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09-12-2026 · 4h 39m
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Good morning guys, how y'all doing?
So early?
I know bro, I know, I know, I know, I know, it's a big day, it's a very big day, I had
to do it. I had to do it to him. I wasn't ready, but I'm awake. I know I know I'm guys.
I fell asleep. I was playing some more dogs last night and I just passed the fuck out
and I'm glad. Actually, I think I got up sleep at least right, but I got allergies.
Excuse me. Alright anyway. So yeah, I'm feeling okay. Yeah, I'm feeling fine. And yeah, I actually, honestly, I felt like shit earlier this morning.
But I'm feeling a little bit better now. I'll tell you that and I was like, oh, bro
Like am I gonna be able to do this? And I'm like, yeah, of course you're gonna be able to do a pussy get up
And then the next thing you know, I was online, right? That's what it was. Bill Mayer mentioned you. I heard about that
I'm gonna have to look at it and everything else. You Domino's I went to
what is it
raising canes went to raising canes last night and
That shit was really good man
Like I got the the four the four chicken strip thing and they gave me five
Like actually I literally got a bonus chicken strip last night and I ate the entire thing and man
That was a lot of food. I'll tell you that that was really a lot of food. Do we have a bingo card?
Yeah, we're gonna make a bingo card. I want to finish this and they're at least wait for it to start
So I know like what the time frame is gonna be then we are gonna make the bingo card and do everything else man
Have you had any breakfast? Yeah, I had a neutral grain bar and everything and everything else. So, yeah, it's a small victories
Yeah, something like that, right and
predictions well
We're gonna make a bingo and we're gonna go through it and we're gonna see kind of what people are expecting and
What they're not so to me. I'm I'm very excited. I'm extremely excited
But you know, I just hope that it's gonna be as good as as I think it will be right and make the bingo card with AI
Oh, yeah, I saw people got mad and didn't they get mad at like Tauly or something like that for that
They're like, oh, you can't do that. You shouldn't be able to do that. Like, you know, it's like the usual like anti AI stuff
I saw that it was kind of funny, but
They did that's what I thought it was I just wasn't sure about it
But anyway, wow Camelot new mobile experience imagine. I mean I I don't know if they're gonna do a mobile game or not
Right, like I my opinion is that like I don't think that
The weird thing is, like, phone games are really good now.
Like, I mean, like, Genshin Impact is a good game, it's just pay to win, right?
Like, Wuthering Waves is a good game, it's just pay to win.
So, like, you can play, like, I don't know, like, I mean, there's a lot of games
that you can play on a phone, theoretically, right?
So, like, I mean, you can play Uma Masume, right?
And that's, I mean, I guess that's like, that's probably not a great example to be fair.
But there's other games that you can play on a phone, and it's totally fine.
So, I mean, like, you could probably play nine souls on a phone, right?
Like, I don't think that'd be an issue.
Uh, Mina the Hauer, I can guarantee you, you can play that on a phone.
So, it's like Jump King, you can play this on a phone.
So, there's a lot of games you can play on phones anyway.
So, I don't think that you should make it to where like,
oh, well, if something's mobile, it's like, automatically bad.
I feel like whenever Diablo Immortal came out, like, that was absolutely true.
Where it was like, any mobile game that comes out is gonna be like, a pay-to-win piece of shit.
But I think that that's kind of changed over time and that's a good thing too.
And is my Twitch bug? I mean, I have no idea.
You know, the website's always, it seems like they've had issues with like large amounts of
traffic recently. So like maybe a lot of people are alive to like watch BlizzCon
and it's causing it to lag out. I don't know. So yeah, Hall's a tournament.
Yeah, there's another one, right? Slave Aspire. So I'm not against it, right?
But anyway, no, I think that, you know, they do need to do something with Classic.
Like, that's what I really want to see Classic WoW continued,
or for them to make a new game that is WoW, but in some other variation, right?
Like, that's what I've really kind of wanted, because I feel like retail WoW to me,
as cool as it is, it's just not really for me. It's not, it's not for me.
Like, I've played it too long, I've done it too many times, I'm ready for a new experience, right?
I am.
Phones are more powerful now, they sure are.
Did you like Plunderstorm?
Ah, it, no, not really. I mean, I did, I did. It was nice, but it wasn't something that I would do regularly, right?
It just didn't really seem like, I mean, I want to play,
like, I mean, if it's a World of Warcraft game, like, I want to have some kind of like progression.
You want to have some kind of like, like, I like playing games with meta level progression, right?
Like to me that's what's enjoyable
Still waiting for world of starcraft. Well, maybe you'll get it today. I don't know but yeah, we'll have to see how you doing
I'm chilling then
I'm chilling someone was curious last night if you were excited for classic wow. Oh, yeah, I am I am excited
I any if it comes out, right? But yeah, I mean, I hope so and that's past 11. What's the occasion?
It is blizzcon day
It is this is gonna be crazy. I'm very very excited
and the StarCraft Arc Raiders game is coming.
I don't think that that would be a good idea, personally.
I think that a Destiny-style StarCraft game would be really cool,
but a extraction game I just feel like is such a small audience.
Like, every extraction game I feel like kind of dies.
Like, it just takes time for it to die.
And whenever I say die, I don't really mean the game totally fails.
I just mean that, you know, it's not as popular as, you know, like other stuff would be.
And one hour, seven minutes, yeah, this one says six minutes, though, so we'll see what this is.
Excuse me. And is there a countdown for this? Yeah, it says six minutes and then the main show should be in a little bit over an hour.
So I tried to make it on time and it looks like I'm quite early, so that's good. When can we get the bingo?
I'll do it like a half hour before the show starts, right? And that's what I would do.
update the title I did. Why didn't you go to BlizzCon with Sfand? Because I didn't want to.
I don't like traveling. I don't like traveling. I don't like going to events.
Like it's really just that simple. Like if it was happening, like I don't know, like even if it
was happening in Austin, I probably wouldn't do it. Just because like I don't like going to events
generally. Like the last event that I went to, I think I went to an anime convention with like
Amaru, Kaisi, and Tectone like in 2024 or something, right? 23. And after that, and I think also like,
you know, there is the reality that like, you know, my stream's gotten a lot more popular. And so,
you know, I don't want to get mobbed down by people or something. Like anywhere I go, I almost get
recognized like all the time. So it's like, you know, if I want to go to an event, like a big event,
And it kind of, you know, it does make me a little bit like nervous, but that's not really the main issue.
The main issue to me is like, I just don't really want to.
So it's really just that simple, right?
Have you heard of Starcraft Ghost? I did. I remember that.
That was a, I remember there were like whole pre-use for it in like Game Informer magazine and everything.
And then it just never came out.
So if Blizzard says they're going to make something, honestly, I mean, that was the only game Blizzard said they were going to make and they didn't make it, right?
I mean, I feel like everything else worked, but you're up early. I know that man
And if you had a Chud Army protecting it was kind of be cool
It would be very funny
But then I'd have to deal with it and I'd also have to leave the house, right?
I mean like let's be honest and I don't know if I could really do much with that
I'm pretty sure I can't but anyway. Yeah, Warcraft adventures. Yeah, that would but that was like a PC game from way way way back in the day
right? I mean, I feel like that was a long ass time ago. And so yeah, what time did you wake up?
Maybe like a half hour ago or something, right? Like, I'd have to really think about it, but it
was something like that. Like a half hour. And then I honestly, I woke up like two or three hours
ago. And then I was like falling asleep, waking back up, falling asleep again. And it was one of
those things, right? But yeah, generally, that's that's pretty much what it was. Let me go and
I'll get ready for this and anyway, so just to say that's really loud. Oh my god. Okay. Anyway
So, um, yeah, do you think MMOs are dead as a genre? I think that MMOs as they stand right now are dead
I do. I think MMOs are totally dead. Why do I think they're dead? I think they're dead because it's just not really worth
I'm trying to think a good way to say this like it's not worth investing the time into an MMO
because the amount of effort and like everything.
And I think also like you're gonna have,
like you're already starting to have this
where like chat GPT is like playing video games for people.
So like botting is gonna become so normalized
that I don't think you're gonna be able
to do anything about it, right?
Too much FOMO and investment.
Yeah, I mean like I would say overall,
that's probably true, yeah.
And because of corporate incompetence, lack of innovation.
Well, I think also like an MMO is like the,
It's like the most expensive game to make, right?
Like there's no other type of game
that's more expensive than MMO to make.
So because MMOs are so expensive,
then they need to make that back
with either just crazy amounts of revenue from subscriptions.
It's like, because I feel like WoW is kind of grandfathered in
with people's expectations of like,
oh, well, there's a subscription you have to buy
to play the game.
But I think that for a lot of people,
they don't really wanna do that.
Nobody wants to nobody wants to buy a subscription to play a game. I don't think Guild Wars 3 is going to be like insanely good
I think it'll be successful because it's a bit like Guild Wars was always a buy-to-play game and
They did update kind of sparingly and also it had a really dedicated fan base
So I do think that it'll be successful, but it won't be like World of Warcraft or RuneScape or Final Fantasy 14
I don't really think so. So
Yeah, crazy networking and hosting events. Yeah, I mean maybe right
I don't know battle passes are pretty popular
Well, I mean they are pretty popular battle passes are popular and I think that you're right that you know if you look at it in an abstract
A battle pass is basically a subscription, right?
So it's like if you're asking people to play for a battle pass like I have so this is like maybe
Maybe I don't think it is a controversial opinion anymore, but I remember you when it used to be is that
Sorry
I remember whenever I used to think that, and I talked about this a lot, where like basically my problem was like pay to win was bad when you were able to pay like a person with like $100 would be more successful than a person with $50 and a person with $200 would be more successful than a person with $100, right?
So it's like infinite pay to win, but I think that a game that just has like one binary just pay this like base
subscription battle pass, you know, like, you know
Fixed fee a month and like you have all the advantages that everybody else has
But if you don't pay that there's like a free-to-play version where you're gimped. I actually think that's okay
I do and you know, there's a lot of games that do that and I feel like runescape does that
I'm pretty sure Wow does that final fantasy does that once I don't know once human does that or not
I'm not sure about that but BDO does that yeah
I and I think that's the best model to have or like you have a free-to-play model and you also have a
Subscription model that you can opt into that functions like a battle pass
I think that's actually a great idea and that's basically what Wow did right most gamers don't play MMOs
They're already locked into things like Wow. Yeah, and I think that that's another big issue
issue is that while players are not really gamers, they're just while players.
So I think that's a huge difference.
You can see a new Starcraft game.
I, you know, we'll just have to wait and see, man.
Yeah.
Do we figure out why I saw and deleted his VOD for me yesterday?
Probably because he looked fat in it.
He's probably just looking fat.
And so he just got embarrassed and he's like, I don't want to look fat.
You know, like they're going to make fun of me again.
And so that's the reason I don't know.
People thought it was some kind of big conspiracy and he did something bad like I have no idea what happened
I I don't know like obviously I'll I'll look at that later on but like right now. I mean it's it's
It's it's video game time. Okay, like this is this is a big deal. This is blizzcon
All right, like we don't have time to figure out what why Hassan did something stupid today
Like this is a big deal today. Like it's a very big deal
I know what the I know at least some of these announcements are gonna be there's a reason I woke up early and
And I really don't want to be disappointed. I haven't really been told in like great detail
So I've only been given like kind of a bird's-eye view. What is what are y'all doing? What is this?
No, like guys
What is
Jesus
Man
Did we really have to do this?
did you really have to put this on so okay cringe theater kid art I really
couldn't have said it better myself wow well okay vibe instantly ruined I know
let me see the live chat what's the live chat saying flooded again
Sylvanas refresh window camel is this Camelot music? Oh, it's a guy in the background. I see it now, right?
Of course and why refresh and I think people yeah people are very excited about this whole
Warcraft Camelot thing. I
I don't know
I have no idea
No idea. It's gonna be a very exciting period of time
By the way, they have drops under the lous section for blizzcon. Oh, really?
So should I stream under the lous section for blizzcon? Let me see this. I'll pull it up and see for myself
Because usually it's under special events
So if it's not then I'm trying to see are there any other blizzcon streams. There's this one. I
I feel like it would probably be there if it if it might be later on like it might be later on for it
And that's why but I don't really know
Because usually I just try to do whatever is just they're not even in a section. Why are they not even in the section?
That's weird
So, okay
ASMR section. Yeah, I know right?
Let me actually turn this down a little bit. It's a little loud and
Okay, there we go. That's better and it says it's starting in an hour. Yeah, okay
Well, anyway, I'll just I'll do whatever but I might switch it over to that later on
But everyone else in the wild section it seems like I mean I see chances and in there and I guess S
Fand is but like S fan like these guys are like only wild streamers like S
Fan doesn't but other than that, I think everybody else is a you know, like they're all like super like, you know
Only wow streamers exclusive last streamers. So I don't know. I mean like I'll give it a little bit more time and you know
I'll decide then it's not a huge rush, right? But anyway
That drops just started. Oh really? Let me see it
Let me pull it up and find it
Get the drop on new blizzcon rewards and this is eligibility
watching the eligible World of Warcraft stream and I think I'm eligible right?
and my my counseling I know that that 9.30 oh it just happened yeah okay yeah
I guess I should just swap over so you guys can can get the drops for it I
mean like why not yeah I feel like that's just like I mean seems kind of
like obvious that you would want to do that. Okay. Yeah. So it's I don't think I don't think
a section other than that really matters, right? So yeah, now we have drops enabled.
So check Starcraft official homepage. Well, we'll see what happens, right? I don't know
what that's going to be. So we'll find out. And yeah, just frickin do it. Yeah. And I don't
even know if I have a lot installed right now, actually, have you seen the latest 7 million
gold amount yet already? No, I haven't. I haven't really looked at any of the new WoW stuff.
I haven't paid attention to any of it. I haven't looked at it. I haven't been invested in it.
I don't really know. The only thing that I'm excited about is a WoW reset or a WoW Classic Plus.
Like whatever they announced for retail WoW, unless it is like again a reset or something similar to
that I'm not really like super excited for it right but um I'll tell you that you know like
other than that I mean yeah I should be you don't know what the answer but you just played the war
with him I didn't I didn't play the war with him I didn't play midnight either uh well I just stopped
because as I said I talked about this before like I already kind of played midnight and I played the
the war within like for years during Legion, right? Like I played that in BFA and also Shadowlands.
Like I played those expansions and those expansions were basically the exact same thing. Like
it was just every patch was the same thing. And I was like, okay, they just added this
star, wait, they just added Starcraft that was what, that what is this?
your device has been compromised. Oh no! Oh no! Oh wow! Infinite fronts, infinite enemies,
real-turn strategy! By now! Oh what?! They gonna we do a stalk laugh? Is this new? Did
Does this just come out?
No, this is nine years ago.
That's not a big deal, right?
Yeah, okay, well, we'll see what happens.
Yeah, 2016, yeah, I feel like that happened a long time ago.
So, is that new?
I don't think it's new yet.
So, we'll see.
But, you know, I'll try not just play the message.
Just the message.
Oh, okay, okay, I got it.
Oops, it didn't mean to do that.
Let me go back.
And the red page you closed was the new thing.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I didn't see that.
I didn't know that.
I mean, obviously I don't really go
to the Starcraft webpage a lot, so who knows?
But I guess we'll find out.
I don't like, did you know Ashbringer
was supposed to be Thunder Fury in the initial game?
Like they were gonna make Ashbringer Thunder Fury,
but then they changed it.
Like I really do think Thunder Fury is like,
it's one of those weapons,
like there are very few weapons in video games,
But like, Thunder Fury is like, what weapon is,
I guess, I would say Frostmourne or Thunder Fury,
which one is more iconic?
Like, what other iconic weapons are there from video games?
I guess there's like, so there's Nightmare's Sword
from Soul Calibur.
What else besides that?
The Energy Sword from Halo, that's a really good one.
The Buster Sword? I never even thought of that, Rivers of Blood, yeah.
Let me think, besides that, the Jedi Sword? You mean a lightsaber you fucking retard?
Yeah, Gandalf Staff? Well, that's not really from a game though, right?
And I don't even know if the staff- I don't think people really care about the staff a lot, it's just like a thing.
Yeah, the gut's great, so that's from Manga, but yeah, I do feel like Thunder Fury is basically
one of, if not the, like, one of the most famous, like, fucking video game weapons of all time,
then. It is. Like, you could probably show this to, like, any group of people on the internet,
and at least, like, 10 or 30% of them would get it. And if not a lot higher.
And Yamato. Well, that was, like, an interesting one, right? Because wasn't Yamato, like, a character
in some final fantasies too, or as well as a character, God of War, bro. Oh, the blades! Yes,
the blades of chaos or something. I'm trying to remember from God of War. Yeah, no, you're right.
I didn't even think of that. And yeah, Devil May Cry. Yeah, Ebony and Ivory from Devil May Cry,
the Dante's Guns. That's another one too. The Mortal Blade from Sekiro. I think that's much more
That's much more of a niche thing, I would say.
And Assassin's Creed Hidden Blade.
Yeah, yeah, the Assassin's Creed thing
is another one, kind of like Spider-Man, right?
Or I guess it's over the hand, so it's a little different.
And Oversal Sword Yamato.
Oh, I was thinking of something else.
Moonlight Sword is big.
Yeah, I would say like, I mean,
From Software Games are so popular that maybe,
you know, it's like it's broken containment, right?
So yeah, the Keyblade.
Keyblade's another really good one.
But I do feel like for World of Warcraft, like the most iconic weapons, I would say are Sulphuris, Thunderfury, the Warglaives, Ateesh, Ashbringer.
Oh, Frostborn.
And then also, like I would say, yeah, under that, yeah, Ghorhowl, yeah, like, let me think, and then there's the other ones for like the people that are the bigger fans of the game.
So like doom hammer
Fuck like anything besides the hunger and cold well, that's like I mean that's like a you only know that if you play classical
A lot right like most people don't really know that weapon
But like Sephiroth blade
Yeah, that's true the Axis scenario. Yeah, that was also another really big one shall remain. That's another good one
Yeah, staff of Jordan. Yeah, the gears chainsaw gun. Yeah, no doubt man
And would you say Zalatath dagger? I would I think that was a very I mean like she's like the main character
Like the main villain in wow now, right? I'm pretty sure she is I don't even know so like she's still like at the main bad guy
Right like Zalatath is I'm just kind of assuming now, but I'm not even really sure
You know Kyce's due for a visit so she can so she can do your hair again
Oh my god, bro. Like I honestly I just wake up and whatever it's like a I just rolled the dice
Like I don't know how my hair looks today versus yesterday or anything else
This is just another day for me. I tie this shit up
Let's just get in fucking hot and what hair?
So anyway, so I see you washed it. That's funny. That's really funny
I think that washing your hair and like all that kind of stuff is just fake
I think it's like a fake from like water companies or something bro. Like I don't know and
I don't know if I believe it. I'll tell you that and
And the show's so weird. It is really weird. I don't know what they were thinking about having this as like the pre-show
It's just really weird where it's like, you know one like random man and like four girls in cosplay
Walking around awkwardly in a room like looking and showing, you know different things around like it's like this is definitely
This is something that a millennial thought of a millennial thought. This was a good idea. I
I didn't think this was a good idea even though I'm trans millennial. I am a millennial, but I don't identify as one
So yeah
Do you think he's having a good time?
I mean like I think most people will be having a good time with like four pretty girls in like a room for like
World Warcraft cosplay if you like the game, right? I'm sure he's having a good time
But you know if she keeps holding Thunder Fury like that. I bet he probably won't be it's ridiculous
So, yeah, I'm a non-practicing millennial. I don't own any funk. I do own Funko Pops. It's not true
I do. I just I just remembered I do own Funko Pops, but they were a gift from an ex-girlfriend
So I allow it. So a millennial HR person came up with this. Yeah
Gen Z boss dude, stop bro. Like stop and
Man
You you talk about feel old like a lot of monials do do I feel I I feel like I
So you know what I really feel old is whenever I have to wake up early whenever I have to wake up early
I'm thinking to myself. I'm like, oh my god. I actually am 36
But like other than that I usually feel good and sometimes never I end the day and I'm just like tired
Or like something I don't know there there are like there are like it's not like oh, yeah
your back hurts so you you think that you're old for me it's like all all these like little things
right and uh why the kindergarten lockers well ever since the cosby room they wanted to make sure
that um you know they didn't have any of the uh what is this guy spamming try and get the hell out
of here um so uh yeah after after the cosby room they figured it'd be better for people to be able
to lock up their stuff right so uh yeah uh you live and you learn youtube chat slash spinning yeah i
I know.
Do you own any IRL Wildblades?
I feel like I do.
I mean, I have to have at least one sword or something.
Oh, I have a back pack that's the Bulwark of Azenoth.
I do have that.
And I got it.
So Blizzard had a sale.
It was like, you know, almost 10 years ago or something
where they had a sale and they were like,
if you buy $100 worth of stuff,
we're gonna ship it to you for free.
So I bought $100 worth of stuff
and I bought this backpack.
I just I thought it was really cool. I saw Mike preach while had one and I was like, okay
Well, I have to I have to get this like I mean obviously if he has it I have to get it
And so I just ended up getting it was a sale. Yeah. Yeah, I spent a hundred dollars on it
But this is a while it goes a lot of money
But yeah, I thought you had a Frostmourne. I don't think I do no I don't and to show us the backpacks over there
I don't want to I don't want to get up real like I already had to wake up early
bottle when I got a lot of new shit. That's why I sit here and watch the show. All right.
But my plan is that was the costume in Jim Muck, this fake news. Yeah, it was. It wasn't even real.
I'm just joking around. But yeah, anyway, what was I even thinking about? I was thinking about
something. I forgot all about what I was thinking about. So yeah, oh yeah, for classic WoW. So if
If they do announce a new, like a new version of WoW,
I will, like, I'll make a guild and we'll make Olympus
and we'll do everything, right?
We'll do everything.
We'll make Olympus, we'll get everybody together again
and the whole fucking thing.
So yeah, would you rather announce the,
would you rather them announce Classic Plus or WoW 2?
I'd rather them announce Classic Plus
because WoW 2 is going to be Classic Plus anyway.
Or sorry, Classic Plus is going to be WoW 2.
Like, I do think that like,
I mean, Blizzard shouldn't try to focus on making the game hyper realistic.
You know, like people can always use DLSS or other types of upscalers to do that.
I think it's becoming like more common that like you don't really need to make
your video games like, you know, perfect, right?
In the way that they look.
I think that like, I mean, all you really need to do is you just go and look at,
you know, like, I mean, pub G doesn't look amazing.
War dogs, like, I mean, honestly, the game, like, if you look at the actual
Graphics of the game like it's really not that good, right? I mean Valheim speaks for itself, right? Bongo cat
I'm assuming this probably isn't a very high
Graphics intensive game either so it's like okay. Well, what the hell are we gonna do?
That's not great exactly. So wow classic earth design age incredibly well
So my outlook on it is that you know like having really great graphics is nice, but it's not really necessary
It's just not necessary
What is necessary in my opinion is gameplay, gameplay and style, and style is what matters the most,
and something is like, you know, for example, there's the entire genre that, you know,
friend slop games have for character expression, things like, you know, how to fish or, you know,
like an eye peek or all the other ones I haven't played, and then there's a schedule one, right?
There's like this style that it has and
You hit there up over the entire fly blame to a computer. I saw that I did
Delsing it's run on potatoes for a worldwide sale
I think that a video game should have a low quality option that people in South America can play
Like I like the idea that everybody in the world is online in the same game
I want to be playing with the guys in the slums of New Delhi in the fucking PDP servers of Columbia in
the you know the high peaks of Norway and
In the war zones of Russia and Ukraine right I want to be in there and I want everybody
Yeah, and then the fucking you know the 3,000 year old temple in China
I want everybody to be on the same page
Everybody's playing the same. No, you don't I do I think it's really interesting
I I I used to love whenever Blizzard would do a beta because there were no there were no barriers
So you could play with like Chinese people or like Japanese people or like, you know
Spanish people and like nobody spoke the same language and it was like
it was really funny to me the way that people invented ways to communicate with each other and
The differences culturally between them, right because like Brazilians so like the Brazilians
Brazilians would just like not do anything, right?
I'm not trying to be rude, but like they would just like stand around, jump around.
It's like they never really, it's like Brazilians had no concept of time.
There was never even a concept of like we have to do this dungeon that takes 30 minutes
and next three hours.
They're like, well, this can take all day.
We don't have anything going on today.
So that's the way a lot of Brazilians did things.
And then Chinese were the exact opposite.
And so it was like if you went AFK on one trash poll, you would get vote kicked.
You get vote kicked.
If you're not contributing on one poll, it's like, what's this guy doing?
Is he trying to take advantage of us?
Who is this guy?
Is this guy like a scammer?
What kind of loser is this?
And they would immediately get rid of you.
Remember as you're going to be the next Blade Boss for a while, really?
I hope so, right?
And yeah, what about British?
And I feel like they were just basically Americans, right?
All the Westerners pretty much played the game the same.
I think that the only difference is that Australians were harder.
Okay, so that's actually not true.
French Canadians would always cause problems in every group.
Like if you were in a raid group for one year with a French Canadian, they will have caused
a problem.
At least one problem, if not multiple problems.
Like we had like five French Canadians in our guild, like over the course of, you know,
the years, right?
And every single one of them cause problems.
I think that it's like, you know, you think about the, so you're in French Canada and
you don't speak English like everybody else in Canada.
So you're just used to being fucking annoying.
You're used to being the exception.
You're used to standing out.
You're used to not fitting in.
You're used to not integrating well.
And that's really it.
And so I think culturally, they're just trained to be fucking annoying.
They are.
That's just the way it is and that's and it's only French Canada, right?
It's only Quebec because all the other places you're fine
But you get somebody out there and you know you're gonna have some problems
I'm French Canadian. There it is. You're probably gonna cause a problem
Are we doing a bingo? Yeah, we actually need to
Yeah, let me see. I actually pulled you out. You've had a mod action against you
You have I just checked. Yeah, somebody says I'm French Canadian
I checked to see if he had a mod action you've been timed out before
I'm surprised it's only once, honestly.
What the hell are they doing?
Some cards? Alright, so let's make the bingo.
Let's do it.
Alrighty, guys.
So, let's see. We'll make it blue for Blizzard.
Okay, and we will do...
Blizz... That's not a B.
B, L, I, Z, Z, C, no, that's not a C, Conn, uh, 2000 and 26, okay?
Alright, uh, and this is Bingo.
Okay and you know what we're gonna do, we're just gonna reorient this.
Okay.
You guys can read that, right? I actually think that looks like fucking shit. These these numbers look like garbage
Wait, I can't change them. Oh my god. Okay. I have to I have to fix this give me a minute
Okay, I'm just gonna erase this and I redo it one time
By the way, I've got to clean my monitor
I kept I was playing war dogs and I kept getting false alarms because like dots on my monitor were there
I thought it was a player
Okay. And BlizzCon 2026. 20. Oh, this is, this is amazing. We'll get, we'll get, we'll
Look at that pinmanship. Oh my god.
FUCK!
Okay.
Alright, perfect.
So, and now we'll make the lines and let's get this started.
Okay, um...
There we go.
It has to be four, right?
I'm pretty sure it has to be four.
I'll move a little bit down.
All righty.
Make this a little longer.
There we go.
All right.
It's beautiful.
I know.
You guys, we were doing it again.
OK.
So, the middle space...
That's gonna be a middle space.
I feel like that's what most people are expecting. That's what most people think is gonna happen.
So, we're gonna put that in the middle.
It's the obvious answer. Yep, it's the obvious answer.
Diablo Immortal Update that no one wanted.
Okay, we're going to put this right here.
Okay, that's good.
And Xbox Release.
Wow, Xbox Release.
Okay, that's actually a really good idea.
LGBTQ Plus.
So, something gay, alright, well we already have retail wow, right?
Something gay, yeah, let me add that, alright, this is just anything gay, anything that comes
out, this box will resolve if there is any sort of gay, alright?
So that's it, let me go and look at this here, and alright, let's go with something gay in
the middle right okay so let me think
besides this new what's this year new
six-month pass and mount dude that's not
exciting enough that's definitely not
exciting enough I can even join I don't
know if I want to join in for for
watching was not but I'll join in the
discord channel and you know we'll we'll
do it just like we always have
starcraft new starcraft game okay new
Starcraft game. Okay, isn't it crazy Starcraft has so much motion that it automatically auto-corrected
into the correct capitalization for the game? Like, and it has so much motion that everybody
realizes including Microsoft that Blizzard doesn't? That's sad. So totally, yes, totally
new IP. Totally new IP that no one expected. Okay, um, dark portal opens. Okay, well, let
me see. All right. So a wow remake, a remake overwatch three. No, they're not going to
to do Overwatch 3. As funny as that is, they're not going to do Overwatch 3. So, a new disappointing
expansion. That's probably something gay. No, no, no. Let me think. Wow 2. Wow 2. Okay.
I don't know what that, what would that even mean? Like, what, what does this even mean?
I'm probably going to delete this one later on. Yeah, what is it? Diablo 5? Oh, Diablo
expansion announcement. I feel like this is all but confirmed, right? Like, I mean,
a Diablo expansion announcement, let's make this closer into the middle. We're gonna put it, like,
right here. I feel like this one is, like, an almost guarantee, right? So, yeah, let's go with that.
A new mobile game, new mobile game.
How's blizzard's record with mobile games? So Warcraft Rumble was a failure,
Diablo Immortal was a failure. Is that it? Hearthstone! True! Yeah, Hearthstone did really
well. I forgot all about that. So yeah, what is this? I find it. And yeah, Plunder Storm,
I guess that's nice, right? But we'll see how it goes.
Last Titan Cinematic. Last Titan Cinematic. I don't know what that means.
And Wad, Warlords of Draenor. Like, dude, if they remade Warlords of Draenor and they said,
we are going to make the game the way it should have been, and they add back Zangar Marsh,
they add in the Siege of Shatrath Raid, I would come back and play Classic Plus for that.
I would just as like a felt because like I felt like Warlord to Draenor
Was like it was the expansion that should have been like wow shu wad should have been
Like basically the content level of missa pandaria with the aura of burning crusade
It should have been that and it just didn't happen
They left out so much they did dude if you watch the videos about it, which like I obviously did
You know a TV show I like that a TV show
Yeah, I mean Fallout has a TV show, Borderlands had a movie, so they have to do it.
So a Warcraft anime, well that would be a TV show or something like that, right?
Diablo 1 upscaled, Diablo 1.
Uh, yeah, okay, alright, we'll add that.
Diablo 1 something, I remember Act Man wanted me to play Diablo, uh, Diablo 1.
And he was like, oh you should try this out, like the game's actually like super good if
if you play it with like this mod.
I never did, I felt bad about that, I used to do that.
I never played Diablo 2 either.
You guys really want it, don't you?
Okay, let's put it on there.
Why not?
Warcraft 4.
By the way, this is my dream, okay?
I wanna tell you my dream and we'll see if it happens.
Probably won't.
My dream is that Blizzard says that after the trilogy of expansions that they're making,
they're going to announce that WoW is basically over, Warcraft IV is coming out,
and it's going to be a time skip of like, you know, either dozens of years or hundreds of years or thousands of years,
and then they are going to make WoW too, right?
Everything gets reset. It's Azeroth kind of right, but everything is reset. Everything has changed
Like that I would love to say that that is my that's my dream. That's what I want to see a recoping hard. Hell. Yeah
Hell, yeah, we're coping hard
And it's a communism realm. Yeah
Well TCG is coming back not hearstown. Oh my god
Like I feel like there are too many trading card games now like too many people were getting involved in them and
And like there's the one-piece trading card game now and like it you know Pokemon is huge again
So I don't know mobile housing. I don't think people really care a lot about that. Okay, let's see
Let's see the other ones. All right, Diablo glint. Here's the storm to a Titan forge server. Yeah. Yeah, that's a great one
Like China
Okay, so China has this server. It's kind of like a
What do you call it? It's kind of like trying to think like what I had to explain it
But like it's like a kind of like a classic plus and like just kind of like a wow with all the bells and whistles type stuff and
You know like that's it
Warcraft 40k, I don't know about that a new store thing add AI slop
I don't think that really matters. I don't think people care about that cringe millennial joke
I mean, that's probably that could just be the middle square, right? I mean, let's be honest
anything StarCraft related. Yeah, I mean, I think that a lot of people are expecting a new StarCraft game right a lot of people are a celebrity appearance.
Let me a number crunch. No, no, let's get a console. Yeah, we have while console while Xbox release everything else is really pretty much in there.
Okay, how about let's let's do a funny one annoying person disrupts the event. How about that? We're just going to add that in there. I feel like these usually happen at BlizzCon.
And this will resolve if we have any kind of well, I mean honest. It's pretty pretty obvious of what it resolved and
Red shirt grow a guy. Yeah, I mean like maybe right Xbox CEO speech
They're bringing an ash of Sharma that'd be really funny. So
Yeah, I mean Xbox. Yeah
Xbox speech
Actually, it'd be really funny
Xbox, you know exact speech
Yeah, I think that would be that's that's actually I feel like that one's pretty likely I'm gonna put that one like right here
Something woke I we already have something gay and so I don't think we need to we need to have like double jeopardy there
I think it should be fine. Here's of the storm shut down. I don't think people really care about here's of the storm
I don't really think so and
Yeah, terrible shirt girl. I don't even know who that is
so
Chris metson. Yeah, I feel like yeah, we'll put him up there
Okay
There it is overwatch character. Yeah, it's a good idea
New overwatch character
Okay, I feel like this one's like really really likely right I mean like this is like a highly highly likely thing
So, okay, besides that a new engine that would be a lot
Xbox anniversary or expo anniversary for bozard crowd booing. I mean that's disrupting a person disrupting
Like I feel I don't think the crowd is gonna boo really like it's like it
Can you imagine if that happened if they had another?
It's really funny to go back and think about how bad Diablo mortal was isn't it like I remember whenever they announced it
I was just like, okay, well, I guess they're gonna do like a Diablo mobile game. Okay, whatever
But then like I know some people like well, they let everybody to believe that I think the problem is everybody thought that like this
Was gonna be some kind of crazy big thing and yeah, I cell phone yet. Yeah Diablo immortal joke
Is this too much
Because like I feel like they should just do this. Like do you think that they
would do this? No it's perfect. They won't. I feel like they wouldn't either
honestly. Yeah I mean no. I don't think so either. What sword joke? That was like
two years ago right? I mean I I think that all right let's come up with
something better wow plus fortnite blizzard oh yeah yeah blizzard yeah collab with another company
okay that's a good idea yeah uh that could be announced as well i could easily see that
yeah sure let's put that in there and okay single player base game that's a totally new ip that no
expected. Let me think besides that, hmm, new game? I don't know about that.
Blizzard Dev Departure. They're not going to announce the departure of a developer at the
Epiliskon, right? It's just not going to happen. Like, it's just like that would be like really
weird for them to do that. I don't think that would happen. And so, hardcore TBC, I mean like maybe
anniversary mobile studio partnership lost Vikings remake okay let's do that
sure why not I feel like what I actually had lost Vikings on my super
Nintendo I love that game I thought it was really fun and only thanks collab
maybe I mean I think that'd be crazy if that happened it really would be so we'll
see. Um, while mobile cash shop announcement, uh, while vanilla mobile. Uh, okay, let's
see. Wow. On game pass. That's huge. That would be ridiculous. I feel like if while
one on game pass, uh, that would mean that like World of Warcraft is in for a very good
time. Like that, that would be probably the best investment the Blizzard could ever make.
Uh, or like that they could ever make that would like guarantee you that like, oh, well,
know they're in this for the long haul. Warcraft 1 and 2 remakes. I don't think
they're gonna do that. I mean they just did a remaster so like I don't really
think that's gonna happen. Like they remastered Warcraft 2 because I went
back and I played it semi-recently. Remember like I don't know when that was
but it was like kind of recent. Yeah they already did that. I don't know about
Warcraft 1. I didn't really play that. Warcraft 3, 3.0. No they already did that
before are they really just moving around doing nothing yeah they are Jesus
something to appeal to nostalgia that's the entire that's the entire event let's
be honest
Merlach based Farmville yeah okay we could add a new single-player game yeah
let's let's actually add that okay here's the storm return maybe
Diablo movie. Zario and Ziko already leaking shit. Look guys, you're not going to get anything
from me. You're not getting anything from me. I'm going to sit here. I'm going to be
a good boy. I ain't going to say nothing. Let's see. Anduin grows a pair. Yeah. Yeah.
An expansion thing where Anduin's not a massive bitch. That'd be great. Okay. Let's see here.
You're Illidan?
Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna put Illidan as his own, yeah, Illidan.
I feel like this is gonna happen, by the way.
I feel like at the end of the third expansion,
or like for the third expansion,
they're gonna bring back Illidan.
I feel like it has to happen, pretty much.
Chromie mentioned.
I don't think they're probably gonna mention Chromie.
I mean, maybe, I don't know.
You're saying that because like they,
I don't even know why they say like Chromie's trans.
Like if you transform into a male dragon,
doesn't mean that you're trying. I don't know it's fucking retarded. But anyway, um, a merch drop? Well,
there, I mean, that's categorical. I mean, of course, they're gonna have a merch drop. I mean,
it's, it's, that's a default. And yeah, let's see here, something gay, also something manly. Well,
I don't know if that Wow is going free to play. There's no way they're gonna make Wow free to play.
Like 0% chance. A mention of Arthas. Well, I think that really depends on what the announcements
are right like if they do an announcement for like a big thing that I think you could see them
mention Arthas or something like if it's like a new Warcraft 3 thing but like if not then I feel
like it's definitely not going to happen. Activision game Azeroth based large language model oh that
would be really funny yeah if like they did a like an April Fools thing where they're like yeah we're
we're adding in our own LLM.
It's like Orcish and Elvish.
Classic Plus is a prequel.
Well, we're gonna have to find out and wait and see.
And Missa Pandaria transfers to retail, oh my God.
And Extraction Mode, they kind of had that with Plunderstorm,
but I don't know if they really should go all the way
with it, I feel like they shouldn't.
Yeah, Celebrity Cameo.
Okay, and let me just, I'm gonna add the last two myself.
Let me just think about what I feel like they're going to add and do.
Starcraft Helldivers.
That's like a collab.
Well, we already have two of these already in there, so I'm not going to add that again.
Let's see, besides this, what else do I want to see them add?
Hmm.
Kojima shows up.
That would be really funny, but I don't think that's going to happen, obviously.
Some silly streamer thing.
Maybe I mean I I know those people that are streaming at Warcraft, right a new wow classic commercial like the classic one
Yeah, yeah a new wow classic commercial
Yeah, that should be fine, okay, and we've got one more box one final box
Jeff Kaplan returns there's no way he's making his own game okay um oh man this is tough
Overwatch PDE dude that's not gonna happen it's not a plushie announcement I don't think so
Announcing a new class in a while. I feel like that would come with an expansion, right?
I don't think that would really be too big of a surprise.
Charlie Kirk Memorial. I don't think they're gonna do that. Pretty sure they're not.
Warcraft Casino. A Warcraft gambling thing. That actually would be really funny.
They delete the lead amount of race and wow. That'd be a good idea. Yeah, it'd be great
Wow, I shrades. Oh, I like that and Henry Cavill Warcraft series. That's a TV show. I have that that's category that that's in a category
Okay, two pride months. Oh, that's a good idea. Yeah, so it's like one month isn't enough for them that that too
It's like in 20 years every month is gonna be pride month except for like one month
Minute plus plus free to play. Wow. Okay. Yeah. Wow free to play
Yeah, I think we'll put that one in here.
I don't have any like really really crazy expectations in terms of like, you know, unique things to each game.
So it just really kind of depends.
But I guess we'll find out.
I don't know.
20 years is going to be a straight month.
Yeah, I mean, I guess so.
And yeah, battle passes.
Well, they kind of have that now with the Warcraft.
Like, what's that thing that they do every month?
uh, where they have people like that are able to like you do things.
I forgot even what it was called, where you get your, oh, Trader's Tender.
Yeah, your attendees.
The Trading Post.
The Trading Post is basically a battle pass.
I actually think it's really well implemented personally.
Think you did a great job with it.
Are they really not even going to have a countdown for it?
Usually whenever they're going to do a big event like this,
they have a countdown ahead of time.
I'm surprised they don't have a countdown and they just have these random
people sitting around talking.
I'm actually quite surprised by that. I wonder if they're gonna you know, it's against in 15 minutes
Oh, yeah, you're right. It could be a 15 minute countdown that could definitely be it. I
Wonder how many people how many people are like watching it like let me see
It looks like
Not a heat not it. I mean like yeah, okay. I mean no no, okay. Yeah, there you go
Yeah, they definitely have. Okay, that's actually a pretty good amount then. Okay. I was curious about it
But yeah, it seems pretty substantial. All right
No ADK fats and balds. Yeah, sure, but I'm just glad that I'm glad it's doing well obviously
You know, I don't think it's gonna be like it was, you know back in the day
But you know, it's still doing well enough. I would say I
Saw a tally us in an avatel in the room. It's a content creator room for content creators. Oh really? I
That's funny, because I don't know any of these people.
I don't know a single one of these people that are here.
Now check YouTube.
Oh, I have it on YouTube right here.
YouTube, the amount of people watching
is like much more minimal.
It's not as many people watching.
Summer voice actors.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, that's probably why I don't recognize them.
Cover other stuff meanwhile.
No, I'm just gonna do this.
I don't like, in general, I don't like kind of switching back and forth from things.
I like kind of just focusing on one topic and then kind of moving to another topic after that.
Old guy, Ryan Hart is, I think, oh right. Well, I mean, I think that he's always been on, right?
They'll introduce workers showing for retail housing.
Well, I don't know. I think classic plus they should have housing.
I do. Like maybe that's a hot take, but I think like giving players like their own
player housing in Classic Plus would be pretty cool. It would just have to be totally separate
and it would be like its own meta. So, you know, like again, like, no fuck no. Well,
I don't see why not. Like it's hot take. I don't know. I feel like that kind of guild
housing, maybe guild housing would be cooler. I mean, if you want to compromise and say like
a guild housing instead of like player housing, I think that'd be fine too. Yeah. But anywhere
in the game.
maybe right i think that would probably like fill up the the world right no be like annoying
so i don't know if people would really like that a whole lot
what is blizzcon exactly it is a big announcement of all of the updates new games and everything
for blizzard so we'll see what's gonna happen it kills the cities that's a good point man yeah
you're right about that no housing because you want everybody in cities and not instances
to be dead like wad yeah that's a good point yeah i never i mean that's probably true actually
i remember like you'd have to like make it to where like you can't join channels whenever
you're in your housing or something like that wow in the warcraft 3 story universe um
i mean they kind of had that at the very beginning right i mean that that was like
classic wow really was wow in the warcraft 3 story universe like it was a continuation of
Warcraft 3 and so yeah, I feel like they already had that before you still need to go into the city in retail and we have housing
Yeah, I mean like I don't know about me so well actually like I don't know how popular we're going into cities are nowadays
I have no idea. I don't see anything about Starcraft or your bingo sheet. I haven't yet. It's on there. It's on the top
You started so early as fuck today
Well, I wanted to make sure I was on for the event right because the event happened
And it happens way earlier than I usually go live, so I had to do it.
Tarot cards?
Yeah, yeah, that's a good idea.
Dream catchers?
Yeah, that's a good idea.
Maybe they're going to start and it's going to be a bunch of women on stage talking about
how Lindsey Clancy didn't kill her kid.
Surely that's going to be it.
What's this here?
The old phone?
Well, that's an old computer.
I mean honestly the first time I played Warcraft was on a computer like that
It was like I had a I had a big computer a big like CRT monitor computer like that. It was amazing
Where's a span he's probably streaming it then
What do you expect from blizzcon this year I expect a lot of really big things
I expect that there's gonna be a lot of really cool really big things and I think that it's gonna be super fun to watch
What are you watching on stream right now?
Honestly, I wish I knew.
I do.
I wish I knew.
McConnell, I don't know, I'd have to message him and see if he's out here.
I joined the discord but he might not even know.
I see.
I'm cross.
I'm not a message.
Alright, I'm going to go back to my room.
Okay.
That's a joke.
Alright, he's probably asleep, man.
I assume he's probably asleep, but I mean, who knows?
I guess we'll find out really soon.
So yeah, I don't know.
Nintendo Switch 2 is the sponsor.
I mean, I'm a big fan of having everything on all platforms, right?
Like I want to have any game that's on all platforms.
Like, the old man, he's probably slept through it, right?
on me is like blizzcon oh my god right i mean we're old now and uh when you drop the green screen
and reveal your blizzcon dude i i don't even know if they let me go to blizzcon like they're probably
so mad at me like not even i mentioned like all my my political takes on things like blizzards
like definitely a woke company but like it's like everything that i've said about their games over
the years even the first time that we even went on blizzcon i remember like it was almost a it was
It was kind of like a hit and run, the fact that we were able to get on stage the first
year of BlizzCon, because like, you know, I heard later on, a lot of people were not
really even aware of that happening, until it already happened.
So yeah, that was weird, probably just normies, I don't know, man.
And yeah, wow, contributors owe everything to you, dude, seriously, you're like a wild
pioneer on Twitch, I'm not, I just, I played the game and you know, I streamed it for a
a long time, but I would say that really the pioneers for streaming WoW were
Wreckfoot and Chance and Mitch, right? I would say that like the way that I
streamed WoW was like a lot different than, you know, the way that like other
people like, you know, other people did. Like, yeah, Swiftie, yeah, Swiftie, like
that's another really big one. I didn't think of Swiftie, but you're right. Yeah,
and so that's really what I would have got. Yeah, Tauly even, right? I mean, I
The first time I was ever on a Twitch stream was on Tauly Stream.
Like literally in 2000 and I can tell this by the raid that I was doing.
It was in 2012.
Yeah, because I remember it was during Dragon Soul because we did Fire Lines.
It might actually have been 2011, but you know, it was one or the other.
I mean like he I mean like he didn't really make a lot of content the same way that Swifty
did though right like Cungan was really popular on Twitch but like Swifty and Athene were
like the two main guys like whenever I first started making content I was like who do I
want to be like and the three guys that I was like these are the people that I think
the most entertaining and the best are Wreckful, Creperian, and Daphine. That was it. Those were
the three guys that I was like, these dudes are so funny. Like they're the best, right? The OGs? Yeah.
Pajira? I feel like Pajira, like he started in like Cataclysm. Like he didn't go on for quite a
while. Crip got me in the PoE. He did. He got me in the PoE too. The PoE as well. I could make that
a little bit more...Athene is banned in your chat. Yeah, we had a bot problem where people kept
spamming about Athene. I don't know really why that happened. That's why it got banned.
Didn't Athene turn to be an activist Psyop? I don't know really. I mean, I think that there's
definitely a lot of weird stuff with him now, but I don't really want to...like, the stuff that
happen with Athenae nowadays, like I don't even really know or care about that, honestly.
The only thing that I really care about is like, I just remember watching the old videos
and I thought they were really funny.
That was it, like I, I mean, I don't need, like, there's a cult or like some fucking
middle asylum that they have people living at, like, I don't want to get involved in
any of that.
Like, what the hell is this?
Your hair looks really good tonight, thank you metaphors, I appreciate it, thank you man.
It's good to see you, new and yeah, the amount of hours I watch grip play Harstem was unhealthy
at best.
I used to watch Creperian every single night.
I would.
He was probably like, if I was going to look at the streamer that I watched the most over
all the years, Creperian definitely would be number one.
Like it would not even be close because I've watched him originally whenever he made WoW
videos and then I think he streamed WoW a little bit and then he moved over to Diablo
3.
Then it was like, I mean, if you were a Diablo 3 player, you were watching Creperian, man.
You were.
And then he moved to PoE, and then I started watching him play PoE.
His wrath video is so sick, yeah.
It's the reason I got top 10 legend.
Yeah, that's nuts.
His barbarian videos are the best.
I remember I watched him beat.
I didn't watch...
I feel bad.
I didn't watch him beating Inferno Diablo, like Inferno Diablo Hardcore.
I never got a chance to watch that.
All the other ones I watched, but I didn't see that one, because honestly I felt like
Quinn 69 during D3.
Do you remember whenever Quinn 69, he, what do you call it?
When Quinn 69 was only using a black and white filter, there's no way it's going to focus
sit on that right? Oh it is. It's Thunder Fury. I told you guys it was the one of the
most iconic ones, bro. It was. Man.
What was this here? And uh, yeah I fucking hate this. I really hate to pay me no money
because this is the music video. I honestly don't hold any grudge over that. I don't care
about that at all like other people obviously are bothered by it but like I never really gave a
shit honestly um I'm sorry to say I just didn't really care but um anyway yeah and as I still have
appearance I feel like it has to be like a like you know somebody like Kevin Hart or like The Rock
or somebody right and uh you know maybe like a fucking uh I don't know like Post Malone I don't
I don't know.
And, uh, somebody say Thunderfury.
Well, those are the days, man.
And, uh, I remember people would link that shit all the time.
What happened to Mortal Shell 2?
I beat it.
Well, I didn't actually beat it.
I got to the end of it, and I was able to just, like, do a spam thing.
And, uh, he's more of a Virtue of Sigmore.
Oh, he's a total Virtue of Sigmore.
He absolutely is.
It's 100% he is.
But, you know, that's just what people like that do.
Pedro, yeah, Pedro Pascal comes out as Thrall, right?
Yeah, something like that.
We play WoW now instead of politics. What do you think?
Absolutely not.
Like, I mean, I'll play WoW sometimes, but like, I don't ever, I don't ever want to go back.
So this is the reason, like, that's, it's one of the reasons why I never did like only fangs or anything either, is that, um, I just...
Yeah, I mean, like, I like playing the game, but the problem is, like, if you only play WoW, the people that watch WoW are not gamers.
They're WoW players.
So if you're making content for WoW players and you do anything other than WoW, they have zero interest in it.
So that's why, for example, so many WoW streamers have tried really hard to, like, move out of the section
and to make other types of content. And the success stories, I would say, are me, Chance, Mitch,
Bellular, Lazy Pion, Mike Preach-Wow, I'd say that's another one, Annie Fuchsia, Esfand, Nick,
yep, Nick is another one, and but I would say overall, I would say Zaryu and Pikkaboo were
still very much known as wild streamers, like I would not say that they've separated their
identity from the game in the same way that the other people on that list have.
And that's not a negative thing.
It's just, I think that's just like my analysis as a streamer, right?
So it's Matt Mercer.
What is? Oh, shit, a five minute timer.
Oh, my God. All righty, boys.
Oh, boy, oh, boy.
See how this goes.
What about Tally Eson, your favorite?
How's he doing nowadays, anyway?
How's he doing?
Does he still make YouTube videos?
Yeah, yeah, what was he ever up to?
I was here, yeah, Eastcock, is he? I don't know about that.
And, uh, he's got kids, yeah, good for him.
Do you remember, like, whenever he... I remember very clearly...
I was reacting to a video that he made negative about me,
And he was talking shit about me and he looked down and he's balding at the top of his head's balding
And I paused the video where he was balding and then I went on like a 10 minute man monologue about why he was dumb and
Everybody in the chat was spamming that he was bald right like it was
fucking thing to be
I tried to pretend like that's not what I was doing right, but that was 100% what I was doing your feeds delayed by 25 seconds
Okay, well I'll refresh it right now
Yeah, um, let me go and play that speed, yeah, and it should automatically fix, right?
And that way we can be, you know, just as, uh, as, as on time as possible.
Okay.
Uh, all right, we're good.
gentlemen it's blissful on time I'm excited I'm very excited we're in the
future boys yep bro we just fast forwarded that shit you guys ready
C++? Yeah.
Why are you not there? I didn't want to go.
Yeah, I was interested in going. I was going for 20 minutes. Can you show the bingo board?
Yeah, sure. Give me a second. There's the bingo board right there.
All the streamers there are having problems with Blizzard stuff?
stuff? Yeah, I expected that. I did. I don't think that's a big surprise. What's the most
popular blizzcon you think? Probably either 2017 or 18. Those were really, really big.
And those were the two years that I went because 17 was big because of Classic WoW and 18 was
big because of the hype, like leading up to Classic WoW. So I feel like it probably be
one or the other.
It's an out-of-season April Fool's joke.
Yeah, well, everybody's there to see a strength camera announcement?
Well, I've got it.
I think it should be fine.
I'm going to keep it like this.
If it gets in the way of something, I'll move it.
It was a pandemic for you, brother.
I mean, well, they didn't have BlizzCon then, right?
Because they didn't want to have people like ball in the same room together.
A new Starcraft game would kill the MOBAs.
That's really funny that you think that.
People are so invested into League and Dota, they've played these games for like 15 years now.
They're not going to stop playing them overnight.
It's just the way it is.
How about a new Starfield game? Yeah, Starfield and Starcraft collab.
I want to see a theme at BlizzCon. It would be funny if they brought a theme to BlizzCon.
And he comes in as a robe as an actual cold leader.
Any announcers like some kind of crazy shit, that would be really really cool
They just play both MOBAs. I don't think you really could man
Yeah, I feel like you you wouldn't even be able to like if you want to be really good at the game
I feel like you have to mainline that game
All righty boys
Viewer discretion advised on that
There it is.
I'm going to turn it up a little bit more.
It's got to be Chris Metzen that comes out, right?
It has to be Chris Metzen.
Whoa.
Those con.
I wish the Abel 4 was better.
The cinematics were cool.
Yeah, dude, they have to announce a new Diablo 4 expansion.
Is the volume good? Louder? Okay, let me get a little bit louder.
Alright. This good? That's good? Great.
What's McCree's new name again?
I only remember...
Oh, this is Starcraft!
Oh boy!
It's about time? Yeah.
It's like there's no way, right?
I hope it's good.
Welcome!
Come warm your frozen feet by the night!
Hearthstone!
Oh wow!
You know I never play Hearthstone.
Not even a single game ever.
Powercraft of a moan? That would be cool.
Someone is calling out from the heart of the world.
Dude, I wish they made bigger and bigger on an athelius.
I always thought that I thought an athelius was so cool.
The Illidan? No, it has to be New Illidan. Not a cinematic of Illidan from Burning Crusade.
Okay.
Please welcome Johanna Farris.
She's the impressive of the Blizzard.
Alright. She gonna announce it?
Hello, BlizzCon 2026.
Unbelievable energy in here, wow.
And the long and winding roads that have led us to today.
What a special moment for all of us.
And a chance to gather around the games, the universes,
the bonds that continue to inspire our work,
our friendships, and our lives.
On behalf of everyone at Blizzard, thank you for being here.
And whether you're here in person with us in Anaheim
or tuning in from all over the globe,
I have to say it is deeply moving to look out and see what I see.
And to be together again in this particular way.
Now, this is by no means my first BlizzCon,
but it is my first one standing on this stage in this capacity.
Yeah, I'd be nervous, too.
Yeah.
And I have to say, this is a good-looking crowd.
What a beautiful sight to behold, gorgeous souls all over Anaheim,
and in this convention center,
shailing from every corner of the globe.
So many different stories behind why you are here to gather as one.
For content.
And personally, it is deeply inspiring.
It is an honor.
And it is a moment that I will hold in my heart forever.
Now we all have our reasons for being here.
And BlizzCon and Blizzard is often a very personal thing.
Yeah.
It's certainly personal for me,
given the role that video games have played in my life since I was very young,
and given how deeply and strongly I feel about Blizzard's role in the world.
As a beacon of creativity,
as a place where lives can change and are changed often on the daily.
So whatever your reasons are for coming to BlizzCon 2026,
My hope is that this weekend can serve as a kind of oasis.
I mean, to be very clear, we also wanted to be a big old party.
CHEERS
APPLAUSE
But an oasis, too.
A place for us to connect and reconnect,
perhaps to heal,
perhaps to be seen,
to be better understood,
certainly to nerd out together.
How long is this gonna go on? Can we just get to the announcements, please?
So this is your invitation to come as you are, to have a blast, and to truly make legendary
memories together with us. Now it's been a while since the last time we had BlizzCon.
We're aware. And bringing this one to life has taken blood, sweat, tears, and a whole
a whole lot of love.
And A.I. too, right?
Have been working so very hard to make this an event
that can inspire as much as it can inform.
And speaking of my teammates, if you will allow me
to say this while I have the chance.
Glaze Xbox.
I love you.
Glaze Xbox.
Your creative spark, your world.
Thank you for saving us.
your gentle genius, as I like to say,
that makes Blizzard so unique in the world.
Thank you.
CHEERING
Yeah.
And to everyone here making BlizzCon what it is,
thank you for fostering more joy in the world,
even when times are tough,
and you're not alone in making BlizzCon what it is.
Thank you for fostering more joy in the world,
in the world, even when times can be tough. And I know that they are tough.
Even when we might be carrying so much, sometimes unseen or unspoken, it makes it
all the more significant to come together in this way and to join us in the
journey of dreaming bigger and for pushing what's possible.
Do we have to pay for this therapy session or is it for me?
I do have to say, is jam-packed with goodness.
Great.
But...
That's what I was hoping for.
I also have to admit that there is so much going on
at Blizzard right now,
we couldn't even fit it into this weekend if we try it.
Okay.
And I'm pretty proud of that too.
So as the devs take the stage today,
show them some love, y'all.
It's hard to get up on the stages.
And you'll be hearing things that are near and dear to our hearts,
including something near and dear to mine in this first announcement.
What is it?
Fun fact, when we first started planning BlizzCon way back when,
I flat out told the team, I'm not going.
I'll cut the check, but I'm not going unless we have something real
to share about this game in particular.
It better be worth a look at.
So very happy, and I'm here, to be able to share.
Come on.
Something.
Please.
Straight from the nexus of our hearts.
Oh, shit.
What is this?
Is that what, that's Heroes of the Storm.
That's Liora.
Wait, what?
Wait.
Wait, wait, what the fuck?
They're remaking heroes of the storm.
No.
I thought they ended this game.
What is this? Heroes of the Storm?
What does that even mean?
That's right.
What does it mean?
Storm is pleased to welcome Zalatath. She will officially be coming to the game later
this month, and she'll be available on the PTR starting this Monday. Those of you here
in Anaheim will be able to play her all-time long in the Blizzard Arcade.
Wait, what? I thought development stopped. Yeah, all the POTS players out there.
Oh, she picked the number up for the amount of them there are.
I hear you, I see you.
Yeah, that's good.
Thank you for believing in this game, for carrying the torch, and for reminding us sometimes
very loudly what this game means to you.
And who knows?
We might even have another new hero on the way in the near future.
I don't understand.
So stay tuned.
Why would you?
And you will see you in the Nexus.
Yeah.
I thought they meant like a Nexus because that's what, like, Starcraft, like, isn't that what...
Now, secondly, for decades, we've brought entire universes to life through our games.
That's what I thought it was.
But the stories within them have never belonged to just one medium.
And there are still so many stories we want to tell.
Uh-huh.
And we thought it was time we brought those stories to life beyond gaming in a big way.
We're getting it. Perhaps on new screens. What screen? After all, show the fucking trailer than just Blizzard game show the trailer are Blizzard entertainment. Just show it. Show the trailer. I'm sick of this.
this. And in that vein, we've been working very hard. Oh my God, the absolute best creative
partnerships to tell even more stories. Right. So while exciting things are underway across
all of our biggest universes today, we are happy to announce one project in particular.
It's Diablo. Amazing. Awesome. Is it going to be Aramae? Is it going to be live action? What's it going to be?
Very cool.
That's a bingo.
We are thrilled to share that we are in development on a new animated series for Diablo.
Fucking base. That's awesome. It better be good.
With Netflix.
Better be good.
And as a big Diablo player myself,
and as someone who loves the indulgent darkness of sanctuary,
I am very excited to see this project come to life.
Yeah.
And Diablo, I promise, is just the beginning.
To our Overwatch community.
But we already have plenty of Overwatch movies.
To our Warcraft community.
Yeah, we have the Warcraft movie too.
And who knows, perhaps even some of our other universes just know that there are great discussions
being had.
And trust me, while I begged and I pleaded to be able to share more today, I can't spill
the beans just yet.
But I know.
I promise, as soon as we can, we will share more details with you.
All right, before I pass the mic, I just want to say,
I thank you again to everyone here making these memories alongside us.
And my hope is that BlizzCon can feel like a sacred space, where you can enjoy, you can
make lasting bonds, and make this place in this community feel like home.
Beyond that, my hope is that in our coming together in this way, we can remind the world
Why community like this matters so very much?
Can you imagine how long a meeting with her must be?
Why artistry matters.
Why creativity matters.
Can you imagine this like?
And why making games and playing games together will matter always.
I feel like four hours.
Thank you everyone. Have a wonderful close-up.
I mean, she seems like a nice lady, but my god damn, wrap it up.
I don't want to be an asshole, right?
She seemed very nice, but man, let's get this on the road.
28 years ago, I saw a very specific lizard cinematic, and it changed the course of my life.
What was it?
the danger and the mystery, and I knew exactly what I wanted to do.
28 years ago, it's probably to walk off too, right?
So, I sent my first demo reel and resume off to Blizzard Entertainment right here.
Not just because I wanted a job, but because I wanted to be part of something.
I wanted to be part of this, this community, the building of these worlds, a part of this
thing that we all love.
Blizzard wasn't just a company to me, it was the dream.
It was.
Back in the day, it was.
Sent out a letter.
It's true.
I waited for days, I waited for weeks.
And then one day, I got a letter back.
I remember the weight of it in my hands.
I remember opening it. I remember the font.
I remember the blue logo at the top of the page.
And I saw those first words.
Like Hogwarts?
And I read, unfortunately, both.
At this time, we were unable to.
And I knew that was it.
It wasn't going to happen.
Yeah.
But that's the funny thing about dreams.
Dreams, dreams don't die, dreams don't fade, dreams are patient, dreams wait.
So I waited, for the next 25 years I made very cool games, I worked with incredible
people, I built things I'm truly proud of.
Who's this guy?
But in the back of my mind always there was this one thought, one day Blizzard, one day.
You better be good.
Men.
I looked down and I saw the name Blizzard Entertainment and bang, I was right back there, 25 years disappeared.
I was right back there in that moment, homie got an unopened letter and feeling that same moment.
And so I answered the phone and this time there was an opportunity.
This time there was an opportunity to assemble a team worthy of carrying the legacy of one of Blizzard's most beloved games.
And that team is here today.
Team, meet the world.
World, meet the team.
A team built with one purpose.
That's what it says.
That's what he's going to say next.
A team built with one purpose.
Guys, I read the total.
A team built with one goal.
To return to a universe forged in interstellar war.
And now we have fucking StarCraft.
This is something new, an open-world shooter where every step is earned, not from above,
down on the ground, in the mud, in the fire, honoring the past, its tone, its truth,
but with an opportunity to push beyond it.
We are here standing shoulder to shoulder with you.
We are here to reignite this universe alongside each and every one of you.
Show the trailer, Baldy.
And we're here to make Starcraft!
Show it! Oh my god!
Alright.
He built up to that, okay?
But let's be honest.
It's about damn time.
Alright.
The galaxy is harsh and on to gain.
Oh, shit.
And our enemies surround us.
He's with us.
Yeah, that was actually good, man.
Feel safe.
Swarm to return, to destroy our lands and slither our families.
Will you let them?
So bold, fierce, torn, judge us from their shadows.
Will you beg them for salvation?
So bold, you're a good guy.
I checked out people.
Will you flee?
Oh, where do we go? Fight!
Fight!
Then let's begin.
You are the best and brightest the Dominion has to offer.
You are stingin' him!
You are unstoppable!
What the fuck?
You can't get stuck out of this world, you are warriors, you are the elite.
And the community will give you the training, the tools, and the opportunity to feed your
your spirit and fulfill your destiny!
I'm gonna be real, this is the greatest fighting force the sector has ever seen.
You fight now for a cause that will echo through this...
I've seen it, yeah, I've seen it.
You fight now for mankind's very survival!
Is this the trailer?
Thanks.
Shit!
You will become more than just recruits.
You will become more than just soldiers.
Goddamn!
You will become heroes.
Now, no fault for the fury of the Dominion!
everything that I've heard about this by the way is fucking awesome I heard more
I
2030 if it is what I think it is my you'll see why God that that was insane
They didn't let me watch that until today, until right now.
Uh-huh.
This is pretty incredible.
Is that a rainbow shirt?
And there is so much more coming.
Really?
So let's get into it.
The world of Overwatch is so special to me and to this team.
It is a future full of hope, optimism, and bravery.
And at its core, it is a game about heroes.
They are the beating heart of everything we create.
We are releasing 10 new heroes this year.
That's a lot, right?
From someone as absolutely ridiculous as Jetpack Cat.
Yes.
That's the name of the jetpack, Hannah.
The someone whose connection to Doomfist could set something much bigger in motion.
Overwatch is gay, somebody said that in chat.
And you just got to see it.
Alright, let's see this.
Isla.
How is that your style, Hannah?
Uh-oh.
It's just Doomfist, alright?
It's got to be Doomfist.
It's gonna be good first.
Does he have a beard?
Oh, no. What's going on?
Have people supplied the hotrope?
I do think, I think Dufus is really cool.
I do. I think he's so cool.
You all know the plan.
Bring me the box.
Move quickly.
See you soon.
Let's go.
Uh-huh.
Look, we all know he's been out doing no fist lately.
But you're feeling smart too.
You should talk to him.
We'll talk later.
He's in there?
For now.
Sombra, what is your status?
I'm a thug.
I hate that character, bro.
Sombra was so fucking annoying, she probably caused a thousand people to get banned in my
chat.
Do you have the asset?
Just thought Megan would be mad.
I hate that bitch.
I hate that bitch.
I hate that bitch.
I hate that bitch.
I hate that bitch.
I hate that bitch.
I hate that bitch.
I hate that bitch.
I hate that bitch.
Oh, they're having PvE?
Guys, we're gonna have PvE to over one, it's a raid.
They're finally gonna do it.
Come on, come on, come on!
He played the adhesive tank in the game, so it makes sense that he would do that.
This is more accurate according to the way the game plays.
No.
I told you.
Believe this to me!
How are you gonna knock him down with a toothpick?
all right who's in the box
So I guess that.
Wait, what?
It's Snoop Dogg.
Imagine.
I would ask what brings you here, but clearly, you need a hand.
Oh, I like this guy.
I should have come here.
You're here, now!
You know, Overwatch years could have been so cool.
It really could have been.
It could have been so badass.
I don't know what happened.
The ninth hero joining Overwatch this year is Doctrine.
Doomfist's newest ally is a support hero armed with a scepter
that heals allies and damages enemies.
He can rush through battle, shrouded in darkness,
call his drones, heal teammates, and speed up their attacks.
Amazing.
What really sets doctrine apart is infuse,
which transforms his next ability.
Imagine not just dashing, but taking flight.
And who says vampires need to be creepy and overwatch?
They're cool.
And they come with mechanical bats.
You can learn all about doctrine in today's Deep Dive panel.
We are fired up for doctrine,
and he's coming next month in season five.
Well, that's to be honest,
what you all really want to know is when can you play him?
And if you're here at BlizzCon, the answer is, right now.
CHEERS AND APPLAUSE
And if you're viewing this at home,
Doctrine's Hero trial will start as soon as we finish talking.
Earlier this year, we kicked off the first year-long narrative
in Overwatch history.
That story has already taken some exciting turns,
so we should probably get you caught up on what's going on
And why we just watched Doomfist break into a prison.
Miranda, our narrative lead is going to break it all down for you.
So personally, I am still freaking out over the heroes of the storm news.
Huge, huge shout out to the gall mains of the audience.
I know you're out there, but I'm going to walk in and try to give you guys a good recap.
So at the top of this year,
Vendetta challenged Doomfist for control of Talon.
And after a tough fight, she defeated and presumably killed him, presumably, allegedly.
And then she says, hey, enough with all this hiding in the shadows nonsense.
Talon is going to take over the world.
After a little pit stop to blow up, she kicked off her big global conquest.
She raided Watchpoint brand Mesa, she allied with the Hashimoto clan in Japan,
and she even got the Junkers to attack Busan.
She left all of these messes for Overwatch to handle while she kept claiming victory after victory after victory Wow
However, it turns out in the background of all of this that doomfist
What happens alive?
I was also shocked. I was very surprised
If you ignore the part where his arm got cut off and he got thrown out a window
Because he's in the game and after a little bit of introspection after
regrouping with his favorite girlies. He's back. He's far more or at the end of the house.
And if he wants to get back on top, he's going to need a hand from a figure of his past,
Doctrin. And I think that just about gets us caught up.
And if you've been waiting for the right time to come back to Overwatch, Season 5 was built for you.
We have a new map, Room Spotting, a new hero, Doctrine.
We have the return of Doki Watch.
We have Unvaulted Battle Passes.
And we have two of the most requested hero reworks ever.
Or should we say, re-reworks?
LAUGHTER
Robert Hogg will now actually be able to help out his team.
Plus, this hook and instant death combo should be a lot less frustrating to play against.
No!
And Sombra, as you see, her own hotfix, turning her into a support.
Everyone here will get to play these reworks as well as new mafdoms, all weekend.
Season 5 will also see the conclusion of the reign of talent story.
Then in season 6, we will release our 10th hero of the year, who's investigating certain
parts of the world, certain sectors of the world, you could say.
But we're going to keep quiet on any more clues about him just yet.
Can you imagine how cool this would be if he's born with this universe?
This is my first ever experience of him, and it is amazing to be here with all of you.
And I love what we do.
Yeah.
do something that's really important for the world.
People need a place to come together,
to be with friends, to get connected to community.
And being here with all of you in person
is incredibly inspirational for me.
Yes.
Speaking of inspiration, we have an amazing lineup
here at BlizzCon.
We're thrilled to have Yoah Sobi performing
tomorrow during the Overwatch World Cup.
Yeah, who's that?
We are also so hyped to have Leseraphim back at BlizzCon
to close out the new game.
Those looks like a k-pop.
And to celebrate their return to BlizzCon,
we also have an all-new in-game collaboration,
and it's available starting right now.
But that's not all.
Leseraphim will also be joining Devs later today
to talk about the collaboration and their newest music
video, Made Night Night.
And in addition to awesome game demos
and all these talented musical acts,
there's something that I'm personally really excited about.
What is it?
Tomorrow, right here on this stage,
we're doing something that is completely new.
What is it?
It's a live Overwatch tabletop RPG
what?
Called Questwatch.
And it was written by Matt Mercer
and the Overwatch narrative team.
What?
your Game Master, guiding a group of heroes, including Symmetra, Sombra, Reinhardt, and
Vendetta, through a one-of-a-kind story that was built just for this weekend.
Now, I love tabletop gaming, I'm aspiring, game master myself, and I'm definitely going
to be in the audience with all of you.
What is wrong with you?
What are you doing?
I think a lot about what makes Overwatch special, and at the heart of it is our vision
of a hopeful future.
Really? I thought everybody's dying.
Toward that, and following QuestWatch will be auctioning off
custom miniatures, artwork, collectibles,
this jacket created by members of the team,
and signed by developers and voice actors,
all supporting Make-A-Wish.
So we did the freedom offering?
Oh. I didn't know that.
I have a personal connection with Make-A-Wish.
So to be able to partner with them, to raise money,
to help more families, the way they helped mine
is such a special gift.
Yeah, great.
This has been the biggest year in Overwatch's history.
And it all started at our 2026 Overwatch spotlight.
That's when we made our ambitions clear,
to be the best competitive experience in the world.
Whoever you are, wherever you are in the world,
however you play shooters,
we have an Overwatch hero that was built for you,
and we want to be the game for you.
Yeah, you just changed him.
And since we have-
He said you were gonna change love.
I have to sneak in one quick plug
for our next spotlight.
That's my guy.
With a new story, a fresh set of heroes
and some amazing new systems.
We are aiming for peak Overwatch.
peak overwatch overwatch is so incredibly special to us. I genuinely can't even begin to say
how much this game means to all of us. We can't thank all of you enough for all of the
passion, dedication and hope that you have shared with us for the past 10 years. Thank
Thank you so much and have a great blizzcon.
I bought it.
I thought I could color it black, and I couldn't.
I never used it.
Now what?
Terror.
It's Diablo! It's Diablo!
Patriots.
Alright guys, lock in.
For 30 years, we've all has gripped millions of people across the world.
Yeah.
It may already be closer than you think.
Over 130 million of us have made sanctuary our home.
I stood against the forces of hell.
Side by side.
Generation after generation.
Through friendships and fandom.
Whilst may and convention.
That was good.
From LAN parties to livestreams.
There are literally like two stumps.
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
They shared in every victory and defeat.
Oh.
And today, more of us than ever in two spots.
Where are your minions now, bitch?
I've never used enough lights so many times.
And evil never truly dies.
It always returns more powerful than before.
Thank you for 30 years. So does this mean you're not gonna come out with a game?
Wait a minute.
The world of Diablo.
Oh, Bale's on the screen.
Who's that guy on the far right?
What's up BlizzCon?
I absolutely love seeing all of you together like this.
I've been to every BlizzCon, my first few as a player, but for the Alliance.
That's the record, right?
I keep promise you weren't going to hurt my feelings on stage.
How about the Lord?
Who's the pudding?
Was there anyone else out there that has been to every BlizzCon?
No.
That's right, it's my family.
Alright, well back then I felt how much Blizzard's world meant to people.
Now that I helped build one of them, I feel it even more and that is really special.
Yeah, I know exactly how you feel.
When we were preparing for this, we had a lot of discussion about what 30 years looks like.
And for me, it was about sneaking upstairs when I was 16 years old to install Diablo 1.
Jesus, you're old, bro!
An computer that my mom brought home from school for the summer.
Holy fuck, this guy's old as shit!
Sorry mom. I didn't uninstall it. God damn. Yeah, well, I got the Diablo 2
18th birthday and pretty soon land parties doing bail runs and
Hunting for Stona Jordans all this you shut alone
It's been 30 years of slaying demons
Grinding for that perfect drop. Yeah, and saying one more dungeon
I used to have dreams about Diablo for me.
And I know all of you have crafted your own stories just like us.
I did, yeah.
Since 1996, more than 130 million players have helped shape Diablo into what it is today.
But, anniversaries aren't just about looking back.
There are chances to get excited about what's still ahead.
Thank you, alright, let's talk about that.
And after Johanna's announcement that a Diablo animated series is in development with Netflix,
Don't tell me that's the only thing.
I'd say the future is off to a pretty good. Don't tell me that's the only thing
And we've got a lot more to show you today. Okay, let's see
No, one of my favorite things about working with this team is they love a good surprise
What the hell is this friend is it a bow rug I have no idea what you're talking about
That's about like I said
We love a good surprise
We started the year off by shadow dropping the Paladin at the game awards
I never played that and then we followed up by bringing the warlock
One of the most metal classes to Diablo 4
Diablo mortal and
Diablo 2 resurrected. That's cool. I should try that
And in just a few days, Diablo 4 begins its biggest anniversary moment yet, celebrating
30 years of darkness.
Season of Hell's Legacy launches Tuesday, September 15th.
That's the day that Wolverine comes out.
season as the dead returned from pandemonium a familiar soul will find his way back to sanctuary
decker came that's the ball
decker leads you into waking nightmares where some of diablo's most unforgettable moments come back
to haunt you that's but that's ball we're trying to place every diablo player remembers when they
killed them cathedral you got killed by a mini boss the wallstone chamber and the endurance of hate
Who's the name, Magathar or something?
And, and, waiting inside the lost bitch of Baal,
Mephisto, and Diablo.
And the birthday boy himself, Diablo.
So they're adding Diablo and Baal as bosses,
and that is like expanding, that's kind of crazy.
Your face called three prime evils,
reclaiming the fragments of their souls.
Wait, what the fuck?
And then you're going to decide which evil you would want to embrace.
Oh, that's actually kind of cool.
unlock new powers and will reshape the entire season around you.
Of course, it wouldn't be a party without some presents.
You'll collect legendary gear inspired by every era of Diablo,
including the return of iconic treasures like the Stone of Jordan.
And yes, I still get excited every time one drops.
For all of you here at BlizzCon, you can jump into a special season of Hell's Legacy experience
today on the show floor.
You're going to be battling your way through some of Diablo's greatest moments with an
old friend to take you along the way.
Trust me, you'll want to stay a while and listen.
And maybe you'll find an utterly malevolent evil waiting to butcher you at the end.
It sounds high stakes.
We're really doing this, huh?
Yeah, I got to keep my dad's citizen check.
Moving on.
I told you he was old.
For everyone else.
I told you.
You won't have to wait long to play at home.
If I'm long.
Didn't you say four days?
Hey, Joe!
It's Dioplas Joe Shelley, everyone.
Let's say fire this guy.
Wait, I thought they fired him.
Welcome to the party, Joe.
Thank you.
Well, since I'm sure nobody has heard anything about why I might be holding this...
Sleepy, do y'all remember that?
I'm excited to officially announce that the Diablo IV Age of Hatred Collection is coming
to Nintendo Switch 2 on September 15th alongside the season of House Legacy.
cool. It's gonna have the same graphics as Diablo 2. And if you're here at BlizzCon,
you don't have to wait. You can play the Nintendo Switch 2 demo on the show floor.
Do you remember whenever Diablo 4 was in like fucking dire straits and they would do these
like fucking therapy meetings? Also on the Diablo 2 this was fine. You could test your
skills in Diablo Immortal Tournament. And we've got a special collaboration to talk
about. And Rob would be like, my ass is bleeding.
You're all about a creator of Spawn himself, Todd McFarlane.
When I found out that Todd was going to be here, the 13 year old me,
shit, I'm serious, freaked out, like really freaked out.
And honestly, the 46 year old me is still freaking out today.
Todd was my first taste of real dark fantasy.
And he's inspired an entire generation of storytellers.
And tomorrow, you'll hear from him directly at a live panel and drawing session,
where he's going to give you a glimpse at what awaits when spawn comes to Diablo Immortal on September 29th.
That's just what I wanted.
Thank God.
The Diablo has always been shaped by the heroes, villains, and stories that players remember most.
Earlier this year, Viola 4 players finally stopped playing on their phones and almost immediately one question started showing up everywhere.
Where is the Amazon?
Yeah, trust me. We were all asking the same thing.
In Lord of Hatred, the vision for the Amazons really took shape.
And we realized there was a huge opportunity we couldn't pass up.
So, next year, one of Diablo's most iconic warriors arrives in Diablo 4.
So please welcome the Amazon.
Don't tell me it's only fan art.
It's only fan art.
After being in Skobos, getting to play the classics from there,
that's so cool.
I can't wait to play her.
her as someone who spent way too much time playing a bow is on in Diablo 2.
Yeah.
This is a reveal I've been looking forward to for a long time.
Yes, this fearless fighter moves with speed, precision and an absolute
control over the battlefield.
As the Amazon, we're going to wield the bow, of course, but she'll also be
bringing an entirely new weapon to Diablo 4, the iconic Javelin.
Yeah, yeah.
The Amazon class passed the Amazon class pack. You know what?
I'll just get Javelin's path of 2027. Path of exile too.
Because remember that one build where you would throw it?
So make sure you join us tomorrow for the Diablo 4 What's Next panel,
where me and the team are going to take a deeper look.
I was going to play that. Inspired the Amazon's gameplay,
the white, yeah, the white and feel will also be premiering the season of Hell's
Legacy gameplay trailer so you're not gonna want to miss out. Wow. So that's
what's coming for Diablo 4. But today we're also ready to look beyond the age
of hatred. Okay. To give you a first glimpse of Diablo's. Five. Next era. Okay.
Okay, okay, Diablo Diablo six right for 30 years
Sanctuary has stood on the edge of a living edge and every time
Heroes have arrived to push the darkness back
Until now what happened
This is better be cool this is better be fucking cool
It's supposed to save us.
Let's avoid the leaders and lords.
Sanctuary is his.
The Lord of Terror has returned.
Oh, it's actually Diablo. Diablo are five?
Already?
Oh, I get the fuck out of here. Are you kidding me? Fuck you. What do you mean, 2029?
That's right! Diablo 5!
What do you mean?
Diablo 5 is coming in spring, 2029.
The heroes are gone, Sanctuary has fallen, and Diablo has won.
Fuck yeah, for the first time. That's right. You won't be fighting to stop Diablo from taking sanctuary
You'll be fighting a little enter a world where he already has
Cool because he's so calm or safe places waiting to protect you. What is it a survival game?
That changes everything. What does that mean? You survive?
What powers you're willing to claim what and what you're willing to sacrifice?
It's not a rogue light is it at the heart of Diablo five is the simple question
What must you become when the world has already fallen?
I mean, you already have warlocks and necromancers, right?
Join me and Tiffany this afternoon for the Diablo 5
Forging the Next Era panel, where the team will take you inside
the fallen sanctuary we're building. And we'll talk about how
we're evolving the world, classes, and the story for Diablo's
Diablo's next era.
Did PoE2 mug Diablo IV so bad they had to make a comeback in the game?
Thank you for believing in Diablo.
And thank you for walking through the darkness of us for 30 years.
Really?
Please clap.
We'll see you in hell.
We'll see you in hell.
Please clap.
Five.
We'll see you in hell.
Well, it's got to be Warcraft next, right?
I feel like it has to be.
So they're kind of running out of games.
Well, that's Hearthstone.
He's in the square.
So Warcraft is going to be last?
Obviously, the announcement is going to be really good.
I've got my hopes for this guy. I do.
Fat dude!
The opponent is so annoying!
Let's go back to the tavern with an oversized t-shirt.
Oh, BlizzCon!
Yeah, I've got high hopes for him.
It is so good to be back, and I am thrilled to be here.
Heartstone has been my favorite game since I first played 13 years ago.
And I am so proud of everything the team has been crafting for you.
It means the world to us that you're here
All right, let's see what cars we open oh
What they found Brendan give it up for Brendan yeah
Oh
For an overstat it no overload no balance patches required. Yeah, this guy's definitely a nerd
Wow, I see his posture is like mine see
I mean, look at that. Look at that neck. I'm going to choose to focus on the over status guy
Hello everyone
It is so cool to be on this stage
Is it really I don't know about you all but I'm still recovering from the chills. I got from that Starcraft trailer
Yeah
The Starcraft one was really good. That was the game that introduced Blizzard entertainment to me as a kid
Yeah, that was actually really fast forward 16 years
Hearthstone launches and I've been hooked ever since yeah, such a special part of my life. Yeah
Nathan do you mind if we take a selfie actually? It's that you're really cool
It has been such a privilege getting to help shake what comes next for Hearthstone
So, without further ado, let's take a look at our next card.
What are they going to add new cards?
Oh, so this gets to be an epic.
Well, it's a pretty epic expansion.
C'thun!
It's C'thun!
That's tear?
That's tier?
Oh, my God!
This trailer is kind of cool.
Oh, shit.
They got all the old dogs.
But who's this?
Who the fuck is this?
The jar?
Yeah.
That's the one that they pulled out.
Is that Yogg Sirong, was it?
Oh yeah, this is the outside.
Yeah.
Titans vs the Old Dogs.
For the first time in Hearthstone, we're going tens of thousands of years into Azeroth's
The Titans went right into the battle with the old gods and the Titans during the Black
Empire when the old gods were at the peak of their power.
And that's saying a lot, because they were already pretty terrifying in 2016.
Corruption, madness, tentacles, the classics.
And because an old God expansion wouldn't be complete without getting you something new.
I can tell just by looking at people.
We've added an appropriately chaotic keyword.
With Assemble, we can now merge two Hearthstone cards
together to create a powerful new card.
Like, what if we had Marshall and Thresher
and merged it with Dragon Bay?
After you cast a spell, deal five damage to a random enemy?
Nothing bad could possibly happen with that.
The assemble mechanic pulls from a curated pool of over 250 cards.
The only card I have is making some fishing.
We are going to find some pretty busted combos
once Reign of the Black Empire launches in a bit over a month.
Yeah, it's only down to October 20th.
I didn't play Yu-Gi-Oh or Pokemon or...
...or still getting any of those.
Time to our card pack.
Our next card is...
I used to not have wasted this fire.
What is this?
A...
...a Battlegrounds card?
Bob believes in me.
That's right.
Bob's got some strange new guests in the Tavern too.
There's a brand new minion type, Aberrations.
They're strange, unpredictable, possibly leaking
from dimensions they definitely should not be leaking from.
And they're going to shake up lobbies
in some really exciting ways.
Every aberration that dies brings the old gods
a little closer to waking up.
Nothing while yet.
And when they do, you and your opponent
definitely going to notice. We don't have any other games left. For everyone that's here at BlizzCon,
operations are available to play on the show floor today. Yeah. All right, we have two cards left.
Let's do this one next.
Epic! Ah, our overhauled journal. One of our goals for Hearthstone is to make every trip to the
tavern feel like part of a larger adventure. And we asked ourselves, what if we put narrative
into the game, sharing the story of each expansion.
We thought that was cool.
And what if all the quests, achievements, and events
were all thematically and cohesively tied together
with that narrative?
No, be after a while.
That sounded really fun, so we're going to do that.
The updated journal launches alongside the Black Empire.
And over the course of the expansion,
it will grow alongside the story, connecting everything
you've been doing along the way.
Speaking of, we've got all new events coming too,
from deals on a mysterious black market to epic boss fights.
And Tabran Brawls are getting even bigger too,
including something we've never done before,
2v2 Hearthstone, where you and Frank...
Yeah, when you and Frank can team up
and take down another duo in the brawl.
So it means double the teamwork, double the chaos
And let's be honest, someone else to blame when everything goes horribly wrong.
We had two headed dragon.
I know you're not talking about me and my friend Jason signed up for a tournament.
This is just the beginning.
The journal is going to keep growing with new events, new adventures and new ways
to experience each expansion story.
We are arguing that to their fault.
Our mom was driving us home to discover.
Or like, no, our mom, but like my mom's driving us home.
What do we haven't shown you yet?
Blaming each other.
We're sharing our roadmap and more details about the journal and everything else we talked about during the what's next panel later today.
I got a two-handed right, Ethan.
I got one more card to flip.
Oh, that's right.
Ooh.
What's this?
Wow, what's this?
Why do we fight like this?
This is Pandaria.
For the challenge.
To cultivate your spirit.
Why?
To rise above the winds.
But mostly.
I remember whenever this came out, I honestly thought it was a joke, I thought it was a joke.
Oh, there's classes in Hearthstone, I didn't know that.
I told you this guy has a lot of energy.
She is agile, adaptable, and always ready to change his approach.
Nobody walks onto the stage like a goblin, and they're not ready.
feeling how flexible the monk is.
You can adapt to what's happening in the game
and then pull off some incredible combos
when the moment feels just right.
We're doing more in Hearthstone than ever before,
and it feels awesome.
The Hearthstone Tavern doors are open to everyone,
whether you're playing on your PC while watching TV,
multitasking on a video call,
or folding laundry while you're playing on your phone.
The Tavern is always there for you.
Uh-oh, I better wrap this up.
We'll have more to share about Monk next year.
Until then, keep laughing,
the production is set by Jim Culey.
And good luck fighting off the Black Empire.
Thank you all for being a part of this incredible community.
And thank you for joining us on this adventure.
And we'll see you in the Tavern.
What if they fall on the way out?
What if they fall?
Liz Khan, give it up for Holly Longdale.
Okay, this is one more grab.
Is she going to be in a cosplay again?
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
It actually looks good.
Is she going to be a boss player? Oh my god. Oh my god. It actually looks good. Damn.
What's up, please come! Damn.
Do we have any WoW players out there?
That must mean we must have some heart.
Where's my alliance?
Excellent.
I am so excited to be here with you today, and so is the team.
I wanted to give a shout out to the team.
You've been working really hard for you.
That's a crazy-ass cosplay that she got put on.
That's the whole ass lot.
You're going to get to see the team on the show floor this weekend, and we're going to
be running tabletop adventures with you.
Why is Anduin looking at his 14?
So come by and hang out with us and make some incredible memories together.
All right, let's get to it.
We're going to light a fire that's going to burn for decades, and it starts today.
What is it?
Oh, like turnover.
Right?
We're about to launch a kick-ass year of Warcraft.
Great.
We're going to start with the World Soul Saga, so please welcome Ian Hazakostas.
It is so great to be back out here. This is going to be an amazing day, an amazing weekend,
an amazing year for Warcraft fans. Let's kick it off with some World Soul Saga. It has been
really fun so far this year, watching you all jump into the night and read the graphical
Well, Phyllis, we've been admiring your wildly creative home decorations that make us glad
we decided not to implement those neighborhood HOAs.
And of course, we've been reading all your theories about where this story is headed.
We've been pretty tight-lipped about that over the last few months, saying, that'll
have to wait until BlizzCon a whole lot.
What's BlizzCon?
Well, look where we are.
Three years ago, on this stage, we announced not one, but all three expansions that comprise
the World Soul saga.
Damn, that shit already happened three years ago!
It's been just about at the midpoint of that journey.
Beginning with the assault on Dalaran, then into the depths of the Earth, and back out
again, we've been hot on Xalatath's heels, battling to save our world from being plunged
into darkness.
Now as we regroup following the events of the Sunwell, we're currently in the middle
of a time-honored narrative interlude known as a Troll Patch.
Speaking of which, congratulations to Team Liquid on last week's World First Clear.
Team Liquid's been winning a lot recently, huh?
And a hometown audience here, but also kudos to Echo for their excellent play, making it
a neck-and-neck race that came down to the wire.
Yeah, they stole it, they were cheating.
For many of you, the Curisibula tech seemed a bit like a digression from the main plot.
But hopefully over the next few weeks, it's going to start to become apparent how it's
leading us inexorably towards what comes next.
For a while now, the Wholesoul Saga narrative has been about moving chess pieces into place
on the proverbial board, getting ready for our endgame, setting things up.
But we are just about done with that phase of things.
From now, until the end of not just Midnight, but the whole World Soul saga, it's all gas, no breaks.
And that starts with what comes next. The next major content for Midnight, Eclipse.
Oh, Eclipse, right. Okay, I was like, is that the new expansion, but no, it's a patch.
That is patch 12.2 for those of you keeping track of it.
12.2?
Zalatath has been a step ahead of us.
This game's been around for a while.
But she now stands, or I guess technically hovers, before her ultimate objective.
And I think it's about time we confront her directly.
Now, some of you may be wondering, what exactly is that objective?
Well, let me just show you.
Yeah, I remember 1.12.
What's in the box?
You know what I'm here for. You know what I am. Now, open the gate.
Come on, void corruption critical, we're in core access denied.
Damn.
Fascinating.
How many eons have passed since your creators abandoned this place?
The Titans are internal.
They will never abandon that which lies within.
Your incursion is doomed to fail.
Let's try anywhere here, shall we?
Seize!
Seize!
Are you even capable of feeling?
That's suffocating feeling. When you realize you will not survive and you are powerless to stop it.
I felt that once. Never again.
You don't choose to die.
There you are.
Not the Titans, nor the Old Gods, nor all mortal races could keep you from me.
Soon these shall become one, and then everything that could ever challenge my supremacy will be devoured.
So is that supposed to be like Azeroth or something? Like how does that work?
It's got to be Azeroth, right? Isn't that what happened with F***ing?
That's right. Isn't that what happened with the Jailer?
After our world soul. Since the days of F***ing.
Didn't the Jailer do the same thing?
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
And now she stands, but a toes length away from total victory.
And if she succeeds in claiming her prize,
well, that will be checkmate.
So we have our work cut out for us to say the least.
But I know you're up to the task.
Now, if you want to learn more about not just Eclipse,
but everything else that lies ahead in Midnight,
please join us this afternoon right here
for our Midnight What's Next panel.
We'll be digging into story, systems, and features,
including a new standalone game mode on the way,
and a peek at the next remix experience coming next year.
Is this like another fucking...
So that's Midnight.
Now, I know many of you came here hoping to learn a lot more about The Last Titan.
Believe me, we can't wait to tell you all about it,
but we can't get into too many details just yet,
at least not without some pretty catastrophic Midnight spoilers.
But suffice it to say that the events that will unfold in Eclipse in the World War
will set the stage for a revelation and a conflict
that is not just the final chapter of the Wholesale Saga,
but the culmination of over two decades of World of Warcraft.
The Last Titan will bring an extraordinary chapter of Warcraft to a close
while laying the groundwork for what comes next.
Now, the Last Titan isn't just a return to Northrend.
It's a reflection on a whole generation of your valor.
That sounds very good.
From the shifting sands of Ankaraj, to the frozen throne,
to the world breaker, to the burning legion,
to the afterlife, and back again.
We have fought to defend our home, our world.
And she needs us one last time.
One last time.
Once we're on the other side of the eclipse,
we will have so much more information to share with you.
But for now, let me just leave you all with a glimpse
of what you'll be up against in the last titan.
This is Sankara. Oh, it's the North Room.
Oh, this is Warm Rest Tip.
Ice Cream Syndrome.
Yeah.
Who's this?
That's like a really big fellow reaper.
So you get a goose to attack his feet.
Very cool.
Alexander.
Yeah, hi there.
That big sucker is coming with friends.
That mood right there is where Warcraft is going.
We heard you.
We are putting the war back in Warcraft.
They saw the tweets.
Army's going to be back in Warcraft.
We're going to be back in Warcraft.
They saw the tweets, armies, battles, bloodshed, survival.
It all harkens back to the stories that started it all.
Yeah.
It's hard to believe it's been over 24 years since we launched Warcraft 3, even longer
for Warcraft.
Wait a minute.
And like I said before, the team's been working really hard for you.
Wait a minute, wait a minute, come on please.
And that includes our Warcraft 3 team.
They've been tinkering, my friends, and they have a story to tell.
There's no, there's no way.
Are you ready to go to war?
There's no way.
There's no way.
That's so honest.
There's no way.
There's no way.
That's so honest.
That's so honest.
Is this it? This is like the sort of BFF?
The Scarlet Crusade!
Oh, shit!
Dude!
The fourth one, I don't know!
Is that Hedl?
Oh, she's the man of God!
Wait a minute!
Wait a minute!
Warcraft 3 Reforged Forsaken Kingdom?
I don't know what to think about that.
For the first time in 23 years, we have a new campaign in Warcraft 3.
Okay.
In Forsaken Kingdom, we'll see some new faces. Some are peeling and totally gross.
And some will be familiar, like Sylvanas.
You'll experience the fall of Lordaeron and how it came to be known as the Undercity.
And with our forces and our elite strats, of course, we'll find out what it truly means
to be forsaken.
Oh, this is when the Arthur shows up?
What's going on there?
What are you doing here, son?
The city is overrun with cultists and the undress.
They need to wreck off the craft tree where Arthas actually lives.
And we tell them, actually, we don't need to do that.
We just need to get over on that.
the cinematic isn't that called a death night by the way
Okay.
Work, work.
That's AI game.
Playing this campaign really is amazing. It's been so much fun.
It really takes me back and gives me all the feels.
And if you want to learn more, we have two panels later today.
And by the way, Warcraft 3, Forsaken Kingdom,
and launches today.
Oh, shit.
And if you're here at BlizzCon, you can play it on the show floor.
God damn.
I love the shadow drops.
Oh, 2030.
Not yet.
Announce classic costs.
So let's shift gears a little bit here.
It's time to talk about something new.
What?
Maybe address some of the rumors out there, because...
Oh, shit.
We know a lot of you love that nostalgic flavor of vanilla.
Oh, shit.
So what if we take vanilla and really plus it up?
Let's get it.
All right.
Please don't fuck this up.
Our home.
Please do not fuck this up.
There's a lot.
Her untold stories
come to our hearts.
Revealing lands
unexplored.
Forgotten secrets.
And new horizons.
I'm so nervous.
We see.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Please, people. Please, people.
That looks good.
They're gonna unlock it!
Yep.
Don't let them become the main city and hold the work out for the 14th time.
I should have just turned around.
That's a power source on that.
Wait.
Did I get a power source?
What?
Let's move it a bit further down.
That's optimal! That's actually really cool.
So they're adding in Hydro-List itself.
What the fuck is this?
What the fuck is this?
So, time has come to make things last five.
To home, to adventure, forever.
Whoa, we're trapped forever?
Forever?
I have to tell you though you only have a little bit of time to rally your friends your newbies
is your former crew, anyone you want to live in Azeroth with,
get ready because World of Warcraft forever launches
in seven weeks on November 4th.
Wow.
I'll say that again, November 4th.
November 4th, everybody.
Wow.
So beta starts this Thursday.
Wow.
And if you're here, you could play forever on the show floor.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's Thursday, isn't today like Saturday?
Well, that's not for a while, right?
World of Warcraft Forever is your new permanent home.
17.
It's a new beginning that never ends.
And I promise you, if you're a past current or a new player,
Now's the time to get into the game that changed everything.
Let me tell you why.
We're giving you another way to play WoW.
What is it?
It's friendly, familiar, and new.
What is it?
It's going to live right alongside
our modern and classic games.
How does this work?
Forever is focused on what made vanilla
so memorable in the first place.
The world as the main character.
Yeah, true.
It's...
Yeah.
Instead of one big heroic story,
you will carve your own path.
It's also a place dedicated to community
and making sure that it's nurtured.
And above all,
there's no rush here.
It's the journey that counts, not the destination.
So what was it? I want details. Just tell me the details.
There's going to be a lot to discover, too. It's not all going to be solved or predictable.
Ultimately, it's easy to get into and play and deep enough to stay forever.
Honestly, this is a new opportunity to get back to what the heart is of MMOs and what makes them so damn special.
I'm I'm so nervous. I'm so nervous like I like oh my god, please be good
Frickin magic of adventuring and running into battle or the thrill of a new encounter with your crew when you're trying to click your way out of
Certain peril the adrenaline you probably good. I'll play it. It's bad action for friends for
We love our loot
Even the chill moments are going to bring us home, like meeting a new friend on a run like I did when I was making a trek from Teldrassil to Ironforge with the music, giving the vibes.
I had to help my mom do that.
It's about all of us.
Back in Zinnole, wow.
It's about feeling at home with your people.
There are so many great moments like this to come.
She died during this crocodile so many times.
And a lot more.
She didn't know what the fuck was going on.
Between the well-worn pages of the history we know,
lie the stories we have vowed.
Okay, so that was South Shore.
Countless adventures, untold,
from the time when it all began,
through the hidden paths in ancient forests,
above and beyond familiar peace,
Your journey awaits, let the drums of war, thunder, fall forever.
I just, I, I just, I wanna, I wanna, new zones, okay?
Not hiding.
Oh shit, it's updating now!
What the fuck?
Expanded original sounds?
Oh, they're gonna add like, primed batalms and shit!
New dungeons as well?
Oh my god!
Hooray! What the fuck?
10 and 20 player raids.
Undead paladins, four shamans.
New playable race. Oh, that's the world in the trailer.
Okay, there's a new battle, okay.
Over a... wait, what?
A thousand new items?
Or a thousand new quests?
Nice.
Damn.
I cannot wait for you to join us in forever.
It all starts at the events of Warcraft III's Forsaken Kingdom when Lordaeron falls, but
before Bolton Core.
So essentially year one of Vanillawao, but the future is untold.
We may see stories that could have happened and some that didn't happen at all.
Like what, Kersen Kripsenship?
We are all going to meet up on our original continents and embark on the journey to 60
and stay at 60 indefinitely.
That's right.
That's right.
The simple explanation for that is we don't want to race ahead and leave our accomplishments,
our gear and our friends behind.
Yeah.
That said, we will progress in new ways and get updates as we go.
Like what? Paragraph numbers and shit, what?
New experiences and more.
And it's all based on what we've been hearing from you.
And for that inspiration, we want to thank you.
We are nothing without our community.
Yeah, they asked a lot of people like that price for this.
For every exist because the team soaked up many, many years
of ideas and passion for Classic Plus.
They brought their own magic to it
and created this adventure for all of us.
We've got a lot more to tell you, so stick around for our What's Next panel, which will be right here immediately after this.
Thank God. Alright, let's see it.
Thank you, Turtle Wow. That's why they shut it down.
And tomorrow morning, we'll get into the details in our deep dive panel.
They had so many people involved with this. That's why there were so many leaks.
Because nobody knows how to keep their fucking mouth shut.
Yeah. Yeah, this has been in the works for a while.
Oh, my God.
Wow.
My heart.
I love you.
So I put it in the middle.
It's quite a start to this BlizzCon party, right?
It's not put in the middle of the game, though.
Starcraft is back.
Yeah, in four years.
Diablo five is on the go.
We've got a new hero in Overwatch.
Why didn't you eat anything?
Zalatath is floating around the Nexus.
And she's trying to steal our World Soul, rude.
And we all get to play in Azra forever.
Wow.
Wow.
I guess it's one last run.
last run. Johanna described this time together as a no-win. And that's what our worlds have
always been. One last one. The time we get to spend here is truly precious. That's gonna
be crazy, right? Okay, I'll see it again. I love you all. We're gonna rebuild Olympus.
And this is where opening ceremony begins, ends. It ends right now. But our adventures
Oh, truly the updates, yo!
I do want to say from our hearts to yours, thank you, truly thank you.
And now, it's time to play, have an absolutely epic, badass, play BlizzCon!
Yes!
Ha ha ha ha!
BlizzCon!
Ha ha ha!
Great, good job.
Uh-huh. She's wasted. Already. It's like 2pm. She fucked that up? Yeah, she did, but I like her.
I honestly think this is, uh...
So, I knew about the Starcraft thing.
I knew about Classic Plus.
I know things about the new expansion as well.
That's what the conclusion is like.
But...
I didn't know you were trapped in 2030!
I saw you kidding me!
What do you mean?
secret lab prograde ergonomics for the highest level of the world and nobody told
me that so okay what do I think about it I think it was pretty I think the
announcements were pretty good we're gonna look at the world warcraft stuff see
what's going on with it they talk about the story for a while why didn't you
week because if I leaked information then it would get people who told me in
trouble. Why would I do that? I'd be an asshole to do that.
Yeah somebody does that's a jackass.
I don't leak anything.
I'll be retired by 2030. Realistically I'm probably still gonna be doing the
Same thing I'm doing now in 2030, right?
I mean, at least hopefully.
Let me, all right, all right.
Before they do this, let's do the bingo.
Okay, so we didn't get Chris Metzen.
I just realized that.
Okay, classic plus.
We didn't really get workout for new Overwatch character,
something gay.
I don't know if we really,
do we really get something gay?
New mobile, not real, yeah.
I mean, I guess I mean, yeah, okay, we got that one. Got this one. Starcraft game got
that one. Wild 2, we did not get this one. Um, double expansion announcement. I mean,
it's a new game, but I think it kind of counts. Yeah, honestly, like to the TV show, you're
Right.
Forgot all about that.
All right.
World of Warcraft, what's next forever?
So now we get to hear about Classic Plus.
So they asked a lot of streamers and other people
to give input on this, like the other Classic people.
That's why there were so many leaks and so many people
fucked up, is because there was just so many points of failure.
It's just the way it is.
Warcraft 3 campaign is 30 euros extra.
Did they ask you?
No, they didn't.
I didn't really inquire about it either
or try to get involved.
This is gonna be the truth.
I spent over almost 20 years
emotionally invested into the game.
And at this point now,
I'm like, whatever you bring out,
like if you want my two cents, you can get it.
But I'm gonna wait and just play it out when it comes out.
I'm just gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna,
I don't wanna get emotionally invested.
I don't wanna get, you know, fucking, like, you know,
whatever you wanna say.
50, dude, it comes out in 52 days.
Oh my God, man.
You had to have some emotions bro. I mean, I think it was really I I I I like this girl
I'm excited
Why so long of a wait?
Well, because they didn't really know how to do it. That's why and it's like something
who's streamed off forever now. Yeah, well, I mean like we're gonna watch the the event
right because that's whenever they're gonna talk about you know everything that's gonna
be any expansion and then I'll look at some of the clips and footage from the game and everything
else. Already excited for the new retail expansion knowing what you know? Well I mean if I said yeah
I mean like yeah I'll just say yeah but like I'm not going to go any farther than that and it's
like yeah I'll just say yeah. How about that? How about that?
I guess I'm gonna resubscribe in November. Yeah, I feel like I've all I have never really unsubscribed right so that's it
Holy shit, I mean there's a lot of people watching I mean it's blizzcon, right?
I mean of course people are gonna be excited for blizzcon. I mean what the hell do you expect?
I mean, I feel like that's kind of kind of makes sense doesn't it? A lot of people have been ready for this
No Mott news. I don't think people really care a lot about the remix events. I don't really think so
It's nice, but that's about it
You're gonna be a loud streamer now
So am I gonna be a loud streamer? Yeah, I'm gonna stream the forever
I'm gonna stream all the way through it like all the content and everything, you know get to level 60 do the raids
You know play through the game like I'm not gonna go and try to like know life it or anything
But I'm gonna play like here. Let me use the bathroom real quick and I'll talk a lot about like what my plans for it
Oh, I didn't know it was coming out so soon
is it happening yet? no it's not okay i got a little bit of time that's good okay so here's
what my plans are. Which makes sure it's audio. Um, okay, so my plans really are that I'm
gonna go and play, I'm gonna make a new raid, like I'm gonna, I'm gonna play the game for
content. I'm gonna, I'm gonna hopefully make this the best. I want it to be as good as
I want it to be as good as like the first weeks of the expansion go back yeah
I just don't know whether it's gonna happen
I just have a real life friend message me already about it he and I both played the
game for 20 years yeah we're gonna get everybody on the same server and
everything. It is amazing to be up here, actually able to at last talk about what somehow both
the best kept and worst kept secret of the summer. Yeah, y'all. And shout out to the
classic WoW subreddit. No, it's not too late to start World of Warcraft forever. This is
a story that really began nine years ago in these halls when we announced WoW Classic
to the world.
Then a couple years after that, of course, we welcomed you in,
dived back into Azeroth to experience it
as it was in the beginning.
And millions came in and settled in
and began tackling Enixia and Ragnaros,
leveling up to 60, really re-experiencing that journey.
We're going to look at everything.
The conversations naturally started
to emerge around what would come next.
And those conversations grew louder.
Many people, of course, hoped to continue on
into the Burning Crusade.
and a chance to go back through the dark portal and show Illidan just how prepared we've all become
after 20 years. The min-maxing next level. And of course that is what came to pass.
But there was another group, even back then in 2020 or so, a group of dreamers, people for whom
the vanilla game was just about the perfect MMO, if not for already being solved and already being
experienced. It was, it was the best game ever made. They didn't want to leave behind that world
grounded in the immediate aftermath of Warcraft 3 and begin a journey forward through the
timeline.
They didn't want to replace their hard-won raid epics with greens from Zangarmarsh.
They didn't want to go from the sprawl and fence we've seen in Kalimdor to an outland
that you could fly across in just a few minutes on an epic mount.
Still mad about it 25 years later.
They asked.
And so did we.
What if we could build some new content and tell new stories in that immersive world?
And what if we could make mean specs even just a tiny bit viable?
That's why they talked to Sfound.
But this was 2020, and the reality is that the team that we had at the time, the development
pipeline that we had at the time, were something that had been purpose built to restore and
curate an old version of the game.
Not to add to it, not to build new things.
And so for a time that dream stayed a dream.
But that ember of an idea smoldered over the months and years to follow.
And it took hold within the classic team as well.
People on the team would come forward left and right,
pitching versions of what it might look like to add content to change that vanilla game.
And that led us to 2023 when we decided to test the waters with a certain experiment.
Season also went out.
Also discovered right here.
Season of discovery was an experiment on many levels.
Remember that? Remember what we did there? Remember that?
Sod was awesome, but it was deliberately pushing boundaries.
And we pretty much said that outright at the time,
because it was a time-limited seasonal experience.
It gave us a chance to find the limits of how much change was too much change.
How far could we go before things started to feel like they didn't belong in that world?
It was limit tested.
By those philosophies.
But we did make a bunch of new quests, new items, new class abilities,
and even all new dungeons and raids like Tarzan Crypt.
I played it a lot, dude.
And we sure found those limits,
but along the way, we learned a ton of valuable lessons.
And probably a couple of years ago, by the middle of 2024,
looking at how it had gone,
we were certain that it was not only possible,
but compelling to pursue this vision.
From season of discovery, we learned what worked and what didn't.
We learned how to build content 20 years later
It felt like it belonged alongside the original stuff.
And in the meantime, we'd absorbed years of experience
of how players today approach the classic game,
which is different in many ways from how it was back in 2005.
The internet was a different place,
and knowledge was a different thing.
But most of all, we heard loud and clear
from everyone in the season of discovery
that they didn't want just a temporary season,
but instead a forever home,
where their investments would be meaningful,
where their journey is making you forward.
And so here we are.
Thank you to all those dreamers along the way who kept this idea alive and gave the team inspiration over the years.
It's been a lot of fun over the last year, reading and watching all the online discourse about what Classic Plus could be, should be, and definitely shouldn't be.
But now let me turn it over to the team so they can tell you exactly what it is.
It should be Paid-O-N with an anime style with limited characters, and it should be FPS.
Okay.
Oh, that's clever.
It's like California, but the board.
Hello, BlizzCon!
So what exactly is...
It's a great cosplay.
For us, it begins with a simple belief.
There are still adventures worth telling in the original world of Azeroth.
We're not looking beyond Azeroth for the next chapter.
We're not moving forward to Outland and beyond.
Instead, we're looking deeper into the world players already fell in love with.
The Eastern Kingdoms, Kalimdor, the places we've traveled through for decades.
We're revisiting mysteries that were never fully explored,
stories that were never fully told,
regions that existed on the map,
but never had the chance to become adventures of their own.
You're gonna get grim but tall.
We believe Azeroth still has secrets worth uncovering.
And that's what WoW Forever is.
Not expanding away from Azeroth,
but expanding deeper inside of it.
Great, that's exactly what I want.
So before we show you exactly where that journey begins,
I wanna talk briefly about the principles
guiding every decision that we've made.
OK.
First, let me get my slides here.
Sorry there.
First, approachable and familiar.
We believe the world should still feel like classic.
Every addition we make is measured against the spirit
of the original game.
Not whether it's new, not whether it's flashy,
but whether it feels like it belongs.
Good.
That's why you won't find flying mounts.
That's right. You won't find level scaling.
Good.
Azeroth should remain a dangerous world where preparation matters, communication matters,
and working together matters.
Interdependencies.
Yes.
Yes.
That's exactly it.
Thank you.
We're not interested in making the game difficult simply for difficulty's sake.
Good.
are overcome, we want it to be because players prepared, learned, cooperated and succeeded
together. And they have all the world buffs. Now second, world as the main character. That's right.
Yes. That's right. We believe Azeroth itself should be one of the most important characters in the
game. Leveling is just as important as endgame. Yes. And we want to keep investing in the world
Exactly.
Exactly.
New zones, new quests, new rewards, new adventures across all levels of play.
Not every story needs to be about saving the world.
Sometimes the most memorable stories happen in a remote village, along a forgotten road,
or a corner of the map that you never expected to revisit.
Everything here is good.
This is exactly our border.
This is a journey before our destination.
We believe your effort should matter.
What the fuck?
And it should continue to matter.
Now forever is designed as a long-term home.
We're not planning around future level cap increases
that invalidate your accomplishments.
The professions you invest in matter,
the routes you choose matter,
and the gear you earn matters.
The experiences that you have with friends matter.
Our catch-up system is quite simple.
Play the game!
They're doing it.
They're actually doing it.
Run dungeons, make friends, explore the world,
earn your rewards.
Yo!
And finally, protect and nurture social experiences.
Many of our favorite memories from classic
happen because of other players.
Friction.
Because someone helped us complete a quest.
Yeah.
Because a stranger joined our group.
Because a dungeon run turned into a friendship.
dungeon run turned into a friendship.
We've had to be disciplined when adding convenience to the game,
because every quality of life decision
affects how players interact with one another.
Now, we want to create reasons for people to explore and adventure together,
and that's part of the philosophy behind new systems like camping.
And it's why every patch will include content for different kinds of players.
whether you enjoy solo adventures, dungeons, raids, PVP, or something in between.
Because the best adventures are the ones that we share.
They're going to add solo challenges like mage towers.
So those pillars guide every decision that we make.
That'd be really cool.
But what do they actually mean in practice?
Like the hunter-bow stuff?
For us, it starts with Azeroth itself.
People often talk about vanilla Azeroth as though it's a solved game,
as though every mystery has been answered,
every story has been told, every corner of the world explored.
But when we look at Azeroth, we see something very different.
We see potential.
We see unfinished stories.
We see unexplored places.
We see regions players have been wondering about for decades.
The Gilneas, Mount Hyjal, Uldum, the mountains north of Angora.
I wonder what's up there.
The spaces that exist between the familiar parts of the world
And the possibilities don't stop there.
Forgotten kingdoms, Titan mysteries,
the caverns of time, countless adventures,
still waiting to be told in the vanilla world.
But every journey has to begin somewhere.
And when we started planning well forever,
we wanted to begin with places deeply rooted in the world,
players already know and love.
So let's take a look at where our adventure begins.
Okay, let's see it.
So today, we're introducing four new regions to Azeroth.
Goddamn.
Yes.
Four new adventures built directly into the world
of the Eastern Kingdoms in Kalimdor,
because Azeroth is not finished growing,
and this is how that growth begins.
So let's start with a place many of us have wondered about
for more than 20 years, Mount Ijal.
Oh, really? You just look at a YouTube video.
It tells you where it went.
I mean, like, who can just worry about a YouTube video?
We all know the story.
the story of Archimonde's defeat, but what happened afterwards?
How did Hygel recover?
How are the forests healing from the corruption?
How are the wild gods affected by the events atop the mountain?
And what dangers still remain?
Mount Hygel is a new end-game leveling zone
where players can finally journey through the dark whisper gorge
and explore one of Warcraft's most important locations
during a period of history that we've never really experienced before.
Now, you'll encounter new stories, rewards, new reputations,
and both solo and group content
as you help shape the future of this recovering land.
Nice.
And for players seeking a greater challenge,
Hydral also serves as the point of one of our launch raids,
Hydral Summit.
Bro, you've got to have 40 man's.
And it serves as one of three entrances
into one of our other raids, the Barrow Deeps.
I want 40 minutes.
Because some of Azeroth's greatest degrees still have stories yet to tell.
But not every adventure begins with a famous landmark.
Some begin in places we've barely noticed at all.
If you've ever flown between Morgor and Desilis,
you've probably seen a set of ancient ruins passing far below.
A small detail in the world, a mystery hiding in plain sight.
Welcome to Shendralos.
Here, you'll meet Mordent, even Shade, and learn more about the Shenderlar,
the people whose history is deeply connected to the Lost,
Dire Maul, and Prince Torthelgen himself.
I hated that.
The players will also continue storylines involving the Galkus
and the Magrum Centaur tribes,
while discovering new reasons to visit dungeons like Maradon and Razorfen Downs.
That's a great example of one of the things we love most about Azeroth.
Even the smallest corner of the world can become a truly memorable adventure.
Nice.
Now, one of our core beliefs is that the journey matters,
and nowhere embodies that philosophy better than our new zone, the River Glades.
Located along the eastern coast of eastern kingdoms,
between Red Ridge, Burning Steps, the Badlands,
and Swamp of Sorrow, this place is big,
the River Glades is a major new leveling zone,
inspired by stories that stretch all the way back to the earliest Warcraft games.
Years ago, human forces pursued retreating orcs to this region,
and when help never came, many of those settlers were forced to remain behind
and build lives of their own on the frontier.
Generation later, the descendants still endure.
This is a rugged land of rivers, grasslands, trade routes, struggling communities,
old grudges, and new opportunities.
Humans and orcs, ogres and gnolls,
Doblins and Murlocs, all competing to survive in a region where no one has it easy.
And that's what makes the River Blades special.
This isn't a story about saving Azeroth.
It's a story about living in Azeroth,
spanning from the mid-30s to the mid-40s,
River Blades introduces more than 150 new quests,
content for both Horde Alliance players,
new reputations, new rewards,
and entirely new ways to progress through your leveling journey.
Hopefully the news is also good to keep more children old ones.
That expands trade routes throughout the Eastern Kingdoms and beyond.
Because that's what happened before.
And for those of you looking for trouble, you'll find Kroll Dock Stronghold,
an enormous outdoor dungeon where a powerful ogre civilization
is conducting some very questionable business.
And yes, we thought it might be nice to have another option
besides running Scala Monastery for the 25th time.
Yes!
Oh, no!
So far, we've explored places tied to the familiar parts of Warcraft's history,
but Azeroth should still be able to surprise us.
Sometimes the greatest mystery isn't beyond the horizon.
Sometimes it's above us.
Welcome to Zephyr's Isle.
Thousands of years ago, a group of high-born exiles
forged a pact with the elemental wind spirits,
and they built a civilization in the realm of Skywall.
Yeah, this wasn't entirely without precedent
Classic players may remember stories like Thunderfury and Prince Thundaren
Where we first cut glimpses of the elemental powers beyond Azeroth itself
Now Zephyrus did somebody say to expand on some of those ideas while still creating something entirely new
But the civilization of Zephyrus is in trouble the air spirits that once protected these islands have vanished
Ancient structures are beginning to fail, communities are becoming isolated, and the
sky-borne people are divided over what comes next.
Some seek answers from the wind spirits.
Some wish to reclaim the arcane traditions of their ancestors, others have turned to
darker powers.
Zephyr's Isles serves as a brand new starting experience from levels 1 to 12 and combines
classic warcraft aesthetics with elemental architecture inspired by sky wall itself.
Very cool.
And that is why we're introducing an entirely new playable race, the Skyborne Blue Elves.
So Blue Elves.
Now the Skyborne are not a neutral race.
At character creation, players will choose whether their Skyborne joins the Horde or the
Alliance.
But that means they're neutral.
And while they share a common ancestry, they no longer share a common vision for the future.
But the Horde-aligned Skyborne embrace stronger ties to elemental traditions and work closely
alongside the Earth and Ring, granting access to the Shaman class.
Now Alliance Skyborne pursue the arcane legacy of their ancestors
and work alongside the Kirin Tor granting access to the Mage class.
Now both factions can play warriors, hunters, robes,
and druids including some brand new Skyborne druid forms created specifically
for the race. That's cool.
And the Skyborne also feature new ratios,
customizations, voices, dances,
and a wide range of unique visual options.
And more importantly, the Skyborne represent
exactly the kind of story we want to tell in Well Forever.
Something new, something exciting,
and something that feels like it belongs in Azeroth.
Yay!
Now, whether it's helping restore Hygel,
uncovering forgotten histories of Shendrolos,
building a future on the Riverglades frontier,
or taking your first steps through the skies of Zephyrus.
These are only the first chapters of Wow! Forever.
This isn't a seasonal experiment.
This isn't a one-time expansion.
And it isn't the end of Azeroth's story.
That's right, stakes, too.
It's a commitment, a promise,
to keep growing this world with new regions,
new mysteries, new adventures,
and new stories for years and years to come.
But a living world needs challenges.
New dungeons, new raids, new battlegrounds, new rewards,
and to show you what's waiting for adventurers brave enough to answer that call,
I would like to hand things over to Nora.
Nora?
Thank you.
Oh, yeah, the girl that helped make the...
Right?
Yeah, I know her.
Yeah, she did videos about Season of Discovery, I think so, it's...
Greetings, adventurers!
I'd like to start by expressing just how proud I am of the team for making this dream a reality.
Like many of you watching right now, we've poured our hearts into World of Warcraft,
and it's an honor to be entrusted with this beloved world and this incredible legacy.
They're not fucking up!
But ah, look at me getting all sentimental when there are matters that require our attention.
They're not messed up.
There's adventure to be had, all of them after us.
And, well, let me just show you.
In the Alterac Mountains, a disruption has thrown the magical city of Dalaran into chaos.
Oh my god!
The mages of the Curentor have erected a magical barrier over the city to conceal the restoration
efforts after the events of Warcraft 3, but as you can see, the barrier seems to be down.
Furthermore, I'm hearing all sorts of strange reports, enchantment backfiring, arcane constructs
going haywire, demonic energy is running rampant, there are chats everywhere, I guess that part's
normal. Anyway, far be it from me to imply that the all-powerful mages of the Cure and Tord don't
have the situation under control, but perhaps if you're willing to brave the dangers you could
lend them a hand, especially if you're around the bulls 28, 33, there might be some magical artifacts
in it for you and besides there's a whole city to explore. So no, this isn't just a dungeon,
of course, the optics of some ragtag group of adventurers helping out these powerful mages
would not go over well, but I'm sure we can find some roundabout way to get you into the city.
Anyway, that's just scratching the circus. Let's turn our sights closer to home.
Stormwind? Oh, shit, it's a cinematic.
One great city of Lordaeron was devastated by Arthas and his urge. The Forsaken
have been hard at work trying to restore the city.
I hate them.
There are memories here.
I hate them.
Old family heirlooms, keepsakes from loved ones who never made it out of the city in time.
The ruins of Wanderer are treacherous, a scourge still lurks in its dark corners.
But to make matters worse, we've heard reports that a necromancer has moved in,
and all signs point to an attack on another city.
Stolen land.
Honorable members of the Horde may choose to take up arms and assist the Forsaken in reclaiming these
ruins, ideally in the level 15 to 20-ish range, while members of the Alliance...
Well, I can't imagine the Forsaken taking kindly to your presence here,
So you may need to find a way to sneak in.
But don't worry, Alliance.
We have something close to home for you two.
What's it gonna be?
The Dwarven capital city of Ironforge
is carved within the mountains of Dunmero.
And its mighty halls run deep.
Oh, shit.
Beneath the city proper lies the Hall of Fame.
Oh, shit.
A final resting place for the Dwarven monarchs of old.
This is a place that has been a well-tended and for the most part undisturbed.
But if you guys can't believe it,
someone's broken into the place.
I suspect the dark irons. Yeah, I watched on YouTube. And perhaps if you're a member of the Alliance, you might feel inspired to uproot these intruders.
Although I'll warn you, ghostly whispers echo these corridors. It's probably best to make sure you're at least somewhere in the 13 to 18 level range.
Okay. As for Horde, one thing's for certain. The dwarves, I know, would never let some Horde waltz right into their chamber. Yeah, because they smell bad.
I suppose if you're curious, you'll need to find a way to sneak in or perhaps carve your way through.
But enough of that, Holm, you're here for adventure.
Azeroth holds many secrets, and it's no surprise that there would be no so many archeological big sites to scatter throughout the land.
These courageous enough to brave errant titan constructs may set their sights on one big site in particular.
Located in the wetlands, just above Weldar's Exhibition, you'll find a place trapped in time.
Although we don't know much about it, but that's the point.
A strange mist has been floating down from the mountains and flashing lights have been spotted on the horizon,
so there must be something up there.
You'll check it out, won't you?
I would make sure that you're in the levels 29, there are 24 to 29 range, I'd say,
so you're prepared for what you might find.
I'm sure the explorers league might be interested in those findings.
Well, I wonder if they're going to add that as a wrap.
But if you're not a fan of swamps, I understand.
So how about something a bit more tropical?
These ancient troll ruins located off the coast of Stranglethorne Vale,
another troll dungeon,
and had a bagged sea creatures for as long as I could get them.
Shit!
And I don't mean to alarm you,
but those ruins have suddenly risen out of the ocean.
You can see it just off the coast.
It appears to be so sad.
No way.
city? Well, one thing's for certain, we're gonna need somebody to go in and kill everybody.
Therias is going on in there. I've heard reports that trolls and Naga have been spotted there.
Kill every single one. I saw a pirate ship crash in the place. Kill them too.
Could be pretty dangerous, so I'd make sure you're at least around levels 35 to 40 before
venturing into that place. They really don't feel like a skirt monster.
actually I'm looking around the room and y'all look pretty tough so if you want
to head over to the World of Warcraft demo area she called check out the
grand city today right here on the show floor she's saying the audience
now some players may find this prison fucked up and no I'm not implying you're
a bunch of criminals. Although there may be a few devilish rogues above you. But no, this
prison is famous because it's rumored to be the place where the Defias once held high-ranking
nobles for ransom. It was at one point even rumored to have held King Varian Ryn himself.
In the past, we were able to go visit this location, but we couldn't actually go inside.
In forever, of course, now you can. And it would be nice if you considered going down
there to clear the place out. There seemed to be some sort of conflict happening between
to defy us on the Nava inside.
So now would be an opportune time to move.
Kill them all.
You'll want to make sure you're ready to pull up a fight though.
So, a group's around level 48 to 53 should do it.
Oh wow.
This used to be a level 60 on the island.
The Shaker's Terrace.
Where have I heard those words, boy?
Oh shit.
In Ravillation Classic, I recall there was an old Titan
facility deep within a shoal of our basin.
Yeah, and it would talk about the Angora world.
What happened to them?
Anyway, perhaps one of our most treacherous locations yet in the Hills of Unborrow Crater
lies a place seemingly untouched by time.
I've heard it described as, I quote, a whole lot like Jurassic Park.
Whatever that means.
What does that mean?
There are old Titan buildings scattered throughout the area, wildlife running amok, beautiful
power crystals scattered throughout, and you guessed it, there must be some source of
power here, right?
Well, if you're interested, perhaps you can go in and investigate if your level is 58-60 maybe.
Oh damn, high level dungeon.
Look, I don't know why you would want to venture into a stronghold crawling with ogres, but
if you're into that sort of thing, I've got the opportunity for you.
What is it?
In the River Glades, outrunners have been kidnapping folks, and I've heard several
randfackings have occurred within the region.
Sturdy adventurers in the level 40-55 range could potentially put up a fight and end the
ogres.
It was used in the region.
But be warned.
Good.
In the twilight hours of the night,
I've heard weird chanting coming from the place.
Could it be cultists?
40 to 55?
Good.
That's the way it should be.
But that's the nature.
In times past, I could have-
Like BRD.
I remember standing before a gate in Azhara
and wondered what it was on the other side.
I tell you, but if you're around levels 55 to 60,
you might as well go check it out for yourself.
A great furballed city lies within.
But if you're familiar with the furgold's plight, well,
I suspect they might be struggling to save off some sort of corruption.
It could be very dangerous.
We have to kill them.
The tunnels leading into Black Maw Hold run deep and wind far into the mountain.
In fact, should you decide to explore these tunnels,
you might find yourself in an entirely different kind of danger.
Which brings us to our first raid.
What's the raid?
To the Night Elves.
The Barrow Deep is a sacred place.
Oh, this is on the earlier end of the Night Elves.
While there may be a variety of barrow dens scattered throughout the land, it is said that
the winding tunnels lead to one pivotal location we call the Barrow Deeps.
None truly know how far or how deep these tunnels run, but it must be massive.
The Night Elves hold some of their most dangerous prisoners in this location.
In fact, rumor has it, an infamous demon hunter was once kept here.
you'll get to see his prison that would be exciting to let anyone in including
allies but I've heard that like the furbolgs of Black Maw Hold they may be
dealing with some sort of corruption but these dangers are no joke in fact if I
were you I'd send no less than 10 of my greatest adventurers but we've got more
danger in store at the battle for Mount Hygel
The Alphurian Stormrage chose to sacrifice the power sustaining the Night Elves' immortality
for a chance to defeat Legion Commander Archimonde.
It worked, but holy smokes.
Coming to terms with losing one's immortality mustn't be easy, and there must be some who
disagreed with his decision, right?
Anyway, fast forward to today, and we're hearing reports that someone or something has been
draining the power from the land surrounding Hygel Summit.
Now, like the Barrow Deeds who want to be prepared.
If you were to send, say, 20 of your finest,
I'd say you have a reasonable chance of surviving.
This is by far our largest raid in WoW Forever.
Beautiful snowy peaks over the area.
A raging river carves a path through ancient elven ruins.
The whispering of ghosts from the third war can be heard.
Ooh, and what?
There's plenty of adventure to be had,
and perhaps plenty of power to be had as well.
I got classic chips for today.
Legendary power
Well, there's a legendary
this is
there's a little tear stuff or a craft and
Tension is at an all-time high between the board and the Alliance
Rest assured you'll get to duke it out in the classic battlegrounds
You've always known in love, but we have something more for you
Off the coast of Kalimdor lies the Darkspear Islands a
Strategic location for those seeking to gain an upper hand in the conflict
This is a 15 versus 15 battleground that follows the same rule set as Eye of the Storm.
If you want to win, you'll need to control strategic positions throughout the islands.
The catch is that this battleground features a raffy basin style capture points.
You'll need to interact with a flag, then stand and defend it to secure that location.
Or, you guessed it, you'll be joining the Dark Spear Trolls as they fight to eradicate the Alliance from their islands.
and Alliance, you are to report to the Theramore Expeditionary Force for deployment.
We've also spent a lot of time thinking about classes back in 2005 and 2006.
The class team modestly redesigned several of the talent trees such as priest, mage, hunter, druid.
They made, the changes they made back then weren't really about making every class equally good at everything.
Rather, they wanted each class to feel unique.
wanted to give us a reason to bring each class on our next adventure.
The changes we've made in classes and while forever, follow that same spirit.
We want to cover gaps where they exist, but we don't want to erase what makes each class
unique.
For example, Paladins, there's a new seal that allows you to tank a bit more effectively.
If healing's your jam, you might find talents that enable you to do a bit, just a bit, of
group healing.
And the rep paladins, I don't know, maybe now's your time to shine.
No, it's not.
It's not.
It's not.
They've moved away from talents that simply give you soul incremental improvements and
have instead tried to give you talents that you notice.
You may find yourself in situations where you're making real meaningful trade-offs, depending
on how you want to build your character.
But that's not all.
Walfraver is huge, and you've got hundreds of brand new items
to look forward to, including all sorts of really fun
and exciting on-use and on-equip effects.
For example, check out this sharpened cutlery I found
backstage, which you can equip as your farm weapon.
And possibly related, we have this grave robber's shovel
for when you want to dig a grave.
Anyway, we've gone through a big variety of updates
and existing items and rewards throughout the games,
check out the title charm now super effective against your seed rollers,
and the white mane, Chippewa, which has
an increased healing and damage done alongside a reduction in the cast time of resurrection spells.
Now, let me touch on race abilities in WoW Forever.
We want to give you reasons to want to spin up a new character and embark on a new journey,
which is why we've done a pass over race abilities to make them feel more distinct,
more unique such that each race has something special to bring
that other brave races do not.
You can see a sneak peek of a few of our upcoming racial passives,
a 5% increase in damage dealt against beasts if you're a dwarf,
and a 5% chance to drain health from your target if you're undead,
but I highly encourage you to check out tomorrow's
Wow Forever deep dive panel
where my friends will go into a lot more detail on what I've teased today.
I've got to be on tomorrow too? Fuck!
I'm an introvert and it's time for me to crawl back into the shadows from whence I came
So I'm gonna go ahead and hand things off to a wonderful production director playstone
Who'll share even more fun and exciting wow forever updates. Okay
You know that
That's like a legendary spell
No, like for real, that's disgusting that's so good
You did a great job, yeah, all the while people have done a great job.
Thanks Nora.
And hello BlizzCon!
My name is Clay Stone and I'm the Associate Production Director on the Wild Classic and Wild Forever team.
So, we've talked a lot about things you might be expecting.
But let's take a minute and talk about some things perhaps you weren't expecting.
Let's start with our rendering updates.
You got to see a bit of this in our gameplay trailer during the opening ceremony.
And admittedly, we went pretty hard.
Not every zone is going to be set at sunrise or sunset all the time.
But I want to make a bold, controversial statement.
We believe WoW Classics art style is timeless.
Which is why our focus was not on changing the game art,
the game art, but on small ways we could push specifically things like the environmental effects.
Yes.
Such as the way rivers now flow in Elwynn Forest.
There it is.
Or the way the fog rolls into duskwood at night.
Oh, there it is. That's right. Okay.
Or the way the moonlight now grates through the leaves of the trees and ash available.
screenshots whenever it would be like that.
It's the same original azoth that players fell in love with all those years ago
with just a few small but powerful effects updates to make it more immersive than ever.
Next let's talk camping. Camping. So in addition to the new profession's content
arriving elsewhere and while forever with camping, we are doubling down on trade skills.
What does this mean?
Almost anywhere in the open world, players can craft a campsite.
Other adventurers can stop by, stay a while and use their trade skills to craft something
for the campsite, granting everyone there a specific buff.
That sounds OP though, right?
When we think about our core pillars and nurturing and protecting social experiences, this is
one of those things we're talking about.
And because players need to sit there for a moment before they gain any buffs, maybe,
just maybe, they just might talk to each other.
Nope.
Nope.
Never.
Legacy system.
What about it?
If camping is us doubling down on trade skills and community, WoW Forever's new legacy system
we'll see us tripling down on an element of Classic
that is only found in Classic.
What is it?
The 1-60 leveling journey.
Poor things.
For as epic as the endgame is,
and I promised you, wow, forever's endgame is epic,
we know that there are some players
who just love the Classic leveling journey.
Yeah, they're casuals, that's what most people do.
Most people don't even hit 60.
Although the legacy system benefits everyone,
It very much aids players who love to run alts,
as they unlock new perks across their alts
by achieving new goals on each new leveling journey.
That's cute.
We are really excited about this one.
Sure.
And how well it fits in the classic
wild design philosophy.
Now, I'd like to switch gears and talk about the community.
Uh-huh, what about it?
And if there's one thing I've learned in my time
as part of this community, it's that players love to debate
what is and is not classic.
I don't get it, I just know I'm right.
discuss in social, in forums, and even make polls.
And if there's one thing every player agrees on,
it's what is Classic Plus?
When I took this survey, I was like, oh my gosh, yes.
Blizzard is gonna see this and we're gonna be able to have proof and say look this is what we want blizzard
Now you can do it in reality after looking at this data. It's like
It's the exact opposite of what I thought
My gosh like it's literally proving
That like nobody knows what they want like that's hilarious except me
Show a YouTube clip.
Since we're all in agreement on what we want.
They should just listen to me.
Let's talk...
...Transmog.
Nope, nope, nope, nope.
Turn it off.
Now, some of you are saying,
Yes, finally.
This is my moment. I feel seen.
But we know.
Some of you are saying, Transmog, not in my Classic Plus.
That's exactly what I'm saying.
That's exactly what I'm saying.
We say, is it too much to ask for both?
Yes.
In WoW Forever, Transmog is entirely opt-in.
If you want to turn it on, it's on,
and everyone you see in the world can look their very best.
But for Classic players, especially those of us
who enjoy world PvP,
many of us want to see other players for who they truly are
and what they've accomplished.
So, turn it off and it's Clown suits for everyone.
I don't know how to feel about that.
Yeah, I don't know how to feel about that.
Throughout the world, you decide.
There is a lot more to learn about the classic modifications
we've made to this system for those who choose to use it.
Let's be honest.
Stop by tomorrow's deep dive panel
to learn a lot more about this,
as well as the camping and latency systems.
If you hate this, you probably hate this at least.
For now, let me move on to another absolutely not
at all controversial topic, character models.
It's a relatively good implementation.
Now, many players enjoy WoW's newer HD character models.
But many of us also feel that classics art style
is timeless, as I said before, and deserves to be preserved, which is why we've made it
completely tolerable, game-wide, your character, the NPCs, other players, together, unified
in either HD or SD.
For fellow classic players, that means you get to see all the beloved original races rendered
in their glorious original SD designs.
And for those of you who prefer a more modern aesthetic, you can go with the modern HD designs.
You can turn DLSS on.
Oh, and there is one more thing.
What is it?
We feel like classics animations are just
as important as its art style.
Here, you will see a newer, modern HD dwarf running
with its modern animation sets.
Now let me show you that same HD dwarf running
while attached to the classic animation sets.
I am so proud to announce that we have gone back and painstakingly restored the classic animations you know and love across the game's HD character models.
Yeah, yeah, because like, whenever you do a normal strike and he goes like that.
No bouncy dwarves in the skin.
Yeah, good.
So let's see, we've talked about a few new zones, the new race, nine new dungeons, two
new raids, classes, systems, but friends, this is only a glimpse of WoW forever.
We simply don't have enough time to talk about new professions content, new reputations,
all the new itemization rewards updates blowing up much of the old meta.
No, no, no.
The new PvP system.
No, the meta was great.
Our first new legendary.
Ooh.
Our change to riding skill to preserve that classic, classic moment
when you finally earn your right to ride your first mount.
Uh-huh.
Our official support of game pads for players who prefer to play using controllers.
Great. Awesome.
Playable this weekend on the show floor in an in-development state, by the way.
Especially better for people that are impaired, you know.
the integration of previously unfinished and unused vanilla wow contents.
Ooh, boa. Oh, boa. That's right. That's right. I'm happy.
But that's all now.
I want to take a second to talk about where we're going.
Okay. What's the, what's the, yeah.
We have learned a lot since season of discovery,
including the benefits of a strong road map,
which is why we are building Well Forever in the way it was originally conceived back in the early 2000s,
but with everything we've learned for the past 25 years.
What did you learn?
A fast-paced production for a slow-paced game,
which will allow us to deliver where we go from here.
We have big plans for the coming months.
You will see new raids unlock on December 9th, followed by even more new raids, new dungeons,
PVP updates, world content, and so much more.
So October 27th.
All in addition to the original vanilla WoW content.
And this includes new quests throughout the leveling 1 through 60 journey, as we add to this
horizontally expanding Evergreen Classic Azeroth.
Fucking base. I'm ready.
I want a 40 man
And I want to take a second to briefly point to that
Major updates box right there in summer at the far end
It's a few words there that say revamped iconic raid. They do say that
There's been a lot of speculation about when this game could take place
Which is why I want to reiterate that this game takes place at the beginning of World of Warcraft and tell stories
authentic to that time period. The original iconic raids that you know and
love have not opened yet and we're excited for you to rediscover them in
the future. But friends this is just a taste of the year of the year ahead and
not even a peak and we were planning to go beyond this. However big you think this
game is based on what you've seen so far I promise you it is so much bigger than
that our ambition is mighty but most importantly we have room to pivot based on community feedback.
Okay good. It's time to brigade. Time to complain. We are building this game with you
and we are not just building for today but for something that lasts and nothing is off the table
not even a new class?
Uh-huh. A demon hunter.
Going back to this road map,
you may have noticed there's a big gap.
Should be demon hunter.
Right there, right around the winter time frame.
Uh-huh.
Let's discuss that.
But first, I want to take a second to talk about a picture.
A picture that was framed and has hung on my wall at Blizzard
since 2023.
Uh-huh.
Hardcore represented a turning point for us.
us as a team.
We had tried a few things before it,
and as Ian covered, we've absolutely tried new things
since.
The hardcore represented the moment
when Blizzard and the community came together
and showed not only why World of Warcraft is one
of the greatest games ever made, but why that original adventure
still holds so much promise for where we could go in the future,
which is why I'm also so proud to announce
that hardcore will be coming to WoW Forever as well.
Fuck that.
Nope.
Please check out the Hardcore Panel tomorrow
for a look at WoW Forever Hardcore.
To me, hardcore was a start of a promise.
And WoW Forever is not some experimental seasonal realm,
nor some recreation of where we've already been.
Wow Forever as a name and a logo represents a promise.
And if you happen to pick up the collector's edition,
we hope you love the logo on the box.
And when you open that box,
we hope you love it on the game box.
And when you see what else is inside that box,
we hope you love...
I'm gonna buy one.
We hope you love your very own Dwarf and Bear statue,
which signifies where this all began, not just with hardcore,
but also way back in November of 2004.
On behalf of the WoW Classic team and the entire World of Warcraft team, thank you.
When I started on Classic,
our dream was to get here.
We are here because of you.
Thank you for being here.
Thank you for your feedback.
Thank you for believing in this dream.
I'll see you in-game on November 4th,
beta starts this Thursday,
and you can play the demo here today.
Have a great listen, everyone.
Goddamn.
Goddamn.
Is it really time to do it all over again?
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Let me turn it down and talk a little bit about it
Everything that I've been hearing
I've been liking
I don't even have any feedback really for it yet
I'm just gonna play it and see what it is
I'm not just going there raw
No more politics? Maybe? Will you play the beta away from release?
release what do you think? What do you think? Yeah, hell yeah, I'm gonna play the fuck out
this year. Well, you're gonna have a few we came out with the fuck out of that too. The
new race cost $30. That's the way it is. They're gonna try and make money however they want.
Unless it has like some exclusive fucking thing like I mean, it is what it is.
Then probably stay safe and rich and McConnell.
Yeah.
The only thing, are you getting back on Asmongold?
It would be funny if I went back on my main channel to stream the game, but I'll probably
just stream it normally.
How can I find and join your guild?
You have to go to, whenever the first day of the beta comes out, you have to go into
the world chat and type invite to Asmong Layer and that will get you an invite to the guild.
So that's what it's gonna be.
Yeah, so we're gonna do...
Yeah, we're so fucking back.
We are, we are back.
Like, I'm actually, yeah, I'm actually gonna play it.
Did they swap it around?
I thought Diablo was before this, I don't know, it's confusing.
But, yeah, anyway.
Rocha, I'm not sure if I'm gonna look at the Warcraft 3 stuff.
I kinda wanna look at some of the other Warcraft stuff
that's happening, but even I don't have time to play GTA N.
Well GTA is just going to be a campaign right and it's over so I don't know which server
I mean like I'm gonna just probably play whichever server everybody's playing on yeah I mean
that's what I'm gonna do I'm gonna supply everything it's a hundred hour long campaign
Well, can I see what you playing? Oh, she getting ignored. Yeah, she getting ignored,
bro. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I don't know really. Yeah, I mean, we got to focus on this game.
Like this, this is literally, I mean, we're talking about World of Warcraft here. All right.
Yeah. Sorry, guys. And yeah, make your pocket healer. Yeah, yeah, I'll teach you. I'm actually
gonna have her play the game. I'll ever play the game. She can be like a I don't
know like the guild maid or something right and she can like organize
maybe we have a guild bank or something and she can like organize that. The beta
is a month long by the way yeah I know I mean like I saw it all. Yeah it'll be fine
and so yeah why don't you like hardcore because I have to pay attention. I don't
like paying attention. I like zoning out and just gaming. Like the moment that I
actually have to pay attention I'm like oh my god I'm not having fun anymore.
Oh, like, and I hate playing it. I hate paying attention.
Get Kaisi to play. Yeah, I'm gonna make her play.
I'll make her play. Don't worry about it.
What happened with your last guild banker?
I've actually had two previous girls steal my guild bank.
So it would only make sense for me to do it for a third time.
You know, go for the hat trick.
I had Korra do it, where she filled the bank up with bread.
And then we have this girl her name was Emmy. It was not Emmy
but like it was another girl her name was Emmy and
She stole money at the guild bank and she said she was stealing it to figure out whether I still cared about the guild
And so like I mean it might as well have another one right I remember her yeah
Forever has stormouts I'm gonna look at everything right so let's pull everything up
I'm gonna find it up and
This is I mean for Warcraft 3. I'm not even really that like fucking
You know into it. I want to look at the other wow stuff and see kind of what's all been
exposed so far and
just a second and
Yeah, and we're gonna look at all that stuff as much as possible because like I haven't seen any of this at all
And so we're gonna kind of go through this and see what what's all what's all available, right?
And because there's been a lot of other content that they've already announced
This is the new Starcraft thing so so before I do that
I want to talk about like just like the birds-eye view opinion I had of blizzcon
So the presentation that they had I think was like really kind of bad like especially the earlier ones for like
Like the the woman at the beginning and then like you know some of the other ones were like kind of bad
But like I don't I don't really care about that. It doesn't really matter like okay
So it's like some random like software engineer doesn't want to talk to a crowd. Okay. Well who cares like it doesn't doesn't really matter
Nobody gives a shit. So but anyway
The Starcraft trailer was fucking awesome. It was absolutely fucking amazing
It was so cool and it was actually better than I had expected
So I'm yeah 2030 is very annoying, but that was it. It just dragged a bit. Yeah, I did drag a bit no gameplay though
Yeah, I know but the trailer was really good, right? So it's definitely it's definitely that
Let me see. I'll pull up. Oh my god. Look at all these new updates. We're out reddit
Okay, let me just pull up the reddit. It's gonna have all the information
So this is a cinematic trailer for the game
It releases as in seven six weeks, which is fucking insane
Retail will be dead because this is what happens runescape to I don't think that's going to happen
I think retail wow and classic wow are just so fundamentally different that you know, that's it and
And classic plus achievement, no AI slop this time, spend 10 years discussing a game that does not exist, reward the hopeful.
Yeah, it actually happened though. That's what's crazy.
Primary name and secondary name and character creation. Oh, okay, they're doing what Final Fantasy has.
That'll be really nice. Hopefully I can get them to reserve my name. I don't know, but we'll see what happens.
I'm not crying, you're crying, we're all crying to be honest.
So what do people think about this? Playing Human Warrior confirmed?
Same the sky elf leak was real. Yeah, it was and
It was actually like the way it was told to me was different, but you know, that was it
I cried a little not gonna lie dwarf shaman is here boys. It looks incredible. Fuck the doomers
Okay, honestly behind my expectations. The blue thing is kind of boring, but anyways. Yeah, I think that's totally fine
It looks incredible dude. Yeah undead paladin. I'm crying 21 years. Yeah, it should never happened
should have never happened. And why not just do high elves and ogres? I mean I
don't know. This is gonna ruin my life. I'm so scared. So we got elves again. The
ogre dream is over guys. The reason why they added elves, here's I think the
reason why this sounds stupid, is that they want to give horde characters
that girls want to play. And girls don't want to play as a fat green retard. So
like they want to add like a character for like girls to play on horde that
like they want to play because I remember like somebody telling me that like almost all the people
that like were girls were playing Blood Elves in like Burning Crusade, right? So I think that's
really what makes sense, right? It's like a sausage fest over on the Horde and anyway, so it's
happening, I code, I'm so fucking happy I can't explain it into words. Yeah, I mean like I am,
I'm like I'm cautiously optimistic I am and I would even say I mean like I am
I'm excited. I am I'm excited. I'm looking forward to playing this game. I'm gonna play it a lot, right?
I mean, that's it. So yeah, it looks great
My mom put that was an undead. Yeah, there you go, right and so
You know, I'm actually happy this game is coming out. Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna play this a lot when it comes out
Of course 30 seconds into blizzcon work Camelot. Yeah, this was the I think that was the I think it was a codename for it or something
Classic plus you're just gonna be blizzard re-releasing cataclysm, but very blurry
That is kind of funny, but I don't think that's really yet character level 50 boost day one. Is this even true?
One of I mean okay wait you can get a level 50 boost on the first day wait what?
dude I'm gonna out vote this I'm gonna vote it I'm like yeah bro what no way yeah
he's trying just to get just to just to get a man man just to get a pissed off so
yes they're gonna be achievements there's meta level 8 there are meta leveling
achievements but that's it it's blizzcon let me just look at the the basic
wow subreddit 2 and I'll see what people are saying about it and World Warcraft
forever, holly with the absolute drip. Yeah, I think she did a great job with the transmog and
everything. I like Holly. I think that she's nice. And, you know, like people, I think that
it was really funny that they said, we hear you and we're putting the war back into Warcraft.
After she said that thing on that podcast, we're like, Oh, we don't know if we wanted to have
war in Warcraft because people wouldn't want to play it. And then like everybody went fucking
apeshit about that they got so mad and so yeah she did well on stage yeah she
seems nice i like her and so
yeah she actually gets a fuck yeah she came from the ever quest team before
she worked at wow
so it only took them twenty years
while uh... as somebody who uh... has driven down i-35
only twenty
so yeah i don't have a lot else to say alright
and uh... anyway what is this here can i find the other ones is somebody got
married over a while, good for them. And okay, so regarding the old meme, don't forget you're here
forever. Yeah, there you go. And so finally, my faction is level 60 Pandaren. That's cool.
The Avernize and Blizzard wanted you to see, but wasn't able to show you. Yeah, I mean,
obviously, this is, yeah, this is great. And anyway, what's this here? The last Titan,
Tresor, Colossal. Yeah, I don't know what that's going to be at all. Zalatath going to Heroes of
the storm. I don't even know why that got announced. So, um, yeah, anyway, let me go
back and look at some of the other stuff that they came out. And, uh, yeah, this looks
great. Night Elf Forsaken and Dark Spear Paladins. Oh, this is all like a retail stuff. I'm
not really too interested in that. Uh, so yeah, I bought two Quector's editions. I'm
going to buy one after my stream today. I might just try to buy like five. I don't want to
scout, right? I'd be buying them for other people, maybe give one or two away on stream
or something, but like I feel like it's like you have to you know it's like
there's a you know an ethics and honor code right it's three house per limit oh
that's actually good yeah then I'd just buy three of them and you know I'd
probably give them to like a couple of friends and then that would be it so does
have a price tag yet it's probably like a few under bucks right that's about it
let me just really they'll likely be sold out soon yeah I mean if I miss it I
can just probably buy one you know secondhand or something it's I'm not too
worried about it but you know we'll see what happens. So yeah and I don't know
what any of this shit is and I'm fucking scared playing retail. Yeah I don't blame
you man. So yeah it looks like it's so you know $178 right? That's like nothing
man. I expected it to be a lot more honestly. I thought I'd be like $400 or
$500 so especially with the statue and everything. I'm afraid it'll be a
hybrid of classic and retail this can be really bad and also really good. Well
look I mean like again they said that they're open to feedback and they're
to listen to what players say. These are the things that I really, so the big issue that I have is that
I'm really worried about how they're going to handle the economy. That's the biggest worry that
I have with the new game because when the economy becomes fake and everybody is trading gold,
so like if people are buying WoW tokens and like retail WoW or they're trading like Rathadalichkin
gold for classic gold, that's going to be really problematic. And also, I don't want
them to get rid of GDKP. I thought it was a big mistake for them to get rid of GDKP.
I think it's a controversial thing, but fundamentally, I don't want to see them make any restrictions
on player behavior that's based off of people cheating. I don't want to feel like I'm being
restricted by the game, because they don't want to enforce the terms of service.
GDKP causes gold buying? No, it doesn't. You know what causes gold buying? Blizzard not
enforcing the terms of service. That's what causes gold buying. So if Blizzard wants to,
that's like saying having a rating in Arena causes people to kick bot. Well, that's bullshit.
I mean, just ban the people that are kick botting. So I mean, I'm totally against that
entire mindset I am and you make gold from gdkp yeah I really love gdkp I was doing gdkp as early
as wrath of the lich king I know that like in China they were doing it and like in burning crusade
but like in in uh America like it didn't really come in until like wrath but like we were doing it
like as soon as it came in during like to gc and fucking icc like I was doing it all the time and
Yeah, that's it. Why are you just talking politics? We need you. Guys, there's a reason why I streamed so long.
It's so I have time to do everything. So just be patient. I'll talk about some bullshit. I saw Hassan got sued or something like that.
I don't want to talk about that right now because I'm focused on the game because this is a big update day for the game.
And I've played this game for 20 years, so you're just going to have to be patient. Okay.
Anyway, so what I was trying to get at was that like making sure that the economy works properly in World of Warcraft
is crucial to making the game have permanence and meaning.
And I just really worry that, so that's one concern that I have.
I guess like so, let me just notepad.
I'm just going to make a notepad concerns, concerns I have with WoW Forever.
And these are just things I'm thinking about.
new zones that are optimized, better optimized, causing people to ignore old zones and quests.
So this is another big concern that I have is that this is always kind of happened. It
happened, do you guys remember in Duskwall Marsh, whenever they added a bunch of the
new quests to the Duskwall Marsh, this was in, I don't remember when this was, it was
like Wrath of the Lich King or Burning Crusade and it made Duskwall Marsh one of the worst
questing zones and it turned it into one of the best questing zones and it changed the
way that people played the game. So I think that you need to worry about that and avoid
accidentally putting yourself in a TBC prepatch. Yeah, it was something like that. It was a
long, long, long time ago. So number one concerns bobbing. Yeah. And also like, yeah, people
cheating like just I mean obviously like I think cheating is a huge issue and so
like the biggest thing is RMT if people are able to buy gold with real money it's
bad and I think that Blizzard really needs to crack down like I mean you have
like I mean Blizzard I know it's a woke California company but can you guys just
use AI to figure some of this shit out. Like just figure out like, can you use
use AI to reverse engineer the gold buyers and what they're doing, and then
just ban all of them? Like, look, look, I know AI is really bad, but just do this.
You can't prevent it. You're never going to prevent it. It's not about preventing
it. It's about lowering it to a degree that doesn't affect the entire game. So
it's never about preventing anything. Like you don't prevent murder. We have a
against murder. It doesn't prevent murder. People are still speeding and drinking and driving and
everything. The goal is about a reduction. It's about a reduction and approaching zero. It's not
about reaching zero. It's about approaching zero. So that's what I would say. And OSRS
spans millions of bots a month. Yeah, it's not worth it. They're in the most money from it. Well,
anyway, so that's really the main thing. I want 40 man raids. This is just my opinion,
but I think that 40 man raids, so classic WoW, one of the reasons why I think classic WoW was so good
is that you didn't need everybody with a pulse. There were a lot of people that didn't have a pulse.
I'll give you an example. McConnell would run around and only spam rank one flash of light
as a protest because I didn't give him the judgment helm because he didn't want to heal
and he wanted to play red and I gave it to my friend that ironically I had actually known longer
than McConnell. I had known this guy literally for 20 years. Oh, now I've known him for 20 years,
then it was 15 years because we played together in original TBC. We killed Brutalis pre-nerf
together. So, you know, like this is so that that was my boy. And so and he also was the healing
officer. Paladini got the helmet over McConnell, which was justified. And so McConnell was was
was complaining about that. And he, they're doing 40 man Annexius layer. Yeah, but Annexius
layer was 40 man to begin with. Like that doesn't count. So I want to have large scale
40 man raids that don't have pass fail mechanisms like Thaddeus. I don't want to have it to
where you need to have all 40 people alive. So this was a mistake that lost dark made
as well, where they were trying to prevent, they called it over in that game, busing,
basically carries. I don't want to have carry functionality. I think that you already have
some soft versions of that, for example, like Cthun's Eyebeam and Thaddeus as well. And there's a
few other mechanics and mechs that kind of require everybody to be on their toes. But overall,
I think that really making the game hard should be secondary to making it rewarding and making
it feel fun to play and I really don't want them to go down the route of creating difficult content
for the sake of it being difficult and they explicitly said they're not going to do this
so I'm not saying that they will but I'm worried about this happening. I think 40 man raids should
be completable by 30 people that's basically it and 30 like like best in slot pristine players
right that way obviously 40 people you can afford to carry some dead weight somebody can bring like
let's say a girl with them let's say you have a girl that's visiting from Canada and she doesn't
know how to fuck to play the game but you still want to bring her to the raid and give her all
the loot instead of your friends you've known for 10 years right so i figured i'm gonna have kaisi
play a paladin. I think I'm gonna have her play a rep paladin in the rig.
Can you imagine that?
Can you imagine dude?
If I gave her sulfurous over McConnell?
I'm like, well, I mean, she has been at all the guild meetings, right?
So yeah, and oh man, but we'll figure that out.
We're gonna, we're gonna grow content for years.
It's gonna be a really good time.
So anyway, I do think that you should be able to carry people that are kind of shitty.
And that's, that's I think a good thing.
It's a very good thing.
So such an oddly specific example.
And so anyway, got a hook in your upper, we all die.
yeah definitely but uh... what i'm saying is that like you you have a forty
men raids so what else on i also i also want
solo challenges like the hunter bow
thing
uh... or mage tower
uh... i think it's solo challenges that are class specific is the best way
for there to be skill expression in classic while
i think that's the best way to do skill expression in classic while
because at that point you have people that are basically like okay well
they don't really know everything about the game but they can learn how to do
these different mechanics and they can also do raids and get better gear
so the rock door ban add-ons yeah i also this is going to be a big one
I know this is going to be controversial, but I actually don't want add-ons.
And here's why I don't want add-ons.
Because a player, so let me just go ahead and just kind of, uh, I'm going to just make
an MS pane.
Like this is just a simple graph.
I like explaining things with graphs.
So basically, let me think of a good way to explain that, that's not a good way to look
at it.
Okay, so this is a good player, or sorry, this is a bad player, and this is a good player.
And this is a good player with add-ons.
The problem is that bad players that are new to the game don't have add-ons because they
don't know anything about the game.
So really, the, like, let's say, basically add-ons work as a force multiplier to increase
the gulf between a average player and a hardcore player that's really good.
And it does so in a way that's artificial, and it's not tied to game mechanics.
It's tied to an outside tool that's being used to gain an advantage.
And I don't like that.
I think that's cheap and it's cheesy,
and I don't wanna have that added into the game.
So the only thing that I'd wanna have for add-ons
would be things, and they've already done this.
So, you know, turn back the time, 16 years.
There was an add-on in Wrath of the Lich King called AVR,
and AVR was a tool that could read the animations
and then project where the inputs of the animations
would be from things like Rotface and Festergut bombs.
Like that was a really popular one because it was in ICC.
And Blizzard disabled that add-on
because they thought that it trivialized the game.
And I agreed with them.
And the problem also is that when an add-on
that provides you with an extra level of functionality
or game awareness has, it becomes mandatory.
That's also the big issue with things like weak auras
and deadly boss mods and everything else,
is that now it becomes a mandatory inclusion.
So I think that the way that bosses should be designed
is that there should be tells based off of either timings
or the way the boss is, right?
Like for example, like Gar is like this,
like you know what's going to happen with Gar
because whenever you kill the small mobs, Gar attacks faster.
Another example is a mana bar.
So whenever a certain, you know,
boss's mana bar fills up, a spell happens.
So I think that's really, yeah, vocal cues
or something like that, right?
So I think that add-ons create a artificial disparity
between players that are already predisposed to be better
and it creates a larger difference
between the skill gap in the game
and it makes the game experience less uniform
and it makes it also like this is like a third,
this is like a third order effect, right?
I just think that the movie and Gapol game design
community weren't able to pick up the dev slack, the game would also be trash and unplayable.
You're right. I think that's the best argument against that, right? It's like,
you know, if we didn't have add-ons, the game would still have garbage mechanics,
but bake things in a base UI. Yeah, things should either be baked into the base UI,
or they should not be allowed, right? That's how Final Fantasy 14 does it,
where everything's scripted by queues. Yeah, exactly. Like, there's a lot of queues that people
have. So could it also, when we see this here, could it also be argued that if you don't research
about add-ons as a wild player, it's kind of your own fault. Yeah, it is, but I don't think that
researching to use third-party tools in order to play a video game should be part of the metrics
for how a player is evaluated for if they're effective in the game, right? And also, you have
to look at what's the bottom line with this, right? The bottom line with this is that players that
don't use these add-ons will be at a disadvantage, and they will be excluded from content and feel
compelled to use them. So if you make it an option, you make it a requirement. That's just what
happens. It's kind of like, oh, yeah, let's go and do this raid, and we're only going to use this
gear. Well, no, people are going to use whatever gear they can, right? That's why everybody would
use world buffs, right? For example. So I'm aware of add-ons. I just don't care really. Yeah. And
again, like this is all for, you know, the game. And I think that creating like some level of like,
like, you know, like player tranquility. And they say anything about group finding about group finding. No, they didn't. No group. No automatic group finder.
Add group finder.
That's not man. What's what's the opposite of automated manual?
So, basically, I think that you should be able to open up an icon and you should be
able to see all the other people that are looking to make a group for Scarlet Monastery
and you should be able to just message that person, hey, I want to join your group for
Scarlet Monastery.
That to me is better than everybody's spamming in a chat.
I think spamming in a chat is really bad and I think having a lobby feature like that is
totally okay.
It's basically like a bulletin board, or like how Mythic Plus is now in retail now.
But I do not want automatic group matching.
I think that players should need to actually make an interaction and make and communicate
themselves in order to join a group.
No group finder is way, while I just grew with you for once, LOL, no group finder is
way too nice.
I think that it is, but here's the problem, is that if you don't have group finder, again,
We have to be realistic.
We have to be smart.
If you don't have Group Finder, people are just going to make discords, and they're
going to do it over Discord.
That's what's going to happen.
So instead of trying to make people rely on third-party programs in order to play the
game in a functional way, implement that functionality into the game, and let me give you a great
example of a parallel game that did something similar to this, is that in Path of Exile
there was a problem where people were macroing their flasks.
So there was like a piano in your flask
where you would hit all of them at the same time, right?
And so instead of actually making it
to where you weren't able to do that
and banning people for macroing,
what they did is they added in functionality
that made those flasks effectively autoplay themselves.
So some flasks would always be active.
So like if it wasn't active, it would activate.
Another flask would activate whenever you get frozen.
and it was like an anti-freeze flask.
Another flask would activate
whenever you got to low health, right?
And they were called instilling orbs.
So what I'm saying is that to take the GGG approach,
grinding your games approach,
and add and look at adding more instilling orbs
rather than taking away functionality
in order to try to force people to play a certain way.
Think of like instilling orbs,
I think we're one of the most brilliant implementations
of a function in a game that I've ever seen.
So just think about it like that,
Like Mage Blood? Yeah, Mage Blood's another great way to look at it.
Yeah, they never really solved it.
In-game autoflask modifiers trash, they just roached.
I don't know, I think it totally solved it for me personally,
but I can't speak for every class and every person.
So yeah, and what about PvP Rank Decay?
I don't really have an opinion on that.
You'd probably have to ask guys like Ziko and Chance
and everybody else that really cares about PvP and Classic WoW.
I think PvP and MMOs is stupid.
If I wanna play PvP, War Dogs just came out
I'd rather just play war dogs and also like I think that MMO PVP the focus should always be around having battles like Helm's deep
Rather than having a gladiators arena
That's at least the way I look at it is that like I like the idea of world PVP, but I like it in a
basically untamed way where it's not created around like a functionality and
That's really and I just think that PVP here's the reality, right?
is that PvP just isn't...
The game's not made around PvP, it's made around PvE.
PvP is a minigame, and PvP used to play a much bigger role in Classic WoW
than it does now in Retail WoW, but fundamentally, I just don't want to play...
There's another big issue that...
And this is just a big issue, right? Is that...
MMOs and PvP are like antithetical to each other.
Because people that play and want to get involved with PvP games generally want to compete on the even playing field
They don't want to queue in like for example like imagine what it would be like if you queued in the CS go and
Or you see us to and you are fighting against somebody that has like you know a weapon
That does like way more damage because they've been playing for 20 years, right or something like that
people don't want to do that and so like really
The MMOs are based around continuous character progression and character advancement and
building up a character and developing a character, and PVP is based around basically competing
on an even playing field.
Most people will not choose, and here's a very, very simple way of looking at this,
right?
So, a lot of people like to say, I like to fight something, I like to go into a fight
thinking that I'm outnumbered or outgunned, but every piece of observable information
that we can discern from WoW proves that that's not actually the case. It proves that a lot of
people don't actually want to go in and play a game where they are artificially handicapped
and they're weaker, right? So, yeah, I think that having battlegrounds and putting them out there
and letting people do them like Arathi Basin and also Wreck Valley and everything is great,
But that should never be the main focus.
The bad take. Well, let me explain.
So if you think it's a bad take, then why did almost every single PVP server
and classic WoW go one faction?
It's because people actually don't want to play like that.
That's the real reason it's because people actually don't want to do that.
They think they want to do that until they engage in it for a longer period of time.
And then they choose to do something different.
So that's it.
Like so, again, people say this.
I don't care what people say.
We all have, we have 20 years of data for this.
Like, there's no reason that we have to listen to what people are saying.
Like, we can just listen to what they've done.
So, that's what's going to happen.
People want to be on the winning team. They do.
So, and, uh, yeah, I don't play PvP or World PvP or World of Warcraft.
You have to have a horde versus alliance.
I think that, again, World PvP, like, this is going to be maybe a hot take.
The purest and best form of PvP and World of Warcraft is World PvP.
I had the most fun I've ever had in World of Warcraft PvP in three different points in time
The first point in time was in the middle of Wrath of the Lich King when I was like 25 or 2600 rated in
2v2 and I had this Paladin that I would play with and we would queue and like play arena, right? That was fun
I think it's fair to acknowledge that
that. But the other two, the second time that I had the most fun, and that was I think the
least of the three, the second time that I had the most fun was when I was, this was the Mists of
Pandaria pre-patch, and in Cataclysm they added mass cross server world pvp. And so like you would
have world pvp happening, like the dark portal was like the, do you remember like, so this is like
wow war right but like in uh in the so like whenever you go through the dark portal and you go down
into like where manor off is all of the all of the the like uh asphalt there isn't asphalt those
are bones of draenei literal draenei bones the path of gory that that that's what that that's
what it is and the orcs put those there just to let them know the way it is right and so back in
today, the Dark Portal was the path of glory. Every single area that you would go to was full of
dead people. It was full of dead people. Everybody, like there were skeletons fucking everywhere.
And you would have these gigantic world PvP battles with like fucking like 300 people. And it was so
fucking fun. It was amazing. And there was no skill really involved other than the broad strategy
strokes that you would take, right? Or it's like, oh, let's fly down on them and AOE them down.
It was so fun. And then the third time that I had the most fun ever PvPing in my life,
the main one, I'd say these two are equal, is whenever they first introduced the honor system
in classic World of Warcraft, and I would just run down in World PvP, and I would 1v1 whoever
shows up. If it's a mage, I sweat my ass off and I probably die. And if it's a rogue, I
win. And that to me, World PDP riding around, seeing a hunter over there, charging the hunter,
the hunter fainting, like, you know, all of that, that was the, that was the experience,
That was the true like best experience if I had was the open-world world PvP that I would do off stream
I think that doing it on stream especially with how it's popular the stream was comparatively back then like we were getting like
Fucking we were getting as many viewers as we have now back in like
2019 it was ridiculous how many people were watching the stream
So what happened is that like it became like it's very hard to world PvP 1v1
whenever you have like 50 to 100,000 people watching the show right because like somebody wants to come in and
Like you can't have a 1v1 that being said whenever I played off-stream. Oh
my god, oh
My god, it was so fucking fun. It was amazing
so
Has been gold yeah
and
Like I mean I why I don't want to again. I'm not really like I'm not the best player
I'm not like I always I always thought I was very good at making strategies and like, you know figuring out like ways to do things
Like, you know like guides for like farming gold or farming items
I think that I was always really good at that that was always my biggest strength
But like my actual skill in the game, you know, I'd say I was like a seven or an eight really
But like all the people that you guys are seeing all the time or like, you know
these people are like solid 10s, right? So yeah, like that's about it. But and like I was never
really like super, super good. But anyway, I think the focus they should have is on world PVP.
They should have the focus on world PVP, and around creating those, in a lot of cases, asymmetric
interactions, but also interactions that feel like it's World of Warcraft, rather than a,
You know MOBA or like a you know arena or something like that
So Diablo 5 shows starting now. Oh really? Okay. Let me see it. I
Am gonna watch Diablo 5
Yeah, I want to watch this world PAP should be for resources
Yeah, yeah, let's let's take a look at that
And I think that the other Warcraft panel is just going to be about retail, which like
I'm not really that excited about.
I'm not super interested in it.
Servers and layers.
I think servers and layers are a technical limitation and in a perfect world there would
be no servers or layers.
would just exist extemporaneously. It just depends on what's possible. Like, I don't
like the idea of servers. I do think that layers are necessary, and I know that people
might not want to hear this, but like we saw this with Ashes of Creation, for example,
where you just you weren't able to do anything. Like you like you like the idea of sitting
in line to do a quest sounds really cool but whenever you're doing it and
everybody is spamming and you don't know how to do it and you don't have an
instant cast spell and it's like you know it's just really annoying so like I
mean you have to be realistic about it if you make somebody wait like 30 minutes
to do a two-minute quest that's not really going to be fun and people are
just gonna quit like and that's what happens with Ash's creation I think
that's just that's player behavior. So I don't think that you should add and I think that you should have mob tagging, but at the same time, you shouldn't force people to have to, you know, compete at that level.
So yeah, more servers, less layers. I honestly think that there should be server clusters and server clusters are basically like there's basically like, I get they did this in New World, where you can like it
would kind of like battle groups but where you can interact and see people from the other world.
Well, I don't know. I have to really think about it. I think layers. Like how about this? Well,
let me just take a step back. Bigger servers, more layers. That's what I really want. Because
clusters are just another way of me saying that. Like I want a bigger servers that were like you
can have like, you know, 100,000 people on the server or something like that. Like, I mean,
I mean, obviously it might not be possible, but like,
but there are layers.
Is this Dota 3?
It was supposed to be, but it wasn't.
Is WoW Forever standalone?
It certainly is, yes.
ESO did it?
Yeah, and that's what I want.
I would prefer that.
I would enjoy that more.
I think that would be better.
No layers ruin the immersion.
Turtle WoW was fine just without layers.
Turtle WoW was a small private server
that was not a really home to that many people.
Whenever you have an official server from Blizzard,
you're gonna have a totally different dynamic
of how many people are playing,
how many people you need to accommodate,
and everything else.
So, total out at 30K people.
Yeah, I'm assuming that there's probably going to be
more people than that playing on these servers, right?
So, that's it.
And I'm scared of botting, it will not be addressed.
Botting and cheating is going to be
one of the biggest issues.
It will be one of the biggest and most annoying issues.
But I do think that they should have dynamic spawns.
If you don't have layering, I think that you need layering.
But let's say you don't have layering,
you need dynamic spawning.
So like, let's say there's like 50 people in an area
and they're all fighting for one quest guy,
that quest guy needs to spawn more often, right?
And it needs to be dynamic.
So make each zone a server.
Well, I think that's different.
I don't like that personally
because then you don't see people that you saw like 30 hours ago or two days ago.
And you're playing beta on Thursday. Yeah, of course I am.
You can make WoW servers and 1000 plus AI players right now. Yeah, I saw that actually.
Why don't you inform a game studio or make an MMO game the way you want it?
Because I don't want to. I've never wanted to be a game designer or a game developer.
I just simply like playing video games and I enjoy doing it as like a, you know,
a way to kill time. I'm really passionate about video games. I love video games. I spend almost all
my time playing video games, but I don't want to make video games. I know that like there's a lot
of people I guess that grow up that like that would they want to be developers or something.
I never have felt that way. I just I don't and not even not in like a bad way either. I just don't
really give a shit about it. Yeah.
You know, I found Turtlewild teams in MMO. Yeah, just fun Turtlewild teams in MMO.
I feel like Blizzard probably brought, like, this is what I bet. I bet Blizzard probably
looked at what Turtlewild was doing and what a lot of these other private servers were doing,
like Ascension, and they were like, okay, time to steal this. And that's what Blizzard always did
best, you know, is that they were really good at stealing other people's ideas and then men
in maxing them and making them as good as possible and then making it their own.
Is that just you can say that because you're positioned right now?
No, I've always felt that way.
Like I only took one programming class whenever I was in college and my major was in business
administration and then I was pursuing a second degree in computer information systems, which
Which is like really about mainly, I was mainly doing things about like, you know, process optimization and like, you know, like, you know, process building, like that's what I, like it's basically optimizing things, like the same as they did with my old videos.
It's, I just, I really like doing that. It's like, I'm German. Okay. So, that's just the way it is.
Anyway, so yeah, I used to be a lawyer. I actually was going to go to UT wall or Baylor wall.
I was trying to get all all good scores. No, you're not. Well, I don't know. It's someone my dad told me
but you know who knows and
German and Jewish German Irish and Scottish primarily and
So yeah, and I would say it probably mainly like German Irish
Scottish like in that order
But anyway, it might be Irish even more than German, but I'm not even really sure
You know have to do the DNA test and figure it out
So yeah, what are your thoughts on classes?
by the way, how much you change, how much you shouldn't change.
Every class should be viable, but every function should also be viable.
So basically, you shouldn't make warriors really good at self-healing.
You shouldn't make mages be able to tank.
You shouldn't allow rogues to be able to heal themselves.
You shouldn't give a priest the ability to counterspell.
I think that the main thing you need to do
is you need to make sure that in classic WoW,
Druids were insane Swiss army knives. They could do a battle res in combat and also they were really great at putting heels over time
And they had mark of the wild
Paladins were the best fucking healers for a main tank and on top of that
they were plates, so they were super durable and PvP and
They had insanely good buffs warriors were the best DPS and the best main tanks, right?
Um, let's let's see besides that warlocks had insane raid utility
They could do three or four different things that no other class could do they could make health stones
They could summon people they could do things that nobody else in the game could do and that's what made them valuable a hunter
Could make the entire raid run 30% faster. That was insane. So but warrior camp draft of souls
The DOS. That's the only DOS. What's the other DOS?
Draft of Souls. Do you talk about like the flask? Yeah, you should be able to use the flask.
They should change that.
Paladin's got a 4-second taunt now.
Yeah, I'll be curious. Okay, alright, here we go. Here's the Diablo. Here's the Diabler. Diabler 5.
Okay.
Alright, let's see it.
Diabler 5, Tesla 5, this is Diabler.
Hello BlizzCon, my name is Johanna.
Today, we are here to discuss a monumental moment for the Diabler franchise at the unveiling of Diabler 5.
We have some pretty incredible developers behind this game joining us today.
Let's first. Oh, that's I thought they were going to be
guarded. My name is Matt and I'm the executive producer on Diablo 5.
I'm super excited to be here and grateful for the opportunity. Thank you.
Hey everyone, I'm Tiffany. I'm the senior production director on Diablo 5.
I've had the awesome opportunity to work with both Joe and John on Diablo 3
and Diablo 4 and we got the team back together to work on Diablo 5.
Hi everyone, I'm Joe.
Do you have a phone, Joe?
I'm Senior Game Director on Diablo 5 and it's great to see everyone.
It feels like it's been a while.
It's great.
Do you remember back whenever Diablo 4 came out in his Harris Brown?
I was fairly new to Diablo but I have been writing games for the past 20 years, mostly
dark fantasy, so I was so stoked to be able to jump into the eternal conflict as Narrative
director on Diablo five. They just brought in some random 55 year old grandma. Okay.
Hello BlizzCon. Honestly, I bet women like that have written some of the most base stories.
I'm the senior art director on. So I'm going to keep my mind open.
15 last time we were on stage together was way back in 2019 when we announced Diablo
four. And I'm really happy to be back here today and say that we are hard at work on
Diablo 5. Awesome. Well, thanks everyone. And as a Diablo player and fan, I'm psyched and
honored to be on the stage with all of you. So let's get into it. Joe, break it down for us.
What does a team want to share with players today? Yeah, the panel is going to cover a lot of ground.
I'm going to talk about story, world, some classes, and a bit about gameplay, and even a little bit
about itemization. Great. But before we dive in further let's take another look at the teaser.
Okay. Let's see it.
The game is four years away. No guys this one's only three years away.
You know, it's gonna be really funny, it's when Diablo 3 for Diablo 5 comes out, and
the Poe 3 comes out, and there's an argument between whether Diablo 5 or Poe 3 is better.
Just like Diablo 2 and 4 with Poe 2, and Poe 1 and Diablo 3.
They have to do it.
So much unpacked.
March is definitely burning and it seems like something's gone terribly wrong. So what story are you trying to tell here? Oh, no
Yeah, we're a long way from the campfire
From its comfort and hope
Those are the fires of Diablo
Jesus Christ has been destroyed. Has it really been that bad for you, man?
Geez and Matt I'm curious when building the next era. Are you okay? What has guided you and the team on this?
Yeah, so when we, you know, started talking about what's the next era of Diablo needs to look like and what we want to do with it,
we really started the conversation thinking about players, right? The whole reason we're here is to make games that our players want to play.
Yeah, sure.
And for Diablo, after 30 years, we've accumulated a very large player base with lots of different wants and wants from a Diablo game.
And it's important, and when we think about what we want to build, and the decisions we have for the game,
that we're making a Diablo game that is for every type of Diablo player, whether that's somebody who is here for the story and the vibes and the dark fantasy or somebody who is referred to grind bosses and fine loot and min-max their build and kind of perfect their character and then kind of everybody who falls in between.
And so when we started talking about breaking ground on the next Diablo experience, we really started there.
We were looking for themes across our player groups, you know, how players cluster together into different groups,
so that when we're talking about the features and the content and the ideas for what we want to build,
we can always kind of anchor it back on which type of Diablo player is this part of the game most for.
So after we started, you know, kind of getting through that phase of breaking down and understanding our players,
spent a lot of time looking at Diablo 4 and thinking about what worked well about that
game, how it's grown over the years in response to player feedback, and where we had ambitions
to try something new and bring fresh ideas to the world of Diablo.
And it was that conversation that led us to start thinking about, you know, do we do this
as an expansion?
Naturally.
Or do we do this as a sequel?
Sequels allow us to do something really special to a game, especially a long-standing game
like Diablo, where we can get in and really change the fundamentals of what the game is.
And that's really hard to do when you're building on top of a game that's been around for several
years, has had several expansions and seasons.
A stewed observation.
I mean, there's fundamental changes to what the game is and how it's structured that
we felt were really necessary to chase the ambition that we had for the next phase of
Diablo.
We really needed to build a new game.
And of course, we want to bring Diablo back.
We've all been hungry for seeing him yes presented in a Diablo game for the first time so you'll see him and
We need to do him justice right like
Mephisto and Lilith now they can sell same cosmetics
Yeah, with great stories and lots of depth to who they are and how they operate in the world of sanctuary and Diablo
Deserves that and more and tell the truth Matt. Yes, one of us wanted to tell you fine
That his brother gets his own game and he doesn't.
He popped me.
We really didn't want to tell Diablo no.
So it became clear to us pretty early on
that to really do justice for what players want out
of a Diablo game, to give Diablo a game that he deserves,
to really tell the story of Diablo,
we needed to do a sequel.
So once we started wrapping our heads around the sequel,
everything kind of flowed from there.
Naturally.
Great.
And Jennifer, I'm curious, how did the narrative team approach
the story worthy of this.
What are they talking about?
So like Matt was saying,
once we decided that this game
was going to bring Diablo back,
we knew we had to do it right.
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