] I'm strong as heck now.

[07:46:50] We're leaving in full greens.

[07:46:54] Don't forget it's a racial quest line.

[07:46:59] True.

[07:47:02] What sword?

[07:47:03] True.

[07:47:04] That sword has one extra pixel?

[07:47:11] True.

[07:47:22] Speak with Talonus Shadowsong.

[07:47:26] Can you look for the Frog Easter Egg?

[07:47:31] I actually did the frog easter egg already, yeah.

[07:47:38] I need to reflect upon this further, but looking at the upside, we have Ritter, Selves, have Luth,

[07:47:43] Lorthuna, and deprive the cult of their leader.

[07:47:45] Our home has not been invaded yet, and on the timeline of elemental demigods, it could be years, decades, before Alakir

[07:47:51] thames to turn his attention to us. There's so much to fear now, but much to celebrate as well.

[07:47:56] Okay, so now we're gonna leave Zephyrus in a second here.

[07:48:01] Can you leave Skyborne without finishing the story quest?

[07:48:09] That's actually a good question.

[07:48:10] Can you leave at level 1 and just go do the human starting zone?

[07:48:13] I actually don't know.

[07:48:16] I would assume, yeah, because you said people could get here.

[07:48:19] I would assume you could just take the bow and leave.

[07:48:24] That's funny.

[07:48:25] Take this ship from Sephrus Isle to Dalaran City.

[07:48:28] Oh wow.

[07:48:30] So this is what you guys were talking about, I'm getting the Dalaran.

[07:48:39] Alakir Raid confirmed.

[07:48:41] Oh, true!

[07:48:43] I didn't put that together.

[07:48:46] Go left, wrong way.

[07:48:47] Wait, what do you mean?

[07:48:50] Oh, it's this ship here?

[07:48:52] Not these ones?

[07:48:57] I guess these are like that here and tour flags or whatever

[07:49:07] Okay, well, I'm glad I experienced this because

[07:49:10] Now I can talk about it a bit more, you know, it actually was very similar to what I thought but I

[07:49:17] Actually liked it more than I thought I would overall. I really I really had a positive experience overall

[07:49:24] I think a few of the art assets. Yeah, like the

[07:49:30] It's really the the vibrancy of those of those one creatures. What are they called?

[07:49:36] The purple like kind of screams out the zone though. I

[07:49:42] Thought was beautiful. I love the shrine of Akir. I love the ruins of Banethel

[07:49:47] This area reminded me of like mop a little bit or like a rathy very nice

[07:49:52] The easter eggs were cool. The lore was cool.

[07:49:55] The setting looked good. The quest played well until the last quest. The last quest to me felt too grand for a level 14 narrative.

[07:50:09] Yeah, I think that's pretty much it. I don't know if I have anything else to say besides those points right there.

[07:50:22] the music the music was good I enjoyed the music how should it have happened the last

[07:50:39] little bit I think telling a similar story to that without like summoning all of these

[07:50:46] high level people and the like,

[07:50:49] Windlord dude, I think,

[07:50:51] telling a similar story to that through dialogue

[07:50:54] and you just kind of see the person capture him

[07:50:55] and call him GGs and like later on,

[07:50:58] maybe Skyborne get a quest where you see something

[07:51:01] like epic like this happen.

[07:51:02] I think just seeing something like that at 14

[07:51:04] just screams modern MMO to me,

[07:51:07] not even retail or maybe retail,

[07:51:09] but like any modern MMO I've played feels this way.

[07:51:11] We're like, within your first few hours of playing,

[07:51:14] Actually, modern MMOs are more guilty of this.

[07:51:16] Within your first 20 minutes of playing,

[07:51:19] you'll see something like that.

[07:51:21] Whereas Classic WoW is traditionally like,

[07:51:23] I'm trying to think of something that feels like that.

[07:51:25] Like the Enixia questline,

[07:51:28] where you see like a big dragon appear,

[07:51:31] is not so like the end of the Enixia questline at six.

[07:51:34] You're not gonna see that for literally months

[07:51:36] as a new player or weeks if you're a seasoned player, right?

[07:51:42] Are you guys sure this is the right boat?

[07:51:44] I'm trying to think of another quest line that feels similar to this like the

[07:52:00] enixia one maybe you're not actually killing enixia but you're like turning

[07:52:05] in this quest and she like comes up for a second spoilers obviously enixia quest

[07:52:10] signs a little more grand but still it's somewhat similar. Is there another quest

[07:52:15] that's even close to how that felt this early? Like there's Thunderfury, but

[07:52:20] Thunderfury feels more grand as it should because it's like endgame stuff.

[07:52:26] Like the answer is no right? Like the equivalent would be like Hogger. The

[07:52:33] equivalent would be like Hogger. So the equivalent to the... because to answer

[07:52:37] person's questions what should it have been? It should probably have been the difficulty of like a

[07:52:41] hogger. You kill like a you know something like that and then there's a greater threat looming

[07:52:49] which eventually becomes a raid right you can you can foreshadow things to come without actually

[07:52:56] seeing them. Save Princess, Vagash, Hogger, yeah. The elite was easier than Hogger and

[07:53:15] the spectacle was more grand. Yeah, that's true, that's true. Ding ding! The sky cutter

[07:53:24] Ballant for Gallarin City has arrived all aboard!

[07:53:31] Louise, you trying to duel me?

[07:53:41] I'm applying samurai bro.

[07:53:54] Hogger killed more players than those elite elementals?

[07:53:59] Probably true.

[07:54:00] My pets glitched.

[07:54:02] Oh no.

[07:54:24] But how do you justify it that NPCs need to contact the outside world?

[07:54:28] They've been hiding from to come help and join the factions without some massive looming threat?

[07:54:32] Like I said, you can keep the story of the massing looming threat without actually seeing it.

[07:54:36] You could kill something that alludes to a massive looming threat and then we need help.

[07:54:41] I'm just...

[07:54:42] It's just the whole thing feels too grand to actually get like teleported to another instance

[07:54:47] and then like spin in circles over this like...

[07:54:49] Like it just feels like too grand for a level 14 quest.

[07:54:53] The quest is cool, by the way, for a higher level.

[07:54:58] The story is fine, they just need to space out till higher levels. Yeah, I agree. I agree. I agree.

[07:55:07] I'm lagging. Uh-oh.

[07:55:09] Oh.

[07:55:10] So, it spits you out in Dalaran.

[07:55:21] Wait, I thought Dalaran was like overtaken by enemies.

[07:55:25] Is there a part of it where it's not?

[07:55:35] Oh

[07:55:45] Valorant is only my second time seeing it guys

[07:55:52] My question is how did all of this fit under the that bubble because the bubble was tiny

[07:55:59] Like how did that?

[07:56:01] fit under the bubble

[07:56:03] Magic oh

[07:56:07] True

[07:56:10] Okay, it's bigger on the inside magic

[07:56:16] So you get to Dalaran Oh Dalaran's a sanctuary

[07:56:20] So when I went to Dalaran the other day, I was getting owned I had to run out. Oh, there's like a mail

[07:56:24] But oh it's a city

[07:56:26] Wait on this side. It totally wasn't though, right?

[07:56:33] I ran in and got like kill I'd like run away take the sky born portal to storm wind

[07:56:43] So there's a storm wind portal right there before I take that though like what's what's actually going on in here

[07:56:54] I thought this was gonna be like a dungeon with like hostile enemies

[07:56:59] Wait, it's just like a full-on city right here? Oh, it's just full on Dalaran? What the heck?

[07:57:07] Wait, what? Huh? Wait, there's like full-on city, full-on mailbox? Enchanting? There's not,

[07:57:19] Um, like an auction house here, is there?

[07:57:23] Auction house doors closed

[07:57:26] Taylor

[07:57:28] These doors are closed

[07:57:32] Why are you confused I thought Dalaran was a dungeon I literally did it at BlizzCon

[07:57:38] You're in like so there must be some other lore

[07:57:49] I don't know what to do.

[07:57:58] This guy doesn't sell anything.

[07:58:07] Stable master.

[07:58:09] City of Dalaran.

[07:58:11] So this is where I ran up the

[07:58:13] other day and I started getting

[07:58:15] attacked.

[07:58:17] So I guess it's just a

[07:58:19] No? Yes.

[07:58:24] All Alliance can go there. I literally got attacked here as Alliance like three days ago.

[07:58:30] There's a faction rep for it later.

[07:58:37] They changed it two days ago.

[07:58:40] Only Skyborn, not all Alliance.

[07:58:43] Okay, so maybe it'll be a reputation or something. That's really interesting.

[07:58:49] I'm kind of curious how they're going to do the dungeon then.

[07:58:57] Yes, a Kirin Tor in high order I have reps for.

[07:59:19] I'm a guild leader actually.

[07:59:38] My own guild, Forever Hype, which you can join if you want to, but I do appreciate it.

[07:59:46] of the five all right um let's move this way

[07:59:56] chef on the unruly

[08:00:05] adam on the trader reagents and magical goods oh speaking of this area black

[08:00:13] black market auction house is still something I need to check out.

[08:00:22] What zone is this?

[08:00:23] We're in the underbelly of Dalaran.

[08:00:27] Easy hero.

[08:00:28] Thanks for the prime man.

[08:00:36] A wrathy base in Battle Master.

[08:00:41] I'm so confused.

[08:00:42] Wait.

[08:00:43] There's a whole city here.

[08:00:46] I wonder, okay, yeah, very interesting.

[08:00:50] Oh!

[08:00:55] Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[08:01:00] Premier.

[08:01:03] Hey, how you doing?

[08:01:11] Oh.

[08:01:13] Bro, oh my, dude, I can't wait for this game to actually come out.

[08:01:17] Oh my gosh, man.

[08:01:20] I can't wait for this game to come out, guys.

[08:01:23] We might have to hit some Saturday streams when this game comes out.

[08:01:25] Like, I'm going to be so dumb addicted.

[08:01:28] Oh my gosh.

[08:01:43] I actually have two things to say there, one, when the beta ends, you're restarting.

[08:02:08] When the game comes out, you're restarting.

[08:02:10] So it's not like you get to grind him on beta and then keep him for the game.

[08:02:14] When it comes out everything is reset, just so you know.

[08:02:17] And two, guys I'm actually not a fan of that legacy talent where if you have a main you

[08:02:25] can get the comp, if you have a bunch of ults at 20 with enough talent points you get five

[08:02:29] early.

[08:02:30] I don't like that.

[08:02:32] That's the one that I don't like.

[08:02:33] I love legacy talents or legacy points.

[08:02:36] I love the idea of it, but I don't like that you get character power for one character

[08:02:40] through playing another character.

[08:02:42] The best thing I can do on a 19-twin is log out and play another character.

[08:02:46] I'm not a fan.

[08:02:47] I'm not a fan of that one.

[08:02:50] I will say that.

[08:02:52] Oh, you guys all agree with me.

[08:02:57] Check the BMAH.

[08:02:58] It wasn't there.

[08:02:59] glids. Alright. I'm surprised people were agreeing with me. I thought that was gonna

[08:03:17] be a crazy take.

[08:03:21] Airy Windseeker shirt.

[08:03:32] I think Legacy Point should be fun flavor things, not if I don't have this on my Alts

[08:03:38] and the Dead Minds, this person is going to be like way stronger than me or something.

[08:03:43] Or if it's your main character, if it's your first character and someone else, you know,

[08:03:47] has some ults, it's like, oh, they're gonna be like way stronger early game.

[08:03:50] I don't know.

[08:03:51] I don't like that for a legacy point.

[08:03:52] For me, legacy point should be for fun flavor stuff, not early character power.

[08:03:58] Akuri, Akuri, Akuri, okay.

[08:04:00] I didn't know if I was like, kind of off here, but seems like some people at least agree.

[08:04:08] By the way, I do like legacy points in general.

[08:04:17] Welcome to Azeroth.

[08:04:18] So basically after all of that, you get a portal

[08:04:21] and you have a storm and keep

[08:04:22] and it says welcome to Azeroth.

[08:04:23] So now we're here.

[08:04:25] Let's go turn it in.

[08:04:34] Disagree on just flavor,

[08:04:35] but that one is particularly too strong.

[08:04:38] Yeah, I think I think they could nerf it to like you get talent points one level earlier

[08:04:43] Maybe like or maybe even two even that I don't like

[08:05:07] Is there anything else?

[08:05:34] I'm trying to think if there's anything else that gives you character power, like a count-wide

[08:05:41] character power.

[08:05:43] Guess not.

[08:05:46] Attack power, spell damage, stamina, cloak.

[08:05:50] Speak with Randall in Stormwind Keep.

[08:05:54] Journey to Sentinel Hill.

[08:05:55] So it takes you to Sentinel Hill, takes you to Westfall.

[08:05:58] Straight from here it takes you to Westfall.

[08:06:00] Okay, cool.

[08:06:02] Gold?

[08:06:03] Yeah, like gold.

[08:06:05] See, yeah, heirlooms don't exist in classic, but gold.

[08:06:08] Yeah, I'm just gold.

[08:06:13] Ba-bee-ba-ba.

[08:06:20] Exploring the Alliance.

[08:06:22] Speed with High Tinker, Mechatorque, King Magni, and Tyrande.

[08:06:29] So basically as you go around and like learn

[08:06:32] about Stormwind Ironforge and Tharn,

[08:06:35] because you're like the newcomer here.

[08:06:36] It's like, what's going on?

[08:06:38] Or you can say no thanks and just go straight to Westfall.

[08:06:42] Cool.

[08:06:42] All right.

[08:06:43] Well, that kind of wraps up the Skyborne.

[08:06:45] I wanted to try to do the entire starting experience.

[08:06:50] I think I already pretty much gave my overall feedback.

[08:06:54] Overall, I liked it more than I thought I would.

[08:06:58] I think it's good.

[08:07:01] I just, I think that that last quest, I think I had the most,

[08:07:05] I think like every quest except that last one,

[08:07:07] it just felt too grand for 14 to me.

[08:07:09] I'd rather something more similar to like Hogger or whatever.

[08:07:15] I also think the, you know, facets.

[08:07:19] But besides that, I think the quests, the zone,

[08:07:22] it looked pretty, the music, felt pretty chill.

[08:07:26] My slash played at 14 is six hours, 25 minutes

[08:07:29] and we're in Stormwind at 14.

[08:07:30] So, seems pretty quick too, overall.

[08:07:37] Sweet.

[08:07:41] All right, guys.

[08:07:48] I think I'm gonna need some cheese cheese.

[08:07:53] Oh, shoot, I'm nice.

[08:07:54] I was like, where did that come from?

[08:07:57] I think it's gonna be some cheese cheese, guys.

[08:08:00] On Monday, I still haven't done world pvp bro, it literally just keeps escaping me every day.

[08:08:11] But we did an ult today, I did promise an ult, we got an ult.

[08:08:14] On Monday, we might do a little bit of world pvp, a little south shore vs sillsprad, we

[08:08:19] were supposed to do that today, but the servers were lagging so we couldn't.

[08:08:24] On Monday, we might check that out.

[08:08:28] On the mage, a little south shore versus Silsprad.

[08:08:31] Get a little action going.

[08:08:33] I think I'll probably hit 20 on the warrior.

[08:08:35] Like I said, I don't necessarily plan to play a ton of warrior at 20, but I do plan to make

[08:08:40] a lot more ults.

[08:08:41] I still want to do the human starting zone since it's my favorite and I haven't done

[08:08:45] it.

[08:08:46] I still want to make a rogue and a priest and a pali.

[08:08:50] So figure out what's going on there.

[08:08:52] Guys, have a great weekend. GGs. Today's, you guys, this week is legendary on the streams, guys. Legendary.

[08:09:00] Crazy, crazy, crazy fun, man. I had a blast.

[08:09:04] If you enjoyed, hit the follow button. I'll see you guys back Monday. Have a great weekend, alright?

[08:09:09] Oh, we missed a donation from Ancheri. He says, you might not have noticed, but in the northern part of the Skyward Zone, they're using, they are, they use facing, I wonder if they will use that more.

[08:09:19] I did not notice. I'd have to think about that one, I guess, and yo, thanks for the super chat, man. Alright, cheesy skies right here