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09-13-2026 · 9h 47m
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Good morning guys, how y'all doing?
Good morning, how y'all doing?
I just woke up a little bit ago.
It looks like we've got an event going on
in about like 50 to 45 minutes.
So I wanted to be on for that.
It's going to be the classic WoW update stuff.
So we're going to take a look at everything.
Be even earlier tomorrow.
Just relax, man.
I've been looking.
I've been trying to get as early as I can be, all right?
So I don't know if we could do anything more than that.
And you get to play retail WoW ever again.
I don't know, man.
I really don't know.
I mean, like, I'd say never say never.
Well, whenever the new expansion comes out,
the last Titan or whatever it is, I'll play that.
Yeah, sure, I'll play it.
But, you know, to me, I'm a classic Andy.
I am, I'm a classic Andy.
I like classic WoW.
I wanna go back to the way it used to be.
And that's it, man.
Soon we get a normal nine to five.
I mean, I hope not, right?
But I'll be honest, like, waking up at 11,
this is gonna sound weird.
waking up at twelve has been annoying to me
but waking up before eleven has been easy
i don't know it's like maybe a sarkadian rhythm fucking shit like i i have no idea
but uh... i feel a lot more late than i did yesterday i tell you that
so i know stream tomorrow well i hope i'll be on the maro i mean i never make
plans but uh... hopefully i will be you know we'll see what happens i'm not
just started today
fucking relax
so uh... anyway i gotta get this shit ready and everything
So where's the BlizzCon schedule? I gotta find this and we'll get everything sorted out.
BlizzCon schedule, just so we're all on the same page here, and Maystay, there it is,
and so we got Sundy, and this is the one that we're waiting on right here.
The Whirl of Warcraft, Deep Dive. Oh, that's a big one. Give me a second, I have allergies.
Excuse me. Alright, so anyway, yes, did you pre-order the collector's edition? Totally
forgot. Completely forgot. By the time that I ended my stream yesterday, did I walk down-
I was gonna walk down to the store, but then I was feeling lazy and I just drove down
to the store. And let's see, besides that, what else did I do? Yeah, nothing really
else besides that that was it and yeah what a miracle sending kitchen no I'm
chilling man and you know we got a lot to go through today hopefully this deep
dive is gonna be interesting everything that came out yesterday was pretty cool
man and it's you see people bitching about the jurors past they want more
accountability for the juror than the child murdered I mean haha yeah I saw
a little bit of that with the Lindsey Clancy stuff there's this is so stupid
I mean like I I don't even know how like
It's insane to me that I don't know like I mean I could go into it and talk about it, but I mean again
You know, we're gonna look at the wow stuff and everything else you think blizzard would sponsor you for a classic plus cream
I wouldn't if I was them. I wouldn't because they know I'm gonna scream it anyway
I'm gonna play it anyway, so it's like why would they want to do that?
I don't want to give me money for something. I'm already gonna do so no
I don't really I don't think that's gonna happen right and
And so yeah, and I do spy fancy with one. I mean like to me. I I'm a play
I'm a play classic as soon as it comes out man
I am like I'm gonna be ready that day and it's next next Thursday
So that's like five days from now or something like that. I'm gonna be there
I'm gonna be ready and I think it's gonna be really fun. I do. I think it'll be fun
I think that people will you know, hopefully at least people will enjoy it and we'll see kind of what happens, right?
Let me see. I guess they're probably just gonna show
They're probably gonna show it come out maybe in like 20 minutes or something like that. That's kind of what I'm assuming
I'm just not really sure. So, uh, yeah stream classic on Asmongold
It would be funny if I did that, but I wasn't planning on it
I'm sorry to say but you know, you never never say never well actually, okay, it's not gonna happen
Just fucking stop. All right. Yeah, let me let me just get that out of the way right now
And I don't even need to think about it or worry about it or anything
thing. No, we're not doing that shit. All right. So yeah, channel is that channel ever
coming back? I don't know. I mean, like right now, I, you know, I'm not planning on it,
but you know, who knows what's going to happen in the future. I mean, I don't like to make
plans or, you know, like a guarantee that I'm going to do anything specific, right?
The Iranians are fighting against their government again. Oh, good. Hopefully they
win this time, right? I mean, their government's awful. So I'll look at the
politics stuff in in just a bit right but um you know we'll look at all the
wow stuff this morning and go through all of it i'm excited man
and uh i never thought i'd never be as excited to play wow again well what are
people thinking about it right i mean like i don't even know uh let's see
can i pull this up i guess it's like is this the classic yes classical
subreddit uh let me just go ahead and just refresh this
and uh when i cross pass with a skyborne
It's a 30 year old meme.
It's actually a 30 year old meme, but it's still good, man.
Oh my god.
It's so bad.
I think the Sky Elves are weird too.
I do.
Like, I mean, the girl in the trailer, I thought looked fine, but the way the characters look,
you know what they kind of look like?
They looked like the Drac Fear human forms.
They did.
And like, I didn't really like that.
I mean, like, I don't want to have that.
I mean, the Sky Elves aren't naked enough.
Well, what does that mean?
He's going to kill them because he's racist?
Yeah, that's what he meant.
Actually, exactly what it means.
Yeah, just a matter of fact.
So yeah, and anyway, gay bear, in order
to chose the bear, I guess so.
And anyway, I think they're whatever.
They're basically blood elves.
Well, I mean, people, here's the thing, right?
Is that people are really, really passionate
about the game, right?
They're really passionate about the game.
They care a lot about the game.
They feel out of place, I'm not a fan.
Yeah, I mean, like that's really about it.
I think that it seems weird that you would add in Sky Elves
or Sky Born instead of just adding in High Born
and Ogres, right?
I think that's what everybody kind of wanted
out of Classic Plus.
So you ask yourself the question,
like whenever you're Blizzard,
why is it that you didn't do the thing
that, you know, seemingly, this is seemingly, right?
Everybody want it
Like why not just give people the thing that you know like if you had pulled people
Nobody would have picked like ah, yeah, we want these avatar characters, right?
Nothing screams classic like some weird blue elves. Let me see this. This is probably the reason lmao. Let me see it
What is this here?
It's really simple the marketing guys over at blizzard evaluated that having a box cost price for the game would be bad for business
since the real cash cow was the recurring sub,
but they needed a good way to put a price on the game
for easy profit that isn't too offensive.
Elves are extremely popular and by far the most played race,
but they felt it was wrong to pay wall an existing race.
So this was the outcome.
They could, dude, they could like, okay, so I get it.
And like, you're doing the best you can.
But like, here's what I think.
I don't even agree with this.
I mean, I partially agree with it.
But like, what I really think about it is that,
i think that actually they just like for some reason they don't want to do high
elves because if they made high elves and ogres
you had to like get a you know by a thirty-day sub or by a ninety-day sub or
something like that
they couldn't cash in on high elves they absolutely could they could say
they could literally add
this is what was there to do
they could literally add blood elves into the game
and not change anything and just renamed them to high elves
And people would be like, okay, like that would have been a better option than make the sky born. Okay. Like just gaslight the entire community and be like, no guys. No, these aren't like blood elves at all.
Even though it's like literally the exact same model, right? Just port it one for one. And that's it. It's Blizzard we're talking about. Yeah, I don't understand what they were thinking, man. I really don't.
weren't high elves almost wiped out after the third war so it wouldn't really make sense since the
majority filed KO anyway well yeah but like I don't think there's one of skyborne either right I mean
like you could just again in the same reasoning you could just say oh there's more high elves
than we thought well there's more skyborne than we thought because the previous number
that we considered was zero so this is the crazy thing is that whenever you work inside of a
fantasy universe you can just change the fantasy right it's like do you remember back in the day
you know like I'm trying to think like what else was it like oh well you can't destroy the old gods
because if you do it'll destroy Azeroth and then you destroy the old gods they're gone and it's
like oh wow well you know this thing is going to happen and then oh it didn't happen oh wow
J-Wars going to kill it didn't happen like it's just it it's make it up right it's a
fucking video game. So give Ogre Magi a walk. Yeah, dude. Like an Ogre, like the thing is here,
Warcraft, Ogre, Warlock. Like we had the vision, okay? We had the vision. He was, dude, can you
imagine if that was you? Could you imagine this guy in full tier two armor? Oh my god,
that would be amazing. Like think about this. Like, I mean, oh, that's Kil'Jaeden,
and that's not the same thing.
And so like we should have had these guys, right?
The aura, I know.
And so this is really what they should have gone with.
I don't know why they didn't go with it.
I think that actually I do know why they didn't go with this.
It's because they are too large
and because ogres are so large
they would probably have to remake
a lot of like assets in the game.
So they didn't wanna add ogres for that reason.
But I think that really just adding in high elves
and even making high elves have to choose.
and the first beginning of the quest line of the high elves could be that
you know you decide to ally with kaelthos
and then kaelthos is allied with illidan and lady vash
and so because of that you end up on the horde
or you could be a high elf and then like there could be like a like a first
the first like twenty levels or something like that
could be your class decision or your faction decision
that you make and there's a quest line for each one right
like that would be way cooler
so theoretically right isn't i'm saying
so i can imagine they added high elves instead of sky born
and that you were able to make a character in the high elves uh... area and it
was a factionless character
so you could make a you know uh... rogu may jr whatever right
and you know maybe not a warrior because elves can't be warriors are just
too weak but uh... besides illidan obviously but that's because he is
magic
but uh... yeah anyway we don't work race control by two people yeah i mean
that would be funny. You're thinking about this shit all night. I honestly, I had, I was having
discussions about this with like friends of mine about, you know, like, oh, this is what I think
they should have done. And, you know, I like this. This is so cool, dude. We should make a gill.
Well, I don't like the fact that they did this. Well, you know, over here, well, if you remember
the war and that one quest, well, yeah, we were talking about it a lot yesterday, right?
So this is what I think they should have done. They should have made high elves in neutral
race and they should have made the classic plus one of the new things that you now break
into an encampment of high elves and high elves were previously pretty much separated or they
wanted to remain neutral from you know the wars of the Eastern kingdoms and Kalimdor
of Azeroth and so now you know you can be a high elf and you can choose to take the quest
line of you know following Kaelthos and becoming a blood elf and then becoming part of the
the Horde, or you could maintain your, oh geez,
you could maintain your racial purity, right?
And not give in to the evil magic
and the power of the Sunwell.
And you could become an alliance player, right?
And so that's literally what it was.
That's what it was.
Listen, it's 30-year-old lore, it's 25-year-old lore.
Like, not everybody was like fucking,
oh my God, you can't say that.
Like, we weren't like that back then.
Like, it was just, that was the normal,
that was the normal way of doing it.
How would you monetize on locking that race?
I would say that you can't make the character unless you buy the pack, right?
And I think that that would be, again, it's kind of cringe to do that.
But I would prefer that over, for example, the blue elves, right?
Because it does seem like, I mean, if you look at Skyborne, right?
Let me just go back.
I'm going to just pull this up, right?
If you look at these characters, I don't really see these characters.
I mean, the character looks fine, like she looks totally fine, but, yeah, why has Skyborne
done a pure and retail wow?
Yeah, well, you know why?
Well, what do you mean?
Oh, this is the real reason, because they made it up, bro.
They made it up.
That's why.
They just invented this.
What are you talking about?
So I see this character, and this character looks way, way higher res and everything than
the rest of the stuff in the game.
So I think it's kind of odd to see that.
This is Mr. GM.
Looks like Shadowlands, Blue People.
Yeah, the Kyrians.
And let me go back.
I'll zoom in, right?
Like these characters look like they're from Dragonflight.
They do.
These look like the characters that they added.
You know, I don't know.
It just, it seems like odd.
Let's scram as much retail into this as possible.
Like I don't like the way the characters look.
It doesn't.
And I don't want to be like a complainer, Andy, right?
But I don't like this.
I don't.
I think it's cringe.
I wish that they would have just done the thing that everybody
hoped they would do for 20 years.
I wish they would have done the obvious thing instead
of the new thing that nobody asked for, right?
I mean, that's it.
So yeah, it's literally that's it's foydeslop.
Well, you could have given them foydeslop
without making them blue.
Like women don't want to be blue.
So yeah, do they have blue night elves and vanilla?
Hello?
Well, yeah, but they don't look like this.
And they're like, the night elves make sense
because they've been in the story
since the beginning of Warcraft 3.
The difference with this is that these characters haven't.
So it's never about like, you're
trying to make an argument because of like the absurdity.
This is like the old argument like, where is it?
Let me see. Can I pull this up?
No, I might not be able to. It's like something about like, you know, well
Oh, you'll believe in a bow-rog and a giant fucking seeing eye
But you won't think that it's cool that there's like a Subaru in Lord of the Rings
Like ultimately it's not about whether something is realistic in our frame of reference or even in the frame of reference in the game
It's about whether it makes sense in the lore, right?
So, that's really about what I'm talking about.
They could add ogres later on though.
I mean, they could, and I hope they do, and you know, maybe with all this feedback, they'll
listen to it and actually put them into the game.
But I guess we'll have to see.
And yeah, can you change their skin color, or are they just advertising as blue, the
only option?
I really don't know.
Let me look and see.
I'm sure somebody on the character creator probably tried it, right?
Sky born
Jesus, okay. Give me a second
Okay, uh sky born
Wow
Customization, okay, here we go. So let's see what the customization is. This is people talking about it being $30
I might watch this later on sky born. Okay, there we go. All right. Maybe this is gonna be a good option here
Let's take a look at it
Okay, yeah, I mean like that's pretty much that that's pretty much white skin, right?
I mean they're not white skin, but like like general like it's not blue, okay?
I tell you that, certainly not blue, and what about this?
Yeah, so you can make them white. You can see this very clearly, they can just be white elves,
And again, I think this this makes it even dumber to me because it's like, okay
Well, you already had this like you could have just done this anyway
So why did you invent new war whenever you could just you know capitalized on the existing war?
So what's the point of them then? I don't know and so anyway, they feel out of place. I'm not a fan
Yeah, I'm extremely positive. Well forever playing ever enough and it's raised and they dropped the ball in this part
Yeah, I think it's weird. Yeah, that's it a race no one asked for no faction identity and it's paywall
Yeah, I mean I can see why people are mad about this. I think this is like really really valid, right?
It's TBC health options with a bit more. Oh chance has bought of it. Okay. Yeah, there you go
So arguably to clearly show that this is a different universe. I mean that's I mean, but you can do that with high elves too, right?
I mean you clearly could especially whenever you can make a skyborne look like a high elf, right?
I mean, I don't know like there's not really high elves and fucking
In a and you know, oh, they want to differentiate themselves. You don't really make them look different ogres
Oh, wow. Well, we don't talk about that. So, yeah, I mean, that's what I think, okay?
And I'm not I don't want to go and be like, you know, super negative and like hate on it or anything
But yeah, the sky born. I think are ridiculous. I'm keeping my grandma locked in this stage until sky born has changed
To something that feels classic
Fucking base, bro. Like yeah, I that's you that's you're so right
You're so right for doing that like that's such that's such a good idea
Yeah, absolutely. Too many women at Blizzard.
I mean, how many of the women at Blizzard are blue, though, right?
No achievements in forever and forever.
I don't like, okay, so I'm going to give an opinion as somebody who used to be in the top 10 in the world for achievement points, okay?
I don't want achievements in Classic WoW.
Here's the reason why I don't want achievements in Classic WoW.
And they do have achievements in Classic WoW, or Forever WoW, but it's not in the same way.
There's a few like leveling challenges that you can do and I think those are like meta progression wide
But there are no like oh you have to defeat Baron Geddon and
Gar within 10 seconds of each other right like I'm just and I'm inventing an achievement right so I can mention like if
Molten core you had to fight both bosses at the same time
And then you had to kill them like that that would be you know theoretically something you could do so
Put it all of them. There's achievements and he saw them yesterday. Well, no, we're talking. That's that was the that's the meta progression
So here's the reason why achievements are bad. Achievements are bad, and they're not even bad, but they're different. They change the game.
Is that achievements provide an alternate and a secondary guiding force that causes people to make decisions.
You got an update on a deep dive panel? Well, let me see this.
Don't tell me it got delayed or something.
Due to technical difficulties feature only on the Blizzard Entertainment Stream at 10pm.
Okay, that's fine. Thank you. Thank you by the way. This is okay. I actually got super nervous for
a minute, but okay, that's fine. So AM no no this is literally like that's in like it's like now
right? Well it says 12 but it says 11. What does that mean? It means 25 minutes from now right?
because ten they're talking about california time aren't they
so because this this tracks your location so it gives you time based off of the
location
okay great so i thank you guys i just wasn't sure about that uh... are they
live yet yeah looks like they are live
okay well uh... great it looks like we're gonna we're gonna be watching this
and it says right here uh...
what does this say
there you go okay k-pop I don't know it's this plus it's just 25 minutes right so
it's very odd that they that's so weird that they did that well anyway our
legend stages live well they're having they're having tech difficulties and if
there's another place I need to look at then I'm gonna go do that but it seems
like I can just stick here and it should be okay so yeah that's it you
up early again I am let me actually I guess I can can go into the category
and everything for the game and all.
And so we can do that.
And Bro Click, the wrong link.
Well, it's Blizzard Entertainment, right?
Yeah, I feel like that's it.
Can you explain the legacy system?
Explain the legacy system.
Is this it?
I think it might be.
It's amazing.
Yeah, anyway, so the legacy system, I really can't.
I don't really understand it very well.
So, so no politics again today. Well, I'm going to look at it. So the BlizzCon stuff goes until like, I think 245 or something like that, because there's this panel and then there's a follow up panel where they talk a little bit more about I forgot what it was, but there's like, actually, I can just look at it right now.
We're crafting, no, not this, that's not what I care about, MDI.
Where the hell did I go? Warcraft, a world building in Warcraft, right?
So we're going to look at these two, and then we're going to, like after that, it's pretty much like that's pretty much all the BlizzCon stuff of like what's happening today.
Like apparently I'm sure that there's going to be, you know, found photographs and like this is like, you know, other like little minor things.
But the thing that I care about the most, right,
the go again future of hardcore,
I'm not really interested in that.
So, you know, to me, like my focus is gonna be on
just like wow forever, and that's what I wanna do.
So, you see Austin football tweet going viral.
Yeah, there's a lot of bunch of Indians at UT Austin.
I mean, that's like, I mean, my, I've already,
I've always given the same opinion about that, right?
Is like, I think that we should have some immigration,
but like just, you know,
I do think that like a country has an obligate,
I don't wanna get into that.
Like I'll talk about it later on.
Like, yeah, I see it.
I mean, I think that there's a middle of the road opinion
that I generally have.
I'm not like very extreme in one direction or another, right?
And so, yeah, we can get into that later on.
But isn't it kind of funny that didn't announce WAD Classic?
Well, I don't think anybody wanted that.
I feel like if Blizzard just said, okay,
so after Mr. Pandaria, Legion came out, right?
Yeah, I think that, yeah, that's how it happened.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, all right guys, so Legion Classic, who's excited?
And that's it.
And so, are you going to play WoW forever?
Yeah, of course.
Of course I am.
Do you think Skyborne or some kind of direct descendant of Highborne based on the cinematic
ending?
I don't know, maybe.
Like it's a good possibility they are.
I mean, I have no idea.
So we'll have to wait and see, but I just don't know yet.
So yeah, they implement the legendary system as it was in the end.
Yeah, so anyway, what I was going to say before is that, what even was I going
to say?
achievements. I never finished my thought on achievements. So achievements are not something I would want to see in Classic WoW
because achievements drive gameplay and I think that one of the best things about Classic WoW is the fact that
the gameplay for Classic WoW was completely determined by the individual player, right? The player
chose their own goals. It's not like Blizzard put like this, you know, list of tasks in front of you.
You decided what you wanted to do.
You decided where you want it to go and you basically decided your own destiny
I think that was a good thing and if a game doesn't have that and you don't have that ability to do it
I think it's going to be a mainstream stairs just started right now
I'm I keep trying to pick the right one. It's gonna be hard for me to do that
Let me refresh it and I'll see if I can pull it up here and there we go. Okay. This is the main stage
This is the mainstream. Okay guys. We're finally here
All right, sorry about that. Jesus Christ, that took forever. Okay, yeah, a little bit
of confusion there. Do you know if you buy the collector's edition, do we get access
to beta? Um, I don't know. Yeah, I have no idea about any of that. No, anything in
anniversary servers? Nothing at all. And anyway, so you do? Okay. Yeah, I literally didn't
even look at it. I was gonna buy them yesterday. I'm actually, are they sold
out yet if they're not sold out yet I feel like that's kind of surprising I
expected that they would have been sold out but like before I even into my
stream yes no I think they are sold out they are yeah I'm not surprised and it's
pre-order okay well I'll have to file have to call in a favor from somebody
you're buying secondhand right I'm not too worried about it and shipping
costs are ridiculous. I mean, again, if you're in Europe, you know, that's just, you know,
it's expensive to move something across an ocean, right? I mean, I don't know what to
say.
So, yeah. Anyway, they email you a code for Warcraft 3 in the beta chat. I think they
probably do. But or they might actually, I don't think they do actually, because you're
going to be buying it on your Battle.net account. So it should just register on the
app that you bought the token, and then it should enable you to play it, right?
I would assume that.
I mean, I'm not sure.
But I feel like that's generally how these things work.
So 250 euro to be shipped, that's crazy.
It's a lot of money, man.
It is.
You know, like shipping's expensive.
You know, oil's expensive right now.
You know, there's a lot of international turmoil.
So it makes sense that, you know, that's going to be expensive.
But it could also just be blizzard with bad logistics.
I mean, who knows?
So people, if they made drain oil or plus, just remake problematic mechanics.
I talked about that a lot yesterday.
I did I agree with you on that so um yeah so right now in the description they'll send
the email code with the question edition yeah okay well then there you go you can just check
that out and warehouse is in Spain there's no reason for it to be so expensive oh okay
well then that is stupid I mean I don't know maybe they I don't know I'm just inventing
things who cares so achievements drive gameplay so whenever you have an achievement put
into a game, now the player is playing to get that achievement. They're playing in order
to achieve some sort of goal that Blizzard created for them rather than the player creating
their own journey, which is what I think classic is made to be, right? So generally,
I think that, you know, adding in achievements, adding in a mount collection and, you know,
mount collecting and pet collecting, I think that it's okay to have a handful of mounts
like, you know, the mounts from CG, and I'm sure they'll add some new ones in the game.
But overall, I think that the real experience should be about the player deciding what they
want to do with themselves.
That's really it.
Maybe they'll add more graphics updates later on down the road for a while forever.
I think that what they're probably going to do is they're probably going to play
it by ear.
That's probably what's going to happen.
Because I talked about this yesterday, like the reason why we had so many weeks
for WoW forever is because they they brought in so many streamers to ask them for like advice and like
information and like insight on this so it does seem like Blizzard does really kind of want to get
this right which it makes sense right I mean this is like their main game like I feel like BlizzCon
existed because of World of Warcraft like if there was no World of Warcraft I don't think there'd
be a BlizzCon just like straight up because everybody went there like I went there to
meet people from my WoW guild and I'm sure that like people met on Overwatch later on and
and so it's not like that's the only thing ever.
But I would say like 90% of it always felt like
it was wow fans and wow players,
at least back in the day it was.
So, you believe about 35 plus year old men
are losing their shit over Skybor not being high elves,
even though they were introduced as exiled high elves?
Yeah, I can believe that
because this is those 35 year old men
were once 16 year old boys
and this game meant everything in the world to them.
It was their life, it was their passion,
it was their joy. And now 20 years later, there is one shot to relive that past in the most authentic way possible. And they want to make sure that it happens in the best possible way. So no, I don't want to hear about how they're losers, okay, they're passionate and they care. So again, and I'm sure some of the comments and stuff that
they say is it's it's stupid right but like at the end of the day I mean if
you've played the game for 15 years 20 years I think you have the right to be
a little stupid so that's it do you think that one flying in well forever
uh no they literally said that we're not going to like that's that's not
even gonna happen like they they literally address that directly and they
said, we're not going to do this.
It's grounded, literally.
I was wondering what would be the distinction you personally
hold for adding things, content to while forever that's
antithetical to while classic, the things that you would
consider positive additions?
I mean, I don't I don't really have like a framework, right?
I mean, I mean, I do, but it's like, honestly, I can't
give you like it it's so there are so many vectors and angles for it that it's like impossible to like
draw out this is what it is this is the thing that they're not supposed to have no rated pvp
i don't think they should have rated pvp because i think the moment that you add rated pvp
that's the moment that all pvp is secondary to that type of pvp so
Rated battlegrounds world PvP
You know like doing
Everything like that like all that then becomes secondary to so I don't want rated PvP
I think if you want rated PvP
Set up a tournament and figure it out yourself
Because like we did the Makara tournament remember that like we did this like how many fucking years ago
This is like maybe three or four years ago or something, right? Let me pull this up
Um, uh, Asmongold, Mok'ra...
Uh, yeah, I mean, this is, oh my...
Four million views?
Dude, this is Ziko killing that idiot Paladin.
That idiot- dude, it got four million views?!
Oh my god!
What the fuck?
It was by the way, this was such a good fucking video this was so funny
I didn't even know it was that popular. Oh my god
Like yeah, I had no idea
Ziko has always been a legend and basically the the the long story short is that Ziko wanted to duel this guy in hardcore
but this guy tried to kill him and he got every buff in the world and he was higher level and he had every
advantage and he should have been able to kill Ziko and Ziko beat his ass because he had planned it out and he was
going to use a special item that this guy didn't even know existed and he actually killed him.
And then no, no, he didn't kill him. He gave him a debuff for being a deserter from a duel for like,
oh, that's right. You know, he sheaped him outside of the duel range of the, oh my god. Now I'm remembering.
Okay, I could talk about that later on but just real quick
This was an event that we did like two years ago. It was a 100,000 dollar Makura tournament put on by
You know mainly tips out right but also like other people that were involved in OTK at the time and it was two years ago
This had this is a six-hour VOD that has 1.5 million views 1.4 million views
So that's fucking crazy, right? That's insane. So anyway people absolutely love this
They had so much fun and three minutes left wait three minutes left wait. What the hell no oops
Yeah, you got got too excited, huh?
See get on his strap for shadow resistance. Well, that was yeah, that was during the duel right
But during the dueling tournament. This was this was he didn't even go that deep on it, right?
Three years ago already dude. I feel like this was like last year
Is it that insane
Yeah, I feel like that was last year
Sorry for going to the app, but someone just sent me this time locking BlizzCon. I thought it was pretty cool
Let me see it. I'll pull it up and look at it. I haven't seen this at all. It's the first time looking at it
Let me see here. I'll just go ahead and I can just get off this page for now
Log in and time walk. Oh, let me just go ahead and see what happens if I click this. I
Don't have my I don't have my thing in here
Sorry, I don't I don't I'm not logged in
So I can't do it right now and this is I tested it. It shows your stats. Okay, I'll have to it shows the lifetime playtime
Okay, I will
The lifetime played on all accounts
Man I
Will have to I'll have to do that. I will do it. Yeah, I just have to get the I have to get like that
The you know password and everything for it and everything like that. So yeah 4,000 450,000 hours
I didn't even though they were tracking it man like so I'm not sure we were playing with come launch
Well, the a couple of people reached out and I'll be playing with whoever wants to play
That's really about it. I mean like my plan is that I'm going to
My plan is to be a plague of locusts that overwhelm the popular streamer server
and for my viewers to become the like basically
like the
Like this. Oh, I was looking at something yesterday. It was like the caste system in India
We are the untouchables
We are the we are the bottom of the caste. We are the roaches
We are the that we are Xerxes army. We are the shock troopers, you know, we're not the 300
That's it road trip. Yeah, the road charming and our goal is to simply be the best guild with pure
Numbers not skill not planning not organization, but just pure raw
numbers and that's it
The under desirable. Yes, exactly
So I was dreaming early because Blizzard is doing a new event for classic Wow, and I want to be there to watch it
We're the yeah the horde yeah, we're the the alliance horde exactly and go into raids
Yeah, so that's really the plan
Do you think you'll come back when they release content updates?
I come back to a lot of games when they release content content updates
I mean, I don't come back to every game, but I do that a lot
Gonna make my cargo on dead paladin. I talked to him a little bit and he's very excited for the stuff
I don't know whether he's gonna do forever with us or not. I have no idea. I hope he does I do but
But you know, Paladini messaged me too and he was like, I'll do Olympus, but I don't want to have to lead it.
Again, I'm like, okay, all right, well we've got to figure out somebody else to lead it.
So we'll do all the, oh, excuse me, Far-Ever was an MMO and so I just got him confused.
You mean forever, forever.
So the undead army?
Yeah, we don't solve problems, we throw bodies.
Yes, we are the undead army, exactly.
And all we do, like if we have a guild meeting,
like the goal, I can't say the goal is to server crash
because then they're gonna get mad at me,
but the goal is for it to lag out Stormwind, okay?
Like we get everybody together and like,
yeah, we wanna have that happen.
What do you like, Alliance?
Because, well, so this is the thing
I was talking to Asfand about this
and he was complaining about like,
I don't know if he said this on the stream.
So he was complaining about the merch, right?
And he was saying like, oh well, you know, they didn't give us enough shirts.
And he's like, come on guys, it's BlizzCon.
Why did we only get like 10 to exhale shirts?
It's BlizzCon. Come on.
What is this? Like something like that.
Yeah, anyway, so I mean, I think that I remember the meme of all of the
horde shirts that were extra extra large being sold out and all the alliance
shirts that were extra extra large not being sold out
and that just proves again the orcs are
uh... you know the taliban they are icis
they are g insurgency
uh... they are the uh... you know terrorists right
uh... that they're not supposed to be here they're an invading force
they came in here from the dark portal they shouldn't even be in a
Azeroth should deport them back to Draenor and so uh, no, we're not gonna play as the fucking horde
We're playing as the Alliance
Who's Israel? I really have no
There's an answer you know you know what that answer is
Okay, like you know you know the answer that question
Anyway, yeah, who's the terrorist?
I mean, again, I feel like it's got to be the horde, man. That's it
The ions has female gnomes explain that I mean again. They're just they're stupid and annoying, right?
I mean, that's about it. I mean, there's female gnomes in real life, too
Don't say it a four week down. Yeah, we're gonna have to go to kick and stream only on kick or something
Which might happen. I don't know I
I'm opening up the possibility like to me. I like streaming on Twitch, but I I don't know
I mean like, you know, I get that I've gotten like two two week bands or like week bands recently like it's been kind of bad
So it makes me nervous, but you know, we'll see what happens. I'm not too worried about it
My main focus about going live is about recording YouTube content
That's why I do it and I wake up early and everything so, you know, we can get it out as early as possible
but I you know it obviously I like being on Twitch, but who knows, you know
sometimes all good things come to an end and
Speaking of terrorism bombing of there more. No Garrosh was correct in bombing there more
Theramore was a military base where civilians were stationed on it and whenever Garrosh killed
all the civilians in Theramore they knew what the risks were by living that close in proximity to
I mean like Theramore is very very close. It's extremely close to Durotar and Durotar is
where Orgrimmar is. That's like their capital city. So Garrosh I mean really this is like the
Monro doctrine, right? And it's like, you have to keep your hemisphere free of influences from
outside forces. So whenever Garrosh bombed Theramore, this was a defensive action from alliance
encroachment on his territory. He was completely right in bombing Theramore. Killed everybody.
That's what happens. That's the way it is.
Swedish election today? Yeah, I heard a little bit about that. And I wish Garrosh won and
remained War Chief until this day. I completely agree with you. And Theramore was there before
the orcs. Theramore was there before the orcs. It's not, yeah, Theramore was there,
but let's not pretend like they weren't building up a stronger and more substantial
military presence leading up to the events of the bombing of Theramore. Like, Garrosh
Bomb Theramore. Yeah, Theramore had already been there. They already co-existed a lot.
But do you remember the remake of Theramore? How many extra tanks did they add? Holy shit!
Yeah, I mean this is it.
You think Putin's the same as Garrosh? Don't ban me? No, it's totally different.
And do you remember WoW's Dark at Secret story? I do. It was really funny.
Imagine Arthas and Garrosh were the faces of WoW right now.
Arthas and Gar- Arthas was the leader of the Alliance and Garrosh was the leader of the Horde.
Dude. I'd probably still be playing the game. I would be bro like yeah I'd be oh my god. That
would be the go like that'd be fucking nuts right? And did you like the Warcraft movie?
I mean like I just I thought it was a Hollywood movie like a lot of the so this is a problem
with like Hollywood fantasy is that Hollywood fantasy has just become slop like every movie
is the same every narrative is similar like whether it's like the new willow show whether
it's like you know rings of power whether it's the Witcher all of them have like this
sloppiness to them that just makes them really not that appealing to me I mean I don't really
uh... wheel of time that's another one yeah
like and so
these fantasy stories lost their identity
and i think it's it's probably a combination of
you know them trying to add in modern you know like sensitivities to you know
fantasy stories and also just the writers in the show runners being too
immature
to you know adapt the source material in a way that's authentic right
i think that's mainly what's happened
is that you have this person that like they're spending millions of dollars
just be able to use their material and like some fucking random showrunner
thinks that like, oh, I can do it better. Right.
And it's like every once in a while they do it better. Right.
But usually they don't.
So I was so excited for Wheel of Time with a let down. Yeah.
I remember that show or that there was a book series was really,
really popular. And then, you know, it just didn't really,
that the show was not really that good. They ruined Wheel of Time.
Was really about that. Yeah. Check out the latest update on Reckless Ben.
We're gonna look at it tomorrow today. We're gonna look at it later on today. We've got it like obviously I'm starting super early today I
Like I think I have like this is gonna sound stupid
But I have like an ulcer in my mouth
And so it was like kind of annoying for me to move my mouth around but as I'm talking more it actually doesn't bother me at all
So I'm not gonna worry about it. I feel totally fine. So what the fuck a lot. Yeah. Yeah, so no I'm fine
It's okay. I
mean things like that happen and
And, you know, again, I actually think talking like this all the time helps.
And so, a canker sword?
Yeah, maybe, I don't know.
But either way, I can't even feel it anymore.
So hopefully, let's not talk about it and jinx it though.
So did you burn yourself?
No, I think it's just like, you know, occasionally you just have something like that happen,
right?
I mean, the human body isn't perfect.
And you just have, you know, like, you know, you have things like that happen.
Mouth infections can easily instigill you.
They can.
They can.
It's true.
your bloodstream or there's a couple of other things that they can have happened.
But this is something different.
And talking about Ben is it's time sensitive.
It's time sensitive.
His store grand opening was yesterday.
Yeah.
We're going to watch it today.
That's my point.
Right?
We're going to watch it today.
We're going to look at it later on.
The Armour Take was dumb.
They were arming against invasion.
They were arming against invasion.
So here's the problem with what your mindset is.
Is that you're thinking about it from the perspective of the Alliance.
You need to think about it from the objective perspective.
You need to think about it from Garrosh's perspective.
Why would Garrosh not drop a nuke on a fucking place that was arming?
Like these are literally your enemies.
They want to kill you.
And they're bringing up more tanks and they're over there?
Like yeah, nuke them.
Like duh, obviously nuke them.
Like what are you talking about?
Immediately you do that.
Yeah, to your mind.
To make speed? Yeah, yeah, let's do it. Let's go ahead and play back speed
Because sometimes this is what happens, right? All righty guys, you ready?
Law politics through IRL. Yeah, I can say that stuff about there anymore. I can't say that stuff about
Ukraine or Russia
Should Arthur, MacArthur of Nuke China back whenever they have nukes?
Again, we're not going to talk about real life.
We're not going to talk about real life. It's a lot easier.
I can tell you this, okay?
My favorite character in World of Warcraft, by far, is Garrosh.
My second favorite character is Arthas.
I think he was right to kill every single person in Scraflum.
I think it was the morally correct decision.
Okay.
He's neither of them are villains. They're heroes. They're patriots. All right, deep
Die!
For this guy.
Always from yesterday.
Hello Blizzcon!
Hi!
How's everybody doing? Good weekend so far?
Zuckerberg? You think this guy looks like Mark Zuckerberg?
What are you fucking retarded?
production director of the WoW Classic and WoW Forever team. Welcome to the WoW Forever deep dive panel.
Hi.
I would just like to call out, this is our first of four WoW Forever panels today.
If you're looking to hear more about WoW Forever lore, things like our Skyborn elves and how they
fit into classic vanilla lore, I urge you to make it to the deep dive panel on this very stage
this afternoon. Yeah, we'll see about that. We've had the chance to very lightly
that's after this to just some of Wow forever. It's new zones, dungeons, a couple
systems and the pillars by which we are building this game. All right. And for
those of you here at list on, I hope you've had the chance to try the demo
on the show floor and experience the start of the leveling journey of the
games new race the Skyworn. Or taken on a new classic Wild Dungeons, the drowned city
with a few friends. And that's a fine introduction to Wild Forever. But if you are here at this
particular panel, or watching from home, we know that you don't just want the highlights,
want to go deep into more of the additions, changes, and updates, and perhaps the philosophical
reasons why of WoW Forever's massive scope.
Yep.
Today, we'll take a look at new features, things like our new camping system, additions
to trade skills, our big improvements to how our realm infrastructure will work.
Oh, I want to hear that.
As well as combat, items, classes, talents, and more.
and they're actually talking about everything i want them to
now
to get us started
who please help me welcome to the stage who is it someone who needs very little
introduction to this
well now who is it
who is a senior designer and narrative point of while forever josh greenfield
or as you know him
aggrin
the man himself.
There he is.
There he is.
I like this guy.
Yep.
Hello, BlizzCon.
Did you guys have a great day one?
Hell yeah, I know I did.
Alright, I don't know about you guys,
But I'm super excited to get to talk to you about some of the fine details
So let's jump right into it
Picture this your adventuring in the wilderness and put into another player in your on your faction
Beg them for this is an encounter. You should be happy to have
Sure, sometimes that other player may beat you to an herb note or a mining note or maybe attack the same mob
you're about to attack, but a core foundation of WoW Forever is serendipitous interactions.
Serendipitous interactions are the foundations of making friends in online games.
So how do we make meeting strangers serendipitous?
In WoW Forever, we've reimagined the simple cooking fire to support these types of interactions.
Your cooking fire has now become the basic campfire. Placing a campfire creates a camp site.
That allows you and other players to rest and gain benefits such as benders, repairs,
trade skill workspaces, and most importantly buffs that last one hour.
They sold this in turn a while, right?
To just slow down a bit and just take it easy.
So in order to gain your buffs, you'll need to slash sit by the campfire for a few moments
until you're ready for adventure.
A basic campfire allows up to three special crafted objects to be placed at the camp by players.
Each player can place one object, and each trade skill has different objects they can place for a unique buff or utility learned at different skill levels.
Oh, shit.
For example, these are like world buffs for level 10s.
A sharpening wheel that increases strength, tailors can place a faction banner that increases
spirit and herbalists can place an incense candle that increases intellect.
You can get an argument over this.
All of these are variants of and exclusive with buffs provided normally by classes
such as a paladin's blessing of might or a mage's arcane intellect.
The first objects are learned at only 20 skill points.
More advanced objects can be learned via blueprint recipes you'll need to find in your
adventure.
They should make them really easy to map.
All of these objects add more depth and purpose to trade skills in WoW Forever.
That way people want to use them.
Overall, we've been having a ton of fun with camping as we've been testing it internally
and we can't wait to arrive in Elwin Forest or Durotar and see people sitting
around the fire 30 combat.
Your strength is an area that has been given a massive amount of life in the wild forever
Even outside of what I just described with the camping additions, there are over 600 new
New recipes from all professions and level ranges in a while forever.
In addition, many existing recipes have been overhauled in some way.
Even at low levels, you will feel the impact of your profession choice in a meaningful way.
Officers call girls to continue to level your professions as you go.
has a complement to camping, cooking and food have also received a substantial overhaul.
Almost all crafted food will give some form of a stat boost as well as a small XP box.
This means you'll always want to go into battle well prepared and well fed.
Philosophically we want trade skills to become an important part of your progression in
and wow for us.
And we are planning to continually add new recipes, materials, and crafted items as the
game continues to evolve.
So next, let's talk about transmogrification.
Not controversial at all.
Trans fog is an important tool for those who want to show off their accomplishments or
express their character in a particular way.
However, we recognize that this system is not for everyone.
Many players appreciate seeing their gear progression and others reflected in how they
actually appear, so we've done a lot of work to allow you to engage with the system as
little or as much as you'd like.
Thus, we're allowing you to choose to opt out of the system in a few different ways.
The first is simply speaking to an NPC and disabling transmog.
Good. Is it enough?
Turn it off.
Additionally, when you log into the game for the first time,
you'll be met with a mode selector.
And that has a preset of a handful of settings,
any of which you can reconfigure later.
But if you select the classic mode,
the visibility of other player's transmog
will be disabled as soon as you enter the game.
The goal here is to allow you to play the game as if
transmog does not exist at all.
and you should be able to do just that.
Yeah.
Okay.
So while giving you the ability to opt out of the system is a good first step, we do recognize
that the collection aspect of Transbond has an impact on the behavior of players as well.
It does, yeah.
Right?
So one thing we ask ourselves when designing this system is, what happens if I go to
the Strafholm and the Mask of the Unforgiven drops. It's a sweet-looking leather helmet,
looks like a bandit mask. Anybody would be stoked to have it in their trans-mog collection,
right? Do I have to worry about someone who doesn't have an upgrade, but just wants it
for the mug to roll against me? The short answer is no. Any bind-on pick-up, uncommon
or rare deer that drops in dungeons will grant its appearance to all eligible looters
when it's loaded.
That's smart.
That's smart. Yeah, there you go.
Yeah.
There you go.
So this means that that road
who just wants the upgrade should never be worried
that that warrior is just going to roll for the mock.
So there's no need to roll against anybody.
Everybody just gets it. Everybody walks away happy.
Great.
For epic drops and raids, we do expect
that groups to have an organized loot system.
That's been the case in WoW for years.
Yeah.
So the appearance for Epic items will
be granted to the person who looted and binds the item only
to preserve the uniqueness and prestige of Epic appearances.
OK.
Awesome.
OK.
So for those who do want to fully engage with this,
let's see what happens.
The basic functionality should look pretty familiar.
All right.
if you've played while midnight
uh... with a few slightly more classic yeah i think it's a pretty interesting
compromise firstly you may only transmog your gear to an item of the same type
so okay plate-to-plate or cloth to cloth yeah if you're a healer paladin and
you're wearing like the robes of the exalted
of jimmy another transmodel off-chess to transmog over that yeah however i
don't know if you're in this
we're adding the ability to select different armor appearance types
per slot, so you can customize a single saved outfit to have both, say, a pair of leather
and nail gloves in that outfit. In case you get an upgrade out in the field, that doesn't
match what you're currently wearing. Okay. You will not be able to transmog high-level
items as a low-level player either. We want your silhouette to be relative to your
level. That's actually really good. I'm glad about that. Once you hit natural
level restrictions are removed and any item in your collection that is valid to be used
on your equipped items will be transmogged.
The primary exception of this rule is the case of items like PvP gear that require certain
conditions to be met, such as rank.
So you will need to have the rank required to transmog that item on your equipped items.
If you have the system itself disabled, you'll still be able to configure and display your
own Transmog just in case you want to do something like enable or disable your Helm slot or your
Cloak.
And additionally, if you have the system disabled, Helm and Cloak visibility of other players
is not affected.
This preserves the original wow functionality of being able to hide your Helm and Cloak
for yourself and others regardless of if either party is opted out of the system or not.
Yeah, that's always been the way the game is.
While we love Transmog, it was important to make sure to be respectful to those who do not enjoy it.
Wow.
And make its inclusion have as minimal impact as possible on the way they play and see the game.
I'm actually really surprised they're not doing this in a dumb way.
There is actually a lot more to Transmog, and this was just part of an overview of the system.
We'll be talking about this more in the coming days and weeks, and blog posts, and the other game games.
Yeah, it's really surprising.
leading up to our launch.
And so with that, I am going to hand it over to Ana Rizendes
to talk about some of our server infrastructure
and how you'll be playing with your friends in the future.
OK, I want to know about this.
Yeah.
Like, there's like so many levels of this
and all that makes sense.
Yeah, I feel like that's good.
That's a big one?
Yeah.
Hi, everyone.
I'm so honored to be here with you.
I cannot even describe the feeling
this is a dream for me come true.
OK, let's start with it.
I am Anna Rosendes, lead software engineer
for the WA for our team.
And I'm here to talk to you about the new legacy system
and some server updates.
So let's start with the legacy system.
When Hacker came out, we loved the fact
that there were so many people constantly leveling.
Going through the journey over and over again, the tick got inspired by how lively the world felt.
I wanted to find new ways to reward you for going again in the journey,
maybe without the facing the consequences of the daily, like so deadly of it.
So the legacy system was created as a way to make leveling arts more exciting,
to emphasize the journey over the destination.
But it says dungeons and raids though.
You get to have new challenges you can complete to earn points for all of your characters.
Which character can use these points to unlock new rewards in different and exciting ways,
making each of your characters' journeys more unique?
So let's first talk about the legacy points.
You can earn points by completing legacy challenges across several categories
that you can see on the screen back here.
So let's look at a couple of examples. For example, leveling a specific class. You have different milestones from level 25, 45, and 60.
Another example is a particular skill set like artisan engineering. So the goal of the earning these points isn't to force you to do something out of the ordinary.
Do you know like killing an enemy player while singing Happy Birthday or something like that?
Yeah, that was super. The idea is that the system complements your existing journey and rewards the way that you already enjoy playing the game. Well, maybe adding new challenges along the way. Okay, but what do I do with these points? Okay, let me introduce you to the legacy trees.
trees. Starring trees are three, professions, adventures and resourcefulness. As you earn
points, you'll be able to share your journey through these trees and choose the path that
best fits your play style. Let's look at an example of each of the different trees so
you can get some idea. So in the adventure tree, as you can see, we have well rested.
Increases how quickly you can bring raised that experience and increases the cap of the
rested experience bar.
This doesn't give you a combat advantage though, right?
An example in the professions tree, you can see the bountiful harvest that increases how
many scarce materials you get from mining, herbing or skinning.
Once an adventure.
Depending on the path you take, you can unlock some pretty exciting perks.
as this perk. In the resource industry, you can find reagents soon like seals or caves.
But your class ability is no longer required reagents to make both
in easier. But stay with me. Some of the more powerful perks like these ones
are very deep in the trees, so you're gonna have to make some very tough choices.
What makes this system truly unique is that the points you earn are shared
across all of your arcs. Each character you have will be able to spend the same number
of points in their own trees. Whether if you want to create lots of arcs to earn as many
points as possible or you really want to have dive and maximize that particular character
that you love, the choice is yours. So at lunch, the number of points are going to
be capped so you're only gonna have 16 points to spend on your legacy trees. We
didn't want people to feel pressure to have to do absolutely all of the
challenges or for new players to feel like they have a very long way to catch
up. That said the number of points is capped but to begin with you can earn up
to 65 points, even beyond that limit, but what do you do with those 65 points?
If I had the falls on one side or another, I don't think I'd like this.
There's introducing now the Legacy Reward Track, where here, after you continue to create
and get all of these challenges, you will be able to get some rewards, like this one,
this very cute little bear.
I'll talk about it later.
I really want to get it.
It's just a bear.
These rewards are intended to be cosmetic or prestige-based.
I should not provide a competitive gameplay advantage at all.
I do want to add another note about mounts.
In Burning Crusade, the upfront cost of getting your mount
shifted to the trainer cost.
Yeah, it should be a trainer cost.
And it won't forever.
We are also making this change.
Good, because that was better.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was an improvement.
Yeah.
So, in the future, we're going to continue to add new challenges and new perks you can
spend your points on, and you can imagine seeing these like maybe new perks in the existing
trees or maybe completely new trees in the future.
So we can wait for you to get your hands on this system and discover all of the different
ways to play with it.
I know I already have some idea of cooking and I will definitely have an army of
us to help me shape my journey.
Yeah, I feel like having to do that like I don't.
Moving up to the next topic, something I'm really, really excited about as an
engineer especially, server infrastructure.
So I want to start with the story, yes, let's go.
You know, you know, just fashion it.
I want to start with to share the first time that I play in World of Warcraft.
I was really excited to start playing.
I got this battle chest.
I don't know if anyone also got that battle chest, but I was so excited.
I come in.
Yeah.
Nope.
I started on the original box after a mountain of cities and just like waiting
for all of the updates to finish.
I was finally in and ready to play.
And the first thing I saw login in was this.
servers full yeah realm what realm I spend a good amount of time trying to
decide which realm to pick servers are done I don't like servers then I was
like what's our class who's dollar and I know better now my friend and I picked
for all because we thought for always cool I knew I wanted to play with my
friends and meeting from Mexico in our our options down pretty quickly to
to Dracarys and Ragnaros.
So I called my friends and asked them, okay, where are we going?
And we decided to put characters in Dracarys.
I do want to do a quick shout out to all of my original Dracarys players.
Oh, she played on the crowd?
Okay, good.
I hear you!
Yes!
Dude.
Yeah.
Okay, alright.
She wasn't from Ragnaros.
I jumped into the game.
I probably spent, like, 30 minutes perfecting Dracarys.
Satti from Ragnaros?
Who the fuck is that?
the fuck is that and it took me less than five minutes to die but you know
what there's a story for a different one later though I was stuck into another
group of friends IRL and I told them hey I started playing wow let's play
together and they told me they played in Ragnaros so that was it I created an
alt in there but it was not the same so as we approached the development of
Wow forever. We didn't just look at our own experiences. I don't like service experiences of countless other players like you
One of the trends we noticed in classic was that players naturally gravitated towards the same roms. Yeah
Yeah, this massive realms and
Potentially long queues wait they're gonna do it get it in big realms. You always have people to group up with I think they're gonna do it economy
someone that has the recipe for that item you really want at any time of the day.
The challenge is that back in 2004, the game simply couldn't handle
enormous numbers of players all looking into the same realm at the same time.
Since then, thanks to the incredible work of our engineering teams, we made huge
improvements to the technology and today we can support far more players on
in a single realm than ever before.
No fucking way.
With that in mind, and living in a world that is more connected than ever, we decided to
invest even further into helping players connect and play with each other.
So in a while forever, you won't select our realm anymore, because we're going realm-less.
Holy shit!
Fuck yes!
Oh my god!
This is like the best announcement.
Yeah, technology!
Holy fucking shit!
Good job!
So...
Wow!
Okay, okay, let's not get too crazy.
What about PBE and PvP realms?
We're not putting everyone in one giant realm.
The start of choosing a realm is just from one of the following rule sets.
You know, it's very similar to the current classic.
Holy shit!
You might want to choose normal or PBE is referred to in classic,
call it like that. In here, you can focus on exploration and only fight others when you
choose to. So, let's do a live survey. Any takers for normal? Yeah? Let's go. Let's go.
Let's do it. If you're the kind of player who wants every trip into contested territory
to come with a little bit of danger and a lot of excitement, then player versus player
or PVPs for you.
Yeah, I don't even care.
We got any PVPers?
Go!
Yeah, I literally don't give a shit.
Wherever everybody else plays, I'll play the game.
We want to dive into the fantasy of the game, and look for other like-minded players,
in which case, role-playing might be for you.
Oh.
And you are the enjoyers in the crowd.
I was actually going to play on a role-play server in this show.
And finally, once hardcore is available post-launch, if you're looking for the ultimate challenge,
where every decision matters and that has real consequences, hardcore is your choice.
So let me hear it.
Who's excited for hardcore?
You're so brave to go into hardcore.
Absolutely not.
So, once you made your selection, there's one more thing I want to make sure you understand.
It's on a 13-4 year.
If a forever makes it easier than ever to play with your friends, there's still some restrictions.
Think about each rule set like a mega-roll.
Uh-huh.
Here's how it works.
Factions are still separate.
That makes sense.
If you're core, my personal favorite.
Yeah, for the core.
Yeah, this makes way, way more sense, too.
You won't be able to do it with the Alliance players.
Alliance too, I can't scare of the Alliance.
Yeah, alright, yeah, true.
So you can only be able to pop the dungeons and raids with the people of your same ruleset.
And if you choose hardcore, you will be completely in close ecosystem.
However, if your character dies, you'll be able to transfer to another game rule set.
And now, for the first time, you'll be able to transfer to PvP.
Yeah.
I don't like that. I don't think you should be able to.
Okay.
I don't.
Moving on.
I don't.
Collections and the system I just talked about, Legacy System, are still account-wide and will be across rulesets, except hardcore.
The things that you earn in hardcore will be available in the other game rule sets.
but not the other way around.
That's fine.
Yes.
That's fine.
Legacy collection point.
OK, I see.
I also want to add another note.
As part of the server updates, your characters
will not have two names.
So you can think about it like maybe a first name
and a last name in the US.
We'll refer it to.
And now that names are going to be unique for region,
we wanted you to be able to create original names like
Anna forever.
Gay retard.
So, now you have the choice of getting to that one.
Can I do that one?
That's what I want to be.
Going back to my personal story, I have very fond memories of my time on Dracarri.
Those are some original screenshots, by the way, of like back to last time.
Sorry, Jeffery.
And we recognize that there are certain benefits and experiences that come from being part of our realm.
Well, forever is a reflection of seven years of learning for our WoW team.
As I mentioned before, play is gravitate towards bigger realms.
At the same time, they really care about community and sense of belonging.
So we ask ourselves, why not both?
And the result is something we're incredibly excited about.
We have updated the infrastructure to give you the benefits of large realms with the goal
of capturing the essence of the realm.
There's like a layer of signature on each character.
When you notice this is when you're out in the world leveling, questing, or exploring,
you may cross paths with the same players again and again.
Maybe you help each other complete a quest, race for the same mining node, or simply
Web at each other as you pass by, maybe throw a ball off or something like that.
And the next day, you might see the same player again and recognize their name.
This time, strangers become familiar faces and familiar faces become part of your community.
Or this is big good.
Think about it like one had to grow up for an elite.
As you're coordinating with your guild, we want you to encounter your
the guildmates out in the world, even before you have grouped up.
So one crucial thing for me was joining a server that spoke Spanish like I do,
and for what, forever, you will get that choice for your language preference too.
And you will encounter other players who share that same preference.
Is there a preference for swords?
I also want to address faction balance.
It is very important for a few people.
What is the Xbox 360?
place to shoot for a core and alliance faction balance just as we introduced for season of
discovery. So with all these changes we don't want you to have to make the shows between
potentially longer queues at launch or what would not be your forever role. So our goal
is to give you the best of both worlds. What is it? The benefits of a large room,
what we're serving the sense of community. That would be the best of both worlds.
for new communities to be born and also for you to bring your own so why is a woman in charge of this
and apparently because she's doing it right to talk about the core of the game combat items classes
and talents i'll have things over the the 21 year veteran of world of warcraft christ yeah thank you
Real talk. I mean, dude, realm-less, realm-less classic plus is fucking insane.
Like, I'm shocked that they're doing this.
I'm actually shocked. I'm so happy.
Oh, it's been two years since we stopped work on Season of Discovery.
What have the class and item designers been up to since then?
We're gonna move quickly. I'm gonna talk about our combat philosophy
exciting changes to rivalization
new racial abilities and finally
Even here for my paladin a
Deep dive look at all of our class and talent changes for the Paladin class to illustrate all of our class design
Like I don't want to hear this first
Nobody let's talk about no one cares in World of Warcraft forever. No one nobody cares
bro loves the feel and pacing of combat in World of Warcraft classic yeah I do
too it's important to us that we do not change how that combat feels and that
leads to some very important design decisions okay what is it first keep our
classes simple yeah but with surprising depth with big idiots that can play
Her class is distinct with each having unique strengths and weaknesses.
No homogenization.
Rogue is not.
Yes.
Exactly.
Fucking exactly.
It's exactly what I want to hear.
Combat pacing is a little slower.
It takes you about 15 seconds to kill a creature on your own.
Unless you're me.
And dungeon gameplay is tactical.
That means crowd control matters.
You need a polymorph, vanish, brute, trapped, monsters to keep control, to keep your healer
from getting killed and keeping the tank from being overrun from too much damage.
No, it does not.
And threat matters.
No, it does not, dude.
Our tanks can only do cred on three or four targets at once.
You can't pull a whole dungeon all at once.
Yeah, but you do a full pack.
Alpha warriors?
No, no, it doesn't matter.
As a warrior, you can do it easily.
One of the things we wanted to do in World of Warcraft forever was unsolve the game.
We've all been far and classic for 22 years,
and we know everything, we know what to do,
we know those perfect paths and what items to get.
What if all that changes?
What if you got to solve it again?
No!
To that end, we've made a ton of changes
to itemization throughout the game.
Whoa!
And we love having many different choices
how to gear your character with different stats.
And those choices changing based on which class you're playing,
what comments you're in, where you go.
So we're keeping all of the stats from
Wild Classic and with a few changes,
and also adding more that came in some of the future expansions.
Good.
I'll say we're not adding resilience.
Good. That shit was dumb.
First, let's talk about hit chance.
In World of Worker Classic,
hit was separate from melee, ranged, and spells,
and that was kind of awkward if you're an enhancement
shaman or a rep paladin,
or even a warrior who wants your taunts to land.
Oh God, did you ever fight here for all types of attacks at once?
You guys have six, but does it just benefit those Paladins?
To do four horsemen?
But also rogues landing their poisons, hunters landing their traps, warriors landing their taunts.
And we've done the exact same thing with your chance to critical strike.
That is also converged in the same way.
Great.
Now, weapon skill was probably the strongest stat, especially for melee in World of Warcraft
classic, but it was a little too easy to get and a little too strong.
So you may recall, in Bornacre Save, we removed it.
Yeah, you did.
Well, we want to keep it so we've rebalanced it.
You can't get quite as much on a single item as you used to, but you can't get it.
It still works.
It's still very valuable.
For our healing classes, one of their problems was you go to next-range.
It's an amazing set of gear.
Yeah.
You go out questing and you can't kill anything.
Right.
Right.
adopted change the BC that all of our healing items also come with bonus damage
Yeah, so our healers can enjoy the whole game as well
I I don't want to have healers that are enjoying the whole game. They should be focusing on healing me
But that's okay. That's fine. That didn't exist in WoW Classic
You can now reduce the chance your attacks to be paired and dodge. That's expertise for tanks. It does double duty
That's expertise spellcaster oriented weapons now grant bonus spelled imaging healing all the way down to level 10
Spellcasters will now care about their weapons as much as warriors and rogues who everyone gets to have a more fun game the full way along cool
One big area of a change was trinkets. We want trinkets to be more
more variety and more different ways to solve problems.
So they're all much more specialized and targeted specific situations.
You've got a bag of litrics.
They did.
You're pulling out a couple of counters in different situations.
The Wargan main talisman here being a great example.
The Wargan bane.
We also added two whole new classes of effects on items, some that only work
or work better in certain areas, mountains or deserts or cities or caverns.
And others that have bonus effects against different species like Excalibur here does
bonus damage against undead and swine, whatever that is.
Well, that makes sense because it drop drops from a rare spawn in Razorfin Downs.
It does massive re-itemization across the entire game.
Every single dungeon boss has had their loot re-examined.
Everything is upgraded to rare quality.
Many new items have been added and old items that maybe weren't up to snuff are
better, but the old favorites that really stand out items are also still there.
So they're so good. Yeah, a new class rewards have been added across the board. Damn four-piece
bleeding famous class as well known to Alliance players in duskwood. You get a class to go kill the undead
Soldier more Latin. Oh, you're super excited about this. You get a group together being fine
That's a little major or shaman or
Priest whatever at the end of the class
You get a two-in-a-sort good. That's great. If you're a warrior or a paladin good. Yeah
So now Morladham also hands you back his heirloom family ring, which is a fantastic spell power ring.
I hate seeing other classes get good things.
Another great example.
When you finish all of Hemet Nessing where he's quest in Stranglethorne, he would give you a Master Hunter's bow or a Master Hunter's crossbow.
He now also has a Master Hunter's wand.
And this Master Hunter Spellsword specifically designed for rep-paladins to do
has strength and spell damage on it together.
And there's much more atomization for all of those
hybrid specs across the game than there ever was before.
We've gone through all of our World Drop epics,
and they've all been revisited.
When you see an epic drop, it's that exciting moment.
I'm getting an epic and they're often really disappointing. They weren't that great actually
So we've gone to do the ball and made them all much stronger much more useful
So you see one of these drop. I'm gonna use that. You know you want to use it or a two percent chance to AOE for a hundred
And even added a few ones like this ranged weapon here throne weapon here
All right next up
Racial Abilities.
One of the things that we like about Racial Abilities and Wild Classic
is they give you a reason to make a new character,
play a new class, play a new race, see the game through new eyes.
So we decided to make our Racial Abilities stronger
and more different than they ever were before.
Oh, wow.
Oh, wow.
We also added six new race class combinations.
No, I'm pleased.
They still have human warrior.
Human Hunters, Dwarf Shamans.
work mages and troll warlocks and of course, the undead power dead.
With more plan to come in future content.
Each race now has two active abilities and two passive abilities.
Tune to give each race an equal, similar amount of offensive power
and signature utility and survivability.
I'm gonna share details of herbs and undead because of our new options with shamans and paladins. Yeah, let's see it
Stone form stone form is mostly unchanged, but you might recall say you were dwarf priests. There were a lot of those
It increased your armor and who cares you had no more it wasn't doing anything
So now it reduces physical damage. It doesn't care how much army. Oh, okay. Yeah makes sense
Flying treasure was a useful racial ability,
but it conflicted with finding herbs,
tracking bees, finding minerals.
So now flying treasure can be active at the same time
as any other tracking ability.
Damn, that's actually okay.
You can look for iron nodes.
Yeah, that's a good idea.
And treasure at the same time.
Inspired by Hem at Nesting Wary,
dwarves now have big game hunter,
giving 5% increase in damage to bees.
Kill an animal.
We really like abilities like this,
because they give each different character
in your party array to chance to shine on a different encounter.
There might be a fight where you're fighting human noise
and the rogue is the best.
You're fighting undead and paladin the best.
During your fighting abuse, the dwarves
are going to get a chance to shine.
So they're going to use it to bring everybody,
everybody gets their moment in the sun.
To troll because they had this.
Finally, Maze specialization is a good example
of how we've changed weapons skill.
So weapons skill used to be only good for melee
and a little too strong.
But now, while a dwarf has any kind of Maze equipped,
They get 1% increased crit chance to their spells, melee, and ranged abilities.
So those shamans and priests will now care about having a Mace equipped and benefits.
Can we get Ash Springer?
Let's move on to the undead.
We'll look for second, but it's a little bit too strong.
Have they talked about this?
It gave the immunity to these effects.
Now it simply breaks them.
But we've made up for it by giving them a lot of new stuff.
Ok.
Cannibalized now doesn't just give you health back, it gives you mana back.
This is ridiculous.
Particularly fantastic for those pallidants.
I think this is OP.
I think Touch of the Grave is OP.
Underwater breathing is as it always was.
But remember, in wild classic, that breath force is really short.
So that increased amount of time underwater makes you able to do a lot more.
I think it's just too strong.
And finally, the big one, Touch of the Grave, this new racial for the undead,
gives them the increased damage and survival that they never had before.
Each of your attacks and spells has a chance to drain health from the target, doing extra damage,
and also healing you and keeping you alive.
I think it should be like 1%.
That's just a taste of our racials.
Go play the demo to see them all.
So like, does a rep palette hit with Consecration?
Because if they do, wouldn't that just like get a little auto-heal you?
They're going to keep having the talents.
But first, I want to talk about our philosophy on talents.
All classes still have three talentaries, they still have seven powers, they still
we'll have those one point talents at 11, 21, 31,
the gold medal talents.
We called them.
We've even added a fourth gold medal talent
at the 16 mark at every single one of the talent trees.
Many talents are exactly the same as they were,
unchanged from 2006.
But many have been updated and improved
and new have been added.
In particular, there were a lot of talents
that gave you better buffs, improved battle shell,
Divine Spirit, Blessing of Kings, and Proof of the Wild, they're all gone.
Good.
All of those bonuses are now baseline to the entire class.
You don't need to tell them to.
F***ing based.
And what's great about that is it makes room for more cool new stuff.
Our goal is to make sure that every single one of our 27 talent trees is a viable option
to bring to your dungeon or raid group.
Where's S-Fan?
You see him in the crowd here?
Every class, every spec is worthy to come.
Because they weren't before.
No class is so strong, respect is so strong that you want to sack them.
And they're not equal.
They all have different distinct strengths and weaknesses that they bring to the group.
I think class across time.
So we don't have time to look at every class, so take a deep dive look at Paladin.
First, what changed for the whole class?
I don't know how many people here played the 2004 beta.
Probably a few. I did.
Jesus, guys, oh!
Now it is back then, an ability called Holy Strike that got cut before the game was shipped.
We brought it back.
Dude, S-Band has been telling me about this strike eight years.
Giving a little bit more melee damage, doing holy damage based on their weapon to the target.
He's actually been telling us for eight years.
12-second cooldown, and every one of the three Paladin trees has ways to improve Holy Strike.
Judgement no longer consumes your seal.
No more seal busywork. You have better things to do.
We've added a new seal called Seal of Fury.
What is it?
It is our answer to tanking Paladins.
What is it?
And yes, you can tank as a Paladin.
Dude, I used to love paladin tanking.
First, every time you swing, just like with sealed righteousness, it does damage to the target,
but it doesn't matter how fast your weapon is.
So the faster the weapon you use, the more damage it will do, the more effective.
So you can have a spell power weapon like a DC.
It creates a small absorb shield to the paladin,
helping him stay alive a little bit.
But most importantly, judgment of fury is your new taunt.
It taunts the target.
And this is particularly interesting because growl and taunts have a five-yard range and
Judgment has a ten-yard range. Okay, now I got a little bit more reached to reach out and grab something and bring it to the fight
Then the other tanks have uh
Then nerf paladins finally what the fuck we had to make some changes to consecration
Those of you who play burning crusade know that paladin consecration came to dominate
It was so good.
And we want to maintain that tactical combat I was talking about where you can't just pull
the whole bunch at once.
So Consecration now does light damage to every target that enters the Consecration and heavy
damage to the first four.
So you're going to have enough threat on those first four targets but not all the rest.
And anyway, I'm respecting your threat and your ability to control the whole room.
That's what you get.
All right, let's move on to talents.
No more AoE farming deadmines.
Paladins suck.
Everybody has improvements to Holy Strike.
The very first row of Holy has improved Holy Strike, reducing its cooldown.
Probably every Paladin is going to take this one.
Voice of Truth is their new 11-point gold medal talent,
giving some immunity to silence and interrupts.
Reverence, however, is a big change for Paladins.
Yes, Paladins will now care about spirit and get regen from it while in combat.
in combat. In fact, all of our classes that do damage and healing via mana will have talents
or abilities that give them mana back based on your spirit.
Oh yeah, this was good.
Spirit is worth having on your gear.
This was good.
That includes especially Holy Paladins and Resta Shamans. And finally, Divine Power used
to be a little deeper in the tree, it used to be a 21, it's moved to 61, 16 to make
room for more stuff. But basically the same as it ever was. Moving on.
Okay, that's fine. That was never like a super good spell, in my opinion.
Holy Paladin.
Infusion of Light is a new talent that solves a problem that Holy Paladin has had across
multiple extensions, but either they're casting Flash or Light all the time or nothing else.
Krust is talking like a target to add towards me, but both negative and positive.
That's how I'm searching to mix those spells together and use her whole to...
So like that consecration nerf?
Holy shock used to be the 31 point talent
and is now at 21 points in the country,
which makes it a reach of a lot of hybrid PVP builds
in particular.
And its cooldown has been reduced to 10 seconds.
You can use it a lot more often.
It's going to be key for another building
about to talk about.
Consecrated ground plays into the whole Chakadun fantasy
of holy.
Well, that's actually really cool.
Consecration may take more holy damage from your attacks.
Yeah, that's I like that.
Light's vigil solves several problems for Paladins.
The biggest one is they have no way to heal a whole party at once.
Oh, dude, didn't they add this in raft?
They can do that, or trauma is a chain heal.
They add this in raft, right?
So instead, Light's vigil requires setup.
You put Light's vigil on a target, one of your friends,
then the next time you holy shock them,
the entire party of that target will be healed,
and holy shocks cool down will be reset.
If you're really smart, you put Light's vigil up on multiple parties,
and then it's holy shock holy shock holy shock holy shock and your whole raid group is back to a place
The big blast to hit that's fucking nuts
similar that you can use it on enemies to do increased damage and again
reset the cooldown of holy shock to support that shock it and build we'll do aoe if you apply it to a target
moving on to protection palette and talents
Their new 11 point talent is improved seal of fury. Okay, which gives a mana back when seal of fury blocks damage
and shield specialization combines with it to give them enough mana to sustain combat for the entire boss.
I think Paladin might be better than the warrior.
The more things you're blocking, the more mana you're getting.
I don't know though. It depends on how they do crushing blows.
It solves a problem that all our tanks have. It's their new 16-point talent.
What do you do when your taunt misses?
If you're a warrior, you hit Mocking Blow. You hit Challenging Show. If you drew it, you hit Challenging Roar.
Yeah.
You're a Paladin, switch judgment,
re-sets the cooldown on judgment and lets you use it again
to taunt the target again and get a second chance.
Or maybe use it creatively on the pull to get more judgment debuffs up on the target quickly.
That's nuts. That's actually crazy.
Paladin is going to be a 21-point talent.
It might actually be the best deck.
It plays with their system for Barons.
Oh my God, I'm so mad.
It triggers for Barons, it's preventable for Barons,
but it also grants you an absorb shield equal to 100% of your health,
making you a lot more survivable.
But it's a hard choice up against things like Divine Shield.
What? That's insane.
Reckoning is an old favorite.
That's crazy.
It's not going anywhere.
But it's been improved.
Like, tanks just supposed to be uncritable, right?
So, Reckoning now has a chance to trigger every time you block.
And if you're tanking more things, you're blocking more things,
getting more extra attack.
This is stupid.
I hate this.
I mean, Ironcrate is a deep towel in Prott
that when you use a holy strike, reduces your damage you take
for a few seconds by 10%.
So a very careful paladin can help their healers keep them alive
in those critical moments by timing their holy strike.
This is so stupid.
All right, finally, retribution.
It's so dumb.
Vindication is an old talent that everybody skipped.
What it did was reduce the target's strength and agility,
but in PvE, it had basically no effect.
We've reworked it and now it works like demoralizing shout and demoralizing roar,
reducing the target's attack power.
By the way, all three of those reduced by the same amount.
Okay, that's good.
Sacred Arbiter is a unique Paladin utility.
When Paladins judge a target,
the way they have to maintain it is staying close to judge again or mailing that target.
But now with Sacred Arbiter,
a red Paladin can keep the judgments up for
all of these other paladins in their party array.
I think so benefit from my kind of wisdom and crusader at the same time
So I'm like that light is a new ability deep in the tree because increased spell damage and healing based in your intellect
So now those items that increase your manifold. Maybe you don't want to skip those
Maybe you want those combined with broland and all there's a lot of damage. I know I know
Instrument of the law solves two problems. So one of the camera breath instant
for retribution tolerance.
That's good, it always should have been.
Second, now that they're damaged as good as everyone else,
they need a little threat reduction.
Uh-huh.
Finally, twist of light is our answer to seal twisting,
which you know you love.
Uh-huh.
At least something you do.
So now, each time you replace one of your damaging seals
with another seal, you get an echo of the replaced seal.
And then your swing, your melee swings benefit from both seals
at the same time.
Okay, that's cool.
seal command and seal righteousness,
every swing will benefit from both seals.
So it just makes it easier to do?
But I do know some people do not like seal twisting.
So, using that increased spell power from Champion of Light,
drop this talent, go 21 points down holy,
and use holy shock for a shock and build on retribution instead.
Okay. Wow.
So, the gate paladins,
some new tools that they were solely lacking.
But we left them with significant holes in their toolkit. We don't want to homogenize our classes
We still can't interrupt. They still cancel the target down, but they are very very strong against demons and undead
They have limited range capabilities dude
I just feel like there's no key as a team and judgment system that no as a great tank. They're okay effects
They can be very effective. What do you mean? They deal competitive damage
But as a healer they have limited ability to heal a party. They've got a plan ahead use lights vigil
but they're still the best single target healer in the game,
able to maintain their mana pool longer than any other class can.
Oh, man.
I wasn't able to share with you all of our changes for every class erased today.
Please go play the demo.
This is really bad, guys.
Check out the beta when it comes out on Thursday.
We will have videos and blogs and questions and discussions in the weeks to come.
We'll give you more details and a deeper vision for all of these classes and specializations.
You're a great channel for our station to be today.
Have a great BlizzCon, everybody.
What, by the way, what a amazing presentation.
What a crazy, crazy great presentation.
Like all three of the guys, or four technically,
of the people that did that were actually so good.
There's one more advantage with this.
There's one more thing.
with MSI's QD OLED monitors built to last brilliance ahead it's it's a
215 wait I thought there was another one that's happening wait what does this
say um the deep dive
world building and World Warcraft like that's the that's the main one right so
So this is in 45 minutes.
Is that it?
Because Diablo 4 I'm not interested in Diablo 4.
Watch Diablo?
I'm not interested in Diablo?
After AWC on the Warcraft channel?
Okay, okay.
Because that's the other one that I want to watch.
Am I going to do the demo?
Am I going to play the beta, you mean?
The demo is only available at BlizzCon.
Is there still add-ons?
Yeah, I think there's still going to do add-ons.
So what are my thoughts so far on the topic and everything?
I think that generally this was pretty good.
I mean, I don't think it was awful or anything else.
I think it actually went pretty well.
Like, almost everything that they announced, I would say, are things that I would
want.
I feel like this was actually really really good like you would expect it to be kind of problematic or
You know them not to make the right decisions. So let me just go back and talk about some of this a little bit
so the only thing that I was really kind of uncertain about is
These like leveling trees
Like that's the only thing that gave me trepidation or pause
Everything besides this like this this progress track
uh, for uh, 415 Eastern next forever event. Well, I don't know about that. I'll have to look,
uh, but almost nothing excited. Yeah. I mean, the server thing was fucking insane, man.
And uh, and the bat. Yeah. Like, I just, like, it's an alt system.
I just want to see what the points are, right? I want to see what the points are.
And I, I just, I, I don't know. Like, I'm just worried that somehow it's going to be,
like, something where people feel like they have to make alts and something.
so I don't know yet and what is this here and it's a reroll system to encourage
trying other classes to get bonuses to go faster yeah I mean I just I guess I'll
have to see the the talent tree right I mean like that's that's it so it gives
all the armies an advantage yeah I don't want to have somebody that makes like
10 characters that has like a you know like a gameplay advantage over me because
then it's just gonna make everybody have to do that and just get every single
one to 25 and like min max to get like the right allocation
of points. So I don't know like that. That's the only thing
that I'm uncertain about.
Have they mentioned while token implementation? I mean, I
think that's like totally off the table, right? I mean, like
that's not even a question whether that's going to happen
or not. It's just not going to happen. So I mean, like, I'm
sure it's possible it could happen, but I find it to be
very, very unlikely. So is anything from the beta carry
I hope not everybody should start at the same place
Let's say they get everything correct. Are you gonna go full-time? Wow forever?
What you now I'm gonna play one video game all the time on my stream. No, I'm gonna run
I've run out of stuff to do in the game and then what am I gonna do so anything at all on arenas?
I don't like I don't think they should do arenas because arenas change the way that people play PvP
I think that PvP the focus should be around world PvP. I talked about this earlier
But I think that's really the main the main thing I look at it, right? You play Paladin
I do actually I played Paladin so I played so in vanilla Wow
I only played a warrior
But if you go back and and you can you can look at this right like let me see if I can just pull it up as my gold
Jesus Christ, I don't know why it always does that it opens up the same thing that I already have open
Why would you can do this?
As my gold actually just that we're on
So
Let me see. No, that's not it. Yeah, and where is it?
oldest
So like if you go back and you look at my old videos
You'll see me doing aoe farming all the time like I used to think this was the coolest fucking thing
Like here's a great example, right?
This is me doing aoe farming back in fucking
Wrath of the Lich King
So this is my prop Paladin and this video was uploaded 16 years ago, okay?
So like I always actually really like like one thing to me that I always thought was like super cool
Was being able to do like really big AoE farming stuff, right?
Like I loved being able to do this which by the way they're getting rid of this Paladins deserve to lose this it was
overpowered and
So yeah, the Hobbs stuff. Yeah, it's like yeah, I used to love his videos. I thought they were amazing
So while Hobbs got me into it
So like to me I always played a prop Paladin and like, you know, I would play and go and do this is just me
Just like randomly playing the game, right?
And it's just like, you know a we and and doing all this like I used to love doing this
So every class had something it was OP. Well, like the thing is with prop Paladins like this is just my opinion
I think that they're that like they were just better than warriors in every single way
Just straight up I think they were better than warriors in every single way like in burning crusade and if they make these changes
I feel like you know overall they are going to be better than warriors for tanking like unless they change other stuff
Surrounding that right? I mean, I'm not sure really if they're gonna do that or not
But that's what I would expect and this is you know, oh that's that's actually me and fucking
This is what is this?
This is me and Jeff doing ZG for the last time before they took it before they took it out of the game
Because that they changed the whole they changed this is the last run that we did at the original ZG
Or sorry, ZA.
ZA.
Before they took it out of Classic, or sorry, out of Cata,
and then they redid it.
We would play together like every day.
Jeff was the one who ninja-looted me,
flame talent of a Listerzore.
Do you miss those times?
Yeah.
We might have, honestly, we might have been in the same room doing this together.
Yeah, and Cataclysm's story is still pending.
Yeah, it's gonna be really soon, guys.
Don't worry about it.
And yeah, we had, I mean, it's like some of these videos that I would do.
Like, I remember, I think it's in this video that I'm just like listening to, like, uh...
Erp, Erp, not to get this one.
Alright.
Fuck it.
Alright, alright, this next part here is for uh, Spider, Pyrochimus, Kraken.
My friend's there?
And like he's in- like we're in a group together.
This is the guy I started playing LaWith.
And like halfway, I think it's this video, halfway through like it's either one of
these two videos, I just interrupt the video because he's sitting behind me like,
Zach are you lagging? I think I'm lagging dude. Are you lagging?
It's like...
Just fucking out of nowhere right bro said slash for it. I don't know what I said. Oh this yeah
This was uh, this was a classic. Let me tell you that you don't want to watch this one on stream
I'll tell you that so um, I am just so
excited. I really am. I'm so excited and I guess you had to be there. I did and it was
so fun, man. I enjoyed myself. Pete D. Jen Asmon. Cataclysm? Yeah, you're right. Are they
going to do something about Ninja Looting in forever? They should just ban the people
that do it, right? And also like, I mean, the thing is that you can't, when you
give people the privilege of freedom, that also comes with a cost. And that's the
reality
You can't have people that are able to like because you don't want to have what they did to retail
You don't want to have that this is exactly a wizard. Wow forever
This is exactly what I and many others want
Maybe it's just me
There's such childless miserable community crying didn't get exactly what they wanted. I don't like I don't like I do
Like posts like this, but I also don't like posts like this. Here's why I
I don't like how they're framing anybody who is expressing passion about the game as just a loser
Complainer idiot retard
Like I don't I don't know why you would do that like ultimately. I mean like I know yeah no personal loot
Yeah, I thought personal loot was stupid. I never liked personal loot, but yeah, so it's to get a meta conversation
Yeah, I mean like shouldn't we try to give feet like and and here's here's what I would argue to anybody who's making these threads
Wow, forever is because people didn't listen to you.
Wow, forever is because people didn't accept the way that retail was.
Wow, forever is because people said we want classic.
And then after they got classic, they said we want more classic.
So stop trying to go around and micromanage what people are and they're not allowed to say.
I think it's stupid.
What do you think about Skyborn?
I think it's stupid.
I don't want Skyborn in the game.
I don't like it.
I don't like skyborne. I wish they had just done high elves and ogres
There's like five other races they could have done that would have been better than skyborne
They could have done cult here in you know like fun. They could have done like for example like cult here in
Humans like the ones from BFA kind of because they had those in the base game
They did like you remember like that that that that model of like the fucking like the wizard that looked like Rob zombie
Right. I mean they already had that
Skyborn is the HR race. I mean, I don't know about that, but I just don't like him. I hope they don't browse reddit for feedback
Wait, well, what do you mean?
Like I mean, I feel like yeah if game devs took reddit feedback can seriously they'd cancel all the games
I think this is I think this is so wrong. I do. I think it's so wrong
And I think this might be a thing actually gets in the wild for the first time. I love everything else
I feel don't like sky born. I want a classic class with modern quality of life and modern graphics options
It's going to deliver. I'm almost I'm almost embarrassed. How excited I am considering. I'm a 40 year old man
Fucking based right so there you go. What do you think of sky people? Do they?
What up working on goblins? I mean like I'd be okay
I think goblins would make more sense for them to be a horde race
I think that you could add in other customization options for
Dwarves like for example wild hammer dwarves and dragon maw orcs, you know because back in the day
So like this is a really big thing in Warcraft 2 is that before thrall and like the other orcs united the clans
There were all of these competing orc clans that had their own separate identity
You know they were like the dragon maw clan the war song clan the frost wolf clan the fucking
laughing skull clan
uh... the uh... it's storm something i forgot what it was
uh... hell scream or you why i think that was war song that was war song
and dot we have a black rock land yet there you go
uh... shadow moon yet shattered hand
and so like you had storm weaver's yeah and they had like fucking like these
ogre mages they could like cast fucking
you know electricity spells and shit
that it was super fucking cool
and i feel like they should have added just more of that customization
right
Are you excited to restart Olympus and raid?
Yeah, I am actually.
I hate to say it, but I'm actually excited.
Like, let me see.
Orcs used to be diverse.
Yeah, I will look at.
Somebody said that they have a talent tree.
Let me see.
Okay, so this is warrior, right?
Talents forever, while forever,
calculator okay this looks like all this looks pretty much about the same
maximum rage okay so what about prod this product and anything crazy I feel
like guys I feel like Paladin is just gonna destroy warrior for tank man I
I don't even know if warriors worth playing.
I don't.
Like, I'm really worried that it's gonna be bad, bro. Like, have faith.
I have to play DPS though.
Shield wall is a four-minute cooldown. Oh, really? I didn't even see that.
Uh, yeah. What is this? Your shield wall by 55 minutes? Okay.
Uh, the new gear is gonna make up for it. I mean, I really hope so, dude.
Like, I mean...
What are any of these new? I mean, like, I don't know. I'm just like looking at everything.
Ah. I mean, all this is pretty much the exact same.
I mean, I think they should make some changes too to this, right? But we'll see what happens.
Everyone better roll greed. Oh god, dude. Like, do you remember that whenever...
I remember I was at... So this is really, really funny. Let me see. Can I still pull up the thread about this? Classic. Wow.
No
Oh my god, okay, where's the original one?
Um, so what is this here streamers like Asmongold? No, that's not it. Where is the
Oh no, I can't find it. So there was this guy that ninja looted Asmongold and
Esfand Ninja Century Cloak on stream oh my does this does this link still work let me
see if it does oh it doesn't work okay sorry guys so other stream Esfand T dude dude
Oh
My god
Pepe hands no time machine. I know the old clip doc deleted wait as money
Yeah, dude this guy's coming with all the receipts
It's coming with all the receipts
So S Fad looks bad as months whole persona is screwing people over and boasting about it
Saying he's as anything else at this stage is a moot point
He uses his viewers to attack anyone who calls him out look at this joke of a thread that his stream
Brigaded there are some things that never change. I was I have been a toxic parasite
For like I was thinking about this right is that I have been a toxic parasite to this video game for 20 years
for 20 years I have been
harassing
Annoying stealing people shit out of the game causing problems like really that's the better part of my life
I've had I've just been annoying in this game
And 20 more 20 more to go maybe right I don't know and I can't wait to give you my copper as soon as I spawn in dude
I am gonna be begging dude like whenever whenever I hit level 40
We're gonna make it an event and like a challenge to who can give me the most gold so I can buy my first mount
Okay, like I'm I'm just I'm gonna be the biggest fucking roach that you could ever imagine
Alright, that's what's gonna happen. Have they talked about dual spec yet? They haven't I think on popular
I think they should do dual spec. I think they should here's why I
I think that it's bad that like a tank and a healer can't go out and play the rest of the game that
They should unless they spend 50 gold on it
Because like a DPS and even a DPS like some classes have a PvP spec and a PvE spec and I think spending gold to do that
Now the only problem with that is that
Respecking is a gold sink
So you'd have to add more gold sinks into the game
But I think that you should have dual spec dual spec was in the demo. Yeah, well, I think they should have that
Dual spec was confirmed yesterday. Oh, how did I miss that? Well anyway?
What is this here soda popping about stream sniping at hypocrite? Oh my god. This is
Asmongole about negativity. Oh wow. Let me see if I can figure out any more of these
Relevance top
Classic WoW streamers who aren't garbage.
I tuned in to Asmongold and watched him throw a temper tantrum over the Grubashi arena chest.
Then beg his fans and guild and stream for gold for his best in slot necklace, only to
be reminded to thank the guy that gave him 25 gold.
Totally arrogant, talks like a chud.
Tuned in to soda poppin.
He is the king of ninja wow streamers in terms of holding the top spot of all time and also
being insufferable.
Saw King Gathalian streaming to 2000 people and laughed at his inevitable decline.
What streamers for this game, classic in particular?
So is it true that still in classic wow, one of the most popular threads in the history
of classic WoW was a hate thread about me? Let me see if I can find it. I really... it's
still here. It's actually still here. You have to look at this, okay? Just to put it
in the context, alright? These are the most popular posts of all time of the
classic, classic WoW subreddit. There have never been any other posts that were
more popular than this. And this is it. I was literally at the top. And the next
one is dude, dude, method joker. Oh my god. I'm just reading some of these. I
Dude the classic wow drama was so fucking funny. Oh my god
Let me see if I can find any more of these if there's any other drama on behalf of casuals. What is this?
Okay, so let me read this. All right
As been gold failed classic well at the end of the day
He's the only person and it doesn't matter in the long run
But as a person who has watched him for a long time and has even given him my twitch prime
time, he has failed Classic WoW. Asmongold spent many years, and as did a lot of people,
begging Blizzard to release Classic WoW servers for many reasons. Community. Leveling experience.
The RPG elements that disappeared throughout the years. Fun.
The old zones. Grouping up with other players all the time. There's a million reasons
we all wanted Classic WoW, but I think it's really sad that he and many streamers shit-talked
BFA forever, saying they would play Classic differently, only to go around begging for gold
and items. They spent years saying, we're finally going back home, boys. WoW is alive again. WoW
is back, baby. Only to beg for gold and items from other players after saying they strictly
wouldn't only to spam scarlet monastery to level only to beg for gold for your first mount when you
said you wouldn't you said you wouldn't bro
dude this is such a fun month man like it was actually insane how crazy this was do it again
well if you go back and you look at it like let me see can i pull it up like on twitch tracker
this is gonna be an old one so dude where was it says 19 right yeah look at
this here this was in 2019 and we had an average fewer base of 60,000 people this
This was literally fucking before COVID and our average viewership was 60K.
Was fucking insane, right?
And it's sad they don't have any clips.
I know that everyone through the KP will watch you sleep.
I did.
And yeah, so this was it.
And anyway, so all this happened.
So everybody was watching this show.
Everybody was watching it.
And so, only, and I remember McConnell and I,
let me, can I find any of these?
McConnell, Asmongold,
agree to not take gold classic, wow.
Dude.
Dude!
What?
Have you seen this shit on Reddit about you?
No, man, what?
What the fuck is this about how you're a big dumb cheater taking gold from people, dude?
Yeah, I know. They're mad.
They should be.
Why?
Bullshit.
Bullshit?
Why is it bullshit?
You took gold from viewers, you broke our deal.
Yeah, I did.
I broke the deal about going on a PvE server, too.
What was the deal? You weren't debating on that for months.
No, I was resolute. I was resolute. I decided to go on a PvE server.
You broke the deal!
I was talking about the other streamers that were talking about it.
I said I didn't know.
I originally wanted to roll on Herod.
Well, don't lie and say you don't know what the fuck you're gonna do.
I know what you're gonna do.
No, I'm talking about the other step.
I'm talking about the other eight months leading up to that.
Remember all the times on all crap?
Ours in there.
Where is it?
No, I still quested.
Me too.
I quested with McDowell.
This was another paladin.
High-quested too.
Oh my god.
I think I fell in love with the more question you had.
Oh plus the bullshit where you left me behind dude.
You left us behind.
This was the biggest lie that he ever told about Classic WoW.
So basically this was the night of Classic WoW whenever we first started playing and
And McConnell was intentionally griefing me and Esfand and fucking up our quests.
And so finally, McConnell left the group or something like that and we got separated.
And then he was mad about this for like fucking a year, like two years.
What do you mean?
You left us behind.
It's the only dungeon between 30 and 40.
Yeah, but there are quests that you can do too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, you could do some in S.T.V.
of the time, I wasn't doing dungeons. It's just not even true. And the day before that,
I wasn't hardly doing any dungeons at all, except for maybe like two or three.
How often did you get ganked?
Ah, yesterday. I don't remember honestly.
Uh-huh.
And how much did the gear and extra gold help you?
I don't know.
You're comparing-
He's actually dude. He's actually farming and so this is it only to beg for gold
For your first mount when you said you wouldn't only to say can I get that whenever an item drops only to say
I don't want to do that quest
It doesn't give good enough loot only to do the exact same things and behave in the same way that you do on retail
You had a second chance to relive classic WoW and you threw it all away.
You can't use the excuse, but I decided to roll on a PvP server so I don't want to be left behind.
Because we know that's an excuse. Don't even try to justify your lie.
You asked for legacy servers for years, but when they came around you just weren't strong
enough to do it without begging for golden items. At the end of the day, who cares? He's just one
person. But as a top lousestreamer, it's sad. You failed classic. You failed your fans. But most
of all, you failed yourself. We thought more highly of you. You're disappointed.
This is the top this is like the top post on the last separate it for like a year
it was I love that dude this was I had so much fun just watch mad season dude it
made me so mad about mad season so he would always want to do battlegrounds
with me and I was like why does he always why do I always end up doing
battlegrounds with mad season and it was because mad season would always get
targeted in the battlegrounds and so he wouldn't really be able to play the game
but whenever I was in the game because we both played warrior and but then when I
was in the game then I would get targeted and he could play the game
because I more people knew me right so like everybody would go after me and
they would ignore him and he could play the game fine so he'd always be
like oh you want to join this group you want to come play right you were
this target yeah exactly it's a tank swap yeah and anyway there's good shit
list of people ganking him what is this here this is some other this is from
like a long time ago the ganking was very annoying to be fair I honestly had no
idea people gave this big of a shit about streamers I turned on asmon once
and he was obnoxious like most streamers and I've never watched him again dude it
really like we really had a good time I'm gonna be honest like we had such an
insanely good time I love his last point that he made it makes a lot of sense
what's the last point the McConnell made yeah and I'm waiting you know
So, QT, little speech yesterday where you just
Oh yeah, McCombie baby
He's streaming
What level are you?
I'm fucking almost 42
Okay
Do you want to do all the man-ledon?
No
Fuck you
Well what do you mean? I-
Shut the- what the fuck do you mean no?
I'm out, peace
Wait, wait, I have one more point to bring up
Thank God
This is the peak, can we see it?
It's so stupid!
It was so fucking retarded!
What is this?
Olympus killed in Sirect, oh no!
I just want to say, we will not be led by weak officers.
We are a strong guild.
We are a noble guild.
We will not allow weakness.
We will rule the streets.
Hello.
I am the new GM of Olympus 9.
That's right, chat.
999.
Our government, our guild had no government or structure.
So the best part about this is so I get this guy, so this guy took over one of my Olympus
guilds and he led an insurrection against me.
The best part of this was when he said, he was like, guys, we're going to build a wall.
We're going to build a wall.
And that's what Olympus, that that's why our Olympus is better than yours.
And he says, look behind me, we're already doing it.
And he was standing in front of the wall for Stormwind.
That was the funniest fucking thing, dude.
See, it's already happening!
Play it? I don't know where that part is, right? I have no idea.
I'm gonna ask you a series of questions to test your competency as a guild leader.
And as a vanilla wild player.
If you can answer three of these five questions right, I'll give you 100 gold.
Go ahead go ahead you got to answer quick
You ready
What are the names of the four forcemen and next Romans oh thank Corthos Lady Blamau
Sir Zeleic and
Alexandra Smogren
What was that?
Alright.
Nice try.
Nice try.
I can literally hear your keys.
He goes, what is that?
He goes, what's that?
That's tough. I didn't know that.
I did. What do you mean?
So, yeah.
And no, I played this shit a lot.
Like, I knew everything about the game.
I remember everything about the game.
about the game you look more bald than that video dude I look really bad bro like it was just
don't hurt me no this was just so fun impeach jigsaw impeach trump 2 creed has no place in America
message noon hire oh my that was a mage I remember that guy holy shit oh wow muckuck is garbage by the
way look at that Olympus X is accepting refugees like can't get rid of the jig
like is that that sounds racist I feel like I shouldn't even say that yeah
Olympus 9 just disowned the guild bad leadership this is not a real asmon
guild anymore jigsaw forever like it's just fucking ridiculous here it is let
Let me see, can I find it?
After this, we'll get the new stuff, but I'm sorry,
I just, I love this so much.
As my reign, hold on, as my reign as GM in Olympus 9,
I have got a lot of things done.
First off, look behind me.
We have started the structure of our wall.
We are building this wall if you come over here to the gates
These guards are not storm wind guards. They are border security guards
We have built a big wooden door for people to come in legally
legally
We've also
Have signed an executive order. Yeah
building infrastructure over the next couple years we will build barbershops
an outfitter called transmogifier no we also will build more mailboxes in all
cities no we are making it great again what do you that that's not great
Nobody wants more bad boxes. What else are you doing?
McConnell wants more! What else?
Tell me more!
Oh my god, this script is still better than Season 8 Game of Thrones.
Jigsaw is either a perfect actor or a madman. I'm entertained either way.
The most surprising thing is that we went up a level.
He's already done more than any guild master in history.
Best Paid Actor in Asmon Stream. Now that we are, we're like, this is like six or seven years after the fact, okay?
I can say, with absolute certainty, we had no idea who this person was.
All of this came out of nowhere. There was never a plan to do any of this. All of it just happened.
It all just happened.
There was no grand design.
There was no conspiracy or anything else.
Holy shit.
And Farilina was a movie.
We are going to, we are going to redo Olympus, man.
We are.
We're going to redo Olympus.
We're going to build the team up again.
And I don't know if we're going to need multiple Olympus skills or not, right?
It's like I don't know how many people are gonna play this versus the first classic, but if we need to we will make Olympus too. We will
What we're gonna make and we will be we will be the plague
We will be the plague that infests the game
We will be the virus
we will be the poison and
Where is yeah?
Olympus. Let me just look at Olympus. How do you feel about Olympus? Asmongold called
us a bunch of fat sandwich lovers. So here are 27 pictures of me killing Olympus members.
Olympus Guild currently has 6000 to 7000. Is this unprecedented in WoW history? We
He made the largest guild of all time, by the way.
That's a lot of people funneling loot to Asmon.
Typical classic while Redditor complains that Asmigold is fucking everywhere, doesn't really
make any sense about him.
Why does he have the same look on his face every time someone posts him?
Aren't there guilds capped at 1000 players?
Asmigold, being the leader of a cesspool guild, hardly a surprise.
What's wrong with his guild?
notorious for having less than favorable members. Did you see a deep dive about servers? I did,
I'm super happy about it. Dark Olympus, like Dark Maga. Listen, guys, I don't know about that.
Oh man, I'm not able to find the Royson one. I'm sure that I could. But so basically,
whenever I was at TwitchCon, there was a guy who ninja-looted a Edgemaster's gauntlets,
And he was a mage that I had played with for the entire time.
So this is the last fucking nostalgia thing that I want to do.
And then I do want to talk about the new one.
Do you remember this?
Which one is this, Max?
Let me look at it.
What is this?
This one?
Let me pull it up.
Okay.
Stay safe.
Does that...
The Stay Safe Disc Track.
Okay.
Uh, it's a little ultra-pog
This is before by the way, this is before AI this was straight off the dome
for a mother bird or reddit and you cry on the entire for a queen
Oh back to POE you're mad cuz you're not
CLC MP3 took a BPC we've got track and run on pictures how it feels to be a leak
now I'm talking about COVID-19 you're mad cuz we don't know how to get it
but I'm so proud you go and shoot it and undercut the leathers on the
market to pollute it out if you fucking strike go to seven gold cuts
throw it up make it crash you're a bunch of fucking it's just so good
This is so good
It's actually so good it was actually so insanely fucking good, I don't even know what to say the guild drama a
Girl didn't you get a little less that room in it?
yeah I was given the ring that oh god here we go yeah somebody else it was
sure let me just put this on a backburner something else like pressing
no absolutely no problem yeah we're gonna put you on the back burner okay I
know my place yeah yeah
So who got that? Who got that?
Dude.
Takashi.
Remini, you're still there. Takashi? I remember Takashi.
Yep, just taking my turn.
Yep, sorry about that. Okay, so how do you feel like the Luton MC, you know, didn't go the way that you, I guess, felt in the show going?
Uh, well, I mean, it was just the matter of like, hey dude, you're told to roll up.
She tried to claim to suscript it. Wait, wait a minute!
Is it this thing? Is it was was this the girl that like five of you guys were trying to talk to at the same time?
the the priest
Don't think I didn't know about that
Don't think I had no idea I knew that was happening
Quick I found out about this
found a Royson one as well okay let me go and make sure that we're not missing
anything for the the the fucking the thing right okay deals with the Royson
ninja-looting drama oh my god yeah there it is Asmongold's officer Royson
teaches us a lesson on ninja-looting 16,000 up-votes
Think about that 16,000 just for context just so you guys understand how big that is
These are the top posts that are on on wiles reddit right now
The top post about the new video game
2000
600
2000 800
1600 400 this had 16,000
Edgemaster is 400. It scaled up massively. And then, yeah, he says all greed, right? This
is a guy, he goes all greed.
safe talking about it as well. I mean, and then so all of this happens and it culminates
in me deciding that Royson has to give it back and pay it off if Quinn beats him in
a duel because he ninja-dotted it from somebody from Quinn's guild.
This full health though. Royson making a distance with almost no man on whatsoever. And then
Quinn with the Kobe grenade hitting fucking Royson interrupting that second cast and then
When making the distance over to him with blessing of freedom
No!
Is this the end?
Oh Royce and doing a cold snap for a second ice block going all in on this first duel
Everything that he's got
Yeah, this is Quinn
Quinn sitting there waiting to bandage up doing whatever he can keeping himself alive
And then ohhhh
Fuck!
Stay down bro
Stay down bro
That was a block from Earthshaker right there at the end
Quinn with the first
He said ninja
He called him a ninja
Okay?
the first one it's two out of three three two one go oh my sir's gone once
listen opens up the fire blast immediately wait as man yeah real quick
can you check at the clip I just sent you I think this is this might change
everything about I'm they run great they run great
it read it run great it just got it run great why would I greed this is
unethical he's already your okay good any great right all right good everyone's
This is this even these random VODs of these events would get like half a million views man
Like I guess when you see Olympus always roll need
guys we had so much fun playing classic wow pull me up there's DJ penguin you
were there too yep you were there he was one of my old classic wow guilds yet how
dare you skip me presenting the gauntlets give me a minute where is it in
in the video that is wait been served oh my god he says the justice how dare you
present the skipply there he is please present the gauntlets the edge
Master's gauntlets to Quinn
He's her thing bro
He's a no trade
Justice
What?
Who do you own, you know?
Justice has been served.
Yeah, so shut the fuck up, Reddit.
Yeah, please, Reddit, stop threatening my wife.
Thanks.
Yeah, I was literally the same thing was scripted.
The guys, you don't care.
I just wanted to love some free helmets.
So.
We did all this completely off the cuff.
And then all of this was totally off the cuff.
Context, please.
It's you had to be there.
Like I remember there was this one and then the the other one that was really really good was asman gold
That this one this was the dumbest video
This was one of the dumbest videos you've ever made
We're basically, uh, fucking- So somebody else had Master Looter, and then they gave
them out to a random guy, and then another guy gave them out, but then McConnell won the
role, but then I was gonna buy it, but then the other guy had it, and nobody knew what
to do with the mount and then eventually we decided that the only way that we could deal
with them out properly was to go back into the raid and delete it.
Just delete them out bro, get rid of it.
The judgement helmet video.
Dude the Aussie, remember that fucking, oh my god, Aussie fucking should have got that.
What a bunch of horseshit that was.
Dude, these videos were so fucking funny.
Gets humiliated by my it's Sartherian Trash AoE farming.
I mean, and dude, we have been doing it.
It's actually crazy how long ago this has been five minutes until the next forever event.
Have I successfully wasted enough time?
Have I done it?
What have I done it in the proper way?
I've actually wasted so much time that we now have time because that was impressive.
You've got to admit, right?
You've got to admit, that was very impressive.
I was able to do that.
Okay, where is it here, BlizzCon?
Okay, um...
Which one is it?
The next chapter?
Having like good energy and being hype about the same thing.
It's just such a sick thing.
A lot of my team have never been to these events before.
So for them to just come and kind of like have their rookie showing. Yeah, I'm not sure they want them when anything. Yeah
Which one is it is on this one? It's a big deal to play blizzcon. Yeah, I'm very excited
It's world building yeah, I know that's what matters
This is the main. This is that this is the last big one
If somebody wants to find me a link you can
Did you cover the AI doomer topic today, no, I'm gonna look at all that stuff after this
Actually, let me use the bathroom real quick and then we can get ready for the event, okay?
Legend Stage will just help me find it, like just give me a thing to it on YouTube and I'll do it.
Okay, all right, more to link bait, let's get this bitch, is this it?
This ain't it though, right?
music. G-Boo, where we at? There it is. Let's get it.
Oh, big dick.
World building.
Alright, let's go.
I'm ready.
Let me get the music set up.
Start with that.
You supposed to demonstrate using GPT Astra?
I actually got it.
I got it. I don't know.
I already have this on my phone. Yeah.
I'm like, it's funny how, isn't it funny how the stigma between mobile games has changed so much ever since the Diablo Mortal announcement?
I feel like if they had announced the mobile Diablo like now, nobody would really care.
But like I think that just back then like phone games were so bad then like that was before I think that you know what really changed it
Was Genshin impact man Genshin impact coming out and being good actually just made phone games normalized
for like a fucking average people
COVID rise stuff of it. Yeah, it was Genshin impact because it was the first good phone game, right?
I think they're both pretty much pay to win, right? I mean, I think Genshin's better than
that, but I'm not really quite it. Oh, here is this. Oh, spend money, spend money, money,
money, money, money, money. When I'm in a Pee Wee mobile, good question. I don't
know what that'll happen to that. Phone games are straight money games. The only
phone game I have is Twitter. We desperately wanted to cop her jab before. Yeah, I remember
people were so mad because they thought it was going to be a really big announcement
and it was something stupid. Have you seen a couple of rich one-shotting everyone in
PPP and laughing like a maniac? Where he goes, ah, yeah, I remember that. I remember it
really well. Those are some good times. The Diablo. Do you remember the Diablo
Mortal Allcraft that we did with me, Rich, Quinn and Josh Stryfaze? I remember when
We did that we got fucking like it's like 70 or 80,000 years
Fucking nuts dude that that video was so popular
Starting from the first 2d maps to the gorgeous forests and cities that you folks get to explore in game
I'm one of your hosts, Christy, and I'm up here with my co-host, Vic.
Yeah, we're so excited to be back again for the first time since BlizzCon 2019.
Last time, Christy and I were on stage, we were showing off Revendreth and Maldraxxus
ahead of the Shadowlands launch, and we can't wait to give you another
behind-the-scenes look on how we build the world.
So let's start with some introductions. Christy, take it away.
Hi, I'm Christy Morey. I'm one of the world-building leads on the team,
and I've been here since 2017. I worked on zones such as Stormsong, Maldraxxus,
Theldrazus, including the city of Valdrakhan and many more.
Currently, I'm more hands off providing career guidance
and feedback to my awesome team.
I don't think this is about classic.
We'll talk about you, Vic.
Hey, everybody.
I'm Victor Cortes, I'm the associate world-building
director on World of Warcraft.
I joined the engineering legion, getting my start
on Stormhine, Suramar, and Suramar City.
Also had the pleasure of working
on Tearguard Sound and the pirate dungeon
freehold, which we debuted here at Luzon on our demo
stations that are now live with World of Warcraft
also contribute to Revendreth, Ardenweald,
and the new beam kingdom of Oshka head.
What a journey we've had for a long while.
Let's go ahead and meet our panelists.
Jesterie, tell the people who you are.
Hey everybody, I'm Jesterie.
I'm a senior two world builder
on the World of Warcraft team over the last decade.
You know, he's serious because he's not losing an apple.
Nazjatar and Azure span.
My latest efforts, I was in charge
of the world building efforts
for the microprocessor.
But for everyone, it's in 1.5 hours.
And I want to show you a little bit about that process today.
All right, thanks, Jesterie.
We'll check back in with you in just a little bit.
Up next, we have Esther.
Hello, I'm Esther Love.
I'm a senior world artist, and I've been here for four years.
And during that time, I've worked on the Emerald Dreams
from Dragonflight, Zera Lett Caverns, The Ringing Deeps,
and most recently, Ever Song Woods.
I was lucky to be the zone point for that area,
so I am excited to share with you today
a little bit of how we remade that zone for midnight.
I'm sure folks can't wait to hear about that Esther.
Can you believe seven years ago Esther was actually
in the audience asking questions at this panel
and now she's up here on stage.
BlizzCon has such a magical place.
Speaking of people who work magic,
Jeff tell us about yourself.
Hi, I'm Jeff Miller.
I've been on the cloud team for four years now.
I've been a world design point on Zoned Isle of Dorn.
The two housing neighborhoods,
Razor Wind Shores and Founders Point,
as well as Coiled Isle in our recent patch, 12.1,
the curse of Uwatec.
Yeah?
Give it up for all our panelists folks.
Now we are eager to dive right in,
but first a little bit more about the world-building team.
We're split up into two disciplines.
We have world design and world art.
And while the majority of our work
is shared with both disciplines,
they each have their own specialties.
World design is really focused on the gameplay space,
the size, spatial relationships,
how the players move in and between points.
This is like two different games for the same thing.
And our world artists are more focused on composition
and really beautifying those areas.
They're building all those little detailed looks
and crannies that you're really drawn into explore.
So let's kick things off with some live demos.
I'm so glad you said kick off, Christy.
That's actually the first step of development
in our pre-production phase,
which is all focused on gaining early cross-discipline
alignment for the vision of a space.
Jester, can you tell us a bit about that in Mindaite
and my son, Gavin Stungeon?
Yeah, thanks, Vic.
So the first thing that we do
start off with the narrative. What you see here is the first draft of our 2D map. The
narrative in this particular dungeon is that the vile branch trolls are capturing the wither
bark trolls, taking them down in their subterranean village that lives just in the Zulamon, and
that's what they deserve here with this light green. It also represents the highest point
in elevation. As you can see here, that there's a lighter gray, and that represents
where you go into the cave section and start heading your way down.
The last one there, represents the deepest part and where they bring the holes to Raktul.
This very dark area represents non-passable areas, whether it's mountains or chasms, in
this case it's chasms.
Couldn't it just do this with AI?
You fall into that, your player's dead, so it's bad news.
And then this last light, this lime green represents acid pools, although it never
really made it into the dungeon was just a pitch like this will divide this
space up a little bit so yeah the first draft is done I'll wait and see what
their next example is with all the disciplines and then we look at this
it's just retail I'm not gonna really look at it this is what came from that
as you can see that we went away from the linear design I'll let them get the
first example look at this that allowed us to do is foreshadow in some
cases when you defeat boss one you get a really cool look at the final
thrown it's really nice leads you up and it makes you want to go down for 15 is
the next these other things marked on here boss one two and three ultimately we
ended up moving boss two down here and then finally you'll see some just notes
where we portal in all the other sorry caverns one more thing I want to mention
is these squares here yeah I've never represented in our while at it in our
editor while at it the MD scale let me know the scale right off the bat we
We have a good idea.
We'll just open it up.
So at the end of this meeting,
hey, we're all happy with this map.
Can't wait for Thursday.
Yeah, make sure.
Our editor.
So what I have here is a tool called our copy and paste tool.
And I'm going to lay this thing down right here.
Yeah, I actually I think this is just like retail tech stuff. I'm going to wait a little bit more, but there we go. And then if I show you the grid, I'm just kind of waiting to see that aligns up perfectly. So what we talked about with that scale, it's right on. All right, so it's in. Now what we're ready to do seems like it. Yeah, that's not super version that I talked about.
I'm opening up our terrain tool and I'm going to grab a hill brush and what that does is
it aggressively moves up terrain so we know we want this to be the highest section.
You can do that in Valheim.
I'm going to go ahead and move that up and this is our plateau tool.
It doesn't cost stamina.
I'm going to grab the point of the cursor and pull all the terrain up to that first
click spot.
So I'll do that there.
It's interesting for the right people.
Yeah it is.
I'm not the right people though.
Sorry.
Again, this is just complex, like technical stuff that I don't really think is like super exciting to watch.
So there's other stuff that I'd rather go over and talk about rather than just looking at this right now.
So, yeah, that's really about it. I mean, like that's, that's a paint shop demo. Yeah, yeah, I get it.
And do you think forever we'll need to implement a content voting system like OSRS?
I mean, I don't know. I mean, there's like a lot of positives and negatives.
Yeah, I mean, there are, there's a lot of positives and negatives and I don't know really how,
I don't know how it's going to turn out, right? I don't know. It really kind of depends. This is
pretty much boring, yes, to be honest. I know, I know, I know. We're going to go through everything
else too. So don't worry about it guys, because there is going to be one more panel that just
hasn't quite happened yet. That's all. So yeah, let's see here. The Wild community is so toxic
compared to LSRS for that? Well, I mean, I don't know about that. I think it really just kind of
depends. But yeah, in general, I think that's the case. Anyway, let me scroll up and look at
see if there's anything else that's worth looking at here. But otherwise, I want to look at some
of the stuff on Twitter and everything that people are saying. This and all the people are
not racing the six. Oh, this is where we're going top. I don't know how to post, right?
Wrong ones. Okay. And yeah, I already saw that minimal effort. Blizzard going to make
something that fits the game much better. Yeah, I think that would make that would look way
way better. True, uh, different orc elves, right? This is all I could think about and
I had to make this. Dude. Is it really that bad? Is it really this bad? God damn. But
yes it is. People are just not having it. They hate them. They hate the Skyborne.
They do. Okay, a little bit. Yeah, I guess so. Okay, Skyborne feedback thread. How
How would you have felt if this was the news instead, ogres and high elves?
I would have liked that more.
I'd rather see a $30 for an optional race than $30 for the actual game.
Uh, yeah, I think everybody would agree with that.
They'll me no servers.
I think this is...
What do people think about this?
Um, name reservations going to be chaos.
What would be the one guy that make his troll shaman name Fex?
Last name.
What is this here?
Will hardcore be its own layer though?
Yeah.
isn't it crazy that we were reading hate threads hate threads about me from fucking seven years
ago eight years ago some things never change don't even mention that creeps name thanks
for reminding me about that piece of shit roach that still exists he's too busy pandering
to alt-right neat incels. Don't worry, okay? I'll make sure to take some time out of my
busy day of hating women and minorities to make time to ruin your video game, okay? So
don't worry. I'll be able to manage and get things together. So it's okay, guys. Don't
worry about it. I was playing a lot of 4 years. I know. He will quit fast. I will.
Once I finish all the content, of course, absolutely, please God, so we can play without
them.
They learned a lesson.
They are, dude, they're still thinking about me.
They are.
They're still thinking about me.
Isn't that nice?
And Invite to Asmone Layer, it's really crazy, isn't it?
But anyway, let me look at the other stuff, too, about this.
Retail players have a seat.
Oh, my God.
Okay.
Yeah, the reddit, soyjackdemographic.
I mean, a lot of them are pretty divided about this, right?
I mean, I think that's what makes sense.
NMP suddenly banned longtime streaming partner
and friend Mr. Arthur from Twitch
and Discord without explanation.
And he unfollowed him.
Oh God.
I, look guys.
Trauma!
Oh!
I, I mean, I don't think,
Have I ever done that to somebody before?
Yeah, my ex-
friend.
We actually got in a big argument.
And yeah, okay, so that did happen.
Um, okay, besides that,
when else did I do that?
I feel like that was the only time that I ever done that.
Yeah, Hasan too?
No, Hasan, see, my mods banned Hasan.
I didn't even ban him.
I don't know how my mods even banned him
because Hasan was a mod in my chat for like five years.
So I think he might still have mod.
I don't even know if he does or not.
Now I know he has like VIP or something.
So like, I'm not, yeah, I wasn't even sure how that happened.
And yeah, it was something else.
I think it was because he was like looking into,
because well, we had, so this is why,
we had an agreement that we would give each other mod
and each other's chats.
So we could check the logs for people for the ban appeals.
That was the reason, right?
And I thought this was funny,
but somehow like that got changed or something happened.
There was a breakdown there.
It was really funny.
So, yeah, it's reasonable.
Yeah, it's crazy war.
Hey, it is what it is, right?
Pretty sure super mods can, I guess.
He's not banned, he's VIP.
Okay.
And anyway, yeah, I saw this by the way.
This was not good.
I saw people talking about, what's his name?
Jacksepticeye.
People are pretty negative about him.
And I can look at this just for a little bit
before we wait for the next, what do you call it?
Wait for the next one.
Let's see here.
So, people are mad because he said,
I haven't seen the clip, I just talked about it.
A four to take a bite out of moldy food.
Hey, what's up?
Yeah, what's up?
You look hungry.
You look like Charlie Kirk.
You wanna get Kurt?
A four to take a bite.
So this is my opinion.
People are really mad about this
and they don't like him for this.
This is my opinion, right?
And I replied to a comment like this.
What the fuck?
So basically I
Went and I said
So then people are saying like well
I'm saddened to find out that someone I admired is this heartless and evil turning out to be a violent leftist
The mask accidentally slipped off and at this point I should have expected it
The dude makes content for children and is helping spread this hateful rhetoric
Here's the problem that I have with people like Jacksepticeye saying stuff like this, right?
I don't really have a problem with him saying it. I have a problem with the double standard
So, and I'll just read what I said.
No one has a problem with jokes about Charlie Kirk.
What they have a problem with is that many of the people that are making them aren't
joking.
What's the probability that Jack would express distaste at a joke about George Floyd?
100%.
The double standard is the problem.
This is the big issue that I think a lot of people have with like these people,
these guys.
Like is that, like if you're gonna go, especially since he got mad for people making jokes
about after his dad passed, I mean I can understand that like, I mean one
of them is like personal and the other one isn't let me watch this you showed
support or any of you who sent me messages or anybody who is sending any
sorts of thoughts or love my way and my family's way during this time I really
appreciate it thank you yeah it was very very sweet and kind of you to do to
any of you who posted memes about it and posted negative stuff yeah about it
You're absolute scum and I fucking hate you. Yeah, because you made something that was hard so much harder to go through
And you it's just it again like I mean, yeah, oh, right and
Again, you like you yeah, it's like so then what are you doing doing this?
Like I have no problem with people that like dark humor and they want to use dark humor like I make Charlie Kirk jokes
I make George Floyd jokes. I make all kinds of like I will make jokes about anything, right?
But
The problem that I have with these people is that a lot of them are totally okay
Making edgy jokes about one thing but not other things. I think that with dark humor and edgy humor all of it's okay
Or none of it's okay. So you can't have dark humor and and the problem is it also like a lot of the people that say stuff like this
like they're not joking around, right? So like what's the difference between this?
Got sass in the public? Do you want to be correct? Do you want to see your public sass in him? I mean
again, he's just talking to a video game character. It's not like it's really a big deal. But like
the point is that it's the normalization of rhetoric like this. And it's people that talk
like this while at the same time, there's a huge contingency of people in the internet
that think that it's okay to be violent to people that don't share your political views.
That's, I think, the really scary thing for a lot of people is that they see somebody making
comments like this and they're thinking to themselves, well, what the fuck? I mean,
people think this is kind of what I think happens, right? Is it they think, well, I agree
with Charlie Kirk on X, Y, or Z thing. Do they want to kill me too? And that makes people,
rightfully, I think, very unsettled, that makes them very uncomfortable to be watching
a creator who is making light out of something that a lot of people actually believe in.
So that's really what the issue is more than anything.
And I think that fundamentally, if Jacksepticeye was the kind of guy that would make jokes
about George Floyd, he would make jokes about BLM, he'd make jokes about, you know,
ice shooting people, or like, you know, anything else, I think it'd be fine for
you to make jokes about Charlie Kirk. But the problem is that they view their own tragedies
as like a sacred thing that can never be made fun of, but then they make fun of other people
being killed, right? And I think that's ridiculous. Where are those jokes? Yeah, where are those,
right? He's the lefty, so he won't joke about that? Well, that's the problem. That's
what makes it poor taste. That's what makes it problematic. Person responds, they said,
I totally agree on that. I have no problem with people criticizing Jack in general.
I'm calling out Cheeby Reviews specifically.
I don't care about this.
Let me see here.
There's also another layer of hypocrisy
when Jack's father passed.
He called the people who named on his passing absolute scum.
Yeah, I mean, I do think that,
I think this is absolutely like weasel loser behavior.
And if you wanna be like this wholesome,
chungus YouTuber, you can't go around
and make these comments when you know
that a lot of people agree with them.
That, I think that's the problem
that you can't have your cake and eat it too. If you want to be an edgy asshole, then I think
great, welcome to the team. But whenever you try to play both sides, I think that's what's
really unsettling and cringe. So yeah, I think he's an absolute loser for doing this. And
yeah, I'll be waiting for the George Floyd and BLM jokes. And if we don't get them,
I think that, you know, I think maybe there's a reason why. It's disappointing
to say really like them yeah I mean it's just it's very cringe it's total loser behavior
it's the same dude let me see it
feel defending jack are literally just long-term fans voluntarily brainwashing themselves
well they're people that also don't like charlie kirk and they want to kill people
that they disagree with politically right this is the same guy i don't think they're
I'm never going to remake Resident 5 because of the obvious racial conflict that's happening in that game,
and I think it would be completely stupid.
The game is not aged well in terms of who you're fighting.
What a loser.
So they would have to just fundamentally change what the game is about.
Obviously it's very unfortunate to see someone like Jacksepticeye fall for these...
What a loser.
You're going to go around and say that Resident Evil 5 can't be remade,
But you're gonna be okay making jokes about a random guy that got killed like I don't really get this like and and this is the kind of
Stuff like I think that we should call this out. I do I think this absolutely a hundred percent
Needs to get called out. Would it be okay? The guy was nothing of a kind. I mean again like it's priorities
Yeah, where's the priorities here? It's not okay to remake this video game
But you can make jokes about people that are gonna get killed like what's going on here, right?
And I'm getting people calling it out. Yeah, I mean again
I think that people absolutely like I've said this before because a lot of a lot of
Conservatives and people that don't have these super lefty viewpoints don't do this a lot when somebody acts this way
We absolutely should chimp out. We a hundred percent should chimp out. We should get mad
We should complain. We should try to cause social media negativity, you know attack sponsors everything because that's what they do
That's what they do and they do it because it works and
Ultimately putting pressure on people that are openly creating this matter like how like what's the world?
What do you mean resident evil didn't age well?
Like why because it's in Africa
You can't shoot people in Africa
But because you think they're blacks or you're shooting them and they're like, you know
It's like black zombies and you're killing black people. They're zombies like it's just cringe and weird
It's like, nobody's thinking about that. Who's thinking about that?
So, yeah, it's just embarrassing, man. That's the guy that's in charge of the Bloodborne movie.
I don't know about being in charge, but I know he's involved.
And it is unsettling to see people like this that are in these positions.
It's very unsettling to see this. A racist would think that.
I think that Jack isn't a racist. I don't think he's a racist or anything.
I think that he is just a lefty that plays to his audience
He sees and thinks that it's okay to talk like this and then he goes and doesn't again
Until I hear the George Floyd jokes. I'm not going to be laughing
That's the way I see it I
Don't like this one-sided. I don't like this one-sided
Dark humor and the problem is because whenever these people say this stuff, they're not laughing
What's his view on what's happening with the migrant problem?
I have no idea about his politics on anything.
I don't really.
I think that if you're a YouTube creator, like this is my advice, don't get involved in giving
your opinion on politics.
Like unless you want to make that your content, don't get involved giving your two cents,
pitching in and then telling people what you think.
no reason to do that. Are the October 7th jokes too much though? Well it's okay, I mean
if Gaza jokes are too much then October 7th jokes are too much. Right? Like if you say
like okay well you know I'm gonna make a Lego set of God like oh I just bought a Lego set
of Gaza that already came assembled and the pieces are all apart. Like if that
joke upsets you then no I don't want to hear your joke about Jews being killed
October 7th. You either have to laugh at both of them or neither of them, or at least accept both of
them or neither of them. The same joke was 9-11, the Columbia, whatever space shuttle, it's super
common joke. Off the dome. Yeah, yeah, people have made that joke about multiple different, like,
tragedies, right? So did you come up with that? No, I did not. I just read it one day on the
internet. So yeah. I'm your agent at Black. I had such hope growing up, climaxing in a
a black man making it to the highest position in the world very sad that we've regressed. I had such
high hopes for us transcending this bullshit. I think that we have transcended it honestly.
I think that the moment that you go outside and you go to like a card shop or you go to a
Walmart or you go to a restaurant, I think that really you have a bunch of really normal guys
that everybody gets along and there's no problems. It's just a handful of weirdos on
the internet that don't know how to act and behave in the right way that are trying
to make rules for everybody else on what the acceptable social behavior is. Like the reality
is that, yeah, these losers, there's a lot of these losers, but they're also really like,
it's interesting because like in real life, you don't really see this type of discourse and
this discord. You really see this on the internet. And like obviously it manifests in real life
in some cases, but overwhelmingly it doesn't. But I think that you're right. I mean, like,
I remember Obama got elected, Tropical Thunder was the biggest movie, we had just got done
watching Rush Hour. Racism was pretty much over in the United States. And I don't mean this
by like, I don't want to invalidate some of these bad experiences that were like, you know,
it's like nobody experienced racism after that. But culturally, it felt like we were past that.
And I think that really what happened is that there were a lot of people whose jobs were
were built around racism and they started to see their job decline and then they got
upset about that. Systematic racism was done? Yeah, I mean, I'd say definitely by 2008 it
was. Racism will never be over. Well, culture, like a culture that's defined by racism can
be. And I feel like our culture that was defined by racism was kind of was definitely
over by them. Right? I mean, other than like, oh, only black people can say the
inward and like a few like little stupid nuances to our society. Other than that, I felt like
everything was pretty much fine. You were a kid, but the nineties, we peaked in race.
Peel magazine did a poll of who plays Jesus in a movie. Denzel had like 40, 80% of the
vote nationwide. Yeah. And decent people usually don't work so hard to make you believe
they're good. I think that's true too. But we got a survey of black Americans in
the early nineties. 98% of them says racism was not a problem in their lives. Yeah,
uh... i've seen a lot of videos of that and uh... you know again i'll go through
this and i'll look at it in in a minute right
but uh... yeah anyway i'll
i i i you that's that's generally the way i feel about this right is that
you know making jokes we do have an excuse about charlie kerr because he's a
good christian man door problem george forks okay
uh... let's not read that
and uh... here's the thing i don't care for you charlie kerr so brain
being murderers just wrong
i think that making jokes about something is fine but again it's the
problem these people are laughing
You're obviously talking about systemic and culturally approved racism, not individuals.
Yeah.
Like you're always going to have racist people.
Like I'll be honest.
And this is something like this might sound cringe to people that are racist, but anybody
that knows this knows it's true.
I experienced racism whenever I was in school.
I was a minority in my school.
Like my school was maybe 10 to 15%, maybe 20% at most white.
Overwhelmingly, my school was a bunch of Mexicans.
It was Mexicans and black people.
So like people would refer to me as white boy all the time, like it was very common.
So I would be treated that way and spoken to that way and it was like, it wasn't.
And by the way, these are my friends telling me this, right?
This is my friend who's been over at my house that like has spent like, you know, something
to say in bed together, right?
So it's not, it's not like it was in a derogatory way.
It's just that that's the way that we did things, right?
Sorry, bro.
No, there's no reason to be sorry.
If I anything, I trade almost anything to go back to those times that were amazing.
I was so happy.
And so yeah, we were all in the same halo guild together
and everything.
Yeah, we would all, we would play halo together all night
and then we'd fall asleep at bed.
We would.
And you know, again, people would say,
I'm gonna sleep on the floor and they sleep on the floor.
It's uncomfortable.
All right, bro, move over.
I'm gonna sleep on the bed.
And it's just the way it is.
All right?
So that's it.
And anyway, a bunch of gays.
Yeah, we had a great time.
So you know, that's really how I see
all this other stuff, right?
Same bad end, same guild, well clan, clan at that time, okay?
So yeah, and kiss the homies goodnight.
Yeah, and so like, I mean, I would never say
that I experienced like actual like real like race
discrimination, no, of course not.
But like, I mean, people referred to me
and said negative things about me because of my race.
Yeah, sure.
I mean, I think that's what happens like in any,
like if you go to a working class high school
in the South, you're gonna have people say
negative things about your race.
It doesn't matter, like, I mean, Carmelo Anthony
said worse things about black people than I think I've ever had. I've said, and he was black.
Like his own tweets, he's talking about like, well, I can't even repeat it. I can't even repeat it.
That's the way that it is, man. And a lot of people, and this is the problem, is that
this is why I've always thought that the main problem is people on the internet
don't understand the way that normal people act. Why is that? It's because they were losers
and they didn't have any friends growing up. And because of that, they want to invent rules
that are not really, that don't understand the way that people act to each other. Like they,
they're trying to like reinvent the wheel because they don't know what the wheel actually looks
like. They don't, they never experienced the wheel. Most black people don't experience racial
discrimination. They can't do it. Yeah. I mean, I hope not, right? I mean, nobody should
face racial discrimination, right? It doesn't matter whether you're white, black, like whether
you're being denied for a job because you're black, or you're being excluded because of a DEI program.
I think both of these are bad and neither of them should happen. I think if you're a citizen and
you know, you apply for a job, it doesn't matter man or woman, white or black, you know, even
an Indian, anybody, Jew, oh no, I think everybody should get the same chance. I think that's
That's what most normal people think, but like, almost doesn't like everybody think this,
like who doesn't think this?
Right?
It's crazy.
So it's just simple humanity.
And I guess like maybe women probably shouldn't apply to be like a police officer, right?
Or like a fireman.
But otherwise I think that, you know, there's some common sense ones.
But other than that, I think it's totally fine.
Racists don't, don't think this.
I mean, yeah, that's true, but that's why they want to reinvent rules, right?
I think that's the reason why.
And what is this?
Is somebody like me this?
Look, in our generation and younger, 9-11 has been memed into oblivion, right?
Let's be real.
That's like, there's a generational breakdown here where like a lot of people, it's almost
like the adults, not the adults, but the elderly are trying to make everyone talk about
this in the way that they want to.
It's obviously not going to happen for like the last two decades pretty much.
from Seth MacFarlane and Family Guy to numerous other cultural moments, people have talked
about it.
People have talked about it in not so serious ways.
So this forcible reverence coming from institutions on its 25th anniversary is probably not going
to take hold amongst the masses.
There are people still burning alive in these towers, and people were already making jokes.
But having said that, the cultural attitudes about 9-11 being treated with respect and
dignity I think is calcified in the collective consciousness of Americans, right?
This amazing had a good take on this is that pretending it's only kids is so funny family guy did this joke about how Americans don't know who attacked on 9 11
Most of because of American propaganda obfuscating it like 15 years ago. Oh, sir. Sit down who's saying did this no Iraqi army
No, some guys from Iraq. No that one lady who visited Iraq that one time. No Peter Iraq had nothing to do with this
It was a bunch of Saudi Arabians Lebanese and Egyptians. So you're saying we need to invade Iran. Yeah
so
That ain't really well.
In some respects I think like not treating 9-11 as this singular moment that is worthy
of the utmost reverence and respect is the American tradition.
So the difference is that it's the American tradition but we've invited a bunch of people
into the country that aren't Americans, that aren't treating it with reverence because
they agree with it, not because they're trying to tell a joke.
And that's the big problem that the difference is, is that I think that nowadays the reason
why people are a little bit more defensive of the people that are making fun of 9-11
is because the people that are making fun of 9-11 also try to draw ways of minimizing
the negative impact it had.
Seth McFarlane is probably not going around and saying that 9-11 was good. He's not supporting
terrorist organizations. He's not framing photographs of 9-11 and the towers falling behind him
when he's doing podcasts. This isn't what's happening. So I think that the difference
between these two things are totally different. I agree with this a little bit. I'm totally on
board. Treat 9-11 with respect. I just think that we should do the same for Pearl Harbor,
which was also really bad. This is my opinion. I think that it's totally different. It's
It's kind of like, you know what this is kind of like?
It's kind of like whenever you have,
and fucking George Carlin talked about this
like 50 years ago, he said it's like,
why is it okay for a white person to say the N,
or a black person to say the N word, but not a white person?
And he said basically that like,
there's an implicit expectation
that the black person isn't racist against themselves,
but there's the possibility that the white person is.
So, that's the reason why people are more okay with it.
And Seth was given a wrong time for his departure,
he was supposed to be on a plane in 9-11.
Well, that's, I mean, lucky guy, right?
So, and, yeah, I didn't even know that, I had no idea,
I'm just, yeah, what the fuck, that's crazy.
Hit or met LTG?
I mean, again, guys, here's my point, right?
Is that a lot of these people,
it's funny to have people that are making jokes
and laughing when it's an in-culture thing,
But when you have people that are from foreign cultures
that actually have some sense of solidarity
with the people that support the attacks of 9-11,
if not supporting them themselves,
the jokes hit a lot differently
when people know that the joke isn't actually a joke.
It's like very different than like, for example,
like if a grand dragon of the KKK
tells a joke about black people or something,
that's gonna be a very different context
than if Dave Chappelle tells the same joke, right?
And I think that it's the intent and the context.
And I think that people see through the intent
and the context from a lot of these non-Americans
that are actually supporters of it.
And I think that's the main issue more than anything else.
Imagine, boys are making jokes
about how they destroyed their company
or refused to listen to their fans,
only to inevitably listen to their fans.
Yeah, true.
Jokes are fine, so long as you insult everyone.
Yeah, I think that's true.
I do.
And it's relevance because a lot of people are alive
and people got hit when the towers ran out.
Pearl Harbor was more relevant back then
because people would experience it.
Well, I don't really think that's true.
I think that really, like, I mean, the Holocaust
like is still kind of like a forbidden topic
that people aren't really supposed to make jokes about.
And like, even I don't make Holocaust jokes on stream,
right?
And, you know, again, like there's a,
you know, I was about to make one.
but let's just let's not
and uh... anyway cultures can exist in the west yeah yeah i guess so
and uh... in this case what is this what matters is the messenger not the
message
yeah i think the messenger absolutely changes the message
and i think it's also the intent behind the message which is the problem
more than anything else
and uh... we choose make all cost of the time all customers make them all the
time yeah but it's okay for you to make them because people assume that you're
not actually supporting the Holocaust because you're a jewel
So, like, that's the whole point that I'm making, right?
Is that it's generally culturally accepted
for people to make jokes about groups that they are a part of
because there's an implicit understanding
that they probably don't hold a self-bias against themselves.
Does that make more sense?
By the way, about the Wolverine drama,
I found this video from Insomniac.
Let me see this.
It's a video from Insomniac.
Those are the people that made Wolverine.
What the hell is this?
View Insomniac Games' video statement on current US immigration policy from nine years... wait, what?
What the fuck?
These are the people making Wolverine?
We at Insomniac Games stand united in strongly opposing President Trump's immigration ban.
There's no question that these orders will harm us as a company and many of our team members.
So, we ask, is this the American way?
Is discriminating based on religious faith or national origin American?
Yeah.
Absolutely not.
Yeah, actually pretty much yes.
This is a horrible, discriminatory fact that we and many others across the nation believe
is patently unconstitutional.
This is what we have.
We have been, we are, and we will always be a nation of immigrants.
If you agree with us, please do something about it.
or email your congressperson expressing your opposition to this executive order.
Furthermore, there are many organizations across the country who are creating opposition
campaigns you can support.
So join us in being a force for good and make your voice heard.
Thank you very much.
Man, and they're making Wolverine and it comes out in two days.
And you know what really says confidence?
250 mil no it's minus 300 mil so you know it really says confidence no comments
and you can't even like or dislike the video like you're not able to do
anything so this is the problem is like again these people they're so awful
they are they're so annoying they're so awful I don't even know what to say and
how to turn game and by the way this is the reason why everybody screams
woke, DEI, and they're hyper sensitive about politics and video games now. It's
because these weird obnoxious performative losers have used their
platforms as developers. This was from set this is from nine years ago 2017. So
how is it that like again never ever ever let people tell you that like oh
well this isn't what we were doing and oh you shouldn't care about this stuff.
No, you started this. Nobody asked you to start making a bunch of comments about fucking
Immigration or something like it's just fucking weird. So they deserve to fail 100% get out of the video game industry
Yeah, it's just nuts man. They've conquered our video games to spread their lame-ass messaging. They are I
Will say this again. I've said it before
Chuds are the indigenous people of the video game community
Okay, we are the indigenous species of the internet, okay?
It's not these like weird art-hose, it's not social justice warriors, it's not activists,
it's chuds, okay?
It's a bunch of chuds.
And if you disagree with me, go look at the amount of people, go look at this studio
that made, I don't know, Age of Empires 2, right?
Or any of these other games.
all chuds so that's it chuds without borders yes absolutely chuds without borders gaming devs
diversity is always white women you've noticed yeah because it's white women white women are the
single biggest beneficiary of dei measures like there's a lot of black guys that are like in support
of it and i get it right i mean you want to help yourself but like never forget the fact that
you're getting you you're getting finessed by a woman too right i mean it's it's basically the
Maybe the only people that are negatively affected by it really are white men.
So the current colonizers, yeah, we're being colonized.
So this is the reason why these people have totally poisoned the well and they've totally
radicalized people against them because you didn't have to make a statement on this.
Like you didn't have to use the company platform to make a statement about why Donald
Trump made the wrong decision, but you choose to do that.
And if you make the choice to do that, you have to live with the consequences that when
you make your art political and you step into the political realm, people are going to see
what you do and say through the lens of your politics.
And they're going to grade things off of that context.
I saw a lot of people, even with the Skyborne race, thinking that it's like LGBTQ coded.
And people make these statements and why is that?
It's because Blizzard makes the statements.
So if you don't want people to constantly call things out for being DEI and woke, then
stop trying to use your games and your media as a way to subtly try to push a social message.
Or in this case, not so subtly try to push a social message.
I think it's just exhausting.
It's exhausting for an average person to have to listen to and deal with.
Notice who's in the front row and everybody else is in the back.
I mean, it's, I don't know.
But yeah, they still got body types.
Yeah.
type one and two like what do you mean male and female like what do you like who is this for it's
for it's like obviously like some kind of like weird non-binary trans thing like it's really cringe
and it's very weird to see people do that so again the video is not a single black person though
I don't love it. Does it?
Wow
You know what I always think is really funny is that whenever you see like, you know, this is like
Like there's like a there's like a fucking Gears of War 3 clan
It's like called the cool kids club with K's right and it's like the guild meetup and it's like
super diverse
Like two black guys three white guys and Asian two Arabs like five Mexicans
Like really that that's what it is and it's true
It's always so funny for me to see that in the corner. I'm not that's that's obvious
It's that's a bald white guy, right? And yeah, just really, really embarrassing
embarrassing performative behavior, right? And again the Wolverine came
Oh god
This is all wait. I bet this is what Sony wanted. I bet when Sony was thinking let's make a Wolverine game
That's exactly what they were worried about
Wolverine gay. Oh
Oh my god.
Yeah, I can't believe it. Yeah, exactly. Overrina is already dropping on steam charts. Is it really? I don't even know about that.
I've seen some of this stuff talking about this. This is gonna be...
This is... It's just... That's just another fat woman hate video. Don't worry. We'll get to that.
And so, let's see here.
And let's fire this base developer and hold on to the gay game. Yeah, sure.
And yeah, same dude said Resident Evil 5 is racist. Oh, that's the one I was talking about earlier too.
Like, yeah, it's just fucking ridiculous, and let me go back and pull these up.
Oh, I thought this was interesting.
Let me, I'll look at that in just a second.
And where the fuck did this go?
What was I even, what was I going to show you guys?
Oh, the Wolverine thing.
That's right.
Sorry, I got confused.
Wolverine mid, Wolve mid.
Damn. Damn.
That's, that's a stupid name.
That's a stupid ass name.
Why is he laughing like this?
Why are you doing this?
That is pretty bad.
Okay, that's pretty bad.
Oh my God!
Amen!
Neph'o played in your face, man. That's pretty strange.
They played in your face. What the fuck was that, man?
Holy shit, Jesus Christ, man.
That's a race, where did 300 million go?
Where did it go?
It couldn't have went into the game, man.
It couldn't have.
Oh my God, Ed.
Is this just pathetic?
It's just, like, look at it.
It's just embarrassing, man.
Who moves like that?
Wolf mid, bro, like, what was that game, white?
Dude.
What was that gameplay?
Dude, I can't wait for the 15th man.
I'm so excited to play this game.
Every single video makes me more excited.
I think, dude, the day this comes out,
like I might, so I've been back and forth
about starting earlier.
I really have been.
And if I wake up early,
I might even log on early to do this.
I might, we eating good?
You gonna play Dawn Walker?
He's not controlling it, but wait a minute.
He's not controlling it?
W-wait a second, so you're doing all this?
Oh!
Hahahaha!
There's no way!
Hahahaha!
There's no- wait, it auto-plays?
Hahahaha!
Wait, I didn't know that!
Hahahaha!
They mixtaped it?
Oh, we have a name for this now!
Is that right?
Hahahaha!
Oh my God!
The people play to your face, man. That shit is crazy. $300 million. They play to y'all.
Can you imagine being so mad, man? Dude, I would be so fucking mad. Holy shit.
Quick time for water. Dude, I used to love the quick time events that, like, if you didn't do it,
like, it was like it would just cut Leon in half. Oh, you messed the quick time event up in
Resident Evil 4. Okay, Leon gets cut in half and murdered and the game is over because he's dead.
This ain't right. What a threat of me. Yeah, yeah, I've seen some kind of
Srenoy placing murder. It couldn't have waited for the game, man. It couldn't have. Oh, dude.
Like that is so sad. What a joke. And then also, like, so this is the other really,
really weird thing is that like Wolverine apparently, I don't know if I can pull this
up and show you, but like there's a reason why it was trending.
There's a reason why Wolverine Gay was trending.
So there is this whole thing.
I think that somebody linked it.
Let me pull this up here and see if I can copy paste it over and where is it?
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
We've got it.
Give me a second.
This is so fucking stupid.
I'll look at it again in the context.
So Insomniac's narrative director says Wolverine feels yearning for Sabertooth and their rival
three has room for love.
Logan feels that yearning that he gets scared and easily pulls away.
Sabertooth feels that yearning and it makes him hurt and want to lash out more outward.
Hate and love are so hand in hand.
No they're not.
Who wrote this?
I think whichever woman wrote this.
There needs to be like, we need to figure out who made this statement.
Wait, Walt.
Walt, wait, Walt.
Hate and love goes so hand in hand.
How many restraining orders do you have against you, Walt?
Like, no they don't.
No, wait, no they don't.
Wait, what do you mean?
That's, yeah, what the, this is, yeah.
Just like the dude, if your boyfriend ever says to you and you're a lady, if he ever
says hate and love go hand in hand, you're dead.
You're dead.
He's going to kill you.
That's what's going to happen.
He's going to kill you.
And yeah, it's over.
It's over.
It's going to happen.
Only toxic people say that.
Yeah, it's over.
Yeah, it's not Walter Williams, it's Walter White.
Yeah, they're gay and brothers, so it's incest.
Okay, so this is the, so,
like this is the same as with anything else, right?
Going back to QTE, did you ever see the heavy rain one?
No, I didn't see this.
What is this?
Let me pull it up and find it.
I haven't seen this.
here's la corda yeah lieutenant Carter Blake I'd like to ask you some questions
what's this oh shit don't just stand there it's gonna get away
What?
Stop that guy!
Hey, man, watch out!
Hey!
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Why would he do that?
Why?
Why'd he tackle it?
This is such a good one.
Hey, get in there!
Okay, what?
Go to the count. Yeah, there you go.
Yeah, there you go.
Whoa!
Whoa!
Oh my god!
What the fuck is happening?
This is a pretty stupid shit!
Look at this!
Oh my god!
Wow!
Yeah, this shit used to be funny!
What is he doing?
Do you know what I'm doing?
Oh my...
Oh man, I never played this. I don't even know what this is.
It's like an early Slopstick. Yeah, it's a three Charlie Chapman, so that got ya.
Oh my God, this is...
Oh no, he's going over the lobsters.
Oh my God.
Oh, just chickens. Oh, chickens.
I hate these birds.
That was way funnier than...
See dual barrel roll.
Oh, this had to be from ten years ago.
Game of the year, everybody.
Game of the year.
Wow.
I might play that.
That looks really fucking funny.
Jesus, that was good.
God damn.
And, wow.
And the game's awesome.
Yeah, that's so fucking funny to me.
Jacksepticeye removed the Charlie Kirk mention
in this video already.
Well, yeah, I mean, you should.
It's just, it's wrong, right?
Is this it?
No, this, yeah.
Shit, don't get mad.
Yeah, yeah.
This is this is it. That's oh, you're linking the video for the viewers. Okay, so, um
Wolverine gay
Wolverine gay now, what do I think about this? I
Think that nobody asked I
Think nobody asked and nobody wanted for them to add in some weird unnecessary
unnecessary gay shit into a Wolverine game. Nobody wanted this. Nobody asked for this.
Nobody wants this. Like, this is something that a weirdo did. Yeah, it's like, Wolverine
gay furry... it is. I never even really thought about this. So, Wolverine is like the twink.
Like, his saber-tooth is like in the game, he's like eight feet tall or something like that.
Like, what is this a woman's romance novel?
Holy shit!
I mean, really?
So, as long as he's been by in the comics, it's weird, bro.
It's weird.
What is the most famous interpretation of the X-Men?
What is the most famous universe of the X-Men?
It's the fucking movies.
It is.
The movies are the biggest thing.
who's magneto
in mckellan serene mckellan is magneto
everybody knows all of the characters and and then i guess yeah you you also had
uh... what was his fucking name
the michael fosbender that played magneto i think he was also really good
to be fair right
and i think the casting for the original x-men was
parking
amazing
it was amazing
but yeah he would jackman is wolverine i mean everybody i mean it
They had, it was so fun, didn't it?
It wasn't like Halle Berry or something like that,
that played fuckin' like Storm.
I think it was Halle Berry, right?
Yeah, it was.
Dude, I remember watching that.
That was crazy.
What a good movie.
So anyway, in that universe,
Wolverine and Sabertooth are brothers.
So you're coming into this game,
you're making a big video game, right?
And you're introducing people to these characters,
and the biggest context that they have
of these characters prior to this
is that they're brothers,
and now they're gonna be gay for each other?
That's just weird, dude.
What's wrong with you?
Terrible take, the definitive X-Men
is the animated series, bro.
Get the fuck out of here.
It's the movies.
Everybody knows the movies.
Everybody is aware of it.
Like, and I know, like for people that are our age,
we also watched the animated series, okay?
We did, but it's the fucking movies, man.
It is, he's right, I don't think so, man.
I really don't.
I think the, like, the X-Men movies
have been going around for like 20 years,
if not 25 years.
Like, when was the first X-Men they made?
And they're still using a lot of the same cast members
of that, like they're still doing that.
That's fucking insane.
That is way longer than the animated series was out.
So, no, I...
What a bunch of bullshit.
Okay, agreed to disagree?
Anyway, well, okay, the second...
Like, one of the most popular.
Alright, it doesn't matter.
Nobody asked for this weird gay shit to be in a fucking Wolverine game.
Please stop putting weird, unnecessary gay shit into video games.
It's making people homophobic.
Nobody probably has an issue with two gay guys.
But we don't want to see it be put into our media.
We don't want to feel uncomfortable that there's sexual tension between two characters that from the perspective of a lot of people that are brothers.
It's weird.
Nobody wants this.
It's uncomfortable to look at.
It's just, it's unnecessary.
What the fuck?
What are you thinking?
What are you thinking doing this?
You want to make Brokeback Mountain go ahead, but don't turn every other fucking movie into it
It's weird man. It's affecting you asking a big zesty. Oh, I'm acting zesty. I don't think so. I think I'm being normal
So yeah, the biggest studs as well. Yeah, and Wolverine is like the biggest most masculine character
You don't want it shoved right in your face. I think that I if I watch if I watch Brokeback Mountain
I want it shoved right in my face if I watch an autobiography about Walt Whitman
I want it shoved right in my face if I watch a movie about
Fuck like or not autobiography obviously, but a biography about him. Let me think other famous gay people
I don't know Philip Seymour Hoffman. I think was gay too. You want it in your face, right?
Yeah, if Freddie Mercury you want it in your face, right? He was bisexual, but yeah, I think he was bisexual
Alan Turing. Yeah, sure Obama. Okay, relax. So
Anyway, that's the way I see it
That's how I see it. That's where I'm at.
And you don't need to do it whenever it's not necessary.
It's just so unnecessary.
Yes, but when they try to hide subliminal messages,
they disrespect the intelligence of the viewers.
Well, and there are ways to
respect the intelligence of the viewers to make a character gay,
but to do it in a tasteful way that's not over.
I think that here's a great example.
is colonel Hans Lanzer, Hans Lanzer of, uh, ungoreous bastards. It was all but confirmed,
basically, that like, I mean, the guy that he wanted to escape to the United States with was
like his lover or something like that. But it was never stated. It was never said it's show,
don't tell. Show, don't tell. Hans Lanzer, yeah, there you go. And was that Django? No, it wasn't
Jango that's Christoph Waltz, but he would that was his that was the second role that he had this is the first role and
Yeah, I peek writing. So that was Django. No, it wasn't you fucking retard. No
Hansel
No, no, you guys are so stupid. No, he played what was his fucking name and Django unchained
It wasn't it certainly wasn't that okay, and anyway. Yeah, you're right. Yeah
Yeah, it was the same actor. Christoph Waltz was a, again, I know about this. Christoph Waltz
was pretty much a German TV and a German, Dr. Schultz, yeah, there you go, the dentist,
was a German TV and German media actor only until Quentin Tarantino almost basically
discovered him and put him in the role of Colonel Hans Lanzer in Inglourious Bastards.
role made him an international superstar. That also is why he continued to be in I think fucking
two other movies from fucking Quentin Tarantino, right? He was in Django Unchained, amazing.
He was also in the, was it the hateful eight, I believe? What was he in that? I think he was
in that, right? Yeah. And so, you know what I have to say? I never actually watched that.
Adam Lanza
No
And so Austrian not German a big difference. Excuse me. Sorry. I I could have gotten that wrong. So
Anyway, he's been loads. Yeah, not me a full eight. Well either way
He wasn't it I remember anyway, so
Why I was even talking about that. Oh, right because like yeah, there was like an implication that this that this character was
gay. There is even like a subtle implication that Gus, from not from my
wow-rids, from Breaking Bad was gay. Like, and it was never really confirmed or
denied, obviously, but it left room for interpretation. And that's the way that
it's subtle. Well, Gus felt gay, right? And I think that this is, that's the way
that an adult that respects your intelligence broaches the subject of a
character that is you know like there's no reason to have like half the characters in Breaking Bad
and the characters in you know Django Unchained or not Django Unchained, Ungor's bastards their
sexuality isn't really even discussed or talked about at all right but it's a way that you can
make a subtle implication without insulting the intelligence of the audience to make a like
to preach to them right I don't think people want to be preached to they don't want to
to be patronized. Does that make sense? In the books, it was never confirmed that
Urgenai that Renly Baratheon was gay either? Yeah, and people complained about that with
the high garden guy the night. They said that like, well, this guy got reduced down to a sexuality
in the movies or the TV show, I mean, and Dumbledore. Yeah, Dumbledore, that was like, that was
even, that was different. Loris Tyrell, yeah, there you go. And because they're hero of
villain journey is more important than her sexual identity. Yeah, and it's like
that's, I think that you can easily imply stuff like that without even saying
this. Why would you even say this? It's just weird and cringe to even talk about.
So yeah, and I think it has people keep their guard up because it just makes
them uncomfortable. Like they're like, what the hell is going on? Because
whenever something has a sexual component to it, it changes the way
people see it. And I think it does make people uncomfortable whenever they
they realize it. It's kind of like whenever, and here's a personal one, right? It's like, have you ever
had like a girl that you liked and then you confessed feelings to her and then she, you know, it changed
the way that your relationship with this girl that you are maybe friendly with or friends with,
it changes that relationship because of the knowledge of that, right? It changes it.
And it doesn't always, it doesn't always happen, right? And there's not like a guarantee,
But in a lot of cases, it can happen.
I think people are more comfortable with it in anime games.
Well, yeah, because it's not real.
There's like a level of escapism to it that isn't really, you know, the same.
I think that's why.
And this is, I just want to double check.
This is the, the forever thing is in like a half hour, right?
It's something like that.
Because that's their big one for, let me double check and pull up the schedule.
I just want to make sure that I don't get ahead of myself and get distracted before we go through this
It's at 315. Okay, cool. So it's in like it's a half hour. It's really soon
Of course and well set up a movie has even a slight gay tone it seals the attention for everything
I think he was right. Yeah, and this is here. Don't shove it down people's roads or was this here a pornographic tone
Yeah, I think that's true
Like I'm very much the kind of guy like you know my favorite movies are Lord of the Rings like one of my favorite
Animais is Freerun
You know Berserk is another one of my favorites and like outside of the Eclipse right and a handful of other scenes like with slon like later on
Like there's very few actual like really overtly sexual innuendo in those shows and I enjoyed that
I like that too with a fist of the North Star and JoJo's Bizarre Adventure like those are my favorite shows and like they are like there's
occasionally there's this sexual innuendo in JoJo, right? Or something like that, right?
But like, it's very few and far between. And it's done in a way that's usually comedic and
tasteful, rather than it just being a gratuitous type of fan service. I'm not against fan service,
but I'm also not for it. I just have no interest in it. Like, it doesn't appeal to me as a viewer.
Fist of the North Star, our first anime as seen as a kid? Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Not actually? Yeah, I mean like, you know, so Trump when I make a viral with this situation on
Ravelling, what is this? I pulled this up, I can find it. I'll look at like maybe one thing
and then we've got to get ready and for the show, he's up to see a unified Ireland,
Wait what? 5.8 million views. Oh my god. What's this?
Irish unification.
Well, I won't cause any trouble, but I will tell you, I'd love to see a beautiful fight.
My friends on both sides, great people. They're Irish people. How can they be bad, right?
I'd love to see it here.
It was a leopard collar bag.
It would be great.
Yeah.
A great feather in everybody's cap.
If that happened, it's going to happen eventually.
Mr. Franklin, you know what?
It's going to happen eventually.
What will happen then?
We'll talk about it then.
If you get the right hat over here to get it moving.
But yeah, I think it would be a fantastic thing.
Now, the UK, while I'm talking to Sandra, I'll be in there.
But I think it would be a great thing.
I mean, how could it be bad?
I love how he's just a bull in a china shop.
Everything is so intricately placed together and there are certain things that you're not
supposed to comment on and say.
And he just goes in there and says the exact thing that nobody, nobody was supposed to
say, nobody wanted you to say, it didn't need to be said, and he just goes and does
it, man.
Did the leaders of Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland will gather on Monday to sign a deal
designated to Kickstart the breakup of the United Kingdom?
Holy shit!
What?
Um...
What?
Oh my god.
Brexit kickstarted this breakup.
What a sinister way of these nations, of saying these nations want independence.
I mean that's clearly what it is.
Stop by one of my biggest haters funeral today just to make sure that fellow was,
I love how it's fucking changed.
That fellow was dead.
And we should make it quick.
Oh my God.
Wow.
I mean, again, I'm gonna be real guys.
I don't know about the European politics of this.
Like I don't have like a hot take
on like whether this is a good or a bad thing.
Like I've just, you know, for as long as I can remember
it's always just been the UK.
And so, you know, I don't have like a hot take
on like, oh wow, I hope this happens
or this doesn't happen, right?
Immigration is for any UK.
Yeah, but Ireland has its own problems
with that too. It's not like immigration is unique to, you know, Great Britain. And if
Ireland separates, they're going to have, you know, the same thing. First, Catholic Prime
Minister ever, the UK immediately implodes, guys, this is crazy, like the historian in
me has gagged, this is history. Yeah, I mean, we're going to see what happens. The breakup
of the UK is happening.
It's crazy how much how much stuff has been happening recently it really is I feel like
almost every day there's been something new that's happened yeah show is good I watched
the first episode of this show I really couldn't get into it because like I mean maybe I should
watch more but I personally couldn't and saying to think that in two generations
from kids who might see the United Kingdom as some time relic as the Soviets in the Ottomans?
That's really crazy. That's a crazy contextualization. Damn. I didn't even think of that, but yeah,
it's kind of true. If the UK were to break, England's economy would skyrocket while Scotland,
Wales and Ireland would plateau to the level of Eastern Europe economies. I guess we're
going to have to see, right? I mean, I don't know. Holy shit, man. UK about to
suffer its fate is exacted and continues to wish upon others. Wow. That's a really big deal.
Holy shit, man. You see a news about Canada wanting to join the EU as an associate member?
No, I didn't see that. And I also thought this was really interesting that let me go and just
pull this up really quick off stream just for a reason that I can explain. But okay, yeah,
There you go. It should be fine. All right. So basically this happened. So basically this guy his name was professor Dave and he made a video
That destiny
Destiny loves genocide
So this is a video negative about him
update YouTube has removed Professor Dave's video on destiny thank you for
everyone who reported him for using for uploading see Sam and Doc's info to a
channel with 4.5 million subscribers he should absolutely lose his channel for
this I have just been made aware that Professor Dave included a snapshot of
Rosa's not safe for work Twitter account from when she was a minor which
includes sexualized imagery of her. Professor Dave knowingly edited and
broadcasted CSAM to the world. I recommend reporting the video for sexual
depictions of a minor. So let's pull this up. I don't see the
video taken down. It seems like it's up. Yeah, it seems like it's up to me. I
had to repost this video because of Dethny's pathetic cult of orbiters,
Masterported it for weeks on and with bogus accusations of C, K, Sam and Doxing, things that
Destiny does regularly at around 750K videos using time removal. Let's shove in their faces
and get this one to a million as close as possible. Yeah. Unlike the first video,
this one is fully monetized. I mean, again, I think that, man, that's pretty serious.
Zero truth for told in this video. I mean a destiny like again this is what a lot of the
I think that a lot of the pro-Palestine people what they do is that they try to reframe criticism
around Hamas or Palestinian actions as support for Israel. I don't know I haven't really seen
Destiny supporting Israel or saying anything super positive about Israel. So the entire focus that
people like have on that is just, I think it's like a false choice that they create that you
have to decide between supporting the IDF versus like supporting Hamas. This video is actually
insane. I really don't know. It's literally the length of Lord of the Rings and it's about
destiny and about how like everything is going down for destiny like I'm just
not annoying thing about all of the like the one-sided coverage is that like it
really does seem like like why does Israel attack all of these people like
why are they attacking Gaza you know what's going on there and they don't
we never hear about that like why is Israel trying to attack Lebanon I guess
just to invade and steal land destiny is completely right in this
accusation in this assumption he's completely right and it's totally
accurate, that they provide a one-sided frame of reference that
perpetrates that sorry that that makes Israel look like the
aggressor that makes Israel look like they are the bad actor.
And at the same time, they're just sitting there and doing
nothing and they're getting bombed by Hezbollah and by
Hamas. The reason why Israel is bombing Lebanon is because
Hamas or Hezbollah is in Lebanon, shooting rockets into
Israel. Ever hear about why? You just answered your own question, dipshit. This is happening
because of Western imperialism. There's nothing one-sided here. It's not happening because of
Western imperialism. If it was happening because of Western imperialism before the West was involved
in the Middle East, there'd be no wars. But if you ever open up a history book, he says his
name is Professor Dave. If you open up a history book, the Middle Eastern people have been
killing each other for years. Like again, this is the type of stuff. So that's the way that he
responds to something like that. So yeah, it's just total bullshit. I could go into it. Yeah,
it's Western imperialism is that that's the real reason why. How pathetic. Western imperialism for
two millennia. Yeah, get the fuck out of here. What a loser. And again, that's what they do.
It's Western imperialism that makes Hamas kill Jews in Gaza.
It's Western imperialism that makes them rape people.
Right. OK. What a joke.
What a weird, sick joke.
And let's go back.
I'll see if there's one when this is happening.
It's like a half hour from now.
Let me see if we're building. OK.
Where is it here?
World building is no. Is this it?
No, I don't think that's it. Where to go?
World Warcraft forever.
Okay, there it is. Watch now. Okay.
So as soon as this is over, we're going to have the new one.
Lost your spec form? Yeah, I like Professor Dave for the science videos, but that's about it.
I think that, you know, again, when you want to look at this, I think that
you take on these like really you know topical things and these like
controversial topics you are gonna change the way that people see you the bot
comments today man holy I mean I don't know about that I didn't see any bots but
yeah lost your spec form yeah huge huge loser right let me see here like blaming
the system for Clancy killing her kids well this is what these people always
like to do. They like to reassign accountability to something that's not
themselves. It's not the Islamic terrorist fault for blowing up a building or
killing people or doing some other bullshit. It's actually Israel or America
that made them do it. It's just total bullshit and I think that most people
at this point are kind of fatigued from it. They're fatigued from hearing that
every single bad thing that somebody like that does is actually the fault of
somebody else. I just think that overall, nobody is interested in listening to that anymore.
That nobody cares. Nobody wants to go through and fucking have any of that. And you have
updates. What mean updates? Oh, for a while. No, that's not for another 15 minutes. We're
waiting on it. It's going to be in 15 minutes. Well, I was not going to have a comeback.
If they really tried, they would have announced Warcraft 4. I don't need WoW to have a
comeback. I just want to have a game that's fun to play. I am out of the realm of being
emotionally compromised by the way a video game is being played. At this point, I just
simply want to play a video game and enjoy myself. I don't want to hear about fucking
like, oh my, it's not going to be the new biggest game ever. I'm going to finish
like Nina the Howler that I want to play fucking war dogs some more. What are your biggest concerns
with WoW forever? My biggest concerns probably about class design and how the new raids are
going to interface with the old raids. And honestly, I just want to play it and see, right?
I don't know enough about it right now to really have like a super strong opinion.
Does Don Walker interest you? I'm talking about Offstream, but yeah, Don Walker does interest me.
I'm probably going to play that. I'll at least do one or two days on stream because I know a lot of
people are excited for that game. Paladin looks busted. I know, man, it looks so good. It's
ridiculous. I don't have to get forced into that mindset. Yeah, I'm totally out on the
getting mad about a video game not doing what I want it to do. I'm just totally
out on it. I don't want to hear about it. I don't want to deal with it. I don't want
to get emotionally, you know, invested in it. Like for a lot of people, their game
that that happened with was, you know, it was gonna be Grand Theft Auto 6 or,
you know, it was Ashes of Creation or World of Warcraft or Final Fantasy. To
me, like it was definitely well, like I was so like, I mean, I put like 30,000 hours into
the game, right? I played it for like just a ridiculous, like an insane amount of time.
So to me now, I just don't like New World is the same way I really cared a lot about
that game. I just don't want to have any sort of bullshit with that. I just don't
want to, I don't want to care anymore. And I don't mean that in a bad way. I
I mean it in a good way like I just don't want to know more Valheim then I'm probably not on stream like I
Honestly, I forgot how punishing and treacherous that game was I did it was it's so hard
And it's like I was playing the game yesterday
And I got killed by like one attack from a mob and like the mislands and I just uninstalled the game
I did I uninstalled it. I was just like I don't want to deal with this. I don't want to play this
It's not fun. I spent like fucking four hours trying to get seeker warrior trophies because I didn't loot an item from the Queen
So I have to re kill her but if I spawn it in then it disables achievements
So I have to do it myself and I was just like it filtered. Yeah, I kind of got filtered
You're right. I just I and again like I'm past the point in my life where it's like if I'm playing a game and I
Feel like I'm wasting my time or it's not fun. I just quit I
I just quit like it's a video game like it's just a game, right? I mean like we're like fuck that
Same like yeah, I don't want to play a game like that. I mean it's just not not enjoyable
so
Yeah, you can enable cheese and also enable achievements via console command
Well, I think that's just kind of odd
But yeah, and you're getting more slowly as you age not gonna lie. I am and I think that's a good thing
I think that the emotional investment that I used to have into like proving that I could beat a video game to myself was childish
And I think it was just that's like that's that's what an idiot does
It's what a what a weirdo does and I just don't really have that desire anymore
I think that you know, maybe if I get older if it's a game I really care about I'd do it
But you know ultimately I just don't want to have to spend that much time doing recursive gameplay
And if I have to I just kind of lose interest in the game
But it's interesting because I played it so much when it came out
But I just don't even really want to continue at all just based off of how
Just over just insanely unforgiving and punishing it is. It's just not I just I just don't have fun playing it
Straight up and like I always ask myself like I mean am I even like
Am I enjoying my time doing something and like if the answer to that is no
Then I just stopped doing it like why would I ever do something that I don't want to do
I'm not having fun doing something or enjoying myself.
Why would I invest my time or energy into this?
This looks boring.
Yeah, that's why I'm not doing it.
Another same thing, right?
Let's move on.
Yeah, definitely.
So, I used to take pride in being high ranked in the league when I was a failure in university.
It was always a cope.
Well, I think it's great if you want to be really high ranked in a game and you
know, like you should be happy that you did well in the game, but it is just
a game, right?
you know, you shouldn't get too stressed out or, you know, like, connected to it or anything
like that.
Same once I realized I'm not having fun, I quit every gotcha game I was playing.
Yeah.
And I think that, like, really, like, I had a paradigm shift with that as well.
Do you think you ever get that way of streaming?
I mean, I can't, so this is what's really weird about me as an individual.
My feelings change instantly and in a way that I usually can't predict.
So for a long time, I would tell myself, well, maybe one day I'll quit streaming.
At this point in time, though, I don't ever really expect to quit streaming.
I don't.
I mean, when I'm like 50, I'll probably still be streaming.
Now, maybe I might have another job, maybe I'm doing something else in life, and so
I'm not streaming full time every single day.
But at the same time, my priorities might change, but I'll probably still always do
it because I've always done it.
And so we would riot, bro.
Yeah, yeah, I mean I might not stream every day for like you know six eight hours a day, but you know, maybe maybe I will I don't know
We'll see what happens
So and uh, probably it's too many cheap programs these days for multiplayer like cod
Well, it's like I asked myself like I was playing war dogs
And here's just the bottom line
I was having more fun playing war dogs than I was having playing valheim
So I went back to playing war dogs
That's it. That's the beginning and the end. That's the whole thing. And you know what?
Here's what's funny. I said the same thing about the first Berserker Kazan, and then
during my break in my band, I came back to the game and I beat the entire game and
was one of the best souls likes that I've ever played. So I'm not totally out on it and I don't
hate it now. And so maybe with Valheim this same thing will happen. I will come back to it in maybe
a year or something and I'll come back to it. I'll say let's start fresh. Maybe I'll make a server
with Kaisi. We'll play together and I'll go through the whole game. So I don't like writing
something off and I love the game. You guys know I played it like 300 hours, right? But
Ultimately, I just feel like it's not something that I'm that interested in doing right now.
So yeah, and I feel like that's just the way it is. Valheim is too slow. I put cheats in,
it's so much more fun. Well, I could give a lot of opinions on it, but that's really generally
what I think is so clunky with its combat and movement. Yeah, it just didn't really,
like I was playing it and I was realizing I wasn't having fun, so I quit. And also,
I really like war dogs. I do I really like it like I was talking to McConnell
I ain't tell McConnell to play that game because it's the it's the first game that's reminded me of pub G
Like it's the first game that's reminded me of pub G since pub G
There's not any gamer friends are needed
Well, I played the whole game by myself solo and it was incredible like I would rate my experience at 10 out of 10
Like I truly had a great experience playing the game
But you know again, you know, they say you can never step in the same river twice
So especially when the river is filled with fucking mist and shit that hits you from offscreen that you can't say
So, yeah, but that's what is this thing come out?
It's in it's in fucking it's a 315 right so that's in like five minutes. Where the fuck is this?
From all straight. Yeah. Yeah, I'll say off-stream off-camera to respond to my previous DMs first
He's mad
Yeah, and again, you're right. You're right. And I the reason why I didn't respond to your DMs is because honestly, I wanted to make sure that I wrote the right thing is it's fine. Everything's fine, but it was just a conversation that we were having.
I know. Yeah, I get it. Because I was like, Okay, let me think about because I woke up this morning. I went to bed. I've been trying to go to bed early so I can watch, watch BlizzCon, right? Obviously, one more Dawgs masterful again today.
I might play a little bit more of it today too, but I don't know.
It depends on how long this goes on, and other things that happen, like I don't want to commit to anything right now.
So, we'll see what happens. How'd you fare into Maluka fight in Kazan?
I got into the second phase of my first attempt, and then I was like,
Man, that's a really fast attack in that second phase.
That's really fast. Damn.
So yeah, I remember even I was I was fighting him. I was like, this is so easy, dude.
I'm gonna he's gonna have two health bars or something, right?
And they finish on Emusha. I did not. I probably that's the thing, right?
Is like, should I fit?
Did people like the on Emusha playthrough? Like, let me even see. Has been going on Emusha.
Did people like watching this? Oh my god.
700k views. It's a three hour vaude. Jesus Christ.
Yeah
Maybe I could play it more yeah, I don't know I have to think about it
Please finish it bro people will watch it for years. Yeah. Yeah, I probably should we'll see what happens
But I mean like how close am I to being done like with no spoilers or anything?
How close am I to being done with where I'm at?
That's low for your videos. That's okay though. I'm like 60% done, so I'm two streams away basically.
Okay, that's good to know. There's a lot from our presentation that started 10 minutes ago
that's on the main stage also. Wait, am I missing something? I don't think I'm missing
something Emily. I don't think I'm missing this. It's in five
minutes. Yeah, you guys are stressing me out. It feels more
views. I mean, I guess, again, like I don't base whether I'm
gonna play a game only off of like views. But to be honest,
I did do that was schedule one like I didn't realize how popular the playthrough was because I figured I'd just play it for one day
And did not think about it again, and then I saw how popular like everybody in my chat was like coming in asking me
Like when are you gonna play this again, and I was like wait what the fuck?
Is it really that big of a game? But yeah, apparently it was
Game and mega bonk. Yeah. Yeah, it was like fucking nuts
That was a go-to playthrough. Yeah, we played movement games and prototype. Yeah, it's coming out in a few days
Actually, I'm pretty sure it is
And yeah, we're just waiting for this to happen and come out.
I think it's going to be on the main stage,
but I'm not sure really which stage it's going to be.
Let me just go back to the page
and I can just click on it again.
Watch now.
Okay, it says it's going to be this one.
This guy's rolling so fun.
Yeah, yeah, I think so too.
Are you skipping forever beta?
No.
I'm going to play it.
I'm going to play the whole beta.
And I'm going to play the beta.
I'm going to play the whole game.
I'm excited. I'll be right back.
After solid, I'm not holding my breath.
Really?
I had a lot of fun playing Season of Discovery.
I'm not the only person that really enjoyed it.
Like I didn't play the entire thing.
I quit at level 50, but I enjoyed myself playing Season of Discovery.
was nice but I feel like my interest in it declined over time I had fun yeah I had
fun for the time that I played and then we were doing sunken temple and
everything was taking forever people kept dying I was just like I gotta go
guys oh I gotta go I love getting locked tank and sod yeah it was a cool
idea. Sog was fun until phase two came in. I think that it was fun to me, but like we
beat us doing Sunken Temple was really fun. But other than that, I mean I'm just not really
that super interested in doing it again or anything else, right?
Sunken Temple gotta be the most quit dungeon. Why the fuck make it a raid? I actually thought
it was a great idea to make it a raid. I just, the reason why I stopped is that I just kind
of stopped. I mean, I don't know. Like, it just wasn't something I was like that excited
for. You gotta check the player charts for war dogs. Let me see. I'll pull it up while
we wait. War dogs. Oh my god. So, okay, so it looks like it might actually hit 500k,
Like I said, and y'all remember what I was talking about about how good games grow over
time?
Yeah, the game's really, really good.
It's insanely good.
Check marathon, meanwhile.
Marathon?
Oh god.
Dude, look at Valheim?
Yeah, let me see how Valheim is doing.
That's actually a good question.
I don't know.
Is it on the top?
Wow!
Oh my god.
That is insane.
300,000 players.
All of those people came back from 1.0.
That is fucking ridiculous.
Oh my god.
And even Pow World still has 100k players.
Holy shit.
People still play this shit.
Wow.
Let me go back and look at these other ones.
Yeah.
And POE2 is still in the top 10.
This is because of the new league, right?
I feel like the new league wasn't that exciting, like, yeah, that 147k people playing, like,
not anything too crazy.
This is the one that I played, right?
May?
Yeah, it was something like May, yeah, when I was playing it the first time.
It's an event more than a league.
Oh, okay, I didn't even know that.
Well, anyway, like, the fact that it's that high is still crazy.
And obviously, you know, we will look at...it's gonna be...it's actually...I think this week
it might dip under 3000.
It might go under 3000 this week.
That's crazy.
What will be the first day?
Oh no, it already hit under a thousand.
I mean dude imagine having a game with a studio that's as big as Bungie and it's crashing out on that level
That's insane. So what's happening with this event?
They said the event starts at 315. It hasn't started
Are they gonna do it like right after this
like I just I mean I guess this is probably the end of it right the MDI just ended did
these guys win or something you've been blocked uh-huh Marathon went down 500 when you were
I mean again like it was just bad the game was basically dead team liquid. Oh good for them. Wow
Wow
2019 and you guys all in the audience have been showing up and cheering them on the entire time
Do you remember the first mdi?
Where Quinn gets invited?
That was so funny
And just being with everyone live
I mean you can feel this race in a way that even when we're remote the excitement is there
But this is so intense
Now Aya has our winning team your champions for the mythic dungeon international
Yeah, I just I mean again, I thought the I thought MDI was
The first season of it was really entertaining but like now people are just too good
They're too good and like you don't have any X factor teams
not at least not ones that engage a wider audience other than the competitive
wow audience. Like I remember for example whenever Chance was sponsoring a team to
play in in what was it in like the arena like everybody watched that and then
when what are you on about well what I'm saying is that like whenever you
have like really really really good players that are involved. I think what
happens is that people get kind of bored with watching the same people and
they want to see new people come in and get involved. That's really the way I'd
look at it. Well, yeah we're waiting on it to start. I'm
assuming it's gonna start after this right? It's gonna start after the
finals. That's what I'm guessing. That's when that's you, wait me, wait what? Like
XQC with Overwatch? Yeah, exactly. And is that why League is go to? Yeah, well a lot
of League players were, um, yeah forever now please go go forever now. Like where's
forever? Where's wad? Azman play GTA 7. Liquid can't be stopped this year. Who
Who cares for on forever panel?
Who cares about Avismon?
Hasn't the WAF forever surfaced the last five minutes ago?
Yeah, I just don't really think a lot of people
are that interested in NDI or anything like that anymore.
Yeah, it's just like,
I think also, I don't know what the participation is
and how many people play,
how many people play like WAF nowadays,
like the current retail WAF.
to me I mean I just I feel like the MDI back then was really exciting because I was playing
Mythic Plus and now I'm not playing Mythic Plus so I'm not excited. Would Olympus ever
be a word? No. You are a huge lost dreamer. How come you never worked closer with Blizzard?
I was always a controversial figure with Blizzard because like I was I was very toxic
and i did a bunch of bad stuff
and blizzard kind of was very
uh... they were very gun-shy about that like they're a woke company
and this is before even got involved with politics but i was still an asshole
right everybody could tell that i was an asshole
even before i gave my opinions on things
then they just knew
but before that they could pretty much tell
and then what deal with me
That's the reason why.
Fighting for his chance was too, but he eventually got
Nurgut Graces.
Yeah, but that was after a long time too.
That was a very, very long time.
No world buffs in Classic Plus confirmed?
Oh boy, that's interesting.
Yeah, I wish I was able to get to the thing,
but I don't know if there's a broadcast of it
I can watch. Let me go and just double check over here. Make sure there's nothing I'm missing.
Warcraft 3, panel, this isn't it. That's not it.
It's late. I just want to make sure I'm not missing it, you know.
It's wrapping up. Yeah, sorry. I'm just worried. I'm worried I'm missing it.
No, Whirl buffs is a massive nerf to warriors too.
It is because we scale with Whirl buffs really well.
We scale better with Whirl buffs than like any other class.
So you know, not great.
It's not fun preparing Whirl buffs and losing them to random bullshit death.
I think that you should be able to just make them, like I like the idea of Whirl buffs,
But I get why they're getting rid of it.
The Boon was good.
Yeah.
I think they should, I think World Buffs should be unpurgeable.
They should be, like they don't go away when you die.
And I think that World Buffs also should be, you can put them in like a Boon, right?
Like what I would do is that I would make a world buff, a unique item that is like a,
like it's given to you in an inventory piece.
Like there's like an inventory slot and inside the slot it says rallying cry of the dragon
slayer, right?
And you can click on it and then activate it whenever you want.
Like that's what I would prefer because I like the idea saw I did that, that's smart.
And only to your group, you know, like a scroll, yeah, kind of like scroll.
I didn't play that part inside. I had no idea that they did that
Why not just get rid of them because it makes it to where bad guilds can clear bosses
That's really that's actually the main reason like it literally just makes it to where bad guilds can clear boss without having to
You know struggle
Because it just makes them so much better
Damn bro, I got I got the spider in front of my my my fucking my computer
He's really going crazy today. Usually he's not this active. He's having a big day.
Eat it? No, no. I mean, I don't really have to deal with fucking bugs at all.
So, I mean, like he and I have an agreement, but for some reason he's just fucking pissed today.
I don't know what the hell he's doing.
I hope you're doing well today.
Yeah, and for asking me to get on, yeah, no, I mean,
like you're here just in time.
Apparently there's going to be a big event.
At least I hope so, right?
So like just so I can be 100% certain,
after this is over, the forever panel starts, right?
Like I just don't want to mess myself up
or confuse myself or anything else.
Is the panel delayed?
OK, yeah.
All right, that's fine.
I guess we'll just wait.
Do you hear the spiders enough water?
They're fine, though.
They're good.
No Mythic Plus in forever is interesting.
Mythic Plus is cringe.
I don't like difficulty options.
I think everybody that plays a game
should play the same exact mode.
And if you want a difficulty option,
you could have maybe an accessibility option
to where everything is basically autoplay,
where like it just basically plays a game for you for like people that are
disabled or something
but other than that i mean i don't really see why you would
why you'd want to add that
robot items are now available what is this
upon this
wait they literally did this
wait that was that was what i wanted them to do
holy shit
That's really fucking funny that they literally did the exact thing that I wanted them to.
What about hard modes like Old-Awar?
I think that's acceptable as like a middle ground, but I don't want to have it be like a setting.
Like to me, for example, like here's a great example of a hard mode.
So in Ornstein and Smo in Dark Souls 1
You generally like 90 I would say like 99% of players probably kill Ornstein first and then they kill Smo
Like that's generally what happens. So
Really the hard mode is doing it the other way around
So I would say that's an example of like the same thing or like in Sekiro. Oh, well the bell
I didn't like the bell
Yeah, I wasn't a fan of the bell hard mode should just be take less players you get a better ratio of loot maybe
AQ 40 had an arm. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, the AQ 40 bug hard mode. I forgot all about that
Holy shit, and then you would put those fucking poison debuffs that would do like 1800 damage or something
Nothing new episode of all craft. Thank you, man. I appreciate it
I'm also too had night mode that was night mode was terrible was a horribly designed I
just wish that people like if you want to make a hard mode for your game if your idea
of hard mode is 100% health and damage just fucking don't just don't make a hard mode like
it's just it's not fun it's not interesting it's not exciting it's just stupid and boring
RubySanctum sort of had a hard mode. Did it? I remember a RubySanctum hard mode. Yeah, I don't remember that at all.
That's all gotchas and played HP. Yeah. Dark Anor Londo. No, that's not really hard mode. That's just
another boss. Duxels 2 and New Game Plus added new enemies and mimics. Do you remember that area
that you go down and you drop down and you like drop into like water and there's a big guide that's
like red that's gonna fucking attack you in new game plus and parcels too it's so fucking annoying
there's probably like three people that know that i remember that's when i quit the game like i i
finally i got through it and i did it and i'd use like five flasks and i was like okay i'm
quitting this isn't fun fuck this hey well legendary and cod veteran we're good yeah
greater rifts should always be like their own thing i just i don't like infinite scaling
content because it doesn't give me the sense of completing of completion. I like the idea of completion
and whenever I don't have the ability to complete something it doesn't feel even nearly as fun.
You do transmog competitions in WoW forever?
Yeah I'll probably do one. I mean I feel like I have to like I'm legally obligated to do a
transmog competition. How do you think day and night cycle is going to work in realmless WoW?
I think they should do so like how should they do a day and night cycle?
I think they should do a 12 hour one
So it should go day and night two times a day
It's either that or make it matched with the realm time
So like if it's midnight in the game
Then it's midnight out there like I don't think that areas should have always night time or always daytime
There are some people that complain and they say well
I can only play at night and I don't want it to always be dark
get that but I think there's also a level of immersion which is like that's
the reason why I say six or 12 hour yeah yeah I think that's probably the
solution right is giving people a 12 hour cycle so they don't have to worry
about it but then what's realm time then well realm time would be whatever the
realm time is assigned to right so if it's a realm that's located in Texas
it would probably be Texas time if it's a realm that's located in Japan it
would probably be Japanese time I don't know but it's a global server server time
can't work yeah then just do 12 hour cycles yeah I feel like a 12 hour cycle
would be fine because like having the having the the time change too fast
feels weird I felt like it was too fast in BDO for example
No more realms? Yeah, I'm so happy about that. That's going to be amazing. Four hour
cycle is more practical. I just feel like four is too fast. It makes it feel too much
like a game. Whereas like 12, it really feels like you're locked in and you're going
to experience this in like one continuous way. Is this it?
Land unexplored
This might be a
Did they finish the in the eyes? It's over right?
Is mdi over
Yes, okay
Let's get it.
I do agree with people on Twitter that this game doesn't fight that that scene is like
that's like a scene out of dragonflight you know I mean I think it like I mean
overall it was great but I mean they're right about that part they are
Cause it is, yeah.
Could be a bit grittier.
Yeah, I like the sound of that.
world of somebody sitting in chat they call that world of gay crap that's what people
are saying
of daycraft. Truffoo! I think showing the Archimonde corpse was really cool. I like that. Like
that there that was bad ass
his nose
overall thoughts in forever so far
I'm very positive about it
Yeah I am. I'm positive. I'm looking forward to it. I'm excited.
I do wish that it was a different name. I'll say it again too. I wish it was a different name.
All right, here we go.
What's up, Liskon?
I want you all to imagine Duskwood.
You all know Duskwood, right?
Yeah.
It's a dark, creepy forest.
Yep.
Crawling with spiders and wolves.
Yeah.
Haunted with undead ghouls and skeletons.
The guards of the night watch.
Torches in hand.
Patrol dangerous roads.
Keeping their eyes out for a certain abomination.
Uh-oh.
There's dilapidated buildings, abandoned farms.
It's a terrifying place.
Now, now that you have that image in your head.
Okay.
Let's take a look at the real thing.
Where is it?
Boom.
Oh
There we go
All right
So we have classic desk wood here, right?
Darkshire town square around two in the morning. Uh-huh awesome, right?
iconic
definitely a favorite zone
But it might not be as dark or creepy as you remember it should be when I remember desk wood
Yeah, it was way darker.
Imagine the light of the full moon illuminating an eerie cold fog.
Do it.
There we go!
They gotta make the sky black.
Make that ship black.
All right, I remember graveyards teeming with skeletons the dim warm glow of torches guiding my past
Thank you
The silhouettes of terrible creatures lurking in the fall
of all. It's feeling of dread and danger around every single corner. And of course, most of
all, I remember constantly looking over my shoulder.
They got darkened all the time.
In the raid in the cemetery.
Darkened all the time.
I don't run into this guy and potentially lose another one of my hardcore characters.
Right.
Now, this is the dust wood that I remember.
Yeah, just darkened all the time.
is what we're so excited to talk about here today.
I was wow forever.
We are evolving our timeless world.
But before we jump into that,
let me bring my buddy Jason out onto the stage,
and we'll do some quick introductions.
So, my name is Matt Hammon.
I'm a lead environment artist on World of Warcraft.
Can I? Thank you.
And I've been at Blizzard working on a wow for 15 years realism
Maybe sounds like a long time, right? But believe it or not 15 years ago
We were starting production on miss the pandaria
But don't worry. I've been playing wow since it launched back in 2004. I was in high school
And my favorite way to play wow is hardcore classic, but I cannot wait until hardcore hits wow forever
I've been with World Warcraft for about three years, but that was after more than 20 years
in visual effects and animation for film and television, both on the art side and on the
technology side.
This guy knows how to talk.
But my personal history with WoW goes back a lot farther than the three years I've
been at Blizzard.
all the way back to the beta.
Back to May 2004,
this is my actual Wow Beta invite.
You can see the date right there.
So my appreciation for Wow long predates,
I'd be able to work on the game itself.
All right. Back to Matt.
All right. Thanks, Jason.
So what does it mean to evolve a timeless world?
Well, I'm sure you've seen so far at
show that we're making some aesthetic changes to the world of Azeroth.
So let's start by looking at our overall visual goal for WoW Forever.
Mm-hmm.
Azeroth, as you remember it.
Sounds cool, right?
But what does that mean?
Well, we wanted to take that original vanilla version of Azeroth and combine it with
the version that lives in our heads, where our experiences, nostalgia, and our imagination
all shaped the way that we remember it.
OK, sure.
So how did we go about doing that?
What did that process look like?
All that makes sense.
Well, first, we started by looking at all the content
coming to wow forever.
Mm hmm.
We knew that we were we were going to have a bunch of brand
new zones that players had never seen before.
Sure. Is that for style?
Starting zone for the new Skyborne race.
That blue day ship still playable here today.
If you haven't checked it out, it's literally right there.
And then we have the River Glades another brand new zone coming to the coast of the Eastern kingdoms right next to the Red Ridge Mountains
Uh-huh players will probably check this out around the mid, you know level 30 area and
That's nice. We knew that we wanted to expand and alter some of our existing areas
Like the city of Dalaran is now fully present. Oh next to the ultra
Just like a long-dumb understanding
bubble.
That's good.
And then of course, finally, we have all of our existing zones, around 40 of them.
And that's the original, and this is the new one?
That's there more.
So you've probably heard this before, a couple of times here at the show, but we consider
the world to be our main character.
But I like to consider it as a cast of characters, with each and every zone having its own
unique color palette, mood, atmosphere, its own essence.
So that created a bit of a challenge for us.
How do we take brand new zones that players
have never seen before and make them feel like something
that's always been there?
Well, simultaneously take our existing zones
and breathe new life into them.
I just realized this.
You really turn them into that version that you imagined.
You know what they're doing?
So there were two components.
They're adding in the draw distance
of the old computers with fog.
Come on, Felwood, hurry up.
It's basically just, it's like your shitty computer draw distance again.
Our engineering teams collaborated to develop a bunch of new rendering updates.
It's really funny.
That would help us enhance the look of the world.
And then of course, we would create new art assets to build out these new spaces.
Our new zones, our new dungeons, and our new raids.
Smart, yeah.
Now, changing a world that players have cherished for such a long time has risks.
So we wanted to make sure that we approached it carefully and responsibly.
So we developed a guiding artistic principle that we followed every step of the way.
Everything must be authentic. Everything we create, everything we change, everything we add
must be authentic, authentic to our world, authentic to our art style, and most importantly,
Authentic to all the memories that we have of that vanilla Azeroth.
We're not here to change things just for the sake of change.
Good.
We know that you all love the vanilla world, and so it's really important to us that we respect that.
Now, let's take a look at a quick example.
Here we have...
Durotar.
...Vanilla Durotar outside the gates of Orgrimmar.
Yeah.
Everyone loves Durotar, right?
Nope.
Durotar fans, and I think, okay, cool.
Sucked.
Now, as an artist, it might be tempting when I get new tech or new tools to go in and just change everything because it's fun and exciting.
Yeah.
As an example, maybe the whole zone changes to have a cool blue atmosphere.
Nope.
It feels natural and realistic, but that's not Durotar.
That's not the way it was.
We could go even more extreme and change the atmosphere to a foggy green atmosphere.
Let me see it.
But again, neither of these are authentic to Durotar.
Yeah, yeah, it looks cool. That's the approach is to go in with purpose and lean in and push the fantasy that dirt are already has
Yeah, it's our is an arid but vibrant landscape
Full of red rock canyons. Yeah dry cracked earth and a hot
sweltering atmosphere
So you see authenticity was so important to creating a dirt are that players remember Wow
Now, authenticity was equally important, or maybe even more important, when it came to
creating new assets for WoW Forever.
Because our models and textures are the foundation of WoW's art style.
It is.
And it's an art style that has changed over the years with every expansion.
But for WoW Forever, we wanted to maintain that iconic, up-and-down look.
There's an edge and grittiness to the way those assets look.
Yeah, that looks good.
like Warcraft.
That's a new zone.
So,
if we summarize,
the way that we created
what I'm going to write,
is a little bit of old
and a little bit of new.
We're creating assets that
maintain that timeless,
iconic look,
and we're bringing in new rendering updates
to help breathe new life into our world.
Great.
To give us a more detailed look at those rendering updates. I'm going to pass it over to Jason
Thanks, Matt. So that was strong guard. No, it wasn't
To achieve the visuals we wanted for while forever
Several different rendering technology areas and each of these was chosen with the goal of being authentic as Matt said
With enhancing the look of the game so that you could be that much more immersed in the world of Azeroth. Yeah
So we're going to look at these technologies in three groupings, fog, lighting, and water.
And now each of these is actually made up of multiple technologies.
We're going to use these groupings to help illustrate things.
And as I talk, we're going to play some examples.
You have a better idea of what it is that we've done.
And there's one more thing.
These aren't just individual items, individual components that we decide to work on.
Our artists and our engineers collaborated to bring them all together
that the goal of giving us the look of WoW Forever.
So, let's get into the details, all right?
First, let's talk about Fog.
Fog has been integral to WoW's look since the very beginning, all right?
And if we look at some examples from Vanilla WoW,
we can use that to understand how we've used Fog over the years.
We've used it in a variety of ways.
It's great zones like this one a gloomy
Yeah, sure dark swamp like dust wall of marsh
I remember that fog helped us create the mood and the ambiance we wanted to provide for the players
Or we might create a zone like this one
This one yeah, I see it right where we make we use fog to make a light an airy atmosphere
Uh-huh done row in the mountain who's on the production we can use
Damn, bro. We wake him up this or give a sense of depth
If you know who's this slide guy had its own unique fuck up man
But we go back to the beginning back to the launch of wow
We use fog out in the oh, yeah particular purpose related to game performance David's working through it today
We have limitations on our view distance or our draw distance at the beginning. They do
That's the distance at which from the player we're not really able to change the cataclysm
What else is out there in the world? Yeah, they change that cataclysm. So in order to not really show that to the players
We would hide that in a wall of fog. Uh-huh
and
We have some other examples of this so I was right standing the Baron
They're trying to manufacture. You should be able to kind of look at my C and Shadritar. Maybe a little to Azhara
That's really funny
We need to be able to control those sight lines for those reasons and
Over the years we were able to improve that view distance and work on that fog and approve it
But we didn't want to be bound by any technical limitations anymore
We wanted to create a link control what we were able to show you out in the distance. Oh
And in addition
With fog we wanted to have pockets of fog and maybe you could walk through this round a player
Or maybe we get high things in the fog
We want to be able to shine light through it, or have it have shadows, or have it move,
have dust and dirt and particles and texture.
And now all these things can be done in a system called volumetrics, or volumetric fog.
And so it became our goal to replace our original distant fog with this new volume fog technology.
They have this in Unreal 5.
And Valve Forever has given us that chance.
Yeah, we've seen this.
Our engineers and our artists have worked together to develop a system to control fogs like we never have before.
Now we can increase that sense of creepiness in Dust Wall Park.
Yeah, that's good. They gotta make it darker, bro.
I think they have to make it darker.
It feels too bright.
And we can see the effect of wind in a zone.
Oh really?
We feel the texture of dust. We can see it sweep across the plains of the western plains.
That's good. I like that.
If you didn't know, each zone has its own unique wind as well.
Yeah.
We've also been able to adjust that sight line between the zones that we were talking about.
And so now, when we do stand near the Barrens and we do look over into Durator, we can start to make out the plant formations.
We can't see start to see into a Jara
And as we look back in a day, we can even see Nordrassil atop Mount Hydra. Yeah, that that's definitely aura for sure
They showed that early on Gerritar. I was like that was bad ass
This gives us a sense of the good idea in some world that we have in Azeroth
Now another example this is back in the wetlands to being able to see like a
The carrying Academy from now. We're not bound by that view distance
Now we can see the backs of the mountains of Dunmeros.
And we stand and we look across Menovell Harbor.
We look across the Bairdon Bay.
We can start to make out the violet citadel of Dalaran in the Altrack Mountains.
That's really good. I like that a lot.
Our new fog is one of the biggest visual changes in WoW's history.
Yeah.
Now in some of these examples, you might see rays of light were commonly called God rays and you could see this really vividly here in Ashen bale
These rays of light come from our ability to shine light through the fog in a process called scattering
You can see this on the path with the lights on the path as well
And the size and the shape of those rays come from what's blocking the light or simply what's casting shadows into the fog
This is really good from the trees or mountains or anything else
Now these are beautiful and we're so excited we get to bring this kind of imagery to the game
So this is a natural place to go to our second set of technologies
Lighting they cook what they did so as you saw in Asheville
We have some beautiful new lighting that comes with our new fog
But in trying to achieve the lighting we realize there were a couple of additional areas. We needed to adjust
So I'm gonna use some time-lapse footage from the badlands to help explain what I mean
Okay, all right
So here we have the badlands in vanilla. Wow
And we're showing some of the Sun and the moon is that Sun sets and rises behind the mountain
At the risk of destroying the illusion
We're gonna play out a couple of things a couple of attributes to help illustrate what we needed to adjust
So in order to talk about lighting, you need to be able to talk about shadows.
In fact, there's two pieces of shadows we're going to talk about.
So let's start there.
Oh, shadows don't change.
The first thing is we look around and we see as the sun and the moon go up and down
behind them.
You'll see a little bit of some rays that we had, but they're not really getting
properly walked or occluded by the mountain.
The second is if you look at the shadows from the tower, as the moon and the sun
changed position in the sky those shadows don't do anything right in fact those shadows shouldn't
even be there some of the time because the mountains should be shadowing as well exactly yeah these
kinds of qualities came from the fact that historically our was 2004 position in the sky
did not actually line up with the light we were casting into the world yeah sure now we've known
this from the beginning and a lot of you knew this but with our new fog this is going to
to become really, really obvious. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Well, we did change some of that over
Wow history and get some of the light to change position. It didn't really change that much
and achieve what we wanted. So now let's look at Wow forever. Oh, you can see that there
be light starts coming up to dawn as streams of light just come popping over that. Yeah.
Damn. All right. All right. Moon as well. There it is. And you can look at those
You can look at those shadows from the tower from the mountainous. They're getting properly cast into the world is lit
Okay, let's look at another similar example this time in Mughore. All right, again vanilla. Wow as it basically was on day one
Ain't change see those shadows from the trees. Yeah aren't moving
All right, and again later on later expansions. They did move a little but not very much and now again now
Wow forever
So, to achieve this, we need to change a couple of things.
That's pretty good.
The first thing is we need to make sure everything in our world is properly shining.
We need to make sure the mountains, the terrain, the land formations were properly blocking
the light as it was coming into the world.
And then secondly, we need to make sure that the position of the Sun and the Moon
more closely aligned with the light that was coming in.
Yeah, yeah.
Now, there are still some creative and artistic choices
we make, but this is so exciting that makes
the world that much more alive.
But there's another lighting aspect here
we have to talk about.
With all these new shadows from our fog, from our terrain,
our world had a chance of getting a little bit darker.
So let's talk about what that means.
So here in Elwin Forest, there's
always shadows, whether it be from trees or something
else.
Make sure you see where those shadows are, right?
And what we've done historically is we've filled in those shadows
with kind of a flat, low level of lighting called ambient lighting.
And that's meant to simulate how light from the sky
or light that bounces around the world
fills in the dark areas, fills in the shadows.
But that ambient light never quite accomplished
what we were really wanting.
You'll see it is quite flat.
If you look under the stable, for example,
it should be significantly darker in there
because there's less opportunity for light to bounce inside.
What we really wanted was a way to calculate
how lighting is bouncing around the world.
When light hits a surface, it picks up the color
of that surface, or there's less opportunity
in the dark area.
It's a lot of 2.0, classic 2.0, yeah.
This system where we have light that indirectly bounces
or indirectly illuminates something
is naturally called indirect illumination
or global illumination.
Well, that would make sense, because the, yeah.
Let me show you what that means in WoW Forever.
Now, when we use our global illumination system
fill in those shadows. We get such a more natural, integrated, immersive look. Immersive
view to everything that's going in. You can even see some red light that bounces off the
top of the stables and hits the sides of the chapel. You can see green light filters
through from the sunlight, filtering through the green leaves into the shadowed area
behind the tree. Oh, that's cool. Right. And you can see in the stable, there's
it's a lot more naturally dark, right? So that there's because there's less opportunity
from that light to bounce around in there.
Yeah.
So now if we compare these, you can
see how it was with our ambient light
versus with our global illumination system.
You'll see how much more life it brings as we look at that.
Oh.
Oh.
That's good.
Now, we can actually visualize this.
We have an example from Stranglethorne Veil,
and I've added to the bottom left
a visualization of the light that's bouncing in the world.
Not the sunlight, but just light that's bouncing.
And you can see as the light bounces around, it picks up so much green.
You can see the little patches of red and brown from the path.
As we go down deeper into the jungle, you'll see how much naturally it gets dark
from the light.
And you'll see patches as the sunlight punches through
and picks up more of that color that's coming through.
This allows our artists to craft the style, the lighting that we want in
the zone and as we place objects into that environment, they're more naturally
reacting to how everything sits.
Yeah, yeah, I get it.
Sure.
Here's another example, this time,
from the border between the Barrens and Ashenvale.
And this is time lapse footage.
So you can see how our global illumination system changes
as the time of day changes.
You'll see is how light starts to come through
in the screen right side.
You'll see it has more and more light
bounces around the scene, picking up colors
from the green leaves, red leaves of Ashenvale,
and just filling in those shadows so much more naturally.
Yeah, wow.
So as you can see, in our world,
our light comes from the sun or other lights that we place.
And then the rest of the dark areas
are filled in by the sky
and light bouncing around the world
from our global illumination system.
Yeah, sure.
And we built a custom ray tracer,
built on a mix of existing ideas and new technologies.
And we're very, very proud of it.
But those amazing things is, while we've designed this and it runs on our recommended hardware requirements,
we've been able to optimize this and this runs completely on our minimum hardware requirements as well.
So all WoW Forever players get to enjoy this.
That's actually really good. I feel like optimization is a lost art.
Now, as we travel down the South Fury River here in Azara, it's a natural place to go to our third set of technologies,
water. All right. Water is another rendering technology where we wanted to bring more life
to the game.
Where the water at?
And there's a few characteristics we wanted to hear. We wanted to work on the movement
of the water from waves and the flow of water. We wanted to work on the color, enhance
that, the look, how light hits it and the transparency when light comes off it. And
we wanted to work on the reflections, how and what water is reflecting. So, let's
Let's first talk about movement and I'm gonna have some examples played through to show some of the controls that we can do that we can use
This is an ally. We did have some movements in original while in vanilla, but it wasn't quite what we wanted
Now we can control the size of waves whether we might want to adjust that based on the size of a body of water
Whether it be a lake or an ocean or the depth of water
We can adjust the wind
There's only shit in every zone and so we can pick that up and react appropriately
Mm-hmm, right
And we see all these things that come together to give the different kinds of water life that we want
Yeah, I got it
Another type of movement we have is the flow of water and you can see we did have some simple kinds of
Flow or movement in the water, but didn't really flow as a river
But now in Laos River, we can have those rivers slow down as we want them.
Let's see it.
They move following the path of the river.
They bend around rocks and land formations as they hit rocks and creates foam.
Yeah, that was a lot better.
It has some cultural quality, so we can see as it interacts with the environment.
Uh-huh.
Here's another example.
in the Red Ridge Mountains, and we see how big this river is, how the water completely
flows around. And our artists have full control over this, even against gravity, because we
actually have some magical rivers in Azeroth that go uphill. So yeah, because it's because
of magic, right? Yeah, look at the look of the water. And again, we'll play some examples
of the controls that we can have. And we work with art to open up. Yeah, that
Really good. Oh, wow. What the fuck we even had some artists do some paint over to show
Jesus to be able to change we can affect the density of the water and
Cowlite is absorbed and all right all right objects underneath the water
We can change how light is a freck reflecting hitting the surface of the water
Mm-hmm and a different depths to be able to control the color to give us whatever kind of body of water
We want from murky crystal clear
And all right on to our last part. Yeah reflections
Again, okay, we didn't really reflect anything at the beginning. No, it's just that yeah
Sorry, I have time-lapse footage here so we can see even as the time of day changes. Nothing's being reflected
Right, but as always if we look here in mile forever now
We can probably reflect our entire environment with us. We can see it as the time of day changes
Yeah
Reflecting we can see it with the ripples and the movement of the water was this like walk my dawn and all put together damn
Now I should also mention we can also
Reflect mm-hmm the Sun and the moon that would make sense
We can see again how it was at the beginning uh-huh and now we can get these yeah, yeah
that's good so that covers just some of the rendering technology we've been able
to introduce into a while forever uh-huh so there's so many more areas we've been
able to work on but let's look as we put it back together Matt
oh thank you Jason how about that one is actually good yeah it was really good
holy fuck man one thing I want to emphasize is that this isn't a filter
or a switch that we just flip on and everything looks magically different.
We went in and meticulously recreated the lighting and the atmosphere from the ground up.
We took our original 1.12 vanilla debug client and used it as reference, as our ground truth.
We stepped through every single time of day, from midnight to 2 am to noon to sunset
to humaning everything and tried to match and recreate the original
vibes. Yeah, I wonder what it looks like with that brain.
Now, how about we go through that process together and build our own
zone. So let's bring back our old favorite dust wood. Yeah.
Whoa. All right. So here we have dust wood. There's no lighting,
no fog. We just have flat models and textures. Like I said
before this is our foundation of wild style. So let's turn down the lights and
just add a little bit of moonlight to the scene. Here you can see it's dark if
you're a fan of really dark lights and wow. Oh yeah. This is probably what you've been
looking for and you know I think it looks cool but it's not playable it's
a little too dark so let's bring in a bit more light. No. We're gonna bring in some
lights. Those are lights that go on all of our different sources our
windows or torches or lanterns.
It helps provide some visual break up,
some color distinction,
and honestly it just looks really cool.
I don't want to be able to see anything.
Let's bring in that global illumination
that Jason was talking about.
Our moonlight is hitting the ground,
it's bouncing, and it's lifting up our shadows a bit,
adding a bit of color.
But we're missing a whole other component.
We need some fog for our scene.
Let's add a base layer of fog.
So as you can see here, just adding in fog makes the entire space feel darker.
Your ability to perceive details in those dark areas just gets completely vanished by this thick fog.
Now, let's bring in some of the light scattering that Jason talked about.
Okay, let's see how this works.
So now, our moon is actually illuminating the fog, giving us those creepy god rays.
It does look a lot better.
So now let's add some movement, some variation to the fog.
We're going to bring in some noise to create that creepy, eerie, moving mist.
But we're not done yet.
So we're going to add in a little bit of ground fog to really amp up that spooky vibe.
I want to see what it looks like when it rains.
That's what I'm really curious about.
It's being done, but now we're going to bring in some of our post-process effects,
some bloom, some color correction, really push things, right?
It looks cool.
It's crunchy, it's vibrant, but we've probably gone a little
bit too far. We probably moved beyond what I would call the wow style. We have too much
contrast. Can't really see what's going on. So we're going to pull things back. Make sure
it's aligned with an authentic version of dust wood. Alright, so here we calm down
some of the saturation, turn down some of the bloom. Things are looking pretty good.
So let's check it against our original classic version of dust wood. And now let's flip
the back to wow remember. We still have Darkshire. It's still creepy. It's still moody. It still
feels like the place that we remember, but it's really pushing that haunted spooky tannisy.
But there's one step left that every artist should go through when lighting his own, and
That's taking the player perspective.
It's really easy to light one shot like this
and make it look cool,
but it's important that we run around the game.
Oh yeah, yeah.
We look at all the different areas
and make sure things are working well.
All right, so now we get to see the game.
Like Jason mentioned,
here in the open and in Darkshire,
you got a lot of moonlight,
but as you move into the forest,
as they stand with the trees that are overhead,
there's gonna be less light that bounce around.
Things are gonna get darker.
Things are gonna get stickier.
Yeah, those make stitches come come come.
You might just want to find a torch to carry along with you.
And as you can see here, as you walk out on the farms and the fields,
we've got more fog, we've got more creepiness.
Who knows what mysteries you're going to find.
Now, this is the approach that we took for all of our zones
in WoW Forever. Like I said, we went through, we tried to authentically
recreate the look, the vibe, the mood, the atmosphere, all the characteristics
that make up these familiar places.
And I want to assure you, it's not just pretty sunsets.
Every time of day has a different look,
a different feeling.
As long as it's authentic to the original,
I think we did a pretty good job.
I think it looks really good.
I do.
Yeah, this is good.
All good.
Let's wrap it all up.
So as we wrap, Matt and I want to acknowledge we didn't do all this, just the two of us.
We had a very dedicated team who were so passionate about crafting all the creative artistic decisions
and all the underlying technology that brought all this together.
A lot of that team is here today, so we'd love it if you give them a round of applause
because they're here in the audience.
You think they let the AI do the work?
Maybe, yeah, it's totally AI generated.
Yeah, AI game.
We are thrilled that we got to share our effort on evolving the look of WoW Forever, and we're
so excited for you to be able to go and experience this yourself.
We hope you got to play the demo while you're here at BlizzCon.
We hope you get to play the beta when it's released next week.
Next Thursday?
Yeah, yeah, I see 17 of them coming here.
We are so excited for you to enjoy it when we launch WoW Forever on November 4th.
There it is.
Because you find your own visual surprises in our timeless world of Azeroth.
All right?
Thank you all for coming. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you championship is coming up next. So feel free to stick around
Great, so uh
I think that was really good. I like the I like the changes that make
I do I think that people probably weren't like hi Thomas brought to you by
People are probably not like hyper impressed by that in some cases because we've seen like unreal five demos that are kind of the same
but like you know for the wow engine and then being able to do that and also not
require like a 4090 for it I think that's really good I do I think it's great
this is the classic I wanted yeah it seems like they have a good frame of
reference for like what they're trying to do with the game so do you get your
copy of my tradition no I did not actually I need to just get it from
somebody else so yeah main stage is next panel well I think is there
another panel like beyond this I thought this was the only one let me
double check found photographs what is this oh I didn't even know about this
one holy shit okay so this one's right about to happen and this is the main
stage okay damn yeah I didn't even know this holy fuck okay let me see and that
is I'm not super interested about hardcore I'm probably not even look at
that but we are going to look at this obviously and yeah there's even more i
didn't even know that okay so there's one more that we're gonna look at and yeah
what is easy tech tone throwing the glove at you a dust hunt oh i saw him
talking shit I did I saw I'm talking plenty of shit I know very well people
coming back especially those of us don't want to raid with you what should
we do oh my god I mean like right now like we don't have we're not gonna
to do any kind of planning or anything like that. What we're gonna do is we are just going
to play the fucking game, man. We're just gonna play the game and see how things go.
And if it works well, this is apparently where I think it should be. And it said this
is gonna be on the main stage, so this should be over very soon now, right? And are you
gonna make a guild though? Yeah, I'm gonna make a guild. I'm gonna make a, you know,
like a care I'm gonna do everything right I'm gonna make a guild we're gonna have
multiple Olympus is it's gonna be the same as it was you're gonna do a thirsty
I don't know what that is and you and us are gonna be able to play together I
don't know because of latency I'm not sure but we'll have to wait and see will
Gus be there will Gus be I hope not but he probably will yeah there's a high
probability that Gus is probably going to end up being there even though we
don't want them to be there. Well, we have special Olympus. Yeah. I mean, we are going
to have, I'm going to make Olympus and whatever happens after that is up to, is up to the
players, right? And that's it. Do you think there'll be woke quests? I mean, I'm sure
they'll probably try to add in some kind of like gay thing into a quest. Yeah, I could
pretty much expect that to happen. And can you invite jigsaw again? The best thing
about things like jigsaw is that they happen totally organically. So I knew that whenever
we were doing the classic Wild Guilds, I knew that there was a high probability of that
happening, so, yeah.
And I kind of let that happen.
What ruleset?
I will probably just play PDP, but it depends on what everybody else is doing.
But yeah, I'll probably just play where everybody else is playing, and that way everybody can
be on the same server and nobody has to decide.
So I'll kind of wait to see what everybody else is going to do and then just go with
that.
probably just be a PvP server and that'll be it. But yeah, are you afraid of getting ganked again,
like in Classic? No, you just, I mean, because really, I mean, like I, I mean, like you can always
switch layers or have people help you or, you know, just stay in the city or something like that.
And also, like, I mean, like I like playing on a PvP server when I'm not on, what do you call
it, when I'm not on stream. And it's like, so if it's annoying for me to stream, I just
stream something else, right? So, like, getting ganked is actually good. Well, I don't mind it,
like, if it's happening occasionally. But, like, if it's like, that's all that's happening, it
becomes bad. But it depends on what happens. You rage out a lot about it. Well, yeah, that's
because it happened, like, 50 times in a row, right? And, like, that would be annoying for
sure. But outside of that, you know, in stream sniping people is against the TOS. It actually
is so like you know maybe they'll do something about that but I don't really know. Do you think
War Mode is good instead of PvP servers? No I think it's fine actually like I don't really have an
opinion on either one to be honest with you. Do you think uh yeah what's the difference between
doing gank and getting farm? You don't get farm? Well I just I want to be able to again like I
mean I having like people following you around everywhere you go whenever you're playing
the game in order to like intercept you like that's a very different dynamic than you know
encountering somebody that you pvp with organically so yeah that's really the way I would look at it
the mega server thing we just pick casual stuff or a pvp is going to be nice yeah something like that
definitely should I try while seriously and I love doing dev guild wars near booty bay yeah
Definitely
Look, I see play wow she said that she might she messaged me she was like I I forgot what would she say like
I saw a while forever today not gonna lie. It looks really cool. I might try it
So we'll see what happens
Yeah, we'll see what happens maybe and you're gonna make her heal. She'd do whatever she wants, right?
I'm out give a fuck
It's all one server. Yeah
And I'm going to make her, yeah, I'll make her a, a, a, a, a, a repelative.
You're saying a woman is a choice? Well, I'm only sometimes, right? It's a, it's a false choice.
What games does she normally play? She normally plays, um, uh, like Maple Story,
and she's been playing Blacksmith Wukong a lot. Would this be a good time for
somebody to play it? Has there been a player before? Yeah, I think so. I mean, classic
wow is like it's extremely approachable. It's very, very, very approachable. So like if you are bored
or you don't really know anything that you're going to do, just playing this game will be very
easy to do. Like it's not hard. It's not really complicated. Like being good at the game is like
not really a big deal. It's a pretty simple game really. Now obviously like better players
are going to get better results, but the baseline to get those results is pretty fucking low,
right? It's kind of like Elven Ring, right? Or it's like if you're really, really good
at Elven Ring, you're going to be amazing at it, right? But even if you're bad at Elven
Ring, there's like so many ways to beat the game without even trying. Is the idea forever
going to be in the static state forever? Seems like the ideal environment. Yeah.
Definitely. I agree. She plays Warrior who gets on Sark Gertle. Listen, listen.
Whoever has master with her gets on salt grinnell like and and I'm gonna have master with her
Like we're gonna just man. Actually, I'm gonna have somebody else to master with so I don't have to think about it
She's gonna play classic maple story. Yeah, she is she's like really excited for it. She wants me to play with her
What should we ask with DPS hunter no problem. Yeah, well like I remember there was the meme right where it's like
Demon hunter was or not demon hunter regular hunter was like he was either played by people that are under 12 or over 60
Right because it's like it's basically made for people that don't really know what the fuck is going on
You'll play for like a week. Oh maple story. Yeah, probably
Like I don't know if I'd like it or not. I mean, I'll have to go and find out and see what happens
Thanks for pushing Blizzard towards this
I mean like I think a lot of people have really and people have wanted this for a long time
And the quest watch has still not ended. Okay. So after this is over
We're gonna be able to get uh, you know the new
uh the the wizard not wizard thing uh the warcraft terraria i need to do that too
i wish there was a lone hunter viable spec oh with like no pet uh yeah i mean i think that'd
be a cool idea sure but also having a pet as part of being a hunter so but also maybe being a hunter
isn't that way for you i'm not sure turn the audio on i'm not a big fan of like a roleplay
Anything I just I don't I don't I don't really do it a lot. It's like to me. I just find it to be
Just too much right? It's just too much for me. So yeah, you watched a 40 minute terraria documentary
Did I I don't remember doing that. Did I do that? I have no idea
Contra has a lone wolf talent now. So I was pretty much 2d Valheim. We'll have to try it out and see
Yeah, go warp outside exactly
Why do we never see Kaisi? I keep her in a cage. Yeah, there's no reason to let her
out during stream because she might mess something up or, you know, interrupt the
stream or annoy me or something like that. Yeah, yeah, you keep her in the box.
Yeah, she's just what's smart, right? And her choice? Yeah, yeah, she likes it
better that way. It's better for everybody that way, honestly. And
Don't shock her. No, of course not.
That would be horrible. Imagine who would do that?
Oh, my God, that's gross. Oh, no.
It feels like I'm an adult around the time I was body-fucked.
Yeah, I mean, again, I to me,
I am of the mindset now with the game that all I really want to do
is just play it, enjoy it and get involved, right?
Like, I don't want to expect that this is gonna be my next big game that I'm always going to play,
and I'm never gonna not play anything else.
Like, all I wanna do is just play the game and just enjoy it.
That's it.
Like, I'm not- I don't want this to be some crazy, oh my god, this is gonna be my new big thing.
No.
Just let me play it, and I wanna enjoy it, and that's all there is to it.
So, yeah, play as casual now?
I mean, you can play a game hardcore without allowing the game to emotionally compromise you.
And I think that's kind of what happens is that games like this usually emotionally compromise people.
And it's, I mean, at least sometimes the people that get really invested into them.
Like, you saw, like, how people were with Classic.
Like, they would get mad about you doing anything in Classic.
So, yeah, Methodix saying, can only take one hit.
I have. I played the expansion just a little bit.
and I played Season of Discovery a little bit, and then I stopped.
But I am wishing that I had that game that I can log on to, and just...
Like, that's like my default game.
Like, when I'm on my computer, I'm logged into that game.
Like, did you guys ever do that in a while?
You would just log in and not even do anything.
You would just log in and run around Stormwind once,
and then just like, see what's going on,
and then just go back to like, checking on like,
YouTube or looking at something else.
Like, that's always what people would do.
So like I'm waiting for like that what that's I need another game like that right another second home
Like I know it sounds gay, but like it's true
Like I another like little place that I could do because like right now
Like that game like for me it changes, right?
Like for a long time like that game's been where winds meet then it was weathering waves for a little while
I played neverness to everness and then it was final fantasy 14 and then it was new world
And like I would just log into the game and have it running in the background and that was it
Yeah, I forgot all about lost Ark
Yeah, true. Why is it not retail? Wow. I
Don't think it will you've grown out of it
Well, yeah, I mean maybe a little bit. I don't know
Do you see a new armor for more wins me? I already bought it. I already got it. I
Got kind of unlucky. It was like took me a lot of pulls to get but I did get it
I need to recolor it so it looks like solid black though
When do we get it from software MMO? I think that if dustbloods does really well, they might do something that's similar to that
The first two months of lost Ark was amazing after that not so much. Yeah
People searching for a second home are often missing the first one
You sure you want to idle in a second home as a goal. Well, yeah, it's a nice thing to do whenever you're on the computer
Yeah, and like I this is gonna sound like really stupid
But I feel like whenever I play video games, I'm always, um, like I'm always thinking about, like,
doing multiple things at a time, right? So, like, I'm thinking about, like, okay, well, like, if I'm
only doing one thing on the computer, I feel like I'm not productive and I'm not being, like,
productive at all. And I think it's actually like a mental illness. Like, it's a bad thing,
but it's something that I've done just so long that I don't know if I'd ever be able to
undo it will you try out gay forever no I wouldn't want to be gay forever at least
not me definitely not forever though right maybe not relevant but the check
the elections in Sweden what happened it might be really funny to you I don't
know what happened what happened with the elections in Sweden I have no idea
how's this a Warhammer 40k tabletop this is like some overwatch thing like
improv that they're doing. So, yeah. Elections aren't done. Oh, okay. I see. They'll be done
within the hour. Yeah, I'll watch it after this and take a look at it. Have you ever
played Call of Duty? Yeah, I did. I mean, I think everybody played Call of Duty. I
played Warzone a lot. I loved Warzone. I want to see you get through FonFasty 14
Yeah. Yeah, sure. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go do that as soon as possible, right? And
Okay, yeah
We lost the elections or is that a yeah, I have no idea
The truck zone yeah blackout was way better than warzone dude. I hated blackout
I remember train would get me to play blackout. I played it for a while with them, but like I just
Dude, I thought warzone was so good
I thought Warzone on release was one of the most fun games I've ever played. It was fucking amazing
What if I was this overwatch presentation? They're doing so it's like some kind of
Like tabletop game that they invented for them to go and I don't know
Like I I'm not a big tabletop gamer. Honestly. I'm not I'll do it as a performance
Because I think that it's it's an entertaining performance to do but I would never do it as like something that I
engage in privately I would only do it as like an entertainment thing does that
make sense right it's like I wouldn't do it for fun but I would do it for content
we can start pushing everyone to vote we're gonna get Democrat Congress oh
she's I mean like people are gonna vote or they're gonna vote right have you
done any more Warhammer not yet no and I'll do another one later on the
critical role guys sell out like 10k theaters doing this oh really do
Yeah, I really don't know. I mean, I didn't know it was that popular honestly like I didn't know it is critical role still around
Let me look that up. I mean we've got a little bit of time, right? I can do that
Yeah, I mean it seems like they do pretty well road of dreams. I mean like
Like 600 K views
for a four-hour video? That's actually really good.
Yeah, I'd say so.
They lost a lot of viewership, did they?
Well, let me see what their popular videos were.
Oh, wow.
Some of these have, like, five million views. That's crazy.
Holy shit.
Wow.
Yeah, seven years ago. So it seems like they were really popular back then.
And...
Well, this one popped off. Oh, I guess this is the first campaign, Episode 1, right? So then most people would watch that.
I see so the most popular ones logically I mean I think this kind of makes sense
is it's the first episode that it trails off over time post COVID numbers yeah I
think a lot of people have had that happen oh is this it oh shit did it just
end I think it might have yeah it looks like it did
All right, let's get ready.
Let's get it.
Let's get it, let's go.
They have co-op friends in online game show, they have a show. Yeah, it's nuts, man.
Yeah, I didn't really pay attention to any of that stuff, it's just not really...
It's not really my kind of thing.
They have their own streaming service, so good for them.
Hopefully it goes well.
I have no idea how well or popular that is at all.
The campaign was too much, I got bored of that.
I just, if I was gonna do a D&D campaign again,
I would have to make it to where it's like streamable, too.
Because like streamable games, like it's very different making something streamable
versus making something entertaining for like another type of viewer.
Like, YouTube videos are different than streams.
They have two TV shows, holy shit.
Critical Role stopped being about D&D and that's some kind of care home for voice actors and theater kids.
I don't know, man. Look, I've never seen it. I have no idea what it is, okay?
So, again, I've watched, I remember, I think it was Terry Cruz was on Critical Role,
and I watched it for five minutes and I was very entertained.
And other than that, I haven't seen anything about it ever
You know what the guilds doing a comeback reunion movie. Oh, that's a that's an old one
I remember I used to watch that show and
I
Like it. I did I was enjoyable
enjoyable.
These are years that you use Pathfinder, switch to DND, 5e is better for streaming.
Yeah, I have no idea.
Say, streamable, you mean the way in chat can affect the campaign?
Well, what the hell is this?
To me, what mattered the most was being able to, let me turn this down, what mattered the
most to me was being able to make sure that people don't get lost, right?
like if you miss an episode, you aren't like, oh, okay, I don't know what's going on. So
I'm not going to keep up with it. So like the best way to do it is to like make it almost
where it's like multiple one shot events, right? Yeah, they could just roll players. Yeah,
I again, I don't know anything about it. So I'm not sure. True. You can't be racist
and in your D&D campaign on stream. Oh, can I? I'm not able to. I don't know.
I could, but I mean, not any more than, than, than usual at least, right?
Do you recommend any other streamers that have the same political view for you
whenever you play WoW?
I don't really think about people's politics whenever I play a game,
unless like a person's like a really big nutball, right?
Like I just don't really think about it.
I mean, it's the same as movies, right?
There's actors who's like, they're politics.
I think they're stupid, but I think they're good actors like Robert
De Niro or like Pedro Pascal or something like that. So I just don't even really consider
that or think about it at all. So like, I don't really have like a list of people that
are like approved fucking base streamers. Not really. I mean, I don't know.
Yeah, Mark Ruffalo. Yeah, I think he's a good actor. Definitely. That's a great example.
And yeah, I wish your D&D campaign with McConnell and Rich was so good. We might
do that again, right? We might do that again. We'll see what happens. Did you
know you can get married in MapleStory. No, I was not aware of that. Why are you telling me this?
And you can separate the art from the artist? Yeah, I mean, and I think in some cases, like if
you, the problem is that a lot of people like to bring their ideology into what they're creating.
And I think that to an extent that can be okay. But it just means like it depends on like what
the ideology really is. Like, is it a clever ideology, a funny ideology, or something
that's interesting, or is it just like weird, like one dimensional garbage? I think that's
a Jeff Zepkei. I mean, I don't really know a lot about Jack. Like, I mean, that Charlie
Kirk thing that he was saying, I thought was like, definitely like total loser behavior.
But again, I'm not going to go and be like, Oh, wow, this guy is the worst person ever
because of some one joke. I mean, that's really about it. I mean, my opinion about
all that stuff is that if you if you want to make jokes about stuff or say
anything either all of it has to be okay or none of it has to be okay it's like
I was saying earlier you have to either be okay with 9-11 jokes and also
Gaza jokes or you have to be okay with Charlie Kirk jokes and George Floyd jokes
you can't be okay with one but not the other that's how I look at it here
Here we go.
Move on.
Alright.
It's just two guys.
Two guys sitting on a chair.
We're going to get a little cozy for this one.
Yeah.
So welcome to the Found Photographs Panel.
channel. My name is Josh Greenfield and I help lead the content and narrative direction
forever. And my name is Evan and I'm the lead content designer on the World of Warcraft
Classic Team. Today we're going to dive into our team's approach for developing the content,
stories, and characters within this world. I can't get things off by talking about
the setting of WoW Forever and how it fits into the larger World of Warcraft narrative.
put, WoW Forever begins at the same time original WoW begins. The game contains all of the original
press content from the original game and builds on top of it. We will expand upon events, characters,
and locations that exist or could exist in the original WoW timeframe to further flesh out
the original world. This is before Kazek reopens the Dark Portal at the start of the Burden
crusade bad guy we traveled to north rin to stop arthas and wrap of the litch
real bad guy our focus on this year one period of wow's history and we intend to
occupy this space and expand upon it indefinitely okay cool so definitely
wow is called found photographs yes what do we mean by that that's the Lincoln
photograph that you guys from the world that's in in our earliest
conversations talking about adding new stories in our season of discovery
game mode of WoW Classic.
The simple idea behind Fyre photographs is that most of these new stories are things
that could have happened feasibly during the vanilla era of Azeroth's history or again
year one of World of Warcraft.
For the Classic team, it also refers to how we approach the stories as well.
For many of those stories, we also want to maintain original WoW's focus on what
we call local stories.
This is things along the lines of unraveling mysteries and motivations of the defiest brotherhood
and helping Tyrion Fordring rediscover his lost purpose.
This ground level view of localized stories is what makes the world of Azeroth feel large
and textured.
We are building these stories just like we used to in the early days of World of Warcraft.
We will have big epic narratives, but we'll tell these stories at the ground level
and large linear campaigns that focus on major warcraft characters
aren't really our focus.
Good.
So, what opportunities does the found photographs approach afford us?
The first big opportunity, and my favorite
as a long-time wow-lord nerd,
is the ability to glow up existing but perhaps underutilized characters
and giving them an interesting story.
Since the former paladin, Gregory the Truth Bearer,
raised in the service of the Scourge as a death knight.
In Warcraft III, he was a minor named Paladin NPC
that went by the honorific title of Sage Truth Bear
and was only featured in a single mission
in the Scourge campaign.
We continued his story in Season of Discovery
and fleshed him out as a character greatly,
bringing him full circle back to the light.
This is the kind of blow-up we'd like to pursue
for other characters in WoW Forever.
We'll also be able to see characters who were active
but off-screen during vanilla.
Do it for Gareth O's, but make him more racist.
Mole, the Earth Fury of the Earth and Ring
is a great example here.
He was the leader of the Earth and Ring,
but was largely absent from original WoW.
He will be present in WoW forever
and have a role to play in new stories.
We also get to visit places
that may have been hinted at or mentioned,
but never got screen time.
Or maybe we go to places that we,
maybe have seen in a version of WoW,
but were presented in a much different way
than we planned to feature them.
And while forever, the magical city of Dalaran is a great example.
Dalaran has always been seen as a flying city in the sky in World of Warcraft, but it wasn't
always flying in the sky.
After being destroyed in Warcraft 3, Dalaran was rebuilt but existed underneath its protective
magical barrier nestled in the Arthurac Mountains for several years.
And while forever, we'll get to see Dalaran in all of its freshly rebuilt glory as part
of the world.
and maybe we'll explore why the protective barrier around it is no longer present.
This segues into talking about the continuity of WoW Forever.
The million gold question I'm sure a lot of people have when it comes to WoW Forever
is how does it fit into the larger WoW continuity and timeline?
And the short answer is that WoW Forever does not exist in the same continuity as Modern
world of Warcraft. That is a really big deal. That is a very big deal. Well, the main impetus
of this approach is to ensure that we have the creative freedom to do what we want to
do without creating problematic situations that require a direct response in the modern
game. This does mean that this does not mean that the current authors are being right
up in the foundational lore, especially the established events from the RTS games.
We aren't going to suddenly say, in this universe, Jaina was a dreadlord all along, or Arthas
never became the Lich.
Our approach to the new stories we add is to paint inside the lines of established foundational
lore as much as possible, but also to build on how it comes next in a way that makes
sense first and foremost for WoW Forever.
And to continue on to that thread, let's take a look at our content goals for this
project.
This is good another multiverse and coming up the world and discussing we already have a sue we tend to break down the content into three categories
The first is the anticipated yeah, hi types of things everybody knew where the things that yeah
Did not exist in the original release or may have been inaccessible at the time
The example shown here is not high Joe which we've added as a new experience as a new zone for you to explore at higher levels
Yep more on that in a minute
These are the comfy and the expected, the wish fulfillment of seeing some of these places
that you were aware of in the original release but we haven't been able to explore yet.
Exactly.
Yeah.
If there's a piece of well-known content you really want to see, the chances are pretty
good it's on a whiteboard back at the office or perhaps even in production right
now.
It seems like that's the case.
Yeah.
True.
The second type is something we call a new but familiar.
War Song Gold II.
These are the areas with new concepts or stories that are grounded in locations
or with characters that hearken back to the original WoW
and our early RTS games.
These types of content are the things
that may surprise players, but really feel
like they could have been here all along.
Our goal with this type of content
is to craft experiences that add depth to the world,
but fit seamlessly with taking inspiration
from the rich history of Warcraft.
The third type is something we call the unexpected.
These are new concepts and often
involve places or characters that
exists within the Warcraft narrative.
That's the stuff that we complain about.
That's what we complain about.
We plan to introduce sparing players.
When looking at this category, we
want to be very mindful of what we're adding,
so not to upend the world, the stories, or the characters,
while still creating the experiences that players
want to enjoy.
One of our goals for this type of content
is to ensure that it makes sense within the greater
fabric of wow forever.
Naturally.
So to continue building on that a little bit more,
we've talked about where this idea of found photographs
comes from, the types of content that we discuss as a team,
and the inspirations in our approach
to developing these experiences.
So let's take a deeper look at some of the new content
that you can play in a while forever.
Let's see it.
Pep battles.
Whether you're starting your journey as an orc
in the Valley of Trials or a night elf in Shadow Glen,
there's something new just for you.
New NPCs might greet you in your journey.
They might offer you quests.
and others may offer you training in skills and recipes and professions,
and that's only the beginning.
Part of our team's journey throughout this development
was to incorporate flavorful additions
without, as Josh mentioned,
taking away from the classic experiences we all know and love.
Overall, we've added dozens of new quests, characters and stories
to each of our new starting zones,
along with additional content in every zone for your journey.
And of course, with new stories and new adventures
comes new rewards. Each of these moments along the way was handcrafted by an incredibly passionate
team of individuals with the same love of this world as each of you.
Like what? The boat, the boat, right? The boat, you see the boat?
Let's talk a little bit about boat travel. Yeah.
Once you've leveled up beyond your starting zones, you'll find not only new content, but
new means of world travel throughout the world.
This is an area our team spent a lot of time discussing.
We really wanted to maintain the exploration and your journey as you navigate the world.
But we also wanted to offer you ways to explore and change the way that you play.
So what do we do here?
What do we do?
As you can see on the screen, some of the locations might seem familiar.
total we've added three new ship routes, encouraging exploration, questing in new areas
throughout the world, and really leaning into the opportunities for social play, which is
an incredibly important pillar for this project.
So the Stormwind Harbor is going to have boats on it now?
The first image you see here is a connection from Stormwind Harbor in the Harbor Dean.
Humans and night elves and you dwarves and melons in the audience who are deep run
tram enthusiasts.
Now you can rejoice.
You can now play with your friends throughout starting zones together, whether spending
hours or perhaps avoiding several corpse runs, reaching one another.
Yes.
The next we have is a three-part stop.
This new route begins from Menethil and then on to South Shore before arriving in Aberdeen.
Cool.
The last here is located in Steam Weedle along the eastern shores of Teneris.
Now, when Josh was talking about found photographs, we're often asked about the world itself,
the characters and locations.
These can be questions like, you know, what is the Steam Weedle part held enough
to?
expanding their operations and where might the ship take us.
And perhaps the ship takes us to somewhere new.
So thanks to our friends at Steam,
Weedle, our new adventures await across the sea
in a brand new zone.
And today, our team is very excited to welcome all of you
to the River Glades.
That looks nice.
That looks like a classic cloud zone.
That's good.
The River Glades is an expansive new zone, roughly the size of Stranglethorne Veil, with
an expected level range in the mid-30s to mid-40s.
It's like the biggest zone in the game.
The zone itself was built in an area that existed in the classic world but was previously
inaccessible.
Yeah, what the fuck?
And so we decided to fix that.
I didn't even know that.
When you enter the zone, the first thing that you'll notice is the incredible level
of detail our artists and world builders and sound designers put into creating a zone
that fits seamlessly in the world.
For those of you who have played through Red Ridge Mountains, the new fork to the burning
steps awaits your new journey into the River Glades.
While this zone has diverse biomes and creatures throughout, it also blends seamlessly between
each of the nearby connecting zones.
These null camps that you see on the screen here, they're not just a presence, but
a continuation of the world's story.
Now, when we talk about integrating content, it's not just about carrying the stories
These were creatures over from one zone to the next, but it also presents opportunities.
This is one of our new POIs, where an Ogre Clan has established their presence, and in
questing, you'll meet them and other characters and factions along the way.
In total, we've added nearly 200 new quests to the zone, with stories for both Horde
and Alliance players.
Jesus, too.
Questing is going to be way easier now.
It's going to be crazy.
You'll experience new cultures throughout the zone, like the powderfused goblins
who run this powder-fused port, and enemies like the Twilight's Hammer, whose presence
is felt throughout the zone in areas like Sunniglade, a callback to Warcraft's history.
Oh no.
That's crazy as fuck, yeah.
Launching your adventures from areas like Rogmar for the Horde, and Farhold Keep for
the Alliance.
Oh, yeah.
See, I told you it wasn't Strong Guard.
The brotherhood of the horse.
What idiot retard thought that?
The River Glades is a blending of inspiration from classic historical events, new beginnings
and stories integrated into our living world.
And most importantly to us, it's a love letter to all of you, to our players and to those
who brought this world to life more than 20 years ago.
But this journey doesn't stop here.
30, 40 years later, a lot better.
Beyond our new zones, we've spent a considerable amount of time going back to our roots,
in zones like the wetlands among many other areas in the world.
Part of this journey was simply to explore the possibilities
without taking away from these areas and what already existed.
Smart.
And for areas like wetlands, we found opportunities to build
on the characters and the stories within without disrupting what exists.
For wetlands, we've added all new content, including over 25 new quests
and providing new opportunities to discover new stories
and characters and new leveling paths in your leveling journey.
Whenever you had to go, there's a warlock in wetlands.
Alongside areas like the wetlands, there's also updated areas like Nesilis, where new
Centaur faction quests await.
Also included new rewards.
And this led us to another discussion about breathing life in these spaces that weren't
used previously, but they were waiting for us for a moment that felt like it was the
right time to create something new.
For new stories to be told, and now if you continue your Centaur questing journey
and make your way all the way down into the south of Desilis, a new journey awaits.
Oh, even below Desilis.
Oh, yeah!
Yeah.
Added gender loss to the south of Desilis to the valley of those.
That fucking rep from Dire Maul.
This new area offers...
Remember those rebrands that you would get?
... to explore the rich, rich, deep history of Elderful Loss, its stories and their
people.
We felt it was important to bring this zone to life, and the stories we want
to tell that made sense within the fabric of WoW Forever.
We felt it was important to include Mount Hyjal as one of our new zones, and an opportunity
to explore new stories that make sense within this project.
Here you'll explore the aftermath of the battle for Mount Hyjal, you'll meet new factions
and build relationships along the way, you'll work with new allies, and you'll encounter
all new enemies and areas throughout the zone.
an old anime I've seen him before.
And throughout this experience, you'll start to see where this journey leads you.
Oh, uh oh, uh oh, there's an evil deal.
Let's talk about one of our new race and class companions, the Forsaken Paladins.
Bullshit! Bull motherfucking shit. Fake.
So, while Forsaken Paladins are far from our only new race and class combination,
we did want to take a few minutes to give them a bit of special attention.
Not real? Yeah.
This is an especially exciting part of the lore for us, and I'll admit, as a paladin made myself,
it's something I've been waiting to jump into for several years.
No.
The story of the Forsaken Paladins rolls directly off of the new Warcraft 3 campaign, Forsaken Kingdom.
Bullshit!
This campaign deals with the initial struggles for the Forsaken to find their footing as a people,
people while the threat of the Scourge and the Scarlet Crusade looms.
We don't want to spoil too much of that campaign or the story or the character, but suffice
to say there's some direct connective tissue that we will explore in WoW Forever.
When WoW Forever begins, we find the Forsaken Paladins at a time where they are deeply
mistrusted by the other Forsaken.
They should be.
You have to imagine that if you were an ordinary Forsaken citizen, the only thing
you know of paladins are organizations like the Starlet Crusade who have made it their
mission to torment and destroy all undead, including the forsaken. Making matters more
complicated is the fact that some former paladins who are raised into undeath don't
take the transition well. The act of channeling the light is almost maddeningly painful
for the undead, which is why it is so hard for some to adjust to life as a forsaken
palette. Some of these maladjusted souls will lash out, attempting to destroy or torment
other Forsaken until they themselves are put down. So when we find our Forsaken Paladin
heroes at the start of WoW Forever, they are facing an uphill battle to get the rest of
the Forsaken and by extension Sylvanas to fully accept it.
Yeah, killing each other is a good idea.
One of the new locations we'll visit in WoW Forever is Bandarion Keep. This keep
is in the formerly unreachable northwestern area tears tearsful glades called the whispering
way all right yeah paladins will be directed here around double ten to start familiarizing
themselves with bandarian keep and we're saying this is playable region from this
location and of course no paladin is a true paladin without their trusty speed fuck this
shit. And the Paladins are no exception. Also, Forsaken Paladins will also embark on their very
own epic mount. Turn it off! Turn it off, bro! No, no, no! Turn it off! Whereas the Alliance Paladins
claim their epic charger in the name of redemption, Paladins the Forsaken write in the name of
retribution. Now that we've had a look at some examples of that anticipated in a new
book. What a bunch of garbage. Let's take a look at something new. Fuck this man. The
Skyborn and their home in the clouds. I think it's best to start talking about the history
of this new race. The Skyborn are a race of high elves that call themselves the Shindor
or the hidden people. Their history starts in the ancient kingdom of Eldrathalos, which
we now know as Dire Maul in the immediate aftermath of the War of the Ancients. A group of concerned
citizens united to oppose Prince Dorfeldron and his plans to harness increasingly dangerous
amounts of demonic energy to sustain the Highborn of Eldrathalos.
He did so much damage, bro.
just seen the destruction caused by the War of the Ancients, these rebels rose up against
the Prince to try and prevent him from completing his grand design and throwing the kingdom into
darkness forever. The rebels' interference cost Tortheldron dearly and prevented him from
realizing his full plan, but it was a period victory, and ultimately the rebellion ended
in defeat. Forcibly calendar to escape the terrible wrath of Tortheldron, these
These wayward elves spent years on the open sea, pushing ever westward into the unknown.
Eventually, the rebels ran aground on an undiscovered land ruled by ancient primordial elemental
spirits.
With Tortheljan's fleet close on their heels, the desperate elves were forced to strike
a bargain with a group of wind spirits who lifted an enormous land mass of this island
into the sky in order to escape Azeroth entirely.
powerful elemental magic, these wind spirits anchored this floating island in the realm of
air, Skywall. Safe and hidden from the vengeance of their pursuers, the sky at Boren spent thousands
of years building a small but vibrant civilization hidden in a corner of the elemental plane.
The elemental plane has been a core part of Warcraft history since the earliest Warcraft
I remember when the fire went into various realms and other versions of World of Warcraft as well.
For a while forever, we were excited to go to Skywall and experience this place through it slightly differently.
The Shindorai as a people have gone through many changes over the past 10,000 years of existence in the Elemental Plane.
Much like their high elven cousins who settled in Quel'Thalos, the Skyborn developed their own unique physical characteristics
after being suffused with the magic of Skywong.
Yeah, they have a bunch of hoes.
They are an agile than their cow-door-eye ancestors
and the magic of the elemental plane
has had other effects on their physical characteristics,
such as hair color, eye color, as well as skin tone.
I feel like they're so vibrant.
You gotta add in new options to the characters.
Skywong have been thrust abruptly into crisis.
After thousands of years living alongside
their elemental benefactors,
They have said that the wind spirits have suddenly vanished for the first time.
It's arriving in Skywall.
The Skyborne must now fend for themselves.
The absence of the wind spirits has also thrown the magic that holds Scott
Zephyrus together in turmoil.
It's only a flushing pile on structures that anchor Zephyrus out into the realm
of Skywall and begun to falter and fall into disrepair, causing portions
of the island to fall into ruin and darkness.
In this period of turmoil, several factions have gained traction and are vying for control of Zephyr Syle.
The Wind Shapers are the shamanistic spiritual leaders of Zephyr Syle,
and they are one of the playable factions of Skyborne.
This is the faction that will ultimately side with the Horde.
While our Skyborne on both factions can be warriors, druids, hunters, and robes,
only Wind Shaper Skyborne may be shaman.
This is to reflect the deep connection that Skyborne shaman have with the elements and
the now departed wind spirits.
By contrast, the High Order are the more pragmatic and forward-thinking faction, and they see
the departure of the wind spirits as an unprecedented opportunity for the Shindorai
people to truly be independent.
And this is the faction that will ultimately side with the Alliance.
The members of the High Order are the proud descendants of the Highborne Magisters
who joined the rebels when they fled from Elja the Lost.
And thus, the ability to play as a mage
is respected to High Order Skyborne only.
Lastly, we have the Alaketh.
The Alaketh are a cult dedicated to the worship
of Alakir the Windborn.
He's a bad guy.
The Windspirits rarely spoke of Alakir
in their time with the Skyborne.
Oh no.
Look at the elemental lord,
something of a taboo mystery.
He's bad.
Some among the Skyborne, however,
were able to use their shamanistic sky site to peer across the elemental plane and gain
a glimpse of the terrifying might of this elemental lord.
Tempted by power, Gearshawdorah broke with the rest of society and dedicated themselves
to the service of Alakir.
Remember people wouldn't know where to go.
Included by the departure of the benevolent wind spirits, the Alaketh have risen to
prominence, using the crisis to stoke fear and seize control of a large portion
of the island.
When we find them in WoW forever, they are an ever-growing threat to the already fragile piece.
So all the bald ones, we just kill them?
So while we want to keep most stories firmly grounded on Azeroth, we felt it was important
and exciting to be able to explore Skywall a bit more. And a starting zone is a great
opportunity for that. Zephyrus is not a major fixture in the world, and it's very self-contained.
You aren't going to go here every week to raid or to find materials.
This is an example of how we plan to sparingly and respectfully
create new and totally unexpected content in WoW Forever.
Okay, that makes sense.
So before we wrap up talking about Zephyrus,
I want to call attention to the screen.
So this is the final in-game map of Zephyrus Eye.
Here is the original sketch that Chris Metzen drew up for Zephyrus
after our first meeting talking about the concept.
It was very stoked, and he sent this to me very excited.
As someone who remembers reading the original WoW,
or original Blizzard game manuals,
and seeing Chris's sketches in these,
I can say it was definitely a surreal and geek out moment
when he sent this over to me,
and we thought it would be cool to share with you guys.
I'm gonna be honest, like that is really cool.
Yeah. Yeah, that's cool.
Thanks, bud.
So speaking of sharing,
we thought it would be fun for us to go on a little adventure together.
So we are going to go off script a little bit,
and we're going to dive into a conversation between the two of us,
and a few thousand of our closest friends here today,
and we're going to talk a little bit about the development of WoW Forever.
And so to kick that off, we're going to jump right in with a full-range sheet.
We're Josh. Tell me a little bit about how the learnings from Season of Discovery were
applied to this project.
Yeah. So in Season of Discovery we did a lot of work to try and tell stories in a very
classic way in a way that felt very diegetic to the world. And I mentioned earlier talking
about blowing up existing characters like Gregory the Truth Fair and Annas the Vindicated
And following their stories as they sort of, you know, there was a backdrop of this legion
invasion and they came together to rediscover the light together and save off that adventure.
Well, whatever story is at the current level, focusing on those characters, that is very
quintessentially vanilla.
And it was something that we leaned into heavily.
We studied a lot of original WoW.
We played through all of these classic questions we knew and loved to create those types
of stories.
And we want to bring that forward into WoW Forever.
A lot of the quests from Season of Discovery are things that we started in Season of Discovery
and carried forward.
Speaking of the journey that we were talking about earlier, can you tell us about the
development journey of something like the River Blades?
so grounded, it's so vanilla-wowed.
Absolutely.
Where do we begin?
I'll take you on a little bit of a journey,
a little bit of behind the scenes about our development process.
So when the zone was, we're first looking at zones,
what areas do we want to develop for this project?
And there was this piece of land on the eastern shores of the Eastern Kingdoms,
and it had never really been developed.
It did exist on the map.
If anybody wants to go look at that, you can find that.
And that started a discussion.
We have a lot of them in our team.
Was that the only person?
What could we do with this area?
As soon as Cata Prepats came out,
how stories from the source always tie into this,
whether they're connected or other areas of the world.
And that led us to World Builders,
coming up with a couple ideas for the zone.
It started as a few different biomes.
We weren't sure if we wanted to have it be one single zone.
It's a very large zone.
It's about 30 chunks, which is roughly
the size of Stranglethorn.
And ultimately, we did land on making it a single zone.
And that led to a lot of other discussions about, now that
we have our zone idea, what kinds of stories do we want to
tell?
And that was a very long discussion, a
months, months long discussion.
And we whittled down about 10 or 12 ideas, I would say,
to a handful.
And those ultimately became some of the stories that all
of you will get to experience in the River Glades today.
Yeah, we bounced a lot of those off of Chris Metzen
very early on and he was really excited to kind of revisit some of these places that we've
seen in the earliest Warcraft games even for a single mission like someplace like Sunny
Blade.
Super cool.
Yeah, the Bengal Tiger exactly.
You know, continuing on the topic of the journey, Evan, why don't you tell us about,
you know, how we went about choosing which level bands to include new concept.
Because that was something that really...
Well, there is.
When people were searching around the world.
I mean, duh.
No surprise to anybody here with a lot more discussions.
What we do is we have discussions all day every day.
It's great because it gets us thinking about why do these decisions matter,
how do they impact the player experience for something like Riverglades.
A lot of it really came down to that we wanted to provide players not only a new zone to explore with new stories,
but a new level band so you don't have to stay in the areas that you're already familiar with.
And that's part of the journey that we wanted everybody to be able to take on their own
or you know if you want to explore the new areas you can if you want to stay in the old areas you can do that as well
That's good blending and the blending of the stories from one zone to the next
Brigade is going to be sick.
Also, come on by with a level-bending for the spaces so if you're in Stranglethorne you want to level there, break
If you want a little bit of a break you can now go experience an entirely new zone with hundreds of new quests for both factions
and we're not talking just only about Riverglades as well when we look at areas like Wetlands and
Spoilers there's some areas of Northern Kalimdor that might have new questing as well
Well, all of this is intended to help give you more opportunities to not only explore
these stories, but change the way that you level.
Yeah, not have to do anything wrong.
It's just some of the solved thing for some time, and we wanted to give you different
opportunities to play the way that you'd like to play.
Yeah.
Being able to redo that journey and seeing it through a different lens each time is
really exciting.
And, you know, it's been a joy to level a bunch of different characters on our
internal tests and kind of take a different route.
You know, I think, vanilla players, right?
we kind of have a route we like to go. It's the comfy, kind of butt groove in your leveling process.
And we sort of, we were able to kind of upend that a little bit. It was a lot of fun.
So when we're talking about, you know, level banding and all the zones that we want to introduce
all the new content that we're going to create, tell us a little bit about
I would always have my exact way I would do it big story moments.
Yeah. So, you know, I talked a little bit about telling stories in a sort of vanilla way
or a classic way. I think one of the things that we all, I'm going to speak for everyone
a little bit here, I'm sorry, and say I think the things most people agree is awesome about
original WoW is the mysteries it created. I don't know about you guys, but I remember
in like 2006 watching, you know, a grainy video of the first guy to go through Scarlet
Monastery with the Corrupted Ashburner on his back, right? That stuck with me.
He talks to Fairbanks, he learns about Darian Mograin and Outland.
And then he shows up and he comes through the fucking cathedral.
I feel like wondering where that was going to go and how that was going to play out.
Warrior tier three.
I think the unfortunate thing about 2026 however is that a lot of those questions in
the intervening years have been answered.
And so what we're really trying to do with something like WoW Forever is create
opportunities for new mysteries for everyone.
you know, how did the brotherhood of the horse end up in the river plains?
Like, what was their motivation, how did the the Boulder Rock ogre clan, how did
they end up, you know, they were a part of the twilight's hammer a little bit
spoiler, sorry, and how did they end up on their own? And what will that mean
and their interactions with the whore? I don't know. And so creating those new
mysteries is really important to us. So when we're talking about all the
stuff and you know we're in the office and we're talking about ideas and we're
planning for current and release and the future spoilers it provides a lot of
opportunities so the last question I wanted to ask today with Josh no pressure
what does the future hold for a while forever oh boy yeah you know I think if
you're you know if you pay to win the beta next Thursday feeling a little
adventurous maybe you might want to try do a little bit of a corpse run to
the entrance of a place called Grim Batal in each year, that was the one I was curious
about.
If you end up there, you'll notice a, maybe potentially notice anyway, a much larger red
dragon presence outside of the, the, that mountain, I'm not sure, they're actually adding
that shit.
That's about, I don't know.
Yo, what the fuck?
Anyone have opinions about that?
I don't know.
Damn.
All right.
I think you hinted at this a little bit, Evan, but talking about some zones that we've
also added more things to, such as the Shara.
We haven't talked about it a lot.
We gave a Shara quite the glow up, too.
There's a lot of new places.
Good.
That zone was dead.
I will say, though, there's a crater-sized hole in the content of that zone.
And I'm wondering if maybe at some point we might feel that.
Yeah, that would be cool.
Yeah
Holy shit, man, that'd be awesome
You know that about reps at the time we have for today
We hope that all of you enjoyed this discussion
They had to stop them before he kept leaking things to invite all of you to come play this yeah, bro
I was rough on behalf of cut it off and Josh the classic team and the world of Warcraft team
Thank you all very much. Enjoy the rest of your blizzcon. You can't wait to see you in out
Yeah
that was actually really good yeah I feel like that was great what do you guys
think MSI guys are good yeah step in upgrading your visual experience MSI
QD oh I feel like all that was good built to last brilliance ahead gigabyte
release the further files I grant yeah for sure I'm just really hoping I'm
just hoping it's gonna be good bro I'm really just hoping it's gonna be good
Like if this game is good, I am gonna have like so much fucking time. I'm gonna play this and played a lot
I will like I'm looking forward to it man. Mostly good mostly cooked on the L with the elves
Yeah, I mean like the they could have reckons put put Skeletons we kept their prints. We got the high elves
I mean, I don't think they wanted to do that because it was Warcraft 3 lore, but um
Overall, I think it's good, right? Well alliance or we're probably gonna play alliance and are you streaming beta on Thursday?
Yeah, of course. Of course I will. Absolutely. Are we so back? We're back. I'll tell you that. Yeah,
we're back. I'm going to play it. We're going to see what it's like. Thoughts on stream beta access
on Thursday? I think it's going to be awesome, man. I'm going to try and get 30 on the first day.
I'm just probably going to try to half and half it, maybe just get it over three days.
The beta is going to be out for a while, so I'm not going to try to rush through everything.
I'm just going to try and play it and take things as they go, but I do think that I'm
going to have to play a Undead Paladin after I do my Warrior.
I think it's going to be really interesting.
I think it's going to play the new Warcraft 3 campaign.
I didn't plan on it, right?
I didn't plan on that, but maybe I'm in Who Knows.
You should have some playing PewDiePie's Heroin release.
I'm going to play what people want me to, and I'm going to decide then.
So yeah, and what is this here?
Take McConnell's loot?
Yeah, of course.
And PV this time around.
We'll figure it out.
Like, I'm going to wait to see what everybody else is doing,
and then probably just do the same thing.
But yeah, I mean, all the news and everything about it
seems like really good.
The best piece of news to me today was no servers.
The best news to me was no servers.
And there would be no.
Yeah, this was just fucking insane.
Savics just confirmed that there will be no world buffs in raids for wow forever
So no world buffs. I mean like again my opinion on world buffs is like, okay
Like I get why they're getting rid of them. They do contrive gameplay. I'm like really half-and-half on it
I think world buffs have like a really big positive, but there's also a net they're too man
Yeah, they're too strong like I I get it right I get it. I understand
So, yeah, sure. World buffs don't belong in raids. You got to admit though, doing a raid with all the world buffs was pretty fun, man.
I'm curious they plan to just ditch the PvP restriction if you can go PvP servers. I have no idea.
Hopefully you can make characters on both factions, though.
Huge W, good for them for making this call.
Positive change is they didn't need to function like SOD, where you can get all the world buffs you can cast on your raid,
or remove them completely, lame having them summon around the world just to get random buffs.
Yeah, I mean like it was cool. It was a cool unique thing for classic
But I do think that like it does it as I said it contrives gameplay it does and as much as I
Like this he also would research the sentence from what I understand. Oh, yeah, maybe that's true. I don't know and
Yeah, what is this here if it's true the biggest ones in my books love to see it
And I thought buffs should be wiped never use zone into an instance. It's super fun leveling at 10 with the onyxia buff
Yeah, it is like I remember whenever I would get it as a rogue. It was like, oh my god
like I'm just fucking I'm a god right
World buffs just for characters under 60 would be nice. Yeah, I think if they do that
They should make the range of them larger right and that way more people get them
You know she have to complete the raid without it first as a guild then the guild can unlock a quest to world buff once a week
That seems like it's too much work, but you know like again
I'm just glad they're doing at least something right so asking a classic player what flavor of elf they prefer
Yeah, true. I'm not playing if we don't remove this race. I mean, I hate gnomes of the passion
and it's not on my classic by version of classic plus with gnomes in it. Yeah, true. Fuck gnomes.
Gnomes are stupid. And talking about meeting and summoning stones. No, I would assume
they're probably not going to have them, right? Because meeting stones and summoning
stones dramatically change the way that you interact with the world, at least like I think
it does. And if you don't know of supremacy, yeah, I would say so in general. And what is
this? Can I find the other share here? And any interest in doing a true story of asthmago
cataclysm since the wild hype is up? I mean, it would be the right time to do it.
It would be like I would have to get everything together and censor out a tremendous amount
of stuff. You guys have no idea how much stuff would have to be censored out, but I'd have
to censor out everything. And then after that, then yeah, maybe it would be time, right?
Because I never really did that. And how popular was the Wrath of the Lich King? True story
of Asmongold, 1.3 million views. Oh no, this is... Oh my God. The true story of
Asmongold, Wrath of the Lich King has almost 10 million views.
Oh my God.
I didn't even realize that.
Holy shit.
What is this?
It is. Man, this goes out now because we're at the Lich King, though. Yeah. I mean, it
was a really, really good time. Like, I'm just I'm going back and looking at some of
this like, oh man. And I remember this girl, it was really funny. This girl, she kept
getting in this argument with this other shadow priest and she was 16 and this
Russian guy that was in our guild was like because people are tired of hearing
the arguments that this guy would have with this girl because they were both
priests and so he was like did you know that when you argue with a 16 year old
girl you sound like a 16 year old girl and there was never another public
argument and vent ever again that was it was it ricksa it was ricksa yes I think
I told the story on here it did and that was it and I'll wake up yeah he was the
guy that got the first wargway of a vasin off and dude that was oh my god
bro like look at my face I felt so good about that oh my god
Crip has some money hate each other. Yeah, it wasn't a GM the Talos of that. Yeah, it was something right
It was really really fucking funny man, and yeah, we really had a lot of fun
We we had so much fucking fun playing the game and
God damn I
Remember all this oh
My fucking god. This is awesome
Jesus man and then this is no. Oh, no
Uh-oh, uh-oh, uh-oh, the Stormrage Signet Ring, and look who's the Master Looter!
Uh-oh!
Oh wait, wait, wait, no, never mind. This is whenever I ninja-looted the Warglave.
Oh, that's right! I forgot about that. Yeah, that's why I ninja-looted the Warglave.
And, uh, yeah, I remember that. That was a long time ago.
And, uh, this is me. Oh my God, I got fucking- oh, man.
Yeah, there's there's the girl Cora from the other day I was telling you guys about so
This was like a really really long time ago, so like I had a dream and in burning crusade. This is really really bad
I had a dream and burning crusade that I
Was looking up at my character and I was dual wielding thunder fury and sulfurous hand of ragnaros
And this was before Titan's grip was even announced so like this would be impossible to do in the game at the time
but I had this dream that would happen and so I finally get both of the weapons, right?
And like I never forgot this dream for like three or four years
And I kept farming molten core and trying to get these items and it took a long long time
It was a vision right? I had it wasn't a dream was a vision and
And I finally have this fucking I finally get both of them
And you know like the font and the text and everything that people would do like whenever somebody like you know
There's like hood t-shirts
Remember somebody gets shot and they make like a t-shirt and it says like you know with us forever in heaven
And it's like you know 1995 to like you know 2005
You know he died like a fucking gang war at 10 years old
So fly high right and so I had this same text like the the fucking curse of text
And it said sometimes it was like the dots and then it said dreams come dreams do come true and like dude
I posted this
Fly high, yeah!
It's all English, yeah, dreams do come true.
And, uh, sounds like it was promised to you, it was.
And I remember, I forgot which of those I had been deluded, I have no idea.
Oh, and this is, this is us whenever we had played, and we did, um, that fucking, the boss in, uh, what was it?
This is the Scepter of the Shifting Sands questline, Moz, in Ashara, and it was the only water raid boss that you had to fight in the water.
So, yeah, it was a long, long fight. And look how good I look, by the way.
Like, I mean, I totally maug everybody. Like, I was fully decked out in my gear. Like, I just looked so good, man.
I looked better than everybody else. It wasn't even close.
Not gonna lie. I'm sad we didn't even miss this. Yeah, it was a really really good time man. It was and
Holy fucking shit. Yeah, I uh, oh
That's me and my mom and I remember yeah, so
This is so she would do she would do Raven Lord runs with me every single every single day
Because she was a druid so she could summon the Raven Lord
so I would finish my raid and obviously you can see that like you know we're in this is like early old war and
And you know because like that's why you'd have that weapon at the time and
You know like so sweet we would do it and I finally did get them out and so later on
the world's a drainer or collectors edition came out and it was it gave you like the
Like the super Raven Lord the flying Raven Lord and at the time
I only had enough money to afford one collectors edition and I bought the collectors edition for her as a thank you
Because she had helped me get the Raven Lord
She had helped me get the Raven Ward that many years ago.
So yeah.
It was a, we had a, we had a really good time, man.
We really did.
And that was whenever we got immortal.
This right here, by the way.
I remember I kept accidentally quote accidentally linking this into trade chat.
Oh, I oops, wrong chat.
Just to fucking flex on everybody. We were the has been gold and this was this was the peak of has been gold
It was this was the absolute peak us getting immortal was like the biggest fucking deal man
It was such a big deal was your mama raider or she yourself exploring she really was not much of a raider, but this is
Again guys like there's a reason why Blizzard never really invited me to a lot of events or anything
There's the reason why I didn't get invited to a lot of things and uh, yeah.
So it didn't really work very well, right?
Based.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, there it is.
No, you're going to stream on Aspergill when you play the beta.
Shut the fuck up.
I'm just going to stream on here.
No, I'm not going to do that.
We needed the re-in interview.
Oh God, I remember that the what's sword and uh, that was funny.
And uh, yeah, we supposed to end up snorting.
Yeah, we had that one like there were so many bad names that I had for a while like I had like there was I the guild name I had is called Helen Keller versus traffic and then it got renamed to the Alabama wife beating squad and then it got renamed again and then like I had you know buck fizzard
Then there was ol' cock and balls, preach around,
let's see, besides that, Crack Monkey,
which I didn't even, like, whenever I came up with that name,
everybody is like, oh, it's a racial thing.
It actually wasn't.
I just thought it was funny,
because I thought gnomes jumping around
would be like a monkey jumping around on crack.
I was like 17.
I was actually so innocent, I wasn't being racist.
I think that people wouldn't believe that for me now,
but back then, it actually was true.
So, yeah, and, uh, it crushes, you know, Western magical.
I don't know.
So that's not to creep.
I haven't talked to Crip in a long time.
Honestly, I haven't.
And, uh, yeah, let's see here.
How many times the Blizzard pull you aside for a talk?
Surprisingly many.
So, uh, yeah, anyway, I'll look at some of the other stuff that's happened
because, uh, obviously there's been like a ton of shit that's just been
going on recently, obviously, and, uh, we'll do as much as we can about Lindsay
Clancy.
There's a juror who's literally going on every news channel, uh, like she's
some kind of celebrity, the same that doxed the holdout identity.
Oh my God, really?
I'll have to go and pull this up and look at it.
It's so fucking embarrassing.
Check her tweet.
Check what she's saying.
She didn't say anything.
This is his revenge for me making this?
Well hey, at least I don't have a shot collar on.
By the way, this is Photoshopped, okay guys? This is not real. It's Photoshopped. I don't know where this came from.
have no idea what the hell this is at all. This is a completely fake image and
too much hair. Yeah, I actually look good as a dog. I do. I look like a really good
dog. I didn't even realize that until I saw myself as a dog. But yeah, I feel like
it looks good. Yeah. Maybe I should be a furry. What do you guys think? Should I
be a furry now? What breed are you? I think I'd be a golden retriever. Yeah,
Yeah, you know, like, I feel like I'd be the best one.
Asmon fur? Yeah, give it a ooh, yeah, exactly.
Like, yeah, why not?
And, okay, let me go and look at a few of these here.
And, oh man.
And, hypocrisy appeal being upset
about George Ford names, not Charlie Curran.
I'll look at this real quick.
But, yeah, anyway, what about the yapper dogs?
I don't know about that.
But, that's for our, oh God, okay.
You're gonna you're gonna hit the stake and you're gonna get mad at I don't give a shit
Okay, I I think I think that if people were rational and if we treated the jokes equally
I think that these jokes are all dog shit, or they're all good
Yeah, but you don't get the pick and choose if this is the kind of worms that you want to open
I might say oh, I don't they need to accept all of them. Okay. What if some guy, okay? Okay, let's let's have a new
It is a new meme.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's a new meme.
Hello, George Floyd, wanna get Floyd?
Yo.
Whoa.
Whoa, whoa, okay, well,
so why is that not okay?
Right?
What was George Floyd's favorite song?
You take my breath away.
Come on, excuse me,
you've gotta do better than this.
That's okay, explain it, explain it.
Come on.
You won't be able to.
You won't be able to.
You guys act like I care, I don't give a fuck.
I think they're all okay or they're not okay.
But if you accept that they have a joke,
you're gonna have to say all of them.
And I don't think that people want to do those jokes
only when they're gonna do it then.
And I think that's bullshit.
But what we're doing is being soft,
is that people set the ground rules for what it is,
but it's really only for others not themselves and it's that's bullshit man
i don't really know
yeah it's because they agree with it that's why and uh... yeah
there it is is tribalism
and uh... what was the church for a listen listen i i can go through i can go
through a bunch of these
we don't need to it's not a big deal
but uh... yeah there it is really understood i know he's totally right
about this he is
And it's not cool now, and I have to do a Kirk joke to even it out.
Okay, I have to do a Charlie Kirk joke.
I don't have one that's like right off the top of my head.
Honestly, and that's the problem.
A lot of people's Charlie Kirk jokes is that the joke is that he died.
Like, there's not really much of a punchline to it.
Yeah, top of your throat then.
Yeah, I take my neck away.
I don't know.
I mean
Yeah, they're like yeah now that I'm really thinking about it a lot of the Charlie Kirk jokes aren't really that good
I do think that like so one of the things that I think is funny is when people keep seeing Charlie Kirk in AI
Because people have made so many AI memes of Charlie Kirk
Charlie Kirk has merged with the machine like Neo or something and like you see them everywhere
Like every AI rendition of something some of the frames look like Charlie Kirk the small face thing
I guess but like I don't know. It's because it's women coming up at the Kirk jokes. Oh, you know what? That's true
Yeah, and anyway
the AI one was funny. Yeah, definitely and
But no, I could go through and figure out some more of these but uh, yeah
I I think it's totally fine to make any joke of that. What is this here?
If you make fun of his dead dad, I mean again people are just like really really shitting on this guy massively and
Again, like I feel like it's not really that surprised. What is this?
Extremely is facing me dude backlash. What is this here? Stephen spawns as viewers can oh, yeah, I talked about this already
I don't think it's really that crazy. What is this was this another is this another one of the same thing?
It's all good. I definitely want to try it on screen though. Yeah, I think that would be fun to do a
to do a testing stream, and then maybe one day I will buy one.
So then people aren't worried about my driving because then there's no, there's no, uh, there's no,
what is it, wheel or anything. And I'm like, the car's driving itself. Phew, no more hate threads.
Incorrect. Tesla full self-driving is safe driving two out of five. And in order to
not be arrested for distracted driving in Texas, you need to be operating a vehicle
with autonomous driving that is rated four out of five. And Tesla cars do not qualify
for that. So this is an inaccurate analysis. It's just not true. It's not true. I ain't
true. Nope. We pull this guy up. See what he's saying. Why do you comment on subjective
things as if they were fact. What was the subjective thing that I commented on that you think, uh,
what is the thing that I said? What is it? No, I want to know now. You're confusing autopilot
with full self drive, full, uh, full safe driving. No, I'm not. Look it up. Yeah, just go look it up.
it's not hard that's a permit yeah it's vague bro like yeah it's kind of weird
that you would say that hold up let me remember what do you mean remember it
was a minute ago what do you mean what do you mean let me remember you said it
one minute ago did you forget you got Alzheimer's yeah what's going on man
Oh my god.
Stage fright, short-term memory loss? I guess so.
Were millennials bro be patient? Yeah, exactly. Like you're not that old, are you?
Jesus, man, that's bad.
Okay, well after this we've got to look at the uh, the fancy stuff, because I do think it is really funny.
So this woman's going around like she's a celebrity now? Is that really it?
Is that really it? Oh my God, how obnoxious. Jesus Christ, how obnoxious. Okay, uh, well,
let, let, let's see that. Give me, give me one second.
Yep. The guy that was being soft. What is this here? Yeah, he's saying the same thing. I,
I already went through this before. Hasan hopes he doesn't get arrested. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Give me
a minute. Let me, let me see if this person responded. Can I get two minutes to go back
You said sure we can watch the clip and then we're gonna go back to it
The son hopes he doesn't get arrested upon his return to America from Belgium
God what?
Rather fucking die than watch this. All right. I'm done. I'm too tired
Tomorrow's a travel day. Yeah
Tomorrow's a travel day ladies and gentlemen, I love you all I will be back
In the land of the free home of the brave
I'm saving you from a Bill Maher brain disease moment
I'll be back on Monday
Hopefully low energy
geez
Jesus
Jesus look at that. I mean this is just this is bad bro like
I'm not fucking arrested when I come back into the country arrested
Well, yeah
He thinks he's gonna get arrested. You're not gonna- what are you gonna get arrested for?
So what's so funny is that like I talk about him getting arrested
He loses his shit and then he talks about it as if it's like something that could happen to him
Well, what the fuck, man?
But shouldn't you know this better than me?
Uh-oh, uh-oh, looks like this person's not saying anything
Yeah, uh, what a surprise
He's scared. Yeah, isn't that crazy? That's crazy, bro
Like people love to just go and fucking, you know, like they always like to chirp, bro. They love chirping
They do they love love love to chirp, bro. Like this is just sad
It's sad, but the clip wasn't a full three minutes. Uh-huh, right. Okay. Well, anyway, I just I'm just gonna ignore it
I have so many other things to do. I don't have to waste my time on this shit
Okay, during her next media tour stop, Jura Paula Devlin says that a mostly female jury
knew Lindsey Clancy trial could create change to make it better for other women.
Oh good, so now multiple women can kill their kids.
Well, that's even better.
We knew that this was a turning point and this would be something that could change
something to make it better.
other women in the future for other families.
I love how it's something that could change something to make it better for women in the
future and other families.
Like this is the most vague thing that you could ever say.
This is the re...
Like you listen to this woman talk and your faith and jury trials goes into the fucking
negatives, man.
So she's admitting to being impartial, then.
Dude, the people that were on the OJ jury have come out and said, we did this
is retaliation for like a racial thing. Like this is just the way it is, man. This is why
jury trials are bad.
You know, justice for those children is this never happening again.
And Devlin also talked to me about the impact this has had on her own mental health. She
said during the week-song trial she would walk to a park or the beach during lunch and
she just couldn't bear to look at the families around her. She says, guys, she's still
having a hard time with that. Wow. Yeah, I asked her about that. And what's interesting is she
actually doesn't want to see Lindsey Clancy acquitted. She believes that Lindsey Clancy was
failed by the system and needs mental health help. So what she would like to see is Clancy kept in
that state psychiatric facility and to get the help she needs. She also said to me that it
would be an injustice to the Clancy children if their mother was acquitted.
here's the problem is that she's not totally wrong but you can't let her go to a mental
institution because mental institutions have rules that let people out too easily that's the
problem like we need to reform the way that we do mental institutions and the you know basically
putting people in mental institutions you can restart it she says something about the blade
Okay.
About what happened inside the deliberation room in the Lindsey Clancy trial, which gripped
the nation and ended in a mistrial.
First eight jurors wanted to see Lindsey Clancy found not criminally responsible.
Two are undecided and two wanted her to be found guilty.
But after deliberating for almost 40 hours, all but one agreed Clancy was not criminally
responsible.
There were times where everybody wanted to get out what they had to say because we've been holding things in for such a long time.
One week after the judge in the Lindsey Clancy trial declared a mistrial,
juror Paulette Devlin describes the intensity inside the deliberation room.
Yeah.
When we listened to the 911 tape, there were some jurors that just couldn't do it again.
It wasn't a sound that anybody ever had heard before.
Devlin says the holdout juror who she described for the first time on CBS Mornings is a holdout juror a person a
Black man. Yes wasn't following the law when it came to reasonable doubt
If he had shown us some evidence
Then we all would have been okay with that jurors. She killed the kids
for deadlock three yes you kill them after sitting through 21 she said she
killed them with over 80 witnesses and yeah 300 exhibits including the
exercise bands used to strangle the children remember the moment that the
jury sent a note asking to see the pill bottles the two bags of pill bottles
and the exercise bands. Can you talk about why? They would talk about all these pills so fast and
we're trying to take notes and you don't know how to spell things and you're just trying to see
how they were prescribed and what what there was. The exercise bands and came out in the
beginning. Yeah, to show evidence of her not being insane. He didn't have to do anything really
you do whatever you want. On jury duty, you just make up whatever you want. Like as long
as you don't get kicked out, you can come up with whatever reason you want. It doesn't
have to be logical.
Because we wanted to see the weight of them and how they work.
They also asked to see the knife. Clancy allegedly used to harm herself.
The knife.
One of the witnesses said that she hesitated, you know, and the prosecution was trying
to say that she really didn't try to commit suicide that her wounds weren't
deep enough. Right. So what did the knife tell you by looking more closely on it?
Oh. That was dull. Devlin says that Joe's felt the weight of this decision.
Even though we didn't know what was going on outside of our little bubble
that we were in, we knew that this was a turning point and this would
be something that could change something to make it better.
Oh, this is the part that we saw. Yeah, it's just so embarrassing
that this woman is going around doing constant interviews,
like she's a celebrity, because she tried to let a child
murderer off of off of consequences, right? She
went on CBS and then MSNBC and CNN too. Are you kidding me?
What the fuck is this?
Lindsay asked for help every way that she could possibly think of and she was failed on some
novels.
Oh my God.
And I think that's right.
Wait a minute.
Wait, wait, wait.
That's the same person?
Holy shit.
They actually are shapeshifters.
She's a witch.
You can see it right here.
She's a fucking witch!
She was failed on so many levels.
And we're just letting this go?
It's right in front of us!
We were so sad, people were in tears.
More than one person felt like we failed.
Knowing that there was doubt, and seeing that there was doubt,
we did the thing that we thought was right.
Not just not guilty, but not guilty because
she had a mental illness at that time
that kept her from understanding what she was doing.
was doing. Do you think this case should just go away? You dismissed? No. Our verdict that
the 11 of us had decided on is not guilty by reason of a mental illness. She's trying
to be like David Hogg. And he really feels that Lindsay needs to get the help she needs
to give some justice to the children. Lindsay asked for help. Jesus Christ. So she's
going on every place to get interviewed and everything like, oh my God, there'll
There will be no attempt to intervene in the Lindsey Clancy case.
Lindsey Clancy's attorney last week asked you to pardon her.
That's so ridiculous.
Is that your consideration?
It's a federal, it's not even a federal crime.
It's a state crime.
But it's, look, it's a very sad...
There is no winner there.
There's no...
There's no winner no matter what you do.
She's milking it?
Yeah, I know.
No, I don't know.
But it's actually a state situation, you know, not a federal.
to call the prosecutor in this case. I appreciate that it goes that way but I need to get a
good attorney. I hope that should work it out.
Is admitting that they were biased towards Lindsay?
I mean again like everybody knows what's going on right? I mean it's pretty fucking obvious
what's going on so I don't think there's really a lot else to say or go into or anything
else and what is this here can I find it and oh boy this is some more shit I just oh this
is Jacksepticeye virtue signalling over George Floyd not a big surprise and so much estrogen
on the jury big problem very big problem and Jesus man so let me go back I'll pull this
other stuff up and yeah let me scroll down and find the other comments and everything
that people have made over this too Trump just praised the lawyer does that mean
all the hags are gonna start hitting the lawyer too. I think that that's just the way he talks,
man. It is. It's just the way he talks. And if somebody gets mad over that, oh, by the way.
Voters in your state. Another one, bro. Another one. Voters in your state who are concerned
about your relationship with piker. You have condemned anti-Semitism, but not called out
his rhetoric directly. Why not? Because he agrees with it and he's also a terrorist
supporter of the same way that Hassan is. I don't know why it's complicated. It's so
obvious that's what he's doing. Do respect. This is the third time you've
asked about it. A Twitch streamer in California. A Twitch streamer in California.
If he was only a Twitch streamer in California then why did you ask him
to go? Why did you go on his show and why did you ask him to come up
in campaign with you.
Like what it's so dishonest.
No foreign events in Michigan this week.
You know what didn't come up?
Twitch streamers in California.
You know what did come up?
Grocery prices.
The fact that people can't see a doctor.
The worry that they have about the quality of air and water.
I'm not interested in having a conversation about streamers in California because they
are not raising the prices of gas and groceries.
I'm more interested in having a conversation about tariff policies and trade wars we
shouldn't be fighting about hot wars with Iran, about AI, which I know we
were supposed to talk about right now.
So let's actually talk about the issues that are affecting people.
Instead of getting distracted by whatever the president says we should be talking about,
their whole game is to make us fight culture war so that we don't pay attention to the
fact that the president has made...
Don't ever listen to somebody that says this.
Whenever they say that the culture war is a distraction, what they mean is that they
want you to ignore the current state of the culture because they view that to be
advantageous for themselves and not try to win the culture war.
See, the culture war is a distraction when it's in their benefit, but the culture war
is the most important thing when it's against them.
Don't ever listen to that.
Never anybody that ever says, if you think it's a distraction, then why not just acquiesce
on these issues and let the other people make the decisions for you then if they care
about it so much?
It's because they say that to make an argument to triviality to hopefully make
you ignore the issue that they actually care about.
2.2 billion dollars.
His family has made even more.
How about your family in Michigan?
How about your ability to afford the basic things?
How about the ability to believe that you could see a doctor without having to potentially
fall into medical debt?
Those are the conversations that people are having.
Those are the conversations I'm interested in having.
So yeah, I'm not all that interested in having a conversation about a trick streamer.
Forgive me when people can't afford their gas and their groceries.
Understood doctor, but Republicans have made it a big attack on you.
So I wanted to give you the chance to clarify, but we'll leave it.
yeah and it's going to continue being one right it will be
uh... we deport this full if it was up to me they'd all be getting deported they
would be like any of these terrorist supporter people like they'd be gone
so yeah that's it
and uh... is only five-foot-six i don't know how tall the guy is i have no idea
but uh... yeah what is this here
here
can i find this
were you born a racist internally or did it increase over time
the actual correct answer
i don't know you tell me
yeah i guess what about what about for you
yeah how's that work
so are you jewish
you're a jew lover
That's crazy. So why are you calling me racist? If all you spend all the time it increased over time. So now you just okay so now you really really hate Jews. Okay I get it. Yeah no that makes sense. So, um, do you like I mean doesn't it see that why do you think I why do you think I'm a big fan of the Jews what what makes you think that.
because like you're you're clearly like really really invested in this right I
mean like are my Jewish Goyam like what is this I'm a Jew lover like what
does that mean what why do you think that Zionist your agenda is pushing a
narrative what's the narrative
Why did why would I give a fuck about Israel?
Really why would I why would I even care about Israel in the first place?
Another projector we'll wait and see what he says, okay, it should be good
Another day another mention yeah
It's about me. I'm a Jew, really.
Do you really not even have any way to explain what your point of view is at all, other than just like point at the Jews and be like, look at them?
Is that, I feel like that's like so many of these people, like that's like their entire motive and like everything that they do is that they don't even try to defend themselves.
They just try to be like, but the Jews!
Are you not pushing an agenda right now? If I if I would I would deport every terrorist supporter
Do you know that Hamas was created by Israel they got funded by Israel and somehow they passed the border?
Okay, so let's assume all that's true. Let's assume everything about this is true
If there was in Israeli living in America that supported Hamas, what do you think I would want to do with them?
What do you think I'd want to do with them?
I'm just confused by this.
Yeah, how does this work?
It's okay, Israel's making them say this.
i mean i wish right
deporting is in the answer i mean i i don't know like i thought that i would
do i just get rid of them bro get rid of them
he's going maxing i i think this guy might be going maxing i think so
i'm dying who is this guy
Let me see here, I'm gonna pull this up.
Can I find this?
Or is he saying anything?
Have you typed anything?
You're not typing anything.
Okay, give me a second.
Let me pull this up and find it.
Twitch log, Hassan, hey Hassan,
have you ever gooned to Kamala talking?
I feel like a lot of people has done it,
so it wouldn't be weird if you have,
but I would love, I think this guy's just an idiot, bro.
Like he's just a fucking idiot.
So, okay, yeah, what the fuck, man?
You mean the best thing that ever happened in Israel October 7th caused the genocide to be mass accepted in the West
Yeah, they probably supported some narrative that's not pushing enough. You want to put the world against religion
That's a massive squit inequality. That was obviously trolling. I hope so
So let me let me so you're you're reframing something like I don't care about your Middle Eastern identity politics and war bullshit
I don't care about that. I'm an American citizen
What's happening in the Middle East between Gaza and Israel is not my concern.
I don't want to fund it, but I also don't want to get involved with it.
And I'm not going to make any decision in America that has anything to do with it at
all.
So let me go back to the original question and see if you can follow directions.
Okay.
What do you think I would do to an Israeli who is living in America who supported Hamas?
What do you think that I would do?
This is a really, really simple question.
I'm not Middle Eastern.
You look at America, and now come APEC's funding all your politics right now.
APEC is not the only funder of politics.
There are tons of other companies and countries that try to exert soft power, and also
buy politicians.
Do you think Qatar and China aren't doing it?
So in your world, do you think Qatar and China aren't trying to use power either?
Like I'm just so confused.
And this is not, it has nothing to do with it.
These people are like NPCs.
So why are you not able to answer the question that I gave you?
Is there a reason why you're not able to answer it?
So your narrative as Hamas is wrong.
Did you miss the point where Hamas is the best thing that ever happened to Israel?
I don't care what Hamas and Israel are doing. It doesn't matter to me. It's on the other side of the world
Like there's a civil war in Sudan that like fucking thousands of people are getting killed in I don't know who's right
Then who's wrong? It's not my problem
Like
What like I yeah, I don't this is it so your narrative is Hamas is wrong
Yeah, that's my narrative. Hamas is wrong and bad and they are a designated terrorist organization and
Anybody who supports them in the country should either be put in Guantanamo Bay or deported
That's my position
Actually really simple
We'll let this person respond back one more time then we have to we have to move on
We don't have time for this this bullshit all day. All right
This is a mass yeah, Banda Jew hater. Yeah, I mean this is it
But these people are like, dude, anti-Semitism going mainstream has been so bad for anti-Semitic
PR.
It has been because there's all these moron people.
Haas is very bad.
It's funded by Israel.
The main goal is to split the Middle East.
Now they've managed to do it and cause the whole world to accept the death of
civilians.
Why are there always Haas and never the civilians and the countless people getting targeted
today for being Middle Eastern?
Wait, who's being targeted today for being Middle Eastern?
Wait, yeah, wait, where is, when's this happening?
The countless people, we'll count one of them.
Yeah, can you count one?
What are you talking about?
Is this a bot? Yeah.
I mean, this has to be a bot, right?
I can count one the Christchurch attack
Yeah, I mean that guy's a psycho and it's yeah, he's awful. He's evil. He's a terrorist and he should be killed
Just like Hamas
To like
Duh
Like, yeah, obviously, like, what do you mean?
I'm so confused by this, it had nothing to do with Hamas, it was just random person.
What I'm saying is that, like, I'm consistent with this.
There's actually, like, a complete consistency with this.
Okay, one more, one more, we'll let this person respond back one more time before
we move on.
Chatter still hasn't answered the question that I gave.
again, it's that this is another person that creates the false choice between Israel and Hamas.
This is a choice that people that are supporters of this type of behavior like to do, right? They
like to create this false choice, but you don't actually never engage with a, never engage on
a foundation that is designed for you to like have to like, you know, it's like manipulative,
right? It's exactly, yeah, move on bro. Like, yeah, it's just that this is so exhausting to
have to deal with people. I will wait for one more comment, right? Wait for one more comment
before we're done with this. You're missing the point, the only world religion right now that's
getting targeted as Muslims. Oh, really? Well, what about all the Christians and Jews that
were killed by Muslims? I think they're getting targeted too. It's got mainstream
hate-taped Muslims, you're pushing that narrative? I'm not pushing the narrative. Like, there are
tons of people that I'm not pushing that narrative against. Abdul was unique because of the things
that he said. Am I pushing this narrative against somebody like Neon who's a Muslim? No, of course
not, because Neon's not a terrorist supporter. There are tons of people that are Muslims that
don't support terrorists. So this weird thing where you're using this religion that like
like two billion people have, you mean Charlemagne?
Charlemagne, what the fuck?
Charlemagne, like what does Charlemagne
have to do with this?
I'm so confused.
Yeah, I mean, like what are we talking about?
And yeah, what is this?
Aren't the Muslims killing other Muslims?
Yeah, there's, yeah, I can almost guarantee you
that the biggest victims of Muslim terrorism
is probably other Muslims.
Like I can almost guarantee you that
because that's who most Muslims are around
is other Muslims.
It's just, again, this is more, this is a huge problem.
By the way, Jacksepticeye edited out the Charlie Kirk segment.
You can literally see the cut.
Really? Let me pull it up and find it.
Let me see it here.
So this is the video.
And this is a full ass video.
All right, let's see it.
A four to take a bite out of moldy food.
Oh, he did.
Hey.
Yo, what's up?
You look hungry.
Today it is brutal. I feel like I could eat every five minutes.
Welcome to mad. Damn.
He cut it out.
Oh
Oh, man
That's a fuck with you again
You guys have way too much like emphasis and and desire
To try to involve like this is again these like these like Middle Eastern politics things do not interest me
I don't care about them like it's not relevant to me
So the moment that you start bringing up like some conflict between Israel and Palestine this immediately loses me
I'm I'm I'm an American. I have European heritage
I have no connection to that and I have no interest in being connected to it
So to the extent that you try to involve me in this or do anything you are just simply going to annoy me
I'm not interested in I don't care. That's it
Anyway, so he cut it out. Very embarrassing. Very, very, very embarrassing to cut it out.
And he knew, and like, again, you know, this is the wrong thing to say. Again, and this
just admits it, right? I mean, like, that's why you're going to cut it out. And I also
saw this here. I thought it was very funny. He should have at least tried to not make
her feel left out. Then meanwhile,
in your state. Notice how the responsibility was on the man to not be strong enough to
lift the rhinoceros instead of on the woman to not eat nine meals a day. In any negative
situation women assert that men are the only ones with responsibilities. In any positive
situation suddenly the woman did it all by herself. Man. Man, you know, like, yeah,
You don't have that in you, bro, like, fuck that.
Absolutely not.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah, no wonder he's going to do that to AI.
I don't know if it's AI or not.
I have no idea.
But, OK, I probably don't want to scroll down anymore,
but it's just really fucking funny.
And anyway, let's see here.
Can I find it?
Oh, boy.
All right, let me see this one.
In your office, there are a reflection
of your own experiences and what you think is very
interesting, what you pointed out
about that picture in Piker's office.
I have a framed New York post headline that says been lot and dead in my office because
I remember all too well September 11th and the people.
Now we're just okay, okay, hold on, hold on.
So you guys get to have framed newspapers, but I don't like what this is the level of
intentional misunderstanding here is like nuclear.
is nuclear level and intentional misunderstanding
the fuck is this take
i would frame
that shit too
also a consequential moment in american history
i have plenty of others as well as the storm on the uh... one i have the
hateful slate one
So, let me get this stupid.
It really is.
Well, that we lost.
So let me get this straight.
So she brings up the fact that she is a framed newspaper of Osama bin Laden being dead, something
that she very clearly and obviously supports and is a big fan of.
And then you justify having the 9-11 newspaper hung up by saying that you also have a newspaper
of Zoran Mondami being elected, that you also have.
So in one instance, this is a newspaper that is something that you are very happy and excited
for.
And in the other instance, it was something that she was very happy and excited for.
And then the logic would be that the 9-11 one, I mean, how do you like, this is,
how do you not like, there's no way he's so stupid.
He doesn't know what's being said, right?
There's no way.
Like, I mean, this is, that's insane.
And after his clipper revelations, people have been connecting the dots.
Let me see this.
I mean, that's, like, he's got to be joking around.
Like he's got to be intentionally misunderstanding.
Everyone knows the S.Piker Electric.
It's as odd as it is, oh, Jesus, I saw this before.
Yeah, he had to get rid of that.
He replaced that now with the 9-11 one.
I think, honestly, bring this one back.
Yeah, that one, somehow it's so gross, isn't it?
He misdirects, yeah.
It's like, yeah.
Well, oh, you have a newspaper or something
that you massively agree with?
Yeah, so do I.
That's why I have to deny 11-1.
Like, how is that not an argument that immediately
proves that you're wrong?
So that's just so ridiculous.
And anyway, I'll scroll down and look at a few more
of these other things that have happened.
And again, I saw this is also very kind of funny,
is that this university is now getting a bunch of shit and getting attacked because they have a
university professor on leave that is a militant racist, right? So you have this person keep trying,
loser, breaking account, they're deleting your account. Let me see here, can I find it,
unhinged professor problem? Let's see, although this is something else. Someone has asked,
Oh, this is yeah, that's something different, but what a shocker. Yeah
Yeah, tell me you fucked up. Let me scroll down. Yeah, and this is another racist person a racist black person
It hates white people really no surprise and again crashing out over it and
Hopefully hopefully people are hinting at violence against ex-QC. Really? What did you wrong? What did he disagree with them? Oh?
No, he must have disagreed with them, right
Excuse me once the fuck around like certain pieces of shit when he finds out I'm not going to pretend he didn't earn it
What?
Hello George Floyd want to get Floyd
Yo whoa
Well, okay well
So, why is that not okay, right?
But that's okay.
Explain it.
If you don't, if you don't adhere to our double standard, we'll kill you.
What a great argument.
What an amazing, great argument.
Yeah, that's really smart, yeah, okay.
Got it.
And I don't understand.
talking about like why it's okay to make jokes about Charlie Kirk but not George Floyd and this
person in a response to that is saying okay well if you if you want to think that then we're going to
kill you this is just it's insane right i mean like oh but there's no context yeah that's what he's
saying he's evil maxing is that what they said i don't know what this and uh oh my god
The Black Man Murb by Safe Islands and Racist Podcaster murdered by a random weirdo is a
Black man, not a career criminal, not a DUI, not a active criminal, not somebody who is
resisting arrest, but a Black man.
And yeah, I think that a career criminal, by the way, is certainly a lot worse than
a racist podcaster.
It's not even remotely close.
I don't know how you could not think that.
Happy fi- of course.
I'm wishing Happy Father's Day to Hassan.
This is a random...
It's crazy how Hassan can literally just operate a terror cell on Twitch, and it's completely
okay.
Like, I wonder how many of his viewers are going to have to be exposed as domestic terrorists
before Twitch says, hey, you know what?
Maybe there's something that we're doing wrong here.
Isn't that bad?
Spread so much joy equals murder?
Yeah, it's insane, man.
These people are crazy.
And I don't know what's going on.
Actually insane?
Yeah, that's what these people are.
But most dignity of that left them was it gets dumber.
Yeah, definitely.
This is fucked.
The racist piece of shit.
So this is what I find is so funny, is that these people have literally no problem
making every joke about Charlie Kirk, but you make one about George Floyd and actually
get offended. It's insane how a career criminal scumbag is in their mind supposed to be treated
with more reverence than a random guy that got shot for nothing. It's not like he got
shot for, you know, he was in a fight or something like that, or he was doing something
or he died in a war or died of old age. It's something that just shot him because
they were mad at him. It's crazy, man. It really is.
Floyd Odeid. I don't want to get into that. It doesn't matter.
But the point is that, you know, again, and you can't like that
personal comments because you're blocked. I guess, am I? Yeah,
yeah, a lot of these people do block me. I'm not really too
surprised, right? Of course. But yeah. That's like Nick
making you and the song trends going, well, I don't know
about yet, Nick. I have no idea what it's really been up to, right? No clue at all.
Check it out, BlizzCon Timealking site. I'm going to log into it tonight, but I haven't
checked on it yet. No, I haven't. And, um, okay.
I'm putting in the real work here for all of you. Two of your lights says this game
and trucks him really defined, chill, and interactive atmospheres, and that's remarkable.
Well, the thing is, I'm so happy that I now have that audience that wants to do that.
This gameplay driving back and forth for an hour is incredibly freakin' boring.
I think everyone can agree, right?
Don't feel like saying what I'm doing right now is interesting.
But at least we can hang out and talk when I do it.
Because I don't know why the game I think the game is fun.
It's not.
This is not fun.
He's not dead.
No he's not.
I was just kidding.
Oh is he not dead?
Are you kidding?
How is he not dead? Are you kidding?
Well, I guess I gotta repair that now.
The thing is that when somebody said that watching DSP is like watching a human
version of Homer Simpson, I really felt like I don't know if there's ever been a better comparison of anything ever in my life.
I don't I think that was just fucking perfect. Oh, please do another 30 minute session of DSP clips
Okay, we'll see what happens right by the way these people have been going on an absolute warpath by the way
So fun fact, we're canceling and deporting people who are here on visas for this
Nicole is going to deeply regret making the video. So these people are making videos obviously
right
so she's making these videos about like you know charlie kirk getting killed
far-left extremists here on a student visa from germany
michael thinks it's funny to post a video dancing on charlie kirk's grave
with the sound of him being murdered in the background
she's a student texas state university no one here on a student visa should
be celebrating political assassinations
the fact that this like i mean this by the way should have universal support
nobody that's in the country period
But nobody, if you're not a citizen,
dude, we have enough problems of our own.
Like if you're acting this way, buy Felicia, yeah, true.
Get out of here.
And so, yeah, not the smart ones.
I know, the Port de Nancy,
especially she's German of all people.
Yeah, you should know what happens, right?
And get ejected really quick.
I know, it's so embarrassing.
We should get all these people deported
and as not here on a visa assistantship
through our father works in US military.
Oh, that's disappointing.
We'll have to go and do that instead.
And then you have this person too.
Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
We will follow up.
This is the deputy secretary of state.
Man.
Deport every single one of these losers.
And the ones that you can't deport,
here's the thing that you should do.
Just go in there, just pull their file,
and find something to just punish them with.
Like just invent something if you have to, right?
Like okay, an unpaid parking ticket.
Oh, you didn't pay your parking ticket from 2017?
Well, now you're going to Guantanamo Bay.
Oh, well your visa's expired for one day?
Well, it looks like you're being shipped over to the Congo.
This is like, I think you should do.
Oh, you've got a history of jaywalking?
Oh, okay.
So how does 10 to 20 years of jail sound?
rules and rules right
and uh... care for that's all the s s third their propaganda i have no interest
in somebody trying to bring up the nazis these people are the nazis they're the
ones that want to kill their they want to kill their political opposition
uh... i'd simply all i want to do
is be in a country of people that are like minded where we can vote on
different issues these people make that impossible we can't have a civilized
western society when we have people that are going around celebrating and
and supporting assassinations.
It's impossible to do.
So there is no real equivalency or slippery slope here.
Like you just can't, you can't come to an agreement
with these people.
Like there's no reason to.
They're not assimilating.
They're not part of our culture.
They shouldn't be part of our culture.
We have some of these people that are going on,
you know, in America and they're citizens.
We have to deal with them differently.
But every person who's not a citizen
should get removed, man.
Like what do you mean?
it's going happen in a modest country yeah exactly and we've got to get back to
uh... not having to deal with these crazy people man
and uh... i'm glad to see more people are doing this and i think that the uh...
going after and uh... you know going after these people
and doing this i think it's a good thing
ideal i think it's a very good thing because they do that to you
they'd sell it like it if c if your opinions are like charlie kerks they'd
be happy if you died
so you should never feel bad about the way that you affect them or if you get
them deported or arrested or fired
because these people would celebrate if you died
so never think to yourself that all well is this too much and i being too
mean is this cruel
should i keep going to be really deserve this the answer is yes
deserve worse honestly
but we do what we can
exactly right yet some of that yet if anything it's not enough
So, and it's enough for one of them to support,
it's enough for one of them to support a Trump at some point?
Well, I don't know about that.
Yeah, I mean, sure.
I mean, for some of these people,
and what's this year?
Should it be in our country as a foreigner
if you hate our country and our people?
No, it's even simpler than that.
You should not be in our country as a foreigner
if you support violence to solve problems.
We have enough of those people here in America already.
We don't need to be importing new people
that cause those same problems.
Like that's a huge issue that we've had for years
and we still have this issue.
I don't wanna deal with that anymore.
You have to give these people absolutely zero kindness,
exactly.
And then whenever they ask for kindness,
it's important to ceremoniously not give it to them, right?
And that's the only way that these people ever learn
to temper their behavior is by force.
That's it.
Papa May, it's been on stream saying,
guys review thoughts on that. I support ICE completely. I don't need to make every person
that I've interacted with on the internet agree with my political opinions. Yeah, I don't like I
don't know what you're doing like unless somebody's saying something that's like really bad, somebody
doesn't like ICE. Okay, there's a lot of people that have seen negative clips of ICE and they have
a negative perception of it. Like I don't think that's really a big deal. I think that
it's wrong. I support ICE. I think they're totally justified. I honestly think we need
more ice, but you know again I'm not going to go out and get in a fight with somebody
over you know something that they might have seen on the news, yeah like fuck that it's
weird, like I don't need to control and force other people to think like I do, absolutely
not it's very very odd to do, especially not over something that's like pretty milk
toast really, and oh I saw this.
Your goal right is to be a representation of Islam and religion, the way you go about
Things is very wrong and very very harsh and very like it streams where it pushes people away from our religion
Yeah, and it makes people think that where these people were hatred in our hearts
Oh, yeah, and you don't think it'd be back first off
It's not in our religion
We're not supposed to bash each other bash people publicly and judge people based off of what they do in the same religion
Oh now you're a scholar bro. Okay when you do these same things off camera, but we don't need to get into that
Whatever it is you said I sold my soul to gambling and all this stuff brother
You stream on kick kick is a hundred percent 100 percent backed by a casino every time you make funnels in from a casino
And you know this every sub that you get a percentage of it goes to a casino every dime
You get off of KCIP is given to you from a casino kick doesn't have funding again
We just spoke about this muscle Lancer and look it depends on what you're promoting it bro. It's crazy
No, it doesn't
If you die and go to heaven and you talk to Muhammad or Allah
And you tell them that, well, I did support gambling by being on this website, but I didn't do gambling streams.
Do you really think that they would, if they are truly the morally pure and righteous, you know, like representatives that you think they are?
Do you really think, and you talk to Moses and Jesus because they'd all be there, right?
Even in Islam, it's all part of the extended universe of Islam.
Do you think that they would say, oh, well, it's okay.
you
you
you
you
you
recover from these little memes man. Like at first it was just the Mario one but now we're
getting the Zelda one too. And anybody can make this with AI now. I think it might be
over for modern gamers.
American games are over, as we know.
Good on ya, I'm real impressed!
Hero of Time!
Well, here goes nothing.
Face me!
Man.
Not bad!
Modern gaming.
Modern gaming. AAA Zelda.
I'm excited man horrible writing really you think so what do you mean? What are you talking about?
This guy by the way
Do you believe there's white supremacy?
Well, I'm I actually I'm actually curious. Do you believe in it? No, not at all
You don't think there's such thing as white supremacy. Do you believe there's white supremacy?
Well, I'm I actually I'm actually curious. Do you believe in it? No, not at all
You don't think there's such thing as white supremacy?
Okay, do you I think we're not gonna get anywhere if you don't believe in that do you believe that it exists when we went to world war
Did you believe that happened like with?
Yeah, that did happen right we tried to make sure that
policies of only having white people as a nation was wrong
Now looking at today, do you see that playing out at all?
Folks who support these ideas and white supremacy, do you see that playing out right now?
I see Black Lives Matter and Antifa, they do believe in the same principle as that.
You think they believe in the same thing as that?
I thought you just said that.
No, no, no.
I'm saying that the folks that are out on the streets right now, marching around
Tifa people know about life and you know supporting the principles I agree with
you that black lives matter and Tifa are promoted hatred toward white people but
I don't see it the other way around but you don't believe that black lives do
matter though I don't believe that the black man you don't believe that your
life is just as important as a white person you know I believe that life
matter but it's the individual responsibility to have the life that
they want. There's no one else's responsibility.
You see that, you've seen it, or his ideas nowadays? Yeah, CNTFA, holy shit.
He's so good, man. I love him. Anyway, it's so funny. More proof that society
wants women to look like photoshop children because what the fuck is this?
And then the reply, fat bitches be doing everything but eat less.
They bro, they trying to duct tape their legs together.
Oh my god.
There's nothing new.
It's just embarrassing.
By the way, one of the, one of this is like a Hassan orbiter.
One of his like super fans has been getting like, oh mega fucking, uh, what's the word
for it?
Like I think people are learning a lot about this individual and she's so upset about it that now
She's contacted the police riled up. Yeah, it's deserved. Of course. It's deserved
I mean like these people again, you're supporting it. It's a terrorist supporter
You're going around and just pushing this stuff constantly
You don't if you don't if you can't stand the heat go back to the kitchen. That's what I think
too bad
So yeah police yeah, she's weird bro. She is like it's a diaper fetish and all kinds of other stuff
Apparently she doesn't take care of her kid or something like I don't remember exactly what it was
Oh shit. Is it illegal to know people's names now?
man
These people it's really funny to me how
How weak they are as soon as the same thing that they do to other people happens to them
It is so fucking funny for me to see this
This is in India.
In a remote Indian village, its residents were complaining about the poor 5G network coverage.
They asked the telecom company to send an employee to fix the problem.
And when he arrived, they tied him to the tower and they said they wouldn't release
him until he fixed the problem.
This is the video of our village's heritage, this has come from Jio network.
Okay, the two years of this year are not even possible.
The network is not coming, the light is also on.
So the network is not on.
People from all the villages get 5G charge, but there is no problem.
Do you not have a strain?
Do you know what's really funny is that I bet this is actually a good idea for them
because like I bet they sent this guy out
and he's not really gonna do anything.
And so then if they hold this guy hostage
until they bring out the real guy to do something, right?
Like it's actually like, I was thinking about this.
I was like, wait a minute.
Like is this actually a good idea or not?
Like let's get the morality out of the way, right?
But like, yeah, is this a good idea?
Yeah, actually it's like bait, right?
Cause like what if they send out a fake technician
just to get you guys to shut the fuck up, right?
Cause like the odds are
this probably isn't the first time this has happened.
So now they tie up the fake technician, they're like, all right, now come out and get the real technician.
It's like 5D, yeah, exactly. And low trust society things.
It's a whole other world, man. And anyway, this is, oh yeah, this is the same girl, by the way.
Um, this is the Socialist Adri or whatever, used to write fanfictions of her having Harry Styles babies.
I wonder if she's written about her son.
Oh my god.
What a fucking freak, man.
What an absolute fucking weirdo.
Jesus, man.
Justin Bieber's point of view.
Weird as fuck very very weird, but again, that's that's what these people are right?
I mean imagine who who sits at home all day doing that right?
I mean she's not getting paid for it
So what is this and I looked at this before men not getting any jobs. I don't know if this is really accurate
It seems so abstract. That's probably not accurate, but here we go
Fuck JK rolling and fuck Harry Potter
It's just so stupid, bro.
This is what mental issue looks like.
It's gotta be a meme, right?
This has to be a joke.
Like, throws it on the ground, but like the Disney characters with the hairpins, bro, like, I don't know, he's out of breath.
By the way, so, we've been having some shit talkers.
Asmongold will be 40 years old by the time Diablo 5 comes out, by the way.
WestJet replies, it's coming out today?
really guys really like is this what is this what what did I do to deserve this
it's fucking funny it is really funny happy birthday shut the fuck up okay
shut up close enough I don't want to see that and anyway the guy who crashed the game awards
during Elvin Ring's win by yelling about former President Bill Clinton is interviewing Hunter,
the recovering drug addict son of former U.S. President Joe Biden as he holds a copy of Destiny 3.
I just needed to write that sentence for the record.
Gentlemen, the internet has allowed us to do something.
I mean, guys, we're in a whole new world now.
That's what Hunter Biden had on his laptop. That's why the coin was so expensive
It's because destiny 3 was on it. I think that must be it
Let me go back. I got to pull these other ones up, too
There's been a bunch of other shit that's happened and I'll probably look at some of the shit from the from YouTube as well
Because I have actually I mean looks anything about that
I should look at the reddit post that people have made fuck around and find out you're having such a good
perversary, aren't we having fun anymore? Yeah, it's so funny. It is so funny to me to see these
people get just what they asked for. Like whenever you're supporting like this stuff and everything,
it's just crazy. Time for cop slop. Oh, let me look at some other stuff. Okay. Like just relax.
All right, guys. I love this. Congratulations. I just got fired with cause. Please leave me
alone now this is only the beginning because again you oh geez I probably
shouldn't even I shouldn't explain why it's going to continue because in doing
so I think it's a it's a little bit too much of a reveal but like yeah there's a
reason why people do it will never stop yeah it's it's about setting an
example.
They're finally awake, mother f***!
We done dare almost started calling you
dang old sleepy joe!
Ha ha ha!
Lord Light?
I used to be a hitchhiker like you
and I got addicted to meth.
Do you get to Lake Tahoe often?
What am I saying? Of course you don't.
Just in, a hate crime at the Starbucks off Pacific Avenue in Rorickstead has left residents
shocked.
Frankly, Rorickstead is full of people like him.
It's not a place for the better members of society.
We accept everyone here.
Except Trump.
Except ICE.
Except white men and-
Stop!
You violated the law!
Why is he dual wielding a tape measure and a hammer?
Why is he doing that?
Assault!
Assault!
Oh my god.
And I think we've already seen this one before.
Bro, what is this?
of these are just simply women on like women's day, right? I don't think it's really a big deal,
but you know there's a lot of other people that they see this and they're like, I knew it! I knew it!
Got permanent banned on meme videos for this. Women aren't responsible for their actions
because of their hormones. Yeah, probably you got banned because it was banned by a woman.
Yeah, most women are like this, but it shows up in different ways. The older I've gotten,
The more I believe that the 19th Amendment was a huge mistake.
Accountability is a woman's kryptonite.
They want to believe in equal rights, but not equal accountability or responsibility.
Edit? Don't worry, I don't take offense of any of the name calling or downvotes from women.
They can't control their emotions or actions because they're hormones.
So we can't blame them or take anything seriously that they say.
So true.
true. So true. Completely agree. Oh, I've seen this, the non-practicing white.
Hold out during the Lindsey Clancy trial with a black man. And I'm not going to share any
opinions because I'm not a person of color. I am a non-practicing white. I'm surprised.
It changes the landscape of the conversation a little bit. And I think a lot of us were
assuming that it was a white man.
You are absolutely a practicing white woman. You're going on the internet and thinking that everybody in the world is entitled to your opinion
I can't think of anything more that is white woman coded than that
So if you want to stop doing that why don't you just delete your account
How about that she even has the haircut yeah, yeah, you've even got you you have this is a Trevor haircut
Okay, not from GTA 6 or 5 or whatever, but from just anybody a guy named Trevor has like a 20% chance to have this haircut
Okay, Tyler same thing a buzz cut. What is this? I've seen this before and I already looked at it before
That was very very cringe, right and oh, I went through this before as well
I've already seen me. So I'm gonna get some Alice off stuff and then look at some videos too
to go through everything. It's been a long day.
NMP has banned Mr. Arthur from his stream and unfollowed on socials. That's right. That's
fucking right. That's right. Fuck Arthur. What did Arthur do? What did Arthur do? Did
Arthur do something bad? Yeah, why? I don't know. Yeah, I have no idea. Hi, Nick.
We know you're here.
Wow.
I think this shit's so funny.
It really is.
Watching the shit unfold it.
DAMN!
DAMN!
What the fuck?
Holy shit!
he's got that shit on
all my god
dude
holding it in my hand
you're an asshole
I under I understand you're doing your job, but like I know
No, but what I'm getting mad is is you're so incredulous. I'm taking pictures of people
I'm doing my job. Yeah
This seems like some bullshit like I don't care. It's just
Getting in an argument the security guard. I don't care about that dude. This armor looks so fucking cool
Holy shit. By the way, his security guard is in there, right? S-Fan is in there wrong.
You have to follow the security guard and you know, it's his responsibility to make sure that, you know, the environment's safe.
He is. I mean, like, S-Fan's my boy, but like, yeah, has to be, right?
You know, like, that's it.
And so is there a venue? Yeah, I mean, you have to follow the rules.
And like, if he had it, like, he should have, like, if you want to have that, like, you'd have to have someone with you or something like that, right?
And screw you guys for content. Was it for content? Maybe it was but anyway, that is fucking insane, right?
This armor is amazing
Holy fucking shit. Look at that.
Oh my god
This is one of the best ones I've seen
Jesus Christ and
Yeah, wow. We took it off just for some pictures. Yeah
Yeah, sure, but like either way that looks really really cool. And what is this here? Can I find it? And
Superiors tell us Spearcy did something today. I mean, I I don't know. It's this real improv skit
S-Fan called him an asshole like I I don't know but like again, I don't want to get involved with that
It's just bullshit. But anyway, this is really really good armor set. God damn
What is this trying to hang out if the grand finals was this? I don't know what the fuck this is
Let me see. I think I've already seen that one before
So we have oh shit this is heavy.
Oh, this is heavy.
Wow.
It is signed.
You're doing great.
Keep it up.
Yeah, that's good.
Okay, let's see here and I find the other ones and and look at them that's that is really fucking funny for me to say
Excuses reaction a clothes binding. Oh god. I want to see this
These rich people steal homeless people's clothes and call it high-fashion
Jesus Christ, that's bad
These rich people steal homeless people's clothes and call it high fashion. I was I'm this I was here
Are you serious?
Yeah, I really love the Glitterpurse 2 Omegalol.
Okay.
Uh, okay.
Oh, fuck yes.
Seriously?
Okay.
Um...
Alright.
Who would choose this over a Fortnite fashion show?
Yo, yo, can we stop? Yo, can we stop for like a minute so I can watch this shit?
Jesus Christ!
I support, like, I've always supported Kai, I think Kai's great.
Like, I don't know, a lot of the, I'm not a fashion guy, right?
But it is funny, like it's funny, man!
Like, god damn, you beggar, millionaire, solidarity there?
I mean again, I think that this is the reason why XQC isn't like shitting on it is that he sees Kai doing something that nobody's ever done as a
Streamer before and I think that we all want to see people kind of you know expand the scope of what being a streamer is and
You can take a little bit of you know respect for people that tried to take a step in a certain direction
And maybe sometimes they trip right and they branch out and they do something that doesn't really work
but you can respect an attempt and
And, you know, I think that's why, you know, a lot of people aren't going to be negative
about it.
I mean, XQC's criticized Kai in the past, and he's not doing this now.
I feel like it's really, it's not because of some sort of, you know, class solidarity
thing.
I think it's, he sees somebody do something that they want to do, like when Kai played
Elden Ring.
Yeah.
Like, whenever he played Elden Ring, that was pretty different.
I would say that was way different.
So, yeah, no streamer ever sold clothes.
Not like this, no.
like an actual fashion brand. I don't think so. At least I mean,
maybe they have, but I feel like they haven't. I certainly don't
remember seeing that. But maybe I'm not thinking of something. I
don't know.
Hi, doesn't mean everyone. Yeah, of course not. I mean, I don't
think it's mean. No, of course, he's not mean. He's just a
normal guy. Like, what do you mean? So fuck no. All right.
All right, we are gonna watch like you guys wanted to see it.
We are gonna go through it. Don't worry about it. We are
gonna watch the new the new reckless bin video okay we gonna do it we gonna do it
brick by brick that's what they say all right let's get it taking over bricks and
many figs all right let's see it
It's got a big back story.
I'll get into it and then we'll check out the store.
So basically the store in Arizona, well a lot of the franchise owners, they all have
to pay 6% to bricks and minifigs to use a name that shows the world that they steal
from old people.
by putting bricks and minifigs on your store,
you're basically saying, hey, we steal from old people.
The thing is 6% of their profits use that store.
So I put that idea out there.
I was like, hey, what if anyone,
like any of these franchises just wanna rebrand,
you can like put reckless bricks on your store, you know?
It's basically showing you-
Reckless bricks.
Oh my God, I didn't even try to read it.
Don't steal from old people.
And you can just pay me 0%, you know?
You can just do it for free.
I'll advertise you guys for free.
So finally there was a store in Tucson who was down, he's like, I'm down.
So, yeah, we came rebrand the store.
Oh my God.
They closed down as the bricks and minifigs first.
It's a whole long thing that we'll get into.
Basically, corporate had the opportunity to do the chicken dance and they didn't.
And because they didn't do the chicken dance,
they didn't uphold their side of the contract by giving a good name.
Yeah, whatever happened with that chicken dance?
by not doing the chicken dance,
the store was able to get out of their contract.
And now I'm allowed to be here.
Basically, if I get 300 feet within a bricks and minifigs,
I go to jail for like months, I think,
is what I've been told.
So I'm allowed to be here because,
as you can see, I'm not in jail
because this isn't a bricks and minifigs anymore,
it's a reckless bricks.
So let's say we go in and see,
oh, don't look at that U-Haul,
that's, there's no U-Haul next to me
that's not a U-Haul.
It's not in the security tape.
No, it's different.
And then you can see we had a red carpet ceremony this morning.
Oh, wow.
Let's go to the store.
How do I check camera?
Wow, this is very well.
Reckless bricks.
Reckless bricks.
Let's check it out.
Reckless bricks.
Door mat.
Holy shit.
Are you kidding me?
This door was about to close in like two to three weeks.
But they couldn't afford any more.
Oh, my god.
Check this out.
And this guy just left them in the store for this.
like this is a zero advertise and just for the rest of the first time I decided to show you
how many people came in, it's been crazy, it was way full of this too when we opened the
ceremony, we got uh, we got uh, we got uh, we got uh, we got uh, we got uh, some bobble
heads, that's amazing, there's 11 heads, it's a limited count, wow, are these the
bobble heads of those three clowns, we got some nice bobble heads, um, we got,
We made this out of Legos, it's reckless bricks.
We don't steal from old people.
That's, uh...
Yeah, shoot, what time is there right now?
Let's see.
I think our clock might be broken, but, uh, let's see.
What does it say?
Um, yeah, I think our clock's broken.
We need some AA batteries.
Yeah, someone's asking me to sign.
We got a reckless brick, official.
one piece ulceration box signed by Dan from the grand opening yeah I kind of
messed it up I'm sorry guys but one side says reckless there's more like there's
Josh Johnson with this there's a man there's like the Lego brick guys if
anyone doesn't solve a Rubik's Cube they made Rubik's Cubes out of these
guys
Respect yeah, it's now a wild blacklist bricks reckless so yeah, the people is crazy Wow
Yesterday
Yeah, you see the tagline right there. We do not steal from old people.
Oh, so this is a third company?
It would be very clear.
This is not a brick committee thing. They steal from old people.
The reckless bricks, we do not steal from old people.
We're like that very clear. We do not steal from old people here.
We also got some old and many grandma underpants for Sample.
Uh, we're auctioning them off. Uh, some grandma undies.
They're hanging from the ceiling right now.
Oh my god.
Yeah.
Oh my fucking god.
I didn't know this was going to happen.
Yeah, we got Amon, little skydiving Amon.
Um, yep, he's skydiving.
What is this? What is that?
Uh, he can't believe...
No, it's horrible!
Oh my god.
I love it too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You guys got it for me.
We got some customers.
What up?
Imagine it's like your job is just to be annoying.
And he's so good at it.
He really is.
He's so good at being annoying.
Customers?
He is.
Let's see if we can take him around.
What up?
How'd you guys find out about the store?
My house.
Just through the words.
I guess that's the store owner's son never mind. Yeah, you aren't random customers then you're just
Part of the crew kind of oh nice. He's right. Let's say oh, I guess I
Was just interviewing the crew that's awkward
Okay, I'm gonna try and find someone else
let's get our let's get our our our cat is reckless it's wrecking house how's
how's sales going today
do these be able to pay rent this year or this month
amazing I guess the theory you said you're gonna go back outside really
I said that that's good theory is that all of the bricks and mini-fig stores
They all went out because no one wants to pay six percent
To put a brand on their store that says they steal from old people
You know like why would you pay money to make your store worse? Yeah, that's really bad, right?
So I think
The the reason none of them are doing is because they're scared that corporates gonna take over the store
Yeah, true, which I guess they could take over the store
But this guy he was not that he's like he's really like I can't pay my employees anymore like yeah
This the brand has name has been so tarnished that my I think his story
I'm so bad and sell them out of what it was last year
So I really can't I'm I still have no other options if corporate wants to come and take over my store
I don't care anymore
So that's why he changed it
But if this store is successful that all of the other stores might follow and so we're calling this the first domino and
And yeah, if this is successful, it might follow suit and then
I don't know what that would mean for bricks and minifigs, but
Hopefully that would teach him a lesson. I guess that would be the end of those old people who would be dumb. Oh, we got
Yeah
Yeah
Corporate is gonna come down here and try and seize the store
No, I don't know. I feel like corporate just like season stores all the time for stuff like that
So we've actually rigged a bunch of booby traps inside from corporate comes down that way because now that's part
I don't know all the legal stuff, but I think they sent them a notice yesterday
So I officially just passed in the store and if they enter they are subject to all of our booby traps
So we have no booby traps inside. I don't want to share them on the because they're probably watching this live stream
Eventually, I'll reveal the booby traps, but I won't reveal them yet, because that way they could get around them, you know?
We got Ben Jammin. He was the decoy Ben that ran across the street.
This is my other brother, Ben.
But, uh, yeah.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, so we got all these booby traps rigged inside.
So if corporate comes down, they're not going to be able to take over the store because they'll be caught in our booby traps.
And, uh, they're all officially trespassed from the store.
So, yeah, um, should I read some comments?
Let's see what comments.
I'll read some of the super chats.
Send me respect your ways.
Stay safe, Ben.
Oh, nice.
Nice.
Let's see what the other super chat is.
Uh, time to shop at Reckless Bricks.
How is this real?
Yes, thank you for leaving those super chats.
Those were great super chats.
Thank you so much.
Um, I hope he does more of these.
Also, uh, do you guys want to know about, you'll be in the live stream?
This is like this is like this is the owner.
You used to want to break some minifigs here, right?
I did.
Oh nice.
How's the business going today?
Pretty good so far.
Yeah?
Pretty busy?
Nice.
He looks like an avocado.
You feeling right now?
You do.
Excited?
Scared?
I'm excited.
You see what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Oh nice.
That's wild.
Come down to the store and meet us.
Oh we got another $5 super chat.
I totally need my cute black kitten after you.
He's reckless too.
My girl and I love you.
Oh thanks.
Wow.
Well, it's getting windy out here, but the Leggers are going fast, so if you want to
come see the store before corporate tries taking it over, you got to get here soon, because
corporate could come down any minute, but we do have a lot of good booby traps set
up to trap them, so, so, so, good luck corporate taking over this store, this is going to
be the hardest store for corporate to take over because of all of our booby traps.
You ain't gettin' Bruce Herety.
Yeah.
Hi guys, welcome to Reckless Bricks.
Yeah, welcome to Reckless Bricks.
And Bruce Herety.
Yeah.
Hi guys, welcome to Reckless Bricks.
Yeah, welcome to Reckless Bricks.
Welcome to Reckless Bricks.
Almost, bro.
You almost.
What are people saying?
OK, we're going to the store one more time,
and then I think I've got to end the livestream
because I have a lot of work to do inside.
Yeah, he's a busy guy.
I just wanted to kind of update everyone
Kind of give a little shout out I guess but one more time and then I gotta end the live stream. I'm sorry guys
So here we go
Carpet oh beautiful, okay, I break this bricks Wow
Wow.
That's so fucking good.
I love this guy.
I love this guy.
Bricked up.
Look at all these cool Lego stuff.
Wow.
They're all a bunch of cool Lego things.
Wow.
Wait, so if corporate comes
and reclaims all of the
fucking inventory
but reckless Ben
signed all of the inventory
Does that mean that they're going to reclaim it and then sell inventory with reckless bin signature?
Another trap. Whoa.
Oh my god. Whoa. The news is here. We got ABC News. Whoa. The news showed up. That's thing.
I guess this is cool. I've probably got to go and do some duties here, but if you want to check us out
A professional problem.
Two days or until corporate interest is over.
That's about right.
Yeah.
Come and check out the stores.
I'll be here to see you guys.
It's lit.
ABC, it's just so fucking funny.
It's whom for defacing inventory, vandalism, whatever.
Well, the contract probably already expired.
And so it wasn't their property anymore, probably.
There's the video.
Make sure to give it a like.
As you guys know, I love Reckless Bin.
I've watched every single one of these videos about the Lego event, right?
The Lego event.
And hopefully, hopefully, you know, they're able to finally be held accountable because
of just how much of just total fucking bad actors these people are.
They're just awful.
They probably trademarked the signature. Oh my god. You see he trademarked the signature
So then if they try to sell it, he's gonna try to sue them for trademarking the signature
Yeah, I think that'd be a really good idea and that's it
And a heretic figured. Yeah, it's truly impressive. He's very funny. Give me one second. I'll be right back
Second it should never take the easy way out. Yeah, they should have they should have done the chicken dance
They should have done it
All right, all right, I'm back.
All right, all right, I'm back.
Sorry about that.
Oh shit, I almost fell down.
Okay, yeah, we should be good now.
Ah, excuse me.
All right.
Okay.
The Coke break?
No, fuck no, man.
I don't do no drugs ever.
I never do any drugs.
All people in Falling Over Classic?
Shut the fuck up.
I don't think, I've fallen over actually.
I've fallen down my shit my stairs like three or four times actually they're really unsafe
they are like they're very very unsafe and
Coke what is this your jacksups guys not make content for children she be lying supposed to part of the drama
What is this here? Oh, this is somebody yeah?
Well, this is it careful after falling affoing after 40 hits different. No, it's fine
Are they carpet stairs? They sure are and it happens never I'm uh, you know wearing socks or something
so it would slide around.
Yeah, I fell through my ceiling.
I've fallen off the roof.
I have had my foot run over by a car.
I put it there.
I wanted to see what it would feel like.
And let's see, besides that,
I've been knocked off my bike by getting hit in the mouth.
What else have I done?
How'd it feel?
I remember I was, I did like this.
I was like, I was like, wait, oh, they're all here?
Oh, I'm fine.
Okay, we're good.
Yeah, don't worry about it.
Yeah, whatever I got, ever broken any bones?
No, I didn't even get a fractures, nothing bro.
Yeah, it's not even a big deal.
It was whatever.
Would you do it again?
I would hope not to, right?
Yeah, I would prefer not to.
When you fell through your roof, I did.
Yeah, I even have like a, I have an image of it, don't I?
Where is it? Where's the photo of it?
Where's me falling through my roof?
Oh geez.
That's not it.
There we go.
I have to boost the post maybe later.
So yeah, there it is.
I fell right through that hole.
And you could see I put my foot on this two by four
and i thought to myself ok i'm gonna be fine i'm just gonna and then that shift
just park in the one
and i just slid right down man
and uh... yeah i had to go and click on the ceiling is crazy
such as what happens
yes just what i i that that's just the way it goes man
well i i i i i i i was not really too crazy is it i should that's life
i mean sometimes you fall through the ceiling
what the hell man i feel like that's happened to everybody right i mean for
the park
so yeah i know i'm not worried about we fat yeah bro ordinary chance i hire a
cleaning crew i do it today so much a risk yeah
i disagree with your views for leave the house for best best best house i'm
good man
bro unlock the shortcut
you know it's really funny is that after i fell down
you know i did
i just got ups i just got because i was looking for it i was looking for a
dead rotting rat
And so I would just, I just walked over the hole
and I just kept looking for it.
I was like, well, I can't go there.
All right, well, anyway.
Yeah, he took a picture, yeah.
And that's not how to make a sunroof, I guess so.
Did you fall through or catch yourself on the beam though?
Oh, I could catch myself.
I fell through and I caught myself on the railing.
I just held onto the railing, that was fun.
And like it's a small inconvenience, yeah.
And it's like, I have pretty fast reflexes.
So it's not really something I'd be stressed out about
or worried about or anything.
It'd be fine.
Is the hole still there?
Oh, no, I actually got it fixed.
And I know that might be shocking,
but I did actually get it fixed.
And what is this here?
Make jokes, what is this?
No one has a year ago, is this,
oh, this is somebody that's trying to, of course,
These are people trying to call me out, quoting this,
the guy, the fantasy about justifying, killing kids,
you made a section in your Discord to track
if you don't make jokes about Charlie Kirk.
Again, all these people, by the way,
I am not interested in trying to capitulate
to whatever double standard they're inventing.
These people are totally dishonest rats.
And yes, that's exactly what I did.
I'll do it again and again and again.
These people's values or what their opinions are
or what they consider to be a double standard nothing they say has any value
nothing they say nothing they do has any value
everything is just purely to take advantage of you or to why do you or
some other variation of that
i feel like if people don't understand that they're definitely in a very bad
spot
and uh... their monsters yeah like i i i that's the way that i look at a lot
of these people right third world mindset exactly and if people don't
want to use it or like look at it from that mindset, I think they've got a big problem.
Because a lot of people try to like argue and be like, oh, no, that's not really what
I mean. And that's different for this reason. These people want to subvert you. They do.
They want to subvert you. And so why would I in any shape or form try to capitulate
to what they believe a rationalization is? There's no reason to ever do that.
Never play inside of a game of a person that's not actually trying to play. They're
They're not trying to play the game.
They're not trying to engage with you.
They're just trying to get you to acquiesce on your positions so they can continue to
push their own.
That's it.
And so there's no reason to even engage.
So even they know they're different, they don't care.
Of course, exactly.
That's my whole point, right?
Is that they don't care.
They're doing this intentionally.
It's the intentional misunderstanding.
That's always what they do.
Any cops out today, they purposely misunderstood the kid thing.
It's so stupid.
Well, who cares?
is that what those people do, I mean these are the same people that want to give kids
sex changes and stuff, right? So it's not like you're going to listen to this person
about what to do with kids. I mean like fuck that. Absolutely not. What a long intro.
Intro. Yeah, definitely. Um, yeah, so no, I, I, and, and it's funny to see these people
try to make arguments like that. Like it's just a total waste of time. Cops up, we'll
Watch one tomorrow.
What do you want tomorrow?
I figured I'd play a little bit of this.
I haven't gotten into this for a while.
Let me go back and go to this.
Let's subvert you.
Exactly, of course that's what they do.
It's always what they do.
I wanted Japanese voiceover and speak Japanese,
so I wanted to have a voiceover for Japanese.
So I have to say that I did the side quest off stream.
I didn't complete the quest or anything.
But I did, whenever you walk in this room,
it starts a cutscene.
So basically it told me that I have to go to a mountain.
And I don't even know how to get there.
So let me figure out how to get there.
OK.
OK, Elon, why don't you relax?
Travel.
OK, how do I get over there?
Oh, OK, it's a whole new zone.
OK, good.
And I have to go to here.
Alright, let's do it. Lock the fuck in. Yeah.
He got me into this game by the way. I'm on the last boss.
I don't even know how far along I am. People said I'm about 60% of the way through, so I guess we'll find out, right?
Uh, I figured I'd do at least a little bit of it today.
But I've been trying to play this and do a little bit more.
I need to see if I can find a boss.
We already know this is a trap.
Just have to wait and see how they spring.
Uh-oh! Uh-oh!
I was able to get some extra skills too, like I have a charge to attack now.
See that?
And I have this too.
Turn it down.
That's going to be really nice.
Ooh castle on the mountain.
Such vicious mice.
There is no doubt you did the game a stronghold.
Uh huh.
But it's not Sunstoker's presence there.
Ooh, suck it, whether she's there or not.
So we're just going to go fuck shit up for no reason.
Damn that show looks good actually looks really good
Like the framing of that is like super super clean
Didn't put on the red armor I didn't like it
Yeah, I wasn't a fan of the red armor I
Haven't played this for a few days because obviously I wanted to do it on stream
And so I might be a little bit rusty so be patient
Legendary drops video about this game in Capcom
I was gonna watch that today, but then I thought to myself. I was like, you know what?
Like, we've already been doing other stuff for eight hours, I'd rather just play a game for a little bit, right?
But maybe I'll watch it tomorrow.
Jesus, this guy's gonna run for a while!
Oh, Lee!
Okay.
Here we go, this way.
Goddamn, this is a lot of work.
Oh
Okay, all right, we made it up here, and oh we got a special thing
All right open door
I'm actually wait. Why would you have all these special things?
I think the only way forward is through that abandoned building. I feel like if you've got all these countermeasures wouldn't you lock the door?
That's what I would do
Okay, let me look around.
What we got going on? Special box?
That's good.
I forgot what else this is.
They're lazy with the door? It's like, yeah, bro, like I feel like that's the first thing you want to lock in.
Apparently not.
Okay.
There's nobody even here. Okay, there's about to be somebody here.
see me too but I don't see oh fuck
no bro come on
Don't make a mess with me.
Finally showed your face.
You're a human.
Prepare yourself.
No ordinary gamble.
What the fuck is this?
They should prove no much for you.
What's going on?
What's wrong?
He's doing these weird ass fucking... these spins and shit.
Why's he kinda hard to kill?
That guy was kinda hard to kill, man.
Holy shit.
Okay, I'm gonna look around make sure that's on this.
I like this zone, it's a nice zone.
Finishes are so clean, yeah they said they made it.
Oh, what's up?
Why would he jump away from me?
I gotta use my special thing after this.
Okay, alright time to practice. Wait, wait, wait. Okay. What's wrong? Alright, let's do it.
Oh, what's wrong?
What's wrong?
Damn, bro.
Now she's trying to spam the same thing over and over. What a moron.
What a fucking idiot. Okay, um...
Is it B? Yeah, okay, good. Alright.
Uh, let's see. Where do we need to go? So, we probably have to go that way, right?
it's gotta be this way as a giant sword he only kicks yeah I kind of got lucky
there right
I just jump oh they mean to do that
see a power oh we gotta go in here
separate the threads at their source I'm actually glad it didn't start with the
I gotta get used to this again.
Gotcha, bitch.
And I guess I'll kill these barrels here, too.
I'm gonna lose something real good, right?
It's not.
Okay, and that's where I came from, and then the other one must be down here.
Can I go down here?
Okay.
Oh, I didn't even need to do that.
Now that I'm down here, I might as well just shoot these other ribbons, right?
Okay.
Lesser defense, Talisman.
We don't need that, but we'll get...
Wait, oh.
Who the fuck is this?
The fuck does he want?
Why is he even here?
Stop, man!
Stop him.
He'll take more matters, see?
Whoa!
We're on fire now, bitch!
We got the mutton to do that.
I forgot to get spacebar. That's right.
Oh, what's wrong?
What's wrong?
Damn!
8000!
I'm out of control!
Oh, I'm doing this. Oh, get out of here, bitch.
Get out of my life. Just big dick them. That was easy.
What's in the box?
That's where I was already at, right?
Yeah, yeah, we already been here.
Okay.
Alright, we killed everything.
That was good.
We got a special item.
Uh, what the hell?
Oh, it's the top.
That's right.
Let me get back to the top.
Overpowered?
Yeah, we beat the shit out of them.
I didn't even need to heal.
Honestly, I just healed just for the sake of it.
That was great.
I don't think that would go as well as it did.
The pro gamer?
I know.
I'm fully aware of that.
Okay.
Now we're in the cave.
We've got to go to this new, this castle.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh, I can I can un-enhanced too
Okay, what can I do? I can enhance my business and then how many of these do I have? I have a power stone
Should I big dick and go all the way down with the bow power? I
Could also just make my ease and better
Making my ease and better is the smart thing to do making the bow better is the fun thing to do
This is hard.
East and for stream.
Your eye.
Your eye.
It does look cool.
Right.
Okay.
And then we'll, we won't, we, we only need two more power stones.
We're going to get two more power stones.
It's not a big deal.
as soon as we're just I wonder what to do I wonder what to do I wonder how to do
it okay let's wait over there I really should upgrade the bow bro it's telling
me
is there something I'm supposed to do down here no okay let's go visit I'm gonna
kill these two losers up here too
these for the case of no joke
oh I thought that would hit it because they're
wait did they make the
wait what?
this is proxies
you'll rob a skill for that
okay
yeah that was weird like I don't know why I missed my shot
that was dumb
I guess I have to go down on death
Nevermind.
Obviously I could break this, right?
There it is.
See this game on my life.
Okay.
Remember, we need to get those fucking, uh, oh, whoa, what's this?
We're gladly over here.
And then, oh, hopefully this is a power stone, right?
It's a big power stone situation.
Right?
Again, my note?
What the fuck? I don't care about that!
Do it. Do it fat.
Look at that here.
Yeah, here you little bitch.
Let's turn back around.
I played the demo. It was confusing.
Well, the game has a few different things.
Like, there's three different types of parrying,
Which is I think probably I don't like that personally. I think it should have just been to you have eason counter
And then the repost or something like that right the reflection or something
I think that's too many but other than that. I think it's it's very good
Hit the wrong one a thousand damage
Oh my god
That's insane!
Why does he always want to be the pet?
What's he doing?
What an idiot!
Okay, I was easy.
Got him.
Alright, let's keep going.
Nothing to do with you.
Is it easiest fuck like that?
See that?
I guarantee you, like, if I had...
If I had to...
If I had to...
If I had to...
See, that... I guarantee you, like, if I had...
Like, that's the kind of stuff that you learn from playing video games.
I remember when I played Dark Souls 1, I would have never thought to do that.
Because I was just retarded.
But now I'm less retarded.
I'm still retarded, but there's not as much.
Sachi, those explosives could be our way to the safe.
We might have made it lose explosives stacked up against the safe.
No way!
What?
Get my idiocy is most reliable.
Get my idiocy?
Oh, they're stupid.
Prune.
They are prepared to fight.
Oh, the fish hose.
I hate them.
I hate them.
I hate them.
I hate them.
I hate them.
I didn't know there was no one, I thought there was two.
There is two.
Yeah, go on.
What the fuck is she doing?
Do it. See what happens.
Oh, it hit me?
That's what happens?
Okay.
Come here.
I hate these fucking things by the way.
I'm not good at fighting them, obviously.
Okay, and can I do a little bit of this?
Maybe, um, can I hit him from here?
There's no way, right?
I can.
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
What's going on guys?
What's going on?
What's up?
What?
What?
I wanted to do the east end so I could chain east of them, but I keep messing it up.
here just do an attack wait it didn't work do it again
Yeah, that was just kind of embarrassing, right?
I had to use two heals there.
Not good.
Okay, let's move.
Oh, I forgot the item.
Unrefined socket.
Just that I needed.
And that's where I came from.
Let me go over here.
Why is there...
Oh, boss.
There, that's one.
Where to?
How's that?
Jesus, a thousand damage?
Dude, I should have got the upgrade with that bow, man.
This is so good.
Is this journalist AI?
They're programmed to not be hyper aggressive when they're...
What's going on?
Damn, what the fuck?
She's not gonna be able to do it.
Do it!
Wait, what? I thought it got out of there.
That was a good fight. It felt good died.
Okay, all right, we're good. That show is annoying. Okay, let's go. I thought I was
gonna kill me. I don't like those mobs. I don't know how they work. Oh, this. Okay,
So we gotta go up to... alright, let's go up to the top.
Can you not swim?
No.
Swimming wasn't invented in ancient Japan, so... you're not able to do that.
I thought we could answer survivors.
Ah, here it is.
Oh, okay. I guess I have to let this go and then I can get the animal off it.
Let me kill this guy.
Anybody else?
No, not quite.
What do I want?
How is it?
I'm just gonna jump down there.
That worked.
I didn't think it would work.
You know what they say?
Sometimes it doesn't work.
Because you're a fucking idiot.
And by you, I mean me.
Okay, power, power stones?
Okay, all right, we need one more power stone.
Then we can get the new bow.
This is gonna be a big day for me.
Let's go.
All right, so we did that, we did this.
I'm gonna look around over here.
Let me guess, this is some sort of shortcut.
Of course it is.
All right, let's turn back around.
Why are they doing like, you know, froncing around this time?
Or this? Or this?
Get ready!
Get ready for these attacks.
Okay, out of here.
Okay, now I'm starting to understand how they work.
Wait, what's he doing?
Get out of here.
I want to look at you.
another power stone of course not damn they gave me a lot of these exploding
boys but like I don't even need them okay and let's go through here this looks
like a mini boss area let's go down first
Well, since you left my town, damn.
Indeed. Let us continue.
Dude, can you guys wait until I get my bow?
Like, it's gonna be so fucking good.
Alright.
Wait, that's it?
Oh, there's more over here.
Oh, maybe this is actually the path?
I don't know where I'm supposed to go.
You go to here.
I made the right decision.
See, I didn't even see that until I went over there.
I wouldn't have even known.
It's like a sixth sense.
Okay, now let's go back up to the...
What the fuck is this?
What's he doing?
I don't like this bro. I don't like this at all.
This is fucking annoying.
It seems to stop.
What?
Okay, that's more like it. Okay.
That's what's supposed to happen every time.
I don't know why I didn't do that on every fucking attempt.
Where the fuck did they even come from? I didn't even see them.
Okay, so let me take the elevator up here.
Ooh, what's all this?
A lot of bases.
It's like I told you guys like that, that Eason ability is like it's actually just so OP.
And that's why I'm up here doing this.
I saw how much damage it did, it just like one shot them.
Is that it?
I think that might actually just be it, right?
Yeah, it looks like it is.
I'll go back down.
Do I care about getting that item?
I do, but I can get it from up here.
I can jump down and just loop around.
Perfect counter.
Yeah.
They are prepared to fight.
Who's that?
They're prepared to fight?
Yeah, okay.
Um, let's go down here.
What was the item?
There's better be another power stone.
I want a power stone.
Mixed grain rice ball.
Okay, that's not what I wanted.
You can't want them all.
Let's keep going.
I don't know how to get up there.
Oh, over this one.
Now, am I supposed to be able to go over there?
No, okay, that's not late.
Alright, I was thinking about this.
Okay, okay, okay.
Shit would be obvious if it was there.
Alright, let's go.
Oh, there's a shortcut.
I thought you guys there was a shortcut.
Oh, maybe I moved this again.
I think they may be able to progress.
Yeah, I suppose.
Okay, and then I'll go back up to the top.
That's the same thing that I needed to use before.
Perfect.
Now let's go get this item.
Same kind of gate.
Oh
There it is
I'm a ninja. That's what ninjas do
Now for the castle. Oh shit
Oh shit
Why did I what was there something I was gonna get and that's going in I don't have two of them right?
Yeah, I don't want fuck. I wish I could get another one
Let's go. I just need one more power stone. One more power stone, but I fully upgrade my
boat.
This zone is cool. Yeah. It's a nice area so far.
I don't know about that.
He's like your main nemesis.
Okay. Let's look around. Ooh, let's go down here. A greater soul crystal. What gives you
the fuck about that?
That's beautiful.
Yeah, this area really does look nice, doesn't it?
Uh-oh.
I think I'm going to fight a boss.
Let's go down here first.
You can go see Yozai, only a little bit.
I was hoping it would come out for the PC.
I don't like play- OOOH A BOX!
Powerstone, please be a powerstone.
Flashing boy, the lightning spear.
Wait, that's really good.
2000 damage?
I forgot what red souls do.
What do red souls do?
Find his keepers.
What did they do again?
I gotta upgrade it first.
Yeah, it's like a spear 1.4 million in yesterday's video.
I honestly don't even keep up with like the currency.
Oh, oh, oh, so I can like, I just like stab the money out of them.
All right.
I might use that, especially if it does health damage.
But mine gives me like an eye frame and it allows me to interrupt the animation
of a target.
So I don't know really if it's worth.
Damn, that looks good.
this we're gonna go and kill everybody in here all right the spear interrupts to
really let me see if I can upgrade it
Oh
I'm here to deal with your monster problem
Shoot and dogey
The rather unpleasant only by that name used to cause problems from this mountain many years ago. Oh, this is nutting up
What? I'm a monk.
He's like a monster.
It brings back grub and booze for shooting doji base
Of the same variety that was delivered to rocket of chinlge. I'm sure
Let's find ourselves a monk. We gotta find a monk. Let's go if this shoot and doji is another check over here sir
experiments
She's just using us to test its strength again probably yeah
I suspect that may be the case. We're all part of her master plan
By the way, we need nothing over here, right?
I like to see if we can't shake some information out once you're going to
So I can't go inside that way we've got to go around what a big surprise that I wasn't able to immediately walk into the giant temple
Nobody could have predicted this
Okay, let's see if I can upgrade that spear. Let's see what the upgraded abilities are on the spear even
Okay, so enhance abilities special skills spear
and
And only stones, I could fully upgrade the spear.
I'm gonna do it.
I did it.
It's done.
Okay, let's do it.
That doesn't sound good.
Okay, let's do it.
That doesn't sound good.
Who is it?
Holy shit.
Uh oh.
Alright, y'all want to see the spear?
You guys ready?
Stop bro.
I brought it.
Help me.
Oh, shit.
It just one-topped him?
I don't even know what to say.
That was insane.
Yeah, we gotta use this all the time.
does damage like that the spear and those two hammers are insane yeah what the
Fuck man!
Who is this?
Who is it?
Who is it?
Oh hey.
Anybody else?
What about you?
Anybody else?
Hey!
I'm not used to I'm not used to doing the dodging another question
So I have to stay away from those I'm not ready like I'm not mentally
program to do that dodge right now I think that's a guy right
well I thought you'd get that
got it okay where's this cocksucker he's over here all right everybody's dead
now right let me double check okay good just gonna heal again might as well stay
closer to full health. No reason not to. So I guess if I fully-
What a fap.
You got me too.
Okay. I do really like using the bow in almost every video game. I feel at least
like 90% of games whenever you have like a secondary armament it's like like bad
like with this game I think it's actually quite good it's okay let's go over
here what's wrong
what's going on here I'll help them out these are like a little mini-quest not a
a big deal. Well we got soybeans. Oh no wonder this guy got captured. Okay, um, yes this way.
Look around. What's going on? What's going on? What's wrong? What's wrong? Somebody need to get stabbed?
There was only one guy? That was it? Damn. I didn't even need to do anything.
Charge your bow shot at Sopster's Fagger Bar? Yeah, I know. I did.
Oh shit, I can't get back. Okay, how do I get around here?
Um, rescue 30 townspeople. I'm the savior.
Oh, I see it's around this one.
got it and please be a power stone and it's not let's go yeah I think power
stones have to be in the big box I'm hearing them but I don't see them
You see, I see them.
Like, you saw them.
Okay, so I went this way and I came around this...
Wait, what? Who's this?
What's he doing?
I tried, I tried though, I really did, I tried.
I heard the Carnage mode fights were just like really high HP and it wasn't like really
hard it was like an endurance thing where it's like can you do it right okay
can you do it right 30 times in a row
that's what I heard obviously like I'm not sure I'm done
okay so let's look around again you'll find out where this thing goes
Uh, it's down there.
What the hell, where the fuck is it?
The fuck?
Oh, it's gonna be down here, right?
Oh shit, y'all see what's gonna happen, right?
I'm gonna have him turn back around.
Never mind.
Why is he having a bad time or something, man?
He's gonna die.
I don't know where I'm dying.
Oh, that's where that archer was that I killed.
Let's realize that.
Carnage mode fights are a lot longer.
Yeah, I don't think that that's a good way to do New Game Plus.
I don't know if I'm gonna play New Game Plus on this game or not.
Like, the combat's really good.
but
Like there's a lot of like there's a lot of positives and negatives right and I would say
Do I have to go up there? Maybe I do
Let me just go up there and see what happens if there's like some sort of trigger
No, no, okay, let's go down
Boss died too fast
It's like logically there would be...
Uh-oh.
Is it...
I can't go under there, right?
Well, what the hell?
Well, what the hell?
Missed a door?
I missed a door?
There's no way I missed a door.
What the hell am I doing?
What the fuck is all off?
Here?
Well, that's the other way around.
Do I have to jump to there?
There's no way. Oh yes! Yaaas! Maybe it's that way.
I see.
For some reason I was like, well it can't be that easy, right?
Just kill him. Just kill him if he's in.
What are you doing? What's he doing?
Well done!
What's he doing? What an idiot.
Victorious and unscathed.
Yeah, I can open the door, right?
It wasn't that good.
Oh no, I can't yet.
Let's move around.
Uh, down, I guess?
I like how the bow is actually better than the sword like it's it's actually better
okay there we go would you say the game is too slow no I was not I can see why a person
would come to that conclusion, but I wouldn't agree with it.
Why is that?
I just don't really think that's accurate.
I think that really, let me try and see if I can go inside there,
because I want to see if I can get to that thing.
So this is, you can open with a bow.
I'm going to try it.
Bow should have a larger range.
Yeah, it would be better if the bow had a larger range.
But I think that the Minion AI or like NPC AI
probably doesn't accommodate that.
That's probably why they don't have that.
You guys said I can use this with the bow,
but nobody said how.
Sure as hell isn't that.
Maybe I'll go around.
Is there a special line to sight?
No.
Shoot the lock?
I don't think I can, right?
Yeah, there was no lock.
Am I retarded?
Like, what lock?
This is, it doesn't open from this side.
I guess there is a lock.
There's only that works, right?
Yeah, it doesn't work.
Go to the other side of the door.
Oh my God.
It was actually that simple.
I should have known that.
All of the puzzles in these games
are usually really simple.
So if you're messing them up,
you're probably overthinking it.
okay another power stone please be another power stone it's a towel I don't know
what those do I have no idea what those do
okay
What?
Who's this?
I'm gonna use some bullshit.
Let's go.
Oh no.
We gotta use this.
We gotta use this.
We're gonna use another one.
They're coming.
There it is.
What's wrong? What's wrong?
Oh!
Stop
There's another archer, I forgot about him
Gaming? I'm gaming the fuck out of him
There it is
Look at all that
Okay, round two. Let's go.
Damn, that's a lot of cock suffers, huh?
I'm just gonna kill every bone. I figured, I think it's the best way to handle it.
Just kill every bone.
Not gonna think about it. I'm just gonna do it.
I really want to be able to use my big stuff.
Now I'll use it for sure.
Okay, let's go.
Oh!
What?!
What?!
You little dick sucker.
Dude!
No job!
Just die!
I don't have to hit you!
Okay.
Another one?
Is that it?
That's it.
Okay, that was easier.
Where are you just giving me another one?
It was fun.
Hmm.
You gotta go that way now.
All right.
Let's go here.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
All right, let's go here and
That was supposed to go let's go up again. I think I'm supposed to go up. I'm not sure
This game good to play if you suck at video games like me honestly, yeah
This game is pretty easy
Like I would say that like I mean so I've played like a lot of like every every sword game
I've pretty much played okay. I can start right there and what would I say when I open the run out?
I can
I
Can say that this game is
It's easier than Sekiro so fine. We near the top yet
It's easier than Sekiro. I didn't play ghost at the shimono. That's one that I did not play
And can I upgrade anything?
How do I do this?
I cannot.
It's designed well.
Yeah, yeah, it's well designed.
Um, should this?
So I've been getting in my way.
What are all these logs here?
No matter.
If you push them away, we can get them.
What?
Oh, wrong log.
Which log am I supposed to push?
Which one?
this one of course why didn't I think of that damn that's some fast
construction they already build a bridge let's boss oh no it's a ball I'm not
afraid of the barrel wait wait I thought I was gonna have to like do
do something
nope
and...
I'm gonna move that item first
nothing over here
sure did
That's amazing
I'm nervous, bro. They're telling me how easy everything is about that fight of loss
Damn
Okay
only push yeah something's coming that has to be
so they said I can
They should prove no much
We all know we're shooting things at me.
Come up.
What's happening here?
Did you just do a flip?
Yeah, I did do a flip on them.
That's a trap.
Kill the trap.
Three cats.
Three cats.
Three cats.
Three cats.
Three cats.
Three cats.
Three cats.
Three cats.
Three cats.
Three cats.
Three cats.
Three cats.
Three cats.
three cats triple fat destruction kill that too
and i'm ready i'm not okay i'm ready for that yet look around with all these
and you know i don't know what hanazuki is i don't even know what it does
i just been getting it i'll probably figure it out if i ever play new games once
Excellent work.
Excellent.
That was a bit bigger than I intended.
Oh, but wasn't it satisfying?
I quite enjoyed it.
It was.
You did.
This is a boss, right?
It's got to be a boss.
This is an open area.
Oh, it's not?
Damn.
I thought it was going to be for sure.
It gives you health pots.
It refills your heal.
Oh, that changes everything.
I have no idea.
Oh shit.
Okay.
What are the ghosts here?
Hello?
Who is it?
Who is it?
The ghost and shit.
This game babysits the hell out of you.
Oh, it's pretty intuitive on its own anyway.
Never trust a free lunch.
They're gonna cook them?
That's probably a good thing.
We don't know if he deserved that or not.
He probably did deserve it.
It's not like those demons would kill them alive for no reason.
That's crazy.
Like that totally changes my entire outlook on the game.
I'm not going to lie like I had no idea that that's what it was so now I think just get
my health points back.
Wow.
Why was it she turned Daugherty bastard and he's such a fortified castle anyway?
I just need one more power stone.
That's what I want.
So I can get my bow level up.
I feel like that's good though, right?
It's almost too easy.
Like I mean, the game is easy but it's easy because like I've played like a million of
these games.
Like the problem is that like people think that oh well.
Okay where was this?
This is where our fake monk is hiding.
Fake monk?
Yeah, he's always up there.
Let's go.
Oh, there's blood trail.
Ooh, that's good.
Surely, this won't be...
Yeah, quiet.
Oh, shit.
I'm not just walking across.
Oh, it's going to break probably, right?
No?
No.
Oh, I see, I see.
That's what I gotta do.
I was trying to intentionally fuck around.
Was a mistake.
Gotta go over here.
I'm actually a fucking piece of shit.
Gotta go back and get it
At this point I have to
Have to a prayer bead I did all that for a prayer be
How do you mean
voice damn it's where did it come from? Oh
They're gonna kill him oh
No
I'm gonna have to let him die
No, yeah, I have no idea
Hey what you can do that what the fuck is this I just I just like using that spell
Oh, man. I do.
What are you doing? What are you doing? Hit me.
Now what?
I stole a key.
Good.
So then I should heal twice and then I get oh my god this unlock this is like
this is gonna change my life
Hopefully I get a box out of this.
Tempered iron.
Oh, I get my sword upgrade.
That's good.
And I think that- oh, oh, this is- oh, fuck.
All right, now we gotta go this way.
I'm assuming, right?
Nope.
We gotta go this way.
It's not in here. I'll tell you that.
It's not in there.
Do I come back from where the monsters are from?
Oh, it's the gate, of course.
Okay.
Is it me or did the edges get worse?
Probably get back up here.
Can I kill this?
No.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Hmmm, hmmmm, hmmmm.
Over here.
Who's this guy?
What was the exit?
I can't get through.
you're on
What's he doing?
What's he doing in my game?
I don't want to even deal with these at all. I just want to get up to the top so I'm not getting fucking poisoned, right?
That shit's annoying. I'm gonna guess I have to shoot it
who they talking to oh this one get out of here fuck out of here okay um and I can't
open that can I
secret
I've gotta go around
yeah
man
So I can just heal right now and then just loot another one of these.
And I don't even need to think about it.
Damn, that makes things way easier.
Okay, what the hell am I doing?
This one?
Alright.
I'll go down this way first.
I'm gonna go turn around.
Hit it!
That's cool.
I'm trying to get to the other one.
Okay, I don't have to do that.
I have to lower this again, probably.
Let's go get that box.
It's a very important box.
This better be my power stone.
Give me my power stone.
Oh no stone!
Fuck!
Okay, uh, let's go up to here.
And then we can change this, but I should be fine.
There's nothing else in the area, right?
Except for that random item.
This is the path.
I think this is the path at least yeah I haven't been here before
uh oh uh oh alright let's go where's he at?
I'm just thinking about the rest of the game right now.
There's someone dead.
Yeah, it's me.
No escape!
Why is he doing that?
What?
Hey!
Can't do that!
You're nothing.
What?
now what
if
the
I made a mistake.
What's wrong?
Is that fucking Mary?
Huh.
Got it.
That's the one where it naps me up in the air.
Now I'm on fire!
Alright.
He's dead.
Yes!
I'm dead.
Got him.
How's this?
What?
What?
I'm on fire now.
How's that? How's that thing?
Okay, I literally can't make this mistake, I can't lose my gun.
What?
What's wrong with him?
Am I really gonna die?
I think I'm actually going to die.
Oh my god.
I actually just died.
That's so crazy.
What's wrong with me?
I'm just a retard.
Wait, what's happening?
Okay, let me retry.
Yeah, what the fuck?
Okay.
I can't believe that happened.
I just...
Focus?
It's high pressure, and I made a mistake.
I don't perform well whenever I put myself under pressure.
And that's what I did. I put myself under pressure fighting that gun.
Unnecessarily, of course.
Just made stupid mistakes.
All right, let's do it.
Big dick, big dick!
Okay, now we're on fire.
He has something I gotta do.
What is wrong with me?
What's wrong with me?
Jesus Christ, I should have just do a retarded like him.
Not up?
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Jesus Christ.
What's wrong with me?
How do I make mistakes like that? It's crazy, isn't it?
It's embarrassing.
Carried the whirlwind.
I'll just fuel for the bullets.
There's four!
Let's get that shield.
Yeah, that's an arrow.
I'm just not walking. That's the problem.
Some days you're like that for me.
Okay.
He's dead
All right, well, I just know it like a lot of times I'll be
I'm just like mentally AFK if that makes sense
So like I'll be playing a game and I'm like not even really
Let me go
Oh
We're done here
You can't win
I'm gonna kill him this time
Yeah, I think I might be close.
I think I might be short, guys.
of
death
of
death
of
death
of
death
of
Okay, let's kill it.
Okay, now what?
All right, now what? Let's go this way.
Time for a real boss. I'm excited. Bosses that I've already done before, sometimes
I'll get I'll be like bad at them on purpose cuz I do things
and the monk bar. That's the guy.
Oh shit, that's the monk.
That guy's an asshole.
Uh-huh.
Damn.
Damn, so we just eaten him?
Holy shit.
How positive and horrible.
Not fake monk.
Fake model boss.
Okay.
And then I get my heals back.
Please be a powerstem.
I need a powerstem.
Yes! Okay.
Cance abilities. I guess I'm gonna enhance my sword too.
Might as well do that.
And oh, I can upgrade this too.
And I can't do it twice.
And now we can get the bow ability, three power stones and the full-ass bow.
And we'll do this later on and I'll get these afterwards.
I just want the cool like damage for the bow.
Okay, so my bow is like max level now.
This is going to be amazing.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
No.
Time to go.
Where's Shugan after you?
Hey.
My hand is so cold.
Uh-oh, uh-oh!
What?
Okay
He's the model
Who knows soon enough
Shit
Sasha's a savage yeah, what the
But where's the woman woman? That's what shoot and doji is after
Bring me the prettiest girl in the village. She said he's lost his insatiable
Our man
Graceful, that's what he was up to
The session do you think I could play that wrong?
They'd see through you
Don't worry. I've got it covered. You! Oh, Cooney. Lucky for you both. I got bored and tagged along. Uh-oh.
Prettiest girl in the village. Repounding for duty. Yeah, I'll know about that one.
What's that look supposed to mean? Oh, Cooney. Everything all right.
I'm... I'm so scared!
We... Overlit.
Master Samurai, I'm begging you...
Get revenge for everyone he's eaten.
Someone help me!
Sure.
We're going back to town!
Alright, let's get his ass.
Shut up!
We're gonna kill his ass!
Am I going to have to do the other shit?
That's good.
What was that, ham?
There's no more beer.
Fuck!
Oh
They just do that
Okay
I knew you were behind this
Who's this guy?
Friend of yours.
Who's this losing?
Oh no.
What does that say?
Trouble times
Is that what your citizen Tokyo told you? Oh, you can't tell you're being used
Okay, let's go
Alright, let's kill his ass
Oh, there's two pages to this bike for sure.
Yeah.
Come on, come on, come on, come on.
I'm not done!
I'm not done!
I'm done!
Drinking heels, then.
We can't have that!
Let's do it.
Got a big dick.
Wait, what'd he do?
Damn, that was fast.
The first seven heads. I'll never forget that.
Simon, for all the customers who have traveled,
for all the impressors salmon,
there will never be anything more than a power drunk cult,
a fool, and a common cringee.
I thought she called him a cult.
I don't know why I didn't get a better idea of the one.
Oh, this is tough!
Stop it.
Alright.
Already you saw my heals, I think this is...
Well, can at least get to probably the...
Assumably second phase.
Sometimes... Okay, heal a little bit.
I tried to, uh, I tried to ease him now, and I thought that if I had eased him, that
I could kill him with the last attack.
Okay, let's go.
Big dick in right here.
Nice.
Stabbed him right in the dead.
You see that?
That's damn it.
He's just taking heals.
He can't have that.
I'll try this.
You're not going to fail.
Got his ass?
Too weak.
Oh
There it is there it is
Hi
If you sell out the army to Yoshitsune, then you come again, and now you sit here playing
King of the Mountain.
Big words, but pathetic actions.
I'll kill you!
Oh, he's done. He's done.
Okay. Now what?
It's got to be a second phase.
Oh, I guess nevermind.
Well, that worked out so well.
Easiest game of my life.
If he gets up, I swear to fucking God.
This is so unnecessary.
Nobody ask for this.
Nobody ask for this.
Once I've destroyed your shits in here in Tokyo, I'm claiming my rightful place at the top of the world.
I wonder if I can shoot the head with the bow.
I'll get my body if I own a bow.
Now down to you, a floating head.
Have some shame.
Am I trying to shoot it?
Oh, no!
You are a fool, Shizuka.
Your stubborn nature brought you only ruin, or never.
No, what happens if I hit this?
When you're torn to shreds, it must have been so hard not to screw it.
Enough!
I tried to parry, it didn't do the thing.
I think this was a good one.
It's truly hilarious. You're right.
My fucking audio thing broke. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? This shit broke right now?
The strength I lack. The strength I need.
They have it.
Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Could it be?
Oh
There it is
Damn
Oh, why about the get-back?
And I'll cut your content down!
Oh, shit!
I'm only awakening this dude.
He actually awakened those guys.
Okay.
Let's see who's reeling the king!
Us!
Or...
Joke of the books!
time to stand on top of all things
the only place you can be standing is the bottom of hell
damn
We're not gonna, we're not, we're not, we're not having this happen, okay?
I'm gonna say this right now, like this is not happening, I'm not, I'm not gonna die.
I'm not gonna die.
Man attacks with only armaments, okay, perfect.
Okay, this is how I get my, my base back.
I tried, but I tried to get away.
Oh, you weak twos!
Nice!
This is actually hard.
I can do this. I can beat his ass. I can beat his ass.
I don't know why I can't go down.
I don't know why I can't go down.
I have a vision, I have a dream.
I think that's over.
I think that's it, it's over.
Yep.
Ah!
Ah!
Fuck!
Okay.
Let's see if really we kill... us!
This color will not last forever.
Forget to bury him before it's safe.
It's over.
with that fight, fight!
Alright, nothing more to this.
Approve your plans to me!
Nice! Okay, now I'm on fire!
Jesus Christ, I'm actually retarded. I'm super retarded right now.
Okay, this is kind of good.
I'm gonna hit him with this and I heal.
Double heal.
Got him, he's dead, he's dead, he's dead.
He's dead, he's dead, he's dead.
It's over, Fiend.
BITCH!
He's there!
That was brutal.
Goddamn.
The firebirds are good?
I feel like this spear is the highest damage.
It says it does health damage.
I took a step along my path today.
Yeah, true.
Also heals you? Yeah.
Thanks.
He's blushing!
What was that question?
When you use your Waking Udeason, it's an easier window for more damage.
Oh, I didn't know that.
That was kinda hard.
To me, the way of the sword is simple.
It's a game of strength.
If you win, you're the strongest.
True!
So true!
You have a twitch ads?
You're trying to put ads on my channel so no one's more money?
Hmm
That would be true with the only gauntlet all without all that matters is that you forge ahead
Lady Marisaki
I have a
Oh
Oh
Oh no!
Yeah, she's the hardest one, so we have to do what she wants.
Why?
I guess we're walking
was what they do I do all these
was I just go up there I'm not taking a break but I might just walk over there
see what happens
Who is that, huh?
Who's your mom?
What are you fucking doing?
What are you doing? Why are you doing that bullshit?
Who is this guy?
Wait, I can do that?
Damn.
Okay.
That was sick. Yeah, shit was cool.
Boss rematch yeah that the bosses are good that boss is kind of hard for me to read
I'm not only did like one attempt right so it's like of course you're not gonna
read it the first time you see it but still I beat the game I never saw that
yeah that's the first time I've seen it at all
Oh god, dude, here.
Was this guy doing? What was he doing?
Did he get stabbed?
What are you doing?
Hey! Don't you do that!
Stop, man!
I'm so sick of him.
I don't like how they die. They're stopping and going.
Need a hand?
What was that easy?
That was what I meant to do.
Who's this?
Why does he move?
Oh, they're dead here.
I've got a lot of health back on that too I thought my bow was supposed to do more
Dammit
Wait, why is it not doing
Hey, why didn't the exploding barrel work
What what what
I thought I was going to get that one up was even want me to do like I was come over here
Take a break.
What's it want me to do?
Like...
Did you just donate Stay Safe for $100?
Uh, no.
No.
I don't think so.
Not that I'm aware of.
First time I've heard of that.
This place is covered in malice. It's not just riffs because we are the malice
This is always how it goes
It's nothing I can't handle
Oh the fire. That's a long game
No, it's okay
Liberals, two stages? Oh, let me try it out again.
I see now. Okay, well, I've got to try it out then, right?
I know what I'm gonna do.
Watch, watch, watch, watch.
Jesus.
We were just out of control.
Ah, damn.
I'm gonna do it again
Okay, you don't want you want some of these?
Let's go.
Let's go.
What about that?
What's that?
What are they doing?
What's that? What are they doing?
Get out of here.
Every once in a while I get it right. Not always. Usually I don't, but sometimes I
I do. I guess I'll finish this one.
I don't think I'm even stronger lately.
I have, I have, I have been fighting every day.
I better be getting stronger.
Mm-hmm, yeah.
not a samurai warrior
this is a fucking piece of shit though
and actually this is a piece of shit
i have one thing you gotta know about this
this is a target piece of shit
you don't know how to fucking play a game
these are fucking cheese
they're fucking stupid fucking moron
what?
i would hundred help them
You never had a chance of beating me.
You got customized your T-Ball gun?
No, not your T-Ball gun.
I know my fault.
I know my fault for being a piece of shit.
Okay, well we killed that, that's good.
We did it with that thing.
I guess I gotta go back up.
Somehow, I gotta get over there.
This is the latest I've seen it up, must be a big game.
Honestly, you know what really it was?
People started guilt-tripping me earlier, they said,
Please don't, please don't stop the play-through.
We will watch it for years.
We can't.
Oh no, dude.
Come on, man.
And then I was like, all right, let's do this.
Oh, this is an elite one?
Jesus. Oh, fuck. Are you kidding me?
You're boating.
Good.
Stop that bitch out!
That should be the last.
Damn, that was cool.
Hello.
Hello?
That's it.
There were no much for you at all.
There.
Impressive bow technique.
Fat down.
What was he?
I'm gonna kill them too.
16000 oh my god I'm out of control
Control
Box down here
How in the fuck you go up here maybe
maybe I go over to here
I just don't want to be in that red shit
wait up
I'm gonna put a pop-up on him.
Put a pop-up on him.
Scarf off that, you're a true...
...touchable.
He gotta stop doing these little stabs and shit.
It's just he's the point.
I mean don't like how they try to fuck their ass.
Like they try to die.
Why would you even do that?
Just make my life harder for no reason.
Who is it?
Let's get this guy. Let's get this guy.
Wait, who's this?
What?
I'm gonna take that.
Take that!
Okay, now I'm gonna take it.
Oh, that's a good stop.
Just kidding, stop.
Now it's time for me to
take this.
Oh, I'm gonna use my ability. Oops.
Okay, I gotta go the right way.
It's okay.
Hey, come here.
I got something for you.
It's called a tree.
I got a tree. I have a tree for you.
Guess what I have over here?
Yes, guess it. You're right. That's another tree.
I'll go back and show you for your health.
What?
Do it.
Yeah.
Yeah, what a dead ass bitch.
See?
I wish I had just done that the first time.
I did it the first time.
But no.
No.
Can't do that
Can't do that for the riffs
Yeah, the fuck up nicely done. I hope lady Marosaki is unhunt
What am I fucking food? I don't want to get nothing to be scared of out here now
I was not scared my concentration was simply a stream old Clark turns the movies are getting banned
Yeah, you can.
Uh, it depends on which one though.
Like if they're out of, if they're in public domain, you can.
I know those voices.
Didn't I kill you two at Ked-NG Temple?
Wait, what?
What?
The Temple?
What? Unintelligent sounding voices.
So uncouth.
Oh, no. Oh, no.
You know,
the kind of groan.
Peek boss. Great.
I'm going to take a break today, then.
I was going to take a break before, but I was like, OK,
it's like a mini bus.
I'll do this. I might as well.
And then I'm going to I might get everything ready for tomorrow
to beat the shit.
If you were a woman, would you be a to this?
Would I be of like a would I be a disgusting whore?
I'd be a disgusting female streamer that sells her body to evil demon that suck you to a
prostitute.
If I was hot, I absolutely would.
I 100% would.
I would be a slut.
Yeah.
You should listen to the way that, you should listen to the way Kaisie talks about it and
she talks, it's actually crazy.
You know what she calls?
She just calls them dogs.
They have just says they're dogs.
Alright, I'll hang out for like 10 minutes, but I gotta take a break.
I'll be back on tomorrow.
Women option, pretty much any man.
Man's options, whoever, whoever have them.
I think honestly like I've always thought about it like this right where it's like
Women are the gatekeepers of sex and men are the gatekeepers of relationships
There's a lot of women that want to have relationships with guys that want to have sex with them
And there's a lot of guys that want to have sex with girls that don't have sex with them
But like that's I think that's kind of what happens
They hit the wall at 30 and things change, or do you think so?
Is it that simple?
35 hard wall. I think that for women, there's a lot of women that can look attractive even
like up to like, I'd say like age, like really like 50 or 60 in a lot of cases. But I think
that we're just so used to seeing these like fat disgusting pigs that crash out
and they look old whenever they're like 25 that um you know we kind of get a
fucked up frame of reference but I think there's plenty of girls that are
really pretty and until they're like quite a bit older
And it's because you're fat.
Well, it's also because girls don't take care of themselves, right?
It's the same thing happens with guys, too.
You see how women talk about that chick eating Navarad?
No, not really.
I don't know what that is.
I think the ideal women in the gay process, the men in their gay-cupid relationship is
a coat.
I think women get more favorable outcomes in both departments.
They do.
They do.
But like, I think that it's true to an extent, though, because I know a lot of girls that
like get fucked around by some guy.
than they end up like not marrying him and then they like wasted four years of their life.
Which is the lady and the character obsession. Yeah, I don't know a lot about that. I didn't
see that movie.
You see a Tweet Kaisy midi? Yeah, where I'm like a golden receiver or something like
that.
I saw that. Talking shit.
I'm going to play Dawnwalker after Phoenix Ching on Emusha, maybe, yeah.
Have you seen Gaming again?
Yeah.
By the way, I was wrong.
Jacksepticeye didn't defend PewDiePie at all.
Dude completely threw him under the bus.
Super short clip.
Let me see this.
I'm glad he's getting shit on for this, bro. I am. I'm so glad that people are shitting
on this dude like what a loser bro like you're gonna go around and like
virtue signal constantly and then make jokes about Charlie Kirk the reason why
I think is probably because you you agree with shooting people that you don't
like that's the only reason why yes what a loser bro what a absolute a lot of
these people like on YouTube like and just creators a lot of these guys are
such losers really why you even talk like that because I would have no
problem like the thing is like you want to talk like this it's totally
fine but at the same time like you better be okay for other edgy jokes too but
what he wants to do is he wants to have his cake and eat it too and I'm glad
people are shitting on him hopefully they do a more
you see the Dostalins of cleanser juror no I didn't see that
If we really create a precedent, yeah, of course, charity, food banks, schools, carc everything.
What is this?
I don't know what this ever had to do with it, like, you still shouldn't support, like,
if you donate money to a charity, like, I've donated money to charities, too, like,
lots of people donate money to charities.
always try to do this. And I think that honestly, like, once
somebody has, like, this is the good thing about it is that
once there's like a negative perception of a person, it just
gets worse. It just gets worse and worse and worse. And, you
know, I think it's deserved. Especially like all this
virtue signaling that people like to like to do. Moral
grandstanding is generally bad. I think moral grandstanding is fine, but you
better stand up and stay up and don't just get down when it's convenient for
you. Jesus Christ, what a loser.
If you donate, you have an immunity pass for every bad thing you do. Yeah,
for sure. Absolutely.
Bring back the gender payout I agree
Yeah, we saw this I was about to say
There's so much going on all the time, it's exhausting, yeah, I know.
Anyway, yeah, let me go and find it out and get to it.
What's this here?
Something like that.
What you might have worried about at the end of this stream?
What happened to you?
What do I say that got your feelings hurt?
What do I say I got I got like five minutes before I got to go get my food
Trainpoint USA donated more than a hundred million dollars to charity these people are completely cool
It's they don't care like they don't care. They just make up whatever they want, bro
Like that's the thing is that people like this like they will say that. Oh, well, they only did that to get good PR
Big surprise bro. Like that's what everybody donates to charity for almost, right? I mean like you got
But, yeah, at some point, doing like $100 million a charity and you're going around
acting like some random YouTuber is like, fucking Jesus.
What is this?
I went too far, you're right.
You were moderate before?
What about, what did I say that was too far to the right?
If you don't have a specific you're gonna get permit
You got to be you got to have a specific you can't be like well, I just feel like in general
Like you're not gonna vague post bro like is that it is the end of the stream
Those are depending through speech of his too far off the right. Well, I don't know what he's saying. Oh, I'll give him a
You know play Valhom again, probably not. No, you sound exhausted. Yeah, I'm pretty tired. Honestly. I am
I mean we stream today for like almost 10 hours. It's been a long time
Don't tell me there's nothing
The only ever vague post like yeah, I guess it's not in fact, I'd be so embarrassed like you're really not gonna say anything
Really?
Oh my God.
Last year, since last year and all, I can't be specific.
I'm a Muslim, Lebanese, don't listen to that guy.
I want you to go find somebody else, huh?
Is never, they never have an example bro, what a surprise.
I would have never guessed.
That's crazy.
What are the odds of that?
That's amazing.
You're going to make these abstractions.
Anyway, um, yeah, you go, you go, yeah, you know, like, make any account, I don't
want to do that.
Like, I don't know what would you, why would you, what would you do, what would you do that for?
Anyway, I'm gonna go.
Alright guys, thank you all very much for watching, I appreciate it.
And I will see you all tomorrow.
Alright boys, peace! See ya!
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